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Title: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on June 03, 2010, 09:58:18 PM
So how about a thread to discuss unusual, unexpected, and/or outrageous auction results BEFORE they are over?

IMHO no one should discuss an auction AFTER it's over - it's too late to spoil the auction and keep people from getting good auction deals!

So who has a great item currently going cheap someone wants to "out"?

<OO

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on June 03, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
This looks like a pretty good deal.  He has enough of them for most of us as well.  Plenty of time left also so we can take our time to decide.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Outlaw-Josey-Wales-1976-14x36-Insert-MOVIE-POSTER-/150447515282?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23075ee692 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Outlaw-Josey-Wales-1976-14x36-Insert-MOVIE-POSTER-/150447515282?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23075ee692)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 03, 2010, 10:13:05 PM
The seller even assures us we "will enjoy years of pleasure from this high quality print" 

I wonder what this print actually does?!

Must come with a mouth and hands...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on June 03, 2010, 10:13:39 PM
I think we should already rename this thread to BRUCE AND DAVE BACK PATTING AND FREE ADVERTISING.

Like you both, but honestly I have never "seen" two people better at talking about themselves; cant argue with the results though!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on June 03, 2010, 10:17:54 PM
Let me try...

I heard this guy sells dirt cheap newer releases and has hundred of titles not posted. Just send them a mail and inquire about his inventory.

http://shop.ebay.com/ddilts399/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1 (http://shop.ebay.com/ddilts399/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_sop=12&_rdc=1)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on June 03, 2010, 10:23:21 PM
Dale, you suck at this......thats a bad link.
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Post by: guest8 on June 03, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
LOL .. yeah Dale and I was even going to look through your listings .. I havent been in a buying mode for a few months so you nearly caught me in a moment of weakness! ;)
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 03, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
that one work ! Works great for me... must be logged in to my account or somethin..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on June 03, 2010, 10:44:36 PM
yeah, it looks to be a link to your seller account.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on June 03, 2010, 10:49:16 PM
Come on, Bruce...why...
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Post by: brude on June 03, 2010, 11:45:45 PM
Dale's link worked for me...maybe you crack addicts oughtta put down the bong before you blows your brains out...  (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/redneckfireworks1zo4.gif)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on June 04, 2010, 12:26:10 AM
"Come on, Bruce...why..."

It was a joke, son. I guess a poor one. Does it make any sense I would attempt to promote my auctions this way?

Please delete the entire thread.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 12:30:40 AM
Sarcasm on the internet is like winking on the phone; it almost never works.

I find use of the winky helps. There are two options:  ;) and the more elobarate  wynk  they can make all the difference.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on June 04, 2010, 01:07:08 AM
I've pinned it!  Holy shit, people, get a sense of humor!

If people want to talk about auctions after they're done, that's fine.  If they want to talk about them before they're done, that's fine too.  What's really funny is that I get accused of censorship, but the effort to shut down discussion of current auctions is NOTHING BUT DISGUISED CENSORSHIP!

So, we have a POST auction thread and  MID auction thread.  That should settle the debate.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 01:11:28 AM
Is this about the email earlier? Are you on ecstasy at the moment? Or are you seriously saying you think a courtesy shown others has anything remotely to do with "censorship"?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 01:17:05 AM
I think either your motives are just to have me on with Rich, Holiday or your actually thicker than Andy after all.

What's Thierry's view. Lets get some actual IQ involved in the discussion.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 01:59:51 AM
Carson, you should really be ashamed of yourself.. Anyone who doesn't agree with YOUR point of view doesn't get it??
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 02:06:56 AM
As I've said many times, it's not me, Rich. The same has been expressed by Ben, Chad, Schan, Chris, Brude, myself, Neo, Dale, Jeannie (in a seperate thread) and others all explaining they'd prefer to wait a couple of days to post an auction. The question is why not wait a couple days to discuss? Why is it so pressing?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 02:10:36 AM
again Carson.. you don't get it and you haven't come up with any valid reasoning other than "other people agree with me". If we were jurors, your inability to get me to change my mind with well reasoned arguments in a debate would have us deadlocked for days on end.

How's this for a question: what makes you fear a fair fight with another bidder so much that would rather have a non-level playing field to achieve your personal goals?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 02:24:08 AM
by the way.. has anyone here seen teh Lost in Translation poster listed on lick anus.. I mean on fleaBay yet??  no one seems to have mentioned it..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 02:36:49 AM
The point is it's a majority and listening to what that majority of the forum would like. And they've made it expressly clear most would rather wait a couple of days.

I don't have a fear other bidders, Rich. As has been said countless times, the issue is simply, one after another, collectors have expressed they'd rather wait a coupe days and not have to pay an extra dollar because Mel is bored and wants to discuss a poster for three minutes.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 02:48:46 AM
majority of the forum??  5-6 members is a majority? since when did we only have 10 total members on the forum?? You just mean 5-6 of the members whose names we see don't you?
I think we've seen way more than 10 different members posting, so I don't know how you achieve a comment like "majority of the forum" from just a few members

Do you count l u r k e r s who are members but never post or only post ocassionally?

how do you count non-members who lurk? are they just half a member like blacks were only half a person in the 1800s??

are you just counting the number of people who posted maybe within a stretch of 4 pages in a single thread? Okay.. that's a majority and no one else matters....

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
We'll take the survey/poll tomorrow.
My arguing with a single guy in his mid 50s from his comic book office has been one of my least points to date so I'll wrap it up. I believe the survey tomorrow will speak for itself.
Rich, you're a blow hard by design. You can't help it. We'll talk a bit later. Night for now.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 03:06:10 AM
Still best post so far:

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/556/picture11l.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 04, 2010, 03:12:40 AM
I guess we all have our own pet peeves, I for one HATE movie spoilers, I wont read reviews until after Ive seen a movie, I don’t read the backs of books (and I read a lot). I do understand why people don’t like others outing an auction, its obvious, they want less bidders, I do not understand why it shouldn’t be allowed, or done.
The would be bidder, who is upset, is upset because they might pay more money.
There is also a seller/owner/consigner – who might make more money,
So the only reason is I WANTED THAT ITEM FOR LESS THAN IF OTHER PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT.
Big deal
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 04:13:07 AM
Quote from: Carson on June 04, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
We'll take the survey/poll tomorrow.
My arguing with a single guy in his mid 50s from his comic book office has been one of my least points to date so I'll wrap it up. I believe the survey tomorrow will speak for itself.
Rich, you're a blow hard by design. You can't help it. We'll talk a bit later. Night for now.

that's exactly what I'm talking about.. all you see is your narrow perspective and you are unable to debate anything on the merits.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 04:19:20 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 04, 2010, 03:12:40 AM
I guess we all have our own pet peeves, I for one HATE movie spoilers, I wont read reviews until after Ive seen a movie, I don’t read the backs of books (and I read a lot). I do understand why people don’t like others outing an auction, its obvious, they want less bidders, I do not understand why it shouldn’t be allowed, or done.
The would be bidder, who is upset, is upset because they might pay more money.
There is also a seller/owner/consigner – who might make more money,
So the only reason is I WANTED THAT ITEM FOR LESS THAN IF OTHER PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT.
Big deal


so far Ari, you are essentially correct with the added proviso that "maybe the real other bidder is somewhere else so I am free to bid without fear of snipe"

You know last week in Columbus, I went upstairs to bid on a lot. I was waiting for it to come up & when it did, Morris told the auctioneer to hold on while they contacted a phone bidder. I patiently stood by while they called 1-2-3-4-5 phone numbers trying to reach him. They wound up not getting him, continued the auction and I won for minimum bid. However, I would have bid against him happily and whatever the outcome would have been it what it would have been. If I lost.. I wouldn't have cared one way or the other.. If I won and paid more.. that wouldn't bother me either.

By the way.. did any of you Star Wars fans see the 2 Star Wars Birthday posters currently listed on fleaBay?? Dave Lieberman has one listed and another seller does also, although his starting bid is pretty much retail, but Dave's started at 99 cents

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 04:22:16 AM
Quote from: Carson on June 04, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
We'll take the survey/poll tomorrow.

and yes, take your poll.. I have a feelin where Holiday is going to tell you it belongs.
By the way Carson, do you identify with Napoleon??
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on June 04, 2010, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 04, 2010, 12:26:10 AM
"Come on, Bruce...why..."

It was a joke, son. I guess a poor one. Does it make any sense I would attempt to promote my auctions this way?

Please delete the entire thread.

Bruce

I do appreciate the clarification there, Pa.  ;)

I agree, this thread should be deleted as this is a new low for the forum.  Seriously.

'Censorship' being waved around when its more about courtesy is so lame and immature.  Way to fight the good fight there, fellas...stand up for your rights!  LOL   eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on June 04, 2010, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 02:48:46 AM
how do you count non-members who lurk? are they just half a member like blacks were only half a person in the 1800s??

The most irrational, ignorant, and thoughtless sentence I have read on any forum over the past 10 years or so.

I don't think it can get more insulting or discourteous than comparing African Americans in the 19 century to people today checking out a forum.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 04, 2010, 10:09:31 AM


maybe he should have said "like gary coleman was only half a person"........oh no wait.......he was black........nevermind.. ;) :P


since this thread will probably be deleted........check out our latest auctions!!

http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1 (http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 04, 2010, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on June 04, 2010, 10:09:31 AM

maybe he should have said "like gary coleman was only half a person"........oh no wait.......he was black........nevermind.. ;) :P


since this thread will probably be deleted........check out our latest auctions!!

http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1 (http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1)

Funniest post I've read yet...
Thank you, Dave!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: wonka on June 04, 2010, 10:01:44 AM
The most irrational, ignorant, and thoughtless sentence I have read on any forum over the past 10 years or so.

I don't think it can get more insulting or discourteous than comparing African Americans in the 19 century to people today checking out a forum.

Ben.. first of all, there was nothing ignorant about my statement. It was ignorant that Carson only thinks what a few members who don't want an open chat on a certain subject & everyone else is a blowhard, or wrong, or doesn't get it. My statement is a metaphor for the obvious fact that Carson think his interests are more important than someone else's. I'm presuming you do know what a metaphor is, don't you?? Furthermore, if you really tried to understand my statement - it clearly indicates that that anyone who thinks their opinion is worth more than someone else's is wrong. Ergo - no one should be counted as half a man.

In so far as outing an auction should be deferred to a "certain courtesy".. in whose mind?? Carson is a hypocrite on the issue as he's willing to out Lost in Translation or whatever Alamo posters his friend sells, but when the possibility that something HE may be interested is potentially going to be outted - it suddenly becomes a contentious issue.

Philosophy should be consistent, but Carson's is not and sadly, he doesn't seem to understand the dichotomy of his current position and his former position.

Concerning the "rights issue". Maybe you don't know that Holiday and Thierry created this forum because they felt they were being censored elsewhere, and they wanted to create a group where the admin - or any one else - would not censor anyone's speech. Thankfully Holiday has shown his beliefs to be solid in that arena and said that there will be no such rules in place as it would be a form of censorship. It's possible that because you're a younger fellow that you really don't understand the value of freedom. You will later in life after your own philosophy solidifies. If it doesn't... you'll become a Republican and move to Arizona..
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Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 04:09:02 PM
Dick H., please remind us, should any of us ever wake one day in our late 50s, single, posting on the internet across four different poster forums and six comic book forums from a fart soaked chair in Las Vegas to reevaluate. Thanks.
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Post by: Neo on June 04, 2010, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Carson on June 04, 2010, 04:09:02 PM
Dick H., please remind us, should any of us ever wake one day in our late 50s, single, posting on the internet across four different poster forums and six comic book forums from a fart soaked chair in Las Vegas to reevaluate. Thanks.

In Rich's defense, I must say "to each his own", and if that is what makes him happy, then who are you or anyone else for that matter to say that is right/wrong or good/bad?

Personally, I would much rather be where I am today, living by myself in a 700 square foot condo with a 2002 Camaro SS, posting on 2 poster forums, than where I was 3 years ago, living in a 2500 square foot townhouse with a 2 car garage that housed my old cars, a 1971 Chevelle SS 454 and a 2007 Corvette, and having to answer to a woman whom I did not get along with (to say the least) 24/7.

I am not taking sides, so I hope no one starts throwing insults at me, like a primate flinging turds, because I am not a fan of "1 guy 1 cup."  

Lastly, as Rodney King said, "Can we all get along?"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Carson on June 04, 2010, 05:30:39 PM
It's just some fun with Rich, Neo.
Nothing to philosophical.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on June 04, 2010, 05:27:52 PM
In Rich's defense, I must say "to each his own", and if that is what makes him happy, then who are you or anyone else for that matter to say that is right/wrong or good/bad?

Personally, I would much rather be where I am today, living by myself in a 700 square foot condo with a 2002 Camaro SS, posting on 2 poster forums, than where I was 3 years ago, living in a 2500 square foot townhouse with a 2 car garage that housed my old cars, a 1971 Chevelle SS 454 and a 2007 Corvette, and having to answer to a woman whom I did not get along with (to say the least) 24/7.

I am not taking sides, so I hope no one starts throwing insults at me, like a primate flinging turds, because I am not a fan of "1 guy 1 cup." 

Lastly, as Rodney King said, "Can we all get along?"

Very well said Neo
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Carson on June 04, 2010, 05:30:39 PM
It's just some fun with Rich, Neo.
Nothing to philosophical.

fun is one thing Carson. acting like a petulant child is a whole 'nother thing.
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Post by: holiday on June 04, 2010, 06:05:37 PM
If I've learned anything from my forum experience here it's that no one can please everyone all of the time.  So, I just speak my mind based on what I believe and that's it.

Anyone who resorts to petty insults in an argument is nothing but an witless idiot himself or herself.  It shows a lack of intelligence, and a lack of creativity.  It's the last resort of the dull mind.

There are diverse interests on this forum, as they are anywhere.  That's the way it is people, and I think that's just fine.

And no, Carson, this has nothing to do with our emails.  Nothing at all.  I enjoy relationships with many, many of the folks who are on opposite sides of this debate.  It's not a matter of choosing sides - that's pointless.  It's just how I feel.

Yes, I delete things I find offensive, such as pictures of boners, which have no place here, unless they are on a Polish poster.  That's ok.  I delete things like calling Rich Dick when we know fucking well his name is Rich.  Does calling him Dick support your argument somehow?  I can think of names I'd like to call most of you from time to time, but I don't.  It's pointless, and it's boring.

The beauty of this forum, like Thierry and I have said before, is that he and I don't have any expectations or concerns about participation. He and I would be just fine if we were the only two "members" and we just talk shit and show posters and the like.  That there is even a SINGLE member here is a bonus for us.  We enjoy the friendships, and the debates.  Thierry has always laughed at all the bullshit. I'm catching up to him.  I doesn't rile me any longer.

So, have at it, folks.  Leave.  Stay.  Whatever.  Just don't be hypocritical.

And on that note, yes, I think the thread was originally about POST auction analysis, meaning after an auction ends, Mel.  But, things change.  It went from that to discussing things pre-auction, mid-auction, what have you.  SO WHAT?  Are we so rigid in our views that anyone with contrary views is poisonous.  If you feel like that, then get lost.  Please.

And what about the ones who stir the shit just for the sake of stirring the sit, like the last guy with the "vintage" poster bullshit opinions?  Everyone railed against him, but there's those of you now doing the same fucking thing.  Grow up.

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Post by: eatbrie on June 04, 2010, 06:41:01 PM
Look guys, honestly, I don't give a damn what people do or say, as long as they remain cordial and stay away from personal comments.  Ben (Wonka) sent us an email earlier announcing his decision to walk away from a forum he found offensive.  Maybe he has already.  At the end of the day, it's totally up to him.  The main reason Holiday and I left MPF to create this forum is that we were both sick and tired of Andy's constant editing and banishing, which we will not start doing here.  However, I find the "half black" and "fart soaked chair" comments quite offensive, so I would kindly ask you guys to remain polite to each other.  We're a very small community, and this kind of attitude destroys our hobby.  Agree, disagree, this is what a forum is for.  Leave, stay, like Holiday said, we don't care.  We love you all.

Now, regarding the issue at hand, I personally would like it better if you refrained from posting ongoing auctions (just in case I happened to be looking at such auction.)  Now, that would piss me off.  However, after talking to Holiday a few minutes ago, I realize that stopping you guys from doing it would be a form of censorship and something Andy would do, which I absolutely want to stay away from.  Like Holiday said, there is no way to please everyone, not even me.  So I can't stop you from doing it, I can only say I don't like it.  The rest is up to you.

I remember a discussion Holiday and I had early on.  We agreed that we would only censor racial and derogatory comments.  Everything else is up to you guys.  You're all adults, we're not here to babysit anyone.  Just respect one another, please.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 07:02:15 PM
Thierry.. concerning my post.. here it is in full:
Quote
majority of the forum??  5-6 members is a majority? since when did we only have 10 total members on the forum?? You just mean 5-6 of the members whose names we see don't you?
I think we've seen way more than 10 different members posting, so I don't know how you achieve a comment like "majority of the forum" from just a few members

Do you count l u r k e r s who are members but never post or only post ocassionally?

how do you count non-members who lurk? are they just half a member like blacks were only half a person in the 1800s??

are you just counting the number of people who posted maybe within a stretch of 4 pages in a single thread? Okay.. that's a majority and no one else matters....

before anyone considers this offensive, I have to ask a question: what do you consider to be offensive about the post?? clearly if the entire post is read, what I'm saying is that considering anyone's opinions worthless is wrong, just as it was wrong for blacks to be counted as half a person in the 1800s (and before). In case you are not aware of it, that is indeed how the US census used to consider people before more intelligent philosophy displaced such thinking. For those who did not know this fact, there is your civics lesson. To be sure, no one should be considered 1/2 a person for any reason. Not even rapists and murderers. Why Ben finds it offensive is beyond me, because within the context of my statement, the metaphor is undeniably obvious and clearly not offensive.





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Post by: supraman079 on June 04, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
It's times like these that make me realize that everyone on this forum is a dork, me included. I didn't intend to be one but it happened. I got sucked in just as each one of you did. Yeah, I can go off back to my own personal life and pretend I'm not one but I have a poster collection that begs the differ.

Now in the grand scheme of life. When it is all said and done are you really going to give two shits about anything that happened on this forum? If so then there really is no hope for you and it is travesty that you will miss out on so much that Life has to offer.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 04, 2010, 07:12:19 PM
Rich, in your initial post, it sounded more like a statement against African-Americans.  No matter how historically correct it is, it is offensive if you don't further expose your point of view.  You have, thank you, but it came too late for people not to find it offensive.  I understand what you're saying, and I don't hold it against you, but it did sound a little racially connotated.  Let's move on, shall we?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: supraman079 on June 04, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
I always thought it was 3/5 ths and not 1/2. Besides women got the short end of the stick.

Black Men got to vote in 1869 (15th Amendment)
Women didn't get to vote until 1920 (19th Amendment)

At least that is what I remember from history class.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 07:23:10 PM
thierry.. there is no way anyone who reads my statement and understands it can say there is anything racist about it.. Nothing. Nada. Zip.
There is a metaphor in clear English that is easily understood and the only way someone could get anything racist about it is if they feel such matters should never be spoken about aka: political correctness to forget history.  My ex-wife is black, and I have dated women of all continents and cultures so I am most definitely not a racist and people would do better to read things with an open mind rather than a narrowly focused interpretation.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: supraman079 on June 04, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
I always thought it was 3/5 ths and not 1/2. Besides women got the short end of the stick.

Black Men got to vote in 1869 (15th Amendment)
Women didn't get to vote until 1920 (19th Amendment)

At least that is what I remember from history class.

you could be correct Supraman. It's possible that 3/5's was a Negro and 1/2 was a Native American.
It's really a sad commentary on people of any culture - including ours - which would have such a low feeling toward his fellow man.
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Post by: holiday on June 04, 2010, 08:04:07 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on June 04, 2010, 10:09:31 AM

maybe he should have said "like gary coleman was only half a person"........oh no wait.......he was black........nevermind.. ;) :P


since this thread will probably be deleted........check out our latest auctions!!

http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1 (http://shop.ebay.com/cinemasterpieces/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_mPrRngCbx=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_sop=3&_sc=1)

Nothing's getting deleted, though I may eventually un-stick this train wreck.  That was really funny, though Dave.
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Post by: holiday on June 04, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
For anyone who doubts whether people like this forum, go check out MPF and see how many posts have been made in the last few days over there.  The "civilized" "sterilized" "opinionized" "terrorized" site is dead.  We're alive and kicking.  Everyone loves a good train wreck it would seem.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 04, 2010, 08:22:09 PM
oops.. wrong thread
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Post by: eatbrie on June 04, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: holiday on June 04, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
For anyone who doubts whether people like this forum, go check out MPF and see how many posts have been made in the last few days over there.  The "civilized" "sterilized" "opinionized" "terrorized" site is dead.  We're alive and kicking.  Everyone loves a good train wreck it would seem.

it's not the last few days.  That forum has been dead for weeks.  I feel bad for all the people who are still paying for ad placement.  Oh well, at least they still have Martin Scorsese :)
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Post by: holiday on June 04, 2010, 08:31:46 PM
I actually got my renewal notice to register for MPF Premiere membership.  Ah....No....
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 05, 2010, 08:16:21 AM
Quote from: holiday on June 04, 2010, 08:04:07 PM
Nothing's getting deleted, though I may eventually un-stick this train wreck.  That was really funny, though Dave.

Holiday, it's unfortunate that this subject unleashed so much vitriol.  

I won't add to it other than to say Carson's "poll" was meaningless since it lacked a reasonable middle choice (e.g. $1,000+ posters only), which is what I was advocating.  This morning I checked Heritage for some more stats.  They've sold 49,489 post-1960 posters.  Guess how many have exceeded $1,000?  576, or 1.1%.   I suspect that stat holds true for the other auctions.  In sum, the number of pending auctions that - in my opinion, for what it's worth - should be subject to discussion are very few.

Anyway, since these threads are now tainted with acrimony, I suggest that you retire both existing auction threads and start a new "Auction Discussion" thread with a specific directive to use common sense - and perhaps extreme caution - when discussing pending auctions.

Ending on a positive note:  Stay tuned in the next week or so.  There will be very interesting news that will help patch things up.  More I cannot say.  If you know what I'm talking about then....

(http://canuckjihad.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/shhhh.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2010, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 05, 2010, 08:16:21 AM
I suggest that you retire both existing auction threads and start a new "Auction Discussion" thread with a specific directive to use common sense - and perhaps extreme caution - when discussing pending auctions.

Mel, while I agree with you for the most part, I do not agree with this statement in it's entirety.
You should be able to talk as you wish without any member getting angry regardless of subject, and that is the core issue. As I said earlier, this is the only board I have ever heard of such a thought - to not post about current auctions - and the bottom line is that it is a selfish perspective that it should be any other way. I don't care if anyone outs an auction I'm interested in. I actually start with a belief that anyone interested is going to see the item anyway and if talking about it increases my chances of losing - I DON'T CARE. I still will only bid what I want to bid - win or lose.

a few months back I was the underbidder on the Spies 1sh that Heritage sold.. My bid was something along the lines of $22k. The poster got loads of chat on MoPo before auction and I also commented on it. It was a great poster and because it is the only one known to exist, the likelihood is that I will never own a copy now as the winning bidder has massively deep pockets and will never sell (it will be institutionalized). That's life. Move on! It affects me not.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I won't attack anyone because they don't agree with me, which is unfortunately the way that Carson decided to go. Too bad for him. The biggest mistake he made of course is that he had no ammunition in his bag to try to make me change my mind. His single argument is "why can't you wait 5 days". If he was a on a jury in a trial, he wouldn't be able to convince any opposing juror to change their mind as he either doesn't have the skills to do so, or he doesn't understand how to. In any case, if anything, his attitude only makes we want to out anything I may think he wants to buy, not the opposite.

What is really foolish though is this: how many times has anything been outed on this forum?
I can only think of 2 and I never outed anything - yet, which makes the whole discussion something of a cannard. The other fact that he had himself done so in the past (making him 50% of the outters) on something he had no interest in, now the fear that what he wants may be outed in the future make shim change his belief, which is one more reason that his position on the issue becomes less meaningful to others. "If it affects you.. who cares. If it affects me.. hey, that's a crime". It is a duplicitous position.

Thankfully, Holiday sees no justification in Carson's position and his poll becomes meaningless by that one point.

Dale.. you point to someone being edited by his editor at a newspaper to exemplify that  there is no true "Freedom of Speech". That is also a cannard. A reporter gets paid for his words. His editor almost always tells him what issue to chase and edits according to information needed, space issues within the paper and philosophical issues of the newspaper itself (if any). But the editor does not change the article for capricious reasons - or at least, he isn't supposed to. It is doubtful that any NYT reporter will have his article carried by Fox, and the reverse is probably also true for the most part. But what cannot happen is that no reader can tell the newspaper what to print or not print and therein lay the freedom.

Also, anyone who wishes to stand on a soapbox in the park can say whatever he wishes as long as he/she does not go afoul of law. A KKK member can espouse his hate just as a KKK opponent can espouse his opposing view and while people in the park can certainly scream at the KKK guy to get outta town, they have no legal right to make him stop as long as he stays within the law.

Here on allposterforum, it is not the members who choose what cannot be said. It is the owner who sets the laws and we have so far heard the owner's position that such speech will not be prohibited because in his belief - it is indeed censorship and to be sure, it's censorship of the worst kind - self interested censorship that does no purpose for the members at large.

One more point: the intent of any forum such as this is to promote open speech, not hinder it. It is to help educate and inform it's members of past, current and future events. While outing an auction may be onerous to some, it is equally beneficial to others and why should any one group have a greater weight in determining what is good or bad? To be sure, allposterforum is not a democracy - it is a dictatorship (with Holiday and Thierry being Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos. Though I refuse to identify which is which  wynk ) and no one has to be a citizen of this state. You can choose to be a member or you can choose not as an individual and that is the end of any particular freedom unless the dictator dictates different

that said.. has anyone here seen the Lost in Translation listing on fleaBay?
or how about the Harry Potter lenticulars?

I have no interest in them and maybe somene of the rest of our fine group does
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 05, 2010, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2010, 03:54:02 PM
Mel, while I agree with you for the most part, I do not agree with this statement in it's entirety.
You should be able to talk as you wish without any member getting angry regardless of subject, and that is the core issue.

Like I said before, it's silly to pretend the stuff on the dedicated movie poster auctions - like yours - is not being watched closely by numerous potential buyers, so I personally don't have any problem if anybody discusses them.  (Not that my opinion matters anyway.)

However, most of the forum members are strictly buyers and want to find bargains, so I'm personally never going to discuss low-profile Ebay auctions and would hope that no one else would either.  Just send out an email to those whom you know have interest.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 05, 2010, 05:49:29 PM
Just to keep you guys posted, Ben (Wonka) sent an email to Holiday, Carson, Chad and myself yesterday informing us that he would not be posting on the forum anymore (I believe a direct result of the ongoing bad mouthing and recent fighting).  I have taken him for his word (otherwise, this forum would turn into MPF with 99% of members not posting) and removed his account.  His posts can still be seen, but he is no longer a member here.  Just to make sure no one thinks I banned him or something equivalent.  It was all done in complete agreement.

T
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Post by: brude on June 05, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
That is unfortunate.  I really liked his photos of Cinevent.  He will be missed.
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 05, 2010, 06:26:05 PM
he will be back. in one form or another.

probably silently at first.......just reading threads.

maybe eventually re joining under another name.
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Post by: kovacs01 on June 05, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: brude on June 05, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
That is unfortunate.  I really liked his photos of Cinevent.  He will be missed.

Agreed.  Ben is a good dude, he'll be missed.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 05, 2010, 09:25:17 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 05, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
Agreed.  Ben is a good dude, he'll be missed.

He's always welcome.  I totally understand his reasoning, and I didn't not try to fight it.  Holiday and I always said, like it, stay, don't like it, leave.  But if you like it, then participate.  There is no point in remaining signed up to a forum if you don't participate, unless you want to fool advertisers in believing you own a very active forum.
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Post by: Carson on June 05, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
I've been talking to Ben today and anyone interested in Ben's view on the matter per Ben's view and no one else's see below to avoid any continued bending and misrepresenting the matter per others own views, interest or usual competitiveness. Ben's a friend of all of ours and my my favorite part of the forums; his last post was a contribution of posters from a fun trip he took and my favorite post to date. If you haven't seen take a look at his thread. As for his leaving, Ben's thoughts in Ben's own words below.


From Ben (Wonka Bars):
-------------------------------
Hey poster friends of mine.

Sorry to bother you guys on this glorious Friday, but wanted to relate a few things to you all, namely about my intentions of leaving the APF.

I am definitely not trying to toot my horn out of arrogance in making my exit anything at all closely resembling a big deal...trust me, my ego is not driving anything here.  Seriously.
But since I really like and respect you all, more than you know and definitely more than I have alluded to in the past over two forums for over three years, I want to explain for a sec, I would appreciate the time to bend your ear/eyes.

First, the inconsistency of what is and what isn't allowed in the APF is too chaotic and imbalanced.  Either censor or don't.  Holiday, to say you are essentially holding a banner of anti-censorship now, yet censor stuff all the time (like that stupid penis pic I asked you about and you nicely obliged in removing), well it doesn't work, especially in lieu of the current auction debate.  It's a headache, and while I like the initiative and work you and Thierry took in creating the APF, I feel that more and more it has become like we are all playing in your private yard and you come out and remove info that you personally have issue with, based on your own preferences or mood, rather than having a mindset of the good of the forum as a whole.

The current argument over auctions is so thoughtless, and I don't want to be part of a place that has no neighborly respect for others while openly snubbing their nose at others' potential losses financially.

Mel, as a whole, does the hobby a huge disservice with most of his "info".  I am tired of seeing him sow his bullshit seeds (and never addressing questions thereof).  If this was the MPF a year or two ago, everyone (especially you, Thierry) would have gotten on him every time he arrogantly passed out his Mel Facts, and perhaps taken offense even as we usually try to right wrongs (and repros) this hobby is plagued with.  For some reason he gets a pass on this forum (outside of Carson's apt points that Mel refuses to read), and I don't get it.  Sometimes saying nothing makes it worse, and as I said, hurts the hobby in the long run.

Lastly, I am not going to be told by a crusty, fat dirtbag like Rich that I don't understand what freedom is because of my age.  At 32, I have now taught History and English for several years in highschool and middleschool, and have several family members who have served our country.  When I met him last week, he said to my face "you are too young to really know anything about conventions like this and poster history" after I answered his question about why I started collecting.  He is a crude, obnoxious man (I have other stories of him from last week) and might be one of the most unintelligent men I have ever met.  He is the definition of a loser shithead, and I'm not going to even grace his baldness with a reply.

I do want to finish my Cinevent editorial, because I had you guys in particular in mind when I took the pics and I hope you all and others will enjoy them.  And I hope to see you guys there next year or at some other place because you all are a fun group and I hope one day we can share a laugh or a drink at some other convenient location.

Thierry, I may have to run past your ass at a marathon some time soon...but if you show me the garage, I promise to pull up limp at the gun.  :)

Peace fellas.  And seriously, keep in touch...feel free to text or call whenever.  When I post my collection in the near future, you will be the first to see it.

Ben
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Post by: Neo on June 06, 2010, 01:14:15 AM
For some reason, my last post got deleted.  Since I mentioned the fact that Ben's letter appeared to be a personal conversation, and not a public post, I voiced my opinion, and I am not sure that is allowed unless the moderators agree with it.

Wonka seemed like a good dude, and he really did not need to explain himself regarding why he left.  If it had been me leaving, I would have just written a letter like this  :D
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/giraffe.jpg)

Cookie Monster seems to share my new belief on moderation, kind of  :D
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/moderation.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on June 06, 2010, 01:38:00 AM
I'm hopeful that you got Ben's permission before posting the private email....  I only ask because you didn't indicate this in your post, Carson.
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Post by: Carson on June 06, 2010, 02:40:15 AM
Ben's reasons for leaving were being misrepresented. They were being misrepresented according to Ben. They were being misrepresented in accordance with myself and others. You may recall a similar situation 6 months ago, Holiday.

Having turned 30 just two weeks ago, and a very well received discussion with our friend, Chad B, needless to say, there's only so many more moments as I'm now older I want to devote to our usual poster-nerd matters. I'm currently speaking to Ben and yes my previous post has Ben's approval. Ben is preparing a small something to say and will be posted tomorrow.

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Post by: kovacs01 on June 06, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
personally, I try mostly to avoid the matters of the nerddom and enjoy collecting.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 06, 2010, 03:42:54 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 06, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
personally, I try mostly to avoid the matters of the nerddom and enjoy collecting.

Oh, the drama!!!

Schan, this is one of the best and most mature sentence I have read in a long time.  I think it should be the forum's motto.  Aside from being completely off about basketball, you're actually a pretty smart dude.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 08:07:36 AM
Is it a coincidence that Carson and Wonka are two of the most anonymous members here and also two of the most acrimonious and hostile?

Carson has never posted his picture, has never revealed his real name or profession, and doesn't display his collection. Even Thierry said recently that he barely knows the guy after several years. 

All the above is also true for Wonka, except that he has revealed his name.

They seem to be perpetually enraged about one thing or another.  They hide behind their veils of anonymity and constantly hurl various and sundry invectives, vituperations, and vilifications at their opponents.

Dudes, if you're going to be that way, at least be men about it and show yourselves.
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Post by: Carson on June 06, 2010, 08:11:25 AM
What do you need to achieve, Mel. What's the purpose? It's a dead issue to me. Take care now.
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Post by: Bruce on June 06, 2010, 08:13:37 AM
Truly, why can't we all just get along? Why the need for such drama?

Bruce
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Post by: holiday on June 06, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Quote from: Carson on June 06, 2010, 02:40:15 AM
Ben's reasons for leaving were being misrepresented. They were being misrepresented according to Ben. They were being misrepresented in accordance with myself and others. You may recall a similar situation 6 months ago, Holiday.

Having turned 30 just two weeks ago, and a very well received discussion with our friend, Chad B, needless to say, there's only so many more moments as I'm now older I want to devote to our usual poster-nerd matters. I'm currently speaking to Ben and yes my previous post has Ben's approval. Ben is preparing a small something to say and will be posted tomorrow.



Do me a favor, then. Tell Ben to either join us or leave.  It's bullshit for him to prepare something for you to post, Carson, rather than just joining us and posting what he has to say himself.  Only a fucking coward does that, and you can tell him I said so.  Or perhaps I'm being hypocritical there too.

 No one misrepresented anything that Ben said.  Why not just let it go and get on with things involving posters than all this crap that's been going on recently.  You seem to be the only one that just has to have the last word, Carson.  I told you, that's a lonely place to be.  If you've turned 30, then perhaps it's time to act it, turn the other cheek, and move on.
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Post by: Carson on June 06, 2010, 10:46:10 AM
Quote from: holiday on June 06, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Do me a favor, then. Tell Ben to either join us or leave.  It's bullshit for him to prepare something for you to post, Carson, rather than just joining us and posting what he has to say himself.  Only a fucking coward does that, and you can tell him I said so.  Or perhaps I'm being hypocritical there too.

 No one misrepresented anything that Ben said.  Why not just let it go and get on with things involving posters than all this crap that's been going on recently.  You seem to be the only one that just has to have the last word, Carson.  I told you, that's a lonely place to be.  If you've turned 30, then perhaps it's time to act it, turn the other cheek, and move on.


Take a nap, Holiday. Nobody gives a shit. Read my post above. It's a dead issue to me. If you want to keep posting, keep posting.


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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
Hey Carson & Wonka:

Since you boys have accused me of "hurting the hobby" by disseminating fallacies, perhaps we should re-visit some of our disagreements.

Remember a few months ago when you boys accused me of "completely [sic] folly" and being "misleading" and missing obvious fraud with respect to Heritage?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Carson-Heritage1.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Heritage-Wonka.jpg)

The latest news is that all lawsuits against Heritage have been permanently dismissed.  That means they lacked any legal merit.  Moreover, the accusers were forced to remove all previous false allegations against Heritage.  See the attached.  Also, the Texas attorney general refused to pursue any criminal charges against Heritage.  Now that that whole shebang turned out to be a bunch of malarkey - and you guys were totally off the mark - do you have any response other than insults?

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Post by: eatbrie on June 06, 2010, 12:03:27 PM
Mel, honestly, I don't think this is even worth entertaining.  A member was unhappy, he left, end of the story.  I only wanted to make it clear that he had not been banned, and then this whole charade begins.  It's endless, and quite frankly, boring.

Who freakin' cares?  Let's move on.

T
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Post by: Bruce on June 06, 2010, 12:04:12 PM
Gee Mel, the parties AGREED to end the injunction. Do you see that as the same as being "dismissed"?

It sounds like they paid him to go away, which they surely should have done from the start, given the massive terrible publicity they received, and all the unfortunate information about their operation that was revealed, like their house bidder that almost never wins anything. How in the world do you know the lawsuits "lacked any legal merit"?

Bruce
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Post by: Zorba on June 06, 2010, 12:17:27 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 08:07:36 AM

has never posted his picture, has never revealed his real name or profession,

HEY!!!! These were not asked for in the application!!!
I will probably eventually post a pic. I might even reveal my real name at some point but I fail to see why you would need to know my profession.
You sure you are a lawyer and not just one of those new govt cenus workers hired to inflate employment figures?  :P

You all sure to do take movie paper very seriously. I also must say these threads have been great entertainment  ;D
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Post by: supraman079 on June 06, 2010, 12:44:29 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 06, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
personally, I try mostly to avoid the matters of the nerddom and enjoy collecting.

The keyword is "try." I'm the same way which is probably one reason I've never pulled the trigger on any Star Wars paper. No offense to anyone who has. But for me, every time I think about purchasing one, a flash comes into my head of all those crazy people dressed up in costumes lined up for blocks trying to see one of the movies or get into some crazy event. There is a line that not only do I not want to cross but I'd like to stay far away from or at least as much as possible, so I usually opt for getting another Eastwood or QT piece. Gotta keep with my collection theme of, "The Cinema of Cool."
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Post by: holiday on June 06, 2010, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: Zorba on June 06, 2010, 12:17:27 PM
HEY!!!! These were not asked for in the application!!!
I will probably eventually post a pic. I might even reveal my real name at some point but I fail to see why you would need to know my profession.
You sure you are a lawyer and not just one of those new govt cenus workers hired to inflate employment figures?  :P

You all sure to do take movie paper very seriously. I also must say these threads have been great entertainment  ;D

I just woke up from my nap.  It was a great suggestion.  I'm glad you've been entertained, Zorba.  At least there's that bit of usefulness from all this.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 06, 2010, 12:04:12 PM
Gee Mel, the parties AGREED to end the injunction. Do you see that as the same as being "dismissed"?

It sounds like they paid him to go away, which they surely should have done from the start, given the massive terrible publicity they received, and all the unfortunate information about their operation that was revealed, like their house bidder that almost never wins anything. How in the world do you know the lawsuits "lacked any legal merit"?

Bruce

No, it was not a typical settlement at all - and it appears that there was no settlement at all.  The plaintiff not only dropped his claims but was forced to remove all existing allegations from the Internet about Heritage.  That's a first-class legal @ss-whipping.

So as it stands, there is absolutely zero objective evidence to support Carson's, Wonka's, and your opinion that Heritage has done anything wrong.  More to the point, they had no grounds to accuse me of "harming the hobby" by staying neutral and not jumping on their anti-Heritage bandwagon.

And Zorba, there's no requirement to give any personal information about yourself.  But if you're going to constantly make personal attacks on others, then it's only fair that you stop hiding. (And I'm not talking about you.)
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Post by: Zorba on June 06, 2010, 03:39:05 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 01:22:05 PM
No, And Zorba, there's no requirement to give any personal information about yourself.  But if you're going to constantly make personal attacks on others, then it's only fair that you stop hiding. (And I'm not talking about you.)

I know you arent talking to me and I knew what you were getting at  8)
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Post by: scartacus on June 06, 2010, 06:21:36 PM
I am going to break my golden rule here and contribute to "testy thread" that has nothing to do with me. Mel, I know you can look after yourself but after reading this latest spat I feel I have to throw in my two penny's worth.

A forum is only good as its contributors -- in my opinion, Mel is a tireless, prime contributor to this forum. His posts are always entertaining and he shares a huge amount of his stuff with everyone else. On the few occasions when he is "off" about something -- certain people seem to react disproportionately, treating him like an imbecile which clearly he is not.

We need to look after our prime assets like Mel, because if there was no Mel, this forum would be a much poorer place.

We also need to learn how to disagree with each other without getting superior/condescending/patronising. The shit stirrers need to learn to play nice, or play somewhere else. You know who you are. 



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Post by: eatbrie on June 06, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
I could not agree more.
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Post by: kovacs01 on June 06, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: supraman079 on June 06, 2010, 12:44:29 PM
The keyword is "try." I'm the same way which is probably one reason I've never pulled the trigger on any Star Wars paper. No offense to anyone who has. But for me, every time I think about purchasing one, a flash comes into my head of all those crazy people dressed up in costumes lined up for blocks trying to see one of the movies or get into some crazy event. There is a line that not only do I not want to cross but I'd like to stay far away from or at least as much as possible, so I usually opt for getting another Eastwood or QT piece. Gotta keep with my collection theme of, "The Cinema of Cool."

You're so full of shit Chad.  I saw that life size bronze Yoda standing next to the 3 foot tall cloud city model hanging by monofilament in your room.  You're the big boss nerd.  BTW, I am driving down from Kansas tomorrow and have a couple of posters for you.

Schan
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Post by: brude on June 06, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
Scartacus nails it.  Well put.
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Post by: holiday on June 06, 2010, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 06, 2010, 07:01:37 PM
I could not agree more.

Ditto.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 06, 2010, 10:37:47 PM
Thanks guys. And just for the record, my posts have nothing to do with ego.  It's all fun and games.

Now here's the conclusion to the post that started the wholly unnecessary brouhaha:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/SW.jpg)

Checked Emovie and Heritage and very few Star Wars posters have reached the $2,000 mark.  I still think this a fair price for this.

 
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Post by: holiday on June 06, 2010, 11:03:48 PM
I wouldn't pay the extra vig for the printers proof.  Given the beautiful condition of the poster, though, it's worth it.  I love that poster of all the Star Wars posters.  I remember being proud back then when it was still in theaters a YEAR later.  Boy, times have changed!
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Post by: Ari on June 06, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
Ill still argue these are not a printers proofs but we have been there, done that.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 07, 2010, 06:05:50 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 06, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
Ill still argue these are not a printers proofs but we have been there, done that.

Why not?  Can you link to the prior discussion(s)?
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 07, 2010, 01:07:21 PM
This is a "Printer's Proof". Period.

It comes straight from a former employee who used to work at Gore Graphics in the 1970's. Gore Graphics printed many of the posters for the National Screen Service. We have a few other proofs from this source, and some of them are one of a kind. He (and other employees) used them directly to check for color consistency etc.. They were the first ones off the press. He had the freedom to take home whatever he wanted, so he decided to keep these and not throw them away like they usually did. He enjoyed his job there very much and that was one of the perks.
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Post by: Bruce on June 07, 2010, 01:18:37 PM
Dave is correct. The printer proofs I auctioned a number of years ago came from a different Gore Graphics employee. There is no telling how many of each were kept by how many different employees. I do know that the studios splashed money around like crazy at that time, sometimes printing up several different full-color variations and then picking one to use, which was a very expensive procedure (of course, a slightly better poster could yield millions more at the box office, and those WERE pre-computer days).

Bruce
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Post by: archie leach on June 09, 2010, 06:22:21 AM
Soooo... what'd I miss?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 22, 2010, 03:26:42 AM
Polish ESB Teaser on fleaBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Empire-Poland-Movie-Teaser-Poster-ultra-rare-/220625968397?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335e551d0d (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Empire-Poland-Movie-Teaser-Poster-ultra-rare-/220625968397?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335e551d0d)

I've never seen it.. is that an original release poster?
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Post by: guest8 on June 22, 2010, 06:05:04 AM
Does tht poster have the USS Enterprise on it ?!?!?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 22, 2010, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on June 22, 2010, 06:05:04 AM
Does tht poster have the USS Enterprise on it ?!?!?

LOL.. I didn't even notice that.. LOL
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Post by: Zorba on June 22, 2010, 06:23:48 PM
Thats great  laugh1
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Post by: CSM on June 22, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
That's near sacrilege in some parts!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 22, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Star Wars in Hebrew going for $1500 with four days to go. Same seller as below.  I wouldn't pay more than $15 myself...

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/StarWars-4.jpg)

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Post by: guest8 on June 23, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
Guess Ill have to break out the large format printer !!! :P
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Post by: Louie D. on June 23, 2010, 12:06:55 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 22, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Star Wars in Hebrew going for $1500 with four days to go. Same seller as below.  I wouldn't pay more than $15 myself...

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/StarWars-4.jpg)



Well, if Carson goes to sell one like it, don't offer him $15 for it or he'll ban you from the board.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 23, 2010, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on June 23, 2010, 12:06:55 PM
Well, if Carson goes to sell one like it, don't offer him $15 for it or he'll ban you from the board.

Lou-e Loo-way, don't mess with the bull lest you get the horns....   8)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 23, 2010, 06:11:08 PM
I thought Louie was funny myself

I wonder why the seller's 2 polish posters are only still at $1 while teh Israeli is $1429??

that is a mystery
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Post by: Zorba on June 23, 2010, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 23, 2010, 06:11:08 PM
I thought Louie was funny myself


Im thinking you found it more satisfying than funny  ;)
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Post by: brude on June 27, 2010, 12:53:22 PM
                                            (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/AnimatedGifSouthPark15-1.gif)
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Post by: supraman079 on June 27, 2010, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 23, 2010, 06:11:08 PM
I wonder why the seller's 2 polish posters are only still at $1 while teh Israeli is $1429??

that is a mystery

Interesting.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2010, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: Zorba on June 23, 2010, 07:19:55 PM
Im thinking you found it more satisfying than funny  ;)

nah.. I thought it was funny

wynk
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Post by: Zorba on June 27, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2010, 03:15:40 PM
nah.. I thought it was funny

wynk

Ya...you did  :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
Bladerunner Alamo poster.. here it is again - repeat!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Blade-Runner-Variant-Tyler-Stout-Poster-S-N-Mint-Con-/150461175620?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23082f5744 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Blade-Runner-Variant-Tyler-Stout-Poster-S-N-Mint-Con-/150461175620?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23082f5744)

same seller, same picture.
either has dupes or is a full of **** seller who willpull it down again, or was not paid.. or it's just hinky!!!
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Post by: CSM on June 27, 2010, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
Bladerunner Alamo poster.. here it is again - repeat!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Blade-Runner-Variant-Tyler-Stout-Poster-S-N-Mint-Con-/150461175620?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23082f5744 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Blade-Runner-Variant-Tyler-Stout-Poster-S-N-Mint-Con-/150461175620?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23082f5744)

same seller, same picture.
either has dupes or is a full of **** seller who willpull it down again, or was not paid.. or it's just hinky!!!

Rich, he's put in the auction he is relisting due to non-paying buyer.  Serves him right for pulling it the first time!!  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2010, 06:25:19 PM
LOL.. what a donkey
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 29, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
Any thoughts on Heritage's July Signature Auction?  Some of my favorites - and obviously multi-thousand $$$ way beyond my budget!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Casablanca.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/BrideofFrankenstein.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Godzilla.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ForbiddenPlanet.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2001.jpg)
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Post by: brude on June 29, 2010, 05:52:40 AM
Now, Mel, why didja go an do that? Not that I have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any one of those beauties...but I cry a river every time I see the Forbidden Planet one sheet because it reminds me of the two I sold to others over the years.  Biggest mistakes I ever made...
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Post by: kovacs01 on June 29, 2010, 08:19:37 AM
Some very nice stuff on that auction.  One thing that has had me puzzled is the 2001 Eye poster though.  For as many of those as turn up, the price it fetches seems high to me.  Unless, it is the same 2 or 3 selling over and over again.
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Post by: Zorba on June 29, 2010, 08:26:57 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 29, 2010, 12:14:43 AM
Any thoughts on Heritage's July Signature Auction?  Some of my favorites - and obviously multi-thousand $$$ way beyond my budget!


Im in that same boat with you and what I assume is most others....My watch list is already full of stuff I cant afford  :)
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Post by: supraman079 on June 29, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: Zorba on June 29, 2010, 08:26:57 AM
My watch list is already full of stuff I cant afford  :)

It's still fun though. Maybe one day we'll get to come off the sidelines and play in the big game.
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Post by: oldposterho on June 29, 2010, 10:37:34 AM
A quick reminder that Christmas is just around the corner, and those of you who still haven't gotten me a present yet (you know who you are...) should pay particular heed to the "Blackmail" db or the "Footlight Parade" one sheet.  Your choice, it's better if it's a surprise.

--Peter
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on June 29, 2010, 11:22:16 AM
Some very nice posters, including one I'd like to have, but kinda thin on the comedy side (at least the stuff I'm interested in).  Wish they had less western material, because I don't collect it, and added more comedy material  ;D
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Post by: Zorba on June 29, 2010, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: supraman079 on June 29, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
It's still fun though. Maybe one day we'll get to come off the sidelines and play in the big game.

Yep, its definately fun and heres to that one day  cheers
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 06, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
Ha-ha - these Pussycat Kill Kill posters ($1500+ estimate) from the sig auction are "killer" as well:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-2.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-1.jpg)
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Post by: Neo on July 06, 2010, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 06, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
Ha-ha - these Pussycat Kill Kill posters ($1500+ estimate) from the sig auction are "killer" as well:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-2.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-1.jpg)

BWAAAAAHAHAHA!!  ;D  Those are some serious WTF posters, especially considering they are from 45 years ago.   :D
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Post by: Bruce on July 17, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
Hey, why isn't THIS topic "pinned"?

 qip qip
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Post by: holiday on July 17, 2010, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
Hey, why isn't THIS topic "pinned"?

 qip qip
Just for you Bruce.  Cus ya know I luv ya
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Post by: Zorba on July 17, 2010, 05:46:34 PM
Any one else ever fall asleep during an auction and miss bidding on something you really wanted ?

Just happened to me today during Heritage live moron1  :-[ :'( laugh1
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Post by: Bruce on July 17, 2010, 09:06:25 PM
Thanks Holiday!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 27, 2010, 11:49:20 PM
Didn't take long for the King Kong pressbook to blast past $1,000 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1880760):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/King.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 06, 2010, 08:18:19 AM
$14,000+ for this? I don't get it - maybe the movie was great but this is just a cigarette ad to me:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/gilda_styleB_LB00289_L.jpg)

Of course, it's not substantially different from Pulp Fiction in that respect:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PulpFiction1994SSRregThurman.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on August 06, 2010, 09:40:59 AM
Mel, it's Rita Hayworth at the peak of her appeal in a strapless gown flippantly saying "FU" to the establishment through her sly smirk and casually held cig.

That's all that needs to be said!
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Post by: Zorba on August 06, 2010, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: CSM on August 06, 2010, 09:40:59 AM
Mel, it's Rita Hayworth at the peak of her appeal in a strapless gown flippantly saying "FU" to the establishment through her sly smirk and casually held cig.

That's all that needs to be said!

Yes...That thing is beautiful...Its not a cigarete I see her holding when I look at that  8) 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 06, 2010, 10:22:21 AM
It's no secret that Hollywood - in part due to product placement payments from the tobacco industry  (http://www.smokefreemovies.ucsf.edu/problem/moviessell.html) - has always glamorized cigarettes, which of course kills 25% of smokers and damages the health of the rest.  

But enough preaching from me.  And hell yes Rita Hayworth is spectacular.
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Post by: brude on August 06, 2010, 06:38:45 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 06, 2010, 08:18:19 AM
$14,000+ for this? I don't get it - maybe the movie was great but this is just a cigarette ad to me:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/gilda_styleB_LB00289_L.jpg)


Now, now, Mel.  GILDA is a classic and that iconic poster is worth every penny.  What a gorgeous piece of classic film memorabilia.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 06, 2010, 06:45:05 PM
Man, this is just absolutely gorgeous.  Just incredible.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 06, 2010, 07:39:27 PM
The Italian 2 panel beats it by a country mile - plus no cig!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Hayworth-GildaItaly2p.jpg)
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Post by: brude on August 06, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
That's a beauty, no doubt...
But I am still partial to the one sheet....va-va voom!!
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Post by: Zorba on August 06, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
Quote from: brude on August 06, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
That's a beauty, no doubt...
But I am still partial to the one sheet....va-va voom!!

Gotta agree with you.

Love the way she fills all the way out...That V shaped transition from that green to purple is so PERFECTLY placed...........

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Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
Mel

You gotta admit she is one smokin' babe (and she just passed $20,000!).

I imagine you know that practically every man and teenage boy in the 1940s fantasied about being with Hayworth in this role and when she was asked why she had had so little romantic success in her personal life she replied (remarkably candidly) "Men go to bed with Gilda, but wake up with me"!

Bruce
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Post by: Zorba on August 08, 2010, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 09:18:38 AM

You gotta admit she is one smokin' babe (and she just passed $20,000!).


Wowza! I guess Im out then.  :P

That broad was always outta my league.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 08, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 09:18:38 AM
I imagine you know that practically every man and teenage boy in the 1940s fantasied about being with Hayworth in this role...

If a picture tells a thousands words, a video tells a million (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1SMBjfSjI)....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Gilda.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1SMBjfSjI)
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Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 12:01:16 PM
Is there no stopping her? Now she's at $21,500, with 4 hours to go!

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on August 08, 2010, 03:19:41 PM
Wow...trully impressive price for a trully impressive poster...
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Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 03:56:56 PM
$23,833.00 with 12 minutes to go!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1883506 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1883506)
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Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 04:00:17 PM
$ 25,157.00 with 5 minutes to go!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1883506 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1883506)
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Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2010, 04:09:32 PM
$ 25,657.00 CLOSED!

I am envious of the new owner, and hope he/she displays this wonderful poster in a prominent place!

Bruce
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Post by: Zorba on August 08, 2010, 04:11:40 PM
Nice....$25,657

I was tempted to bid $26,000 but I would have been 25,000 short  ;D

Not the Stanley Cup Finals but still fun to watch.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 03:36:01 PM
just in case my friends haven't seen them

there is an ET flying saucer advance ending on Ebay in a little more than 1 hour
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140437280087 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140437280087)

and the same seller has a Star Wars birthday poster
http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Star-Wars-birthday-1-sheet-original-movie-poster-/140437295687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Star-Wars-birthday-1-sheet-original-movie-poster-/140437295687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0)
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Post by: Freefall on August 11, 2010, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 03:36:01 PM
just in case my friends haven't seen them

there is an ET flying saucer advance ending on Ebay in a little more than 1 hour
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140437280087 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140437280087)

and the same seller has a Star Wars birthday poster
http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Star-Wars-birthday-1-sheet-original-movie-poster-/140437295687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Star-Wars-birthday-1-sheet-original-movie-poster-/140437295687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0)


Too pricey for my blood.

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Post by: Harry Caul on August 11, 2010, 04:04:42 PM
Yeah, that seller has a high opening bids which is a turn off for most buyers/bidders... too bad as he's got a nice selection.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 05:34:12 PM
the ET poster is most certainly NOT a high starting bid

yes, it's more than 99 cents, but that poster is exceedingly rare and retail, in that condition is at least $700-800

for such a rare poster, I think the seller is being reasonably fair (for a non-99 cent starting bid)
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Post by: archie leach on August 11, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 05:34:12 PM
the ET poster is most certainly NOT a high starting bid

yes, it's more than 99 cents, but that poster is exceedingly rare and retail, in that condition is at least $700-800

for such a rare poster, I think the seller is being reasonably fair (for a non-99 cent starting bid)

Apparently not.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 06:11:34 PM
apparently not what? that it isn't a bargain..? jason, really.. how stupid can you get? Just because it didn't sell this morning doesn't mean the poster wasn't cheap.
The economy sucks if you haven't noticed and while Bruce may have trumpeted his results of last week, the reality is that even those results sucked. babe Comes Home for $9700? That poster got higher bids just last year in Morry's auction. House of Dracula insert at $5901.. Heritage has gotten as high as $15k not too long ago. I Walked With a Zombie insert $2100.. if you think that's a good result, then you clearly have no idea. That ET poster is a great poster, though the condition isn't top notch

here is a Heritage result $3107
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=693&Lot_No=64334

Bruce hasn't sold a copy since 2006 and got as high as $1600 in 1996

The poster is an absolute bargain for any collector looking for the poster, and it's rarity adds to that as who knows when another will come up.
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Post by: CSM on August 11, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
Obviously the demand has slipped and/or the right collecter/bidder/investor was not aware of the auction.

In the end, the market dictates value not past sales results...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 11, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
Obviously the demand has slipped and/or the right collecter/bidder/investor was not aware of the auction.
In the end, the market dictates value not past sales results...

only if you desire to micro-manage a value, however the reality is somewhere in between, especially in a market that eschews a price guide for standardization (I agree with this to great extent in posters).
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Post by: Bruce on August 11, 2010, 09:00:37 PM
"while Bruce may have trumpeted his results of last week, the reality is that even those results sucked"

Rich, Rich, Rich.

Untrue and beneath you. Those results from other auctions you love to quote likely were never paid for, or were made by a house bidder, or were a consignor buying back their own items.

My results (good and bad) were the results of real bidders bidding against real bidders (just as your results are). They may have been lower than some imaginary results in some cases, but in many other cases they were much higher.

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 11, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
Folded ET advance posters have sold in the $460 - $600 range at Heritage.  (The first three are rolled).

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ET.jpg)

So $499 sounds about right - or even a bit high - for this poster, especially since the front shows discoloration and the back shows rippling or moisture damage (I've correct the lighting on the seller's pic):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ET2.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 11, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 11, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
In the end, the market dictates value not past sales results...

I agree with this 100%.  Most of what we know about pricing has come from the peak of the market.  Some posters will clearly hold their value better than others, but I think we are seeing nearly everything pull back from their 2007/2008 prices...
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Post by: CSM on August 11, 2010, 11:07:53 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 11, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
I agree with this 100%.  Most of what we know about pricing has come from the peak of the market.  Some posters will clearly hold their value better than others, but I think we are seeing nearly everything pull back from their 2007/2008 prices...

Just like certain...ummm...Bogart posters ;)
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 11, 2010, 11:14:54 PM
Which is why it is always best to judge value based on 1980's prices ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 11, 2010, 09:00:37 PM
"while Bruce may have trumpeted his results of last week, the reality is that even those results sucked"
Rich, Rich, Rich.
Untrue and beneath you. Those results from other auctions you love to quote likely were never paid for, or were made by a house bidder, or were a consignor buying back their own items.
My results (good and bad) were the results of real bidders bidding against real bidders (just as your results are). They may have been lower than some imaginary results in some cases, but in many other cases they were much higher.
Bruce

bruce, I'm not dogging your auctions. You know me better than that. I'm just saying.. the economy sucks and it is even reflected in your results recently. For instance, the Babe Comes Home insert. Morrie had it in his auction and Sean had bid over $15,000, but it did not meet the reserve (a wild $40k). So there is one.

I Walked With a Zombie .. that size is one of the most difficult to find on that title and one of the most desirable because it has a different image and (again) Sean has sold it for $4k, Heritage has never sold it and last time you sold it it was a considerably lesser copy for $3076 in 2007

those are just two examples.. after the auctions, I actually spot checked a number of items Bruce. Not to see how you were doing - but how the market was doing. Your auctions are great, and you took in lots of money. Some stuff was high, some low. Alot was surprisingly lower than it should have been because the quality of those items or scarcity meant they should have sold for more. Val Lewton for one. the interest in his films is at an all time high I think, so the Zombie insert surprised me as a very reasonable price for the buyer. The Babe Comes Home, like the Universal insert (can't remember if it was house of frank or Drac.. frank right?) both probably suffered from fatigue. Babe more than the other. Many Babe Comes Home posters of various sizes have both disappointed in recent years and been offered too much, and it probably whacked that down some. For my money, I think the insert is the best poster on the title with that fantastic image of Babe in a slugger position.

but don't think I was slamming you Bruce.. you know better, though maybe I should have said "some of Bruce's results.. blah blah"

Rich
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Post by: Bruce on August 11, 2010, 11:31:38 PM
Thanks for clarifying Rich. Honest no reserve auctions will ALWAYS have lower prices overall than auctions with high reserves, mysterious maxed bids, etc.

But they also will have a ZERO percent pass rate, as opposed to the hundreds of passes in those other auctions.

But I can't help noticing you didn't mention that Lawrence of Arabia. If my price "sucked" then what was those other guy's result which was half mine three weeks before?

Bruce
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Post by: eatbrie on August 11, 2010, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2010, 05:34:12 PM
the ET poster is most certainly NOT a high starting bid

yes, it's more than 99 cents, but that poster is exceedingly rare and retail, in that condition is at least $700-800

for such a rare poster, I think the seller is being reasonably fair (for a non-99 cent starting bid)

To me, that poster is worth absolutely nothing.  If the picture I see on the seller's site is the best picture he could post, the poster is completely discolored.  The folds don't bother me (they never do), but discoloration is a no-no.  This poster is a must with the right colors, and can certainly reach $700-800 ($1,000 + for the rolled version), but not in this condition.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2010, 01:11:02 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 11, 2010, 11:31:38 PM
Thanks for clarifying Rich. Honest no reserve auctions will ALWAYS have lower prices overall than auctions with high reserves, mysterious maxed bids, etc.

But they also will have a ZERO percent pass rate, as opposed to the hundreds of passes in those other auctions.

But I can't help noticing you didn't mention that Lawrence of Arabia. If my price "sucked" then what was those other guy's result which was half mine three weeks before?

Bruce

that was a great result. Myself, I don't see it with that poster. I think it's like BAT - a bit overpriced.
of course, I only had bid on 1 item that particular night in your auction and of course, it went for more than the last few that sold

 moron1
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2010, 01:11:21 AM
oh.. and I didn't win it
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2010, 04:48:35 AM
Mel.. you need to include dates on sales if you want to use them for debate, especially as we know many of those Heritage results go back 6-8 years

and again concering this prior statement:
In the end, the market dictates value not past sales results...

again - yes - and no. the truth is somewhere in the middle

an auction gets the best result ON THAT DAY. It is a sale that says "I'm selling today, no matter what the price, at this very minute". It is a one-dimensional sale. The market is three-dimensional. Different dealers get different results - even on the same day and in the same venue. Do you doubt that Dave wouldn't have sold that poster for a good price with his following and if the economy was robust, again it's a different story. The poster could sell for more tomorrow in the same venue it was listed today - it happens alot on fleaBay. Recently, I forgot to bid on an item at $39.99. it relisted, my high bid wound up being $86 and I didn't win it. But again - that's in an auction.

You go to someone's store or gallery, the prices are wildly different. They are all correct for their market
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Post by: 50s on August 12, 2010, 07:36:58 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2010, 04:48:35 AM
and again concering this prior statement:
In the end, the market dictates value not past sales results...

again - yes - and no. the truth is somewhere in the middle

I reckon the market is influenced by past sales results. I know I have seen a poster I liked, thought, I reckon a winning bid would be say, $200, then looked up sales results that said $450, so instead max bid $650. I do that adjustment all the time... Only in this climate I'd put down $400 or $500... so, past sales results definately have some influence in the market in which I swim, else I would be bidding $200 and losing... Theres always someone in the pot doing an upward revision I suspect.

That is why I am a believer its in emovieposters interest to keep the sales database accessible, so newbies can find out what they really need to put down for quality posters. 1million hits on the database is not because it is of little use. It is a fundamental tool for me in setting my bids.
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Post by: Bruce on August 12, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
Thanks for the kind words. But you made a typo. It hasn't had one million hits, but rather ELEVEN million hits in the past five years (since we last had a major update).

AND WE ARE NOW CLOSE TO UNVEILING OUR GIGANTIC UPDATE, WHERE WE FINALLY MERGE OUR SALES RESULTS DATABASE WITH OUR IMAGE ARCHIVE!

Bruce
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 12, 2010, 08:57:41 AM
Quote from: 50s on August 12, 2010, 07:36:58 AM
I reckon the market is influenced by past sales results. I know I have seen a poster I liked, thought, I reckon a winning bid would be say, $200, then looked up sales results that said $450, so instead max bid $650. I do that adjustment all the time... Only in this climate I'd put down $400 or $500... so, past sales results definately have some influence in the market in which I swim, else I would be bidding $200 and losing... Theres always someone in the pot doing an upward revision I suspect.

And *that* right there is exactly what auction houses like Heritage* and Christie's* are hoping for!  If a previous sale is listed in the archives at $450, that means that the actual high bid was at least 20% less ($360) and the seller probably only received 80% of that bid ($288) after consignment fees, listing fees, marketing fees, insurance, catalog fees, etc...

If you (and at least one other person) see the $450 result and believe you'll need to spend $650 to get it... well that is why the next result for the archive will be $780 ;)

Now 50s, I'm not saying that *you* personally do not factor all those fees into your bids... I think most knowledgeable buyers do (or should).  However, there are a lot of casual buyers out there who can easily get seduced by archive prices.  All it takes is two!



* Before Bruce or Rich chime in, eMovie and MPB of course do not charge buyer premiums and they should be commended for it.
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Post by: 50s on August 12, 2010, 10:05:57 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 12, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
Thanks for the kind words. But you made a typo. It hasn't had one million hits, but rather ELEVEN million hits in the past five years (since we last had a major update).

AND WE ARE NOW CLOSE TO UNVEILING OUR GIGANTIC UPDATE, WHERE WE FINALLY MERGE OUR SALES RESULTS DATABASE WITH OUR IMAGE ARCHIVE!


Yeah, that is long overdue - good move. That should reduce load on your server, and hopefully makes searches that bit quicker too.

I'm guessing it is all set up now for pay per view?! ;-)

BTW is that search progress bar accurate... seems to start 2/3's into the search and last the same amount of time? Obviously I spend too much time looking at certain beige coloured web pages.

Surprised you didnt mention the 44million page views on the image archive.  ;)

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 12, 2010, 10:11:16 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2010, 04:48:35 AM
Mel.. you need to include dates on sales if you want to use them for debate, especially as we know many of those Heritage results go back 6-8 years

Some of those Heritage prices are from a few years ago but the $597 sale is for a VF/F (not LB) poster from three months ago.   I also checked Emovie, which has sold in the same ballpark price range, with linen-backed posters going for more.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 13, 2010, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 12, 2010, 08:57:41 AM

* Before Bruce or Rich chime in, eMovie and MPB of course do not charge buyer premiums and they should be commended for it.

Harry.. there are reasons for this

1) Neither one of us is really a "stand alone auction house"
2) Neither one of us has a need to shadow who the consignment % comes from

keep in mind, that doesn't mean I disagree with Heritage or Sothebys of Christies etc's business models. They have one model, Bruce and I have another. Something that people don't realize:
 buyer's premiums really are not paid by buyers - they're paid by consignors as a hidden fee.

and also Harry.. thanks for the shout out

wynk

Rich
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Post by: Bruce on August 15, 2010, 01:51:31 PM
What IS a stand-alone auction, anyway? But if it requires buyers premiums I want no part of it!

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
yuo want no part of it
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Post by: Bruce on August 15, 2010, 04:45:22 PM
Was "Dewey, Cheatem & Howe" a fictitious law firm or a "stand-alone auction"?

jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 15, 2010, 04:45:22 PM
Was "Dewey, Cheatem & Howe" a fictitious law firm or a "stand-alone auction"?
Bruce

you query the wrong person.. you need to ask Carson Cockran
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Post by: Bruce on August 19, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
Someone was posting about the S2 re-creations, and buying one if one goes cheap. Well we have four closing in a few hours, and one IS currently really cheap!

5f002 INVISIBLE MAN S2 recreation 1sh '98 James Whale, H.G. Wells, catch me if you can teaser art!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1896356 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1896356)

Bruce
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Post by: guest8 on August 20, 2010, 06:03:38 PM
Ohh .. Stout .. Blade Runner Variant .. I couldnt imagine paying this much though !!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tyler-Stout-BLADE-RUNNER-VARIANT-Alamo-Drafthouse-RARE-/130421435080?pt=Art_Prints (http://cgi.ebay.com/Tyler-Stout-BLADE-RUNNER-VARIANT-Alamo-Drafthouse-RARE-/130421435080?pt=Art_Prints)
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Post by: jpicken on August 22, 2010, 12:08:57 AM
I really did like this movie when I saw it tonight, but WTF?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220656711379 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220656711379)
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Post by: Neo on August 22, 2010, 03:01:48 AM
Quote from: jpicken on August 22, 2010, 12:08:57 AM
I really did like this movie when I saw it tonight, but WTF?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220656711379 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220656711379)

I saw the movie a few days ago, and it was definitely unique.  It was an ambitious film, and achieved what it was trying to (IMO) and has the potential to be a classic that a lot of people will look back on and remember seeing.  

That is a cool design for the poster, although I prefer the lenticular  ;).  One sold on Ebay a week ago http://cgi.ebay.com/SCOTT-PILGRIM-VS-WORLD-MOVIE-POSTER-LENTICULAR-3D-/300453940462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 (http://cgi.ebay.com/SCOTT-PILGRIM-VS-WORLD-MOVIE-POSTER-LENTICULAR-3D-/300453940462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0)  
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Post by: guest8 on August 22, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
My guess is a lot of people liked the film and think its going t have a huge draw on the market place when just like any new film they sell strong at 1st and if youre lucky 1% of those retain maybe half the value that they brought during their peak sales times while the movie was in theaters.
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Post by: CSM on August 22, 2010, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on August 22, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
My guess is a lot of people liked the film and think its going t have a huge draw on the market place when just like any new film they sell strong at 1st and if youre lucky 1% of those retain maybe half the value that they brought during their peak sales times while the movie was in theaters.

Agreed.
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Post by: joneyyy on August 22, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
225!!!  and stil over a day & half to go.... are these people nuts...
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Post by: Neo on August 22, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on August 22, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
My guess is a lot of people liked the film and think its going t have a huge draw on the market place when just like any new film they sell strong at 1st and if youre lucky 1% of those retain maybe half the value that they brought during their peak sales times while the movie was in theaters.

It may fall to half of what was paid for it during the initial "buzz, hype", or whatever when the movie is first released, for a period of time.  Only time will tell what the long term future market value of it will be, and even that will probably shift with times. 
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Post by: Bruce on August 22, 2010, 12:06:37 PM
Here's one for Thierry, ending soon:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255)

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Bruce
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Post by: guest8 on August 22, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
The ONLY hope that this movie has of maintaining the value of its posters is if it become a huge cult classic .. and sadly I dont see that happening .. It may be a fun movie people remember watching when they were younger and want the posters just for the sake of nostalgia but that will probably be all ..
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Post by: stewart boyle on August 22, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 22, 2010, 12:06:37 PM
Here's one for Thierry, ending soon:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255)

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Bruce

Shiver..... Bruce if you had to.. Amy Winehouse or Sarah Jessica.?.....


Stew
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Post by: Neo on August 22, 2010, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on August 22, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
The ONLY hope that this movie has of maintaining the value of its posters is if it become a huge cult classic .. and sadly I dont see that happening .. It may be a fun movie people remember watching when they were younger and want the posters just for the sake of nostalgia but that will probably be all ..

If ONLY my crystal ball were working better, I could provide evidence that supports or rejects your hypothesis.   :D
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Post by: Neo on August 22, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 22, 2010, 12:06:37 PM
Here's one for Thierry, ending soon:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1898255)

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Bruce

I don't think she looks bad.  Definitely not as bad as South Park makes her look, IMO.   :D
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Post by: Zorba on August 22, 2010, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on August 22, 2010, 12:35:12 PM

 Definitely not as bad as South Park makes her look, IMO.   :D

Are we talking about the same transvestite donkey witch?  ;D
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Post by: joneyyy on August 22, 2010, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: AmovieMasterpiece on August 22, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
225!!!  and stil over a day & half to go.... are these people nuts...

auction has finished early...?
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 19, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
I normally shy away from posting in-progress auctions, but I imagine if you are willing to pony up more than $776 for a For Your Eyes Only 40x60 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=510093&Lot_No=53148) you probably already know about this auction!

3 hours to go... get the popcorn!

 pcorn
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Post by: Zorba on September 19, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 19, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
I normally shy away from posting in-progress auctions, but I imagine if you are willing to pony up more than $776 for a For Your Eyes Only 40x60 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=510093&Lot_No=53148) you probably already know about this auction!

3 hours to go... get the popcorn!

 pcorn

 :o

Seems some people want what they want and nothing stands in their way.
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 19, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
I'm not judging by the way, I'm sure people would think I'm crazy for some of the stuff I've bought.  I just think it is pretty wild when something like this happens... it must be a pretty rare occurrence for two people as crazy as us to focus our obsessions on the same poster at the same time!

 ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on September 19, 2010, 09:04:09 PM
I thought I had one, but I couldn't find it on my spreadsheet.  So I went sniffing in the garage and I found it.  To my recollection, since I didn't record its entry, I spent $50 on the exact same mint For Your Eyes Only 40x60in a year ago. 

I don't know why, but seeing Heritage's auction makes me happy.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 19, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
Heritage has been getting lots of outsized results lately & I have a feeling they have a few newer buyers with less knowledge than necessary to collect and spend that much money on many different things I've been seeing

they clearly aren't interested in pre-1950 paper though
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Post by: Zorba on September 20, 2010, 07:46:16 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 19, 2010, 08:52:39 PM
I'm not judging by the way, I'm sure people would think I'm crazy for some of the stuff I've bought. 

I know what you mean. I have a nice collection of posters I have paid far too much for. Most were early on though I did lose my shit a few times this summer.
I just have never spent that much but that too could have more to do with my finances.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on September 21, 2010, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 19, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
Heritage has been getting lots of outsized results lately & I have a feeling they have a few newer buyers with less knowledge than necessary to collect and spend that much money on many different things I've been seeing

they clearly aren't interested in pre-1950 paper though

You can say that again as I got a GREAT deal Sunday night!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 14, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
I have to say the posters at Heritage's November Signature auction are *$%ing insane (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=54+792+4294953897) - by far the best auction I've ever seen.  Bride of Frankenstein teaser sheet?  Maybe because they're in LA they're getting better consignments.  Some high-profile posters I like (and can't possibly afford):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Her1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 14, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
It will be interesting to see how much THE BRIDE brings....it has been a BIN regular on Ebay now for -- I believe -- $1.25 million...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 18, 2010, 07:28:47 PM
If ever there was a case of shill bidding.... Rio Bravo WC, 19 bids @ $480 and rising (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180574322397)


Quote
AS YOU CAN SEE OTHER POSTERS OF THIS QUALITY AND ORIGINALITY ARE SELLING FOR WELL OVER $1,000.00 


An untrimmed FN/VF Rio Bravo WC just sold for for $84 15 days ago at Heritage.  What an asshole.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dr Hackenbush on October 18, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Could the auction pic been taken from farther away?  Maybe next time he shouldn't use the Hubble to do it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: brude on October 14, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
It will be interesting to see how much THE BRIDE brings....it has been a BIN regular on Ebay now for -- I believe -- $1.25 million...

Smart money will be on "reserve not met"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 19, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Smart money will be on "reserve not met"


That is what I was assuming too...

I'm am pretty excited for this auction though.  I don't think I have the funds to be bidding on anything this time around, but I'm impressed with how much un-backed paper is listed.  That is very refreshing to see...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dr Hackenbush on October 19, 2010, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Smart money will be on "reserve not met"


It's about time you showed up here
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 19, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Smart money will be on "reserve not met"


My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 19, 2010, 06:09:29 PM
only 1 post for Sean.. where the heck has he been all this time????
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Post by: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
I tried to join a long time ago, but my registration was blocked.
Looks like it is finally lifted.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 20, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
I tried to join a long time ago, but my registration was blocked.
Looks like it is finally lifted.


We just thought you were a  spam bot
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 20, 2010, 12:26:05 AM
Do Crows eat Spam?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 20, 2010, 06:09:37 AM
Had to laugh... One of Bruce's staff racked up some good overtime censoring this one.
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1979504 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1979504)

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/whitesquares.jpg)

Though the team have not seen an exposed breast in a poster in the same auction and censored it (a photograph not just an illustration). Quick, find, and censor it, before WW3...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on October 20, 2010, 09:10:29 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 20, 2010, 12:21:00 AM
We just thought you were a  spam bot

That's what my mom always says when I send her emails...
 :'(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on October 21, 2010, 06:38:05 PM
Estimate is up on the Bride of Frankenstein 1-sheet...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dr Hackenbush on October 21, 2010, 06:50:35 PM
Stating bid is 350K, which means that the bottom end of the valuation is 700K
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 21, 2010, 06:56:32 PM
I missed this sublime Beauty and the Beast 1946 French 1P (estimate $7,000).  I wish most movie posters were like that.  The opening bids on the Bond stuff I might pursue are higher than I expected (or want to pay).

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Beauty.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 21, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
I have the R51 poster which is nearly identical and much less expensive than the 46 original...  Still, even though the R51 is cheaper by comparison, that doesn't mean it is cheap.  It is stunning though.  My wife really wants to display ours, but I'm not sure we have the wall space for another that size :( 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 21, 2010, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 21, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
I have the R51 poster which is nearly identical and much less expensive than the 46 original...  Still, even though the R51 is cheaper by comparison, that doesn't mean it is cheap.  It is stunning though.  My wife really wants to display ours, but I'm not sure we have the wall space for another that size :( 


You beat me to pointing this out Harry - AND you beat me again by actually having the poster!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 21, 2010, 09:36:13 PM
Re: The Bride of Franky - Heritage states: Estimate: $700,000 - $900,000

So they expect this could set a new record and push Metropolis to #2? 

I can't see it getting that kind of $$$ right now!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 21, 2010, 09:51:27 PM
or ever.... 8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 21, 2010, 10:11:45 PM
Unemployment is 10% but the stock market is up 10% this fall. $700K is nothing for the people at the top.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 21, 2010, 10:27:27 PM
Bride of Frankenstein Teaser on artdaily.org...

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=41889 (http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=41889)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 21, 2010, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 21, 2010, 06:56:32 PM
I missed this sublime Beauty and the Beast 1946 French 1P (estimate $7,000).  I wish most movie posters were like that.  The opening bids on the Bond stuff I might pursue are higher than I expected (or want to pay).

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Beauty.jpg)

This might be the single most fantastic, wonderful, beautiful poster ever made, I believe.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 21, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
Flying Down To Rio (US OS) - sold for $239,000 in 2008 - is still my fave:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/FDTR.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 21, 2010, 11:44:42 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 21, 2010, 10:47:28 PM
This might be the single most fantastic, wonderful, beautiful poster ever made, I believe.

I agree.  And one day, it will be mine!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 12:34:43 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 21, 2010, 06:56:32 PM
I missed this sublime Beauty and the Beast 1946 French 1P (estimate $7,000).  I wish most movie posters were like that.  The opening bids on the Bond stuff I might pursue are higher than I expected (or want to pay).


beauty and the Beast is on my wantlist as I collect Jean Cocteau material. I have both styles of 1P for Orpheus, but this poster has a prohibitive price because everyone buys it, not just Cocteau fans and because I won't settle for a RR poster on the title, and I don't want to spend $4500-7000 on it, it is a hole in my collection
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Post by: eatbrie on October 22, 2010, 12:44:58 AM
Just for that, just to bug Rich, I think I'm gonna get it.  I'm going to Paris in January and I know exactly where to find one.

:)
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Post by: holiday on October 22, 2010, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 22, 2010, 12:44:58 AM
Just for that, just to bug Rich, I think I'm gonna get it.  I'm going to Paris in January and I know exactly where to find one.

:)

Can I go too?
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Post by: eatbrie on October 22, 2010, 01:05:47 AM
Can you ski?  This is where I'm going for a week: http://www.megeve.com/uk/hiver/ (http://www.megeve.com/uk/hiver/)  ;D
Then Paris  puke2
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Post by: supraman079 on October 22, 2010, 09:45:52 AM
Very nice. I love skiing. When you're in Paris are you going to be in the streets with your people or helping the police?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 22, 2010, 01:05:47 AM
Can you ski?  This is where I'm going for a week: http://www.megeve.com/uk/hiver/ (http://www.megeve.com/uk/hiver/)  ;D
Then Paris  puke2

good luck on getting the poster Thierry.. I won't be jealous..

and just for that, I'm going to place today where there are going to be 200,000 posters to look at
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Post by: Zorba on October 22, 2010, 02:54:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
I'm going to place today where there are going to be 200,000 posters to look at

I hate you ....in a non violent way  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 22, 2010, 02:54:57 PM
I hate you ....in a non violent way  8)

you can go too Zorba.. do you want directions to my warehouse??

:-)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 22, 2010, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 03:03:34 PM
you can go too Zorba.. do you want directions to my warehouse??

:-)


Not that I dont appreciate the offer but Ill have to pass...Ive seen too many movies.
 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 09:06:49 PM
oh too bad Zorba.. these girls were all stopping by tomorrow for some mud wrestling in the back of the warehouse

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/bikini-model-lineup-219.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 22, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
Rich, Ive only known you a short while but you are always breaking my heart.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 22, 2010, 09:56:19 PM
Aaaahhh, you're not missing a thing, Z. I've heard about Rich's warehouse wrestling matches....
They're more like this...

                                (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/midget_wrestling.gif)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Quote from: brude on October 22, 2010, 09:56:19 PM
Aaaahhh, you're not missing a thing, Z. I've heard about Rich's warehouse wrestling matches....
They're more like this...

                                (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/midget_wrestling.gif)



that's the Weds night wrestling.. I don't usually want something going on Weds that takes away from my auctions.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 23, 2010, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 21, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
I have the R51 poster which is nearly identical and much less expensive than the 46 original...  Still, even though the R51 is cheaper by comparison, that doesn't mean it is cheap.  It is stunning though.  My wife really wants to display ours, but I'm not sure we have the wall space for another that size :( 


Good call Harry.  Of course I'd prefer to have an original but I'm not rich so I always buy the re-release poster if it (1) is significantly less expensive than the original and (2) has identical or nearly identical artwork. 

I've saved several thousand dollars buying these re-releases:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Re-release.jpg)

The savings enabled me to buy/splurge on these expensive originals that were not re-released:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Originals.jpg)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 23, 2010, 06:57:46 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 22, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
Rich, Ive only known you a short while but you are always breaking my heart.  ;)

the best part is that you're so gullible and it makes it easy

wynk
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Post by: Zorba on October 23, 2010, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 23, 2010, 06:57:46 PM
the best part is that you're so gullible and it makes it easy

wynk

I am what I am. No more. No less.  ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 26, 2010, 10:11:01 PM
Emovie has got some awesome posters in the upcoming Halloween auction.  If anyone bids on the ones I'm after, I'm putting a voodoo curse on your @ss!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Voodoo.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 26, 2010, 10:13:23 PM
Here's one piece that has Mel's name written all over it, so the rest of you watch out!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1988865 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1988865)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 28, 2010, 11:09:51 PM
I had a question about studio vs. NSS posters.  I know most early 80s posters can usually be found rolled, but they seem to always be the studio versions.  Given that the NSS versions are harder to come by rolled, I would think they should command a higher price.  However, I rarely see them differentiated in the descriptions.  For instance, this rolled NSS Blade Runner poster (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=1990962) in Bruce's auctions doesn't make any mention of the two versions.  Cinemasterpieces also has a bunch of records of sold, rolled BRs... one is an NSS poster but it isn't differentiated as such.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/550/blade_runner_JM01345_L.jpg)


Now, I know some collectors know about these differences... T in particular owns both versions of the Back to the Future 1-sheet (studio and NSS).  I can only imagine the NSS version was harder to come by...  I guess I was just wondering why the never get differentiated by the sellers?  Do so few people care about the differences that its not worth it? 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: supraman079 on October 28, 2010, 11:36:15 PM
I don't even remember what rolled version of Blade Runner I have, but I can tell you it doesn't matter to me. I love the movie and I love my poster no matter if it has NSS or not on it. One of my favorite movies and I have the rolled one sheet of it is really all that matters to me.
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Post by: 50s on October 29, 2010, 06:13:10 AM
I messaged through ebay Jim Dietz regarding his "KING KONG,14"X22",EARLY 50'S,BELGIUM FIRST RELEASE" poster for sale:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280579698998 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280579698998)
saying it was a 1962 re-release, referencing Heritage:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555)
He replied saying "many thanks for the information, jim" but didn't change the listing.

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Post by: CJ138 on October 29, 2010, 09:00:40 AM
I was over at emovieposter browsing and I cannot stop wondering exactly how many thousands JAWS1975 has invested in Jaws posters. It is really unbelievable (and frustrating). I just watch them skyrocket out of my range.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dr Hackenbush on October 29, 2010, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: 50s on October 29, 2010, 06:13:10 AM
I messaged through ebay Jim Dietz regarding his "KING KONG,14"X22",EARLY 50'S,BELGIUM FIRST RELEASE" poster for sale:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280579698998 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280579698998)
saying it was a 1962 re-release, referencing Heritage:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555)
He replied saying "many thanks for the information, jim" but didn't change the listing.



Well, either Heritage had it wrong or it tells you a bit about the seller
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Post by: 50s on October 29, 2010, 09:27:38 AM
There can be no doubt for the seller, this is my full message...

Hi, I think this is a 1962 release:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28555)
Identified by the blue square shape in bottom right
As opposed to the 1950's release:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7025&Lot_No=83730 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7025&Lot_No=83730)
with the blue triangle shape
Steve
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 29, 2010, 09:33:16 AM
Well, in Jim's defense post-war Belgians are notoriously hard to date.  If Heritage was the only source I may be inclined to doubt it is well... however in this case it appears eMovieposter agrees:

http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/266955.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/266955.html)

I for one would appreciate it if someone could please explain how to differentiate a For a Few Dollars More original release Belgian from the later reprint.  eMovie and HA have both sold a few and I can't for the life of me discern any consistent difference what so ever! I one of them on eMovie had different fine print text but is listed as R70s like the others...

HA 1967 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=57063&Lot_No=25104)
HA 1967 2 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=57112&Lot_No=26147)
HA R1970s (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=55082&Lot_No=23029)

eMovie R1970s (http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/267154.html)
eMovie R1970s 2 (http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/331815.html)
eMovie 1970s 3 (http://www.emovieposter.com/imagearchive/poster/73411.html)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2010, 04:30:24 PM
that Kong poster, which I also have, has always been i'ded as a 1950s poster.I believe Heritage has it wrong
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Post by: 50s on October 29, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Thanks Harry. So emovieposter and Heritage both state it is a 60's version. Rich, one of my links shows a 50's re-release version maybe you are thinking of, but that is not the one Jim has up for auction, Jims one looks looks like a 2nd re-release due to the different blue logo bottom right corner.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2010, 05:28:39 PM
unfortunately I don't know what drawer mine is in so I can't find it easily
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Post by: 50s on October 29, 2010, 08:23:44 PM
Possible unreported restoration (or damage) of poster in current Heritage Nov auction. Pink above 'IT'?:

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7029&Lot_No=83114 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7029&Lot_No=83114)
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/it1_h_700.jpg)

A previous completed Heritage auction item:
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28048 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=667&Lot_No=28048)
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/it2_hsold_700.jpg)

Poster on Cinemasterpieces:
http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/aapics09/itjul09.jpg (http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/aapics09/itjul09.jpg)
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/it3_dl_700.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 29, 2010, 08:23:44 PM
Possible unreported restoration (or damage) of poster in current Heritage Nov auction. Pink above 'IT'

not trying to stir the pot here.. I just have an honest question Steve.

rather than post a message which indicates that Heritage has made a mistake of this nature, impuning their reputation in some way (either you're saying they aren't professional, aren't paying attention or are intentionally misrepresenting something), wouldn't it make sense to first email Grey Smith or Bruce Carteron for clarification??

to the point of your post: it doesn't look restored to me and could easily be a print imperfection.
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Post by: brude on October 29, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
Looks to me like all three pics display different color saturation.
See the range of yellows in "IT?"
Doesn't look restored to me, just variance in the digital pics.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2010, 10:13:56 PM
This is a poster that had two known print runs at least. As I described one of them:

"Note that there are two different variations of this poster. One of them has the "3-D" at top left colored in yellow, and also all of the letters of the title. The other is exactly the same as that poster, but the yellow is missing from the letters (and perhaps from the entire poster). Otherwise, the posters are exactly the same, including the NSS information at bottom. My personal belief is that there were two different print runs of this poster, and that one print run did not use the yellow, for unknown reasons (perhaps the answer could be as simple as them running out of yellow ink!)."

So this could be yet a third variation. Of course, in the case of restored posters, the more likely answer is restoration in that area. This could best be resolved if someone produced a "before" image of the poster, but the chances of that are slim to none.

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2010, 10:46:38 PM
Bruce.. my vote is a printing imperfection
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Post by: 50s on October 30, 2010, 01:55:36 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
not trying to stir the pot here.. I just have an honest question Steve.

rather than post a message which indicates that Heritage has made a mistake of this nature, impuning their reputation in some way (either you're saying they aren't professional, aren't paying attention or are intentionally misrepresenting something), wouldn't it make sense to first email Grey Smith or Bruce Carteron for clarification??

to the point of your post: it doesn't look restored to me and could easily be a print imperfection.


Hi Rich,

About about 3 years ago I bought a poster from a Heritage quarterly major auction for $4000. The lot described as - Near Mint
except for a few pin holes. Once I received it, I took it straight to my restorer friend, as I do all my better poster acquisitions to kind of show them off and also for him to look over them. He spotted a hand sized area of restoration, completely repainted. Grey offered to take a look at it, though being in Australia and sending a linen backed 6 sheet back to the US for a look I thought was not worth the effort for no guarenteed results and possible more costs for me in having it returned to Australia (hundreds of dollars). I was already fuming over the telephone bidding I did for the poster. Even if Heritage took it back and gave a full refund, I would still be extremely annoyed that I was taken down the path from excitement to dissapointment and wasted time and hassle in between, because of a inaccurate initial condition inspection. So, for me, the point of this is, my confidence is dented with Heritage that they can spot damaged goods when they have the poster in front of them.

When I now look at Heritage posters I am interested in, I look extremely closely doing all the checks I can, crawling over the images.

I see no issue with asking opinion here before checking with Heritage. The auction is now live, they have done their assessments, their auctions are now open for public discussion. It could well be a perfectly fine poster. They are the professionals, I am not. If you guys think it is a faulty, then I am happy to let Heritage know. 

There is vertical dark banding in that section of the poster, something doesn't look right.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:37:44 AM
Steve.. I can appreciate the ire, re: the 6sheet issue. However, for one thing, when someone tells me "near mint ON LINEN".. that makes me pause personally as I think being on linen is a defect to begin with, presuming the poster was previously in nm condition. I would have returned it myself, and had Heritage pay 2-way freight costs, and moved on. Every last deal can't be perfect, though you can do your best as a seller or buyer to try to make it so.

I do not usually record specific defects when I create listings (not possible with just myself & my secretary). But I do provide a great pic that helps buyers as I don't want to have to take returns if I can't help it. It would mean I wasted some time involved, and I have precious little time to waste.

Grey Smith is a great guy and I think he does the best job he can, but lots of work is farmed out to other employees of Heritage and help or no, we all make some mistakes. Bruce makes some too, but he asks for help when he makes a mistake so he can correct it. That's what is required.

Once in a while, I'll buy a pair of shoes or a kitchen item like a toaster oven - and I'm not happy with it. So I go back to the store & return it. It wasted some of my time yes. But what I can do is my best to make sure I have to do something like that as rarely as possible, so it only becomes an occasional inconvenience. You can't please everyone all of the time, but if you can 95 times out of 100 (or 99 times out of 100), you're doing pretty well.

I would like to think if I made a mistake, like missing a grade, or a piece of tape or a re-issue date, that someone would be kind enough to tell me so I can correct it - rather than embarrass me in public. I think it's the courteous thing to do.

Concerning the poster. If Grey or Bruce personally graded the poster and did not notice the defect, well, that's a boner. If one of their untalented helpers made the mistake. It's still a boner for Grey or Bruce (meaning Carteron). But it isn't a life altering issue. If they refused to deal with it - that IS a life altering issue. I recently won a poster from Bruce. After the auction, I realized his description had a defect (re-issue noted as original release). Fortunately, we unwound it prior to my even paying for it, it was no problem, he resold the poster and it went for the right price, and I did not bid that time. I did waste time waiting for the auction that day & spending time bidding and then spending time locating information. It was no big deal to me. But I'm a very pragmatic individual

everyone does not share my pragmatism, or my patience (with everything but assholes)

we do not live in a perfect world.. if we did.. Brude would be a Democrat
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:39:14 AM
by the way.. the poster is noted as NM on linen right?
Is there a fold in the spot you think is iffy??
if the area was restored, don't you think they'd have Jaime do a better job than that??

I still think it's a printing imperfection
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Post by: 50s on October 30, 2010, 06:44:40 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:37:44 AM
I would like to think if I made a mistake, like missing a grade, or a piece of tape or a re-issue date, that someone would be kind enough to tell me so I can correct it - rather than embarrass me in public. I think it's the courteous thing to do.

You know Rich from a post I made yesterday, just a few days earlier I let Jim Dietz know of a likely error in his auction so he could investigate and correct it first. This was indeed being courteous.

I don't know if this Heritage item is a 'mistake', that is why I am asking you guys for your opinion. No one here appears to be saying it is damaged. To me it looks odd, so I asked. That is what is good about a forum - being provided other opinions. Maybe I should have worded my original post differently, something like 'Does this look normal?'... I dunno, bah...

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Post by: Harry Caul on October 30, 2010, 08:43:04 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:39:14 AM
by the way.. the poster is noted as NM on linen right?
Is there a fold in the spot you think is iffy??
if the area was restored, don't you think they'd have Jaime do a better job than that??

I still think it's a printing imperfection

I think HA stopped using NM or M ratings on linen backed posters. The poster in question is graded VF+... Which is the highest grade an backed poster can get. However, I'm not sure if backed posters with this grade (VF+) encompasses both NM posters put to linen with no restoration and/or true VF+ posters put to linen with minor restoration....

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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
One thing is for sure, not all condition grades are the same!

I'll stack my "very good" against many other people's "very fine" any day.

 sm1 sm1 sm1

Bruce
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Post by: brude on October 30, 2010, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:37:44 AM
we do not live in a perfect world.. if we did.. Brude would be a Democrat

Huh?
We surround you.
Tidal wave Tuesday is a-comin'....  woohoo
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 30, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
Commenting on media's coverage of Michelle Obama:

"She's got to [prove her patriotism]! She's a Democrat. She must prove she loves America, as opposed to Republicans who everyone knooows love America. They just hate half the people living in it."

- Jon Stewart
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:38:06 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 30, 2010, 06:44:40 AM
You know Rich from a post I made yesterday, just a few days earlier I let Jim Dietz know of a likely error in his auction so he could investigate and correct it first. This was indeed being courteous.
I don't know if this Heritage item is a 'mistake', that is why I am asking you guys for your opinion. No one here appears to be saying it is damaged. To me it looks odd, so I asked. That is what is good about a forum - being provided other opinions. Maybe I should have worded my original post differently, something like 'Does this look normal?'... I dunno, bah...

yes Steve.. it's all in the wording.. "Possible unreported restoration" has an unseemly aspect to it, whereas "does this look like...." is far more magnanimous

also,I let Jim Dietz know of a likely error what you mean is "possible error". there is a difference
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:41:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 30, 2010, 09:06:28 AM
One thing is for sure, not all condition grades are the same!
I'll stack my "very good" against many other people's "very fine" any day.
Bruce

usually true Bruce.. your grading is pretty tight, in the upper grades for certain, though sometimes I get a poster from you in a lower grade that I may not agree with, or not expecting as much tape on the back as it sounds like.
Heritage definitely can be all over the place on grading, which obviously says different people are doing the grading and teaching people how to grade is one of the big problems in hobbying.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: brude on October 30, 2010, 11:32:26 AM
Huh?
We surround you.
Tidal wave Tuesday is a-comin'

LOL.. I wonder what's in the water in NY state.. I hear that phrase from New Yorkers, which says it's being used up there.

Seriously though Brude.. do you really think Carl Palladino will be good for NY? or O'Donnell would be good for Delaware? I know that Sharon Angle would be a disaster for Nevada.. All three of them are completely nuts. Rand Paul too.. Nuts
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Post by: brude on October 30, 2010, 02:53:15 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 02:43:58 PM
LOL.. I wonder what's in the water in NY state.. I hear that phrase from New Yorkers, which says it's being used up there.

Seriously though Brude.. do you really think Carl Palladino will be good for NY? or O'Donnell would be good for Delaware? I know that Sharon Angle would be a disaster for Nevada.. All three of them are completely nuts. Rand Paul too.. Nuts

C'mon Rich. Typical libs resort to name calling when they're losing.  I don't think you're typical.
Nevada leads in unemployment, bankruptcy and foreclosures...
I think Harry Reid and his tampered touch screen voting machines are destined for Yucca Flats...  spew

And we should take this to Let it Out...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: brude on October 30, 2010, 02:53:15 PM
And we should take this to Let it Out...

head over
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2010, 12:19:34 AM
The auctioneers continue to miss this video sheet - I reported it and it will disappear - AGAIN!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/International.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on November 01, 2010, 02:55:23 AM
You are very quick Mel, reviewing just 12 minutes into the start of the new weekly auction. That is keen!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 01, 2010, 04:06:51 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 01, 2010, 02:55:23 AM
You are very quick Mel, reviewing just 12 minutes into the start of the new weekly auction. That is keen!

no kidding Steve.. obviously he was spending more money online as soon as he got back from NYC after spending other money. Anyone who spends as much money as he is must live with his parents.

 wynk
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Post by: Bruce on November 01, 2010, 07:36:34 AM
I just don't get the repeating "mistakes". In our auctions whenever someone notifies us of an error, we not only fix or end the auction, we ALSO make a note of exactly what was done wrong in our database, and then that note pops up the next time we list that poster, and if the describer has any competence, they don't make the error again.

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2010, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 01, 2010, 04:06:51 AM
Anyone who spends as much money as he is must live with his parents.


I wish - the parental support well ran dry half a lifetime ago when I graduated from college! (Damn I'm getting old!)

I did spend a good bit last week but I'm sure I could at least double my money if I consigned everything I bought, most of which is ridiculously rare.  A (presumably) original Pulp Fiction withdrawn OS for $750?  The last one sold at Heritage in 2007 for $1550 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=665&Lot_No=28076).   Nowadays, no dealer is willing to part with it for less than $1500.  Also, I got two unreleased Grindhouse one sheets for $30 each.  No way I could lose money on those.  
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Post by: brude on November 01, 2010, 10:24:59 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2010, 10:02:57 AM
I did spend a good bit last week but I'm sure I could at least double my money if I consigned everything I bought, most of which is ridiculously rare.  A (presumably) original Pulp Fiction withdrawn OS for $750?  Also, I got two unreleased Grindhouse one sheets for $30 each.  No way I could lose money on those.  

$810?  See, I was shooting low at $450-600...  wynk
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Post by: Louie D. on November 01, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 01, 2010, 07:36:34 AM
I just don't get the repeating "mistakes". In our auctions whenever someone notifies us of an error, we not only fix or end the auction, we ALSO make a note of exactly what was done wrong in our database, and then that note pops up the next time we list that poster, and if the describer has any competence, they don't make the error again.

Bruce

Would you do that for a description of an actor also?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2010, 01:42:00 PM
Question for the field:

Are the combined auctions being held during the next weeks the greatest ever auctions during a two week period?  They are certainly the best I've seen for such a period.

The signature auctions (Frankenstein, King Kong) at Heritage are insane and the Halloween auctions at Emovie (great horror stuff on Tuesday, ET & Star Wars printers proofs on Thursday) are extraordinary too.

(Un?)fortunately, I'm mostly tapped out and a couple of must-have items have popped up on regular auctions, so I'll mostly be out of the fight in both, not that I really could have contended for the top pieces.
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 01, 2010, 03:54:48 PM
Try to find a catalog for the 1997 Christie's auction (The Sheik on the cover)... I believe Bruce conducted that one. 

A few horror highlights:
Frankenstein Teaser (monster is loose!)
King Kong Lobby set
Bride of Franky jumbo window
Son of Franky 6-sheet
Franky meets Wolfman 1
The Wolfman 1
Frankenstein R47 1
Son of Dracula 1
House of Dracula 1
Mummy's Tomb 1
Mummy's Ghost 1
etc...

Tons of early cinema:
The General 3-sheet
Dog's Life 6-sheet
The Tramp 3-sheet
Gold Rush 6-sheet
The Kid 3-sheet
City Lights 3-sheet
Modern Times 6-sheet
Safety Last 6-sheet
2 different Birth of a Nation 1 sheets
3 different The Sheik 1 sheets
Fairbanks Robin Hood 1 and Thief of Baghdad 1
Oregon Trail 1
I'm a Fugitive from the Chain Gang 6-sheet
All Quiet on the Western Front 3-sheet
and TONS more...


In the last few pages are 'small auctions' (probably equivalent to day-3 internet only auctions at HA today!):
All About Eve Door Panel set
Godzilla 3-sheet
Creature from Black Lagoon
Day the Earth Stood Still
Forbidden Planet
and on and on and on...


I'm sure there are other big auctions we internet-age folks can only dream of...
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Post by: CJ138 on November 01, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
For just 1.9 mil you could own "the greatest movie poster collection available anywhere"

http://cgi.ebay.com/GREATEST-MOVIE-POSTER-COLLECTION-AVAILABLE-ANYWHERE-/390248691505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adca27731

Hey Bruce, what do you think ebay's take home on this auction would be?
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 01, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on November 01, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
For just 1.9 mil you could own "the greatest movie poster collection available anywhere"

http://cgi.ebay.com/GREATEST-MOVIE-POSTER-COLLECTION-AVAILABLE-ANYWHERE-/390248691505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adca27731

Hey Bruce, what do you think ebay's take home on this auction would be?

"0" because it won't sell.  Let's see, six 24sh and a standee for 1.9M.  To make the math easier for me, that would be 300K per 24sh & 100K for the standee.  Sounds reasonable  laugh1 
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Post by: CJ138 on November 01, 2010, 05:22:14 PM
Quote from: Dr Hackenbush on November 01, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
"0" because it won't sell.  Let's see, six 24sh and a standee for 1.9M.  To make the math easier for me, that would be 300K per 24sh & 100K for the standee.  Sounds reasonable  laugh1 

So, I should'nt refinance my house for a poster?  ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 02, 2010, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2010, 10:02:57 AM
Also, I got two unreleased Grindhouse one sheets for $30 each.  

Unfortunately, I've been informed they overnight increased the price to $150 each. They had several copies of each.  It's possible - and perhaps probable - that someone on this board contacted them and advised that the price was too low.  Very disappointing that we cannot have an open and collaborative discussion about prices and poster sources on this board due to certain members.  That's the last time I'll be open and collaborative. Also I could have bought all of them and resold them but I didn't want to be greedy.
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 02, 2010, 09:40:13 AM
Or when you found them in the price book they realized their error. They sold to you anyway at charity prices so as not to jeapordize a relationship with a new customer, but then changed them afterwards.

Just an alternate speculative story... everything isn't always a conspiracy :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 02, 2010, 10:41:53 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 02, 2010, 09:40:13 AM
Or when you found them in the price book they realized their error. They sold to you anyway at charity prices so as not to jeapordize a relationship with a new customer, but then changed them afterwards.

Just an alternate speculative story... everything isn't always a conspiracy :)

They encouraged me to buy extras for trading.  Either way I should have kept my mouth shut!

Course I haven't blabbed about all the hidden gems they have.  That's my secret....
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Post by: tstatum on November 02, 2010, 12:13:06 PM

Or it could be probable or possible that as a poster dealer they browse the boards on occasion



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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 02, 2010, 01:38:01 PM
Anyway, I wouldn't pay huge money for those Grindhouse posters.  They occasionally pop up on Ebay and go for $40-$50.  Brude got one of them a couple of months ago.
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Post by: Ari on November 02, 2010, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 02, 2010, 09:26:01 AM
Unfortunately, I've been informed they overnight increased the price to $150 each. They had several copies of each.  It's possible - and perhaps probable - that someone on this board contacted them and advised that the price was too low.  Very disappointing that we cannot have an open and collaborative discussion about prices and poster sources on this board due to certain members.  That's the last time I'll be open and collaborative. Also I could have bought all of them and resold them but I didn't want to be greedy.

I dont understand this post. Sorry if I am slow.
Your upset that you got a bargain, then after the fact, the seller somehow found out and raised their price?
And that it probably came about due to this forum?

Not only sounds paranoid, but also like its another US and THEM post, where its good for the buyer to get a bargain, and the dealer shouldn't try and sell for full value, (Damn Greedy Dealers).
I have no idea what this poster is worth, personally I wouldn't pay $10 - but then I am not a fan.
But a dealer should be able to ask whatever price they want, this isn't Air or water, just pretty bits of paper, buy if you like it, can afford it, and feel its fair, Don't if you don't, the sun rises again regardless.

re the forum to blame. Its a great forum, and no offence (I run one also) but all the Movie poster forums combined, don't cover most of the people buying posters, if that was true, we would have thousands posting here, and elsewhere - or there would only be a handful of buyers.

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Post by: ddilts399 on November 03, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
And which Grindhouse are we talking about the time difference one or the red style with McGowen taking center stage?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 04, 2010, 01:51:07 PM
Anybody who tries to bid tonight on the poster(s) I'm bidding on is in for a world of pain!

(http://oi35.tinypic.com/28kmu8l.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 07, 2010, 10:07:37 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 19, 2010, 03:34:26 PM
Quote from: brude on October 14, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
It will be interesting to see how much THE BRIDE brings....it has been a BIN regular on Ebay now for -- I believe -- $1.25 million...
Smart money will be on "reserve not met"


No shit.  $600K and counting... whether or not it hits the reserve, it is already higher than I thought it would go!


By the way, that $117K Buyer's Premium has to be a tough pill to swallow!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2010, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 07, 2010, 10:07:37 PM
Smart money will be on "reserve not met"
No shit.  $600K and counting... whether or not it hits the reserve, it is already higher than I thought it would go!
By the way, that $117K Buyer's Premium has to be a tough pill to swallow!

I believe that the reserve has been met and it isn't $117k premium if you do your math right
it's $717,000 bid

by the way.. I think current bid is the highest price ever paid publicly for a poster and while it isn't the hisghest price offered for a poster, I don't believe anything has sold for more
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Post by: Bruce on November 07, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
Rich

Yesterday it was $575,000 with NO RESERVE next to it.

Today it is $600,000 with "Reserve not met" under it.

Sounds like someone had a change of heart since yesterday.

And it does say the BP is $117,000. So if it sells, it is the new world record for a movie poster. And if it doesn't sell, it will still be the world record highest price for a poster that didn't sell.

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on November 07, 2010, 10:40:50 PM
I wonder if Heritage is putting some pressure on Todd to let it sell? (they probably have an interest of $150,000 or more with BP and their other fees at stake in the poster!)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 07, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
Rich

Yesterday it was $575,000 with NO RESERVE next to it.

Today it is $600,000 with "Reserve not met" under it.

Sounds like someone had a change of heart since yesterday.

And it does say the BP is $117,000. So if it sells, it is the new world record for a movie poster. And if it doesn't sell, it will still be the world record highest price for a poster that didn't sell.

Bruce

that must be aggravating to bidders
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 09, 2010, 10:45:31 PM
Anybody ever bought a 24 sheet? 242" x 104" - freaking ginormous....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Italian-1.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on November 10, 2010, 02:06:23 PM
Seriously what could anyone do with a 24 sheet?  It would have to stay permanently stored away...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 08:30:55 AM
The reserve on Frankenstein is $600,000.   Will it make it?  Where are all the crazy Japanese spenders from yesteryear (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/business/worldbusiness/06iht-rtrfeature.9035419.html) when you need them?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Frank-1.jpg)


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Post by: paul waines on November 11, 2010, 11:47:06 AM
This guy has tried selling this and a few other Uni-Horror posters several times. It was up for( in the voice of Dr Evil ) $1,000,000, at one point. Why not put them in Christies, or let Bruce sell them if you want rid. Or just send them to me, I'll find space for them ;D
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Post by: CSM on November 11, 2010, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 11, 2010, 11:47:06 AM
This guy has tried selling this and a few other Uni-Horror posters several times. It was up for( in the voice of Dr Evil ) $1,000,000, at one point. Why not put them in Christies, or let Bruce sell them if you want rid. Or just send them to me, I'll find space for them ;D

What I wonder Paul is if he really has any intention of selling it or the other posters that have been listed on eBay.  I really think it could be part of a marketing partnership between the consignor and Heritage to advertisement this "major auction".  Doesn't it look great and draw everyone's attention to the other posters on auction with the Bride splashed all over the auction catalogue and auction handouts?  Not to mention the byline "Will it set the world record price for a poster sale???"... 
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Post by: paul waines on November 11, 2010, 01:13:05 PM
I didn't know about the Heritage sale, I give up looking at that site quite a while ago for one reason or another. Perhaps I should keep my finger on the pulse a bit more.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 11, 2010, 12:59:40 PM
What I wonder Paul is if he really has any intention of selling it or the other posters that have been listed on eBay.  I really think it could be part of a marketing partnership between the consignor and Heritage to advertisement this "major auction".  Doesn't it look great and draw everyone's attention to the other posters on auction with the Bride splashed all over the auction catalogue and auction handouts?  Not to mention the byline "Will it set the world record price for a poster sale???"... 

Come on, Chris. A "marketing partnership" to keep posters on Ebay for years and then put them up on Heritage?  Maybe Big Foot is living in Rock Creek Park behind my apartment too.

He's probably just like most sellers, e.g. Cinemasterpieces, etc.  Stick it up for a high "buy it now" price and hope somebody buys it.  If it doesn't sell, put it up for auction.

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Post by: CSM on November 11, 2010, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Come on, Chris. A "marketing partnership" to keep posters on Ebay for years and then put them up on Heritage?  Maybe Big Foot is living in Rock Creek Park behind my apartment too.

He's probably just like most sellers, e.g. Cinemasterpieces, etc.  Stick it up for a high "buy it now" price and hope somebody buys it.  If it doesn't sell, put it up for auction.



You misunderstood Mel.  I was not implying there was a marketing partnership in placing the posters on eBay - eBay really was nothing to do with it other then when the seller/consignor wanted to advertise all his great posters himself.

I was questioning a partnership between Heritage and the consignor (Todd) in placing the Bride in this auction.  I am not saying there actually is one, just raising the issue.  Why does this particular consignor's poster get splashed about everywhere and not someone else's?  Of course it's a rare poster, likely the only one still extant - BUT I am wagering that Todd gets a special deal on all the consignment fees etc (these are always negotiable) to place the Bride in the auction.

This discussion really comes out of the changing reserve price as noted before.  Theoretically the reserve could continue to increase until the final second of the auction thereby suggesting no actual intent to sell the poster and making it a marketing ploy :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 02:11:17 PM
The next bid is $717,000 (with buyer's fee) so the reserve is clearly $717,000.  All the final reserves for all the posters have been posted.  Heritage estimates it will go for $700-$900, so there seems to be no doubt they will take that price for it. (Which would be a record right?)

They've auctioned other stuff from Fiertag and there's no apparent reason there's anything improper at all about their "relationship." If this sells, it will get Heritage big press, so they probably did cut him a deal on this.


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Post by: CSM on November 11, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 02:11:17 PM
The reserve is clearly $717,000 (with buyer's fee).  All the final reserves for all the posters have been posted.  

I am fairly confident there are no "final reserve prices" in any Heritage auction.  I don't have their fine print policy in front of me, but I do recall an earlier discussion about this in which it was stated the reserve can change at any time and is not "locked in".
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 11, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
I am fairly confident there are no "final reserve prices" in any Heritage auction.  I don't have their fine print policy in front of me, but I do recall an earlier discussion about this in which it was stated the reserve can change at any time and is not "locked in".

Read the * text: "*Reserve Not Met. A reserve has been posted on this lot, but no bids have met the reserve. The next bid will meet the reserve."  That contractually binds them to accept the next bid which is clearly stated:

Minimum Next Bid: $600,000 ($717,000.00 w/BP)
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 11, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Just like every auction house, HA wanted a marquee piece to attract attention.  They get the BoF teaser and, I would figure, TF got the seller's premium waived and would get a percentage of the BP.  That's usually how HA does things when a cosignor gives them hundred of thousands of dollars worth of material (whether it be one piece or 10,000)
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Post by: CSM on November 11, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
Read the * text: "*Reserve Not Met. A reserve has been posted on this lot, but no bids have met the reserve. The next bid will meet the reserve."  That contractually binds them to accept the next bid which is clearly stated:

Minimum Next Bid: $600,000 ($717,000.00 w/BP)

I do believe you are correct Mel.  I have been trying to find the post I was referring to (I believe it was on MoPo) without success and I have read through all the fine print I could find on HA.com.   I can find nothing to support my earlier statement.   In fact Grey stated on MoPo:  

"Concerning reserves or opening bids on Heritage’s website and auction,there is no mystery. The reason reserves are not posted until 7 days before the auction is that we don’t know that all reserves are in from our consignors until that time. Contractually the consignor has until 10 days before the live auction to enter a reserve, though they cannot enter one above the low estimate printed in the catalog or online. In far more instances we will remove or lower a reserve in our Signature auction than raise or even enter a reserve at all in the movie poster auctions"

and

"Whenever a reserve is posted on any lot, Heritage, by design, increases the current bid to the increment immediately below the reserve. This takes place usually 7 days before the end of the auction for Signature Auctions"


But then I ask:  is it still trully a reserve auction when consignors are allowed to bid on their own items (so long as they pay the appropriate buyer's premium)?  ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 12, 2010, 04:15:34 PM
Frankenstein did not make the minimum....
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Post by: Louie D. on November 12, 2010, 04:29:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 12, 2010, 04:15:34 PM
Frankenstein did not make the minimum....

Wow, imagine that  eyeroll
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Post by: CSM on November 12, 2010, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 12, 2010, 04:15:34 PM
Frankenstein did not make the minimum....

I think many doubted it ever would.  I wonder what the REAL top bid was (i.e. before Heritage bumped it up to just below the reserve as per their policy)?
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 12, 2010, 04:39:28 PM
I thought the real top bid was $575K... If so, what kind of cheapskate wouldn't pony up the last $25K to get it!  ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 12, 2010, 04:55:17 PM
I was half following the auction and seemed like many posters were coming in very low.
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Post by: CSM on November 12, 2010, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 12, 2010, 04:39:28 PM
I thought the real top bid was $575K... If so, what kind of cheapskate wouldn't pony up the last $25K to get it!  ;D

You might be right Harry.  Heritage states their bid increments are $50,000 from $500,000-$999,999 - so if they bumped it so the next bid would make the reserve that would have placed it at $550,000. 

So is who on the forum is going to make an offer or use the buy it now at $717,000 with BP?  ;)

Mel, trade in those Bond posters and your chances of ever finding a wife and get busy!
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 12, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 12, 2010, 04:55:17 PM
I was half following the auction and seemed like many posters were coming in very low.

I for one am quite happy about that as I won something today!  Not sure if I'm going to spill the beans just yet... I think it needs to be on the wall first for full effect.  Stay tuned... it will be a few weeks/months.
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Post by: CSM on November 12, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 12, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
I Stay tuned... it will be a few weeks/months.

That is far too long for the information-age, instant news-spoiled internet generation to wait!  


PS (It has just better NOT be another Bogart!)   :-X
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Post by: kovacs01 on November 12, 2010, 05:27:20 PM
Alien advance???
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 12, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 12, 2010, 05:00:13 PM
You might be right Harry.  Heritage states their bid increments are $50,000 from $500,000-$999,999 - so if they bumped it so the next bid would make the reserve that would have placed it at $550,000. 

So is who on the forum is going to make an offer or use the buy it now at $717,000 with BP?  ;)

Mel, trade in those Bond posters and your chances of ever finding a wife and get busy!

I'm already in discussion to buy it on time payments. I'm trying to see if I can pay $500 a month with no interest. The sticking point is that I want the poster to be on my wall after I make the first payment so I know what I'm paying for
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 12, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 12, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
That is far too long for the information-age, instant news-spoiled internet generation to wait!  


PS (It has just better NOT be another Bogart!)   :-X

Patience is a virtue or some such bullshit. Don't worry, this one is going up soon... I'm already making calls about framing...

And no, it's not a Bogie and it's not an Alien Adv.
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Post by: CSM on November 12, 2010, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 12, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
I'm already in discussion to buy it on time payments. I'm trying to see if I can pay $500 a month with no interest. The sticking point is that I want the poster to be on my wall after I make the first payment so I know what I'm paying for

But are you paying with the same virtual $$$ offered on NSFGE?   ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 12, 2010, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 12, 2010, 07:13:31 PM
But are you paying with the same virtual $$$ offered on NSFGE?   ;)

no sir, I'm offering real American cash, although it's debatable which currency is more stable
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Post by: brude on November 13, 2010, 08:11:56 AM
I am stunned that a rich Hollywood filmmaker didn't buy this....if I was a multi-millionaire, it would be hanging on my wall right about now...

(http://www.alanvalek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/horror9.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on November 13, 2010, 08:40:28 AM
"I thought the real top bid was $575K... If so, what kind of cheapskate wouldn't pony up the last $25K to get it!"

If there had been a real bidder at anywhere near that amount, they never would have let him get away. This was a no bid auction with a hope and a prayer that some eccentric billionaire would take a great liking to this poster. Didn't happen.

Bruce
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Post by: Bruce on November 13, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
"I was half following the auction and seemed like many posters were coming in very low."

This is indicative of an auction with reserves set at a retail price. The ones that sell have a single bidder who pays the seller's reserve (i.e. his asking price). It was more of a retail offering of expensive posters than an auction (in auctions, two or more bidders determine the final price by bidding against each other).

Bruce
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Post by: holiday on November 13, 2010, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 13, 2010, 08:43:24 AM
"I was half following the auction and seemed like many posters were coming in very low."

This is indicative of an auction with reserves set at a retail price. The ones that sell have a single bidder who pays the seller's reserve (i.e. his asking price). It was more of a retail offering of expensive posters than an auction (in auctions, two or more bidders determine the final price by bidding against each other).

Bruce
I haven't bought from Heritage for a long time now.  The last run-in I had, their customer service person was so offensive and condescending that I couldn't get over it.  I think that encounter was a push in the right direction, though, away from things like this, Bruce, though I didn't often buy at the signature auctions.  I haven't missed it.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 13, 2010, 09:43:32 AM
This is what happens when you and/or the consignor price items too high:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/epic-fail-short-shorts-fail.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/-2.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 13, 2010, 12:45:26 PM
Anybody going into battle for the third session at 1pm EST?  They go by so fast - gotta be quick on the draw.
Title: Re: oceans 11 insert $10,755.00
Post by: CineMasterpieces on November 13, 2010, 01:58:15 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7029&Lot_No=83525&Lot_Id_No=80003 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7029&Lot_No=83525&Lot_Id_No=80003)

Makes me feel like a chump for selling the few that I had for $3500 to $4000 each.

These generally auction for under $2000.

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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:01:35 PM
$11,000 for an Ocean's 11 insert?!  mesmrized
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Post by: stewart boyle on November 13, 2010, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: brude on November 13, 2010, 08:11:56 AM
I am stunned that a rich Hollywood filmmaker didn't buy this....if I was a multi-millionaire, it would be hanging on my wall right about now...

(http://www.alanvalek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/horror9.jpg)
I would be interested to know,if the high price tag for this poster is in regards to rareity,or does it have something to do with the subject matter as far as casting is concerned?
The poster for me seems to be asking the question who could possibly be Frankensteins bride??
If the intent was to stir up anticipation for the sequel it scores ten out of ten.

Stew
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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:37:49 PM
Well Stew it is clever because there are actually two "brides" in Bride of Frankenstein.

The value (perceived value is more accurate) is based on rarity (only known copy), subject matter and aesthetics.   
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Post by: stewart boyle on November 13, 2010, 02:45:00 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:37:49 PM
Well Stew it is clever because there are actually two "brides" in Bride of Frankenstein.

The value (perceived value is more accurate) is based on rarity (only known copy), subject matter and aesthetics.   

I think i will be dragging out the DVD to watch this classic more closely... ;)

Stew
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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on November 13, 2010, 02:45:00 PM
I think i will be dragging out the DVD to watch this classic more closely... ;)

Stew


Good idea Stew!  Thesiger really steals the film - he's just fantastic...but alas he has no bride ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 13, 2010, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
Good idea Stew!  Thesiger really steals the film - he's just fantastic...but alas he has no bride ;)

lol.. he doesn't want one  wynk
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 13, 2010, 07:30:26 PM
Really, did they ever think they were going to come close to $717K?  Not based on past prices - these are the most expensive posters sold at H:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Heritage-2.jpg)
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 13, 2010, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 13, 2010, 07:30:26 PM
Really, did they ever think they were going to come close to $717K?

No, but that wasn't up to them to decide.  The highest price paid (publicly) for a poster is still THE MUMMY 1sh that sold for $453,500 in '97.  If not for the reserve, the BoF teaser would've arguably broken that record.  I don't think there's any poster that would sell for 700K, but I could be wrong.  It's easy to say "this" or "that" poster should sell for that much, but until they do it's all speculation
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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2010, 11:09:59 PM
The only poster that might actually get over $700,000+ at this time is Metropolis (as others have said).
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Post by: crowzilla on November 14, 2010, 03:53:00 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2010, 11:09:59 PM
The only poster that might actually get over $700,000+ at this time is Metropolis (as others have said).

There are at least two posters i am aware of that offers over $700,000 have been made on (but the current owner declined), there was also another private sale this year that would best any of the Heritage prices, but it was still not in the range that Todd was seeking for his Bride poster.
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Post by: paul waines on November 14, 2010, 03:58:46 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
Good idea Stew!  Thesiger really steals the film - he's just fantastic...but alas he has no bride ;)

No he doesn't, but he revelled in dressing her, and doing her hair and make-up!!  ;)
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Post by: brude on November 14, 2010, 08:08:58 AM
If METROPOLIS sold for $690k, I am still surprised that Todd's BRIDE didn't set a new record.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4438948.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4438948.stm)
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Post by: CSM on November 14, 2010, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 14, 2010, 03:53:00 AM
There are at least two posters i am aware of that offers over $700,000 have been made on (but the current owner declined), there was also another private sale this year that would best any of the Heritage prices, but it was still not in the range that Todd was seeking for his Bride poster.


Can you state which posters they are?  Or will that give away the owner?
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 14, 2010, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: brude on November 14, 2010, 08:08:58 AM
If METROPOLIS sold for $690k, I am still surprised that Todd's BRIDE didn't set a new record.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4438948.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4438948.stm)

I stand corrected
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Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2010, 02:44:21 PM
Always take those "I turned down a million" stories with a big grain of salt. It is funny how often those kind of buyers completely evaporate when they have the same opportunity to buy those items at an auction that requires cash payments.

It is an old trick to constantly say "I could have sold this for X" (some skyhigh number) so that when that item is actually offered, half of X looks like a bargain. Look how it worked on that Bride poster. It was offered for over a million dollars on eBay for so long that it started to seem like "the price", and you guys were thinking $700,000 was totally reasonable, and some of you even thought there was a "real" $575,000 bid.

There have only been a handful of posters that sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and many of them have been under somewhat dubious circumstances.

This hobby has a TON of "rooters", but very few people with serious cold hard cash. Try offering any of the 9 posters above for sale to dealers at half those prices, and see if you get any takers.

Bruce
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Post by: CJ138 on November 14, 2010, 03:23:13 PM
WTF. This guy has seven auctions going with Peeping Tom quads as the picture though the title of the auction does not match. Additionally, the description on the page for each auction is for a Peeping Tom quad. All of his feedback is from private auctions.
Anyone know of this seller?

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/bernal316/m.html
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Post by: guest8 on November 14, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on November 14, 2010, 03:23:13 PM
WTF. This guy has seven auctions going with Peeping Tom quads as the picture though the title of the auction does not match. Additionally, the description on the page for each auction is for a Peeping Tom quad. All of his feedback is from private auctions.
Anyone know of this seller?

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/bernal316/m.html

It just looks like someones auto-listing got messed up .. If I were to guess Id say the auction titles are correct and everything else is wrong.
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Post by: crowzilla on November 14, 2010, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2010, 02:44:21 PM
Always take those "I turned down a million" stories with a big grain of salt. It is funny how often those kind of buyers completely evaporate when they have the same opportunity to buy those items at an auction that requires cash payments.

It is an old trick to constantly say "I could have sold this for X" (some skyhigh number) so that when that item is actually offered, half of X looks like a bargain. Look how it worked on that Bride poster. It was offered for over a million dollars on eBay for so long that it started to seem like "the price", and you guys were thinking $700,000 was totally reasonable, and some of you even thought there was a "real" $575,000 bid.

There have only been a handful of posters that sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and many of them have been under somewhat dubious circumstances.

This hobby has a TON of "rooters", but very few people with serious cold hard cash. Try offering any of the 9 posters above for sale to dealers at half those prices, and see if you get any takers.

Bruce

In general I agree with everything Bruce has said above, and there are always examples of people who will make a crazy offer on an item and then are thankful later when that offer was declined as they really couldn't afford it to start with.  Since the style D Bride of Frankenstein sold for "only" $335K (and that price was double what the style C had sold for just a few years ago), it seemed like extremely hopeful thinking to believe that the style E Bride could again double the previous top Bride price so quickly.

HOWEVER... at least one of the offers I am thinking about was made by the purchaser of the Flying Down to Rio one-sheet, and was a legitimate $750K offer made with cash in hand for what most would consider to be one of the top pieces in the hobby and was turned down.

As for dealers not paying half of the above prices on any of the nine posters pictured, I will state that I can have a cashier's check ready and waiting for at least five of those pieces (Not interested in Babe Ruth, Flying Down to Rio or either of the Black Cat pieces) if anyone wishes to sell them for half those prices.
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Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Sean

You are one of the few dealers who DOES "put their money where their mouth is" (and there are some other notable ones, but not many) and that is surely why you continually have new top quality acquisitions. But far too many other dealers operate on the "buy for pennies, sell for skyhigh prices" philosophy that does nothing to help collectors have confidence that their purchases will hold their value over time.

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2010, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 14, 2010, 04:39:59 PM

As for dealers not paying half of the above prices on any of the nine posters pictured, I will state that I can have a cashier's check ready and waiting for at least five of those pieces (Not interested in Babe Ruth, Flying Down to Rio or either of the Black Cat pieces) if anyone wishes to sell them for half those prices.


and I have Sean's cash in Sean's hand to do the same
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Post by: Matt on November 20, 2010, 05:28:03 PM
Phew!!! Lucky we only collect posters.


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LIGHTED-MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-BACKLIT-LIGHTBOX-Cinema-/400174130766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2c3ca64e#ht_6097wt_1050 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LIGHTED-MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-BACKLIT-LIGHTBOX-Cinema-/400174130766?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2c3ca64e#ht_6097wt_1050)
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Post by: brude on November 20, 2010, 06:08:46 PM
Jeezum crow...that's pricey....  <OO
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 20, 2010, 06:33:17 PM
2.1M for a lightbox?!  You've gotta be fucking kidding me.  Good thing the company is Discount Home Theater Lightboxes otherwise the cost would be outrageous  eyeroll
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 20, 2010, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: Dr Hackenbush on November 20, 2010, 06:33:17 PM
2.1M for a lightbox?!  You've gotta be fucking kidding me.  Good thing the company is Discount Home Theater Lightboxes otherwise the cost would be outrageous  eyeroll

the guy must be on dope, and booze, and meth, and peyote as well as some other drugs that are yet known to man

he must also be talking Japanese Yen

I bought a theatre-used lightbox in july at a local auction for the princely sum of $5
damn thing must weigh 75 lbs though
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 20, 2010, 06:53:05 PM
and by the way, a "4 bulb upgrade" is included
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 20, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 20, 2010, 06:53:05 PM
and by the way, a "4 bulb upgrade" is included

Which justifies the asking price, I'm sure   
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 20, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
Quote from: Dr Hackenbush on November 20, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
Which justifies the asking price, I'm sure   

of course.. a "three bulb upgrade" only costs $750k
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 20, 2010, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 20, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
of course.. a "three bulb upgrade" only costs $750k

Screw the BoF teaser, I need to get me one of those  :P
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Post by: Matt on November 20, 2010, 07:46:01 PM
But wait there's more. You can light up your pool table for a cool million. That's a fucken bargain in any ones books. eyeroll

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mahogany-Hanging-Pool-Table-Billiards-Light-Bar-Tavern-/400173194606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2c2e5d (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mahogany-Hanging-Pool-Table-Billiards-Light-Bar-Tavern-/400173194606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2c2e5d)
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Post by: guest8 on November 21, 2010, 08:11:47 AM
The company is only a few hours from me so I had heard of them before .. but it looks like their tactical auctions/advertising has worked .. Had they listed the items for their real prices no one would have bothered to post not one but two of thier auction on here for the rest of us to eagerly click on to see wtf you were all talking about ;)
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Post by: Bruce on November 21, 2010, 08:26:42 AM
Since eBay often charges no listing fees these days, eventually almost all auctions will start at one million dollars (and state the real prices in the listing) and the ones that stand out will be the few that start at a realistic price!

laugh1 rofl1 laugh1 rofl1 laugh1 rofl1

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 22, 2010, 08:09:57 PM
Just checked out Christie's upcoming auction on December 1 (http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/searchresults.aspx?intSaleID=22890).  My faves:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Bonds-2.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Salome.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Jazz.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Barbarella-3.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on November 22, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
That Barbarella is a great design!
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Post by: Louie D. on November 23, 2010, 12:19:16 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 22, 2010, 08:09:57 PM
Just checked out Christie's upcoming auction on December 1 (http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/searchresults.aspx?intSaleID=22890).

Boy, not too much vintage ooze in that auction.........
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 23, 2010, 10:45:07 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 06, 2010, 08:18:19 AM
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/gilda_styleB_LB00289_L.jpg)

Bruce & Company just topped their last auction IMHO:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Rita.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on November 23, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
It sure is another beauty Mel but for me it doesn't top the Gilda strip tease...
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Post by: brude on November 24, 2010, 12:33:41 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 23, 2010, 11:13:01 PM
It sure is another beauty Mel but for me it doesn't top the Gilda strip tease...

Agreed.  Nice poster, but nothing like GILDA.
Va-va-vooooom...
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on November 24, 2010, 06:41:03 AM
I'm more impressed with the Vampire Bat (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2023259) 1sh  wow1  Wish I could afford something this amazing.  It's already at almost $700 barely after the auction went live.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2010, 07:42:56 PM
Hey Bruce, who writes these trippy poster descriptions?  That must be a fun job. "What would you do if your mother was a damn mean prostitute?"  (The actual line on the poster is "what would you do if your mama was a hooker?")

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Hooker.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on November 29, 2010, 08:27:41 PM
Maybe you had the "family friendly filter" on Mel?
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Post by: Bruce on November 29, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
I had a woman ask if the person or persons who write those titles is a 17 year old male!

It is a closely guarded trade secret that I personally write most of the "trippy" titles, so keep it between you and me.

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 29, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
What if your damn hooker was a mean movie poster seller
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2010, 10:18:12 PM
La Femme Et Le Pantin (A Woman Like Satan) Italian one sheet:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/LaFemmeEtLePantinAWomanLikeSatan.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Femme1.jpg)



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Post by: marklawd on November 30, 2010, 05:20:23 AM
Even though it didn't catch my eye in the catalogue I was drawn to this poster during a viewing yesterday - the photograph doesn't capture how astonishingly beautiful BB is in that artwork.

Mark
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Post by: brude on November 30, 2010, 11:01:15 AM
Aaaaahhhhh...Bardot....whatta poster....
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 01, 2010, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2010, 10:18:12 PM
La Femme Et Le Pantin (A Woman Like Satan) Italian one sheet:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/LaFemmeEtLePantinAWomanLikeSatan.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Femme1.jpg)


Sold for 1625 pounds ($2,527) double the high estimate and worth every penny....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2010, 02:50:47 AM
which of you degenerates is going to win this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/LARGE-B1-SEXY-TATOOED-WOMAN-MAI-HANA-1983-JAPAN-POSTER-/280598854510?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4154febb6e
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Post by: paul waines on December 04, 2010, 03:09:10 AM
Not me I'm not keen on Tattoo's on Women, give me that Bardot any time.
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Post by: brude on December 05, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
Here's a real WTF?
I was going to email the seller and ask him who did the art alterations on this classic Reynold Brown LOVE SLAVES OF THE AMAZON one sheet....check it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOVE-SLAVES-AMAZONS-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1-SH-1957-/170575402494?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b71615fe (http://cgi.ebay.com/LOVE-SLAVES-AMAZONS-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1-SH-1957-/170575402494?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b71615fe)

Here's what it should look like...
http://www.internetweekly.org/2007/02/reynold_brown.html (http://www.internetweekly.org/2007/02/reynold_brown.html)
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 05, 2010, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: brude on December 05, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
Here's a real WTF?
I was going to email the seller and ask him who did the art alterations on this classic Reynold Brown LOVE SLAVES OF THE AMAZON one sheet....check it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOVE-SLAVES-AMAZONS-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1-SH-1957-/170575402494?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b71615fe (http://cgi.ebay.com/LOVE-SLAVES-AMAZONS-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1-SH-1957-/170575402494?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b71615fe)

Here's what it should look like...
http://www.internetweekly.org/2007/02/reynold_brown.html (http://www.internetweekly.org/2007/02/reynold_brown.html)

HA!  What a bunch of prudes!  The horror, I once saw a hand-colored Connery bond quad like that as well... it looked like they put friggin' burkas on the bond girls, but I can't for the life of me find the pic or even remember which movie it was for.  I think either Dr. No or FRWL...
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Post by: eatbrie on December 05, 2010, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2010, 10:18:12 PM
La Femme Et Le Pantin (A Woman Like Satan) Italian one sheet:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/LaFemmeEtLePantinAWomanLikeSatan.jpg)

SHIT!!!  This is STUNNING, truly, absolutely STUNNING.  One of the most beautiful posters I have ever seen.  Like you said, Mel, worth every penny.  And double that.  This is the first time I wished I knew how to buy from such auctions.

Wow!

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 05, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 05, 2010, 02:14:52 PM
This is the first time I wished I knew how to buy from such auctions.

Get up at 5am PST and call in a bid is the low tech way. (It was 8am EST).  I didn't bid on anything but I was assuming Christies offers online bidding as well.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 05, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
I'm never much in awe of anything, because really, it's just posters, but this is something different.  Thanks for sharing.  I'll be on the lookout.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 05, 2010, 07:00:18 PM
Someone is making a huge mistake - the 1980 releases are a dime-a-dozen on Ebay for $50....

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/1980.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
Six sheet Breakfast at Tiffany's - $11,000 on UK Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Breakfast-Tiffanys-1961-six-6-sheet-movie-poster-/270649064233) - yowza!

That actually is not a bad price, considering how much one sheets go for.

(http://chic-a-boom.com/pics/breakfast6sheet.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 09:02:00 AM
Dear god why did they linen back it if they weren't even going to keep it! 
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Post by: Bruce on December 07, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
The seller is a friend of mine. He thought it displays so much better backed. I know he is telling the truth about the condition.

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:21:24 AM
Personally, I see no problem backing 3 sheets, 6 sheets etc - it is just the easiest way to assemble the pieces and display it as a single entity
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Post by: wonka on December 07, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:21:24 AM
Personally, I see no problem backing 3 sheets, 6 sheets etc - it is just the easiest way to assemble the pieces and display it as a single entity
I agree, they look so much nicer and downright purdy that way, and in some cases might help spur sales or bids so folks can see the entirety of the poster all smoothed out.

That BAT sixer is incredible, I saw it awhile back.

Gotta get my Peter Pan on linen (not to mention my other six and three sheets), but the $500 or so odd dollars I need to get it done keep getting thrown at other posters...you know how it goes.
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Post by: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:48:20 AM
Quote from: wonka on December 07, 2010, 10:33:09 AM

Gotta get my Peter Pan on linen (not to mention my other six and three sheets), but the $500 or so odd dollars I need to get it done keep getting thrown at other posters...you know how it goes.


I know exactly how it goes!  Keep meaning to order some more frames but the budget keeps getting spent on on more paper...vicious
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Post by: wonka on December 07, 2010, 10:55:45 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:48:20 AM
I know exactly how it goes!  Keep meaning to order some more frames but the budget keeps getting spent on on more paper...vicious
Haha, yep!
I bought my French small Curse of the Werewolf to be framed in the living room since my wife also likes it.

