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« Reply #5025 on: November 15, 2013, 01:25:53 AM »
Both Bruce & Rich are upfront with their fees (I have never actually found written down what HA's are) so which is better value only comes down net return, all the rest is just salesmanship.

I have sent stuff to Bruce and nothing to Rich so I am not going to compare (who is better); but it's not rocket science to work out what one gets for each poster sold. I worked up a spreadsheet with a simple formula that tells me how much I have earned based on the hammer price of the poster I consigned. I also used this same formula to decide which poster I will send (based on possible sell hammer price), after all there is no point sending a low value poster (specially from this country). So provided Bruce's commissions haven't changed recently, if you're interested:

Open up Excel

In cell A1 put the name of the poster: eg Hannah and Her Sisters
In cell B1 put the number of posters of that title you are selling (and shame on you)
In cell C1 put the price you hope to achieve for that poster
In cell D1 copy n paste this formula: =IF(B1<7.99,B1*0.75, IF(B1<11.99,B1*0.66,IF(B1<19.99,B1*0.6,IF(B1<29.99,B1*0.5,IF(B1<39.99,B1*0.4,IF(B1<69.99,B1*0.35,IF(B1<99.99,B1*0.3,IF(B1<299,B1*0.28,B1*0.26))))))))*A1

*note ensure you copy the above formula as one line. The formula is only for posters under $299, I got bored typing the formula so stopped

In cell E1 copy n paste: =B1-C1

The result will show much Bruce takes and how much you get.

With Rich it's easier to calculate, he takes 25% no matter what.

To be honest it's not as simple as who sells the poster based on the commssions, the smart people will work a high and low price end scenario and then make a judgement call. But as we all know about auctions, there is no guarantee of the hammer price!

Have fun.
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« Reply #5026 on: November 15, 2013, 01:32:52 AM »
excuse me.. I posted 2 posts here in Mid-Auction that seem to have been removed. I certainly do not understand why. Going back through this thread I see another dealer who has continually posted his own mid-auction stuff, so why were my 2 posts deleted?

hmmmmm

doesn't seem to be fair

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« Reply #5027 on: November 15, 2013, 03:05:05 AM »
excuse me.. I posted 2 posts here in Mid-Auction that seem to have been removed. I certainly do not understand why. Going back through this thread I see another dealer who has continually posted his own mid-auction stuff, so why were my 2 posts deleted?

hmmmmm

doesn't seem to be fair



Hmmm, were the posts interesting?

My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared


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« Reply #5028 on: November 15, 2013, 03:46:23 AM »

Hmmm, were the posts interesting? My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared


Your posts in his threads are like the Chupacabras, mysterious and never quite what they seem - are you sure you posted them?

I think I remember the one of that he does speak (pardon my grammar) was it about the bike/moon ET poster mid-auction report about it being at a fractions of the usual price? If it has been deleted he has a point, why would a post by him about his auction be deleted (censored) and not others who have done/do the same.
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« Reply #5029 on: November 15, 2013, 04:34:07 AM »
I think I remember the one of that he does speak (pardon my grammar) was it about the bike/moon ET poster mid-auction report about it being at a fractions of the usual price? If it has been deleted he has a point, why would a post by him about his auction be deleted (censored) and not others who have done/do the same.

correct David.. and also the Harry Potter poster. poof.. gone like magic

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« Reply #5030 on: November 15, 2013, 04:37:38 AM »

Hmmm, were the posts interesting?

My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared

well I think you were actually going over the line there Steve.
by the way. I went to your namethisasshole page and I have a question
I can understand the ire and I can understand your page, but I can't understand linking to his listings on your page because all you do is help him get more search engine value & your promoting his auctions
also, when you post in his threads here, you're keeping him to the top of the subforum.. seems counter to your counterproductive interests

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« Reply #5031 on: November 15, 2013, 05:49:08 AM »
well I think you were actually going over the line there Steve.
by the way. I went to your namethisasshole page and I have a question
I can understand the ire and I can understand your page, but I can't understand linking to his listings on your page because all you do is help him get more search engine value & your promoting his auctions
also, when you post in his threads here, you're keeping him to the top of the subforum.. seems counter to your counterproductive interests


Posterazzi created a thread specifically to mock me, which I have provided a reply he so richly deserves. I would say he crossed the line with his vile language and intent to humiliate. I eagerly anticipate his next similar effort as I have soooo much more primed and ready.

