Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions

[Simes]

......... for 1 week post everything you are watching or plan to bid on, that simple. One week! every item in the watch list..

Well, this list is as per my Wants List, which has been available for all those wishing to not help me but to either throw in a few troublesome bids or indeed, bid for it with a view to selling it to me for a 10% hike...  But I don't believe that would happen.

If you want to close the Mid-auction thread, you may as well kill the Wants forum as well

[wonka]

If you want to close the Mid-auction thread, you may as well kill the Wants forum as well

Not really.

Hoping for something is very different than discovering something you can actually acquire, and for a bargain (hopefully).

[Simes]

Possibly.

But I believe it is all much of a muchness, and not in keeping with the spirit of the freedom of information internet exercise...

[erik1925]

Possibly.

But I believe it is all much of a muchness, and not in keeping with the spirit of the freedom of information internet exercise...

What does that mean? 

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Rich can you post those as links so it easier to just click to bid on them  

you can always do a little work on your own
 

[Filmlobbycards]

It's not a head scratcher to me...the mid-auction analysis is an important umbrella page (and very popular)...if you actually do some research instead of creating false pictures (and saying there is evidence to support that outed auctions went for higher prices when you can never prove it) is a testament to the selfishness of collectors....the popularity of the thread accounts for the 231 pages...

in retrospect I admire the mid auction thread for the analysis of wild pricing by sellers, the authentication of items for sale, the lamenting of rarity over condition, the amount of educated guesses and the overall interest in movie posters....the fear of having an outed auction trumps all that?....I call bullshit...I agree with Rich...this is nothing but a preemptive strike to lock this thread...

Any rational person can see there is no real evidence that an outed auction here commanded a price beyond what "would" have happened...

Show me your proof!!!

[MoviePosterBid.com]

It's not a head scratcher to me...the mid-auction analysis is an important umbrella page (and very popular)...if you actually do some research instead of creating false pictures (and saying there is evidence to support that outed auctions went for higher prices when you can never prove it) is a testament to the selfishness of collectors....the popularity of the thread accounts for the 231 pages...

in retrospect I admire the mid auction thread for the analysis of wild pricing by sellers, the authentication of items for sale, the lamenting of rarity over condition, the amount of educated guesses and the overall interest in movie posters....the fear of having an outed auction trumps all that?....I call bullshit...I agree with Rich...this is nothing but a preemptive strike to lock this thread...

Any rational person can see there is no real evidence that an outed auction here commanded a price beyond what "would" have happened...

Show me your proof!!!

yep.
100%
 

[CSM]

if you actually do some research instead of creating false pictures (and saying there is evidence to support that outed auctions went for higher prices when you can never prove it) is a testament to the selfishness of collectors....

How unselfish is posting links to auctions just because you need attention?

[Charlie]

It's not a head scratcher to me...the mid-auction analysis is an important umbrella page (and very popular)...if you actually do some research instead of creating false pictures (and saying there is evidence to support that outed auctions went for higher prices when you can never prove it) is a testament to the selfishness of collectors....the popularity of the thread accounts for the 231 pages...

in retrospect I admire the mid auction thread for the analysis of wild pricing by sellers, the authentication of items for sale, the lamenting of rarity over condition, the amount of educated guesses and the overall interest in movie posters....the fear of having an outed auction trumps all that?....I call bullshit...I agree with Rich...this is nothing but a preemptive strike to lock this thread...

Any rational person can see there is no real evidence that an outed auction here commanded a price beyond what "would" have happened...

Show me your proof!!!

OK I will come clean on a great example where this might have applied.  My good poster buddy PM's me about an ebay auction of a poster I was looking for that had a bad title etc. and was started way under price.  I was so worried that someone would find out about it I was a nervous wreck.  I ended up being the only bidder and got it for a mere $325... 

What was the poster?  An Orange Mad Max Australian OS.  Now tell me, with full confidence if that auction had been outed, that I would have been the only bidder.  It would have pissed me off for a good year to have missed out on that poster. 

The guy who told me about it didn't have to.  But he knew I had been looking for it.  He was honorable about it.  That is what this hobby should promote. 

[MoviePosterBid.com]

FORUM by it's very design is for sharing information with a COMMUNITY
Not for secrecy. That's a CLUB

Charlie, you of all people should understand that. You got pissed off because they wanted to censor your speech and went away.
Now the shoe is on the other foot?