Saved up for some high-brow top dollar, archival frame job...then blew my load on some other paper...to be framed of course...or to just sit in a pile downstairs...whatever....its a nasty cycle.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 10:59:34 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:21:24 AM
Personally, I see no problem backing 3 sheets, 6 sheets etc - it is just the easiest way to assemble the pieces and display it as a single entity

$500 for linen-backing? 

No way - $5 acid-free tape is the DPM way - just tape 'em together on the back. Otherwise, they would just sit around collecting dust. Of course, I wouldn't do that for an expensive six sheet. 
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Post by: wonka on December 07, 2010, 11:06:19 AM
Sure, that is an estimate.

I have a bunch of three and six sheets, some will get put on linen because I might display them, some might not cause they will sit in a drawer forever.

I love these things on linen, I love how well they store and how durable they are...but that's just me.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 07, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
The seller is a friend of mine. He thought it displays so much better backed. I know he is telling the truth about the condition.

Bruce

I realize it displays better linen backed.  But surely a NM, unused and unbacked BAT 6-sheet is a near one of a kind piece.  I've seen dozens examples of backed 6-sheets... now it is just one of many.  My jaw almost hit the floor when I saw an unbacked Forbidden Planet 6-sheet was being sold at HA's recent auction.  The temptation to back something like that over the years must have been intense... I'm glad to see that the seller resisted.  Who knows what the new buyer will do though...

Bruce, you mentioned in another thread about flattening folds that the owner of the Lawrence of Arabia 1-sheet (and another Kong poster) had their posters flattened without being backed.  Surely someone could flatten all the piece of a 6 sheet and lightly tape them to an artcare backing for framing.  It would look nearly as good as a linen backed piece and still be kept in pristine condition for long term. 

I still linen back when necessary, but my views on using it solely for aesthetic reasons have really taken a complete 180.  It pains my heart to hear about people backing NM paper... regardless of the size.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
It pains my heart to hear about people backing NM paper... regardless of the size.

Doesn't the process de-acidify the paper?  Without LBing, wouldn't the poster eventually yellow badly and in the long run disintegrate?

And are there really "many" 6 sheet BATs?  Emovie has sold one (15 years ago) and Heritage has never sold one.  Surely, only a handful of these are left.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 07, 2010, 03:40:46 PM
complete de-acidification does not exist. Chemicals that "arrest" the acid are used to stave off problems, however I can tell you that buffering agents are only temporary and there is empirical evidence that shows once the buffering agent stops working (buffering agents are not permanent)  that the acidification of the paper increases at a faster pace than normal. So it's a two-edged sword
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 12:44:33 PM
And are there really "many" 6 sheet BATs?  Emovie has sold one (15 years ago) and Heritage has never sold one.  Surely, only a handful of these are left.

Christie's has sold at least 5.  Not sure how many more are floating around at dealers or still unsold in private collections...

At least there is one more unbacked 6-sheet in existence. (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=24719)  If it hasn't been backed by now of course.

(http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/movies/1960s/1961/reg/breakfastattiffanys_6S.jpg)

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 05:27:27 PM
Christie's has sold at least 5.  Not sure how many more are floating around at dealers or still unsold in private collections...

At least there is one more unbacked 6-sheet in existence. (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=24719)  If it hasn't been backed by now of course.


The LB version wins by a country mile IMHO.  It's a $10,000+ showpiece and who would want to show off a rumpled version?  Everyone who has ever seen one of my folded posters always says something like "why is it folded - it looks ugly that way."
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
Come on Mel.  No one would never display it like that and you know it... read my above comments to Bruce.  If pressed it would essentially look like several rolled posters.  The only thing missing is gluing them down together vs. taping them down together.  It would also further press flat between the framing materials.
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Post by: stewart boyle on December 07, 2010, 05:58:58 PM
I tend to agree with Harry,but im curious as to how you would display or frame such a gem Harry?

Stew
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Post by: Neo on December 07, 2010, 05:59:58 PM
I have to agree with Mel on this one.  The framed, linen backed pieces that I have look awesome, and even if someone with a folded poster found a competent person to use the method that Bruce described, I cannot imagine it looking as good as the same piece that is linen backed, and I base this conclusion on absolutely nothing.   :D
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on December 07, 2010, 05:58:58 PM
I tend to agree with Harry,but im curious as to how you would display or frame such a gem Harry?

Stew

Take a look at the following poster...

(http://users.frii.com/cindy/satguys/3sheet_kissmekate.JPG)



While even in this very crude example, I personally don't think the folds are all that bad. And keep in mind we aren't talking about a NM poster either like the BAT 6 banger either.  That said, I think the most distracting part is the folds, not necessarily the seam, which especially if taped properly could be hidden much better.

Now take a look at this LOA 1-sheet that Bruce told us was pressed without being backed. 



(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA081204/lawrence_of_arabia_pre_awards_style_linen_JA02207_L.jpg)



I serious doubt the fold-line remnants on this poster would be any more distracting than fold line remnants on a linen backed poster.  Also keep in mind that the reason the panels on 3-sheets, 6-sheets, and Italian 2-panels do not match up properly is *not* because they were printed that way.  But once soaked in water and mounted to linen, the paper shrinks.  By the time two or more individual pieces are put to linen, they have begun to dry at different times and the end result is usually a slight mismatch.

If each of the panels were pressed flat as the LOA above, then taped together from the back and further pressed over time between the backing and the plexi... I highly doubt the seams would be very visible and you would probably end up with a better aligned image.  That is how I would go about framing a large, unbacked signature poster.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying everyone should do this by the way. God knows I have plenty of linen backed posters in my collection... including my new Fistful of Dollars 2-panel.  I'm just trying to challenge the notion that one has to linen back a large poster to frame it.  Besides, try finding a big enough piece of plexiglas anyway... you will be up against that problem whether you linen back it or not!


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Post by: Zorba on December 07, 2010, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on December 07, 2010, 05:59:58 PM
I have to agree with Mel on this one.  The framed, linen backed pieces that I have look awesome, and even if someone with a folded poster found a competent person to use the method that Bruce described, I cannot imagine it looking as good as the same piece that is linen backed, and I base this conclusion on absolutely nothing.   :D

 laugh1

Absolutely nothing?...I think you have a pretty good idea and I feel as though I must side with you and Mel.  Four outta five of my LB posters look fantastic! and the fifth aint so bad.

One edit: I do not have a problem with fold lines  8)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2010, 08:13:43 PM
The folds on white posters bother me more than on other posters:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Folds2.jpg)

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Folds1.jpg)
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Post by: velvet11 on December 07, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
I'm curious -- is the tape used to tape these large, multi-part posters together removable? Or is it stuck on forever once it's applied?

 ron
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Post by: 50s on December 07, 2010, 09:03:50 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
Also keep in mind that the reason the panels on 3-sheets, 6-sheets, and Italian 2-panels do not match up properly is *not* because they were printed that way.  But once soaked in water and mounted to linen, the paper shrinks.  By the time two or more individual pieces are put to linen, they have begun to dry at different times and the end result is usually a slight mismatch.

Mismatches from my experience is due to:
- different panels soaked in the wheat paste for different times (the sheets expand the longer they are soaked)
- the direction of the fibres in the sheets. The sheets expand more in one direction than the other, so if the sheets dont have their fibres matching in the same direction, mismatch will occur unless this is factored in in the above soaking timings.

I think once the sheets are positioned on the backing, the sheets will maintain their relative position, one wont move against the other. You do have some flexibility to stretch the paper a little to align a bit better while it is still wet.
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Post by: Bruce on December 07, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
"Also keep in mind that the reason the panels on 3-sheets, 6-sheets, and Italian 2-panels do not match up properly is *not* because they were printed that way."

This is absolutely not true ALL the time. I have sold many thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of three-sheets and six-sheets and thousands of Italian two-panels, and I can tell you that it is fairly common on older posters for the sections to be mis-matched (I would say at least one in 50) and they were never backed.

Why? Because the printers did not care enough! I have seen incredibly bad mis-matches, and most times restorers line the sections up as best they can, and the person lives with the mis-match. The late great Igor Edelman loved to do these posters, because he would re-paint over the mis-match and make it match!

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:34:34 PM
Another I've noticed about 3 sheets, 6 sheets etc is that sometimes the colours do not match from section to section. 

This can be very detrimental to the overall look of the poster.

I wonder if this is also a printer issue or if perhaps in some instances someone has found a missing section from another print run and/or a sun faded section and added to the other pieces...
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Post by: Ari on December 07, 2010, 10:34:50 PM
I reckon they hardly ever match perfectly.
hard to see, but I cant get either of these 100%, close, but not spot on

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/posterfreak/ZZZZZZ/Australian/3sheets/Kangaroo3Sheet.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/posterfreak/ZZZZZZ/Australian/3sheets/pillowtalk3SHEETcomposite.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 07, 2010, 10:40:41 PM
Quote from: 50s on December 07, 2010, 09:03:50 PM
Mismatches from my experience is due to:
- different panels soaked in the wheat paste for different times (the sheets expand the longer they are soaked)
- the direction of the fibres in the sheets. The sheets expand more in one direction than the other, so if the sheets dont have their fibres matching in the same direction, mismatch will occur unless this is factored in in the above soaking timings.

I think once the sheets are positioned on the backing, the sheets will maintain their relative position, one wont move against the other. You do have some flexibility to stretch the paper a little to align a bit better while it is still wet.

Thanks for clarifying 50s... I knew I read from Dario it was due to backing, but I remembered incorrectly as to which step. 

Bruce et al... I have no doubt that mismatches also happened at the printing stage.  I was just trying to point out that linen backing does have its drawbacks. 
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Post by: 50s on December 08, 2010, 03:07:06 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 07, 2010, 10:34:34 PM
Another I've noticed about 3 sheets, 6 sheets etc is that sometimes the colours do not match from section to section. 

This can be very detrimental to the overall look of the poster.

I wonder if this is also a printer issue or if perhaps in some instances someone has found a missing section from another print run and/or a sun faded section and added to the other pieces...

Hi Chris, my restorer once told we, and I forgot his exact wording, something like, during a print run the last printings the colours are not as strong as the first as that is the time to apply the ink again to the plates. So one of the sheets may have come off the press while the ink was good and the other sheet likely was near the end of the run...
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Post by: longdog on December 08, 2010, 05:19:53 AM
Hi Steve,

I was also told something similar and was also told to bear in mind that a 3-sheet would obviously be printed seperately (perhaps even on different machines), one for the larger and one for the smaller sections. If this was the case than quite probably the intensity of the inks would vary between the sheets (and machines) which is made even more apparent due to the size of the poster when matched together.

Paul.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 07:46:51 AM
All five or so of my multi-panel posters are "mismatched" to some extent - the color, size, etc. of the panels is somewhat different and noticeable.

Does anybody have a picture of a six sheet in a theater lobby?
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Post by: Zorba on December 08, 2010, 08:14:15 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 07:46:51 AM
Does anybody have a picture of a six sheet in a theater lobby?

Emovie matches the multi panel posters up pretty well.
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Post by: Bruce on December 08, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
"All five or so of my multi-panel posters are "mismatched" to some extent"

When I said one in 50 are mis-matched, I meant severely mis-matched to where it is very distracting.

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on December 08, 2010, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: 50s on December 08, 2010, 03:07:06 AM
Hi Chris, my restorer once told we, and I forgot his exact wording, something like, during a print run the last printings the colours are not as strong as the first as that is the time to apply the ink again to the plates. So one of the sheets may have come off the press while the ink was good and the other sheet likely was near the end of the run...

Interesting, thanks Steve.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 08, 2010, 11:10:34 AM
Quote from: velvet11 on December 07, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
I'm curious -- is the tape used to tape these large, multi-part posters together removable? Or is it stuck on forever once it's applied?
 ron

It is my understanding that using acid-free tape will not damage the poster.  However, it should be removed by a professional.  I'm not sure if it needs to be softened with bestine first or what... but it probably means you shouldn't just try to tear it off.



By the way all, I'm not on an anti-linen crusade or anything.  I have several linen backed posters and will probably buy more if can't find the titles I want any other way.  However, I do think it should be used as a last resort and I will no longer be backing my posters for aesthetic reasons only.  This 6-sheet just triggered me as the seller didn't even back it for their own enjoyment (which I can begrudgingly understand).  At least let the buyer make up their own mind about it.  If this was a beat up copy that wouldn't present nicely to buyers anyway, I would be more forgiving... but this was by their accounts a NM unused poster!

With so many frauds and forgeries these days, the more posters we can keep unbacked the better in my opinion.  What is the old saying... once you go backed, you'll never go back.  ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 01:08:22 PM
Another thing you notice about large posters is the low printing resolution, which is intentional since they are meant to viewed from a distance, not close up.
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Post by: paul waines on December 08, 2010, 03:58:56 PM
I have a quite a few 6sht and bigger posters and I don't know why. I have no where to display them, and they are a sod when getting out for a look at them. 

Maybe it's just in the back of your mind you know that you've got them....... :-\
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: paul waines on December 08, 2010, 03:58:56 PM
Maybe it's just in the back of your mind you know that you've got them....... :-\

The majority of collectors are just like you, Paul.

If I didn't have space to display my posters, I'd probably exclusively collect lobby cards.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 08, 2010, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
The majority of collectors are just like you, Paul.

If I didn't have space to display my posters, I'd probably exclusively collect lobby cards.


I just had a funny thought of seeing your apartment with 7 lobby card frames in place of every 1-sheet frame you have!!!!   :o :o :o :o


How many 1-sheets do you have displayed now? 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 08, 2010, 06:54:56 PM

I just had a funny thought of seeing your apartment with 7 lobby card frames in place of every 1-sheet frame you have!!!!   :o :o :o :o


How many 1-sheets do you have displayed now?  

72 frames, mostly one sheets.  What, are you suggesting that's weird or something?  Well, you know, like, that's just your opinion, man.
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Post by: Zorba on December 09, 2010, 07:06:38 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 10:54:55 PM
72 frames, mostly one sheets.  What, are you suggesting that's weird or something?  Well, you know, like, that's just your opinion, man.

My professional opinion is that its 5% weird and 95% cool!  8)
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Post by: CJ138 on December 09, 2010, 07:17:11 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 08, 2010, 10:54:55 PM
72 frames, mostly one sheets.  What, are you suggesting that's weird or something?  Well, you know, like, that's just your opinion, man.
The Dude abides.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on December 09, 2010, 08:58:09 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Italian-WAY-OF-THE-DRAGON-55x78-BRUCE-LEE_W0QQitemZ310276295433QQcategoryZ61107QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5527776985559696090

This by far rarest Italy Bruce Lee poster  :o
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Post by: paul waines on December 09, 2010, 12:10:59 PM
I was borderline bidding on that Italian Way of the Dragon, but thought if Tang is I'll leave it.

Any thing you can tell me about this version, it is a 73 release, and the pic of Bruce is from Fist of Fury, but it is most definitely Way of.


(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0053.jpg)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on December 09, 2010, 05:28:57 PM
The jump style is very common , its the chopping hand style thats a b***h to find.

The 1st issue 2sh/4shs may have been printed by Novograph and the pbs by Rotograph (thats the case with Scars of Dracula , same era)
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Post by: paul waines on December 10, 2010, 11:41:51 AM
Thanks for the info Tang, I used to be a collector of all things Bruce Lee. I stopped when I stopped teaching martial Arts, and drifted back to my first love, old Horror films. Though still have quite a lot of Bruce Lee items. 
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Post by: holiday on December 10, 2010, 06:48:33 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on December 09, 2010, 05:28:57 PM
The jump style is very common , its the chopping hand style thats a b***h to find.

The 1st issue 2sh/4shs may have been printed by Novograph and the pbs by Rotograph (thats the case with Scars of Dracula , same era)

If "bitch" is the worst thing you say on this forum, you'll be the new APF Saint Tang
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Post by: paul waines on December 12, 2010, 06:12:22 AM
Am I missing something here??? these are for sale on Amazon for £3.99 or there abouts. this guy is selling for £100, and there is a bid on it!!!!  is the buyer just going to claim his double money back, or is this a genuine original poster.

Hope the link works I'm a bit rubbish at this.




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280599620115&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_739wt_1141
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 12, 2010, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: paul waines on December 12, 2010, 06:12:22 AM
Am I missing something here??? these are for sale on Amazon for £3.99 or there abouts. this guy is selling for £100, and there is a bid on it!!!!  is the buyer just going to claim his double money back, or is this a genuine original poster.

Just another 25x39 reprint junking up the Ebay listings....
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Post by: Ari on December 12, 2010, 10:14:45 PM
Be honest, it has always been dead, as people may know I was banned, then rejoined after an apology, I gave another go, and quit after some shit that was going on, with some dick saying LIES and when myself and some others tried to say the TRUTH our posts were deleted, his remained. And I even think I gave it a 3rd go, when Andy put out a message on Mopo re no hard feelings.
I got nothing against the site - except, when people TRY to, with their own time, free, and their knowledge, tel the truth only to be edited/deleted/banned for information, that may be contrary to his paying members - or in one case regarding a poster valuable) Senior Peanut paid for.....
And also sending his stooges (or himself in disguise) to NS4 and posting the giant white JPG (cripes I saved that sucker somewhere) caused a shit load of my members computers to crash.
bah, its a joke.
BTW, dont know if you guys have, but in the early days at NS4 I got MANY emails from dealers wanting to pay for advertising, banners, sponsorship, etc etc, but the decision was made after the collapse of MPT, to NOT be involved in paid endorsment, we wanted free speach no chance of the owner/s (me and phil) to be swayed by the "HEY I PAID YOU $X AND YOU LET USER X TO SAY THAT ABOUT ME?"

So what I am saying is, while Andy should be able to run it however the freak he wants, I feel for the users who take ANY information from that site as the word, because there is a lot of lies, mistruths, deceptions, and also just ignorance (innocent) - its ok to have crooks as members, as long as the other side can STATE THEIR POSITION, buyer beware, but allow for them to make their own decision.

Anyway I have checked in maybe 3 or 4 times this year and learned exactly, NOTHING.

Would I pay for an advert? no. Although I know someone has said he has more hits via MF than NS4, but then we dont have sponsors, so maybe as a linking tool it works. dunno. It might be a peanut hitting links at home to provide the stats.

Ahh well, luckily, I know many people, like some, and end of the day, we can't all be friends, or agree, good luck, have fun, only advise is relax, if its for fun, if its business, he has done better than me, I never made a dime on NS4 - (yeah so who is the idiot?)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 02, 2011, 12:23:18 PM
Outstanding 1926 poster for The Black Pirate coming up at Heritage in March (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035&LotIdNo=43001).  This one apparently has not been restored or LB'd:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/Black%20Pirate%20(1928%20SSF).jpeg)

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Post by: stewart boyle on January 02, 2011, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 02, 2011, 12:23:18 PM
Outstanding 1926 poster for The Black Pirate coming up at Heritage in March (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7035&LotIdNo=43001).  This one apparently has not been restored or LB'd:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/Black%20Pirate%20(1928%20SSF).jpeg)



Nice Mel,,but give me lee way here guys..do i see warping or roll marks on this..would that be irrelevant anyway??

Stew
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Post by: kovacs01 on January 02, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
Id call the marks I see on it irrelevant given its age.  The girl with a mustache, however, turns me on.
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Post by: stewart boyle on January 02, 2011, 01:00:57 PM
Thanks Kovacs... :) all thats missing is a side boob...

Stew
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 02, 2011, 03:22:07 PM
You cheeseballs would probably be more interested in this auction next week (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511012&LotIdNo=1025):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Anderson.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
it's definitely sad that Pam has, like Jayne Mansfield before her, become a parody of herself
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Post by: stewart boyle on January 02, 2011, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
it's definitely sad that Pam has, like Jayne Mansfield before her, become a parody of herself

She was a great sport on Comedy roasts though!!

Stew

Ps..yes i would.
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Post by: paul waines on January 02, 2011, 06:32:35 PM
Yes I would also.....................Bid on that poster. ;)
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Post by: CSM on January 02, 2011, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on January 02, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
Id call the marks I see on it irrelevant given its age.  The girl with a mustache, however, turns me on.

 clap
Title: UNICORN ALERT!
Post by: Harry Caul on January 05, 2011, 05:46:15 PM
It looks like the secret is out given that it's currently the most expensive poster this week at HA -- having already been bid up to $717 with BP and 4 days left to go.  I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who loves this poster!

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511012&Lot_No=52109
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Post by: Ed_209uk on January 05, 2011, 06:16:27 PM
It is a cracker and one of the best of the 70s IMO. Do you know who's the artist?
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 06, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
Not sure, I don't think its signed.  Regardless of who painted it, they clearly has issues! 

I don't know what that says about me, though, as I looked forever to find one!
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 08, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
Up to $956 with a day to go! 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 09, 2011, 05:41:38 PM
A 1921 poster - 90 years old! - going up for Auction in March at Heritage.  When did they first start printing 27x41 one sheets?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/HauntedHouse1921.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 09, 2011, 05:52:52 PM
the earliest one sheet I have is 1904 or thereabouts

kinda hard to date some because they didn't use a standard code that I'm aware of

I have a poster (for a Jesus movie) that is supposedly 1898, but I'm certain is 1910-1915

i have a number of pre-1920 one sheets
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Post by: Bruce on January 09, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Calm down, Mel! This is FAR from one of the earliest one-sheet posters.

The very first one-sheets were in circa 1898 to 1902. The "one-sheet" (and three-sheets, six-sheets, etc) had already been in use from magic, circus, and stage show posters, so it made perfect sense to use the same sizes (although the very first movie posters were more like window card size, and they more advertised the new phenomenon than any specific movie.

There are some one-sheets from independents (like Barnsdale) that are dated from 1902 to 1904. The first one-sheets from a "name" studio are some 1907 ones from Vitagraph, but those don't have a single central image.

There are 1909 one-sheets and three-sheets from Biograph. There was a large find of different 1913 and 1914 one-sheets made in the 1960s, and near that time Collector's Book Store bought an incredible collection of file copies from William Randolph Hearst's estate that included a lot of 1915 to 1918 posters.

There was also an amazing find in Australia that included both styles of Birth of a Nation (1915) and both styles of Intolerance (1916).

And I auctioned a huge percentage of the above posters over the years!

1921 one-sheets are rare, but ones from 1918 and earlier are super rare, likely because of WWI paper drives.

Bruce
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Post by: 50s on January 09, 2011, 05:59:27 PM
L.A.M.P. (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/index/articles/onesheet.asp) suggest 1909
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Post by: crowzilla on January 09, 2011, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 09, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Calm down, Mel! This is FAR from one of the earliest one-sheet posters.

But you really have to admire Mel's enthusiasm.
Sounds like he could definitely stand to pore through some more of your catalogs (especially the early ones) showing a number of early posters and definitely needs to get a copy of Reel Art.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 09, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Appreciate that but printed catalogs are totally stone age to me.  Right now Heritage blows away the competition for checking out past sales and viewing previously-sold posters.  It took me one minute to line up pre-1920 comedy posters in reverse price order:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Heritage-3.jpg)
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Post by: Matt on January 09, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
In 2007 The Story of the Kelly Gang(1906) was inscribed on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register for being the world's first full-length feature film.

1906   The Story of the Kelly Gang   Daybill. 'Anderson's Olympia Theatre, Saturday Nov. 26. J.J. Miller Print Co. Opp Post Office Place, Melb. 21-11-10'. 3 colour - red, blue and black. 15 x 40 inches. National Film and Sound Archive, Canberra, item #350429. Illustrated Adamson, colour; Sabine, p.51, b/w.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/posters1.htm (http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/posters1.htm)

http://aso.gov.au/titles/features/story-kelly-gang/ (http://aso.gov.au/titles/features/story-kelly-gang/)


        
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Post by: crowzilla on January 09, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 09, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Appreciate that but printed catalogs are totally stone age to me.  Right now Heritage blows away the competition for checking out past sales and viewing previously-sold posters.  It took me one minute to line up pre-1920 comedy posters in reverse price order:

Totally agree with you that the Heritage database is by far the easiest to use (don't know why Bruce needs two separate searches for price and images, or why thumbnails can't be shown on either one) - but by limiting yourself to the Heritage archives you are missing out on a world of images that they have not been able to bring to auction yet.  You will never get to see what a Mummy one-sheet looks like, or the beauty of an unfolded The Devil Is a Woman one-sheet, and you would be totally in the dark about how much better a German Metropolis 3-sheet is than a US insert.

And Reel Art is an absolute essential on every collector's shelf.  not only for the images contained inside, but for the valuable historical information it presents inside as well.
 
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Post by: CSM on January 09, 2011, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 09, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
And Reel Art is an absolute essential on every collector's shelf.  not only for the images contained inside, but for the valuable historical information it presents inside as well.
 


Definitely recommend Reel Art as well.  There is something to be said about having poster resources "in your hand" vs e-resources!
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Post by: Matt on January 10, 2011, 12:20:03 AM
Has anyone put 2 and 2 together by reading this.

Quote from: Matt on January 09, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
In 2007 The Story of the Kelly Gang(1906) was inscribed on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register for being the world's first full-length feature film.

1906   The Story of the Kelly Gang   Daybill. 'Anderson's Olympia Theatre, Saturday Nov. 26. J.J. Miller Print Co. Opp Post Office Place, Melb. 21-11-10'. 3 colour - red, blue and black. 15 x 40 inches. National Film and Sound Archive, Canberra, item #350429. Illustrated Adamson, colour; Sabine, p.51, b/w.

http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/posters1.htm (http://www.uow.edu.au/~morgan/posters1.htm)

http://aso.gov.au/titles/features/story-kelly-gang/ (http://aso.gov.au/titles/features/story-kelly-gang/)
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Post by: Bruce on January 10, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
"Right now Heritage blows away the competition for checking out past sales and viewing previously-sold posters.  It took me one minute to line up pre-1920 comedy posters in reverse price order:"

Agreed! But that is FINALLY about to change, as we are extremely close to unveiling our combined sales results and image archives!

It won't be perfect, but it will be light years ahead of where we were, and we will keep improving it.

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 10, 2011, 10:26:17 PM
An extremely rare US international Sting "art decor" OS is up for auction on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-STING-Original-US-1-Sheet-Style-B-Intl-/130473433128#ht_669wt_1141).  Right now it's much less than it has auctioned for in the past:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Sting.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on January 11, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
So will you be bidding Mel?  I need to know who my competition is...
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 11, 2011, 12:51:07 PM
Liking the Art Deco 'The Sting' poster.

I've been bidding on my first emovieposter auction (only registered with them and HA a week or so ago!) and nooo luck at all. Was going for the most screwed up and trimmed poster I've ever seen. Even went over me budget, thinking it can't go for much more, but have still been out bid :P

Onwards and upwards ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 11, 2011, 01:39:50 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 11, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
So will you be bidding Mel?  I need to know who my competition is...

No, but there are a few big-bucks collectors on this board who might want it for that relatively low price.  I think it's a big mistake to sell high value posters like that on Ebay in a random weekly auction.  Better to consign them to a major/signature auction.
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 13, 2011, 11:52:01 AM
Time to break out the popcorn... should be a good show.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350429339368&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_1959wt_1139


 pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn pcorn

(http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!CCkvWLgCGk~$(KGrHqN,!hkE0fey6Q9+BNLjp3JGiw~~_3.JPG)
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Post by: Ed_209uk on January 13, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
Any predictions for the final $$$?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 13, 2011, 12:57:50 PM
$6,800.  A dealer will pick it up, fix it up, and make a ton on resale.

She should have consigned this baby.
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 13, 2011, 01:06:23 PM
I think well north of $10k... probably teens.
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Post by: CSM on January 13, 2011, 01:58:45 PM
 :o
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Post by: wonka on January 13, 2011, 11:17:26 PM
Might go all in on this one...everyone, stay away.
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Post by: marklawd on January 15, 2011, 03:24:08 PM
The Sting poster is no longer for sale - presumably the seller agreed a private sale - I'm certain he would have got more if he had let the auction run.

Mark
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Post by: brude on January 15, 2011, 04:28:52 PM
Didn't someone on NSFGE recently acquire one of those STING posters?
I seem to remember seeing a post about it and it's scarcity...
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 17, 2011, 02:06:05 PM
That Gilda poster is fantastic... will be watching the auction with interest!
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Post by: brude on January 17, 2011, 02:12:34 PM
GILDA: $2,136 and counting. 6 bidders; 2 days left...  waiting1
Ante up fellas...
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 17, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
I need to get more popcorn pcorn

I was also wondering on the etiquette when mentioning a poster in a current auction? I'm really chilled about the whole thing if other people are going for it, just interested to know a bit more about the poster (if anyone knows!). Is there an etiquette?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 17, 2011, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on January 17, 2011, 02:24:02 PM
I need to get more popcorn pcorn

I was also wondering on the etiquette when mentioning a poster in a current auction? I'm really chilled about the whole thing if other people are going for it, just interested to know a bit more about the poster (if anyone knows!). Is there an etiquette?

You missed the big fight about that a while back.  Some people wanted no references to pending auctions.  In the end the head honchos decided not to restrict it.  I think most people (including me) only discuss pending auctions involving high price posters.
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 17, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
Cheers Mel. just trying work out how not to piss people off! I usually just chunter away on the other forums I'm on but thought it'd be worth checking here :P

I think it's probably quite a high value poster, so out of my budget, hence my interest in getting a bit more info. The auction's going to be ending in the next couple of days so I'll soon see. Might ask a few questions once it's finished.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 17, 2011, 02:50:40 PM
talk about it, who cares.. I love the competition..
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Post by: brude on January 17, 2011, 03:04:38 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on January 17, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
I think it's probably quite a high value poster, so out of my budget....

You and me, brother. I wanna see the fat cats fight it out....

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif)  x 20....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 17, 2011, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: brude on January 17, 2011, 03:04:38 PM
You and me, brother. I wanna see the fat cats fight it out....

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/100money.gif)  x 20....

that's half price Brude.. maybe even less
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Post by: brude on January 17, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
You think it'll top 10Gs with the restoration it needs?
Bruce's copy was VG-FN and LB'd for 25G.
I guess we shall see in 2 days, eh?
 pcorn
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 17, 2011, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: brude on January 17, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
You think it'll top 10Gs with the restoration it needs?
Bruce's copy was VG-FN and LB'd for 25G.
I guess we shall see in 2 days, eh?
 pcorn

restoration isn't going to be so tough. it looks like a clean rip..
if it costs more than $500 to lb & fix I'd be surprised
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Post by: CSM on January 17, 2011, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: brude on January 17, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
You think it'll top 10Gs with the restoration it needs?
Bruce's copy was VG-FN and LB'd for 25G.
I guess we shall see in 2 days, eh?
 pcorn

Bruce's was special so to speak was it not - due to the fold lines being very faint and there being no paper loss in the usual paper loss areas?
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Post by: brude on January 17, 2011, 10:42:52 PM
I believe you are correct, Chris.
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Post by: holiday on January 17, 2011, 11:51:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 17, 2011, 02:50:40 PM
talk about it, who cares.. I love the competition..
And is sure as shit not like this one would fall through the cracks and get sold for $20 if it wasn't talked about amongst us on the forum!
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 18, 2011, 03:11:34 AM
This is the one that caught my eye, Italian 1p... love it, amazing art.

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/italian_1p_peeping_tom_R60s_dupe2_CA00619_L.jpg)
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Post by: agentprovocateur on January 18, 2011, 03:25:22 AM
And I did a bit of digging in auction archives and found a few old prices for it, not super high value but still a couple of $$.
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Post by: brude on January 18, 2011, 06:31:50 AM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on January 18, 2011, 03:11:34 AM
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/italian_1p_peeping_tom_R60s_dupe2_CA00619_L.jpg)

My favorite PEEPING TOM poster.  Spectacular...
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 18, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
That's odd... I have that Peeping Tom poster and I've always thought it was an original release. I know HA has sold it as an original at least once before... 

However, Bruce has his listed as an early 60's re-release.  And I just noticed he sold the same poster a few weeks ago listed the same way.  But... it states "MCMLX" (i.e. 1960) in the fine print.  Does anyone know the full story on this?
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Post by: CSM on January 18, 2011, 09:55:48 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2072529

WOW - even after being restored, this is a treasure.  Probably worth more than the barn was!

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr156/Assgoblin/lc_frankenstein_a_JC00192_L.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 18, 2011, 10:01:16 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 18, 2011, 09:55:48 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2072529

WOW - even after being restored, this is a treasure.  Probably worth more than the barn was!

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr156/Assgoblin/lc_frankenstein_a_JC00192_L.jpg)

Restored it can be.... (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/17/nyregion/17map.html)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/Map%20restore.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 19, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: brude on January 17, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
You think it'll top 10Gs with the restoration it needs?
Bruce's copy was VG-FN and LB'd for 25G.
I guess we shall see in 2 days, eh?
 pcorn

uh-hum
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 19, 2011, 10:40:04 PM
YES, high bidder. I just wanted my name the auction history  ;D
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 20, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
I was thinking high teens, but I'm not surprised at all that it broke 20.  Its crazy when you see something like this sell in the wild (i.e. not a big auction)...
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2011, 12:45:41 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on January 20, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
I was thinking high teens, but I'm not surprised at all that it broke 20.  Its crazy when you see something like this sell in the wild (i.e. not a big auction)...

$21,387.56 for beautiful Gilda - that seems like a huge price for eBay!  Astonishing really.  I was suspecting less than $15,000.

I wonder if the buyer will actually complete the sale?
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Post by: Ari on January 20, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
buyer is a dealer it seems.
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2011, 12:53:08 AM
Quote from: Ari on January 20, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
buyer is a dealer it seems.

How do you know Ari?
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on January 20, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
I was out at 16600.

I'll have to settle for the one in my digital display :(
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Post by: erik1925 on January 23, 2011, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 20, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
buyer is a dealer it seems.


And now, only a few days after winning this (was won on 1/19/11) the same winning bidder (and dealer) has it listed back on Ebay for a cool BIN price of $33,500.00 (best offers considered, too). He's going for the quick turnaround. The last one to sell at Heritage, during their March 19, 2010 auction, sold for $28,680.00 and that includes the  19.5% BP.

Jeff
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Post by: oldposterho on January 23, 2011, 09:28:12 PM
Or you could wait 'til Feb. 15 and buy it at his auction:
http://www.natedsanders.com/ItemInfo.asp?ItemID=32330

--Peter
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Post by: CSM on January 25, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 18, 2011, 09:55:48 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2072529

WOW - even after being restored, this is a treasure.  Probably worth more than the barn was!

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr156/Assgoblin/lc_frankenstein_a_JC00192_L.jpg)

$4,608 for Franky
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 28, 2011, 02:46:27 PM
Kong press book :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40)
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Post by: CSM on January 28, 2011, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 28, 2011, 02:46:27 PM
Kong press book :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40)

I think that's a "Post-auction analysis" now?  Wonder who got it...
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Post by: brude on January 28, 2011, 09:39:07 PM
So, which one of you miscreants talked this guy into ending this auction early?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=220729652759&si=Gk6RtHitoY9fyg1%252BNFRjiWoat4M%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=220729652759&si=Gk6RtHitoY9fyg1%252BNFRjiWoat4M%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)

 moron1

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 28, 2011, 11:33:12 PM
Ted, that poster has been for sale for weeks on end
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 29, 2011, 12:46:44 AM
So why is the only remaining Frankenstein three sheet coming back to auction (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&Lot_No=85716) just a couple of years after it sold for $38,000?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/HorrorFrankensteinUniversalR-1938ThreeSheet41X81.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on January 29, 2011, 12:58:03 AM
Don't know... Maybe he can now afford a franky with two legs
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Post by: Louie D. on January 29, 2011, 09:57:09 AM
It says in the item description "Provenance: The Nicolas Cage Collection", wasn't he having some recent financial problems?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 29, 2011, 02:20:26 PM
yes Louie, but it had already been sold so Nick doesn't own it anymore
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Post by: CSM on January 29, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
Quote from: 50s on January 29, 2011, 12:58:03 AM
Don't know... Maybe he can now afford a franky with two legs

 ;D
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Post by: crowzilla on January 31, 2011, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 28, 2011, 02:46:27 PM
Kong press book :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-USA-King-Kong-Press-Book-1933-Complete-RKO-/150552300608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230d9dcc40)

Pretty strong price for what is basically a coverless copy (not to mention cut and incomplete).
Guess if you have a cover, parts of the inside and are trying to put a complete one together it is a good deal.
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Post by: Bruce on January 31, 2011, 04:36:08 PM
How can it be coverless, Sean? The auction clearly states "This is a fantastic, original RKO Pictures COMPLETE ORIGINAL UNRESTORED 1933 King Kong press book."!

 puke puke puke puke

Bruce
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Post by: crowzilla on January 31, 2011, 05:07:03 PM
Well it is certainly unrestored.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 31, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
Michael (my one time partner) should be ashamed for selling this as a complete pressbook. Essentially misrepresenting the item.  Maybe one day I'll share the story with you folks about how our partnership dissolved with my hands on his throat, as I was literally choking the life out of him.

and no, I'm not joking

now of course, we are once again real good friends
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on January 31, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
Misrepresenting an item?!  :o  That's so not like Mike Carbonaro and crew  eyeroll
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Post by: agentprovocateur on February 02, 2011, 02:02:18 PM
Got a little question, I just noticed that emovieposter is auctioning a 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' one sheet. Now I know of some films that have had their title changed to suite different markets, but wtf change the title of this from 'Philosopher's Stone' to 'Sorcerer's'!!!!

The other's I can remember are 'Leon' to 'The Professional' and wasn't 'Licence to Kill' originally going to be called "Licence Revoked' (which I think is much better)?

Be cool to know why the Harry Potter changed tho!
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Post by: guest8 on February 02, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
from what I read online (so who knows how true it is) it was to dumb the title down for us Americans .. The books were meant for "kids" so what sounds cooler.. Philosopher or Sorcerer ??? ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 02, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 02, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
from what I read online (so who knows how true it is) it was to dumb the title down for us Americans .. The books were meant for "kids" so what sounds cooler.. Philosopher or Sorcerer ??? ;)

Philosopher is an intelligent sounding word

Sorcerer is a violent sounding word

Americans like violence
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Post by: agentprovocateur on February 02, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
Thanks for that... I can understand a film like 'Leon' being changed to 'The Professional' as it's more descriptive and gives the viewer a better understanding of what they can expect to see. Buuut... how much difference is there between using 'Sorcerer' as compared to 'Philosopher', they seem so similar to me.

And on the US angle, didn't the book sell squillions in the US with 'Philosopher' in the title? Or was the book changed as well?
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Post by: guest8 on February 02, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
I believe the book was change from the very beginning .. and the movie just followed along ..
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Post by: guest8 on February 02, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 02, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Philosopher is an intelligent sounding word

Sorcerer is a violent sounding word

Americans like violence

That may be accurate .. But I see it more like .. Philosopher sounds boring .. reading books and talking and thinking blah blah blah .. Or Sorcerer .. magic and spells and danger or dragons blah blah blah .. Just my general thoughts on what they were thinking .. Id have watched both movies :)
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Post by: agentprovocateur on February 02, 2011, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 02, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Philosopher is an intelligent sounding word
Sorcerer is a violent sounding word
Americans like violence

Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 02, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
That may be accurate .. But I see it more like .. Philosopher sounds boring .. reading books and talking and thinking blah blah blah .. Or Sorcerer .. magic and spells and danger or dragons blah blah blah .. Just my general thoughts on what they were thinking .. Id have watched both movies :)

Thanks, the first post squeezed in whilst I was typing mine... was just chatting with Mrs AP about it and agree with everything above. And it makes more sense as the books title was 'Sorcerer' as well.

Cheers :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 02, 2011, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 02, 2011, 02:22:52 PM
That may be accurate .. But I see it more like .. Philosopher sounds boring .. reading books and talking and thinking blah blah blah .. Or Sorcerer .. magic and spells and danger or dragons blah blah blah .. Just my general thoughts on what they were thinking .. Id have watched both movies :)

I'm sure that is also correct.. any combination of my post + your post + some other stuff we haven't thought of to = more money at the box office
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Post by: Bruce on February 06, 2011, 01:35:52 PM
Here's a real steal (at the current price) that is perfect for anyone wanting to see the greatest posters ever, and printed on high quality paper, all shot directly from the original posters:

9a001 LOT OF 10 GREAT MOVIE POSTER BOOKS lot'90s Graven Images,Reel Art,Hollywood Posters at Auction
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2083232 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2083232)

The Reel Art and Graven Images retailed for $75 and $50 when first published, and the six Hollywood Poster books (which contained posters that auctioned for $7.5 million) retailed for $20 each.

And these ten books are absolutely as good as it gets when it comes to content and printing quality!

Bruce

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Post by: Bruce on February 08, 2011, 01:06:17 PM
Does this surprise anyone here?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2088509 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2088509)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/550/lc_aka_cassius_clay_1_JC00238_L.jpg)

It's a lobby card and it's currently at $68.

I bet it surprises those on MoPo a lot more than those here!

Bruce
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 08, 2011, 01:14:50 PM
The surprise for me was "Also known As"..i could be wrong but i`m pretty sure Mr Ali needs no other introduction,worldwide.

Stew
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Post by: agentprovocateur on February 11, 2011, 06:00:37 AM
Just saw this auction... pretty expensive but stunning art!

http://cgi.ebay.com/CASINO-ROYALE-67-SET-3-55X78-POSTERS-ITALY-/320487209200?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a9e86b8f0

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/CasinoRoyal3SH.jpg)
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/CasinoRoyal3SH_b.jpg)
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/CasinoRoyal3SH_c.jpg)

Love'em but they will never be mine.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 13, 2011, 07:42:34 AM
Star Wars rolled Birthday Cake poster at $1,000 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52366):

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Star-Wars.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 13, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
I know 80s titles are hot right now... but lets try to keep perspective.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCAPE-NEW-YORK-10XPHOTOBUSTER-CINEMA-FILM-POSTER-/250773263878?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3a63405606#ht_500wt_1156
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 13, 2011, 02:51:39 PM
Yeah.. waste of time..."cough".. if your not gonna bid Harry ..do you mind if i queue skip?  ;D

Stew
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on February 13, 2011, 03:02:12 PM
80's cinema is always ridiculously priced, however a free listing weekend always brings out the chancers.

I hate free listings weekends!
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on February 13, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Boris-Karloff-BRiDE-FRANKENSTEiN-Cinema-Quad-POSTER-/370476628518?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564220ba26 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Boris-Karloff-BRiDE-FRANKENSTEiN-Cinema-Quad-POSTER-/370476628518?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564220ba26)
Killer posters, he is another one! still you only need to get lucky once!

What makes me really chuckle is that even though you would have paid £1,000,000 for this poster, he is not going to rush delivery as he doesnt sit at home and watch Eastenders (UK Soap opera)

this one is pretty steep too
 ;D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Man-Would-King-Original-UK-Movie-Poster-/280629054773?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4156cb8d35 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Man-Would-King-Original-UK-Movie-Poster-/280629054773?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4156cb8d35)
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Post by: Cj on February 13, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
WTF are some of these people thinking?????

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 13, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
my favorite in his listings

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hammer-Horror-DIE-DIE-MY-DARLING-Cinema-POSTER-Misfits-/370476473801?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item56421e5dc9
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Post by: Bruce on February 13, 2011, 03:52:09 PM
His feedback isn't so great either:

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=killerposters&iid=370476473801&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365 (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=killerposters&iid=370476473801&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365)

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 13, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
who cares about his feedback.. he has one million pound posters.
what do you got?

 wynk
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Post by: eatbrie on February 13, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 13, 2011, 07:42:34 AM
Star Wars rolled Birthday Cake poster at $1,000 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52366):

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Star-Wars.jpg)

This is one that I will never understand.  I know it's rare and all, but for all of you who actually display posters, would you honestly put this monstrosity up on the wall?  Would you?
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 13, 2011, 06:14:03 PM
It`s not even a nice cake.. $1000 dollars? jeez...

Stew
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Post by: paul waines on February 13, 2011, 06:15:44 PM
I offered £500,000 for the Bride poster and he turned me down...
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Post by: paul waines on February 13, 2011, 06:18:57 PM
Ooops sorry I meant £50.00. The pic on the posters from Son of Frankenstein anyway. A 62 re-release, I have one for sale at £100,000 if anyone is interested. ;D
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 13, 2011, 06:20:34 PM
(cough) mail sent Paul..

Stew
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 13, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 13, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
This is one that I will never understand.  I know it's rare and all, but for all of you who actually display posters, would you honestly put this monstrosity up on the wall?  Would you?

That Star Wars Birthday Cake poster is insanely great.  All in the eye of the beholder, Mr. "I Own A Polish Coming To America" poster   :)

(http://eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Comingtoamerica2.jpg)
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 13, 2011, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 13, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
That Star Wars Birthday Cake poster is insanely great.  All in the eye of the beholder, Mr. "I Own A Polish Coming To America" poster   :)

(http://eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Comingtoamerica2.jpg)

 laugh1
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Post by: Cj on February 13, 2011, 07:36:18 PM
sad to say but I actually like the polish coming to america poster better than the SW cake.

Cj
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Post by: kovacs01 on February 13, 2011, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 13, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
I know 80s titles are hot right now... but lets try to keep perspective.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCAPE-NEW-YORK-10XPHOTOBUSTER-CINEMA-FILM-POSTER-/250773263878?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3a63405606#ht_500wt_1156

but its a "photo buster", it must be valuable.
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Post by: 50s on February 13, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on February 13, 2011, 09:39:06 PM
but its a "photo buster", it must be valuable.

Good spotting, I had glossed over that. Very funny
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on February 14, 2011, 12:32:29 AM
"Eddie , what have you done for me lately ?!"

"Eddie , I know you.....Mr. F**k You Man....f**k YOU , Eddie !"

Dexter St. Jock  :D :P
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Post by: velvet11 on February 14, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 13, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
This is one that I will never understand.  I know it's rare and all, but for all of you who actually display posters, would you honestly put this monstrosity up on the wall?  Would you?

It's funny you say that because I actually have that poster hanging. I'm looking at it right now! I didn't pay near that much, though; more like $300 about 10 years ago.

A lot of the popularity of that poster (and hence the value) comes from the cross-over appeal to Star Wars toy collectors. I spent many years collecting toys, so that poster was a natural for me.

 ron
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Post by: Zorba on February 14, 2011, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: velvet11 on February 14, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
It's funny you say that because I actually have that poster hanging. I'm looking at it right now! I didn't pay near that much, though; more like $300 about 10 years ago.

More power to you. To each his own.

As Im NOT a Star Wars fan I wouldnt hang the cake but I hang up quite a few posters cats in here would refer to as monstrosities every few weeks when I rotate posters.  :P 8)
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Post by: wonka on February 15, 2011, 02:39:57 PM
This poster is blowing my mind right now, I love it.  It's just a bit over my price range on it though...if it were $13.5k, then I would be in business.

http://cgi.ebay.com/EX-LADY-Original-Movie-Poster-14X36-BETTE-DAVIS-/250773225226?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a633fbf0a (http://cgi.ebay.com/EX-LADY-Original-Movie-Poster-14X36-BETTE-DAVIS-/250773225226?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a633fbf0a)
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 15, 2011, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 15, 2011, 02:39:57 PM
This poster is blowing my mind right now, I love it.  It's just a bit over my price range on it though...if it were $13.5k, then I would be in business.

http://cgi.ebay.com/EX-LADY-Original-Movie-Poster-14X36-BETTE-DAVIS-/250773225226?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a633fbf0a (http://cgi.ebay.com/EX-LADY-Original-Movie-Poster-14X36-BETTE-DAVIS-/250773225226?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a633fbf0a)


They have a few nice items, the Mind Reader half sheet and Back To Nature are great as well.

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Post by: Ogami_Itto on February 15, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
the Ex lady is amazing! that is a hell of a price tag though.

they do have some good ones. your right about back to nature and mind reader. i like the mind reader insert a lot too.

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Post by: wonka on February 17, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
The Uber-Matte Strikes Back!

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1977-STYLE-C-/300527462456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8d52838 (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1977-STYLE-C-/300527462456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8d52838)

This is hilarious...what could they be hiding? Hmmm...

Maybe they are the kind of folks who don't like subtitles in movies...just want to stare at the pretty pictures.  ;)
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Post by: Bruce on February 17, 2011, 09:48:19 PM
These are truly beyond rare!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/550/8x10_fear_and_desire_set_of_3_NZ01201_L.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2099578 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2099578)

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
you know, I believe Kubrick did all the still photography early in his career.. and the prices they sold for reflect something big
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Post by: eatbrie on February 18, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
you know, I believe Kubrick did all the still photography early in his career.. and the prices they sold for reflect something big

Really?  $525?  For stills that could have been re-printed any subsequent years?  I'm baffled.

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Post by: Louie D. on February 18, 2011, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2011, 11:53:58 PM
you know, I believe Kubrick did all the still photography early in his career.. and the prices they sold for reflect something big

He shot a bunch of magazine work in his early days:

http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-Kubrick-Shadows-Rainer-Crone/dp/0714844381/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298008052&sr=1-4
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 18, 2011, 03:43:15 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 18, 2011, 12:31:08 AM
Really?  $525?  For stills that could have been re-printed any subsequent years?  I'm baffled.

Thierry, if you know stills and understand the paper etc, you know what originals are and what re-issues are and what restrikes are as well. Anyone can tell what a dupe is with just a little knowledge.

I have no doubt that the still Bruce sold are from the 1950s, but because the title is "Stanley Kubricks...." I doubt they are from the original release. They could even be as late as early 60s, but no later than that

also, seeing as Kubrick most likely did the photography, these stills are valued more for that reason than any other
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Post by: CSM on February 21, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
Quote from: velvet11 on February 14, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
It's funny you say that because I actually have that poster hanging. I'm looking at it right now! I didn't pay near that much, though; more like $300 about 10 years ago.

A lot of the popularity of that poster (and hence the value) comes from the cross-over appeal to Star Wars toy collectors. I spent many years collecting toys, so that poster was a natural for me.

 ron

Exactly (about the toys I mean).
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 27, 2011, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 17, 2011, 11:15:18 AM
The Uber-Matte Strikes Back!

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1977-STYLE-C-/300527462456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8d52838 (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1977-STYLE-C-/300527462456?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8d52838)

This is hilarious...what could they be hiding? Hmmm...

Maybe they are the kind of folks who don't like subtitles in movies...just want to stare at the pretty pictures.  ;)

Too classic not to post:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Wars.png)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 01, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
I wrote to this seller and asked about why the poster was covered by so much of the matte. Here was her reply to me:

yes i am very sorry about that it would of been a lot better if i would of taken the photo out of the frame, but if you like i can send you a picture with it out so you can check out the whole thing.
thanks for your interest

sara


i asked her to email me a pic of the poster out of the frame.. will see if she follows thru.

Jeff
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 01, 2011, 09:48:21 PM
A Lucky Strike Pulp Fiction has been up for auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-Lucky-Strike-Teaser-Original-1sheet-Poster-/230592392026) for a couple of weeks on Ebay.  The poster appears legit but the "hidden reserve" is bogus.  Might still be worth a shot if you're willing to play the seller's reserve game.  I paid $750 for mine and it's auctioned for $1500+ on the independent auction sites.
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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on March 02, 2011, 12:12:37 AM
I personally love the Star Wars cake poster. I'm really not a very big Star Wars fan either. I think it's very unique and commemorative and of course very rare. Aren't those three things all you could want in a collectible piece of memorabilia?
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on March 02, 2011, 06:01:09 AM
I kinda dig the SW cake 1sh in a kitsch way , its cute....wouldnt pay a ton for it though :)
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Post by: Thomsen on March 02, 2011, 09:43:54 AM
I can definitely see the appeal it would have for someone into SW toys. I used to have a lot of that myself. But frankly, if I got it today I would probably sell it off. I think it speaks more to the completist, the toy collector, or the serious SW fan than a casual fan like me. There's a ton of other SW posters I would rather own based on the artwork alone before this.
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Post by: brude on March 02, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Thomsen on March 02, 2011, 09:43:54 AM
I can definitely see the appeal it would have for someone into SW toys. I used to have a lot of that myself. But frankly, if I got it today I would probably sell it off. I think it speaks more to the completist, the toy collector, or the serious SW fan than a casual fan like me. There's a ton of other SW posters I would rather own based on the artwork alone before this.

+1  wynk
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Post by: paul waines on March 02, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
+2, well said.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 02, 2011, 03:52:54 PM
there's a ton of posters I would rather have than ANY Star Wars poster.
I have absolutely no SW posters in any form in my collection and I have even less interest than that in having any in the future. Of course, I recognize the "I'm not under 40" bit colors that interest

Like Jens said, If I collected SW toys, it would be a fit.. other than that, that poster is butt ugly
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2011, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 01, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
I wrote to this seller and asked about why the poster was covered by so much of the matte. Here was her reply to me:

yes i am very sorry about that it would of been a lot better if i would of taken the photo out of the frame, but if you like i can send you a picture with it out so you can check out the whole thing.
thanks for your interest

sara


i asked her to email me a pic of the poster out of the frame.. will see if she follows thru.

Jeff



What a surprise... I never received any additional pics of the poster removed from the frame..  :'(

Jeff
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 06, 2011, 11:23:01 PM
Back on again, but at ONLY £5,000 ... Still too much.

VERY RARE JAMES BOND / ROGER MOORE TEASER POSTER (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270716579689&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_739wt_1139)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 08, 2011, 04:21:29 AM

I know you fellers like this stuff, so here is one for whomever the best man is

LOST IN TRANSLATION Original Japanese Chirashi

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOST-TRANSLATION-Original-Japanese-Chirashi-/300534275827?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f93d1ef3
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
Swedish, first release poster for FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLFMAN for auction on ebay. This seller was the high bidder for this very poster, during Heritage's January 9, 2011 auction and won it for $537.75 (inc BP). He's now got it listed with an opening bid of $1499.00. The auction ends in 2 days. A potential nice profit, in one month's time.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360349117074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f2%2f7%2f7%2f6277326.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)

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Post by: CSM on March 08, 2011, 04:13:59 PM
I suppose the key word is "potential" given that noone has bid and is unlikely to bid.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2011, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 08, 2011, 04:13:59 PM
I suppose the key word is "potential" given that noone has bid and is unlikely to bid.

Indeed. That word is key, as i don't think it will be bid on, either.

Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2011, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
Swedish, first release poster for FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLFMAN for auction on ebay. This seller was the high bidder for this very poster, during Heritage's January 9, 2011 auction and won it for $537.75 (inc BP). He's now got it listed with an opening bid of $1499.00. The auction ends in 2 days. A potential nice profit, in one month's time.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360349117074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f2%2f7%2f7%2f6277326.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)




Update... when this poster didnt have a taker at the $1499.00 price, the seller relisted it (at present) for $2,100.00.. huh?   wow1


Jeff
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Post by: 50s on March 12, 2011, 08:59:26 PM
Had a friend, who listed his car, with no takers, dropped the price gradually, still no takers, then as soon as he raised the price, buyers swooped. ie could be a scare tactic?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2011, 10:04:52 PM
Got the Heritage signature auction catalog today.  I'm not much into print media today, but it does help you spot stuff you would miss on-line. Anyway, pretty astounding stuff - here are some of my favorites from the first two sessions, all expected to go for big bucks, some are relatively obscure, some well-known:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-21.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-20.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-19.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-18.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-17.jpg)

Mysterious Island (24 sheet)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-16.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-15.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-14.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-13.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-12.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-11.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-10.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-9.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-8.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-7.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-6.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-5.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-4-1.jpg)

Creature 6S:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-3-1.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-2-2.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-1-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 12, 2011, 10:34:52 PM
That 'Get Carter' One Sheet, though nowhere near the worth of some of the other gear, is sure to sell for a fair bit IMO.
Very nice.
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Post by: CSM on March 12, 2011, 11:22:51 PM
I would literally KILL for that Houdini poster!

 piratemel
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 13, 2011, 04:51:24 AM
And many of the others Chris.

Nice selection Mel. Shame that Lotto never came up. :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 15, 2011, 10:14:21 PM
What the?  Amazing that someone would defile a poster, especially one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/007-James-Bond-Goldfinger-1964-movie-poster-40x60-/180639960075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0efb0c0b).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 15, 2011, 10:18:40 PM
Ha!  I saw that when browsing eBay earlier.  At least it is sun faded... that way I didn't get bent out of shape about it.  I just chuckled... [shakes cane] DAMN KIDS!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 15, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 15, 2011, 10:18:40 PM
Ha!  I saw that when browsing eBay earlier.  At least it is sun faded... that way I didn't get bent out of shape about it.  I just chuckled... [shakes cane] DAMN KIDS!!!

 laugh1  Yep.  Them darn kids, I tell ya what.  The only poster I've seen like that and hopefully I'll never see another one of that caliber like that.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 15, 2011, 10:30:09 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 15, 2011, 10:14:21 PM
What the?  Amazing that someone would defile a poster, especially one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/007-James-Bond-Goldfinger-1964-movie-poster-40x60-/180639960075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0efb0c0b).

I think it's quite an improvement actually.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2011, 10:30:09 PM
I think it's quite an improvement actually.

The crafted moustache does add an air of mystery to him, that's for sure.
 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 16, 2011, 07:20:04 AM
I once had an Elvis inset (I believe from Love Me Tender) where there were lipstick kisses on the bottom of the poster, and someone had scrawled "I love you".

It did NOT lower the selling price, as the buyer thought it was a cool addition, as I did (of course, it could never increase the price, because something like this could easily be faked).

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 06:26:39 PM
This auction is currently running on ebay:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290544394019&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT , for an ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN OS. I have read on NSF the threads that indicated that those posters showing no smoke rising from the car in her hand were not the genuine. Is this the case? Or were some print runs done sans smoke? The color of the car in her hand is also a lighter blue on the auction piece.

The seller states: "This very rare original 27 X 41 printed in USA poster but was made for foreign issue, to a english speaking country."

Thoughts?

Auction Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqZ,!m!E1FywGKDoBNe7FWBBww~~_12.JPG)

vs:

One Sheet
(http://images.moviepostershop.com/attack-of-the-50-foot-woman-movie-poster-1020143952.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
The second image is not good for comparative purposes (other than for the lack of smoke) as the colours have obviously been enhanced...

I have no definitive opinion on the authenticity of the one up for auction BUT I will say the lack of smoke would be a BIG concern for me!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 06:26:39 PM
The seller states:"This very rare original 27 X 41 printed in USA poster but was made for foreign issue, to a english speaking country." Thoughts?

The seller does say  (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290544394019)it has "the correct blue stamping on the back that said '1 sht ATTACK 50 FOOT WOMEN.'"

I'm assuming that he's referencing the NSS stamp, which would increase the odds it's legit.

Note also that the 40x60 version of the poster - indisputably legit - lacks the smoke:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Attack.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2011, 08:37:55 PM
Hmmm...the restoration invoice is a tactic I have not seen employed before...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 16, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
The seller does say  (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290544394019)it has "the correct blue stamping on the back that said '1 sht ATTACK 50 FOOT WOMEN.'"

I'm assuming that he's referencing the NSS stamp, which would increase the odds it's legit.

Of course, now that it is linen backed we can't see whether the stamp actually exists or not...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
The 40x60 comparison doesn't lend credence, as that size was printed without the smoke rising from the car, along with a B/W image. Other comparable OS must be looked at.

An image with no color enhancement:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f4%2f7%2f7%2f8%2f4778179.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)

Here is the cover of the book, written about artist, Reynold Brown. The authors utilized and had access to original drawings and paintings, as well:


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512JlClfgLL._SS500_.jpg)

The seller also points out and shows an image from a Sotheby's catalogue, indicating that this "smokeless" poster was made for the international market. I wanted to see if others, in the know, here in the forum knew of this, too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 09:49:47 PM
And on close inspection, the ebay poster does not have printer's registration marks. Seems curious.

The NSS number and info isnt present on the ebay copy, either, in the lower right border area.

Ebay example-lower right corner:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5533136791_842e1249ce.jpg)


Heritage example-lower right corner:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5533136815_8080fd42ac.jpg)

And again, I am just asking questions about differences. I'm not saying the ebay poster isn't what the seller says it is.  ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
The 40x60 comparison doesn't lend credence, as that size was printed without the smoke rising from the car, along with a B/W image.

Your logic escapes me. The point is that the studio printed some versions of the poster without the smoke. Furthermore, other than the lack of smoke and color scheme the 40x60 is otherwise identical to the US OS.

Therefore, it follows that the studio MAY have printed a version of the OS without the smoke as well. It's not conclusive, just a consideration.

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Compare3.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
I was basing my logic on the comparison of posters of the same size. It is common knowledge that other sizes can have differences in the artwork, even if slight. As i mentioned in my first post, I was recalling some info i had read on NSF some time ago about this issue and was inquiring here.

It is very likely that the international one sheet was smokeless.

I found an image of the UK quad. The car looks to be smokeless here, too.

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA090428/550/british_quad_attack_of_the_50_ft_woman_SA00194_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 16, 2011, 11:16:38 PM
Did they even have unique international 1-sheets back in the 50s?  The oldest ones I know of are from the mid-late 60s... Before that I know of many examples of normal US 1-sheets showing up in other international markets (ask Wim about the Netherlands), but not unique posters.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Your logic escapes me.

As a side note -- and speaking of logic escaping one, I am still unclear about the link you posted, in which you claim to show an "UNRELEASED" 3 sheet for GOLDFINGER. The link goes to an image with no further information about it. It was later shown that this "poster" was simply cobbled together with images from other poster sources and photoshopped together. For the sake of all newbies out there, who might use this board to learn about posters, what was the purpose of posting that link without some kind of caveat or disclaimer accompanying the image, explaining that it was not genuine or even physically real?

When asked previously, no reply was forthcoming.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 17, 2011, 12:51:03 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 11:56:39 PM
For the sake of all newbies out there, what would be the purpose of posting that link without some kind of caveat or disclaimer above or below that image, indicating it was not genuine or even physically real?

When asked previously, no reply was forthcoming.

Good point.
What is the story behind the bogus image?
Without a disclaimer of some sort, it makes other images posted here suspect.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 07:03:49 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 11:56:39 PM
As a side note -- and speaking of logic escaping one, I am still unclear about the link you posted, in which you claim to show an "UNRELEASED" 3 sheet for GOLDFINGER. The link goes to an image with no further information about it. It was later shown that this "poster" was simply cobbled together with images from other poster sources and photoshopped together. For the sake of all newbies out there, who might use this board to learn about posters, what was the purpose of posting that link without some kind of caveat or disclaimer accompanying the image, explaining that it was not genuine or even physically real?

When asked previously, no reply was forthcoming.

That was a post obviously made in jest in the HITCG thread, the board's not-particularly-serious smut thread. I'm flummoxed anyone took that seriously for a second. In all likelihood only two or three people took it seriously and everyone else straying into that den of iniquity instantly recognized it as a not-so-serious post. But some ingenious (or perhaps ridiculous) detective work - including an X-ray! - later "showed" it to be fake!  

But anyway I'm glad you two are very concerned for the "sake of the newbies" hanging out in the smut thread!  I'll be sure to make all proper "disclaimers" there in the future, lest they be led astray.

And since you are insinuating that I've somehow posted a photoshopped Attack poster, perhaps you should check here (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7014&Lot_No=89013). Of course, you could have easily found that 40x60 poster yourself before you made the prior posts, couldn't you?  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2011, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 07:03:49 AM
That was a post obviously made in jest in the HITCG thread, the board's not-particularly-serious smut thread. I'm flummoxed anyone took that seriously for a second. In all likelihood only two or three people took it seriously and everyone else straying into that den of iniquity instantly recognized it as a not-so-serious post. But some ingenious (or perhaps ridiculous) detective work - including an X-ray! - later "showed" it to be fake!  

But anyway I'm glad you two are very concerned for the "sake of the newbies" hanging out in the smut thread!  I'll be sure to make all proper "disclaimers" there in the future, lest they be led astray.

And since you are insinuating that I've somehow posted a photoshopped Attack poster, perhaps you should check here (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7014&Lot_No=89013). Of course, you could have easily found that 40x60 poster yourself before you made the prior posts, couldn't you?  


First, I did not hint at or insinuate that there was any photoshopping done on the 40x60 ATTACK poster by anyone.  I located and looked at the image on Heritage before replying here. Please go back and read my response. I said that posters of other sizes have utilized the same artwork, sometimes with subtle changes done to it. Case in point: I followed by posting an additional response and an image of the ATTACK UK quad. This image is also smokeless, further bolstering my previous comment.

If you choose to be flummoxed, that is your choice. The initial GOLDFINGER query was a simple question initially and all that was needed was a simple response. Since no answer was forthcoming, it certainly raised questions in other people's minds. If a fake poster had been posted to the board, without explanation, by someone else, I am sure there would have been questions or comments put forth by you and others.

To inquire makes sound, common sense, in a hobby littered with reproes, re-strikes and bootlegs.



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mahmudf on March 17, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 09:49:47 PM
And on close inspection, the ebay poster does not have printer's registration marks. Seems curious.

The NSS number and info isnt present on the ebay copy, either, in the lower right border area.

Ebay example-lower right corner:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5533136791_842e1249ce.jpg)


Heritage example-lower right corner:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5533136815_8080fd42ac.jpg)

And again, I am just asking questions about differences. I'm not saying the ebay poster isn't what the seller says it is.  ;D




I got a Man With the Golden Arm 1 sheet a couple of years ago which i believe is an International 1 sheet, it also doesnt have the markings or NSS number, I started a thread on NSFGE and the consensus was that it was genuine. It was pretty beat up (I did only pay $25 for it) so I sent it Dario who agreed that it was real

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/mahmudf/DSC03098.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/mahmudf/DSC03096.jpg)

after restoration

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii155/mahmudf/DSC04459.jpg)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 17, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 16, 2011, 11:16:38 PM
Did they even have unique international 1-sheets back in the 50s?  The oldest ones I know of are from the mid-late 60s... Before that I know of many examples of normal US 1-sheets showing up in other international markets (ask Wim about the Netherlands), but not unique posters.

I remember that thread on NSFGE...

And to correct my own statement above... I forgot that I actually have an international 1-sheet with unique art from 1960!  Roman Holiday was re-release internationally in 1960 and in the US in 1962.  IMO, the R60 int'l 1-sheet is one of the best posters for the film... it is the only one with a good shot of the infamous Vespa ride.

(http://trueclassics.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/roman_holiday.jpg)



On a side note, I love this TCM poster I just found!

(http://d30opm7hsgivgh.cloudfront.net/upload/988658_d5BBAhzI_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 17, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 16, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
I was basing my logic on the comparison of posters of the same size. It is common knowledge that other sizes can have differences in the artwork, even if slight. As i mentioned in my first post, I was recalling some info i had read on NSF some time ago about this issue and was inquiring here.

It is very likely that the international one sheet was smokeless.

I found an image of the UK quad. The car looks to be smokeless here, too.

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA090428/550/british_quad_attack_of_the_50_ft_woman_SA00194_L.jpg)


Jeff,  That Quad is a re-release...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2011, 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 17, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
Jeff,  That Quad is a re-release...

Thanks, Paul. Do you have the original release quad, by any chance?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 05:04:15 PM
The 1961 re-release for Vertigo has an international version (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=7019&Lot_No=85090):

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5Bfile%3Aimages%2Finetpub%2Fnewnames%2F300%2F3%2F9%2F5%2F1%2F3951706.jpg%5D%2Ccontinueonerror%5Btrue%5D&scale=size%5B450x2000%5D%2Coptions%5Blimit%5D&source=url%5Bfile%3Aimages%2Finetpub%2Fwebuse%2Fno_image_available.gif%5D%2Cif%5B(%27global.source.error%27)%5D&sink=preservemd%5Btrue%5D)

The S2 Art Group "recreated" poster also has the smoke (http://www.jackgallery.com/page.php?page=product&type=collection&set=&ID=&sortBy=&artistID=&productTypeID=1&collectionID=8&PGNUM=2&artworkID=119&subtype=), so it's not one of those.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 17, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 17, 2011, 05:00:42 PM
Thanks, Paul. Do you have the original release quad, by any chance?



Unfortunately not Jeff, but as far as I can remember it's the same style only with colour art work, and not just a two colour copy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
Also, the smoke is thick and white on the three sheet but black and thin on the one sheet (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&Ns=Price|1&N=54+790+231+&Ntt=attack+50+foot+woman).  Will post pics later.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
The appearance of the smoke varies on the OS, the insert and the 3 sheet. Subtle differences in the artwork, as previously mentioned:

OS Smoke:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5536060808_081d642397.jpg)

Insert Smoke:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5535482993_415bdf561a.jpg)

3-Sheet Smoke:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5535483025_2be12e13e7_z.jpg)


And she's smokin!!    sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 17, 2011, 07:23:06 PM
It's funny...I saw this 50FT WOMAN movie 100 times on TV as a kid...and I still can't get over how nice a poster it is for such a BAD movie.
It should be in our Bad movie Cool poster thread...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 17, 2011, 05:21:36 PM
Also, the smoke is thick and white on the three sheet but black and thin on the one sheet (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&Ns=Price|1&N=54+790+231+&Ntt=attack+50+foot+woman).  Will post pics later.

The image at issue (the alleged US international):

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Attack-for.png)

I see that Erik has also posted pics in the interim but I'll add these as well - hair color also changes, banner is dramatically different:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/50FT-WOMAN.jpg)

The S2 Art Group re-creation:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/attack-s2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 18, 2011, 02:03:57 AM
Mahmud, that is an awesome restoration job on your The Man With the Golden Arm.

Nice Vespa posters Harry, but I must say that if the guys on American Chopper ever make a movie and put Mikey Tuttle on the poster riding a Vespa, that would be the ultimate Vespa poster.  :D

Good work on placing those images side by side, Mel.  Interesting to see how they slightly changed the different formats.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on March 18, 2011, 12:59:29 PM
An International one-sheet makes sense for someone with a large worldwide following like Hitchcock, or an Academy Award winner like Roman Holiday from a major studio, but it is quite rare for a 50s movie period, and for a shlocky film like Attack of the 50ft Woman that likely got no overseas distribution outside of the UK would be strange indeed.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mahmudf on March 18, 2011, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 18, 2011, 02:03:57 AM
Mahmud, that is an awesome restoration job on your The Man With the Golden Arm.

Nice Vespa posters Harry, but I must say that if the guys on American Chopper ever make a movie and put Mikey Tuttle on the poster riding a Vespa, that would be the ultimate Vespa poster.  :D

Good work on placing those images side by side, Mel.  Interesting to see how they slightly changed the different formats.



thanks Neo it was an easy job there was no paper loss it just needed putting back together
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2011, 03:14:08 PM
I dug and found some further 50 FOOT information. The ebay seller indicates and shows that another smokeless copy of the ATTACK poster was auctioned in 1998, at Sotheby's. While I could not find what it sold for in that year, I did find that the same copy of this poster was auctioned and sold on June 26, 2010 by Julien's Auctions in their Hollywood Legends #2 auction. Read the Provenance in the image below.

As most know, the US one sheet for this title can demand a premium, as it is highly sought after. It has sold most recently (at Heritage) for $8365.00 in July 2010 and $6872.00 in July 2009. (in March 2008, it sold for $15,535.00, with varying bids in other years, as well).

The Sotheby's poster (Lot 228 from the 1998 auction), sold at Julien's, (Lot 1214) last June, for $750.00. It had an estimated value of $1500-3,000.00, with an start bid of $750.00. It went no further. With that being said, I am genuinely curious what it is about this version that gives it such a low estimated value and why it realized such a low winning bid last year. And with under one day left on the ebay copy, the high bid still stands at only $510.00. The bid could very well jump drastically in the last 2 minutes, too.

It's all very interesting, to say the least.

Here are the Sotheby's/Julien copy (their photo made the poster appear very washed out- maybe it is?) and also the lot page from the site:

(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/7000/0/lot7000.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5537502305_f40c3b91ea_b.jpg)
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Post by: brude on March 18, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
Nice research, Jeff.
I'll bet that Ebay copy goes for a lot higher by the end.
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Post by: CSM on March 18, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
Great digging Jeff!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 18, 2011, 12:59:29 PM
An International one-sheet makes sense for someone with a large worldwide following like Hitchcock, or an Academy Award winner like Roman Holiday from a major studio, but it is quite rare for a 50s movie period, and for a shlocky film like Attack of the 50ft Woman that likely got no overseas distribution outside of the UK would be strange indeed.



I wrote and asked Ed Poole AT LAMP about this issue, with regard to this film and time period. He wrote back:

"You are asking a very in depth and subjective question that depends on the title and requires a lot of research.

Defining 'international'- A poster created in one country for use to publicize their film in another country. We have records of internationals dating back to around 1906. There is even some possibility of U.S. 'Trust' distributors being the originators of the first vertical quads in England. Before 1910, French distributors like Gaumont and Melies sent Thierry hates "French Grande" posters to their offices in New York for use here in the U.S.

In the time period that you're looking at, internationals were fairly common. Some were marked to tell easily and some weren't. We have numerous on file. For example, take the international poster for the 1957 Jet Pilot. Below the RKO tag it shows it has been distributed by Universal International. NSS handled the printing and shipping and were 'supposed' to take their NSS number and property tag off, but forgot. In a completely different direction, take a look at Buccaneer from 1958 and you will see an international 3 sheet and lobby card set issued that were different colors than the U.S. material.

During that time period when NSS was so dominant, they started stamping the back of the poster with 'FOR' (for FOREIGN) on the posters that were printed for shipment overseas.

Most titles fall under general guidelines for documentation, but there are massive amounts of exceptions. One of the exceptions is an area that seems to be a little misunderstood, which is 'studio issues'. NSS was paid a royalty for whatever services they provided. When studios wanted to promote a film in advance outside of NSS distribution, posters were printed for them to hand out directly to theater managers or for whatever promotion they had planned. Sometimes these were printed by NSS with the property tag removed (usually leaving the NSS number for identification) and sometimes they were printed by alternate printers. A good example of this would be Back to the Future.

So, you usually have to scrutinize the poster for markings and if they're not specific enough, then more digging is necessary on that specific title."

A public thanks to Ed and LAMP for this information. They are an invaluable source of data and images.   cheers


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Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 18, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
Ah, LAMP and Ed never cease to amaze me.
Good stuff, Jeff.  sm1
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Post by: CJ138 on March 18, 2011, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 18, 2011, 04:44:28 PM

Most titles fall under general guidelines for documentation, but there are massive amounts of exceptions. One of the exceptions is an area that seems to be a little misunderstood, which is 'studio issues'. NSS was paid a royalty for whatever services they provided. When studios wanted to promote a film in advance outside of NSS distribution, posters were printed for them to hand out directly to theater managers or for whatever promotion they had planned. Sometimes these were printed by NSS with the property tag removed (usually leaving the NSS number for identification) and sometimes they were printed by alternate printers. A good example of this would be Back to the Future.

Big Trouble In Little China is another example I know of.
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Post by: eatbrie on March 18, 2011, 07:46:44 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 18, 2011, 04:44:28 PM

Most titles fall under general guidelines for documentation, but there are massive amounts of exceptions. One of the exceptions is an area that seems to be a little misunderstood, which is 'studio issues'. NSS was paid a royalty for whatever services they provided. When studios wanted to promote a film in advance outside of NSS distribution, posters were printed for them to hand out directly to theater managers or for whatever promotion they had planned. Sometimes these were printed by NSS with the property tag removed (usually leaving the NSS number for identification) and sometimes they were printed by alternate printers. A good example of this would be Back to the Future.


Interesting topic.  So Erik, as much as I understand the studios going above NSS's head to divert their marketing schemes, will would the exact same poster be printed jointly by the studios and the NSS?  Was the NSS not printing enough, too expensive?  Think BTTF, ESB and so many other titles...

T
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 18, 2011, 03:14:08 PM
I dug and found some further 50 FOOT information. The ebay seller indicates and shows that another smokeless copy of the ATTACK poster was auctioned in 1998, at Sotheby's. While I could not find what it sold for in that year, I did find that the same copy of this poster was auctioned and sold on June 26, 2010 by Julien's Auctions in their Hollywood Legends #2 auction. Read the Provenance in the image below.

As most know, the US one sheet for this title can demand a premium, as it is highly sought after. It has sold most recently (at Heritage) for $8365.00 in July 2010 and $6872.00 in July 2009. (in March 2008, it sold for $15,535.00, with varying bids in other years, as well).

The Sotheby's poster (Lot 228 from the 1998 auction), sold at Julien's, (Lot 1214) last June, for $750.00. It had an estimated value of $1500-3,000.00, with an start bid of $750.00. It went no further. With that being said, I am genuinely curious what it is about this version that gives it such a low estimated value and why it realized such a low winning bid last year. And with under one day left on the ebay copy, the high bid still stands at only $510.00. The bid could very well jump drastically in the last 2 minutes, too.

It's all very interesting, to say the least.

Here are the Sotheby's/Julien copy (their photo made the poster appear very washed out- maybe it is?) and also the lot page from the site:

(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/7000/0/lot7000.jpg)


ATTACK's high winning bid on ebay, today was $799.00


Jeff
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Post by: CSM on March 19, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
Did you take the plunge Jeff?
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
No Chris. I actually wrote the seller yesterday and asked if there was any of the Allied Artists copyright info on the lower left border (it exists there on the standard US one sheet). He said the area on his poster was blank.  :-\

International OS or whatever this is.. I opted to not bite.  ;)

Jeff
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Post by: CSM on March 19, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 19, 2011, 04:26:44 PM
No Chris. I actually wrote the seller yesterday and asked if there was any of the Allied Artists copyright info on the lower left border (it exists there on the standard US one sheet). He said the area on his poster was blank.  :-\

International OS or whatever this is.. I opted to not bite.  ;)

Jeff

Probably a wise choice.  The colours look somewhat washed out although not as bad as the Julien copy...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 20, 2011, 06:26:39 PM
With the double bill thread a hot topic.. this is currently running on ebay.. for the double bill for ONE MILLION YEARS BC and SHE (UK quad). Ends in 3 hours 45 min:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Raquel-Welch-ONE-MILLION-YEARS-BC-SHE-UK-Quad-poster-/130496806908?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e62373ffc

(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/dlp1789/bcshequad.jpg)
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 20, 2011, 07:21:07 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 20, 2011, 06:26:39 PM
With the double bill thread a hot topic.. this is currently running on ebay.. for the double bill for ONE MILLION YEARS BC and SHE (UK quad). Ends in 3 hours 45 min

 happy1
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Post by: paul waines on March 21, 2011, 01:19:30 PM
You can pick these up rolled if your patient enough, and with out the chunk missing from the bottom.
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Post by: Bruce on March 21, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad - UF; origin   G-VG   $335.00   09/09/2010
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad - UF; origin   Fn   $490.00   04/01/2010
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad - UF; origin   VG   $350.00   11/05/2009
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad - FF; origin   VG-Fn   $261.00   10/13/2009
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad - FF; origin   VG-Fn   $343.00   05/07/2009
ONE MILLION YEARS B.C./SHE   1960   British quad   VG   $271.00   08/19/2003
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 21, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
Do you have the dates wrong Bruce, this double is from 1968...
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Post by: brude on March 21, 2011, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 21, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
Do you have the dates wrong Bruce, this double is from 1968...

Yes, these films were nary a thought in anyone's noggin til at least 1965 (She) and 1966 (BC)...
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Post by: Ari on March 21, 2011, 08:30:09 PM
I've had a number of these over the years, its a nice poster.
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Post by: Bruce on March 21, 2011, 08:59:02 PM
I don't know where that 1960 came from, but I will be sure to fix it tomorrow.

Thanks for pointing it out!

Bruce
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Post by: crowzilla on March 21, 2011, 10:07:26 PM
Within a couple of hours this shot up to about where i thought it would end at.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKn!E1S)vR130BNh-N3lO-!~~0_3.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com/REVENGE-CREATURE-Lobby-Card-4-Black-Lagoon-/320674768145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4a511 (http://cgi.ebay.com/REVENGE-CREATURE-Lobby-Card-4-Black-Lagoon-/320674768145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4a511)
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Post by: CSM on March 21, 2011, 10:11:46 PM
But the ultimate question is Sean if you feel comfortable selling to or letting the auction end with a newly registered bidder with 3 feedback as it stands now?
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Post by: crowzilla on March 21, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
I didn't, but he actually just sent me an email so I know who it is now.  Long time hobbyist, who i have no idea why he decided to get a new ID, but it certainly makes me feel better.
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Post by: oldposterho on March 21, 2011, 10:56:28 PM
Freakin' dealers and auctioneers, all have there big sales at the same time.   :P

This one hurts, that's some really, really nice stuff. 

Methinks Heritage could have a big day on a couple of items, seems like there are some war-chests being filled, (or will soon be filled).

--Peter
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Post by: brude on March 21, 2011, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 21, 2011, 10:07:26 PM
Within a couple of hours this shot up to about where i thought it would end at.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKn!E1S)vR130BNh-N3lO-!~~0_3.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com/REVENGE-CREATURE-Lobby-Card-4-Black-Lagoon-/320674768145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4a511 (http://cgi.ebay.com/REVENGE-CREATURE-Lobby-Card-4-Black-Lagoon-/320674768145?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4a511)

To quote El Brendel..."Yumpin' Yiminy."
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Post by: 50s on March 22, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Monsters should not wear lipstick... They are less scary, unless of course they look like your mother-in-law...
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Post by: brude on March 22, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
Love the Gill Man, but I wish I could get in the game on this one, Sean...wow, what a card...

http://cgi.ebay.com/FRANKENSTEIN-Lobby-Card-Karloff-Frye-Universal-Horror-/320674763134?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4917e (http://cgi.ebay.com/FRANKENSTEIN-Lobby-Card-Karloff-Frye-Universal-Horror-/320674763134?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4917e)

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Post by: Harry Caul on March 22, 2011, 12:43:22 AM
Yeah, Platinum Posters has some crazy stuff listed right now...

Freaks title card
http://cgi.ebay.com/FREAKS-Title-Card-Circus-Sideshow-Horror-Cult-Classic-/320674764174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b4958e#ht_826wt_1139

Dracula's Daughter insert
http://cgi.ebay.com/DRACULAS-DAUGHTER-Insert-Universal-Horror-Classic-/320674763710?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b493be#ht_931wt_1139

Forbidden Planet 3-sheet
http://cgi.ebay.com/FORBIDDEN-PLANET-Three-Sheet-UNRESTORED-Robby-Robot-/320674762443?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa9b48ecb#ht_1451wt_1139

and on and on...
http://shop.ebay.com/platinumposters/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
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Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2011, 03:02:29 AM
Very cool pieces, Sean. That 1949-R FREAKS card looks almost mint!   happy1

Jeff
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Post by: CSM on March 22, 2011, 11:01:36 AM
Yep - that's a great selection!
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Post by: paul waines on March 22, 2011, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 22, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Monsters should not wear lipstick... They are less scary, unless of course they look like your mother-in-law...



(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/IMG_0179.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on March 23, 2011, 09:52:28 PM
"Do you have the dates wrong Bruce, this double is from 1968..."

I figured out the mystery of why my database gave this quad a date of "1960"

It is fairly simply and fairly frustrating!

We did not know the exact date, so we listed it as "1960s".

But the Sales Result Database my data was taken from has a "character limit" on that field of FOUR characters (for technical reasons I won't bore you with). So it chopped off the "s" and "1960s" became "1960".

Since we are abandoning this database in favor of our new Auction History Database at http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archive.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archive.html) we won't take the time to fix it there.

But good came out of this both because it exposed this flaw, and because we can fix this in our new database.

We can't fix mistakes until we know what they are, so keep letting us know.

Bruce
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Post by: wonka on March 26, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
Looking through today's Heritage Signature Auction at the moment...I just don't understand their point of an auction with 'current bids' at high amounts but with zero actual bidders.  I mean, I get what they are doing with reserves, but I just don't see the point of this in a live online auction format. 

Just list the posters for BINS with their prices they want or lower the reserves.  So many times I will watch these things and see so many posters go unsold...oh well.
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Post by: Dr Hackenbush on March 26, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
The lots that didn't sell are available in their "Buy Now" (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?Ne=35&N=54+794+791+4294955351) section, so they do have a BIN - it's just post-auction.  I wish they would start every auction at .99 and let the market decide.  I hate the way they do it now, starting at half their low estimate. 
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Post by: wonka on March 26, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Yeah, I agree Angelo.

It just makes no sense.  They are shooting themselves in the foot with this 'current bid' crap.  It only discourages folks to watch and take part in/purchase their wares.  Just seems so counterproductive on every level.
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Post by: Bruce on March 26, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
This is "old school" auctioning, relying on uninformed bidders who are taken in by the "estimates" and who never figure out that there is no one bidding against them. This was first developed in the mid-1700s and has barely changed since!

But there is an ever-growing new breed of auction bidders who are far too savvy for these kinds of "tricks" and there are fewer and fewer of the "old school" uninformed bidders (and the ever-growing number of high profile passes and items that sell with a single bid attests to this).

More and more bidders don't like auctions with a "Pay retail or you can't buy" format, where the same items return to the block over and over and over (will someone ever FINALLY buy those Lawrence of Arabia roadshow one-sheets so there can finally be one of these auctions without them?), and they don't like secret "reserves" and the DO like real auctions where the final bid price is set by two real bidders!

Bruce
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Post by: Cj on March 26, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 26, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
This was first developed in the mid-1700s and has barely changed since!

Mid 1700's really...wow!!!
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on March 26, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
I kind of like this old-fashioned way. It has a sense of a special occasion. It works for me twice a year, especially as I can follow the auction live. I usually only do the signature auctions of HA and not the weekly internets. Even if you can probably get better deals checking three emovieposter auctions and one Comicart auction a week every week aswell as the ebay, it has a sort of dulling effect. I'm not really into it anymore. A few weeks ago I discovered quite a few recently bought items that I already had, including an Italian Peeping Tom! It gets a bit too mechanical. Other ofputting factor for me is that the auctions of Bruce and Rich are in the dead of night here in Holland. This Heritage Auction I've taken my time with the catalogue and browsed through the items you don't see too often somewhere else in my own time, cup of coffee in hand, threatening the wife with all my potential buys. I had a lovely auction, will sent pics later.
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 26, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
I got my first personal copy of the Heritage catalogue last week - very impressed with it.
It's a shame Bruce no longer does these!

How about Bruce does a special one-off auction each year?
It's an idea!

So Mondo, I assume you acquired a few pieces tonight?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
Quote from: Mondo Hazardo on March 26, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
the auctions of Bruce and Rich are in the dead of night here in Holland.

I definitely hear that Wim. Unfortunately, there isn't a soultion. Naturally, the majority of buyers for US posters are in America and for those buyers, auctions need to take place after work hours. Bruce has that Sunday auction early enough for you and I wish I could do something alike, but with just a 2-person crew and a real inability to find other useful employees, it just isn't possible.

Myself, I hate ebay auctions that end before 10am Pacific time on ebay (I have no idea why anyone would want an auction to end at 7am). I'm fast asleep. Of course, I do get something extra for those fools whose auctions end before 3am my time (and again I have no idea why anyone would want an auction to end at 3am) as auctions ending at that time on ebay are usually pretty cheap seeing as 90% of the buyers are sleeping or busy
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on March 27, 2011, 03:06:30 AM

Quote from: bondposters.com on March 26, 2011, 07:03:10 PM


So Mondo, I assume you acquired a few pieces tonight?

Yes, very happy, some things I've never seen before, like the Othello quad, some I've been after for long time (dorian Gray), but all great designs
here they are, two great lobbies

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/WrongMan6.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/BigShotTC.jpg)

quads:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/Othello30x40.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/GreatStTriniansTrainRobbery30x40.jpg)

40x60
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/MeanStreets40x60.jpg)

onesheets
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/Hustler27x41.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/PictureOfDorianGray27x41.jpg)

Belgian, halfsheet and Italian 2 foglio
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/DrjekyllAndMrHyde1941BEL.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/FireMaidensOfOuterSpace22x28.jpg)
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/TasteTheBloodOfDracula39x55.jpg)
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on March 27, 2011, 08:54:57 AM
Nice buys, Mondo happy1
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Post by: brude on March 27, 2011, 05:20:41 PM
This might be priced a bit high, eh?
It is after all a commercial poster from 1968...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200591107468&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200591107468&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2011, 03:50:30 PM
The ebay seller (rare-movieposters) is at it again... and has the SAME 22x28 inch Portal Publications poster for Valentino's A SAINTED DEVIL up, for only $9500.00 (OBO- laugh1 ).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sainted-Devil-1924-Rudolph-Valentino-Nita-Naldi-POSTR-/260745076368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb59e1e90

If you look at the image and lower right corner that is heavily painted (as all the borders are), whoever did this restore created and placed a Morgan Litho logo in the right corner that doesnt even exist on the genuine Window Card (the art for the vintage OS differs). All of the re-created fine print on the border is incorrectly placed, too. This seller has been notified about this before, yet continues to peddle this piece of linen backed crap, hoping someone unsuspecting will cough up even a few grand, which i am sure he/she would take.

First is the ebay Portal, followed by the legitimate WC (image from Heritage archive):

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!jIE1N,DkhYgBN,)14SNnQ~~_3.JPG) (http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f2%2f1%2f5%2f5%2f2155670.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)


Check out the badly drawn Morgan Litho and heavy paint on the fake:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!h4E1Kvu7Lc3BN,)7yJ+p!~~_3.JPG)
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Post by: jayn_j on March 28, 2011, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: brude on March 27, 2011, 05:20:41 PM
This might be priced a bit high, eh?
It is after all a commercial poster from 1968...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200591107468&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200591107468&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

Hmmm.  This seller is only a couple of miles from me.  Still, I agree about overpriced commercial paper.
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Post by: brude on March 28, 2011, 04:48:03 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 28, 2011, 03:50:30 PM
The ebay seller (rare-movieposters) is at it again... and has the SAME 22x28 inch Portal Publications poster for Valentino's A SAINTED DEVIL up, for only $9500.00 (OBO- laugh1 ).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sainted-Devil-1924-Rudolph-Valentino-Nita-Naldi-POSTR-/260745076368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb59e1e90

If you look at the image and lower right corner that is heavily painted (as all the borders are), whoever did this restore created and placed a Morgan Litho logo in the right corner that doesnt even exist on the genuine Window Card (the art for the vintage OS differs). All of the re-created fine print on the border is incorrectly placed, too. This seller has been notified about this before, yet continues to peddle this piece of linen backed crap, hoping someone unsuspecting will cough up even a few grand, which i am sure he/she would take.

Rat Bastard.  If I ever see him at the mall...bing, bang, boom....

                                                                                    (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/343263838jpg.gif)


                                                                         
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Post by: paul waines on March 28, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
 laugh1
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Post by: CSM on March 28, 2011, 06:40:29 PM
Wow...now that's just blatant fraud.
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Post by: Ari on March 30, 2011, 03:46:42 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/King-Kings-Orig-1961-Poster-Linen-Backed-Japan-/330536346220?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf580626c#ht_1702wt_907

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Post by: Ari on March 30, 2011, 04:18:09 AM
oh

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1996-Australian-One-Sheet-Trainspotting-Movie-Poster-/120700841880?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item1c1a54af98#ht_516wt_1141

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Post by: Tob on March 30, 2011, 07:58:10 AM
Quote from: Ari on March 30, 2011, 04:18:09 AM
oh

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1996-Australian-One-Sheet-Trainspotting-Movie-Poster-/120700841880?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item1c1a54af98#ht_516wt_1141



Blimey, that's a lot of cash. Great film and nice poster, but the Quad has the same art and is in a better format for the poster style (IMO)...it's a lot cheaper than that too!
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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on March 30, 2011, 10:50:04 AM
Mrs. Miniver is showing off again. I do wonder how they get all of this massive material.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-RAREST-Star-Wars-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-POSTER-/390301889055?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adfce321f#ht_1014wt_905
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Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 28, 2011, 03:50:30 PM
The ebay seller (rare-movieposters) is at it again... and has the SAME 22x28 inch Portal Publications poster for Valentino's A SAINTED DEVIL up, for only $9500.00 (OBO- laugh1 ).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sainted-Devil-1924-Rudolph-Valentino-Nita-Naldi-POSTR-/260745076368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb59e1e90

If you look at the image and lower right corner that is heavily painted (as all the borders are), whoever did this restore created and placed a Morgan Litho logo in the right corner that doesnt even exist on the genuine Window Card (the art for the vintage OS differs). All of the re-created fine print on the border is incorrectly placed, too. This seller has been notified about this before, yet continues to peddle this piece of linen backed crap, hoping someone unsuspecting will cough up even a few grand, which i am sure he/she would take.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!jIE1N,DkhYgBN,)14SNnQ~~_3.JPG)


Has anyone here ever bought from this seller (rare-movieposters). They are in NY and have 100% positive feedback. In looking at their recent feedback, they have sold some nice pieces, like a linen backed 3 sheet for A FEW DOLLARS MORE, the rarer style OS from THE GREAT ESCAPE and a backed OS for COOL HAND LUKE.

With that being said, I dont understand why they are selling this Portal piece and describing it as an original. They seem to know posters and poster sizes, so this 22x28 item should be a HUGE red flag for them, wouldn't you think? People have even written to them in the past, and the accurate information is basically brushed to the side.

It makes no sense. 

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Post by: Zorba on March 30, 2011, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 30, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
It makes no sense. 

 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 30, 2011, 01:39:23 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



I get that.. and that was my first thought. But the question remains: why risk your reputation in selling an obvious reproduction to someone? Its not as tho the others I referenced were. They appear to be the real deal.
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Post by: Zorba on March 30, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 30, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
I get that.. and that was my first thought. But the question remains: why risk your reputation in selling an obvious reproduction to someone? Its not as tho the others I referenced were. They appear to be the real deal.

I guess they just figure it wont make a difference in the long run anyway. You have dealers in that bad dealer section here who have perfect and near feedback. Im sure there quite a few others that are completely under the radar.

Teflon dealers.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 30, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
I guess they just figure it wont make a difference in the long run anyway. You have dealers in that bad dealer section here who have perfect and near feedback. Im sure there quite a few others that are completely under the radar.

Teflon dealers.

Very true..
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Post by: CJ138 on March 31, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
WTF?! A video poster?!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300541270628&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Post by: eatbrie on March 31, 2011, 08:13:44 PM
Hilarious.  It's 2 guys fighting each other.  What a bunch of morons...  :)

T
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Post by: Ari on March 31, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
I am not as surprised as you guys (a little yes, but not too much) I've got great faith in 80's  Horror Video posters.
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Post by: brude on March 31, 2011, 08:24:22 PM
I sold one of those PUMPKINHEADs to Holiday.  He got a deal compared to what those dudes are doing.
$415....That is outrageous.
But, it is a VERY hard poster to find...
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Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. A great collectible is something NO ONE valued when they were made, like video posters. Everyone threw them out, and few people believe in them even now, so they grow more and more rare.

OTOH, a terrible collectible is something where EVERYONE values them when they are made, because NO ONE ever throws even one out, and everyone believes in them until a few years pass, and all the speculators move on to the "next hot collectible".

Bruce
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Post by: brude on March 31, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 31, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. A great collectible is something NO ONE valued when they were made, like video posters. Everyone threw them out, and few people believe in them even now, so they grow more and more rare.

OTOH, a terrible collectible is something where EVERYONE values them when they are made, because NO ONE ever throws even one out, and everyone believes in them until a few years pass, and all the speculators move on to the "next hot collectible".

Bruce

Words of wisdom.  wynk
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Post by: CSM on March 31, 2011, 08:53:51 PM
It might be a video poster and it might be a crazy price but it is also an amazing image that I don't think any of the other Pumpkinhead posters have?
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Post by: Ari on March 31, 2011, 09:22:51 PM
Agreed 100% Bruce, and I'll add something extra.
Movie nerds my age (and non movie nerds) grew up on VIDEO, it played a big part in our young life and teens.
Bigger than Cinemas and drive ins (well they were still around and important) but VIDEO STORES were great - and the art of the video posters, especially if its the same as the video cover, brings back all those memories.
Horror lovers tend to be extremely passionate about "their" genre, and as is usually the case, Collecting comes from Nostalgia, the wonderful day when you finally found a copy of SUSPIRIA on Beta, or ZOMBIE FLESH EATERS.

EG, I never saw a Texas Chainsaw massacre Daybill as a kid (even though it was banned here until the 80's), but I sre as heck remember the video poster and lifesize cardboard standee. And I'll tell you which id pay more for, it aint the Cinema release.

Its all about memories. And us kids have now grown, and some of us have money.
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Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
You're right, Ari. Every true collector buys their own memories, not anyone else's.

Bruce
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Post by: brude on March 31, 2011, 10:12:44 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 31, 2011, 08:53:51 PM
It might be a video poster and it might be a crazy price but it is also an amazing image that I don't think any of the other Pumpkinhead posters have?

Yes, the art is unique to the video release.
I still prefer the original theatrical though...

         (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/pumpkinhead.jpg)

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2011, 10:53:04 PM
This beautiful and ginormous (90"x119") French four panel for Dr. Zhivago (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2149100) just popped up in Emovie's Major Auction - it dwarfs - and is far superior to - the one sheet (shown proportionally below):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/DZ-compare.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Uh, oh. Mel's going to need a bigger boat!

Bruce
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Post by: longdog on April 01, 2011, 02:57:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 31, 2011, 09:45:23 PM
You're right, Ari. Every true collector buys their own memories, not anyone else's.

Bruce

That is quite possibly the best quote I've read that beautifully sums up our collective 'habit'.
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Post by: brude on April 01, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: longdog on April 01, 2011, 02:57:35 AM
That is quite possibly the best quote I've read that beautifully sums up our collective 'habit'.

Sure does.
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Post by: CJ138 on April 01, 2011, 07:58:46 PM
Quote from: Ari on March 31, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
I am not as surprised as you guys (a little yes, but not too much) I've got great faith in 80's  Horror Video posters.

I have a couple of video release posters because I really like the art i.e. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Stuff...I have been looking for one of these Pumpkinhead posters for a while.  The last one I saw was in october on ebay for around $100.  $415 is just way beyond what I have previously seen it go for.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 01, 2011, 11:47:07 PM
Only 19+ hours left and the bids are only up to 8000.00 (reserve not met, at this point), for the GILDA one sheet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170619649664&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Will she be going home to someone new tomorrow?   :-\

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqJ,!kwE2JCl3OOkBNioBYHu2w~~0_1.JPG)

Jeff
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Post by: CSM on April 02, 2011, 12:04:29 AM
Nope!  Because no one is going to pay more than what he paid initially for a Gilda poster with a giant tear right up her dress!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2011, 12:21:13 AM
Exactly, Chris... she aint goin' nowhere...  :P

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Post by: 50s on April 02, 2011, 12:29:43 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 02, 2011, 12:04:29 AM
Nope!  Because no one is going to pay more than what he paid initially for a Gilda poster with a giant tear right up her dress!

 Looks like someone tried to seperate her legs... (or worse)...  bed1

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/gilda_tear.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2011, 12:39:26 AM
With a little under 3 days left, 2 bidders are sparring for this FANTASTIC french panel, for 1957's CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN, starring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. This beautiful litho, offered by empireposters, is currently at 2024.00. This piece has been paper backed by NDCC and looks pristine. This is one I would certainly not mind adding to my collection.   sm1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320677823347&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

(http://kitchenworksinstallation.com/testfiles/A/IMG_2483.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on April 02, 2011, 12:54:28 AM
I like the franky poster but Im not bidding on it. I wish though people wouldnt bid, until the last seconds. Bidding in the days before just makes me re-adjust my snipe upwards, which means a higher final price.
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Post by: paul waines on April 02, 2011, 02:49:35 AM
I hope T wins it... ;)
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Post by: brude on April 02, 2011, 09:30:50 AM
I think it's Mascii's best poster and the finest paper on this title.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 02, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
A paperbacked french 1-panel!!?!??!  It will probably cost $200+ to ship the damn thing flat!
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Post by: wonka on April 02, 2011, 11:30:21 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 02, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
A paperbacked french 1-panel!!?!??!  It will probably cost $200+ to ship the damn thing flat!
I was thinking the same thing.

Looks incredible though, love the colors.

In terms of Mascii, I will always choose his large Eyes Without a Face...just my personal preference.
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Post by: marklawd on April 02, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
It is paperbacked so it can be sent rolled...as the seller intends!

Mark
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Post by: wonka on April 02, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: marklawd on April 02, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
It is paperbacked so it can be sent rolled...as the seller intends!

Mark
Depends on the paper.  I have one poster paperbacked that rolls easily. Have also seen other 'paperbacked' pieces that do not roll without a fuss, which makes it too risky.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 02, 2011, 01:42:15 PM
Can you clarify Mark?  I was always told paper backed items had to be sent flat and that is why linen backing (while maybe slightly inferior from a longevity standpoint) is typically used for anything larger than a 1-sheet...
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Post by: marklawd on April 02, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

Mark
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Post by: wonka on April 02, 2011, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: marklawd on April 02, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

Mark

Yes, paper is thinner, but I guess it has to do with what folks consider 'paper' vs. 'board'.  I was at a show last year where a guy had a six sheet on what I thought to be some sort of board.  He said it was 'thick stock archival boarding paper'.  So I think mounting outside of linen can sometimes get lost in translation...who knows.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 02, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: marklawd on April 02, 2011, 01:45:21 PM
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

Mark

Nope, not thinking of board.  For instance, I had a 1/2 sheet restored and paper-backed by Sylvia at Precision Restoration and it was returned to me flat. 

Is it just a misconception that paper backed items have to be mailed flat?  Surely I can't be the only one who was told this...
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Post by: Bruce on April 02, 2011, 02:30:35 PM
There are two kinds of proper paperbacking. One involves mounting a one-sheet (or any other poster printed on thin paper) on Japanese rice paper only (think linenbacking without the linen). If done by museum people or the very best pros, the paper is deacidified and stabilized, and restoration is done to "voids" (areas of paper loss) only.

The other involves removing the top layer of a half-sheet, insert, window card or lobby card (or any other poster or lobby card-type item printed on thick paper) and mounting it onto a heavy board backing, and then performing full restoration to the item.

You couldn't do much restoration to the first type if you wanted to because it only has a very thin layer of rice paper behind it. The second type is now on a heavy board, so all sorts of restoration can now be performed.

And of course there are many not-very-talented restorers who attempt to imitate both types of above paperbacking, but in restoration, you absolutely get what you pay for, these not-very-talented restorers charge less and deliver much less.

Incidentally, the second type should be called "board backed" which would end the confusion, but most collectors hear "board backed"  and think "mounted on board" so people don't use it that way for that reason.

Bruce
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 02, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Great info Bruce thankyou,
Can i ask a newb question?

If the decision has been made to mount the poster on thicker board,and heavy restoration done,can the backing be undone?,could you then re mount onto thinner backing?

One,Two,questions ...i`ll come back in again  ;D

Stew

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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2011, 02:37:09 PM
Per Sam's description section of what was done to his French FRANK one panel:

"It was paper-backed onto hand-made archival Japanese paper by the world-renowned Northeast Document Conservation Center...."

This sounds like the kind of masa paper used as the interim layer prior to backing on linen, when done.

Per his shipping details:

NOTE: this particular poster will be gently rolled into a PVC tube and sent via USPS insured mail.
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Post by: Bruce on April 02, 2011, 02:53:36 PM
Stew,

In THEORY you can unback and re-back anything. In actuality, many items end up practically a re-creation after the process.

The Mona Lisa has been so damaged and restored it is hard to say how much original is left (but still a great painting!).

Bruce
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Post by: paul waines on April 02, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0512-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on April 02, 2011, 02:59:02 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 02, 2011, 02:53:36 PM
Stew,

In THEORY you can unback and re-back anything. In actuality, many items end up practically a re-creation after the process.

The Mona Lisa has been so damaged and restored it is hard to say how much original is left (but still a great painting!).

Bruce

Thanks Bruce  thumbup

Stew
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Post by: brude on April 05, 2011, 06:04:01 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 02, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0512-1.jpg)

My, my...that quad has more curves than a country road...  eyeroll2
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 05, 2011, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 02, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0512-1.jpg)

Which Greek island exactly?
I want to know!  laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 05, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Am I missing something here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139)
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Post by: wonka on April 05, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: bondposters.com on April 05, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Am I missing something here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139)

Of course you are.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: bondposters.com on April 05, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Am I missing something here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139)

What did they sell for originally? 50-60.00 each? More? less?

Jeff
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: bondposters.com on April 05, 2011, 02:51:10 PM
Am I missing something here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-Star-Wars-Trilogy-Print-Set-Numbered-/130502453851?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item1e628d6a5b#ht_640wt_1139)

Or how about this..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Big-Trouble-Little-China-Poster-Print-40-Stout-GID-/140527978137?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item20b81ec699

$2500.00 BIN ?!?  jawdrop
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 05, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 05, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Of course you are.

Straight to the point, eh!? Lol.

Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:06:59 PM
What did they sell for originally? 50-60.00 each? More? less?

Jeff

Edition of 400 - yes, they are very nice in my opinion, but $1000+ ???
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: bondposters.com on April 05, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
Straight to the point, eh!? Lol.

Edition of 400 - yes, they are very nice in my opinion, but $1000+ ???

Adam. were they sold as a set initially? Or separately?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on April 05, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Or how about this..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Big-Trouble-Little-China-Poster-Print-40-Stout-GID-/140527978137?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item20b81ec699

$2500.00 BIN ?!?  jawdrop

It looks unfinished. If I ever owned one of those, I'd attack it with acrylics.  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: brude on April 05, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
It looks unfinished. If I ever owned one of those, I'd attack it with acrylics.  wynk

Ted.. his style reminds me of the old paint by numbers canvases.   ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on April 05, 2011, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
Ted.. his style reminds me of the old paint by numbers canvases.   ;)

Jeff
Etch-A-Sketch...thats what it remind me of...penny just dropped..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on April 05, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
Just as an F.Y.I., I received a Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes poster yesterday (the same one another member here bought about a week ago and returned to the seller).  It is severely faded, but appears to me to be legit.  It took me about half a second to determine that it was far more faded than what the seller had described as "faded a bit", and I didn't want to keep it, so I contacted him stating that I wanted to return it for a full refund and within 5 minutes he sent me an email basically saying "no problem", but he also re-listed it (and I just took it to the post office a few hours ago) and the auction ends on Thursday (http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-Lucky-Strike-Teaser-Original-1sheet-Poster-/230605522053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b1290485), so it probably won't be delivered to him until after the auction ends.  I did ship it in a tube from Hideyuki, so it should arrive safely to him.  Also, as previously stated, it is extremely faded, and IMO doesn't look as bad in the photo as it does in person.  I'm not sure if he didn't realize the extent to which it has faded, as the description in the current auction states "it has faded quite a bit", and I took a couple photos of it next to it's original German counterpart I bought from Bruce, and the color difference is significant.  It seems like he has good customer service, he has responded to all my emails, and assured me that he will give me a refund, but I just wanted to let y'all know of the situation.  That was cool of Mel to post the link to the auction for it a few weeks ago, and it's unfortunate that it is in a lot worse condition than can be seen from the seller's photo.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC00852.jpg)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC00853.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
This exact poster for THE GHOUL just sold in Heritage's auction, at the end of March 2011, for $4182.50, including the 19.5% BP.

Here is one on ebay, offered by Cinemasterpieces, with a BIN for $24,995.00 (just under 6x more)   wow1

http://cgi.ebay.com/GHOUL-1SH-HORROR-MOVIE-POSTER-BORIS-KARLOFF-1933-/170432122604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ae8bceec


(http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BjdGetwBGk~$(KGrHqQOKjgEsnLMRufdBLTn0JFK9w~~_12.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 05, 2011, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 03:15:58 PM
Adam. were they sold as a set initially? Or separately?



I'm pretty sure this was discussed here at the time of release.
From what I remember, and from what I have read, they were available individually and as sets.
I could be wrong though. Maybe one of the Alamo/Mondo nuts can confirm or kick my ass on this!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on April 05, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
This exact poster for THE GHOUL just sold in Heritage's auction, at the end of March 2011, for $4182.50, including the 19.5% BP.
Here is one on ebay, offered by Cinemasterpieces, with a BIN for $24,995.00 (just under 6x more)   wow1
http://cgi.ebay.com/GHOUL-1SH-HORROR-MOVIE-POSTER-BORIS-KARLOFF-1933-/170432122604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ae8bcee

Dave has been advertising that Ghoul for sale for over a year now, and seeing as it took Heritage two attempts to find a buyer at $4182, I would expect Dave to be advertising it for several more years.  But since it's on consignment it probably doesn't matter to him either way.

As for the Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes poster, I do have a mint one available for an interested party.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on April 05, 2011, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
Here is one on ebay, offered by Cinemasterpieces, with a BIN for $24,995.00 (just under 6x more)   wow1

No, you're not saying Cinemasterprices sell their good at inflated costs are you??  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 05, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on April 05, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
Just as an F.Y.I., I received a Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes poster yesterday (the same one another member here bought about a week ago and returned to the seller).  It is severely faded, but appears to me to be legit.  It took me about half a second to determine that it was far more faded than what the seller had described as "faded a bit", and I didn't want to keep it, so I contacted him stating that I wanted to return it for a full refund and within 5 minutes he sent me an email basically saying "no problem", but he also re-listed it (and I just took it to the post office a few hours ago) and the auction ends on Thursday (http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-Lucky-Strike-Teaser-Original-1sheet-Poster-/230605522053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b1290485), so it probably won't be delivered to him until after the auction ends.  I did ship it in a tube from Hideyuki, so it should arrive safely to him.  Also, as previously stated, it is extremely faded, and IMO doesn't look as bad in the photo as it does in person.  I'm not sure if he didn't realize the extent to which it has faded, as the description in the current auction states "it has faded quite a bit", and I took a couple photos of it next to it's original German counterpart I bought from Bruce, and the color difference is significant.  It seems like he has good customer service, he has responded to all my emails, and assured me that he will give me a refund, but I just wanted to let y'all know of the situation.  That was cool of Mel to post the link to the auction for it a few weeks ago, and it's unfortunate that it is in a lot worse condition than can be seen from the seller's photo.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC00852.jpg)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC00853.jpg)


I also bought and returned the same poster a few weeks ago.  It is definitely legit, just way to faded for my tastes.  To the seller's credit, they took the return with no fuss.  To any of you interested, I think Neo's pics accurately represent the degree of fading (i.e. severe).  Here is the latest auction (the seller has listed it about 6 times now)... I personally wouldn't throw more than a few bucks at it as a curiosity....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230605522053&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on April 05, 2011, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on April 05, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
Just as an F.Y.I., I received a Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes poster yesterday (the same one another member here bought about a week ago and returned to the seller).  It is severely faded, but appears to me to be legit.  It took me about half a second to determine that it was far more faded than what the seller had described as "faded a bit", and I didn't want to keep it, so I contacted him stating that I wanted to return it for a full refund and within 5 minutes he sent me an email basically saying "no problem", but he also re-listed it (and I just took it to the post office a few hours ago) and the auction ends on Thursday (http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-Lucky-Strike-Teaser-Original-1sheet-Poster-/230605522053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b1290485), so it probably won't be delivered to him until after the auction ends.  I did ship it in a tube from Hideyuki, so it should arrive safely to him.  Also, as previously stated, it is extremely faded, and IMO doesn't look as bad in the photo as it does in person.  I'm not sure if he didn't realize the extent to which it has faded, as the description in the current auction states "it has faded quite a bit", and I took a couple photos of it next to it's original German counterpart I bought from Bruce, and the color difference is significant.  It seems like he has good customer service, he has responded to all my emails, and assured me that he will give me a refund, but I just wanted to let y'all know of the situation.  That was cool of Mel to post the link to the auction for it a few weeks ago, and it's unfortunate that it is in a lot worse condition than can be seen from the seller's photo.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC00852.jpg)

This is more of a general note and I am not saying that it is the case here, but you want to be careful comparing color levels from posters of diferent countries. 

That german looks a little 'hot', if you know what I mean...   :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 05, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2147233

$2,500 and counting on the In a Lonely Place French One-Panel

Yes Matt I am jealous but man enough to admit it ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2011, 08:09:31 PM
GRAND ILLUSION... 3950.00 and going to Posteritati... WOW!


(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/italian_misc_grand_illusion_linen_LB01128_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on April 05, 2011, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: archie leach on April 05, 2011, 07:30:32 PM
This is more of a general note and I am not saying that it is the case here, but you want to be careful comparing color levels from posters of diferent countries. 

That german looks a little 'hot', if you know what I mean...   :)

Yeah, I figured they are not going to be identical in color, but fairly close.

No, I don't know what you mean.  Would you mind explaining?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 05, 2011, 09:20:36 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 05, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2147233

$2,500 and counting on the In a Lonely Place French One-Panel

Yes Matt I am jealous but man enough to admit it ;)

I'm a happy man right now.  ;D

And while I was surprised at the IALP result, I'm not at all surprised about the Grand Illusion going for $4K.  That is a damn pretty and damn rare poster right there.  Worth every penny.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 10:56:42 AM
Hmmm..... I just noticed that Posteritati was the high bidder on the Grand Illusion poster.  That must be frustrating for the private collectors bidding on this piece. 


Cue relisting on their site for $10K in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...  :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 12:32:07 PM

for allposterforum members only..........if you buy THE GHOUL we will throw in a free PRETTY WOMAN one sheet for free!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
for allposterforum members only..........if you buy THE GHOUL we will throw in a free PRETTY WOMAN one sheet for free!!

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 06, 2011, 01:28:03 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
laugh1 laugh1 laugh1



+1

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 06, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
for allposterforum members only..........if you buy THE GHOUL we will throw in a free PRETTY WOMAN one sheet for free!!

This did make me laugh ...
Nice one, Dave  laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on April 06, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
for allposterforum members only..........if you buy THE GHOUL we will throw in a free PRETTY WOMAN one sheet for free!!

Im having this one... Dave here are my bank account details..
Sort Code 55-55-55
Account number 55555555

Get in...Pretty Woman  ;D

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 06, 2011, 02:02:02 PM
here's the poster Dave is going to send you

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/pretty_dave.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:47:08 PM

don't you just love my boots!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:48:46 PM

and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 06, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.

 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.

You arent worth it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 05:06:32 PM

yes I am, you just can't afford me.  bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 05:06:32 PM
you just can't afford me.  bed1

At $195 for this poster
http://cgi.ebay.com/CASINO-ROYALE-DS-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-JAMES-BOND-007-2006-/180480091633?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0573a5f1

Who the fuck can?

Seriously...dude..as a person...you are worthless.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on April 06, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 05:15:46 PM
Seriously...dude..as a person...you are worthless.

Perhaps not,..there has been alot of bond love on this forum recently...*no offence to any collectors here",there seems to be alot of members,who love Bond,i am not amongst them.

Why not use that valuable market info to get the best price for that poster ?

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 05:06:32 PM
yes I am, you just can't afford me.  bed1

Do people really pay this? Who, mostly, are your customers? I really am curious. You run a respectable business, but a business I can't imagine has customers. Do you actually sell movie posters, or is it a front for your human trafficking?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:03:28 PM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 05:25:50 PM
Do people really pay this? Who, mostly, are your customers? I really am curious. You run a respectable business, but a business I can't imagine has customers. Do you actually sell movie posters, or is it a front for your human trafficking?

Dave can answer obviously but check his past eBay sales results - there is a reason he keeps the prices where he does.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:03:28 PM
Dave can answer obviously but check his past eBay sales results - there is a reason he keeps the prices where he does.

PT Barnum said...."There's a sucker born every minute"

Our hero makes his living off of the lazy , the unsuspecting tourist and the newbie collector....

I think the best way to describe Dave would be as a parasite.

Parasite is Perfect.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
But how - especially on eBay - would the uninformed memorabilia buyer be drawn to the most expensive option available? Wouldn't uninformed people automatically sort by lowest price first? Who sees the most expensive auction and sees exactly what they're looking for?

I mean, if I walk up to a soda machine that only sells diet coke and they all have different prices, wouldn't I naturally buy the cheapest one? Even if some are in cans and some are in bottles. Why would I pay $195 for a bottle of pop when there's a $1.25 option right above it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
I know what you are trying to say Zorba but there is no excuse for "lazy" and maybe even the "unsuspecting"

As for "new" well you might be on to something but as always it's buyer beware and there are ample resources to become informed.


That's my devil's advocating for today...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
But how - especially on eBay - would the uninformed memorabilia buyer be drawn to the most expensive option available? Wouldn't uninformed people automatically sort by lowest price first? Who sees the most expensive auction and sees exactly what they're looking for?

I mean, if I walk up to a soda machine that only sells diet coke and they all have different prices, wouldn't I naturally buy the cheapest one? Even if some are in cans and some are in bottles. Why would I pay $195 for a bottle of pop when there's a $1.25 option right above it?

People are attracted to shiny colours and the phrases "investment quality" and "a long time can go by..."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
People are attracted to shiny colours and the phrases "investment quality" and "a long time can go by..."

 laugh1

Ya plus he has all the mysteriously aquired authentications to give the buyer that all warm fuzzy and secure feeling.

Make no mistake this guy is a fucking snake.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 06, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
People are attracted to shiny colours and the phrases "investment quality" and "a long time can go by..."

How does that honestly work though?

When I list an item on eBay and there is more than one of them, I have to list it for a few cents cheaper than the standing cheapest one or people won't even look at it. I've sold a lot of Disney park pins and if one was listed for 3.99, I had to list mine for 3.98. Or else, plain and simple, people will just buy the other one. There are prestigious looking listings selling pins for $50 but they're repeatedly relisted for weeks or months before the seller gives up.

Apparently, for Mr. Lieberman, its the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
Now, now... no need to be so hard on Dave.  His buyers are most likely not 'collectors' in the same sense we are.  We spent (i.e. wasted) many days/weeks/years learning what we have so we can buy up posters 'cheap' on eBay and feel like we got a good deal -- time we likely should have valued, but probably didn't.

If you weren't into the hobby, how many hours would it take for you to learn how to spot the difference between real and fake Star Wars 1-sheets?  I'm guessing for a complete noob, a few hours at least... starting with first figuring out what a 1-sheet is! 

I'm sure many of Dave's clients make enough in an hour to buy 10 original Star Wars 1-sheets.  They are also probably people who care as much or more about the presentation and framing, which I'm sure Dave handles (for a fee) and with white glove delivery to boot.  I know the quotes I got on framing a few of my pieces far exceeded the cost of the posters themselves, even some that I consider expensive posters (i.e. For a Few Dollars More Italian 2p).  Just because posters reign supreme for many of us, doesn't mean they aren't pocket change for some of Dave's (and many dealer's) clients. 

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on April 06, 2011, 06:23:20 PM
How does that honestly work though?

When I list an item on eBay and there is more than one of them, I have to list it for a few cents cheaper than the standing cheapest one or people won't even look at it. I've sold a lot of Disney park pins and if one was listed for 3.99, I had to list mine for 3.98. Or else, plain and simple, people will just buy the other one. There are prestigious looking listings selling pins for $50 but they're repeatedly relisted for weeks or months before the seller gives up.

Apparently, for Mr. Lieberman, its the exact opposite.

Its the same reason people buy repeatedly from Bruce or Rich or Grey or Sean or or or... reputation, quality, service, packaging, assurance of authenticity, etc....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:40:54 PM
Its the same reason people buy repeatedly from Bruce or Rich or Grey or Sean or or or... reputation, quality, service, packaging, assurance of authenticity, etc....


Sighs...

Really?

You equate them to this "man"?

Dissapointed! and Im sure they are insulted .


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Sighs...

Really?

You equate them?

Dissapointed!

When he sells on eBay, definitely.  You don't?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
Yes, we sell posters for much higher than average auction prices every single day. Apparently, this is shady and/or illegal activity to some collectors.

Do you really want me to post a list of our recent EBAY fixed price sales again? I'd rather not, but I will if you insist. I obviously can't show you the sales directly off our website, but they are even more impressive and jaw dropping than our ebay sales. Again, I'm talking about our fixed price listings, not our no reserve auctions.

Our customers/consignors are thrilled when we can sell their posters for 5 or 10 times what they normally go for at auction. Many of our consignors are long time experienced COLLECTORS....the ones smart enough to realize that auctions are not always the best way to go if you have a very valuable item. We help collectors get the most money possible for their items. Criminal isn't it? Helping collectors get the most money possible for their posters?

"Why would I pay $195 for a bottle of pop when there's a $1.25 option right above it?"

Why would someone buy our $195.00 poster when there is a $29.00 option right next to it?

Its called marketing. We market our items better than some others do. Apparently to some people this is completely unethical.

Buy a 12 oz can of soda in a machine for $1.25......................or go to the newest hottest night club in town and pay $8.50 at the bar to a beautiful blonde 22 year old bartender for the same 12 oz soda in a glass. Its the same exact thing.....one marketed better than the other. Did you feel ripped off when you bought the $8.50 soda? maybe you did, maybe you didn't, but you still willingly paid for it.........and I'm certain the night club wasn't given a warning by the police about their unethically high soda prices.

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Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 06, 2011, 06:50:40 PM
Wow!  :o
Zorba, you seem to have a little chip on your shoulder with regards to Dave.
Has something happened in the past to cause this? Genuinely curious.

I agree with Matt, by the way.
Sure, I and many others do not charge Dave's prices if selling anything, but he has a clientele not many can say they have.
So if he can get the prices he puts on the gear, then good on him.

Do any of you remember Harrods in London once selling James Bond posters?
People were buying them ... people who didn't give a damn about the price, and that is exactly Dave's customer base.

EDIT: Dave brings up a very valid point - Marketing. He is good at it.
If you spend a lot of time working on decent marketing; x amount of money on decent marketing, then you will reap the rewards.
He does, and he is.
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:56:25 PM
Quote from: bondposters.com on April 06, 2011, 06:50:40 PM
Wow!  :o


WOW adam...

Now Im  curious about your love of dave...Do you have links to daves site on your site?... Is there cash exchanged?

Is everything okay?

Quote from: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
When he sells on eBay, definitely.  You don't?

That I cannot argue.

He asked  so I answered.....I just think any newb that passes through here should know that they can get that Casino Royale for under $20 all day long.

Thats all.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 06:45:29 PM
Our customers/consignors are thrilled when we can sell their posters for 5 or 10 times what they normally go for at auction. Many of our consignors are long time experienced COLLECTORS....the ones smart enough to realize that auctions are not always the best way to go if you have a very valuable item. We help collectors get the most money possible for their items. Criminal isn't it? Helping collectors get the most money possible for their posters?

I can vouch for that directly... I've sold posters through Dave and netted (sometimes significantly) more than what I would have at auction at places like eMovie, HA, Christies, etc...  and that takes into account all associated fees from both sides.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 06:56:25 PM
He asked  so I answered.....I just think any newb that passes through here should know that they can get that Casino Royale for under $20 all day long.

Is there a reason you are singling out Dave Z?  Show me another dealer that lists a DS Casino Royale for less than $20?  You can't equate no reserve auction prices with dealer pricing.  They will never match up and you'll only get yourself worked up for nothing my friend.
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 07:00:31 PM
Is there a reason you are singling out Dave Z? 

?

Read the thread.

He asked anyone to tell him to fuck off.  If another parasite had asked me to tell him I would have.
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
I can vouch for that directly... I've sold posters through Dave and netted (sometimes significantly) more than what I would have at auction at places like eMovie, HA, Christies, etc...  and that takes into account all associated fees from both sides.

I would do the same thing...That has nothing to do with trying to fuck newbs .
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Post by: CJ138 on April 06, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
Dave,
Do your posters come with 22 year old beautiful bartenders? If so I will take two please.

Conor
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Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on April 06, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
Dave,
Do your posters come with 22 year old beautiful bartenders? If so I will take two please.

Conor

 ;D
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 07:09:55 PM
If you are ever in Scottsdale, I can definitely arrange it.  8)
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Post by: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:03:28 PM
I would do the same thing...That has nothing to do with trying to fuck newbs .

? so,  you are happy to have someone else sell your items in a manner that you feel is immoral?

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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
? so,  you are happy to have someone else sell your items in a manner that you feel is immoral?



No

The scumbag asked so I answered.

Its really pretty simple.

Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.

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Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 07:35:27 PM

I love you zorba....even if you are a bit misguided. :-*
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 07:35:27 PM
I love you zorba....even if you are a bit misguided. :-*

Ty teflon don of poster scammers...

I now understand why all those threads where you get busted misrepresenting posters one way or another all die.

You have friends...You should be proud.
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Post by: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
I might be slow but:


Quote from: Harry Caul on Today at 05:57:41 PM
I can vouch for that directly... I've sold posters through Dave and netted (sometimes significantly) more than what I would have at auction at places like eMovie, HA, Christies, etc...  and that takes into account all associated fees from both sides.

  your reply...

I would do the same thing...That has nothing to do with trying to fuck newbs .
Report to moderator     


maybe I am reading wrong?

Not hassling, just curious.
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
I might be slow but:

Maybe I am reading wrong?

Not hassling, just curious.

1) you are not slow
2) you are reading right...I DO NOT equate Harrys sale to the example of the 06 Royale for $200. That is not the same thing and you know it. tsk tsk tsk... :-[ for you
3) you are hassling

I surrender...

Once again I now understand why all the threads and there are VERY many of them where dave "accidently " lists fakes , video posters and reissues as originals all die out....NO IM NOT SEARCHING.... I read some of them on your site.

Fucking pathetic.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
I might be slow but:


Quote from: Harry Caul on Today at 05:57:41 PM
I can vouch for that directly... I've sold posters through Dave and netted (sometimes significantly) more than what I would have at auction at places like eMovie, HA, Christies, etc...  and that takes into account all associated fees from both sides.

  your reply...

I would do the same thing...That has nothing to do with trying to fuck newbs .
Report to moderator     


maybe I am reading wrong?

Not hassling, just curious.

I don't think you are reading wrong Ari... Z, you can't have it both ways. 

If a noob buys a $20 poster (according to eBay) from Dave for $200, I'm pretty sure they will have invested more than $180 in their time to figure out how to find it cheaper consistently.  Some people live and learn (and invest their time), others are fine paying for the privilege of not having to learn the nitty gritty details of this hobby.  And by the way, Dave has helped publish those nitty gritty details on his site over the years so tight wads like us can wade through the shit on eBay and still end up with genuine originals. 
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:56:48 PM
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/white_flag.jpg)

But not without WITHOUT GREAT DISGUST!

The old boy network is pretty gross.
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Post by: Ari on April 06, 2011, 07:58:50 PM
I might add, Dave can tell you (permission granted) I am sure (I assume he keeps a database - but in this case I think he wont need it) exactly how much money I have spent on his items and how many items I have sold through him.
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
 sm1
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 08:12:50 PM

I don't think Ari has ever bought from me, but I think after I got burned on a few fake spiderman/bootleg one sheets I may have sent him a free one at that time?

I love how zorba puts "accidently" in quotes.

( "accidently " lists fakes , video posters and reissues)

inferring that any minor mistakes we make are on purpose.....which is just plain ridiculous.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 08:12:50 PM

inferring that any minor mistakes we make are on purpose.....which is just plain ridiculous.



 ;)

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Post by: CJ138 on April 06, 2011, 08:18:30 PM
Zorba,
I have never bought or sold through CineMasterpieces.  I don't because Dave's prices are quite high (which he freely acknowledges).  Are your comments based on frustration because (like me) you refuse to buy things you want from Dave at his prices *cough- Dawn of the Dead green text-cough*. Or do you have past business where you felt genuinely deceived?  I came across CineMasterpieces when I began collecting (01 or 02) but a couple of quick searches and research reads and I knew it was more than I was willing to pay. I would be surprised if a new collector bought from Dave because I would think most would research the hell out of this hobby first.  I mean if you are willing to look for ORIGINAL movie posters as opposed to 24x36 5 buck reprints chances are you will educate yourself a good amount before a purchase.  I want to be clear that I am not taking sides just trying to understand.  

Conor
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Post by: Cj on April 06, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Dave and his high prices have been the topic of conversation many times in the past. No matter how many times it's brought up, its not going to change the way he runs his business. He has been successful and more power to him. I have never bought or consigned anything with Dave and have had it out with him in the past. All said, he is one of the good guys of the hobby even if his prices are as big as his head. Like a few others on this thread, Dave's prices have been valuable to me when trying to justify the money spent to the wife.

Cj
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Post by: Cj on April 06, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Hey Dave - run a sale or two so I can afford your high prices. :)
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on April 06, 2011, 08:18:30 PM
Zorba,
I have never bought or sold through CineMasterpieces.  

Me either ...I was just answering this....
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.

and it just escalated forum style...I could have been nicer but Im me  8)

If you do want to know more about this exciting hobby... you will be able to read some cool stuff on some old threads on NSF and MoPo.

I did alot of reading on Ari's board http://stylec.yuku.com/forums/63/t/Movie-Poster-Discussion.html

I promised surrender and no links so ....
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 08:28:49 PM

what's a "sale"?
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Post by: Ari on April 06, 2011, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 08:12:50 PM
I don't think Ari has ever bought from me, but I think after I got burned on a few fake spiderman/bootleg one sheets I may have sent him a free one at that time?


Yeah thats right, you bought my soul with that fake Spiderman ;)

And what I mean is, if I don't like the price, I don't buy the item, and everyone has that same right.

I might add, as far as I remember, I haven't bought from Sean, Bruce, HA, or most of the other big players either.

Take my time, and buy when the price suits me.

When I see someone driving a Hummer (sorry Dave, just keeping it on topic) I laugh at them for wasting $, not get mad at the dealer who made a fortune on the sale.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 06, 2011, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
...I was just answering this....

Quote
and if anybody wants to tell me to go fuck myself, now would be the appropriate time.

and it just escalated forum style...I could have been nicer but Im me  8)

I believe Dave was referencing said picture, where his head was placed on both Mr. Gere's and Mrs. Robert's bodies... I'm plying that he might actually have the opportunity to 'fuck himself'.   ;D
 

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/pretty_dave.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 08:36:56 PM
Quote from: Cj on April 06, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Dave's prices have been valuable to me when trying to justify the money spent to the wife.

Yes plus they can be a great price guide.........

First you take a post 1980 poster dave has valued at over $100.
Divide his price by 6 and then by 10.
You will have the high and low value of that poster.
Its not perfect but you will find its pretty good especially since there is no real price guide.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 06, 2011, 09:13:18 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 08:28:49 PM
what's a "sale"?

(http://carinbondar.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/sail.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on April 06, 2011, 09:59:53 PM

CJ said "Or do you have past business where you felt genuinely deceived?"

I would like to state that for the record....there has NEVER been a complaint from one of our buyers on ANY of the message boards about us where they felt we had deceived them in any way regarding a transaction.

No one has EVER complained publicly (or privately to us for that matter) that they may have paid too much.

We have NEVER sold a fake or video poster wrongly described as original/theatrical. NEVER! Of course we have made a few minor errors in our descriptions every now and then (who hasn't?), but we have always fixed the info. before the posters were ever sold to anyone. Admittedly, sometimes it took a bit of prodding for us to make the changes (as I need real hard evidence usually to convince me that I may be wrong)....but we have gotten better!

We generally sell about 2500 to 3000 posters a year.......and no one has EVER complained that we did not offer a prompt refund if they were unhappy with an item (which happens about 3 or 4 times a year on average). Our return policy is second to none.

Have packages ever gone missing? Yes, once in a blue moon it happens...and we will provide a full refund or send out a replacement if we have one.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 10:00:23 PM
Can someone authenticate Wonka's pic for me?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 06, 2011, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 06, 2011, 10:00:23 PM
Can someone authenticate Wonka's pic for me?

Which one, Carroll O' Connor or the boat?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 06, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
I can, 100% Joint Photography Experts Group formatted image, for display on web browsers and home computers. Genuine, and original.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 06, 2011, 10:50:16 PM
Think about it this way.... CMast offered a free PRETTY WOMAN poster (a 555.00 value  uhno), with the purchase of the $25K THE GHOUL OS.

That way, you really are only having to cough up $24,445.00 ...

And where is Jeannie at a time like this.. i think she would love that PW poster for her dining room!  laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 06, 2011, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 06, 2011, 10:07:27 PM
I can, 100% Joint Photography Experts Group formatted image, for display on web browsers and home computers. Genuine, and original.

Sweet and free too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on April 07, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Zorba on April 06, 2011, 07:56:48 PM
The old boy network is pretty gross.

You should try posting something negative on the Alamo thread sometime. 
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Post by: Neo on April 07, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
Not to make this a thread about Cinemasterpieces and Dave, but just my $0.02, in my buying/selling transactions with Dave, he does seem like a good guy.  Although it is easy to point the finger at someone for selling something at a much higher price than the vast majority and label him/her as "the bad guy", it's truly just a different approach to selling.  Examples are endless but as I remember someone else mentioning before, Tiffany's is a good example, as one can go there and pay probably 5-10 times more for basically the exact same thing that can be bought elsewhere, but they are in business for the same reasons Dave and anyone else for that matter is in business, and I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that most people understand the additional costs, and (of course) the additional peace of mind when buying from them.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2011, 03:12:00 PM
YAWN, YAWN....

She has returned.. @ $33,500.00 or best offer.... deadhorse

we all know who... ;)

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Post by: Ari on April 11, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
ahh well HE does no harm.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 12, 2011, 04:38:25 PM
why do some people believe it's wrong for Nate to ask whatever he wants to for a poster he owns and paid for with his own cash?

such thoughts are among the most juvenile that cross the brain's synapse
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Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2011, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 11, 2011, 09:28:34 PM
ahh well HE does no harm.



True, Ari.. no harm at all. certainly nothing was suggested. I left my post as a simple statement because when brought up before, other members seemed to have grown tired of seeing this poster mentioned on APF, yet again. (Hence the use of the  deadhorse ).

And nate certainly can list it for whatever he wishes. Nothing was said to the contrary, in that regard. The BIN price was stated as simple fact.



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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 12, 2011, 05:17:11 PM
I don't watch this thread very often - which poster is back again and has a $33 billion asking price?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2011, 05:25:19 PM
GILDA   ;)
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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 12, 2011, 05:28:39 PM
Shows how often is comes up. That was my guess, and I'm only here once a couple of weeks.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2011, 07:36:48 PM
Or a Style B one sheet, BIN $12,900.00--  :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/RITA-HAYWORTH-GLENN-FORD-GILDA-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1946-/380331104807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588d801a27

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!l4E2EO(13)dBNn81d6D7!~~0_3.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2011, 05:35:51 PM
Discovered this, listed for sale, on Ebay. It's the beautiful quad, for TO CATCH A THIEF, previously owned by our own Scartacus and discussed about a year ago, here on APF, when he had it cleaned, lightly restored and backed. (He's not the current seller, however). Listed with a BIN of 1950 GBP ($3171.00 USD) or best offer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CATCH-THIEF-UK-quad-poster-HITCHCOCK-1955-ROLLED-/320680465698?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4aaa0b9522

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqMOKogE1z1gzewJBNmM-QLndQ~~_3.JPG)


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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 13, 2011, 05:58:01 PM
What the hell?

http://cgi.ebay.com/English-1sht-movie-poster-RAIDERS-LOST-ARK-1981-/350455492176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5198c66e50#ht_750wt_905

So I've been looking for this poster for a while. This seller has listed this poster twice, I've been in touch with him a number of times about whether or not he has another one of these posters without tape and pin damage. The damage is pretty bad considering what it should be. There are 2-3 pinholes in each corner, the tape has stained the paper, and there are stray pinholes in unusual parts of the poster. He has been listing it for $49.99 and not received a single bid all three times I've seen it.

Now he's decided to list the same poster for $125. What?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 13, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on April 13, 2011, 05:58:01 PM

Now he's decided to list the same poster for $125. What?

It is actually extremely common for sellers to do this...with anything, not just posters, on ebay.  If no nibbles at their initial bid is made, they will throw it on their BIN shelf with a higher price, with the hopes of it selling on a rainy day to the right person...in most cases it will sell eventually, as does everything.

This poster for that price...will probably take awhile, but who knows.

If you want Raiders, get RAIDERS, with the classic font and everything...but we have already touched on your blasphemy here lately, haven't we? ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on April 13, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
Here is one you guys will be fighting over..check out the Hi-def pics..

Bargain (http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/indiana-jones-poster-in-frame-collectable/77117677)
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Post by: 110x75 on April 13, 2011, 07:11:21 PM
I`ll buy it.

The seller`s pic convinced me...
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 13, 2011, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 13, 2011, 07:11:21 PM
I`ll buy it.

The seller`s pic convinced me...

If you want i can send "the boys" round to maybe "negotiate a discount"...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CJ138 on April 13, 2011, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 13, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
If you want Raiders, get RAIDERS, with the classic font and everything...but we have already touched on your blasphemy here lately, haven't we? ;)

I agreen Ben, if you want it make an offer. Honestly, it is a great poster and will probably only get more expensive with time.