If you can understand the ire and the page, what line did I cross in that thread, in your opinion?

I don't really care if more people go to his site from my links as my links hardly add to the 1.75 million links in Google when searching on posterazzi. If he looks at his web logs he may see some people came from the nameandshameyou site, which may make him think. But I am sure he doesn't care, else he wouldn't create have created that vile post, with his business name posterazzi attached. I am sure he doesn't give a toot!

I am only sharing my actual truthful experience of him on the web with others and mentioning where I have found better service. I am a believer of if your service and or communications to clients or potential clients is poor, then your comeuppance is that the resulting reviews of you are out there to live with. The seller had his fun and got the benefits, now wallow in it.



 

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« Reply #5032 on: November 15, 2013, 07:32:45 AM »
This is great. Really hope this happens, would love to see the results.

And thanks to David for being open to it for the betterment of the group.

No problem, I dont mind sharing .. and either way (if I post or Bruce does) I'll post the results of my auctions. I may do some research here in a bit and see about starting a thread following my consignment journey.

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« Reply #5033 on: November 15, 2013, 07:58:19 AM »
No problem, I dont mind sharing .. and either way (if I post or Bruce does) I'll post the results of my auctions. I may do some research here in a bit and see about starting a thread following my consignment journey.

YOU should do it, so the forum police don't arrest me!

I can provide you with the data, or you can assemble it yourself. Just be accurate.

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« Reply #5034 on: November 15, 2013, 08:08:17 AM »
Ill probably lose more than 35% to fees .. BUT .. some may go higher than I expect too .. ANNNDDD .. the main thing for me is, by sending the posters to Bruce I don't have to worry about shipping 40 poster tubes out either. If I had to do that Id have to buy poster tubes as well. I think of the 12 posters he has sold for me so far my "average" commission is 50%. You go big on some I lose out on some others. That's why Im running an average, I sent Bruce ~300 posters so I will take a look at the numbers once most/all of them are sold and see if it was a huge mistake or what little I lost was worth the hassle of not having to worry about shipping 200+ tubes all over the world.

I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie

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« Reply #5035 on: November 15, 2013, 08:10:59 AM »
haha .. sounds fun.. Maybe for the sake of comparison I can add a column to my spreadsheet "What Charlie would have paid" and you can go down the list and gauge the prices :)

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« Reply #5036 on: November 15, 2013, 08:15:58 AM »
I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie

"was"? Why not bid anyway?

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« Reply #5037 on: November 15, 2013, 09:03:16 AM »
I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie

Now this is getting interesting!  Charlie, before the auctions end you should send Fallen your secret max bids -- then we can compare.  I'm a researcher by trade so love seeing the stats! 

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« Reply #5038 on: November 15, 2013, 09:28:32 AM »
That is true with 99% of my consignors!

My largest consignor ever told me at our first meeting that he would not sell anything for ten years, and that after that he would spend years traveling the country in a mobile home, peddling his posters. I took one look at his wife's face as he said that, and I KNEW it was not going to work that way!

Instead, I sold everything for them, and they retired and he plays a round of golf every day!

Hilarious.

Excellent story.

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« Reply #5039 on: November 15, 2013, 09:30:03 AM »
Well, good for him, although I really hope that I have something better than my posters to retire on.  Life is expensive in LA, so if this the case, I better stack up on beans and noodles now.

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Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)
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« Reply #5040 on: November 15, 2013, 10:35:40 AM »
Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)

It seems that L.A. people go to places like Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver. Then the people in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver who sold THEIR overpriced homes to the L.A. crowd move to the Midwest. Tiny West Plains MO has a bunch of transplanted Mountain Westerners, who are astounded they can buy a decent home for $150,000 or a mansion for $400,000 in this area.