This forum should serve the "we" not the "me"

[wonka]

lololol

[Filmlobbycards]

How unselfish is posting links to auctions just because you need attention?

How selfish is it to lock a thread based on unsubstantiated fear of competition?

[eatbrie]

Wow Charlie, I've got to say, I'm a little confused.  Not only is your comment right on the money and I for one applaud it, but it goes very much against your good buddy Mel who left the forum because he couldn't take the heat.  What gives?

T

[eatbrie]

This forum should serve the "we" not the "me"

Spoken like a true dealer, Rich.

T

[MoviePosterBid.com]

lololol

I don't expect you to agree Ben, not with your skewed perspectives

[Charlie]

Charlie, you of all people should understand that. You got pissed off because they wanted to censor your speech and went away.

I got my hat handed too me.  I didn't just go away.  And it didn't really have anything to do with my speech being censored.  I still don't think people really "get" what happened.  

[wonka]

I don't expect you to agree Ben, not with your skewed perspectives

You mean the same ones held by many others here?
Or does disagreeing with you just = skewed?
At least you are consistent, Rich, I will give you that.

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Seems like a great time to put this back out there:

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Spoken like a true dealer, Rich.

T

in what way T?
I don't think my auctions very often get spoken about in Mid-auction and I don't think I've seen anything posted there that I would bid on
Lots of great information does get shared that leads to LEARNING about a variety of subjects.
Do you want people to come by and listen and learn and maybe join & become part of something, or do you just want a place to hang out with your close friends?

It's a forum, not a club.
censorship is a fool's errand and I would say that on the eBay boards when anyone here posts a gripe and it is removed, you would scream to high heaven. Why would you support censorship in other forms then?

No one would ever tell you I am a selfish person. I am an altruist who believes in society. This forum isn't about me, it's about us and whomever wants to join us in our journey.

[wonka]

How selfish is it to lock a thread based on unsubstantiated fear of competition?

You might want to read around here a bit more. Examples are plenty.

[Charlie]

Wow Charlie, I've got to say, I'm a little confused.  Not only is your comment right on the money and I for one applaud it, but it goes very much against your good buddy Mel who left the forum because he couldn't take the heat.  What gives?

T

I'm not worried about Mel. Why is everyone else?

[wonka]

Another classic from the APF Histories:

Like I said before, it's silly to pretend the stuff on the dedicated movie poster auctions - like yours - is not being watched closely by numerous potential buyers, so I personally don't have any problem if anybody discusses them.  (Not that my opinion matters anyway.)

However, most of the forum members are strictly buyers and want to find bargains, so I'm personally never going to discuss low-profile Ebay auctions and would hope that no one else would either.  Just send out an email to those whom you know have interest.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

You might want to read around here a bit more. Examples are plenty.

maybe you need to look at yourself. That would be my suggestion.

[wonka]

maybe you need to look at yourself. That would be my suggestion.

awwww.. does Little Benny have a hurty boo-boo...

Neither of these rebuttals really match your whole 'We Try Harder' mantra...

[Simes]

What does that mean? 

Sorry. 

What I was attempting to say was that this whole thread about closing the Mid Auction thread is a storm in a tea cup.  There is absolutely nothing to prove that outing an item on these particular boards will have any material effect on the outcome, bearing in mind these boards' members and the lengths they will go to to find something.  It is just a sense of fear.

As for the spirit of the exercise, it is the internet, which some say is successful because of the freedom of movement of knowledge.  And banning and censoring stuff goes against that grain - in my opinion.

[Simes]

It's not a head scratcher to me...the mid-auction analysis is an important umbrella page (and very popular)...if you actually do some research instead of creating false pictures (and saying there is evidence to support that outed auctions went for higher prices when you can never prove it) is a testament to the selfishness of collectors....the popularity of the thread accounts for the 231 pages...

in retrospect I admire the mid auction thread for the analysis of wild pricing by sellers, the authentication of items for sale, the lamenting of rarity over condition, the amount of educated guesses and the overall interest in movie posters....the fear of having an outed auction trumps all that?....I call bullshit...I agree with Rich...this is nothing but a preemptive strike to lock this thread...

Any rational person can see there is no real evidence that an outed auction here commanded a price beyond what "would" have happened...

Show me your proof!!!

I concur entirely.