Conor
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Post by: wonka on April 13, 2011, 08:15:36 PM
Hi Conor,
I didn't phrase it well in my post, but I personally do not like the UK anything for Raiders. Both the  US initial release one sheet and RR one sheet are classic images, and for many reasons.  The infamous Raiders font alone on those two vs. this UK issue makes it no contest.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CJ138 on April 13, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
I think you were clear I did'nt pay enough attention. jameson 1780 is to blame. either way offer 40 or 50 bucks Anthony....
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Post by: wonka on April 13, 2011, 09:08:46 PM
I agree with the $40 offer to start, up to $50 need be...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2011, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 13, 2011, 07:11:21 PM
I`ll buy it.

The seller`s pic convinced me...

If only the glare wasnt so harsh!!   laugh1

Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2011, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on April 13, 2011, 05:58:01 PM
What the hell?

http://cgi.ebay.com/English-1sht-movie-poster-RAIDERS-LOST-ARK-1981-/350455492176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5198c66e50#ht_750wt_905

So I've been looking for this poster for a while. This seller has listed this poster twice, I've been in touch with him a number of times about whether or not he has another one of these posters without tape and pin damage. The damage is pretty bad considering what it should be. There are 2-3 pinholes in each corner, the tape has stained the paper, and there are stray pinholes in unusual parts of the poster. He has been listing it for $49.99 and not received a single bid all three times I've seen it.

Now he's decided to list the same poster for $125. What?


Offer him 49.99... and stress those tape stains in the corners...  ;)  .. maybe he will go for it.. and still give you free shipping... :-\

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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 14, 2011, 12:15:04 AM
I must not have been clear initially.

I want this poster, but not in this condition. When it first surfaced I sent him a message asking if he might have a second poster in nicer condition, which he did not. I asked for a number of close-up pictures of the damage and was really put out. It has too many pinholes and the tape damage is extremely unsightly. Even at $49.99, I couldn't bring myself to buy a UK Raiders poster in that condition. I knew that even if I bought this damaged one I'd be sitting there waiting for a nicer one to replace it, and $50 is a lot to drop on a placeholder.

I was simply remarking that after two failed 10-day cycles at $49.99 he upped the price to $125, although Wonka's explanation makes sense. And it it makes you feel any better, Mr. Wonka, I have an Amsel-art Raiders daybill on the way as we speak.

And before anybody gets on my back for buying a daybill, I prefer the wording of the text better. In our last thread I explained that the subtle text changed makes Indy sound more like a new roller coaster at a popular theme park where the 1-Sheet makes him sound more like a new flavor of ice cream. I also accidentally insinuated that Indiana Jones was bisexual and it was a quality I particularly fancied in the character. Sometimes I'm bad at explaining things.
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Post by: eatbrie on April 14, 2011, 12:38:11 AM
Anthony, this poster is not that rare.  Don't get something you don't really want, even at a low price.  What's the point.  There are a few more Raiders poster I'm looking for to finish my collection, so I'm always on the lookout.  I'll let you know the next time a clean one pops up.

T
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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 14, 2011, 01:04:22 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 14, 2011, 12:38:11 AM
Anthony, this poster is not that rare.  Don't get something you don't really want, even at a low price.  What's the point.  There are a few more Raiders poster I'm looking for to finish my collection, so I'm always on the lookout.  I'll let you know the next time a clean one pops up.

T

Yeah, thanks Thierry. There's one on eMovie right now but it has an NZ rating stamp on it that makes me not want it. I've been waiting patiently for some time and will continue to do so. I never had the intention of buying some poor quality copy, but when something's there you want you do pay some attention.
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Post by: Ogami_Itto on April 14, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
I am sorry but how do you

"accidentally insinuated that Indiana Jones was bisexual and it was a quality I particularly fancied in the character."

thats a hell of an accidental statement.
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Post by: wonka on April 14, 2011, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: Ogami_Itto on April 14, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
I am sorry but how do you

"accidentally insinuated that Indiana Jones was bisexual and it was a quality I particularly fancied in the character."

thats a hell of an accidental statement.

Yeah. I agree.

I am going to speak to the mods about having Anthony temporarily banned for his ridiculousness.  whip
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Post by: erik1925 on April 14, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: Ogami_Itto on April 14, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
I am sorry but how do you

"accidentally insinuated that Indiana Jones was bisexual and it was a quality I particularly fancied in the character."

thats a hell of an accidental statement.

Indeed...

Different strokes for different folks, is all I can say..  he already has the whip  if Anthony hopes that he swings both ways...   laugh1

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Post by: brude on April 14, 2011, 07:21:08 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on April 13, 2011, 07:06:48 PM
Here is one you guys will be fighting over..check out the Hi-def pics..

Bargain (http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/indiana-jones-poster-in-frame-collectable/77117677)

Jeezum crow, I was gonna jump on this 'un cuz the pic is so good, then I read this...
"Has creases from magazine fold but still looks great. £50 ONO"
 spew
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Post by: erik1925 on April 14, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
Quote from: brude on April 14, 2011, 07:21:08 PM
Jeezum crow, I was gonna jump on this 'un cuz the pic is so good, then I read this...
"Has creases from magazine fold but still looks great. £50 ONO"
 spew


I wonder what that means? "creases from magazine fold..."
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Post by: brude on April 14, 2011, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 14, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
I wonder what that means? "creases from magazine fold..."

Sounds like it is a fold-out poster from a magazine and not a true movie poster.
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Post by: wonka on April 15, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
Thierry, I found this E.T. poster I bet you don't have for your collection.

Better be quick, someone else might grab it:

E.T. rarity up NOW. (http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTRATERRESTRE-SEXUAL-EROTIC-MOVIE-POSTER-ARG-1sh-/320686029727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aaa607b9f)
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 15, 2011, 10:31:22 AM
That is awesome Ben!  I think the producers of that film should sue Spielberg... it says this poster is from the 70s so clearly that is where Spielberg got his inspiration for his landmark 1982 film!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 15, 2011, 10:35:22 AM
Ha, yep...Spielberg is obviously plagiarizing this project...I mean its so blatant!

Also, I have to say that the look on E.T.'s face is pretty realistic when you take into account what is happening south of the border. Go E.T., Go!
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Post by: CSM on April 15, 2011, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: wonka on April 15, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
Thierry, I found this E.T. poster I bet you don't have for your collection.

Better be quick, someone else might grab it:

E.T. rarity up NOW. (http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTRATERRESTRE-SEXUAL-EROTIC-MOVIE-POSTER-ARG-1sh-/320686029727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aaa607b9f)

Classic!
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Post by: 110x75 on April 15, 2011, 11:22:50 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 15, 2011, 10:31:22 AM
That is awesome Ben!  I think the producers of that film should sue Spielberg... it says this poster is from the 70s so clearly that is where Spielberg got his inspiration for his landmark 1982 film!

And then Spielberg could sue the producers of this 1983 argentinean film called "los extraterrestres" (the extraterrestrials) that shamelessly plagiarized E.T. (and the alien was was even lamer that the one in wonka`s link)

(http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/jm/img?s=MLA&f=94744400_3535.jpg&v=E)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cK3H0lzJINA/TOtHKMEImpI/AAAAAAAAFlo/cWkzXUDAA9w/s1600/bscap0005pe5.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 05:58:19 PM
375 one sheets.. from the 70's and 80's.. for just $20,635.00   jawdrop

http://cgi.ebay.com/27x41-1Sht-One-sheet-Movie-Poster-Collection-375-titles-/360349407366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e67f9886

i guess it would be one way to jump start a collection...  ;)

Jeff

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Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
Are these things rare? They may not be valuable, but they sure would look cool in a true Star Wars buffs room!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2154372 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2154372)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_anakin_skywalker_style_NZ01820_L.jpg)(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_battle_droid_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_darth_maul_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_obi_wan_kenobi_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_queen_amidala_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_qui_gon_jinn_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_watto_style_NZ01820_L.jpg)
Bruce
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Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 11:53:40 AM
How about these? I wish I knew anything about these kinds of things!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2160070 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2160070)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/vinyl_banner_batman_returns_set_of_4_c_NZ01966_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/vinyl_banner_batman_returns_set_of_4_a_NZ01966_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/vinyl_banner_batman_returns_set_of_4_b_NZ01966_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/vinyl_banner_batman_returns_set_of_4_d_NZ01966_L.jpg)

Bruce
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Post by: longdog on April 16, 2011, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 11:49:47 AM
Are these things rare? They may not be valuable, but they sure would look cool in a true Star Wars buffs room!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2154372 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2154372)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_anakin_skywalker_style_NZ01820_L.jpg)(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_battle_droid_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_darth_maul_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_obi_wan_kenobi_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_queen_amidala_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_qui_gon_jinn_style_NZ01820_L.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/bus_stop_phantom_menace_watto_style_NZ01820_L.jpg)
Bruce

Hard to say exactly what value to put on these at the moment but it is rare to see a complete set (we never had the Jar Jar or Mace Windu styles here in the UK) and to also see them in great condition. The rare ones are the robot and Wato which didn't seem to have the same print run (or usage) as the other characters.

Paul.

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Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 12:20:34 PM
Yeah Paul I could see anyone hanging up five of these by themselves, but I can't imagine anyone displaying just the robot or Wato by themselves.
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Post by: wonka on April 18, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
My birthday is coming up in early May, I was hoping that my homies here would perhaps work out a group gift, it would be a really nice gesture.

I love you all very much. It's true. (http://cgi.ebay.com/VERTIGO-HITCHCOCK-JAMES-STEWART-R-1961-INTL-1SHT-LB-/150593829636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2310177b04/)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2011, 03:15:05 PM
Wonka, I love you too. But I can't afford $4500.. will this poster do?

http://cgi.ebay.com/GLEE-Original-DVD-Movie-POSTER-NEW-/230593218018?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b06d45e2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/GLEE-Original-DVD-Movie-POSTER-NEW-/230593218018?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b06d45e2)
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Post by: Chop-Top on April 23, 2011, 11:32:53 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 18, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
My birthday is coming up in early May, I was hoping that my homies here would perhaps work out a group gift, it would be a really nice gesture.

I love you all very much. It's true. (http://cgi.ebay.com/VERTIGO-HITCHCOCK-JAMES-STEWART-R-1961-INTL-1SHT-LB-/150593829636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2310177b04/)

I wouldn't pay $20 for it.  eyeroll
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Post by: eatbrie on April 24, 2011, 01:06:11 AM
Quote from: Chop-Top on April 23, 2011, 11:32:53 PM
I wouldn't pay $20 for it.  eyeroll

For sure, it's one ugly poster.

C'mon Ben, can't you find something better?
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Post by: CJ138 on April 24, 2011, 08:34:03 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 15, 2011, 11:22:50 AM
And then Spielberg could sue the producers of this 1983 argentinean film called "los extraterrestres" (the extraterrestrials) that shamelessly plagiarized E.T. (and the alien was was even lamer that the one in wonka`s link)

(http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/jm/img?s=MLA&f=94744400_3535.jpg&v=E)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cK3H0lzJINA/TOtHKMEImpI/AAAAAAAAFlo/cWkzXUDAA9w/s1600/bscap0005pe5.jpg)
What about the timeless classic: EXTRATERRESTRE SEXUAL
So disturbing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTRATERRESTRE-SEXUAL-EROTIC-MOVIE-POSTER-ARG-1sh-/320686029727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aaa607b9f
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Post by: erik1925 on April 24, 2011, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on April 24, 2011, 08:34:03 AM
What about the timeless classic: EXTRATERRESTRE SEXUAL
So disturbing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTRATERRESTRE-SEXUAL-EROTIC-MOVIE-POSTER-ARG-1sh-/320686029727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aaa607b9f


Doesnt ET deserve a little love, too? Especially when he's SO far from home??   laugh1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!CFc(FrwBGk~$(KGrHqIOKiwE0nENhog-BNVFHEd4c!~~_12.JPG)
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Post by: longdog on April 24, 2011, 03:22:22 PM
I'm guessing the brunette is finding out what makes his finger glow!  cool1
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Post by: brude on April 25, 2011, 03:13:53 PM
What is up with this?  I sold one last year for $10...

http://cgi.ebay.com/BASIL-GOGOS-HORROR-ART-1970s-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/180655802451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0fecc853 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BASIL-GOGOS-HORROR-ART-1970s-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/180655802451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0fecc853)

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Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: brude on April 25, 2011, 03:13:53 PM
What is up with this?  I sold one last year for $10...

http://cgi.ebay.com/BASIL-GOGOS-HORROR-ART-1970s-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/180655802451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0fecc853 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BASIL-GOGOS-HORROR-ART-1970s-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/180655802451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0fecc853)



Ted,

Look at the bid history.. looks a little odd, doesnt it? 

Jeff
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Post by: brude on April 25, 2011, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 25, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Ted,

Look at the bid history.. looks a little odd, doesnt it? 

Jeff

It does....do you think there's a con going on?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 26, 2011, 12:41:05 AM
Quote from: brude on April 25, 2011, 06:02:02 PM
It does....do you think there's a con going on?


Maybe some shilling? Purely conjecture, of course....
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
Is this a legitimate re-release or a repro? The seller claims that this poster is for the 1975 re-release but gives the dimensions as 26x40. He says it hasn't been trimmed. I can't see any apparent printer's info on the border, either. This B/W version of the amazing color 1939 first release is pretty good. On close inspection, the Hound's mouth and added teeth in the bottom jaw, on the re-release, are different from the original.

Thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sherlock-Holmes-HOUND-BASKERVILLES-Poster-/110680536931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c512f763

 
(http://www.loopgraphix.com/pictures15/posterbaskervilles400x606_01.jpg)

First release, as a comparison:
(http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/142791.1020.A.jpg)


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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
Jeff, check this out:

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=161118&Lot_No=53200
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Hey Chris.. thanks.. it's same exact reworked art. So the year is right. I was asking because the poster is smaller than the normal OS of the period by an inch on both sides.

So it is genuine you think? 

Jeff
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 29, 2011, 03:00:01 PM
Hey Chris.. thanks.. it's same exact reworked art. So the year is right. I was asking because the poster is smaller than the normal OS of the period by an inch on both sides.

So it is genuine you think? 

Jeff

I can't say for 100% certain it is, but with the window card being the same and the clear fold lines on the OS, on a balance of probabilities I would be comfortable buying it as a legitimate 70s release...
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 29, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 29, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
...on a balance of probabilities I would be comfortable buying it as a legitimate 70s release...

But I imagine not for the US $879.95 asking price!
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Post by: jayn_j on April 29, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
But I imagine not for the US $879.95 asking price!

I think not, especially considering Bruce sold one for under $60 last year.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15005730.html

Given the timing, this could be the same poster.
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Post by: longdog on April 29, 2011, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
But I imagine not for the US $879.95 asking price!

Or even the $1239.95 the seller was originally asking;

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sherlock-Holmes-HOUND-BASKERVILLES-Poster-/110664536309?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c41ed0f5#ht_9486wt_1086
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2011, 05:28:09 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on April 29, 2011, 05:22:40 PM
I think not, especially considering Bruce sold one for under $60 last year.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15005730.html

Given the timing, this could be the same poster.

Hmmm I checked Bruce's records before I posted and somehow missed that!
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2011, 05:30:20 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2011, 05:02:00 PM
But I imagine not for the US $879.95 asking price!

 ;D  In all honesty I didn't even look at the price.  My recommendation would to be wait until it's down to $878.95
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Post by: Bruce on April 29, 2011, 05:32:25 PM
"I think not, especially considering Bruce sold one for under $60 last year."

Even MORE absolute proof there are unbelievable bargains in our auctions!

 woohoo cheers sm1 woohoo cheers sm1

Bruce
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Post by: jayn_j on April 29, 2011, 05:34:49 PM
I looked more closely.  The turkey used Bruce's picture and even lifted the condition description word for word.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2011, 05:50:46 PM
I agree.. 879.95 is too high for this...   :o  It's too bad that he also didnt lift Bruce's price (or even a ballpark figure).  ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 29, 2011, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on April 29, 2011, 05:34:49 PM
I looked more closely.  The turkey used Bruce's picture and even lifted the condition description word for word.

I thought those magnets looked familiar!
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Post by: wonka on April 30, 2011, 10:44:36 AM
This is a good one. In his efforts to move this poster he bought from Dave, he is using the Cinemasterpieces photo (cropped) and hopes the letter of authenticity will help speed things up for a happy ending in his paypal account.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Friday-13th-Rare-Horror-Slasher-Film-Movie-Jason-/300552576855?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item45fa545f57 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Friday-13th-Rare-Horror-Slasher-Film-Movie-Jason-/300552576855?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item45fa545f57)

The best part is his typed puffery (my favorite parts are in bold):

"FRIDAY THE 13th" (1980)

This is an extremely rare, stunning example of an absolutely original "27x 41" U.S Theatrical 1-Sheet Film Poster of Sean S. Cunningham's classic slasher film "Friday the 13th" (1980).

Graded C-9 – C-10 MINT. Please view photos. This is the actual poster. This example is extremely rare as it is ORIGINAL, MINT, and ROLLED, not folded.

Impossible to find. I have collected film posters for over 35 years. This is perhaps the finest example in existence. You will not find a better example. In my many years of collecting, buying and selling horror/sci-fi/film memorabilia I have only seen 7 other rolled examples of this film (I bought, owned and sold 3), and none were in this condition. Artwork by Alex Ebel.

This poster was purchased through the most revered original film poster seller/company in the world, CinemaMasterpieces. I have the Silver Certificate of Authenticity (COA) and Personal Signature from the owner of the company, Mr. David A. Lieberman (view photo).

One of the greatest horror film posters of all time. Here’s your chance to own a mint, extremely rare and stunning "Friday the 13th" (1980).
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
And consider, too, that if one wants to spend a premium for this poster, one can get a C9-10, rolled copy direct from Cm for ONLY 455.00 (per the site).  

What is a "Silver" COA? Anyone know?

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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 01, 2011, 04:17:29 AM
http://cgi.ebay.de/Kinoplakat-James-Bond-Man-lebt-nur-zweimal-/130512907959?pt=Poster&hash=item1e632ceeb7

8-9 times out of 10 its a re-issue up for grabs.......
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Post by: brude on May 07, 2011, 10:38:10 AM
Think this might be a typo?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672180776&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672180776&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

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Post by: erik1925 on May 07, 2011, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: brude on May 07, 2011, 10:38:10 AM
Think this might be a typo?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672180776&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280672180776&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)



I think so ted... the comma should actually have been the decimal point..  ;D

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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2011, 02:37:02 PM
   $7800.00    :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/FROM-RUSSIA-LOVE-64-B-ORIG-MINT-JAMES-BOND-/120724721614?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bc10fce

(http://i21.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/c9/b1/fb21_1.JPG)

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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRIDE-FRANKENSTEIN-FIRST-RELEASE-KARLOFF-POSTER-/270749484003?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3f09ed43e3

looks to be an 8x10 theater flyer

$40,520.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKjsE2)lj5cONBNzq)00fvg~~_12.JPG)

reverse side:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKj!E26J262!qBNzq)9)1pQ~~_12.JPG)






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Post by: CSM on May 14, 2011, 03:49:10 PM
$40,000 US?!   eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll
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Post by: brude on May 14, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Pretty friggin' steep I'd say....
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 14, 2011, 03:49:10 PM
$40,000 US?!   eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll

Yuppers!!   jawdrop
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Post by: Louie D. on May 14, 2011, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 14, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRIDE-FRANKENSTEIN-FIRST-RELEASE-KARLOFF-POSTER-/270749484003?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3f09ed43e3

looks to be an 8x10 theater flyer

$40,520.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKjsE2)lj5cONBNzq)00fvg~~_12.JPG)



I don't know about anyone else but I have a bunch of these period movie theater flyers and this looks like a reproduction to me.  I have never seen one where there was the artwork for the film and then a white border around it.  Looks like someone got screwed.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2011, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 14, 2011, 08:31:58 PM


Louie-- i just posted a pic of the reverse side. The white border does look odd, but appears to be fully printed on the back.

And no one has bought it yet. I can't imagine it would sell for that price.  

Jeff
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Post by: CSM on May 14, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
The herald isn't even worth close to that so why would someone even consider that one page piece for the price of a family sedan with all the options?
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Post by: Louie D. on May 15, 2011, 02:56:26 AM
I have a flyer with this image on it that I will let go for 2k.  Any buyers?  eyeroll



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/robertpollard/images2404-1.jpg)
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Post by: brude on May 15, 2011, 10:21:22 AM
That is special, Louie.
I've heard about this FRANKENSTEIN movie...a remake of the Edison classic, right?  wynk
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2011, 02:21:03 PM
Louie, if you hold out and advertise it just right, i think you would have no problem getting at least 5 for it...  ;)

Serious tho.. what size is your flyer?

It's very nice.


Jeff

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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
2 mil..  :o

Certainly is one way to get your listing to the top, when sorted by price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-LIGHTBOX-Theater-Sign-Display-Lights-/120725159056?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bc7bc90


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 15, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 14, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
The herald isn't even worth close to that so why would someone even consider that one page piece for the price of a family sedan with all the options?

the possibility of anyone considering that price Chris is 1 in 6 trillion
seeing as there are what - 7billion people living on Earth - that % possibility is taking into account all past & present people living or dead.. I think a dead person may buy it. a living person who can actually think? not so much
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Post by: CSM on May 15, 2011, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 15, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
the possibility of anyone considering that price Chris is 1 in 6 trillion
seeing as there are what - 7billion people living on Earth - that % possibility is taking into account all past & present people living or dead.. I think a dead person may buy it. a living person who can actually think? not so much

I dunno Rich there are A LOT of idiots in this world - living and dead.  The living ones scare me the most!






And of course I was not actually insinuating that someone (even a corpse!) would ever buy it, just making a point that the herald is out there if someone (a zombie maybe? - neither alive nor dead!) wanted ephemera for Bride...
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Post by: Louie D. on May 15, 2011, 05:40:34 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2011, 02:21:03 PM
Louie, if you hold out and advertise it just right, i think you would have no problem getting at least 5 for it...  ;)

Serious tho.. what size is your flyer?

It's very nice.


Jeff


It's just one of those weekly movie theater flyers that adverts a bunch of these cut ads in them, so it isn't just a Franky flyer.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2011, 06:00:25 PM
A nice piece, in any case.   thumbup

Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Hand painted in Egypt --  $150K   :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/Farewell-My-Love-Egyptian-Hand-Painted-Billboard-Poster-/390278187819?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ade648b2b
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Post by: brude on May 23, 2011, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 23, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
Hand painted in Egypt --  $150K   :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/Farewell-My-Love-Egyptian-Hand-Painted-Billboard-Poster-/390278187819?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ade648b2b

No shit?
Now, where the hell is my check book....
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Post by: Disheveledamethyst on May 24, 2011, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
2 mil..  :o

Certainly is one way to get your listing to the top, when sorted by price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-LIGHTBOX-Theater-Sign-Display-Lights-/120725159056?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1bc7bc90




I don't know if it's already been said, but I find it hysterically ironic that the seller's name is "discount home theatre lightboxes".
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Post by: erik1925 on May 24, 2011, 12:31:18 AM
Quote from: brude on May 23, 2011, 11:44:59 PM
No shit?
Now, where the hell is my check book....

Maybe with this buy you also get a tin, gold painted replica King Tut death mask..  pcorn
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
For all those (like myself) that truly appreciate Chaney's version of PHANTOM OF THE OPERA:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PHANTOM-OPERA-02-CHANEY-MOVIE-POSTER192-/130522557987?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e63c02e23&clk_rvr_id=236158841443


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqF,!iUE3T(+FUgVBN1Q3PNy4w~~0_3.JPG)


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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
Pshhh...pocket change Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 29, 2011, 10:44:40 PM
Pshhh...pocket change Jeff

Chris,

I know.. he said he would take payment in pennies...




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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2011, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 29, 2011, 10:50:46 PM
Chris,

I know.. he said he would take payment in pennies...


I am hoping Canadian pennies!
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2011, 10:54:35 PM
Benito has some rare and unusual stuff... but he charges a pretty-- em -- penny... (canadian or otherwise)..   mesmrized
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Post by: paul waines on May 30, 2011, 06:31:01 AM
A couple of things get me about this, and I maybe wrong is that a 70's release poster? or maybe 80's, as there is no way that is 1925... It's an unusual poster, but has no relation to Lon's Phantom bar his name being on it. Mel could do that with any poster on here.

Would I buy it, maybe but my top price would be £30, and I'm a huge fan of Lon Snr, and his version of the Phantom...    Pennies is what it's worth.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 30, 2011, 06:31:01 AM
A couple of things get me about this, and I maybe wrong is that a 70's release poster? or maybe 80's, as there is no way that is 1925... It's an unusual poster, but has no relation to Lon's Phantom bar his name being on it. Mel could do that with any poster on here.

Would I buy it, maybe but my top price would be £30, and I'm a huge fan of Lon Snr, and his version of the Phantom...    Pennies is what it's worth.

Paul.

I have wondered about the date of this piece, too. Even the UNIVERSAL FILM font looks more modern, to me. The image used on it is actually a character briefly seen in the movie and is also described in the book, as well. It is the Rat Catcher, who first appears as a glowing, disembodied head. He warns Raoul and The Persian, Ledoux, to turn back and stop searching for the Phantom's lair, "..lest ye parish..."

Here's a screen grab from the film showing this image (although it was not shot in closeup, in the film:

(http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/75d367c41468a8c4c65b85afea377b2471181235.jpg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqF,!iUE3T(+FUgVBN1Q3PNy4w~~0_1.JPG)

Jeff




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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2011, 02:22:11 PM
If I had to choose, I'd rather have this Swedish poster for PHANTOM... and it's only about 3000.00 less!   :o

http://cgi.ebay.com/PHANTOM-OPERA-59-CHANEY-MOVIE-POSTER1925-/130523287328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e63cb4f20

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqZ,!iwE3Q7bSCl3BN15vzc5Ig~~0_3.JPG)
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Post by: CSM on May 30, 2011, 02:24:54 PM
Good eye on the Rat Catcher Jeff - I had assumed it was just an interpretation on the Phantom...
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Post by: paul waines on May 30, 2011, 02:27:42 PM
Quite right Jeff, no way is that a Universal logo from the 20's, and the wording looks 70's Sci-fi, it's late 70's at the earliest.   Uncle Carl would be turning in his Grave....
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on May 30, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
That Spook Van de Opera is ultra-rare (I think it comes from the collection of the Dutch Filmmuseum, so there will be a few more copies there) . It was for sale last year on an auction. I bid on it myself, but stopped at a 1000. It actually sold for 1800 euros, but I guess it is only reasonable that Benito tries to settle on a profit of 400 %. It is a beautiful poster, very deep colours.
Apparently benito also picked up this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/He-Gets-Slapped-03-CHANEY-Bosen-FransMOVIE-POSTER19-/140551381019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b983e01b (http://cgi.ebay.com/He-Gets-Slapped-03-CHANEY-Bosen-FransMOVIE-POSTER19-/140551381019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b983e01b), he paid a mere 1560 euros for this one. I must me doing wrong somehow.

Wim
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2011, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Mondo Hazardo on May 30, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
That Spook Van de Opera is ultra-rare (I think it comes from the collection of the Dutch Filmmuseum, so there will be a few more copies there) . It was for sale last year on an auction. I bid on it myself, but stopped at a 1000. It actually sold for 1800 euros, but I guess it is only reasonable that Benito tries to settle on a profit of 400 %. It is a beautiful poster, very deep colours.
Apparently benito also picked up this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/He-Gets-Slapped-03-CHANEY-Bosen-FransMOVIE-POSTER19-/140551381019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b983e01b (http://cgi.ebay.com/He-Gets-Slapped-03-CHANEY-Bosen-FransMOVIE-POSTER19-/140551381019?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b983e01b), he paid a mere 1560 euros for this one. I must me doing wrong somehow.

Wim

Wim,

The font on HET SPOOK looks more modern but the Holland printer obviously went with it. The colors are amazing, and rich, I would have to agree.

HE WHO GETS SLAPPED--- wow.. is all i can say... that rendition of Chaney in his clown makeup is spot on. Love the green background area, around his head, too!! Beautiful!   sm1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqV,!l0E3ICZqqbiBN1QziuGuQ~~0_3.JPG)




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Post by: paul waines on May 30, 2011, 03:20:12 PM
Now that I would say is an early poster, Very nice too.

Shouldn't this lot be in the vintage Thread?  just wondered...
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on May 30, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
Poster design was a pretty serious business in the Netherlands in the twenties and early thirties. A few years earlier there was in fact a cultural debate on the artistic merit of advertising ("Shout or statement?" was the battle cry). In artistic circles the consensus was that design (typeface and image) should be in harmony with the product and that the product in itself was not to be too dominant. Nevertheless advertizing was seen as a perfectly good vehicle for artistic interpretation. Dutch poster design subsequently got international acclaim. Well-known designers, like Frans Bosen who did the He WHO GETS SLAPPED, also took up movie posters on the side. Maybe, you've seen it already, but this one I'm happy to claim mine, is a perfect example:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/TheMenILove/SonOfKongNL23x32.jpg)

Wim
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2011, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: Mondo Hazardo on May 30, 2011, 04:07:21 PM
Poster design was a pretty serious business in the Netherlands in the twenties and early thirties. A few years earlier there was in fact a cultural debate on the artistic merit of advertising ("Shout or statement?" was the battle cry). In artistic circles the consensus was that design (typeface and image) should be in harmony with the product and that the product in itself was not to be too dominant. Nevertheless advertizing was seen as a perfectly good vehicle for artistic interpretation. Dutch poster design subsequently got international acclaim. Well-known designers, like Frans Bosen who did the He WHO GETS SLAPPED, also took up movie posters on the side. Maybe, you've seen it already, but this one I'm happy to claim mine, is a perfect example:

Wim

Nice SON OF KONG, Wim... the ape almost looks man-like i his expression and stance... VERY cool.

and paul is right.. we should be discussing this over in the vintage thread..

is there a way to migrate these posts over there?

jeff

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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 31, 2011, 09:30:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRUCE-LEE-FIST-FURY-ORIG-UK-QUAD-POSTER-/180671038282?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2a10d5434a

Besides the H.K 1sh this is one of the most bad ass FoF posters......much much rarer than the UK jump style version  8) ;D
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Post by: CJ138 on June 01, 2011, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on March 31, 2011, 07:47:31 PM
WTF?! A video poster?!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300541270628&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Here is the same pumpkinhead poster that sold for $415.00 a few months ago.
does anyone else think Jayhawk14 may be shilling? Certainly suspicious....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pumpkinhead-Horror-Movie-Poster-19-x-36-/300562666139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45faee529b
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2011, 09:58:26 PM
Forbidden Planet 6S going for $$$$$:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-06-01at95547PM.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 10:15:54 PM
And EXPEDITED shipping for that 6 sheet will only be 10.00.. let's hope it's packaged well.

Jeff

 
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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on June 01, 2011, 07:00:33 PM
Here is the same pumpkinhead poster that sold for $415.00 a few months ago.
does anyone else think Jayhawk14 may be shilling? Certainly suspicious....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pumpkinhead-Horror-Movie-Poster-19-x-36-/300562666139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45faee529b

I dunno.   Would seem more like an abberation to me...
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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2011, 09:58:26 PM
Forbidden Planet 6S going for $$$$$:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-06-01at95547PM.jpg)

Same seller has a Saucermen 3 sheet too.  If I had those two I don't think I could ever let them go!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-1957-Invasion-Saucer-Men-3-SH-Poster-NM-/320705845327?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aab8ed84f
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 10:43:54 PM
A lenticular for 2001, from 1968. Opening bid: 4999.99


http://cgi.ebay.com/2001-SPACE-ODYSSEY-RARE-23x33-LENTICULAR-POSTER-1968-/110695807829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c5fbfb55


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqUOKkEE2-GG8jrrBN5ub(05pQ~~0_3.JPG)



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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
Now that is VERY surprising to me Jeff.  Had absolutely no clue lenticulars were not a 1990+ phenomenon!
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
Same seller has a Saucermen 3 sheet too.  If I had those two I don't think I could ever let them go!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Orig-1957-Invasion-Saucer-Men-3-SH-Poster-NM-/320705845327?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aab8ed84f

I'd be hard pressed to let thoser go, too, Chris.

Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 10:46:53 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
Now that is VERY suprising to me Jeff.  Had absolutely no clue lenticulars were not a 1990+ phenomenon!

I agree, Chris.. I wonder if there was a different term or name given to this style, back then?

Jeff
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
And for the PULP FICTION "Lucky Strike" lovers.. Opening at 1889.99

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Pulp-Fiction-LUCKY-STRIKE-Advance-ONE-SHEET-POSTER-/360370430058?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e7c0606a

From the auction page: "This poster is a rolled authentic original and practically brand new.  I bought it off a dealer right after it came out, and it passes all known tests for authenticity. i.e. no cropped border, and it measures 27 1/8  x 40 1/16. This is an awesome poster and a must have for any collector and is what I believe to be in near mint condition, or C9."

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKpME24n64+!SBN47tLrneg~~_12.JPG)
 
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKowE3HGei87cBN47t7VVNg~~_12.JPG)
 
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqQOKpkE26j0LLhJBN47utqE6g~~_12.JPG)




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 13, 2011, 05:35:51 PM
Discovered this, listed for sale, on Ebay. It's the beautiful quad, for TO CATCH A THIEF, previously owned by our own Scartacus and discussed about a year ago, here on APF, when he had it cleaned, lightly restored and backed. (He's not the current seller, however). Listed with a BIN of 1950 GBP ($3171.00 USD) or best offer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CATCH-THIEF-UK-quad-poster-HITCHCOCK-1955-ROLLED-/320680465698?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4aaa0b9522

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqMOKogE1z1gzewJBNmM-QLndQ~~_3.JPG)




This beautiful quad is back...same seller, who, this time has gotten 7 bids, currently at 594.00 with over 8 days to go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CATCH-THIEF-UK-quad-poster-HITCHCOCK-1955-ROLLED-/320707515105?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4aaba852e1






Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on June 01, 2011, 11:22:49 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 01, 2011, 10:45:01 PM
Now that is VERY surprising to me Jeff.  Had absolutely no clue lenticulars were not a 1990+ phenomenon!

Lots of discussion has been thrown around about the origin of these.  I think the general consensus is that they are German.  Similar lenticulars exist for Ice Station Zebra and a Ben Hur rerelease.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2011, 11:52:43 PM
Super-rare US 2S/Subway poster for Thunderball is up to bat as well (http://cgi.ebay.com/THUNDERBALL-JAMES-BOND-CONNERY-US-SUBWAY-POSTER-1965-/320707519115):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/JamesBondUS2S.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on June 01, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
Holy attack of cool posters....Ill take the TCAT Quad, the TB subway and the Lucky Strike. Unfortunately all I can afford is the shipping.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 12:06:42 AM
I believe this dude recently tried to sell two Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes posters that appear to be legit.  NeoLoco got one of them for $500.  I don't think the second one sold.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Pulp1-2.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PUlp2-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 02, 2011, 12:41:10 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 12:06:42 AM
I believe this dude recently tried to sell two Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes posters that appear to be legit.  NeoLoco got one of them for $500.  I don't think the second one sold.


The one I got is a 100% authentic original IMO and I would bet that any of the big dogs would agree.  This is a different seller.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2011, 12:44:07 AM
There are currently 8 copies of the "Lucky Strike" on ebay right now.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 02, 2011, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 02, 2011, 12:44:07 AM
There are currently 8 copies of the "Lucky Strike" on ebay right now...
...AND???
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2011, 01:00:37 AM
So cool... but SOO huge.. a 24 sheet, from 1939. From FLYING DEUCES. And it looks pristine..  $125,000.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/GREATEST-COMEDY-MOVIE-POSTER-1939-LAUREL-HARDY-/390310932755?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae0583113

(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!B6it2R!CWk~$(KGrHqV,!jcEybjnQ001BM)tfSo(cQ~~_3.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2011, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on June 02, 2011, 12:59:02 AM
...AND???

It's a simple statement of fact. Meant to inform, in case others were interested or curious.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 02, 2011, 01:09:48 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 02, 2011, 01:01:38 AM
It's a simple statement of fact. Meant to inform, in case others were interested or curious.
Okie dokie then.  I was not sure why that warranted the "..." and if uncertain what someone is saying (or possibly implying) it's generally good to ask... ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
There are eight Lucky Strikes being sold for $1900+.  I got mine for $750 a year ago from a random Ebay seller, a former theater employee.  Neo got his for $500 from a random Ebay seller, whom I also believe is a former theater employee.  Both posters pass all authentication tests with flying colors, despite the smarmy comments from certain "optimists" on this board. So if you want a better deal, monitor the Ebay auctions for one of those rare opportunities and get pics and measurements from the seller before you bid.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Pulp-2.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on June 02, 2011, 08:37:57 AM
all ripped off, IMHO. boring poster, from a boring director, its "cool" I am not cool, screw it, if there is a hundred available, its not rare, want something rare? want to bu a pebble? theres only one like it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on June 02, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
One must also question the 'rarity' when there are always a half dozen up for sale.

I just see it as one of those situations where the community is driving a frenzy.  Kind of like the Alamos.  Eventually it will all crash and this poster will stabilize at a couple hundred.

I have one.  Paid a couple dozen bucks for it when it first came out.  If I were into selling stuff,  this would be the time to let it go for $1500.  That price would undercut the market, but be way more than its long term worth.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 08:52:43 AM
No doubt a few of these Lucky Strikes are popping out of the woodwork at the moment.  It may well be that there are more around than once believed.  We shall see.  I can tell you Rich, who bought a Miramax poster warehouse, thinks they are indeed very rare and he is almost certainly the top authority on the subject.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on June 02, 2011, 09:21:29 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 08:31:46 AM
There are eight Lucky Strikes being sold for $1900+.  I got mine for $750 a year ago from a random Ebay seller, a former theater employee.  Neo got his for $500 from a random Ebay seller, whom I also believe is a former theater employee.  Both posters pass all authentication tests with flying colors, despite the smarmy comments from certain "optimists" on this board. So if you want a better deal, monitor the Ebay auctions for one of those rare opportunities and get pics and measurements from the seller before you bid.

Neo got his from someone with a connection to the studio.   At least this optimist can get his information right, but, then again, why bother to let a little thing like the truth get in the way of 'expertise'.

Quote from: jayn_j on June 02, 2011, 08:38:40 AM
One must also question the 'rarity' when there are always a half dozen up for sale.

I just see it as one of those situations where the community is driving a frenzy.  Kind of like the Alamos.  Eventually it will all crash and this poster will stabilize at a couple hundred.

I have one.  Paid a couple dozen bucks for it when it first came out.  If I were into selling stuff,  this would be the time to let it go for $1500.  That price would undercut the market, but be way more than its long term worth.

I saw this same argument when it was a $500 poster and Kirby said that he wouldn't sell his for anything less than $1000.  The availability has always ebbed and flowed over the years, depending on the usual supply and demand.  The fact that Neo and Mel found theirs for significantly less suggests that the over $2000 price point is 'advanced' for this poster, but it does nothing to suggest a change in the overall supply.  It does suggest that the dealers are not in a big hurry to get rid of them.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 02, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
You cannot create rarity.
a few hundred? to me thats not rare. And I do not believe they printed less tan a few THOUSAND. I have worked in the industry, in as much as I know printing 1 or 1,000 costs almost the same.
 They are not rare, they might have demand higher than the supply. But thats you suckers who want a crap (yes its ugly) poster for a crap (I cant comment never seen it) movie,  and pay more for the piece of rubbish than a genuine rare item, for a genuine great film, or even a good film.
Theres a million of them, the poster is $10 and the DVD less.
Forget the COOL FOR SCHOOL.  Just watch good films and collect posters for them. If you want.

PS if you like the film and like the poster disregard my rant above
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
This situation was unusual because the studio supposedly recalled/withdrew them under threat of lawsuit from RJ Reynolds, a formidable legal adversary. Has that been confirmed? Exactly what happened? Did the studio make active efforts to ensure theaters sent them back or destroyed them? Did it destroy the posters that had not yet been sent to theaters? Obviously some theater employees kept them.

In the end relatively few have surfaced. Maybe nobody wants to sell, maybe relatively few were ever printed, maybe many of them were actually destroyed, maybe somebody is sitting on a big stack of them and slowly parceling them out. Who knows?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on June 02, 2011, 10:23:51 AM
I don't know nothin' about anything, but it's my honest belief that the popularity of these movies are fading. I can think of four people my age (12) who liked Pulp Fiction, and if people don't like the movie people don't want the poster.

That and A) Uma Thurman does not seem to be widely considered an attractive woman, certainly not one people would hang on their wall and B) Smoking isn't cool like it was in the early 90s.

But what do I know.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 02, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
regardless, theres HUNDREDS floating around, That to me isn't rare. Scarce maybe. I am biased, I have zero respect for the film, and the poster no matter which version, BORING. I mean really.. a picture of a average looking woman? dont get it, I see sexier females every day, cos she smokes, crap, I know a hundreds who do also. JUST DOT GET IT. gimme a nice art work or give me death OR give me a good film; or give me a bad film, dont care but 90 mins of mind numbing blah blah will do me

\\edit, Disheveledamethyst as was posting, YES, 
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 02, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on June 02, 2011, 10:23:51 AM
I don't know nothin' about anything, but it's my honest belief that the popularity of these movies are fading. I can think of four people my age (12) who liked Pulp Fiction, and if people don't like the movie people don't want the poster.

That and A) Uma Thurman does not seem to be widely considered an attractive woman, certainly not one people would hang on their wall and B) Smoking isn't cool like it was in the early 90s.

But what do I know.

This matters to a point... There is a whole generation of people who hold this film in high regard.  It will take a while (maybe when people like Mel and I are in our 70s), but once that blip works it way through the system, it may drop in value... until then I see it holding pretty steady at $1k-2K. 

Remember, there a lot of young people who don't care about Brando, Newman, McQueen, etc... as well.  I think we are already beginning to see those posters decrease in value as well as that blip is just getting past its peak.  And don't get me started on pre-war westerns, musicals and animation... those are in a free fall for lack of buyers.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on June 02, 2011, 10:46:56 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 02, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
I am biased, I have zero respect for the film...

Didn't you say that you haven't even seen this film Ari?  Everyone is of course entitled to their opinions.  But it seems a bit disingenuous to lobby against it so hard when you haven't even given it a chance...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 02, 2011, 10:28:03 AM
regardless, theres HUNDREDS floating around, That to me isn't rare. Scarce maybe. I am biased, I have zero respect for the film, and the poster no matter which version, BORING. I mean really.. a picture of a average looking woman? dont get it, I see sexier females every day, cos she smokes, crap, I know a hundreds who do also. JUST DOT GET IT. gimme a nice art work or give me death OR give me a good film; or give me a bad film, dont care but 90 mins of mind numbing blah blah will do me

\\edit, Disheveledamethyst as was posting, YES,  

Keep in mind this point of view is from a guy who relishes posters with half-naked cannibal slave women driving dune buggies!

:)
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Post by: stewart boyle on June 02, 2011, 10:48:06 AM
Ari i think your being too conservative with your estimates..there must be Thousands of Rare Lucky Strikes out there..i`ve yet to come across a poster website that doesn`t have at least one for sale..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 02, 2011, 11:03:06 AM

I have never seen the film - I am sure its great, a real you bueate ripper. I have no interest, there are more than thousand movies I havnt seen, Ill give them a go before Qt.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 11:21:08 AM
The Lucky Strike at Cameo sold today for 437 pounds (including 15% commission) or $700.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 02, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
re: pulp fiction recalled lucky strikes

it is not rare because of the number that were printed (most likely several thousand at least imo), it is rare because everyone wants it and it is THE poster to get from the 1990's. And because there are bootlegs of it out there, people are scared to buy from a source that doesn't seem reputable.

a few weeks ago someone sent us 5 of them. We bought them and now they are all listed (except for one we sold a few days ago).

the ones we have left will probably last us a couple of years, then we will be out of stock again like we were last year.


coincidentally, a few days after we bought the lucky strikes posters, someone else sent us an original distributor box of 50 of the regular ones. Its a shame though that many of them were damaged in the box.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-1SH-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-NM-M-1994-UNUSED-/350086596825?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5182c988d9 (http://cgi.ebay.com/PULP-FICTION-1SH-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-NM-M-1994-UNUSED-/350086596825?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5182c988d9)

an interesting note.......check out the box they came in..........the nss number for pulp fiction?
(http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/82011/pulpbox.jpg)



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Post by: paul waines on June 02, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
Keep in mind this point of view is from a guy who relishes posters with half-naked cannibal slave women driving dune buggies!

:)

Wow... Could you post a pic of this poster Ari, Sounds great. :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 02, 2011, 01:16:52 PM
Ari, you crack me up.  It's rare to see someone with such disdain for something, especially in this case, when you haven't even watched the movie that the poster is for.  You must be on a different wavelength than most folks as Tarantino is considered by many to be one of the best, and Pulp Fiction being one of his best works.  But that is one thing that's cool about you - it seems like you don't want to jump on the gravy train of the "latest and greatest" and buy into all the hype or whatever.

Personally, I think Pulp Fiction is a masterpiece, a timeless classic that will be held in high regard for many years to come.  If the price increases, then great, if not then it really won't bother me.  I've kept an eye on Ebay auctions and this is by far the most I've ever seen at any time for sale there, and not to toot my own horn, but the price I got mine was the cheapest I've seen in over 2 years, and I feel really fortunate to have been able to "strike while the iron is hot."  The smoking thing is ironic for me, as some of the best posters (IMO) have (what I consider to be) sexy ladies smoking cigarettes and I'm not a big fan of tobacco to say the least.  Hopefully a poster I recently scored will arrive today, that is another classic (IMO), and it also has a sexy female smoking.  Pics hopefully later today.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on June 02, 2011, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on June 02, 2011, 10:44:48 AM
pre-war animation... those are in a free fall for lack of buyers.

GIMME GIMME :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on June 06, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Whoever wants to continue the ranting, just go here:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2427.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2427.0.html)

Keep this tread on track.


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Post by: Harry Caul on June 06, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: holiday on June 06, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Whoever wants to continue the ranting, just go here:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2427.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2427.0.html)

Keep this tread on track.

DEAR GOD THANK YOU (and I don't even go to church).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on June 06, 2011, 07:23:57 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on June 06, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
DEAR GOD THANK YOU (and I don't even go to church).

I moved it mostly because I like this thread, and I would just pop to the last page every day.  I couldn't do that the way the dialog was going on - 6 or 7 pages or whatever.  Not censorship, just moderation.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on June 06, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 02, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
This situation was unusual because the studio supposedly recalled/withdrew them under threat of lawsuit from RJ Reynolds, a formidable legal adversary. Has that been confirmed? Exactly what happened? Did the studio make active efforts to ensure theaters sent them back or destroyed them? Did it destroy the posters that had not yet been sent to theaters? Obviously some theater employees kept them.

In the end relatively few have surfaced. Maybe nobody wants to sell, maybe relatively few were ever printed, maybe many of them were actually destroyed, maybe somebody is sitting on a big stack of them and slowly parceling them out. Who knows?

In a normal recall, the studio would send a letter and ask for a return of the posters.  On rare occasions (mainly Disney), they would call the theater directly - I know that they did this for the Dick Tracy Mind if I Call you Dick poster.

For Pulp, they called and told each theater that they would be charged ($10 per, I think) for every poster that was not returned.  I have not heard of this threat being used for any other recall case.

As for the NSS number, why wouldn't it have a number?

Repost  - this is a rather non-controversial post, but, due to it's information, should be kept with the previous Pulp Fiction discussion.
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 06, 2011, 07:50:13 PM
"As for the NSS number, why wouldn't it have a number? "

the nss number does not appear anywhere on the poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on June 06, 2011, 07:54:00 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on June 06, 2011, 07:50:13 PM
"As for the NSS number, why wouldn't it have a number? "

the nss number does not appear anywhere on the poster.

yeah, but lots of posters at that time didn't have the numbers printed on them even though we know that they had NSS numbers assigned.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 06, 2011, 08:32:22 PM
Yes, we know that. But many do not. And even for me, it was interesting to see the box with the number on it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on June 06, 2011, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on June 06, 2011, 08:32:22 PM
Yes, we know that. But many do not. And even for me, it was interesting to see the box with the number on it.

Oh, I agree that it was interesting to see the number on the box.  There was a picture of an original shipping tube posted at some point over the years, but I don't recall the particulars.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 06, 2011, 10:53:00 PM
One of Benito's cool posters talked about briefly in the Cinevent thread. He has it described as being for the 1927 MGM / Chaney Sr. film, MR WU, but research showed it was and advertising poster, printed in Munich in 1925, and done for a magician, called Mister Wu, who performed during that time.

BIN $4900.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/MISTER-WU-03-CHANEY-MOVIE-POSTER1927-/130522472787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e63bee153



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on June 07, 2011, 12:16:03 AM
Love that poster, but not for $4900.  I'd probably pay about one fifth of that.  However, based on his description, it appears that he thinks he has some LC material.  I hope he purchased thinking it was LC material, and just remains misinformed.  Whatever the case, thats too much.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2011, 12:47:22 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 07, 2011, 12:16:03 AM
Love that poster, but not for $4900.  I'd probably pay about one fifth of that.  However, based on his description, it appears that he thinks he has some LC Jr. material.  I hope he purchased thinking it was LC material, and just remains misinformed.  Whatever the case, thats too much.

Schan,

I agree, it's an eye catcher. In the info I read about a copy of this poster being up for auction, in 2004, in San Francisco, it was given an estimated value of 500-800.00.  PS-- it didnt sell in that auction and the opening bid was 500.00

Jeff

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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2011, 04:38:55 PM
A B1 for EMPIRE STRIKES BACK-- one bid in, at $280.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370516323940&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!lIE3NVZzWN2BN6vE4gnU!~~0_3.JPG)



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Post by: erik1925 on June 12, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
With a couple hours to go, this quad for FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE is the front runner in Part One of Bruce's Mini/Major Auction, currently at $3200.00.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2205354


(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/british_quad_from_russia_with_love_linen_NZ02205_L.jpg)



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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 12, 2011, 11:44:19 PM
(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/collector4ever/James%20Bond/64FRWL2SH.jpg)

This ones just as nice  ;D

The French large one (6sh ?) is a beauty  bed1
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 12, 2011, 11:45:54 PM
Benito should be better with stating editions.....most of his YOLTs are re-issues.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 14, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
Another VERY interesting Argentine poster, (in bruce's auction), for this Argentine film, billed as a musical comedy, and clearly using Universal likenesses of the Frankenstein monster and Wolfman. Both are easily recognized on this splendid looking poster. I guess, in 1955, there wasnt a problem with any kind of infringement issue? Or was this poster created in spite of any potential legal snags that could have been brought up?

A really nice looking poster, IMO.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2210804


(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/argentinean_phantom_of_the_operetta_NZ02320_L.jpg)




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Post by: Chop-Top on June 20, 2011, 01:50:39 PM
This is not a poster auction, but I had to list it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Yeller-Vault-Disney-Collection-New-DVD-Dorothy-/220774141697?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item33672a0f01 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Yeller-Vault-Disney-Collection-New-DVD-Dorothy-/220774141697?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item33672a0f01)
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Post by: brude on June 20, 2011, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Chop-Top on June 20, 2011, 01:50:39 PM
This is not a poster auction, but I had to list it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Yeller-Vault-Disney-Collection-New-DVD-Dorothy-/220774141697?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item33672a0f01 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Yeller-Vault-Disney-Collection-New-DVD-Dorothy-/220774141697?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item33672a0f01)

What a friggin' deal.
I'm on it!
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 20, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
They are full of good deals!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mark-Twains-Tom-Sawyer-New-DVD-Fedor-Stukov-Vladisl-/220706541543?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item3363228fe7

http://cgi.ebay.com/Boys-Brazil-New-DVD-Gregory-Peck-Laurence-O-/220752040035?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item3365d8d063
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Post by: CSM on June 20, 2011, 04:28:41 PM
BUT they got your attention didn't they guys?
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Post by: Bruce on June 23, 2011, 09:31:24 AM
This seems like a really cool poster, but is this price justified?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2220764 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2220764)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/dragons_lair_video_NZ02417_L.jpg)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 23, 2011, 10:05:42 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220800141920&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Post by: jayn_j on June 23, 2011, 10:51:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 23, 2011, 09:31:24 AM
This seems like a really cool poster, but is this price justified?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2220764 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2220764)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/dragons_lair_video_NZ02417_L.jpg)

We looked at it the other night, and my son-in-law who is a serious gamer got all excited about it and the Space Ace one.  Dragon's Lair was a breakthrough arcade game back in the early '80s.  It was the first one to have convincing graphics through use of laserdisc overlays.  This was back in the days where the state of the art was pac-man and missile command, so the difference was abig deal.  I remember big lines waiting to pay a buck to play it.

I would expect the poster is fairly rare as well.  Also, just 2 guys going at it since it was $25.
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Post by: DreamWarrior on June 23, 2011, 01:56:07 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2221327
Two guys really want this Thing poster.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thing-1982-movie-poster-/360375382262?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e80bf0f6
Ebay FTW. ;) 8)
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Post by: wonka on June 23, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
This thread is FUBAR.

Exhibit A:

Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on June 23, 2011, 10:05:42 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220800141920&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Exhibit B:

Quote from: DreamWarrior on June 23, 2011, 01:56:07 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2221327
Two guys really want this Thing poster.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thing-1982-movie-poster-/360375382262?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e80bf0f6
Ebay FTW. ;) 8)

And Bruce, many if not most of the auctions you have bring more $ to a given piece then they are probably worth, but thanks for pointing out the Dragon's Lair.
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Post by: jayn_j on June 23, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: wonka on June 23, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
And Bruce, many if not most of the auctions you have bring more $ to a given piece then they are probably worth, but thanks for pointing out the Dragon's Lair.

So, I must ask...
How do you determine what something is worth, if the existing auction databases are skewed too high?

Retail prices from major sellers always seem to be even higher, as are buy it now items on ebay.  Are we talking the price you get from selling to a dealer or consigning to an auction?  If so, there is always a gap.

By definition, any item you just bought is worth more TO YOU than to anyone else.  Unless you can widen your potential audience you will lose money on the resale.  By the same logic, any auction you lose ended up overpriced.
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Post by: wonka on June 23, 2011, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on June 23, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
So, I must ask...
How do you determine what something is worth, if the existing auction databases are skewed too high?

Retail prices from major sellers always seem to be even higher, as are buy it now items on ebay.  Are we talking the price you get from selling to a dealer or consigning to an auction?  If so, there is always a gap.

By definition, any item you just bought is worth more TO YOU than to anyone else.  Unless you can widen your potential audience you will lose money on the resale.  By the same logic, any auction you lose ended up overpriced.

Fair questions and points.

'Value' is always what a particular poster is worth to a particular person in terms of how much it sold for, anywhere....but more broadly an estimated price after all recent sales including ebay is taken into consideration. There is no real math behind it. However, many posters (most, not counting stuff you never really see more than once or twice in a lifetime) will always go for more in auction houses such as eMovie, HA, etc.

The comment to Bruce is more to point out that he gets more on a Dragon's Lair poster than Joe Schmoe would on ebay, craigslist, etc...because he is eBruce, which is THE point, not what Dragon's Lair is 'worth'. Good for Bruce to be sure, but when he sells Indy Last Crusade posters for over $100 if not much more a pop when they go for pennies on the dollar on ebay, they sure as heck aren't worth what Bruce gets, except to that particular buyer for whatever reason, the experience and trust with eMovie, ignorance, laziness, whatever.
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 23, 2011, 03:58:38 PM
I hear the high bidder on the Dragons Lair poster had plenty of money laying around  ;), but he still needs to quit bidding on stuff with my name on it too.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 23, 2011, 04:31:39 PM
And, in the reverse, some sellers on ebay ask for more than emovie may get:

This:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-STAR-WARS-27x41-ADVANCE-MOVIE-POSTER-1SHEET-ROLLED-/390321049640?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae0f29028

and this:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2221283

for this rolled version:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!B1HZQDwEWk~$(KGrHqN,!h0E)quF8lU7BMdIy,1+ng~~_12.JPG)


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Post by: Zorba on June 23, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
I agree its not so simple.

Seems to me that much of it depends on what day it is or who is bidding that day. I have seen a poster on emovie go for $40 so I get my hopes up thinking I can get it the next time it comes up only to see it go for over $200.  eyeroll.....Luck of the draw. Right place right time and all that.

Most of the time emovie gets more for more popular posters. My favorite example is a crazy Matrix bidding war I remember sitting back and enjoying from the safety of my pc chair...Scared the hell out of my newbness  :P
At the same time I have gotten some for less than I have seen them go for on ebay. ...and I am talking about auctions not BINs.

Though I have yet to buy anything with the thought of what I could sell it for so Im more of a loon "I buy it cause I think its cool" type collector than the investor type buyer who shits a brick every time he sees a poster sell for less than what he paid for it.


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Post by: stewart boyle on June 23, 2011, 04:51:06 PM
 ;D
To quote the seller.."Very few made and very few survived. MUCH RARER than the Mylar poster one-sheet; probably about 10X rarer. This is a really nice! "

10X rarer is probably just the same as 1 Louder...

Stew
Probably
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Post by: jayn_j on June 23, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: Zorba on June 23, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
I agree its not so simple.

Seems to me that much of it depends on what day it is or who is bidding that day. I have seen a poster on emovie go for $40 so I get my hopes up thinking I can get it the next time it comes up only to see it go for over $200.  eyeroll.....Luck of the draw. Right place right time and all that.


Yep.  Also, we tend to remember and comment when auction bidding goes bat-shit crazy, but not so much when an item sits there like a 3 day old fish.  If nothing else, we are all hoping nobody will notice so we can pick it up.
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Post by: holiday on June 23, 2011, 10:34:44 PM
Bruce has a shitload of awesome posters up for the new Thursday night auction.  I was really taken by the fact that with all those beautiful pieces of paper, why the hell we bother buying the newly minted crapola that comes off the presses of Mondo and the like?  I mean, really.  I'm just saying....

It's not like anyone is going to miss it, so I have to ask : does anyone have more information on the Matrix Reloaded poster that's up?  I have to say, I'm pretty stymied.  Of all people I'm directing this question to, it's probably most directed at marklawd, the master of the obscure/rare/collectible poster.
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Post by: marklawd on June 24, 2011, 08:37:55 PM
I don't know much at all about Matrix posters but it seems evident to me this poster is just an art print with no theatrical purpose.

Mark
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Post by: holiday on June 24, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: marklawd on June 24, 2011, 08:37:55 PM
I don't know much at all about Matrix posters but it seems evident to me this poster is just an art print with no theatrical purpose.

Mark

I guess what throws me is that it's an art print sized at 27x40.  It's an odd size for a print, unless, of course, the intent was for it to be a print akin to a movie poster.
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 26, 2011, 12:23:13 PM
we have one of these on ebay now, at no reserve


Quote from: erik1925 on June 23, 2011, 04:31:39 PM
And, in the reverse, some sellers on ebay ask for more than emovie may get:

This:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-STAR-WARS-27x41-ADVANCE-MOVIE-POSTER-1SHEET-ROLLED-/390321049640?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae0f29028

and this:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2221283

for this rolled version:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!B1HZQDwEWk~$(KGrHqN,!h0E)quF8lU7BMdIy,1+ng~~_12.JPG)



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Post by: Bruce on June 26, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
"Bruce has a shitload of awesome posters up for the new Thursday night auction.  I was really taken by the fact that with all those beautiful pieces of paper, why the hell we bother buying the newly minted crapola that comes off the presses of Mondo and the like?  I mean, really.  I'm just saying"

I wish some of the people in love with Roadhouse/Mondo posters would look the above posters over and see just how much further their money can go, and they can get items where there are likely only a few dozen at most in collectors' hands.

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 26, 2011, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 26, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
"Bruce has a shitload of awesome posters up for the new Thursday night auction.  I was really taken by the fact that with all those beautiful pieces of paper, why the hell we bother buying the newly minted crapola that comes off the presses of Mondo and the like?  I mean, really.  I'm just saying"

I wish some of the people in love with Roadhouse/Mondo posters would look the above posters over and see just how much further their money can go, and they can get items where there are likely only a few dozen at most in collectors' hands.

Bruce

no kidding
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Post by: jayn_j on June 26, 2011, 06:10:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 26, 2011, 01:16:30 PM
"Bruce has a shitload of awesome posters up for the new Thursday night auction.  I was really taken by the fact that with all those beautiful pieces of paper, why the hell we bother buying the newly minted crapola that comes off the presses of Mondo and the like?  I mean, really.  I'm just saying"

I wish some of the people in love with Roadhouse/Mondo posters would look the above posters over and see just how much further their money can go, and they can get items where there are likely only a few dozen at most in collectors' hands.

Bruce

Hear, hear.  However, I thought people were more aware on Thursday as I got outbid on everything I wanted.  Did OK Tuesday though.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 26, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 26, 2011, 01:16:30 PM

I wish some of the people in love with Roadhouse/Mondo posters would look the above posters over and see just how much further their money can go, and they can get items where there are likely only a few dozen at most in collectors' hands.

Bruce

How about getting both?

For one, I couldn't be happier about my Stout collection, my Ansin collection, a few Dangers and Taylors here and there.  Great stuff, IMO (and sound investment, since we're talking about money.)  I could probably do without 40% of my prints, but the same can be said about my posters.  So I go for collecting both.

T
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Post by: Louie D. on June 27, 2011, 01:16:41 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 26, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
and sound investment

Time will tell.  Especially when they start releasing those "found in the warehouse" pints.
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Post by: holiday on June 27, 2011, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 26, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
How about getting both?

For one, I couldn't be happier about my Stout collection, my Ansin collection, a few Dangers and Taylors here and there.  Great stuff, IMO (and sound investment, since we're talking about money.)  I could probably do without 40% of my prints, but the same can be said about my posters.  So I go for collecting both.

T

It's the ridiculous drops and the constant chasing and the fact that for the most part, it's turned into more of a money-grind than a labor of love.  I support a fellow like Matt over at cinemaoverdrive.net because it's a labor of love for him, and because he's loyal to those who have consistently followed him.  I won't abide Mondo any longer because they are just the opposite now.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 27, 2011, 02:02:20 AM
Sure, I don't have any issues with that. 

This said, I do believe that good prints still make it thru, so even though Mondo has turned into a money machine, real artists still provide good prints (although definitely more seldom), and I think it's a mistake to blame them for the mercantile ambition of a few.

T
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Post by: jayn_j on June 27, 2011, 09:05:09 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 27, 2011, 02:02:20 AM
Sure, I don't have any issues with that. 

This said, I do believe that good prints still make it thru, so even though Mondo has turned into a money machine, real artists still provide good prints (although definitely more seldom), and I think it's a mistake to blame them for the mercantile ambition of a few.

T
(Did I post this before??)

30 years ago, there was a sculptor in Colorado name of Michael Ricker.  His stuff ended up taking on a similar cult status and he was doing the same sort of limited editions.  The cult thing lasted for about 15 years and then crashed big time.  At its peak, the pewter was sold at malls across the country.

After the crash, the operation scaled back and is still around, but at a reasoable level:

http://www.ricker.com/

The point is that during the boom years, Ricker employed dozens of sculptors.  These people remain and formed the core of the Loveland Artist community.  Many became world famous in their own right:
George Walbye - http://walbyeartstudio.com/
Dee Clements - http://deeclements.net/

Both have a lot of civic artwork and Dee did the sculptures for the National Holocaust museum.  Both of them would possibly still be struggling without the Ricker opportunity.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 27, 2011, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on June 26, 2011, 12:23:13 PM
we have one of these on ebay now, at no reserve

Yeah, Dave's got some outstanding posters up for auction, including this rolled Star Wars C (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-1SH-ORIG-STYLE-C-MOVIE-POSTER-NO-RESERVE-/180681453873).

(http://www.bedecked.com/82011/eg915ebay.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 27, 2011, 10:17:30 PM
Mel, are u working with Dave, now?

How much do you get?

 ;)
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Post by: Louie D. on June 27, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 27, 2011, 10:02:15 PM
Yeah, Dave's got some outstanding posters up for auction, including this rolled Star Wars C (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-1SH-ORIG-STYLE-C-MOVIE-POSTER-NO-RESERVE-/180681453873).

(http://www.bedecked.com/82011/eg915ebay.jpg)

Where would the outstanding posters be?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 27, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 27, 2011, 10:17:30 PM
Mel, are u working with Dave, now?

How much do you get?

 ;)

Quote from: Louie D. on June 27, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Where would the outstanding posters be?

Well, I can't please everybody but here's something you boys might like:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/31356755.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on June 27, 2011, 11:01:14 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 27, 2011, 02:02:20 AM
Sure, I don't have any issues with that. 

This said, I do believe that good prints still make it thru, so even though Mondo has turned into a money machine, real artists still provide good prints (although definitely more seldom), and I think it's a mistake to blame them for the mercantile ambition of a few.

T

Oh, no. Don't get me wrong.  It's not the artists, for the most part, that's to blame for commercialization of their work.  I still buy prints, but I don't buy through the first drop, usually, unless it's going to be an easy drop.  So, that naturally limits what I can end up buying.  If I live to avoid another Mondo drop for the rest of my days, I'll be a happier person.
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Post by: holiday on June 27, 2011, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 27, 2011, 11:00:31 PM
Well, I can't please everybody but here's something you boys might like:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/31356755.jpg)

Mmmm... veggies....
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Post by: CSM on June 27, 2011, 11:06:34 PM
I think a bed of fruit would be more appropriate for him...
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Post by: 50s on June 27, 2011, 11:15:46 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 27, 2011, 11:06:34 PM
I think a bed of fruit would be more appropriate for him...

Who? Mel, Louie


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Post by: erik1925 on July 04, 2011, 06:27:12 PM
The current high item in Heritage's July Signature Poster auction is the 1935 insert for WEREWOLF OF LONDON, at $16,000.00 ($19,120.00 with the added BP):


(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f6%2f9%2f4%2f6694871.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)


THE WOLF MAN half sheet, with an opening bid of $10,000.00, has yet to receive an initial bid:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f7%2f0%2f9%2f6709064.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)

Third, is the OS sheet for BABY FACE, starring Barbara Stanwyck, presently at $9500 ($11,352.50 with the BP):

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f6%2f3%2f1%2f6631969.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)






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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 06, 2011, 12:16:44 AM
Haven't seen too many 27x41 soundtrack posters but here's one for Black Hole for $50 on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160537846793) if anyone is interested:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/BlackHole.jpg)
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Post by: raulleaf on July 10, 2011, 05:25:56 PM
I keep posting these deals in the wrong sections.  Here is a listing I think some of you may like...

A Black Swan Israel/Hebrew Version. The Image is mirrored vs. the US and Intl one Sheet.  This is another original he has for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280707548617&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280707548617&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123)

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 11, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
This rolled Australian Empire Strikes Back one sheet (http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-Star-Wars-ESB-One-Sheet-/190551682233), supposedly signed by John Williams, has already shot to $400 (including $50 shipping), so it's no longer a bargain, so I'll go ahead and post it here.  I've exchanged several emails with the seller and both the poster and signature SEEM to be legit but you'll have to do your own due diligence. It's not mounted and the guy seems to have had the right connections to get both the poster and the signature.  I lost interest once it hit $400 but maybe somebody here might still have interest at that price level.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-07-11at83759PM.jpg) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-Star-Wars-ESB-One-Sheet-/190551682233)

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Post by: CSM on July 11, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
I would have lost interest as soon as I realized it was signed!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 11, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
Quote from: CSM on July 11, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
I would have lost interest as soon as I realized it was signed!

Exactly what happened here.  I saw it when it was still low, I was about to add it to my list, and ran away when I realized it was signed.  Such a shame.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 12, 2011, 09:20:29 AM
The Williams sig looks like the real McCoy.
Too bad the price went so high, I would've gambled.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 12, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: brude on July 12, 2011, 09:20:29 AM
The Williams sig looks like the real McCoy.
Too bad the price went so high, I would've gambled.


Like I said, the guy's story appears to be solid.  He worked in film music and had one degree of separation from John Williams and used his connections to get the sig.  Plus, only a music guy would want John Williams' signature on this poster.  A faker would put Harrison Ford's sig on it, not John Williams.  He claims he got the poster from Pete Vilmur, the author of the Star Wars Poster Book. Presumably, that is verifiable. So in the end it all reasonably adds up. Not guaranteed of course. 

The problem is the resale.  It would be hard to resell this with that signature on it, even if it is legitimate. So if you buy it, you better count on keeping it forever.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 12, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 12, 2011, 09:34:11 AM

The problem is the resale.  It would be hard to resell this with that signature on it, even if it is legitimate. So if you buy it, you better count on keeping it forever.

And the other problem is that there is a signature on the poster (even if it is authentic)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 12, 2011, 10:04:18 AM
Quote from: CSM on July 12, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
And the other problem is that there is a signature on the poster (even if it is authentic)

Always the stalwart purist.
I commend you, Chris!
But, wait a minute....don't you have a MUMMY poster signed by Im-Ho-Tep?  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 12, 2011, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: brude on July 12, 2011, 10:04:18 AM
Always the stalwart purist.
I commend you, Chris!
But, wait a minute....don't you have a MUMMY poster signed by Im-Ho-Tep?  wynk

I wish Ted!  Maybe then I could find his tomb and become more famous then Howard Carter  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on July 12, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
I have one signed by Ardath Bay, but I heard it's only a pen name for someone... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 12, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 12, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
I have one signed by Ardath Bay, but I heard it's only a pen name for someone... ;)

Cagliostro?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: raulleaf on July 12, 2011, 07:28:26 PM
Hey did anybody else's watch item link disappear on ebay?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 12, 2011, 07:38:23 PM
Quote from: raulleaf on July 12, 2011, 07:28:26 PM
Hey did anybody else's watch item link disappear on ebay?

Nope.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 12, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
This window card for THE INVISIBLE MAN has been on ebay, and for sale by Egbert, for years. I juts noticed today that his shipping for this single item is $125.00! Even is his long, rambling description, it states: Add $125 for USPS next day shipping to your winning bid.

Arent shipping limits in place so that this very kind of thing cannot be done to gouge a buyer? (That cost alone will deter most anyhow).

http://cgi.ebay.com/INVISIBLE-MAN-MOVIE-POSTER-WINDOW-CARD-1933-PB-VF-/130455309712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5fbe0d90


(http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/comicod/invisiblemanWCfx1s.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on July 12, 2011, 07:56:43 PM
$125 next day shipping on a flat package that measures 14x22 with insurance doesnt sound too excessive. I shipped a rolled poster next day through UPS with a lot of insurance and it was $100.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 12, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
That would be fine if it was one of several shipping options. But it is the ONLY option.   :-\

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 12, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
I can think of MANY other posters I would like to buy for $7,000 and as a bonus, not have to deal with Egbert...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on July 12, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 12, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
That would be fine if it was one of several shipping options. But it is the ONLY option.   :-\



Maybe .. but if you spend $6k on a window card Id bet you would want next day shipping with full insurance. I mean seriously whats another $100 to ensure you get it quickly and safely?

The big difference between mine and Eggys sales ... I included the shipping in my sale price I didnt charge extra. ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 13, 2011, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 12, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
Arent shipping limits in place so that this very kind of thing cannot be done to gouge a buyer? (That cost alone will deter most anyhow).

I think all that Ebay does is send an advisory while you are posting that your postage is excessive. 
You can simply ignore it and finalize your post.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 13, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Now, I'm a diehard Dave Stevens fan...but WTF?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270781566772&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270781566772&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

(http://www.randytusha.bizland.com/auctions/cparadise8/06-30-035.JPG)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 28, 2011, 10:57:14 PM
Bradburied has dumped several hundred rolled posters from the 70s and 80s on Ebay (http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_Auction=1&_nkw=rolled+-22x28+-14x36+-insert+-half&_trkparms=65%253A3%257C66%253A1%257C39%253A6&rt=nc&_ipg=200&_sc=1&_sop=3&_ssn=bradburied&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1514) auctions this week.  Notwithstanding his bad rep around here, I don't doubt most of them, possibly all, are original since they are 27x41, have the GAU logo, and are pretty obscure. Most of them are overpriced, even if they are rolled originals.  The best of them, of course, is Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-07-28at105413PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 28, 2011, 11:03:26 PM
You should not promote Bradburied, Mel.  He's a thief and a crook.  Plus, he sells tons of fakes.  Buyer beware.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 28, 2011, 11:26:39 PM
Thierry, you're going to have be more specific.  The problem with these guys is that most of their stuff is legit. I have no doubt his Star Wars C, Scarface, and Manhattan posters are bootlegs but most of them are not.  If you want a rolled poster from the 1970s and you're an advanced collector, you may want to take a shot at some of these.  I'm not "promoting" him.  When somebody dumps hundreds of rolled posters from the 70s & 80s on the market at once, that's a newsworthy event.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 29, 2011, 06:27:10 AM
Some of us choose not to deal with sellers who deliberately sell fakes as legit (knowing full well what they are flogging) even if 90% of their stock IS legit.
Its just a moral stance of not giving money to people we disagree with ethically.
Get a bargain from Bradburied, if you like, and know who gets the last laugh.
If I ate meat I still wouldn't eat at McDonalds, as I don;t like what they do to the environment.
All the same to me, there are lines and everyone choses where they draw them.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 29, 2011, 07:39:50 AM
It's a quandary, for sure.  The problem is most sellers and buyers are less than perfect.  Like most small businesses in this country, 95% of sellers probably "finesse" their tax returns, to put it diplomatically.  Heritage apparently allows consignors to bid on their own auctions and uses a mysterious in-house bidder, which I don't like but can't do anything about.  And of course I'm less than perfect too.  I've made some off-Ebay deals that deprived Ebay of  commissions to which it probably was entitled. Thierry admitted that he uses multiple accounts at Ebay to increase the number of watchers so that the seller thinks the poster is attracting more attention than it really is. So at this point if the poster is legit and reasonably priced, I'm not going to categorically exclude a particular seller from consideration for lack of perfection.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 29, 2011, 07:44:25 AM
yep, thats why we draw our own lines.
There are many dealers I have never dealt with, and many that most of you guys wuld say WTF? WHY? Its just my business as to whom I choose to give money to.
I HAVE given Money to Tom Loce, only because I REALY wanted a Minty White signed by Prof Powers. So I broke my rules and gave him some $. Once.
Thats over, and it was a fun joke, that I still enjoy.
Everyone should decide what is right or wrong. I won't judge.
But I will have a dig, when someone comes along and says "HEY I BOUGHT THIDS FROM Tom Loce or BRANDBURIED, is it a fake? I am worried"
Don't trust 'em, don't support them with bucks.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on July 29, 2011, 09:00:28 AM
Before I could warn him, a friend of mine who was even newer to posters than I bought what we are pretty sure is a fake DS Star Trek XI from him.

It was shorter in length, a little bit fuzzier and had different coloring on some of the credits than the second copy he bought from a different dealer after the red flags went up. Also the second copy was paler on the reverse side while bb's was the same on both sides. It wasnt that bad of a job and without the second poster we would never had ''really" known. For all I know they are both fake. Though its really hard to imagine multiple fakes for ST XI going around.

Star Trek XI? Really? Woah...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on July 29, 2011, 10:29:59 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 28, 2011, 11:26:39 PM
 If you want a rolled poster from the 1970s and you're an advanced collector, you may want to take a shot at some of these.  I'm not "promoting" him.  


Mel, you are promoting him by letting everyone know that he dumped a ton of 70's and 80's posters on Ebay.  I am honestly surprised that you would promote a sleaze bag like him, any advanced collector would know better.

By the way, I picked up an Out of Africa one sheet early on when i first started collecting before i knew what he was about and sure enough its fake...Out of Africa is not really a popular poster to be bootlegging but sure enough he had one and sold it.

Cj
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on July 29, 2011, 10:52:55 AM
I must be lucky - the posters I bought from Bradburied years ago were all legit; this was, of course, before I met you guys!
I haven't bought from him since out of principle, even though most of his gear IS legit.

I can't believe some of you STILL think that having a signed poster means the end of the world lol (yes, I exaggerate) and some think once you have one you will never be able to get rid of it ...
... With regards to the John Williams signed poster - trust me, there are plenty of Star Wars nuts out there who would buy it, just like there are plenty of Bond nuts who would buy a Albert Broccoli signed Bond original.

Most people, in my experience, who buy signed posters display them (with few stored).
Most people, in my experience, who buy unsigned posters store them (with few displayed).

Anyway ...
... any interesting auctions taking place at the moment?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 29, 2011, 06:27:10 AM
Some of us choose not to deal with sellers who deliberately sell fakes as legit (knowing full well what they are flogging) even if 90% of their stock IS legit.
Its just a moral stance of not giving money to people we disagree with ethically.

 sm1

That's all there is.  There are a few posters I wanted on Ebay, and Egbert was selling them for nothing, but I ended up buying them for 3 times the price somewhere else, because I'd rather be caught dead than give my money to Egplant.  Like Adam said, it's all about principles.  And you, Mel, as a government employee and a lawyer, should set the example by staying clear from those people.

“The senses deceive from time to time, and it is prudent never to trust wholly those who have deceived us even once” (René Descartes)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 29, 2011, 06:34:33 PM
If you don't want to deal with bradburied/Randy/"The Prince of Darkness," Dan/Movie Poster Authentication is selling the last of his collection this week (http://entertainment-memorabilia.shop.ebay.com/Movie-Memorabilia-/196/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=200&_sc=1&_sop=1&_ssn=010420&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282).  (He's been advertising it all over the other forums, so it's certainly no secret.)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on July 29, 2011, 06:44:16 PM
Yup, $25 shipping prices and all!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on July 29, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on July 29, 2011, 06:44:16 PM
Yup, $25 shipping prices and all!

 ;D

I have a couple on my watch list.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 29, 2011, 06:50:12 PM
He took down the one I wanted (rolled Woodstock advance) and admitted he was keeping it for himself.  Bastitch!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 29, 2011, 06:59:25 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 29, 2011, 06:34:33 PM
If you don't want to deal with bradburied/Randy/"The Prince of Darkness," Dan/Movie Poster Authentication is selling the last of his collection this week (http://entertainment-memorabilia.shop.ebay.com/Movie-Memorabilia-/196/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=200&_sc=1&_sop=1&_ssn=010420&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282).  (He's been advertising it all over the other forums, so it's certainly no secret.)

Now THAT was a good tip.  I kept missing Dan's stuff recently.

Regarding the other, I've bought from Bradburried, and from Loce and from Egbert.  I agree that they are shady, but I don't really care about the principles of dealing with them or not.  I leave those philosophical questions to those better qualified than me (or so they think ;-)  )  It's a personal choice - nothing more an nothing less.  Let's just make sure that the newcomers are informed of who these characters are and that they know to be extra careful by knowing exactly what they're buying and how to be sure of its authenticity BEFORE buying.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 29, 2011, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: holiday on July 29, 2011, 06:59:25 PM
Now THAT was a good tip.  I kept missing Dan's stuff recently.

Regarding the other, I've bought from Bradburried, and from Loce and from Egbert.  I agree that they are shady, but I don't really care about the principles of dealing with them or not.  I leave those philosophical questions to those better qualified than me (or so they think ;-)  )  It's a personal choice - nothing more an nothing less.  Let's just make sure that the newcomers are informed of who these characters are and that they know to be extra careful by knowing exactly what they're buying and how to be sure of its authenticity BEFORE buying.


Edit:  And wouldn't you know there's not a damned thing I'm interested in - either have it or don't want it.  Boo hoo!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 31, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
Most obnoxious and idiotic Ebay ad ever. It's for a 3 sheet Forbidden Planet (http://cgi.ebay.com/Forbidden-Planet-THREE-SHEET-VERY-RARE-NM-MINT-/190560940818):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Forbidden-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on July 31, 2011, 01:37:16 PM
damn..to bad the auction isn't for the cat or else i would bid on it...its for a worthless Forbidden Planet 3 sheet...what a disappointment.  hitself
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: raulleaf on July 31, 2011, 01:57:30 PM
You think it would be in a better frame for a 40k poster...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: DreamWarrior on July 31, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
EPIC FAIL! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 31, 2011, 03:20:10 PM
ebay is full of epic fail
ebay breeds it like cockroaches on a trash can
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 31, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
It's PURE GENIUS, I tell you!  I'm gonna sell my $40,000 insanely valuable poster by using a profane LOL cat!  Yeshhhh!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on August 03, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
terrible movie, ugly poster, Id pay $10 max myself. good title but watch the movie and... die.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on August 03, 2011, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: Ari on August 03, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
terrible movie, ugly poster, Id pay $10 max myself. good title but watch the movie and... die.

You talking about FORBIDDEN PLANET, Ari?
For shame.
 nono
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
Certainly this is an amazing poster, but it is UNBELIEVABLY incredible bad luck that if it had to have paper loss in a tiny area, it would happen right where it did!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663)

It will be interesting to see where it ends at!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/6sh_return_of_the_jedi_INTL_print_proof_JC01320_L.jpg)

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
Certainly this is an amazing poster, but it is UNBELIEVABLY incredible bad luck that if it had to have paper loss in a tiny area, it would happen right where it did!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663)

It will be interesting to see where it ends at!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/6sh_return_of_the_jedi_INTL_print_proof_JC01320_L.jpg)

Bruce

That is definitely a crazy rare poster Bruce... who consigned it?  Was it someone who worked for the studio?  Could it be a foreign issue (no rating)?  From the wear it sure looks like it part of a regular release and sat in a pile of other posters collecting dust and bugs for many years.

Its not my bag, but I'm sure the Star Wars completists will be fighting each other tooth and nail for it come 8pm CST!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on August 09, 2011, 04:55:47 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
Certainly this is an amazing poster, but it is UNBELIEVABLY incredible bad luck that if it had to have paper loss in a tiny area, it would happen right where it did!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2264663)

It will be interesting to see where it ends at!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/6sh_return_of_the_jedi_INTL_print_proof_JC01320_L.jpg)

Bruce

No matter what it sells for, my bet is that it ENDS at Poster Mountain or some other restoration shop.  Real question is what it sells for next year, linenbacked and restored.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on August 09, 2011, 05:15:59 PM
I'd say that 6 sheet is a huge waste of potential art space!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 05:26:50 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 09, 2011, 04:55:47 PM
No matter what it sells for, my bet is that it ENDS at Poster Mountain or some other restoration shop.  Real question is what it sells for next year, linenbacked and restored.

Not sure I agree with that Jay... it is already over $1K.  If an investor (or dealer) was buying it, you would want guaranteed profit of at least 30-50% or so after recouping both purchase price and restoration costs (probably north of $500).  Say it sells for $1500, that means you would be expecting a guaranteed profit price in a big auction of $2,600 to $3,000 after consignment fees and buyer's premiums.  The final bid would probably need to be $3,500+.  While it could happen, I imagine most investors will deem it too risky and let the completists fight it out. 

And who knows it might end up at $3,500+ tonight!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
I have a feeling the completionists may well really want this!

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
I have a feeling the completionists may well really want this!

Bruce

Me too.

Then again, we are talking about ROTJ here.  Had it been an uber-rare only-known ESB 6-sheet... LOOK OUT!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 09, 2011, 07:36:22 PM
I wouldn't know what to do with a 6-sheet.  First of all, it takes 6x the room to store, and if you linenback it, you better have it on your walls forever, because it's a pain to put away.  I'm not a big Star Wars completist, so it doesn't really stir my interest, but I'm obviously a minority. 

Which über rare ESB 6-sheet are you talking about?  I own this 3 sheet for ESB, and it's the perfect size (IMO)  And it's not rare.

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Starwarsempirestrikesback8.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 09, 2011, 07:36:22 PM
Which über rare ESB 6-sheet are you talking about?

The mythical one I just invented with Noriyoshi Ohrai's artwork... DUH.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 09, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
How about this 40x60in?  Doesn't do it for you?  Too small?

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Starwarsempirestrikesback23.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on August 09, 2011, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
The mythical one I just invented with Noriyoshi Ohrai's artwork... DUH.  ;)

I thought I invented that one ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
T, that is a great ESB poster and probably sufficiently large. However, I don't collect Star Wars (just a couple for good measure). I was pointing out that this ROTJ 6-sheet was a mythical poster before last week.

If I'm going invent my own mythical ESB 6-sheet, I would like it based on Ohari's artwork. But I would settle for one based on the first release quad art as well. 

I've had just about enough of your real posters thank you very much! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on August 09, 2011, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 08:57:03 PM

I've had just about enough of your real posters thank you very much! :P

Yeah I think I might have fried the camera!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on August 09, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 07:01:15 PM
I have a feeling the completionists may well really want this!

Bruce

Yep.  $2175 worth.
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 09, 2011, 09:52:31 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 09, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
Yep.  $2175 worth.

Impressive. Most impressive. (heavy breathing)

I was thinking it would top out at $1500-$1700.
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Post by: Bruce on August 09, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
I wonder what that tiny strip of missing paper would be worth? Or the same poster in mint condition?

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on August 09, 2011, 10:06:17 PM
Hard to believe that went for $2,000+.   uhno

Well truthfully I do I understand WHY - but there are so many other posters that are a lot nicer that could be had for the same price!
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Post by: jayn_j on August 09, 2011, 11:34:15 PM
Guess it was what Bruce said about completists.  Given that, I wonder if the condition mattered much.
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Post by: joneyyy on August 10, 2011, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on August 09, 2011, 10:06:17 PM
Hard to believe that went for $2,000+.   uhno

Well truthfully I do I understand WHY - but there are so many other posters that are a lot nicer that could be had for the same price!

why not, id rather be buying this than a silly mondo print for 2k
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Post by: CSM on August 10, 2011, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: AmovieMasterpiece on August 10, 2011, 09:37:48 AM
why not, id rather be buying this than a silly mondo print for 2k

Who said anything about Mondo prints being anything BUT silly?!
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Post by: Zorba on August 10, 2011, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 10, 2011, 11:00:11 AM
Who said anything about Mondo prints being anything BUT silly?!

Uhhhhh. Nobody.

I agree with you Chris. I think that now, after two years of exploring the uncharted seas,  I could slap together a pretty sweet little collection I would enjoy the hell out of for $2175.

I however am not a Star Wars fan. One mans eeehhhh poster is another mans grail. 
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Post by: Ari on August 10, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: brude on August 03, 2011, 10:20:17 AM
You talking about FORBIDDEN PLANET, Ari?
For shame.
 nono


no ad now I cant recall what I was talking about, I love FB like any good person does. hmmmmm
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Post by: CSM on August 10, 2011, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: Ari on August 10, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
no ad now I cant recall what I was talking about, I love FB like any good person does. hmmmmm

You had me worried all this time!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 13, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Don't miss this one! (It's worth about $50)

The seller's name should be imamoron

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Butch-2.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on August 13, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
imafindasucka?
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Post by: Bruce on August 13, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
I see I missed two comments about that Empire Strikes Back 6 sheet:

Harry wrote: "That is definitely a crazy rare poster Bruce... who consigned it?  Was it someone who worked for the studio?  Could it be a foreign issue (no rating)?"

Harry. it DID come from another country, and it WAS used in a theater, and it was in a pile of theater used posters. You may not know it, but 99% of the post 1975 three and six sheets were solely printed for use in other countries (they are all stamped "foreign" on the back) and it seems that the U.S. stopped using them, but non-U.S. ones kept on (like with lobby cards).

Jay wrote: "No matter what it sells for, my bet is that it ENDS at Poster Mountain or some other restoration shop.  Real question is what it sells for next year, linenbacked and restored."

Usually you might be right Jay (and of course often the next auction house "forgets" to note the restoration), but in this case NO WAY because the high bidder (and the underbidder) are completionists who would never sell it (but I am sure it WILL be restored, and it will be relatively easy, because they have a perfect reference for the missing art).

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 13, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 13, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
(but I am sure it WILL be restored, and it will be relatively easy, because they have a perfect reference for the missing art).

Bruce

meaning: Bruce has another that will be sold in the future and it's either in nice shape or un-used
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Post by: jayn_j on August 13, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 13, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
meaning: Bruce has another that will be sold in the future and it's either in nice shape or un-used

Not at all.  Artwork is identical to the one sheet.  The one sheet artwork can easily be enlarged and used.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 13, 2011, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 13, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
Not at all.  Artwork is identical to the one sheet.  The one sheet artwork can easily be enlarged and used.

Jay.. I'll lay you action on such a bet and take my side of the analysis
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Post by: Bruce on August 13, 2011, 06:34:44 PM
Sorry, Rich. Jay got it right in his analysis of what I meant. Maybe someone else will find one, but who knows when? Some people hate waiting a decade or two.

Bruce
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Post by: jayn_j on August 13, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
I'll take my winnings in 1 sheets, preferably Bond, James Bond  ;D
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Post by: CSM on August 14, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 13, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
I'll take my winnings in 1 sheets, preferably Bond, James Bond  ;D

 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 13, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
I'll take my winnings in 1 sheets, preferably Bond, James Bond  ;D

I have a stack of Willow and Just Tell Me What You Want posters all boxed up to go.. what's your shipping address??

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/just_tell.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/poster_willow.jpg)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on August 14, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
I have a stack of Willow and Just Tell Me What You Want posters all boxed up to go.. what's your shipping address??


On file.  I'm disappointed though as I thought bet was worth at least an Ishtar.

On second thought, nevermind.  The bird died and don't need liners anymore.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 14, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
On file.  I'm disappointed though as I thought bet was worth at least an Ishtar.

On second thought, nevermind.  The bird died and don't need liners anymore.

I think I can add an Ishtar poster as long as you promise to frame it in the living room next to the TV set
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Post by: jayn_j on August 14, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
I think I can add an Ishtar poster as long as you promise to frame it in the living room next to the TV set

Sorry, no TV in the living room, but I've got a nice blank wall just above the cat's litter box.
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Post by: CSM on August 14, 2011, 02:48:08 PM
I love it when a plan comes together!  Can't wait to see pics (just make sure to include the cat)
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Post by: Bruce on August 26, 2011, 12:25:19 PM
When I saw this magazine we listed last Sunday I thought "That is INCREDIBLE art by Rolf Armstrong" and obviously two people agree with me!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/magazine_screenland_nov_1929_a_JM02587_L.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2280526 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2280526)

Bruce
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Post by: Louie D. on August 26, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 26, 2011, 12:25:19 PM
When I saw this magazine we listed last Sunday I thought "That is INCREDIBLE art by Rolf Armstrong" and obviously two people agree with me!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2280526 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2280526)

Bruce


WOW, really??  Hell, time to start unloading some of my old movie mags!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 26, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
actually I think this Armstrong is way better
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/armstrong2.jpg)

and just for good measure, I think this Mozert is also way better.
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/mozert2.jpg)

I like them even better when I'm showing them to friends who visit wynk
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on August 27, 2011, 11:45:31 AM
mid auction analysis - We have some really cool (and rarely seen) Hungarian Star Wars posters up for auction right now. No link provided here but they are easy to find.
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Post by: erik1925 on August 27, 2011, 05:50:34 PM
THE WAR OF THE WORLDS   1965 re-release. Opening bid- $4100.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/War-Worlds-1965-Release-VF-Original-Poster-/310340894881?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4841c240a1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/War-Worlds-1965-Release-VF-Original-Poster-/00/$(KGrHqF,!i0E4rQIWJtQBOVHWTP8h!~~48_3.JPG)

As a comparison, an identical poster, also on linen, just sold at Heritage, in July, for $1912.00, inc the BP.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 02:12:21 PM
for those who are interested, a Lost in Translation Serbian poster is listed on fleaBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarlett-Johansson-LOST-TRANSLATION-Serbian-rare-/260845024149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbb933395
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Post by: brude on August 30, 2011, 02:41:28 PM
You can keep that Serbian LOST IN TRANSLATION, Rich.  I want your framed pinups By Zoe Mozert and Rolf Armstrong.....
They are spectacular!
What size(s) are they?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
framed they both stand about 4 feet
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Post by: brude on August 30, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
framed they both stand about 4 feet

Wow...big'uns they be.
With all of your years in the biz, I'll bet you have a lot of other fine art pieces just laying around the warehouse.
Why not post some of those beauties for us to see?  Maybe in the Graphic thread?
 pcorn
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: brude on August 30, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
Wow...big'uns they be.
With all of your years in the biz, I'll bet you have a lot of other fine art pieces just laying around the warehouse.
Why not post some of those beauties for us to see?  Maybe in the Graphic thread?
 pcorn

not as many as I used to have.. My art collection once numbered over 1000 pieces from 1900-1975.
you can see some at http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=19939

the two pinup pieces, Taschen contacted me yesterday looking to include them in their next pinups book
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Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 03:17:29 PM
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=19939

WOW, some REAL nice pieces there.  I could get lost looking at original EC artwork all day long.  Do you have any covers?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
WOW, some REAL nice pieces there.  I could get lost looking at original EC artwork all day long.  Do you have any covers?

louie, at one time I had one of the 5 largest collections of EC art and I had about 30 or more covers during my art collecting career. I sold the last of them 8 years ago and only have the one story left

if I can find some time, I'll post images of the covers I used to own

I don't have too many pieces of art left.. maybe 30-40 in my collection
I had my fun.. I moved on
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Post by: brude on August 30, 2011, 09:56:31 PM
Really like the SUPERMAN VS. ATOM MAN and FLASH GORDON posters, Rich.
Now start a thread: THE RICH HALEGUA POSTER COLLECTION.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to see those other posters all in one place.  wynk
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Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 04:37:58 PM
louie, at one time I had one of the 5 largest collections of EC art and I had about 30 or more covers during my art collecting career. I sold the last of them 8 years ago and only have the one story left

if I can find some time, I'll post images of the covers I used to own

I don't have too many pieces of art left.. maybe 30-40 in my collection
I had my fun.. I moved on

Nice.  I could never afford any of that art back in the day but bought nearly all of the box sets that Russ Cochran came out with.  Great stuff.

and then there's this:
http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6069&lotNo=30020&lotIdNo=11031&ts=off#Photo
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 01, 2011, 07:08:31 PM
I normally don't post in this thread... but wow, $83 with 5 days still left to go!  http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2289484

I bought mine directly from Matias (forum member '110x75' from Argentina) a while back for a fraction of that price!  Then again, it doesn't surprise me... its a great poster.  Possibly the best one for that film, IMO. 

Sorry Matias, I'm sure you'll get a flood of requests because of this post... I just hope you have some more in stock!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 01, 2011, 11:51:51 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
Nice.  I could never afford any of that art back in the day but bought nearly all of the box sets that Russ Cochran came out with.  Great stuff.

and then there's this:
http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=6069&lotNo=30020&lotIdNo=11031&ts=off#Photo

I had some of those.......
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Post by: 110x75 on September 02, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 01, 2011, 07:08:31 PM
I normally don't post in this thread... but wow, $83 with 5 days still left to go!  http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2289484

I bought mine directly from Matias (forum member '110x75' from Argentina) a while back for a fraction of that price!  Then again, it doesn't surprise me... its a great poster.  Possibly the best one for that film, IMO. 

Sorry Matias, I'm sure you'll get a flood of requests because of this post... I just hope you have some more in stock!

I thought the same... wow! Looks like you got a bargain ;D
This sort of demonstrates that a foreign poster with different art -for a cultish film- can bring good prices, unlike ones with the same art than their country of origin counterparts (for example the inglourious basterds one with the same art of the US international 1sh...)
And that price surely has to do too with the amount of collectors that follow Bruce`s auctions...
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 04, 2011, 07:35:44 PM
Who here feels comfortable bidding on linen-backed Uni horror in 2 AH (Year 2, After Haggard)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190573223801&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_7380wt_1163

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Post by: Bruce on September 04, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
They posted this:

"I have had a few emails asking about where and how I aquired this poster. So here is the story. The person I bought this from, purchased it 22 years ago from an estate of a collector after he passed away. The estate had told them that the original collector aquired this poster in the 1970's. The collector had 100's of assorted movie posters and movie memorabillia. They bought everything from the estate and sold off all of the items except for this poster. They took this poster to a proffesional restorer to have it linen backed for preservation. Unfortunatley they could not remember the name of the restorer. This was the last item left from the original collection and they only decided to sell it because they needed money. Hope that helps. Good luck! bruce "

So they know everything that proves it authentic, EXCEPT the single bit of info that could actually prove it, namely who the restorer was.

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on September 04, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 04, 2011, 07:35:44 PM
Who here feels comfortable bidding on linen-backed Uni horror in 2 AH (Year 2, After Haggard)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190573223801&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_7380wt_1163



Very interesting and a total beauty if authentic!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 04, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
earlier today I sent him a message asking if he would be willing to send the poster to MPG for authentication BEFORE I would pay for the winning bid

I got no response, although other people got the same response as Bruce
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 04, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 04, 2011, 08:17:59 PM
earlier today I sent him a message asking if he would be willing to send the poster to MPG for authentication BEFORE I would pay for the winning bid

I got no response, although other people got the same response as Bruce

Yup, this is the only way I would do it.  In fact, that is what I requested with the recent Clockwork Orange poster as well and that seller, to his credit, offered to have it sent directly to MPGrading and I would only pay *after* it was authenticated!  This seller's credibility remains to be seen...

Bruce/Rich, am I correct that there are an untold number of forgeries still floating around?  And I think I even read that his wife was busted selling fakes while Haggard was still being indicted -- she was trying to raise money for his defense no less!  It seems like this issue is going to plague the hobby for decades as these things float around...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 04, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 04, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
Bruce/Rich, am I correct that there are an untold number of forgeries still floating around?  And I think I even read that his wife was busted selling fakes while Haggard was still being indicted -- she was trying to raise money for his defense no less!  It seems like this issue is going to plague the hobby for decades as these things float around...

1st, he responded: Hello Rich -Yes I will send it for authentication. good luck! bruce - littlemarz

2nd.. we have no doubt there are still forgeries extant and will be for a number of years as they weed out of collection in auto collecting circles as well as poster circles (Haggard sold auto collectibles for 20 years and we certainy believe he traded posters for cars and the like)
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Post by: Der Januskopf on September 04, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
What would be interesting to know, too, is when this was backed. The note at the bottom of the auction page mentions nothing, so if it had been backed in the last several years, it could be a "Haggard original." The fact that the name of the restorer has been forgotten seems a bit of a red flag. Even if the name couldnt be remembered (?).. certainly the city and state of where it was done would be of some help.

It looks to be in great shape and the colors are vibrant, that's for sure. Not a hint of a fold line shows (at least in the images) and it is interesting that the seller comments on them, saying that they can be felt and seen, if one looks close enough.

With 6 days to go and the bidding at 1550.00, it will be interesting to see where it tops out.

Kerry
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Post by: Der Januskopf on September 04, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
Speaking of Universal fakes --- would/could this title be suspect, too? Or is this too far down the popularity ladder, to have possibly been forged?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INVISIBLE-MAN-S-REVENGE-1-SHEET-POSTER-LINEN-/260844890225?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3cbb912871

(http://i12.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/7e/7c/725f_1.JPG)

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Post by: Bruce on September 04, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
This is going to be resolved (depending on where he sends it):

"Since I have had so many inquires about the authentication of this poster, I am going to cancel this auction, have the poster authenticated, then relist. thanks, bruce "

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 04, 2011, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 04, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
This is going to be resolved (depending on where he sends it):

"Since I have had so many inquires about the authentication of this poster, I am going to cancel this auction, have the poster authenticated, then relist. thanks, bruce "

Bruce

MY QUERY TO HIM INCLUDED A LINK TO MPG
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Post by: CSM on September 06, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
This guy is trying VERY hard to do everything he can to ignore the obvious (and advice from many others).  Someone is going to be mighty disappointed paying for these!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1933-DUCK-SOUP-MOVIE-POSTER-ORIGINAL-MARX-BROS-/250884195468?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a69dd048c

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1929-COCOANUTS-MOVIE-POSTER-MARX-BROS-ORIG-/250884568917?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a69e2b755
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 06, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 06, 2011, 06:39:09 PM
This guy is trying VERY hard to do everything he can to ignore the obvious (and advice from many others).  Someone is going to be mighty disappointed paying for these!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1933-DUCK-SOUP-MOVIE-POSTER-ORIGINAL-MARX-BROS-/250884195468?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a69dd048c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1929-COCOANUTS-MOVIE-POSTER-MARX-BROS-ORIG-/250884568917?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a69e2b755

That's pretty funny that he has the blacklight test totally backwards (it's the new paper that "aluminates" and helps give away the fact it's a repro)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 06, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on September 04, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
Speaking of Universal fakes --- would/could this title be suspect, too? Or is this too far down the popularity ladder, to have possibly been forged?

Haggard did not make any fakes of this particular poster (Invisible Man's Revenge).
There is always the possibility that someone else has made one since, but think that is a much more remote chance and would feel fairly safe bidding on this - except for the fact that it is priced at about 10X fair market value.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2011, 07:03:57 PM
Those Marx Bros repros have fooled many amateurs over the years, although many recognize the heavier stock as "wrong" for a 1930s one-sheet. The "expert" from Antiques Roadshow "authenticated" the Duck Soup repro as a $10,000 Thirty By Forty original!

Bruce
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 06, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
Have you seen these cardstock Marx Bros posters before Bruce?  I came to this thread to post these and was (not so) surprised to find them already being discussed!
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on September 06, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
I've been having an email conversation with this guy all day (Marx Bros. posters). He has a lot of his "facts" wrong but I think he may be seeing the light (at least I hope so).
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on September 06, 2011, 09:18:17 PM

Just got another email from him, it doesn't look like he is seeing the light. Oh well, I tried. I gave him a link to this board so he could read it and see for himself.
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Post by: 50s on September 06, 2011, 09:30:37 PM
Showed a guy a couple of Italian 4F's I have and he reveals he has a $50K very large color scanner and now wants to go into business with me reproducing them and selling them on ebay. I said, um,... I'll think about it... (not)

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Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2011, 09:56:40 PM
I have only seen the Duck Soup. There were a lot of those. I did not know that the person who did that did any others, so I am not sure what the other is, but it is NOT an original poster.

Of course this guy doesn't want to "see the light". It is like telling him there is no Santa Claus.

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on September 06, 2011, 10:35:59 PM
He'd probably see the light more easily if (uninformed) bidders had not run them up to over $300 and over $600 respectively!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 06, 2011, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on September 06, 2011, 09:18:17 PM
Just got another email from him, it doesn't look like he is seeing the light. Oh well, I tried. I gave him a link to this board so he could read it and see for himself.

you're asking him to let go of $1000 in bids.. not too many people will do that
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Post by: brude on September 06, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
Quote from: 50s on September 06, 2011, 09:30:37 PM
Showed a guy a couple of Italian 4F's I have and he reveals he has a $50K very large color scanner and now wants to go into business with me reproducing them and selling them on ebay. I said, um,... I'll think about it... (not)



There's one in every crowd, isn't there?
Good for you, Steve. 
Tell him to go suck hind teat....

                                 
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on September 07, 2011, 09:52:53 AM

The marx bros guys name is jason judd. He knows they are not real, and he doesn't care. He is a criminal. Sometimes sellers are really clueless and want to do the right thing so I generally give them the benefit of the doubt. That is NOT the case here.

here is one of the messages he sent:

"like I said not worried about the truth but I have a good feeling is that you dont even have a clue if this is real or not. Like i told you on last text I've been in contact with some one and if i find out thats its real im going to a different market. Just perhaps if it ever did turn out the posters are fake how much would the posters be worth."

so, if he finds out they are real he will remove them from ebay and try and get a better price elsewhere, probably an auction house. Funny thing is that I told him to contact Heritage, Bruce, LAMP, and MPGrading for their opinions, but he refuses.


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Post by: Harry Caul on September 07, 2011, 10:09:28 AM
I think its time for the forum to start bombing this guy...  EBay probably won't do shit, but at least the complaints will be on the record for when Mel tracks down the buyers and warns them!  ;D



(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4986/capturearo.png)
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Post by: Der Januskopf on September 07, 2011, 04:48:58 PM
The onslaught must have worked.. the poster has been removed !   clap

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6063/6124610601_30f4b7dc14_z.jpg)

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Post by: Neo on September 07, 2011, 08:28:58 PM
Noice.   clap  Good work, gentlemen.  thumbup
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Post by: CSM on September 07, 2011, 09:49:26 PM
Beautiful (until it ends up "restored" at Profiles that is  ;D )
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
OK, I bet $20 BOTH of these Black Swan international one sheets (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2300190) go for more than $300.  Who wants to take me on?  (And yes I won't bid directly or indirectly on them.)

Thierry, where are you? I know you'll take this bet....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-09-11at55538PM.jpg)

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Post by: eatbrie on September 11, 2011, 06:05:36 PM
I hate these posters.  I find them atrocious.  But I know a lot of people like them, for whatever reason, so this is not a bet I will take.  When I see an ESB poster worth $200 sell for $1k, I stop making bets.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Yes, the world has gone batsh*t mad! 

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-09-11at60659PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 11, 2011, 06:11:26 PM
Don't get me started on those.  People are idiots.
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Post by: Charlie on September 11, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
OK, I bet $20 BOTH of these Black Swan international one sheets (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2300190) go for more than $300.  Who wants to take me on?  (And yes I won't bid directly or indirectly on them.)

Thierry, where are you? I know you'll take this bet....



Do you guys ever get the feeling there is money to be had with some of these posters.  I could get a set of quads for like $100 and sell them on emovie for $1000 even at 40% that is a $500 profit...
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Post by: Bruce on September 11, 2011, 06:26:40 PM
We always want new consignors to add to our 800 present ones!

But bear in mind that past performance is no guarantee of future results!

Bruce
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Post by: CJ138 on September 11, 2011, 06:34:30 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on September 07, 2011, 09:52:53 AM
The marx bros guys name is jason judd. He knows they are not real, and he doesn't care. He is a criminal. Sometimes sellers are really clueless and want to do the right thing so I generally give them the benefit of the doubt. That is NOT the case here.

here is one of the messages he sent:

"like I said not worried about the truth but I have a good feeling is that you dont even have a clue if this is real or not. Like i told you on last text I've been in contact with some one and if i find out thats its real im going to a different market. Just perhaps if it ever did turn out the posters are fake how much would the posters be worth."

so, if he finds out they are real he will remove them from ebay and try and get a better price elsewhere, probably an auction house. Funny thing is that I told him to contact Heritage, Bruce, LAMP, and MPGrading for their opinions, but he refuses.

He has two first names. That is reason enough not to trust him.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
Quote from: Charlie on September 11, 2011, 06:17:55 PM
Do you guys ever get the feeling there is money to be had with some of these posters.  I could get a set of quads for like $100 and sell them on emovie for $1000 even at 40% that is a $500 profit...

Maybe, but will it all end in tears of joy or sorrow?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Time_Magazine_June_13_2005_Cover.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on September 13, 2011, 08:08:56 PM
just dont invest, buy em if you like, these things come and go. I would bet in 20 years black swan will be where it deserves in history (take that as you like). I dont like many of the classics, BAT, or SW, and many others, but BS, sorry cheesey but that was AWFUL, if thats a cult film when I am ready to retire, I'll eat 3 of my many hats.
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Post by: Charlie on September 13, 2011, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: Ari on September 13, 2011, 08:08:56 PM
just dont invest, buy em if you like, these things come and go. I would bet in 20 years black swan will be where it deserves in history (take that as you like). I dont like many of the classics, BAT, or SW, and many others, but BS, sorry cheesey but that was AWFUL, if thats a cult film when I am ready to retire, I'll eat 3 of my many hats.

Its not the film that will bring it longevity; the artistic elements will.  Think about all the ballet nuts.  The posters themselves are quite striking.  Come up with another poster as striking as the advance with the white Natalie Portman that is not a long term winner.  She won the academy award and her beautiful face is on the poster in a very artistic way.  The two US one sheets tie in the story line itself (bet none of you guys thought about this);  the advance is the white swan (before the film's release) and the review is the black swan (post release with reviews) just like the film. Then there are the La Boca graphics; again tell me another poster like these that ended up flopping after 20 years?  This ain't no Titanic...  If La Boca did a limited run of an Art Deco Titanic it would still be bringing in hundreds; think of the Schindler's List Art Deco 1-Sheet.  

And personally I don't invest in posters (yet) haven't ever sold one.  But Black Swan is for me.

JMO...
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Post by: guest8 on September 13, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
I have the B1 and I think its an outstanding poster!
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Post by: Ari on September 13, 2011, 10:10:27 PM
I lkikie some of the art, shame abouyt the movie, gimme RED SHOES any day.
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Post by: Charlie on September 15, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
Well the emovie money is at it again.  I took two (good) shots at the French African Queen and it was like "Nope" then "Sorry".  Man I need to get a second job or win the lottery...  Maybe these guys are international buyers and taking advantage of the weak dollar?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2298755#BID (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2298755#BID)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on September 16, 2011, 03:19:05 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIST-FURY-UK-Orig-30x401972-Bruce-Lee-Martial-Arts-/310344317057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4841f67881
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Post by: crowzilla on September 18, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
OK, I bet $20 BOTH of these Black Swan international one sheets (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2300190) go for more than $300.  Who wants to take me on?  (And yes I won't bid directly or indirectly on them.)
Thierry, where are you? I know you'll take this bet....


T - looks like you missed your chance to make some extra money off Mel.

See Mel, not everyone likes to overpay for posters like you do. (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/poke2.gif)
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Post by: 50s on September 19, 2011, 12:24:32 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 11, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
OK, I bet $20 BOTH of these Black Swan international one sheets (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2300190) go for more than $300.  Who wants to take me on?  (And yes I won't bid directly or indirectly on them.)

Thierry, where are you? I know you'll take this bet....

Quote from: crowzilla on September 18, 2011, 11:59:56 PM
T - looks like you missed your chance to make some extra money off Mel.

See Mel, not everyone likes to overpay for posters like you do. (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/poke2.gif)


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/stretcher.gif)

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 19, 2011, 12:43:03 AM
Hey boys, here's a little somethin' for you:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/BelovedBrat.jpg)
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Post by: jayn_j on September 20, 2011, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: USMCSS on September 20, 2011, 02:14:19 PM
Call me crazy, but I really like this poster! Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell are the artists. I think this is the french version from what I can see on IMPA. Would love to have one!

(http://www.impawards.com/intl/france/2010/posters/rubber_ver3.jpg)

Does it actually exist?  There was some discussion on this Rubber poster a few months back and I thought it had been rejected.
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Post by: USMCSS on September 20, 2011, 02:26:54 PM
Hey Jay,

I moved the post over to the Fantastic Film Posters - What strikes your fancy thread. Anyway, I think you might be right as I can not find it anywhere, only in reprint mini size.
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Post by: CSM on September 30, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2325248

Might be one of the ugliest posters ever.  Brando looks like a sickly Joker!
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Post by: kovacs01 on October 04, 2011, 11:56:55 PM
my wife just did a mid auction analysis for me.  it went like this.......

"you bid how much on that???  you better f'n hope no one else wants it just a little less than you do."
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Post by: holiday on October 05, 2011, 12:00:45 AM
Oooooo you're in truuuubllllllleee!



Quote from: kovacs01 on October 04, 2011, 11:56:55 PM
my wife just did a mid auction analysis for me.  it went like this.......

"you bid how much on that???  you better f'n hope no one else wants it just a little less than you do."
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Post by: kovacs01 on October 05, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 05, 2011, 12:00:45 AM
Oooooo you're in truuuubllllllleee!




Nah, she knows that I wont overpay for something.  She also knows that I do not buy much these days, and what I do buy does not exactly show up every week at auction.  She just likes to harass me sometimes.
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Post by: Zorba on October 05, 2011, 10:14:14 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 04, 2011, 11:56:55 PM
my wife just did a mid auction analysis for me.  it went like this.......

"you bid how much on that???  you better f'n hope no one else wants it just a little less than you do."

 laugh1

That is the story of my poster buying life.  8)
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Post by: Charlie on October 05, 2011, 09:23:49 PM
Man never show your cards until the auction is over.  I have more than once used the "I was just bidding and didn't think I would have won it.  It should have gone for more. I messed up, sorrrryyy..."  Never an issue after it is too late...   ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 02:15:20 PM
These Canadian posters appear in Bruce's Thursday auction. They are an advance set, created and intended for in-house use only, for a Christmas 2001 release - however, the film was not released until Christmas 2002. The posters are exceptionally rare - less than 20 copies of each style were supposedly printed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_dicaprio_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_diaz_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_day_lewis_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

Mark
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Post by: Zorba on October 07, 2011, 02:27:40 PM
They are very cool...Id love to have em but they will be way out of my price range.  :-[
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 07, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 02:15:20 PM
These Canadian posters appear in Bruce's Thursday auction. They are an advance set, created and intended for in-house use only, for a Christmas 2001 release - however, the film was not released until Christmas 2002. The posters are exceptionally rare - less than 20 copies of each style were supposedly printed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_dicaprio_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_diaz_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/gangs_of_new_york_day_lewis_teaser_heavy_stock_NZ03094_L.jpg)

Mark

So do you already own these Mark?  Or by posting them here are you in effect peeing on them to mark your territory!  ;D
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Post by: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
I already have a set so will not be bidding. These are beautiful, high quality posters - they have a plasticised finish so you probably could pee on them without long term damage if you so wished.

Mark
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Post by: CSM on October 07, 2011, 04:27:55 PM
Mark clearly has ulterior motives - just wants to drive the price up on these, thereby in theory increasing the value of his set ;)
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Post by: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
No, just providing a bit more information on them than Bruce did. I'd be bidding on them if I wanted to drive the price up.

Mark
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Post by: CSM on October 07, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
No, just providing a bit more information on them than Bruce did. I'd be bidding on them if I wanted to drive the price up.

Mark

I was being facetious Mark.  You should e-mail Bruce directly with the info (if you haven't done so) so he can update the auction.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
I know - I don't know how to choose the right smileys! And Bruce has now updated his descriptions.

Mark
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Post by: CSM on October 07, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
I know - I don't know how to choose the right smileys! And Bruce has now updated his descriptions.

Mark

 thumbup
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Post by: Bruce on October 07, 2011, 06:30:26 PM
Thanks very much Mark. We very much rely on experts like yourself (and there are well over 50 people who regularly help us) to keep our auctions the most accurate of any major auction.

Bruce
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Post by: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
No, just providing a bit more information on them than Bruce did. I'd be bidding on them if I wanted to drive the price up.

The real question is: where did you get that information?

From you description it sounds like they were more likely to be used for outdoors (Plastic finish) and not in-house.  They may have become 'in-house' only once they changed the release date.
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 07, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
The real question is: where did you get that information?



Just what I was thinking...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 08:18:35 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
The real question is: where did you get that information?

From you description it sounds like they were more likely to be used for outdoors (Plastic finish) and not in-house.  They may have become 'in-house' only once they changed the release date.

From Jason Carter of Love Canadian Film. It is evident from handling these thick posters that they are a high quality (expensive?) printing which were intended to impress.

Mark
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Post by: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
I'm sure they look nice, but Advance Character posters with company and website info?  Heavy duty plastic laminate? These lead me to believe that they were not meant for 'in-house' use.  At least, not initially.  Heavy plastic laminate is usually used for posters that will be exposed to the elements (Outdoor).  High-gloss is usually meant to impress.  Unless, they were for some trade show or large event (where one-offs would have more likely been used), something just doesn't sound right with the info....

Recently, Focus Features used ink printed onto thin 100% plastic 'paper' for review one-sheets for The American and Jane Eyre, but this may have been because of an extreme amount of very small text.




Also, Bruce's Aladdin Genie teaser is a wilding poster... so are the Fight Club teasers... and I'm pretty sure the Gattaca is a wilding... really Bruce?  It's a good thing that you have 50+ people 'correcting' your 'expertise'.  How much do you pay for their service?

Posting Mark's unsupported comment verbatim on the auction listing is something DaveMasterpieces would do... a cheap (cheaper than usual) sale tactic...
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Post by: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
BTW & FYI, anyone looking at the Fight Club should be aware that after the initial wilding posters started going for relatively big bucks on eBay (a few years after release) a 'second wave' of wilding poster sets popped up on ebay from questionable sellers.  It was also reported to MPT that the second wave was on different paper from the original wildings.

Do with that as you will...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 08, 2011, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: marklawd on October 07, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
I already have a set so will not be bidding. These are beautiful, high quality posters - they have a plasticised finish so you probably could pee on them without long term damage if you so wished.

Mark

I figured that must be the case!  Thanks for the added info.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 08, 2011, 12:57:15 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 07, 2011, 09:25:21 PM
BTW & FYI, anyone looking at the Fight Club should be aware that after the initial wilding posters started going for relatively big bucks on eBay (a few years after release) a 'second wave' of wilding poster sets popped up on ebay from questionable sellers.  It was also reported to MPT that the second wave was on different paper from the original wildings.

Do with that as you will...

I wish I had a basis to compare.  I've had a set for years, and nothing stands out as far as the printing.  Do you know of anyone who has handled them first hand to compare?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 02:48:45 AM
Yes, the person on MPT (who was a regular poster, not some fly-by-nighter) had an original set (even sold off a few extras if I remember correctly) and then later picked up a 'new' set when the cheap second wave hit.  He remembered noticing that the new set was on different paper (spongier, I believe) than the originals, but didn't have time for a deeper comparison.  Which was and is a little frustrating...

I have two that I bought individually from highly trustable sources long before the 'second wave'.  What I don't have is any of the 'second wave' to compare.  Even if I did, right now the originals are 3000 miles away, so it would be tough.


BTW, aren't those Open Range posters that Bruce has listed also wilding posters?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 02:57:42 AM
Also, I look forward to the day when peeing on a poster becomes the de facto authenticity test...


Good times...  :)
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Post by: kovacs01 on October 08, 2011, 02:58:19 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 02:48:45 AM
BTW, aren't those Open Range posters that Bruce has listed also wilding posters?

Not sure......there was a quad that used that campaign though, with all 3 characters on the same piece of paper.  Beats the heck out of 3 separate one sheets, IMO.
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Post by: marklawd on October 08, 2011, 07:19:31 AM
Archie - I've given you a source for the information as you requested. Jason was a guy who had an encyclopedic knowledge and massive collection of Canadian film posters and if I do not qualify as a "knowledgeable collector" he most certainly would. This hobby is largely based on opinions, more so with rare and unusual posters and prospective purchasers can choose to be influenced by Bruce's addendums or not. I welcome the responsive way in which Bruce provides additional information during the course of his auctions but I do not think he should refer to this having been provided by "advanced collectors" or "experts". Unless the changes are technically obvious or he quotes the name of an undoubted source I think he should just say "the following opinion has been received". I do have the additional advantage in this case of being able to inspect the posters and I simply cannot imagine them having being printed for external use. I think your suggestion that they were for a trade show or similar is more plausible.

Fight Club. I have an original set bought at the time of the film's release and sets from the "second wave" - I forget when these first appeared. The only difference I can ascertain is that the original set is 3/4" wider (they are both the same height). The quality of printing and the paper stock appears to be the same. Could these not just be from a second print run rather than reproductions?

Mark
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 02:57:42 AM
Also, I look forward to the day when peeing on a poster becomes the de facto authenticity test...


Good times...  :)

Is your DARK KNIGHT B sheet the real McCoy?  Let Mr.Wayne put it to the test...

                                                                           (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/Batmanpeegif.gif)

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Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: marklawd on October 08, 2011, 07:19:31 AM
Archie - I've given you a source for the information as you requested. Jason was a guy who had an encyclopedic knowledge and massive collection of Canadian film posters and if I do not qualify as a "knowledgeable collector" he most certainly would. This hobby is largely based on opinions, more so with rare and unusual posters and prospective purchasers can choose to be influenced by Bruce's addendums or not. I welcome the responsive way in which Bruce provides additional information during the course of his auctions but I do not think he should refer to this having been provided by "advanced collectors" or "experts". Unless the changes are technically obvious or he quotes the name of an undoubted source I think he should just say "the following opinion has been received". I do have the additional advantage in this case of being able to inspect the posters and I simply cannot imagine them having being printed for external use. I think your suggestion that they were for a trade show or similar is more plausible.
I appreciated your responses and I am not trying to make any kind of assertion regarding your knowledge level (or that of Mr. Canada).  Considering the sheer number of times (a whole bunch) that I've been an under-bidder to auctions that you've won, I have a pretty good idea that you know your stuff.  

What I am saying is that 20 is a weird amount.  Why would they need anything like that many for a trade show/event?  And a Canadian one at that...  :P  For something like that they would be more likely to print up one-offs.  It's obvious that they don't come around very often no matter how you look at it - it's just that putting a number on it seems a little much.  I wish I could inspect the coating and compare it to some of the oddballs in my collection.

Quote from: marklawd on October 08, 2011, 07:19:31 AM
Fight Club. I have an original set bought at the time of the film's release and sets from the "second wave" - I forget when these first appeared. The only difference I can ascertain is that the original set is 3/4" wider (they are both the same height). The quality of printing and the paper stock appears to be the same. Could these not just be from a second print run rather than reproductions?

Very good to know.  The second wave was sometime after the Doc Ock controversy (same sellers). Actually, that size difference, which is pretty significant, would lead me to believe that the second wave were more likely reprints. According to Dan, 1/4" or less variations are generally common.  3/4" means that something else is up.  At the very least, being that much smaller is definitely a warning sign...
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Post by: wonka on October 08, 2011, 12:14:18 PM
Re: Fight Club wilding/teasers

I distinctly remember seeing these wrapped up against cardboard in the racks at Suncoast a month or so after the film came out. All of these variations were there, and at the time, there were about 4 of each...all with the Suncoast gold sticker seal of "Official Movie Poster" (which to the collector should mean "Don't Buy This Unless You Have Plans For Your Dorm Wall").

Take that for what its worth.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 12:55:33 PM
This whole conversation has weirded me out.  Now I don't know what/who to believe.  I think I'm going to refrain from bidding on any of these posters.  Too much trouble.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 01:04:34 PM
Plus, I do reminder very distinctively seeing the Open Range posters on construction sites.  They are definitely wilding.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 08, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 12:55:33 PM
This whole conversation has weirded me out.  Now I don't know what/who to believe.  I think I'm going to refrain from bidding on any of these posters.  Too much trouble.

T

But will you undertake the "Pee on your Poster" authenticity test challenge?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
On the 3 Gangs posters?  Definitely.  Scorsese's worst movie (IMO, of course) and it would be my pleasure to pee on the despicable Cameron Diaz.  I can't stand her.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 08, 2011, 03:09:34 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
it would be my pleasure to pee on the despicable Cameron Diaz. 

I'd like to do this myself.. but that's because I like her and have weird sexual fantasies that include her in leather and Saran wrap
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 08, 2011, 03:09:34 PM
I'd like to do this myself.. but that's because I like her and have weird sexual fantasies that include her in leather and Saran wrap

"Ohhhh, Rich...you really know how to turn a woman on!"

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/cameron.gif)(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/cameron.gif)(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/cameron.gif)(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/cameron.gif)(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/cameron.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 08, 2011, 07:19:31 AM
I welcome the responsive way in which Bruce provides additional information during the course of his auctions

  Yeah, but Bruce is quick to point out anything that will enhance the final sale price, just as he is quick to remove something that would damage his reputation.

  Also, no offense, but your assertions and Mr. Canada are not the same thing as a studio source.  Like with the Sam Bass Schindler poster, the limited nature and purpose was verified by someone inside the studio.

  For Bruce to to post in an auction that some collector thinks there are twenty or so in existence reeks of opportunism.

 

 Brian
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Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
I'm not home, so I can't post pictures, but I'm sure Ted can find a nice picture of this beauty without makeup.  

Actually, here's one (http://www.thesuperficial.com/cameron-diaz-face-no-makeup-lax-08-2011).

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
 Yeah, but Bruce is quick to point out anything that will enhance the final sale price, just as he is quick to remove something that would damage his reputation.

  Also, no offense, but your assertions and Mr. Canada are not the same thing as a studio source.  Like with the Sam Bass Schindler poster, the limited nature and purpose was verified by someone inside the studio.  To post that some collector thinks there are twenty or so in existence reeks of opportunism.

  Brian

Brian, I worked at Universal, DreamWorks and Amblin, one of my good friend was the one time head of DreamWorks distribution and I cannot tell you how many times I read statements about this or that poster that turned out to be completely wrong.  Assumptions are made constantly by us collectors (I make them too, for lack of real knowledge), and they don't mean shit.  Whether Gangs is Canadian, US, wilding, fake... all blah blah since no one knows for sure.  If you like the posters, buy them for that reason, not because of what they could or could not be, because you don't know.  When the Schindler's List poster showed up at Moviegoods, I personally contacted Paul Martin, former head of Universal Distrib. and asked him about it.  Then I knew for sure.  And only then.  

T
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Post by: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 05:04:51 PM
  T, I totally get what you are saying and do not disagree with a single word.  Bruce holds out his organization as the ultimate, beyond Christie's and the rest.  He brags about his company never being involved in forgeries and scandals.

  There is absolutely nothing to back up the assertion of 20 in existence as the auction describes. You simply have one person (Mr. Canada) asserting an opinion and another person (marklawd) saying he believes the first person.

  That seems really, really, really weak in my book.  It should take more than that to make it into an emovie description.

  Brian
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Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
I agree that Bruce could simply say "rare" instead of "20".  That would do the trick as well and would be truer.  But our hobby is based on hype, so I'm not surprised.  I won't bash Bruce for misinformation, though.  Out of all the sellers I know, he is the only one who asks the right questions, listens and corrects his mistakes.  But at the end of the day, he also makes a living out of posters.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 08, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 04:49:08 PM
I'm not home, so I can't post pictures, but I'm sure Ted can find a nice picture of this beauty without makeup.  
Actually, here's one (http://www.thesuperficial.com/cameron-diaz-face-no-makeup-lax-08-2011).

I wasn't planning on looking at her face
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 08, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 05:13:08 PM
I won't bash Bruce for misinformation, though.  Out of all the sellers I know, he is the only one who asks the right questions, listens and corrects his mistakes.  But at the end of the day, he also makes a living out of posters.

I'm insulted
I want a divorce
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 08, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
I wasn't planning on looking at her face

Here's something to get your mad on....

http://www.giftopia1.com/c/Cameron-Diaz.php (http://www.giftopia1.com/c/Cameron-Diaz.php)

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/Nicnever/UPDATE%20007/CameronDiaz-TheresSomethingAbout-5.gif)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 08, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
You Diaz haters need to get a testosterone injection....

(http://soraiazohdiblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image4.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on October 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Thanks for the link T.  :P

It is one scary looking halloween skank.

(http://cdn02.cdn.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/0804-cameron-diaz-ugly-face-10-480x720.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 08, 2011, 12:14:18 PM
Re: Fight Club wilding/teasers

I distinctly remember seeing these wrapped up against cardboard in the racks at Suncoast a month or so after the film came out. All of these variations were there, and at the time, there were about 4 of each...all with the Suncoast gold sticker seal of "Official Movie Poster" (which to the collector should mean "Don't Buy This Unless You Have Plans For Your Dorm Wall").

Take that for what its worth.

Are you certain on that timeline?  That it was '99 and not '04ish... 

This is the first time that I've heard of Suncoast reprinting wilding posters.  I am more than a little surprised in that the Fight Club wilding teasers just weren't around in any kind of quantity before the second wave hit...
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Post by: Neo on October 08, 2011, 07:00:38 PM
Cameron Diaz is not perfect, but she is very attractive IMHO. 
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Post by: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
There are enough perfect women in this world to not worry about the imperfect ones. 
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 07:12:10 PM
There are enough perfect women in this world....

But only one Kate Beckinsale...

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Post by: Louie D. on October 08, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
Quote from: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
But only one Kate Beckinsale...

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Fuck, the pasta is overcooking!
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Post by: Charlie on October 08, 2011, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on October 08, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
Fuck, the pasta is overcooking!

Why the fuck were you looking at the pasta?  Those Top Gun discussions are starting to effect your game man...  Pasta; anybody else see the pasta?  Is this were I should make a cheesy noodle reference?
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:50:33 PM
What pasta?

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Post by: Louie D. on October 08, 2011, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:50:33 PM
What pasta?

                   (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/KateB02.gif) Thank you again, Esquire!  happy1

What, did she leave her tits at home?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
Great, now I'm hungry...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 08, 2011, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Assumptions are made constantly by us collectors (I make them too, for lack of real knowledge), and they don't mean shit.  Whether Gangs is Canadian, US, wilding, fake... all blah blah since no one knows for sure.  If you like the posters, buy them for that reason, not because of what they could or could not be, because you don't know.
T

Very well said, Thierry, and a message that can be forgotten sometimes. Important info to be reminded of, especially to newer folks in the hobby.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 08, 2011, 08:21:45 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
Are you certain on that timeline?  That it was '99 and not '04ish...  

This is the first time that I've heard of Suncoast reprinting wilding posters.  I am more than a little surprised in that the Fight Club wilding teasers just weren't around in any kind of quantity before the second wave hit...

Yes, this was in 1999. I remember it vividly, it was my Junior/Senior year at Purdue. Just one of those random memories I remember, but at that time my roommate and I were really into the film, and we were at Suncoast with my girlfriend at that time and my roommate was literally going to buy one of each and put them all on a single wall. He was really wanting one to have the slogan "You are NOT your Fucking Khakis" and was dismayed that that particular slogan didn't make the cut, haha. But food and beer money beat out a bunch of Fight Club soap posters, and at the time, rightfully so.

Another reason I pull from the past in this regard in terms of clarity is because I see my roommate once a year in Indianapolis for the Big Ten tournament. This past March, he brought up how he still loves the film (which brought up a Fincher discussion/debate) but regrets never buying those posters. Being the poster nerd that I am, I told him I would try to track down a set for him. This is the first set I have seen since, and have already sent the auction links to him. Doubt he even bids, his wife has him on a short lea$h.

I digress, apologies for the random and extra info, but I am certain in seeing those images at Suncoast 11 years ago.
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Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 08, 2011, 04:57:02 PM
Whether Gangs is Canadian, US, wilding, fake... all blah blah since no one knows for sure.  

T

Well, the one thing we do know is that they are Canadian - the Alliance logo tells us that...
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Post by: Zorba on October 08, 2011, 08:34:39 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 08, 2011, 07:00:38 PM
Cameron Diaz is not perfect, but she is very attractive IMHO. 

Like with posters, to each his own.

Kate on the other hand...mmmmmmmmm....Kate she is yummy.
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Post by: wonka on October 08, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Cameron Diaz looks like thirty miles of bad road.
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Post by: CSM on October 08, 2011, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
But only one Kate Beckinsale...

                                       (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/KateB03.gif)  Thank you, Esquire!  happy1



 mesmrized mesmrized mesmrized
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Post by: CSM on October 08, 2011, 09:52:06 PM
Kate is a goddess, Cameron is a troll (the goat eating kind)
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Post by: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 10:30:41 PM

  A little more Kate never hurt..... ;D


(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/23/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-kate-beckinsale-edition/Beckinsale_unzipped.gif)
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Post by: brude on October 08, 2011, 10:41:46 PM
Nice gif, man....

                                             (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/claply7.gif)

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Post by: archie leach on October 08, 2011, 10:44:08 PM
Can we just make a hot chick gif thread?

Unless you want to start auctioning off some of these, which I am not all that against...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 08, 2011, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 10:30:41 PM
  A little more Kate never hurt..... ;D


(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/23/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-kate-beckinsale-edition/Beckinsale_unzipped.gif)

NEVER!
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Post by: eatbrie on October 09, 2011, 03:17:19 AM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 08, 2011, 10:30:41 PM
  A little more Kate never hurt..... ;D


(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/23/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-kate-beckinsale-edition/Beckinsale_unzipped.gif)

This is AWESOME!  A thing of beauty.

Thank you!

T
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Post by: ddilts399 on October 10, 2011, 11:54:36 AM
Well, F... ; the Gangs are now pulled.

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Post by: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 12:43:41 PM
Sorry, Dale. The consignor contacted us, claiming they were "sent in error" along with a bunch of other posters, and begged me to end the auctions, and return them to him.

I normally NEVER do this (as those who watch our auctions know) but I tend to believe him, and I told him I will do it this one time, but to never send anything else thinking we might end it early.

And of course we never end an auction because someone makes a very high offer, as so many auctions do.

Anyway, many of the experts here seem to think there are tons of these out there, so maybe some of them can find a set for you.

Bruce
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Post by: holiday on October 10, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
I sympathize with your situation Bruce, but there's no doubt that whoever consigned them got wind that something was up with them, maybe even from this thread. This part of the problem with having a thread like this that alerts both buyers and sellers of things that are counterproductive to effective auction sales, depending on whether you are a buyer or seller. Oh well, less money spent, and that's a good thing.

Quote from: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 12:43:41 PM
Sorry, Dale. The consignor contacted us, claiming they were "sent in error" along with a bunch of other posters, and begged me to end the auctions, and return them to him.

I normally NEVER do this (as those who watch our auctions know) but I tend to believe him, and I told him I will do it this one time, but to never send anything else thinking we might end it early.

And of course we never end an auction because someone makes a very high offer, as so many auctions do.

Anyway, many of the experts here seem to think there are tons of these out there, so maybe some of them can find a set for you.

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 10, 2011, 01:31:35 PM
No need to fret. Baywatch: Forbidden Paradise (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2335970) is still available!  Hasselhoff rules!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/baywatch_forbidden_paradise_JC01549_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 10, 2011, 03:42:29 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 10, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
I sympathize with your situation Bruce, but there's no doubt that whoever consigned them got wind that something was up with them, maybe even from this thread. This part of the problem with having a thread like this that alerts both buyers and sellers of things that are counterproductive to effective auction sales, depending on whether you are a buyer or seller. Oh well, less money spent, and that's a good thing.


  That was my thought that the seller decided he had let a real "winner" go and wanted them back.  I am sure that it will be privately sold and never see the light of day again.  The poster has never been auctioned before by emovie nor Heritage which combined is like 750,000 searchable auction results.  Private sale no commission could have saved that guy a lot of money.

  What do you guys think the high value would have been?  Dale you were high bidder. Holiday how much did it save you?
500 each, 800 each, more?


  Brian


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on October 10, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
It seems that someone other than me may have believed "Mr Alliance Atlantis" when he said there were less than 20 sets in existence.

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 10, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: marklawd on October 10, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
It seems that someone other than me may have believed "Mr Alliance Atlantis" when he said there were less than 20 sets in existence.

Mark

One can never really be 100% sure of this sellers motives but it sure does look that way.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 10, 2011, 06:48:54 PM
  So exactly what is the point of a mid-auction analysis? Only Bruce knows for sure, but Mark appears to be the source of the attributed "20 set" description in the auction.  Dale and Holiday were all over this auction, and probably knew what it was without being told.  Now neither has a chance to purchase it.

  How does a mid-auction analysis really help anyone but the Seller?

  Brian

  PS.  Not withstanding the excellent Kate Beckinsale posts   ;D
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 10, 2011, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 10, 2011, 06:48:54 PM
 So exactly what is the point of a mid-auction analysis? Only Bruce knows for sure, but Mark appears to be the source of the attributed "20 set" description in the auction.  Dale and Holiday were all over this auction, and probably knew what it was without being told.  Now neither has a chance to purchase it.

Probably best if Mark had never disclosed that info publicly but it's water under the bridge.

BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2333714), the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/MadMax1UK1S.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 10, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
I don't begrudge this thread at all.  A lot of learning was done and that's the point.  There's so many damned posters out there that  missing the op to buy this set really is like giving a tic tac to a whale -  it really doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 10, 2011, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: brude on October 08, 2011, 07:50:33 PM
What pasta?

                   (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/KateB02.gif) Thank you again, Esquire!  happy1

 laugh1 Now I understand the pasta reference... doh! There it is!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
I guarantee you these won't be sold anytime soon. The consignor is a guy just like Mark who LOVES extreme rarities of posters of the past 50 years. He says he sent them by accident (they were rolled in with much lesser posters) and whether or not that was true, he won't be offering them for sale anywhere (maybe when he offers his entire collection).

But given how so many here thought the 20 or less was ridiculous, how about someone finding even ONE set for sale or auction?

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 10, 2011, 08:50:42 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
But given how so many here thought the 20 or less was ridiculous, how about someone finding even ONE set for sale or auction?

Bruce

  Maybe your right Bruce, but I do know of another set that I prefer more.... ;D


                          (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/23/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-kate-beckinsale-edition/Beckinsale_unzipped.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 10, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 12:43:41 PM
Anyway, many of the experts here seem to think there are tons of these out there, so maybe some of them can find a set for you.
Quote from: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
But given how so many here thought the 20 or less was ridiculous, how about someone finding even ONE set for sale or auction?

Bruce

Where did you pull that from?  I was arguing that the 20 figure seemed very arbitrary and that either many more were produced (and subsequently destroyed after the date change) or that far fewer were produced to begin with.  Either way, this simple fact that haven't popped up tells you that not many are around.

I was suggesting that throwing around a rumored actual number was a used car sales technique of Dave L. proportions.  That, and whatever EXPERT you have doing your auctions might need a refresher course on wilding posters...