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« Reply #5041 on: November 15, 2013, 10:44:02 AM »
Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)

Ah Ah Ah...  Funny!  Colorado, I would probably think about it for a minute.  I like Boulder a lot.  But Phoenix and Las Vegas...  over my dead body.  That would never happen.  My wife is from Scottsdale and I absolutely hate it.  Same with Vegas.  No, I love Southern Cal too much.  And I already moved from Paris.  So I'm done.  My wife had an opportunity to move to London last year for a very lucrative job and I said no.  I'm here on liberal land and I ain't moving.

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« Reply #5042 on: November 15, 2013, 11:40:24 AM »
"was"? Why not bid anyway?

Well, I moved past the planning stage after a quick preview and adding them to my watch list.  I am on to the implementation phase which includes bidding only 5 minutes prior to the end of the auctions...  ;)

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« Reply #5043 on: November 15, 2013, 11:42:11 AM »
Now this is getting interesting!  Charlie, before the auctions end you should send Fallen your secret max bids -- then we can compare.  I'm a researcher by trade so love seeing the stats! 

I've sent my prices on the ones I will actually bid on...  It wouldn't be accurate to speculate what I may or may not pay for stuff I may or may not really want...  But we shall see.  I've already raised one max bid price due to a beaming oversight.

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« Reply #5044 on: November 15, 2013, 12:38:58 PM »
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists. 
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« Reply #5045 on: November 15, 2013, 01:03:24 PM »
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists. 

It's got a bit more happening than a Big Ben photo opportunity Paul!

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« Reply #5046 on: November 15, 2013, 01:30:06 PM »
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists.  

It's very much like Paris from what I hear, Paul.  I spent a lot of time in London growing up, but it appears the city has changed quite a lot.  I was in Paris in September, and god this city is going down fast.  Not for tourists.  For tourists, it will always be one, if not the most beautiful large city in the world.  But for anyone who's actually lived there, it's a shithole.  The people are miserable, immigration is rampant and creates so much hatred and conflict, people have no money, the Socialist government of Holland is an absolute joke, etc., etc.  No, I'm done with Europe for sure.  As much as America has changed over the last 40 years, it is still, I believe, the greatest country in the world.  Except for Arizona, of course.

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« Reply #5047 on: November 15, 2013, 01:34:59 PM »
I had this dream of maybe retiring in Provence one day, buying a large house overlooking a winery, drinking rose, eating tomato mazzarella and listening to the crickets at sunset, and then someone recently told me: "Provence, are you crazy, it's full of gangs and crime."  So Provence no more :(

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« Reply #5048 on: November 15, 2013, 01:53:33 PM »
It has Mark, but living there every day…  the congestion, the charges, 90% of the people are ignorant, no one has the time of day for you. The place seems so over crowded, there's litter all over, it's grubby, it is like visiting a different country from "up North". It took me an Hour and a half to travel 20 miles across London, I had to Park Twice, £4 an Hour was the first stop, and £10.10 for 4 hours the second, plus £7.50 for a day Rover ticket…?  I'd be skint in a few months. The cost of even a Cup of Coffee is ridiculous..

It has great night life, and there's lots to do and see, but I love the peace of where I live. People are pleasant, I can go for a drive and enjoy it, and can stop for a meal that won't need a Bank-loan... ;)

I think T's description of Paris is very close to London now-a-days.  
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« Reply #5049 on: November 15, 2013, 02:22:22 PM »
That's not "mine" London .

It is a great city. Free entrance to the best museums, best cinema and theater at the Southbank, free concerts at St Martin in the Fields. Best operas at Covent Garden, and ballet...and nope. You don't need a fortune to live here.

And of course, the best tennis @ Wimbledon.

Love London.  I lived in Madrid, Barcelona, Rome and Brussels. Short term in NYC.

But London wins.    :-*