 


As for the purpose of this thread - the Fight Club discussion is a perfect example of some valuable information coming to light, although it can be hard to make out between all of these silly gifs derailing the actual discussion, but usually it's just an excuse for Bruce to pimp his auctions other than in the sales or dealer threads.

BTW, the Fight Club/Suncoast issue is one well worth bringing up again...  I was under the impression that Suncoast reprinted their own posters, SS and slightly smaller than originals (I know they sold 27x40 Star Wars A & C's, but more recent reprints were closer in size to the originals).  If that's the case, then there would have been a second printing of the FC wildings, as Mark's info suggests, sometime just after the time of release.  Suncoast passed through several hands and bankruptcy in '05 and '06 and I could certainly see them liquidating old stock at some point, which could account for the second wave hitting around that time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 11, 2011, 12:49:31 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 10, 2011, 07:16:34 PM

BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2333714), the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster:

And Mr. HemorrhoidHead wants it badly...  whip
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: idioteque on October 11, 2011, 01:41:54 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 10, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
I don't begrudge this thread at all.  A lot of learning was done and that's the point.  There's so many damned posters out there that  missing the op to buy this set really is like giving a tic tac to a whale -  it really doesn't mean anything.

Well put.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: skyjackers on October 11, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
Quote from: Bruce on October 10, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
I guarantee you these won't be sold anytime soon. The consignor is a guy just like Mark who LOVES extreme rarities of posters of the past 50 years. He says he sent them by accident (they were rolled in with much lesser posters) and whether or not that was true, he won't be offering them for sale anywhere (maybe when he offers his entire collection).

But given how so many here thought the 20 or less was ridiculous, how about someone finding even ONE set for sale or auction?

Bruce

I remember seeing these on ebay many years ago and the seller stated then that there were about 5 copies printed and they were made to show the Studio execs. I don't know if that's the truth but that was his story.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 11, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
"BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500, the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster"

Hey Mel, if you thought $500 was a super-high price, what do you think about the current price? And look at who is the underbidder!

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 11, 2011, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: Bruce on October 11, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
"BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500, the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster"

Hey Mel, if you thought $500 was a super-high price, what do you think about the current price? And look at who is the underbidder!

Bruce

I told it already... HemorrhoidHead wants it BADLY  whip
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 11, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 10, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
although it can be hard to make out between all of these silly gifs derailing the actual discussion...

Oh boo-fucking-hoo, Beethoven.

                                         (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/crocodile-tears.gif)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 11, 2011, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 11, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
"BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500, the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster"

Hey Mel, if you thought $500 was a super-high price, what do you think about the current price? And look at who is the underbidder!

Bruce

Posers and minor-leaguers. The real money will show up at the end....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2011, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 11, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
"BTW the Mad Max UK one sheet is now at $500, the highest price ever at a consignment auction for a Mad Max poster"

Hey Mel, if you thought $500 was a super-high price, what do you think about the current price? And look at who is the underbidder!

Bruce

maybe Dave is pissed and wants to winner to have a hemmoroid
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: originalcinemaposters on October 11, 2011, 01:33:26 PM
in my humble opinion the Quad rules over the one sheet!
(http://www.originalcinemaposters.com/800%20pic/landscape/mad%20max%20quad%20c8%20c9.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 11, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
Bruce, why do you dismiss Archie's questions? I think they are fair ones to ask.

You started this whole thread all the while understanding the odds being stacked in your favor of an eMovie paper being discussed in the first place (read: more advertising).

I don't understand why you want us to check out your exceedingly long sales info entries week after week, but disregard honest questions when they are brought up.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 11, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: brude on October 11, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
Oh boo-fucking-hoo, Beethoven.

petty...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on October 11, 2011, 09:09:23 PM
British one-sheets apparently is a smokin hot market right now is all I can say.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 11, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
So it sold for $1,012.  I'd give the edge to the one sheet for this design, although it's not a blowout:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Max-compare.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on October 11, 2011, 09:25:39 PM
It's a vertical image - I think it looks much better in one sheet format.

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 11, 2011, 10:16:37 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 11, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
So it sold for $1,012

I wonder what happened to the real money.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 12, 2011, 12:49:28 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 11, 2011, 06:54:30 PM
petty...

Actually, pretty funny.  What was really funny is commenting about the gif's when for awhile there you were using a bear and a cumshot as your avatar.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 12, 2011, 01:32:51 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 12, 2011, 12:49:28 AM
Actually, pretty funny.  What was really funny is commenting about the gif's when for awhile there you were using a bear and a cumshot as your avatar.



Oh THAT's what that was  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 12, 2011, 03:24:40 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 12, 2011, 12:49:28 AM
Actually, pretty funny.  What was really funny is commenting about the gif's when for awhile there you were using a bear and a cumshot as your avatar.

Actually, considering that he threatened to delete my post from 'his' thread before having it suggested to him to lighten up, and then immediately gif bombed this thread when an actual discussion broke out, I think that would qualify as being rather petty...

I don't give a shit about the gifs, but posting (and re-posting) a bunch of the same ones does nothing to help the discussion.




And it was a squirt bottle - you made it dirty all on your own....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 12, 2011, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 12, 2011, 03:24:40 AM




And it was a squirt bottle - you made it dirty all on your own....

Was it really?  That's amazing. I really thought....

I guess the gif's didn't bother me so much because of the subject matter.  I could look at that all day long.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 12, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 10, 2011, 08:06:01 PM
I don't begrudge this thread at all.  A lot of learning was done and that's the point.  There's so many damned posters out there that  missing the op to buy this set really is like giving a tic tac to a whale -  it really doesn't mean anything.

Quote from: idioteque on October 11, 2011, 01:41:54 AM
Well put.

I am pretty sure most of us do appreciate the actual freedom of speech that is allowed on this forum and that that freedom it is allowed equally for all.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 13, 2011, 02:04:16 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 12, 2011, 11:57:31 PM
As you know that issue has been debated many many times on this board and there's never been a consensus.  Once it hits $1,000, it's fair game for public discussion in my book. There are very few APF members who are playing at that level.  This particular one was not going to slip "through the cracks."

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 12:33:42 AM
Just because you don't agree with everyone else doesn't mean there wasn't a consensus  ;)

Seriously though, its easy to dismiss it as 'fair game' when you aren't bidding.  The price of the poster shouldn't matter... we all collect in different price ranges.  Most of us know your collecting habits Mel and I doubt many people have 'outted' under-priced posters here... in fact I've even sent you links on occasion (exclusively I might add) hoping to help you get a deal.  There are definitely plenty of Bond collectors here on APF so it is just a common courtesy. 

And don't be so quick to assume that even high priced posters won't fall through the cracks...  I know I've found some killer bargains on eBay (that luckily weren't discussed on APF), even at $1K+. 

I think everyone who brings a mid auction item to the attention of the poster community should also bring to attention an auction they themselves are currently bidding on, better still, being of equivalent value...

I am bidding in a few days on an item certain to go over Mels $ threshhold and I would be gutted if it appeared on this forum. It has been years since it has appeared for sale anywhere in any condition and probably never seen for sale in this pristine condition.

I think only high profile, key auction items may be mentioned eg a frankie or metropolis at Heritage

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 13, 2011, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2011, 02:04:16 AM
I am bidding in a few days on an item certain to go over Mels $ threshhold and I would be gutted if it appeared on this forum.


I know that feeling.  8)

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 12:33:42 AM
The price of the poster shouldn't matter... we all collect in different price ranges. 

Matt, you make a great point about our collecting price ranges. My threshold would be much lower than $1,000.



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 08:25:49 AM
You guys are just rehashing arguments that the  "majority" - spearheaded by "Con Man Carson" - made and lost ages ago:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ScreenShot2011-10-13at82102AM.png)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ScreenShot2011-10-13at82134AM.png)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 13, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
I think I can side with Mel in some ways here.  Because there are some deep pockets on here, if I knew there was a poster of interest that crept out of what I would pay, I would think it a benefit for other members to know about it.  Because at that level, money is not the biggest concern.  If you are willing to pay $1000, then $1200 isn't much more... well, its $200 more, but my point is if you are willing to pay $1000, then you really want it.  Plus, if it is not for your collection and your thinking you can get it for less as an investment or to flip, then I am even more happy to let those that would truly appreciate it know.  In the spirit of the hobby it should go to someone who really wants it.  Plus, Mel won't catch them all...

Is there not one instance of a mid-auction post benefiting a member?  The other way I have started do this, is if I know certain members are into certain posters I PM them.  I have run across some stuff I thought others would like to know about and just send them a link.   
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 13, 2011, 08:47:08 AM
Quote from: Charlie on October 13, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
Is there not one instance of a mid-auction post benefiting a member?    

Absolutely.  8)

I have gotten pms from more than one member.

This is not at all a simple topic. It is a double edged sword. I am all for the freedom and on this forum and that it is up to the individual what they post.

BTW. I would never compare Steve and Matt to Carson.  :P

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
This is all just my opinion... feel free to disagree.


I think that about covers my thoughts on the topic...

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 10:51:37 AM
Obviously SOME people do like this topic, because it is not very far behind the Post Auction topic (in views or replies) even though it was started much later on.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 13, 2011, 11:20:45 AM

  Why would you NOT check it?  I mean it is a heads up on posters you may not have noticed before the auction ends.  This is great for you Bruce and the sellers, but not for the buyers who have already spotted the auction.  This thread does nothing more than create an alert to attract more attention to poster auctions.

  Additionally Bruce, it acts as another reference point for you to glean more information for promotional purposes.  And, it also gives you a heads up on mislisted items which helps to protect your reputation for accurate sales.  In essence this thread is like your 30th employee at times.

  This thread's useful information would be just as spectacular in a post auction thread:

          Holiday:  I just scored this set of rare posters, I can't believe the deal I got.  Check them out on my updated website!  ;D

                                                                VS.

           Dale: Hey, my auction got pulled because the seller broke his contract with Bruce and pulled the items.   :'(




  Brian
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 13, 2011, 11:25:34 AM
I agree with with every point Matt.

This one sums up how I feel about it better than I did or could.
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
  • At the same time, I agree with Holiday/T's decision not to censor the forum -- so Mel is definitely within his rights as a forum member to post these mid-auction items -- However, it is also my right to disagree the practice each and every time he does it, even if we've had the conversation before.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on October 13, 2011, 11:32:23 AM
Excellent summary, Dr. Caul.  I had to edit my post because I couldn't condense my essay on a highly contentious topic such as this into a quick post.  Good job with the bullet points.  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 13, 2011, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
  • For all of you, if you see something that you think another collector would like... tell them about it over PM.  But also let them know that if they aren't interested in it that they should pass it on to someone they think would be interested in it.  Believe me, it will eventually get to the right person.

I very rarely check this thread, because it makes absolutely no point to me.  I'm after the better deal, but once it is posted on a public forum, it instantly dies.  So I'm not going to go through the agony of seeing something I want knowing that everybody knows about it.  Matt has been extremely generous over time in passing auctions to me in private, which is how I like it.  This thread is essentially a dealer thread.  If you don't want to overpay on an item, stay out of it.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on October 13, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
Well said Matt, Zorba And T, 

I very rarely even look in the mid auction thread, never mind post. As T says I don't want every lurker or forum member in on my deals, otherwise it would cost me more money, or I would lose the poster. I may have bid on the Hand Quad up to $1500, but not now thanks for Fucking that up Mel....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 13, 2011, 12:00:10 PM
Thanks for taking the time to write out and edit your thoughtful points Harry. Basically everything I agree with and have been saying, but put in more patient and descriptive tones. Again, I agree with everything Mr. Caul says.

The point of the Goldfinger outing at the time Mel chose to do so is there is no point. The same discussion could have been had after it had ended. What is the rush? Why post it now? For what purpose? It's just thoughtless and careless, bottom line.

Also, you guys do know that guests far outweigh regular participating members, so odds are that some 'guest' will benefit from senseless outings anyway.  Just so inane on every level.

And Bruce, if your rationalization lies within the number of views, you should start your next topic with any combination of: Free Posters, eMovie 30% off coupon, I hate Dave, Boobs, bigger Boobs, and so on. The mice across the poster world would be a'clickin. Ultimately, this is 'eMovie Ad Thread Incognito' more times than not, which is what your initial purpose was.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
As I said around 25,000 views ago, if it offends people, delete the entire thread.  sm1

And we "only" have 25 employees, so this thread is the unofficial 26th. And why am I (other than Rich) the only person who auctions posters who contributes here in a non-selling way?

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
As I said around 25,000 views ago, if it offends people, delete the entire thread.  sm1

And we "only" have 25 employees, so this thread is the unofficial 26th. And why am I (other than Rich) the only person who auctions posters who contributes here in a non-selling way?

Bruce

Bruce, as I stated above there is a fundamental difference between you posting here as a seller and other buyers posting here.  I don't think anyone would argue against you promoting your auctions so long as it is in the appropriate threads.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 13, 2011, 01:52:02 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
As I said around 25,000 views ago, if it offends people, delete the entire thread.  sm1

And we "only" have 25 employees, so this thread is the unofficial 26th. And why am I (other than Rich) the only person who auctions posters who contributes here in a non-selling way?

Bruce

  Bruce, I am cool with you.  I believe that this thread should not be deleted nor censored. I cannot help but check it since I am not always hip to what the hottest poster is up for auction.  But the down side to that, is that it draws more attention to posters targeted by members.

  And I appreciate you and Rich for all your posts. Though I must admit, Rich gave me a free Pulp Fiction poster which trumped your catalogs.  ;D  

  I am enjoying your rolled poster auction, and look forward to tonight's showdown.  


Brian
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 13, 2011, 03:05:08 PM

  Oh, and Kate has helped with the number of views.   qip
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 13, 2011, 03:51:58 PM
From the perspective of a guy who's item just got posted in this thread (I was HemorrhoidHead by the way), I kind of agree with Matt.  Just because the item does not interest you or it is what you would call "expensive" does not mean you are the only one that feels that way.  Out of courtesy for others, I tend to avoid posting active auctions.  I figure that there is as good a chance I will cost someone money as help someone save some.  But I also understand that anyone is well within their right to post them if they want to.  In my particular case listed above, I don't really think it cost me much if anything.  I think Dave was going to take his shot regardless (thanks Dave).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 13, 2011, 04:08:52 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 13, 2011, 03:51:58 PM
From the perspective of a guy who's item just got posted in this thread (I was HemorrhoidHead by the way), I kind of agree with Matt.  Just because the item does not interest you or it is what you would call "expensive" does not mean you are the only one that feels that way.  Out of courtesy for others, I tend to avoid posting active auctions.  I figure that there is as good a chance I will cost someone money as help someone save some.  But I also understand that anyone is well within their right to post them if they want to.  In my particular case listed above, I don't really think it cost me much if anything.  I think Dave was going to take his shot regardless (thanks Dave).

Agree with this...outing something just because it is out of your price range but not outing something you stumbled upon which you know someone else will want is hypocritical.  If you are going to out, out em all...i think everyone appreciates that the high traffic sites are fair game, but as someone else stated ebay auctions are a different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on October 13, 2011, 04:26:27 PM
Congrats on that awesome one sheet, Schan.  There was another bidder, Outpost31, at the end of the auction for that one.   That is an epic piece.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 13, 2011, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 13, 2011, 04:26:27 PM
Congrats on that awesome one sheet, Schan.  There was another bidder, Outpost31, at the end of the auction for that one.   That is an epic piece.

Thanks!  I did not mention that other guy because I don't know whether his bid was a result of this thread or not.  Dave's most likely was not.  I am think that guy's was just a grudge bid, but he chicken when it hit $1000.
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Post by: Neo on October 13, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
I wouldn't consider it a "grudge bid."  Various things about that piece really increase the cool factor for it IMO.  The last (and only) one emovieposter sold was 7 years ago, and it seems logical to me that with the increase in popularity for the paper and the film that it could be even longer before another one like that appears for sale again.
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Post by: kovacs01 on October 13, 2011, 05:25:56 PM
You might be right.  Either way, it didn't increase the hammer price by very much percentage wise.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 06:03:07 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2011, 02:04:16 AM
I think everyone who brings a mid auction item to the attention of the poster community should also bring to attention an auction they themselves are currently bidding on, better still, being of equivalent value...
I am bidding in a few days on an item certain to go over Mels $ threshhold and I would be gutted if it appeared on this forum. It has been years since it has appeared for sale anywhere in any condition and probably never seen for sale in this pristine condition.
I think only high profile, key auction items may be mentioned eg a frankie or metropolis at Heritage

we've been over this discussion once before.. with lots of acrimony.
ain't happening Mathias..
although I rarely expose an auction for anyone, I will post something I have no interest in that I know people on this forum are. If you want to out every Raymond Chandler auction item that comes up.. go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. If I win it or lose it, I'm not losing sleep over it in any case
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 13, 2011, 01:52:02 PM
 And I appreciate you and Rich for all your posts. Though I must admit, Rich gave me a free Pulp Fiction poster which trumped your catalogs.  ;D  

 laugh1
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
why am I (other than Rich) the only person who auctions posters who contributes here in a non-selling way?

bruce.. I can actually answer this for my part:

I have no life.. all I do is wake up, work on auctions, eat, poop, work on auctions, eat, poop, work on auctions, watch some TV (yet still while working on auctions), work on my other business ventures, eat, poop and go to sleep

in between I play some online poker and post to forums so I don't seem to be an automaton and of course, once in a while I take a shower

ps. I also do some bidding buying posters for my collection
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Post by: crowzilla on October 13, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
And we "only" have 25 employees, so this thread is the unofficial 26th. And why am I (other than Rich) the only person who auctions posters who contributes here in a non-selling way?
Bruce

Uh-oh.  What happened to the other 4 members of the emovieposter team that you had just a few short months ago?
Has the weekly losing of thousands of dollars on all those items forced layoffs?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed you stay open until those Halloween auctions are finished.
 :)


(and my real guess is they might have been summer help who went back to school)
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Post by: 110x75 on October 13, 2011, 07:03:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 06:03:07 PM
we've been over this discussion once before.. with lots of acrimony.
ain't happening Mathias..

You keep mixing names Rich. 50s is Steve, I`m Matias (or 110x75). It baffles me seeing a Vegas man confused with so few numbers...  ;)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 07:18:31 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on October 13, 2011, 07:03:54 PM
You keep mixing names Rich. 50s is Steve, I`m Matias (or 110x75). It baffles me seeing a Vegas man confused with so few numbers...  ;)

what's your NSF id Matias
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Post by: 110x75 on October 13, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
110x75 too
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 07:27:33 PM
don't know why I keep making the mistake.. or why I ever made it.. too much information .. clogging brain.....
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
Those who think (1) I "ruined" this auction by posting it here or (2) thought they were going to get it at a bargain price are smoking crack.

With four days left, it had already blown $1,000, it had three bidders (two of whom had bid $1,000+), and one bidder with 10,000+ feedback (obviously a dealer). As of this evening it had 99 views and probably many watchers.  It's going to blow $4,000+ at the end, just like A Clockwork Orange did.

Also, let's not overestimate the import of this forum, as great as it is.  One prominent dealer told me 90% of his customers NEVER visit any forum.  Also, Heritage had 1000+ bidders in its last signature auction, and maybe 5-10 of them came from this forum.  

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/3bidders.png)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/99views.png)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Clockwork.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on October 13, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 06:03:07 PM
If you want to out every Raymond Chandler auction item that comes up.. go ahead.. it doesn't bother me. If I win it or lose it, I'm not losing sleep over it in any case

If I had 50 or more Raymond Chandler posters I likely would be over them too!  ;)

Cheers,

!(110 x 75 too)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2011, 07:37:42 PM
If I had 50 or more Raymond Chandler posters ........

....... you'd still be 50-100 short

 wynk
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Post by: 50s on October 13, 2011, 07:51:37 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
Those who think (1) I "ruined" this auction by posting it here or (2) thought they were going to get it at a bargain price are smoking crack.

With four days left, it had already blown $1,000, it had three bidders (two of whom had bid $1,000+), and one bidder with 10,000+ feedback (obviously a dealer). As of this evening it had 99 views and probably many watchers.  It's going to blow $4,000+ at the end, just like A Clockwork Orange did.

Also, let's not overestimate the import of this forum, as great as it is.  One prominent dealer told me 90% of his customers NEVER visit any forum.  Also, Heritage had 1000+ bidders in its last signature auction, and maybe 5-10 of them came from this forum.  




Lets suppose it is dealers that are reading these threads to be alerted to interesting auction items. Dealers who have little time to be trawling auction sites for themselves...thus pushing out the collectors. That clockwork orange bid history you briefly showed appeared to be won by a dealer (not a collector).
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2011, 07:51:37 PM
Lets suppose it is dealers that are reading these threads to be alerted to interesting auction items. Dealers who have little time to be trawling auction sites for themselves...thus pushing out the collectors. That clockwork orange bid history you briefly showed appeared to be won by a dealer (not a collector).


That particular Clockwork Orange poster is even rarer than the Irish Goldfinger quad but far fewer collectors are aware of its value.  It was never publicized.  We were talking about it behind the scenes and thought it might "slip between the cracks."  It didn't.  It blew up at the end notwithstanding its relative obscurity and lack of promotion. 

I don't agree that dealers don't "trawl" Ebay for bargains.  That's how a lot of them get their stock.
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Post by: 50s on October 13, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
I don't agree that dealers don't "trawl" Ebay for bargains.  That's how a lot of them get their stock.

That's not what I said.

I said the ones with little time to trawl ebay could get a heads up reading here. Trawling = thorough looking. Dealers can buy from ebay without trawling. Dealers often have many many sources of posters, ebay is just one. It is just not possible to manually trawl everywhere, always: that's what makes this thread potentially of benefit to them.



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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 09:08:29 PM
I never look at ebay.. I come to this thread to get all my ebay searches done.
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Post by: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 13, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
  Oh, and Kate has helped with the number of views.   qip

 :D :D
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Post by: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
Oh and the Goldfinger currently has 28 watchers.  I wonder how many were watching before the post?  ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
Oh and the Goldfinger currently has 28 watchers. 

How can you see the number of watchers?  Inquiring minds want to know....
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Post by: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:31:36 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 13, 2011, 10:29:52 PM
How can you see the number of watchers?  Inquiring minds want to know....

Mel I thought you were the internet poster detective?
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Mel, Mel, Mel... where do I begin?  You are responding like someone who was caught making a half ass argument and instead of admitting they were wrong, they double down with a bunch of dubious facts and figures trying to confuse the issue!  None of the statements you made support your premise... that outting a poster will definitely *not* affect the final auction value.

First of all, quit playing the victim... no one ever said you 'ruined' the Bond quad auction. We are having a philosophical debate about the pros and cons of discussing auction items before they end.  I listed a whole bunch of cons... I have yet to hear you list a single pro.  At best you are trying to claim you are doing no harm.  And I don't count discussing something for the sake of discussing something a pro.

As for this Bond quad auction, I stated before you did that this poster would probably end up at $3.5K-$4k, if not much higher.  I said 'probably' because Bond is a popular target for collectors and I've seen the hand quad go for similar amounts even in obscure auctions outside HA and Christies.  However, you stated 'It's going to blow $4,000+ at the end' like it is a guaranteed fact.  It very well might for the reasons I listed above, but that statement is not a fact you can use to back up your defense.  It is still conjecture at this point.

You also make a big deal of the 'large' last-minute snipes on the Clockwork orange poster and try to hold that up as evidence that deals can't be had on eBay for high value posters. I say horseshit.  Putting poster values aside for a second, do you really believe the presence of snipers means deals can't be had?  I'm pretty sure we all use sniping programs here... you included.  Have you never scored a deal with a sniping program?  I know I have many times... even on high priced posters.

And I find it absolutely laughable that you are trying to use the Clockwork poster prove your point!  This poster has sold on HA for $14,340, $15,535, and $19,120.  Christies has only sold it once for $14,292.  I'll flip your hyperbolic statement around and say that anyone who thinks that poster wasn't a bargain at only $6,677 is smoking crack.  That poster sold for only 35%-47% of its past auction values...  you tried to point to large last minute snipes, the presence of dealer bidders (which is also a strawman argument), and the 'behind the scenes' chatter (which you initiated by the way) as proof that this one didn't fall through the cracks... even without discussion in this mid-auction thread.  I would argue this poster DEFINITELY fell through the cracks and this seller left a good $5K min on the table.  You are again confusing your personal value proposition with the relative value of posters.  Just because a poster sold for 'a lot of money' (your definition) does not mean the buyer spent 'a lot of money' for it (market's definition).

Once again, is it your right to 'out' whatever auction you want... but it is also my right to call you a reckless idiot who will eventually cost other collectors on this forum real money... apparently just so you can be provocative.  As a lawyer I know its your job to put equal effort into defending both the good cases and the bad... but honestly, this one is a dog Mel and you need to walk away.  By the nature of auctions, we'll never definitively know if outting an auction led another collector to pay more than they had to... but there are no pros to doing so.  Why bother at all?  

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
Oh and the Goldfinger currently has 28 watchers.  I wonder how many were watching before the post?  ;)

27
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Post by: holiday on October 13, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
You know, Harry, I do go back and forth with the mid-auction analysis thread.  Selfishly, it may drive up the price on something I want.  For the greater good, though, it's educational, and it can alert someone who's long looking for a poster that one is out there.  I have no data to support this statement, but I don't think that there are many auctions out there for something good that will get missed, and if another bidder or two is added to the mix as a result of this thread, somehow it doesn't strike me as having too much a bearing on the final price.  It is fun to watch some of these auctions as they are happening.

But, as I said, I'm really torn.  If the thread were terminated, I don't think I'd cry over it. But at the same time, I wouldn't terminate it because I think it serves the community well.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
I am going to out auction right here and right now

this is Lily Auction.. she is a lesbian....

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/auction.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on October 13, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
She should never have outted her face but the rest looks ok...
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Post by: brude on October 13, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
this is Lily Auction.. she is a lesbian....

Did you say, L-L-L-L-Lesbian?  mesmrized

                                       (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/matrevir/Gifs/jnkiss1.gif) There I go again, mucking up another thread with a silly gif.  hitself
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2011, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: brude on October 13, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
Did you say, L-L-L-L-Lesbian?  mesmrized
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/matrevir/Gifs/jnkiss1.gif)
There I go again, mucking up another thread with a silly gif.  hitself

you should have jumped the gif about 5 more minutes into the movie
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 14, 2011, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 13, 2011, 10:49:28 PM
You know, Harry, I do go back and forth with the mid-auction analysis thread.  Selfishly, it may drive up the price on something I want.  For the greater good, though, it's educational, and it can alert someone who's long looking for a poster that one is out there.  I have no data to support this statement, but I don't think that there are many auctions out there for something good that will get missed, and if another bidder or two is added to the mix as a result of this thread, somehow it doesn't strike me as having too much a bearing on the final price.  It is fun to watch some of these auctions as they are happening.

But, as I said, I'm really torn.  If the thread were terminated, I don't think I'd cry over it. But at the same time, I wouldn't terminate it because I think it serves the community well.

Holiday, you are making about the only legit argument one could make... That you think it might help someone. I just happen to belelieve that you are probably equally if not more likely to hurt the very person you were intending to help by posting publicly. Given the risks, I think PMs are a much better option.
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Post by: Louie D. on October 14, 2011, 12:32:33 AM
this gif is so much better:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/robertpollard/parislind.gif)
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on October 14, 2011, 01:15:33 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 14, 2011, 12:30:29 AM
Holiday, you are making about the only legit argument one could make... That you think it might help someone. I just happen to belelieve that you are probably equally if not more likely to hurt the very person you were intending to help by posting publicly. Given the risks, I think PMs are a much better option.

Speaking of PM's they don't appear to be working.... I keep getting an 500 Internal Server Error....
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Post by: 50s on October 14, 2011, 01:22:20 AM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on October 14, 2011, 01:15:33 AM
Speaking of PM's they don't appear to be working.... I keep getting an 500 Internal Server Error....

Sounds painfull
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Post by: marklawd on October 14, 2011, 06:06:55 AM
I hope no one will out a rare poster I am interested in and if someone does that is just my bad luck. I don't blame anyone because this is a public forum with free speech but I will not contribute to any discussion on that poster mid-auction that might draw more interest to it. It can occasionally be to my advantage. Recently, some early high bidding was reported on a poster I planned to bid on. I had not seen it before prior to the auction and had not viewed the bidding. I correctly predicted that it was likely to go higher than I was prepared to pay and it encouraged me to locate the same poster elsewhere on the internet at a fraction of its eventual sale price.

If I come across a poster that I am not interested in (or because I already have it) but know that a specific individual is looking for it I will always pm them. They may have been an underbidder in an auction I won or have been brave enough to
make public a wants list. I didn't know anyone interested in the Gangs of New York posters and I decided to share the information I knew about the poster publicly. I had no idea of the fuss that would ensue and I am sorry that the posters were subsequently pulled.

Mark
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Post by: archie leach on October 14, 2011, 08:59:00 AM
Mark,

You mentioned that your Fight Club 'second waves' were slimmer, but do you recall the actual dimensions of each wave?

It was curious that the Bruce's Blood Stains & Rabies were one width (26 3/4) and Swollen & Feminine were another (26 1/2).  Do yours follow the same pattern?




As for posting auctions, the only time I'll post one while it is still ongoing is if there is a problem with the listing.  I notice that all of the wildings that I mentioned earlier were sold as 'original vintage theater-used'...
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Post by: marklawd on October 14, 2011, 09:28:26 AM
I can't do it just yet but over the weekend I'll measure the Fight Club posters and start a separate thread showing the dimensions, for easy future reference.

Mark
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Post by: archie leach on October 14, 2011, 05:55:26 PM
Thanks.  We might want to copy over the discussion up to this point as well.  Even if we don't have a definitive answer, it would be good to have a repository of anecdotal information to build upon. 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:29 PM

Once again, is it your right to 'out' whatever auction you want... but it is also my right to call you a reckless idiot who will eventually cost other collectors on this forum real money... apparently just so you can be provocative.

Harry, you have totally lost your cool and crossed the line of appropriate discussion here.  Really disappointing you have chosen to employ such vitriolic rhetoric.

Since it had three bidders and had crossed the $1,000 time in just three days of bidding, I made a good faith - and absolutely correct - estimation that the Irish Goldfinger quad was no longer a secret and was never going to sell for a bargain by Ebay standards. (And making a long argument short, we both know that valuable posters like the Clockwork Orange almost always sell for much less on Ebay than on the consignment auctions, especially the signature auctions and at Christies, so it's not proper to directly compare them.)

As it turns out, a***a - whoever s/he is - put in a multi-thousand $$$ bid on the Irish quad on October 11, the day before I mentioned it on APF.  How do I know?  Because on the same day s/he put a $3,500 bid on the companion sale of the From Russia With Love quad.  So if you want to bid for this, you - and any other bidder - had better pony up at least $4,500 to get it:

Goldfinger bids:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Goldfingerbidding.jpg)

FRWL bids:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/FRWLbidding.png)
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 15, 2011, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 12:00:22 PM
Since it had three bidders and had crossed the $1,000 time in just three days of bidding, I made a good faith - and absolutely correct - estimation that the Irish Goldfinger quad was no longer a secret and was never going to sell for a bargain by Ebay standards.

Mel-
This is a perfect example of where all your arguments, 'facts' and useless screen-captures fall apart in reality.  You keep using absolutes to try to make your point when we all know absolutes don't exist in this hobby/market.  You say you decision was 'absolutely correct' when in fact you are pulling something out of your ass -- the only actual fact we know is that the poster is still at $1250.  Yes, based on past performance, there is a very high probability that this poster will cross the $4K mark (which I predicted before you repeated it).  However, no one here has any f'ing idea what it will do when all is said and done.  That is how we all find the random bargain/deal in the first place.  The chances that one of us finds a great deal is admittedly small, but it does exist.  What you are doing by 'outing' posters is diminishing those already few opportunities to buy a poster at a bargain.  You would be pissed if people did it to items you collect and that are in your price range -- probably correctly because more of us collect in lower price ranges and posting on the forum will likely increase competition (and hence the final price).  What I take the most issue with is that you continue to argue that after it leaves your comfort zone of price/interest, that it somehow becomes fair game.  Mel, I like you and I enjoy your presence here, but that doesn't preclude me from calling out reckless and inconsistent behavior in this particular area.  Whether you want to believe it or not, you are potentially playing fast and loose with other people's money... I'm really sorry I 'disappointed' you for calling you out on it after you continued (and still do) to defend it as absolutely harmless.


All-
As many of you here know... two years ago I scored a Breakfast at Tiffany's 1-sheet on eBay for $305 -- this is a $3K-$5K poster mind you.  It was accurately described (original poster, mounted to linen), but worded in such a way that made it sound like it was likely a bootleg.  Does anyone really think I would have got it for so little if it had been a topic of discussion here?  If nothing else it likely (see those simple, but important qualifiers Mel?) would have inspired others to contact that seller, revealing the poster's authenticity.

Just a head's up, if Mel continues to try to justify that once a poster has crossed a certain price threshold that it becomes fair game for early discussion, I'm not going to bother responding.  I think I've made my position about as clear as one could at this point.  As mentioned, I'm not in favor of censoring this thread... I'm simply asking people to be mindful of others before they post here.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
Harry.. while I hear you talking about things that save you money, there are two sides to the argument and whether you agree or not with your opposite's philosophy, what you are essentially saying is that speech is not freedom to say anything you want (within polite conversation)

I have only outed a couple or three auctions over time and just because my opinion varies from yours does not mean I should not be able to post about any auction at any time if I wish too.

I along with others, will not be muzzled just to potentially save someone some money.
you win, you lose. that's life man.
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Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 03:46:04 PM
There is freedom of speech (and of posting) for sure but there is also respect for other collectors and forum members.  I side with Matt quite strongly.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 15, 2011, 02:48:51 PM
As mentioned, I'm not in favor of censoring this thread... I'm simply asking people to be mindful of others before they post here.


 thumbup

 cheers

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 03:46:04 PM
There is freedom of speech (and of posting) for sure but there is also respect for other collectors and forum members.  I side with Matt quite strongly.

there is also respect for those that do not agree with you Chris.
personally, I do not see posting public information as onerous.
If someone wants to post everytime a Big Sleep poster comes up (I have almost nothing on this title and need all of it) - it does not and will not bother me and I don't see someone posting such an item as disrespectful or discourteous. It neither changes my attitude about winning or losing nor does it make me emotional after losing. If someone beats me in a fair contest, congrats to him/her.

also, I think it really gets down to a simple tenet: it is not my right to censor what someone else says about anything, although it may be my right to respond. similarly, no one has the right to censor what I say or request I censor what I'm going to say, as long as what I'm saying is not untrue or outside of acceptable behavior
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
by the way.. it seems to me that everyone against outing auctions is a collector looking to save money or have reduced competition

how do you think the sellers feel about it?
your wishing to muzzle the "outers" is anathema to the seller getting a better value.

there are two sides to all arguments on this issue
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
Rich, I do completely understand what you are saying.  

But I am not arguing for censorship.  I am arguing for respect - meaning perhaps someone who is going to post about a live auction should think twice or even thrice about just WHY they are posting about it in the first place.  I.e. what are their motives?  A lot of times, in my opinion, it comes across as a 'prestige post' - as in, "oh look at me and revel in how great I am that I can find this item on the internet - shower me with accolades".  The intentions just seem off especially when it is clear the forum poster has NO intention of bidding on the paper whatsoever!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:07:39 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
by the way.. it seems to me that everyone against outing auctions is a collector looking to save money or have reduced competition

how do you think the sellers feel about it?
your wishing to muzzle the "outers" is anathema to the seller getting a better value.

there are two sides to all arguments on this issue

If a seller cannot properly advertise (or even properly list) an item then they are clearly just lazy or ignorant and do not deserve to "a better value".
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:06:17 PM
But I am not arguing for censorship.  I am arguing for respect -

what about respect for the opposing opinion Chris?
you want me to respect your belief, but clearly you aren't respecting mine.
where is the equality?

and yes, what you're arguing for is indeed censorship.
anytime you want someone to not say something because you disagree, you are indeed attempting to censor that person
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:07:39 PM
If a seller cannot properly advertise (or even properly list) an item then they are clearly just lazy or ignorant and do not deserve to "a better value".

Chris, that is a complete and utter crock, unless you equate a lack of knowledge as ignorant or lazy.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 15, 2011, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 03:46:04 PM
There is freedom of speech (and of posting) for sure but there is also respect for other collectors and forum members.  I side with Matt quite strongly.

I agree with Matt, also.
I don't see any purpose in outing an auction unless the person is posting it to alert others that they have ALREADY proven it bogus.
What I DO find interesting are the discussions FOLLOWING an auction's END.

This is NOT about censorship. This is about common courtesy for the fellow collector.
I've probably PM'd 50% of all APF members when I see something in their realm of collecting -- not just Ebay deals, but many, many to both Bruce and Rich.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
what about respect for the opposing opinion Chris?
you want me to respect your belief, but clearly you aren't respecting mine.
where is the equality?

and yes, what you're arguing for is indeed censorship.
anytime you want someone to not say something because you disagree, you are indeed attempting to censor that person

Rich, I don't care if you respect my beliefs or not - I am just stating them and that I agree with Matt's argument.  

But I AM respecting your beliefs Rich.  When did I tell you or anyone else to not post something or stop you or anyone else from posting something?  I have 0 censorship capabilities on this forum...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:16:01 PM
Chris, that is a complete and utter crock, unless you equate a lack of knowledge as ignorant or lazy.



No it's not - it's quite valid and true in my opinion.  If someone has something to sell it is THEIR responsibility to do the leg work in determining what they have.  How hard is it to google something?  If they do not research their item before selling, they only have themselves to blame should they not get "full, perceived value" (whatever THAT is?).

And we have an entire section devoted to where sellers/dealer/traders can correctly advertise their items should they so choose.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 15, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
what about respect for the opposing opinion Chris?

I do respect opposing opinions Rich... but an opposing opinion would be something like -- it is ok to 'out' all auctions early.  That is not what Mel is arguing.  He is saying it is ok to 'out' an auction early, but only after it has left his price range or area of interest.  I have issues with Mel being inconsistent in his position, not in the position itself.  

And one last time, I have never once called for censorship and I don't think this thread should be censored... I thought it would be clear by stating exactly that in every post I made, but apparently not.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 15, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
I do respect opposing opinions Rich... but an opposing opinion would be something like -- it is ok to 'out' all auctions early.  That is not what Mel is arguing.  He is saying it is ok to 'out' an auction early, but only after it has left his price range or area of interest.  I have issues with Mel being inconsistent in his position, not in the position itself.  

And one last time, I have never once called for censorship and I don't think this thread should be censored... I thought it would be clear by stating exactly that in every post I made, but apparently not.

Yes.  I cannot understand the motivation behind 'outting' an auction when that someone has no intention of bidding on it - unless it comes back to my prestige post argument.

Rich, (I know you stated you don't care either way but know) if I saw something Chandler-esque come up that was clearly flying under the radar and I had no interest in it and thought you might I would use the simple art of the PM to notify you - out of respect and as a kind gesture from one collector another.  Would this also be censorship because I 'censored' it from everyone else?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
All:

At the end of this auction everybody is going to see that the first bidder on the Irish Goldfinger quad put a huge bid - probably at least $3,500 - on this poster. Furthermore, several other "fat wallet" collectors and dealers - most or all of whom have no idea this forum exists - are going to come out at the end and push the price well past $4,000.  All this talk about getting it for a steal or being "robbed" of the opportunity to get it for $1,500 was just a pipe dream.  James Bond posters always get lots of attention on Ebay and this particular seller is selling a boatload of James Bond posters, so this poster realistically was never going to "slip under the radar."

So whatever theoretical arguments - which have been endlessly rehashed here - against discussing pending auctions have no applicability to this particular poster.

By the way in the last four hours, another bidder has entered the arena and pushed the first bidder's bid up to $1,600.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 15, 2011, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
All:

At the end of this auction everybody is going to see that the first bidder on the Irish Goldfinger quad put a huge bid - probably at least $3,500 - on this poster. Furthermore, several other "fat wallet" collectors and dealers - most or all of whom have no idea this forum exists - are going to come out at the end and push the price well past $4,000.  All this talk about getting it for a steal or being "robbed" of the opportunity to get it for $1,500 was just a pipe dream.  James Bond posters always get lots of attention on Ebay and this particular seller is selling a boatload of James Bond posters, so this poster realistically was never going to "slip under the radar."

So whatever theoretical arguments - which have been endlessly rehashed here - against discussing pending auctions have no applicability to this particular poster.

By the way in the last four hours, another bidder has entered the arena and pushed the first bidder's bid up to $1,600.

i think mel has a time machine.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 15, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
I do respect opposing opinions Rich... but an opposing opinion would be something like -- it is ok to 'out' all auctions early.  That is not what Mel is arguing.  He is saying it is ok to 'out' an auction early, but only after it has left his price range or area of interest.  I have issues with Mel being inconsistent in his position, not in the position itself.

I don't think it should be determined by any arbitrary dollar amount.. and yes, sometimes Mel's own statements do contradict previous statements he has made
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:28:04 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:19:40 PM
Rich, I don't care if you respect my beliefs or not - I am just stating them and that I agree with Matt's argument.  
But I AM respecting your beliefs Rich.  When did I tell you or anyone else to not post something or stop you or anyone else from posting something?  I have 0 censorship capabilities on this forum...

Chris, let me rephrase.
the argument for non-outing posture is 50% of an argument.
arguing for the ability to out is the other 50%
anyone wishing to silence the other 50% is not truly respecting the other 50%
to be honest, I think it's a silly concept and a canard for people really meaning "I want to buy the item fucking cheap and anyone who isn't helping me do so is the enemy. STOP TALKING NOW!"
I would think adults would see an "outing" in some cases a help because they themselves might not have known about the item. so sometimes it's a help, sometimes it's a hurt. they cancel each other out and again, if I lose an item I wanted because it was outed.. I don't really care.. I'm not going to get emotional about it. I don't have to win anything more than I currently have to be happy (or in other words, adding to my collection is like putting just a little more icing on a tasty cake, but I didn't need more icing for the cake to be tasty and satisfying) and I'm not going to cry one way or the other no matter what the outcome. But if someone wants to tell me I can't have more icing.. hey, they can go fuck themselves.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:30:55 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2011, 04:54:06 PM
Yes.  I cannot understand the motivation behind 'outting' an auction when that someone has no intention of bidding on it - unless it comes back to my prestige post argument.
Rich, (I know you stated you don't care either way but know) if I saw something Chandler-esque come up that was clearly flying under the radar and I had no interest in it and thought you might I would use the simple art of the PM to notify you - out of respect and as a kind gesture from one collector another.  Would this also be censorship because I 'censored' it from everyone else?

no it isn't censorship because by definition, censorship is something someone else wants. So someone saying "you cannot PM someone" would be the censoring.
Concerning the other part of your statement.. it's very possible that if a ROTJ 1sh came up & I had no interest in bidding but I know that "in general" people on this list might be interested, I'm going to post that, although if I knew specific people interested, I might PM them first. well maybe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
Rich is a dealer? No?

END OF STORY!

No one needs to defend themselves to him ever.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:38:18 PM
Rich is a dealer? No?

END OF STORY!

No one needs to defend themselves to him ever.

grow up
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:38:47 PM
grow up

I never said a good dealer.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:43:03 PM
by the way.. as an addendum to this whole conversation:
I don't know why, but movie poster collectors are the ONLY people I ever hear arguing that people should not post auctions in progress and (for instance) the CGC messaging boards which boast 10s of thousands of forum members (I think it's 60k alone in comics and more in coins) regularly post in-progress auctions going on.

The reason: because these collectors are in general agreement that posting information is what forums are all about and any information posted that helps even one person is something that helps the hobby in general.

In comics, such a perspective is unique as for teh most part, the hobby is made up of many very greedy people whose own self-interest is way more important than any altruistic pursuit
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
I never said a good dealer.

grow up and stop being an ass
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:43:26 PM
grow up and stop being an ass

 eyeroll

Try taking your own advice fat ass.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on October 15, 2011, 05:51:02 PM
c'mon kids, play nice.

You have spent most of the last two days talking about talking about posters.  Think about it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:51:16 PM
you know Zorba.. your posture really just says volumes about you.
facts are that you are angry because I took a position in David L's defense you didn't like, you were acting like a child and I told you so, with a funny picture that had previously been posted in another thread that you had found humor in just fine. But when I used it at you in defense of David, suddenly the same image was a great insult and I became "your enemy".

few things are as childish as that and since then you have continued to show your childishness in continuing posts for your own self satisfaction.. I could care less. If you want to be a child.. go ahead. but if you want to insult me in some way, I'm going to tell you that you're a horse's ass. If you don't want to be called a horse's ass, the solution is stop acting like one and you are.

But I'm sure because you have already shown that you are childish, that you clearly do not understand what I'm saying. Fuck you in any case if that's what. Or act like an adult. It's really your choice.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:53:33 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:51:16 PM
you know Zorba.. your posture really just says volumes about you.



Like yours doesnt ?

Movieposterknowitall of the universe.

 laugh1

Clown.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
All:

At the end of this auction everybody is going to see that the first bidder on the Irish Goldfinger quad put a huge bid - probably at least $3,500 - on this poster. Furthermore, several other "fat wallet" collectors and dealers - most or all of whom have no idea this forum exists - are going to come out at the end and push the price well past $4,000.  All this talk about getting it for a steal or being "robbed" of the opportunity to get it for $1,500 was just a pipe dream.  James Bond posters always get lots of attention on Ebay and this particular seller is selling a boatload of James Bond posters, so this poster realistically was never going to "slip under the radar."

So whatever theoretical arguments - which have been endlessly rehashed here - against discussing pending auctions have no applicability to this particular poster.

By the way in the last four hours, another bidder has entered the arena and pushed the first bidder's bid up to $1,600.


I don't know why you keep linking bid amounts to justifying outing an auction. I've set my next snipe to $2,700. If outing my auction results in me paying an additional $100 or more I would be mad. $100 is still a lot of money, especially if I purchase hoping to resell it again covering my costs. $100, say, spent on a birthday gift for someone would likely really make their day, the amount is still a lot to me.

I have many posters I spent more than $4000 on. Your arbitrary limit is just that, your limit, not others. By defining a limit, you though are acknowledging that it is inconsiderate to be outing them. Like I said out frankies or metropolis poster type items in high profile auctions, where the spotlight is already on them. And if you are going to out an auction, as it can only push up not down the final price, at the same time highlight an auction you are seriously bidding on, for us to see too.

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:43:03 PM
by the way.. as an addendum to this whole conversation:
I don't know why, but movie poster collectors are the ONLY people I ever hear arguing that people should not post auctions in progress and (for instance) the CGC messaging boards which boast 10s of thousands of forum members (I think it's 60k alone in comics and more in coins) regularly post in-progress auctions going on.

The reason: because these collectors are in general agreement that posting information is what forums are all about and any information posted that helps even one person is something that helps the hobby in general.

In comics, such a perspective is unique as for teh most part, the hobby is made up of many very greedy people whose own self-interest is way more important than any altruistic pursuit

These really helpful people I also assume graciously highlight to the community current auction items they themselves have unearthed and are lusting over and bidding on.




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:53:33 PM
Like yours doesnt ?
Movieposterknowitall of the universe.

 laugh1

Clown.

like I said.. fuck you or act like an adult.. it's your choice and it speaks volumes whichever way you want to go.

I can say this for certainty though.. I am and will always be far more important to the hobby than you ever will. If it wasn't for long time dealers like myself. collectors would be nowhere. People with attitudes like yours are a dime-a-dozen
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:57:18 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:56:17 PM
like I said.. fuck you or act like an adult.. it

Very adult answer.

Like I said you aint nothing but a big fat clown  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 15, 2011, 05:55:35 PM
These really helpful people I also assume graciously highlight to the community current auction items they themselves have unearthed and are lusting over and bidding on.

I think you would be surprised Steve. It's impossible to keep anything quiet in comics and so you will indeed see many people post an item and announce they will be bidding.. although such statements usually accompany high ticket items
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 05:57:18 PM
Very adult answer.

Like I said you aint nothing but a big fat clown  ;D

I'll say it again Zorba.. last time.. it can either be fuck you zorba, or you can act like an adult.
your next response of course says which.

child or adult.. which are you?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:00:18 PM

child or adult.. which are you?

Which are you clown?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:01:51 PM
fuck you Zorba
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:01:51 PM
fuck you Zorba

Fuck you clown.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:03:27 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:04:30 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:03:27 PM
LOL

 :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:06:38 PM
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/pumpkin_ass_costume.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
NO!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 06:14:00 PM
Oh, oh, the pumpkin bum has come out... It's getting ugly...

Time for a distraction...

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/ag_lollipop.gif)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
Is that Eliza Dushku?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:15:21 PM
Is that Eliza Dushku?

Yes
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
she's cute Steve.. anyway.. to get back on subject again..

I don't care if anyone on this list posts a link to an auction that I'm interested in.. I don't care! even if it's at just a dollar bid. It's meaningless to me. I'll compete no matter who or how many I'm bidding against until my personal comfort level. If I win, I'm likely to do just what I've done so far: say "cool". If I lose.. I'll say "oh well.. no big deal".. because that's my perspective on it and if Zorba wants to post ad-nauseum every Big Sleep poster that ever comes up for sale, well... who cares? It isn't going to bother me one wit. It's a pragmatic approach. If I'm going to get irritated at something... well, let me just say you should not sit on my car and you should not talk poorly to a girlfriend, my ex-wife, Anna (my assistant) or obviously myself. But if you want to out a poster, here, on this list, for everyone to see... have fun. I do not find such actions unfavorable and as a card carrying member of the ACLU, I will fight against anyone wishing to stifle any such speech no matter what the issue
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 15, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Quote
There is freedom of speech (and of posting) for sure but there is also respect for other collectors and forum members.  I side with Matt quite strongly.
I strongly agree with Matt and Chris on this...

Quote from: brude on October 15, 2011, 04:18:57 PM
I agree with Matt, also.
I don't see any purpose in outing an auction unless the person is posting it to alert others that they have ALREADY proven it bogus.
What I DO find interesting are the discussions FOLLOWING an auction's END.

Why is that a necessity?  I can think of a number of times when questionable auctions have been posted for the benefit of all.  Usually, it ends up as another 'Portal found in a basement' but these are the exact moments that lead to increases in our collective knowledge base.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 15, 2011, 07:57:03 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 15, 2011, 07:40:45 PM
Why is that a necessity?  I can think of a number of times when questionable auctions have been posted for the benefit of all.  Usually, it ends up as another 'Portal found in a basement' but these are the exact moments that lead to increases in our collective knowledge base.

See Harry's BREAKFAST AT TIFFANYS post earlier in this thread.

"All-
As many of you here know... two years ago I scored a Breakfast at Tiffany's 1-sheet on eBay for $305 -- this is a $3K-$5K poster mind you.  It was accurately described (original poster, mounted to linen), but worded in such a way that made it sound like it was likely a bootleg.  Does anyone really think I would have got it for so little if it had been a topic of discussion here?  If nothing else it likely (see those simple, but important qualifiers Mel?) would have inspired others to contact that seller, revealing the poster's authenticity."

Granted, if a collector comes upon an obvious "Portal found in a basement" or other known non-original advertised as an original, no "proof" is necessary.  But in Harry's case, his due diligence paid off and he saved thousands of dollars.  If one of us as a buyer finds a questionable auction, we should do our own homework first.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mahmudf on October 15, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Fuck you clown.

I've really missed this place!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 15, 2011, 08:07:44 PM
I don't think this is a good argument to oppose this thread.  I really don't give a rat's ass if someone's ability to steal a poster is ruined, and I certainly don't feel compelled to protect that person's ability to do so by staying quiet.

Quote from: brude on October 15, 2011, 07:57:03 PM
See Harry's BREAKFAST AT TIFFANYS post earlier in this thread.

"All-
As many of you here know... two years ago I scored a Breakfast at Tiffany's 1-sheet on eBay for $305 -- this is a $3K-$5K poster mind you.  It was accurately described (original poster, mounted to linen), but worded in such a way that made it sound like it was likely a bootleg.  Does anyone really think I would have got it for so little if it had been a topic of discussion here?  If nothing else it likely (see those simple, but important qualifiers Mel?) would have inspired others to contact that seller, revealing the poster's authenticity."

Granted, if a collector comes upon an obvious "Portal found in a basement" or other known non-original advertised as an original, no "proof" is necessary.  But in Harry's case, his due diligence paid off and he saved thousands of dollars.  If one of us as a buyer finds a questionable auction, we should do our own homework first.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 15, 2011, 08:09:09 PM
Yes, that was a particularly inspired debate.

Quote from: mahmudf on October 15, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
I've really missed this place!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 15, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
I really don't see the need to talk about an auction prior to it ending unless there is a question of authenticity. Part of the fun of this hobby is trying to find the great deals. What really is the point? Is it any less interesting to wait 7 days till the auction ends to talk about it. Nothing said while the auction is in progress cant wait to be said when it has ended. There really is no point to draw more attention to something when it is out of ones price range or if it lacks the interest of the person posting about it. It will always be in someones price range and it will always have a place in someones collection. Let the potential buyer have the satisfaction of hoping to get a great deal even if the bids are up a 1/4 of its worth on the first day. Once it is posted and talked about it kinda takes the wind out of the sails of the potential buyer. I think we all have been there at one point or another and when something like that happens, you just kind of say "great now I have no shot of winning it or possibly not getting a good deal on it".

As far as freedom of speech, it has nothing to do with that. No one is asking to never speak of it, just have some respect for other collectors and wait till the auction is over to discuss the OMG's, WTF's or LOL's about it.

Cj


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 15, 2011, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: mahmudf on October 15, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
I've really missed this place!!!

Welcome home Santino.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 15, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 15, 2011, 08:07:44 PM
I don't think this is a good argument to oppose this thread.  I really don't give a rat's ass if someone's ability to steal a poster is ruined, and I certainly don't feel compelled to protect that person's ability to do so by staying quiet.


I'm sure you'd give a "rat's ass" if someone outed a poster you were bidding on and you ended up spending hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of extra dollars because of it.
I don't equate Matt's auction win as "stealing." Other collectors had to have seen that particular auction.  Matt did his homework and he had a victory.

Like I said, the only purpose I see for this thread is outing a bogus auction.
What's the point of outing a legit one?
Just to talk about it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 08:32:04 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 15, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
As far as freedom of speech, it has nothing to do with that. No one is asking to never speak of it,  

a poster being auctioned in a public place doesn't get the same response as the President asking a reporter to not tell the world for 48 hours about a comet going to crash into the Earth

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: brude on October 15, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
I'm sure you'd give a "rat's ass" if someone outed a poster you were bidding on and you ended up spending hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of extra dollars because of it.

I can tell you for a fact that Holiday does not complain about any price he pays for any poster that was or was not outed here or on any other forum and also when he loses a poster, he has as much emotion about it as as he might losing a fiver.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on October 15, 2011, 08:48:58 PM
Quote from: brude on October 15, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
I'm sure you'd give a "rat's ass" if someone outed a poster you were bidding on and you ended up spending hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of extra dollars because of it.
I don't equate Matt's auction win as "stealing." Other collectors had to have seen that particular auction.  Matt did his homework and he had a victory.

Like I said, the only purpose I see for this thread is outing a bogus auction.
What's the point of outing a legit one?
Just to talk about it?

I absolutrly agree that their is no point in posting a legit auction, but there can be plenty of value in discussing truly questionable auctions.  Those, however, are relatively few and far between.  When in doubt, I would tend not to post...
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Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
Quote from: mahmudf on October 15, 2011, 08:04:29 PM
I've really missed this place!!!

Welcome back aboard... enjoy the ride...

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/apf_bus.gif)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
Quote from: archie leach on October 15, 2011, 08:48:58 PM
I absolutrly agree

Me too

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 15, 2011, 09:33:46 PM
Like Rich said, it doesn't bother me at all.  Auctions are competition for the same item, and I always know that there's going to be competition for what's good.  To get pissed off because someone made me pay a fair price is a little absurd.  And, I define a fair price as the final hammer price, because someone was willing to pay it.

If Matt bought a BAT for 350 or whatever, and it's worth 10 times that, that's a steal pure and simple.  I don't begrudge him getting a great buy, for for Christ's sake let's not go so far as to say that we should be silent to ensure that the bargains that are out there always remain bargains. 

One final thing - the mid auction analysis is about sharing information.  There's a higher calling to the thread than just outing bad sellers.  This is a poster forum, and we talk about posters in many many ways.  No one is compelled to post a link to a great auction just for the sake of sharing, but I won't ever begrudge Mel or anyone else posting about an auction that's in progress and which may be a good deal, just because someone may now have to pay more for it.  That's bullshit.



Quote from: brude on October 15, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
I'm sure you'd give a "rat's ass" if someone outed a poster you were bidding on and you ended up spending hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of extra dollars because of it.
I don't equate Matt's auction win as "stealing." Other collectors had to have seen that particular auction.  Matt did his homework and he had a victory.

Like I said, the only purpose I see for this thread is outing a bogus auction.
What's the point of outing a legit one?
Just to talk about it?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 09:34:04 PM
Hey, all you boys and girls who are terrified that the sky is going to fall if we discuss $1,000+ pending auctions.

Ebay currently shows 11,435 US original movie poster auctions (http://www.ebay.com/csc/Originals-United-States-/18829/i.html?LH_PrefLoc=3&LH_Complete=1&LH_Auction=1&_trkparms=65%253A14%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A6&rt=nc&_catref=1&_dmd=2&_ipg=200&_mdo=Entertainment-Memorabilia&_pcats=196%2C45100&_sc=1&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_vc=1&_sop=3&_sc=1) and 1,806 original international movie poster auctions (http://www.ebay.com/csc/Originals-International-/35041/i.html?rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&LH_Complete=1&_catref=1&_dmd=2&_fln=1&_ipg=200&_npmv=3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283&_vc=1) that have been COMPLETED in the last few weeks.

How many of them received bids higher than $1,000?

11 US original and 0 international

11/13241 = .08% of all auctions

So 99.92% of original movie poster auctions on Ebay did not reach $1,000

P.S. Because several of those $1,000+ auctions were high-profile Lucasfilm charity auctions, the percentage of $1,000+ auction normally is probably lower.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 15, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 15, 2011, 09:33:46 PM
One final thing - the mid auction analysis is about sharing information.  There's a higher calling to the thread than just outing bad sellers.  This is a poster forum, and we talk about posters in many many ways.  No one is compelled to post a link to a great auction just for the sake of sharing, but I won't ever begrudge Mel or anyone else posting about an auction that's in progress and which may be a good deal, just because someone may now have to pay more for it.  That's bullshit.

You buy a lot of great stuff. I look forward to you letting us know what you are about to buy. I would like some great Japanese posters, especially bargains.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 15, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
You buy a lot of great stuff. I look forward to you letting us know what you are about to buy. I would like some great Japanese posters, especially bargains.

I'm buying Big Sleep posters, even the ones where Bogey is wearing lipstick. I'm bidding on all of them, so post away.. Hey, you may post one that I missed.. thanks buddy
 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 15, 2011, 09:33:46 PM
I define a fair price as the final hammer price, because someone was willing to pay it.

Holiday.. I don't agree with this.. a fair price is what I WAS WILLING TO PAY
everyone else is overpaying and should just let me win because they're making bad investments
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 15, 2011, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 15, 2011, 09:33:46 PM
Like Rich said, it doesn't bother me at all.  Auctions are competition for the same item, and I always know that there's going to be competition for what's good.  To get pissed off because someone made me pay a fair price is a little absurd.  And, I define a fair price as the final hammer price, because someone was willing to pay it.

If Matt bought a BAT for 350 or whatever, and it's worth 10 times that, that's a steal pure and simple.  I don't begrudge him getting a great buy, for for Christ's sake let's not go so far as to say that we should be silent to ensure that the bargains that are out there always remain bargains. 

One final thing - the mid auction analysis is about sharing information.  There's a higher calling to the thread than just outing bad sellers.  This is a poster forum, and we talk about posters in many many ways.  No one is compelled to post a link to a great auction just for the sake of sharing, but I won't ever begrudge Mel or anyone else posting about an auction that's in progress and which may be a good deal, just because someone may now have to pay more for it.  That's bullshit.


In my book, "a steal" means a "bargain."  In your previous post, you referred to Matt's win as "steal a poster" (as in theft), and remaining quiet about it equated to complicity in some sort of crime. That is how I read your post and that is what I believe you insinuated.

I just found an Ebay "steal" and emailed a member who will pounce on it. I would've PM'd him as I normally do, but he's not on the board at the moment.  If I out this "steal" here, his chances of owning it would diminish considerably.  Especially considering that right now there are 120-plus guests (as opposed to 25 members).  No offense to our guests, but several were also reading this thread.

So, I emailed him. That is how I help fellow collectors.  Call it my "higher calling."

I don't begrudge Mel or anyone else for outing an auction. It is their prerogative. But by doing so, they obviously risk alienation from other members.

One final thing... what could be a "higher calling" for this thread than exposing a fake?  Just talking about an auction in progress? 
How is that sort of "information" more important than protecting our members?


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
I think some members are missing one of the crucial points that lead to this argument/discussion - and that is - posting an auction just for the sake of posting an auction based on some arbitrary criteria that negates that member's interest or ability to bid on it.  It's like saying "fuck you all, I can't win this thing (for whatever reason) and so I am going to make a big theatrical production post about it so I can sulk about my inability to have a chance to win it".  It's like being impotent in many ways (I imagine anyways - I certainly have no personal experience  :-*)

Anyways, as I have said - post any auction you want to but think about this: would it not be far more respectful to other members/collectors to only post auctions you intend on actually trying to win yourself?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 15, 2011, 11:21:28 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2011, 09:34:04 PM
Hey, all you boys and girls who are terrified that the sky is going to fall....

This kind of cavalier disrespect will also lead to further alienation.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 15, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Agree with Cj's post, and to his and Archie's point: this thread should be utilized in regards to questionable auctions in order to help in terms of purchasing with regards to authentication and the like.

I am in favor of closing this thread. Let's start a new thread that is maintained with the effort of aiding possible purchases in terms of helpful and assisting discourse.  The current thread is just useless and flippant in tone in how some simply don't care about causing folks to lose posters/spend more money.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 15, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 15, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Agree with Cj's post, and to his and Archie's point: this thread should be utilized in regards to questionable auctions in order to help in terms of purchasing with regards to authentication and the like.

I am in favor of closing this thread. Let's start a new thread that is maintained with the effort of aiding possible purchases in terms of helpful and assisting discourse.  The current thread is just useless and flippant in tone in how some simply don't care about causing folks to lose posters/spend more money.

I'm sorry but if I was watching an auction for something that I wanted I would not post it in this or any thread for help with authentication.. If not another member then a guest could potentially snatch it away before I had the chance to get any concrete info.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on October 15, 2011, 11:43:49 PM
Please close this thread, Ho.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 11:52:42 PM
here are some homonyms for the day's discussion


different strokes for different folks

it's six of one, half a dozen of the other

some days it's the cherries, other days it's the pits

come ce, come sa

cie la vie

what came first? the chicken or the egg?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2011, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 15, 2011, 11:43:49 PM
Please close this thread, Ho.

Holiday is a Ho

what corner does he stand on?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: 50s on October 15, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
You buy a lot of great stuff. I look forward to you letting us know what you are about to buy. I would like some great Japanese posters, especially bargains.



I buy most of my Japanese material from dealers directly, not from auctions.  The only guy I buy from on auctions on eBay is MoviePosterJapan, whom I highly recommend.  I see the same auctions as you, and you can bid on the same auctions as me.  I hope this helps you out in your search.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:05:01 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
I buy most of my Japanese material from dealers directly, not from auctions.  The only guy I buy from on auctions on eBay is MoviePosterJapan, whom I highly recommend.  I see the same auctions as you, and you can bid on the same auctions as me.  I hope this helps you out in your search.

I'm going to bid on all the posters Holiday bids on to spite him. But because I don't know which ones he needs, I'm just going to place a bid on every poster MoviePosterJapan, whom Holiday highly recommends, has listed.
That will teach you Holiday
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
Rich, what will you do if you end up with a whole bunch of Japanese posters?!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
I went back to the start of this thread as I wanted to see how it all began...funny how things change.


Quote from: Douchebag Cochran on June 04, 2010, 03:06:10 AM
Still best post so far:

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/556/picture11l.png)

I've no problem with the thread and don't think it should be deleted, but I do think that unless you out every good deal you come across (including the ones you keep to yourself now because you want it and you still think you have a fair shot at getting it for a bargain) you should be more selective with what you post here.  Posting something here AFTER it has surpassed your spending limit is hypocritical to me.  You don't want to fuck yourself over first, but when it gets too expensive, you are more than happy to potentially fuck someone else over.

Excuse my french... :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:10:08 AM
I have heard no reason to close this thread, Ben.  What I have heard is discourse, some of it in favor and some of it opposed. The worst possible thing that could happen is to close the thread when a dispute arises over its contents, and then to start a new thread which is moderated.

And Ted, I meant "steal" as in "get a great deal".  I was not inferring a crime of any sort.

Our job is not to "protect" anyone on this board.  Discussing an auction while it is pending is in no way hurting anyone, unless you define hurting as potentially bringing in new bidders which might cause a higher price at the end.  But, even that could be spun for the greater good of the hobby because the more that are bidding, the more awareness there is, and the higher the prices, the better for all of us as a community.  But, that's not what I'm advocated.  

Ironically, I have been chided for censorship in the past, yet now the majority of you want me to censor this particular issue, because it favors you.  Censorship always favors the majority who want it, and there is not a chance in hell that anything will be censored on this board, other than as we have discussed before regarding hateful conduct.  We are all entitled to our say, and we are all entitled to discuss what we want on this board.  If anyone does not like that philosophy, then they need only close their browser.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 16, 2011, 12:10:21 AM
I wouldn`t close the thread. At least it helped to see different positions on the subject. And that is very interesting, the whole debate is.
Outing an auction is not bad or good per se. Outing one you are not going to be bidding in, for lack of interest or funds... that`s where it all gets complicated. I`m with Ted and Chris that the best thing to do in that case is to PM another member who can be interested. It`s not an obligation or absolutely the right thing to do, just good manners IMO -and something I have done a few times. If someone outs it the seller might make more money and the interested member might lose it or pay more for it. The one who outed it does not win or loose, but further alienation from other members is probably happening. Nothing good or bad here. IMO it`s the outer`s call and he/she is probably aware of the consecuences.
Personally, anything more than U$S 200 is out of my reach and I mostly collect shit nobody is interested in (argentinean horror) so I`m the less affected by this thread. Should I be outing auctions because I can`t afford them or I`m not interested? I could, but if someone here might result affected negatively (loosing or paying more) I choose not to do it.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:10:56 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
Rich, what will you do if you end up with a whole bunch of Japanese posters?!

sell them to Holiday
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:11:14 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
Rich, what will you do if you end up with a whole bunch of Japanese posters?!

The fucker will sell them back to me!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:11:34 AM
Funny, we did that at exactly the same time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:12:26 AM
The thread has its purpose...I still think we all should be more mindful of what we choose to post here.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 16, 2011, 12:12:48 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:10:08 AM
Censorship always favors the majority who want it, and there is not a chance in hell that anything will be censored on this board, other than as we have discussed before regarding hateful conduct.  We are all entitled to our say, and we are all entitled to discuss what we want on this board.  If anyone does not like that philosophy, then they need only close their browser.

 thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:13:42 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:11:34 AM
Funny, we did that at exactly the same time.

I beat you too it

 qip
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
By the way, when those Gangs of New York posters were "outed" is had a moment when I was pissed as hell.  But then I realized pretty quickly that I was a fool to think that there were not enough people out there already watching that would cause the prices to go high, and I was prepared for that.  I don't think the thread would have contributed too much to increased prices, if at all.  And I truly believed that the greater good was being served by the discussion.

And Ted, you're right, the highest calling of this thread would be to out fraudulent auctions.  Forgive my zeal!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
By the way, when those Gangs of New York posters were "outed" is had a moment when I was pissed as hell.  But then I realized pretty quickly that I was a fool to think that there were not enough people out there already watching that would cause the prices to go high, and I was prepared for that.  I don't think the thread would have contributed too much to increased prices, if at all.  And I truly believed that the greater good was being served by the discussion.

And Ted, you're right, the highest calling of this thread would be to out fraudulent auctions.  Forgive my zeal!

The high profile auctions are one thing...a buried listing on ebay is another.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:18:15 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:10:56 AM
sell them to Holiday

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 16, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
Excuse my french... :-*

You are excused lady  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:20:27 AM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
I went back to the start of this thread as I wanted to see how it all began...funny how things change.


I've no problem with the thread and don't think it should be deleted, but I do think that unless you out every good deal you come across (including the ones you keep to yourself now because you want it and you still think you have a fair shot at getting it for a bargain) you should be more selective with what you post here.  Posting something here AFTER it has surpassed your spending limit is hypocritical to me.  You don't want to fuck yourself over first, but when it gets too expensive, you are more than happy to potentially fuck someone else over.

Excuse my french... :-*

And a womanly perspective/reasoning (I mean that with the utmost respect Ves) states it succinctly in the end.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:16:33 AM
a buried listing on ebay is another.

Ves.. what constitutes a "buried auction"?

any listing on fleaBay in the correct or near correct category is hardly "buried" as it right there for everyone to see

now if someone has a DTESS 1sh listed in Automotive>Foreign Cars>Mitsubishi>Parts>Brakes.. well to me that would be buried.. I also wouldn't be likely to find it, because if I looked at every category on fleaBay, which I doubt any one person could do anyway, I'd never have time for anything else.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 12:32:28 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 15, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
I'm sorry but if I was watching an auction for something that I wanted I would not post it in this or any thread for help with authentication.. If not another member then a guest could potentially snatch it away before I had the chance to get any concrete info.

Hey Fallen,

You know your absolutely right. However, I was being narrow minded when I only stated authentication purposes in my initial post. If you look at what the title of this topic is - it's OMG's, LOL's, WTF's, whatever

In my opinion here is an example of each and how this section should be utilized:

OMG - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-GREATEST-MOVIE-POSTER-COLLECTION-AVAILABLE-SALE-ANYWHERE-WORLD-/390350510136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae2b41838#ht_1882wt_907 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-GREATEST-MOVIE-POSTER-COLLECTION-AVAILABLE-SALE-ANYWHERE-WORLD-/390350510136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae2b41838#ht_1882wt_907)

WTF - http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-LIGHTBOX-Theater-Sign-Cinema-Advertising-Display-Backlit-New-/400247988232?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30a3a008#ht_6027wt_1329 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOVIE-POSTER-FRAME-LIGHTBOX-Theater-Sign-Cinema-Advertising-Display-Backlit-New-/400247988232?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d30a3a008#ht_6027wt_1329)

LOL - http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRETTY-WOMAN-1SH-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1990-JULIA-ROBERTS-/350007624453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item517e148305#ht_6728wt_1095 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRETTY-WOMAN-1SH-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1990-JULIA-ROBERTS-/350007624453?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item517e148305#ht_6728wt_1095)  Sorry Dave but this is not a direct attack on you.

When someone post auctions out of their price range but is on track to be fair market value or just a little above, I don't think there is a necessity to discuss it till its over. Let the bidders bid with hope. If you wish to spectate, then spectate in silence.

Mel, with your statistical data you presented to everyone, just going back only 3 weeks. If what you posted is true in regards to only 11 auctions hit past the $1000.00 mark then that means you alone announced 18% of the 11 auctions that were out of your price range and you lost interest in. Whether it made a difference or not, I don't know. Now correct me if I'm wrong neither of the auctions you posted were out of the realm of being on track of fair market value. They were out of your price range or you knew you had no chance to begin with and you counted yourself out of the game once they hit that magic number. More than likely, if for example that Gold Finger auction sat at $500.00 all week and it did not jump to what the end result is now in the last few seconds. We would not be reading about it in the Mid Auction analysis page but you probably would have posted it the post auction analysis thread. Chances are you would have held out in hopes of having a good shot at winning the poster.  

It is also not to mention the two Emovieposter auctions you outed recently as well. Mad Max was well below $1000.00 magic number when you outed it.  The Black Swan posters had zero bids and you outed it. I had no idea either auctions were going on until I saw them here. It peeked my interest and made me go check them out and see whats up. A lot of people here assume that all of members here check out Emovies auctions every week. I for one don't and my attention was drawn to those auctions. Who knows how many lurkers got drawn to them too.

Cj
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:35:52 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Ves.. what constitutes a "buried auction"?

any listing on fleaBay in the correct or near correct category is hardly "buried" as it right there for everyone to see

now if someone has a DTESS 1sh listed in Automotive>Foreign Cars>Mitsubishi>Parts>Brakes.. well to me that would be buried.. I also wouldn't be likely to find it, because if I looked at every category on fleaBay, which I doubt any one person could do anyway, I'd never have time for anything else.

Perhaps buried was a poor choice of word...but I think any auction on ebay, or other low profile sites which for one reason or another (listed in wrong section, mis-described, low profile seller...insert any number of things here) falls into the category of perhaps best not to link to it just in case someone else might want it.

You said you need stuff for the Big Sleep right?  Why don't you post links here to the stuff that you are looking at adding to your collection?  Lots of Bogey and Noir fans here who would love the heads up I think.

Holiday's post on the Gangs posters says it all...he was pissed when it was listed, BUT how come HE didn't post links to the auctions here?  There is no doubt those auctions were already getting plenty of attention.  But I am fairly confident that had he found those auctions on ebay, posting links to them here in this thread would have been the last thing on his mind.

Like I said, I have no problem if you choose to out auctions...but out them ALL, not just the ones that you don't want or can no longer afford.
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Post by: brude on October 16, 2011, 12:39:19 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
By the way, when those Gangs of New York posters were "outed" is had a moment when I was pissed as hell.  But then I realized pretty quickly that I was a fool to think that there were not enough people out there already watching that would cause the prices to go high, and I was prepared for that.  I don't think the thread would have contributed too much to increased prices, if at all.  And I truly believed that the greater good was being served by the discussion.

And Ted, you're right, the highest calling of this thread would be to out fraudulent auctions.  Forgive my zeal!

You are forgiven, kimosabe. You were overtaken by the heat of the moment.

                                                                                                    (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Cartoons/Tonto.gif)

And thank you for admitting that an 'outing' on this thread did, in fact, actually piss you off.                               
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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 12:40:02 AM
I have to agree with Holiday and say that I would not close this thread and I agree with what Ves said - Be more mindful of what you post.

Cj
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
Ves.. sadly, there are no Big Sleep auctions I am currently bidding on, although I think Heritage may have something in the next signature auction. I'm the underbidder on everything I lose, so obviously other people have the same interests as I do. But I'd say if there is a Big Sleep auction that comes around, and I need that poster, and it may sell in a price range I'll enjoy.. then I'll win it.. or be the underbidder. Personally, I find it unlikely a Big Sleep auction being chatted about would make it sell for more than what it would already sell for anyway, so someone posting a link may really be doing me a favor, if they reveal something I did not see.

one thing you said in your post I 100% disagree with: fleaBay is very far from a low profile auction site Ves. I'll even bet they get more page views than Bruce does
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:49:18 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
Ves.. sadly, there are no Big Sleep auctions I am currently bidding on, although I think Heritage may have something in the next signature auction. I'm the underbidder on everything I lose, so obviously other people have the same interests as I do. But I'd say if there is a Big Sleep auction that comes around, and I need that poster, and it may sell in a price range I'll enjoy.. then I'll win it.. or be the underbidder. Personally, I find it unlikely a Big Sleep auction being chatted about would make it sell for more than what it would already sell for anyway, so someone posting a link may really be doing me a favor, if they reveal something I did not see.

one thing you said in your post I 100% disagree with: fleaBay is very far from a low profile auction site Ves. I'll even bet they get more page views than Bruce does

But everyone keeps saying fleabay is dead...and no one should list there anymore ;)  Didn't mean to imply that ebay was a low profile site...but yes that is exactly how it came across.

Next time you find a Big Sleep listed which for one reason or another might get less than it's fair share of attention, go ahead and post a link to it here...just in case someone here reading might have missed it.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:57:21 AM
by the way.. some people here seemto think that the reason the Gangs posters were pulled is directly attributed to being spoken about here. While it might be possible that the consignor saw this post, realized he sent Bruce a goldmine and called for the posters back. However, it isn't likely as a "% of possibilities" issue.

really.. how many people total do youthink stop by here every day?
do you think if 100 visitors came by today, that they are all different visitors than were here yesterday?
what is the possibility that person A happened to stop bye on day B just when person C posted a thread that he looked at about posters person A consigned to person D.
Just like in poker, as you add up these factors, it becomes a real longshot that the consignor saw this thread and if they did, they probably are already a knowledgable consignor and only learned what he didn't meant o consign he accidentally did..

you get the idea don't you?
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Post by: Matt on October 16, 2011, 12:59:22 AM
This clown knows the true value of this daybill($20-$60), he is a collector and seller, and his primary objective is to make a large amount of money from some poor punter. nono

Now that's farking greedy and deceitful .

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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:02:28 AM
Now if Im not mistaken Rich. When you consign posters to Bruce, when he receives the posters he sends a detailed email out to the consigner letting him know that he received the posters.

A second email goes out once the posters hit the auction. I don't know how long it was before the consigner sent the posters before they were listed but he had a chance the 1st time he received the confirmation email to say his poster were received to back out of the auction. How long did it sit at auction before he sent an email versus when the email was sent to let him know his posters are in that weeks auction. And how long after was his email sent after they were posted here on the forum and talked about.

I think it is a pretty  good chance that the consigner did not know what he consigned until he read it here.



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Post by: brude on October 16, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:57:21 AM
by the way.. some people here seemto think that the reason the Gangs posters were pulled is directly attributed to being spoken about here. While it might be possible that the consignor saw this post, realized he sent Bruce a goldmine and called for the posters back. However, it isn't likely as a "% of possibilities" issue.

really.. how many people total do youthink stop by here every day?
do you think if 100 visitors came by today, that they are all different visitors than were here yesterday?
what is the possibility that person A happened to stop bye on day B just when person C posted a thread that he looked at about posters person A consigned to person D.
Just like in poker, as you add up these factors, it becomes a real longshot that the consignor saw this thread and if they did, they probably are already a knowledgable consignor and only learned what he didn't meant o consign he accidentally did..

you get the idea don't you?

Funny you should bring this subject up. As many of you know, I (like others here) often post items on Ebay.  And I (as many others) know the power of advertising.  Now, I am not a mathematician, but I did a simple little experiment on a few different occasions.  First, I posted 10-20 one sheets on Ebay.  I let them sit for two days.  They were decent titles, nothing spectacular.  Between the bunch, I picked up 8-10 Ebay watchers in the first 48 hours.  Then, I posted here in the APF FOR SALE section.  I kept my Ebay dashboard open and another browser open on APF.  I watched the number of views on the APF post increase very rapidly and the number of watchers climb steadily on Ebay. Within 2 hours, my watchers doubled. By the end of the day my non-scientific poll saw my Ebay watchers nearly triple.  I tried this with other forums with less significant results.

I do not know whether this forum can differentiate the number of unique visitors during the course of any given day, but my gut feeling is that this forum has a shitload of eyeballs all over it every day.

Just my un-scientific two-cents.  wynk
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Post by: 110x75 on October 16, 2011, 01:30:24 AM
Quote from: brude on October 16, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Just my un-scientific two-cents.

I`ll call you Dr. Brude anyway...

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 01:43:06 AM
Quote from: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:02:28 AM
Now if Im not mistaken Rich. When you consign posters to Bruce, when he receives the posters he sends a detailed email out to the consigner letting him know that he received the posters.


what do you mean by "detailed letter"
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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:44:30 AM
a list of posters that was received
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 01:56:28 AM
Quote from: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:44:30 AM
a list of posters that was received

not my experience
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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 02:21:14 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 01:56:28 AM
not my experience

I have not consigned much but I just went through my emails. You send a detailed list and pack it in the tube. They send back an email confirming they received said posters on that list. I however sent a poster along that was not on my list and in the confirmation email they advised me that the poster was in the tube but was not on the list.

Cj
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
Quote from: Cj on October 16, 2011, 02:21:14 AM
I have not consigned much but I just went through my emails. You send a detailed list and pack it in the tube. They send back an email confirming they received said posters on that list. I however sent a poster along that was not on my list and in the confirmation email they advised me that the poster was in the tube but was not on the list.
Cj

not my experience
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Post by: guest4185 on October 16, 2011, 03:00:18 AM
That Thunderball re-release daybill is a bargain now. The seller had $849 on it.
I did point out to him that it would struggle to get 10% of what he is asking but he didn't seem to care.
In New Zealand someone has listed a B+W, crumpled Clockwork Orange NZ daybill for $800 - it would struggle to get 1% of the asking price.
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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 03:08:49 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
not my experience

PM me your email address I will forward you the email Rich.

Never mind I will just attach  a screenshot here.

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Post by: Matt on October 16, 2011, 03:14:27 AM
Quote from: Rick on October 16, 2011, 03:00:18 AM
That Thunderball re-release daybill is a bargain now. The seller had $849 on it.
I did point out to him that it would struggle to get 10% of what he is asking but he didn't seem to care.

 I've actually brought a poster from his website that was at a good price, but the whole transaction was a slow and painful experience. Never again.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 03:36:50 AM
CJ.. I didn't doubt that was your experience. My experience was different, but I sent him hundreds of items. some people send him 1000s of items or 10s of 1000s and I am certain he does not inventory these large consignments
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Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 03:51:59 AM
I dont understand why it would be any different no matter how many items you send. It would make sense that he would need to inventory all consignments, big or small, so he knows what belongs to who and who gets paid what.

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Post by: marklawd on October 16, 2011, 06:14:56 AM
With reference to the Gangs of New York posters, the consignor presumably saw the amended description or was possibly advised by Bruce beforehand that he was adding an addendum. Of course I don't believe they were sent by him in error.What I don't understand is why he pulled them when he was likely to get a higher price than he was originally expecting because of the revised description. Had I known Holiday or Dale were specifically interested in these Gangs of New York posters I would have pm'd one or both of them and I would not have made this information public.

As a collector, I like the mid-auction analysis thread - thank you Mel for your contributions - as I get to hear about posters I may have missed or I didn't previously know about or I get additional information on a poster I know about already or I get advance warning of high bidding that will make me reconsider my how I might acquire a poster I am interested in. I get (quietly) annoyed if someone highlights a poster auction that might deprive me of getting a bargain but as I said earlier, that is just my bad luck. I don't have any automatic right to a bargain or to deprive a seller of a fair market price for his poster.

Mark


   



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Post by: Bruce on October 16, 2011, 06:47:53 AM
Our first e-mail to consignors (like the one reproduced) solely lists the TYPES of items, not individual titles (the exception would be something like what CJ reproduced, where he enclosed a list and something was in the package that was NOT on their list, or vice versa).

The morning after each set of auctions start, each consignor to that set of auctions gets an e-mail listing exactly what that person has that is in that set of auctions. That way, if you sent, say, a Carrie one-sheet, then if one starts in our auctions and you DON'T get an e-mail from us the next morning (or you DO get an e-mail, but Carrie one-sheet is not on the list), then the one up is NOT yours.

The day after each set of auctions end, all consignors to that set of auctions get a detailed e-mail with a list of what each item they had sold for. At the end of the month after the month in which the items sold (on October 31st we pay for all September items. etc) each consignor who sent us items that sold in September gets payment for those items sent to them, along with an accounting that lists every item and what it sold for and what our percentage was.

So in the case of the GANGS consignor, because he sent no list, he did not get a list of what he sent until the day after the auctions started. Did he really make a mistake in sending them? We will likely never know. But I do know he is a collector who loves rarities, and likely has no plans to sell them.

But since so many thought the reported 20 examples of each was nonsense, there will surely be lots more of these offered soon, now that this thread HAS greatly publicized them, so that is a side benefit of this thread, to let people know what is truly desired, so they are more likely to offer them for sale or auction, whether on my site, on eBay, or elsewhere.

Bruce
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Post by: Bruce on October 16, 2011, 07:23:16 AM
Forgive me for "outing" an auction, but I doubt anyone here is interested in this as a buyer, but many might very much enjoy seeing this item just being it is so incredibly cool (and be sure to look at the added images to see some of the actual article in the mag).

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2337585 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2337585)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/magazine_science_and_mechanics_feb_1934_a_WA02676_L.jpg)

Bruce
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Post by: archie leach on October 16, 2011, 08:59:25 AM
Quote from: Bruce on October 16, 2011, 06:47:53 AM

But since so many thought the reported 20 examples of each was nonsense, there will surely be lots more of these offered soon, now that this thread HAS greatly publicized them, so that is a side benefit of this thread, to let people know what is truly desired, so they are more likely to offer them for sale or auction, whether on my site, on eBay, or elsewhere.

Bruce

For the second time, where did anyone say this?  Care to answer or do you just want to keep up your persecution complex?



And tell Bob he has enough rarities...   :P
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 16, 2011, 12:32:28 AM
More than likely, if for example that Gold Finger auction sat at $500.00 all week and it did not jump to what the end result is now in the last few seconds. We would not be reading about it in the Mid Auction analysis page but you probably would have posted it the post auction analysis thread. Chances are you would have held out in hopes of having a good shot at winning the poster....  

Mad Max was well below $1000.00 magic number when you outed it....  

The Black Swan posters had zero bids and you outed it. I had no idea either auctions were going on until I saw them here....

CJ, of course I deliberately waited until it hit $1,000 and had attracted multiple $1,000 bids.  In addition, the seller is selling several high profile Bond posters, which always attract attention on Ebay.  Plus every serious Bond collector knows this is a rare poster.  Any reasonable person would conclude any element of secrecy was gone by that point. Furthermore, as it turns out, a fat wallet first bidder in the first 24 hours had already placed at least a $1600 opening bid (and probably $3500), so all this talk about getting it at a steal was a fantasy from minute one.  If somebody other than me had "outed" that auction at that point, I would have totally OK with it.

The LucasFilm sales were for charity.  Really, if anything should be "outed," shouldn't it be charity auctions? Scrooge!

The Mad Max was the highest priced item for several days. Let's not pretend that most of the people on this forum don't check the Emovie and Heritage listings.

The Black Swans were sold in the major/mini auction. Let's not pretend those were sub rosa auctions.  Anyway, they sold for relative modest amounts, undercutting your point that these posts materially influence prices.

Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:07:02 AM
Posting something here AFTER it has surpassed your spending limit is hypocritical to me.  You don't want to fuck yourself over first, but when it gets too expensive, you are more than happy to potentially fuck someone else over.

Et tu Ves?  Maybe this will calm you down:

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Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:07:50 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 16, 2011, 12:49:18 AM
But everyone keeps saying fleabay is dead...and no one should list there anymore ;)  Didn't mean to imply that ebay was a low profile site...but yes that is exactly how it came across.

Next time you find a Big Sleep listed which for one reason or another might get less than it's fair share of attention, go ahead and post a link to it here...just in case someone here reading might have missed it.

Yes please do.  Not the I would have any interest of course...
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Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
Quote from: brude on October 16, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Funny you should bring this subject up. As many of you know, I (like others here) often post items on Ebay.  And I (as many others) know the power of advertising.  Now, I am not a mathematician, but I did a simple little experiment on a few different occasions.  First, I posted 10-20 one sheets on Ebay.  I let them sit for two days.  They were decent titles, nothing spectacular.  Between the bunch, I picked up 8-10 Ebay watchers in the first 48 hours.  Then, I posted here in the APF FOR SALE section.  I kept my Ebay dashboard open and another browser open on APF.  I watched the number of views on the APF post increase very rapidly and the number of watchers climb steadily on Ebay. Within 2 hours, my watchers doubled. By the end of the day my non-scientific poll saw my Ebay watchers nearly triple.  I tried this with other forums with less significant results.

I do not know whether this forum can differentiate the number of unique visitors during the course of any given day, but my gut feeling is that this forum has a shitload of eyeballs all over it every day.

Just my un-scientific two-cents.  wynk

And more importantly Ted, you took the responsibility and effort to advertise your listings in the proper places.  I.e. you are clearly not ignorant and lazy ;)
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Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 12:14:17 PM

  Well, Mel does work for the government and lives in D.C., so flip-flopping just comes with the territory.   ;D


Quote from: Douchebag Cochran on June 04, 2010, 03:06:10 AM
Still best post so far:

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Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 12:28:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 12:57:21 AM
by the way.. some people here seemto think that the reason the Gangs posters were pulled is directly attributed to being spoken about here. While it might be possible that the consignor saw this post, realized he sent Bruce a goldmine and called for the posters back. However, it isn't likely as a "% of possibilities" issue.

Just like in poker, as you add up these factors, it becomes a real longshot that the consignor saw this thread and if they did, they probably are already a knowledgable consignor and only learned what he didn't meant o consign he accidentally did..


  Rich your premise is wrong.  Bruce saw the post, and changed it to "less than 20" in the auction description faster than a duck on a june bug.
Then all the consignor had to do was check his own auction description on emovie.  Which is highly likely to almost a certainity.  No one has ever suggested that the consignor saw the APF thread. 


  Brian
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Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 16, 2011, 06:47:53 AM
But since so many thought the reported 20 examples of each was nonsense, there will surely be lots more of these offered soon, now that this thread HAS greatly publicized them, so that is a side benefit of this thread, to let people know what is truly desired, so they are more likely to offer them for sale or auction, whether on my site, on eBay, or elsewhere.

Bruce

  Bruce, where was this ever mentioned?  My post was that you latched onto this "less than 20" like P.T. Barnum when there were little supporting evidence other than Mark's belief in what he was once told. As T posted, the term "very rare" would have been more appropriate.  I challenge you to find one post that said that this poster's supply was not limited.  

 I even posted, that the poster had never been sold by either you nor Heritage which combined constitutes over 750,000 searchable auction results. Odds are this set of posters will not be seen again for several years.  

Brian

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Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 01:00:45 PM
So Mel, why not explain away the post/quote that Ves dug up instead of skirting around the issue with a post that could be interpreted as displaying some level of overt misogyny (or at least chauvinism)?

Would you post a picture of a panda if it was one of the male members who called you out?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:07:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
CJ, of course I deliberately waited until it hit $1,000 and had attracted multiple $1,000 bids.  In addition, the seller is selling several high profile Bond posters, which always attract attention on Ebay.  Plus every serious Bond collector knows this is a rare poster.  Any reasonable person would conclude any element of secrecy was gone by that point. Furthermore, as it turns out, a fat wallet first bidder in the first 24 hours had already placed at least a $1600 opening bid (and probably $3500), so all this talk about getting it at a steal was a fantasy from minute one.  If somebody other than me had "outed" that auction at that point, I would have totally OK with it.

My point is once it was out of your price range and you figured you had no shot in hell - you outed it. If you thought you had a chance you would have never done so. Outing it did exactly what for you? Did you gain anything out of it? Didn't think so!!

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
The LucasFilm sales were for charity.  Really, if anything should be "outed," shouldn't it be charity auctions? Scrooge!

Of course charity auctions should be talked about. In fact I would encourage anyone who comes across a charity auction to start a new topic to try and get as much exposure as possible.

However, I was never talking about the charity auctions - Douchebag! I was talking about the two bond auctions.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
The Mad Max was the highest priced item for several days. Let's not pretend that most of the people on this forum don't check the Emovie and Heritage listings.

It does not matter if it was the highest priced item. It was still only $500.00 and after you outed, whether it was coincidental or not, another bidder joined the fun with in the hour of your post I believe (outpost31). You possibly costed Schan some additional coin... for what...and I say it again..what did you gain from it?

My argument is not whether members and lurk-ers check Emovie and Heritage. What I argue is the frequency they check it. Like I said I dont check it every week and I am sure there are many others who don't either.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
The Black Swans were sold in the major/mini auction. Let's not pretend those were sub rosa auctions.  Anyway, they sold for relative modest amounts, undercutting your point that these posts materially influence prices.


Your right they did sell for a relatively modest amount and it proved you wrong with your prediction. Lets face it Mel, we are talking Black Swan Posters not Black Cat posters.


Honesty Mel, I could really give a shit anymore what gets posted here. So post away with auctions you lose interest in and are out of your price range or you cant afford. Fuck everyone else as it doesn't matter because somehow or someway you will try and justify that any auction you post is high profile or whatever.

Cj
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
Hey Mark,

I really don't think anyone (at least I don't) has a problem with what you posted. There was something to be learned about the posters and it brought on some good conversation that a lot of people benefited from. It is just too bad they got pulled what ever the reason was.

Cj
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 01:00:45 PM
Would you post a picture of a panda if it was one of the male members who called you out?

  Mel probably would have chosen this one for a male member.


                       (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/images/090212-burned-koala-photo_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 16, 2011, 01:07:44 PM
However, I was never talking about the charity auctions - Douchebag! I was talking about the two bond auctions....

Honesty Mel, I could really give a shit anymore what gets posted here. So post away with auctions you lose interest in and are out of your price range or you cant afford. Fuck everyone else as it doesn't matter because somehow or someway you will try and justify that any auction you post is high profile or whatever.

Cj

Some people here have totally lost self-control in this argument and it's really out of character.  We're opponents in this argument, not blood enemies, contrary to the way you all are acting.

I haven't "flip-flopped" positions either. Ves picked out one quote from a very long argument that went on for some time.  I said way back then that I believed $1,000 and "common sense" were good yardsticks for discussing pending auctions.

By and large, this whole argument is simply a reprise of the earlier arguments. 

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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 16, 2011, 02:22:21 PM
Mel Your absolutely right. I did lose self control and it is out of character for me to name call. I do apologize for calling you a douchebag.

Cj
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 16, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
Some people here have totally lost self-control in this argument and it's really out of character.  We're opponents in this argument, not blood enemies, contrary to the way you all are acting.

I haven't "flip-flopped" positions either. Ves picked out one quote from a very long argument that went on for some time.  I said way back then that I believed $1,000 and "common sense" were good yardsticks for discussing pending auctions.

By and large, this whole argument is simply a reprise of the earlier arguments. 

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The whole $1000 number is a complete crock.  Either you do it or you don't.  To put assign arbitrary value and use that number to justify something as being now formally or informally "ok" is moronic.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 02:30:45 PM
Mel, your attempts to justify 'outing' posters after they have left your price range or area of interest have clearly fallen on deaf ears.  In fact, you aren't even arguing for the right to 'out' posters, you are trying to defend your decision to be a hypocrite -- you agree that there are rules, but you think that it is ok for you to decide when they are enforced or not.  And you aren't even responding to anyone's comments, you are just slapping up some sales results, plugging your ears, and saying "I'm not hurting anyone!" over and over.  I'm really quite dumbfounded. 


Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
We're opponents in this argument, not blood enemies, contrary to the way you all are acting.


I frankly find it quite laughable that you are now trying to play the victim and take the high road!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 16, 2011, 02:23:22 PM

The whole $1000 number is a complete crock.  Either you do it or you don't.  To put assign arbitrary value and use that number to justify something as being now formally or informally "ok" is moronic.

Do you people not understand that ad hominem attacks are logically meaningless, the weakest form of argument, and totally inappropriate?

I said that $1,000 is a good yardstick.  It's not an absolute rule.  You may disagree, but it's a totally reasonable - hardly moronic - position.

I think this forum should be about sharing and engaging in spirited and fun discussion.  Discussing pending auctions should be part of it, with reasonable precaution (such as a $1,000 rule) for protecting true bargains.  Reasonable people can disagree on it.

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 02:30:45 PM
Mel, your attempts to justify 'outing' posters after they have left your price range or area of interest have clearly fallen on deaf ears.

No, we're having the same argument we had at the beginning of this thread.  The same "deaf ear" people who wanted to ban discussion of pending auctions have - once again - vociferously repeated the same arguments they made - and lost - a year ago. Now they've lost again and are making a big fuss about it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 16, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Ok, well i think the rule should be $14,531,482.  Is anyone else with me?  If there are enough supporters, then perhaps this number can replace $1000 as the point where it is ok.   
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on October 16, 2011, 02:43:48 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 16, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Ok, well i think the rule should be $14,531,482.  Is anyone else with me?  If there are enough supporters, then perhaps this number can replace $1000 as the point where it is ok.   

Signed.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on October 16, 2011, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
I said that $1,000 is a good yardstick.  It's not an absolute rule.  You may disagree, but it's a totally reasonable - hardly moronic - position.

I think this forum should be about sharing and engaging in spirited and fun discussion.  Discussing pending auctions should be part of it, with reasonable precaution (such as a $1,000 rule) for protecting true bargains.  Reasonable people can disagree on it.

No, we're having the same argument we had at the beginning of this thread.  The same "deaf ear" people who wanted to ban discussion of pending auctions have - once again - vociferously repeated the same arguments they made - and lost - a year ago. Now they've lost again and are making a big fuss about it.

I am really trying hard to follow your logic, Mel.
You seem to contradict yourself within a single post.
Is $1000 your arbitrary rule or is it not?
If so, then why did you out MAD MAX -- just last week -- when it was only halfway to your established threshold?
If you can't follow your own rules, then you shouldn't be playing this game.

And, as far as "winning or losing" this argument, you might feel like you won when in fact you are turning more and more members away from you.
That sounds like a losing position to me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 16, 2011, 02:41:19 PM
Ok, well i think the rule should be $14,531,482.  Is anyone else with me?  If there are enough supporters, then perhaps this number can replace $1000 as the point where it is ok.   

Schan, you've missed the point.  There are three possibilities:

(1) We NEVER discuss pending auctions.

(2) We come up with a middle position.

(3) We have NO restrictions on discussions.

Holiday has already said (3) is the rule.  As a courtesy to others, I'd like to develop some kind of reasonable middle position.

But the point is that it is probably going to be impossible to come up with a middle position that everyone will agree with.  In the end, it's going to require some subjective determination by the poster and somebody else is going to vociferously disagree with that determination.

So why don't you forthrightly admit that your position is (1) and you will never change your mind about it?  Or at least try to formulate a workable middle position.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
I said that $1,000 is a good yardstick.

So you think it is ok for you to decide when the rules change.  That is by definition hypocritical and that is exactly what we are talking about, it is not an ad hominem attack.  Care to respond that that charge instead of continuing to "misdirect", "playing the victim", using "straw-man arguments", holding up "past data like it can factually predict the future", or any of the weak and inappropriate forms of argument you are trying to employ?

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
Do you people not understand that ad hominem attacks are logically meaningless, the weakest form of argument, and totally inappropriate?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 16, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
The only guy I buy from on auctions on eBay is MoviePosterJapan, whom I highly recommend.  I see the same auctions as you, and you can bid on the same auctions as me. 

And he'll kick your ass too; just might as well not bid...  Did you guys see the Black Swan B1 not sell at $280 opening bid?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 03:02:39 PM
As a courtesy to others, I'd like to develop some kind of reasonable middle position.

I'm pretty sure we are all arguing that we should be courteous to everyone regardless of their area of interest or collecting budget.  You have decided that you can pick and choose who you are courteous to.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
I follow Holiday's rules.
which are no rules
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
I'm pretty sure we are all arguing that we should be courteous to everyone regardless of their area of interest or collecting budget.  You have decided that you can pick and choose who you are courteous to.

This is getting closer to the heart of the argument.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
I follow Holiday's rules.
which are no rules


You must live in Las Vegas or something?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Wow! I missed a lot in two days...  I see both sides here. 

If Mel was truly outing a poster because it was out of his price range then that is a bit reckless even if it passes the $1000 invisible-bar.  However, if we really think about it (and I can see that this may have been the reason for the post), what are the chances that the bond poster in question or future bond posters are not already known by the folks who are going to bid from the forum; especially at the $1000 level?  If you are willing to spend $1000+ on a bond, most likely you have your saved searches telling you everyday that this one or others are up.  If you are a Bond guy, willing to spend 1K and you haven't figured out saved searches then your pretty much an idiot, or new.  Just admit it; every forum member who would bid, already knew about this one. And if your just bidding on a whim after finding out, then that just provides a good reason to restrict certain threads to "members only".  Is this possible Holiday?

In regards to the Mad Max, didn't Bruce post it in his thread?  Plus if you are a buyer of Bruce's then you have made a want list and if you are going to drop $500 on a Mad Max then you most likely have this title on your want list.  If you don't, again you're either an idiot, rich, or new. If fact I would say that Mel's post may have actually lowered the ending price.  Once I saw Mel's post I didn't even bother to watch it to the end. 

I can see others acting the same way on the Bond.  "Its already at $1,000 after 3 days?  I'm out"  Even though their bid may be near $2,000, they realized that the "Fat-Wallets" are already aware of it and they bail... They may check back to only confirm there assumptions.

With all this said, I once outed a group of daybill auctions from the same seller including a few bond daybills.  I even presumed I was ruining a good deal for someone and posed the question of breaking the poster "bro-code".  But being the newbie, the first thing I was told was that the post should have been in this thread.  Chris even comforted me indicating the seller would appreciate the publicity and then toyed with me asking why I would even have an Aussie want list.  It was all in good fun...  I was not hacked to death.   

Quote from: Charlie on July 04, 2011, 07:05:04 PM
Am I breaking the poster Bro-Code by notifying people of these type of deals?  I already have one of these; its is a super nice poster and its only $18 right now...  He is also selling other nice posters; there is a Bond and others all pretty cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320719760204&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2579.msg39480.html#msg39480 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2579.msg39480.html#msg39480)

Isn't some of the in-fighting over the past few days just a bit, what's the word Chris used, "derisory".  Come on guys...  I know it sucks that an auction you were going to bid on gets outed, but did you really think you were going to get it for $1500 with all the vultures that are out there?  Yes, I know the "you don't know for sure" argument and you would be right.  But the stars would have to align and elephants fly to really get a steal on something as high profile as the Bond. 
 
However, with my experiences on the forum to-date, I think that there should be a certain courtesy before outing an auction:

1. PM anyone first who you think would want the posters (Mel, T, Ted, and Matias have done this for me; Thanks!)
2. Instead of outing a particular auction maybe post "I have seen a killer Bond auction on the Ebay; PM me if you don't know about it."
3. Be the second guy to out it so you can always have plausible deniability.

Else, just start collecting Stargate.  Nobody outs that title....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 04:15:26 PM


Isn't some of the in-fighting over the past few days just a bit, what's the word Chris used, "derisory".  Come on guys...  I know it sucks that an auction you were going to bid on gets outed, but did you really think you were going to get it for $1500 with all the vultures that are out there?  Yes, I know the "you don't know for sure" argument and you would be right.  But the stars would have to align and elephants fly to really get a steal on something as high profile as the Bond. 
 
However, with my experiences on the forum to-date, I think that there should be a certain courtesy before outing an auction:

1. PM anyone first who you think would want the posters (Mel, T, Ted, and Matias have done this for me; Thanks!)
2. Instead of outing a particular auction maybe post "I have seen a killer Bond auction on the Ebay; PM me if you don't know about it."
3. Be the second guy to out it so you can always have plausible deniability.


Charlie, the issue is NOT that people thought they were going to get the Bond poster or any other poster for peanuts - most of the collectors that frequent here are much more realistic and experienced than that - it really all comes down to a disagreement (basically) on the motivation of an "outer", respect for fellow collectors and a lack of trully justified responses to many pointed comments and questions.

Oh and most venereal word imaginable - censorship! ;) 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
I'm pretty sure we are all arguing that we should be courteous to everyone regardless of their area of interest or collecting budget.  You have decided that you can pick and choose who you are courteous to.

So I'll now pose this to you Charlie... because of your preconceived notions about "Bond collectors", you believe it is ok to 'out' those auctions but not others?  Like Mel you are trying to qualify the hypocrisy in your position with statements and language like the following:

Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
what are the chances that the bond poster in question or future bond posters are not already known by the folks who are going to bid from the forum; especially at the $1000 level?
Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Just admit it; every forum member who would bid, already knew about this one.
Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Yes, I know the "you don't know for sure" argument and you would be right. But the stars would have to align and elephants fly to really get a steal on something as high profile as the Bond.

Regardless of what we think will happen, at the end of the day no one really knows. It is disingenuous for you or Mel to state as fact that you do know, and then try to use that to back up your inconsistent rules.  Treat everyone fairly is all I ask.  Either out all auctions, even for stuff you are bidding on... or wait until they are over discuss.  Otherwise you are a hypocrite an no amount of qualifications will change that.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
You must live in Las Vegas or something?  ;)

yes.. Holiday's rules are the rules out here too
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 04:46:30 PM
  Making this thread members only seems like a great idea.  There is always two to three times more guests logged in than members.  Why should they be rewarded with great detective work?  What do you think Holiday?


  Brian



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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2011, 04:52:02 PM
Personally, making this thread "members only" changes very little.  There is no discussion between members and non-members.  These are issues between existing members and so making the thread "members only" serves little purpose.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 04:56:25 PM
* I also understand they're going to adopt his rules in Muskogee Oklahoma and Skobee Montana
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 16, 2011, 04:58:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0&feature=related)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 04:46:30 PM
 Making this thread members only seems like a great idea.  There is always two to three times more guests logged in than members.  Why should they be rewarded with great detective work?  What do you think Holiday?

Brian.. I actually think such a thing is wrong-headed.

the #1 fact of this forum is that it was created as a vehicle to share information
some information shared leaves some people disappointed
less information shared is a dis-service to the world poster collecting community

is it all about "me" or is it about "us (meaning everyone known or unknown)"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 04:46:03 PM
So I'll now pose this to you Charlie... because of your preconceived notions about "Bond collectors", you believe it is ok to 'out' those auctions but not others?  Like Mel you are trying to qualify the hypocrisy in your position with statements and language like the following:


I don't have any preconceived notions about "bond collectors".  Are you sure you got the right post?  Are we having a rational discussion?  You may have skewed my post to a defensive posture regarding Mel's post.  Mel can take care of himself.  It could be any poster not just "Bond" posters; but I am starting to form notions about "Bond Collectors".  Sheesh!  I even discussed the Mad Max.  Read the whole post slowly, perhaps twice. I even mentioned a Kwai poster.  mesmrized

I have no chips in the game; I was just attempting to provide a rational analysis.

Quote
Regardless of what we think will happen, at the end of the day no one really knows. It is disingenuous for you or Mel to state as fact that you do know, and then try to use that to back up your inconsistent rules.  Treat everyone fairly is all I ask.  Either out all auctions, even for stuff you are bidding on... or wait until they are over discuss.  Otherwise you are a hypocrite an no amount of qualifications will change that.

Yep that is what I said, no one really knows.  It obvious to you that we would be hypocrites, how did you arrive at that? I have never outed an auction in this thread. You do know how much work it would be to out all the auctions I come across.  Thousands a week; be realistic here.  But if you really think about it, the general trend takes you to Mel's conclusion regarding the expected ending price of the poster.  My point was that if you didn't already know about it then you have a weak game anyway.  I haven't been in this dog fight and haven't presented any rules other than the few courtesies for thought. Again, I don't know who you think your responding to, but like I said I haven't actually outed any auctions in this thread other than the one I mentioned that should be in this thread (I searched to confirm this).  I have no dog in this fight; I am just commenting.   In fact I stated I could easily see both sides of the argument.  And didn't really pick one in absolute terms; more a discussion of both sides the suckiness of what Mel did but perhaps why he did it and shouldn't be hung for it...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 05:45:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Brian.. I actually think such a thing is wrong-headed.

the #1 fact of this forum is that it was created as a vehicle to share information
some information shared leaves some people disappointed
less information shared is a dis-service to the world poster collecting community

is it all about "me" or is it about "us (meaning everyone known or unknown)"


  Easy tiger......I was only referring to this mid-auction thread.  The rest of the forum would be open.  Why should guests be able to view this thread to check on potential bargains without contributing to the group at large.  There is not a single shred of this "vital information" that could not be disclosed in a post auction thread.

  Brian


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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Charlie, the issue is NOT that people thought they were going to get the Bond poster or any other poster for peanuts - most of the collectors that frequent here are much more realistic and experienced than that - it really all comes down to a disagreement (basically) on the motivation of an "outer", respect for fellow collectors and a lack of trully justified responses to many pointed comments and questions.

Oh and most venereal word imaginable - censorship! ;) 


Oh, Ok.  Seeing it from a different angle.  Yeah, why the hell would you out a poster auctions unless you thought it would help the members of the forum?  I guess it really comes down to "Does this post help forum members?".  Else, live sideline auction commentary may not be the best thing for those bidding...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 16, 2011, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 06:14:48 PM

Oh, Ok.  Seeing it from a different angle.  Yeah, why the hell would you out a poster auctions unless you thought it would help the members of the forum?  I guess it really comes down to "Does this post help forum members?".  Else, live sideline auction commentary may not be the best thing for those bidding...




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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 16, 2011, 05:41:41 PM
It obvious to you that we would be hypocrites, how did you arrive at that? I have never outed an auction in this thread. You do know how much work it would be to out all the auctions I come across.  Thousands a week; be realistic here.  But if you really think about it, the general trend takes you to Mel's conclusion regarding the expected ending price of the poster.  My point was that if you didn't already know about it then you have a weak game anyway.  I haven't been in this dog fight and haven't presented any rules other than the few courtesies for thought. Again, I don't know who you think your responding to, but like I said I haven't actually outed any auctions in this thread other than the one I mentioned that should be in this thread (I searched to confirm this).  I have no dog in this fight; I am just commenting.   In fact I stated I could easily see both sides of the argument.  And didn't really pick one in absolute terms; more a discussion of both sides the suckiness of what Mel did but perhaps why he did it and shouldn't be hung for it...

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, I was calling Mel hypocritical as he doesn't seem to be in favor of 'outing' posters that he is bidding on, but that once it crosses his personal price or interest threshold, then it would be ok.  That is hypocritical by definition.  It sounded like you were trying to use the same circumspect reasoning to justify 'outing' Bond posters (high price bracket, widely collected, 'etc...), but presumably not other posters that you yourself collect.  If that is not what you were trying to communicate, I'm sorry if I took it the wrong way.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 12:15:45 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 16, 2011, 06:28:15 PM
I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, I was calling Mel hypocritical as he doesn't seem to be in favor of 'outing' posters that he is bidding on, but that once it crosses his personal price or interest threshold, then it would be ok.  That is hypocritical by definition.  It sounded like you were trying to use the same circumspect reasoning to justify 'outing' Bond posters (high price bracket, widely collected, 'etc...), but presumably not other posters that you yourself collect.  If that is not what you were trying to communicate, I'm sorry if I took it the wrong way.

No problem, I can see why you might draw this conclusion. I had just picked up the "seed" of the conversation being about a Bond poster. I was thinking that the argument was about outing a poster to inform members that the auction itself was ongoing.  I was under the assumption that Mel was attempting to inform forum members about an auction they might want to bid on; in a helpful way.  But now that I look back at the conversation, the gripe was more about his explanation of why he outed the auction.  So your analysis is correct regarding potential hypocrisy.  

In fact this thread is really stupid; 1) Why would I want to create competition. 2) Why would I take the time to out an auction of a poster I don't collect to the general public or forum. 3) If I knew a member was into certain posters and I found an auction, I would just PM them.

If it was a authentication issue, there is a thread for that.  If it was a value issue, there is a thread for that. If it is a dealer, there is a thread for that.  

Just some written thought process here:

So, why does this thread exist again?  My only thought would be to let people know of some nice ongoing auctions, regardless if I am bidding on something in the auction or not.  But, why would I want to create competition?  So then the only reason or logical reason for this thread to exist, is to out auctions that you are not going to bid on anyway...  It may be hypocrisy, but that only makes sense and is the only reason for the thread's existence.  So, pretty much, any posts in this thread are hypocritical by the very nature of the thread itself.

I haven't (in this thread) nor will I be outing any auctions soon. And this hypocritical nature was probably why I felt like I was breaking poster "bro-code" the last time I outed a nice set of auctions; because, I already had the poster and wasn't bidding.  But the interesting thing is, I was actually just wanting forum members to know that there was a very nice daybill auction going...  Now that I know more members, these "outings" take the form of PMs; which is probably the best way to handle situations like this regardless of the current price level...

Else, I'm am not going to tell people about auctions I plan on bidding on (so I might be a hypocrite); and it isn't right to make everyone aware of auctions just because you don't have a dog in the fight. 
But how do you help members out if you don't know what everyone collects; and therefore can't PM them when say an awesome daybill auction is going?  Or a guy is selling a stack of bond posters?  Or even for me; Roland Emmerich is selling his personal set of Stargate concept printer's proofs?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 12:25:30 AM
is this the correct thread to let people know that my rolled auction 2 auctions from now will have a different Harry Potter international style that no one seems to have sold before.. or is there a thread called "Advanced Screenings of Advanced Posters Soon To Be Auctioned That You Wish Nobody Knew About"?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 12:25:30 AM
is this the correct thread to let people know that my rolled auction 2 auctions from now will have a different Harry Potter international style that no one seems to have sold before.. or is there a thread called "Advanced Screenings of Advanced Posters Soon To Be Auctioned That You Wish Nobody Knew About"?

That would be "I'm Making Another Dealer Thread Disguised As A Place for Potential Hypocritical Posts for Non-Harry Potter Fans". ASPSTBATYWNKA - Just checking  (I feel an acronym will soon be used)

Your a funny guy Rich...  I need to meet you some day.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 17, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 16, 2011, 12:04:09 PM

Et tu Ves?  Maybe this will calm you down:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Cutepanda.png)

Your attitude goes alot towards explaining why you are single...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 17, 2011, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2011, 04:52:02 PM
Personally, making this thread "members only" changes very little.  There is no discussion between members and non-members.  These are issues between existing members and so making the thread "members only" serves little purpose.  

Agree.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 12:49:46 AM
Quote from: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 12:38:25 AM
Your a funny guy Rich...  I need to meet you some day.  :)

 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 12:58:25 AM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 17, 2011, 12:43:57 AM
Agree.

Yes, you guys are probably right.  But the argument was sound; we have to assume forum members are knowledgeable enough to know how to find the stuff they want.  So any outing would just benefit the idiots and the guests.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on October 17, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Wow, you guys don't mess around with people outing auctions!  :o  Does it irritate, offend, or piss some people off to out auctions?  YES.  That is why I don't do it (except one thread where I mentioned a woman on Ebay had a bunch of video posters that were selling for next to nothing, and she now has more negatives than anyone I've ever seen on Ebay - my apologies if anyone got screwed from that "outing").  

As we all know, there are items that are not noticed by the masses or even another person interested in that item, as I'm sure many of us have paid significantly less on various things that have sold for much higher prices elsewhere, and saving money is generally a good thing, unless someone is getting blatantly ripped off.  I think most people are "jumping the gun" on this topic, since I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that most people complaining and/or reading this here have not been watching an auction they were hoping to get a good deal on outed at this joint, and a lot of people are expressing their concern that they do not want an auction or item they are watching to be outed in the future.

"So any outing would just benefit the idiots and the guests."  Charlie, that is a bold statement.  A perfect example for the falseness of this statement is for one item I literally checked on a daily basis for well over a year, and did not see for sale, then I quit looking for a few months, and one day out of the blue I decided to look and voila, there it was.  An item that there are probably extremely few copies of in existence, and I was lucky enough to score it for the opening bid.  There are other examples also, and I'll just leave it at that.  With 7 day auctions, if people don't check within that time frame, then they of course miss the auction.  Same for "B.I.N." items.  One could sell a few minutes after being listed, and if someone is not checking numerous times per day, he/she will not win an item like that.  It's a harsh statement to call someone an "idiot" for not seeing an item listed, and if guests don't want to join in on the conversation here, that is their prerogative and they should not be treated like outsiders because they choose to not participate in the talk.  And they outnumber members many times over, so that's another reason to not demean them, and I'm not saying that you were demeaning them, Charlie, I'm just saying that I've seen a few comments about guests and they were not exactly in a positive context.

This joint is about FUN, so I can see why Mel and others would mention some current auctions, as some are comical, shocking, etc.  I'm not gonna act like someone peed in my Cheerios, because no one has, but I will say I would appreciate it if no one does at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on October 17, 2011, 09:09:06 AM
A picture says a thousand words.


(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/227073_10150196210784391_537204390_6871592_4556567_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 09:28:24 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 17, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
"So any outing would just benefit the idiots and the guests."  Charlie, that is a bold statement.  

Your right this is a harsh statement.  I apologize if I offended anyone. My point was that if there is a poster you really want; one that you would buy or bid on as soon as it is available, you should already be using the tools such as saved searches and want lists to let you know when its up. 

 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 17, 2011, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 12:25:30 AM
is this the correct thread to let people know that my rolled auction 2 auctions from now will have a different Harry Potter international style that no one seems to have sold before.. or is there a thread called "Advanced Screenings of Advanced Posters Soon To Be Auctioned That You Wish Nobody Knew About"?

  That would be a Holiday call.  But, it seems that dealers already have several avenues to advertise their auctions without using the "mid-auction" thread.

  Of course, I think your just poking fun at everyone, which is cool.   ;D  And since I was the underbidder to that stinking Rattler on the last Int. HP, I am sure that my interest will be piqued again.


  Brian
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on October 17, 2011, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 12:25:30 AM
is this the correct thread to let people know that my rolled auction 2 auctions from now will have a different Harry Potter international style that no one seems to have sold before.. or is there a thread called "Advanced Screenings of Advanced Posters Soon To Be Auctioned That You Wish Nobody Knew About"?

Now come on Rich. If I sell something, I want people to link, talk, post pictures whatever to get more hits and interest. If I am buying something, I dont want anyone to know about it. These posts some have made of "I dont care who knows about what I am bidding on" makes no since unless A) the poster is something not many people have interest in or B) you have a lot of money and don't care what anything costs you.

If the poster is in demand and it gets posted in this thread, it raises the sale price, period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 17, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on October 17, 2011, 11:08:09 AM
Now come on Rich. If I sell something, I want people to link, talk, post pictures whatever to get more hits and interest. If I am buying something, I dont want anyone to know about it. These posts some have made of "I dont care who knows about what I am bidding on" makes no since unless A) the poster is something not many people have interest in or B) you have a lot of money and don't care what anything costs you.

If the poster is in demand and it gets posted in this thread, it raises the sale price, period. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

 

I agree with Dale BUT .. There's no way to prove if this thread really raises the final sale price higher than it would have gotten on its own .. granted being in here it minimizes the odds of it going for well below average .. But we can never know for sure if posting these auctions in here will actually make the final price higher than it would have been had we not seen it .. Not every bidder is on APF and Im sure there are a lot more bidders that do their own automated searches for highly desirable pieces on the off chance they can catch one on a good day.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 05:26:55 PM
Dale.. it isn't that I disagree with some of what you say, but the object of forums is to share.
Of course, I don't think I've posted a pending auction to this thread maybe once, but the right to post is what I fight for and concerning the subsequent post from fallenangel, I totally agree that any results from this thread are completely intangible unless someone were to say flatly "I only knew about this item because I saw it posted in this thread, and had I not seen it, it would have sold for far less than I paid"

by the way, in case it has been forgotten to older members and is unknown to newer members:
this thread was started as a direct result of a member (Carson Cockman) wanting to censor such posts, which both Thierry and Holiday thought was onerous and I have an analogy from a different medium that speaks to exactly this kind of stuff.
In poker, there is always someone who raises before the flop (in holdem or omaha). many people don't like that kind of action and complain. But the facts are, the person is allowed to raise at any time as long as it's his turn and the rules do not prohibit such action (and no such action is or will ever be prohibited).

yu gotta go with teh flow..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 17, 2011, 09:09:06 AM
A picture says a thousand words.

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/227073_10150196210784391_537204390_6871592_4556567_n.jpg)

I'm not worried, although I do have some chafing
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on October 17, 2011, 05:50:36 PM
The simple fact is, is that people will not highlight an auction THEY are seriously interest in winning. They know there is no gain, only potential for loss.  Yet they are happy for this to happen to some other poor chaps. LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!

If they truly had the interest of the poster community in mind, they should be highlighting their own auctions, helping the poster community understand why their particular item is worth obtaining. Who knows, I might learn something and bid on it myself.

eg Holiday, please tell me about your next prized soon to be acquisition. I would love to gain an insight into the reasoning for purchasing that specific mid auction item. Providing dealer names does not educate me about specific acquisitions. This is a mid auction thread not a dealer thread.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
from my ebay watchlist

have at it

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/watchlist_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 06:27:17 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
from my ebay watchlist

have at it

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/watchlist_01.jpg)

That Hong Kong Nights is a beauty Rich.

Can we expect a weekly update from you from now on?

Cj
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 17, 2011, 05:50:36 PM
eg Holiday, please tell me about your next prized soon to be acquisition. I would love to gain an insight into the reasoning for purchasing that specific mid auction item. Providing dealer names does not educate me about specific acquisitions. This is a mid auction thread not a dealer thread.

Better yet it would be great if Holiday could post a list of his best contacts in Japan!  Or maybe in the spirit of sharing T will finally put me in touch with his sources for reasonably-priced, rare french posters?   ;)

One more time for the cheap seats... only like 1 or 2 people have suggested closing this thread (and I'm not even sure how serious they were vs. just floating an option).  I'm not in favor of censorship... just consistency in actions and respect for other members.  Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
In the end, all the commotion was a bunch of nonsense.  As I predicted several times, the first bidder - who bid one day before I mentioned it on APF - put an enormous $4,500 bid on it, so you had to bid $4,550 just to get into the game.  Furthermore, all the seller's Bond posters have boatloads of watchers and bids. So there never a chance this was ever going to be a "bargain."  

Of course, my "fans" will claim my prognostication was "lucky."  Not so.  Under the circumstances, it was very clear early on in the game it was going to be fought over and go to fair market value. To wit:

(1) There were three bidders
(2) There were two $1,000+ bids
(3) One of the $1,000+ bids was from a 10,000+ feedback bidder (probably a dealer)
(4) Bond posters always get lots of attention on Ebay
(5) This particular seller is selling several high value Bond posters at once, making it extremely unlikely that all or one of them would escape notice.
(6) Most serious Bond collectors will instantly recognize the Irish quad and know its true value.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Gold-7.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Bids-1.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Watched.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 07:20:42 PM
I don't think closing it is necessary. Just being mindful of what is being posted would do the trick. I think if everyone sticks to the OMG's, LOL's, and WTF's of auctions and everyone could agree on what that actually entails then this thread would be a fun thread to keep checking out and leaving open.

As far as Holiday, i cant speak for him but I don't think he cares to share or out any auctions. I believe his stance is more so with not censoring what anyone has to say/post as long as it does not cross the line in terms of racial/ethnic slurs and nudity.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 17, 2011, 06:27:17 PM
That Hong Kong Nights is a beauty Rich.
Can we expect a weekly update from you from now on?

I can't answer that.. the only thing I can predict in the future is that I will be auctioning something next week and the week after and I may or may not bid on something in the same time period.
Due to time constraints, other endeavors may get sidetracked and/or derailed including my ability to add to this or any other thread.

I may also find that I have more one liners to add before any other constructive use can be made of the forum
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 07:24:16 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior!  ;D

Harry.. one man's reason is another man's dogma.

wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on October 17, 2011, 12:43:37 AM
Your attitude goes alot towards explaining why you are single...

Sorry Ves, my post was a little flippant and could be perceived as sexist, but 'twas not my intent.

As far as being single, you could be right but also (1) constantly being broke from blowing all my money on movie posters, (2) hanging the risque/porn posters on my walls, and (3) spending too much time hanging out with the APF homies are also factors.

But hope springs eternal!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
In the end, all the commotion was a bunch of nonsense.

This is too funny... I just got an eBay reminder on this poster and noticed that it was over $5K.  I was going come here to post that Mel would be returning soon to remind us that he was right all along... Looks like he beat me to it!  

Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 07:55:12 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster

there are two sides to a fence
there are equally two sides to principles
the only problem with any particular principle is when one side attempts to enforce it's principles on the other side.
Libertarians would be all over an argument like this one and Republicans would be against any regulation at all of the subject, similarly, the ACLU would fight against gagging any speech. So everyone should be on the side of "open tent".

Of course, I do understand that to some "free speech" really just means "... as long as I'm the guy making the speech....."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 08:08:45 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  

HC, it's too bad you dogmatically refuse to recognize that reasonable people could disagree about (1) whether pending auctions should ever be discussed or (2) whether this particular pending Irish quad auction should have been discussed. 

As far as "principle," Holiday nailed it:

Our job is not to "protect" anyone on this board.  Discussing an auction while it is pending is in no way hurting anyone, unless you define hurting as potentially bringing in new bidders which might cause a higher price at the end.  But, even that could be spun for the greater good of the hobby because the more that are bidding, the more awareness there is, and the higher the prices, the better for all of us as a community.  But, that's not what I'm advocated. 

Ironically, I have been chided for censorship in the past, yet now the majority of you want me to censor this particular issue, because it favors you.  Censorship always favors the majority who want it, and there is not a chance in hell that anything will be censored on this board, other than as we have discussed before regarding hateful conduct.  We are all entitled to our say, and we are all entitled to discuss what we want on this board.  If anyone does not like that philosophy, then they need only close their browser.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 07:55:12 PM
there are two sides to a fence
there are equally two sides to principles
the only problem with any particular principle is when one side attempts to enforce it's principles on the other side.
Libertarians would be all over an argument like this one and Republicans would be against any regulation at all of the subject, similarly, the ACLU would fight against gagging any speech. So everyone should be on the side of "open tent".

Of course, I do understand that to some "free speech" really just means "... as long as I'm the guy making the speech....."

I don't have a problem with Mel's principles... only that he has publicly stated that they change depending on if he is interested in and/or can afford a particular poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 08:12:07 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 08:08:45 PM
HC, it's too bad you dogmatically refuse to recognize that reasonable people could disagree about (1) whether pending auctions should ever be discussed or (2) whether this particular pending Irish quad auction should have been discussed. 

No Mel, over and and over again I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your actions. You have avoided that subject in every response.  I'm done.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
I don't have a problem with Mel's principles... only that he has publicly stated that they change depending on if he is interested in and/or can afford a particular poster.

that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExJGqyHN80
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExJGqyHN80

lol Rich!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

More my style....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Chris.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
With 30 minutes to go, not too far from Christies auction this summer:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/30min.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Christies.jpg)

Off topic, but proving that movie poster auctions are minor league stuff for the big boys:

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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 08:54:40 PM
Mel.. I don't really know why you would post a link to an original  Goldfinger Quad being auction on ebay on this list before the auction was over.

do you really think everyone would know about an original  Goldfinger Quad being auctioned if you didn't post it here for everyone to see? especially on that infant sire ebay that nobody looks at ever
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
This is too funny... I just got an eBay reminder on this poster and noticed that it was over $5K.  I was going come here to post that Mel would be returning soon to remind us that he was right all along... Looks like he beat me to it!  

Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  

Matt, I was just going to post the same thing!  I guess 15 posts stating what the real issue was didn't get passed the hypocrisy filters.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on October 17, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
Ok, repeat after me...  This is the mid AUCTION analysis thread.

By the way, though, I have only one person I know in Japan, and many of you already know him.  I have been buying EVERY b1 that he comes across for many years now, and I have paid him a fixed price for each one no matter what it is.  That said, I've bought some posters that I would not have otherwise gotten, but I have gotten some posters that no one else has, because of that relationship.

Relationships don't spring up overnight people.  They take years to develop, and consistency, and loyalty.  To this day, even the people who know my Japanese friend know that  I get first dibs on all b1's that he comes across.  That's because he never has to worry about being left holding the bag on something I don't want.

Food for thought as we talk about all this cloak and dagger bullshit.

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Better yet it would be great if Holiday could post a list of his best contacts in Japan!  Or maybe in the spirit of sharing T will finally put me in touch with his sources for reasonably-priced, rare french posters?   ;)

One more time for the cheap seats... only like 1 or 2 people have suggested closing this thread (and I'm not even sure how serious they were vs. just floating an option).  I'm not in favor of censorship... just consistency in actions and respect for other members.  Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:05:04 PM
I guess 15 posts stating what the real issue was didn't get passed [past] the hypocrisy filters.

The "real issue" is that you guys intend to unleash hell on anybody who disagrees with you on this issue until you get your way.

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 13, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
  • At the same time, I agree with Holiday/T's decision not to censor the forum -- so Mel is definitely within his rights as a forum member to post these mid-auction items -- However, it is also my right to disagree the practice each and every time he does it, even if we've had the conversation before.



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
Apparently you missed my 'wink' Holiday!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
The "real issue" is that you guys intend to unleash hell on anybody who disagrees with you on this issue until you get your way.

and while I don't exactly use the same sharp language that Mel does in this case, I hope you guys realize that he's right
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 09:28:55 PM
wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:26:57 PM
The "real issue" is that you guys intend to unleash hell on anybody who disagrees with you on this issue until you get your way.


So what is "our way" Mel?  Let's take it step-by-step and maybe you'll finally trully begin to understand.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 09:28:37 PM
and while I don't exactly use the same sharp language that Mel does in this case, I hope you guys realize that he's right

Anyone that you agree with Rich simply cannot be "right"  :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
It's nothing more than classic mob tactics.  

Holiday has repeatedly said that there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions.  This was obviously a multi-thousand dollar, high-profile auction perfectly appropriate for public discussion - especially once it blew up to $1,000 with multiple fat wallet bidders -  yet I've been called a "moron," (by a moderator!) a "reckless idiot," "douchebag" (by another moderator, who later apologized) and told that I was "deliberate fucking" other APF members out of spite.  

I've gotten into a few hot arguments with a couple of charming members, but I've never used that kind of vitriol for an issue like this.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
It's nothing more than classic mob tactics.  

Holiday has repeatedly said that there are no restrictions on discussing pending auction.  This was obviously a multi-thousand dollar, high-profile auction perfectly appropriate for public discussion - especially once it blew up to $1,000 with multiple fat wallet bidders -  yet I've been called a "moron," (by a moderator!) a "reckless idiot," "douchebag" (by another moderator, who later apologized) and told that I was "deliberate fucking" other APF members out of spite.  

I agree with Mel again, much to the chagrin of Chris
 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 09:47:48 PM
I agree with Mel again, much to the chagrin of Chris
 sm1

He must have dropped a load in one of your most recent auctions?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
It's nothing more than classic mob tactics.  

Holiday has repeatedly said that there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions.  This was obviously a multi-thousand dollar, high-profile auction perfectly appropriate for public discussion - especially once it blew up to $1,000 with multiple fat wallet bidders -  yet I've been called a "moron," (by a moderator!) a "reckless idiot," "douchebag" (by another moderator, who later apologized) and told that I was "deliberate fucking" other APF members out of spite.  

I've gotten into a few hot arguments with a couple of charming members, but I've never used that kind of vitriol for an issue like this.

You are still circling Mel.  How much fuel is left? 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
He must have dropped a load in one of your most recent auctions?

not at all or for months

I actually agree with him and  I DISAGREE WITH YOU!!
 deadhorse
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 17, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
Let`s not start all over fellas...
Everyone take a deep breath, relax, and keep guiltlessly outing every shit you`re not planning to bid on.
No one`s gonna make you stop doing it... except maybe Chris... He`s from Canada and we all know canadians are poster terrorists  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:16:28 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
He must have dropped a load in one of your most recent auctions?

Hey Chris, I really mean this in the nicest possible way :)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Yousuck.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 09:53:50 PM
He must have dropped a load in one of your most recent auctions?

oh.. find out for sure.. spend $10,000 with me during teh next few weeks and see how much I agree with you then
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on October 17, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
Let`s not start all over fellas...
Everyone take a deep breath, relax, and keep guiltlessly outing every shit you`re not planning to bid on.
No one`s gonna make you stop doing it... except maybe Chris... He`s from Canada and we all know canadians are poster terrorists  ;D

I am hoping it can soon get to the point where Rich responds to every post in this thread with his caps lock on.  Because nothing fights against censorship like CAPS!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 07:08:47 PM
Or maybe in the spirit of sharing T will finally put me in touch with his sources for reasonably-priced, rare french posters?   ;)

My God, I can't believe you guys are still chitchatting over this!!!  What's the big deal?  You don't like this thread, don't look at it.  I have never publicly shared mid-auctions I'm not interested in and never will.  If I do, I send an email to friends and that's the end of it.  But that's me.  If Mel wants to do it, it is his God given right.  And it's also your right to ignore it, as I do.  Holiday and I will not censor it, nor will we make this a member only thread.  This is not MPF, people.

And Matt... nice try, buddy.  Tell me what you're looking for, and I'll try to find it for you.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:19:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 10:16:46 PM
oh.. find out for sure.. spend $10,000 with me during teh next few weeks and see how much I agree with you then

Not until you start typing "the" correctly (it's been years Rich!)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 17, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:17:59 PM
I am hoping it can soon get to the point where Rich responds to every post in this thread with his caps lock on.  Because nothing fights against censorship like CAPS!


laugh1

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 10:12:13 PM
not at all or for months

I actually agree with him and  I DISAGREE WITH YOU!!
 deadhorse

I'm asking this in all seriousness Rich... do you disagree with us calling Mel a hypocrite (meaning you don't think he is being one)?  Or do you disagree with us for giving him shit for it?  Or something else entirely?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 10:18:58 PM
If Mel wants to do it, it is his God given right.  

T

So which one of you is God - you or Holiday?

Never thought God could be a Frenchman!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 17, 2011, 10:22:30 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:16:28 PM
Hey Chris, I really mean this in the nicest possible way :)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Yousuck.jpg)

Blood!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:21:18 PM
So which one of you is God - you or Holiday?

Never thought God could be a Frenchman!

That's because you don't think that much.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
I'm asking this in all seriousness Rich... do you disagree with us calling Mel a hypocrite (meaning you don't think he is being one)?  Or do you disagree with us for giving him shit for it?  Or something else entirely?

RICH JUST REVELS IN ANARCHY (HYPOCRISY INCLUDED OF COURSE).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on October 17, 2011, 10:28:43 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
It's nothing more than classic mob tactics.  

Holiday has repeatedly said that there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions.  This was obviously a multi-thousand dollar, high-profile auction perfectly appropriate for public discussion - especially once it blew up to $1,000 with multiple fat wallet bidders -  yet I've been called a "moron," (by a moderator!) a "reckless idiot," "douchebag" (by another moderator, who later apologized) and told that I was "deliberate fucking" other APF members out of spite.  

I've gotten into a few hot arguments with a couple of charming members, but I've never used that kind of vitriol for an issue like this.


  I totally agree with Mel on this.  He generally argues like those fancy french people who slap each other with gloves in those old movies.  But, Mel has done nothing to deserve such personal attacks.  I wish Brude was here to find a gif of fancy french men slapping each other with gloves prior to fighting.   ;D


  Brian

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
RICH JUST REVELS IN ANARCHY (HYPOCRISY INCLUDED OF COURSE).

Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
I'm asking this in all seriousness Rich... do you disagree with us calling Mel a hypocrite (meaning you don't think he is being one)?  Or do you disagree with us for giving him shit for it?  Or something else entirely?

You guys should be featured on "Profiles in Courage."  This is not about me.  It's about your holy crusade to end all discussion of pending auctions. Why don't you take on our forum duo-lords who have repeatedly said there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions?  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:34:53 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:30:47 PM
You guys should be featured on "Profiles in Courage."  This is not about me.  It's about your holy crusade to end all discussion of pending auctions. Why don't you take on our forum duo-lords who have repeatedly said there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions?  

Mel you still have no clue. 

Even if this were the issue, I still need to know which one of the two is the uber-lord?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 17, 2011, 10:28:43 PM
I totally agree with Mel on this.  He generally argues like those fancy french people who slap each other with gloves in those old movies.  

If I ever get down to Atlanta, expect this, pal

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/ScreenShot2011-10-17at103600PM.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:39:38 PM
See the thing about those fancy, fighting frenchies is that after all the pussy-ass glove slapping, the issue had to be resolved by way of a duel - someone had to go!

So, yeah, not so pussyriffic afterall...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 10:40:38 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
It's nothing more than classic mob tactics.  

Holiday has repeatedly said that there are no restrictions on discussing pending auctions.  This was obviously a multi-thousand dollar, high-profile auction perfectly appropriate for public discussion - especially once it blew up to $1,000 with multiple fat wallet bidders -  yet I've been called a "moron," (by a moderator!) a "reckless idiot," "douchebag" (by another moderator, who later apologized) and told that I was "deliberate fucking" other APF members out of spite.  

I've gotten into a few hot arguments with a couple of charming members, but I've never used that kind of vitriol for an issue like this.

 According to the forum "rules" that keep being brought up in regards to your right, you do not feel the need to withhold any mid auction talk regardless if it is disrespectful to another forum member who could be potential bidder and regardless of how other forum members feel about the issue.

As everyone knows, I called you a douchebag and I did apologize because that is not who I am. I have a right to call you a douchebag just like you have the right to out any auction you please or call me a douche bag back if you wished. I admit my actions may be more cruel but it is my right. I quickly apologized for what I said because I quickly saw that I should have been more respectful regardless of your views and your stance on the topic. Just maybe you can be more respectful to other members view and maybe be open minded to how other members may feel.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:43:56 PM
R-E-S-P-E-C-T?  On a poster forum?!  You are fucking crazy!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 10:45:02 PM
The reality of this whole issue is that it will not change one bit. A majority of the people feel that it is not the right thing to do and admit that they would never do it themselves.  Mel is allowed to post what he wants regardless of how other members may feel. Honestly who gives a shit anymore.

Lets get on with it and move on.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 10:53:06 PM
Who's the douche?

And WTF is this nonsense talk about fancy french people who slap each other with gloves.  I'd slap all of you people, and not with gloves.

And there is no über lord, Chris.  Holiday is the brains, and I'm the _____ ?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 10:53:06 PM
Who's the douche?

And WTF is this nonsense talk about fancy french people who slap each other with gloves.  I'd slap all of you people, and not with gloves.

And there is no über lord, Chris.  Holiday is the brains, and I'm the _____ ?

T

That's disappointing.  If history is any example, polytheism just doesn't seem to be the way to go.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 17, 2011, 10:45:02 PM
The reality of this whole issue is that it will not change one bit. A majority of the people feel that it is not the right thing to do and admit that they would never do it themselves.  Mel is allowed to post what he wants regardless of how other members may feel. Honestly who gives a shit anymore.

Yeah, well another "reality" is that the "majority" has debased itself by engaging in gutter fighting and starting a civil war over a settled issue.  The end result is permanent alienation and a less interesting forum in the future because no one will discuss pending auctions lest the majority "tar and feather" them, as the "majority" has done to me in the last few days.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
I'm asking this in all seriousness Rich... do you disagree with us calling Mel a hypocrite (meaning you don't think he is being one)?  Or do you disagree with us for giving him shit for it?  Or something else entirely?

what I agreed with had nothing to do with hypocsrisy
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
 The end result is permanent alienation and a less interesting forum in the future because no one will discuss pending auctions lest the majority "tar and feather" them, as the "majority" has done to me in the last few days.

I was already alienated (do you guys remember that I was kidnapped by aliens and the probe thing?) so that isn't a problem. but I will continue to discuss anything I wish to discuss here whether Chris, Matt, Harry, Ted, unknown, known unknown or unknown known unknown agree with me. I didn't come here to be brown-nosed by any of you. The alien probe ended all brown nosing
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
a less interesting forum in the future because no one will discuss pending auctions

There are plenty of other things to talk about on this forum than just pending auctions.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
Yeah, well another "reality" is that the "majority" has debased itself by engaging in gutter fighting and starting a civil war over a settled issue.  The end result is permanent alienation and a less interesting forum in the future because no one will discuss pending auctions lest the majority "tar and feather" them, as the "majority" has done to me in the last few days.

Mel, call this number: 1-800-484-2846
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 17, 2011, 11:08:00 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 11:15:35 PM
Mel, I don't like your avatar.  Clowns freak me out, and your chicken/clown is fucking annoying.  Get rid of it or I'll get rid of you!

T (who forgot to take his meds).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:20:43 PM
I think it's better for some of you to call 1-800-277-4653
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 17, 2011, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:20:43 PM
I think it's better for some of you to call 1-800-277-4653

 :) too
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:20:43 PM
I think it's better for some of you to call 1-800-277-4653

And this is for you Rich  ;Dhttp://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Dickhead/71739 (http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Dickhead/71739)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 17, 2011, 11:24:25 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 17, 2011, 11:05:18 PM
There are plenty of other things to talk about on this forum than just pending auctions.

Yeah did anybody see the Unholy Wife insert I picked up today?  I was pretty proud of that sucker.  I'm getting tire of posting new stuff; at least give me a "nice piece of shit, Charlie" or something...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cj on October 17, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
Nice piece of shit Charlie..no really nice pick up Charlie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 17, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
And this is for you Rich  ;Dhttp://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Dickhead/71739 (http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Am-A-Dickhead/71739)

I thought I was there already at APF???
I mean,, where did you guys think you were??
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2011, 11:34:31 PM
anyway.. I hope to have a pic of that Harry Potter & the Sorceror's Stone  international poster, regular style photographed Weds.. I'll post it here so that 100,000,000 people will see it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on October 17, 2011, 11:39:30 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 11:15:35 PM
Clowns freak me out



I forgot, it is that time of year!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tb7fG3hYlcM/Tpz0suWZdYI/AAAAAAAAGPU/L4S8ZPJXk80/s800/IMG_0768.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 17, 2011, 11:39:30 PM
I forgot, it is that time of year!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tb7fG3hYlcM/Tpz0suWZdYI/AAAAAAAAGPU/L4S8ZPJXk80/s800/IMG_0768.jpg)

That clown from Poltergeist freaked me out for years.

This is why I've always hated the circus.  Show me all the horror movies in the world, show me Cannibal Holocaust or Texas Chainsaw, but don't show me a clown!!!

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 18, 2011, 12:02:35 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
That clown from Poltergeist freaked me out for years.

This is why I've always hated the circus.  Show me all the horror movies in the world, show me Cannibal Holocaust or Texas Chainsaw, but don't show me a clown!!!

T

I know what you mean regarding certain genres of horror. I grew up Catholic; still haven't made it through the Exorcist after about 6 attempts... 
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Post by: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on October 17, 2011, 11:39:30 PM
I forgot, it is that time of year!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tb7fG3hYlcM/Tpz0suWZdYI/AAAAAAAAGPU/L4S8ZPJXk80/s800/IMG_0768.jpg)

Hey Schan, is that your wife?  She's lovely.  Good for you, dude.

And fuck the clown!
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Post by: kovacs01 on October 18, 2011, 12:28:47 AM
Thats Genie!
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 02:08:15 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 17, 2011, 10:58:05 PM
Yeah, well another "reality" is that the "majority" has debased itself by engaging in gutter fighting and starting a civil war over a settled issue.  The end result is permanent alienation and a less interesting forum in the future because no one will discuss pending auctions lest the majority "tar and feather" them, as the "majority" has done to me in the last few days.


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/tarAndFeather2.jpg)


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Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 18, 2011, 06:27:48 AM
I've been away for a few days and came back to read this, all about the Goldfinger quad; well, actually, more about the principle of it in relation to Mel's behaviour.
On a personal note, I'm not getting into a petty argument with that guy, but I do wish to say the following:

I am in agreement with Matt and Chris.
Whilst there are members here who don't know what Mel is like, there are a fair few who have experienced his devilish attitude & general unwillingness to accept his own misgivings.
We all must accept these unfortunate traits that make up his person, including his highly hypocritical side - If there was a poster HE wanted then HE would NEVER bring it to OUR attention until the auction had FINISHED.

I don't think anyone wants so-called censorship; it's more about reciprocal respect, which is something Mel visibly (through the written word) lacks in large quantities.

All this makes me laugh though, because he is his own worst enemy; he just never seems to learn; he just never seems to get it.
He has done, and does, good things for this hobby pertaining to this forum - I think everyone can see that - but he continually causes problems for himself, often crying wolf when he is pulled up about something.

If there is one thing Mel should learn, it should be to hold his own tongue more.
Other than that, it's all a real shame, to be honest.
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 06:37:29 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 17, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
That clown from Poltergeist freaked me out for years.

This is why I've always hated the circus.  Show me all the horror movies in the world, show me Cannibal Holocaust or Texas Chainsaw, but don't show me a clown!!!

T

T, How could you not love this adorable fella. He is sooo happy to see you. It would look great looking at you in your man cave!

(3 sht)

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/2181_ShrineCircus_1_750.jpg)

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/2181_ShrineCircus_11_750.jpg)

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Post by: theartofmovieposters on October 18, 2011, 07:05:32 AM
I LOVE CLOWNS....I want it!
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Post by: archie leach on October 18, 2011, 08:06:01 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-RHINESTONE-STALLONE-PARTON-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/160667273384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25688408a8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-RHINESTONE-STALLONE-PARTON-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/160667273384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25688408a8)

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Post by: Charlie on October 18, 2011, 08:14:10 AM
Quote from: archie leach on October 18, 2011, 08:06:01 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-RHINESTONE-STALLONE-PARTON-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/160667273384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25688408a8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-RHINESTONE-STALLONE-PARTON-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/160667273384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25688408a8)



Asshole! 

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/rhinestone.jpg)

 laugh1
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Post by: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: 50s on October 18, 2011, 06:37:29 AM
T, How could you not love this adorable fella. He is sooo happy to see you. It would look great looking at you in your man cave!




This is one of the ugliest posters I have ever seen.  Sorry Steve.  How you could let this monster inside your house is a mystery to me.  Send it to Ves immediately.  It can never be far enough from me.

T
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Post by: guest8 on October 18, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: bondposters.com on October 18, 2011, 06:27:48 AM

I don't think anyone wants so-called censorship; it's more about reciprocal respect, which is something Mel visibly (through the written word) lacks in large quantities.

For not wanting to get into a petty argument with Mel that was one huge paragragh dedicated to slamming him .. Maybe we are being a little passive aggressive?? The one sentence above is the only thing that was aimed directly at the issue at hand and even in that you had to take a snipe directly at Mel.

Quote from: bondposters.com on October 18, 2011, 06:27:48 AM
We all must accept these unfortunate traits that make up his person, including his highly hypocritical side - If there was a poster HE wanted then HE would NEVER bring it to OUR attention until the auction had FINISHED.

As for this part .. I think this is true for everyone .. Its not the Mel is a hypocrite .. NO ONE would post an auction where they felt they had a good chance at sniping a deal especially its its a desirable poster .. Mel has set his standards of posting links to auctions that have a high price range and once they pass a certain price point its fairly obvious that the right people already know about the auction. So I dont see much wrong with this thread .. Not that Im interested in most of the posters listed in here at all .. I just like seeing the pretty pictures.
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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 11:53:18 AM
Hey, T...they're coming to get you....
I hope you're working the homefront door this Halloween, I'm sending some friends to your house...

                                                                                 (http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/59/9j/jc/cary-clown.gif)
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Post by: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
I own a gun. 

I am ready for war (yes, even a Frenchman can be ready for war!)
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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
I own a gun. 

I am ready for war (yes, even a Frenchman can be ready for war!)

Note to self: abandon plan to terrorize T this Halloween...  wynk
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Post by: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 18, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
Not that Im interested in most of the posters listed in here at all .. I just like seeing the pretty pictures.

Dave most brilliantly summed up my train of thought.
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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 12:15:01 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:11:02 PM
I own a gun. 

I am ready for war (yes, even a Frenchman can be ready for war!)

  Would you not have to slap the clown with a dueling glove first?


         (http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1238793919078&id=2464342d15082201eb0e08dd0e6632e4&url=http%3a%2f%2fphotos-f.ak.facebook.com%2fphotos-ak-sf2p%2fv43%2f209%2f6485958317%2fapp_3_6485958317_1166.gif)
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Post by: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: brude on October 18, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
Note to self: abandon plan to terrorize T this Halloween...  wynk

In all seriousness, though, if awaken in the middle of the night, I think I could very well blow the head off a man dressed as a clown.

My wife has the same phobia, except hers is of Alex from Clockwork Orange.  Someone showed her the movie when she was 6 and I believe she would react negatively to a man dressed in white with a cane.  Note to all: She's a black belt of Krav Maga.

T
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Post by: paul waines on October 18, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: brude on October 18, 2011, 12:12:53 PM
Note to self: abandon plan to terrorize T this Halloween...  wynk

Spoken like a true Frenchman Ted.... ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 18, 2011, 02:56:18 PM
Bond Quad just listed on fleaBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THUNDERBALL-Original-James-Bond-Poster-30x40-Rare-British-Quad-1965-Sean-Connery-/150679094012?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152c82fc
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Post by: agentprovocateur on October 18, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
Nice! Haven't seen that one before... is it still a bit steep price wise tho!?
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Post by: Charlie on October 18, 2011, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 18, 2011, 02:56:18 PM
Bond Quad just listed on fleaBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THUNDERBALL-Original-James-Bond-Poster-30x40-Rare-British-Quad-1965-Sean-Connery-/150679094012?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152c82fc

Why the hell would you charge $10 to ship a $20K poster?  Just include the shipping.  How cheap.  Did you see all the A. B. C. for $99, what's that about.  Looks like he just uploaded it from a spreadsheet.  Oh wait its list 250 items for free day; oops got to list some records tonight...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 18, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
yeah it's rare.. and at about 2-3x value. maybe 4-5 times
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Post by: Cj on October 18, 2011, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 18, 2011, 02:56:18 PM
Bond Quad just listed on fleaBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THUNDERBALL-Original-James-Bond-Poster-30x40-Rare-British-Quad-1965-Sean-Connery-/150679094012?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152c82fc

What is with this sellers other listings...I don't understand why he does not accept returns...what if I don't like RR and want a refund..he should at least post a picture of it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RR-/150679119348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152ce5f4#ht_500wt_1156 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RR-/150679119348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152ce5f4#ht_500wt_1156)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 18, 2011, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Cj on October 18, 2011, 04:45:42 PM
What is with this sellers other listings...I don't understand why he does not accept returns...what if I don't like RR and want a refund..he should at least post a picture of it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RR-/150679119348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152ce5f4#ht_500wt_1156 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RR-/150679119348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23152ce5f4#ht_500wt_1156)

it's a free listing day, so he loads up on listings of nothing & edits them during the week to reflect the item.
kinda stupid.. lots of fleaBayers do it
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Post by: Cj on October 18, 2011, 05:48:54 PM
That is stupid. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by: archie leach on October 18, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 18, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
As for this part .. I think this is true for everyone .. Its not the Mel is a hypocrite .. NO ONE would post an auction where they felt they had a good chance at sniping a deal especially its its a desirable poster .. Mel has set his standards of posting links to auctions that have a high price range and once they pass a certain price point its fairly obvious that the right people already know about the auction. So I dont see much wrong with this thread ...

Churchill: “Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?”

Socialite: “My goodness, Mr. Churchill… Well, I suppose… we would have to discuss terms, of course…”

Churchill: “Would you sleep with me for five pounds?”

Socialite: “Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!”

Churchill: “Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.”

Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 18, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
Not that Im interested in most of the posters listed in here at all .. I just like seeing the pretty pictures.
Quote from: eatbrie on October 18, 2011, 12:13:17 PM
Dave most brilliantly summed up my train of thought.

Which wouldn't change, in any way, if it was done after the finish of the auctions.  The only difference is in the motivation of the poster -  Sales/advertising in the case of Bruce/Rich/etc. or self-aggrandizement in Mel's case versus taliking about an interesting auction with pretty pictures... 

Also, T, a Frenchman with a gun is more a danger to himself than to others... just sayin'...  :D
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Post by: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 09:18:58 PM
I'm surprised Mel didn't "out" this auction an hour before it closed when it stood at $63, because with his psychic ability he surely knew that it was going to end over his threshold of $1,000!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/anthony_adverse_NZ03296_L.jpg)

In fact it went to $1,400!  What happened, Mel? Imagine how much higher it might have gone had you outed it!

 laugh1 laugh1 jawdrop jawdrop woohoo woohoo

Bruce
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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 09:18:58 PM
I'm surprised Mel didn't "out" this auction an hour before it closed when it stood at $63, because with his psychic ability he surely knew that it was going to end over his threshold of $1,000!

In fact it went to $1,400!  What happened, Mel? Imagine how much higher it might have gone had you outed it!

 laugh1 laugh1 jawdrop jawdrop woohoo woohoo

Bruce


  Bruce, I am surprised that you do not take the high road in a thread that is basically another avenue for you to draw attention to your auctions.  Mel has been a good customer and consignor to your company.  Mocking Mel's position is hardly a constructive post.

  If you want to brag about your own auctions at least do it in the post auction analysis. 

  Brian

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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 09:55:02 PM

  Actually Dale is the psychic APF member.  Look at this post from over a year ago..........


Quote from: ddilts399 on June 03, 2010, 10:13:39 PM
I think we should already rename this thread to BRUCE AND DAVE BACK PATTING AND FREE ADVERTISING.

Like you both, but honestly I have never "seen" two people better at talking about themselves; cant argue with the results though!


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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:02:50 PM
I am more surprised it somehow attracted 65 bids - although I am sure the majority are the same few bidders.

And Bruce shouldn't count his chickens just yet - let's see if the buyer actually pays ;)
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Post by: holiday on October 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Ok, I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.  Bruce just put this up.  Get the fuck out of my way, because it's mine.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/french_harry_potter_and_the_prisoner_of_azkaban_heavy_stock_advance_NZ03310_L.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:15:34 PM
I waited until the auction was over to post, so obviously I was not promoting it (and in fact all my auctions had ended).

I was not mocking Mel, just poking fun at him, because what I said was absurd on the face of it, as no one could know this would happen. If he is somehow offended by my joke, he should let me know, and I will publicly apologize.

If you notice, I have stayed out of this, except to say that if you guys want to delete the thread you should do so. I post about my auctions in the For Sale thread the day they are closing, and that's it.

As to getting paid, this was not two "nuts" bidding to insane levels. There was a third bidder at the very end, and all three are advanced collectors who recognize how rare this piece is, and I have no doubt I could sell two additional examples to the underbidders, if they could be found. What was unusual about this auction was not the final price, but the very eBay way it was conducted, with all three laying in the weeds, waiting for the very end to bid.

Bruce

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Post by: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
P.S. I posted it in this thread, even after it was over, because that way a lot of people would see it! The post-auction thread is almost as dead as that other forum.

Bruce
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Post by: Cj on October 18, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Ok, I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.  Bruce just put this up.  Get the fuck out of my way, because it's mine.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/french_harry_potter_and_the_prisoner_of_azkaban_heavy_stock_advance_NZ03310_L.jpg)

Fuck you Holiday, You have some competition. My 8 year old daughter and I watched Harry Potter this weekend together for the first time. She is now a Harry Potter fan.
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 10:22:25 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:15:34 PM
with all three laying in the weeds, waiting for the very end to bid.

Bruce



I think they must have also been smoking some of it!


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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
P.S. I posted it in this thread, even after it was over, because that way a lot of people would see it! The post-auction thread is almost as dead as that other forum.

Bruce

  I totally agree with you on this point.  I am not sure why members are worried about getting the chat room up and running.  This thread has become the chat room, auction debate, Kate Beckinsale fan club, post auction, Holiday chest thumping, ebay selling thread.

  Brian
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 10:25:37 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 10:23:48 PM
This thread has become the chat room, auction debate, Kate Beckinsale fan club, post auction, Holiday chest thumping, ebay selling thread.

  Brian

And clown outing

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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 18, 2011, 10:25:37 PM
And clown outing



  Absolutely loved that circus poster.  I would love a pm if you see another poster of equal merit available.  I really wish that the circus thread was stronger.  I am really starting to like some of the older circus posters.

  Brian
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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Ok, I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.  Bruce just put this up.  Get the fuck out of my way, because it's mine.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/french_harry_potter_and_the_prisoner_of_azkaban_heavy_stock_advance_NZ03310_L.jpg)

Knock yourself out Holiday.
Me and my kids love Harry Potter, but I can think of at least 100,000 posters I would buy before I bid on that ugly ass paper.  Ugh.... wynk
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:30:15 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 18, 2011, 10:22:25 PM
I think they must have also been smoking some of it!




 ;D ;D
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:31:03 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Ok, I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.  Bruce just put this up.  Get the fuck out of my way, because it's mine.


(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/french_harry_potter_and_the_prisoner_of_azkaban_heavy_stock_advance_NZ03310_L.jpg)

I am bidding on it - because it's French.
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:32:03 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 10:23:48 PM
This thread has become the chat room, auction debate, Kate Beckinsale fan club, post auction, Holiday chest thumping, ebay selling thread.

  Brian

 :o
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Post by: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
We should ask Mark if there are only 20 copies of that French Harry Potter poster, so I can add it to the auction and maybe cause it to be ended like the Gangs of New York posters!

 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1

Bruce
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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 10:34:35 PM
Someone say....K-K-K-K-Kate?

(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Kate-Beckinsale-kate-beckinsale-79247_1024_768.jpg)
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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
We should ask Mark if there are only 20 copies of that French Harry Potter poster, so I can add it to the auction and maybe cause it to be ended like the Gangs of New York posters!

 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1

Bruce

  

  Okay, that was legitimately funny.  You got me to bite last Thursday on that "one in a hundred" Roger Rabbit poster, so ease up on the nmbers.   ;D


  Brian
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 18, 2011, 10:34:14 PM
We should ask Mark if there are only 20 copies of that French Harry Potter poster, so I can add it to the auction and maybe cause it to be ended like the Gangs of New York posters!

 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1

Bruce

Problem is - the consignor will probably pull it after reading that  eyeroll
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
Ted, I don't know if we can peacefully share Kate - may have to challenge you to a Fancy French slapping duel?  ;)
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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
Ted, I don't know if we can peacefully share Kate - may have to challenge you to a Fancy French slapping duel?  ;)

I ain't a-scared of you.  I saw you and Mel fight the last time...

                                                                       (http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1237363745_old_people_fighting.gif)

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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: brude on October 18, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
I ain't a-scared of you.  I saw you and Mel fight the last time...

                                                                       (http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1237363745_old_people_fighting.gif)



But we weren't fighting over Kate ;)
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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 11:01:43 PM


   Just to remind you guys what your dueling over......



                                     (http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/23/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-kate-beckinsale-edition/Beckinsale_unzipped.gif)
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Post by: CSM on October 18, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
I could never forget!
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 11:06:16 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 11:01:43 PM
   Just to remind you guys what your dueling over......

She needs to eat some more sausages

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Post by: brude on October 18, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 18, 2011, 11:06:16 PM
She needs to eat some more sausages

Hmmmmmm....
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Post by: ATLfun on October 18, 2011, 11:26:54 PM


  Please no gifs on that comment.
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Post by: 50s on October 18, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: brude on October 18, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
Hmmmmmm....

There is not much under there, me thinks

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 19, 2011, 12:17:28 AM
Bruce.. I looked at Anthony Adverse and considered bidding for it. then I noticed it had gotten some good bidding and passed.

I loved that film when I was young and watched it every chance I had.
Sadly, little paper seems to come up on the title and when it does, it's always the same poster
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Post by: Bruce on October 19, 2011, 06:55:30 AM
Rich, Fredric March is one of the absolute most underrated actors there is! Like Bogart, he appeared in a TON of great movies, yet he is rarely mentioned as one of the all-time greats.

And he seamlessly made the transition from leading man to character actor.

Here are ten of his best roles:

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
The Sign of the Cross
The Barretts of Wimpole Street
Les Misérables
A Star Is Born
One Foot in Heaven
The Best Years of Our Lives
Executive Suite
Inherit the Wind
Seven Days in May
and more!

Bruce
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Post by: agentprovocateur on October 19, 2011, 12:22:13 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 18, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Ok, I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.  Bruce just put this up.  Get the fuck out of my way, because it's mine.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/french_harry_potter_and_the_prisoner_of_azkaban_heavy_stock_advance_NZ03310_L.jpg)

I likey a lot... but your safe this end, I'm holding out for the English lenticular version! uhno

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/HPAzkabanLenticular.jpg)
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Post by: paul waines on October 19, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Now that's the one I'd want.....you shouldn't have shown me that one, me also likey... :D
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Post by: agentprovocateur on October 19, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
I think it's quite elusive Paul... have been keeping my eyes out for one over the past 2 odd years ever since I heard about it.

I purloined that image off a website that sold it for £350, if my understanding is correct it was a standee and only the portrait section is lenticular... but I could definitely be proved wrong!
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Post by: paul waines on October 19, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
That would make sense re: only the portrait being lenticular, a bit like in the film. I don't get the Standee bit, is it like a bill board stand...
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Post by: ddilts399 on October 19, 2011, 01:36:41 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on October 19, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
I think it's quite elusive Paul... have been keeping my eyes out for one over the past 2 odd years ever since I heard about it.

I purloined that image off a website that sold it for £350, if my understanding is correct it was a standee and only the portrait section is lenticular... but I could definitely be proved wrong!

The standee hand mini-lenticulars that were part of the setup. There is also a full size lenticular with an unconfirmed existence count of less than 10 or maybe even 5 I believe.
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Post by: marklawd on October 19, 2011, 06:30:12 PM
Exactly 6 of the US one sheet size, allegedly. Please don't ask me to provide studio confirmation.

Mark
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Post by: Neo on October 19, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
Here is a thread about the lenticular for Azkaban (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2289.msg34642.html#msg34642).  If there were only 6 produced, that has to be an ultimate unicorn.
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Post by: Louie D. on October 19, 2011, 10:36:14 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 19, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
that has to be an ultimate unicorn.

Only if you like "Top Gun".  ;D
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Post by: archie leach on October 20, 2011, 03:29:07 AM
Quote from: marklawd on October 19, 2011, 06:30:12 PM
Exactly 6 of the US one sheet size, allegedly. Please don't ask me to provide studio confirmation.

Mark

Maybe they were available at Suncoast...
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Post by: Chupito on October 20, 2011, 02:25:28 PM
I love the artwork on this bond poster.
Is this the 2 foglio Italian original release?
..shame its stuck on board or was it fabricated like that?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-James-Bond-007-DR-NO-5-FEET-Italian-Movie-Poster-/320778135151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aafdde66f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-James-Bond-007-DR-NO-5-FEET-Italian-Movie-Poster-/320778135151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aafdde66f)

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Post by: agentprovocateur on October 21, 2011, 08:25:19 AM
Some fascinating stuff in emovie's latest auction... especially two, one with artwork I've never seen for the film!

It'll be obvious what I'm after ;D
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Post by: Charlie on October 23, 2011, 11:58:58 PM
Hey does this Tiffany's look a little dot matrixy to you guys...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breakfast-Tiffanys-1961-Original-US-One-Sheet-Linen-Backed-Audrea-Hepburn-/270837862119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0f31cee7
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Post by: holiday on October 24, 2011, 12:17:10 AM
Did you miss this part?

"The title was cut out of this poster"

Even if it's real, its a dawg.  Better to spend a lot more money on a nice copy, than a little money on shit.  If you want an example, then buy a repro to display. Don't waste your money on this.
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Post by: Charlie on October 24, 2011, 12:26:00 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 24, 2011, 12:17:10 AM
Did you miss this part?

"The title was cut out of this poster"

Even if it's real, its a dawg.  Better to spend a lot more money on a nice copy, than a little money on shit.  If you want an example, then buy a repro to display. Don't waste your money on this.

Crap, I went right for the pictures. It is a "dawg".  Still I didn't realize how bad the printing job is on these.  I checked a few out on HA zoomed in and they are this way. 
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Post by: eatbrie on October 24, 2011, 12:32:07 AM
I would not buy this for $1.

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Post by: Charlie on October 24, 2011, 12:39:46 AM
Well I might buy it for $1 and clip out Audrey to hang up with thumbtacks; plus it looks like you could make at least $200 profit if you were to resell it.
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Post by: holiday on October 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Boy, between Bruce and Rich this week, there's a whole lot of nice posters on the block.
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Boy, between Bruce and Rich this week, there's a whole lot of nice posters on the block.

They really do.  That Halloween lineup with all that fairly old school stuff is pretty insane, and Rich has a lot of great newer stuff.  

Rich, what happened with the PF Lucky Strikes poster?  Haven't you sold that joker 2 times already?  Geez Louise, that has to be the most notorious Lucky Strikes poster around!
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Post by: ATLfun on October 27, 2011, 10:37:22 PM

  If I recall correctly, it was purchased by Rattler.  He bought it unaware that it was sun faded, and asked to return it.

  Brian
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 27, 2011, 10:37:22 PM
  If I recall correctly, it was purchased by Rattler.  He bought it unaware that it was sun faded, and asked to return it.

  Brian

I'm pretty sure he sold it twice, returned both times, and the guy who had it before him sold it at least twice, returned both (or more) times, then Rich bought it.
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Post by: ATLfun on October 27, 2011, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 27, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
I'm pretty sure he sold it twice, returned both times, and the guy who had it before him sold it at least twice, returned both (or more) times, then Rich bought it.

  Well, Rich has taken a blood oath to protect the identity of his sellers.  But I know, that Rattler bought the last one which looks like the one being sold this time.


  Brian
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2011, 11:05:54 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on October 27, 2011, 10:50:19 PM
  Well, Rich has taken a blood oath to protect the identity of his sellers.  But I know, that Rattler bought the last one which looks like the one being sold this time.


  Brian

Ah, well that's good that he protects the identity of his buyers (did you mean to say buyers?), and maybe he only sold it once then.  Still I've never seen a poster returned so many times, and the PF Lucky Strikes is a notorious version, itself. 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 27, 2011, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 27, 2011, 10:32:32 PM
Rich, what happened with the PF Lucky Strikes poster?  Haven't you sold that joker 2 times already?  Geez Louise, that has to be the most notorious Lucky Strikes poster around!

I only sold it on 8-24 and the winning bidder had made a mistake in bidding, so I cancelled the sale.
It never left the building
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2011, 11:25:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 27, 2011, 11:19:48 PM
I only sold it on 8-24 and the winning bidder had made a mistake in bidding, so I cancelled the sale.
It never left the building

That was mighty kind of ya to cancel the sale.  I've just seen it several times in different auctions, and it's kinda fun watching it go on the block numerous times, no pun intended.
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Post by: Louie D. on October 28, 2011, 12:54:20 AM
Quote from: holiday on October 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Boy, between Bruce and Rich this week, there's a whole lot of nice posters on the block.

Meh.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
Quote from: holiday on October 27, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Boy, between Bruce and Rich this week, there's a whole lot of nice posters on the block.

Yep I'd like to get one of the S2 litho reproduction posters at EMP but the best ones will blow up at the end and you can buy most of them for $325 from the S2 Art Group directly.

And I don't understand your big bid on the HP one sheet at MPB when the quad is way better and much cheaper.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 28, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
And I don't understand your big bid on the HP one sheet at MPB when the quad is way better and much cheaper.

it's called "a rarity"
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Post by: holiday on October 28, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 28, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
it's called "a rarity"

Yeah, I'm at 150 on it and because of it's rarity that's ok.  I don't think it will end up with me, though.  There's a few out there with more of a willingness to spend on this one than I.  It will likely command double or tripple my bid.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2011, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 28, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
it's called "a rarity"

Quote from: holiday on October 28, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
Yeah, I'm at 150 on it and because of it's rarity that's ok.  I don't think it will end up with me, though.  There's a few out there with more of a willingness to spend on this one than I.  It will likely command double or tripple my bid.

Gentlemen, for various reasons, I'll defer arguing with you until after this auction is over.  But after it's over, the image below will change to something relevant:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Missile.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on October 28, 2011, 08:43:51 PM
I'll bookmark your post and check back latr
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Post by: eatbrie on October 28, 2011, 09:08:50 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2011, 05:26:35 PM
And I don't understand your big bid on the HP one sheet at MPB when the quad is way better and much cheaper.

I don't understand it either.  $150 for what's essentially a badly photoshopped poster.  At least the Struzan is hand drawn.

But then again, I don't understand much these days, especially after seeing what some of Bruce's posters sold for.  All I know is that I'm so happy to be sitting on so many of these posters (so many I got for free), because if I had to start fresh today, I could not afford shit.

T
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:10:19 PM
This WOTW half-sheet is kind of like game 6 of the World Series. It looks like it's over and then the lead changes hands, with lots of new bidders! But it looks done now.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/half_war_of_the_worlds_NZ03029_L.jpg)

Bruce
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:15:02 PM
I spoke too soon. Still going on!
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Post by: Louie D. on October 30, 2011, 04:16:05 PM
This is EXCITING!!!
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
It has cracked $20K. Still nothing compared to Rich's HP unicorn.

Bruce
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Post by: Matt on October 30, 2011, 04:18:35 PM
I wish I had a lazy $20,000 to buy posters. :o
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
It has cracked $20K. Still nothing compared to Rich's HP unicorn.

Bruce

I never sold my Unicorn as low as $20,000.. but I've given it away on a number of ocassions when the gal was really cute
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2011, 04:21:24 PM
oh.. my apologies.. You were talking about the Harry Potter poster.. never mind
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Post by: 110x75 on October 30, 2011, 04:21:37 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 30, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
I never sold my Unicorn as low as $20,000.. but I've given it away on a number of ocassions when the gal was really cute

 laugh1
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:21:46 PM
Louie, it sure is exciting. I just hope the consignor remembered to take his medication today!

It might be years and years before another one comes up in a no reserve honest auction (or any auction, for that matter)!

Bruce
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:23:11 PM
Rich, whatever you do, please don't post an image of THAT "unicorn"!

Bruce
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Post by: crowzilla on October 30, 2011, 04:31:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
It has cracked $20K. Still nothing compared to Rich's HP unicorn.

Bruce

I guess the higher-end market on this piece is drying up.
A full $3,000+ less than the lowest previous auction price on this piece (for a badly faded one a few years ago).
I'm not sure who Halcarter is, but a sincere congratulations are in order to him for picking up a relative bargain.
I know the underbidder is a good friend who was actually bidding on a 2nd copy for his collection, and I'm very surprised he didn't go higher considering the usual prices on this piece (I know of a west-coast dealer who paid $24,000 for one last year).
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 04:40:31 PM
LIke I always say, there are always tons of bargains at http://www.eMoviePoster.com (http://www.eMoviePoster.com)

See, Thierry?

Bruce
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Post by: eatbrie on October 30, 2011, 05:00:25 PM
I disagree, Bruce.  I was looking at a few Spielberg inserts you had, but there is no way I'm going to spend that kind of money on inserts.  What is that, $90 for Temple of Doom?  I'm dumbfounded.  For an insert????

T
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
Thierry, any price I get, private dealers can get far more. Just ask them!

There are always tons of bargains at http://www.eMoviePoster.com (and never a buyers premium, fuzzy photo, fuzzier condition grade, and never rip-off shipping).

Bruce

If my prices seem high to YOU, then maybe you should consider consigning some unwanted items to us (and join our 839 other happy consignors)?

Bruce
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Post by: eatbrie on October 30, 2011, 05:50:26 PM
Your prices are not high, Bruce.  They are the prices of the market.  It is the market that I don't understand.  In this time of austerity, I am dumbfounded that people can spend so much on some items.  I am dumbfounded that people still have so much disposable income.  You're not the one I'm criticizing here, since you are one of the few who lets the market speak.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on October 30, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
Oh... and I don't sell.  It's just too much work.

T
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
Too much work?

1) Put unwanted items in tube or box and wrap securely (or have a friend do it for you).
2) Take to UPS or Post Office (or have a friend do it for you).
3) Sit back and cash checks as they come in.

That doesn't SEEM like "too much work", does it? And no photographing, describing, and listing. No packing and shipping 100 items one at a time!

Bruce
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Post by: Charlie on October 30, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
Too much work?

1) Put unwanted items in tube or box and wrap securely (or have a friend do it for you).
2) Take to UPS or Post Office (or have a friend do it for you).
3) Sit back and cash checks as they come in.

That doesn't SEEM like "too much work", does it? And no photographing, describing, and listing. No packing and shipping 100 items one at a time!

Bruce

Too much work T; gotta sort them first.  And with all the crap you've got:

Thierry,

I am not sure if what we offer is good for what you want to do. First off, it would probably only make sense if you only sent the ones that figure to sell for at least $15 each, due to our commissions. You might not want to go to all that trouble to find just those items. Second, you might find our grading too harsh for you. If we call a poster "good to very good" and you think it deserves higher, then you can't tell us to change it (you have to just live with our harsh grading), so that alone might make you not want to consign.

But if you still think that you want to, then let me know, and we can try to arrive at a plan. If not, I certainly understand.

Thanks,
Bruce

P.S. For a more timely response, please reply to phillip@emovieposter.com

Feel safe fucking with you Bruce since I just got my 6th poster in the Halloween auction...  Now send me some books!
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Post by: eatbrie on October 30, 2011, 06:18:21 PM
It is too much work by my standards, and I could never find a friend to do it for me.

For instance, I have a few mint rolled Revenge of the Jedi posters, but they are all the way at the bottom of the pile, and I just can't deal with it.  So I just add to the stack.  One day, I'm sure, but not today.

T
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Post by: Bruce on October 30, 2011, 06:29:28 PM
I bet there are LOTS of people who would volunteer to help you for free!

But if not now, then next year or the year after.

And Charlie does remind me of the important caveat. If you only have inexpensive posters, we would either not want most of them or ask that you let us bulk lot them (but of course that is immaterial, since you don't have the interest at present).

Bruce
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Post by: Charlie on October 31, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
I so have one of these.  Still in the package.  I have the 6' poster somewhere too with all the DC characters carrying the coffin...They gave it to dealers (my dad got one for the shop) for the promotion of the comic...  Cool!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361816

(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/27020/4a9c4bd2e90e2_27020n.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 02, 2011, 05:55:20 PM
Emovie is auctioning a kick-ass 2001 6S (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361760).  Look how pitiful the 1S looks compared to it (images are proportionately sized):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2001-2.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 02, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
People seem to pay a helluva lot of money for that little Cinerama logo!
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Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
Some of the most frenzied bidding imaginable from four different bidders!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361824 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361824)

All over a tiny picture!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/german_still_metropolis_18_a_WA02796_L.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 08:38:58 PM
A FIFTH bidder just entered the fray!
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Post by: ATLfun on November 03, 2011, 08:42:36 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on June 03, 2010, 10:13:39 PM

I think we should already rename this thread to BRUCE AND DAVE BACK PATTING AND FREE ADVERTISING.

Like you both, but honestly I have never "seen" two people better at talking about themselves; cant argue with the results though!


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Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
I am sorry I "outed" the auction, in case anyone here was hoping no one had noticed it!

Bruce
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Post by: Charlie on November 03, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
I am sorry I "outed" the auction, in case anyone here was hoping no one had noticed it!

Bruce

I hadn't noticed it. I was too busy watching X-Factor...  Not!  But no, I didn't notice it.  Stills are so pointless to me; I have yet to figure out their appeal...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 03, 2011, 09:08:15 PM
That is very striking indeed and much better than the one that sold for $4,000 IMHO.

So who is kittycat? S/he has $$$$ and is frequently fighting for this kind of expensive stuff....

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA101026/550/german_still_metropolis_6_NZ01236_L.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 09:17:07 PM
Sadly, this is the last robot still. There are 6 more stills left, which will be auctioned in the December auction (there were 21 in all) and all were purchased nearly 40 years ago!

Bruce

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Post by: brude on November 03, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Wow, went for almost 7k...makes me wonder what else they have in their collection...sheeesh...
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Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 10:05:37 PM
It may sound like a lot, but look for someone to post soon and say how it sold for half of what some dealers sold it for recently, and how incredible of a deal it was for the buyer!
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Post by: holiday on November 03, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 03, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
Some of the most frenzied bidding imaginable from four different bidders!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361824 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2361824)

All over a tiny picture!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/german_still_metropolis_18_a_WA02796_L.jpg)

It is a spectacular image.
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Post by: 110x75 on November 03, 2011, 11:07:52 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 03, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
I have yet to figure out their appeal...

It`s kinda easy once you see it...

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Humpp-Deadly%20Organ/aaescanear0033.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on November 04, 2011, 12:49:22 AM
Quote from: brude on November 03, 2011, 09:57:53 PM
Wow, went for almost 7k...makes me wonder what else they have in their collection...sheeesh...

Makes me wonder what this would sell for (not that I'm going to find out)  ;)

(http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/metropolis_sc.jpg)
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Post by: 110x75 on November 04, 2011, 12:50:50 AM
Oh!... I hate you Sean  :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 02:31:41 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 04, 2011, 12:49:22 AM
Makes me wonder what this would sell for (not that I'm going to find out)  ;)

(http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/metropolis_sc.jpg)

$12.77
I've already sent you a check
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Post by: CSM on November 04, 2011, 10:02:18 AM
I'll pay $12.78!
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Post by: Zorba on November 04, 2011, 10:21:43 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 03, 2011, 09:01:32 PM
Stills are so pointless to me; I have yet to figure out their appeal...

I see them as another cool part of movie history.  I only have three of them(including the one in my avatar)but I like em. I had to stop looking at them at the beginning cause I found myself bidding on them. NOT Smart for my limited budget. If I had limitless funds maybe.


Quote from: holiday on November 03, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
It is a spectacular image.

Agree.
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Post by: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 01:20:16 PM
I guess it's a case of if your into Posters, or Cinema. Poster collectors aren't really into Cinema and it's history. So
Wouldn't be interested in other film Memorabilia. They may collect Cinema posters, but it's the posters that's more
important.

I'm into Cinema first, and posters are part of that. If it came to a choice of you can have the film, or the poster?
I would pick the film every time, which is probably why I have several thousand films.... :-\
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 04, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
Cinema first for me too... That is why I'm not hung up on format (1sh, 1/2 sh, insert, Yugo, etc...). That still is phenomenal. Call me crazy though, but I actually prefer the still/lobby with both the mad doc and the robot.
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Post by: Zorba on November 04, 2011, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 04, 2011, 01:32:07 PM
Cinema first for me too... That is why I'm not hung up on format (1sh, 1/2 sh, insert, Yugo, etc...).

Same here...I am all all over the place and have yet to discriminate by country or size. I just love this stuff.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 01:20:16 PM
I'm into Cinema first, and posters are part of that.

totally so.. I am a cinema historian AND I collect posters
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Post by: crowzilla on November 04, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 04, 2011, 10:02:18 AM
I'll pay $12.78!

whew!  I was just about to put it in the mail to Rich, thank goodness I saw your post first.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 04, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
whew!  I was just about to put it in the mail to Rich, thank goodness I saw your post first.


don't worry.. I didn't have my calculator handy to add $10 shipping, so I just wrote a check for $23.00 total.. so obviously I can buy Chris's rebid 23 times over
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Post by: CSM on November 04, 2011, 01:41:47 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 04, 2011, 01:40:00 PM
whew!  I was just about to put it in the mail to Rich, thank goodness I saw your post first.


Rich will understand :)
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Post by: CSM on November 04, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 01:41:40 PM
don't worry.. I didn't have my calculator handy to add $10 shipping, so I just wrote a check for $23.00 total

Pshh...what good is a cheque nowadays?
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 04, 2011, 01:46:15 PM
Who spells check with a 'q'?  Damn Canadians... Get off my lawn!  :P
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Post by: agentprovocateur on November 04, 2011, 01:59:39 PM
Over here... is there another way spelling for cheque!? The only other way I can think of is 'check' but that would be silly ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 02:22:29 PM
a dog was barqing when my car was self-parqing last night. the sky was darqening and the the gardener was still worqing. he cut his hand and his words were fuqing. Then a duq kwaqqed by leading it's chiqs to the nearby laqe. then I woke up and realized it was all faqe
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Post by: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 02:27:53 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 01:20:16 PM
I guess it's a case of if your into Posters, or Cinema. Poster collectors aren't really into Cinema and it's history. So
Wouldn't be interested in other film Memorabilia. They may collect Cinema posters, but it's the posters that's more
important.

I'm into Cinema first, and posters are part of that. If it came to a choice of you can have the film, or the poster?
I would pick the film every time, which is probably why I have several thousand films.... :-\

Yeah, but if I wanted to see scenes from the movie, I would just watch it.  I don't see what a photo does to enhance the experience.  To me, the poster is what is suppose to get you excited about the film; it locks down on a piece of advertising what the film could be, is, and may be later...  If you are just into film, just watch movies no need to collect things.  Posters represent whole summed up experiences; stills little snip-its of what I've already seen. JMO  
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Post by: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
I do think you miss the point Completely Charlie.   In your way of thinking, why would you want the poster!!!... the poster is there to get you into the cinema. So after it's done it's job why would you want the poster, as you have seen the film, and don't need enticing in, so the poster is now useless.... 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Charlie, the stills are every bit as much of advertising as the posters are maybe even more so.

for instance, when I went to theatres as a kid, they had a whole assortment of images displayed from billboards to small formats AND large displays of stills - sometimes in proper scene order - in the outside port cochere. Then the long corridors had them also, in various sizes from 8x10 to 14x20 or even larger.

The posters are idealized images of the film story, or today, mostly just portraits. The stills are 100% representative of what you see on-screen unlike any other piece of advertising.

Finally, when yu opened up newspapers to the movie section, I don't ever recall seeing a reproduction of a poster used for a review, or one of those "here is a photo of Dick Powell in Murder My Sweet at the Pantages Theatre through Friday". Only stills were used.

Stills are great and I have thousands of them
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Post by: agentprovocateur on November 04, 2011, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 02:22:29 PM
a dog was barqing when my car was self-parqing last night. the sky was darqening and the the gardener was still worqing. he cut his hand and his words were fuqing. Then a duq kwaqqed by leading it's chiqs to the nearby laqe. then I woke up and realized it was all faqe

Quality... I love some of the different language spellings, one of my favourites is 'ize' endings to words rather than 'ise (realize or realise?). In the UK there's some great pronunciation differences between parts of the country.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:27:49 PM
I don't collect stills because I don't trust them.  It's hard enough to authenticate a poster, I can't imagine doing the same for stills and various re-releases.  It is so easy to reprint something based on a negative.

T
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Post by: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 03:35:15 PM
Like Rich, I think they are great, and have a few thousand myself. As you say T authenticating them is a nightmare, but it's like poster buying in the U.K, the more you see and handle the easier it gets, though the best of us can be caught out, it's all part of the learning curve...
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 04, 2011, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:27:49 PM
I don't collect stills because I don't trust them.  It's hard enough to authenticate a poster, I can't imagine doing the same for stills and various re-releases.  It is so easy to reprint something based on a negative.

T

That is a great point.  While I actually like stills and would happily buy them for movies I like, I don't currently own any.  I bought a back and they all turned out to later prints.  That definitely turned me off to buying from all but the most trustworthy sources...
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Post by: jayn_j on November 04, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:27:49 PM
I don't collect stills because I don't trust them.  It's hard enough to authenticate a poster, I can't imagine doing the same for stills and various re-releases.  It is so easy to reprint something based on a negative.

T

You should able to tell the difference in photographic papers the same way you do for poster paper based on age.  Older papers were printed on emulsion over a paper base.  In the late '70s, they switched to RC papers which are based on a synthetic plastic type base.

Not sure if there is a difference between originals and re-releases in many cases.  They tended to save the negatives and just print up another batch when needed.  I suspect that for many titles, they just reused the original set.  In addition, there were many reasons to create stills.

I think we tend to think of portrait stills of the stars, and those were heavily copied.  They did scene stills and I remember those on theater marquees, mixed in with the lobby cards.  I have some which are various wardrobe tests, makeup tests, blocking tests, etc.  I expect those were seldom duplicated as they were used for a single purpose and had no real publicity value.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
Take a movie like Gone With the Wind, for instance.  How many times has it been re-released?  10?  20?  How do I know a set of stills is from '39, or '42, or '54?  Can someone really tell the difference?  Is there a technological way to differentiate one printing from the other with absolute certainty, or is it just a dealer's best guess?

T
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Post by: jayn_j on November 04, 2011, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
Take a movie like Gone With the Wind, for instance.  How many times has it been re-released?  10?  20?  How do I know a set of stills is from '39, or '42, or '54?  Can someone really tell the difference?  Is there a technological way to differentiate one printing from the other with absolute certainty, or is it just a dealer's best guess?

T

The paper thing is only going to tell if it was printed post-1980.  As I said in the previous post, I think a lot of the re-releases just reused the original negatives, so there would be no detectable difference.  However, I also think the negatives were tightly controlled.  It is pretty easy to spot a print made from copying a print vs one made from an original negative. Since stills don't have a lot of value, I'm not sure if it makes a big difference if that particular print was made in 39 or 43, and I don't think there is any way to tell. 

If you had a print that you could guarantee was an original, you might be able to determine if another still came from the same run.  Setup is a manual process that involves manually cropping the negative.  Different runs would make different decisions on exposure and cropping.
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 04, 2011, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
Take a movie like Gone With the Wind, for instance.  How many times has it been re-released?  10?  20?  How do I know a set of stills is from '39, or '42, or '54?  Can someone really tell the difference?  Is there a technological way to differentiate one printing from the other with absolute certainty, or is it just a dealer's best guess?

T

And better yet, how do you tell the difference with crappy eBay photos and clueless sellers?
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Post by: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 04, 2011, 02:35:01 PM
I do think you miss the point Completely Charlie.   In your way of thinking, why would you want the poster!!!... the poster is there to get you into the cinema. So after it's done it's job why would you want the poster, as you have seen the film, and don't need enticing in, so the poster is now useless.... 

I seem to miss the point a lot on this forum.  I want the poster because I committed emotionally to the logorama of the cinema experience.  Now know that I have only been on this earth a short time and have never seen a still hung in a theater...  Never a window card or insert.  I only remember standing outside looking at the posters and trying to decide what to watch.

I wonder if the line on understanding stills has anything to do with age?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
Take a movie like Gone With the Wind, for instance.  How many times has it been re-released?  10?  20?  How do I know a set of stills is from '39, or '42, or '54?  Can someone really tell the difference?  Is there a technological way to differentiate one printing from the other with absolute certainty, or is it just a dealer's best guess?

you can tell usually by various imprints in the bottom border area or by NSS or studio # if the film got a new printing each time it was re-issued.
However, I think if you ask most dealers, if a still is reprinted by the studio during the film's initial release, which back then could last a couple years in some cases like GWTW, then we actually consider them all first release stills, at least in my mind. This is not the same as Frankenstein 1931 stills and 1938 stills, which are different releases
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Post by: Zorba on November 04, 2011, 04:40:42 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 04:29:36 PM

I wonder if the line on understanding stills has anything to do with age?


Probably has a bit to do with it. I think we are about the same age and while I dont really remember stills I do remember lobbies. At least I think I do. Maybe I am dreaming them?  :P

One of the things that I love about this is stuff is that it is what we make of it. Its all very personal. Whatever you make of it all is all that matters.
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Post by: holiday on November 04, 2011, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
I seem to miss the point a lot on this forum.  I want the poster because I committed emotionally to the logorama of the cinema experience.  Now know that I have only been on this earth a short time and have never seen a still hung in a theater...  Never a window card or insert.  I only remember standing outside looking at the posters and trying to decide what to watch.

I wonder if the line on understanding stills has anything to do with age?


I buy them when I like the image.  I don't much care if it's repro or vintage as long as it's reflected in the price.
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Post by: 110x75 on November 04, 2011, 05:24:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 04:29:36 PM

I wonder if the line on understanding stills has anything to do with age?


Or completist dementia...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 06:02:12 PM
I'm actually surprised that some of you don't really understand the basic reason for collecting stills, or posters, or anything else.

it's simple:

you say to-may-to, I say to-mat-to
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Post by: brude on November 04, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
I used to collect stills -- best scenes from special movies.
But like lobby cards (for me), they lost their appeal.
There are just too many posters I would rather have and only so much money.
Alas and alack...
Maybe I should go to law school....  wynk
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Post by: Bruce on November 04, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
I have seen far more stills than any of you, and I can tell you it is no science in determining originality, but rather a great educated guess (and some people are far more educated in this area than others).

Obviously, snipes and stamps on the back are very helpful, but still not a guarantee. There is NO one who can always tell an original from a re-release, restrike or repro, and if anyone wants to make that claim, I will put them to the test and they will fail.

But as long as you buy from someone who gives an unlimited guarantee on originality (and you have reason to believe they will be around for many years) then you are doing all you can.

Bruce
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: brude on November 04, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
I used to collect stills -- best scenes from special movies.
But like lobby cards (for me), they lost their appeal.
There are just too many posters I would rather have and only so much money.
Alas and alack...
Maybe I should go to law school....  wynk

dump the wife and kids and see how much you can collect

 thumbup
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Post by: brude on November 04, 2011, 07:04:10 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 06:58:58 PM
dump the wife and kids and see how much you can collect

 thumbup

Dumped the wife(s) but the young 'uns are 'lifers'...   wynk
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 04, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
There is NO one who can always tell an original from a re-release, restrike or repro, and if anyone wants to make that claim, I will put them to the test and they will fail.

Just as I thought.  This answers my question perfectly, Bruce, and is the one and only reason why I will not collect them.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 04, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
But as long as you buy from someone who gives an unlimited guarantee on originality (and you have reason to believe they will be around for many years) then you are doing all you can.

This is good, but it doesn't help me, since, per your previous answer, I'll never know either way.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 04, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 04, 2011, 02:27:53 PM
Yeah, but if I wanted to see scenes from the movie, I would just watch it.  I don't see what a photo does to enhance the experience.  To me, the poster is what is suppose to get you excited about the film; it locks down on a piece of advertising what the film could be, is, and may be later...  If you are just into film, just watch movies no need to collect things.  Posters represent whole summed up experiences; stills little snip-its of what I've already seen. JMO  

I agree with Charlie. Lobby cards can be cool but artistic and creative posters blow them away. 

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-38.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/StarWars4dANH1977SSFStyleD1978rr.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 07:41:55 PM
what Bruce is really talkng about is this

except in cases when you absolutely know this is an original still from the original release of the specified movie, it is through the education of dealing with large quantities of this type material over many, many  years that you are able to identify what is real and what is not.

people will say "it's an intuitive guess" but what that really means is that "in the opinion of an expert who has vast experience, this item is an original".

this is part of the skill of being an expert, like Bruce, Grey, Sean, myself and hordes of others and it is most definitely why each of us is are among the people you can trust (there are so many others like Ken Schacter, Ron Moore, John Hazelton, Franc in NY etc etc etc)
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Post by: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Stills are great and I have thousands of them

Great to hear.  90% of my collection is made up of stills.  Is your collection made of of some particular genre?
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Post by: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 04, 2011, 07:20:43 PM
I agree with Charlie. Lobby cards can be cool but artistic and creative posters blow them away. 

But you only show an example from a movie made in the 70's.  Lobbies in the teen's though the 30's showed much more artistic inspiration.
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Post by: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 04, 2011, 06:58:17 PM
Obviously, snipes and stamps on the back are very helpful, but still not a guarantee. There is NO one who can always tell an original from a re-release, restrike or repro, and if anyone wants to make that claim, I will put them to the test and they will fail.

I agree, Bruce, but it all depends what you are looking at.  If the item in question was from an Educational comedy short in the 30's, I think the snipe on the back would be a 99% guarantee of authenticity.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 09:33:40 PM
Great to hear.  90% of my collection is made up of stills.  Is your collection made of of some particular genre?

mostly very specific Louie.

I have well over 1000 stills 1900-now featuring gambling going one or in a casino or in a saloon with casino equipment or horse racing, pool players and the like

then of course I have a couple hundred Raymond Chandler as well as some Harryhausen. Also Lon Chaney Sr. I have some amount of Uni-horror stills and then beyond that if I thought there was something about a particular still I liked, I would buy it
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Post by: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 10:06:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 09:58:55 PM
mostly very specific Louie.

I have well over 1000 stills 1900-now featuring gambling going one or in a casino or in a saloon with casino equipment or horse racing, pool players and the like

then of course I have a couple hundred Raymond Chandler as well as some Harryhausen. Also Lon Chaney Sr. I have some amount of Uni-horror stills and then beyond that if I thought there was something about a particular still I liked, I would buy it

Cool.  I am kinda specific too, if you didn't know, but there are also certain films for the 30's that I have been trying to collect every still from.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on November 04, 2011, 10:06:50 PM
there are also certain films for the 30's that I have been trying to collect every still from.

most people don't realize what a Herculean task that is
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Post by: paul waines on November 05, 2011, 03:55:11 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
most people don't realize what a Herculean task that is

Absolutely,  I've been missing, and looking for 1 from Ghost of Frankenstein, 1 from Son of frankenstein, 4 from Invisible Man, 4 from War of the worlds, 5 from Forbidden planet,  for over 35 years. First release F.O.H. Stills are very easy to recognise, but never turn up.

The people who have them, if they still exist, don't part with them. As an example, I have 6 from The Mummy's Ghost. A fellow I know has  3 (i think, maybe 4) there's one I need from those he has, but he wants £500 for the 3 and won't split them.  So I have two hope's and one of them is Bob...   
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Post by: Charlie on November 05, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Who is this Bob guy everyone keeps referring to?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
Paul.. think of this.. you're talking about completiong FOH sets of 8
Louie is talking about completing US still sets which can number from 50 to over 300
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2011, 01:51:42 PM
I love stills now. When you collect favorite actors and directors like I do there's nothing that beats them. After 15 years of collecting I've decided that poster art can really detract of the love for a film. I'd say that over 70 % of the art for posters either does not fit the movie or is just bad. They also have the nasty habit of looking bad when damaged much more quickly than stills. And then there's this nasty habit of being so big that you can only show a few of them (basically the reason why I started a gallery, so I can show more), so that most of your collection is on a pile folded or unfolded.
I have over 6000 stills on flickr now, slowly added to them: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazardous_operations_movie_posters_and_stills/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazardous_operations_movie_posters_and_stills/)

Still collecting also appeals to my "completist" urges. When I was a kid I used to cut black and white photos from TV guides and making my own pictorial film encyclopedias.

Wim
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Post by: paul waines on November 05, 2011, 01:52:03 PM
I do have many "stills", Rich, but have never contemplated getting everyone from a particular film, especially originals..... The mind boggles.

If I had the time and money, I would have ago. So it's a lotto win I need before going there... My problem is it would be from a film like, Bride of Frankenstein.

Most likely all the Universal Monster movies.
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Post by: CSM on November 05, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 05, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Who is this Bob guy everyone keeps referring to?

Bob Sacamano of course!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 03:57:21 PM
Paul, while it is not a specific goal for me to get every still from all Raymond Chandler movies, largely because of the enormous task it is, I wouldn't mind being able to get them. However, unless I'm able to find near complete collections of them, and considering  my age, I doubt I would ever be able to complete such a task
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 05, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
Paul.. think of this.. you're talking about completiong FOH sets of 8
Louie is talking about completing US still sets which can number from 50 to over 300

How does one even go about determining how many stills were issued for a particular movie?  Is it listed in the press book or something?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 05, 2011, 04:25:56 PM
How does one even go about determining how many stills were issued for a particular movie?  Is it listed in the press book or something?

usually they can tell by how many keybook stills there are, and I'm certain that historians know exactly how many stills there are. One way to get an idea is the numbers on the still itself.
the first few letters/numbers are the studio release info and it would be followed by a dash & a number. that last number is the order #. if your still says C809-126 (made up #), then you can be sure there are at least 126 stills for that movie.

there are also of course people who have gotten studio files in days past with complete sets of stills.
I think the general number is approx 150 for certain studios and less for lesser studios. But you can find some films with absolutely incredible numbers of stills.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
I might mention, film historian Allan Asherman who I knew since I was a kid had one of the best collections of horror-sf stills ever assembled.

Unfortunately, he lived in a basement apartment  in Manhattan and one day back in the late 80s or so a watermain burst right out in front of his building. he was forced to evacuate due to the coming flood and that building was completely flooded below street level, and he lost everything. I would bet he knows exactly how many stills there are for most or all of the classics
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2011, 05:15:26 PM
The best way to determine the number of stills is to get hold of the contact sheets, for example this one for The Mackintosh Man:
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazardous_operations_movie_posters_and_stills/5377137223/in/set-72157625879673454/lightbox/)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazardous_operations_movie_posters_and_stills/5377137223/in/set-72157625879673454 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hazardous_operations_movie_posters_and_stills/5377137223/in/set-72157625879673454)
These contain all the shots made during shooting, but does not include per se all the stills. Sometimes there were more than one still photographers or stills were made before or after shooting the movie. Also the prints made by the advertising department weren't made during the production itself.

Other thing is of course that contact sheets are a thing from the small film era. You have to be indeed a historian, maybe even an archaeologist to know when the different techniques were in use.
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Post by: crowzilla on November 05, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
I don't have 6,000 stills (yet), but have cataloged almost all of my Japanese monster stills now.
Highest total for a single film - 171 (for the 1954 Godzilla).
I am a little over 2,000 for the Godzilla series in total (mainly a combination of Japanese and U.S. stills), and over 3,000 different including other Japanese giant monster movies.
 :)
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2011, 05:20:21 PM
You wouldn't have those monster stills online somwhere would you Sean? I find it very diificult to classify mine and I only have a few hundreds. Those damned monsters return too often in different films. :)
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Post by: Louie D. on November 06, 2011, 12:02:01 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
Louie is talking about completing US still sets which can number from 50 to over 300

The highest number I have ever seen is for 1927's "Wings", I have a still numbered 582.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2011, 01:20:39 AM
Quote from: Louie D. on November 06, 2011, 12:02:01 AM
The highest number I have ever seen is for 1927's "Wings", I have a still numbered 582.

you'll be able to fill in some holes when I put more out for auction
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Post by: 50s on November 06, 2011, 01:36:52 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2011, 01:20:39 AM
you'll be able to fill in some holes when I put more out for auction

It depends on what you put out, which holes are best suited to be filled
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 06, 2011, 01:36:52 AM
It depends on what you put out, which holes are best suited to be filled

for different holes you put out different fill

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/boot_kick.jpg)
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Post by: Louie D. on November 06, 2011, 09:22:06 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2011, 01:20:39 AM
you'll be able to fill in some holes when I put more out for auction

Cool, this is a hard title to obtain images on just because of Clara Bow and the aviation aspect of the film.  I got about 50 from this title.
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Post by: CJ138 on November 06, 2011, 09:44:19 AM
I have never seen this movie or poster, but the poster is pretty wild.
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/js33-LUCIO-FULCI-DRACULA-BUZZANCA-rare-1sh-POSTER-SPAIN-/150506897373?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ae8ffdd
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Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2011, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: CJ138 on November 06, 2011, 09:44:19 AM
I have never seen this movie or poster, but the poster is pretty wild.
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/js33-LUCIO-FULCI-DRACULA-BUZZANCA-rare-1sh-POSTER-SPAIN-/150506897373?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ae8ffdd

OH gosh!! And you guys give me crap for my hyper-modern posters :P
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Post by: Zorba on November 06, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
 laugh1

Adds new meaning to "bite my butt".
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Post by: brude on November 06, 2011, 11:05:27 AM
Don't ever laugh at the supernatural, fellas. 
In 2008, a vampire bat bit a butt south of the border...
It's all true, I tell you...  wynk

                                                    http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/2583/giant-vampire-bat-bites-miners-butt/ (http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/2583/giant-vampire-bat-bites-miners-butt/)
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Post by: CSM on November 06, 2011, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: CJ138 on November 06, 2011, 09:44:19 AM
I have never seen this movie or poster, but the poster is pretty wild.
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/js33-LUCIO-FULCI-DRACULA-BUZZANCA-rare-1sh-POSTER-SPAIN-/150506897373?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ae8ffdd

That's great!
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Post by: crowzilla on November 06, 2011, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2011, 05:20:21 PM
You wouldn't have those monster stills online somwhere would you Sean? I find it very diificult to classify mine and I only have a few hundreds. Those damned monsters return too often in different films. :)

No, sorry not online anywhere.
Be glad to help you try and identify any films you are having trouble with though
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on November 16, 2011, 11:03:57 PM
"Who is this Bob guy everyone keeps referring to?"

Bob.....you are......my number 1 man !
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Post by: Charlie on November 17, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on November 16, 2011, 11:03:57 PM
"Who is this Bob guy everyone keeps referring to?"

Bob.....you are......my number 1 man !

Batman...  Is there a real Bob?  I actually know a high level collector named Bob in Houston...  Slowing picking away at his collection (his retirement)...
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Post by: Charlie on November 17, 2011, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2011, 08:06:20 PM
Gentlemen, for various reasons, I'll defer arguing with you until after this auction is over.  But after it's over, the image below will change to something relevant:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Missile.jpg)

bump.

What does it all mean Mel?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 17, 2011, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 17, 2011, 02:02:48 PM
bump.

What does it all mean Mel?

Nothing too important. A couple of months ago somebody uploaded a very high quality image of the "Sorcerer's Stone" to MPDB.  But since I posted that screenshot I've learned that at least some of these English language "Sorcerer's Stone" posters were printed for Thailand and they are in the international B1 size (707 × 1000mm, 27.83" × 39.37"), so I think Rich's speculation that they are coming from Asia is correct.
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Post by: ddilts399 on November 17, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
Bob Brooks in Canada has some rare stuff.

He of the Dildo song fame, google it, it's hilarious if you like that type of humor, not that I do or anything...

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Post by: CineMasterpieces on November 20, 2011, 08:41:31 AM

check out these super rare Alien posters:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/190603148462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c60d53cae (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/190603148462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c60d53cae)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/180758206716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a160758fc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/180758206716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a160758fc)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/190603148743?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c60d53dc7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALIEN-NO-RESERVE-NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN-BRITISH-UK-DOUBLE-CROWN-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-/190603148743?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c60d53dc7)
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 20, 2011, 09:03:16 AM
What do I win if I've seen them before?  ;)
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on November 20, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 20, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
So I got that going for me...
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Post by: CSM on November 20, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on November 20, 2011, 09:24:10 AM
on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.

Sounds painful.
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Post by: archie leach on November 20, 2011, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 20, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
So I got that going for me...

Which is nice...
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Post by: Der Januskopf on November 25, 2011, 04:53:38 PM
Hi all..

This item is currently on ebay. The seller calls it a herald for Bride of Frank. I wrote the seller and asked about it, saying it appears to be more like a theater ad page. The seller about bit my head off, saying i was ignorant, didnt know what i was asking or talking about, and that he would not entertain more questions. I was taken aback, to say the least, as I asked questions. I also sent him a link to a genuine herald that Heritage had sold, for BOF, back in 2005.

This seller is also asking over $10,000.00 for this.   :o

So.. to all the "herald collectors and sellers" here, as well as Grey Smith-- IS this a first release herald? Or a theater ad? The other thing that caught my eye was the odd looking white border around the BoFrank side of this. Thoughts?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270857061698


(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6112/6401721067_26d21572f0_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6401721135_d0ff251c35_z.jpg)


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2011, 05:03:50 PM
it's a local theatre herald
this ass clown has been hawking the item for some time with that price

old news
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Post by: stewart boyle on November 25, 2011, 05:09:08 PM
As a novice i would say its a theatre ad,
Why would all those other performances for different films be advertised on the same Herald?

Stew
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Post by: Der Januskopf on November 25, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
My thought, too, was that it was a local ad or herald, especially with the film titles on the reverse. Was it common for heralds to also feature other titles and imagery on them? I always believed a herald was designed and printed for a specific title only? Or is it because this was printed for and by the specific theater?

And they chose to add "Coming Attractions" on the flip side?

My thought, too, was that the seller's lashing out was due to the fact that he KNOWS what he is selling is not what he claims, and he bristles when asked about it.








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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
it is a "local theatre herald" done by the theatre itself for their entire week's features
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Post by: stewart boyle on November 25, 2011, 07:00:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
it is a "local theatre herald" done by the theatre itself for their entire week's features
Thanks Rich,pretty much problem solved,..

Cheers

Stew
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Post by: CSM on December 01, 2011, 11:20:15 PM
Read this scary tale from Bruce's latest auction:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2403704

After we auctioned the War of The Worlds style B half-sheet, one of our consignors looked at his example on the wall (which he had framed over ten years before), and to his dismay, he realized it had faded over those ten years. Worse yet, he had it framed side-by-side with the Invasion of the Body Snatchers style B half-sheet (he also had a framed "The Thing" half-sheet on the same wall), and all three had faded (the framer he had used was an expensive one, and they had assured him that they had used high quality UV Plexiglas, but they had saved money by using non UV instead). After it completely sunk in what had happened, he thought it would make sense to consign both of them to us, so that he could put the sad affair out of his mind (the framer who did not use UV glass is out of business, so he has no one to sue). While the reds in this poster have indeed faded to where they are now a light orange
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Post by: holiday on December 01, 2011, 11:24:44 PM
It's scary to think that to be absolutely sure that the framer is doing its job, that you actually have to see the material in its original packing to be sure it's UV filtering.



Quote from: CSM on December 01, 2011, 11:20:15 PM
Read this scary tale from Bruce's latest auction:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2403704

After we auctioned the War of The Worlds style B half-sheet, one of our consignors looked at his example on the wall (which he had framed over ten years before), and to his dismay, he realized it had faded over those ten years. Worse yet, he had it framed side-by-side with the Invasion of the Body Snatchers style B half-sheet (he also had a framed "The Thing" half-sheet on the same wall), and all three had faded (the framer he had used was an expensive one, and they had assured him that they had used high quality UV Plexiglas, but they had saved money by using non UV instead). After it completely sunk in what had happened, he thought it would make sense to consign both of them to us, so that he could put the sad affair out of his mind (the framer who did not use UV glass is out of business, so he has no one to sue). While the reds in this poster have indeed faded to where they are now a light orange
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Post by: CSM on December 01, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: holiday on December 01, 2011, 11:24:44 PM
It's scary to think that to be absolutely sure that the framer is doing its job, that you actually have to see the material in its original packing to be sure it's UV filtering.




Although none of my posters are in the WotW 1/2 sheet $$$ range, this horror story (and that's exactly what it is  mesmrized) makes me very happy that the materials for all my frames were shipped to me with the UV plexi stickers still attached!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 02, 2011, 01:27:22 AM
Quote from: holiday on December 01, 2011, 11:24:44 PM
It's scary to think that to be absolutely sure that the framer is doing its job, that you actually have to see the material in its original packing to be sure it's UV filtering.

while UV plexi may help to lessen bad light waves, it is not meant to prevent all fading.
the best way to avoid any fading, is to keep your posters in a drawer
the second best is to not open the curtains
the next best is to make sure you don't have your posters on walls that get direct or reflected sunlight, which is the worst kind of light.

Looking at the WOTW poster, I think it was on a wall that got direct or indirect sunlight and nothing will prevent fading in either case, no matter what kind of glass or plexi you use
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 02, 2011, 01:29:06 AM
I might also add, I rotate all my displays, even if they only get indoor light. all light fades inks
right now none of my Chandler 1sheets are displayed.. they were up for a couple years.. now they're stacked away
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Post by: Charlie on December 02, 2011, 02:35:49 PM
Is it just me or do the S2 recreations kind of cheapen Bruce's signature auction...  I keep seeing an awesome poster an say to myself "wow, how awesome to see... oh wait its a licensed repro.  Stone litho, yeah but not an original"  I am browsing and keep getting fooled and it's annoying me.... 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 02, 2011, 03:03:46 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 02, 2011, 02:35:49 PM
Is it just me or do the S2 recreations kind of cheapen Bruce's signature auction...  I keep seeing an awesome poster an say to myself "wow, how awesome to see... oh wait its a licensed repro.  Stone litho, yeah but not an original"  I am browsing and keep getting fooled and it's annoying me.... 

Probably don't belong in a "major" auction but I want all of them!

Not sure they are licensed. A lot of the pre-1978 posters were never properly copyrighted and are in the public domain.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 02, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
Charlie, I wouldn't say that about the S2's but in Tuesday's auction I do see posters that I wonder why Bruce listed in that segment

Mel, re: licensing.. yes they are licensed, but not via the studios. Via AFI
if you notice, Bruce properly lists them as "recreations" because none of them that I am aware of are  reproductions. Each was completely redrawn by an artist whose signature is in the small print and as such, none of them are exact duplicates of anything - just close recreations contracted by AFI for their 100 best list of something
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 02, 2011, 03:51:04 PM
The Halloween auction sucked up a lot of the best stuff.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 04, 2011, 01:54:12 PM
I don't want anyone to miss this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-Thing-1982-ORIGINAL-Film-Poster-/260903620240?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3cbf114e90).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
WOW THIERRY.. HE HAS THE FOG ALSO AND WILL SELL AS A PAIR!!!!!

 mesmrized
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Post by: brude on December 04, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Damn, auction ended with nary a bid.  Wonder if he'll sell it outright for less...maybe 50?  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2011, 04:52:57 PM
Quote from: brude on December 04, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Damn, auction ended with nary a bid.  Wonder if he'll sell it outright for less...maybe 50?  wynk


cents????
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 04, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
Cents?
No, no, no....
50 wet farts!

(http://www.riprenfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/006-wet-fart-white-pants-accident.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on December 04, 2011, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: brude on December 04, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
Cents?
No, no, no....
50 wet farts!

(http://www.riprenfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/006-wet-fart-white-pants-accident.jpg)


That's just wrong


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 05, 2011, 06:38:21 PM
I was gonna photoshop "Louie was here" or "Barney Frank was here" on his back pocket, but I don't like to mess with copyrighted work...  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 06, 2011, 08:26:52 AM
On the S2s, we very accurately describe them, and we have NEVER had anyone complain after receiving one (because they DO look far better in person) and we have had many people who have sent us happy e-mails telling us they have framed and displayed them.

As of right now, many of these are at insanely low prices, and even the highest priced ones are still HALF of the original retail prices of $325 each!

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/s2/13.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/s2/13.html)

The below is currently just $68, and there are others as low as $23!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/sin_of_nora_moran_S2_WA02856_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Bruce you need to put a trash talk board on each auction so that when that other basterd bids you up you can say "Take it you fucking rich asshole!" 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 06, 2011, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Bruce you need to put a trash talk board on each auction so that when that other basterd bids you up you can say "Take it you fucking rich asshole!" 

LOL.. I have asked Bruce for this before

i want stuff like: Hah! take that, suck on this XXXXX, oh no you don't, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah and okay scumbag, you win....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 06, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 06, 2011, 08:26:52 AM
On the S2s, we very accurately describe them, and we have NEVER had anyone complain after receiving one (because they DO look far better in person) and we have had many people who have sent us happy e-mails telling us they have framed and displayed them.

As of right now, many of these are at insanely low prices, and even the highest priced ones are still HALF of the original retail prices of $325 each!

I put in an advance bid of $301 for the Woman In Red and some chump bid it up to $311, $14 less than the retail price! Freaking crazy-azz EMP bidders....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/WomanInRed1935SSRS2reprint.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 06, 2011, 11:27:30 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 06, 2011, 11:26:16 PM
I put in an advance bid of $301 for the Woman In Red and some chump bid it up to $311, $14 less than the retail price! Freaking crazy-azz EMP bidders....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/WomanInRed1935SSRS2reprint.jpg)

Mel, if you're willing to spend $301, why not just splurge on the remaining $24 and get it from the source?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 06, 2011, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 06, 2011, 11:27:30 PM
Mel, if you're willing to spend $301, why not just splurge on the remaining $24 and get it from the source?

Everybody knows you don't really appreciate a woman unless you win her!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Grease_car_race_LA_river.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on December 07, 2011, 09:05:44 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 06, 2011, 11:41:44 PM
Everybody knows you don't really appreciate a woman unless you win her!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Grease_car_race_LA_river.jpg)


Yeah, but Danny didn't want that skank.
Go Greased Lightnin', you're burning up the quarter mile...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
So I decided to buy it retail after all. Gotta have at least one of the S2s and it's one of the best of the remaining stock.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 07, 2011, 03:16:21 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 07, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
So I decided to buy it retail after all. Gotta have at least one of the S2s and it's one of the best of the remaining stock.

 clap  I wish it were more of a saracastic slow clap but oh well...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 07, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 07, 2011, 03:16:21 PM
clap  I wish it were more of a saracastic slow clap but oh well...

Like this? 
                   (http://skammie.net/pictures/albums/userpics/joker_clapping.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 07, 2011, 03:36:22 PM
Quote from: brude on December 07, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Like this? 
                   (http://skammie.net/pictures/albums/userpics/joker_clapping.gif)


lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 07, 2011, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: brude on December 07, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Like this? 
                   (http://skammie.net/pictures/albums/userpics/joker_clapping.gif)


That works MUCH better!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 11, 2011, 09:38:30 PM
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/HP.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 11, 2011, 09:45:15 PM
 laugh1

Thats great Mel.

BTW... Nice avatar. I am also liking the Lauren Graham.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 11, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
It's already 10 times the estimate and just two bidders.  Serious money + serious Potter nerdage....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 11, 2011, 09:59:42 PM
I will never understand why people like signatures so much.  Ooohhh. Daniel Radcliffe wrote his name on a piece of paper.  Well, that's worth $10k.

 hitself
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on December 11, 2011, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 11, 2011, 09:59:42 PM
I will never understand why people like signatures so much.  Ooohhh. Daniel Radcliffe wrote his name on a piece of paper.  Well, that's worth $10k.

 hitself
Can i buy this of you? i`d offer 11k..my man..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 14, 2011, 09:38:18 PM
What do you guys think...  I'm about to buy this...

(http://static.zoovy.com/img/redford/W414-H414-Bffffff/4/461720_1020_a.jpg)

There are 3 versions of this poster, blue (pictured), red and purple.  The purple, which I couldn't find a picture of, is the one I'm about to buy.  It's also much rarer than the blue one.  Mint condition, $1,500.

Opinions?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on December 14, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 14, 2011, 09:38:18 PM
What do you guys think...  I'm about to buy this...

(http://static.zoovy.com/img/redford/W414-H414-Bffffff/4/461720_1020_a.jpg)

There are 3 versions of this poster, blue (pictured), red and purple.  The purple, which I couldn't find a picture of, is the one I'm about to buy.  It's also much rarer than the blue one.  Mint condition, $1,500.

Opinions?

T

If you can get it for $1500. BUY IT. That's a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 14, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
It is a pretty nice poster Thierry but man I could find a lot of really special posters for $1,500!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 14, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
That is a cool poster, but if I was gonna own one Bond, it would be a McGinnis.  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 14, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 14, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
It is a pretty nice poster Thierry but man I could find a lot of really special posters for $1,500!

I agree, but T is too lazy to look for them  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 14, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on December 14, 2011, 10:01:06 PM
I agree, but T is too lazy to look for them  ;)

Hahaha...that's true!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 14, 2011, 10:05:05 PM
Im really not qualified to answer cause I have never spent over $250 and probably never will but I love that poster. I have a baby re release hanging above my monitor as I type. I would do some bad things for an original one panel. Buy it! One life! Enjoy!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PPk4PqA1dZ0/TXqgG0dS6vI/AAAAAAAAC0o/_nEBqufB-7A/s720/P3110009.JPG?gl=US)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 14, 2011, 10:08:10 PM
I`m not a big bond fan Zorba, but that wall looks really good
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 14, 2011, 10:09:40 PM
Notice Z has it below a McGinnis?
It does look nice framed, Z.  But T will only squirrel it away in a drawer for eternity.  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on December 14, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/7a40b3f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 12:47:28 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 14, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
It is a pretty nice poster Thierry but man I could find a lot of really special posters for $1,500!

Thanks Chris, but that wasn't really the point of my question.  I have many posters worth $1,500 or more, and hopefully will get many more before I die.  The question was more... is it worth it, to which Silence seems to have an answer.  There are so posters that I would spend $5k on in a heartbeat, and some that I need comforting on.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 12:48:49 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 14, 2011, 09:44:18 PM
It is a pretty nice poster Thierry but man I could find a lot of really special posters for $1,500!

Thanks Chris, but that wasn't really the point of my question.  I have many posters worth $1,500 or more, and hopefully will get many more before I die.  The question was more... is it worth it, to which Silence seems to have an answer.  There are so posters that I would spend $5k on in a heartbeat, like Laura, and some that I need comforting on.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 15, 2011, 02:42:16 AM
Quote from: Silence on December 14, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/7a40b3f3.jpg)

Now, that's what I'm talking about...
McGinnis...nobody does Bond better.
 clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on December 15, 2011, 08:14:47 AM
Back to that elusive "worth" thing again.  Market value is more about how others place worth on an item than how you do that.

Personally, I think that poster is by far one of the nicest Bond designs out there.  The market tends to value the US original 1 sheets higher though.

Can't really ask me, as I have never spent more than $500, and seldom more than $120 on any poster.  I have a lot of "junk" that gives me great pleasure.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on December 15, 2011, 09:52:43 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 12:48:49 AM
Thanks Chris, but that wasn't really the point of my question.  I have many posters worth $1,500 or more, and hopefully will get many more before I die.  The question was more... is it worth it, to which Silence seems to have an answer.  There are so posters that I would spend $5k on in a heartbeat, like Laura, and some that I need comforting on.

T

I think if YOU need comforting, then you should let it go.  What's the point of getting it if there's even a seed of doubt to cloud your feelings about the purchase?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 15, 2011, 10:13:54 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 12:48:49 AM
Thanks Chris, but that wasn't really the point of my question.  I have many posters worth $1,500 or more, and hopefully will get many more before I die.  The question was more... is it worth it, to which Silence seems to have an answer.  There are so posters that I would spend $5k on in a heartbeat, like Laura, and some that I need comforting on.

T

You did ask for opinions - and my opinion is I would rather buy a different poster for $1,500 (but then again, I am no Bond fanatic)

But I also opined it has some pretty colours so that helps to offset its "Bondness"...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 15, 2011, 11:49:39 AM
I do pick up a fair few Bond posters, but I (and don't get me wrong, I do like it) would rather spend $1500 on something much more special. In-fact, I could buy 3 or more posters for that kind of money that would in my opinion......er, can I say piss all over it!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on December 15, 2011, 12:13:53 PM
It's a lovely poster, T. Great art.

If your gut says yes, go for it.

I didn't realise there was a baby re-release, will have to keep an eye out for it...it's more suited to my shallow pockets!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
Quote from: Silence on December 14, 2011, 10:23:36 PM
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/7a40b3f3.jpg)

Quote from: brude on December 15, 2011, 02:42:16 AM
Now, that's what I'm talking about...
McGinnis...nobody does Bond better.
 clap

Ted.. you do know that McGinnis only did the bottom panel don't you??.
the top two panels are done by Frank McCarthy
but it is a very nice poster no matter who did it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 12:58:29 PM
I just checked Heritage.  They sold one for $2k a month ago, so I feel better about my purchase.  I think I'm going to go for it... 

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7043&lotNo=83373 (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7043&lotNo=83373)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 12:59:27 PM
oh.. here's a fun line
eatbrie Thierry hates "French Grande"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
Yeah, very funny, the only problem is that now I can't post pictures anymore because they come straight from my website and APF doesn't recognize Eatshit.com.

Actually, if you do a search for eatshit.com, you get this (http://www.spankme.com/).  Disturbing!!!

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 15, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
Ted.. you do know that McGinnis only did the bottom panel don't you??.
the top two panels are done by Frank McCarthy
but it is a very nice poster no matter who did it

Yes, I did Rich.  I should have specified.
Those McGinnis girls always give me tunnel vision.
 hitself
McCarthy is one of those unsung greats that some of today's younger poster collectors might be unfamiliar with.
At one time, I had several of his movie posters...today, only this:

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/valley_of_gwangi_poster_01.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: brude on December 15, 2011, 02:42:16 AM
Now, that's what I'm talking about...
McGinnis...nobody does Bond better.
 clap

Nothing like this French double panel.  Now, that's a poster.

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Thunderball3.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:05:02 PM
So I've decided to buy the French Dr. No.  It's too good of a deal to pass.  Plus, if I ever decide to put it up, it will look good next to one that I acquired earlier this year.

(http://factoidz.com/images/user/drnofrenchaficheposter.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 15, 2011, 08:13:15 PM
I hate rich people.  :P

Seriously. Great decision!

You should put them both up. A great set they would make. I love the crap I put on my walls I can only dream of putting some of your stuff on my walls.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on December 15, 2011, 08:19:20 PM
Nice pick up T,It`s going to the right place..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
I think I made a mistake by stating how much the Bond poster was going to cost me if I ever bought it.  It is not something I like to do.  I just needed to know what the board thought and I got carried away.  For that I apologize. 

I am not rich, Zorba.  I'm doing okay, but I'm not rich.  Rich is always relative, especially in the neighborhood I live in and with the friends I have.  Trust me, there are a lot of things I want that I can't afford.  I still have a gigantic mortgage to pay on my house and every penny counts.  And like everyone else on here, I droll over other people's collections.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 15, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:29:26 PM
I think I made a mistake by stating how much the Bond poster was going to cost me if I ever bought it.  It is not something I like to do.  I just needed to know what the board thought and I got carried away.  For that I apologize. 

I am not rich, Zorba.  I'm doing okay, but I'm not rich.  Rich is always relative, especially in the neighborhood I live in and with the friends I have.  Trust me, there are a lot of things I want that I can't afford.  I still have a gigantic mortgage to pay on my house and every penny counts.  And like everyone else on here, I droll over other people's collections.

T

I was making fun T.

I love your taste in posters period.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:00:38 PM
Nothing like this French double panel.  Now, that's a poster.

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Thunderball3.jpg)

T

that's a nice double Thierry hates "French Grande" eatbrie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 08:36:22 PM
ah dammit.. Holiday reset the filter so now I actually have to say eatshit

dammit
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Zorba on December 15, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
I was making fun T.

I love your taste in posters period.  :)

I understand, but this is a very competitive hobby and I know I don't like to hear what people spend on what I can't afford.  I'm better now than I was 5 years ago, which was already better than 5 years earlier, so this is what I can hope for all of us.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2011, 08:36:22 PM
ah dammit.. Holiday reset the filter so now I actually have to say eatshit

dammit


Yeah, because I couldn't post pictures, Rich.  You can still call me eatshit, though.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CJ138 on December 15, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
WTF.  If someone buys this I own a bridge I would like to sell them

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Saw-3D-PLAY-ME-DVD-Rare-movie-prop-Jigsaw-Tobin-Bell-horror-movie-/300600245746?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fd2bbdf2
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4185 on December 15, 2011, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on December 15, 2011, 08:14:47 AM
Can't really ask me, as I have never spent more than $500, and seldom more than $120 on any poster.  I have a lot of "junk" that gives me great pleasure.

Me too - i get a lot of pleasure from many `lesser' titles that i happen to like
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 16, 2011, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 15, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
but this is a very competitive hobby
T

Is it really?  I have never thought of it that way and I think approaching a hobby as a competition is very wrong (much like being a completist!)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 16, 2011, 07:53:29 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 16, 2011, 12:34:57 AM
(much like being a completist!)

Not when every poster for the same film has different art  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 16, 2011, 09:02:50 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 16, 2011, 12:34:57 AM
Is it really?  I have never thought of it that way and I think approaching a hobby as a competition is very wrong (much like being a completist!)

Yes, I agree, approaching any hobby as a competition is unhealthy.
If I get a poster - great, fantastic! If not, then shame, but not the end of the world - I'll live!
Personally, I don't try to buy up every poster that I consider rare so that I stop others from getting their hands on them like some people in this hobby do.
I just don't understand that.

Sorry if I have read wrong, but I don't think being a completest is a negative thing at all.
A museum is essentially a completest institution and many collectors who consider themselves this type are pretty much creating their own private museum, which is superb in my opinion.

Look at T for instance - he has a collection that is simply staggering.
His collection is a great reference tool for collectors.

And look at Paul too - my God, I have never known any collector to have what he has!
If only you had a website for your collection, Paul!!!!!!  ;D

Cheers,
Ad
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
It's a competition in the sense that if you really want something, you fight for it.  Bruce and Rich, with their extended bidding crap (sorry guys) make sure that it becomes a competition.  Ebay, not so much.

T
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 16, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:44:49 AM
It's a competition in the sense that if you really want something, you fight for it.  Bruce and Rich, with their extended bidding crap (sorry guys) make sure that it becomes a competition.  Ebay, not so much.

T

Point taken, T.
I understand this view and agree on it.

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Post by: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
About rebuying posters I already own, which has happened a few times...  If I buy a "rare" poster for $1,000 (meaning a poster I've been searching for a long time) and see it go for sale again a year later at $100, hell yes, I will buy it again.

T
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 16, 2011, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
About rebuying posters I already own, which has happened a few times...  If I buy a "rare" poster for $1,000 (meaning a poster I've been searching for a long time) and see it go for sale again a year later at $100, hell yes, I will buy it again.

T

Yes, I suppose I can see your point here also lol.

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Post by: paul waines on December 16, 2011, 12:06:57 PM
I find myself doing that, if something turns up very cheap, I'll pick it up just because.....


I must say I don't consider bidding, fighting for something you want as The fellow with the biggest wallet will always win. Also I hate over paying for anything, so I will bail out before it gets too expensive.  In England we call this common sense.

Thanks for the kind words Adam, I am looking into setting up a web site....   
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Post by: marklawd on December 16, 2011, 12:36:47 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
About rebuying posters I already own, which has happened a few times...  If I buy a "rare" poster for $1,000 (meaning a poster I've been searching for a long time) and see it go for sale again a year later at $100, hell yes, I will buy it again.

T

Yes, I would do this as well. It brings down the average cost of the poster which I most likely overpaid for the first time and it may be in better condition.

Mark
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Post by: Tob on December 16, 2011, 03:47:05 PM
Paul, please set up a website, I'd love to see your collection (nosy of me, but you've got far too many amazing quads to not share!). I'd recommend Weebly...I've managed to make half a website using it and I'm a massive technophobe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on December 16, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Quote from: marklawd on December 16, 2011, 12:36:47 PM
Yes, I would do this as well. It brings down the average cost of the poster which I most likely overpaid for the first time and it may be in better condition.

I would only do it if it were in better condition.  I just don't need the extra hassle otherwise...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 16, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
About rebuying posters I already own, which has happened a few times...  If I buy a "rare" poster for $1,000 (meaning a poster I've been searching for a long time) and see it go for sale again a year later at $100, hell yes, I will buy it again.

I have bid on quiote a number of posters over time looking to support a price I previously paid



........ and I have the duplicates to prove it!  hitself
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 16, 2011, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
I have bid on quiote a number of posters over time looking to support a price I previously paid



........ and I have the duplicates to prove it!  hitself

 laugh1

Now thats funny.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2011, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: Zorba on December 16, 2011, 08:49:47 PM
laugh1

Now thats funny.

it was meant to be!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 17, 2011, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2011, 10:50:50 PM
it was meant to be!!

I know!   
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 17, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Tob on December 16, 2011, 03:47:05 PM
Paul, please set up a website, I'd love to see your collection (nosy of me, but you've got far too many amazing quads to not share!). I'd recommend Weebly...I've managed to make half a website using it and I'm a massive technophobe

Thanks Tob, I'll look into it.

My problem is to get a program to build a site costs "X"
and I think buy another poster instead....  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 17, 2011, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: paul waines on December 17, 2011, 10:34:07 AM
Thanks Tob, I'll look into it.

My problem is to get a program to build a site costs "X"
and I think buy another poster instead....  eyeroll

The thinking is sound but what about us? Your fans.  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 17, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
I do try to share the love on this forum....  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on December 17, 2011, 11:07:37 AM
New mantra.  Check database first, then bid.  Several new duplicates in the last year from not listening to myself.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 17, 2011, 11:10:08 AM
Quote from: paul waines on December 17, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
I do try to share the love on this forum....  :D

You do!

We are greedy.  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on December 22, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
Why?

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/ssp_temp_capture-1.jpg)
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Post by: stewart boyle on December 22, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Really?? this poster could cost that??
http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/dracula-original-release-uk-hammer-quad-very-rare-56843101.htm (http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/dracula-original-release-uk-hammer-quad-very-rare-56843101.htm)

Paul...really???  ;)

Stew
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Post by: Louie D. on December 22, 2011, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: holiday on December 22, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
Why?

Unfolded maybe?  I dunno, I wouldn't pay $5.00 for that crap.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on December 22, 2011, 06:39:21 PM
well, maybe $5.00 but not over $700
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on December 22, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
Really?? this poster could cost that??
http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/dracula-original-release-uk-hammer-quad-very-rare-56843101.htm (http://uk.ebid.net/for-sale/dracula-original-release-uk-hammer-quad-very-rare-56843101.htm)

Paul...really???  ;)

Stew


I hate to say this Stew, but Richard Has that up for a very VERY  cheap price. I'm surprised it hasn't sold yet....

I've seen this poster go for £15-20,000. One or even the most desirable Quads out there 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on December 22, 2011, 07:37:38 PM
Quote from: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
I hate to say this Stew, but Richard Has that up for a very VERY  cheap price. I'm surprised it hasn't sold yet....

I've seen this poster go for £15-20,000. One or even the most desirable Quads out there 
Wow,  :o

I need to get into Hammer...

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
A pic does not do justice to the Bill Wiggins artwork, it really needs to be seen in the flesh.

I would do Terrible things to get one.... mesmrized
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 22, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
I hate to say this Stew, but Richard Has that up for a very VERY  cheap price. I'm surprised it hasn't sold yet....

I've seen this poster go for £15-20,000. One or even the most desirable Quads out there 

I would agree that it is fairly priced for a dealer sale, but I wouldn't call it 'very cheap.'

Christies Sales
2009 - £9,375
2008 - £11,250
2001 - £7,638
1999 - £6,900

It is an awesome poster, though, and I too would love to own one some day.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
The last one sold for £15,000+ and Buyers premium to add, and as a Hammer Quad collector
I do think Richard has that priced to sell, as he usually is over the top price-wise. I spoke to him recently
and he told me He bought out a Horror/Hammer collectors collection, so I think it's from his
own collection, as he said he had an absolute mint copy.

It's one of the ultimate Quads. Not as nice, but up there with it is Curse of Frankenstein
Which should go for more, but that Bill Wiggins art is Fantastic in real life, it really needs to
be seen in the flesh....

Very Cheap is what it is.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 22, 2011, 09:15:35 PM
Quote from: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Very Cheap is what it is.

I`ll take 2  ;)
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Post by: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 09:41:53 PM
I wish I could afford two....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on December 22, 2011, 09:43:27 PM
I wish I could aford to look at it  :P

It is one sweet freaking poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on December 23, 2011, 02:38:54 AM
Quote from: holiday on December 22, 2011, 05:52:45 PM
Why?

What is a decent price for a rolled Jaws one sheet these days? It's close to being my favourite film of all time, and I'd like a poster for it one day...looks like I'd better start saving the £$£$...
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 23, 2011, 07:19:15 AM
Quote from: paul waines on December 22, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
The last one sold for £15,000+ and Buyers premium to add, and as a Hammer Quad collector
I do think Richard has that priced to sell, as he usually is over the top price-wise. I spoke to him recently
and he told me He bought out a Horror/Hammer collectors collection, so I think it's from his
own collection, as he said he had an absolute mint copy.

It's one of the ultimate Quads. Not as nice, but up there with it is Curse of Frankenstein
Which should go for more, but that Bill Wiggins art is Fantastic in real life, it really needs to
be seen in the flesh....

Very Cheap is what it is.

And he'll charge a flat fee of £100.00 for personal delivery as well!
Think that's taking the water no matter how good a deal it is.

Ad
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Post by: 110x75 on December 27, 2011, 06:01:41 PM
Just noticed (by the PROGRAMA AJURIA snipe) this incomplete six sheet was used in a theater in Argentina. The street in the address (Lavalle) is a street in Buenos Aires that was called "The street of cinema" because a lot of theaters and most of the distribution companies had their offices there...
Bruce, is the consignor from down here? I wonder how much this poster has traveled since 1929...

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/1929-6sh_broadway_scandals_incomplete-argentineanAJURIASNIPE.jpg)
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Post by: brude on December 27, 2011, 06:04:50 PM
That is a beautiful poster part...
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Post by: Bruce on December 27, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
Nope, actually, he is from the northwest U.S.!

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on December 27, 2011, 10:18:33 PM
I am digging that poster part too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 27, 2011, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 27, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
Nope, actually, he is from the northwest U.S.!

Bruce

Damn!

(http://premisepunchtag.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/head_scratch.gif)
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Post by: brude on December 28, 2011, 11:07:32 PM
Check this out....quite the rummage sale...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEVIN-EASTMANS-Art-Studio-Auction-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Heavy-Metal-Mag-/270880293673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11b94329 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEVIN-EASTMANS-Art-Studio-Auction-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Heavy-Metal-Mag-/270880293673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11b94329)
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Post by: holiday on December 29, 2011, 12:33:18 AM
Quote from: brude on December 28, 2011, 11:07:32 PM
Check this out....quite the rummage sale...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEVIN-EASTMANS-Art-Studio-Auction-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Heavy-Metal-Mag-/270880293673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11b94329 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEVIN-EASTMANS-Art-Studio-Auction-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Heavy-Metal-Mag-/270880293673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11b94329)

THAT would be a whole lotta fun!
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Post by: Neo on December 29, 2011, 12:44:15 AM
Quote from: holiday on December 29, 2011, 12:33:18 AM
THAT would be a whole lotta fun!

The auction really is a smorgasbord of fun.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 29, 2011, 01:00:01 AM
Neo has it right when he says it's a smorgasbord
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on January 03, 2012, 11:43:19 PM
Kudos to Bruce for a good auction lineup this week, I love Italian posters, I wish EMovie had these more often, I get so sick of the US one sheets and lobbies!  He just needs to work on getting some more Marisa Mell stuff, tired of paying retail off ebay from Italy all the time!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on January 04, 2012, 08:28:42 AM
I love French and Italian posters too! But I can only auction what I have been consigned. so that will determine how often (and how many) of these cool posters we get!

Bruce
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Post by: wonka on January 04, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on January 03, 2012, 11:43:19 PM
Kudos to Bruce for a good auction lineup this week, I love Italian posters, I wish EMovie had these more often, I get so sick of the US one sheets and lobbies!  He just needs to work on getting some more Marisa Mell stuff, tired of paying retail off ebay from Italy all the time!

Agree, Italian paper is amongst my favorite as well.

This is one purchased from Bruce and Co. that I posted 'round here some time ago, couple years back, I think. Haven't seen one since, and I think its a beauty (IMO of course), and represents the time period well with the actors displayed and art style. Going up on the wall at some point.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6636012865_119b2a13bf_b.jpg)
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Post by: brude on January 04, 2012, 01:23:05 PM
That is a beautiful poster, Ben.  clap
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 04, 2012, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: wonka on January 04, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6636012865_119b2a13bf_b.jpg)

Very nice, reminds me of - or vice-versa - David Klein's TWA poster (http://david-toms.blogspot.com/2010/07/up-up-and-away-with-twa-and-savoir.html):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/twa_ny.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on January 04, 2012, 02:14:59 PM
Good eye Mel, I thought the same when I bought it.

Both pieces are quintessential 60s in their similarities and in their own right, which I would say is a good thing for sure.
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Post by: Zorba on January 04, 2012, 06:56:48 PM
Ben, I loved the poster then but I think I love it even more now.
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Post by: eatbrie on January 04, 2012, 09:18:49 PM
It's a beautiful poster for sure, but man, do I hate that Italian crappy paper.  Since I'm against linenbacking (personal choice), it would be a tough one to display (but then again, I don't display posters :)).

T
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Post by: wonka on January 04, 2012, 11:07:14 PM
Thanks, Thierry.
I am not as anti-linen as some may be, but when it works, I think it works really well.

As you mention, the Italian paper is a detriment, but when you get a hold of some great paper that could use some insurance for the future, these are great candidates for preservation. I am having this particular poster put on linen with very minor restoration. I would like it to have a few holes filled and backed so the paper doesn't fall apart, but I also want it to look like what it is...an old movie poster.
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on January 10, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
I shake my head in unbelief when I see people bidding up an item for more than it's selling in FINE condition on a vendors website.  And these two guys I have in mind who are on a bidding war look to be regular bidders on eMovie, you'd think they'd know. Oh well, saves me money.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 10, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on January 10, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
I shake my head in unbelief when I see people bidding up an item for more than it's selling in FINE condition on a vendors website.  And these two guys I have in mind who are on a bidding war look to be regular bidders on eMovie, you'd think they'd know. Oh well, saves me money.

Bruce has lots of bidders who do not buy posters anywhere else, largely because of "trust issues"
when they buy from Bruce, they know what they're getting and how they'll be treated - even months or years down the road.

Likewise I also have bidders who tell me they don't buy anywhere else, and bidders who tell me they only bid at MPB or Bruce, or bidders who only bid with MPB, Bruce and Heritage.
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on January 10, 2012, 05:26:15 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 10, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
Bruce has lots of bidders who do not buy posters anywhere else, largely because of "trust issues"
when they buy from Bruce, they know what they're getting and how they'll be treated - even months or years down the road.

Likewise I also have bidders who tell me they don't buy anywhere else, and bidders who tell me they only bid at MPB or Bruce, or bidders who only bid with MPB, Bruce and Heritage.

Understandable.  Frankly it works out fine for me, because I know where I can buy it from a reputable seller for cheaper price and I don't have to shell out any money right now because it will probably still be there months later.
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Post by: Bruce on January 11, 2012, 08:36:40 AM
An incredible "bad" poster that is hard not to love (plus I have never seen it before):

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2439707 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2439707)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/teenage_zombies_retitled_NZ04039_L.jpg)

Bruce
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on January 11, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
"weird terror cages"


The terror cages in my dungeon are quite ordinary, so I'd like to see this film for some ideas just so I can weird mine up a bit.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 11, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on January 11, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
The terror cages in my dungeon are quite ordinary, so I'd like to see this film for some ideas just so I can weird mine up a bit.

I guess you didn't walk into my warehouse last time you were Vegas, David.
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Post by: wonka on January 22, 2012, 03:37:47 PM
Obvious reprints, pretty easy to see, and the undersize measurements are even detailed.

For about $40 you can get better repros without all the dings and creases. People amaze me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-James-Bond-Original-Movie-Posters-Together-1-Lot-Roger-Moore-Ian-Fleming-/140680453794 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-James-Bond-Original-Movie-Posters-Together-1-Lot-Roger-Moore-Ian-Fleming-/140680453794)
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Post by: CSM on January 26, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
This seller actually advertises it for what it is and yet two bidders are going at it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KING-KONG-1933-Vintage-Movie-Poster-/300653251664?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5892661669013344284  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on January 26, 2012, 09:06:51 PM
Holy clueless buyers.

Those boys really need to visit their local APF before they take to bidding.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on January 27, 2012, 07:20:53 AM
Quote from: wonka on January 22, 2012, 03:37:47 PM
Obvious reprints, pretty easy to see, and the undersize measurements are even detailed.

For about $40 you can get better repros without all the dings and creases. People amaze me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-James-Bond-Original-Movie-Posters-Together-1-Lot-Roger-Moore-Ian-Fleming-/140680453794 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-James-Bond-Original-Movie-Posters-Together-1-Lot-Roger-Moore-Ian-Fleming-/140680453794)

He's selling more now - the other give away apart from the things you mention is the deliberate vague statement "blah blah blah, I have no experience of movie posters." - if he has no experience of movie posters, why advertise them as original in the title?!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140683880590?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
So I was eyeing a pair of Japanese B1s (from the same film) in Bruce's auction and was a bit worried over the weekend since Holiday made the initial bid; but now as I check and see T is in the mix, I begin to wonder if perhaps my pockets just aren't deep enough to win the fight.  And since I am not one to screw around and play games congrats T; I'll just have to admire your pics...  Shit.
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Post by: Charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
Strike that looks like T and Holidays pockets aren't deep enough either...  That Mark Lawd fella trumped at the last minute....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 08:54:09 PM
FUCK YOU  Cl442358!!!!!!!
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Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
Quote from: Charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
Strike that looks like T and Holidays pockets aren't deep enough either...  That Mark Lawd fella trumped at the last minute....

When marklawd starts, he never loses.
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Post by: bigmike on January 31, 2012, 08:57:08 PM
Ya, MARKLAWD!! Lets go.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 31, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Quote from: holiday on January 31, 2012, 08:54:09 PM
FUCK YOU  Cl442358!!!!!!!

Yow, that's a cool B1 but $420, 10 times as much as the US 1S????

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Melanch.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 31, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: holiday on January 31, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
When marklawd starts, he never loses.

+1 unfortunately.


Luckily, he is gracious in victory... he sent me a link to an eBay auction for a poster he outbid me on at eMovie.  I ended up getting it cheaper.  Thanks Mark  :D
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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 09:10:03 PM
Quote from: Charlie on January 31, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
Strike that looks like T and Holidays pockets aren't deep enough either...  That Mark Lawd fella trumped at the last minute....

All I really wanted in this auction was the Requiem for a Dream B1 and I got it.  The rest was pretty much an afterthought.  The question you have to ask yourself at some point is: "Will I be able to find this poster again at a cheaper price?"  When you buy as many posters as I do, one more or one less doesn't make much of a difference.  I always try very hard to resist Bruce's setup, which leads to bidding and overbidding and spending too much on a poster.  I would have like to own that Pearl Harbor, but I ultimately thought it went for too much.  Plus, I already have a B2.  Nothing to take out of Marklawd's win, but you have to set yourself mental limits.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 31, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Yow, that's a cool B1 but $420, 10 times as much as the US 1S????

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Melanch.jpg)

And this... is a bit ridiculous.

Sorry Ho.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 31, 2012, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: holiday on January 31, 2012, 08:55:15 PM
When marklawd starts, he never loses.

I beat him just 3 weeks ago on a poster for my collection.
nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 31, 2012, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 31, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
Yow, that's a cool B1 but $420, 10 times as much as the US 1S????

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Melanch.jpg)

Yeah, too close to the one sheet art(which I actually think is better, no cropping of Kirsten), I wanted the other style. Note to self, raise prices on remaining one-sheets.
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Post by: Bruce on January 31, 2012, 10:57:10 PM
"I always try very hard to resist Bruce's setup, which leads to bidding and overbidding and spending too much on a poster"

(http://troll.me/images/bert/resistance-is-futile-thumb.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:01:53 PM
 sm1

I knew you would pick on that line when I wrote it.  It's true, though.  Your setup is a pain in the ass.  I so want to play the game.

But I won't.

T
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Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:07:15 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 31, 2012, 09:39:36 PM
Yeah, too close to the one sheet art(which I actually think is better, no cropping of Kirsten), I wanted the other style. Note to self, raise prices on remaining one-sheets.

I don't know anyone, really, who loves Japanese B1's as much as I do.  I paid $25 for the US posters, and I don't think it's worth much more than that.  I also don't think the B1 for Melancholia is worth $420.  But, I really like the movie, and really love Japanese B1's, and you just never know if the damned thing is going to turn up again.

How many of you would pay large sums of money for some of the B1's in my collection that you haven't seen again?  E.g., No Country for Old Men.


It could be that another copy of the B1 shows up again, and that it goes for a lot less than what I paid.  That's the risk.  But for a situation like this with a movie I like and the fact that Japanese B1's can dry up overnight, I wouldn't take the risk of it not showing up again.

And, I keep saying, it's not about the money.  I'm happier to have spent the money and have the poster than to have to wait for another copy to come up, just be cause I don't want to spend that much.

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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:10:53 PM
I would love to get one for $20 and take a picture wiping my fat ass with it.

T
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Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:11:16 PM
Oh, and I got a bunch of other B1's for a song including those for Winter's Bone, another movie that I really like.  So, overall, I'm very pleased.

And, once again FUCK YOU Cl442358!!!!!!! for making me spend so fucking much.  This reminds me when anonymouse and rattler were pissing people off by bidding so much   :P
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Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:11:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:10:53 PM
I would love to get one for $20 and take a picture wiping my fat ass with it.

T

And I would love to wipe your fat ass.  I would only give up Melancholia for you, big boy.
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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
 sm1

BTW, Bruce, what is up with all these people registering on your site with letters and numbers?  I am Eatbrie, Holiday is Holiday, Matt is HarryCaul...  Why don't you force your clients to have a real name, so at least we know who they are.

T
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Post by: CSM on January 31, 2012, 11:15:11 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
sm1

BTW, Bruce, what is up with all these people registering on your site with letters and numbers?  I am Eatbrie, Holiday is Holiday, Matt is HarryCaul...  Why don't you force your clients to have a real name, so at least we know who they are.

T

I agree - but those are the system generated names.  I guess some people are very lazy?  Or maybe there more sinister motivations?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 31, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
oh yeah Thierry.. who am I???
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Post by: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 31, 2012, 11:15:48 PM
oh yeah Thierry.. who am I???

ResidentAss
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 31, 2012, 11:43:37 PM
Quote from: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
ResidentAss

that was the old i.d.
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Post by: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
JAWS1975!
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Post by: CSM on February 01, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
JAWS1975!

 ;D ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on February 01, 2012, 12:04:06 AM
BULLITT1968!
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Post by: Louie D. on February 01, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
Quote from: holiday on January 31, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
ResidentAss

I thought that was me???
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 31, 2012, 11:58:06 PM
JAWS1975!

nope.. I have no interest in collecting Steven Spielberg posters
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Post by: 110x75 on February 01, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 12:56:06 AM
nope.. I have no interest in collecting Steven Spielberg posters

Unless he decides to direct a Chandler adaptation?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 01, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
Unless he decides to direct a Chandler adaptation?

probably not his thing. Spielberg pretty much only makes message movies now. What would be the message from a Marlowe film?? People Suck??
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Post by: Bruce on February 01, 2012, 08:18:31 AM
A very high percentage never change their auto-generated names (the first two letters of their last name, plus 6 random numbers).

I once sent an e-mail to those people reminding them of how easy it is to change their ID (and giving them a link to the change page) but very few did, so I gave up.

It is especially frustrating because a huge percentage of the people who can't remember their ID and need to have it e-mailed to them (and they rarely can figure out how to do that themselves) are people with the auto-generated IDs (I suspect they are not very computer savvy).

Remember that all of you can change your ID as often as you like (especially if you suspect someone is targeting you), but very few people do that either.

Bruce
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Post by: holiday on February 01, 2012, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: Bruce on February 01, 2012, 08:18:31 AM

Remember that all of you can change your ID as often as you like (especially if you suspect someone is targeting you), but very few people do that either.

Bruce

I did for a while but then I was targeted by those hunting mice (anonymouse) and snakes (rattler).

Now, I'm out of the closet.
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Post by: eatbrie on February 01, 2012, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
probably not his thing. Spielberg pretty much only makes message movies now. What would be the message from a Marlowe film?? People Suck??

Who is Marlowe?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 01, 2012, 11:01:11 AM
Who is Marlowe?

and there folks is the oblivious mind forgetting what Richie collects

 :P
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Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2012, 03:34:18 PM
Just looking at the bulk lots closing on movieposterbid today.  I guess Rich is vindicated on going to the bulk lots as the current price on each of those is likely higher than what he would have gotten by selling them as individual titles.
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Post by: 50s on February 01, 2012, 03:54:30 PM
Not sure what Rich is doing as I don't visit MPB site much, but I remember hearing (maybe on Mopo?) that a sign of a hobby having less appeal is the occurrence of more bulk lots for sale. I wonder if this is happening? 

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Post by: Zorba on February 01, 2012, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 01, 2012, 03:54:30 PM
Not sure what Rich is doing as I don't visit MPB site much, but I remember hearing (maybe on Mopo?) that a sign of a hobby having less appeal is the occurrence of more bulk lots for sale. I wonder if this is happening? 

That would be a good thing for the guys who collect for fun.  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
my bulk lots represent the need to do 2 things:

1) clear out space faster.. My 2200 sqft warehouse is jam packed

and

2) eliminate lower value material so I can focus on better material & make more money per week because my costs only increase & the 2nd employee + the new postal rates are costing more!!
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Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2012, 06:33:33 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
my bulk lots represent the need to do 2 things:

1) clear out space faster.. My 2200 sqft warehouse is jam packed

and

2) eliminate lower value material so I can focus on better material & make more money per week because my costs only increase & the 2nd employee + the new postal rates are costing more!!

Yeah, I remember you saying that.  I didn't expect the3 bulk prices to go above what you would have gotten for the individual items.  That was the surprise to me.  The cards in these lots were $1-$2 sets (you said that).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 01, 2012, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 01, 2012, 06:33:33 PM
The cards in these lots were $1-$2 sets (you said that).

i said $1 or $2 cards and actually up to even $5

I need to eliminate the very cheap stuff.. I'm happy to let Bruce sell 16 trillion items under $5 every year.. I need to up the ante
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 05, 2012, 04:21:08 PM
I know everyone here wants this incredible rare Dark Knight item

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-Knight-Rises-Chip-/200710171272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebb422a88
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Post by: 110x75 on February 05, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljuypntelf1qj92txo1_250.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on February 06, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
I asked:

Quote
Dear coldloathing,

Hi, could you provide the original packaging that came with the chip?, thanks

- <me>


Reply:

Quote
Dear <me>,

You're asking if I still have the bag that the chip came out of?

Of course. . .It is an extremely important part of the package and will be thrown in for free.

. . .as soon as I get it out of my recycling bin.

- coldloathing



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Post by: CSM on February 06, 2012, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 06, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
I asked:


Reply:





 ;D
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 01:58:21 AM
Quote from: Bruce on February 01, 2012, 08:18:31 AM
A very high percentage never change their auto-generated names (the first two letters of their last name, plus 6 random numbers).

I once sent an e-mail to those people reminding them of how easy it is to change their ID (and giving them a link to the change page) but very few did, so I gave up.

It is especially frustrating because a huge percentage of the people who can't remember their ID and need to have it e-mailed to them (and they rarely can figure out how to do that themselves) are people with the auto-generated IDs (I suspect they are not very computer savvy).

Remember that all of you can change your ID as often as you like (especially if you suspect someone is targeting you), but very few people do that either.

Bruce

Bruce, my question is therefore: why are the names of the bidders not anonymous anyway, many of the major online auctions provide this (Heritage, eBay off the top of my head) - you've already said we can change our ID "...(especially if you suspect someone is targeting you)...". Seems to me anonymity would be better than constantly needing to change ones ID just to be able to be able to enjoy ones hobby on your site free from being targeted.
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Post by: 50s on February 07, 2012, 03:13:30 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 01:58:21 AM
Bruce, my question is therefore: why are the names of the bidders not anonymous anyway, many of the major online auctions provide this (Heritage, eBay off the top of my head) - you've already said we can change our ID "...(especially if you suspect someone is targeting you)...". Seems to me anonymity would be better than constantly needing to change ones ID just to be able to be able to enjoy ones hobby on your site free from being targeted.

Well there must be some benefits to emovie (my theories anyway):
- people can feel nice knowing they can choose their id to display
- people can show others they are bidding (why, I don't know, free advertising in return for bids?)
- people can see who might be bidding... if dave is interested in buying then I'll bid cause I can make a killing too

Disadvantages:
- It helps T to know not to bid if he sees someone he knows bidding on it
- People can know who bought what


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
I don't know why anyone cares if a username shows.
simply said, if you don't want people knowing your i.d., then don't post pictures of your wins until the auction is distant history, so people won't easily make that connection

aside from Marklawd, who knows my Bruce i.d. because I told him, and Sean because he's among my closest friends, can anyone here successfuly post my Bruce i.d.??

really.. anyone who can, post it.. go ahead. I won't care.
Sean and Marklawd excepted

just know that once it is posted here, I'll just change my i.d. and I don't care one wit if I am exposed. so go ahead. If you know my i.d. post it here
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2012, 06:46:34 AM
The biggest reason the set-up is as it is is because it is run by a third party (auctionanything.com) and we must play by their rules.

We can get them to make some changes (but not all) and we must pay a hefty fee each time we do, so we save that for things that seem truly important.

I think the current system works well, giving each user a lot of choices, but restricting each person to one ID.

The biggest difference between us and most other auctions is that we kick off bad bidders (the people, not the ID) so that we consistently collect from 99+% of the people (by dollar and by price) and therefore when you bid you know you are bidding against real bidders.

Bruce
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 07, 2012, 07:35:04 AM
I love a challenge.
First guess. HA268351
Stew
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Post by: jayn_j on February 07, 2012, 08:05:49 AM
I admit that I use bidding from certain dealers to help me figure out market value.  When they stop, I am in the ballpark.  In other cases, I may drop out early because I sense a bidding war (i.e. jaws1970) and concentrate on something else.  There is always something else  ;)
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 07, 2012, 09:26:13 AM
I like seeing who buys what. I wish you could search by id even to see the history of what they have been buying.
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Post by: CSM on February 07, 2012, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
aside from Marklawd, who knows my Bruce i.d. because I told him, and Sean because he's among my closest friends, can anyone here successfuly post my Bruce i.d.??


Better question - does anyone trully care?
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Post by: jayn_j on February 07, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
aside from Marklawd, who knows my Bruce i.d. because I told him, and Sean because he's among my closest friends, can anyone here successfuly post my Bruce i.d.??

Well, I bet Bruce can!  :P
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Post by: Silence on February 07, 2012, 11:16:25 AM
Is it Kingkarloff

Michael
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Michael is correct
does anyone else wish to guess??
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 07, 2012, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Michael is correct
does anyone else wish to guess??
Not if Michael already got it.

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on February 07, 2012, 01:21:52 PM
Not if Michael already got it.

Stew

okay.. how about what will it be tonight???

wynk
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Post by: stewart boyle on February 07, 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
okay.. how about what will it be tonight???

wynk

Make a bid,we are watching.. :-)
Stew
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2012, 06:46:34 AM
The biggest reason the set-up is as it is is because it is run by a third party (auctionanything.com) and we must play by their rules.
Bruce

Thanks Bruce - understand

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
I don't know why anyone cares if a username shows.

really.. anyone who can, post it.. go ahead. I won't care.

just know that once it is posted here, I'll just change my i.d. and I don't care one wit if I am exposed.

It seems to me you do care if people know your ID, because one the one hand say you don't care yet on the other hand you say as soon as you are 'exposed' you're going to change your ID.

But you are right - if one doesn't want people to know it then don't talk about what you won at Bruce's auction will simply fix that. Then again we all love to talk about our new possessions, don't we?

Personally I change my ID almost every auction. Do I care if I am 'exposed'? Yes I do. Frankly I want to be able to bid for something without somebody thinking what a great game it is to try bid me up, why can't I have that luxury? After-all I am bidding with my hard earned money.

The fact is I am not interested in knowing what yours or anyone else's ID is, if I lose or win in an auction against you it won't ever be because of knowing it was you. I also realise that others like to try and play the 'bid you up' game and that is a shame but that is the way some people are I guess and that is why I would prefer the anonymity of my name in emovie.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
Personally I change my ID almost every auction. Do I care if I am 'exposed'? Yes I do. Frankly I want to be able to bid for something without somebody thinking what a great game it is to try bid me up

paranoia
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:05:48 AM
just know that once it is posted here, I'll just change my i.d.

paranoia

 ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
I'm not afraid of anyone bidding me up.
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
I'm not afraid of anyone bidding me up.

That's great, so why bother to change your ID?

The reality is within 5 minutes of you changing your ID I could find out what it was (because it would take me 4 minutes to make a coffee) so changing it really doesn't afford you any level of anonymity anyway.

At the end of the day I asked a genuine question of Bruce, I got the answer. I am not expecting Bruce to change things, but at least I now understand the 'why' and I think I provided a fairly lucid reason for my preference. I understand others like you may not see it that way however I don't see it as paranoia as much as I see it as wanting to (a) be private about how I spend my money and (b) leave the bidding to be about the object rather than some personal agenda on the part of one of the bidders (not that I am suggesting there is).
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Post by: 110x75 on February 07, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
I'm not afraid of anyone bidding me up.

And once in a while, someone does...  ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 08:27:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
I'm not afraid of anyone bidding me up.

Quote from: 110x75 on February 07, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
And once in a while, someone does...  ;)

who cares. I'm still paying a price I'm willing to pay.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
There are some amazing Universal items, currently listed--all not restored or linen backed.  clap

Offered by the same seller, too (along with a selection of other great items).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-R1947-ORIG-COVETED-UNIVERSAL-1-SHEET-NO-REPAIRS-VG-FINE-COA-/330684025048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfe4dc8d8

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FRANKENSTEIN-R1947-ORIG-COVETED-UNIVERSAL-1-SHEET-NO-REPAIRS-VG-FINE-COA-/00/s/MTI4MFg5ODA=/$(KGrHqNHJ!8E8e0WdnwTBPMWcvGR8g~~60_3.JPG)



http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-DRACULA-1945-ORIG-UNIVERSAL-1-SHEET-NO-REPAIRS-VG-BETTER-COA-/330684007720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfe4d8528

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HOUSE-DRACULA-1945-ORIG-UNIVERSAL-1-SHEET-NO-REPAIRS-VG-BETTER-COA-/00/s/MTI4MFgxMDAz/$(KGrHqJHJBwE8fV-JT8yBPMV68zDyQ~~60_3.JPG)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-R1951-EX-RARE-REALART-INSERT-NO-REPAIRS-VERY-GOOD-COA-/380409619973?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58922e2605  

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FRANKENSTEIN-R1951-EX-RARE-REALART-INSERT-NO-REPAIRS-VERY-GOOD-COA-/00/s/MTI4MFg2MjA=/$(KGrHqFHJBsE8hZYiwKBBPMWtVF6gQ~~60_3.JPG)






Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 08, 2012, 04:02:00 PM
That's it!
I quit this friggin' hobby.
I hates bein' teased when I gots no money, honey!
 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2012, 05:05:56 PM
Ted- you can take just this one- currently open to all  ;):

It will only cost you 29,000 smacks:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Vintage-King-Kong-French-First-Edition-Poster-Extremely-Rare-/140661360284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c012069c

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-Vintage-King-Kong-French-First-Edition-Poster-Extremely-Rare-/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqMOKjsE6QcBRNy(BOwSWm14Ug~~60_3.JPG)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
And from the amazing vault of Benito-- for ISLAND OF LOST SOULS (1932):



http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISLAND-LOST-SOULS-LAUGHTON-1932-MOVIE-POSTER81-/150752049407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231985b8ff

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ISLAND-LOST-SOULS-LAUGHTON-1932-MOVIE-POSTER81-/00/s/NzI3WDU2Nw==/$(KGrHqN,!gsE8pHJOvzgBPLkFv)ijQ~~60_3.JPG)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 08, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
Oh my...they be way cool, indeed.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 08, 2012, 05:31:38 PM
My God it sucks that my account is linked to my wife's...

Or maybe it's a blessing.  I think I'd go broke in no time.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: DreamWarrior on February 08, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/132852530965.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 08, 2012, 09:18:10 PM
Fabulous posters but at such high starting prices ($16,000) they're not really being "auctioned."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 08, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
If I had posters like that I would be terrified to even unfold them to take a pic!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 08, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
Bought from that seller several times. Not the easiest guy to work with, fights for every penny, to say the least.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 09, 2012, 05:41:41 AM
Quote from: wonka on February 08, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
Bought from that seller several times. Not the easiest guy to work with, fights for every penny, to say the least.

If you're talking Benito, yes I found him quite inflexible too... 10% off is the best I could bargain... I walked away empty handed...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 09, 2012, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 09, 2012, 05:41:41 AM
If you're talking Benito, yes I found him quite inflexible too... 10% off is the best I could bargain... I walked away empty handed...

I was talking about museumofmomandpopculture, my bad. But since you mention it, yes, Benito borders on irrational in terms of working with customers, at least in my experiences with him.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on February 09, 2012, 11:32:51 AM
Does Benito ever sell anything?  His prices for stuff seems way over the top for me, although there are many things he has I would like to add to my collection.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
Am i missing something here?

$12,000.00. 

Heritage sold one in July 2011 for 3883.75, and that included the 19.5% buyers premium.

And shipping is an extra 130.00.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BARBARELLA-40x60-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1968-SIXTIES-/180447876659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a03881633

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BARBARELLA-40x60-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1968-SIXTIES-/22/!Bh9vo+gBmk~$(KGrHqMOKiEEslOYYzCeBLL7b2Jnpw~~_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on February 09, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
its DaveL's auction .. 'nuff said !! ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
people can ask whatever they want for their own items

what they do affects me not a wit
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 09, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
"what they do affects me not a wit"

Actually, that's not true. If you were offering that poster for $6,000, it would look like you were asking "half-price" which would greatly increase your chances of selling it.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on February 09, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 09, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
"what they do affects me not a wit"

Actually, that's not true. If you were offering that poster for $6,000, it would look like you were asking "half-price" which would greatly increase your chances of selling it.

Bruce

The opposite can also be true .. When I see a deal that appears to be too good to be true I may shy away from it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2012, 03:18:34 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 09, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
The opposite can also be true .. When I see a deal that appears to be too good to be true I may shy away from it.

is that why you haven't been bidding in my auctions the past couple weeks??

 nono
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 09, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
The opposite can also be true .. When I see a deal that appears to be too good to be true I may shy away from it.

So would you consider $6K a good deal for a Barbarella 40x60? (that's half price after all--- lol)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on February 09, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2012, 03:18:34 PM
is that why you haven't been bidding in my auctions the past couple weeks??

 nono

LOL .. Im trying to sell more than I buy at this point .. unless its something that I like from COD or Mondo then I have to try and buy it otherwise Ill just end up paying double or triple when I decide I cant live without it! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 09, 2012, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 03:34:36 PM
So would you consider $6K a good deal for a Barbarella 40x60? (that's half price after all--- lol)



Depends... if the buyer wants it now, then yes.  $6000 would probably make it the lowest price available.  If the seller is patient enough to wait months/years for it to come up for auction again, then no, $6000 is probably still too high.  Although the market could change for that poster while they are waiting as well...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 09, 2012, 03:49:34 PM
Depends... if the buyer wants it now, then yes.  $6000 would probably make it the lowest price available.  If the seller is patient enough to wait months/years for it to come up for auction again, then no, $6000 is probably still too high.  Although the market could change for that poster while they are waiting as well...

True. And considering the last one HA sold was only this past July, for 3884.00, these do appear and are not so rare as to have a span of many years go by before another one shows up on the market (of course, as always, condition must be taken into consideration).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
Speaking of discounts, here is one that has been slashed-- it's now been reduced by 25%!  Maybe if he sells a few more, he can afford a better camera and lighting setup to photograph these "high end" items.  laugh1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLASH-GORDONS-TRIP-MARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1938-CHAP-13-/220930400271?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33707a600f

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FLASH-GORDONS-TRIP-MARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1938-CHAP-13-/00/s/MjQwWDMyMA==/$(KGrHqN,!nUE63Tf6INKBPDgsR3Hug~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 09, 2012, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on February 09, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
Speaking of discounts, here is one that has been slashed-- it's now been reduced by 25%!   :P

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLASH-GORDONS-TRIP-MARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1938-CHAP-13-/220930400271?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33707a600f

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FLASH-GORDONS-TRIP-MARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1938-CHAP-13-/00/s/MjQwWDMyMA==/$(KGrHqN,!nUE63Tf6INKBPDgsR3Hug~~60_12.JPG)

Tloceposters...  nono
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 09, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
I'm disappointed.  Where are the 10 lb. paper weights? 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on February 09, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
Barbarella is paper backed, it must be shipped flat. It will actually probably cost more than $130.00 to ship it!

As for our price......we will get it (or close to it) eventually. 8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on February 09, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on February 09, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
Barbarella is paper backed, it must be shipped flat. It will actually probably cost more than $130.00 to ship it!

As for our price......we will get it (or close to it) eventually. 8)

Youre a jerk .. (only because im jealous :P)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 09, 2012, 11:35:57 PM
Does someone have a spare US $60,000.00?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140699666221&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140699666221&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en)

(http://posteritati.com/jpg/K/KING%20KONG%20ARG%2030s.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 10, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Does RKO not appear anywhere on that poster?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 08:21:32 AM
Quote from: Bruce on February 10, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Does RKO not appear anywhere on that poster?

Don't know Bruce... if someone has the amability to send me an original copy, I can look with a magnifying glass  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 10, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Great KONG....gotta check my Paypal...
Nope...I'm shy like $59,990...damn...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
Quote from: brude on February 10, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Great KONG....gotta check my Paypal...
Nope...I'm shy like $59,990...damn...

We should join forces Ted... we'll be like $59,970 short...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 10, 2012, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
We should join forces Ted... we'll be like $59,970 short...

 laugh1 We just need a few more losers and maybe we could raise $50-60 bucks as a down payment.  You think he'll hold it for us?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
Quote from: brude on February 10, 2012, 11:00:16 AM
You think he'll hold it for us?

Hey, in times were a Hanna & her sisters daybill goes for more than $ 200 anything can happen!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 10, 2012, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
We should join forces Ted... we'll be like $59,970 short...

I'm in...now, if there was 5,997 members in this forum...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 10, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 12:03:07 PM
Hey, in times were a Hanna & her sisters daybill goes for more than $ 200 anything can happen!  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 10, 2012, 01:42:44 PM
I'm in...now, if there was 5,997 members in this forum...

Ok, we have one more. The thing is how to split the poster once purchased...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on February 10, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
We all keep it for a month and then forward it to the next Fellow on the list..... I bags first Month... ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 02:37:24 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 10, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
We all keep it for a month and then forward it to the next Fellow on the list..... I bags first Month... ;D

That might work Paul. We're all friends, right?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jA4YXiXV6ks/TfjUOUwdkBI/AAAAAAAAAtE/4bepRObZiK0/s1600/bullet+10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 10, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 10, 2012, 02:13:42 PM
Ok, we have one more. The thing is how to split the poster once purchased...

Been a long time since I needed this sort of maths, but if I remember correctly (someone can help me here!)...I THINK it goes like this...assuming it's a 27 x 40 then the formula is 27/1 x 40/6000 = 27 x 0.0066 equals one piece each 0.1782" square.

I'm hopeful to get the one with the eye - I'll definitely frame it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on February 10, 2012, 02:41:55 PM
Ever see that Simpsons episode where Bart and friends buy Radioactive man no1..... :D

(why is there no Issue Key on a mac?)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 18, 2012, 12:15:13 AM
What happened to the set of 10 Harry Potter character posters in the Sunday auction?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: agentprovocateur on February 18, 2012, 07:57:51 AM
My fault Holiday, I emailed emovieposter about them and seem to have caused the cancellation of the auction! They said they'd intended to list them seperately and made a mistake listing them all together. Me and my big email mouth eyeroll

Apologies
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on February 18, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on February 18, 2012, 07:57:51 AM
My fault Holiday, I emailed emovieposter about them and seem to have caused the cancellation of the auction! They said they'd intended to list them seperately and made a mistake listing them all together. Me and my big email mouth eyeroll

Apologies

lol, that set was primed to go nuckinfuts tomorrow, probably a mistake changing it.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 18, 2012, 08:41:40 AM
Yes, we were set to e-mail the consignor to ask how he had obtained them, and we discovered he had asked for them to be auctioned separately, so we had to cancel them and they will appear in our next auction of 27x40s. I know it wasn't your intention, but thanks much for causing us to catch this serious error. I don't know if they will go for more or less separately, but we have to do it the way the consignor wants.

Incidentally, the consignor is an executive at Warner Bros, and he has now told us that he was told when he got these at work that they were made for the international release of the movie. but he doesn't know where (or if) they were used, and he doesn't know why some measure different, but they are absolutely authentic.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on February 18, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: holiday on February 18, 2012, 12:15:13 AM
What happened to the set of 10 Harry Potter character posters in the Sunday auction?

I missed seeing those. Which film(s) were they from please? Did anyone save pictures?

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: agentprovocateur on February 18, 2012, 10:11:46 AM
I didn't save the pictures and the listing's removed now, but you know all those dodgy reproduction character posters for 'Deathly Hallows 2' on ebay? The Weasley brothers, the Goblin/sword, Bellatrix Lestrange etc etc, that was them, emovieposter was consigned all 10 as Bruce mentioned above. I've never seen authentic versions of any of them, so coming from a WB executive they are very interesting!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 18, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
Wow, that was a clusterfuck.  AP manages to get them taken off the auction, because Bruce made a mistake in how they were listed, and the auction was NOT noted by Marklawd such that the posters WOULD have been obtainable.

NICE!

A little deflated, but no worse for the wear.  It happens!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 18, 2012, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on February 18, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
lol, that set was primed to go nuckinfuts tomorrow, probably a mistake changing it.



That's true. Talk about the calm before the storm!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 18, 2012, 05:01:36 PM
Seriously?? either for 15K?!   uhno

http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Rose-Mohamed-Abdel-Wahab-Egyptian-Arabic-Movie-Poster-Original-1934-/390138522091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad61169eb

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/White-Rose-Mohamed-Abdel-Wahab-Egyptian-Arabic-Movie-Poster-Original-1934-/12/!BilJGSwB2k~$(KGrHqUOKj8Esw5sK4EtBLP0PHh(b!~~_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6sht-Fatmah-Om-Kolsum-Egyptian-Movie-Billboard-40s-/390084633359?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad2db230f

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/6sht-Fatmah-Om-Kolsum-Egyptian-Movie-Billboard-40s-/15/!CCO,tIQBGk~$(KGrHqYOKjQE0jY20Vf7BNKecke4(w~~_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 18, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
Bullshit.  And, you get economy shipping for $25 after paying $15,000 for some ratty, tattered POS poster!  These people should be put out of business.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on February 26, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
Had to show this. It showed up in my saved searches.  Really?  The autos faded so you when over then again????

I have had to go over the autographs with blue sharpie texta because
the autographs had faded they were originally signed with a grey sharpie
texta.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260965799033&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 26, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 26, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
Had to show this. It showed up in my saved searches.  Really?  The autos faded so you when over then again????

I have had to go over the autographs with blue sharpie texta because
the autographs had faded they were originally signed with a grey sharpie
texta.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260965799033&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

hehe gives the word authentic a new meaning.

edit: OMG I just noticed he lives in this country - there goes the neighbourhood...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on February 26, 2012, 01:46:33 PM
You never know..this guy could be Australia's future preservation specialist... ;D

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on February 26, 2012, 01:50:56 PM
And he wants 725.US for this???

The tracing job over those autographs looks like someone with a bad case of the DT's had a go of it.   laugh1 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on February 26, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on February 26, 2012, 01:50:56 PM
And he wants 725.US for this???

The tracing job over those autographs looks like someone with a bad case of the DT's had a go of it.   laugh1 laugh1
All he had to do was go over the sigs with a carving knife....preserved forever,,problem solved...

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 27, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
I'm not sure where this goes but I randomly discovered a dealer who has a set of these Gangs of New York one sheet movie posters PLUS one set of 40x60 versions (the only one ever printed) that might be for sale or trade.  I'll put you in touch with him if interested.  (No, I'm not getting any commission or anything like that....)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Gangs.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on February 27, 2012, 10:25:06 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 27, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
I'm not sure where this goes but I randomly discovered a dealer who has a set of these Gangs of New York one sheet movie posters PLUS one set of 40x60 versions (the only one ever printed) that might be for sale or trade.  I'll put you in touch with him if interested.  (No, I'm not getting any commission or anything like that....)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Gangs.jpg)

Mods, please remove this post  ;)
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Post by: Bruce on February 29, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
The ultimate Natalie Portman poster??

It is nearly 4 FEET wide by nearly over 11 FEET high, so she is well over life sized!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2488785 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2488785)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/french_2p_attack_of_the_clones_NZ04440_L.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 29, 2012, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 29, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
The ultimate Natalie Portman poster??

It is nearly 4 FEET wide by nearly over 11 FEET high, so she is well over life sized!


Geeze, nice, but waaay big. 11ft tall? That makes that top about 5" away from a WHOLE lot of white tape.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 29, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
$215 at present, proving once again that horny bast@rds keep this hobby afloat....
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Post by: brude on February 29, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
What's with the holes in the groin?
Jedi's gettin' frisky?
Never noticed that before...
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Post by: Silhouette on February 29, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
Quote from: brude on February 29, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
What's with the holes in the groin?
Jedi's gettin' frisky?
Never noticed that before...

It's the magnets/weights. Told you you would go blind if you kept on...
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Post by: brude on February 29, 2012, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 29, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
It's the magnets/weights. Told you you would go blind if you kept on...

I see...a two sheeter of sorts.
You're right, I will go blind if I don't stop looking at all these women on posters....
Such fine thangs...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 29, 2012, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 29, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
You could tape it to the wall and make love to it after you don't seal the deal with the 24 year young girlie on the 2nd date...   :P

Man I never thought messing with Mel would be fun...  Make sure to tell me when to quit; especially if you start crying and all.  Don't want you running to the overlords...

Hey, my "love affair" with my Natalie Portman poster could never come close to your "love affairs" with your uber-nerdy Stargate posters  bed1
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Post by: Charlie on February 29, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 29, 2012, 10:38:39 PM
Hey, my "love affair" with my Natalie Portman poster could never come close to your "love affairs" with your uber-nerdy Stargate posters  bed1

Actually, have you been keeping track of my Black Swan collection?
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Post by: Charlie on February 29, 2012, 10:52:12 PM
Actually, I am thinking of moving on to Emily Blunt; you can have Natalie, but I think T had her first.

(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4300000/The-Time-Magazine-Feb-2009-emily-blunt-4379025-1200-1481.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on February 29, 2012, 11:04:35 PM


How about this nice French bus stop...

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Diorportman2.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie on February 29, 2012, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 29, 2012, 11:04:35 PM

How about this nice French bus stop...


I hate you!  Yeah... Emily who?  Nice T, very nice...
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Post by: eatbrie on February 29, 2012, 11:13:50 PM
I like Emily too...

(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Devilwearsprada.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Daninreallife.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Sunshinecleaning.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Wolfman1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Youngvictoria1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Youngvictoria2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Youngvictoria3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Youngvictoria4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Adjustmentbureau1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Adjustmentbureau2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Muppets1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Muppets2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Muppets3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Muppets4.jpg)

Yeah, she's in the Muppets!
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Post by: eatbrie on February 29, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
And another French bus stop I forgot I had...

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/YSLblunt.jpg)

T
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Post by: Der Januskopf on March 01, 2012, 01:54:31 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 29, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
You could tape it to the wall and make love to it after you don't seal the deal with the 24 year young girlie on the 2nd date...    :P

Man I never thought messing with Mel would be fun...  Make sure to tell me when to quit; especially if you start crying and all.  Don't want you running to the overlords...

 laugh1
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Post by: erik1925 on March 01, 2012, 04:02:07 PM
Yet another Portal up for auction, listed as an original. I wrote the seller, informing him or her. Will see if any reply is forthcoming.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251007929945

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-1941-HUMPHREY-BOGART-MALTESE-FALCON-MOVIE-PROPAGANDA-POSTER-/00/s/ODUzWDEyODA=/$(KGrHqV,!lcE8MfFpM,5BPTuekCD5w~~60_57.JPG)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/1/7/1/8/6/webimg/551434822_o.jpg)

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Post by: Silhouette on March 02, 2012, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 26, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
Had to show this. It showed up in my saved searches.  Really?  The autos faded so you when over then again????

I have had to go over the autographs with blue sharpie texta because
the autographs had faded they were originally signed with a grey sharpie
texta.


Follow up: Needing to show that just when you think the idiot gene pool is full with the last addition another one manages to squeeze right in alongside the previous.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260965799033&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123

Words fail me.

 :o
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Post by: erik1925 on March 02, 2012, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 02, 2012, 02:21:46 PM
Follow up: Needing to show that just when you think the idiot gene pool is full with the last addition another one manages to squeeze right in alongside the previous.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260965799033&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123

Words fail me.

 :o

And someone has actually put a bid in on this one?!?! jawdrop

Are they in for a shock.

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Post by: Charlie on March 02, 2012, 03:58:38 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 02, 2012, 02:21:46 PM
Follow up: Needing to show that just when you think the idiot gene pool is full with the last addition another one manages to squeeze right in alongside the previous.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260965799033&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123

Words fail me.

 :o

Notice he took off the part about going over the autos...
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Post by: Silhouette on March 02, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 02, 2012, 03:58:38 PM
Notice he took off the part about going over the autos...

Didn't notice that.

edit: Bugger that, I'm not sitting by watching some poor schmuck get screwed over, that's simply fraudulent. I've reported him/ the listing.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 02, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
I just noticed that, too. Without that information, this seller is totally scamming the bidder(s), since he (the bidder) and possible others now have no way of knowing that these sigs were traced over with a sharpie BY the seller. The photos make it pretty obvious but not everyone will notice that. The poster didnt sell last week with him being honest about what he did-- and now it has a bid with his dishonest description.

Just the fact that he removed and edited out that information is outright deception (non disclosure).  >:(



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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 02, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 29, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
The ultimate Natalie Portman poster??

It is nearly 4 FEET wide by nearly over 11 FEET high, so she is well over life sized!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2488785 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2488785)

Geez, "Grace Kelly" won it for $351.  Only person goofy enough on this board to have used that pseudonym :)
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Post by: Charlie on March 02, 2012, 08:55:48 PM
Allposterforum won something too; is Brian back?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
here's a poster for you horny bastards
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-4-X-6-ft-SEXY-AERIE-PUSH-UP-BRA-BUS-SHELTER-POSTER-/110835344183?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce4d2337 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-4-X-6-ft-SEXY-AERIE-PUSH-UP-BRA-BUS-SHELTER-POSTER-/110835344183?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce4d2337)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/hornybastrads.jpg)

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Post by: brude on March 03, 2012, 02:32:20 PM
Double whoa Boing boing...
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
She kinda looks like a mongrel
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2012, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 03, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
She kinda looks like a mongrel

I suggest you get yourself a new eyeglass prescription
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2012, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2012, 04:25:24 PM
I suggest you get yourself a new eyeglass prescription

I am just trying to impress the wife for that eventual time she reads through all my banal postings  ;)



But I still think she's got a less than feminine face with those prominent browridges and wideset eyes (the poster chick NOT you dear)
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Post by: Ari on March 03, 2012, 07:34:41 PM
I agree with Chris
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2012, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 03, 2012, 04:30:29 PM
But I still think she's got a less than feminine face with those prominent browridges and wideset eyes

yeah she is double-bag ugly isn't she???

 woohoo
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2012, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2012, 08:20:53 PM
yeah she is double-bag ugly isn't she???

 woohoo

Well one solution would be 2 bags over her head ;)
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Post by: Silhouette on March 04, 2012, 03:57:03 PM
Coyote Ugly: When you wake up in the morning with her lying on your arm and you realise now that you are sober how bad she really looks, then you chew off your arm so you don't wake her and can make a quiet getaway
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Post by: Charlie on March 06, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
He has relisted it... The Stargate signature poster...  Jerkwad!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Signed-Stargate-Poster-/260971991945?pt=AU_TelevisionMemorabilia&hash=item3cc3249389
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Post by: CSM on March 06, 2012, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 06, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
He has relisted it... The Stargate signature poster...  Jerkwad!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Signed-Stargate-Poster-/260971991945?pt=AU_TelevisionMemorabilia&hash=item3cc3249389

What happened to the bid that was placed on it in the other auction?
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Post by: CSM on March 06, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Oh wait - surprise, surprise a new bidder with 0 feedback won it  eyeroll

So many crooks it's amazing sometimes...
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Post by: Silhouette on March 06, 2012, 04:19:50 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 06, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
Oh wait - surprise, surprise a new bidder with 0 feedback won it  eyeroll

So many crooks it's amazing sometimes...

Oh well the moment someone bids on it I will report him, again.
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Post by: brude on March 06, 2012, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 06, 2012, 04:19:50 PM
Oh well the moment someone bids on it I will report him, again.

Report him now!  Report him now! Report him now!
Counterfeiting, non-disclosing, schill-bidding bastardo!
I'm done.
Thanks for letting me vent.

 cheers
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on March 08, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
"mongrel"....love those Aussie swear words ;D
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Post by: Bruce on March 08, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
I hope nobody finds this one!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_part_2_teaser_set_of_10_d_JC01545_L.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on March 08, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 08, 2012, 09:50:04 PM
I hope nobody finds this one!

Gawn, gizza hint...
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Post by: holiday on March 08, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
I think we should start a pool to see who can make the best guess as to the aggregate final price of all 10, like people try to guess the due date for new baby in the office.

Also, what's the best guess as to who will buy the most, if not all of, the 10?

Who wants to start us off?
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 09, 2012, 08:32:50 AM
Hmmm interesting... after no thought at all my guess is the total for all 10 will be around $720! Give or take a few 100 either way ;)

I'm going to see if I can bag one of these bad boys ;D
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Post by: Bruce on March 09, 2012, 08:36:42 AM
Has anyone here seen or heard of another one of any of these?

Bruce
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Post by: Charlie on March 09, 2012, 08:41:31 AM
I think with multiple heavy bidders these will sneak into the $150 -$200 each... I am thinking someone would spend two thousand on the set....  Unless Holiday can intimidate folks not to bid... 
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 09, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
They're dime a dozen Bruce... I can't get close to ebay without seeing hundreds of them ;)

You could be right Charlie, but don't forget us lightweight bidders as well :P

I posted these somewhere on here at the end of last year but can't seem to find where I did it! They're character posters for Prt.1 but all the versions I've seen are reprints/reproductions, all four are single sided, approx. 37.6" x 22.2" and have the white bands at the top and bottom (the printing is pin sharp and the paper seems to be normal coated poster paper). I haven't got a clue bout them as I've never heard of that poster size before, anyone know anything more or have one?

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/2HarryPotterandtheDeathlyHallowsPrt1allpostersonlinecomVoldemort-1.jpg)

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh164/ianeastdulwich/0HarryPotterandtheDeathlyHallowsPrt1allpostersonlinecomx4.jpg)

I call that a poor attempt at changing the subject ;D
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Post by: Charlie on March 09, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on March 09, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
You could be right Charlie, but don't forget us lightweight bidders as well :P

Well, as a lightweight myself, I have tried and failed all but one time going against Holiday. So good luck!
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 09, 2012, 09:46:29 AM
Haha duly noted Charlie... but I'd always be positive and say once is better than never!

I'm trying to hatch a cunning plan but whenever I do all I hear is Baldrick from Blackadder in my head, 'I have a cunning plan sir...'!!!!

I think I'm doomed mesmrized
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Post by: guest8 on March 09, 2012, 10:01:20 AM
Ive been waiting for these and I expect to be forced into bidding $300-400 each .. :(
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Post by: Zorba on March 09, 2012, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: Charlie on March 09, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
Well, as a lightweight myself, I have tried and failed all but one time going against Holiday. So good luck!

Every time I see that name I go and hide under my bed.  :P

Im not a big H. Potter guy and I only count eight of the "IT ALL ENDS NOW POSTERS" so I assume the ten includes the two HP7 posters.  I will say the set  goes for $2400
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 09, 2012, 11:42:17 PM
I would love to have the Potters, but it might take 2 grand to get the set, then you look at something like the signature auction coming the end of the month and what you could buy there for that money, makes no sense to me to put out that much money. If someone gets the first couple, they will not stop there, the set becomes a must have, so I am thinking each one get progressively more expensive until about half way through then the other bidders will be PO's they didnt get anything and will give up because Mark or Holiday, ur... I mean, some bidder is winning them all.

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Post by: Harry Caul on March 10, 2012, 12:02:03 AM
Actual, I bet each one will get progressively more expensive straight through to the end. You are correct that most bidders will drop out near the mid point.... but whoever ends up the loser between the top two bidders is going to make the other fucker pay handsomely! ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2012, 12:02:13 AM
Ok, as mentioned last month, I found a MOPO-listed dealer who has some of these rolled Quiet Earths in stock for $25. Both Ted and I have received the rolled 27x41 (although the ad says 27x40) from this seller and believe it to be original. Send me a PM and I'll pass on the tip, first come, first serve.  If you buy from them, please don't buy more than one so others can get them as well. I don't know how long the stock will last and of course I can't guarantee it is original. (Also mine has a minor stain on the lower right, so it's not minty-perfect anyway.)

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/Quiet%20Earth,%20The%20(1985%20SSR).jpg)

 
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 10, 2012, 10:24:51 AM
Has anyone ever seen one of these?

Return of the Jedi borderless style b international 1sh

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190650393625?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190650393625?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
It would be great if it weren't trimmed.  :'(
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Only kidding, Dave! Great find.

Bruce
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 10, 2012, 11:24:12 AM

Here is another one for you Bruce. A Jaws 30x40. From your records it looks like you haven't sold one in over eleven years.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190650947179 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/190650947179)
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2012, 12:06:55 PM
Do you have any other rarities up for auction you'd be willing to share?

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Bruce
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Post by: eatbrie on March 10, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Are you guys done yet?
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 10, 2012, 12:42:33 PM

I'm just gettin started!  :-* (just kidding)

I'm pretty sure everyone reading is already fully aware that we just listed 125+ new no reserve items on ebay.
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2012, 12:54:29 PM
Did you say 125?

And NO reserve?

 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1
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Post by: CSM on March 10, 2012, 01:03:40 PM
(http://cdn.whatanart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Carnival-Barker-500x500.jpg)
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Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
I only take notice if Mel posts current auctions.... ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 10, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
I only take notice if Mel posts current auctions.... ;)

I just can't help it Paul, because....

My intentions are good and earnest and true
But under my hood is internal combustion
And Satan is my motor....

Cake - Satan Is My Motor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrgQe7CL_cQ)

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Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
 laugh1

Nice one Mel....
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Post by: archie leach on March 10, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 10, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Are you guys done yet?

Seriously...  Why don't we just move this thread into the For Sale section...
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
Quote from: archie leach on March 10, 2012, 06:29:14 PM
Seriously...  Why don't we just move this thread into the For Sale section...

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2012, 07:09:11 PM
Quote from: brude on March 10, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
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Post by: Charlie on March 10, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2012, 12:54:29 PM
Did you say 125?

And NO reserve?

 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1 rofl1

Did I miss something?  It's a pretty good set list of titles...   
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Post by: holiday on March 10, 2012, 10:32:26 PM
I think the HP set will go for around 3000, as others have said. I'm not even going to try, because there's others here that are going to in more than I'm willing to.  I agree that those posters will never be worth that kind of money, and while I've been known to throw some big money around for a rarity, that's way out of my league on this set.

So, have fun boys!  I've got the popcorn ready!
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Post by: enki on March 10, 2012, 10:59:52 PM
I thought the Cinemasterpiece auction was supposed to have items listed on 3/8, 3/9 and 3/10? What happened with today's listings? It's 10:45PM ET and nothing yet.

Also, it seems like some of the items that have been put up are being graded a little......leniently... IMHO of course. Granted I'm a n00b, but this is just my observation.

I've purchased some "VG" items from EMP, where it looked more like a Near-Mint when I received them. It seems like Bruce grades items extremely conservatively, which I, as a buyer, definitely prefer.

But I saw a couple posters in the eBay auctions that had tears, holes, major wrinkles, major edge wear, etc. that were graded as C7 and even C8. I would think that missing paper would immediately disqualify a poster from "Excellent" condition, or am I wrong?

Some examples:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/REVENGE-OF-THE-JEDI-NO-RESERVE-CineMasterpieces-STAR-WARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1982-/190649194428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6393d7bc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-NO-RESERVE-BRITISH-QUAD-MOVIE-POSTER-1980-/180838099789?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1aca6b4d
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RETURN-OF-THE-JEDI-NO-RESERVE-CineMasterpieces-STAR-WARS-MOVIE-POSTER-1983-/180828478663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a1a379cc7

The actual descriptions of the items are certainly accurate, and the pictures clearly show any damage, but I would think that the "condition grade" should be lower in order to be more accurate. Are poster grading levels standardized or have any "official" metrics?

Don't get me wrong, I fully intend on bidding on a few of the items listed (actually I already have). I'm just kind of curious about the discrepancies in grades.
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Post by: Neo on March 10, 2012, 11:11:31 PM
Enki, grading is subjective.  Everyone has a different scale.  In my experience, among the high profile dealers: Dave, Bruce, and Rich, the gradings are very accurate and consistent.  The eBay items you mentioned appear to be accurate IMO.
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Post by: archie leach on March 11, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
Quote from: brude on March 10, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
*Brude still sulking in his ignorance*

 eyeroll

As always, first to the insult...
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 11, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
"What happened with today's listings?"

Nothing. We decided to move them to just Thursday and Friday this time. Sorry we kept you waiting  :-[
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Post by: enki on March 11, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on March 11, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
"What happened with today's listings?"

Nothing. We decided to move them to just Thursday and Friday this time. Sorry we kept you waiting  :-[

DAMN YOU!!@*!&@*!@

I've been sitting here pressing F5 for the past 14 hours. All for naught.
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Post by: brude on March 11, 2012, 12:11:18 PM
Quote from: archie leach on March 11, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
eyeroll

As always, first to the insult...

Childhood trauma: Why Leach is such a negative downer.

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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
With 12 days to go until the Heritage Auction, on March 23rd, here are the top 20 items, in descending order (as of today, 8 of the 20 are from the Berwick Find):

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Post by: brude on March 11, 2012, 08:16:22 PM
Nice job, Jeff-man...saved me time researching my status.
As of now, I'm still batting zero.
Looks like I'll have to up my bid on DRAC....
Look forward to another rundown in a few days.  thumbup

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Post by: Zorba on March 11, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Quote from: brude on March 11, 2012, 08:16:22 PM
Nice job, Jeff-man...saved me time researching my status.
As of now, I'm still batting zero.
Looks like I'll have to up my bid on DRAC....
Look forward to another rundown in a few days.  thumbup



Agree. Excellent work Jeff.

Though, I was hoping to make a run at the Casablanca.  :-\ :P
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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2012, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 11, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Agree. Excellent work Jeff.

Though, I was hoping to make a run at the Casablanca.  :-\ :P

Go for it Zorba! It's only money. ;D

Jeff
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Post by: Zorba on March 11, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 11, 2012, 08:25:15 PM
Go for it Zorba! It's only money. ;D

Jeff

I would but the fuckers in authority wont let me sell my spare kidney on ebay.

Seriously! It is my kidney, I dont need it and I have only one life to live.  8)
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Post by: CSM on March 11, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
Funny thing is Jeff - I bet most of those posters in the 20 haven't even reached the "hidden reserve" yet...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2012, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 11, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
Funny thing is Jeff - I bet most of those posters in the 20 haven't even reached the "hidden reserve" yet...

Right, Chris. Looks like any reserve info will be posted on 3/16.
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 11, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Not positive, but I don't think any of the Berwick posters have a reserve. 
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Post by: CSM on March 11, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 11, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Not positive, but I don't think any of the Berwick posters have a reserve. 

What makes you say that Matt?  Because HA seems to own at least a part of them?
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Post by: Ari on March 11, 2012, 09:45:32 PM
From what I gather from my experience with live auctions, they usually have, even if unwritten/unofficial a "reserve".
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 11, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
HA didn't purchase the posters, but I do think they helped with restoration.  The original buyer stands to profit the most here... granted HA will make plenty off of the auction itself.

Given that all 33 usable posters pulled from the lot are up for sale all at once, I think it is abundantly clear that the buyer is not a collector.  Otherwise we might only have ever seen or known about a handful of posters... the rest silently enter the buyers collection.  Like I said, I could be wrong, but these posters seem to have been bought by an investor interested in a quick flip.  Hence, I doubt there are any reserves.  
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Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 11, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
HA didn't purchase the posters, but I do think they helped with restoration.  The original buyer stands to profit the most here... granted HA will make plenty off of the auction itself.

Given that all 33 usable posters pulled from the lot are up for sale all at once, I think it is abundantly clear that the buyer is not a collector.  Otherwise we might only have ever seen or known about a handful of posters... the rest silently enter the buyers collection.  Like I said, I could be wrong, but these posters seem to have been bought by an investor interested in a quick flip.  Hence, I doubt there are any reserves.  


I was re-reading thru the Berwick thread, and found this post. Since discussion was had about the purchaser(s) of the posters and possible reserves:

Quote from: greysm on February 20, 2012, 07:28:13 PM

To clarify. I can say the posters were brought to us and we helped with the bill for purchase and restoration.








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Post by: jayn_j on March 12, 2012, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 11, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Not positive, but I don't think any of the Berwick posters have a reserve. 

The article I quoted from the gainseville paper this morning flat states that the reserve on the Dracula is $200k
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Post by: CSM on March 12, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 12, 2012, 01:49:52 PM

I was re-reading thru the Berwick thread, and found this post. Since discussion was had about the purchaser(s) of the posters and possible reserves:









Indeed Jeff.  This is why I posted what I did...
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 12, 2012, 03:14:08 PM
reposted from the other thread:

On the second page of "The Berwick Discovery" mini auction catalog from Heritage, the second to last paragraph starts out with "The story of the Berwick Discovery of Lost Movie Posters is far from over......".

Does this imply that there are more posters to come?
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Post by: brude on March 12, 2012, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on March 12, 2012, 03:14:08 PM
reposted from the other thread:

On the second page of "The Berwick Discovery" mini auction catalog from Heritage, the second to last paragraph starts out with "The story of the Berwick Discovery of Lost Movie Posters is far from over......".

Does this imply that there are more posters to come?

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Post by: holiday on March 14, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
I'm dropping some bids on the HP's just to have some fun.  Let me know if any of you have bids in right now, other than AP who I know is bidding, so that I don't be jerking around friends!
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 05:19:30 AM
It's starting to get busy on those Potters... a quick question tho, I got two 'out bid' notices for the two I'm bidding on, but when I went to emovieposter today I still see my monicker as winning with the same total. But when I click on each poster it shows the new high bidder and the correct total, anyone else have these discrepancies?
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Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 05:58:41 AM
I just woke up and saw this. Our auction host made a tiny technical change in the auctions in the middle of the night (they do it then so as to not affect auctions as they end), and that blocked our gallery from importing the latest prices.

I will get my tech guys to fix this, but it won't happen for around 4 hours from now, when they first get to work!

I apologize for this, and it IS very frustrating, but at least it will be fixed long before the auctions end.

For the record, here are the current prices of those Harry Potters:

2502983  8z001 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Daniel Radcliffe in title role!  9  $ 138.00
2502984  8z002 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Emma Watson as Hermione Granger!  4  $ 58.00
2502985  8z003 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Rupert Grint as Ron Weasley!  5  $ 46.00
2502986  8z004 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Ralph Fiennes as Lord Voldemort!  4  $ 61.00
2502987  8z005 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Alan Rickman as Severus Snape!  3  $ 58.00
2502988  8z006 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix!  6  $ 63.00
2502989  8z007 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Tom Felton as Draco Malfoy!  4  $ 46.00
2502990  8z008 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Matthew Lewis as Neville!  11  $ 191.00
2502991  8z009 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 directed by David Yates, The Twins!  4  $ 17.00
2502992  8z010 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Warwick Davis as Griphook!  5  $ 42.00
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 06:23:15 AM
Thanks Bruce, no worries, sounds like you've got everything well under control... seems like me and these posters don't get on well!
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Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 06:25:25 AM
I sense the work of Lord Voldemort in this!

Bruce
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 10:25:19 AM
;D
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Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
It is now fixed. Now we have to identify the exact problem and try to make certain it won't happen again!

I apologize for the inconvenience.

Bruce
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
You sure it's fully operational Bruce?

The ones I've re-bid on do show I'm the highest bidder but it's still showing an old price, then when you click on them they show the correct higher price!?
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
Ignore me... all cool now :P
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Post by: tstatum on March 15, 2012, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
You sure it's fully operational Bruce?

The ones I've re-bid on do show I'm the highest bidder but it's still showing an old price, then when you click on them they show the correct higher price!?
I noticed the same thing on probably the same poster  ;D
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
;D yep, same poster... although there's a new fiend getting in on the action now! mesmrized
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Post by: 110x75 on March 15, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
I'm so happy I don't collect modern posters!!!
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Post by: tstatum on March 15, 2012, 12:04:10 PM
 Well I'm out, I can already see this getting bat shit crazy before the night is over.
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on March 09, 2012, 08:32:50 AM
Hmmm interesting... after no thought at all my guess is the total for all 10 will be around $720! Give or take a few 100 either way ;)

I'm going to see if I can bag one of these bad boys ;D

Quote from: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 05:58:41 AM
I just woke up and saw this. Our auction host made a tiny technical change in the auctions in the middle of the night (they do it then so as to not affect auctions as they end), and that blocked our gallery from importing the latest prices.

I will get my tech guys to fix this, but it won't happen for around 4 hours from now, when they first get to work!

I apologize for this, and it IS very frustrating, but at least it will be fixed long before the auctions end.

For the record, here are the current prices of those Harry Potters:

2502983  8z001 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Daniel Radcliffe in title role!  9  $ 138.00
2502984  8z002 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Emma Watson as Hermione Granger!  4  $ 58.00
2502985  8z003 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Rupert Grint as Ron Weasley!  5  $ 46.00
2502986  8z004 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Ralph Fiennes as Lord Voldemort!  4  $ 61.00
2502987  8z005 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Alan Rickman as Severus Snape!  3  $ 58.00
2502988  8z006 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix!  6  $ 63.00
2502989  8z007 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Tom Felton as Draco Malfoy!  4  $ 46.00
2502990  8z008 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Matthew Lewis as Neville!  11  $ 191.00
2502991  8z009 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 directed by David Yates, The Twins!  4  $ 17.00
2502992  8z010 HARRY POTTER & THE DEATHLY HALLOWS: PART 2 teaser 1sh '11 Warwick Davis as Griphook!  5  $ 42.00

Well my estimate for how much they'd all go for was well out... the prices Bruce quoted this morning were exactly my ending total, $720!
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Post by: joneyyy on March 15, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
$720!

 puke
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Post by: agentprovocateur on March 15, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
Exactly spew
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 12:33:47 PM
Just checked Bruce's auctions and saw Dale and Holiday's names attached to these...   wow1

Really?

Why?

T
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Post by: paul waines on March 15, 2012, 12:34:06 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on March 15, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
I'm so happy I don't collect modern posters!!!


 happy1 You and Me both...
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
Just read this on Bruce's auction: They were consigned to us by a Warner Bros executive who tells us he was told that they were created "for foreign distribution", but he doesn't know where (or if) they were actually distributed.

So Bruce heard from a guy who heard from a guy but at the end of the day the first guy admits he really doesn't know anything.  Btw, if you already work at a studio, it takes 1 phone call (maybe 2) to distribution to find out what the posters are.

And two of our most refined collectors of modern posters are fighting over it.

Sorry guys, but it's my turn to say I'm sorry.

T
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 15, 2012, 12:47:04 PM
Rule number #1, if you have never seen something before, buy it.

Now, I am not going to go crazy as I am not really much of a Potter fan, but making a small push due to this rule.

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Post by: paul waines on March 15, 2012, 12:51:19 PM
I think Holiday has a duel ID, and he's just throwing people off the scent of what he's really after.... ;)
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Post by: brude on March 15, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on March 15, 2012, 12:47:04 PM
Rule number #1, if you have never seen something before, buy it.


Good rule here.
All you newbs take heed.
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on March 15, 2012, 12:47:04 PM
Rule number #1, if you have never seen something before, buy it.

Now, I am not going to go crazy as I am not really much of a Potter fan, but making a small push due to this rule.



I don't like the guy who heard from a guy...  It doesn't spell authenticity to me.  Some of those posters were made into bus stops.  Of course, it is possible that they did a print run just to see what they looked like, and then decided to stick to the bus stops.  But so what?  If this is true, they're just printouts made internally...  printouts that were eventually discarded.  Studios have tons of this shit.  Boatloads.  Sure, they could be fun for a Potter fan, but to spend that much money on them is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by: Zorba on March 15, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
I like to watch, eve.     pcorn
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Post by: brude on March 15, 2012, 12:59:05 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 15, 2012, 12:56:27 PM
I like to watch, eve.     pcorn

Me too.  Should be a dogfight....

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmgy48xPIN1qe0eclo1_r1_500.gif)
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: brude on March 15, 2012, 12:59:05 PM
Me too.  Should be a dogfight....

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmgy48xPIN1qe0eclo1_r1_500.gif)

I'd like to see a screwdriver come out of that hole and poke the eye until blood streams out.  That's exactly how I feel about this auction.

T
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Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
The consignor IS a Warner Bros exec and I know him personally. He saw them there, asked if he could have them and was given them. He asked what they were for and was told they were "for foreign distribution". That isn't THAT mysterious!

You make it sound like they were found by a guy who said they fell off the back of a truck!

Bruce
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Post by: brude on March 15, 2012, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
I'd like to see a screwdriver come out of that hole and poke the eye until blood streams out.  That's exactly how I feel about this auction.


Whoaaaa....that's mighty harsh Thierry.
Maybe we should talk about these deep-seated, eye-poking thoughts...

                                                          (http://i54.tinypic.com/2nh3kw5.gif)
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
The consignor IS a Warner Bros exec and I know him personally. He saw them there, asked if he could have them and was given them. He asked what they were for and was told they were "for foreign distribution". That isn't THAT mysterious!

You make it sound like they were found by a guy who said they fell off the back of a truck!

Bruce

Then he should be able to tell you exactly what they are, Bruce.  It's really not THAT hard.  I know a couple people in distribution at WB.  I could probably ask them, but I'm afraid the answer would come after the sale.  These people never understand why this is worth anything to anyone.  Like I said, they print tons of this stuff internally and trash it afterward for legal issues.  I've seen tons of mockups and printouts discarded at DreamWorks.  I have a few, traded a bunch to Holiday way back when...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: brude on March 15, 2012, 01:10:52 PM
Whoaaaa....that's mighty harsh Thierry.
Maybe we should talk about these deep-seated, eye-poking thoughts...

                                                          (http://i54.tinypic.com/2nh3kw5.gif)


One of my favorite scenes.  AWESOME!!!!
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:27:11 PM
Okay, I emailed them both.  We'll see what they say.

T
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Post by: Neo on March 15, 2012, 01:31:48 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 01:15:06 PM

Like I said, they print tons of this stuff internally and trash it afterward for legal issues.  


Just goes to show that everyone has a different idea of what is cool and/or collectible.  I can think of a few reasons why people would think these are one or both - different art (than the one sheets) in a one sheet size, provenance, rarity.
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Post by: Charlie on March 15, 2012, 01:36:26 PM
Quote from: brude on March 15, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
Good rule here.
All you newbs take heed.

Watch out for those commercial prints though...  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 15, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 15, 2012, 12:34:06 PM

 happy1 You and Me both...

You and Paul and Me ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 15, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 15, 2012, 12:51:19 PM
I think Holiday has a duel ID, and he's just throwing people off the scent of what he's really after.... ;)

Ah, that would be a good one!  But, I don't.  It would be too easy to link it later when I posted new acquisitions to my site, especially with posters like these that are not seen often (or at all).
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Post by: holiday on March 15, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
Not as crazy as I thought it would be on those HP's.  I wonder why?
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 15, 2012, 08:14:25 PM
I was intending to bow out, thinking I would like to see the whole set go to one person. Mark if you want the one I won for my high bid it is yours.

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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 08:18:12 PM
I think, at the very least, they should all go to the same person.
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 08:20:59 PM
Quote from: holiday on March 15, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
Not as crazy as I thought it would be on those HP's.  I wonder why?

Because you stopped bidding.  The deep pocket people are either you or Mark.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 15, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on March 15, 2012, 08:14:25 PM
I was intending to bow out, thinking I would like to see the whole set go to one person. Mark if you want the one I one for my high bid it is yours.


He only picked up two as it is. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 15, 2012, 08:23:19 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 08:20:59 PM
Because you stopped bidding.  The deep pocket people are either you or Mark.

T

Maybe you're right.  They just didn't excite me that much when I considered it.  I got the two full-sized versions and I'm happy.

By the way, Bruce, if these posters came from an exec, why were they listed as "vintage theater-used"?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on March 15, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
I would have liked the whole eight poster set - I don't include the two posters Holiday won as they were different styles - but following the pre-auction hype I thought this would work out too expensive and didn't consider that option further. I wanted at least one poster and the only logical one was the Harry Potter style, which I correctly anticipated would be the most expensive. I placed late bids on this, once I was satisfied that no one was seeking to obtain the set and drive up the price. As prices were lower than expected the next two obvious styles to go for were Hermione and Ron.

Thank you for the offer Dale - I would accept if there was a probability I could obtain the remaining four styles as well but as there is not I will be content with my collection of three. With the benefit of hindsight I think Bruce may have achieved a higher price if he had sold these as one lot - I would have been prepared to bid more than the total price achieved to have the certainty of a set.

Mark
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Post by: eatbrie on March 15, 2012, 09:49:15 PM
Holiday and I had a long talk about these this morning.  I don't think he really wanted them.  On my end, through my WB inquiry this morning (still waiting for answers), I'm trying to see if there is another set over there for free.  I doubt there is, but I know I won't pay for those.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Freefall on March 15, 2012, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: holiday on March 15, 2012, 08:23:19 PM
Maybe you're right.  They just didn't excite me that much when I considered it.  I got the two full-sized versions and I'm happy.

By the way, Bruce, if these posters came from an exec, why were they listed as "vintage theater-used"?

Thanks for driving my Neville Longbottom poster to 191.00!  ;D

He is my favorite character along with the twins but I had to choose one because of budgetary concern. But if you would consider letting the twins go to me... ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
On the "theater-used" part, we explain that all posters we describe that way were either printed used in theaters or were printed for theater use (as opposed to any kind of repro or commercial poster). There would be no way to determine if an excellent condition poster WAS used in a theater (and of course, anyone could make one appear as if it had).

On the set, Mark, I agree that in a dishonest auction, you would have surely paid more, because once you entered that higher amount the auction house would have mysteriously found an underbidder to make you pay near your maximum.

But had WE listed them as a set, there would have had to have been someone who was bidding over $1,000 for the set against you, and given that NO ONE (including yourself) made the effort to try to get them all, I think that is very unlikely (but of course, no one knows).

On whether they are a good buy or not, it is the same as with all rarities. If bunches more turn up, of course they will go for less. But if the others were trashed, then I believe these will later re-sell much higher. Time will tell.

On the prices, they seem good for year old posters. You guys created the $300 per poster expectation out of thin air.

Myself, I think the first one sold too low! Mark, if you want, I will give you $400 for it tonight (and I will give it to a supremely dedicated HP fan), The offer is only good for tonight, because tomorrow I may be able to get it from Thierry for $10!

Bruce
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Post by: marklawd on March 15, 2012, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 15, 2012, 10:13:37 PM

..........Myself, I think the first one sold too low! Mark, if you want, I will give you $400 for it tonight (and I will give it to a supremely dedicated HP fan), The offer is only good for tonight, because tomorrow I may be able to get it from Thierry for $10!

Bruce

I'll pass on that offer Bruce! I predict in 15 - 20 years that one in particular will be a very sought after and valuable poster.

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 15, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Probably right on the value, but the smaller sizes of the 8 did put me off a bit.  My best estimate is that they were printer proofs, or some other form of proof of art being considered.  If all 10 were full size onesheets, I probably would have broken the bank to get them all.  But, alas, I did not have to do that.

I do agree with Mark that the whole set likely would have brought in more together than separately. But, this is all speculation of course.  I'm happy with my two, Mark is happy with his.  All is well in the world.

Thanks for the clarification Bruce.  I was just curious about the nomenclature.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: agentprovocateur on March 16, 2012, 06:27:04 AM
Well that was interesting, my first time seeing a couple of auctions to the end, and winning my first poster off Bruce (Snape version)!

As mentioned before if the set had been sold together they'd probably have gone for more, but when it transpired they were going to be auctioned individually I thought there'd be a chance (if I chose carefully) of me winning a couple. My cunning calculation was that most people would pick one, two or three posters to have a tilt at, maybe someone would go for the whole set but then they'd be stretched quite thin. There were the four primary styles (Harry, Voldemort, Hermione and Ron) that I thought would be the most expensive, then the secondary styles (Snape, Bellatrix, Neville and Draco) and finally the two full sized one sheets (Twins and Griphook).

As people have probably seen I've collected a few Potter posters recently so I thought I'd put a couple of good first bids in on Hermione and Snape to let other bidders know I was going for them (and nothing else). I had set myself a maximum amount I wanted to spread across both posters, but my serious target was the Hermione style, unfortunately I got things a bit wrong and no one out bid me on the Snape when it reached my maximum of $100! That meant I only had a small amount to play with to recapture the Hermione one, I did it in the last 5 minutes (and thought there was a chance!) but then I saw Mark had outbid me, doh! A quick scan showed me he'd gone over $300 for Harry, bagged Ron cheap so knew he was serious about getting the three main characters. My pot was empty and knowing Mark probably had some in reserve I backed away sharpish happy with winning the Snape version.

As for provenance, rarity and paying too much I think the final amount for all 12 was $1,123 (if my maths is correct) averaging out at just over $110 per poster. Not too ludicrous in my book. Others may turn up making the prices cheaper but if you're not planning on selling in the near future I agree with Mark, in the long run specific Potter posters from certain films will ultimately be quite collectible and sought after.

Just my 2 penneth worth... great fun tho and I must remember not to drink so much before the auctions end at midnight! ;D
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Post by: Tob on March 16, 2012, 09:05:39 AM
^ha ha, sounds a good adventure AP! I remember my first bid in a Bruce auction - I accidentally bid on the incorrect poster (a single sided version instead of the double sided version listed next to it)...I was pretty annoyed, but then someone out bid me a few moments later...phew!

I can't stay up until the end of Bruce's midweek auctions due to the timezone differences and having a wife and small baby, so I normally plop my bid in around midnight and go to bed. I've quite often woken up at 4am to do a subtle check of my email on my phone to see if I have won anything though. My subconcious excitement about posters must wake me as I normally always sleep right through unless I have popped a bid in on something ha ha :)

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Post by: tstatum on March 16, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
I had planned to go after 3 of the "lesser" character poster,  but a couple of hours before the bid I Recieved the bad news that what I thought would be a 200 dollar hvac repair had ballooned into a 1200 dollar job.  Needless to say I'm happy with the one I got.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: agentprovocateur on March 16, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
Cheers Tob, was great fun, If I'd just dropped my bids and gone to sleep I think I'd have done the same thing bed1

Good work tstatum, damn those unexpected bills tho, it looks like all but one of those posters went to people I recognise on here.

Think I better shift over to the post auction analysis thread now...

Still hyped about getting one ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 16, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
what the ????

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tales-of-Terror-Vincent-Price-1962-one-sheet-27x41-/370593299974?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564914fe06
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 16, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
what the ????

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tales-of-Terror-Vincent-Price-1962-one-sheet-27x41-/370593299974?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564914fe06

Shilltastic or just tardtastic?
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 16, 2012, 11:31:50 PM
Shill.  Other than the first bid, the other 37 are all by the same two bidders... most just increments to their own bids.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 16, 2012, 11:36:18 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 16, 2012, 11:31:50 PM
Shill.  Other than the first bid, the other 37 are all by the same two bidders... most just increments to their own bids.

normally I agree Harry, except this guy does sell paper and for fair prices, so he isn't likely to be a shill leader..

so the liley answer is more tardtastic than shilltastic in this particular case
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2012, 11:45:31 PM
Rich, for some reason, you agreeing with my "tardtastic" estimation makes me  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 17, 2012, 12:01:32 AM
s***l raised their bid 28 times (!) before someone bid against them!  That would be tough to chalk up to stupidity alone...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 19, 2012, 12:00:11 AM
Tempted...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Natalie-Portman-Padme-Star-Wars-Episode-I-Diet-Pepsi-Can-c-1999-No-18-/370561382633?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56472df8e9
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 21, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 11, 2012, 05:58:32 PM
The original BIN listed for this original French KONG poster was $29,000.00 (with a Best Offer option included). The seller took a best offer of $10,500.00  :o

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-Vintage-King-Kong-French-First-Edition-Poster-Extremely-Rare-/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqMOKjsE6QcBRNy(BOwSWm14Ug~~60_57.JPG)





Looks like the previous best offer of $10,500.00 must have fallen thru, as French KONG is back and listed once again with a BIN of $29K (OBO).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Vintage-King-Kong-French-First-Edition-Poster-Extremely-Rare-/130663759419?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6c2abe3b



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 21, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Perhaps no surprise there Jeff.  Accepting a buy it now at 1/3 just seemed odd ;)
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Post by: Bruce on March 21, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Maybe they have two (or more) of them.

Bruce
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Post by: erik1925 on March 21, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
At least this Portal copy is all in one piece:  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Humprey-Bogart-Poster-All-Through-the-Night-1941-/270939607278?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f154250ee

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Humprey-Bogart-Poster-All-Through-Night-1941-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqNHJF!E88evolLyBP,K8SnEy!~~60_1.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Humprey-Bogart-Poster-All-Through-Night-1941-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJ!wE8+04si1UBP,K8mHww!~~60_1.JPG)

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Post by: 50s on March 21, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 21, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
Looks like the previous best offer of $10,500.00 must have fallen thru, as French KONG is back and listed once again with a BIN of $29K (OBO).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Vintage-King-Kong-French-First-Edition-Poster-Extremely-Rare-/130663759419?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6c2abe3b


Buyer probably realised there was a pubic hair stuck on the poster (mid right border)

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Post by: CSM on March 21, 2012, 06:40:23 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 21, 2012, 05:17:14 PM

Buyer probably realised there was a pubic hair stuck on the poster (mid right border)



Nah I bet the seller did and wanted more $$$ ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 22, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-REVENGE-OF-THE-JEDI-RARE-MOVIE-POSTER-WOW-/310388064298?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484492002a

I LOL'd.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2012, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: enki on March 22, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-REVENGE-OF-THE-JEDI-RARE-MOVIE-POSTER-WOW-/310388064298?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484492002a

I LOL'd.

And it's not even a poster being offered by mrs_miniver, at that price...lol

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 22, 2012, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: enki on March 22, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-REVENGE-OF-THE-JEDI-RARE-MOVIE-POSTER-WOW-/310388064298?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484492002a

I LOL'd.

As the seller says:
"Star Wars Collectors, Fans and High Roller Collectible Investors the rarest of the rare REVENGE OF THE JEDI Movie Poster. One of the most valuable movie posters on this planet or in any galaxy far, far away."

Jeezum crow....'rarest of the rare'?
I shoulda knowed better when I sold one for $20...  hitself
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Post by: enki on March 22, 2012, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: brude on March 22, 2012, 01:05:45 PM
As the seller says:
"Star Wars Collectors, Fans and High Roller Collectible Investors the rarest of the rare REVENGE OF THE JEDI Movie Poster. One of the most valuable movie posters on this planet or in any galaxy far, far away."

Jeezum crow....'rarest of the rare'?
I shoulda knowed better when I sold one for $20...  hitself


Coincidentally, I just picked one a couple weeks ago for about $20.

Tell you what - when I sell mine for $5000, I'll split the profit with you.
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Post by: crowzilla on March 22, 2012, 01:24:16 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 17, 2012, 12:01:32 AM
s***l raised their bid 28 times (!) before someone bid against them!  That would be tough to chalk up to stupidity alone...


Not correct. the r***9 bidder first bid on March 12, then on the 16th the S***l bid a bunch of times trying to outbid him/her.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2012, 02:23:28 PM
Speaking of Swedish horror posters:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-INVISIBLE-MAN-WILLIAM-JAMES-WHALE-1933-FUCHS-MOVIE-POSTER-90-/140714871449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c3428a99

It Can be yours-- for $11,200.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INVISIBLE-MAN-WILLIAM-JAMES-WHALE-1933-FUCHS-MOVIE-POSTER-90-/00/s/ODE3WDU2Nw==/$(KGrHqN,!psE8WNYtsF9BPUN!eBeEw~~60_57.JPG)

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Post by: Charlie on March 22, 2012, 03:22:31 PM
Hey, my poster dealer (aka "crack dealer") here in Houston is in the hospital and his daughter has had to put some rare stuff up for sale.  Check it out...  It would help him out.  I found him through ebay and he's been solid for more than a year... 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/letsbefly/m.html?item=110846804324&frommaketrack=true&viewitem=&sspagename=VIP%3Awatchlink%3Atop%3Aen&_trksid=p4340.l2562
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Post by: wonka on March 22, 2012, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 16, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Shilltastic or just tardtastic?

I got mine for under $30.

Find me the under bidder for me... he can have it for his bid.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2012, 01:35:24 PM
For anyone that missed out on the beautiful OS for STORMY WEATHER that sold this past weekend at Heritage, for $4780.00, the 'respected' tloce has a copy of his own up for sale. And with a BIN price of only $27,000.00!  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STORMY-WEATHER-MOVIE-POSTER-43-LENA-HORNE-SUPER-/320207137534?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a8dd52afe

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STORMY-WEATHER-MOVIE-POSTER-43-LENA-HORNE-SUPER-/24/!B67e)+!B2k~$(KGrHqYOKooEy+jC0Nw2BMyvqDUKiQ~~-1_1.JPG)

Take note, too, of his CFTBL poster, leaning to the immediate right of Lena.

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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on March 26, 2012, 01:47:25 PM
yes tloce is famous for his copies
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Post by: enki on March 26, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
So...
I was just browsing eBay looking for some good finds. I came across this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-STAR-WARS-Movie-Theater-Poster-14x36-Rolled-/400287234411?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d32fa796b

As they normally sell for about twice this price, I thought I might have found a good deal. It seemed like it might be a little too good to be true though, so I did a quick APF search for the seller's eBay name. Suffice it to say, I found a few threads where he was listed as a SELLER TO AVOID for selling fakes and generally being a douche bag.

It turns out he's also used the same pictures to sell at least three of the same poster in the past:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=star+wars+original+rolled&_sacat=0&_odkw=star+wars&_osacat=0&LH_Complete=1&_ssn=rokmodataol

Damn scammers. I can't believe this guy has 100% positive feedback.
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Post by: CSM on March 26, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
Yep - VERY good chance that insert is one of the infamous minty whites...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 26, 2012, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: enki on March 26, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Damn scammers. I can't believe this guy has 100% positive feedback.

If I weren't chronically broke due to poster spending - actually chronically broke and in moderate debt - I'd file class action lawsuits against all these con artist eBay dealers like tloce and this joker.  I figure it would take $10,000 to finance the case since they've got $$ to defend themselves from all their years of conning newbies, but they would crack during discovery.  A few interrogatories like "please identify your suppliers" and "provide all documents proving the source of these posters" and a few depositions....
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Post by: Ari on March 27, 2012, 12:10:09 AM
you realise we aren't supposed to own movie posters right?
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Post by: enki on March 27, 2012, 12:16:56 AM
Pfft.

Next thing you'll say is that it's illegal to download movies.
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Post by: Ari on March 27, 2012, 12:27:47 AM
 :D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 07:53:39 AM
Of course you can own movie posters under the first sale doctrine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine) under US law.  You can also sue any dealer who misrepresents the originality of a movie poster.  Those issues are not impediments to taking out the tloces of the world....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on March 27, 2012, 09:45:14 AM
Mel,

The issue with first sale doctrine as it relates to new posters, the studios claim at NO point are the posters ever legally sold, and if any theaters paid for posters to use at the theater, that was basically a rental fee and at no point was ownership transferred. If you could put a case together proving other wise, I would absolutely love to shove it as far up Fox's hole as possible.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 09:56:46 AM
I've read the pleadings in Disney's lawsuit against MovieGoods. MovieGoods claimed it was lawfully selling original posters per the first sale doctrine. Disney never contested that MovieGoods had the right to sell original posters per the first sale doctrine. Disney only contested the sale of reproductions. They settled the case. MovieGoods agreed not to sell unlicensed repros of Disney's posters but the settlement did not limit the sale of original posters.

That case is significant because it's perhaps the only reported case where a studio directly asserted its rights with respect to movie posters. (Fox was also a plaintiff in that lawsuit).
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Post by: enki on March 27, 2012, 10:05:34 AM
Aren't the pre-1990 posters technically owned by National Screen Service, a now defunct company?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 10:18:56 AM
Quote from: enki on March 27, 2012, 10:05:34 AM
Aren't the pre-1990 posters technically owned by National Screen Service, a now defunct company?

Yes NSS originally owned the posters but per the first sale doctrine any ownership rights extinguished once they were sold by theater employees or poster distributors to collectors or dealers.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on March 27, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 09:56:46 AM
I've read the pleadings in Disney's lawsuit against MovieGoods. MovieGoods claimed it was lawfully selling original posters per the first sale doctrine. Disney never contested that MovieGoods had the right to sell original posters per the first sale doctrine. Disney only contested the sale of reproductions. They settled the case. MovieGoods agreed not to sell unlicensed repros of Disney's posters but the settlement did not limit the sale of original posters.

That case is significant because it's perhaps the only reported case where a studio directly asserted its rights with respect to movie posters. (Fox was also a plaintiff in that lawsuit).

This is interesting, I never followed up to see the case outcome. The problem I forsee if at some point if pushed you have to reveal a source who had authorization to sell.

Would a receipt from a seller and a referal to:

 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

Case No. CV09-4968 SJO

be enough to get them to layoff.
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 27, 2012, 10:24:48 AM
I am going to send a mail to fox's ip team to see what they have to say  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
Dale because you a dealer your legal concerns are different from those of a downstream collector who is several times removed from the original transfer of the posters. Clearly collectors can sue a dealer who knowingly misrepresents a poster as an original when that dealer knows it is a reprint or bootleg.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on March 27, 2012, 10:42:09 AM
I agree Mel, I have been laying low on Fox for years now and only putting up one or 2 after a film releases, then they hit me on Titanic last month which is a co-production with Paramount and I believe they only have influence in the foreign market in I remember correctly?. Infuriating to say the least.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 27, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
I don't see how the first sale doctrine applies here.

Based on my reading of the law, it would only apply to lawfully owned and obtained copyrighted material by the first party. In other words, if someone purchase a painting, picture, book, record, tape, cd, dvd, software, etc., the copyright holder can not restrict the lawful owner from transferring their ownership rights (permanently or temporarily) to another individual.

The problem is, these posters were never legally owned by the person or persons that initially gave them away. If the NSS "loaned" the posters to a movie theater, and someone there gave away the poster instead of returning it, that's basically theft. Selling it to another individual does not negate that fact. Fruit from the poisonous tree in a sense. The same rationale would apply to posters given to someone by an employee of NSS who wasn't authorized by the company to transfer ownership.

So unless the poster was purchased or otherwise legally obtained from the original copyright holder (ie: the studio or NSS), any subsequent sales or transfers could still be invalidated.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on March 27, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: enki on March 27, 2012, 10:05:34 AM
Aren't the pre-1990 posters technically owned by National Screen Service, a now defunct company?

Well, Technicolor bought NSS and all its IP in 2000, so I would assume they own the rights.  Doubt they care.  Also, since the NSS liquidated its own warehouses and sold the bulk of what we are now trading to collectors and dealers, I would think that this would re-enforce Mel's position on first sale doctrine for the NSS material.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 11:06:54 AM
The proof is in the pudding of course. Neither Disney nor Fox ever contested Moviegood's ownership or right to sell original posters and it openly continues to do so to date.

I'll download the pleadings again but I distinctly recall that Disney agreed that MovieGoods had legal ownership of its original posters per the first sale doctrine.
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Post by: enki on March 27, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
Ok, well I guess if NSS actually liquidated their poster collection to individuals, that would fall under the first sale doctrine.

Regarding the enforcement of their rights, I know with trademarks, if the holder doesn't actively enforce and regulate it's usage they can actually lose the rights. This is why Google doesn't want people to verbalize their IP (ie: "go google something"). If they let people use it, especially in the common vernacular, they could lose the trademark. I don't know if copyright law has a similar caveat.
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Post by: CSM on March 27, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
Quote from: enki on March 27, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
Ok, well I guess if NSS actually liquidated their poster collection to individuals, that would fall under the first sale doctrine.


Which they did.  The majority of what currently circulates (apart from more modern posters) are from these warehouse liquidations...

Other sources are finds in old theatres and in the roofs of attics ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on March 27, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
Well no reply today, I imagine my mail is going to go un-answered. Time to send to the geniuses who reply to mail for ebay as well!

 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 09:31:45 PM
Went back and read the Disney/20th Century Fox v. MovieGoods pleadings.

MovieGoods argued that pursuant to the first sale doctrine it had the right to sell promotional posters printed by Disney/20th Century Fox that it bought from theaters or poster distributors.  MovieGoods argued that the "first sale doctrine" did not require a monetary "sale" but rather a "transfer of title" that occurred when the studios distributed the posters to theaters.

Disney/20th Century Fox did not dispute that argument.  Disney instead went after MovieGoods' reproductions:

Under the first sale defense, Defendant [MovieGoods] must prove that (a) the copies were lawfully manufactured with Plaintiffs’ authorization; (b) Plaintiffs transferred title to the copies; (c) Defendant was the lawful owner of the copies; and (d) Defendant lawfully sold the copies.... Defendant fails on the very first element of its purported defense because the posters sold by Defendant were not lawfully manufactured with Plaintiffs’ authorization.... Defendant does not dispute that it possesses an entire department devoted to imaging with several printers capable of printing both small and large movie posters. Defendant also acknowledges that it scanned and printed movie posters. Defendant then asserts that while it printed certain posters, it did not print any of the Plaintiffs’ Works. Defendant, however, cannot put forth any evidence regarding the specific source of each of its posters and has acknowledged in deposition that it cannot determine whether or not a particular poster was printed by Defendant, thus creating an inference that Defendant manufactured the posters itself.

Ultimately the parties settled by entering into a Consent Decree  (http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Amended%20consent%20decree.pdf)that allowed MovieGoods to continue selling posters as permitted by the first sale doctrine but banning them from selling reproductions of the plaintiffs' posters.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 11:12:28 AM
So I came across this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251027895790?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1427.l2649

A very nice condition example, but at a ridiculous price. A similar one sold at EMP for $79, and another one at HA for about $250. I tried to do a "Best Offer", and it got auto-declined. I noticed he had listed it twice before (for less!) with no takers.

So I sent the guy a message saying that I was interested, but nowhere near his asking price. I referred him to the two auctions and explained how $700 was not in line with the market value.

To which he responded:
Quote
Scroll down the page 1/3: http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/cinestarwars.htm
There are two listings on this page: $395 & $695.

This poster has a tape scar and has radio station printing: http://www.filmposters.com/movie-poster.asp?ProdID=7667
Condition is stated as fine and the price is $750.

Ended eBay Auction: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/STAR-WARS-NATIONAL-PUBLIC-RADIO-NPR-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-/170495415713
Assuming this in not a stock photo, it appears this one does not have the radio printing and has a similar condition. It was priced $695.


These represent a sampling more "in line" with the quality of poster we have here. There are a couple of major differences between the "very good" $79 poster and the poster for sale here: condition & printing. The poster for sale here has nothing printed in the blank space at the bottom of the page. This poster has been kept in very fine condition. It was never mounted. It has never seen the light of day. It was only recently unrolled for the first time since it was originally packaged. FYI: None of these posters were ever machine folded (as stated as a "feature" on the $79 listing).

To the new owner of the $79 poster, congratulations: for your sake, we hope it is not a fake. For the people that sold it; they did not know what they had... if it was real. In the meantime, we will continue to entertain only reasonable offers. If the poster does not sell soon for a fair value, it will go back into the collection. Maybe, after another 10 years, we will consider offering it for sale again. Legend has it that less than two dozen of these exist in such pristine condition.

It's a sad day when eBay sellers are using Cinemasterpieces retail prices to set their minimum BIN prices. And the eBay auction he cited, again a CM one, never even sold.

I responded back, letting him know that while a seller can ask anything they want for an item, that doesn't mean someone is going to actually pay that amount. I also defended EMP since he felt the need to challenge it's authenticity (ironic for a guy selling on eBay imho...). I wished him the best of luck, and told him to let me know when he changes his mind.

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Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 30, 2012, 12:00:38 PM

Yes, it did sell. When we sell an item directly from our website (like the poster you refer to) , we have to end the ebay listing. Most of our sales are directly from our website, not on ebay, and most of the time people pay the full asking price.
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Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 12:18:37 PM
Which is fine, and I appreciate the clarification. But there is a huge difference between a high-end (and price) retail outlet such as your website, and an auction site like eBay.

Also, the seller here didn't know that. He was simply citing your eBay auction's price (which ended without a sell on eBay) as justification for his asking price.

As you said, most of your sales come from customers who buy directly from your website - not eBay. Because people generally are willing to spend more at a "gallery" then on a second-hand market.
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Post by: Bruce on March 30, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
This once again proves that even though we sometimes get much higher prices we also regularly have real "steals" (and Dave should know, as he picks up some, as do many others who take the time to look over all our items each week, looking for those that "fall between the cracks").

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
Dave,

Speaking of your eBay auctions, is there a reason you haven't given positive feedback to me? I've purchased four things so far from your quarterly $0.99 auctions and have yet to get any...  :-[
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CineMasterpieces on March 30, 2012, 02:11:14 PM
We always give positive feedback after we receive it, as soon as it is left for us. It is just the way we have always done it. Just a habit I guess. :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
Ah, I see.

I on the other hand, as a buyer, don't give positive feedback to a Seller until I receive it.

My rationalization for this is that, in an eBay transaction, there are two components:
The Buyer is responsible for paying for the item.
The Seller is responsible for shipping the item and ensuring that it is as described, arrives properly/safely, etc.

As a Buyer, my obligations are fully satisfied once I have made payment, assuming there are no additional requirements such as shipping something back or providing additional information. Since the Seller is obviously not going to fulfill their obligations until the Buyer has completed their's, in my opinion the Seller should provide appropriate feedback for the Buyer as soon as this step is completed, just as the Seller would expect that they are provided positive feedback from the Buyer once their part of the transaction has been completed satisfactorily.

On the rare occasions where I actually sell something on eBay, I follow this same logic in reverse. As soon as funds have been transferred, I leave positive feedback for the (hopefully) quick and complete payment of the item.

The Seller's obligations are not completed until well after this point. But nothing the seller does or doesn't do should affect or impact the fact that the Buyer has "held up their end of the bargain".

Since eBay sellers can't leave negative feedback on Buyers anymore, this is even more appropriate (IMHO), since they have made it clear that Buyer feedback is for confirming payment has been received. Assuming there was a problem later on in the transaction, that would have to be rectified through the appropriate eBay channels for transaction dispute anyway.

That's why I don't leave positive feedback until I receive it - because my obligations were satisfied first, and that respective feedback should be left first. I don't believe sellers should hold feedback "hostage" until they receive it - not to say that you do this actively, just pointing out that many do.

Again, my opinion.

I figured I would ask since I have purchased quite a few expensive items from you in the past, and wondered why I never got a +1  :'(.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2012, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: enki on March 30, 2012, 02:33:23 PM
Ah, I see.

I on the other hand, as a buyer, don't give positive feedback to a Seller until I receive it.

My rationalization for this is that, in an eBay transaction, there are two components:
The Buyer is responsible for paying for the item.
The Seller is responsible for shipping the item and ensuring that it is as described, arrives properly/safely, etc.

As a Buyer, my obligations are fully satisfied once I have made payment, assuming there are no additional requirements such as shipping something back or providing additional information. Since the Seller is obviously not going to fulfill their obligations until the Buyer has completed theirs, in my opinion the Seller should provide appropriate feedback for the Buyer as soon as this step is completed, just as the Seller would expect that they are provided positive feedback from the Buyer once their part of the transaction has been completed satisfactorily.

On the rare occasions where I actually sell something on eBay, I follow this same logic in reverse. As soon as funds have been transferred, I leave positive feedback for the (hopefully) quick and complete payment of the item.

The Seller's obligations are not completed until well after this point. But nothing the seller does or doesn't do should affect or impact the fact that the Buyer has "held up their end of the bargain".

Since eBay sellers can't leave negative feedback on Buyers anymore, this is even more appropriate (IMHO), since they have made it clear that Buyer feedback is for confirming payment has been received. Assuming there was a problem later on in the transaction, that would have to be rectified through the appropriate eBay channels for transaction dispute anyway.

That's why I don't leave positive feedback until I receive it - because my obligations were satisfied first, and that respective feedback should be left first. I don't believe sellers should hold feedback "hostage" until they receive it - not to say that you do this actively, just pointing out that many do.

Again, my opinion.

I figured I would ask since I have purchased quite a few expensive items from you in the past, and wondered why I never got a +1  :'(.


+1.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on this points as both buyer and seller, enki. When I have won or bought an item on ebay, I have always paid within hours of winning or buying an item (let alone the 3 day window most buyers ask for). There have been times that I, too, have not received positive feedback, once I fulfilled my payment obligation (and a few times, none was received at all). This happened, too, to me with another poster seller, who also stated that no feedback would be given until I had posted positive feedback first to him (i had emailed and inquired, also).

I dont understand that logic; it is backwards IMO, especially when one is awaiting the arrival of their purchase. And then, of course, an item may not be as described, damaged due to poor packaging etc (and what if the the seller is of no help to rectify the situation? There is (was) the whole idea of retaliatory, unwarranted, negative feedback).

The same goes with me, when I have sold occasional items. Once the funds have been received, that buyer receives positive feedback from me.

Again, I know some people dont ever deal with leaving feedback. And I am not suggesting that a seller needs to leave feedback within minutes of receiving payment, especially those that have a a great number of items listed. I'm talking about the idea that some sellers specifically choose to not leave feedback until they have received it first, even when payment to him/her has been received.







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Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 03:43:41 PM
And when I do sell something on eBay, I always make it a point to send a personalized email to the buyer - thanking them for their purchase and prompt payment, letting them know I had already left them positive feedback, and asking them to do the same once they received the item and were happy with it. I've only had one buyer that never left anything (meh, what are you gonna do).

The only time I've ever broken my "seller leaves it first" rule is when I bought a gift for someone. It was a cheap little antique. But the seller went above and beyond. They actually refunded me some of the shipping costs out of nowhere because it was less than she anticipated. She also put an extra item in the package, and a very nice personalized note. I felt she was such an outstanding seller that she deserved the +1 even if she never left me anything.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2012, 03:54:47 PM
Ditto on the email communications, as well. Its Very important, and puts both seller and buyer at ease, during the transaction. Or to answer questions, get details etc.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on March 30, 2012, 05:00:40 PM
Exactly. When dealing with people on eBay, it's nice to keep it somewhat personal. Let them know when it should be shipping out, and you'll give them the tracking number when you have it, etc. It keeps things less Big Business like, and makes the buyer happy. It also stops them from thinking "omg, I just gave this person $X and haven't heard from them in ten seconds, I think they're trying to scam me, I'm going to email them right now demanding to know why my package wasn't shipped same-day-express-delivery", etc.
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Post by: Silhouette on April 02, 2012, 06:29:15 PM
Mid auction analysis goes here? Only hours before it's all over..and forum members are bidding wildly

OMG  :D

http://bit.ly/Hcs1Yy
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Post by: Louie D. on April 02, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 02, 2012, 06:29:15 PM
Mid auction analysis goes here? Only hours before it's all over..and forum members are bidding wildly

OMG  :D

http://bit.ly/Hcs1Yy


THEY'RE FUCKING DAYBILLS!  puke2
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 02, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on April 02, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
THEY'RE FUCKING DAYBILLS!  puke2

OMG You're right! How did I not see that? hitself

Oh well may as well slash my wrists now...

 :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 02, 2012, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 02, 2012, 09:16:34 PM
OMG You're right! How did I not see that? hitself

Oh well may as well slash my wrists now...

 :)

Too bad I am not buying anything this month...  Oh wait they are daybills...  ;)
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Post by: Ari on April 02, 2012, 09:54:46 PM
I predict whoever is winning RIGHT NOW, is very sexy and smart.
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Post by: 50s on April 02, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 02, 2012, 09:54:46 PM
I predict whoever is winning RIGHT NOW, is very sexy and smart.

I predict whoever is bidding thought these were dvd's

 

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Post by: CSM on April 02, 2012, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 02, 2012, 11:04:44 PM
I predict whoever is bidding thought these were dvd's

 



Region 4's?
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Post by: Ari on April 02, 2012, 11:33:56 PM
Gosh and to think when I started selling on ebay I had to write THIS IS NOT A VIDEO (rather than dvd).
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Post by: Der Januskopf on April 02, 2012, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on April 02, 2012, 08:49:16 PM
THEY'RE FUCKING DAYBILLS!  puke2

Over 3/4 of these are from the 1990s.
 
How was the price/value of "over 500.00" for this group of modern daybills calculated?  :o

Someone will get a lot of newer paper for 10-15.00 USD, if the bids dont go up.

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Post by: Ari on April 02, 2012, 11:46:27 PM
Some sexy, smart (well hung) DVD collector. COOL!
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Post by: CSM on April 02, 2012, 11:52:39 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 02, 2012, 11:46:27 PM
Some sexy, smart (well hung) DVD collector. COOL!

 :o
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Post by: 50s on April 03, 2012, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 02, 2012, 11:46:27 PM
Some sexy, smart (well hung) DVD collector. COOL!

I think Ari has his ass back now and is full of confidence  thumbup
Wait, well hung... we talking about an ass?  ;)


Quote from: Der Januskopf on April 02, 2012, 11:44:56 PM
How was the price/value of "over 500.00" for this group of modern daybills calculated?  :o

It's easy, all prices are listed as SRP (Suggested Retail Price)
Suggested Retail Price is:
"the price which the manufacturer recommends that the retailer sell the product"
So there,... huh...
Remember, if you don't like the goods, No Refunds Accepted, so for you who are just starting out in the hobby make sure you know what condition VG is, apologies Ari, ahemm,... Virtual Garbage
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Post by: Silhouette on April 03, 2012, 12:51:53 AM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on April 02, 2012, 11:44:56 PM
How was the price/value of "over 500.00" for this group of modern daybills calculated?  :o

Well what I did is check to see what everyone else was selling them for or what they had sold for on auction sites. I used a pen to write down those numbers, I then used a calculator to add the numbers up, taking a rough average and erring on the low side if that was possible..I then listed every poster and posted the prices I researched against each title as a guide for everyone in case they wanted to check - go ahead check. Are you suggesting I am lying or trying to pull a fast one? I can't be more transparent with this advert....besides since when is being a 90s poster a pre-curser for being cheap?

Quote from: 50s on April 03, 2012, 12:04:51 AM
... Virtual Garbage

That comment was a bit tough
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Post by: holiday on April 03, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 27, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
Dale because you a dealer your legal concerns are different from those of a downstream collector who is several times removed from the original transfer of the posters. Clearly collectors can sue a dealer who knowingly misrepresents a poster as an original when that dealer knows it is a reprint or bootleg.

Sorry, but I don't think you're right Mel.  First sale doctrine applies to something that is put into commerce by a seller.  So, if the record company sells a CD, the first sale doctrine permits that buyer to resell the CD.

It does not apply to something that was not intended to be put into commerce.  So, if a distributor gives the posters away to a theater, then there's an argument that the first sale doctrine permits subsequent resale. However, if the posters are consigned, or are otherwise lent to the theater on a temporary basis, to be returned or destroyed when done, the first sale doctrine does not apply.

That's why, for the most part, every poster everyone here owns is, um, in violation of copyright and/or trademark laws.
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Post by: 110x75 on April 03, 2012, 01:16:16 AM
Quote from: holiday on April 03, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
That's why, for the most part, every poster everyone here owns is, um, in violation of copyright and/or trademark laws.

Us paper collectors love living dangerously!  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 03, 2012, 01:18:46 AM
I thought most US movie posters in our hot little hands come originally from NSS who either sold their posters to the public or sold off the warehouses of posters to the public? Not sure about other countries. Interested to know more about French, Italian and Mexican posters how we gotta hold on them.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 03, 2012, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 03, 2012, 12:51:53 AM
Well what I did is check to see what everyone else was selling them for or what they had sold for on auction sites. I used a pen to write down those numbers, I then used a calculator to add the numbers up, taking a rough average and erring on the low side if that was possible..I then listed every poster and posted the prices I researched against each title as a guide for everyone in case they wanted to check - go ahead check. Are you suggesting I am lying or trying to pull a fast one? I can't be more transparent with this advert....besides since when is being a 90s poster a pre-curser for being cheap?

That comment was a bit tough

I see nothing wrong with the listing, anyone can do their own research and agree or not with the value described.
Personally I think they would average $10 each retail - with many sitting around not selling for a long time. But thats OK.

Someone could buy them and have their next Xmas presents sorted for the family and friends. ;)
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Post by: Der Januskopf on April 03, 2012, 02:50:36 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 03, 2012, 12:51:53 AM
Well what I did is check to see what everyone else was selling them for or what they had sold for on auction sites. I used a pen to write down those numbers, I then used a calculator to add the numbers up, taking a rough average and erring on the low side if that was possible..I then listed every poster and posted the prices I researched against each title as a guide for everyone in case they wanted to check - go ahead check. Are you suggesting I am lying or trying to pull a fast one? I can't be more transparent with this advert....besides since when is being a 90s poster a pre-curser for being cheap?



Not at all. Just asking. No one suggested anything otherwise. And 90s and more current material does go for less, in many cases, than items that are older. Scarcity etc can come in to play. Paper from the 90s to now can be more prolific and plentiful.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 03, 2012, 07:07:31 AM
the high bidder now has a small dick, many mistake it for a peanut.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 03, 2012, 08:38:20 AM
Quote from: holiday on April 03, 2012, 01:04:26 AM
Sorry, but I don't think you're right Mel.  First sale doctrine applies to something that is put into commerce by a seller.  So, if the record company sells a CD, the first sale doctrine permits that buyer to resell the CD.

It does not apply to something that was not intended to be put into commerce.  So, if a distributor gives the posters away to a theater, then there's an argument that the first sale doctrine permits subsequent resale. However, if the posters are consigned, or are otherwise lent to the theater on a temporary basis, to be returned or destroyed when done, the first sale doctrine does not apply.

That's why, for the most part, every poster everyone here owns is, um, in violation of copyright and/or trademark laws.

I think I've got the better of the argument here, Mr. Lawyer.  All these arguments were hashed out in the Disney/20th Century Fox v. MovieGoods lawsuit.  MovieGoods argued extensively that the "first sale" doctrine only requires a "transfer" (not sale) into commerce and that Disney/20th Century Fox "transferred" its posters to movie theaters and poster distributors for the promotion of its movies.  

I've included the essential pleadings here:

http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/

Most of the litigation concerned 11x17 flyers, for which there is a stronger "first sale" argument that Disney intended such posters to be distributed to the public.

The parties settled before the issue was decided.  At the end of the day, both Disney and 20th Century Fox signed a consent decree (http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Amended%20consent%20decree.pdf) expressly allowing MovieGoods to continue to sell original posters per the "First Sale" doctrine, effectively agreeing with MovieGoods' arguments.  

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Settlement.jpg)

The settlement itself was very broad and went beyond 11x17 flyers.  It expressly banned the reproduction of Disney's intellectual properties, including the Aladdin one sheets:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin3.jpg)

And MovieGoods continues to sell original Disney movie posters, including Aladdin, almost certainly through the "First Sale" exception specified in the consent order.  Notably, MovieGoods does NOT sell repros of these posters.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin2.jpg)

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Post by: holiday on April 03, 2012, 10:33:25 AM
The consent decree begs the question of what is protected by the first sale doctrine.  Nowhere does it state that moviegoods' sale of posters is protected by the first sale doctrine.  Instead, the decree enjoins moviegoods from selling anything that is violative, excepting what is covered by the first sale doctrine.

There simply was no resolution of this issue in that case, because it never went to trial.  It may be that they dropped the case for that very reason - to avoid having an adverse decision entered against it (Disney).

While moviegoods argued that only a transfer is required, to my knowledge there is no authority that supports that position.  The first sale doctrine has always covered just that -- the first sale and thereafter.  Otherwise, it would be the "first transfer doctrine" or some such.

But, it's an interesting argument to be sure.  Perhaps one day it will be settled.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 03, 2012, 08:38:20 AM
I think I've got the better of the argument here, Mr. Lawyer.  All these arguments were hashed out in the Disney/20th Century Fox v. MovieGoods lawsuit.  MovieGoods argued extensively that the "first sale" doctrine only requires a "transfer" (not sale) into commerce and that Disney/20th Century Fox "transferred" its posters to movie theaters and poster distributors for the promotion of its movies.  

I've included the essential pleadings here:

http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/

Most of the litigation concerned 11x17 flyers, for which there is a stronger "first sale" argument that Disney intended such posters to be distributed to the public.

The parties settled before the issue was decided.  At the end of the day, both Disney and 20th Century Fox signed a consent decree (http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Amended%20consent%20decree.pdf) expressly allowing MovieGoods to continue to sell original posters per the "First Sale" doctrine, effectively agreeing with MovieGoods' arguments.  

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Settlement.jpg)

The settlement itself was very broad and went beyond 11x17 flyers.  It expressly banned the reproduction of Disney's intellectual properties, including the Aladdin one sheets:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin3.jpg)

And MovieGoods continues to sell original Disney movie posters, including Aladdin, almost certainly through the "First Sale" exception specified in the consent order.  Notably, MovieGoods does NOT sell repros of these posters.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MovieGoods/Aladdin2.jpg)


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Post by: Charlie on April 03, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
What about the free posters given away at the theater.  This is likely a policy and accepted by the distributors.  If the movie theater gives posters away and then they are sold, does that solve the first sale doctrine issue...  How would the distributors be able to allow "give aways" and then claim that they had only transferred ownership. They could not prove that the poster given away is the one that was transferred.  I know many theaters give posters to employees as incentives.  

I also have noticed that many of the Disney posters have serial numbers; perhaps as a way to police or track them.  So serial number xxx through xxx went to Florida at joe blow theater and now it was sold so that theater is in violation unless it was known that they were given away.  Also if the poster were not to be sold and thrown out, how do you bring penalty on anyone selling it.  "I picked it out of the bin." Does a person not have the right to sell trash?

I think it can only apply when posters are specifically recalled (have to be returned not just destroyed) and can be tracked through serial numbers.  Who is to say that the poster is real or not? Disney can only prove this through the serial number system on their posters and is probably why they had the gumption to bring legal action.
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Post by: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
Fascinating read, I obviously don't understand the long words but think I get the drift!

To change tack from the discussion, has anyone got their beady eyes on any of the emovieposter wares ending tonight? There's some great paper, a couple of the Polish ones I wanted are already out of my league, but I've got something in mind I'm going for ;)
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Post by: enki on April 03, 2012, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
Fascinating read, I obviously don't understand the long words but think I get the drift!

To change tack from the discussion, has anyone got their beady eyes on any of the emovieposter wares ending tonight? There's some great paper, a couple of the Polish ones I wanted are already out of my league, but I've got something in mind I'm going for ;)

There is definitely something I'm going for tonight too. Not sure if I'll be able to get it, since I assume it will go significantly higher in price, but I'm going all in.
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Post by: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
Good luck enki... I think I'm in a similar boat.

The interesting thing this time is the Mrs is probably more up for getting it than me... there's a first!
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
Good luck enki... I think I'm in a similar boat.

The interesting thing this time is the Mrs is probably more up for getting it than me... there's a first!

What are we all bidding on?  :P
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Post by: enki on April 03, 2012, 03:21:51 PM
 gun1 gun2
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10700000/Boondock-Saints-w-Guns-the-boondock-saints-10731323-607-642.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on April 03, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
Perhaps this is more accurate...

(http://dapsmagic.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/LightSaberDuelLukeDarthVaderStarWarsV.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 03, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
I've been on a Czech and Polish tear lately... watch out.  ;D
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 03, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
I've been on a Czech and Polish tear lately... watch out.  ;D

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
(http://moviemancave.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/boondock_saints.jpg?w=430&h=322)
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Post by: enki on April 03, 2012, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 03, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
Perhaps this is more accurate...

(http://dapsmagic.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/LightSaberDuelLukeDarthVaderStarWarsV.jpg)

 moron1
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 04:19:29 PM
(http://www.theaterhopper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/dafoe-drag.jpg)
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Post by: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 02:48:54 PM
What are we all bidding on?  :P

<OO
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Post by: Charlie on April 03, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
0
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 04:51:01 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 03, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
0

I have made it a personal goal to see if I can go the entire month of April without buying a poster... (that I haven't already made arrangements for  )  This is linen backing start-up month... Wish me luck!

I thought that that was just an april fool thing? No?
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Post by: Charlie on April 03, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 04:51:01 PM
I have made it a personal goal to see if I can go the entire month of April without buying a poster... (that I haven't already made arrangements for  )  This is linen backing start-up month... Wish me luck!

I thought that that was just an april fool thing? No?

Nope bought all the wood for the washing table and will be ordering the soap, CT, Duct, Mylars, etc. this week.  About ~$700 to start up so no posters for me...  When I start building the table I'll snap some pics and then when I start playing with the stuff I'll snap pics.  Maybe I should start a thread...
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 03, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
Nope bought all the wood for the washing table and will be ordering the soap, CT, Duct, Mylars, etc. this week.  About ~$700 to start up so no posters for me...  When I start building the table I'll snap some pics and then when I start playing with the stuff I'll snap pics.  Maybe I should start a thread...

That is cool.

Yes it will need its own thread.

I wish you good luck!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 03, 2012, 08:26:02 PM
Holiday.

posters are not exactly distributed directly by the studios (with small exception), but are generally distributed by third parties who warehouse and ship by contract to the companies doing distribution (Disney for instance has a subsidiary that does distribution, then they in turn contract a warehouse & shipper to do the heavy lifting). When these posters are given away by the distributors, the distributors & all upstream companies involved are essentially "abandoning" the individual posters, largely because it's too expensive to retrieve them.
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Post by: enki on April 03, 2012, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: agentprovocateur on April 03, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
Good luck enki... I think I'm in a similar boat.

The interesting thing this time is the Mrs is probably more up for getting it than me... there's a first!

Woohoo!!!!!!

 woohoo
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Post by: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
Quote from: enki on April 03, 2012, 09:22:58 PM
Woohoo!!!!!!

 woohoo

I assume you got it? If so... which one was it?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 03, 2012, 09:57:29 PM
I asked the mods to move all the "first sale" posts to a new thread.

Like I said a few days ago, the "downstream" collectors like us clearly "own" our posters.  I doubt there is a single case of a movie studio contesting ownership of a poster obtained by an individual collector from any source - dealer, other collector, theater employee, Ebay seller, etc.  You don't see Universal claiming to own that Dracula poster that Heritage sold, do you?
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Post by: enki on April 03, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 03, 2012, 09:45:16 PM
I assume you got it? If so... which one was it?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/200/polish_26x38_return_of_the_jedi_NZ04625_L.jpg)

 8)
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Post by: Zorba on April 04, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: enki on April 03, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/200/polish_26x38_return_of_the_jedi_NZ04625_L.jpg)

 8)

Gtraz!
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Post by: brude on April 04, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Quote from: enki on April 03, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/200/polish_26x38_return_of_the_jedi_NZ04625_L.jpg)

 8)

Awesome poster!  clap clap clap
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Post by: enki on April 04, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
Thanks!

It's actually my first International poster (not counting 1SH International versions of US posters).

I really love the artwork in it. Plus it's a hard to find Star Wars poster, which made it that much more appealing to me. I only found three others on auction sites (1 on HA and 2 on EMP) that sold in the past. It's also on the back cover of the Star Wars Poster Book.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 04, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
Congrats, Enki. I've always thought this was one VERY cool poster!!

 thumbup
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Post by: Charlie on April 04, 2012, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: enki on April 04, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
Thanks!

It's actually my first International poster (not counting 1SH International versions of US posters).

I really love the artwork in it. Plus it's a hard to find Star Wars poster, which made it that much more appealing to me. I only found three others on auction sites (1 on HA and 2 on EMP) that sold in the past. It's also on the back cover of the Star Wars Poster Book.

It is an awesome poster.  An icon for a collection.  I always loved this one it even stands out in the Star Wars Poster Book....  Congrats!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 04, 2012, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: enki on April 03, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/200/polish_26x38_return_of_the_jedi_NZ04625_L.jpg)

 8)

There's a new kid enki in town.... clap
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Post by: eatbrie on April 04, 2012, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: enki on April 03, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/200/polish_26x38_return_of_the_jedi_NZ04625_L.jpg)

 8)

Great poster.  Has been on my list forever, but I don't want to spend the money.  I'm a cheap ass.

T
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 05, 2012, 02:35:01 PM
70mmWIDESCREEN , take a deep breath and slow down the bids, lord...

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Post by: enki on April 05, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on April 05, 2012, 02:35:01 PM
70mmWIDESCREEN , take a deep breath and slow down the bids, lord...



I know, wtf!  mesmrized

Share some posters with the rest of us. Sheesh.
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Post by: Der Januskopf on April 05, 2012, 06:02:37 PM
Bidder "shadowsofparis" also has his finger on a swarm of posters too.  8)

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Post by: Bruce on April 05, 2012, 07:04:49 PM
You guys are all bunched up on the same posters! There are still 20% of them at $3 or less and one third at $5 or less!

Stray from the crowd and get some deals and real steals!

Bruce
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Post by: Silhouette on April 05, 2012, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 05, 2012, 07:04:49 PM

Stay from the crowd and get some deals and real steals!


Is this Bruce?

(http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0902-2104-4431_Smiling_Circus_Ringmaster_clipart_image.jpg)

or is this?  ;)

(http://shepherdthesheep.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/shepherd.jpg)



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Post by: Charlie on April 07, 2012, 10:26:02 AM
Somebody might want to snag this... Its clearly DS and the real deal no Tloce fake here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251035911105&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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Post by: CSM on April 07, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: Charlie on April 07, 2012, 10:26:02 AM
Somebody might want to snag this... Its clearly DS and the real deal no Tloce fake here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251035911105&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

What's the matter Charlie - can't stomach another Black Swan?  ;)
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Post by: Charlie on April 07, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 07, 2012, 10:28:52 AM
What's the matter Charlie - can't stomach another Black Swan?  ;)

Already have it.  Its the DS theater used one...  Plus I have no money or I would buy it and consign it for Bruce's Sig...
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Post by: Bruce on April 07, 2012, 11:34:59 AM
"Plus I have no money or I would buy it and consign it for Bruce's Sig"

There are lots of dealers using this exact strategy to make big bucks!

Bruce
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 07, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Quote from: Charlie on April 07, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
Already have it.  Its the DS theater used one...  Plus I have no money or I would buy it and consign it for Bruce's Sig...

It's a good deal but the real money is in the set.  Plus it's only shipping to UK.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 07, 2012, 01:31:39 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 07, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Plus it's only shipping to UK.

So was my set....
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 07, 2012, 08:11:29 PM
Coming to my house, thanks!
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Post by: Silhouette on April 08, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Are Bruce's (Sunday) auction finishing a little earlier than normal? Maybe by about 6 hours?
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Post by: Bruce on April 08, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
Did you not get the word that today is the day we set our clocks back 6 hours?

Or have you never looked at a Sunday auction before and did not realize they always start ending four hours before the Tuesday and Thursday ones?

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on April 08, 2012, 05:41:41 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 07, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
Plus it's only shipping to UK.

Looks like Dale picked it up, but if any of you folks spot an auction that is only shipping to the UK and want me to re-ship to you, just ping me a PM.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 08, 2012, 05:55:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 08, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
Did you not get the word that today is the day we set our clocks back 6 hours?

Or have you never looked at a Sunday auction before and did not realize they always start ending four hours before the Tuesday and Thursday ones?

Bruce

The second one
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Post by: Charlie on April 08, 2012, 10:34:09 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on April 07, 2012, 08:11:29 PM
Coming to my house, thanks!


You bought the swan Dale?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
The opening bid is $3250.00

Included is the shipping, for this Professionally framed and backed 3 sheet. The seller states that shipping will cost about 1000.00 alone.  :o

Heritage has sold 3 of these. The last, in December of 2010 (also linen backed and described in VG condition), sold for $79.00*. Prior to this, another, also in VG condition and backed, sold for $215.10*

*Includes the BP


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-THEATER-7-x-4-HUGE-FRAMED-JEANETTE-MacDONALD-POSTER-1937-/251037996449?pt=Home_Theater_in_a_Box&hash=item3a7307d5a1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HOME-THEATER-7-x-4-HUGE-FRAMED-JEANETTE-MacDONALD-POSTER-1937-/00/$(KGrHqEOKpoE3w!tReRpBO!Q-jovdw~~_12.JPG)

Here's a complete image of the poster:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f3%2f9%2f9%2f0%2f3990123.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)
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Post by: CSM on April 10, 2012, 07:12:12 PM
Maybe the red lady comes as a domestic servant along with the poster?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 10, 2012, 07:12:12 PM
Maybe the red lady comes as a domestic servant along with the poster?

I never thought about that.

She dusts the frame and cleans the plexi, weekly.  happy1

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Post by: enki on April 10, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
I don't know who this "Hermes" guy is on EMP, but he's really starting to piss me off  moron1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on April 10, 2012, 10:02:34 PM
Quote from: enki on April 10, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
I don't know who this "Hermes" guy is on EMP, but he's really starting to piss me off  moron1


Gotta love when you pick up an emovie "twin". I have run across a few too and I can say that those people that like the same stuff just plain suck!  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 10, 2012, 10:12:17 PM
The other thing that sucks is that bidders keep changing their user names on emovie.

Makes it hard to consistently hate the competition ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on April 10, 2012, 10:59:07 PM
It's OK. I ended up making him pay about $100 over what the average selling price was for two items.

If I really wanted them, and the price was in a better range, I would have kept bidding. But they were only aussie daybills, so I wasn't bidding as aggressively as I might have otherwise done. What pisses me off more is that he took both of the ones I wanted. He didn't want to share.  >:(
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Post by: CSM on April 10, 2012, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: enki on April 10, 2012, 10:59:07 PM

I would have kept bidding. But they were only aussie daybills, so I wasn't bidding as aggressively as I might have otherwise done.

And what the F does this mean exactly?!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on April 10, 2012, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 10, 2012, 11:06:05 PM
And what the F does this mean exactly?!

 :o

 <OO

 eyeroll2

 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 10, 2012, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: enki on April 10, 2012, 11:10:11 PM
:o

 <OO

 eyeroll2

 sm1

Some sort of schizophrenic outburst?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on April 10, 2012, 11:17:15 PM
More like an emoticonic representation of:

OH....uhoh....uhm.....YEAH!

 8)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 11, 2012, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: enki on April 10, 2012, 10:59:07 PM
But they were only aussie daybills

Quote from: CSM on April 10, 2012, 11:06:05 PM
And what the F does this mean exactly?!

it just means that Aussie daybills are only 1/2 a step above Mexican lobby cards... except for the few that I have of course, which are beautiful rare items.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 11, 2012, 01:22:57 AM
racist ferqers.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on April 11, 2012, 01:37:05 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 11, 2012, 01:22:57 AM
racist ferqers.

Aussie love of the daybill is just misguided jingoistic pride.  wynk wynk wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on April 11, 2012, 02:18:25 AM
Quote from: brude on April 11, 2012, 01:37:05 AM
Aussie love of the daybill is just misguided jingoistic pride.  wynk wynk wynk

It's either that or we are a bunch of cashed up bogans with nothing better to spend our money on. wynk
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Post by: 110x75 on April 11, 2012, 02:28:43 AM
Quote from: brude on April 11, 2012, 01:37:05 AM
Aussie love of the daybill is just misguided jingoistic pride.  wynk wynk wynk

And canadian love of the daybill is just... demented.   ;)
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Post by: 110x75 on April 11, 2012, 02:30:07 AM
Quote from: Matt on April 11, 2012, 02:18:25 AM
It's either that or we are a bunch of cashed up bogans with nothing better to spend our money on. wynk

In Mr. Richard's case, is a bunch of cashed up vegans with nothing better to spend our money on
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Post by: CSM on April 11, 2012, 11:21:58 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 11, 2012, 02:28:43 AM
And canadian love of the daybill is just... demented.   ;)

We have a lot of snow
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on April 11, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 11, 2012, 02:18:25 AM
It's either that or we are a bunch of cashed up bogans with nothing better to spend our money on. wynk

This :D
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Post by: Silhouette on April 11, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 11, 2012, 02:18:25 AM
It's either that or we are a bunch of cashed up bogans with nothing better to spend our money on. wynk

Quote from: theartofmovieposters on April 11, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
This :D

Yup...plus anyone seen the value of our dollar versus the USD$...
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Post by: Charlie on April 11, 2012, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 11, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
Yup...plus anyone seen the value of our dollar versus the USD$...

Please say they are about equal now.  V is about to ship that stuff I got from you....
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Post by: Silhouette on April 11, 2012, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 11, 2012, 04:53:13 PM
Please say they are about equal now.  V is about to ship that stuff I got from you....

OK I will say it, and with apologies to George Orwell's Animal Farm...all dollars are equal, but some dollars are more equal than others  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on April 11, 2012, 06:15:26 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 11, 2012, 04:53:13 PM
Please say they are about equal now.  V is about to ship that stuff I got from you....

Maybe, maybe not ;)
Maybe I want to enjoy them for a bit longer...oh no wait, yours had the horrible person on them.
I must get them out of the house asap!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 11, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on April 11, 2012, 06:15:26 PM
Maybe, maybe not ;)
Maybe I want to enjoy them for a bit longer...oh no wait, yours had the horrible person on them.
I must get them out of the house asap!

Leonard Nimoy is not a horrible person!  ;)

Man, Arnold and Mel are like airline stock... They are cheap when they get attacked and vulnerable but they always come back!

Guess I should post in new aqs since I am not buying any posters this month...
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Post by: Zorba on April 12, 2012, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 11, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
Leonard Nimoy is not a horrible person!  ;)

(http://chzjustcapshunz.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-captions-leonard-nimoy-what-she-said.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie on April 12, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 12, 2012, 02:18:26 PM
(http://chzjustcapshunz.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-captions-leonard-nimoy-what-she-said.jpg)

This is great!  Thanks for the laugh....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 17, 2012, 03:06:38 PM
Geeze if the extra room I hope to build was built, this would be mine!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150799004393&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123
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Post by: brude on April 17, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 17, 2012, 03:06:38 PM
Geeze if the extra room I hope to build was built, this would be mine!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150799004393&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

That's a nice one.
I'd buy it and store it til the room is built.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on April 17, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
Damn, the seller doesn't offer shipping to the US. Kind of kills it for me.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: enki on April 17, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
Damn, the seller doesn't offer shipping to the US. Kind of kills it for me.

That is a beaut!

Can you imagine the cost to ship that anywhere, let alone the US? :o


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on April 17, 2012, 03:47:28 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 17, 2012, 03:44:17 PM
That is a beaut!

Can you imagine the cost to ship that anywhere, let alone the US? :o




$11.

Oh wait, this isn't EMP. :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 17, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
If you guys don't buy this, you are nuts! I would give my eye teeth for that (if I knew what eye teeth were).

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on April 17, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
Ok somebody buy it and have it shipped piece by piece - sort of like a very slow Ikea delivery
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 17, 2012, 04:34:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 17, 2012, 04:32:14 PM
If you guys don't buy this, you are nuts! I would give my eye teeth for that (if I knew what eye teeth were).

Bruce
If you don`t buy this for me,you`re nuts.. ;D

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 17, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
I love it but 1000KM drive to get it, so add in accommodation and more, plus I don't own anything that big to carry it so add in ute hire or similar...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 17, 2012, 04:42:02 PM
Make it airtight, and float-able, add a sail, and sail in it to here and I'll buy it from you. And you'll get worldwide media attention (and Disney will buy your story)!

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 17, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Well, I am in Brisbane, but that sucker is too big

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Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2012, 06:12:14 PM
This just popped up on mopo.

What is this exactly? Any ideas?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251041524989?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Starting bid is £300.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Creature-Black-Lagoon-original-window-card-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!hwE9i!GdWRsBPiuY-vFy!~~60_58.JPG)

The seller calls it (incorrectly) a window card. Dimensions stated are 22x30 inches. No Universal logo, extra wide side borders, Bottom credits bordered in black. Is it just a bad commercial reprint of either the half sheet (or maybe the title lobby card?) Even if that, why would the Universal International printed name and logo have been covered over, in the lower right? :-\

Here is the half sheet for reference:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f7%2f0%2f6%2f8%2f7068130.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 17, 2012, 06:34:47 PM
Maybe this will help from Mr Waines (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.msg26159.html#msg26159)


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Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 17, 2012, 06:34:47 PM
Maybe this will help from Mr Waines (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.msg26159.html#msg26159)




Looks to be the ticket, Steve. Thanks. From extra wide borders in the one, to right and top border-less in Mr Waines' copy.  ;)

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Post by: 110x75 on April 17, 2012, 08:26:37 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 17, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Well, I am in Brisbane, but that sucker is too big

I never expected to hear that from you, Mr. onesheetsaretiny  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 17, 2012, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 17, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
Looks to be the ticket, Steve. Thanks. From extra wide borders in the one, to right and top border-less in Mr Waines' copy.  ;)



I dunno...it kind of looks like fabric opposed to paper?  Anyways, if it is the Portal it's very faded!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2012, 01:36:09 AM
Thanks steve, I was just about to go searching my photos for that pic, saved me a job. I forgot I posted that...


And what happened to Harry's Portal list, did he give up...?  Maybe Mel should take up the rains....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 18, 2012, 04:26:56 AM
I wonder where this poster will end tomorrow?

(http://www.movieposterbid.com/auctions/sale_231/sale_231_146.jpg)

http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=90999
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 18, 2012, 06:29:24 AM
Some $#@^%.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 18, 2012, 07:21:57 AM
Here's another Creature commercial poster, this one from 1986.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2540489 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2540489)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/commercial_creature_from_the_black_lagoon_NZ05053_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on April 18, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
It must be post your own auction day...
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 18, 2012, 08:51:46 AM
Quote from: archie leach on April 18, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
It must be post your own auction day...
If only Jeannie was here..oops..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2012, 03:05:32 PM
it's no surprise to me that Marklawd won this poster. Mark also informed me that the poster was not used to promote the film, but rather to promote Oswald Cobblepot for Mayor of Gotham in the movie.. In other words, this poster is a movie prop and probably went for a supreme bargain

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 18, 2012, 04:26:56 AM
(http://www.movieposterbid.com/auctions/sale_231/sale_231_146.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: skyjackers on April 19, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
I have this poster also and have always wondered about it's true origins. Mine is the same as this, untrimmed and I was told it was an unused prop also, which is nice if true. I'm just not sure how you prove it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on April 19, 2012, 03:15:56 PM
I have this poster also and have always wondered about it's true origins. Mine is the same as this, untrimmed and I was told it was an unused prop also, which is nice if true. I'm just not sure how you prove it.

you can watch the movie
wynk
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2012, 03:22:22 PM
and congrats for having one.. has to be a very low number poster. glad I had one to keep
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on April 19, 2012, 03:40:28 PM
It's definitely a cool poster.  But I'm not sure how rare it is.  I've probably seen a dozen or more for sale in various places over the last few years. That was a good price for Mark though.  At auction I've seen it sell for double that or more. 
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Post by: Charlie on April 19, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
I just figured everyone knew it was the poster from the movie.  It's cool but ever since that film Danny Devito just creeps me out.  This is the worst Batman of them all...  Yes even lower than Mr. Freeze...  It's just too dark and creepy for me.  If this was a poster from Howard the Duck I may have had to break my vow...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: skyjackers on April 19, 2012, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
you can watch the movie
wynk

Good point! I can't see why anyone would remake them either. It's one of the few posters I'd really like to get framed and judging by your sale was more than happy to pay $10.25 for it!
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Post by: marklawd on April 19, 2012, 06:53:25 PM
Yes, the Cobblepot poster was discussed last August when Cj posted a photo of his one and a link to the movie, showing how they were used.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3025.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3025.0.html)

I think it's a great poster. Heritage have a record of selling one 9 years ago for $150 and a slightly battered one sold at Cameo last month for £210 plus commission. I think the price I paid - $180 - was about right.

http://cameo-auctioneers.co.uk/index.php?option=com_auctionimport&view=archivedetail&id=66&search=batman returns&page_list=25 (http://cameo-auctioneers.co.uk/index.php?option=com_auctionimport&view=archivedetail&id=66&search=batman returns&page_list=25)

The widths of the trimmed ones seem to vary and I guess there was no real need for precision cutting given the context in which they were used. So, although my copy was not used on set I'm pleased I have the complete image.

Mark
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Post by: brude on April 19, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 19, 2012, 03:05:32 PM
In other words, this poster is a movie prop and probably went for a supreme bargain

But, if it is untrimmed (and unused) it wouldn't technically be a movie prop, would it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on April 19, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
It was printed for that purpose so in my view it is an unused prop. Clearly I could trim it if I felt the need to create an impression of use.

Mark
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Post by: brude on April 19, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 19, 2012, 04:08:42 PM
This is the worst Batman of them all...  Yes even lower than Mr. Freeze...  It's just too dark and creepy for me. 

BATMAN RETURNS also co-starred Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman.
IMO, that alone elevates it above all other Batmans (if you think like I think and I hope that you don't).  wynk

(http://pics.livejournal.com/popravilam/pic/000aqwfp) (http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/3cb323a42be80be16f381fcbe0e121f35dc7d32c_m.gif)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
A beautiful unbacked and unrestored UK, stone litho, 6 sheet for the 1929 British production of ATLANTIC: ($9500.00 BIN)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370606324827#ht_500wt_1005

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TITANIC-CENTENARY-1929-UK-SIX-SHEET-ATLANTIC-EXTREMELY-RARE-LARGE-POSTER-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDA0/$(KGrHqRHJBgE9(5q(mu2BPkKKWdv-g~~60_58.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2012, 10:04:24 PM
For the quad lovers out there:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUSPIRIA-1976-UK-QUAD-DARIO-ARGENTO-GOBLIN-RARE-HORROR-MOVIE-FILM-POSTER-/280864134956?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4164ce972c   (£1999.00 BIN)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/SUSPIRIA-1976-UK-QUAD-DARIO-ARGENTO-GOBLIN-RARE-HORROR-MOVIE-FILM-POSTER-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJHJEUE914cuV!zBPitClScWg~~60_58.JPG)

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Post by: Ari on April 19, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
well thats a bit steep.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2012, 10:40:17 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 19, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
well thats a bit steep.

ya... seems to be that, true enough.  :o

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on April 19, 2012, 11:56:27 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 19, 2012, 10:21:54 PM
well thats a bit steep.

That's because the seller must be as high as a kite.
wtf?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on April 20, 2012, 01:31:58 AM
Well a little expensive, I'm selling my spare one for £1800....Bargain... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: originalcinemaposters on April 23, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110863494326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110863494326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

Zombie Flesh Eaters on linen doing good business!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 23, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on April 23, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110863494326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110863494326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

Zombie Flesh Eaters on linen doing good business!


Guess no APFer is chasing it:  "Professionally linenbacked and restored to archival standards by Chris Coultier in NYC."
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Post by: CSM on April 23, 2012, 04:50:36 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 23, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
Guess no APFer is chasing it:  "Professionally linenbacked and restored to archival standards by Chris Coultier in NYC."

No smart APFer anyways!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 23, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2549034

My wife and I love our one, maybe Stew will stop hassling me for ours now... ;)

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/foyer-3.jpg)


Paramount Pictures can trace its roots to the creation in May 1912 of the Famous Players Film Company. Founder Hungarian-born Adolph Zukor, who had been an early investor in nickelodeons, saw that movies appealed mainly to working-class immigrants. By mid-1913, Famous Players had completed five films, and Zukor was on his way to success.

That same year, another aspiring producer, Jesse L. Lasky, opened his Lasky Feature show Company with money borrowed from his brother-in-law, Samuel Goldfish, later known as Samuel Goldwyn.

And so in 1914 both Lasky and Famous Players began releasing their films through a start-up company, Paramount Pictures Corporation, formed early that year by a Utah theatre owner, W. W. Hodkinson, who had bought and merged several smaller firms. Early that year on May 8, 1914, Hodkinson had merged 11 film rental bureaus to create the first U.S.-wide distributor of feature films, Paramount Pictures.

In 1916, Famous Players-Lasky Corporation formed from the merger of Famous Players Film Company and the Jesse L. Lasky Feature Play Company. The newly merged film studios acquired Paramount and became the parent company. Adolph Zukor fired Hodkinson, took over as president of Paramount, and added motion-picture production to the company’s film distribution business.
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 23, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Lol, never give up is my motto,
Just wish I had a Passport. hehe.

Stew
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Post by: CSM on April 23, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 23, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2549034

My wife and I love our one, maybe Stew will stop hassling me for ours now... ;)

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/foyer-3.jpg)



Love that poster!  And I did notice Bruce had one up.

I am wondering if the spelling of "Theatres" suggests this was intended for Britain, Canada or Oz?
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Post by: Silhouette on April 23, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 23, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
Love that poster!  And I did notice Bruce had one up.

I am wondering if the spelling of "Theatres" suggests this was intended for Britain, Canada or Oz?

It's interesting you pick that up because I had noticed that too, I can't date it accurately but the 'Americanisation' (or bastardisation, you choose  ;) ) of the spelling of Theatre was not really in full effect until after the second world war. So 'theatre' is spelled correctly
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Post by: archie leach on April 23, 2012, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 23, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
I am wondering if the spelling of "Theatres" suggests this was intended for Britain, Canada or Oz?

No, either spelling is still common in the U.S...  

We have both kinds, country & western...


And it's 'correctization'... with a zed...
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Post by: CSM on April 23, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 23, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
It's interesting you pick that up because I had noticed that too, I can't date it accurately but the 'Americanisation' (or bastardisation, you choose  ;) ) of the spelling of Theatre was not really in full effect until after the second world war. So 'theatre' is spelled correctly

And here I thought we were all allies during WW2 eyeroll
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Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2012, 09:19:46 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 23, 2012, 06:16:56 PM


(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/foyer-3.jpg)


Nice poster. Another early piece that comes up with regularity. Always liked the color combination, too.  thumbup

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Post by: Bruce on April 23, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
Interesting that you are talking about this poster. There was a find of these in New England, in the rafters of an old movie theatre there. There were a bunch of other posters there, all from 1914 to 1916,

From a history standpoint, it was a much more significant find than Berwick, or even Royal Theater, but alas, there is not much big money in history.

There is an interesting story connected with this. A collector called me up and told me about the find, and he said he did not have enough money to buy it, so he offered to let me have it all, for a hefty finder's fee. I agreed, and wired him the amount needed for the purchase, even though I did not know him from Adam.

He got the deal, sent it all to me, and I paid the finder's fee.

A couple of months later, a few people told me that they had bought similar posters from him. I called him and asked him if he had held some out on me, and he confessed that he had "taken a couple" and had sold them.

A few years later, he called me up and told me he had actually taken around 50 of the posters, but that he had been scared after I called him and had not sold any more. He said he felt really terrible about it, especially since I had trusted him (a total stranger) with all that money.

He then said something that really floored me. He said he wanted to consign the remaining posters to me! He said that he didn't have to confess, and that he COULD have simply kept them, and that he thought this was fair!

I had never had a contract with him, or anything in writing, so I had no legal basis to get them back, so I just said OK, and I auctioned them for him!

There were around 20 of the Paramount one-sheets in all, and I am down to the last two. Most of these had been tri-folded together, and they almost all had damage on the top fold. Most of the other posters in the find were in unbelievably great condition.

Another funny postscript. A couple of years ago, the fellow died, and his daughter called me up, and said her dad said that I was the only person in the hobby he trusted, and to call me if anything happened to him! I auctioned his collection the last two years, and of course I never told his daughter the above story, and in fact this is the first time I am telling ANYONE the entire story!

Bruce
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Post by: CSM on April 23, 2012, 10:07:01 PM
Great story Bruce.  Guess that clarifies it's a US release poster and why there are so many around.
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Post by: Silhouette on April 24, 2012, 12:49:18 AM
Quote from: Bruce on April 23, 2012, 09:56:52 PM

From a history standpoint, it was a much more significant find than Berwick, or even Royal Theater, but alas, there is not much big money in history.

Bruce

Thanks Bruce! The story is a great read and also means a lot to me. I bought the poster because I loved the history behind it (once I researched it) - that there were so few makes me feel lucky I got one. We spent a lot of money getting it museum grade framed (more than 3 times I paid for the poster!) so we could display it for a long time without too much fear of degradation.

I also bought this a year or so ago http://tinyurl.com/83u2cy2 because it makes a great match for the poster (and is a wonderful read). I keep it nearby for people to look at, specially the ones who show interest in the poster - as much as I like my movie posters I do like this sort of stuff too.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 24, 2012, 03:30:49 PM
Real or Memorex? And still attached to the boards:

I know it's just a typo, but in his description, he calls this "a rare 1935 Wizard Of Oz poster...."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RaRe-Wizard-of-Oz-poster-1939-/200746882010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebd7253da

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RaRe-Wizard-Oz-poster-1939-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqVHJC8E92k!1L,3BPjDTHRF6Q~~60_58.JPG)

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Post by: jayn_j on April 24, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
wow.  No borders, no size reference, no documentation or context.  The proportions and design say 6 sheet, but if that was the case, each of those boards would be 16" wide.  Seems unlikely.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 24, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
And he scraped off part of Garland's nose, during the "aging" process; that wasn't very nice.    :P
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Post by: CSM on April 24, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
There seem to be a lot of these "wood posters" on eBay.  I would wager they are all repros...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2012, 12:04:50 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 24, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
There seem to be a lot of these "wood posters" on eBay.  I would wager they are all repros...

Agree, Chris. Especially when the borders (or at least the bottom) are conveniently missing, removing any and all printer's information. :-\


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Post by: brude on April 25, 2012, 11:36:34 AM
They're from a new series: Portals on Planks.
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Post by: Ari on April 25, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
 clap
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Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: brude on April 25, 2012, 11:36:34 AM
They're from a new series: Portals on Planks.


Touche'

 thumbup

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Post by: CSM on April 25, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 25, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
clap

 clap clap (trying to start a round)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 25, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
clap
Quote from: CSM on April 25, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
clap clap (trying to start a round)

 clap clap clap
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Post by: jayn_j on April 25, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 25, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
clap clap clap
(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20110331/Emoticon-1842005.jpg)(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20110331/Emoticon-1842005.jpg)(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20110331/Emoticon-1842005.jpg)(http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb/20110331/Emoticon-1842005.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie on April 25, 2012, 09:08:11 PM
 clap clap clap clap clap

What are we clapping about?
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on April 25, 2012, 09:18:40 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 25, 2012, 09:08:11 PM
clap clap clap clap clap

What are we clapping about?

Who said what now? ;)
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Post by: Ari on April 25, 2012, 10:19:32 PM
I made the FUNNIEST JOKE ever heard, but Holiday got jealous of my skills and deleted it, these clappers were the lucky few who actually read this amazing once in a lifetime funny.

Oh well, maybe next life Ves.
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Post by: CSM on April 25, 2012, 10:54:49 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 25, 2012, 10:19:32 PM
I made the FUNNIEST JOKE ever heard, but Holiday got jealous of my skills and deleted it, these clappers were the lucky few who actually read this amazing once in a lifetime funny.

Oh well, maybe next life Ves.

Oh I bet Ves just might be sick of your jokes ;)
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Post by: Ari on April 25, 2012, 11:16:39 PM
well if I say 100 to her, then there will be one thats funny. So I have to keep going and going. If I slow down then it will be years without cracking a smile.
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Post by: paul waines on April 26, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Dam this stupid world time difference, I want to know Ari's Joke.... >:(


Well I'm going to clap anyway... clap clap clap clap
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Post by: Silhouette on April 26, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 26, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Dam this stupid world time difference, I want to know Ari's Joke.... >:(

You missed it? Shame about that...not only is Ausstralia the Lucky Country it is the damn funny one too! It was a good one however.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 27, 2012, 12:53:54 PM
Same quad for the same movie, NIGHT OF THE CREEPS (1986), and both offered by the same seller. One is folded, the other is rolled. Along with quite a price difference.  ;)

Rolled Copy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHT-CREEPS-Rolled-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-zombie-/370599768130?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D300682061111%252B300682061111%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8019565628462391055

Folded Copy:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NIGHT-CREEPS-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-zombie-/370599768230?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D300682061111%252B300682061111%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8019622950972801759


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Post by: Ari on April 27, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
I reckon this is one of those posters that rolled would be nicer. usually I don't care, or rather prefer folded, IF I LIKED THIS FILM/POSTER Id rather rolled  - but I don't so I wont.
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Post by: paul waines on April 27, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
Jeff, that seller is the guy with the Million pound posters for sale eyeroll... He's erratic at best, so it's no surprise.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 27, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 27, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
Jeff, that seller is the guy with the Million pound posters for sale eyeroll... He's erratic at best, so it's no surprise.

Ah.. no wonder.  :o

Thanks, Paul.

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Post by: 110x75 on April 27, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 27, 2012, 01:18:34 PM
Jeff, that seller is the guy with the Million pound posters for sale eyeroll... He's erratic at best, so it's no surprise.

At least he chose the right ID...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 27, 2012, 06:42:34 PM
The best half of the (in)famous Outlaw 6S (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89504#Photo):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Outlaw.jpg)
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Post by: archie leach on April 27, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Oh look... Bruce has yet another 'second wave' Fight Club set up for auction...

See here or about 50 pages back...
www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3232.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3232.0.html)

Bid at your own risk...
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Post by: CSM on April 27, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
Who's gonna bid on the Outlaw 6 sheeter when her gun has been dramatically circumcised?  ;)
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Post by: 50s on April 27, 2012, 11:05:29 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 27, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
Who's gonna bid on the Outlaw 6 sheeter when her gun has been dramatically circumcised?  ;)

Her boobs now take up a greater percentage of the poster, so that is all that is important in life


 :o

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Post by: CSM on April 27, 2012, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 27, 2012, 11:05:29 PM
Her boobs now take up a greater percentage of the poster, so that is all that is important in life


 :o



Well you are correct in saying that sir  ;D
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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 10:09:04 AM
Something for Ari, perhaps.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-Victorian-Smithfield-market-shop-sign-ML-OFFALS-/110857170506?pt=UK_Antiques_Architecural_RL&hash=item19cf9a2e4a#ht_7438wt_1165
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Post by: wonka on April 28, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: archie leach on April 27, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Oh look... Bruce has yet another 'second wave' Fight Club set up for auction...

See here or about 50 pages back...
www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3232.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3232.0.html)

Bid at your own risk...

Incidentally, I saw a friend of mine from college in Chicago last week and noticed he had a bunch of posters and crap in his closet. I found one of these FC posters ('works great on blood stains') beat to hell and laminated all curled up in a box. I asked him when he got it, and he laughed and said he got it at Suncoast after I told him about them being there. Never knew he went back and picked one up after myself and my roommate were tempted.

So there yinz go.
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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 12:52:33 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 27, 2012, 06:42:34 PM
The best half of the (in)famous Outlaw 6S (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89504#Photo):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Outlaw.jpg)


If he's got that up for that price, I wonder what I'll get for this part of a U.K. 12Sht...


(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0609-2.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on April 28, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
A lot more if it had Bela on it ;)
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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 01:44:55 PM
I hate to say Chris, but Bela is top right Basil top left, Sondergaard middle bottom, Crawford bottom left, Gwynne bottom right....

Just incase you need spec's.... ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 02:14:51 PM
Paul,

With the rarity of extant 6 sheets for THE OUTLAW (I believe 4 copies are currently are known to exist), it would be something, if someone, by chance, had the other half of this and was able to complete it. And it looks like Jane has already landed 2 bids!  happy1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-1943-6-Sheet-The-Outlaw-Jane-Russell-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDY2/$(KGrHqV,!jcE9KeHkWd6BPleQueS0Q~~60_58.JPG)

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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 02:18:18 PM
Jeff, there's NO known copies of that Black cat 12Sht.....at all, so that bit is all you can get.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 02:18:18 PM
Jeff, there's NO known copies of that Black cat 12Sht.....at all, so that bit is all you can get.

Yes, that makes your BLACK CAT section UBER rare, Paul. One of a kind, at this point!!!  clap clap clap
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
From the Post Auction thread, but better suited here, since this auction/BIN is still active:

Quote from: 50s on April 27, 2012, 08:52:02 PM
There was a 3 sht of High School HellCats (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-SCHOOL-HELLCATS-Orig-1958-US-3Sht-BAD-GIRL-SEXY-ART-/350557963137?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ee20381) on ebay a few days ago, which missed out on (I have the 1 sht and not too impressed with it but thought Id give a 3 sht a go- maybe better colour)




Steve, you could go for this copy. And it's only $45.00 more than the PRETTY WOMAN OS:  ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-SCHOOL-HELLCATS-1SH-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-NM-M-HELL-CATS-1958-/190588104616?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUA%26otn%3D5%26pmod%3D350557963137%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8044572384403843864




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Post by: 110x75 on April 28, 2012, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 01:44:55 PM
I hate to say Chris, but Bela is top right Basil top left, Sondergaard middle bottom, Crawford bottom left, Gwynne bottom right....

Just incase you need spec's.... ;)

Paul, Chris is used to his daybills, where no one looks like in real life  ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 28, 2012, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 12:52:33 PM
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0609-2.jpg)

Lugosi is not any of those images.
top right is Hugh Herbert
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Post by: Der Januskopf on April 28, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Lugosi-less.  :'(

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0609-2.jpg)  (http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/hollywood/portraits/hugh_herbert.jpg)

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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
you know Rich your not often right, but this time... ;)

Dam it, Lugosi must be on the part I have missing..... :'(  and all this time I just thought it was a bad painting of Bela...



Edit:-   Man I'll never hear the last of this from Chris, he'll never get a hat to fit himself... hitself
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on April 28, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
Lugosi-less.  :'(

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0609-2.jpg)  (http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/hollywood/portraits/hugh_herbert.jpg)



Paul the painted portrait of Hugh Herbert on your 12 sheet section looks to be based on the b/w still, but flipped & reversed (with added fedora).   ;) And similar to this (lobby card) as you mentioned.

(http://www.filmposters.com/images/posters/15346.jpg)


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Post by: brude on April 28, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
There's Bela!
Kitchy koo...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 05:26:44 PM
Bela with his machete.

Must be why Anne Gwynne is cowering- and not from that expression he has on his face...lol


Edit: yes, Paul, I would. ;)

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Post by: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
Wouldn't you cower if Bela had his chopper out....
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Post by: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
With 3 + days to go. A French 1P for CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON (R62) with artwork by Constantin Belinsky. It needs a little TLC and is currently at $66.00:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CREATURE-BLACK-LAGOON-horror-sci-fi-french-movie-poster-litho-/170830276230?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DUPI.GIROS%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%26itu%3DUCI%252BUCC%26otn%3D13%26pmod%3D290704528509%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8046730152618747556

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CREATURE-BLACK-LAGOON-horror-sci-fi-french-movie-poster-litho-/00/s/MTAyNFg5MzI=/$(KGrHqN,!jME9KFwnQDmBPlrh8D06w~~60_58.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CREATURE-BLACK-LAGOON-horror-sci-fi-french-movie-poster-litho-/00/s/NzI3WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqR,!qME88f7ZhbpBPlrh+tr7Q~~60_58.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CREATURE-BLACK-LAGOON-horror-sci-fi-french-movie-poster-litho-/00/s/NzMxWDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqR,!lIE9RoyrdvHBPlriD,UoQ~~60_58.JPG)
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 28, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
Well scratch that one off the watch list
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Post by: CJ138 on April 28, 2012, 09:15:48 PM
SHEEEEEEEEEEIT.
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Post by: Ari on April 28, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 10:09:04 AM
Something for Ari, perhaps.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-Victorian-Smithfield-market-shop-sign-ML-OFFALS-/110857170506?pt=UK_Antiques_Architecural_RL&hash=item19cf9a2e4a#ht_7438wt_1165

OH dag nab it, I wish.Id attach it to the front of my dads house.

Imagine if there was one OFFAL AND SON.
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Post by: 50s on April 28, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
You search ebay for 'offal' ???


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Post by: wonka on April 28, 2012, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 28, 2012, 05:35:32 PM
With 3 + days to go. A French 1P for CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON (R62) with artwork by Constantin Belinsky. It needs a little TLC and is currently at $66.00:

Any chance you can tell us your ebay ID/password...or at least provide us with screenshots of your watch list? You know...to be fair.

Either way works.
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Post by: Ari on April 28, 2012, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 28, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
You search ebay for 'offal' ???




its funny that paul did, but I actually do, one day Ill find some paper with a good offal title or something.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 12:41:17 AM
ferris drives fast

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150800320308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on April 28, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
Well scratch that one off the watch list

Dale.. do you think everyone doesn't know that Claude Knsop is selling this poster??

he only emails everyone he's ever sold to online when he lists his stuff..

I don't think the item being posted here has one iota of meaning to the final price 9 times out of ten..
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Post by: paul waines on April 29, 2012, 02:35:10 AM
Quote from: 50s on April 28, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
You search ebay for 'offal' ???
Quote from: Ari on April 28, 2012, 11:58:24 PM
its funny that paul did, but I actually do, one day Ill find some paper with a good offal title or something.


I didn't search for Offal, I search for antique signs, and It was one that came up.... Bit large to post to Oz, but I thought Ari would like to see it. :D

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Post by: Ari on April 29, 2012, 02:40:41 AM
sure sure, everyone secretly searches for offal, in case theres nude pictures of me.
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Post by: brude on April 29, 2012, 03:03:30 AM
(http://amazingdata.com/mediadata63/Image/nude_snow1_pictures_fun_weird_interesting_44472382.jpg)

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Post by: Ari on April 29, 2012, 03:12:37 AM
yeah best to keep offal chilled, it tends to attract flies.
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 29, 2012, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Dale.. do you think everyone doesn't know that Claude Knsop is selling this poster??

he only emails everyone he's ever sold to online when he lists his stuff..

I don't think the item being posted here has one iota of meaning to the final price 9 times out of ten..

Not going to get into this circle again, but 100% yes, it makes a difference to the bottom line 9 out of 10 times someone posts something here. We know who does not care and who does, lets just leave it at that.
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Post by: paul waines on April 29, 2012, 09:53:52 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on April 29, 2012, 09:02:54 AM
Not going to get into this circle again, but 100% yes, it makes a difference to the bottom line 9 out of 10 times someone posts something here. We know who does not care and who does, lets just leave it at that.


 clap  well said.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 29, 2012, 10:23:17 AM
There are 44 watchers and 19 bids (by 10+ bidders) on that poster, so it's no secret by any means and was appropriate to post:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Weather.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2012, 10:34:25 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 28, 2012, 04:55:55 PM

Edit:-   Man I'll never hear the last of this from Chris, he'll never get a hat to fit himself... hitself

I am going to store this acknowledgement in a very special drawer for a very special day muhahahaha!
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Post by: Ari on April 29, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
I have a Kangaroo skin deer stalker you can have Chris.
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2012, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 29, 2012, 10:35:47 AM
I have a Kangaroo skin deer stalker you can have Chris.

Part of me wants to hold out for the kangaroo scrotum
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Post by: wonka on April 29, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 29, 2012, 10:23:17 AM
There are 44 watchers and 19 bids (by 10+ bidders) on that poster, so it's no secret by any means and was appropriate to post:

Give me a break.

Cause everyone knows about watcheditem.com and peruses it daily. So OBVIOUSLY we can frivolously post info on the headlining items.
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Post by: Ari on April 29, 2012, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 29, 2012, 10:37:11 AM
Part of me wants to hold out for the kangaroo scrotum

whens your birthday? and where's my pocket knife?
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Post by: Ed_209uk on April 29, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
'Please remember this poster has been used in a cinemas so may show signs of wear'

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/51/lastscrusade.jpg)

Spotted here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130688496070)
 
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Post by: Ari on April 29, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
haha this poster has spent the last 20 years in a solarium and forgot its sunscreen.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Regarding the Creature poster... Are we really going to do this again?  I'll save this thread 8 more pages of argument...

Rich, Mel and others will say it doesn't matter.

Me, Paul, Ben and others will say it very well could.

Each person repeats their argument 20 times.

The point is no one knows.  However, even if the chance is small -- minuscule even -- why would you ever risk fucking over a friend?  PM those who might be interested.  Wait until the auction is over with your "OMG!, LOL!, or WTF!" story.  As far as I'm concerned legit auctions with low starting bids that APF member will likely be watching/bidding on do not fit those criteria...
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Post by: paul waines on April 29, 2012, 01:07:15 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Regarding the Creature poster... Are we really going to do this again?  I'll save this thread 8 more pages of argument...

Rich, Mel and others will say it doesn't matter.

Me, Paul, Ben and others will say it very well could.

Each person repeats their argument 20 times.

The point is no one knows.  However, even if the chance is small -- minuscule even -- why would you ever risk fucking over a friend?  PM those who might be interested.  Wait until the auction is over with your "OMG!, LOL!, or WTF!" story.  As far as I'm concerned legit auctions with low starting bids that APF member will likely be watching/bidding on do not fit those criteria...


 clap
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
The point is no one knows.  However, even if the chance is small -- minuscule even -- why would you ever risk fucking over a friend?  PM those who might be interested.  Wait until the auction is over with your "OMG!, LOL!, or WTF!" story.  As far as I'm concerned legit auctions with low starting bids that APF member will likely be watching/bidding on do not fit those criteria...

the point is: no one here has any empirical data to back up any such claim, and on whose opinion is anyone fucking anyone.. You guys need to be more objective, rather than subjective
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Rich, Mel and others will say it doesn't matter.

Me, Paul, Ben and others will say it very well could.

Each person repeats their argument 20 times.

Rich will always try to get the last word.

Sorry, I forgot a step in the timeline  ;D
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Post by: paul waines on April 29, 2012, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: Ed_209uk on April 29, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
'Please remember this poster has been used in a cinemas so may show signs of wear'

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/51/lastscrusade.jpg)

Spotted here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130688496070)
 

Indiana Jones and the last posterfade...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 03:29:02 PM
Typically Harry, the person with the last word is the person who speaks last. Saying "(that person) always has to have the last word" is all by itself having the last word, so in this case you had the last word, except now I worded some. the world is last-wordly.
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Post by: Silhouette on April 29, 2012, 03:33:31 PM
Quote from: Ed_209uk on April 29, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
'Please remember this poster has been used in a cinemas so may show signs of wear'

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/51/lastscrusade.jpg)

Spotted here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130688496070)
 

Glad they used the word "may" so now I can go over the poster carefully noting any wear...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2012, 03:38:20 PM
Quote from: Ed_209uk on April 29, 2012, 12:41:41 PM
'Please remember this poster has been used in a cinemas so may show signs of wear'

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/51/lastscrusade.jpg)

Spotted here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130688496070)
 

At least it goes well with those floor tiles.  ;D

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Post by: wonka on April 30, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
the point is: no one here has any empirical data to back up any such claim, and on whose opinion is anyone fucking anyone.. You guys need to be more objective, rather than subjective

In a thread that was initiated by one dealer and championed by another, this response isn't surprising. But I will say the general attitude of 'no hard data = who cares' is a shame.

Also, objectivity/subjectivity has nothing to do with this, but to even go on this basis, objectivity (or literal and external reality) would be the fact that you can read others opinions for the contrary of what you cast aside. The all or nothing approach is an excuse to be disrespectful, flippant, and lazy.
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Post by: Bruce on April 30, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
I started this thread as a joke, and offered to end it. But there are several people who are not dealers who like it a lot.

You must realize it doesn't benefit me in any way, both because I don't post my items here, and because everyone here knows about my auctions anyway.

I would say this is Thierry's and Holiday's call.

Bruce
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
A Belgian NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959) (most likely reproduction) poster is being offered as the real deal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170828894810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

(http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/onemoon/NbyNWPoster_1.jpg) (http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/onemoon/NbyNWPoster_4.jpg)

A couple things about this poster that caught my eye:

1. The biggest red flag is the lack of ANY print information on the bottom border (Imprime En Belgique), let alone the words in English, which would also identify this as a later repro.

2. The paper itself looks too thick and too white, IMO.

3. It looks like it was overly folded and the small tear was added to give it a sense of some use and age.

I wrote the seller last night. She wrote back quickly, saying that another person had also written her about the missing printer's info. Because it has an unmet reserve (even with 4 bids), no one has been hooked yet. She wrote me this morning, saying she had amended her posting, but in looking, it still describes this poster as "real," "genuine" and not a possible reproduction, so I'm not sure what she amended exactly.

I asked where she got it and she said she found it in an estate she was clearing out, so she assumed it was genuine.  :-\

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Post by: stewart boyle on April 30, 2012, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 30, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
I started this thread as a joke, and offered to end it. But there are several people who are not dealers who like it a lot.

You must realize it doesn't benefit me in any way, both because I don't post my items here, and because everyone here knows about my auctions anyway.

I would say this is Thierry's and Holiday's call.

Bruce
Bruce,there is nothing wrong with any of your posts,keep em coming.

Stew
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Post by: Charlie on April 30, 2012, 01:10:19 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
A Belgian NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959) (most likely reproduction) poster is being offered as the real deal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170828894810?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Bruce recently sold a chopped version of this poster w/o printer credits?  How can we be sure its a repro and not just a RR?

http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/archive_image.php?id=9057662
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 01:36:32 PM
I would think a RR would have the "Imprime En Belgique" on it, as well. As mentioned, later RR or reissues often had "Printed In Belgium" (in english) on them. Because this is void of anything, it caught my eye, and at least one other, who contacted this seller.
 
This piece of info is also always stressed to be on the lookout for, with Belgians (even tho a later repro of an original would also have this info on the border).

Unless there were certain times/studios in which Belgian posters were printed, free of any printer's mark?

Maybe it is legit, as well?

The mystery thickens.
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Post by: paul waines on April 30, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Some don't have Imprime en Belgique on them, but you can tell by the phone number these ones have instead...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 02:37:01 PM
Here are 2 closeups of the left and right bottom border corners, from this 1959 North By Northwest Belgian poster. Both contain printer information. Images courtesy of HA.

Full:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f6%2f2%2f4%2f8%2f6248135.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)

Left Corner:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/7129090341_d3af34e02d_z.jpg)

Right Corner:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7230/7129090371_12c9c62d5e.jpg)
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Post by: enki on April 30, 2012, 02:49:36 PM
This is one of my favorite threads to read. I certainly hope it doesn't, and see no reason why it should, get removed. I think it serves a useful and amusing purpose (as does the Post-Auction one).
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Post by: paul waines on April 30, 2012, 02:56:31 PM
 :-X
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 30, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Some don't have Imprime en Belgique on them, but you can tell by the phone number these ones have instead...

Paul, I have seen this too, but it was usually on older pieces from the 1920s, '30s and '40's:

Here is a close up of the printer's info, including the address and phone number, on a 1940's Belgian GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN poster (image court. of emovieposter). This particular poster does not have the exact words, Imprime En Belgique, printed on it.

"Cree' et Imprime par" translates into "Created and Printed by":

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/6983135322_133a5a3a02_b.jpg)










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Post by: stewart boyle on April 30, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
Paul, I have seen this too, but it was usually on older pieces from the 1920s, '30s and '40's:

Here is a close up of the printer's info, including the address and phone number, on a 1940's Belgian GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN poster (image court. of emovieposter). This particular poster does not have the exact words, Imprime En Belgique, printed on it.

"Cree' et Imprime par" translates into "Created and Printed by":

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/6983135322_133a5a3a02_b.jpg)











Cree sounds more French than Belgique.
Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 30, 2012, 12:29:01 PM
Also, objectivity/subjectivity has nothing to do with this, but to even go on this basis, objectivity (or literal and external reality) would be the fact that you can read others opinions for the contrary of what you cast aside. The all or nothing approach is an excuse to be disrespectful, flippant, and lazy.

Ben.. it is neither flipant nor disrespectful.
there are 2 opinions on the subject, just like there are 2 opinions to everything. What you feel about something is not what I have to feel about the same subject. We are on opposite sides of the fence on the issue, which here, on this forum has been decided not by Bruce, not by myself, nor Harry, Dale, Mel or yourself. It was decided by Holiday & Thierry who will not censor anyone. If they decide to change the rules and Mel or myself continue to post after that point, it would be disrespectful.. Until that point, it is completely "lawful" by the rules as they are in place.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
as someone of Belgian descent, I wish to inform you that in Belgium, several languages are spoken: Belgian, French, Dutch, Flemish, German, Italian and others.. this is why Belgian posters are in French, Flemish & Dutch or German and sometimes some English also
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Post by: Silhouette on April 30, 2012, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
as someone of Belgian descent, I wish to inform you that in Belgium, several languages are spoken: Belgian, French, Dutch, Flemish, German, Italian and others.. this is why Belgian posters are in French, Flemish & Dutch or German and sometimes some English also

As someone who has watched Hercule Poirot I always understood Flemish was actually the Dutch language and that there was no such language called Belgian.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on April 30, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
Cree sounds more French than Belgique.
Stew

It is French, Stew.  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on April 30, 2012, 04:18:06 PM
As someone who has watched Hercule Poirot I always understood Flemish was actually the Dutch language and that there was no such language called Belgian.

Right, Dave. There is no such language simply referred to as "Belgian."

One may refer to a "Belgian French" dialect being spoken, however.

A quick search online found:

There are 3 official languages in Belgium: Dutch, French and German.

Dutch is spoken by 60% of the people, living in the Northern Flemish region.

French is spoken by 40% of the people, living in the Southern Walloon region.

German is spoken in a small part in Eastern Wallonia.


Most people speak at least one foreign language since everyone learns the second major language on school from (at least) the age of 10. German is spoken by less than 1% of the Belgians, living in a small eastern region. Most people of the German speaking region speak both other languages as well. Also a lot of people speak English. Learning languages as German and Spanish is also popular among the general population.

In the Flemish region, Dutch is the only official language.
In the Walloon region, French is the only official language.
The Brussels Capital Region is officially bi-lingual- French/Flemish.

There is also a part of people who speak not one of the official languages. Most of them are the first generation of immigrants. Most languages in this category are Turkish, Arabic and Italian.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_languages_are_spoken_in_Belgium#ixzz1tYdz2YgB
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Post by: stewart boyle on April 30, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
It is French, Stew.  ;)
Yay,check me out,I know stuff.
 stew
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on April 30, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
Yay,check me out,I know stuff.
 stew

Oui, oui!   ;D


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Post by: Silhouette on April 30, 2012, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 30, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
A quick search online found:

There are 3 official languages in Belgium: Dutch, French and German.


OK, so Hercule was right - there no such language as Belgian, Flemish is Dutch and languages like Italian are spoken because they are immigrants and not because it is a language 'of' Belgium
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
Flemish is an amalgamated language that involves parts of Dutch, French, German, Alsatian dialects etc.
Belgian is a slightty different variation of Flemish. Depending on what part of the state you are in (north, south, east, west) different dialects are spoken involving different parts of these languages. It is very much like Chinese languages where you have several major regional dialects that all rely on the same basics, but are each very different

in Belgium, a large % of the people speak all the local languages and infuse words from each into their own personal bastardization of the language

It's alot like being in Spanish Harlem in NYC where some may use this sentence with English & Spanish
"Oy conyo, what the Ferq are you doing Pinche idiota?"
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 05:57:01 PM
I should also mention, the common versions of languages spoken in Belgium are the French dialects of Belgian/Flemish and probably also French itself
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Post by: Silhouette on April 30, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
There is no language that is referred to as "Belgian", unless one means the language of the people known to Julius Caesar as the Belgae, after whom Belgium is named.
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Post by: archie leach on April 30, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 28, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
Incidentally, I saw a friend of mine from college in Chicago last week and noticed he had a bunch of posters and crap in his closet. I found one of these FC posters ('works great on blood stains') beat to hell and laminated all curled up in a box. I asked him when he got it, and he laughed and said he got it at Suncoast after I told him about them being there. Never knew he went back and picked one up after myself and my roommate were tempted.

So there yinz go.

Good to know.  That was the same time-frame ('98-'02ish) that I made a point to look through the Suncoast posters any time I hit the mall.  I have a vague recollection of seeing the Fight Club character posters there, which wouldn't be surprising considering the Pitt draw factor...
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Post by: oldposterho on April 30, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
Would just like to point out that the tell for repros is "Printed in Belgium."  I've seen all sorts of variations of the printers info, but they're always in French or some other non-American ( 8) ) language.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
David, my mother is from Belgium.. where is yours from??

 hitself
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Post by: Silhouette on April 30, 2012, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
David, my mother is from Belgium.. where is yours from??

Rich as you asked, and I am sure she will appreciate your interest too, my mother was born in New Zealand to Australian and New Zealand parents. Like my mother they both spoke English. Your mother on the other hand seems to be the only person ever to have spoken Belgian?

Rich I am not doubting your heritage however you seemed to be confused over what languages are spoken as a 'native tongue' of Belgian (for want of a better phrase). There is simply no such language as Belgian, Hercule Poirot never spoke it and your mum never spoke it. She may have spoken Dutch (formally known as Flemish) and she may have spoken French, indeed she may have spoken German because those are the official languages of Belgium.

I am happy enough if you leave it as that.
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on April 30, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Like most everything this could all be solved with a simple Google search and a reference to Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_language

"Belgian is a hypothetical extinct Indo-European language."
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Post by: Ari on April 30, 2012, 11:08:26 PM
my good buddy from Belgium speaks, Flemish (1st), English, German, French and some spanish. I think this sort of thing is pretty common for not only Belgians, but many europeans. Except those darn French, who think there is only one language, and some other one, they have to speak because they are forced to ;)

PS I have a french friend who speaks fluent mandarin (and passable english), so what do I know?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 30, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
So who's gonna pony up $80 million for "The Scream" on Wednesday? (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/the-scream-heads-for-the-auction-block/)

P.S. I wonder who gets the "Preferred Log-In"?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Scream.jpg)
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Post by: archie leach on April 30, 2012, 11:36:47 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 30, 2012, 11:12:12 PM
So who's gonna pony up $80 million for "The Scream" on Wednesday? (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/the-scream-heads-for-the-auction-block/)

Considering that it is one of four, it's more like 'A Scream'...

BTW, I've been to the Munch Museum in Oslo and beyond 'The Scream' and one other painting, the rest of his work was remarkably dull.
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Post by: CSM on April 30, 2012, 11:48:39 PM
Quote from: archie leach on April 30, 2012, 11:36:47 PM
Considering that it is one of four, it's more like 'A Scream'...


Correct.  I wonder if this is one of the versions that was stolen?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 30, 2012, 11:58:21 PM
It is not.
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Post by: CSM on May 01, 2012, 12:21:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on April 30, 2012, 11:58:21 PM
It is not.

Guess if I had read the description a bit further I would have known that  eyeroll
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Post by: holiday on May 01, 2012, 12:35:45 AM
It is one of my favorite works.  If I had the money, I'd be in the running to be sure.  I saw a Munch exhibit when we were in NY a few years ago, at MOMA.  It was pretty neat to see a few of the versions in person.
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Post by: Ari on May 01, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
it is great, personally I would be happier with a repro and a LOT of change. ;)
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Post by: wonka on May 01, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 30, 2012, 03:52:33 PM
Ben.. it is neither flipant nor disrespectful.
there are 2 opinions on the subject, just like there are 2 opinions to everything. What you feel about something is not what I have to feel about the same subject. We are on opposite sides of the fence on the issue, which here, on this forum has been decided not by Bruce, not by myself, nor Harry, Dale, Mel or yourself. It was decided by Holiday & Thierry who will not censor anyone. If they decide to change the rules and Mel or myself continue to post after that point, it would be disrespectful.. Until that point, it is completely "lawful" by the rules as they are in place.

More than opinions...I get that we don't agree.

What you don't get is the considerate factor.

The other day, my neighbor (two doors down) asked if I could stop my mower and finish cutting my grass later on, then ran in his house. I didn't understand and was a bit put out, and while I had the lawful right to keep cutting my damn grass, I thought it important to be 'neighborly' and respectful of his wishes. Later that night, he came over and told me how his little girl is sick, and was having trouble sleeping. She was just about to fall asleep when my mower was a bit much in terms of noise, and he was really thankful for me doing him the favor. I didn't need to cut the grass then anyway.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 01, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
What you don't get is the considerate factor.

works two ways Ben.. I happen to think it's very considerate of someone to spend his time searching so he could tell others about what he has found, while you think it is in inconsiderate of him doing same.
What I don't understand is why you or anyone else thinks what you believe is inconsiderate has more weight than what I think is considerate and that I should bend to your ways. As long as we abide by the rules, there is no law broken.
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Post by: wonka on May 01, 2012, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
works two ways Ben.. I happen to think it's very considerate of someone to spend his time searching so he could tell others about what he has found, while you think it is in inconsiderate of him doing same.
What I don't understand is why you or anyone else thinks what you believe is inconsiderate has more weight than what I think is considerate and that I should bend to your ways. As long as we abide by the rules, there is no law broken.

Wow.

Are you sure you aren't a closet Republican?
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Post by: wonka on May 01, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
Actually, I will go back to the grass story.

You would have told the neighbor that you wouldn't 'bend to his ways' and continued to cut your grass?
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on May 01, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on April 30, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Like most everything this could all be solved with a simple Google search and a reference to Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_language

"Belgian is a hypothetical extinct Indo-European language."

I think I had this discussion with Rich before. It's no use, his mother is from Belgium and he is from Las Vegas.
To settle this for once and all. There are three official languages in Belgium: Dutch, French and German. The two most used and taking care of a severe political division are Dutch and French. Those you'll find on posters. I've never seen German on a Belgian poster. More wiki-proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Belgium
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 01, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
You would have told the neighbor that you wouldn't 'bend to his ways' and continued to cut your grass?

I certainly would have stopped mowing the lawn if my neighbor asked me and I certainly would have asked him if there was a problem so that I could prevent such an issue in the future is necessary (I've actually been there before, by the way). But your lawn story bears nothing in common with the posting issue Ben.. The facts are simple here.. Mel is not breaking any rule as set forth by the forum owners. As far as I'm concerned, outing an auction here, when it is listed publicly to begin with, is a neutral event to me. It is neither a benefit nor a hindrance and to be honest, even if it was a privately held sale and Mel or someone else posted it.. that's their business anyway. Has nothing to do with me. If everyone here wishes to post a link to every Raymond Chandler poster that ever comes up for sale - whether I have the poster or not - it also means nothing to me. Will it make me pay more for something down the road? I have no proof to say it will, just as I have no proof to say it won't, ergo it is a neutral event and I play my way regardless and hey, there is always the 1% chance that someone has found something I have not and that may work for me.

This is where being objective or subjective is pertinent. Subjectivity is seeing only how something affects you or whatever you consider your tight circle, objectivity is being able to see all sides of any issue - even before said issue becomes an issue. I think this situation about Mel or anyone else outing auctions that are already public is a neutral non-event and I personally and subjectively think it's a ridiculous discussion..
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
the Belgian languages thing is another ridiculous non-issue.

 :P
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on May 01, 2012, 04:15:12 PM
 :) hi (Dutch for ha!)
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Post by: Silhouette on May 01, 2012, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
the Belgian languages thing is another ridiculous non-issue.

Of course it's ridiculous, and if only you had bowed out gracefully and accepted that what others might have to add was right and what you had to say was wrong.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
it doesn't shock me that some schmuck gets a boner over such stupid stuff..
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Post by: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 04:24:18 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 01, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
it doesn't shock me that some schmuck gets a boner over such stupid stuff..

Geeze Rich you still going?

If ego was a measure for intelligence then you'd be the smartest guy in the world, unfortunately with every utterance you completely dumb down that possibility.
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Post by: Bruce on May 02, 2012, 06:27:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0)
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Post by: 50s on May 02, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/tintin_boner.gif)


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Post by: Ari on May 02, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
I saw a Belgian Milk Maid and got a boner, we ate french fries and drank german beer, while listening to Mozart and dancing in clogs. She spoke Latvian BTW.
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Post by: 110x75 on May 02, 2012, 10:20:12 AM
Sound fun Ari. Got any pics?  :)
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 02, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/tintin_boner.gif)




 ;D
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Post by: Ari on May 02, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 02, 2012, 10:20:12 AM
Sound fun Ari. Got any pics?  :)

yep, yours for only $9.99 or three pretty woman 1 sheets.
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Post by: 110x75 on May 02, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: Ari on May 02, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
yep, yours for only $9.99 or three pretty woman 1 sheets.

packing those suckers safely to make sure they get to you intact is too much work. You take paypal, right?
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Post by: Ari on May 02, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
yeah, used paypal bills in Australian Dollars (US is worth peanuts)
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Post by: 110x75 on May 02, 2012, 10:50:56 AM
Quote from: Ari on May 02, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
(US is worth peanuts)

Oh, you should see our pesos...  eyeroll
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 01:44:57 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 04:24:18 AM
Geeze Rich you still going?

If ego was a measure for intelligence then you'd be the smartest guy in the world, unfortunately with every utterance you completely dumb down that possibility.

David.. I don't have to walk very far to find words to explain your personal ignorance.. I give you a boner.. I think that's funny.. You're busy looking for me to make small mistakes in life so you can latch on to them.. I think that's perfect.. It means I own you. Like Pavlov's dog I can make you jump & twirl.. I think you're twirling on something right now.. I own you.. Muah hahahahahaha.. Twirl puppy.. twirl.. Muah hahahahahahahaha
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Post by: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: 50s on May 02, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/tintin_boner.gif)




And how would one say that, in Belgian?  (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-confused.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 01:49:33 PM
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/silouhette.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
so to get this thread back on track... did any of you even bid on this Creature poster which sold for a very very bery low price even though it was outed here on this forum?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170830276230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I guess that blows holes in the idea that because something is outed on the all-showing APF that the price will jump to Empire State Building-like heights
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
Technically, shouldn't this question really now be in the Post-auction thread, since it is over and ended yesterday?   ;D

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 02:37:14 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
Technically, shouldn't this question really now be in the Post-auction thread, since it is over and ended yesterday?   ;D



LOL.. you are correct.. but I'll leave it here as it is pertinent to the previously discussed issue
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
so to get this thread back on track... did any of you even bid on this Creature poster which sold for a very very bery low price even though it was outed here on this forum?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170830276230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I guess that blows holes in the idea that because something is outed on the all-showing APF that the price will jump to Empire State Building-like heights

What makes you think that was a "very very bery low price"?  Looks pretty high for a damaged re-release poster on eBay (which nearly always sell for less)!  

HA 1954 release for $402 in 2006 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=56111&lotNo=25076
HA 1962 RR for $450 in VF condition in 2009: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7008&lotNo=85959

I would say that blows holes in your theory, but I'm not foolish enough to believe that one example is representative of every outcome for something as random as movie poster auctions.   :P


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Post by: Neo on May 02, 2012, 02:59:49 PM
 rofl1  The newly rejuvenated Rich vs. David saga might be the funniest saga I've ever seen.   sm1

Re: the Creature From the Black Lagoon 1P, that price didn't seem very low to me, either.  On the show Inside West Coast Customs a few weeks ago, an office for a Star Wars team had one that was framed next to another French 1P, I can't remember of the other one, but they looked awesome.
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Post by: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 03:21:56 PM
Morning all, well I had a great night's sleep and awake to find Rich still going. Remember Rich you said "as someone of Belgian descent, I wish to inform you that in Belgium, several languages are spoken: Belgian, French, Dutch, Flemish, German, Italian and others.. this is why Belgian posters are in French, Flemish & Dutch or German and sometimes some English also" You were imparting information as fact and by saying you were of Belgian descent you in effect were trying to reinforce that statement.

I simply asked (politely) "I always understood Flemish was actually the Dutch language and that there was no such language called Belgian." I didn't even bother with the Italian statement because that was plain silly...but you know that now don't you? Then a whole lot of other people confirmed that basically what I had said was right and as you hate being corrected you lost it, once again.

So go ahead show me where: (a) Belgium is a spoken language (b) Flemish and Dutch are not essentially the same thing (c) and an example of a Belgian poster printed in German - I'd be happy with 2 out of 3.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
What makes you think that was a "very very bery low price"?  Looks pretty high for a damaged re-release poster on eBay (which nearly always sell for less)!  

HA 1954 release for $402 in 2006 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=56111&lotNo=25076
HA 1962 RR for $450 in VF condition in 2009: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7008&lotNo=85959

I would say that blows holes in your theory, but I'm not foolish enough to believe that one example is representative of every outcome for something as random as movie poster auctions.   :P



Matt, as a side note -- the first auction you referenced was actually misidentified by HA as a 1954 first release French 1P. It isn't, but is also another 1962 RR, as evidenced by it also being printed with the same Visa de Censure number (No. 641) as the other. These Visa numbers were begun to be put on French posters in the early 1960's. The 1954 release French 1P shows a full bodied creature coming up behind Julia Adams in the water. I think I have the image. I will post, when I locate it. ;)

Here is a closeup side by side of the Visa numbers from the mislabeled, "1954 release" (on the left) and the 1962 RR on the right (both from the auctions you indicated). They are identical:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/7136445445_2194ae1479.jpg)  (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6990359966_09e46e12bf.jpg)


Here is the same Visa No. on the French medium '62 RR:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/7136545641_3428547623.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
What makes you think that was a "very very bery low price"?  Looks pretty high for a damaged re-release poster on eBay (which nearly always sell for less)!  

HA 1954 release for $402 in 2006 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=56111&lotNo=25076
HA 1962 RR for $450 in VF condition in 2009: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7008&lotNo=85959

on retail lists Matt, that poster is up to $1500 and sometimes more. being posted here did absolutely NOTHING to raise the final price
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
Jump David Jump..
spin & twirl..

Muhahahahahahahaha
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Post by: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
so to get this thread back on track... did any of you even bid on this Creature poster which sold for a very very bery low price even though it was outed here on this forum?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170830276230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I guess that blows holes in the idea that because something is outed on the all-showing APF that the price will jump to Empire State Building-like heights

I was more interested in how cheap the Charlie Chan in Paris went for; that will come up again nice and restored...  Wish I had the balls to buy and flip stuff at that price...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
I was more interested in how cheap the Charlie Chan in Paris went for; that will come up again nice and restored...  Wish I had the balls to buy and flip stuff at that price...

I was going to bid on that piece as you know it has to be rare. However when it wasn't outed on this forum, I was sure it would not go for any real money, but alas.. it went too high because some lurker on this site bought it
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
on retail lists Matt, that poster is up to $1500 and sometimes more. being posted here did absolutely NOTHING to raise the final price

Rich, you know very well a "retail list price" means nothing.
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 04:25:42 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 03:21:56 PM
Morning all, well I had a great night's sleep and awake to find Rich still going. Remember Rich you said "as someone of Belgian descent, I wish to inform you that in Belgium, several languages are spoken: Belgian, French, Dutch, Flemish, German, Italian and others.. this is why Belgian posters are in French, Flemish & Dutch or German and sometimes some English also" You were imparting information as fact and by saying you were of Belgian descent you in effect were trying to reinforce that statement.

I simply asked (politely) "I always understood Flemish was actually the Dutch language and that there was no such language called Belgian." I didn't even bother with the Italian statement because that was plain silly...but you know that now don't you? Then a whole lot of other people confirmed that basically what I had said was right and as you hate being corrected you lost it, once again.

So go ahead show me where: (a) Belgium is a spoken language (b) Flemish and Dutch are not essentially the same thing (c) and an example of a Belgian poster printed in German - I'd be happy with 2 out of 3.



I guess we are still waiting?  (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-rolleye0012.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-rolleye0012.gif)

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Post by: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
on retail lists Matt, that poster is up to $1500 and sometimes more. being posted here did absolutely NOTHING to raise the final price

I guess that means I got a killer deal on my Pretty Woman 1-sheet for $5... it lists for $495!!!!!  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
I guess that means I got a killer deal on my Pretty Woman 1-sheet for $5... it lists for $495!!!!!  


We have all also seen them for $555.00!!    :o


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
the CFTBL poster should have sold for at least $100 more. In Bruce's venue it most definitely would have. Maybe in Heritage as well as you never know what it will bring from one day to the next. But it was a bargain price, especially considering what some of Claude's other items went for. Claude has nice stuff & is a great guy.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 04:25:42 PM


I guess we are still waiting?  (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-rolleye0012.gif) (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-rolleye0012.gif)



muhahahahahahahaha.. Pavlov has two dogs now.. muhahahahahahaha

jump
twirl

muhahahahahahahaha
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Post by: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 04:42:32 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
I was more interested in how cheap the Charlie Chan in Paris went for; that will come up again nice and restored...  Wish I had the balls to buy and flip stuff at that price...

And it appears to have been printed only in French.  ;)
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Post by: Bruce on May 02, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 04:42:17 PM
muhahahahahahahaha.. Pavlov has two dogs now.. muhahahahahahaha

jump
twirl

muhahahahahahahaha

Now taking pre-publication orders:

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Rich Halegua.

Sure to be a best-seller!
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on May 02, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Who here is Schrödinger's cat?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on May 02, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Who here is Schrödinger's cat?

one of Pavlov's dogs is chasing it right now. I haven't given the order to stop

 wynk
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 02, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
Now taking pre-publication orders:

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Rich Halegua.

Sure to be a best-seller!

My book is only about how to influence people. My other book is about the neutrality of $14 buyer premiums when paying attention to mathematical solutions

wynk
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Post by: jayn_j on May 02, 2012, 05:49:22 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on May 02, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Who here is Schrödinger's cat?

I feel so miserably dead, that I must be alive.
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
the CFTBL poster should have sold for at least $100 more. In Bruce's venue it most definitely would have. Maybe in Heritage as well as you never know what it will bring from one day to the next. But it was a bargain price, especially considering what some of Claude's other items went for. Claude has nice stuff & is a great guy.

Are you still trying to prop up your strawman?  You are contradicting yourself...

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
the point is: no one here has any empirical data to back up any such claim

You were saying that there is no empirical evidence to back up my claim that there was a "minuscule" chance that someone's bid might be affected from outing an auction.  However, you say with all certainty and a straight face that this poster "should have sold for at least $100 more"?   You claim the data is not reliable, but then try to use it in your defense.   eyeroll

I'm not even claiming that we need data.  I'm just saying there is a chance, however small, that bids could be affected and that means I won't take the chance of screwing someone over.  We clearly disagree, but don't try to claim gallery prices should be used for comparisons or that you can predict the price of one of Bruce's auctions.  That's just madness.
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 02, 2012, 05:49:43 PM
That's just madness.

Well there IS a lot of sun in Las Vegas, sun and hookers
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Post by: brude on May 02, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
People who out auctions....

(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/ctdoktfn.jpeg)
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: brude on May 02, 2012, 06:05:41 PM
People who out auctions....

(http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/ctdoktfn.jpeg)

That's right Ted - they shouldn't exist
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:12:28 PM
I might have to conspire with Mel to out lots of auctions.. before I do that, please, anyone who finds posters on these titles below.. please out them.. Tell everyone.. it won't bother me one wit. You can be sure I'll be interested in them, so you might very well cost me another $10.... The horror of it!!!

here ya go.. you find 'em, I want 'em... I'll bid bid bid.. ka-ching $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Falcon Takes Over
Time to Kill
Double Indemnity
And Now Tomorrow
Murder My Sweet
the Unseen
Blue Dahlia
Big Sleep
Lady in the Lake
Brasher Doubloon
Strangers on a Train
Marlowe
Long Goodbye
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:13:31 PM
how come nobody has outed any of them yet??? aren't you folks working hard to cost me a few dollars..??

 :'(
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:15:42 PM
I sure hope the lurkers don't see the post when you out a Falcon Takes Over lobby card set improperly listed in Magazines/Collectible/Motorcycle/covers with big boobed women in bikinis

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/2010VictoryCORE.jpg)

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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 03:52:25 PM
I was going to bid on that piece as you know it has to be rare. However when it wasn't outed on this forum, I was sure it would not go for any real money, but alas.. it went too high because some lurker on this site bought it
How do you know that it was bought by a lurker Rich ?

Stew
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Post by: 50s on May 02, 2012, 06:34:37 PM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/QuestionPicture.jpg)


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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:12:28 PM
I might have to conspire with Mel to out lots of auctions.. before I do that, please, anyone who finds posters on these titles below.. please out them.. Tell everyone.. it won't bother me one wit. You can be sure I'll be interested in them, so you might very well cost me another $10.... The horror of it!!!

here ya go.. you find 'em, I want 'em... I'll bid bid bid.. ka-ching $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Falcon Takes Over
Time to Kill
Double Indemnity
And Now Tomorrow
Murder My Sweet
the Unseen
Blue Dahlia
Big Sleep
Lady in the Lake
Brasher Doubloon
Strangers on a Train
Marlowe
Long Goodbye
Am I getting this wrong,you want me to search the web for posters you want,just so you can slam an over price $$$$$$(yawn) bid ?

Stew
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Post by: brude on May 02, 2012, 06:36:32 PM
I think Rich had an aneurism or somethin'...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:42:24 PM
Stewart's real name is Dr Sheldon Cooper

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/sheldon_cooper.jpg)
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: brude on May 02, 2012, 06:36:32 PM
I think Rich had an aneurism or somethin'...

Hope not, Rich, I'll have a double Vodka  mate. :-)
Stew
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 06:47:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:42:24 PM
Stewart's real name is Dr Sheldon Cooper

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/sheldon_cooper.jpg)
He he he

Stew
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Post by: 110x75 on May 02, 2012, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
My book is only about how to influence people. My other book is about the neutrality of $14 buyer premiums when paying attention to mathematical solutions

wynk

Will you be giving them free in Movieposterbid auctions? 
I want to influence Matt into outing auctions and Mel protesting against it... wynk
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 06:51:27 PM
This one sheet just sold on 4/28, speaking of Doubloons:


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqJHJE0E92MM4Z3OBPk2tNNRh!~~60_1.JPG)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 06:51:27 PM
This one sheet just sold on 4/28, speaking of Doubloons:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqJHJE0E92MM4Z3OBPk2tNNRh!~~60_1.JPG)

Yep.. it was only $250!!.. No matter. I already have a NM 1sh on the title.. so you'll have to try to stab me with something else.. a broken sliver of glass maybe

wynk
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 02, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
The reinforcements have arrived Rich!

Our opponents are burying their heads in the sand pretending that competition doesn't exist:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif)

Wake up, people!  The chance of getting a bargain is inversely proportional to the number of watchers/bidders and drops to nearly zero when the number of bidders and/or watchers reaches a certain threshold, and it's ridiculous and asinine to pretend otherwise.  At that point, it's entirely appropriate to discuss it. Current examples (with number of watchers as of 7pm EDT tonight):

40 watchers, 13 bids.  Chance of getting a bargain?  Very low to nonexistent.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/40watchers-Bogart.jpg)

32 watchers, 5 bidders. Chance of getting a bargain?  Very low.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/32-Odyssey.jpg)

25 watchers, 19 bids. Chance of getting a bargain?  Low.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/25watchers-Marilyn-1.jpg)

5 bidders in the first day on Emovie.  Chance of getting a bargain?  Low.  (And I agree with Rich that it's tough to ever get a bargain on Emovie's best stuff.)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Taxi.jpg)
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 07:29:07 PM
"our opponents"
Jeez

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 02, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Our opponents are burying their heads in the sand pretending that competition doesn't exist:(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Ostrich-man-head-in-sand.gif)

these are our other opponents

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/head_up_ass1.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/head_up_ass2.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/head_up_ass3.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
Quote from: brude on May 02, 2012, 06:36:32 PM
I think Rich had an aneurism or somethin'...

 pcorn
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Post by: Zorba on May 02, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 07:29:07 PM
"our opponents"
Jeez

Stew

You guys must be the Legion of Doom  :P

 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 07:43:30 PM
the Avengers
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 07:45:02 PM
"The chance of getting a bargain is inversely proportional to the number of watchers/bidders and drops to nearly zero when the number of bidders and/or watchers reaches a certain threshold."


And this is known to be true and factual, based on?

And what is this "certain threshold" number that is being talking about? Where did the "theshold" number come from?


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Post by: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: Zorba on May 02, 2012, 07:39:18 PM
You guys must be the Legion of Doom  :P

 
At some point a hot chick will walk round the ring.

Stew
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Post by: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 06:13:31 PM
how come nobody has outed any of them yet??? aren't you folks working hard to cost me a few dollars..??

 :'(

Isn't the long goodbye on emovie right now...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 07:48:28 PM
Or maybe just a whole lot of:

(http://i37.tinypic.com/5l5fts.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on May 02, 2012, 07:49:30 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
At some point a hot chick will walk round the ring.

Stew

Maybe but I didnt mean this Legion of Doom
(http://pixelatedgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/legion-of-doom-hawk-and-animal.jpg)

I meant this one...
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9357/legion-doom.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 02, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
pcorn

(http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-fighting0083.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Isn't the long goodbye on emovie right now...

have it
find something else
 :P
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 02, 2012, 07:45:46 PM
At some point a hot chick will walk round the ring.

Stew

Or a chick blowing rings---

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/115131334/Blowing_smoke_up_your_ass_by_AlanWebber.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on May 02, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 02, 2012, 07:17:21 PM
Wake up, people!  The chance of getting a bargain is inversely proportional to the number of watchers/bidders and drops to nearly zero when the number of bidders and/or watchers reaches a certain threshold, and it's ridiculous and asinine to pretend otherwise.  At that point, it's entirely appropriate to discuss it.

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/556/picture11l.png)
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Mel had a different avatar back then so obviously that earlier, contradictory post no longer exists in current APF reality
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Post by: ddilts399 on May 02, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
Lord, I think some folks must live in a fantasy world sometimes. It doesnt matter if there are 1 or 100 watchers it is the 101st that had a long week at work and no time to look for auctions all week but sat down, read the forum and saw your post and decided to bid an extra 50.00 that makes a difference. If you bid on obscure stuff no one cares about but you and another guy 12 times zones away of course you wouldn't think it makes a difference.
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Post by: wonka on May 02, 2012, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 02, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Mel had a different avatar back then so obviously that earlier, contradictory post no longer exists in current APF reality

Ha, yep.

I miss the Princess Bride days. The bigger issue however, is that the argument that Mel poses here in his initial post on the matter is very concise and thoughtful, well put and executed in an agreeable and mediated tone...

But now those who agreed with this sentiment of his that he once had...well we all have our head in the sand our up our ass.
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Post by: wonka on May 02, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on May 02, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
It doesnt matter if there are 1 or 100 watchers it is the 101st that had a long week at work and no time to look for auctions all week but sat down, read the forum and saw your post and decided to bid an extra 50.00 that makes a difference.

 sm1
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Post by: brude on May 02, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on May 02, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
Lord, I think some folks must live in a fantasy world sometimes. It doesnt matter if there are 1 or 100 watchers it is the 101st that had a long week at work and no time to look for auctions all week but sat down, read the forum and saw your post and decided to bid an extra 50.00 that makes a difference. If you bid on obscure stuff no one cares about but you and another guy 12 times zones away of course you wouldn't think it makes a difference.

 cheers
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 02, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 02, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/556/picture11l.png)


Nothing like one accused of "having his head in the sand" revealing another who has his foot in his mouth!

  cheers
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
To be somewhat fair to Mel - didn't Bruce actually start the mid-auction thread?
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Post by: wonka on May 02, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 02, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
To be somewhat fair to Mel - didn't Bruce actually start the mid-auction thread?

Yes, but it was a 'joke' as he put it.

The origin doesn't matter, though.
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Post by: CSM on May 02, 2012, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 02, 2012, 10:45:59 PM
Yes, but it was a 'joke' as he put it.

The origin doesn't matter, though.

I just meant that he specifically started the Post-Auction thread to avoid the Mid-Auction discussion. 

But that was then (with the avatar 1.0) and now I am sure if he had to do it all over again he would join Team Richie and start the Mid-Auction thread in a heartbeat...
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Post by: wonka on May 02, 2012, 10:51:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 02, 2012, 10:48:13 PM
I am sure if he had to do it all over again he would join Team Richie

(http://cdn08.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dumb-dumber-poster.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 02, 2012, 10:59:55 PM
Mel's the guy riding shotgun
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Post by: holiday on May 02, 2012, 11:27:50 PM
You know, I should just delete this whole fucking thread so that I can get the good buys!

Or, maybe I should just delete this particular posting:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html)

Can't imagine anyone here knew about this auction.  Really.
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Post by: Charlie on May 02, 2012, 11:28:53 PM
Quote from: holiday on May 02, 2012, 11:27:50 PM
You know, I should just delete this whole fucking thread so that I can get the good buys!

Or, maybe I should just delete this particular posting:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html)

Can't imagine anyone here knew about this auction.  Really.

Asshole!  ;)
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Post by: holiday on May 02, 2012, 11:50:51 PM
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
Holiday is my hero..

I might even have a boner
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Post by: Zorba on May 03, 2012, 07:33:24 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on May 02, 2012, 09:54:55 PM
Lord, I think some folks must live in a fantasy world sometimes. It doesnt matter if there are 1 or 100 watchers it is the 101st that had a long week at work and no time to look for auctions all week but sat down, read the forum and saw your post and decided to bid an extra 50.00 that makes a difference.

We have a winner.
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Post by: wonka on May 03, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: holiday on May 02, 2012, 11:50:51 PM
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!

Holiday, you completely missed the point, which makes Rich's agreement boner all the more hilarious.

A dealer/seller posting info on their stuff is night and day from an independent third party outing a singular auction at random, and for no reason.

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Post by: Charlie on May 03, 2012, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: holiday on May 02, 2012, 11:50:51 PM
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!

Hell, I got a personal e-mail from the guy on the auctions this morning.  I am really starting to like this guy.
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Post by: Bruce on May 03, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
Holiday is my hero..

I might even have a boner

You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times, but I think that is because you are not reading his comments in the original Belgian!
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Post by: Silhouette on May 03, 2012, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 03, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times, but I think that is because you are not reading his comments in the original Belgian!

I believe this ties all the comments over the last few days together quite nicely... http://bit.ly/IZDNax
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 03, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
That's an old post from two years ago. I've said many times since then that the issue is whether you are realistically depriving someone of a bargain by discussing a pending auction. I used to think a $1,000 threshold was the right balance but now I think the number of watchers/bidders is key. If there are a boatload of watchers/bidders, it's highly probable it will sell for fair market value, so public discussion of it will not affect the final price. And if it does, well that's the "cost" of an interesting forum discussion.


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Post by: Charlie on May 03, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
I think Mondo has brought in a lot of people realizing they can flip posters and since they aren't getting the drops like they used to, they have turned to original posters.  And with increasing prices the poster market will soon suck! The spoils to the dealers...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 03, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times

life is harsh.. if you can't stand the truth.. you already have a problem.

by the way.. has anyone seen this auction yet?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110868057438?

or how about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310397221147?

maybe you didn't know this auction existed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120905989687?
and damn it's a great price and he hasn't been able to sell that thing in months of listing
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 03, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 03, 2012, 03:09:31 PM
That's an old post from two years ago. I've said many times since then that the issue is whether you are realistically depriving someone of a bargain by discussing a pending auction. I used to think a $1,000 threshold was the right balance but now I think the number of watchers/bidders is key. If there are a boatload of watchers/bidders, it's highly probable it will sell for fair market value, so public discussion of it will not affect the final price. And if it does, well that's the "cost" of an interesting forum discussion.


So you are changing your "rules" again Mel?
What about auctions with no bids (you can't see the number of watchers)?
What about auctions that aren't on eBay?  
What about my $305 Breakfast at Tiffany's 1-sheet that had several bids and lots of watchers, but had a poor description that ultimately stopped people from bidding?  
What about auctions that you are bidding on that have lots of watchers/bidders?
Are you going to publish a list of your rules that state what you will and will not out early so at least we can expect to know when to be fucked over?

As you have stated above, even your own criteria is very subject and inconsistent year to year, week to week.  In that case, can't you just wait a day or two until the auction is over and discuss it then?  If you aren't bidding, you gain nothing by drawing attention to it and discussing it early.  For those who are bidding, you are rolling the dice with their dollars.  

As Rich stated, I can't prove that posting an auction will adversely affect the result.  But on the same token, you can't say with all certainty that you *aren't* adversely affecting the result.  You are kidding yourself if you think you can make that claim with 100% accuracy.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on May 03, 2012, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 03:23:23 PM
life is harsh.. if you can't stand the truth.. you already have a problem.

by the way.. has anyone seen this auction yet?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110868057438?

or how about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310397221147?

maybe you didn't know this auction existed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120905989687?
and damn it's a great price and he hasn't been able to sell that thing in months of listing

Quit breaking the rules Mel has established for us... That 7YI doesn't have any bids yet.   eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 03, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
From the Post-auction thread:

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 03, 2012, 07:32:48 AM
Linen-backed 2001 "Starchild" 1970 (not 1968) re-release(!!!!!).  As discussed on MOPO, Christie's did announce this was the later re-release but it still went for $2,600.  I paid $100 for a ROLLED copy of this exact poster a few months ago:

But you didn't post the link to your $100 Starchild before it ended here, did you?

Maybe that's because you wanted that one for what you thought was a good deal.

Or is another 'rule' that folks can and should post auctions here they have no personal interest in...?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 03, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
Well I'm either outing an auction, or saving someone from buying what looks like a re-pro.....Thoughts..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-007-Goldfinger-Original-UK-Quad-Style-Poster-1964-Rare-Original-/140745733880?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8161809368866600433#ht_593wt_1398
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on May 03, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 03, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
Well I'm either outing an auction, or saving someone from buying what looks like a re-pro.....Thoughts..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-007-Goldfinger-Original-UK-Quad-Style-Poster-1964-Rare-Original-/140745733880?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8161809368866600433#ht_593wt_1398

I saw that one whilst browsing earlier - I'm no Bond expert, but to me, it looks like a repro as it doesn't look folded. What did you think Paul? Seems to have lots of watchers and up to £300, so some people must think it's genuine.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mahmudf on May 03, 2012, 04:16:50 PM
you've got hand it to Mel though, he has a super thick skin which is admirable. I dont think i could stand the heat
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 03, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
The paper quality looks all wrong, it looks like modern printing. I have this poster, and the finish is nothing like this one has. Any one thinking of bidding stay well clear of this one...


Edit:- As I mentioned a few months back, I have seen 30x40 repros of this poster...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: longdog on May 03, 2012, 05:55:15 PM
Yes the paper does look 'off' and a picture of the back might help but the thing that stood out to me was that either the top inch has been trimmed or the overall image has been enlarged.

On the original (below) you can see above her brow line which you can't on the one currently being auctioned.

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/03.GoldfingerQuad.jpg)

-Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 06:19:14 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 03, 2012, 04:10:06 PM
Well I'm either outing an auction, or saving someone from buying what looks like a re-pro.....Thoughts..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-007-Goldfinger-Original-UK-Quad-Style-Poster-1964-Rare-Original-/140745733880?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8161809368866600433#ht_593wt_1398

I believe it's a fake also, largely because the paper has a gloss sheen of the post-1980s period
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 03, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
Or is another 'rule' that folks can and should post auctions here they have no personal interest in...?

I most definitely have an interest in that Postman tc I outed earlier. I'm all for educating the public and for fair competition
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 03, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 03, 2012, 03:27:44 PM

What about auctions that you are bidding on that have lots of watchers/bidders?
 

This is the most important thing (in my opinion, which of course has been stated many times)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 03, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 06:23:17 PM
I most definitely have an interest in that Postman tc I outed earlier. I'm all for educating the public and for fair competition

But will you bid (seriously bid)?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on May 03, 2012, 06:42:54 PM
 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 03, 2012, 06:46:19 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 03, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
The paper quality looks all wrong, it looks like modern printing. I have this poster, and the finish is nothing like this one has.

Goldfinger doesn’t look right to me either. Paul (longdog) is right about the cropping of the golden girl’s eyebrows at the top. It actually looks rather like the 27x36 repro, not the original quad - http://www.ebay.com/itm/190672700123

I asked the seller a few days ago for the exact size, as it looked trimmed. I also asked for confirmation of it being folded, as I couldn’t make out any fold lines. The seller replied within a flash that it measures approx 40x30 (not exact size as I requested) and has never been trimmed to his knowledge. He also said it has been in his family for years, it’s been framed for a long time, and the fold lines are very faint. Interesting.

What is similarly disconcerting is that he is also selling a “totally original” 80s re-release Diamonds Are Forever one sheet measuring 39x25. The only problem being that his close-up shows a copyright date of 1997, along with the phrase “Reproduced by The Vintage Magazine Co”.

Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 03, 2012, 06:29:59 PM
But will you bid (seriously bid)?

very possibly, and I win a high % of things I bid on Chris
I'm as serious a bidder as anyone when I'm bidding.. or why waste my time
yeah it's nice to win something for $3, but if I win at my high snipe of $300, then why would I have any complaints?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 03, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 03, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
very possibly, and I win a high % of things I bid on Chris
I'm as serious a bidder as anyone when I'm bidding.. or why waste my time
yeah it's nice to win something for $3, but if I win at my high snipe of $300, then why would I have any complaints?


Guess I'll just bid $305 since you posted the auction ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on May 04, 2012, 12:02:45 AM
I'd like to see people walk the walk, out auctions and go on to win them. Then I will see they really think there is no issue with outing them... Until then its all bluff to me...

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on May 04, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: wonka on May 03, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
Holiday, you completely missed the point, which makes Rich's agreement boner all the more hilarious.

A dealer/seller posting info on their stuff is night and day from an independent third party outing a singular auction at random, and for no reason.



Oh for Christ's sake, I gave up trying to figure out the point of anything on this forum a long time ago, Ben!  It's all pointless.
Title: an extra 2c and a bedtime story
Post by: Ari on May 04, 2012, 12:33:30 AM
Your Mom lists an old vase she has and doesn't like much. She needs some $ and its been gathering dust.
On the WE LOVE VASES forum, someone sees it, its quite a rare vase, but she has listed it in the fondu section. And has misspelled "Vaze"
Someone on WE LOVE VASES forum posts the auction, laughing at her mistakes.
Someone else on WE LOVE VASES forum is pissed because they assumed they were the ONLY Vase collector who found it (he happened to be looking for a fondu set for his wife).
Now there are a few more potential bidders, who might try for a bargain (added to the million other ebay users who might like Vases and don't bother with forums).

Person who posted auction link, obviously wasn't going to bid, or he wouldn't have posted.
Person who was going to bid, MIGHT still win the auction (as before it was posted he MIGHT win).
Meanwhile all NON forum members who are going to bid have no idea, they have yet another person/s interested.
So all this means.. your Mom has a little more chance of getting what her Vase is worth.
Mom is happy.
Winner is happy as he got the item (might be more than he wished, but he paid what he could afford and what he thought was worth to him/her).
Loser/s are unhappy, but it obviously wasn't worth as much to them as winner.
Thats what auctions are all about.

If an item is correctly listed, well described, nice picture etc. Then outing it here is inconsequential, more people buy posters than join poster forums (or read them), and especially for better items (which is surely all that matter here, cheap posters are dime a dozen surely?).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 04, 2012, 12:49:41 AM
Ari, your theory is missing the main point that makes it moot:

nobody's mother here sells posters
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on May 04, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on May 04, 2012, 01:08:07 AM
And nobody's mother here speaks Belgian, either.  laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on May 04, 2012, 01:19:09 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/Gotcha.gif)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on May 04, 2012, 01:36:24 AM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 04, 2012, 01:08:07 AM
And nobody's mother here speaks Belgian, either.  laugh1

       :)

       ;D

 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on May 05, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: longdog on May 03, 2012, 05:55:15 PM
Yes the paper does look 'off' and a picture of the back might help but the thing that stood out to me was that either the top inch has been trimmed or the overall image has been enlarged.

On the original (below) you can see above her brow line which you can't on the one currently being auctioned.

Yup, I'd steer clear... here is a close-up comparison:

On the left is the seller's copy (taken on a blue background).  On the right is a folded copy from here (taken on a black background): http://www.filmposters.com/movie-poster.asp?ProdID=14819  I wanted to find a comparison picture where you could see the complete poster including the edges.  The seller's uses artwork that has been significantly cropped.  The shadows on her face look too dark too... contrast issues (especially shadow detail) are usually a clear sign of a reproduction.

I feel sorry for the poor sucker who wins this poster.  I bet it goes well north of a $1000.

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8074/screenshot20120505at200.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 05, 2012, 02:27:59 PM
Don't those idiots check out this forum.... we "out" an auction and instead of not bidding, they bid more.... Which just goes to show outing an auction on here, pushes the price right up.... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on May 05, 2012, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 03, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
From the Post-auction thread:

But you didn't post the link to your $100 Starchild before it ended here, did you?

Maybe that's because you wanted that one for what you thought was a good deal.

Or is another 'rule' that folks can and should post auctions here they have no personal interest in...?

wonka,

Do you think you will ever get an answer to this question? 

It seems a double standard. Post auctions that one is NOT interested in, but remain silent about those that one has his or her eye on.  :-\



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: originalcinemaposters on May 05, 2012, 03:25:41 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261013910880?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261013910880?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

i know this "star wars" quad is rare, but serously, this must have quite a limited market, for the completist only!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Steven11788 on May 05, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
not sure if this goes here, but WTF i picked this up for 7 bucks last week, and I see it sale cheap all the time, is there somthing special about these idk

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2557748
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on May 05, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Steven11788 on May 05, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
not sure if this goes here, but WTF i picked this up for 7 bucks last week, and I see it sale cheap all the time, is there somthing special about these idk

Bruce soaks them in LSD. People are always willing to pay a premium for that.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Steven11788 on May 05, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
must be some good shit..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 06, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
Lets just out every auction..... ;D

This is a 80's repro that someone is going to/has already, to over pay on.  Are people just buying any Crap lately. I must get some of my repros up for sale... ;)



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-QUAD-THUNDERBIRDS-/300703406987?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item460351db8b#ht_500wt_1413


I emailed the fellow, he say's he'll tell the buyer when the auction finishes.....yea right!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: quadbod on May 06, 2012, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: paul waines on May 05, 2012, 02:27:59 PM
Don't those idiots check out this forum.... we "out" an auction and instead of not bidding, they bid more.... Which just goes to show outing an auction on here, pushes the price right up.... ;)

GOLDFINGER has topped 500 notes now ... sheeesh!

Best wishes.

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on May 06, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
I haven't seen this poster before. Have you guys?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2554586 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2554586)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/40x60_you_only_live_twice_NZ05162_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 08:46:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 06, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
I haven't seen this poster before. Have you guys?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2554586 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2554586)


It's been at Christies South Ken a couple of times, and I think I even saw it on ebay once, but it's a rare one...

Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on May 06, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
Not sure what this is, although Esquire Magazine is a brit publication..could it have been a give away?

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: paul waines on May 06, 2012, 05:24:26 AM

This is a 80's repro that someone is going to/has already, to over pay on.  Are people just buying any Crap lately. I must get some of my repros up for sale... ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-QUAD-THUNDERBIRDS-/300703406987?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item460351db8b#ht_500wt_1413


Oh dear. At least this one has authentic folds and archival tape repair! In the end nothing really changes - even pre-internet I remember seeing one of these turn up regularly at the film fairs with appropriate "signs of use".

Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 06, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
Not sure what this is, although Esquire Magazine is a brit publication..could it have been a give away?

Stew

Stew, Esquire was a US publication originally. Like the Life Magazine posters, I've always understood they were cross-promotional and used in movie theatres, but maybe one of the US members can verify this for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Waines didn't have some similar cross-promotional quads and DCs in his collection...

Paul 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on May 06, 2012, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
Stew, Esquire was a US publication originally. Like the Life Magazine posters, I've always understood they were cross-promotional and used in movie theatres, but maybe one of the US members can verify this for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Waines didn't have some similar cross-promotional quads and DCs in his collection...

Paul 
Thanks Paul,I learn something new every day..

Regards
Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on May 06, 2012, 10:02:53 AM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 06, 2012, 10:00:33 AM
Thanks Paul,I learn something new every day..

Regards
Stew


1+1=2

(there's another one for ya)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on May 06, 2012, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: Ari on May 06, 2012, 10:02:53 AM

1+1=2

(there's another one for ya)
Where`s my calculator.....

Stew ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 06, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
I haven't seen this poster before. Have you guys?

Actually, I've now seen there is still an example on ebay courtesy of Dave L, and Heritage have sold a few in the past, so where have you been looking Bruce? Or have I fallen into a subtle advertising trap for emovieposter ? ;D
BTW that French Invisible Man is quite amazing.

Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on May 06, 2012, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 10:18:29 AM
subtle

hehe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on May 06, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 05, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Yup, I'd steer clear... here is a close-up comparison:

On the left is the seller's copy (taken on a blue background).  On the right is a folded copy from here (taken on a black background): http://www.filmposters.com/movie-poster.asp?ProdID=14819  I wanted to find a comparison picture where you could see the complete poster including the edges.  The seller's uses artwork that has been significantly cropped.  The shadows on her face look too dark too... contrast issues (especially shadow detail) are usually a clear sign of a reproduction.

I feel sorry for the poor sucker who wins this poster.  I bet it goes well north of a $1000.

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8074/screenshot20120505at200.png)

It sold for $2000.  Ouch.  Mel, how do we find out who won it?  And can they be contacted?  I thought I remember you saying they could...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2012, 01:24:39 PM
Did anyone from APF ever write the Goldfinger quad seller to tell them what they didn't have and get any reply? Or was this seller sitting silent, as far as anyone knows?

Hate to see that someone got taken for 2 grand, potentially. In cases like this, one would think one or 2 "Red Flag" emails to ebay directly, and alerting them, would have been enough for them to cancel this listing before it had a chance to finish.

A real shame. Hopefully, the buyer can be notified. Looks like this was a Private Listing auction. All IDs are hidden.  :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 06, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
What was someone saying about Mr Waines and cross-dressing.... :o





I think I did send an email to the seller, but got no reply, which was why I posted it on here in the hope the guy with too much money and no Knowledge could bail out.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: movieposterstudio on May 06, 2012, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 06, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
What was someone saying about Mr Waines and cross-dressing.... :o

I said cross-PROMOTIONAL, Mr Waines, cross-PROMOTIONAL. Whatever you do in the privacy of your own home is your own business.  :-X

I sent another email to the seller, but that time was met with a stony silence. Going by the number of times "original" is mentioned in the auctions, I don't think he/she was going to be talked out of it. We can only hope the buyer isn't persuaded to pay by cheque, is savvy enough to recognize what they receive, and get a PayPal refund.

Paul
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 05:40:16 PM
By the way, I think pointing out suspect auctions is a perfect use for this thread...

I hope no one is planning on bidding on this Thunderball quad on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/261016505980?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1363)...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqV,!q0E-ZLYf(sPBPosJ0NGmQ~~60_12.JPG)

For starters, it looks far too glossy.  Also, if it truly measures 30x40, the this is printed differently than every other example I could find.  Heritage has sold 3 and Christies has sold 19 (with images, actually much more than 19) and none match the poster on eBay.  Here is an image from Heritage:

(http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames%2f300%2f4%2f6%2f0%2f3%2f4603198.jpg%5d%2ccontinueonerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno_image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source.error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d)

On the originals, the bottom line of text is almost all the way at the bottom (with the fine print text barely making it on the poster) and there is a disproportionately large amount of white space at the top.  It looks like whoever made the repro centered the image vertically.

Buyer beware.  I would also recommend sending the seller links to HA and Christies to let them know this looks suspect.  It has already been bid up to $250.  If the sale goes through I bet it gets close to a grand.  As a Bond quad collector I have to say that all these fakes popping up on eBay is very disconcerting....
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Post by: erik1925 on May 08, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 05, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Yup, I'd steer clear... here is a close-up comparison:

On the left is the seller's copy (taken on a blue background).  On the right is a folded copy from here (taken on a black background): http://www.filmposters.com/movie-poster.asp?ProdID=14819  I wanted to find a comparison picture where you could see the complete poster including the edges.  The seller's uses artwork that has been significantly cropped.  The shadows on her face look too dark too... contrast issues (especially shadow detail) are usually a clear sign of a reproduction.

I feel sorry for the poor sucker who wins this poster.  I bet it goes well north of a $1000.

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8074/screenshot20120505at200.png)


Since this was discussed recently, yet another has appeared on the shores of the bay; this one for $9500.00 (at that price, I hope there wont be an issue with pointing this auction out, for comparative purposes). But this looks to be the real deal. No cropped artwork and the shadows/eyeliner dont appear to be overly dark.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-SEAN-CONNERY-JAMES-BOND-1964-BRITISH-QUAD-NM-/150675533817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2314f62ff9

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODQ0WDExMzk=/$(KGrHqN,!h0E6HQpQFj7BOlMu51LNg~~60_57.JPG)

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Post by: erik1925 on May 08, 2012, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 05:40:16 PM

By the way, I think pointing out suspect auctions is a perfect use for this thread...



I agree on this, wholeheartedly.  thumbup

Edit: and, hopefully, one's suspicions are correct.
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 08, 2012, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 08, 2012, 05:46:22 PM

I agree on this, wholeheartedly.  thumbup
Something else i was thinking about,do we need to move on from the un-written gentlemans agreement of not outing an auction..?
If we tried (vainly) to keep this stuff between our selves,to me it`s just folly...
It would only mean someone else benefits by snatching the poster in question...???

Stew
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Post by: archie leach on May 08, 2012, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 05:40:16 PM
By the way, I think pointing out suspect auctions is a perfect use for this thread...

This too can also be problematic...Just ask Dale about those uncut no-date Revenge of the Jedi one sheets that were Keyser Söze'd from his grasp. 

One man's suspect auction can be another man's potential find.

Just sayin'...
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 06:26:41 PM
Simple, when it doubt, don't post it until after the auction ends.  It seemed pretty clear cut in this case after a bit of research.
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 08, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 06:26:41 PM
Simple, when it doubt, don't post it until after the auction ends.  It seemed pretty clear cut in this case after a bit of research.
Harry,I suspect you where replying to Arch ?

Stew
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Post by: movieposterstudio on May 08, 2012, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 08, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Since this was discussed recently, yet another has appeared on the shores of the bay; this one for $9500.00 (at that price, I hope there wont be an issue with pointing this auction out, for comparative purposes). But this looks to be the real deal. No cropped artwork and the shadows/eyeliner dont appear to be overly dark.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-SEAN-CONNERY-JAMES-BOND-1964-BRITISH-QUAD-NM-/150675533817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2314f62ff9

Yep, it's a real Goldfinger. That's John Hazelton, a reliable long-time seller.

The Thunderball on the other hand looks a wrong 'un. Quads with the print misaligned (or possibly just incorrectly cut) are very unusual but not unknown, but that one looks, well er, minty white. The background colour should be more of a creamy/very light green colour. I've just sent a message to the seller to see if looks are deceptive.

Paul
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Post by: archie leach on May 08, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2012, 06:26:41 PM
Simple, when it doubt, don't post it until after the auction ends.  It seemed pretty clear cut in this case after a bit of research.

I am only speaking in the most abstract here (I tend agree that it looks wobbly), but there are level of clarity and oddballs do pop up from time to time.  Posting known repro like a portal or hairy belt where there is near 100% certainty is one thing, anything else and waters get murkier...

I paused, but ultimately decided to post a warning regarding the 'second printing' Fight Club (where there is less certainty, but certainly questions) before the auction ended only because we've had a number of new members come aboard since they were discussed and Bruce had already flogged the listing on here multiple times.

It's a sliding scale is all that I'm saying...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 08, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 06, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
It sold for $2000.  Ouch.  Mel, how do we find out who won it?  And can they be contacted?  I thought I remember you saying they could...

My best guess is that it is a trimmed original.  As you noted the poster has been cropped at the top but it may a trim. The colors look right in the broad view. It looks theater-used, although it's hard to believe any rolled examples would show up nowadays. The Stafford text in the lower right looks legit:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Gold-0.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Gold-1.jpg)

Anyone can contact the buyer when s/he leaves feedback here for the seller fluffycarrott:

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=fluffycarrott&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=140745733880&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller
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Post by: wonka on May 08, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
The Goldfinger quad was reprinted (and sent rolled) for a limited engagement in 2007.

I would bet that this^ is one of those.
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Post by: CSM on May 08, 2012, 10:52:39 PM
To me, it looks far too glossy to be an original (aside from the comparison above which casts quite a bit of doubt)
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Post by: wonka on May 08, 2012, 10:54:05 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 08, 2012, 10:52:39 PM
To me, it looks far too glossy to be an original (aside from the comparison above which casts quite a bit of doubt)

Yes, forgot to mention this. Thanks.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 08, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
The 2007 re-release, which I have, says "restored and remastered" and is easily distinguishable:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/JamesBond03Goldfinger1964SSRquad2007rr-Version2.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on May 08, 2012, 11:01:53 PM
And it's not folded either of course  ;D
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Post by: wonka on May 08, 2012, 11:15:36 PM
Good catch on the 'remastered' bit.

However, I remember reading somewhere that some theaters just used reprints of the original. Maybe it's the altered one that says remastered or not.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 08, 2012, 11:26:19 PM
Did anybody try to contact this seller? S/he has sold a few Bond items recently, including a couple of reprints.  Anyway, sent a message, perhaps will get a response:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/csc/fluffycarrott/m.html?rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 09, 2012, 07:41:44 AM
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Post by: movieposterstudio on May 09, 2012, 07:53:11 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 08, 2012, 11:26:19 PM
Did anybody try to contact this seller? S/he has sold a few Bond items recently, including a couple of reprints.  Anyway, sent a message, perhaps will get a response:

Mel – pls read further up the thread. I contacted seller twice about their auctions, and actually tried again after auction finished – got a reply the first time, but not the other 2 times. Hope you have more success.
Amazingly rolled original Goldfinger quads do exist, but this one is described as folded anyway.
The Stafford & Co text is on reprints too.
The Diamonds Are Forever was completely mis-described, which made me wonder how good the seller was at identifying originals…
The seller’s latest auctions were private listings - doesn’t that mean item titles will not be shown in feedback?

Paul
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Post by: paul waines on May 09, 2012, 12:10:39 PM
The Quad Of Goldfinger Jeff posted is the real deal, how ever the one that looks rolled is most definitely a repro, just take a look at the Sprayed on finish to the ink and how it is crumpled on the corners.....  eyeroll
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 01:31:49 PM
What is your take on the Thunderball I posted Paul?
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Post by: paul waines on May 09, 2012, 03:15:12 PM
It's a bad pic to see fully Harry, but it's not overly shiny though the fact there's hardly any white left at the top above Connery's head is a down side, mine has a fair amount of white at the top, maybe too much... ;)

If I was thinking of shelling out big money for a poster, I would give that one a miss. A good one will turn up, it's all a waiting game for the right poster at the right price... as you know Harry.... ;)
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Well, more pointedly... do you think that Thunderball is a reprint?  Do you know of full size (30x40) bootlegs of this poster? 
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Post by: paul waines on May 09, 2012, 03:36:15 PM
off the top of my head Harry, no. I know there is a smaller repro of it, but I can't recall a 30X40. Others may know better, where's Adam when you want him...
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Post by: mahmudf on May 09, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
I'm no bond expert but I have seen a real Thunderball  up close at a Christies preview and the background is a light grey colour, whereas the ebay one looks too white too me
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
Quote from: mahmudf on May 09, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
I'm no bond expert but I have seen a real Thunderball  up close at a Christies preview and the background is a light grey colour, whereas the ebay one looks too white too me

I've noticed that as well... at least in some of the better/more representative photos.  Was this poster printed on a light gray paper?  Or is the gray printed on? 
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Post by: mahmudf on May 09, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
I've noticed that as well... at least in some of the better/more representative photos.  Was this poster printed on a light gray paper?  Or is the gray printed on? 

I dont know about that but by looking at the one on heritage's site the printer details are right at the bottom and there looks to be more space above Connery's head as Paul mentioned.
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Post by: wonka on May 09, 2012, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
I've noticed that as well... at least in some of the better/more representative photos.  Was this poster printed on a light gray paper?  Or is the gray printed on? 

Paper is and should be grey, albiet ever so slightly. Also, the text is an issue as stated.

I would steer clear from this just to be safe.
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Post by: movieposterstudio on May 09, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 09, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
I've noticed that as well... at least in some of the better/more representative photos.  Was this poster printed on a light gray paper?  Or is the gray printed on? 

As I mention above, it's a sort of creamy very light green, quite difficult to describe (obviously!). Light duck egg green perhaps. It does look quite like light grey, especially on photos. It's a printed colour - altho a lot of the posters from that era have darkened a bit on the back anyway! I still haven't heard back from the seller...

Paul
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 09, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
what I thought when I saw one of the Thunderball quads was that the paper manufacture process resulted in off-white paper. This was probably the result of using too green of a wood and not enough bleach to neutralize the variation

ps: this usually happens when someone uses cheap paper to keep costs down
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Post by: Silhouette on May 10, 2012, 02:54:23 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 09, 2012, 06:08:18 PM
This was probably the result of using too green of a wood and not enough bleach to neutralize the variation

ps: this usually happens when someone uses cheap paper to keep costs down

Can you elaborate - the green wood theory doesn't sound right.
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Post by: Bruce on May 10, 2012, 07:13:09 AM
Maybe it was a special Belgian green wood?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 10, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 10, 2012, 02:54:23 AM
Can you elaborate - the green wood theory doesn't sound right.

David.. if you don't know anything about the complicated process of making paper.. why don't you go to wikipedia & read up on it.. It's possible you could actually expand your knowledge base
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 10, 2012, 02:42:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 10, 2012, 07:13:09 AM
Maybe it was a special Belgian green wood?

and Bruce.. I am amazed that you still can't see that I was razzing you guys all along.. You're smarter than David is by at least a mile.. what did I have to do, say you could find Japanese on Belgian posters before you could get sarcasm??
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Post by: wonka on May 10, 2012, 03:31:53 PM
Rich, did those kids egg your house again?
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Post by: Silhouette on May 10, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 10, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
David.. if you don't know anything about the complicated process of making paper.. why don't you go to wikipedia & read up on it.. It's possible you could actually expand your knowledge base

Good morning Rich, bottom line, I asked a civil question. I simply questioned your assertion that using "too green a wood" etc etc belgian belgian

If you are going to make statements in such a knowledgeable way (and add a p.s no less) then perhaps you should be sure of what you are talking about. Paper is made from pulp, pulp is made from trees, trees are green - there is no major drying process before or after trees are cut down. The process of making paper is not part of my query - but nope, you decided to have a little wiki-swipe.

As to the now famous "Belgian Incident now you say you were "razzing you guys all along" - OMG, no one here believes that for one second, if it was true then rather having a go at Bruce you would have said to me "nahh just BSing you". BTW, my IQ is not in question...
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Post by: jayn_j on May 10, 2012, 04:06:54 PM
...and here we go...
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Post by: Silhouette on May 10, 2012, 04:08:22 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on May 10, 2012, 04:06:54 PM
...and here we go...

Should be good... :)  pcorn
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Post by: Charlie on May 10, 2012, 04:10:37 PM
5, 4, 3, 2, 1, Pumpkin!
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Post by: CSM on May 10, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
BANANA!
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 10, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
(http://oi41.tinypic.com/15yvv52.jpg)

Stew
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Post by: erik1925 on May 10, 2012, 04:19:39 PM
 wynk

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5214/5538709409_2c7cfc92b8_z.jpg)
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 10, 2012, 05:23:17 PM
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/5838804/2/istockphoto_5838804-shooting-fish-in-a-barrel.jpg)


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Post by: brude on May 10, 2012, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 10, 2012, 03:31:53 PM
Rich, did those kids egg your house again?

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 10, 2012, 09:36:16 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 10, 2012, 05:23:17 PM
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/5838804/2/istockphoto_5838804-shooting-fish-in-a-barrel.jpg)




This barrel is made with some of the finest, Belgian green wood available. The remaining scraps and cut ends, though, are sent to the pulp mill, for further processing and bleaching.  laugh1
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
wow.. I go away for 3 days to buy some posters and all the children come out to play.. LOL

David.. it's too easy to get you worked up..

jump David, Jump.. spin.. twirl.. go fetch.. LOL

I wonder what I'll do to find out who I can make fetch this time.. LOL
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
wow.. I go away for 3 days to buy some posters and all the children come out to play.. LOL

David.. it's too easy to get you worked up..

jump David, Jump.. spin.. twirl.. go fetch.. LOL

I wonder what I'll do to find out who I can make fetch this time.. LOL
What did you buy puppet master ?  ;) anything nice?

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:36:15 PM
yes I got a collection of mixed subjects material from lobby cards to one sheets and they will be fed into the auctions as we go along.. I'll also be bringing stuff like the one sheets for  1959 Mummy, Curse of the Werewolf, Butch Cassidy (rare gunfight style) and all kinds of other goodies to Cinevent, for anyone attending.

While I was out, I also got another collection that included some great glass slides from the 1930s including Charlie Chan, Marx Bros and classic titles like Of Mice and Men.

I was not able (unfortunately) to get the stock of rolled moderns however that contained lots of incredible stuff. We couldn't get to a price we'd agree on.. But I'm still working on that deal.. It was a fun trip and I only wish I had had more offers to add to the map while I was doing it.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
PS. anyone who likes 2nd and 3rd tier lobby cards from 1930s-40s movies will be having fun also. the previous week I brought home several boxes of lobbies with a heavy concentration of that material to sell in the singles and in lobby card sets/groups of 5-8 cards. I was able to get some of it listed into the current auction and more will come 2 auctions from now (next auction is folded 1sh with some of the stuff I brought back inserted)
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Post by: Silhouette on May 13, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
Rich, you got to learn when to simply keep quiet when you don't know what you are talking about - get over yourself, you don't know everything and the fact is you simply hate it when you get found out in a pile of bullsh*t and then like to turn on others as a result. All you do when you come up with your outrageous statements is dig a bigger hole for yourself.

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
LMFAO..

David.. if you only knew the truth you would be shocked..

now.. MUmp
spin
twirl.




go fetch!!!

LOL
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
by the way.. you folks did a real poor job of outing auctions I'm interested in last week.

why none of you put up a link to this auction is beyond me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261017378395

but thanks.. you may have prevented one of the l-u-r-k-e-r-s here from bidding against me.. YIPPEEEE

 :P
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:36:15 PM
yes I got a collection of mixed subjects material from lobby cards to one sheets and they will be fed into the auctions as we go along.. I'll also be bringing stuff like the one sheets for  1959 Mummy, Curse of the Werewolf, Butch Cassidy (rare gunfight style) and all kinds of other goodies to Cinevent, for anyone attending.

While I was out, I also got another collection that included some great glass slides from the 1930s including Charlie Chan, Marx Bros and classic titles like Of Mice and Men.

I was not able (unfortunately) to get the stock of rolled moderns however that contained lots of incredible stuff. We couldn't get to a price we'd agree on.. But I'm still working on that deal.. It was a fun trip and I only wish I had had more offers to add to the map while I was doing it.
Sounds great,looking forward to seeing them...although..you could maybe pick up some quads along the way ? Think International $$ sometimes..we got money to spend too!! 

Stew
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:36:15 PM
While I was out, I also got another collection that included some great glass slides from the 1930s including Charlie Chan, Marx Bros and classic titles like Of Mice and Men.

Sweet!  I got a bunch of slides but always looking to add more!!
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Post by: Zorba on May 13, 2012, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 13, 2012, 04:43:54 PM

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)


Screw Bozo. That is my favorite clown!  ;D
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
PS. anyone who likes 2nd and 3rd tier lobby cards from 1930s-40s movies will be having fun also. the previous week I brought home several boxes of lobbies with a heavy concentration of that material to sell in the singles and in lobby card sets/groups of 5-8 cards. I was able to get some of it listed into the current auction and more will come 2 auctions from now (next auction is folded 1sh with some of the stuff I brought back inserted)

I like that era!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
Sounds great,looking forward to seeing them...although..you could maybe pick up some quads along the way ? Think International $$ sometimes..we got money to spend too!! 

Stew

there were a couple.. just don't find many collections of them out here Stew
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:07:20 PM
Sweet!  I got a bunch of slides but always looking to add more!!
Hi Louie !! welcome back,s`happening dude??

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 13, 2012, 04:43:54 PM
(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)



by the way.. this pic is actually funny and gave me a laugh.. can you imagine where I'd put your face??

 wynk
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
I like that era!

I also brought back specifically an El Brendel item.. maybe you need it.. maybe you don't
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
Hi Louie !! welcome back,s`happening dude??

Stew


yeah I'd been wondering where Louie was lately.. I thought maybe he went to Belgium
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Post by: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
Rich, did you finally get a "Curious Dr. Humpp" one sheet for me?
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
I also brought back specifically an El Brendel item.. maybe you need it.. maybe you don't

YIKES!!!  Can't wait to see it!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 05:17:17 PM
Rich, did you finally get a "Curious Dr. Humpp" one sheet for me?

no, but if you email me once in a while and ask me for it.. I can remember to keep an eye out
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
yeah I'd been wondering where Louie was lately.. I thought maybe he went to Belgium
"Just when I thought I was out,they dragged me back in"..good to see you Louie  ;)

Stew
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Post by: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 05:21:55 PM
I will, thanks!  :)
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
yeah I'd been wondering where Louie was lately.. I thought maybe he went to Belgium

I've been lurking here all the time, just too many posts about new crap and Mondo posters.  When someone posts something I'm interested in then I'll chime in.
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Post by: Silhouette on May 13, 2012, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
David.. if you only knew the truth you would be shocked..

Speak up Rich hard to hear the truth from up here... :)

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)

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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:31:45 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
new crap and Mondo posters.
What? you missed out on Metropolis fun..you can`t be older than Metropolis for goodness..
Mondo..well ....

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
jump David.. spin..

go fetch  :-*
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:31:45 PM
What? you missed out on Metropolis fun..you can`t be older than Metropolis for goodness..
Mondo..well ....

Stew


Yeah the Metropolis controversy was fine for three seconds then I realized I'll never have it in my collection so I moved on to fixing up a batch of 30's & 40's stag films on 16mm I recently acquired so I could project them.  Good times.
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 13, 2012, 05:38:20 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Yeah the Metropolis controversy was fine for three seconds then I realized I'll never have it in my collection so I moved on to fixing up a batch of 30's & 40's stag films on 16mm I recently acquired so I could project them.  Good times.
Happy days..
You mentioned stag "mm"...you lucky sod.

Stew
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Post by: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 05:39:49 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
I moved on to fixing up a batch of 30's & 40's stag films on 16mm I recently acquired so I could project them.  Good times.

Lucky bastard!
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 05:39:49 PM
Lucky bastard!

Well, I don't know if I'm that lucky, most of these which survive are 10th generation dupes which look like they were developed in the bathtub.  Not sure what these contain, but I'll soon find out!
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Post by: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
I'll be checking the blog then.  thumbup
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 06:42:37 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 06:01:12 PM
Well, I don't know if I'm that lucky, most of these which survive are 10th generation dupes which look like they were developed in the bathtub.  Not sure what these contain, but I'll soon find out!

these are Louie's people working on restoring the movies

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/louies_avatar.gif)
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 13, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
I'll be checking the blog then.  thumbup

Nice!  I have a lot of film to scan in the coming weeks, not only these but the Brendel home movies.
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Post by: Charlie on May 13, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:59:50 PM
by the way.. you folks did a real poor job of outing auctions I'm interested in last week.

why none of you put up a link to this auction is beyond me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261017378395

but thanks.. you may have prevented one of the l-u-r-k-e-r-s here from bidding against me.. YIPPEEEE

 :P

It's a press kit.  That is my excuse...
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Post by: brude on May 13, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
I've been lurking here all the time, just too many posts about new crap and Mondo posters.  When someone posts something I'm interested in then I'll chime in.

I figured you were hanging at Occupy Boston.
 wynk
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Post by: Louie D. on May 13, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: brude on May 13, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
I figured you were hanging at Occupy Boston.
 wynk

Nah, the Occupy movement is largely unproductive IMHO, until they start shedding banker-blood, then stuff will change.
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 14, 2012, 01:48:34 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 13, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
wow.. I go away for 3 days to buy some posters and all the children come out to play.. LOL

David.. it's too easy to get you worked up..

jump David, Jump.. spin.. twirl.. go fetch.. LOL

I wonder what I'll do to find out who I can make fetch this time.. LOL

I would have thought there would have been more progress after 3 days ---  laugh1

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)

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Post by: jayn_j on May 14, 2012, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Der Januskopf on May 14, 2012, 01:48:34 PM
I would have thought there would have been more progress after 3 days ---  laugh1

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/rich-digs-a-hole-for-himself.png)



Well, well, well. :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 14, 2012, 03:10:25 PM
I was trying to get down to the poster treasure supposedly below, but I hit something hard as rock at the bottom of the hole.. I think it's David's head
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 05:17:34 PM
There is no BIN analysis thread, so rather than start a new one, I figured to post it here. Also another congrats, too, to Sean and Peter for offering this INVISIBLE MAN (1933) one sheet. Simply spectacular.  clap clap clap

BIN- $325K.

http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=2015

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-INVISIBLE-MAN-KEY-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-ONE-SHEET-/190679524950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6562a656

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDcy/$(KGrHqN,!jkE-oRBvcLgBPsr,h)NkQ~~60_1.JPG)
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Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 05:28:40 PM
Thanks.
And while on consignment, this one is in hand and I am absolutely certain there will be no "surprises" concerning it and ownership.

...oh and uhhh, don't forget to check out all of our auctions.  ;)
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Post by: Charlie on May 15, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Man this MP Grading movement just saddens me.  It is the start of the end of this hobby.  Next thing you know people will be grading crap poster (not warranted like the IM) and the whole hobby will go to shit.  It is a sad day to say the least, seeing the new MP Grading layout so similar to PSA and others... I am getting a lump in my throat.  Every hobby I get wrapped up in goes to the dealers and investors; first coins, cards, then comics, now this BS. 

http://www.mpgrading.com/poster.aspx?ID=110003120

No offense to MP Grading effort and hard work but I hope yours and any follower's efforts fail miserably...

 :'(
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 15, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Man this MP Grading movement just saddens me.  It is the start of the end of this hobby.  Next thing you know people will be grading crap poster (not warranted like the IM) and the whole hobby will go to shit.  It is a sad day to say the least, seeing the new MP Grading layout so similar to PSA and others... I am getting a lump in my throat.  Every hobby I get wrapped up in goes to the dealers and investors; first coins, cards, then comics, now this BS. 

http://www.mpgrading.com/poster.aspx?ID=110003120

No offense to MP Grading effort and hard work but I hope yours and any follower's efforts fail miserably...

 :'(

Am I reading and understanding this comment correctly? That you are publicly hoping and expressing that MP Grading fails?  :-\

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Post by: Charlie on May 15, 2012, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
Am I reading and understanding this comment correctly? That you are publicly hoping and expressing that MP Grading fails?  :-\



Yeah, it will be good for the hobby if they do fail; and I mean fail to distribute services on a mass scale...  Specifically the mass grading and inventorying; which is where the money will be.  The service itself in concept is excellent but the inevitable commercialization and mass grading to follow like the way of cards and comics will ruin the hobby if it takes off.  I know we have had this conversation regarding slabbing Lobby Cards.  And the question still remains what is the point w/o slabbing? Once the poster leaves MP grading, the grade is no longer valid IMO...

So yes I am publicly expressing my hope that MP Grading and "Poster Grading" in general fails to take off. I can understand the inherit need to grade $10,000+ valued posters but there are not many, so the next step is the Blade Runners and Alien OS of the hobby which will kill it. If it makes a run, the fun will be gone. It will boom with investors (which will be the time to sell) and then die like cards and comics...  I saw it with both cards and comics.  If your card wasn't graded it was worthless and if it graded out below average it was worthless.  The spirit of the hobby had died.

I respect the hard work put into it, but the only people that will benefit from it will be MP Grading, Dealers, and Investors.  Us collectors will be left talking about the good old days (even though some are already talking the good old days) before grading and admiring or posters that we can't sell unless we send or $20 or more as he will up his price if/when it takes off. 

MP grading does (hope not) or does not understand the path upon which they are sending the hobby as a whole.  But why should they care, the guy is an IT person out to make money if I read between the lines and the experts are sitting on stacks of paper that if graded will only fatten their wallets... which if I were them and didn't care about the hobby would do the same.



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Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 05:51:15 PM
Am I reading and understanding this comment correctly? That you are publicly hoping and expressing that MP Grading fails?  :-\

and here I was thinking if MPGrading and CGC had only been doing this a couple of years earlier, maybe Haggard would not have been able to scam people for nearly $2 million dollars.

But maybe Charlie is right, if there was no MPGrading, then posters wouldn't sell for a lot of money.  Oops, that's already happened.

Well certainly investors have never been in this hobby before now though, right?
Oops, I guess we're 20+ years too late to stop that also.
http://www.liveauctiontalk.com/free_article_detail.php?article_id=462

Although I agree that MPGrading should really perhaps just perfect and worry about MPAuthentication and doing their DNA stamp on posters to identify them for insurance purposes does seem to have some uses.
But leave the grading part alone. Without slabbing the item, grades are useless

The simple fact is that "investors" will never flock to this hobby, even without grading, as long as exit costs remain high (20%-30% for Bruce or Heritage), the need for some certainty and liquidity is far too variable for most investors, and price volatility is too extreme.

No, the best pieces/collections will continue to be bought by long-term collectors who have a love for the hobby.


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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 07:23:20 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
and here I was thinking if MPGrading and CGC had only been doing this a couple of years earlier, maybe Haggard would not have been able to scam people for nearly $2 million dollars.

But maybe Charlie is right, if there was no MPGrading, then posters wouldn't sell for a lot of money.  Oops, that's already happened.

Well certainly investors have never been in this hobby before now though, right?
Oops, I guess we're 20+ years too late to stop that also.
http://www.liveauctiontalk.com/free_article_detail.php?article_id=462

Although I agree that MPGrading should really perhaps just perfect and worry about MPAuthentication and doing their DNA stamp on posters to identify them for insurance purposes does seem to have some uses.
But leave the grading part alone. Without slabbing the item, grades are useless

The simple fact is that "investors" will never flock to this hobby, even without grading, as long as exit costs remain high (20%-30% for Bruce or Heritage), the need for some certainty and liquidity is far too variable for most investors, and price volatility is too extreme.

No, the best pieces/collections will continue to be bought by long-term collectors who have a love for the hobby.




MP Grading and their DNA fingerprint and marking service, as well as authenticating the high end pieces from possible fakes is certainly a plus for the hobby, as the Haggard debacle clearly demonstrates. The grading issue makes sense, too. I was thinking about this scenario earlier. Let us say a poster is in the possession of MP Grading, is photographed, authenticated and DNA marked. It receives a 9.5 grading.

Said poster is now being folded (or rolled) to be sent back to the owner, with its certificate and DNA ID# and information. The person doing the rolling or refolding, accidentally slightly bumps the poster on a table edge or counter and creates a small ding. The grade just assigned is no longer valid-- in the blink of an eye. Or what if it is dinged somehow, while in transit? Or when removed from its package by the owner? And because the slabbing of posters will not (most likely) ever happen, the grade assigned could be difficult to maintain.

But what MP Grading is doing and offering, as a whole, is important and it is certainly understandable. And it isnt for only $10K posters. I would think that posters valued at $500.00 and over would all be qualified candidates (imo).

At the same time, grading lesser or inexpensive posters is something I cannot see them doing with tremendous regularity, either. They would be inundated and swimming in a sea of $10 and 20 dollar posters.  :o



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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
A Portal KING KONG, being offered as an original (but 1960s re-release, theatrical poster). The bottom was trimmed, per the seller, removing the printer's info. It is also framed. At least the seller realized it wasnt from the '30s.

I notified the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqZHJD!E-lFukfh7BPsszzIGmQ~~60_1.JPG)

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Post by: 50s on May 15, 2012, 07:34:49 PM
I see value in their authentication service, I see no value in their grading service.

For a laugh at my interegation of MPGrading (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1310.msg17174.html#msg17174)

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Post by: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
OMG, did you guys see some of the prices on Emovie tonight?  I wanted to get a bunch of stuff, but I can't compete.  Some of them are just ridiculous.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565526 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565526)

Really?  REALLY?  I got it for $9 a couple years ago.  Can't people do a little bit of homework?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-MOVIE-POSTER-JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-ROBERT-SHAW-ROY-SCHEIDER-1975-/260997414843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc4a87fbb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-MOVIE-POSTER-JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-ROBERT-SHAW-ROY-SCHEIDER-1975-/260997414843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc4a87fbb)

T
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Post by: holiday on May 15, 2012, 08:41:07 PM
There's people throwing around a lot of bucks. There was a Tintin quad that went for $130.  There's a bunch of others up there too.

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Post by: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Even this: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565513 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565513)

http://www.polishposter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4079&Search=blade+runner&Offset=&filter_cat=&exclude_word=&the_fieldlist=g.SRCH_NAME|g.SRCH_CODE|g.SRCH_DESC|g.SRCH_DESIGNER&range_low=&range_high=&dopowersearch=1&SRCH_CATEGORY_HF=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&code_found= (http://www.polishposter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4079&Search=blade+runner&Offset=&filter_cat=&exclude_word=&the_fieldlist=g.SRCH_NAME|g.SRCH_CODE|g.SRCH_DESC|g.SRCH_DESIGNER&range_low=&range_high=&dopowersearch=1&SRCH_CATEGORY_HF=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&code_found=)

And by the way, Krzysztof has upped his prices, because this used to be $19.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
It's funny, though, people are spending a lot of money on things they could get for 1/10 of the price, but nothing on nice pieces like this one: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747)

Go figure.

T
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Post by: Der Januskopf on May 15, 2012, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
Even this: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565513 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565513)

http://www.polishposter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4079&Search=blade+runner&Offset=&filter_cat=&exclude_word=&the_fieldlist=g.SRCH_NAME|g.SRCH_CODE|g.SRCH_DESC|g.SRCH_DESIGNER&range_low=&range_high=&dopowersearch=1&SRCH_CATEGORY_HF=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&code_found= (http://www.polishposter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=4079&Search=blade+runner&Offset=&filter_cat=&exclude_word=&the_fieldlist=g.SRCH_NAME|g.SRCH_CODE|g.SRCH_DESC|g.SRCH_DESIGNER&range_low=&range_high=&dopowersearch=1&SRCH_CATEGORY_HF=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&code_found=)

And by the way, Krzysztof has upped his prices, because this used to be $19.

T


Wow-- that is one fugly poster, too, IMO, Blade Runner or not.  puke2
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Post by: holiday on May 15, 2012, 09:15:47 PM
I agree.  I love Blade Runner, and I don't think I'd pay more than $10 for that poster.  Fugly is the word!
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Post by: holiday on May 15, 2012, 09:41:50 PM
$625 for the Joker B1!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2566049 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2566049)
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Post by: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Didn't you give it to me for free?
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Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
It's funny, though, people are spending a lot of money on things they could get for 1/10 of the price, but nothing on nice pieces like this one: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747)


That's because they saw it was French...  (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/poke2.gif)
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Post by: brude on May 15, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
It just goes to show you...if you want to unload those unwanted posters, you stand to make more consigning with Bruce.
Am I right?
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Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 10:10:34 PM
Quote from: brude on May 15, 2012, 10:03:54 PM
It just goes to show you...if you want to unload those unwanted posters, you stand to make more consigning with Bruce.
Am I right?

As long as you are also ok with the fact that over half of everything will sell for $15 or less (whereas the competition never auctions even a single... (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/blahblah.gif) )
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Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
PS - that's from a guy who is hoping that half of his auctions sell for even $10 this weekend.

where is that link again...?
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Post by: archie leach on May 15, 2012, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:50:11 PM
It's funny, though, people are spending a lot of money on things they could get for 1/10 of the price, but nothing on nice pieces like this one: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565747)

There are, relatively, a ton of these around, which is helping to suppress the price.  Also, the coloring scheme leaves something to be desired.  The Thierry hates "French Grande" makes for a far better image...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 15, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
Hey Sean.
I'm over at your place right now looking at the auctions that end in only 4 days.
Some great pieces of movie paper...
I have a question.
Why do you use 'Decade' rather than 'Year' in the primary listing? Is that for a sort function?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on May 15, 2012, 10:59:05 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Didn't you give it to me for free?

I think so.  I was able to get a few at the time, when Cockring was hawking them at $300 or something crazy.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on May 15, 2012, 11:00:39 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
PS - that's from a guy who is hoping that half of his auctions sell for even $10 this weekend.

where is that link again...?

Funny me saying this, Sean, but you should include a link in your signature.  I actually had to backtrack and find the link myself!  Signature is so much easier.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on May 15, 2012, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 15, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
OMG, did you guys see some of the prices on Emovie tonight?  I wanted to get a bunch of stuff, but I can't compete.  Some of them are just ridiculous.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565526 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2565526)

Really?  REALLY?  I got it for $9 a couple years ago.  Can't people do a little bit of homework?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-MOVIE-POSTER-JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-ROBERT-SHAW-ROY-SCHEIDER-1975-/260997414843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc4a87fbb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURKISH-MOVIE-POSTER-JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-ROBERT-SHAW-ROY-SCHEIDER-1975-/260997414843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc4a87fbb)

T

HeHe, new shit sucks!!   laugh1 laugh1 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
Quote from: holiday on May 15, 2012, 11:00:39 PM
Funny me saying this, Sean, but you should include a link in your signature.  I actually had to backtrack and find the link myself!  Signature is so much easier.

I thought the link to our home page in my signature was enough (the whole first row there is auctions), but you're right it probably doesn't hurt to have a link to them - so presto! See below...

*Edit - Yes, decade is to assist with the "refine search" column on the left
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on May 16, 2012, 12:17:57 AM
I wasn't home to bid on the 2 that I wanted from that lot.  Oh well, there are always more auctions.  On another note, it is getting on towards time I unload the Joker B1s I have.  I was getting them for $100 or so when the movie came out.  I am not really sure how many I have left  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on May 16, 2012, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 11:43:44 PM
I thought the link to our home page in my signature was enough (the whole first row there is auctions), but you're right it probably doesn't hurt to have a link to them - so presto! See below...

*Edit - Yes, decade is to assist with the "refine search" column on the left

The weekly auctions are a big part of your site, and as such there should be a big obvious button on your homepage to get to the auctions. I was stumped a little while, till I found the See More button. I wouldn't have clicked on the Buy menu item as that to me is Buy now. My 2c worth




 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on May 16, 2012, 01:07:16 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 16, 2012, 12:30:28 AM
The weekly auctions are a big part of your site, and as such there should be a big obvious button on your homepage to get to the auctions. I was stumped a little while, till I found the See More button. I wouldn't have clicked on the Buy menu item as that to me is Buy now. My 2c worth

Was the big banner across the top that said "Click Here" too subtle...?

Certainly the black bar should be clickable as well as the see more tab, and we'll think about adding something else.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on May 16, 2012, 02:30:29 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 16, 2012, 01:07:16 AM
Was the big banner across the top that said "Click Here" too subtle...?

Funnily enough yes... it is far too subtle... I rarely look at that part of a webpage (top center) as it usually contains the droll site banner or advertisements served up by 3rd party ad serving companies (look at below). That's probably the last place on a page I would look for useful information. When you look at as many web pages I do, I've learned to block out looking at likely areas of advertising ads. That banner you have is half ad anyway so I'm even less likely to ready it if I glimpse it which turned out to be the blue bit for Gavelsnipe.

You will be hard pressed to find any website that has any meaningful information/links in that position on a webpage (above the horizontal menu),


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/ns4_ad.gif)



(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/bbc_ad.gif)



So, more comments now that you sound cheeky  :P


- Your black bar being clickable is a dopey idea as it says Featured Auctions but the user will then get taken to the general auction items instead, by the sounds of it. No one would know to click on it anyway as it isn't usual behaviour clicking on a bar. Put in a menu link for Auctions like Bruce - make it obvious. People visiting other sites would expect to find a link in the menu leading directly to the main attraction of the site - the auctions.


- You have 3 facebook icons top right of items page which 2 are different sizes, all close together and doing different things. You need context around the icons indicating what they each do, so as to not confuse the user (eg me!).


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/mpe_fb.gif)

I don't like the "See All" links as javascript links rather than hyperlinks.


The site is very well done though for a newish site thumbup




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ozcinemagic on May 16, 2012, 02:36:53 AM
I was going buy > weekly auctions. Thought the banner at top was a link to download gavel.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on May 16, 2012, 03:27:46 AM
Thanks for the input Steve, definitely appreciate it.

Perhaps we will flip the banner and the menu since we will definitely not be selling advertising there.

You can easily move your cursor over the facebook images to see which one is to follow us, which is to post the item and which is to post the site, as it will tell you which is which,
but we will play around with some text and see if we can keep the clean look.

The main part of our site is Buying - be it at auction, or for a set price. So for now you get a link to see what you can buy. Once there it is easy to separate (and the top banner links to the auctions).
But that's not to say we won't change it in the future.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 16, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
A Portal KING KONG, being offered as an original (but 1960s re-release, theatrical poster). The bottom was trimmed, per the seller, removing the printer's info. It is also framed. At least the seller realized it wasnt from the '30s.

I notified the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqZHJD!E-lFukfh7BPsszzIGmQ~~60_1.JPG)



I dropped this seller a line asking for the dimensions of the poster.  He replied 29x20.
I responded, telling him the poster was a reprint and that he should adjust his listing accordingly.
Just received a message that he would do so today after work.
Personally, I don't think any collector worth his salt would buy this one, but a newbie thinking he's getting a deal could get snookered.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on May 16, 2012, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 15, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
But maybe Charlie is right, if there was no MPGrading, then posters wouldn't sell for a lot of money.  Oops, that's already happened.

I can't resist:

Yes sir posters selling for a lot of money has already happened; Mannheim bought a lot of them...  ;D 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 16, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Look what's back (either the same or possibly another copy, as one that looks identical to this, sold in March, for $1200.00). Even the tears and areas of paper looks are the same. The same 3 photos were/are used. Here's the current auction- BIN $1500.00:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-KING-KONG-Linen-Back-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-6-5-/360445971174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ec410ae6

Here's the auction that closed in March:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=360357329376&nma=true&rt=nc&si=B7FCY432OHvSPkvJXZGlB8sDEDo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Poster offered then and now:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqIOKjIE1tK+FhWjBNmlp0CGkw~~_1.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKpIE1qn127P1BNmlp8fp-g~~_3.JPG)

And a side by side with a legit re-release. There is a great difference in print quality and use of color.

Matias, is the poster with "Apresenta" from Argentina? The other, with the bottom credits not blocked out may be a Spanish RR?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/6865483644_7050cfebe4_b.jpg)

(http://www.burton-taylor.com/test/Posters/images/KK.jpg)






Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 16, 2012, 11:05:49 PM
Quote from: brude on May 16, 2012, 09:23:15 AM
I dropped this seller a line asking for the dimensions of the poster.  He replied 29x20.
I responded, telling him the poster was a reprint and that he should adjust his listing accordingly.
Just received a message that he would do so today after work.
Personally, I don't think any collector worth his salt would buy this one, but a newbie thinking he's getting a deal could get snookered.


I heard from him, too, Ted.

And yet, another appears!: This sellers facts are so mixed up, too, saying that the original poster art was taken from an Italian poster.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/King-Kong-1933-1960s-re-release-Original-Vintage-Movie-Poster-20x29-Rare-/261020741082?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc60c6dda

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqZHJCYE-dl7-yLiBPqt321v-w~~60_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 16, 2012, 11:55:30 PM
All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615)

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2012, 12:02:30 AM
Quote from: brude on May 16, 2012, 11:55:30 PM
All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615)

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...

Ted.. exactly..i agree with you.

It was so much lip service..lol. With no bids, he has the ability to edit and amend his description, based on the info he was given. He chose not to. Those small, lame post scripts do nothing. And his wording calls this poster "movie memorabilia" rather than a commercial reproduction.



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ozcinemagic on May 17, 2012, 02:16:02 AM
Quote from: brude on May 16, 2012, 11:55:30 PM
All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615)

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...

Should start a new thread: "Best ebay sales tactics & disclaimers."

Selling it for a friend ...
Guy I bought it off said it was original ...
Found this in my old Gran's attic ...
etc etc
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on May 17, 2012, 08:43:04 AM
Quote from: ozcinemagic on May 17, 2012, 02:16:02 AM
Should start a new thread: "Best ebay sales tactics & disclaimers."

Selling it for a friend ...
Guy I bought it off said it was original ...
Found this in my old Gran's attic ...
etc etc

...and soon..
Found as insulation in the attic :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on May 17, 2012, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 16, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
And a side by side with a legit re-release. There is a great difference in print quality and use of color.

Matias, is the poster with "Apresenta" from Argentina? The other, with the bottom credits not blocked out may be a Spanish RR?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/6865483644_7050cfebe4_b.jpg)

(http://www.burton-taylor.com/test/Posters/images/KK.jpg)


Jeff, the poster being offered on ebay is from Brazil. "Apresenta" is portuguese for "presents" and "em" is portuguese for "in" (below the star's names).
The printing company info in the bottom right is different to the argentinean rerelease, and different printers could explain the difference in image quality.
As for the darkened credits at the bottom, I don't know what could have been the reason to do it...

Everything seems to indicate that the poster is original, and being from Brazil I guess would add to the  rarity. Just not $1500 rarity...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2012, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 17, 2012, 11:40:50 AM
Jeff, the poster being offered on ebay is from Brazil. "Apresenta" is portuguese for "presents" and "em" is portuguese for "in" (below the star's names).
The printing company info in the bottom right is different to the argentinean rerelease, and different printers could explain the difference in image quality.
As for the darkened credits at the bottom, I don't know what could have been the reason to do it...

Everything seems to indicate that the poster is original, and being from Brazil I guess would add to the  rarity. Just not $1500 rarity...


Thanks, Matias.  ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on May 17, 2012, 02:10:27 PM
No problem. I was wondering if Peter Jackson has one of those...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2012, 03:52:15 PM
The above linen backed KONG poster is, in fact the same one that was sold in March. That first buyer realized this was a later, possible 1947 re-release poster, and not from 1933. He informed the seller of this, who then issued him a refund. (I contacted and asked the March buyer).

So now, 2 months later, the seller re-lists and continues to advertise this as a 1933 poster. (That, plus 300.00 added to the price  :-X )


 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 17, 2012, 11:41:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 17, 2012, 03:52:15 PM
The above linen backed KONG poster is, in fact the same one that was sold in March. That first buyer realized this was a later, possible 1947 re-release poster, and not from 1933. He informed the seller of this, who then issued him a refund. (I contacted and asked the March buyer).

So now, 2 months later, the seller re-lists and continues to advertise this as a 1933 poster. (That, plus 300.00 added to the price  :-X )


 

Caveat emptor
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 19, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 02, 2012, 03:31:12 PM

Matt, as a side note -- the first auction you referenced was actually misidentified by HA as a 1954 first release French 1P. It isn't, but is also another 1962 RR, as evidenced by it also being printed with the same Visa de Censure number (No. 641) as the other. These Visa numbers were begun to be put on French posters in the early 1960's. The 1954 release French 1P shows a full bodied creature coming up behind Julia Adams in the water. I think I have the image. I will post, when I locate it. ;)

Here is a closeup side by side of the Visa numbers from the mislabeled, "1954 release" (on the left) and the 1962 RR on the right (both from the auctions you indicated). They are identical:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/7136445445_2194ae1479.jpg)  (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6990359966_09e46e12bf.jpg)


Here is the same Visa No. on the French medium '62 RR:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/7136545641_3428547623.jpg)

Here is the French 1P for the first release of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON. It opened in France on April 13, 1955 (and in Paris on July 13, 1955):


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7229070608_45476f0eb0_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
So will the cavalry come through at the end?  This one has some restoration but would probably go for $3,000+ on the more established websites.  Gotta say Peter & Sean are awfully brave to throw this out there in a first auction.....


(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/RearWindow.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 20, 2012, 02:50:21 PM
can any of you enlighten me as to why posters for this title sell for such price as they do??

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/drive.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 20, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
I was wondering the same thing...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on May 20, 2012, 03:02:54 PM
I think it's because it's a movie that a lot of people like and some may think it will be a cult classic.  The movie is unique in some ways, and the one sheet (other than the tagline  wynk) is also unique, as one reviewer said "the pink lettering makes it sooooo campy."  rofl1  

I liked the movie, and decided to get the vinyl banners and Australian one sheet.

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01694.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01758.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01914.jpg
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 20, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on May 20, 2012, 03:02:54 PM
and the one sheet (other than the tagline  wynk) is also unique, as one reviewer said "the pink lettering makes it sooooo campy."  

here is something pink for that reviewer

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/pink.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Somebody offered $210K for the Invisible Man:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Invisible.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 20, 2012, 09:56:35 PM
vultures circling a dead carcass
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2012, 11:05:21 PM
Looks like most of the stuff on MPE sold in the mid/low FMV range:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/rear.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Pulp.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Der Januskopf on May 20, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2012, 11:05:21 PM
Looks like most of the stuff on MPE sold in the mid/low FMV range:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/rear.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Pulp.jpg)


This info would be better suited in the POST auction thread, wouldnt it?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:11:58 PM
I found a Chandler poster Rich!!! Deported? 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 22, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:11:58 PM
I found a Chandler poster Rich!!! Deported? 

Make sure you post the link HERE:
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:24:31 PM
I've been going through some of the one-sheets Bruce just posted and it looks like a collector is selling a bunch of posters he/she bought from Bruce.  Several are the exact posters sold around 2005...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 22, 2012, 10:30:19 PM
OneSheetIndex's Barbarella Style B is up (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2578855):

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/barbarella_styleB_HP00375_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on May 22, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:24:31 PM
I've been going through some of the one-sheets Bruce just posted and it looks like a collector is selling a bunch of posters he/she bought from Bruce.  Several are the exact posters sold around 2005...

Charlie, this is the "circle of life". People buy bunches of posters, and swear they will never ever sell even one of them.

A few years go by (or ten or twenty) and times and tastes change, and suddenly they are like "Why do I still have this crap?". and then a consignor is born!

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 22, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
And the consignment fee bus goes 'round and 'round ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on May 22, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
If people didn't (re)sell items they owned, vintage poster collecting would have died years ago and the only thing you could collect is new releases and repros

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_Zq_b4sBc
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 24, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Quote from: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:11:58 PM
I found a Chandler poster Rich!!! Deported? 

well what the heck is it.. I may want to try to beat the l u r k e r who you inform about it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 24, 2012, 12:44:01 AM
Quote from: Charlie on May 22, 2012, 10:24:31 PM
I've been going through some of the one-sheets Bruce just posted and it looks like a collector is selling a bunch of posters he/she bought from Bruce.  Several are the exact posters sold around 2005...

Charlie, I have a buyer who regularly recycles the posters he buys from me. Sometimes just a few weeks after he wins it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 24, 2012, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 24, 2012, 12:44:01 AM
Charlie, I have a buyer who regularly recycles the posters he buys from me. Sometimes just a few weeks after he wins it.


That sounds like a disorder of some sort.  mesmrized
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on May 24, 2012, 02:43:50 AM
I reckon his wife finds out


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 24, 2012, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 24, 2012, 02:43:50 AM
I reckon his wife finds out




 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: originalcinemaposters on May 28, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a)
i wonder how long it will be before this turns up as an original!
I am not sure  i like the fact the guys i knocking these out
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Post by: stewart boyle on May 28, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on May 28, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a)
i wonder how long it will be before this turns up as an original!
I am not sure  i like the fact the guys i knocking these out

Looks very convincing..are the Pirates getting smarter I wonder? :-X

Stew
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on May 28, 2012, 05:18:59 PM
i emailed him and asked if there was any marking on the bootleg to show its a copy, I am awaiting his reply

the one he is currently selling (as long as the print job is good) could easily pass as a quad to the untrained eye and who knows in a few years to even a trained eye

This is a worrying development as in general Quads have been safe (other than a few notable exceptions) fake free

Paul
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Post by: erik1925 on May 28, 2012, 07:32:27 PM
I noticed that in his description, the seller says the size is APPROX. 30x40 inches. If these copies are short by 1/2" or so on the length and width, (for example), wouldn't that also be a strong indicator that it was a bootleg, should it show up later, and advertised as the real deal? I guess someone could describe it as being exactly 30"x40", which would then be deceptive, if someone wanted to fool potential buyers.  :-\
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Post by: Ari on May 28, 2012, 08:18:23 PM
only one available?

PS, I migth have asked, anyone get any of the Hammer repro quads they issued?
I assume they are undersized. And the paper would be way off.
?
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Post by: paul waines on May 29, 2012, 01:52:50 AM
Ari, No they are correct size, but the print quality is awful...



Quote from: originalcinemaposters on May 28, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-QUAD-FULCI-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280890060858?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item41665a303a)
i wonder how long it will be before this turns up as an original!
I am not sure  i like the fact the guys i knocking these out



This is the poster I mentioned in the other thread, saying that Linen backed one that sold for well over £800, may well be one of these....buyer beware.

 
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
OCEAN'S 11 (1960) insert, signed by 10 cast members. Unfortunately, the seller doesn't say how or where he got it signed, or if he bought it this way.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OCEANS-11-1960-INSERT-POSTER-SIGNED-RAT-PACK-/200763421423?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DUPI.GIROS%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%26itu%3DUCI%252BUCC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D250970389264%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8765238841886810760

Opening bid is $6500.00 (but that is not the reserve)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzIwWDcxOA==/$(KGrHqZHJB!E-EfS1P36BPo71essSg~~60_12.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Njc3WDc0MA==/$(KGrHqF,!g8E9oPV51kUBPo71k0Stw~~60_12.JPG)

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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 04:59:59 PM
OMG, I would SO NEVER touch that, not even for $100.

T

PS: Can a good restorer remove signatures?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
The paper looks more matte and not all that glossy, so those sigs are well absorbed into the paper fiber. I bet trying to get sharpie (and regular) ink removed would be tough.



 
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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
It's too bad.  It's a really nice poster.

T
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Post by: Freefall on May 29, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 22, 2012, 10:30:19 PM
OneSheetIndex's Barbarella Style B is up (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2578855):

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/barbarella_styleB_HP00375_L.jpg)

Currently at $913.00

I'm glad I don't like this poster at all.

 :P
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Post by: crowzilla on May 29, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 29, 2012, 04:33:14 PM
OCEAN'S 11 (1960) insert, signed by 10 cast members. Unfortunately, the seller doesn't say how or where he got it signed, or if he bought it this way.


Flat topped "r" in "Frank" is noted as a very common way to identify forgeries.
http://uacc.org/sinatra_study.php
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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 29, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
Flat topped "r" in "Frank" is noted as a very common way to identify forgeries.
http://uacc.org/sinatra_study.php


I miss the old days of Ebay when you could contact a potential buyer to tell them to stay the fuck away from an item.  I did it so many times.  It's tragic you cannot do it anymore, since it was the best way to fight crooks.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
Quote from: Freefall on May 29, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
Currently at $913.00

I'm glad I don't like this poster at all.

 :P

I agree.  Not a big fan either (certainly not at that price), but it does have a good 60s look.

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 29, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
You guys are crazy.  That Barbarella Style B is the quintessence of cool and what this hobby is all about.  My copy is permanently enshrined on my wall.

Something I won't ever own (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Movie-poster-RARE-The-Bride-of-Frankenstein-Lobby-card-single-/261032609996)....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/BOF-3.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/BOF-lobby.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2012, 10:43:16 PM
Yeah Mel you should probably concentrate on finding a flesh and blood bride first before a paper one...
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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 10:46:27 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 29, 2012, 10:10:58 PM
You guys are crazy.  That Barbarella Style B is the quintessence of cool and what this hobby is all about.  My copy is permanently enshrined on my wall.

Agreed.  For $200.  What that guy, 70mmWidescreen, bought it for is absurd, IMO.  But then again, what the guy spends on posters is absurd.  I think he is related to Jaws1975 or Bullitt1968.  I see the same pattern of overspending on posters.  I am not impressed by the money he showers Bruce with, I'm more impressed by the fact that he constantly pays more on posters than what they are worth.

T
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Post by: 110x75 on May 29, 2012, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 10:46:27 PM
I'm more impressed by the fact that he constantly pays more on posters than what they are worth.

wich is the opposite of what I try to do...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 01:16:22 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 29, 2012, 10:46:27 PM
Agreed.  For $200.  What that guy, 70mmWidescreen, bought it for is absurd, IMO.  But then again, what the guy spends on posters is absurd.  I think he is related to Jaws1975 or Bullitt1968.  I see the same pattern of overspending on posters.  I am not impressed by the money he showers Bruce with, I'm more impressed by the fact that he constantly pays more on posters than what they are worth.

T

Your "worth" valuation is way off for this one.  I'd guesstimate there are fewer than 20 of the Style Bs still around and the demand vastly exceeds the supply. They've been consistently auctioning for $600 - $1000 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/search_results.php?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&N=54+790+231&Ntt=barbarella+style+b&Ns=Time%7C1) (depending on condition) at Heritage and Christie's for the last ten years.  I paid $1,075 for mine (NM condition) and it was worth every penny.  This particular one sold tonight may have been a bit excessive because it has heavy foldlines but it was not far off.
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Post by: Ari on May 30, 2012, 01:27:27 AM
curious how you came up with a figure of approx 20?
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Post by: crowzilla on May 30, 2012, 02:23:36 AM
I am curious about that also. I know of one dealer who purchased 6 of them a few years ago in a bulk lot and I certainly never believed he had 30% of the known copies.
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Post by: Ari on May 30, 2012, 02:32:13 AM
maybe the new estimate is 26?  :P
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 07:45:51 AM
It's been reported that there are only six 40x60 Barbarellas extant and they come up for auction maybe once a year.  These Style Bs come up for auction twice a year or so, so I figure not many are floating around out there since, as a general matter, the frequency of sales correlates with the quantity. Heritage has described it as "extremely" and "incredibly" scarce. Perhaps some hyperbole but not too much.  Certainly the Style A is far more common.
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Post by: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
Mel, this poster is worth $200 to me.  I like it, but not enough to spend a penny more.  $900 is outrageous to me, but hey, to each his own.

And 20?  What is that?  A lot of collectors own this poster.  They're just sitting on them for whatever reason.  The fact that these posters come up for sale twice a year, as you say, means that there are way more than 20 floating around.  I'd say at least 122.  And Heritage can put whatever they want in their auction description...  They're selling the damn thing.  Of course, it's super duper rare.  And who reported that there are only 6 40x60 Barbarellas left?  Who the fuck knows?

T
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Post by: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
Let me give you another example.  I bought this poster for $300 last year.  So did another member of this forum who led me to it.  

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517-bI3RwRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

How many copies of this poster do you think there are left?  I don't see it popping for auction very often.  I checked Bruce and HA's auctions and it looks like it sells for above $1k.  Is it worth $1k?  I don't think so.  It is worth whatever you find it at.  I would have not spent more than I did on it, and ultimately I ended up spending what I wanted to spend.  Rare or not, I found it at my price.

T
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Post by: CSM on May 30, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
Who the fuck knows?

T

Professor Powers, of course!
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Post by: CSM on May 30, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
Let me give you another example.  I bought this poster for $300 last year.  So did another member of this forum who led me to it. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517-bI3RwRL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

How many copies of this poster do you think there are left?  I don't see it popping for auction very often.  I checked Bruce and HA's auctions and it looks like it sells for above $1k.  Is it worth $1k?  I don't think so.  It is worth whatever you find it at.  I would have not spent more than I did on it, and ultimately I ended up spending what I wanted to spend.  Rare or not, I found it.

T

And I wouldn't have spent more than $20 on it.  So there I go enforcing your point ;)
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Post by: crowzilla on May 30, 2012, 11:58:22 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 07:45:51 AM
It's been reported that there are only six 40x60 Barbarellas extant and they come up for auction maybe once a year.  These Style Bs come up for auction twice a year or so, so I figure not many are floating around out there since, as a general matter, the frequency of sales correlates with the quantity. Heritage has described it as "extremely" and "incredibly" scarce. Perhaps some hyperbole but not too much.  Certainly the Style A is far more common.

Even Todd Spoor's book on 30x40s/40x60s says there are 8 of the Barbarella's known and cataloged 22 times the style B came to auction in the prior 20 years and I think he estimated most of his numbers pretty low, probably closer to something like 2 dozen or so on the 40x60s and T is correct on 100+ for the style B (which still makes it pretty rare for a 60s one-sheet).

If there were really only six of the 40x60s known, you just wouldn't see it come up for sale every year. Most collectors buy and hold, not buy and flip, so when they get something cool like that they are far more likely to hang onto it for a while.
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Post by: Charlie on May 30, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
I am sure Dave has a roll of them.  Or Rick has 3 or 4 copies...  One thing I think we get caught up on is trying to take inventory on posters by just assessing what we see on the forum, internet, and auction sites...  There are so many collectors and dealers that don't even do the internet.  For example my local guy has stashes of Japanese, French, Italians that he won't even let me see...  Every once in a while he pulls out a four or five star poster to entice me...  And he isn't on the internet.  He may be consigning but maybe not... There is also a guy out in Katy (west of Houston) that has a web site but only buy and sells through that one point.  I know he has almost every Eastwood and picked up a Prince and the Show Girl one day when I was visiting...  Then not to mention what has been tossed or stored in closets, barns, warehouse, storage lockers, etc just waiting to be found.  (The idea of this excites me to no end)...  

I think inventory numbers are useless, unless given from a studio or something...
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Post by: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 30, 2012, 11:53:24 AM
And I wouldn't have spent more than $20 on it.  So there I go enforcing your point ;)

What do you mean?  Don't you know there are only 12 left in the world?  $20 when it sold for $2k at Heritage?  What's wrong with you!

Sorry Mel, but as much as I appreciate your constant efforts towards this hobby, a lot of them quite amazing, this is a little bit funny.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2012, 12:53:02 PM
This is always an interesting topic, and it has been discussed in other threads, when rarity comes into question. The likely reality is, no one can ever know, for sure, how many copies of a certain poster exist. Sure, there are copies that will appear for auction, or sale, but, as T said, there are also collectors who own copies who have no intention of selling anytime soon.

So if a certain style poster (whether it be Barbarella or any another) is popping up a couple times a year for auction, it would appear to be very unlikely that only 20 copies would exist, in its entirety. This appears as if the same handful of posters are flipped time and again, and while some copies (of any poster are), not all will be. Since no one knows for certain how many copies of Any poster truly exist (and this is very different than "Known To Exist"), to put a concrete, finite number on one is a guess or opinion at best, regardless of how rare it is described to be.

Even the 4 copies of the Style F Dracula OS are described as "only known copies." The Berwick Discovery showed that there are always others out there, potentially waiting to be re-discovered.  ;)



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Post by: CineMasterpieces on May 30, 2012, 04:43:35 PM

Charlie, I wish we had a roll of them!

We did have a rolled, never folded style B awhile back. Could it be the only rolled never folded one on earth?

(http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/barbarellabprbebay.jpg)

We do have one of the psychedelic 40x60's in stock. I'm actually planning on framing it for our new game room.
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Post by: Charlie on May 30, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on May 30, 2012, 04:43:35 PM
Charlie, I wish we had a roll of them!

Now that one may be worth the 1K or perhaps 2... Nice Dave - What did it go for?
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Post by: CSM on May 30, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 30, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Now that one may be worth the 1K or perhaps 2... Nice Dave - What did it go for?

Probably 5 Pretty Woman one sheet's worth
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 30, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Probably 5 Pretty Woman one sheet' worth

 qip
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Post by: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 30, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Probably 5 Pretty Woman one sheet' worth
Ah Ah Ah...  That Pretty Woman thing will follow Dave to his grave.  I don't think we can ever forget it.  Good times!

T
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 06:29:31 PM
I agree we can't know precisely how many are left but if there were 100 it seems, given the normal turnover of posters (few collectors are lifers and most keep a poster only for a few years before reselling)  they would show up much more often than they do. Maybe 20 is a low estimate but it surely can't be more than 50. Only two dealers are selling the Style B right now (that I can find).

I would guess the average turnover for higher-level posters is 7 years.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2012, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 06:29:31 PM
I would guess the average turnover for higher-level posters is 7 years.


Mel, from longtime experience I can tell you the average turnover for collections is approx 15-20 years.
However there are people who regularly turn over their collections to fund newer purchases, while at the same time there are quite a number of people who don't move anything out until they're coming to the end of their years, excepting when they do that rare trade of something they own for something the other guy owns.

concerning the Barbarella B, I'd have to say there are most likely 100-200 or maybe even more of them extant. the majority of copies will not turn over for a very long time and I have no doubt people like Loce have multiple copies that are never sold as they don't need to sell them, having so much other stuff to sell.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
We cannot precisely know:

(1) the quantity originally printed
(2) the "churn" rate
(3) the number of private transactions

So the question is whether you can correctly estimate the number of extant copies of a particular poster if you only know the number of public sales from three prominent auctioneers: Heritage, Christies and Emovie.

Take the example of "This Gun For Hire" one sheet. We know there have been 10 sales in the last 10 years from Heritage (7), Emovie (1), and Christie's (2).

By contrast, there have been 60 sales of "Forbidden Planet."  Can we assume that there are roughly six times more extant FP posters?

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2012, 08:19:32 PM
Mel.. you know that you're my pal, but the problem you have in this concerning this particular poster and concerning how you arrive at some of your suppositions is , as we used to say, "all wet"

people like Myself, Sean, Bruce etc who have been selling comics, posters and the like for many decades (in my case, selling since 1966) are able to arrive at much more educated guesses than you can because of our experience. While 10 copies may have been sold publicly in X period, you have few records for what has sold on ebay since 1997 and you have no knowledge of dealer private sales. I may or may not know some of this information which helsp me arrive at a number. Also, I have experience with collectors that shows me what the recycle rate is. I have posters I've had for 45 years and my collection doesn't open to the public unless I decide to get rid of that item. I also know people who sell the week after it arrives in the mail.

I have direct knowledge of things that help me arrive at a number. I can't see how there couldn't be more than 100 Barbarella B and I wouldn't be surprised if there are many many more than that. It just doesn't resell as often as other posters, because collectors are more likely to hold a rare poster
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Post by: oldposterho on May 30, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
You do have to throw the age of the poster you're talking about into the equation as well.  I think a rough estimate would be for every decade you go back, take a zero off of the number of available posters.  There's a decades difference betwixt "FP" and "TGFH", that's going to have a big difference in the surviving quantity.

Also with "modern" (post-'60s) (I know, I know) posters, there's always the threat of some big NSS stash lurking behind the scenes, just waiting to be unloaded.  I'd guess for a poster as late as "Barbarella," even for a rare style, you're still talking about a potential of low hundreds in the mix.
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on May 30, 2012, 08:41:57 PM

Speaking of "stashes", check out what someone in the Netherlands just sent us. 5 NM-M unused British Godfather one sheets.


(http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/82011/gmay12.jpg)
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on May 30, 2012, 08:44:08 PM

Charlie.

I don't remember exactly what we sold the rolled Barbarella style B for. We had it listed for 3k. We may have sold it for full price. If not it was most likely discounted no more than 10%.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: oldposterho on May 30, 2012, 08:21:06 PM
Also with "modern" (post-'60s) (I know, I know) posters, there's always the threat of some big NSS stash lurking behind the scenes, just waiting to be unloaded.  I'd guess for a poster as late as "Barbarella," even for a rare style, you're still talking about a potential of low hundreds in the mix.

Yeah, the Mysterians poster is a prime example.  Heritage has unloaded several hundred of them in the last couple of years on Ebay and you could get one for $10.  A few years ago they were selling for much more, like this one:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Mysterians.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on May 30, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
so can we at least agree there is 27?
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Post by: Zorba on May 30, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: Ari on May 30, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
so can we at least agree there is 27?

No. I am still checking with my contacts.
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Post by: eatbrie on May 30, 2012, 10:49:11 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 06:29:31 PM
...few collectors are lifers and most keep a poster only for a few years before reselling...

The amount of life collectors who actually participate in online conversations is also minimal.  I can think of at least 10 huge collectors who will not join a forum or display their collections.  And that's only the people I know.  There are many, many more.  And a lot of them, I'm sure, own your Barbarella poster.  For all we know, there could be more than 500 out there.

Look at Stout's The Thing.  About 300 were printed.  And they ALL still exist.  How many show up for sale every year?

I'm only using the above example because at least we know how many were printed.  If we could estimate how many Barbarella were printed in 1968, which I think is the key question, we could have a better idea how many are still out there.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on May 30, 2012, 10:57:27 PM
yep .
One of my best buddies has one, and he has never heard of APF - he has only heard of NS4 because he is my friend & we chat.(in person).

can we say 28 and rising?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on May 31, 2012, 01:43:27 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 30, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
Take the example of "This Gun For Hire" one sheet. We know there have been 10 sales in the last 10 years from Heritage (7), Emovie (1), and Christie's (2).
By contrast, there have been 60 sales of "Forbidden Planet."  Can we assume that there are roughly six times more extant FP posters?

There are probably 20-30-40x more Forbidden Planet one-sheets than This Gun For Hire.
In 1993, my partner went to a friend's house in Miami after he had returned from Cuba and among the loads of goodies he had, he laid out 17 never-used snow-white papered copies of Forbidden Planet.
I had only been part-time selling for a few years (we owned two comic-book stores at the time and that was our main thing) and was afraid this was going to crash the market on the title, so I mistakenly only bought five copies. The other 12 he sold in one lot to a very prominent NY dealer.
Later on when I was telling (more like warning) some of the other then-long time dealers about my purchase and what I had scene the response was more along the lines of "That's it?", with a prominent local dealer (Paper Chase) telling me about an exchange they had purchased a few years prior where they had ended up with over 40 copies of Forbidden Planet (all in various stages of use/non-use) and that was after the exchange had been selling off posters to collectors for over a decade.

I have found that there are generally five levels of rarity in posters

5. Post Star Wars.
   That one movie really turned the hobby around. Dealers were buying rolls and rolls of this poster for years (literally) and it ramped up demand for all paper in general

4. 1960 - 1976.
   It was around this time that some organized collecting started in earnest, some exchanges started selling material directly to collectors, and some dealers started speculating in "new" releases (James Bond, etc). I have a Film World catalog from 1967 that lists most James Bond and 50s sci-fi posters at $1-2 each already, and actually has some early Universal horror lobby sets priced at $75-100 per set (including Dracula). The most expensive item in the catalog is an original German set on Die Nibelungen for $250. So even back then the rarity of certain pieces was already established. (and Bruce if you are reading this, I loaned this to you and would like to get it back some day).

3. 1945 - 1959. 
    Post-war and most things can be found with a little effort, as the NSS basically stored everything until they couldn't use it anymore.

2. Post NSS, Wartime (1940-1945)
    Wartime paper drives pulped tons of material made during this time (and earlier), but NSS kept enough stuff around to ensure they could supply posters to theaters

1. Pre-NSS, Pre-War (and then add pre-code for some more toughness).
    For each studio, the dates will vary as to when they signed their contracts with NSS and the paper becomes more plentiful, but as a general rule pre-NSS material from each studio is drastically more difficult to find than post-NSS.

Of course there will always be exceptions to the above rules (Stashes of individual titles found somewhere, or particular titles pulped prematurely, etc.), but this gives a general guideline to how I see the rarity of most paper. Perhaps Bruce, Rich, or other longtime dealers can give their own thoughts.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 31, 2012, 03:26:17 AM
in 1968 at the New York ComicCon, there was a guy just to the right of the entrance that was selling movie paper (I don't know who it was). He had Buster Crabbe at his table signing Flash Gordon cards for customers (after they bought the cards of course). On his small cardboard display he had Frankenstein lobby cards at $100 each  (quite a sum for a truly poor 11 year old, who, though he was already selling comics, never had enough food. Truly.)

I did buy a DTESS pressbook for $5 and a Beast From 20,000 Fathoms 1sh for $15. I did sell both for a profit within an hour or so. I think Ron Borst bought the latter from me while Mark Carducci bought the former (sorry you're gone Mark).

When Jerry Ohlinger had the two Phantom one sheets in his small store, they were $1000 each. Maybe that was '71 or '72. Maybe earlier. When I saw them I was literally awestruck, even at that age.

I forget what my point was supposed to be, so let's just make it a history lesson
 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 31, 2012, 05:56:10 PM
Today I decided to flip thru Photoplay OZ , Feb '67......one of the readers thought it was a shame that you could not buy movie posters ;)

Batman article , The Saint , 007 YOLT.......holy nostalgia.

I think extras on Batman who had small speaking parts got like 150$ , that was a lot of dough then !
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 31, 2012, 06:01:02 PM
US posters aren't really that rare , try to find danish posters (TX Chainsaw , 007 1st issue matte paper).....now that's rare  bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 01, 2012, 06:41:43 AM
in the guise of being fair, with the intention of both showing off and laughing.

I am at this moment the highest bidder on each and every one of Rich's auctions.
Suck on that ya muthas... ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2012, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: Ari on June 01, 2012, 06:41:43 AM
in the guise of being fair, with the intention of both showing off and laughing.

I am at this moment the highest bidder on each and every one of Rich's auctions.
Suck on that ya muthas... ;D

woo-hoo.. and I now just realized that 5 auctions of inserts are missing..
have to see what's with that when I get to the office (yeah folks.. I work late.. I get in at 1 or 2pm.. suck on that!!)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on June 01, 2012, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2012, 03:16:47 PM
woo-hoo.. and I now just realized that 5 auctions of inserts are missing..
have to see what's with that when I get to the office (yeah folks.. I work late.. I get in at 1 or 2pm.. suck on that!!)
Sometimes I roll up out of bed at 9...life`s good.. :P.

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 31, 2012, 01:43:27 AM
There are probably 20-30-40x more Forbidden Planet one-sheets than This Gun For Hire.
In 1993, my partner went to a friend's house in Miami after he had returned from Cuba and among the loads of goodies he had, he laid out 17 never-used snow-white papered copies of Forbidden Planet.
I had only been part-time selling for a few years (we owned two comic-book stores at the time and that was our main thing) and was afraid this was going to crash the market on the title, so I mistakenly only bought five copies. The other 12 he sold in one lot to a very prominent NY dealer.
Later on when I was telling (more like warning) some of the other then-long time dealers about my purchase and what I had scene the response was more along the lines of "That's it?", with a prominent local dealer (Paper Chase) telling me about an exchange they had purchased a few years prior where they had ended up with over 40 copies of Forbidden Planet (all in various stages of use/non-use) and that was after the exchange had been selling off posters to collectors for over a decade.

I have found that there are generally five levels of rarity in posters

5. Post Star Wars.
   That one movie really turned the hobby around. Dealers were buying rolls and rolls of this poster for years (literally) and it ramped up demand for all paper in general

4. 1960 - 1976.
   It was around this time that some organized collecting started in earnest, some exchanges started selling material directly to collectors, and some dealers started speculating in "new" releases (James Bond, etc). I have a Film World catalog from 1967 that lists most James Bond and 50s sci-fi posters at $1-2 each already, and actually has some early Universal horror lobby sets priced at $75-100 per set (including Dracula). The most expensive item in the catalog is an original German set on Die Nibelungen for $250. So even back then the rarity of certain pieces was already established. (and Bruce if you are reading this, I loaned this to you and would like to get it back some day).

3. 1945 - 1959. 
    Post-war and most things can be found with a little effort, as the NSS basically stored everything until they couldn't use it anymore.

2. Post NSS, Wartime (1940-1945)
    Wartime paper drives pulped tons of material made during this time (and earlier), but NSS kept enough stuff around to ensure they could supply posters to theaters

1. Pre-NSS, Pre-War (and then add pre-code for some more toughness).
    For each studio, the dates will vary as to when they signed their contracts with NSS and the paper becomes more plentiful, but as a general rule pre-NSS material from each studio is drastically more difficult to find than post-NSS.

Of course there will always be exceptions to the above rules (Stashes of individual titles found somewhere, or particular titles pulped prematurely, etc.), but this gives a general guideline to how I see the rarity of most paper. Perhaps Bruce, Rich, or other longtime dealers can give their own thoughts.



Great synopsis and break down, Sean. Very informative. Thanks for that.  thumbup


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 01, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2012, 03:16:47 PM
woo-hoo.. and I now just realized that 5 auctions of inserts are missing..
have to see what's with that when I get to the office (yeah folks.. I work late.. I get in at 1 or 2pm.. suck on that!!)

Oh nice, I need some more inserts.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2012, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Ari on June 01, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Oh nice, I need some more inserts.

go get 'em
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Post by: Ari on June 01, 2012, 11:05:25 PM
yes mr Boss man.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 01, 2012, 11:44:23 PM
Quote from: Ari on June 01, 2012, 06:41:43 AM

I am at this moment the highest bidder on each and every one of Rich's auctions.
Suck on that ya muthas... ;D


I can see a few I like. I might get one or two from you if you win  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 01, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
ahhha.
maybe Ill consign them all to Rich  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Posterodyssey on June 03, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 22, 2012, 10:30:19 PM
OneSheetIndex's Barbarella Style B is up (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2578855):

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/barbarella_styleB_HP00375_L.jpg)

Wow! 1,000,didn't know this was in such demand now.Might be scarce on ebay now,but 10 years ago they popped up more than twice a year.Not sure if it's that rare really.They all got bought up during the initial ebay craze and everyone is sittin' on them would be my guess.
Myself,I'm partial to the 40x60 art,or the Japanese stuff.
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 03, 2012, 04:34:22 AM
yeah would have been 10-12 years ago my friend got one, I remember comparing it one night with his other versions of the films posters, and we thought it was the ugliest, but he loves the film.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Posterodyssey on June 03, 2012, 04:50:24 AM
Yeah I agree,Ari,doesn't compare to the other styles.But if ya love the film I can certainly understand wanting this poster.
I did enjoy all her different costumes but,film not my favorite. ;)

Anthony
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 09, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-STAR-WARS-US-TRIPLE-BILL-one-sheet-movie-poster-100-REAL-/150831995123?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231e4998f3

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-STAR-WARS-US-TRIPLE-BILL-one-sheet-movie-poster-100-REAL-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMzkw/$(KGrHqJ,!rgE-dIYuygzBP0QOm3lW!~~60_57.JPG)

Wow. If it's real, which I believe is the case based on the close up pictures, very nice...

I wonder what the "VERY high" reserve is.

Too bad it got backed onto some unknown paper. And the seller wants local pickup only.
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Post by: stewart boyle on June 09, 2012, 05:52:05 AM
Quote from: enki on June 09, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-STAR-WARS-US-TRIPLE-BILL-one-sheet-movie-poster-100-REAL-/150831995123?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231e4998f3

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-STAR-WARS-US-TRIPLE-BILL-one-sheet-movie-poster-100-REAL-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMzkw/$(KGrHqJ,!rgE-dIYuygzBP0QOm3lW!~~60_57.JPG)

Wow. If it's real, which I believe is the case based on the close up pictures, very nice...

I wonder what the "VERY high" reserve is.

Too bad it got backed onto some unknown paper. And the seller wants local pickup only.
70mm and Star Wars..got my name written all over it..very nice...
However,from the sellers pictures,there seems to be two images..one with Plitt Carnegie Theatre,the other without..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 09, 2012, 05:58:34 AM
I know NOTHING about these, well, not much, but of the others seen/documented, how many are unused?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 09, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
Quote from: stewart boyle on June 09, 2012, 05:52:05 AM
70mm and Star Wars..got my name written all over it..very nice...
However,from the sellers pictures,there seems to be two images..one with Plitt Carnegie Theatre,the other without..

Stew


He says in the description that he's including the bootleg to show the differences. The Carnegie is the bootleg.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 09, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 09, 2012, 05:58:34 AM
I know NOTHING about these, well, not much, but of the others seen/documented, how many are unused?

There aren't many details about the surviving posters. The seller claims to know where 6 are now. He also goes into great detail on the history of the posters in general, but I was surprised he didn't go into more detail on the history of his specific poster. IE: where he got it, how he got it, etc.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on June 09, 2012, 12:12:16 PM
Quote from: enki on June 09, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
He says in the description that he's including the bootleg to show the differences. The Carnegie is the bootleg.
Sorry ..my bad...thats what i get when i dont read the full listing...

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 09, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
I also posted this in the Triple Bill authentication thread (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4324.0.html), which has a link to my authentication of this poster.

I talked to this guy a couple of weeks ago. It seems to be the real deal. I told him to consign it but he thinks he's going to get $15,000 for it on Ebay and doesn't want to pay a larger commission.  I think he's dreaming. The ESB "international" poster only sold for $1,800.  Don't see how he could get more for this one.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 09, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 09, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
I also posted this in the Triple Bill authentication thread (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4324.0.html), which has a link to my authentication of this poster.

I talked to this guy a couple of weeks ago. It seems to be the real deal. I told him to consign it but he thinks he's going to get $15,000 for it on Ebay and doesn't want to pay a larger commission.  I think he's dreaming. The ESB "international" poster only sold for $1,800.  Don't see how he could get more for this one.


Yeah, like I said in that thread, I just don't see it. Especially since it's dry backed. And on eBay. And local pickup only. And he makes it clear he set it at a very high reserve. Half of his description is basically designed to scare people off from bidding.

The other main problem is that there is really no precedent for historical prices. It's so rare, and so uncommon to ever come up for sale, that it's impossible to tell how much it could go for. That's a double edged sword. If there was no reserve, I could see a couple (or more) bidders getting into some war and it going up to a few thousand, but that's it. IMHO, he chose the worst possible venue for selling it. He thinks it's worth a ton, but is too greedy to try and sell it at a place that would realize the best possible price.

Based on the pics, and the limited authentication information (your site, starwarsmovieposter.com), I think it's legit too. But there are some concerns. This poster was supposed to be done on a very thick cardstock, and it looks practically mint in the pics. Why would someone have backed it with paper? And the seller went into so much detail about the history of the poster in general, but left out any specifics of how he acquired it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 09, 2012, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: enki on June 09, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
Based on the pics, and the limited authentication information (your site, starwarsmovieposter.com), I think it's legit too. But there are some concerns. This poster was supposed to be done on a very thick cardstock, and it looks practically mint in the pics. Why would someone have backed it with paper? And the seller went into so much detail about the history of the poster in general, but left out any specifics of how he acquired it.

Enki, you're always so suspicious :)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/suspicious.jpg)

He says his neighbor worked at the theater that was showing it. It was dry-mounted 15 years ago.  Most people think dry-mounting is a great idea, so it's hardly suspicious.

These do exist so it's not surprising that one finally showed up.  He revealed a couple of other owners (but made me promise not to tell, apparently it's like the Skull and Bones club of the poster world), so everything seems legit except his expectations for the price.

It would be somewhat difficult to do a good fake of this.  The only decent source image I'm aware of is a medium quality image in the Star Wars poster book and you'd have to change the text to match the local theater plus deal with the usual difficulties of transforming a small image into a high-quality large digital image.

Also, who else would have this pin?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Button.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 09, 2012, 07:54:39 PM
No artwork...no interest.
Why anyone would want to pay more than $50 for this triple-bill is beyond me.
I don't care how many (or few) are in existence.  It's about as interesting as athlete's foot.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 09, 2012, 08:24:08 PM
I dunno, I like it. It's part of Star Wars history.

I'd definitely pay more then $50, but nowhere near $15k. Not even the same game, let alone anywhere near the ballpark.

And yes, I am always suspicious  8). Trust, but verify.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 09, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
I understand, Enki.
Guess I'm just in one them moods...purging my posters.
Getting ready to sell junk that doesn't excite me anymore.

If I had that triple-bill, I'd consign it to Bruce.
Dude ain't gonna get squat from Ebay.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on June 09, 2012, 08:40:54 PM
Quote from: brude on June 09, 2012, 07:54:39 PM
No artwork...no interest.

Spot on, brother!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 09, 2012, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: brude on June 09, 2012, 08:28:42 PM

Guess I'm just in one them moods...purging my posters.


So should we expect a tornado of printed hot chicks?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 09, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on June 09, 2012, 09:12:32 PM
So should we expect a tornado of printed hot chicks?  ;)

A few, you horn-dog.  wynk

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 09, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
Quote from: brude on June 09, 2012, 10:13:53 PM
A few, you horn-dog.  wynk



I can't help it  woohoo
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on June 10, 2012, 02:42:41 AM
Quote from: brude on June 09, 2012, 07:54:39 PM
No artwork...no interest.
Why anyone would want to pay more than $50 for this triple-bill is beyond me.
I don't care how many (or few) are in existence.  It's about as interesting as athlete's foot.

Quote from: Matt on June 09, 2012, 08:40:54 PM
Spot on, brother!



You illiterates........Always need a pretty picture to look at..... wynk


You never seen the Text only thread.... ;D

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Post by: brude on June 10, 2012, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: paul waines on June 10, 2012, 02:42:41 AM


You illiterates........Always need a pretty picture to look at..... wynk


You never seen the Text only thread.... ;D



...and this from a guy who hates STAR WARS?
I truly live in Bizarro World.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t9D_ovmGhQE/RkzrPIIfJ0I/AAAAAAAAKFU/vECjZijHyJw/s400/Bizarro+Code.jpg) (http://literarytable.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bizarro-world.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on June 10, 2012, 12:15:36 PM
I love Star Wars...................Well, just the original 3..... with you the force may be. :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 10, 2012, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 10, 2012, 12:15:36 PM
I love Star Wars...................Well, just the original 3..... with you the force may be. :D

Same here.
I have underestimated your awesomeness.
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
A beautiful looking 3 sheet for THE MUMMY'S CURSE (Universal 1944), starring Lon Chaney, Jr.

$8000.00 (obo), and it can be had!  ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290726187186

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mummys-Curse-3-sheet-poster-rare-Universal-Horror-Original-Lon-Chaney-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqF,!nME-0nlEHJGBP07Z2iZVQ~~60_12.JPG) (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mummys-Curse-3-sheet-poster-rare-Universal-Horror-Original-Lon-Chaney-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!oUE63(fotv6BP07bL0,eQ~~60_12.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 10, 2012, 02:25:57 PM
Sigh  :-[
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on June 10, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Oooooooh, Me needs more money... :-\
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 10, 2012, 03:51:10 PM
Stop crying people. The listing has a "make an offer" option.
Will he take $100?  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 10, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on June 10, 2012, 03:51:10 PM
Stop crying people. The listing has a "make an offer" option.
Will he take $100?  :D

Maybe in pesos ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 10, 2012, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 10, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Maybe in pesos ;)

I'm a cheap bastard, just not THAT cheap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 14, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
I emailed the seller this morning about this Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes OS.  I have not received a response and the listing is still there.  It clearly has the white specks in the same pattern as the known bootleg.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on June 14, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
You're 100% correct.


Quote from: NeoLoco on June 14, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
I emailed the seller this morning about this Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes OS.  I have not received a response and the listing is still there.  It clearly has the white specks in the same pattern as the known bootleg.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27)




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 14, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on June 14, 2012, 09:42:03 PM
I emailed the seller this morning about this Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes OS.  I have not received a response and the listing is still there.  It clearly has the white specks in the same pattern as the known bootleg.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Pulp-Fiction-Original-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-v3565-/110895750951?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d1e6df27)

Good catch.  I sent a message too - the "I'll contact the winner and let him/her know that you sold a bootleg" threat usually does the trick....

Dear lelands.com,

This is a well-known bootleg reprint.  You can see the spots on her chest and the top (which you've covered up) is no doubt cropped. See this authentication:

http://moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Pulp_Fiction.html

I would hope you would correct this posting. If not, I'll contact the winner of the auction and advise him/her that you knowingly sold a bootleg.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 14, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
How would you be able to contact the winner directly? The userid is hidden. The only way you would be able to tell is if they leave feedback, where the item and userid is made available. Unless I'm missing some backdoor technique.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 14, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: enki on June 14, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
How would you be able to contact the winner directly? The userid is hidden. The only way you would be able to tell is if they leave feedback, where the item and userid is made available. Unless I'm missing some backdoor technique.

Yep, most people leave feedback....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 14, 2012, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 14, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
Yep, most people leave feedback....

Dave doesn't...
 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 14, 2012, 11:13:57 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 14, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
Yep, most people leave feedback....

Anyone know if a buyer still has recourse (i.e. filing an eBay/Paypal claim) AFTER leaving positive feedback?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:15:34 PM
maybe you can blame it on good manners and low self esteem?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 14, 2012, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:15:34 PM
maybe you can blame it on good manners and low self esteem?

That doesn't always get you out of a jam Ari...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
worked for Al Shevy  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 14, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 14, 2012, 11:13:57 PM
Anyone know if a buyer still has recourse (i.e. filing an eBay/Paypal claim) AFTER leaving positive feedback?

Yup. Buyers have 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the power when it comes to eBay/PayPal. If they want to dispute something, they can pretty much do it up until they can't do a chargeback anymore. And in the end, they will almost always win. They could always claim that the merchandise turned out to be fake, defective, whatever.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on June 14, 2012, 11:39:36 PM
As long as you are within the return window.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:50:17 PM
I heard a rumor about greeks and the return window ;)


(whats this? pick on Zorba day?)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 14, 2012, 11:53:30 PM
Quote from: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:50:17 PM
I heard a rumor about greeks and the return window ;)


(whats this? pick on Zorba day?)

He can take it.  He's METAL!  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on June 14, 2012, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 14, 2012, 11:53:30 PM
He can take it.  He's METAL!  ;)

Damn straight!

 happy1

and Ari. Thanks for the video. I will be having nightmares  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on June 14, 2012, 11:57:05 PM
anytime my friend, anytime.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 15, 2012, 06:29:55 AM
Deadlines:

Ebay Buyer Protection (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/buyer-protection.html): 45 days from date of payment (including non-Paypal payments)

Paypal Dispute (https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full&locale.x=en_USl): 45 days from payment

The 45 day deadline is crucial.  They will not allow you to file a claim at all after the deadline passes.  

In my experience, the buyer always wins.  Ebay/Paypal simply orders the posters to be returned for a refund.

Ebay Feedback deadline: 60 days after purchase/end of auction

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on June 15, 2012, 09:49:45 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 15, 2012, 06:29:55 AM
In my experience, the buyer always wins.  Ebay/Paypal simply orders the posters to be returned for a refund.

That has been my experience as well.  I've lobbied hard trying to get the seller to cover return shipping, but I have had to shell out for that on occasion.  Still, being out $8 is better than the alternative.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 15, 2012, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 14, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
Good catch.  I sent a message too - the "I'll contact the winner and let him/her know that you sold a bootleg" threat usually does the trick....

Dear lelands.com,

This is a well-known bootleg reprint.  You can see the spots on her chest and the top (which you've covered up) is no doubt cropped. See this authentication:

http://moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Pulp_Fiction.html

I would hope you would correct this posting. If not, I'll contact the winner of the auction and advise him/her that you knowingly sold a bootleg.

Sounds like a good plan to thwart the sale of a fake as an original, but the fact that he has left feedback since the messages were sent to him (he was active on eBay and likely saw the messages), and the auction has not been taken down, it looks like he's not going to take it down unless he is forced to.  A good example of what happens when there is not an agency proactively enforcing certain laws, people are less likely to abide by those laws.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 15, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
eBay only cares if a big enough company complains - even if the company is full of crap.

If a verified movie studio filed a complaint about someone selling fake copyrighted posters, it would be down in a heartbeat.

They do this all the time, especially for things like computer software, claiming that it's not legit. eBay doesn't even try to verify, they just pull the listing.

But if you or I try to let them know, they couldn't give two sh*ts.

Caveat emptor.

On a side note, I sent a message to the seller as well. Never heard anything back...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on June 16, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Looks like someone has a lot of reading to do  :o

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2589402 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2589402)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on June 16, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on June 16, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Looks like someone has a lot of reading to do  :o

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2589402 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2589402)

That is soooo cool though...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 17, 2012, 02:33:58 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110895750951

Looks like that seller did the right thing and ended the auction early, killing the bids.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2012, 12:06:20 AM
My guess is we have another Portal in the loop. No description or size is mentioned, is listed as original and is in the 1950-59 sub category. It is framed, hiding the printer's info:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Cat-movie-poster-Bela-Lagossi-/110899481109?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item19d21fca15


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Black-Cat-movie-poster-Bela-Lagossi-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!hYE6eU(oJM7BP3hqM3wPw~~60_12.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 21, 2012, 12:11:02 AM
Almost certainly.  I can't make out any fold lines.  Too good to be true ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2012, 12:16:04 AM
And this poster, if original, would never sell for $500.00, let alone have a Best Offer..  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 21, 2012, 12:16:30 AM
dimensions are incorrect for a Portal and I say it's a one sheet size repro
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
This is all we get, info wise: "Karloff and Bella Lagossi, Edgar Allen Poe's The Black Cat movie Poster"

Bela would be impressed with that newfangled spelling of his name, too.  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 21, 2012, 12:37:38 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 21, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
This is all we get, info wise: "Karloff and Bella Lagossi, Edgar Allen Poe's The Black Cat movie Poster"

Bela would be impressed with that newfangled spelling of his name, too.  :P

That's pretty terrible when his name is right on the f'n poster!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2012, 12:42:30 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 21, 2012, 12:37:38 AM
That's pretty terrible when his name is right on the f'n poster!

Isn't that the truth!!  :o
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 21, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Sure looks like the Portal.
$500? 
Whatta deal!  hitself

Where the fluck do these people come from?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: theartofmovieposters on June 27, 2012, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: brude on June 21, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Sure looks like the Portal.
$500? 
Whatta deal!  hitself

Where the fluck do these people come from?


Ok Ok...first one in can have mine for 499.99 and i will include shipping in that price.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2012, 10:55:08 PM
Profiles in History catalogs just got here for the July Auctions..
they have conceptual art by Tom Jung for Star Wars posters, including the nearly finished Style-A version
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: enki on June 27, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2012, 10:55:08 PM
Profiles in History catalogs just got here for the July Auctions..
they have conceptual art by Tom Jung for Star Wars posters, including the nearly finished Style-A version

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 moron1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 01:48:55 PM
I find it hard to believe people still are willing to bid high prices for these Alamo/Mondo posters
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280908608905?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280908609686?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280908610388?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ed_209uk on July 02, 2012, 04:12:13 PM
Why hard to believe? If anything their popularity continues to increase by the week and there are only so many to go around.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on July 02, 2012, 04:31:34 PM
You young kids and your prints..... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
Ed, Mondos are art prints specifically meant to be sold to collectors in quantities only limited by edition size. In this case, edition sizes of 850, all of which get distributed to collectors. 850 is a lot of posters in a market and the only thing that jugged the price peaks on them is the scandalous way that the later editions were handled, which in some ways could be compared to fraud, like when they hold the major portions back from sale, really just creating a situation where the edition size is 100 or less, until all the people involved start releasing the massive remaining quantity. in other businesses, it's called "price manipulation".

the only difference between Alamo's & Mondos is that Alamo is an actual theatre and will display the posters, but unlike actual movie posters, their editions are no longer meant to be used to promote the movies as much as to be sold as limited edition art prints (yes, they are only limited edition art prints). As an art dealer of many years, who only sold original illustrations & paintings & not prints of any kind (but did keep track of all art market forms, including prints), I can tell you that print prices in virtually every market eventually drop like a lead brick and become among the worst investments of any kind.

the prices on these posters are outsized for what they are in my opinion and in the future many of you who own them will be commiserating on what they are.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ed_209uk on July 02, 2012, 05:57:39 PM
I agree that some of the figures they've reached recently are eye-watering to say the least, and I've no reason to doubt your assertion that the prices will eventually drop to more sensible levels. I've never paid above original cost price for any of them (except for the recent Struzan Thing print) and I don't mind what happens to their worth - they're not investments for me. I'd hang any of the ones I own as great bits of art and be happy with them from that point of view. We don't need to rehash the 'are they movie posters' argument again and FWIW I'm in the 'no' camp.

I'm wondering why you think it's weird that the prices are still up there *now*. Surely it'll take years before they start to drop, as with any art market that hits a popular high?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
getting into them at original price or close to is the perfect way to go.

as to your question: because 2009-2011 was a manipulated market and usually price points decrease steadily once the critical mass is reached. It is however easily noticeable to see that people who have them listed week after week on ebay aren't selling many, if any at the prices they ask, which includes even the $50 posters. There might be 10-20 of the entire Mondo/Alamo craze that really sell anymore, and of course, the SW posters are among them..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4185 on July 02, 2012, 07:50:07 PM
I don't have any interest in the vast majority of those Alamo posters.

What do you think of these? I didn't think there was a Beast from 20,000 Fathoms TC.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/221062074890?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 02, 2012, 08:56:34 PM
That's a very cool collection of title cards -- only one Mex in the mix.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
at least some are phony
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on July 02, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
at least some are phony

Rich?!  How can you say that?  Other than the fact that the front three are apparently trimmed window cards, the rest are perfectly....  illegible.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 02, 2012, 09:17:21 PM
The Beast is either a fake or a 1/2 sheet. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 02, 2012, 09:18:52 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on July 02, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
Other than the fact that the front three are apparently trimmed window cards, the rest are perfectly....  illegible.

Good eye, Jay.
That certainly looks like what they are.
The perspective fooled me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on July 02, 2012, 09:10:48 PM
Rich?!  How can you say that?  Other than the fact that the front three are apparently trimmed window cards, the rest are perfectly....  illegible.

from the top left

body snatchers, don't know, rodan, don't know
neanderthal man, curse of the mummys tomb, mexican card, h-man
beast from hollow mountain, curse of the fly, lost world, mex card for magic sword

beast is a fake at that size. wc is set up differently. it's just a camera perspective that makes those three items look large
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 02, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
beast is a fake at that size. wc is set up differently. it's just a camera perspective that makes those three items look large

How true.
I shoulda noticed that seeing as I have one.
Not my pic, but the WC looks like this.

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/beastwindowcard.jpg)

Gotta stop drinking so early...

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
can't wait to display the three sheet I got in Heritage in that last signature auction
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on July 02, 2012, 10:42:27 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
can't wait to display the three sheet I got in Heritage in that last signature auction

I can't wait to display this (if I still have it once I wake up  ;D)

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7060&lotNo=83236#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7060&lotNo=83236#Photo)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 03, 2012, 12:44:55 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
can't wait to display the three sheet I got in Heritage in that last signature auction

 wow1 wow1 wow1 wow1 wow1

Pics?  Pics?
What a friggin' tease.
 pcorn
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 02:58:24 AM
Quote from: brude on July 03, 2012, 12:44:55 AM
wow1 wow1 wow1 wow1 wow1

Pics?  Pics?
What a friggin' tease.
 pcorn

we were talking about Beast From 20.000 Fathoms weren't we??
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on July 03, 2012, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 02, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
from the top left

body snatchers, don't know, rodan, don't know
neanderthal man, curse of the mummys tomb, mexican card, h-man
beast from hollow mountain, curse of the fly, lost world, mex card for magic sword

beast is a fake at that size. wc is set up differently. it's just a camera perspective that makes those three items look large

Portrait orientation title cards?  Even allowing for perspective, these are obviously taller than wide.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 03, 2012, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 02:58:24 AM
we were talking about Beast From 20.000 Fathoms weren't we??

Does a one-legged duck swim in a circle?
Yes.
 wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: brude on July 03, 2012, 10:39:41 AM
Does a one-legged duck swim in a circle?

sometimes it just zig-zags

and what I'm saying is.. you can just as easily go to Heritage and find the 3sh & get the image, from here
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055&lotNo=83495
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 03, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
sometimes it just zig-zags

and what I'm saying is.. you can just as easily go to Heritage and find the 3sh & get the image, from here
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055&lotNo=83495

Very fine on linen, eh?
Congratulations, Rich.  It is stunning!
 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 03, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
You planning on keeping it Rich or have a buyer in mind?

I only ask as that's a lot of Chandler $$$ tied up there ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 09:42:17 PM
I bought Chandler stuff in the same auction

 :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 03, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 03, 2012, 09:42:17 PM
I bought Chandler stuff in the same auction

 :P

Well look at you!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4185 on July 04, 2012, 08:08:52 AM
that's a great Beast Rich, not as nice as the Aussie 3sh of course but still very impressive.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on July 08, 2012, 07:31:24 AM
A couple of really cool wacky James Bond promo items from the 1960s:

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/400/misc_james_bond_promos_lot_of_2_a_NZ05791_L.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2620638 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2620638)

2h069 LOT OF 2 JAMES BOND PROMO ITEMS FROM THE 1960s '60s cool decal & secret agent code book!

Description of Lot: a lot of 2 James Bond promo items from the 1960s. These are really cool! One is an 8" x 10" decal with the classic 007 symbol that surely dates from the 1960s (our consignor believes it was a "water-release" decal). The other is a "booby-trap" exploding code book (it is held shut with a pencil at the spine, and when you remove the pencil, you can open the book, but a tiny hidden cap gun is triggered and it makes a loud noise (if it is loaded with a cap). Both items come from the collection of a studio executive who acquired them in the 1960s, and we are certain they are authentic.
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Post by: Silhouette on July 09, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
If you live in Queensland this has come up http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280917725186&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

As I am not too bad at this sort of thing gives me a idea on how to improve my own storage....off to Bunnings this week-end!
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Post by: enki on July 09, 2012, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 09, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
If you live in Queensland this has come up http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280917725186&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

As I am not too bad at this sort of thing gives me a idea on how to improve my own storage....off to Bunnings this week-end!

If you live in Queensland, you have more important things to worry about:
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532115_343117719097063_325145154_n.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on July 09, 2012, 04:56:58 PM
Quite rare to see an image of a Drop Bear
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Post by: jayn_j on July 09, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Just wondering if Mel can possibly resist this one Rich has up  ;)

http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=93837
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 09, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on July 09, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Just wondering if Mel can possibly resist this one Rich has up  ;)

http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=93837

just one of the over 200 posters that are yet to break $2.00 this week!!
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Post by: Silhouette on July 09, 2012, 07:57:11 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on July 09, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Just wondering if Mel can possibly resist this one Rich has up  ;)

http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=93837

Classic.  laugh1
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Post by: holiday on July 09, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 09, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
just one of the over 200 posters that are yet to break $2.00 this week!!

Still wondering what happened to the rolled auction?
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Post by: Charlie on July 09, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 09, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
just one of the over 200 posters that are yet to break $2.00 this week!!

Built my watch list... my daughter got a kick out of being showered by peanuts when I opened up my inserts today...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 09, 2012, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: holiday on July 09, 2012, 08:39:04 PM
Still wondering what happened to the rolled auction?

I'm working on the railroad.. laying tracks takes a lot of sweat.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 09, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: Charlie on July 09, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
Built my watch list... my daughter got a kick out of being showered by peanuts when I opened up my inserts today...

I'll send you a small box of just peanuts if you want to give her some to play with

(Brude insert animation here)
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Post by: brude on July 09, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
I had a ferret who used to do the same thing as this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAKlBPytxdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAKlBPytxdM)
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Post by: brude on July 11, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
I know what window clings are, but what the heck is this supposed to be?
Rorschach test?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-Batman-Original-Movie-Window-Cling-Nolan-Hardy-Bale-/130728307698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7003abf2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-Batman-Original-Movie-Window-Cling-Nolan-Hardy-Bale-/130728307698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7003abf2)
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on July 11, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
Quote from: brude on July 11, 2012, 01:31:35 AM
I know what window clings are, but what the heck is this supposed to be?
Rorschach test?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-Batman-Original-Movie-Window-Cling-Nolan-Hardy-Bale-/130728307698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7003abf2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-Batman-Original-Movie-Window-Cling-Nolan-Hardy-Bale-/130728307698?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7003abf2)

I see stabbings and lots of them.
But that's just me.
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Post by: stewart boyle on July 11, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
I see ducks and bunnies....
Still don`t know what that means by the way guys....

Stew
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Post by: Ari on July 11, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
I see two idiots fighting over a crap poster.  ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 07:04:11 PM
Wonder how high the Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes will go?  So few have been sold on Heritage and Emovie that it's hard to predict. Probably $1500:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Screenshot2012-07-15at65448PM.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2633757)

LB sold for $1300 last year on eMovie:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Screenshot2012-07-15at65544PM.jpg)

Last sale on Heritage (yep, 5 years ago) for $1500:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Screenshot2012-07-15at65701PM.jpg)
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Post by: CJ138 on July 15, 2012, 07:30:36 PM
Wish I had one, I would sell it in a heartbeat.
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Post by: Bruce on July 15, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
No fair "outing" the auction, Mel!
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Post by: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on July 15, 2012, 07:30:36 PM
Wish I had one, I would sell it in a heartbeat.

Same here and Im a Tarantino fan.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 07:47:34 PM
This sale will set the true current FMV for a non-linenbacked copy.

The eBay price is $500-$700, but that reflects buyers' wariness of originality IMO.  

And of course Christie's sales really exist in Bizarro World and have no real world value.  

And why would you sell?  A true collector never sells his best stuff....
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Post by: Bruce on July 15, 2012, 07:52:45 PM
I feel it is true that the same guys who would "sell it in a heartbeat" at $1,500 ALSO said they would do so when it was "just" $750 (or $500, or $250). Meanwhile LOTS of "better" 1990s on posters keep climbing, and LOTS of really old posters go nowhere. Maybe it will reverse sometime soon, but maybe not.

Bruce
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Post by: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 15, 2012, 07:52:45 PM
I feel it is true that the same guys who would "sell it in a heartbeat" at $1,500 ALSO said they would do so when it was "just" $750 (or $500, or $250).

Probaby true for most but I wouldnt dump it at $500. I would hang it.

Now $1500 just seems like crazy money to me for that poster but then again I think the money that the Ferris INTL one sheet gets is nuts so Im not a good guide for pricing. ....Especially only 3 years into this. Not nearly enough time to be telling people what to do. I just like to see myself post.  ;D
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Post by: 110x75 on July 15, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
I think the money that the Ferris INTL one sheet gets is nuts so Im not a good guide for pricing. ....

 happy1
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Post by: CJ138 on July 15, 2012, 08:36:47 PM
Ditto what Z said.  All I meant was that $1500 (at this point) is more than I could imagine spending on a poster.  That said, I am sure there are many people who would call me crazy for spending as much as I did on some of my own collection.
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Post by: Freefall on July 15, 2012, 08:38:25 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2634300

This is the one I am most excited about!

Who knows how much this will go for?!?!? 200? 300? 500?!?

 :P
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 15, 2012, 08:50:07 PM
I just sold one in total mint and I had no problem getting the price
too bad it's not a poster I have lots of
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Post by: Silhouette on July 15, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
Early bidders are getting in, flexing their wallets to throw off the tyre kickers.
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Post by: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on July 15, 2012, 08:36:47 PM
That said, I am sure there are many people who would call me crazy for spending as much as I did on some of my own collection.

Same here. For instance I just hung three DKR posters  8)

I dont see where anyone is questioning that dealers can get $1500 for that PF ...we know you can.  More power to you all.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on July 15, 2012, 08:36:47 PM
Ditto what Z said.  All I meant was that $1500 (at this point) is more than I could imagine spending on a poster.  That said, I am sure there are many people who would call me crazy for spending as much as I did on some of my own collection.

But it's actually much smarter to buy higher-priced original movie posters than endless $20 posters (plus $8 to ship). The cheap posters will be a total loss whereas you can recover most (if not all) of the money you pay for higher-priced posters, plus you can "show off" expensive posters to non-collectors.

The original movie poster market is not going to collapse - unlike the market for Mondo commercial posters, which inevitably will tank - and prices will remain at least steady for the next 5-10 years.
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Post by: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 09:31:43 PM
Now you are talking about investing in posters. Something I know nothing about. I have bought about 300 posters now and sold zero.

So I am out.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
Quote from: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 09:31:43 PM
Now you are talking about investing in posters. Something I know nothing about. I have bought about 300 posters now and sold zero.

So I am out.

As has been said many times on this forum, it's foolish to "invest" in movie posters.  It's a mature hobby and realistically you're very like to lose money overall.  If I sold my collection today, I would be very lucky to recover 50% of my cash outlay.  If I had been smarter and bought fewer expensive posters instead of endless cheap posters, I could maybe recover 75%.
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Post by: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 09:53:54 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
As has been said many times on this forum, it's foolish to "invest" in movie posters.  It's a mature hobby and realistically you're very like to lose money overall.  If I sold my collection today, I would be very lucky to recover 50% of my cash outlay.  If I had been smarter and bought fewer expensive posters instead of endless cheap posters, I could maybe recover 75%.

True. You would have been better off investing in Greece.  :P

I am going to post this in the walls section but it seems funnier to me here. My latest " investment". One Peak Trek survived Comrade Zorba's latest frame purge.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Owy-85mRvFg/UANyk0JIOtI/AAAAAAAAE3A/gPFT23nUDyI/s1280/20120715_202731.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2012, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Zorba on July 15, 2012, 09:31:43 PM
Now you are talking about investing in posters. Something I know nothing about. I have bought about 300 posters now and sold zero.

So I am out.

Zorba- you are the kind of collector that is genuine. You buy what you like and what makes you happy. You arent caught up in the whole "must have" idea that suggests that everyone should have certain posters in their collection, whether they like them or not.

You have some really nice pieces, as you have shown.

You're on the right path and have been from the start.  cheers
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Post by: Neo on July 15, 2012, 09:58:51 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 15, 2012, 09:54:32 PM

You're on the right path and have been from the start.  cheers


Agreed. 

The TDKR one sheets look excellent.  thumbup
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Post by: brude on July 15, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
Very nice, Z.  thumbup
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Post by: CSM on July 15, 2012, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: Freefall on July 15, 2012, 08:38:25 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2634300

This is the one I am most excited about!

Who knows how much this will go for?!?!? 200? 300? 500?!?

 :P

I hope it sets a new record at $560!
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Post by: Ari on July 15, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
I gavelsniped a bid of $666, so that should secure me a copy finally.
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Post by: CSM on July 15, 2012, 11:36:36 PM
I know nearly nothing about the Lucky Strikes Pulp Fiction one sheets but can someone explain why all three of those auction examples poster by Mel have differing dimensions!?
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Post by: CSM on July 15, 2012, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: Ari on July 15, 2012, 11:35:47 PM
I gavelsniped a bid of $666, so that should secure me a copy finally.

AND it will endear yourself to a certain Antichrist (coming to a town near you on Dec 21)
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Post by: Silhouette on July 16, 2012, 12:57:29 AM
Quote from: CSM on July 15, 2012, 11:34:42 PM
I hope it sets a new record at $560!

$559 to go...in with a big chance
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 16, 2012, 02:15:29 AM
Quote from: CSM on July 15, 2012, 11:36:36 PM
I know nearly nothing about the Lucky Strikes Pulp Fiction one sheets but can someone explain why all three of those auction examples poster by Mel have differing dimensions!?

because I think Bruce's 27x41 is incorrect, Heritage's 27x40 is rounding off and the fractional dimensions Heritage listing is correct. I'd have to measure my collection copy to be sure what the exact size is though.
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Post by: jayn_j on July 16, 2012, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 15, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
But it's actually much smarter to buy higher-priced original movie posters than endless $20 posters (plus $8 to ship). The cheap posters will be a total loss whereas you can recover most (if not all) of the money you pay for higher-priced posters, plus you can "show off" expensive posters to non-collectors.

The original movie poster market is not going to collapse - unlike the market for Mondo commercial posters, which inevitably will tank - and prices will remain at least steady for the next 5-10 years.

I agree on the not invest part, but consider the following.

Most $20 posters are worth $5 in 5 years, but every couple of years there is one that skyrockets and starts selling for that $1500.  So, if you buy 100 modern posters for $20/ea and are careful in your selections, one may be worth $1500 in 5 years, while the rest are worth $5.  That means you spent $2k and realized....  $1500 + 99*5 or $1995.  Lost $5 on the deal, but you have a big pile of crap posters to show for it :)
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Post by: CJ138 on July 20, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
I just had to post this....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TALES-FROM-THE-CRYPT-Complete-EC-Library-4-vol-HD-set-by-Russ-Cochran-1981-/190703677852?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c66d3319c
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Post by: erik1925 on July 20, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on July 20, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
I just had to post this....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TALES-FROM-THE-CRYPT-Complete-EC-Library-4-vol-HD-set-by-Russ-Cochran-1981-/190703677852?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c66d3319c


And to entice all bidders.. you gotta love the last line of her description:


"XO PS – ALL BIDDERS still receive a FREE link to ALL my previous sexy eBay auction pics! YUM!"  8)

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Post by: brude on July 20, 2012, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on July 20, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
I just had to post this....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TALES-FROM-THE-CRYPT-Complete-EC-Library-4-vol-HD-set-by-Russ-Cochran-1981-/190703677852?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2c66d3319c


You're a good man, Conor.
Did you see his other listings?
Seems she keeps abreast of all the collectibles...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/zendocowboy/m.html?hash=item2c66d3319c&item=190703677852&pt=US_Comic_Books&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/zendocowboy/m.html?hash=item2c66d3319c&item=190703677852&pt=US_Comic_Books&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 20, 2012, 11:26:05 PM
I still have all my original sets. too bad they're boxed up.. I can't even read them!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 24, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
Anybody going to bid in the Heritage Sig Auction tomorrow and Thurs? I may bid on one of the higher-profile posters, depending on my sanity level tomorrow :)
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Post by: Louie D. on July 24, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
There are a couple of things I am DYING to get but no $$$$$$  :-[
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Post by: Zorba on July 24, 2012, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on July 24, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
There are a couple of things I am DYING to get but no $$$$$$  :-[

Yep.

Watch list is full but the pockets are empty.
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Post by: Bruce on July 24, 2012, 06:51:05 PM
We may have the answer for you financially challenged collectors. Our Fall Mini Major auction will include items for even the lightest of wallets.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/20120725_fall2012mmpreview_homepage_logo.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on July 24, 2012, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 24, 2012, 11:27:15 AM
I only post stuff about my auctions in the for sale or dealer's forum areas, so I should never be promoting my auctions to people who don't want to see those posts.

Need to add this thread to that list



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Post by: Bruce on July 24, 2012, 07:36:37 PM
I KNEW someone would post that! But in fairness, this IS my thread (I started it).
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 24, 2012, 08:18:09 PM
The Star Wars posters are blowing past their high estimates, probably because they're in such superb condition. They're from the "late" John L. Williams.  Sadly, his heirs wasted little time cashing them in....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Her.jpg)
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Post by: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 24, 2012, 08:18:09 PM
The Star Wars posters are blowing past their high estimates, probably because they're in such superb condition. They're from the "late" John L. Williams.  Sadly, his heirs wasted little time cashing them in....

Yup, crazy. My dreams of scooping up a bunch of these has gone up in smoke.

The most ridiculous one is the Style A 1SH. It's going for twice market value, and it hasn't even gone to live bidding yet.
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Post by: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:17:17 PM
Yup, crazy. My dreams of scooping up a bunch of these has gone up in smoke.

The most ridiculous one is the Style A 1SH. It's going for twice market value, and it hasn't even gone to live bidding yet.

Market value just moved!!
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Post by: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
Market value just moved!!

Hah. Price anomalies due to idiot bidders doesn't necessarily change market value ;).

On the bright side, maybe this will be an incentive for others to dust off their examples and sell them too, which will most likely go for much less :D.
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Post by: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:25:29 PM
Hah. Price anomalies due to idiot bidders doesn't necessarily change market value ;).

On the bright side, maybe this will be an incentive for others to dust off their examples and sell them too, which will most likely go for much less :D.

We live in hope!  8)
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Post by: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:34:37 PM
If any posters were "safe investments", it would have to be SW. I can't see them going down. There's just too much of a wide audience / following.

Enki, get your credit card ready! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)
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Post by: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
Quote from: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:34:37 PM
If any posters were "safe investments", it would have to be SW. I can't see them going down. There's just too much of a wide audience / following.

Enki, get your credit card ready! (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif)

I need to remember to contact HA tomorrow morning to verify their CC policy. According to their website, they don't accept them, but many people here said they do. I want to confirm before bidding :).

There were numerous ones I was watching, and last night they were sitting right around the low end of the "average" prior selling prices, so I was hoping to get 2-3 for a moderate price. But tonight they just jumped to crazy levels. I wanted the Birthday, but assuming I could actually get it for the next bid amount, that would be $2629 (inc fees). That's $400+ more then the top prior price of a similar example and condition, with the average being $1500-2200. Not gonna happen. The Chaykin is another nice one, and one I need, but it too is over average prices (though just slightly). It's signed, which MIGHT make it more valuable, but that's not a big deal for me.

There are a few other ones I might pull the trigger on that are reasonable, but who knows what will happen between now and tomorrow. Also, I was hoping to pick up a more rare poster that I can't find multiple times a year.

That Concert poster is calling me..... The Banner would also look awesome in my office.....

Better call my bank.
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Post by: ozcinemagic on July 24, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: enki on July 24, 2012, 09:40:20 PM
I need to remember to contact HA tomorrow morning to verify their CC policy. According to their website, they don't accept them, but many people here said they do. I want to confirm before bidding :).

That Concert poster is calling me..... The Banner would also look awesome in my office.....

Better call my bank.

hehe ...
HA tends to get the big money in the Sig auctions, so a competitive place to buy. I have paid with CC, but it was years ago.
Got all my Aus SW tucked away nice and safe!
I was 9 when the orig was released here in Aust. I remember kids going back 5 & 6 times to see it. It was big then, and kept growing!  :D
Good stuff to collect.
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Post by: Zorba on July 24, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
Whats with the SW cake? I was thinking love of the fans and rarity combined so I looked but if it is so rare how did Heritage sell five last year? Does someone have a stack? Lucas?  :D

Prices are rising on the popular and SW looks to be in big demand.
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Post by: enki on July 24, 2012, 10:51:32 PM
On a related note, and pardon my possible ignorance, but who exactly was John L. Williams? I know who John Williams is, but that's obviously not the same person. HA seems to make a big deal about this being from the guy's collection. I tried doing some Google research, but wasn't able to turn anything up.

Did anyone here know him? Was he really a "legendary" SW poster collector?
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Post by: Bruce on July 24, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
He was a very nice man who was unrelated to the composer. He spent much time tracking down great condition examples and then getting them signed.

He had started auctioning his collection through us, and then he passed away. I had talked to him several times on the phone and he told me about getting his posters.
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Post by: enki on July 24, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 24, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
He was a very nice man who was unrelated to the composer. He spent much time tracking down great condition examples and then getting them signed.

He had started auctioning his collection through us, and then he passed away. I had talked to him several times on the phone and he told me about getting his posters.

Are some of his posters in your upcoming Star Wars auction (that you postponed due to the HA one)?
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 09:17:55 AM
So I called HA and confirmed that they will accept credit card, but only for auctions where the INVOICE total is <$2500. Anything more than that, and it's cash/check/wire/moneyorder only. And in this case, both days of auctions would be put on one invoice.

On the bright side, I keep getting all these balance transfer checks in the mail at least twice a week (not exaggerating) from Citibank with 0% for 2 years. While they've always been shredded and thrown away, now might be a time to use one of them  8).
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af)
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Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af)

 :o

I change my mind. Compared to that the Star Wars Cake is very under priced.

0 feedback bidding war. Fake bidders. Is that a real poster even?
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
What is wrong with some people.....

I'm finding the same on the Bay, there seems to be a few bidders with small feedbacks, who are bidding Stupid prices... As though they were in a rush to get a nice collection at any cost....

There's a name for those people.......Pilocks.
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Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 11:41:47 AM


There's a name for those people.......Pilocks.

That fits nicely.  8)
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
What pleases me most is that I got mine a couple days ago for $15.

Ah, if only I was a seller, I'd be rich.

T
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Would you really want to be Rich.... ;)
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Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
What pleases me most is that I got mine a couple days ago for $15.

Ah, if only I was a seller, I'd be rich.

T

So it is a real poster.

I thought you were already rich.  :P

Quote from: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Would you really want to be Rich.... ;)

 ;D
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 11:50:25 AM
If I was a Seller I'd be Bruce,    He's a T1000 selling Machine.. ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
So it is a real poster.

I thought you were already rich.  :P

 ;D

Yes it is.  The Imax version.

No I'm not.
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Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:51:25 AM
Yes it is.  The Imax version.

No I'm not.

I think everyone with more than me is rich  :D
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
I'm surrounded by people who live in $3 mil + houses, so everything is relative.

T
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 12:06:38 PM
Ahh, that's good to know, my idea your a Millionaire Playboy still holds up... ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 12:18:40 PM
Well, I'm married, so I'm not a playboy.  But then again, I'm French.
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 12:20:08 PM
I think of it more as your job.... :D
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Post by: Bruce on July 25, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: enki on July 24, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
Are some of his posters in your upcoming Star Wars auction (that you postponed due to the HA one)?

Nope. It is a very depressing story on why his posters are not in my auction. Suffice it to say that if you have a desire to have your collection auctioned in a certain way after you pass on, LEAVE IT IN WRITING!

But if those wacky bidders don't reneg and pay those prices, then it will work out for his heirs, who are also very nice people and that is what really counts. Of course it is virtually a certainty that some fair number of bidders think that "From the collection of the late John L. Williams, noted Star Wars collector" means that the poster was owned by the composer, which might make them worth more in their eyes.

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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 25, 2012, 01:11:52 PM
Nope. It is a very depressing story on why his posters are not in my auction. Suffice it to say that if you have a desire to have your collection auctioned in a certain way after you pass on, LEAVE IT IN WRITING!

But if those wacky bidders don't reneg and pay those prices, then it will work out for his heirs, who are also very nice people and that is what really counts. Of course it is virtually a certainty that some fair number of bidders think that "From the collection of the late John L. Williams, noted Star Wars collector" means that the poster was owned by the composer, which might make them worth more in their eyes.



It's a shame when your heirs don't respect your wishes, written or otherwise.

And I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.
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Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
I do hope none of you New guys are bidding on this re-pro.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320948163138?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_587wt_1186


His Thunderball re-pro is going for even more, you have been warned... nono
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Post by: Bruce on July 25, 2012, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 01:38:36 PM
It's a shame when your heirs don't respect your wishes, written or otherwise.

And I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.

When Thierry is old and sick (many decades from now), he should change his name to "Steven T. Spielberg", and then after he passes his Spielberg collection will auction for a fortune!
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Post by: stewart boyle on July 25, 2012, 02:25:39 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
I'm surrounded by people who live in $3 mil + houses, so everything is relative.

T
Pff,bloody paupers how does one cope. lol

Stew
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af)

loaded with Zero FB bidders. Seller is probably trying to get his posters over-valued so he can sell trhem at other over-values
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Post by: holiday on July 25, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 25, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
I do hope none of you New guys are bidding on this re-pro.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320948163138?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_587wt_1186


His Thunderball re-pro is going for even more, you have been warned... nono

I'm pleased that the seller does note that he does not guaranty that it's original.  That's enough to put anyone on notice.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 04:36:22 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 01:38:36 PM
I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.

I fail to understand how including the real name of the former owner - in other words, telling the truth, the truth, and nothing but the truth - can possibly be viewed as being dishonest.

the exact quote is "From the collection of late John L. Williams. Noted Star Wars collector"

John Williams the composer is still alive, and he is not known as a Star wars collector. If someone looks at the Heritage statement and sees something wrong, I suggest you need to consider how you look at the written word. Also, on page 9 of the catalog, Heritage has a small write-up concerning John L.

this is just another case of mistaken perception
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 04:36:22 PM
I fail to understand how including the real name of the former owner - in other words, telling the truth, the truth, and nothing but the truth - can possibly be viewed as being dishonest.

the exact quote is "From the collection of late John L. Williams. Noted Star Wars collector"

John Williams the composer is still alive, and he is not known as a Star wars collector. If someone looks at the Heritage statement and sees something wrong, I suggest you need to consider how you look at the written word. Also, on page 9 of the catalog, Heritage has a small write-up concerning John L.

this is just another case of mistaken perception

No one said that it wasn't the truth. What Bruce said was that many bidders might be confused between the two. Which, based on some of these prices so far, is certainly plausible. I responded back agreeing with his assumption, and further mentioned that I wouldn't be surprised if someone at HA made sure they mentioned the prior owners name out of hopes that it would encourage that way of thinking.

I've never seen HA advertise who the prior owner was - do they do that often/ever? Also, how notable was this John L. Williams? Bruce knew him, but does anyone else? If he isn't "famous", even in the poster collecting world, what difference does it make that he used to own the poster. His posters weren't even used for the SW Poster Book - something that COULD legitimately add value to the poster. The whole purpose of putting that line in every one of those auctions, whether the intention was completely honorable or not, was to increase the price. Otherwise, why would they have mentioned it. So I ask this - assuming no one at HA made the connection between the similar names, what benefit does "John L. Williams" have to the quality of the poster? He doesn't even show up in a Google search.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 04:52:35 PM
Enki, there are other collections noted within this catalog, including the Wade Williams collection. It is a very common practice and I have no doubt Bruce does it also.

Considering the write-up in the catalog, there just isn't a way to confuse the two. They've doen as much as anyone could do other than also note in capital letters: "JOHN L. WILLIAMS THE COLLECTOR IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH JOHN WILLIAMS THE COMPOSER. HE IS ALSO NOT TO BE CIONFUSED WITH ANY OTHER JOHN WILLIAMS, PAST PRESENT OR FUTURE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT AT SOME POINT DECIDE TO COLLECT STAR WARS POSTERS OR COMPOSE MUSIC FOR STAR WARS MOVIES."
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Post by: marklawd on July 25, 2012, 04:55:26 PM
I would imagine Heritage are simply respecting the wishes of the consignors by publicly acknowledging the source of the collection rather than adopting a bizarre marketing technique.

Mark  
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
they have previously noted from the collection of Kirk Hammett & from the collection of Nic Cage
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Post by: Bruce on July 25, 2012, 06:24:38 PM
Nobody in the world knows THIS John Williams. EVERYONE knows the famous celebs they have mentioned.

There is a guy named Bruce Herschensohn. He ran for Senator in California, and had a radio talk show for years. He is around 20 years older than me.

Yet every week I get one or two messages from people thinking I am him. They miss the major spelling differences and all the rest.

But NO ONE could mistake one John Williams for another John Williams, especially when one is a famous composer who millions of people ONLY know as the composer of Star Wars music, and this is a collection with great Star Wars posters.

I am wrong again!
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 06:35:19 PM
Well.. I just won a poster.

:D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2012, 06:36:35 PM
people will confuse anyone with anyone at any time. a minute's research generally solves that issue. A note in the Heritage catalog explaining who John L. Williams was solves that issue. Anyone insinuating that Heritage is doing something nefarious with what they printed in their catalog is off-base & looking to pick a fight with strawman arguments
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
(http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F4%2F4%2F8%2F8448219%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

 woohoo
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
OMG(!*@(!*@ THIS IS SUCH UTTER BULLSHIT. Now HA is saying my bid wasn't recognized even though it said I was the winner of the poster when the auction closed.

I'm on the phone with them right now to try and find out what happened. I don't believe this.
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Post by: ddilts399 on July 25, 2012, 07:27:25 PM
ah yes, the infamous R2 double D's poster  ;)
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
Whew. Ok, so we DID win it.

Apparently, long story short, someone screwed up on the floor and entered in the wrong bidder number. Both my wife and I called HA (I called Dallas HQ, my wife called Beverly Hills). I got the run around, but finally made it to a supervisor who said he would look into it in the morning. The CSR was saying that neither of my bids were recognized, and when I started inquiring about how that was possible since the website clearly said I won, she didn't have much for me.

My wife fortunately pulled a manager off the floor who looked into it, and saw that it was a typographical error that "would have been caught anyway", but he manually fixed it, and we are now the winner of record.

It was a rough last half hour here....

So now, I can go back to my woohoo
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 25, 2012, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 07:32:41 PM
Whew. Ok, so we DID win it.

It was a rough last half hour here....

So now, I can go back to my woohoo

Congrats, I'm sure the "late John L. Williams" would be happy his prize poster was won by such an enthusiastic Star Wars collector!  

I'd to know the story with the sig.  Lucas rarely signs anything.  How did he get it?  Perhaps you could contact his family....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/0-APF2/Star%20Wars%20Concert.jpeg)
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 08:10:33 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 25, 2012, 07:52:55 PM
Congrats, I'm sure the "late John L. Williams" would be happy his prize poster was won by such an enthusiastic Star Wars collector!  

I'd to know the story with the sig.  Lucas rarely signs anything.  How did he get it?  Perhaps you could contact his family....


Thanks! Good idea, that would be an interesting story to hear.

Bruce, since you mentioned that you knew John and his family, do you think you could see if they would be willing to talk about it (or with me)?

Normally, I'm not a real 'signature' collector, and this one is so simple that I would normally be concerned. But I did some prior research and confirmed that's how George Lucas signed things (recently), plus it's coming from a notable collector and through a reputable auction house, so there is enough there to verify it's authenticity.

How rare is it for Lucas to sign things? Is he one of those people who is against it in general?

I'm really excited I got it. I did not originally plan on going for such a high priced item. I've been looking forward to this auction for months, waiting to pick up a couple good SW items. But when all the other ones I was looking at (Birthday, Chaykin, etc.) started skyrocketing last night to (IMHO) crazy prices, I figured I might as well go big. :D Plus, these are very rare to see at auction, so who knows when I would get another chance.  I think I did fairly well price wise. I wouldn't have bid any more than what I won it for, and I had assumed it would have gone for somewhere in the estimate range ($5-8k), especially since an unsigned one went for $6k a while ago.

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 25, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 08:10:33 PM
Thanks! Good idea, that would be an interesting story to hear.

Bruce, since you mentioned that you knew John and his family, do you think you could see if they would be willing to talk about it (or with me)?

Normally, I'm not a real 'signature' collector, and this one is so simple that I would normally be concerned. But I did some prior research and confirmed that's how George Lucas signed things (recently), plus it's coming from a notable collector and through a reputable auction house, so there is enough there to verify it's authenticity.

How rare is it for Lucas to sign things? Is he one of those people who is against it in general?.

The bio on page 99 of the catalog says "Big John" went to "countless" sci-fi conventions and had "countless encounters with cast and crew" over a 35 year collecting career.
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Post by: Zorba on July 25, 2012, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 06:45:56 PM
(http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F4%2F4%2F8%2F8448219%5D%2Csizedata%5B220x350%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

 woohoo

Gratz!
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
So question... Obviously this is the most expensive poster that I own (Wife: "And will ever own"), and want to make sure that I can present it properly and safely, while ensuring it's condition is preserved. I plan on framing it and putting it in my office. In the past, for all my other posters, I bought a frame from Hollywood Poster Frames, getting the archival backing and the UV plexiglass. I simply slid them into the frame, and they were held loose between the backing and the plexi. Is that the best thing I can do for this poster, or should I look at getting it professionally matted/framed/etc.? I want to make sure it's stored the best way possible, so was hoping for any "best practices" feedback. Thanks.
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on July 25, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
Why not just give Sue a call directly and discuss with her?  I'm sure she'd be able to give you all your options.
She was a great help for me here in Australia when I was trying to work out what to do with mine in terms of asking the right questions of framers...
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Post by: enki on July 25, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on July 25, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
Why not just give Sue a call directly and discuss with her?  I'm sure she'd be able to give you all your options.
She was a great help for me here in Australia when I was trying to work out what to do with mine in terms of asking the right questions of framers...

True, but I figured that there is a great repository of information/knowledge here too :D.
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Post by: Silhouette on July 25, 2012, 11:47:38 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
True, but I figured that there is a great repository of information/knowledge here too :D.

Congrats - great score, it will certainly be a discussion piece wherever you hang it.

Which brings us to framing...here's my tuppence worth:

Let your wife choose the frame, she will want it to suit the style of the house, that way, considering what you've spent, she'll still be on your side. Trust me, now you've spent big bucks you need here on your side for a while longer... ;)

Absolutely take it to a professional framer, conservation mats, the right glass (non reflective or museum grade, dependent on budget), all the rest you probably know about. Given what you've spent so far, don't be surprised when you have to spend as much as another $500+ on getting it framed properly with the right materials (now you see why you need to let your wife choose!).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 12:03:02 AM
as a former gallery owner, I can tell you there is no difference between a $100 Hollywood Poster Frames frame and a $500 dollar archival frame from an art store.

I also don't believe that because something is expensive, it needs an expensive frame

I have $200-300 posters in Sue's frames, and I have $5000-$10,000 posters in Sue frames
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Post by: Ari on July 26, 2012, 12:04:17 AM
Find a good framer who likes posters, thats how I got my frames, Frames for (movie) Paper.
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Post by: wonka on July 26, 2012, 01:00:38 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 12:03:02 AM
as a former gallery owner, I can tell you there is no difference between a $100 Hollywood Poster Frames frame and a $500 dollar archival frame from an art store.

LOLz
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 02:59:39 AM
oh Ben, you're right.. I made a mistake and it is funny.. There is a difference between a $100 Hollywood Poster Frames frame and a $500 dollar archival frame from an art store.......

$400

other than THAT, there is no difference

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Post by: Silhouette on July 26, 2012, 04:14:10 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 12:03:02 AM
as a former gallery owner, I can tell you there is no difference between a $100 Hollywood Poster Frames frame and a $500 dollar archival frame from an art store. I also don't believe that because something is expensive, it needs an expensive frame. I have $200-300 posters in Sue's frames, and I have $5000-$10,000 posters in Sue frames


No Difference? That's horse twaddle and being a former gallery owner has nothing to do with it.

Let's be clear, I was not denigrating Sue business or product (and I have bought frames from her) and nor I do not know her entire product range) but I understand she offers just four variations of low-profile frames (I guess all metal of some sort) in just 8 colour variations. I am not sure but I believe she does not offer wooden variations either of which their are thousands etc etc in the world to choose from (I freakn know because I have watched my wife go through them) and nor does she offer a framing service as opposed to getting a professional framer to do it.

Also I am married, Enki is married and I was giving some tongue in cheek advice about the marital side of the argument since he just had the evil eye over his purchase.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 05:26:07 AM
from an archival standpoint David, what Sue offers for approximately $100 is the same quality as what some art framer will offer you in 99.9% of all framing shops. Sue uses the same acid-free material, the same backings etc. No she does not do ornate gold frames that your wife will focus on, forgetting what the poster is worth, because the frame goes with the couch and china cabinet
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Post by: jayn_j on July 26, 2012, 07:30:34 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 26, 2012, 04:14:10 AM
nor does she offer a framing service as opposed to getting a professional framer to do it.

Actually, Sue has provided a framing service for a couple of my more complicated projects.  She just doesn't advertise it.
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Post by: Tob on July 26, 2012, 07:47:01 AM
Museum glass is worth spending the extra on for special pieces IMO. I have a couple of prints framed up using TruVue Museum glass and the anti-reflection thing is pretty amazing...like there's no glass at all. Quite pricey though...I'd recommend finding a decent local archival framer and seeing some examples.

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Post by: enki on July 26, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
Thanks for all the feedback everyone!

My intention was not to start a debate about the pros and cons of one framer/store over another. To clarify, I was looking for some feedback about methods of proper storage. For example, is simply placing the poster in the frame (loose) OK, which is what I currently do, or would it be better to mount it on a border mat with archival tape to prevent the edges (specifically the bottom) from being rested on?
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Post by: oldposterho on July 26, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
Sue does indeed do custom framing at a deep discount, all my "keepers" are done with custom wooden frames.  The downside is it's better to be there to make your selection but I've also left it up to her and been very pleased with the results.  I prefer mattes and UV non-glare plexi and would never attach a poster with any tape or such.  The mattes hold mine down.  Also have the cheapos and just toss the poster in and never had any problems.

--Peter
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Post by: crowzilla on July 26, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
I made the mistake of using glass in my frames one time when I first started collecting.
Won't do that again.
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Post by: jayn_j on July 26, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 26, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
I made the mistake of using glass in my frames one time when I first started collecting.
Won't do that again.


+1.  I initially used glass in 8 frames.  3 moves later, I am down to 3.  The rest have broken in the moves or during poster replacement.  Glass is Expensive, heavy, retains heat and provides no better UV protection.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 01:19:41 PM
the worst problem with glass framing is - as jay said - it retains heat.. But he didn't go far enough - it transfers heat to the paper & will eventually degrade the paper quality. Use plexi glass
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Post by: wonka on July 26, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Yeah, all those major art museums, institutions, the Smithsonian, etc...obviously don't know what they are doing.

They should switch out all that glass with plexi, stat!
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Post by: enki on July 26, 2012, 02:33:38 PM
But don't those museums, etc. that use glass also have specially designed climate/humidity/etc. control systems to ensure that everything inside the frame is kept in optimum and static conditions?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 02:52:44 PM
Ben, absolutely glass shouldn't be used except for special framing that allows for heat dump.

I used to have my Kong 1952R framed under glass. For 20 years. The result was the paper brittled and it's one of just 5 pieces I have sent out for restoration in my life. Glass is misery for paper
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Post by: Silhouette on July 26, 2012, 03:18:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 05:26:07 AM
No she does not do ornate gold frames that your wife will focus on, forgetting what the poster is worth, because the frame goes with the couch and china cabinet

And that was my point if you re-read my post, simply one of decor and when (anyone's wife) is involved that costs money. Every day.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
my point however David was concerning archival quality.. 
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Post by: Silhouette on July 26, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
my point however David was concerning archival quality..  

Then Rich, it seems we both have a point which we have now since made and it seems we were both right.

(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo9/theneat_photos/flk03.jpg)

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Post by: enki on July 26, 2012, 03:25:29 PM
So I just spoke to Sue, and we talked about what was best. She agreed that the standard archival or deluxe frame cut to the exact size would be perfectly fine for long term archival storage and presentation. She also said that matting would not be needed or advised, and that she has framed $300k pieces using the standard method (with tension clips) and the posters have been fine. So I guess I will go with that.

I do need to make sure I get the correct sizing though. The poster is supposedly 24x37, but I need to confirm that this is the exact measurements. I would like to get the frame ordered now so that it was ready when I receive my poster, but I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. I'll see if I can dig up some more info on the poster in the mean time (measurement wise).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 03:31:31 PM
David, I'll let you sit in the corner alone.. I know another corner where there is a female kitty.

Enki.. email Grey and I'm certain they can give you exact measurements for the poster.
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Post by: Silhouette on July 26, 2012, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 03:31:31 PM
I know another corner where there is a female kitty.

Rich, I do not need to know that the Viagra has kicked in...
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Post by: Threenero on July 26, 2012, 04:29:25 PM
anyone else see this auction?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230818050577?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230818050577?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)

i want his drawers  :-[
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
in his listing, he has a DS Reservoir Dogs poster

I've never seen a DS on this title and I'm guessing it is a video poster
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Post by: eatbrie on July 26, 2012, 05:20:30 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
What pleases me most is that I got mine a couple days ago for $15.

FYI: I have received 7 emails from forum members asking me to get them a Dark Knight Imax poster.  I didn't buy my poster on Ebay, and the people I bought it from only had one left, which I took. 

So no, I cannot.  Sorry.

T
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Post by: Tob on July 26, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 05:06:15 PM
in his listing, he has a DS Reservoir Dogs poster

I've never seen a DS on this title and I'm guessing it is a video poster

It's a quad, so DS is legit for Reservoir Dogs, although it sounds as if it has been trimmed.
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Post by: Zorba on July 26, 2012, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: Tob on July 26, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
It's a quad, so DS is legit for Reservoir Dogs, although it sounds as if it has been trimmed.

Yes and yes the quad should be the full 40 x 30.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2012, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Tob on July 26, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
It's a quad, so DS is legit for Reservoir Dogs, although it sounds as if it has been trimmed.

I was just quick reading.. didn't think of quads
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Post by: velvet11 on July 28, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: enki on July 25, 2012, 08:10:33 PM
Thanks! Good idea, that would be an interesting story to hear.

Bruce, since you mentioned that you knew John and his family, do you think you could see if they would be willing to talk about it (or with me)?

Normally, I'm not a real 'signature' collector, and this one is so simple that I would normally be concerned. But I did some prior research and confirmed that's how George Lucas signed things (recently), plus it's coming from a notable collector and through a reputable auction house, so there is enough there to verify it's authenticity.

How rare is it for Lucas to sign things? Is he one of those people who is against it in general?

I'm really excited I got it. I did not originally plan on going for such a high priced item. I've been looking forward to this auction for months, waiting to pick up a couple good SW items. But when all the other ones I was looking at (Birthday, Chaykin, etc.) started skyrocketing last night to (IMHO) crazy prices, I figured I might as well go big. :D Plus, these are very rare to see at auction, so who knows when I would get another chance.  I think I did fairly well price wise. I wouldn't have bid any more than what I won it for, and I had assumed it would have gone for somewhere in the estimate range ($5-8k), especially since an unsigned one went for $6k a while ago.



I knew John, and while I don't know the specific story of the Lucas signature on this poster, I don't think you have anything to worry about. John knew Star Wars collectors and fans from all over, some of whom worked at or still work at Lucasfilm. It doesn't really surprise me that he managed to get this poster signed.

Lucas doesn't sign stuff too frequently, but he does sign things here and there. The last time I saw John was at the home of a mutual friend, and he had a birthday cake poster signed by Lucas hanging on his wall.

 ron
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Post by: paul waines on July 29, 2012, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: Threenero on July 26, 2012, 04:29:25 PM
anyone else see this auction?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230818050577?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230818050577?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)

i want his drawers  :-[


He's been trying to sell this lot for quite a while, he's in the U.K.   
Most of his posters are just modern rubbish, so he's never going to
get anywhere near that price.

Keep an eye out for draws, they do come up on the Bay for reasonable
prices. Like all bargains, it's a waiting game....
 
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Post by: Silhouette on July 29, 2012, 02:48:27 AM
Beautiful set of drawers came up today http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261074122636&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

I wouldn't pay that sort of money but they are nice. As always Melbourne has all the cool wooden ones...
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Post by: Ari on July 29, 2012, 03:26:40 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 29, 2012, 02:48:27 AM
Beautiful set of drawers came up today http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261074122636&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

As always Melbourne has all the cool wooden ones...

thats to match their personalities.  :P
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Post by: Threenero on July 29, 2012, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 29, 2012, 02:48:27 AM
Beautiful set of drawers came up today http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261074122636&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

I wouldn't pay that sort of money but they are nice. As always Melbourne has all the cool wooden ones...

OMG  :o
I'd kill for a set of drawers like those

The Irish ebay is a load of my arse
everything on it is either from england or carboot sale rejects.

I've even considered driving to scotland for that other set of drawers, even priced the ferry tickets
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Post by: Chop-Top on July 31, 2012, 08:08:10 PM
What the hell is wrong with some buyers? This same poster can be found regularly in Mint condition for $60 on Ebay:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2644902 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2644902)
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Post by: brude on August 01, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
Most of you might have already seen this, so I don't think I'll piss anyone off for outing this beauty from Move Poster Exchange.
1949 LB RR one sheet ends August 5. What a beauty, eh?

(http://c4941054.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/5798.jpg)

http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=3081 (http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=3081)

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Post by: Louie D. on August 01, 2012, 04:41:04 PM
Meh, it's a reissue.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 01, 2012, 04:49:33 PM
I never cared for that poster myself..
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Post by: Ari on August 01, 2012, 06:46:51 PM
Foolish people.
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 01, 2012, 09:42:13 PM
I'll take it noe one else bid now  ;D
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Post by: Silhouette on August 01, 2012, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: brude on August 01, 2012, 02:22:43 PM
Most of you might have already seen this, so I don't think I'll piss anyone off for outing this beauty from Move Poster Exchange.
1949 LB RR one sheet ends August 5. What a beauty, eh?

Most excellent film too.
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Post by: Louie D. on August 02, 2012, 12:24:59 AM
If you want to get a poster with freaks on it you can do no better than this:

(http://www.barewalls.com/i/c/394813_Siamese-Twins-Hilton-Sisters-Concert-Poster.jpg)

I saw a nice copy of this at Cinevent a few years back, must still be out there.
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Post by: brude on August 02, 2012, 12:52:53 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on August 01, 2012, 09:46:45 PM
Most excellent film too.

Hands down.

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/johnnywalks.gif) 
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Post by: Silhouette on August 02, 2012, 12:59:21 AM
Quote from: brude on August 02, 2012, 12:52:53 AM
Hands down.

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/johnnywalks.gif) 

Caterpillar Man (or whatever his name was)..now anyone who can roll their own cigarette, then light it without arms or legs should be allowed to smoke wherever and whenever he damn well pleases!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 02, 2012, 01:40:19 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on August 02, 2012, 12:59:21 AM
Caterpillar Man (or whatever his name was)..now anyone who can roll their own cigarette, then light it without arms or legs should be allowed to smoke wherever and whenever he damn well pleases!

Prince Ramadan and you're damned right
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Post by: brude on August 02, 2012, 08:16:29 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 02, 2012, 01:40:19 AM
Prince Ramadan and you're damned right

That would be Prince Randian, Rich.
Ramadan is an Islamic holiday.
 wynk

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lacrcgAc9i1qa2nz2o1_500.gif)
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Post by: Ari on August 02, 2012, 10:50:22 AM
I thought it was a Belgian holiday? Oh well.
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Post by: Bruce on August 03, 2012, 11:11:35 AM
Here's one for collectors of Aussie movies. We've had the one-sheet several times, but never before a half-sheet:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2655828 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2655828)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/half_wake_in_fright_retitled_HP00552_L.jpg)
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Post by: Tob on August 03, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
Great tagline on that poster!
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Post by: enki on August 03, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: Tob on August 03, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
Great tagline on that poster!

Yup. Basically validates my preconceptions of Australia. Beer (Fosters), drunken brawls, dust and sweat. Add in alligators, kangaroos and cane toads. I think that pretty much sums it up.
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Post by: Silhouette on August 03, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: enki on August 03, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
Yup. Basically validates my preconceptions of Australia. Beer (Fosters), drunken brawls, dust and sweat. Add in alligators, kangaroos and cane toads. I think that pretty much sums it up.

Four things you got wrong.

1. Crocodiles not Alligators.

2. Only tourists drink Fosters.

3. Please add Sheilas.

4. The order.
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Post by: crowzilla on August 03, 2012, 07:00:23 PM
Quote from: enki on August 03, 2012, 02:41:11 PM
Yup. Basically validates my preconceptions of Australia. Beer (Fosters), drunken brawls, dust and sweat. Add in alligators, kangaroos and cane toads. I think that pretty much sums it up.

You forgot to add these fine folks coloring your posters for ya.

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/children_drawing.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 03, 2012, 09:01:58 PM
hell, they were the designers!

Quote from: crowzilla on August 03, 2012, 07:00:23 PM
You forgot to add these fine folks coloring your posters for ya.

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/children_drawing.jpg)
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Post by: brude on August 04, 2012, 11:42:49 AM
NEWSFLASH: Australia hires new daybill design team,
led by Packy Derm.

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4953463750918227&pid=1.5)
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Post by: CSM on August 04, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: brude on August 04, 2012, 11:42:49 AM
NEWSFLASH: Australia hires new daybill design team,
led by Packy Derm.

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4953463750918227&pid=1.5)


I think those skills are too refined for daybill art
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 04, 2012, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 04, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
I think those skills are too refined for daybill art

Packy works at Richardson Studio
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Post by: paul waines on August 04, 2012, 03:34:55 PM
That maybe a bit racist Rich.... ;)
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Post by: Silhouette on August 04, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
Everyone's a critic...but not every critic knows what they are talking about... :P

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/pierre_brassau_monkey_artist/ (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/archive/permalink/pierre_brassau_monkey_artist/)

http://ticketsarasota.com/2011-12-17/section/nightlife/telescope-monkey-paintings-make-art-collectors-go-bananas/ (http://ticketsarasota.com/2011-12-17/section/nightlife/telescope-monkey-paintings-make-art-collectors-go-bananas/)

And then of course the USA has Jackson Pollock...art? Really?

http://www.cheapoilpainting.com/blogs/jackson-pollock/5009822-a-monkey-paints-like-pollock-also-a-lagrange-update (http://www.cheapoilpainting.com/blogs/jackson-pollock/5009822-a-monkey-paints-like-pollock-also-a-lagrange-update)

 :o  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 04, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
those monkey are more talented than alot of artists whose work I have sold in the past, although they do have a ways to catch up to the Frazetta paintings I've owned......
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Post by: crowzilla on August 05, 2012, 05:40:05 PM
I know it's just a "spur", but could this poster be any more suggestive?

(http://c4941750.r50.cf2.rackcdn.com/5700.jpg)

Just one of 100+ ending later tonight - check em all out!  :)

http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?list=weekly (http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?list=weekly)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 05, 2012, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 05, 2012, 05:40:05 PM
I know it's just a "spur", but could this poster be any more suggestive?

(http://c4941750.r50.cf2.rackcdn.com/5700.jpg)

Just one of 100+ ending later tonight - check em all out!  :)

http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?list=weekly (http://movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?list=weekly)

yes it could.. the spur could be curved upward!!
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Post by: brude on August 10, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180948208361&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180948208361&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STAR-WARS-Empire-Strikes-Back-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!rYE+uPw,u(1BQI3vstL4w~~60_57.JPG)

(http://dantaylorblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hanjob.gif)

Apologies if it is one of you guys.
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on August 11, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-AVAILABLE-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280940325747?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4169592b73 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATT-VERSION-ONLY-1-AVAILABLE-ZOMBIE-FLESH-EATERS-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-/280940325747?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4169592b73)

looks like Psycho Circus is putting these out folded as well. Has any one got one of these repro's ? whats the quality like?

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Post by: paul waines on August 11, 2012, 02:39:33 PM
Never seen one close-up as yet, but I'm still guessing that linen-backed one that sold for over £800 a while back, was one of these Backed....

And you can bet the chap who buys that for £20, will try selling it as Original at some point. I'm wondering if it's worth buying to do
a comparison with an Original...?
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on August 11, 2012, 03:06:18 PM
I emailed the chap and he knows full well that these will end up being passed up as originals.

It sort of pisses me off as he is knowingly selling this in the original quad section even if he says its a repro. I might have to get one too just do a like for like comparison

Paul
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Post by: eatbrie on August 11, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: brude on August 10, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
[(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/STAR-WARS-Empire-Strikes-Back-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqJ,!rYE+uPw,u(1BQI3vstL4w~~60_57.JPG)


I think this is absolutely ridiculous.  $200, maybe $300 seems more like it. 

I finally got mine as a gift from a fellow collector, but it will take some time before I have it in hand.  It is buried at the back of a storage unit.  I better be nice.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2012, 05:45:29 PM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on August 11, 2012, 03:06:18 PM
I emailed the chap and he knows full well that these will end up being passed up as originals.

It sort of pisses me off as he is knowingly selling this in the original quad section even if he says its a repro. I might have to get one too just do a like for like comparison

Paul

I think the worst part is the statement of repro, while not really buried, may not get read by every interested party
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Post by: CSM on August 11, 2012, 06:19:39 PM
Thierry, the market on those Aussie ESB one sheets had increased quite dramatically over the last little while. 

Yes - the seller IS asking to much but $200 to maybe $300 is too low right now (generally).

I just chalk it up to your cheapskate ways ;)
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Post by: ozcinemagic on August 11, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 11, 2012, 06:19:39 PM
Thierry, the market on those Aussie ESB one sheets had increased quite dramatically over the last little while. 

Yes - the seller IS asking to much but $200 to maybe $300 is too low right now (generally).

I just chalk it up to your cheapskate ways ;)

The guy with that ESB poster had / has a few of them, along with a lot of other nice titles like Mad Max & Bullitt. He keeps listing posters under different usernames on ebay, so prob gets a few negs.
I have a rolled ESB, which I reckon is worth about $750. The one listed, maybe $500ish. I think Matt bought one recently for around the $350 mark, but some condition issues from memory. You could probably pick up a daybill on ebay for $2-300 these days, but you'd be hard pressed to win a one sheet for that price.
One of the rarer Aus SW is the Jedi style A light sabre. Haven't seen one for sale in years. A case of if you see it - buy it!
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Post by: Matt on August 11, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Staple hole tears in the corners...Dario will fill those in, one day. wynk

(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/812/p4250003.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on August 12, 2012, 12:45:42 AM
This is my favorite of all the SW posters.
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Post by: guest4185 on August 12, 2012, 01:18:49 AM
I sold my only spare ESB Aussie one-0sheet for $500 and had two people chasing it.
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Post by: guest4185 on August 12, 2012, 01:20:13 AM
The seller does seem to have very high prices - $2000+ for Mad Max. I'd probably sell my sole copy at that price.
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Post by: Zorba on August 12, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Lucky Strike Pulp Fiction is up on emovie yet again.....

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2663384 \\

Seems to me that not three hours can go by without seeing a new one for sale.




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Post by: enki on August 12, 2012, 09:44:05 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 12, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Lucky Strike Pulp Fiction is up on emovie yet again.....

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2663384 \\

Seems to me that not three hours can go by without seeing a new one for sale.

 :o
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Post by: Zorba on August 12, 2012, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: enki on August 12, 2012, 09:44:05 PM
:o

Curiosity...I believe that it was recalled but how many got out before that recall ?  :D
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Post by: wonka on August 12, 2012, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 12, 2012, 12:45:42 AM
This is my favorite of all the SW posters.

It's good for sure, but I am a fan of the SW half sheet out of all the paper for the saga.
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Post by: ozcinemagic on August 13, 2012, 01:46:17 AM
Quote from: Rick on August 12, 2012, 01:20:13 AM
The seller does seem to have very high prices - $2000+ for Mad Max. I'd probably sell my sole copy at that price.

I'm not feeling $2K on that Max. The orange one maybe, but not purple.
And Aus Bullitt for $2300? Certainly don't see too many. Colours are a bit lacklustre, imo.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BULLITT-Vintage-Australian-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Steve-McQueen-/180948207342?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item2a215a86ee
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Post by: eatbrie on August 13, 2012, 03:56:01 AM
Quote from: Zorba on August 12, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Lucky Strike Pulp Fiction is up on emovie yet again.....

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2663384 \\

Seems to me that not three hours can go by without seeing a new one for sale.


Another fine example of a completely overpriced poster.  There are way too many posters out there to justify its price.  But hey, if people enjoy paying, let them.  I love watching.

T
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Post by: enki on August 13, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 13, 2012, 03:56:01 AM
Another fine example of a completely overpriced poster.  There are way too many posters out there to justify its price.  But hey, if people enjoy paying, let them.  I love watching.

T

That's what people keep saying about the Dark Knight "recalled" Joker poster, and yet the prices keep going up and up and up.
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Post by: Zorba on August 13, 2012, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: enki on August 13, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
That's what people keep saying about the Dark Knight "recalled" Joker poster, and yet the prices keep going up and up and up.

That one is a sadder example. That one was never recalled and they are not close to as "rare" as the Lucky Strike. They are common.

People want em. They buy the rare bullshit and there you have it. Not everyone reads this site or really researches what they buy.

Then there is the "I will never learn" clown. Like me. Posters are quite the emotional draw to most of us.  I have quite a few that I could have gotten for much less with a little patience. Impulse buys.

Lets face it...Movie posters are awesome!
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Post by: wonka on August 16, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: enki on August 13, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
That's what people keep saying about the Dark Knight "recalled" Joker poster, and yet the prices keep going up and up and up.

Really?

I thought that the few months following Heath's death these things spikes and have since leveled. The past few I have seen on the 'bay have found new homes for 50 bills, give or take.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 16, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 13, 2012, 09:10:23 PM
They are common.

Extremely common.  I probably own 5-10 of those Dark Knights.  And I'm not a seller.  So I can only imagine how many people like Dale are sitting on.

T
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 16, 2012, 03:13:12 PM
 :-[ I sold all mine back on original release. So I have my 7 keepers and thats it. I am not much of a holder, I dont have the room unfortunately.

I imagine there are a couple folks sitting on 50 or 100 still.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 16, 2012, 03:16:11 PM
Dale, do you keep 7 of everything?
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 16, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
I keep 2 flat, and 5 rolled of everything new I get in. The older stuff I may get, I only keep singles on unless I get a bunch, then I keep dupes there as well.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 16, 2012, 04:02:46 PM
So how many posters would you say you have now?

PS: Did you keep 7 of Fred Claus?
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Post by: enki on August 16, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: wonka on August 16, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Really?

I thought that the few months following Heath's death these things spikes and have since leveled. The past few I have seen on the 'bay have found new homes for 50 bills, give or take.

Really.

I don't know about eBay, but...
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/dark%2520knight/tag/teaser/country/U.S./type/1sh/archive.html

In the past 8 months:
201, 155, 250 (in G-VG condition no less!), 206, 175, 160, 230.
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 16, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
8907 unique styles inventoried in my own keepers, no dupes, lobbies count as 1 item regardless of how many in the set.

I have boxes I just shelved to go through as time allows, would imagine another 500 - 1000 or so in those.

With dupes, not sure, dont have a real good way to count that as part of the list is hard copy only due to a crash years ago.

And I have 14 Fred Claus, there were 2 styles  ;), but those 14 I count as 2 in my 8907 count if that makes any sense.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 16, 2012, 07:56:03 PM
you have 8907 different posters in other words with a vast majority of them having each 2 flat copies & 5 rolled copies
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Post by: ps. on August 20, 2012, 11:25:57 PM
while i'm sure this has been expounded on a million and a half times before, in what universe is this Fine condition?

(http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F7%2F1%2F2%2F8712286%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
(heritage, btw)
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Post by: crowzilla on August 20, 2012, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: ps. on August 20, 2012, 11:25:57 PM
while i'm sure this has been expounded on a million and a half times before, in what universe is this Fine condition?

Yet another example of why word conditions are passe.
Numbers and large photos are the way to go.
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Post by: Silhouette on August 20, 2012, 11:50:11 PM
Quote from: ps. on August 20, 2012, 11:25:57 PM
while i'm sure this has been expounded on a million and a half times before, in what universe is this Fine condition?
(heritage, btw)

Wow...that's bad, except of course Audrey is might fine
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Post by: Charlie on August 21, 2012, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 20, 2012, 11:30:56 PM
Yet another example of why word conditions are passe.
Numbers and large photos are the way to go.


Right but isn't there a number assigned to fine?  Like 6?

Why not just describe it?  Grading is stupid.
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Post by: crowzilla on August 21, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: Charlie on August 21, 2012, 10:28:48 AM
Right but isn't there a number assigned to fine?  Like 6?
Why not just describe it?  Grading is stupid.

Certainly there is a number assigned in the CGC system.

I'm just saying what if "Fine" is the lowest grade I use and I say "Fine" to describe my worst condition posters?
(example, I use Fine, Very Fine, Extra Fine, and Mint).

Grading is not stupid for people who worry about condition, but without a universally accepted grading system it can be stupid
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Post by: Charlie on August 21, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 21, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
Certainly there is a number assigned in the CGC system.

I'm just saying what if "Fine" is the lowest grade I use and I say "Fine" to describe my worst condition posters?
(example, I use Fine, Very Fine, Extra Fine, and Mint).

Grading is not stupid for people who worry about condition, but without a universally accepted grading system it can be stupid

Well I guess what I am trying to say is that assigning a number to something that can not be measured scientifically by instrument is a stupid concept.  There is literally no meaning behind either 'fine' or 6...

For example: In all situations; Do they mean that there are pin holes?  Do they mean that there are tears?  Does it mean half an inch of the right side is missing? 

No!  So in its simplest form grading is stupid because it doesn't convey enough information to your so called 'worriers of condition'.  Trust me if a collector is only using grading alone to make a decision they are pretty stupid as well... which is why your large images are key.  Also probably why no one complains.  Can you imagine if all you provided was numbers?  Essentially, grades have no absolute meaning in terms of condition... It is a qualitative measure based on unscientific means.  Really all it tells someone is that if two card were lined up side-by-side (from the same grader), hopefully, a 9 is better than a 6 and a 6 is better than a 4...  But you still have no true idea the condition of the item... 

If a dealer wanted to impress me, he would develop certain condition categories such as: 'pin holes', 'edge fraying', 'small tears', 'surface loss', 'paper loss', 'creases', 'fading', 'writing', etc... on top of a general qualitative grade so that I could toggle away all those with say 'paper loss'.  But dealers are too lazy for that and will continue to hide behind a large images and meaningless grades... 

Ideally, I like to think that a buyer should be able (in his mind) to pick up the poster move it around under light, turn it over, run his fingers on the surface and know exactly what he is getting.... You can get that from a great description - you will never get that type of information from a grade...

So... Grades are pretty much stupid and pointless.

 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2012, 02:34:14 PM
Charlie, do youthink my grading system is wrong? I do use a numerical system, though I do also describe defects that can't be seen in my super-large-and-clear-photos. I also have descriptions of my numerical system just below my grade estimate.. In my opinion, the large pic says more than any grading #
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Post by: holiday on August 21, 2012, 02:53:21 PM
The grading numbers give me a bearing or a way of comparing.  10 tells me its perfect, and I never see 10.  9 says its as good as it gets, in reality.  8 is a few dings.  7 is getting to dog territory.  6 and below is not collectable unless it's a super rare poster that I'm dying to find, and then I buy it knowing that it will be a constant thorn in my side until I can replace it. 
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Post by: Charlie on August 21, 2012, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2012, 02:34:14 PM
Charlie, do youthink my grading system is wrong? I do use a numerical system, though I do also describe defects that can't be seen in my super-large-and-clear-photos. I also have descriptions of my numerical system just below my grade estimate.. In my opinion, the large pic says more than any grading #

Rich, I don't think that any grading system is "wrong".  I just think it insufficient to be the only source of information.  Most dealers are not touting their grading system as the 'be all to end all' like Sean.  If you use grading as a way to assist buyers make an informed decision in addition to descriptions and images, then grading can have a place; but more simply as just a toggling mechanism. 

"Well in general I am not interested in anything less than a 7 unless it's rare..."  "Show me everything 'Good to Very Good' or 7 and above.."

What cracks me up about numbers is: What is the amount of significance between say a '6' and a '7'... Sometimes a poster that looks like a '9' is a '6' because a corner is missing...  So what about the 'worrier of condition' is not so worried about a 1/4" piece of the corner missing that he can cover with matting when framed?  So now he toggled away that '9'...

Buyers use several different packages of information to make a decision and grading is just not that big an influence in my book.  If there is a great description then you are no longer worried about what the grade means...  It would be as simple as to say "new, used, well used, you don't want this one" just so you can toggle...  Same as 'pin holes', 'edge fraying', 'small tears', 'surface loss', 'paper loss', 'creases', 'fading', 'writing', etc...

But to claim that a 'number grade' is where it is at, just illustrates that some would rather force a grading system down your throat simply because it makes listing posters easier.

To me the information package priority would be:

Title
Descriptors to Toggle  (let's say I don't want any faded colors - done! without grade)
Grade to Toggle (Let's say generally I don't want any <4's or 'Fair' or worse - done!)
Actual Detailed Description of Flaws
Image to Confirm
Bid/Buy

Result less controversy on condition and reduced returns...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
a poster that looks like 9 but has a corner off is a 6 Charlie.. maybe a 5/6.. what's your point??

no one grades the same (something we experienced dealers know) and is only meant to be a guide for the buyer. It is not meant to be a gospel
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Post by: Charlie on August 21, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
a poster that looks like 9 but has a corner off is a 6 Charlie.. maybe a 5/6.. what's your point??

no one grades the same (something we experienced dealers know) and is only meant to be a guide for the buyer.

Great point! That is exactly my point... Just as sellers don't grade the same, condition snobs have varying level of concerns.  My point was that a six by you, based on the corner missing may still be a 9 to a buyer. And if the 'guide' is the only thing used then grading as a whole has failed; as it always has.

This is even further evidence why grading has limited use. 

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
It is not meant to be a gospel

But if that is all that is given, it's the only thing to interpret...   

If you say "approximately 1/4" of the lower right corner is missing" that is universal... Or if you toggle absolute condition issues such as "paper loss", "missing corner/corner damage" there is absolutely no confusion in this guidance...

With the wave of new competition in the market dealers should further focus on approaches to better define and sell their product. I would guarantee any dealer whom applied detailed descriptions, that they would capture additional market share.  If a dealer is willing to detail all the flaws, I can make no assumption on whether he is attempting to sell me something that it is not. As a whole I can trust that what I am buying is what I am getting.  Why do you think large food corporation spend so much time and money to make sure a cup of coffee in Vegas taste the same as it does in Houston...  Because if it didn't, could you guarantee how that cup of coffee would taste next time? If I knew I was going to get that same great cup of coffee why bother with another seller...  Now posters aren't exactly a commodity but you could make an argument that service can be... unless it isn't.
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Post by: crowzilla on August 21, 2012, 11:24:11 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 21, 2012, 02:53:21 PM
The grading numbers give me a bearing or a way of comparing. 

This is what it's all about. Words are useless as a way of comparing.  The original question asked in what universe was a particular item a "fine". My response was that if "fine" was the lowest word condition I use, then that is the universe where it could be a "fine".  Numbers are much more useful as a starting point for comparison.

An 8 should always be nicer than a 6 no matter what defects bother you more than others.  I have no idea if "fine" is supposed to be better than "excellent" or "very good", and for people who use English as their 2nd language (or 3rd, or who don't even use it) those words make even less sense, but a number gives everyone a good starting point.

I don't think anyone would argue that a more detailed description is best, but in my mind telling me something is an "8.5" gives me a much better mental image of an item than telling me it is "very good" and that is the more information we strive to attain as both buyer and seller.

Your cup of coffee example illustrates it great. Those companies want you to feel that no matter where you are when you order a large X, it has y ounces of blechh in it and tastes the same at every location. Same as the third-party grading services want you to feel like every time you purchase a 7.5, you know exactly what you will be getting no matter who you purchase it from.
If coffee company A sells a "large" and it has 9oz, but company B sells a "large" that has only 6oz, but is still larger than their medium, you would probably feel you were taken advantage of, but if company A sold a "9" and company B sold a "6", you would have a little more idea of what you were getting and could make a more informed purchase.

Will these 3rd party companies succeed? I don't know. 
I just think it would be nice if everyone could use the same terminology.

 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 22, 2012, 01:17:59 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 21, 2012, 11:24:11 PM
I just think it would be nice if everyone could use the same terminology.


there is some universal terminology that people use, but you'll find more of it in "Let it All Out"
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 22, 2012, 02:59:54 AM
Great post on an ongoing problem..I like Sean's comparison and agree that the precise condition of an item is still a difficult thing to navigate..fine vs. very fine doesn't lend much to exact condition defects such as pinholes within an image or just in the corners, is paper loss in the image or just the borders...

I also feel that packaging methods are even further behind in terms of standard ...I have personally offered to pay more to an unknown dealer/seller... Only to be assured of "professional methods" and receive damaged pieces..perhaps a grading system for packaging is not so far off!!
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Post by: Silhouette on August 23, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
We often refer to Queenslanders as Cowboys (not a term of endearment), here's one good reason why:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hobbit-Movie-Poster-/170898039466?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item27ca5122aa

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/WTF---wtf-shock-surprise-smiley-emoticon-000703-facebook.gif)

Judging by the carpet it is also possible it is actually the movie theatre owner...(or staff)
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 28, 2012, 11:42:47 AM
What am I missing here?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2673226
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Post by: CSM on August 28, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 28, 2012, 11:42:47 AM
What am I missing here?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2673226

Someone's going to be missing $274 ;)
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Post by: 50s on August 28, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
That buyer kpposters has placed many bids in the current clint/sw auction. Must be someone with more money than sense
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Post by: archie leach on August 28, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
And mediocre taste in film.
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Post by: Bruce on August 28, 2012, 06:09:31 PM
Hey, I loved Slap Shot!
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Post by: Charlie on August 28, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 28, 2012, 06:09:31 PM
Hey, I loved Slap Shot!

I bet you did!  A nice steak dinner I say...
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Post by: Zorba on August 28, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 28, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
Someone's going to be missing $274 ;)

I looked on ebay and I see that that may be a bargain for an uniformed newb.  ;) ;D


Quote from: 50s on August 28, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
That buyer kpposters has placed many bids in the current clint/sw auction. Must be someone with more money than sense

If you have the kind of money that guy seems to have, who needs sense?  Wish I could just buy every poster I wanted.  :P
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Post by: tstatum on August 28, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
When bidding tops Dave's selling prices something is truely wrong.
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Post by: Zorba on August 28, 2012, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: tstatum on August 28, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
When bidding tops Dave's selling prices something is truely wrong.

Dave does have multiple copies for sale and most are more than that price but watch this guy out dave dave...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLAP-SHOT-ORIGINAL-U-S-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-PAUL-NEWMAN-/110821506544?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd79fdf0#ht_500wt_1181
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Post by: CSM on August 28, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: tstatum on August 28, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
When bidding tops Dave's selling prices something is truely wrong.

 ;D
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on August 28, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Slap Shot is my all time favorite movie, an I'm not really a Hockey fan either. We had an old bootleg vhs copy in the late 70's and as kids we watched it a million times. I read a Paul Newman interview once and they asked him what his favorite movie was that he was in, and he said Slap Shot. Seriously.

We have a rolled never folded one sheet in great shape too.

(http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/pka105ebay.jpg)
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Post by: brude on August 29, 2012, 01:16:16 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljd2mfABB61qd0onoo1_500.gif#slapshot%20hansons)
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Post by: holiday on August 29, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
It may be the funniest movie I've ever seen.  It's awesome.

Quote from: CineMasterpieces on August 28, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Slap Shot is my all time favorite movie, an I'm not really a Hockey fan either. We had an old bootleg vhs copy in the late 70's and as kids we watched it a million times. I read a Paul Newman interview once and they asked him what his favorite movie was that he was in, and he said Slap Shot. Seriously.

We have a rolled never folded one sheet in great shape too.

(http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/pka105ebay.jpg)
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Post by: tstatum on August 29, 2012, 09:23:03 PM
Definitely the funniest sports movie ever.
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Post by: Zorba on August 29, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 29, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
It may be the funniest movie I've ever seen.  It's awesome.


I love the movie to no end.

Still, I dont love it NO WHERE near enough to pay $1,595 for a rolled one sheet per what super dave is chiseling. Think of what ALL you could buy for that!!!

I have two lobby cards and a b2 and Im good.   8)
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on August 29, 2012, 10:31:06 PM
Should have bought it while you had the chance. We just raised it to $2195.00.  8)
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Post by: Zorba on August 29, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on August 29, 2012, 10:31:06 PM
Should have bought it while you had the chance. We just raised it to $2195.00.  8)

Lesson learned!  ;D
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Post by: paul waines on August 30, 2012, 12:56:18 PM
I have just been trying to sign in at MPE, But my pass-word is rejected. I put in my Email address to re-set it, and it says invalid address...??  Yet I get up-dates, etc sent to it, so it must be registered.

Do I need to re-register? Sean, anyone?
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Post by: Silhouette on August 30, 2012, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: paul waines on August 30, 2012, 12:56:18 PM
I have just been trying to sign in at MPE, But my pass-word is rejected. I put in my Email address to re-set it, and it says invalid address...??  Yet I get up-dates, etc sent to it, so it must be registered.

Do I need to re-register? Sean, anyone?

Same. I thought I had my password wrong so asked it to send details to the email address I keep getting updates from them on, but it said invalid (or similar), so I figured I will have to register again, just haven't got around to it..
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Post by: Silhouette on August 30, 2012, 04:49:24 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on August 30, 2012, 03:16:59 PM
Same. I thought I had my password wrong so asked it to send details to the email address I keep getting updates from them on, but it said invalid (or similar), so I figured I will have to register again, just haven't got around to it..

Sorted.

Sean dropped me a note. Thanks for your prompt response.
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Post by: paul waines on August 31, 2012, 01:54:46 AM
Same here, he's most efficient is Sean...
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Post by: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
I send him a message through EMP contact page, but still no response. So, as we are here:

Sean, I'll be paying for that "Lost Jungle" one sheet soon. Don't send your hitmen yet  ;)
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Post by: CSM on August 31, 2012, 10:55:53 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
I send him a message through EMP contact page, but still no response. So, as we are here:

Sean, I'll be paying for that "Lost Jungle" one sheet soon. Don't send your hitmen yet  ;)

You could start a very slippery trend posting that on APF (but should be in Post Auction thread for all due $$$) ;)
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Post by: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on August 31, 2012, 10:55:53 AM
You could start a very slippery trend posting that on APF (but should be in Post Auction thread for all due $$$) ;)

Wouldn't like to. I'm just afraid of hitmen  ;)
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Post by: crowzilla on August 31, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
I send him a message through EMP contact page, but still no response. So, as we are here:

See - there's the problem. As long as you send messages to Bruce, I will never respond.  ;)
Thanks though
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Post by: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 31, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
See - there's the problem. As long as you send messages to Bruce, I will never respond.  ;)
Thanks though

Just a typo, Sean. I did send the message to MPE. And by the way:

Bruce, I'll pay for that Matto Grosso lobby card won a few days back. Don't send your hitmen either  ;)

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Post by: brude on August 31, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 01:34:52 PM

Bruce, I'll pay for that Matto Grosso lobby card won a few days back. Don't send your hitmen either  ;)



Is that the card that disappeared in transit?
Or am I thinking of someone/something else?
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Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
Just a typo, Sean. I did send the message to MPE. And by the way:

Bruce, I'll pay for that Matto Grosso lobby card won a few days back. Don't send your hitmen either  ;)



WE have no hit men.
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Post by: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 05:08:13 PM
(http://www.redemaranatha.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FAC-086.jpg)
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Post by: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: brude on August 31, 2012, 03:15:25 PM
Is that the card that disappeared in transit?
Or am I thinking of someone/something else?


Fortunately this one is not missing. :)
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Post by: brude on August 31, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 31, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
Fortunately this one is not missing. :)

 thumbup
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 01, 2012, 09:53:56 AM
guess this would be considered mid auction analysis for me, I may be the only one excited that the mini/major doesn't have alot of horror onesheets on my list. I forgot what feels like to have more than 150 in my poster fund... you guys bidding on them nice linen posters, good luck :-*
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Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: Steven11788 on September 01, 2012, 09:53:56 AM
guess this would be considered mid auction analysis for me, I may be the only one excited that the mini/major doesn't have alot of horror onesheets on my list. I forgot what feels like to have more than 150 in my poster fund... you guys bidding on them nice linen posters, good luck :-*

Maybe we can find something for you in our 13th Annual Halloween auction at the end of October!
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 01, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
oh snap i completly forgot, if not mistakin, that is the one with the free shirt as from last year.. welp guess i will start saving.
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Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2012, 12:26:10 PM
We discontinued the t-shirts. Too much added hassle at a time we were shipping hundreds of thousands of dollars of great stuff of all sizes.

But I hope to not disappoint you on the selection!
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Post by: crowzilla on September 01, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 01, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Maybe we can find something for you in our 13th Annual Halloween auction at the end of October!

Any Japanese lobby cards (he asked hopefully)?
 :)
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 01, 2012, 03:43:49 PM
haha, trust me that wont discourage me one bit,  ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2012, 09:19:54 AM
Oh dear, cue cheesy fight music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AphxyjrH4SE)!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Trek.jpg)


Why? Because the "deep pockets" - Mark Lawd, Holiday, Dilts, etc. - are converging on this one (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2680819)....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Matrix.jpg)
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Post by: brude on September 03, 2012, 09:30:20 AM
Gonna be a dogfight fer sure...  wynk
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Post by: Zorba on September 03, 2012, 09:32:14 AM
(http://beingfullypresent.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/white-flag.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on September 03, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
Thankfully, I have my own rolled version so I'm all set.  The big boys get to fight the one out without me.
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Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2012, 11:13:16 PM
How many others do you know of, Holiday?
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Post by: eatbrie on September 04, 2012, 04:54:59 AM
One of my favorite posters...  Terence Fisher's Horror of Dracula (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HORROR-OF-DRACULA-Hammer-Cushing-Lee-Rare-French-Grande-1st-release-Superb-/360484662387?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ee8f6c73).

If I didn't already own it, I'd go for it.  A great piece.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on September 04, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 04, 2012, 04:54:59 AM
One of my favorite posters...  Terence Fisher's Horror of Dracula (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HORROR-OF-DRACULA-Hammer-Cushing-Lee-Rare-French-Grande-1st-release-Superb-/360484662387?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ee8f6c73).

We've got one of those coming up in out Halloween auction (which will actually start on September 30 so you can get your posters in time for Halloween).
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Post by: holiday on September 04, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
One, with that guy out there that some may know, but I can't remember.  He has unbelievably great posters, but prices them through the roof.  I think he priced his copy at something like $2,500, but his was also rolled as I recall.  Beyond that, I know of no other copies.


Quote from: Bruce on September 03, 2012, 11:13:16 PM
How many others do you know of, Holiday?
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 05, 2012, 10:04:24 PM
Bruce, is the copy you are selling the one that was on Onesheetindex.com? 
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Post by: Bruce on September 05, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
Yep
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Post by: holiday on September 06, 2012, 12:10:17 AM
Ah, that's the copy that I was talking about.  I was wrong about it being rolled, obviously.

Quote from: Bruce on September 05, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
Yep
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 06, 2012, 12:25:42 AM
Didn't Dan sell a rolled one a while back on MOPO that was all banged up?  I seem to remember him having a folded one on linen, but after many years of searching he finally found a rolled copy to upgrade. Unfortunately, it got trashed in transit and he gave up trying to find another rolled one...

Maybe Dan can shed more light on this poster. If I'm remebering it correctly, though, that would make 4 known copies (2 folded, 2 rolled)...
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Post by: holiday on September 06, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
There's gotta be a few more out there, but it's a rare one to be sure.  I got my copy from dsonesheets going back a long time.  I paid what I thought was an insane price for it, but it turns out that it was a bargain for it's rolled and in very fine condition. 
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Post by: enki on September 06, 2012, 12:36:01 AM
According to here:
http://moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Matrix_Int.html
the poster is supposed to measure 26 15/16” x 29 3/4”, yet the EMP listing says it measures 27x41. Also, the example photo clearly shows a poster with dimensions that exceed the ~27/30 ratio, which is confusing.

It is certainly a cool looking poster. I don't like the fold lines though, I would have to go for a rolled copy.
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Post by: holiday on September 06, 2012, 01:01:52 AM
Actually, its supposed to be 26 3/4 x 38 1/2.  I think you mistyped that one.  Also, I don't think Bruce measures each one, but rather assigns one of the general format sizes.  I think if he actually breaks out a tape measure, it will measure up. If this is from onesheetindex as Bruce says, there's no doubt it's real.

Now, for your drooling pleasure, here's the rolled one in my collection.  I haven't seen it for years, and I just pulled it from the tube and shot this new photo.  I'm really glad I got it when I did.  As far as I know now, it's the only rolled one that's around, though I have got to to think there are others and that the owners just aren't talking about it.  I've left the mounting board in the pic so that it's uncropped for you to view, other than the mag strips top and bottom.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/IMG_1424.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2012, 06:50:26 AM
Holiday, you are completely correct. Our photographers photograph hundreds of posters at a time, and on one-sheets they are pre-divided by 27x40 and 27x41 and those are not measured, but ones that are anything else ARE always supposed to be measured, so my people let me down on this one.

But I will have them pull it first thing this morning and and measure it exactly and post what I find (and of course correct the auction).

And 100% this is from onesheetindex.com!

Bruce
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Post by: brude on September 06, 2012, 09:55:12 AM
That's a beauty, Holiday.  thumbup
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Post by: holiday on September 06, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: brude on September 06, 2012, 09:55:12 AM
That's a beauty, Holiday.  thumbup

Thanks, Ted.  I'm quite fond of it.
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Post by: ATLfun on September 06, 2012, 11:37:41 AM

 So does anybody want to go on the record as to what Matrix Int. will sell for tonight?  Unfortunately, my work schedule will preclude me from watching the auction live and my gavelsnipe for emovie is a little buggy  wynk.  So, I might have to put in an early bid and let the chips fall where they may.  I think I am the current high bid as of this morning, though I know it is unrealistically low at this moment.

  

Brian
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Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2012, 02:32:05 PM
Quote from: enki on September 06, 2012, 12:36:01 AM
According to here:
http://moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Matrix_Int.html
the poster is supposed to measure 26 15/16” x 29 3/4”, yet the EMP listing says it measures 27x41. Also, the example photo clearly shows a poster with dimensions that exceed the ~27/30 ratio, which is confusing.

It is certainly a cool looking poster. I don't like the fold lines though, I would have to go for a rolled copy.

I pulled it out and measured it and it is exactly 26 15/16” x 39 15/16” (the "29 3/4”" is obviously a typo, and they either meant to put 39 3/4" or 39 15/16"). It is exactly 39 15/16".

We are adding this to the auction.

Thanks,
Bruce
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Post by: eatbrie on September 06, 2012, 06:22:53 PM
I know Holiday likes it but I think it's a very, very ugly poster.  Just Keanu himself is enough to make me run, but the whole poster has zero creativity to it.  Aside from the fact that it's rare, I really don't get you guys' passion for it.

T
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Post by: holiday on September 06, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 06, 2012, 06:22:53 PM
I know Holiday likes it but I think it's a very, very ugly poster.  Just Keanu himself is enough to make me run, but the whole poster has zero creativity to it.  Aside from the fact that it's rare, I really don't get you guys' passion for it.

T

It's my favorite of them all, but not because it's the rarest.  I like the darker tone.  Frankly, though, all of the matrix posters leave a lot to be desired as a campaign.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 06, 2012, 08:18:49 PM
Quote from: holiday on September 06, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
It's my favorite of them all, but not because it's the rarest.  I like the darker tone.  Frankly, though, all of the matrix posters leave a lot to be desired as a campaign.

Anything with Keanu Reeves on it leaves to be desired.  And come on Holiday, honestly, this is a terrible photoshop montage.  Like Pulp Fiction.  It's pretty bad too, but at least it has Uma.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 06, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
Finis. Brian wins it. By the way, the consignor told me that this copy originated from Dan Rickard....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Matrix-1.jpg)
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Post by: enki on September 06, 2012, 09:10:14 PM
I guess his early bid was good enough.
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Post by: Zorba on September 06, 2012, 09:11:14 PM
I enjoyed the show!  pcorn

Thanks for the thursday night theatre boys.

 clap clap clap clap clap clap clap

and Gratz Brian.  cheers



Edited for day of the week. This is thursday no? I put tuesday.  8)




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Post by: Harry Caul on September 06, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 06, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
Finis. Brian wins it. By the way, the consignor told me that this copy originated from Dan Rickard....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Matrix-1.jpg)

So Dan has managed to track down 3 of the 4 known copies of this poster?!?
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Post by: ATLfun on September 06, 2012, 09:18:08 PM
  It was truly my last bid. Thanks for the congratulations.  Usually, this is where APF'ers let me know that I paid too much.   wynk
But at least my collection has some key posters.  Moviepostercollectors.com "Rare" section is my inspiration.  thumbup


Brian

Edit: Actually this poster was my last pre-hiatus purchase and my first Universal monster:

                           (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/australian_db_revenge_of_the_creature_HP01368_L.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on September 06, 2012, 09:25:23 PM
The two people who were with you are people who have good instincts for what will do great in the future.  Your only fear is that a bunch of them turn up some day.

Congrats!
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Post by: enki on September 06, 2012, 10:05:45 PM
So who here is going for that Cleopatra?
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Post by: Louie D. on September 06, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: enki on September 06, 2012, 10:05:45 PM
So who here is going for that Cleopatra?

Me.  Been saving for a while.
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Post by: Neo on September 06, 2012, 10:27:17 PM
Excellent win, Brian.   thumbup

Dan is probably wishing he had consigned The Matrix lightning one sheet to Bruce, instead of selling it on MPF.  When I missed that "for sale" post, it was about the only time I have regretted not checking out MPF more often, but it's good to see that they both went to good folks.
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Post by: Louie D. on September 06, 2012, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on September 06, 2012, 09:18:08 PM

Edit: Actually this poster was my last pre-hiatus purchase and my first Universal monster:

                           (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/200/australian_db_revenge_of_the_creature_HP01368_L.jpg)

Meh, it's a daybill AND Universal International.
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Post by: ddilts399 on September 06, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 06, 2012, 09:16:39 PM
So Dan has managed to track down 3 of the 4 known copies of this poster?!?

Wow is all I am gonna say on that one. I walked away from this whole auction on purpose as signature or mini/major auction title mean people pay more than they should for anything. There were 3 things I wanted but I was not going to the gavel with the crazies on anything.

Congrats to those that got what they wanted.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 07, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on September 06, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
I walked away from this whole auction on purpose as signature or mini/major auction title mean people pay more than they should for anything.

So true.  I only bid on what I cannot buy elsewhere.  If I already owned something, it sold for 3 to 5x more than what I paid for.  So congrats to Bruce.  He knows where to find them.

T
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Post by: holiday on September 07, 2012, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 06, 2012, 08:18:49 PM
Anything with Keanu Reeves on it leaves to be desired.  And come on Holiday, honestly, this is a terrible photoshop montage.  Like Pulp Fiction.  It's pretty bad too, but at least it has Uma.

Nah, on this one I have to disagree.  Sometimes photoshop is not so bad.  Not everything has to be painted to be good.  I think you have to be a real fan of the movie, though, to like these posters.  I am, so it fits.

Congrats to you, Brian.  I think you did well, and considering what was being originally asked, it sounds like you "saved" about a grand.

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Post by: eatbrie on September 07, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
Well, not a huge fan of the movie to begin with, so this might explain that.
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Post by: enki on September 07, 2012, 12:50:29 AM
Matrix was awesome.

The sequels were beyond horrible. In my humble opinion of course.
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 07, 2012, 08:42:20 AM
never could get into the matrix... oh well, that is an insane price to me, but glad you got it,
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Post by: Neo on September 08, 2012, 09:59:32 PM
Anybody see this listing?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIEF-James-Caan-1981-THEATER-MOVIE-POSTER-60-x-40-Rare-LARGE-SCALE-SIZE-/271055287535?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1912680615443299501%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIEF-James-Caan-1981-THEATER-MOVIE-POSTER-60-x-40-Rare-LARGE-SCALE-SIZE-/271055287535?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D1912680615443299501%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26)

Pretty cool poster, but it has an extra feature, someone used markers on the back side of it to make a homemade poster!  8)  Have any of y'all seen something like this before? 

Front side - American artist (?)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/back2.jpg)

Back side - daybill artist (?)  :P

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/back.jpg)

Great movie.  Just saw it recently, and picked up a 30x40 for it.  I'm thinking about bidding on this one also.  What do y'all think about the marker ink on the back side.  Will it eventually "bleed" through?  If it was linen backed, would it still eventually "bleed" through?

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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2012, 10:37:39 PM
This is a piece of history for sure.  I have seen it many times, but never as well done as this one.  Some theaters would not get posters to advertise movies they would play sometimes as second billing, and would write the name of the movie and showtimes at the back of another poster.  But whoever did this went the extra mile.  It's cool.

T
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Post by: Neo on September 09, 2012, 12:53:34 AM
I thought it looked like a pretty good job for homemade art.  I was thinking more along the lines of how to preserve the front side, due to the art on the back side, but after thinking about it, you're right, T, the art on the back side itself is a piece of history.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 09, 2012, 07:03:07 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on September 09, 2012, 12:53:34 AM
I thought it looked like a pretty good job for homemade art.  I was thinking more along the lines of how to preserve the front side, due to the art on the back side, but after thinking about it, you're right, T, the art on the back side itself is a piece of history.

Add that to this thread:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,216.0.html

Wackiest/Most Unusual Things You've Seen on the BACK of a Poster
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Post by: Zorba on September 09, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: enki on September 06, 2012, 10:05:45 PM
So who here is going for that Cleopatra?

Now that it has gone over 31,000, I will have to bow out. :P
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Post by: ATLfun on September 09, 2012, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: Zorba on September 09, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
Now that it has gone over 31,000, I will have to bow out. :P


  Your such a quitter, Zorba.  ;D    Cleopatra would make you the Grand Poobah among elite collectors of overpriced unicorns, unapproved by the APF Price Police..   laugh1


(http://distractible.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/grand_poobah.jpg)



Brian

  
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Post by: Charlie on September 09, 2012, 10:18:27 AM
These were on eBay a month or two ago for $65...  APF Price Police Warning!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2682687
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Post by: eatbrie on September 09, 2012, 12:14:55 PM
Good job, Charlie, I'm naming you my 1st Lieutenant.

T
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Post by: Bruce on September 09, 2012, 12:29:52 PM
How many sets can I buy right now for $65 each? I'll take 'em!
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 11, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
i bought one for 15 then a mint one for like 25.00 is this wort that now :o :o :o


http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2685030
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Post by: Silhouette on September 11, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: Steven11788 on September 11, 2012, 06:21:25 PM

is this worth that now :o :o :o


It is if you are the person who bought it
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 11, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
so they are that rare, I did not know that
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Post by: Bruce on September 11, 2012, 07:42:15 PM
I saw that price and wondered what that was all about. I guess two guys who REALLY want it!
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Post by: Steven11788 on September 11, 2012, 08:24:53 PM
haha, your just that good. i love the poster, but not above 50, and that is on a a super day.
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Post by: Ari on September 19, 2012, 06:55:35 AM
Far out, I just the far superior Italian for a fraction of that, the film is becoming more and more of a cult favorite, which it deserves IMHO, but that's just a crazy price. Man I paid less for an orig Italian 2f NOTLD, and obviously that's not only nicer, but a much more popular film. Maybe my trashy collection will be worth something more than wall paper after all :)
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Post by: brude on September 24, 2012, 11:09:56 AM
What's wrong with this picture?
Is this the same restorative genius who worked on that beauteous ET advance?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221129870161&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221129870161&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vadim-Blood-and-Roses-Original-LINEN-BACKED-60s-Poster-Elsa-Martinelli-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTE3/$T2eC16ZHJGYE9noojc(oBQ(6OggSWQ~~60_57.JPG)

Original below...

(http://images.moviepostershop.com/blood-and-roses-movie-poster-1961-1020221558.jpg)  Dude likes blood, eh?
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Post by: Charlie on September 24, 2012, 11:14:20 AM
That's hilarious!  Why the yellow?
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
And the neck wound?
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Post by: Charlie on September 24, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
And the neck wound?

Yeah, it looks like he didn't know how to make flesh and provided some of his own art...
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Post by: Charlie on September 24, 2012, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: Charlie on September 24, 2012, 11:14:20 AM
Why the yellow?

What I don't understand is that it is a lot of work to do the yellow around the smaller text. 
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Post by: paul waines on September 24, 2012, 12:05:48 PM
And to colour in the upper-most text, again in Yellow....I'm sure he's gone out of the lines on that..... ;)
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Post by: brude on September 24, 2012, 12:08:10 PM
Check out the blood that runs down her arm and drips onto the rose.
Creative, eh?
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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
Clearly escaped from the WTF files!
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380475983428?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Why would Todd be selling this if it is the only one? 
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Post by: paul waines on September 24, 2012, 02:55:52 PM
Do you think He doesn't want it re-printed....
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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380475983428?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Why would Todd be selling this if it is the only one? 

Wow - I am not sure ANYONE knew that even existed (beyond Todd)!

The consensus had been that the daybill that was found (then listed on eBay - only to be sold off eBay at a fraction of its worth - then put to Heritage where it sold for $10,000) was the largest piece extant on the title. 

He's been holding out OR it just surfaced somehow...
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Post by: Louie D. on September 24, 2012, 03:33:28 PM
That may be the absolute WORST artwork on an MGM poster that I've ever seen.  Anyone got an original pressbook on this film?  Something doesn't seem quite right.
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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on September 24, 2012, 03:33:28 PM
That may be the absolute WORST artwork on an MGM poster that I've ever seen.  Anyone got an original pressbook on this film?  Something doesn't seem quite right.

I agree it does look pretty terrible.  Could it be a blown up and altered pressbook image?  Is today April 1?
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 24, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
Wow - I am not sure ANYONE knew that even existed (beyond Todd)!

The consensus had been that the daybill that was found (then listed on eBay - only to be sold off eBay at a fraction of its worth - then put to Heritage where it sold for $10,000) was the largest piece extant on the title. 

He's been holding out OR it just surfaced somehow...


That was my understanding as well... I always though Mark was the only major Bela/horror film from the 30s without any sizable paper for it.

Which still begs the question... why the hell would he sell it!?!?  I don't know him, but given his collection Todd never struck me as the he's-selling-it-because-he-needs-the-money type.  Who knows... maybe he's saving up for that Met 3-sheet that will be coming to auction ;)
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Post by: 110x75 on September 24, 2012, 04:40:06 PM
Is it even possible to make a US $195,000.00 payment by paypal?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2012, 06:09:16 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380475983428?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Why would Todd be selling this if it is the only one? 

he doesn't keep everything and we all want to sell for a variety of reasons Matt. I'm selling one of a kind art right now from my collection to finance real estate purchase for instance.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2012, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 24, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
The consensus had been that the daybill that was found (then listed on eBay - only to be sold off eBay at a fraction of its worth - then put to Heritage where it sold for $10,000) was the largest piece extant on the title.  

I didn't go back to look at the Heritage info on the daybill.. but I would bet it says "largest piece ever OFFERED"
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Post by: Silhouette on September 24, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2012, 06:09:16 PM
he doesn't keep everything and we all want to sell for a variety of reasons Matt. I'm selling one of a kind art right now from my collection to finance real estate purchase for instance.


Exactly...I need to buy a car today for the wife, I have a Pretty Woman 1Sh for sale will trade for a BMW X6...
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 24, 2012, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2012, 06:09:16 PM
he doesn't keep everything and we all want to sell for a variety of reasons Matt. I'm selling one of a kind art right now from my collection to finance real estate purchase for instance.


I understand the logic Rich.  It just seems wild to me that a collector of his stature would unload a one-off like this.  Presumably he has other valuable posters in his collection that have multiple copies in existence that would be much easier to re-acquire down the road. 

As you say, though, who knows.  Wasn't he the one who offered the Bride teaser at HA a while back as well?
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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Yes he was Matt - with a very high reserve

And Rich - it was just knowledgeable collectors discussing the daybill that lead me to believe it was the largest (and only 'poster') known at that time.

But I did check the HA listing and there is this blurb:  "Offered in this lot is the only poster we have ever offered for this film and the only poster we are aware of!"
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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 06:41:27 PM
One thing that does suck about the daybill is that Bela isn't pictured (but it's still a nice poster!)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2012, 06:51:08 PM
Matt.. Todd and I are older than you are, and at some point you reach a "it's time to start selling" mindset. I'm selling art today I never thought I would. Stuff I've had for 25 years or more.. It's a natural life cycle unless you are Bill Gates and can accumulate forever without any consequence and with the expectation that what you acquire will not be fucked off by heirs selling for peanuts.

something to consider also.. when you have owned the kind of great stuff that Todd has or I have, it becomes alot easier to sell them later on. For instance, about 1/3 of all Famous Monsters cover paintings by Basil Gogos and others went through my hands. The earliest painting I owned was #7 or #9. I had kept #12 & #16 for a long time, but I eventually sold them to fund something else. I made alot of money on Basil Gogos art. I've owned a few Frazetta paintings. I never kept one more than a few months or a year. I made lots of money on those also. Todd wants the cash for whatever reason. Maybe he wants to start a trust fund for his child. Honestly.. I don't care why he's selling it.. It's nice to see it. and yes, he is the owner of the Bride teaser
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Post by: guest4185 on September 24, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 24, 2012, 03:05:56 PM
Wow - I am not sure ANYONE knew that even existed (beyond Todd)!

The consensus had been that the daybill that was found (then listed on eBay - only to be sold off eBay at a fraction of its worth - then put to Heritage where it sold for $10,000) was the largest piece extant on the title. 

He's been holding out OR it just surfaced somehow...



I still hope whoever did that feels some sort of guilt for denying all those keen to bid on eBay just to rip off the buyer and make a quick buck.
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Post by: crowzilla on September 24, 2012, 08:48:37 PM
Some people certainly knew it existed.  Ron Moore even mentioned it in an MCW article a few years back when Freddie Poe was doing a survey on rarest horror pieces.

It's a great poster, and if you could choose only a single one-sheet, half or insert to save from this film, this piece is the clear winner.  Better than anything except perhaps the style A 3-sheet (which as yet has never surfaced).

But as Rich said, sometimes it's just time to sell something.  Why did Todd sell his one-of-a-kind style B one-sheet to Black Cat a few years ago and hold onto the style A of which there are multiples of instead? The easiest answer might be because people who were willing and able to pay a lot for a Black Cat one-sheet already had a style A, or were willing to pay more for a style B, or perhaps he felt the time was right to test it after the crazy amount of money was spent on the A at Heritage. 
Todd has several great pieces that have not been pictured in any books and have been buried for years/decades. Wish he would do his own version of Graven Images to share them all, but that is totally his prerogative. 


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Post by: CSM on September 24, 2012, 10:08:39 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 24, 2012, 08:48:37 PM

Todd has several great pieces that have not been pictured in any books and have been buried for years/decades. Wish he would do his own version of Graven Images to share them all, but that is totally his prerogative. 

That would be fantastic but I am not holding my breath...
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Post by: Ari on September 24, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
Must have that blood and roses.
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2012, 12:07:19 AM
Here are an image of the MARK pressbook cover and inside page, showing the various poster styles that were available:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7224/7097946339_06fd9a2d84_z.jpg)


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7219/7097946337_e688be2f92_z.jpg)


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Post by: 110x75 on September 27, 2012, 12:16:47 AM
I'll take one of each, please  ;)

Nice to see you back Jeff
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Post by: brude on September 27, 2012, 10:21:27 AM
They are to die for.
Nice post, Jeff.
 cheers
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Post by: brude on September 27, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
Meanwhile, this seller is letting everything go for only $89.99 each.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Movie-Memorabilia-/196/i.html?item=320990648979&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&_ssn=rusty1377 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/Movie-Memorabilia-/196/i.html?item=320990648979&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123&_ssn=rusty1377)

Run....don't walk. (in the other direction)

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Post by: Ari on September 27, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Some sellers ( not poster dealers, but sellers) seem too scared they might let something go too cheap, they have no idea but think they might get ripped off by some sneaky buyer if they underprice. Idiot, they should do some research.
There's one in Australia like that, he does fairs in Sydney, no prices but if you ask he goes away for a while, comes back after talking to his wife and asks for some stupid price, he just does not want to sell something valuable cheap, but doesn't know which is and which isn't valuable, so he assumes if you ask, then it must be.
Drives me nuts.
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Post by: jayn_j on September 27, 2012, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: Ari on September 27, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
Some sellers ( not poster dealers, but sellers) seem too scared they might let something go too cheap, they have no idea but think they might get ripped off by some sneaky buyer if they underprice.

Sounds like a well known seller of Mexican Lobby cards.
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Post by: Ari on September 27, 2012, 11:02:45 AM
Oh yes it does, ten dollars each if you buy in bulk? Hmmm, no thanks,
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2012, 12:37:10 PM
Last night, I was looking at the ebay image of this poster, after I posted the image of the OS from the pressbook and things began to catch my eye. In looking at the ebay copy of the MARK OF THE VAMPIRE OS, and comparing it to the Style D image directly from the pressbook, there are some slight and not so slight variations in much of the artwork and font styles.

* Lugosi and Borland's faces appear to be hand rendered on the ebay copy, rather than the photos that were used on the PB one sheet. Both faces are lacking any color and are more washed out. The pressbook poster has each actor with very white faces, blue shadows across Lugosi's forehead and cheeks and each have intense, red lips. The part in Borland's hair is also different on the 2 versions.

* Lugosi's left ear (in shadow) is much more prominent and extends out further on the ebay copy. Note that on the pressbook image, that same ear is little more than a pointed "bump" on the side of Lugosi's head.

* The shape of the candlestick varies. The left side of the candle on each is markedly different, with the ebay candle being more a straight line from top to bottom; the PB version shows areas that are uneven, as tho melted in spots.

* The smoke whisp lines that rise to the top of the page are slightly different and dont quite match. Note how they all touch next to the T in Hersholt, on the pb image; they do not on the ebay image. The candle flame art is also slightly different.

* The word "A" is missing above the word, METRO, on the ebay copy. And the "do not reprint" watermarks do not appear to be blocking it, as is evidenced higher up on the poster, where credits can be read through the watermark.

*The title font color is different. The ebay version is green; the pressbook (and a reproduction found on Moviegoods, which I used for the larger image only), both show the font to be yellow.

*The font style is slightly off on some words. Look at the letter A in Elizabeth and in her last name, ALLAN. On the pressbook version, the openings above the cross line of the A's are quite small; on the ebay copy, that open area is much larger. The Z in Elizabeth is not the same, and the capital E, in BARRYMORE looks slightly different, with the center leg of the E being a bit higher than on the PB image.

*On the pb version, the letters G and O in Lugosi look to be thicker, when compared to those on the ebay version.

*The letter O in the title "OF" has a larger center opening on the ebay copy, when compared to the pb style D version.

* The tail of the letter R in Hersholt extends below the S on the pb version; on the ebay copy, the bottom of the two letters are even.

One last difference, too, is the area of Lugosi's tie, the cowl under his chin, and areas of his shirt that are visible. On the pressbook one sheet, the tie in not as detailed, the shape of the tie that hangs down is different and the small triangular area of white shirt that is just to the left of the letter M of Metro, seen on the pb version, is no where to be found on the ebay copy. Also, very little of Lugosi's white shirt is shown at all on the ebay copy; not so, on the style D, from the pb.

So is the copy on ebay a first release? IMO, this looks to be something possibly done later, using the original pressbook one sheet as a template. Too many things appear to be inconsistent, when compared to to the image from the pressbook.



(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8171/8030118634_b31acb65e8_b.jpg)  (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8173/8028991725_b9342f7207_z.jpg)




(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8171/8030118634_b31acb65e8_b.jpg)(http://images.moviepostershop.com/mark-of-the-vampire-movie-poster-1935-1020174154.jpg)




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Post by: brude on September 27, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
Nice dissection, Jeff.
I initially attributed some of these inconsistencies to poor photography reproduction on the Pressbook page, but those blobs on the side of the candle (and the smoothed out arc of the smoke on the left side of the poster) look like bad restoration to me. 
Maybe that's why Todd has set such a low opening bid for such a scarce poster?
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
Ted, the faces of Borland and Lugosi are markedly different in their aesthetic appearance, wouldnt you say? Even taking into account, photographic variance, the renditions are not the same:

Faces:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8458/8030303735_5eb189ee5e_b.jpg)

Candles (Pbook image on L, ebay copy on R):

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8311/8030320907_50b388cb88.jpg)

Bow ties/shirt variations and the Missing "A" above Metro:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8322/8030336675_f0abb2f7c5_z.jpg)
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on September 27, 2012, 02:39:22 PM
Press book images of posters sometimes (or often depending on your point of view) do not match 100% what the actual poster looks like. I've even heard of instances where they have versions of posters listed that they never actually printed. I wish I could remember an actual example, but all I can remember is that it was discussed awhile ago on one of these forums. I can't remember which forum but likely it was nsfge. I think the early star wars press books have one sheets with Hildebrandt art instead of Tom Jung.
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 27, 2012, 05:40:19 PM
Meanwhile... Did anyone else notice that Todd also just listed a Black Cat 1sh last night for a cool $250k?
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Post by: Silhouette on September 27, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Lot of loose chat about these being fakes. You'd have to be pretty ballsy to list a fake on eBay, be asking $200K plus and not expect people to check...
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on September 27, 2012, 07:05:06 PM
Most of the ones you see on ebay are not really "fakes", they are reproductions that people list as real ones....sometimes by mistake, sometimes on purpose.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 27, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on September 27, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Lot of loose chat about these being fakes. You'd have to be pretty ballsy to list a fake on eBay, be asking $200K plus and not expect people to check...

it takes a real moron to question the posters that Todd is selling
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Post by: 110x75 on September 27, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
Rich, I couldn't doubt about Todd's honesty as I don't know anything about him, besides that he is one of the biggest early horror collectors, but taking in consideration that Haggard was also a top collector, well-regarded among his colleagues, the possibility is there, even if highly unlikely.
Personally I believe Dave is right and this is a case of difference between pressbook images and real posters.
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Post by: brude on September 27, 2012, 07:57:47 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 27, 2012, 05:40:19 PM
Meanwhile... Did anyone else notice that Todd also just listed a Black Cat 1sh last night for a cool $250k?

Ain't it a beaut?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-BLACK-CAT-1934-Boris-KARLOFF-Bela-LUGOSI-27x41-ONE-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$(KGrHqN,!pkF!tS74MbOBQY8hCWsSw~~60_3.JPG)
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Post by: 110x75 on September 27, 2012, 08:06:52 PM
I wouldn't mind owning any of the two.  :)
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Post by: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 27, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
it takes a real moron to question the posters that Todd is selling

I don't know about a moron, but at least someone who doesn't know Todd.
There are also very few posters in existence where one could list a $200K starting price and have a legitimate comment that it was a "low opening bid".
This is not such a poster.

It is amazing that we are talking about "photographic variance" when discussing the art mock-up of a poster from a pressbook.  The pressbook is not showing photographs of actual posters, but rather a guideline of what the art department will be producing (and in some cases still doesn't produce). The original release of the Raven is a famous example of showing items that were not produced.

Here is another. Besides the title card, not a single one of these lobby cards was produced showing the images from the pressbook. That is seven strikeouts in our pressbook.
(http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/sonfrank.jpg)
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Post by: 110x75 on September 27, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 08:09:08 PM
I don't know about a moron, but at least someone who doesn't know Todd.


Or and old beef...  ;)

Interesting info on that Frank pressbook.  thumbup
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
Thanks, Sean and Dave, for explaining that pressbook images could sometimes just be early mockups of what may or may not be available or even produced, poster wise, versus what was actually finally printed. I assumed that pressbooks showed what actual, existing poster styles were available, so that theater owners could decide what styles and sizes they wished to display.

I have emailed with Todd before and know the caliber of material he has, has sold and his reputation.

I was pointing out variances in the 2 images, based on the pressbook style D image.

I suggested a possible later re-release, based on the original artwork; I also certainly know that Todd would not ever offer a fake.

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Post by: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
Quote from: brude on September 27, 2012, 01:25:31 PM

Maybe that's why Todd has set such a low opening bid for such a scarce poster?

Still scratching my head on this one.
In a thread below we have a guy wanting to set off sirens because the safety of ordering from Bruce has led to bidding of $5 more than you could buy a poster for on eBay, but here we have people talking about a "low opening bid" of $200K.  (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/screwy.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 27, 2012, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
Still scratching my head on this one.
In a thread below we have a guy wanting to set off sirens because the safety of ordering from Bruce has led to bidding of $5 more than you could buy a poster for on eBay, but here we have people talking about a "low opening bid" of $200K.  (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/screwy.gif)


they are the Poster Police
some are just rookies though.....
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Post by: CSM on September 27, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
He's asking less for that Black Cat then he sold the red/black/white version for at Heritage (although that was the only one of that style extant)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 27, 2012, 10:46:26 PM
the Price Posse will have a long explanation..

I have a short one:

the market ain't what it was.......
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Post by: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 27, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
He's asking less for that Black Cat then he sold the red/black/white version for at Heritage (although that was the only one of that style extant)

Because it's not as nice, nor as rare?
Plus the fact that the people willing and able to spend that much money on a poster either already have a copy, or would rather purchase something else.
He used to advertise it at something around 800K for several years then dropped it to 375K about five-six years ago, and then again once more to the current asking price.
For my money the B style half sheet is better than either of the one-sheets.
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Post by: Silhouette on September 27, 2012, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 27, 2012, 10:46:26 PM
the Price Posse will have a long explanation..

I have a short one:

the market ain't what it was.......

Frankly THAT was too much information...

"the market ain't what it was" is one thing, telling us about the size of your weener, probably not required...
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Post by: eatbrie on September 27, 2012, 11:52:54 PM
I just spent more than a quarter of that price redoing 2 bathrooms, so all things considered, I don't think 200k is a high starting price for a poster of this caliber.  When something is unique, it becomes a legitimate piece of art, and art is priceless.  So says the Poster Price Police.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on September 28, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 27, 2012, 11:52:54 PM
When something is unique, it becomes a legitimate piece of art, and art is priceless.  So says the Poster Price Police.
T

If a second were to surface would it cease being a piece of art? And could a price be put on it then?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 28, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on September 27, 2012, 11:03:51 PM
Frankly THAT was too much information...

"the market ain't what it was" is one thing, telling us about the size of your weener, probably not required...

 :P
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Post by: eatbrie on September 28, 2012, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 28, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
If a second were to surface would it cease being a piece of art? And could a price be put on it then?

We all have our standards.  By my personal standards, a piece of art is unique.  There is only one.  Two makes it an extremely rare poster.  Still extremely desirable and worth all the money you can sell it for, but not unique.  Take my French Laura, for instance.  There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 

T
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Post by: 110x75 on September 28, 2012, 12:50:52 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 28, 2012, 12:27:23 AM
There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 


Then you are not Poster Police, you're Poster Fireman

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/BOOKS/Pix/pictures/2011/9/29/1317296768757/Fahrenheit-451-007.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on September 28, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
Yeah montag, better take a long hard look at one of your posters.
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Post by: 110x75 on September 28, 2012, 01:00:00 AM
I will.
Memorize every detail.
And then describe it to the guy that restored Bob's E.T. poster so he can make a replica.
Sounds like a plan.  ;)
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Post by: Silhouette on September 28, 2012, 01:03:33 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 28, 2012, 12:27:23 AM
We all have our standards.  By my personal standards, a piece of art is unique.  There is only one.  Two makes it an extremely rare poster.  Still extremely desirable and worth all the money you can sell it for, but not unique.  Take my French Laura, for instance.  There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 

T

I agree it is about personal standards, although I would say its more about personal choice and/or desire.

Would I spend $200K on a poster or piece of art? Probably not. Does that make me less appreciative of the poster, its art, its uniqueness and price? No, I don't believe it does. Would I spend $200K on something that T would not. More than likely - personal choice.

Should I stop asking myself questions out loud? Probably.

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Post by: Ari on September 28, 2012, 01:14:32 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on September 28, 2012, 01:00:00 AM
I will.
Memorize every detail.
And then describe it to the guy that restored Bob's E.T. poster so he can make a replica.
Sounds like a plan.  ;)

PERFECT. I wonder who will be lucky enough to memorise a great dark knight double sided advance?
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Post by: brude on September 28, 2012, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 27, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
Still scratching my head on this one.
In a thread below we have a guy wanting to set off sirens because the safety of ordering from Bruce has led to bidding of $5 more than you could buy a poster for on eBay, but here we have people talking about a "low opening bid" of $200K.  (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/screwy.gif)


Don't let it keep you up at night, Sean.  wynk
I rarely spend more than $20 on a poster...so, what would i know?
I also expected Todd's BRIDE teaser to sell at $750k.  I'm still scratching my own head that it didn't.
But, you and Todd are far better versed at these rare antiquities than I will ever be.
 
But, if I had unlimited resources, I would pay $500k for Lugosi and Borland as Count Mora and Luna on what is the only known one sheet in existence.
No, it isn't Uni horror and, many would consider it just a minor entry in the Golden Age of horror, but it is a one-of-a-kind, atmospheric classic that would look great in any millionaire's mansion.
So, based on my wishful thinking attitude, I would love to see it sell far north of his opening bid.
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Post by: crowzilla on September 28, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
I wonder how much the low opening bid on Metropolis will be next month at Heritage?
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 28, 2012, 05:50:50 PM
Might as well toss an only-known Freaks 1 sheet on the auction block while he's at it....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREAKS-1932-Original-TOD-BROWNING-Only-Known-27x41-ONE-SHEET-CLASSIC-HORROR-/380478096318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58964303be

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FREAKS-1932-Original-TOD-BROWNING-Only-Known-27x41-ONE-SHEET-CLASSIC-HORROR-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$T2eC16ZHJF0E9nmFSue7BQZQZFuEFw~~60_3.JPG)
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Post by: Silhouette on September 28, 2012, 06:19:19 PM
Don't know if it's a great poster but certainly is a landmark movie...which I guess makes it a great poster...

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Distort-crazy-mad-insane-smiley-emoticon-001038-facebook.gif)
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Post by: Bruce on September 28, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I am partial to the title card (which I auctioned)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FREAKS-POSTER-WALLACE-FORD-LEILA-HYAMS-TITLE-LOBBY-CARD-ONLY-6-99-/05/!B3MEJ+Q!2k~$(KGrHqR,!iIE)qvw8QW3BMlUB85J+!~~_12.JPG)
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Post by: Silhouette on September 28, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 28, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I am partial to the title card (which I auctioned)

A better one (IMHO) just because it has most of the "characters" on display. Wonder why the 1SH never did?
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Post by: CSM on September 28, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
For Todd's next trick - an original print of London After Midnight!
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Post by: Ari on September 28, 2012, 10:20:52 PM
Yeah what's the delay? Enough already.
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 28, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 28, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
For Todd's next trick - an original print of London After Midnight!

Yeah, a six sheet.
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Post by: brude on September 29, 2012, 07:59:41 AM
Todd's next trick, some poster for some other vampire movie...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/DRACULA-1931-Original-BELA-LUGOSI-27x41-One-Sheet-TOD-BROWNING-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$T2eC16R,!yUE9s6NFHziBQZnK8c1DQ~~60_3.JPG) I think I've heard of this one...
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Post by: CSM on September 29, 2012, 01:50:54 PM
Wonder whatever happened to Profiles' S1 "fake"?
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Post by: erik1925 on October 04, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Since Schan just put up his image of his KILLER KLOWNS quad in the "What's On Your Walls" thread, here is one from a seller in the UK. And priced at over $16,000.00  jawdrop

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/370656303864?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564cd65af8

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/23/!Bg67mgg!mk~$(KGrHqEH-D0EsLM3CdkCBLH!y6Ju8Q~~_12.JPG)




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Post by: erik1925 on October 04, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 28, 2012, 06:56:05 PM
I am partial to the title card (which I auctioned)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FREAKS-POSTER-WALLACE-FORD-LEILA-HYAMS-TITLE-LOBBY-CARD-ONLY-6-99-/05/!B3MEJ+Q!2k~$(KGrHqR,!iIE)qvw8QW3BMlUB85J+!~~_12.JPG)

+1.   sm1

A beautifully produced card!
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 04, 2012, 03:21:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 04, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Since Schan just put up his image of his KILLER KLOWNS quad in the "What's On Your Walls" thread, here is one from a seller in the UK. And priced at over $16,000.00  jawdrop

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/370656303864?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564cd65af8

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/23/!Bg67mgg!mk~$(KGrHqEH-D0EsLM3CdkCBLH!y6Ju8Q~~_12.JPG)


Thanks for outing it asshole!  Now I'll never stand a chance...



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Post by: jayn_j on October 04, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 04, 2012, 03:21:53 PM
Thanks for outing it asshole!  Now I'll never stand a chance...

 sm1
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Post by: brude on October 05, 2012, 08:44:08 AM
That's the same knucklehead that only wants $1.6 million for a KING KONG ESCAPES quad.  mesmrized

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KiNG-KONG-ESCAPES-Original-UNiVERSAL-Cinema-Quad-POSTER-/11/!BoJ-RSwBWk~$(KGrHqYH-DIEt0D89PzJBLm(t8E!N!~~_12.JPG)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KiNG-KONG-ESCAPES-Original-UNiVERSAL-Cinema-Quad-POSTER-/370657332317?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564ce60c5d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/KiNG-KONG-ESCAPES-Original-UNiVERSAL-Cinema-Quad-POSTER-/370657332317?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564ce60c5d)

I wonder if he'd take two BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN teasers in trade...  hitself

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Post by: paul waines on October 05, 2012, 12:05:30 PM
I have this Quad twice, and I only want one Bride Teaser.... ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 14, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
Speaking of OZ earlier, here is a seller stating that this Italian poster for OZ is from 1939.

However, OZ wasnt released in Italy until December, 1947. This could still be an Italian early release, as down in the lower left, it reads Artero-Roma-48 (a possible abbreviation for 1948?) and in the lower right, Edizioni - Cussino.

BIN: $10,000.00 (obo)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WIZARD-OF-OZ-italian-movie-poster-1939-Judy-Garland-/350487459886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519aae382e

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/WIZARD-OF-OZ-italian-movie-poster-1939-Judy-Garland-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTM1/$(KGrHqVHJBsE60e3vhY(BOyi-TDz2g~~60_12.JPG)
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Post by: rumble on October 14, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 04, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Since Schan just put up his image of his KILLER KLOWNS quad in the "What's On Your Walls" thread, here is one from a seller in the UK. And priced at over $16,000.00  jawdrop

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/370656303864?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item564cd65af8

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KiLLER-KLOWNS-FROM-OUTER-SPACE-Orgnl-Quad-Cinema-POSTER-/23/!Bg67mgg!mk~$(KGrHqEH-D0EsLM3CdkCBLH!y6Ju8Q~~_12.JPG)

"for the record im really not too interested in selling this poster,  serious offers only or you will just be wasting your time and life's full of things to do so please dont waste your time, thanks"

Could have fooled me... NOT!
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Post by: brude on October 14, 2012, 11:39:07 PM
Dude should just get a website if he feels the need to display his precious, priceless posters.
What a putz.
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Post by: Ari on October 14, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
its really odd how sought after that poster is all things considered.
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on October 15, 2012, 08:01:02 AM
The person selling that poster is a tosser.

He once had a uk quad for 'The Hidden' listed at £300 and i politely asked if there was any movement in the price. He responded with some idiotic rant about how he could sell it for twice that price and that it would only go to a real collector!

I politely told him to go fuck himself.
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Post by: Ari on October 15, 2012, 08:06:32 AM

Quote from: Hallucination Generation on October 15, 2012, 08:01:02 AM


I politely told him to go fuck himself.

If I may, would you be so kind as to make love to yourself, my good man.......?
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 15, 2012, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 15, 2012, 08:06:32 AM
If I may, would you be so kind as to make love to yourself, my good man.......?

... in the bum, whilst soaring through the air.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 20, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
Not an auction, but a BIN.

Ah, but to have a spare $6K sitting around for this Halloween treat.  clap

One beautiful card, with no restoration, per the seller:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-RAVEN-1935-BELA-LUGOSI-BORIS-KARLOFF-CLASSIC-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-LC-NMINT-/00/s/ODA2WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqR,!o4F!IiuUo8MBQe1-4jPdw~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-RAVEN-1935-BELA-LUGOSI-BORIS-KARLOFF-CLASSIC-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-LC-NMINT-/350621429414?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a2aa6ea6

(http://www.graphicsgrotto.com/animatedgifs/holidays/halloween/images/aghalloween30.gif)
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Post by: paul waines on October 20, 2012, 01:05:58 PM
What a first rate Card...
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Post by: brude on October 20, 2012, 01:13:33 PM
It sure is.
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Post by: CSM on October 20, 2012, 01:15:43 PM
Only thing that could top it would be Karloff in the image as well...
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Post by: paul waines on October 20, 2012, 01:16:55 PM
 :D
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Post by: Louie D. on October 21, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
If you take out the "Universal Horror" angle, it's a pretty mediocre card.
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Post by: Bruce on October 21, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on October 21, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
If you take out the "Universal Horror" angle, it's a pretty mediocre card.

Isn't that kind of like saying if you take away Brigitte Bardot's body and face she is average looking?
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Post by: Louie D. on October 21, 2012, 02:17:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 21, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
Isn't that kind of like saying if you take away Brigitte Bardot's body and face she is average looking?


Less than average looking actually:

(http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/03/gcelebrities/Brigitte_Bardot-2.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 21, 2012, 02:40:25 PM
that Raven card is mediocre just as Louie says. It's a boring scene card that  doesn't look any different than a Chandu card..
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 21, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
I should mention that aside from the title and the producer (Universal) it's very ordinary
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Post by: Zorba on October 21, 2012, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 21, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
Isn't that kind of like saying if you take away Brigitte Bardot's body and face she is average looking?


Excellent point by a man who actually knows what he is talking about.
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Post by: paul waines on October 22, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
You people are crazy, there's no where on the card that says Universal...!!

It's the boarders that make it for me, the Raven book, with uncle Carls name on, the candle that emanates around the card, and then it has Lugosi on it...  :D

And you know what makes it more special........I'm passionate about these films...

IT'S MORE THAN A HOBBY...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2012, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 22, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
You people are crazy, there's no where on the card that says Universal...!!

It's the boarders that make it for me, the Raven book, with uncle Carls name on, the candle that emanates around the card, and then it has Lugosi on it...  :D

Paul.. this is yur English class for this morning.

A) Borders - areas around a lobby card surrounding a central image

B) Boarders - 1: person who lives in a rental home 2: wild and crazy skateboarding maniac
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Post by: paul waines on October 22, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
 laugh1

Thanks Rich, and in my defence I'd only just woke up, took me about 15mins to get it typed.... :P  I'm not a morning person. :(
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 22, 2012, 02:45:02 PM
A) Morning 1:earliest part of the day

B) Mourning 1:not too happy 2:truly, the latest part of the day
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Post by: paul waines on October 22, 2012, 02:46:59 PM
At least I got that right...
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Post by: erik1925 on October 29, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
An Ebay BIN for ONE panel from a 6 sheet for THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Day-The-Earth-Stood-Still-RARE-Original-1951-Vintage-Poster-6-Sheet-Section-/350560864973?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519f0e4acd

$13,500.00  :o (or Make Offer):

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/The-Day-The-Earth-Stood-Still-RARE-Original-1951-Vintage-Poster-6-Sheet-Section-/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/$(KGrHqJ,!lwE9JVDGL29BPmugDv!!w~~60_12.JPG)





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Post by: CSM on October 29, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
Oh it's 10% off - better act quick before it's 83% off as it should be!   ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 29, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 29, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
Oh it's 10% off - better act quick before it's 83% off as it should be!   ;D

Right, Chris.. Such a deal... ;)

and the seller has had 2 offers- not accepted methinks..  :-\


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2012, 10:14:08 PM
I wonder what he wants for the rest of the poster??

 ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 30, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
A newer reprint of a Belgian poster for FORBIDDEN PLANET is currently being offered on Ebay and is advertised as a 1956 Original.  nono

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221146964111?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Here are images, first of that in the current auction and secondly, a legitimate copy. Several differences are immediately evident. The title, VERBODEN PLANEET, is missing from the reprint, and the banner below the spaceship has been redone, with the word, "Verrassend!" having been removed.

On close inspection of the photo the seller provided of the bottom border, one can clearly read, "Printed In Belgium" in the lower right. Legitimate copies are printed with "Imprime En Belgique" in the lower LEFT corner.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8139591260_57ddd12000.jpg)    (http://theforbiddenplanet.tripod.com/Belgian_Poster.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8139581284_a77a932de9.jpg)    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8139581346_f35305f4cd.jpg)

I notified the seller, so we will see if any change to the auction or a reply will be forthcoming.




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Post by: Silhouette on October 30, 2012, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 30, 2012, 05:09:35 PM

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8139591260_57ddd12000.jpg)    (http://theforbiddenplanet.tripod.com/Belgian_Poster.jpg)


So, that's what Rich's legs look like
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Post by: erik1925 on October 30, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 30, 2012, 05:09:35 PM
A newer reprint of a Belgian poster for FORBIDDEN PLANET is currently being offered on Ebay and is advertised as a 1956 Original.  nono

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221146964111?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Here are images, first of that in the current auction and secondly, a legitimate copy. Several differences are immediately evident. The title, VERBODEN PLANEET, is missing from the reprint, and the banner below the spaceship has been redone, with the word, "Verrassend!" having been removed.

On close inspection of the photo the seller provided of the bottom border, one can clearly read, "Printed In Belgium" in the lower right. Legitimate copies are printed with "Imprime En Belgique" in the lower LEFT corner.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/8139591260_57ddd12000.jpg)    (http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA120626/550/belgian_forbidden_planet_HP00731_L.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8139581284_a77a932de9.jpg)    (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8139581346_f35305f4cd.jpg)

I notified the seller, so we will see if any change to the auction or a reply will be forthcoming.





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Post by: CSM on October 31, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/australian_db_house_of_dracula_linen_HP02131_L.jpg)

 :o :o :o
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Post by: brude on October 31, 2012, 07:36:13 AM
Nice work on exposing the Belgian FB, Jeff!  thumbup
Hopefully, the seller will update his listing...
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Post by: erik1925 on October 31, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
Ted,

I actually got 2 replies back from this seller. Very polite. The seller, in pricing his piece, referenced a previous ebay sale of that same reprint that sold recently for 150.00 (ouch).

I messaged him back with a range of prices of what legitimate Belgian FP have sold for, but have not found anything on what these later reprints go for. The seller asked what the value of his was, as well.

Can anyone provide a ballpark figure for what these later reprints might be valued at or sell for?
I was thinking 25-50.00 (but that may be way off).

 cheers
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Post by: guest4208 on October 31, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
It will be interesting to see how much this goes for. I wonder if it is the same daybill that was sold at Christies South Kensington in 1998. Universal Horror daybills are incredibly scarce.

Quote from: CSM on October 31, 2012, 12:19:35 AM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/australian_db_house_of_dracula_linen_HP02131_L.jpg)

 :o :o :o
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Post by: erik1925 on October 31, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 31, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
Ted,

I actually got 2 replies back from this seller. Very polite. The seller, in pricing his piece, referenced a previous ebay sale of that same reprint that sold recently for 150.00 (ouch).

I was thinking 25-50.00 (but that may be way off).

 cheers

Thanks, again, John, for the Belgian, repro pricing info.

Jeff


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Post by: Silhouette on October 31, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
Quote from: moviemem on October 31, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
I wonder if it is the same daybill that was sold at Christies South Kensington in 1998. Universal Horror daybills are incredibly scarce.


What did that sell for then?
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Post by: guest4208 on October 31, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on October 31, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
What did that sell for then?

From memory, it sold for about 600 pounds which converted to close to AUD1800.00 bucks at the time. I actually consigned it. The result was a bit disappointing but I dont think people realised how rare it was. I was at that auction and also the incredible James Bond auction that they had a few days before. The main room for the Bond auction was packed out and they had two other rooms with TV cameras of the actual auction and they were full too.

That month was a big one for movie poster collectors and dealers. There was also a Sotheby's auction and Ed Mason had one of his conventions with many of the big poster dealers attending. I have a feeling that around that time, Greg Edwards might have closed his shop in London and he had a bit of fire sale/package deals on lots of items. It was all a lot of fun.
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Post by: Silhouette on October 31, 2012, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: moviemem on October 31, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
From memory, it sold for about 600 pounds which converted to close to AUD1800.00 bucks at the time. I actually consigned it. The result was a bit disappointing but I dont think people realised how rare it was. I was at that auction and also the incredible James Bond auction that they had a few days before. The main room for the Bond auction was packed out and they had two other rooms with TV cameras of the actual auction and they were full too.

That month was a big one for movie poster collectors and dealers. There was also a Sotheby's auction and Ed Mason had one of his conventions with many of the big poster dealers attending. I have a feeling that around that time, Greg Edwards might have closed his shop in London and he had a bit of fire sale/package deals on lots of items. It was all a lot of fun.

Ahh well it will be interesting then, the market and the world is a little different since back then obviously, and right now there are so many horror auctions on or coming up collectors are definitely spoiled for choice.
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Post by: ATLfun on November 03, 2012, 04:15:50 PM


 So what is the story with Black Frankenstien?  Is it really that rare to justify the price?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2756185

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/200/blackenstein_retitled_HP01984_L.jpg)
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Post by: 110x75 on November 03, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
Extremely rare. I can almost see a nipple there and Bruce didn't cover it  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 03, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
LOL.. I love the username: Heluga4Mitt

Quote from: ATLfun on November 03, 2012, 04:15:50 PM

 So what is the story with Black Frankenstien?  Is it really that rare to justify the price?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2756185

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/200/blackenstein_retitled_HP01984_L.jpg)
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Post by: Louie D. on November 04, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 03, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
LOL.. I love the username: Heluga4Mitt


AWESOME!!! 
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Post by: crowzilla on November 04, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on November 03, 2012, 04:15:50 PM
So what is the story with Black Frankenstien?  Is it really that rare to justify the price?
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2756185

The copy that Heritage sold for over $3,000 had an "R" rating instead of "PG".
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7040&lotNo=83707

I wonder if it was a paste-over (seems you can see the PG peeking out underneath) or printed that way?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 06, 2012, 06:51:51 AM
Don't miss out on Prophecy 3 - linen-backed! (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2760322)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/prophecy_3_the_ascent_linen_HP02084_L.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2760322)
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Post by: Bruce on November 06, 2012, 07:15:00 AM
Mel, EVERYONE here was shaking their heads over that one! Is it an unknown great movie or sumthin?

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Post by: Ari on November 06, 2012, 07:43:18 AM
No,
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Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
What is this? I see no fold lines, tho, and no measurements are given.

$250. opening bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/movie-poster-breakfast-at-tiffanys-Paramount-pictures-Audrey-Hepburn-/170940218500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ccd4bc84

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/movie-poster-breakfast-at-tiffanys-Paramount-pictures-Audrey-Hepburn-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqN,!lkFBshCjNkEBQhWUWJBsw~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: Silhouette on November 11, 2012, 03:15:36 AM
Hard call through the glass/perspex but not a real deal to my old inexperienced eyes - where's her underwear?!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 11, 2012, 06:44:28 AM
The real giveaway is the 27x40 frame but also the missing NSS number to the right of "printed in USA":

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/27x40.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/NSS.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie on November 13, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2766460

Are you kidding me!  I've been waiting for this poster to pop up in a reasonable condition for years...  I don't think it is worth that much; FleBay for me I guess...  I have one already in pretty poor condition, but like Steve I pulled it out of the tube this weekend to see about upgrading (to this one) and the 18" tear extended a foot and I got so pissed I just ripped it in half!  Guess I could still fix it...  Or just bite down hard buy this one and explain to my wife later...

If it is someone here on APF, PM me and I won't bid...

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Post by: Harry Caul on November 13, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 13, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2766460

Are you kidding me!  I've been waiting for this poster to pop up in a reasonable condition for years...  I don't think it is worth that much; FleBay for me I guess...  I have one already in pretty poor condition, but like Steve I pulled it out of the tube this weekend to see about upgrading (to this one) and the 18" tear extended a foot and I got so pissed I just ripped it in half!  Guess I could still fix it...  Or just bite down hard buy this one and explain to my wife later...

If it is someone here on APF, PM me and I won't bid...



It's a cool poster, and the only English language one I know of with that art.  But for that price, get the quad. 
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Post by: Charlie on November 13, 2012, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 13, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
It's a cool poster, and the only English language one I know of with that art.  But for that price, get the quad.  

Yeah, I missed one that went BIN for $150... The quad...
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Post by: Charlie on November 13, 2012, 09:24:49 PM
Well I reluctantly passed on the Patton.  I just think one will pop up for less... I didn't want to get caught up on 'it may never come up again' thinking...
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Post by: guest8 on November 14, 2012, 07:55:12 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 13, 2012, 09:24:49 PM
Well I reluctantly passed on the Patton.  I just think one will pop up for less... I didn't want to get caught up on 'it may never come up again' thinking...

I always get caught up in that .. "this is the only one, I'll never see it again!!" :)
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Post by: Silhouette on November 17, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Although hardly a major crime specially as no one has bid on them (and are unlikely too), but as my wife (who loves the movie) probably owns pretty much every version of the original release US paper for this movie now's a good time to mention that the description fails to mention these are RE-releases.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161247&lotNo=54187#Photo
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Post by: guest8 on November 17, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 17, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Although hardly a major crime specially as no one has bid on them (and are unlikely too), but as my wife (who loves the movie) probably owns pretty much every version of the original release US paper for this movie now's a good time to mention that the description fails to mention these are RE-releases.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161247&lotNo=54187#Photo

Im more interested in the fact that your wife collects! That would be pretty awesome!
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Post by: Bruce on November 17, 2012, 04:11:13 PM
I see we have conflicting info on this on my site. What IS the first release U.S. poster from 1981?
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Post by: stewart boyle on November 17, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 06, 2012, 07:15:00 AM
Mel, EVERYONE here was shaking their heads over that one! Is it an unknown great movie or sumthin?

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Dont get this either,,what`s the score mel..?

Stew
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Post by: Silhouette on November 17, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 17, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Although hardly a major crime specially as no one has bid on them (and are unlikely too), but as my wife (who loves the movie) probably owns pretty much every version of the original release US paper for this movie now's a good time to mention that the description fails to mention these are RE-releases.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161247&lotNo=54187#Photo

Actually I did a boo-boo (apologies to HA for miss-direction), I pasted the wrong link - she has NEVER seen that shark movie, THIS is the movie that she has all original paper on and this is the link to the auction that does NOT state it is RE-Release

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161247&lotNo=54392


Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 17, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Im more interested in the fact that your wife collects! That would be pretty awesome!

No she doesn't collect as we know it, just accumulates the odd item. Because R&J is not a really collectable title it became a weird little completeist thing we were doing. Picked up the 6-sheet a few weeks ago to round out the collection, hardly a dent in the wallet - fortunately her taste is somewhat eclectic so it has never cost too much to grab the odd title along the way...to date anyhow.
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Post by: guest8 on November 17, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 17, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
No she doesn't collect as we know it, just accumulates the odd item. Because R&J is not a really collectable title it became a weird little completeist thing we were doing. Picked up the 6-sheet a few weeks ago to round out the collection, hardly a dent in the wallet - fortunately her taste is somewhat eclectic so it has never cost too much to grab the odd title along the way...to date anyhow.

It's still a fun to think that you can both enjoy the hobby together. :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 18, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
I apologize to anyone who may have been already watching this auction

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Help-A-Twinkie-Promote-U-S-Economic-Growth-/121021884570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2d77689a
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Post by: Silhouette on November 19, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Always nice to see people collecting on a theme that's just a little, ummmm...different

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/bath/14.html
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Post by: Bruce on November 20, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 19, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
Always nice to see people collecting on a theme that's just a little, ummmm...different

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/bath/14.html

See The Gospel according to St. Matthew Chapter 7, Verse 1
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Post by: Silhouette on November 20, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 20, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
See The Gospel according to St. Matthew Chapter 7, Verse 1

I thought it was cute, not passing judgement.
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Post by: Matt on November 20, 2012, 01:10:57 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 20, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
See The Gospel according to St. Matthew Chapter 7, Verse 1

Great timing Bruce. I passed judgement on someone this morning...in the afternoon, I had egg on my face. Lesson learnt!
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Post by: Louie D. on November 20, 2012, 01:12:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 20, 2012, 12:48:42 AM
See The Gospel according to St. Matthew Chapter 7, Verse 1

Hehe, is that where Jesus banged them whores?
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Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2012, 07:31:53 PM
A BIN for $7800.00 (obo), from a brand new seller.

A WC from Columbia's 1934 smash,  IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1934-It-Happened-One-Night-ORIGINAL-Movie-Poster-Window-Card-1st-1934-Printing-/00/s/MTUzNFgxMDAw/$(KGrHqZHJDIE+F9K1ZthBPyV4OEZBw~~60_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-It-Happened-One-Night-ORIGINAL-Movie-Poster-Window-Card-1st-1934-Printing-/140765190658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c6425a02

Egbert has had one listed, saying his is a '34 card, too. But his is actually a 1935 or more probable 1937 re-release card, since his shows the added "seal" artwork, above Gable's name, indicating the film had won "1st Prize" from the Academy:

(http://www.ithappenedonenight1934.com/images/us_posters/us-window-card-r1937.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IT-HAPPENED-ONE-NIGHT-MOVIE-POSTER-1934-WC-CLARK-GABLE-/130452762410?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5f972f2a




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Post by: guest4208 on November 27, 2012, 06:32:13 PM
It will be interesting to see what the daybills for FRWL and Dr No go for. They are already over $2000.00 each and I think one collector will be hoping to get them both. He seems to have pretty much cornered the market in James Bond Australian material. If any of the rare daybills come up he is certain to bid irrespective of whether he has more than one copy

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/australian_db_dr_no_linen_JC05828_L.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on November 27, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
Is this mystery bidder's name John Reid?  ;)
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Post by: guest4208 on November 28, 2012, 05:04:13 AM
 ;D Not a chance Chris.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 28, 2012, 08:27:30 PM
Bueller? .... Bueller? .... Anyone? .... Anyone?....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Bueller.jpg)

P.S. Wouldn't surprise me if the consignor is flipping one of the copies sold by Manifesti in the last year....
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 28, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Liliane is consigning them there herself.  She told me she has consigned to eMovieposter... why not Heritage too?  She must be sitting on a mountain of posters.
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Post by: archie leach on November 28, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
I still wouldn't pay more than $40 for that poster.
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Post by: Bruce on November 29, 2012, 06:39:00 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 28, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Liliane is consigning them there herself.  She told me she has consigned to eMovieposter... why not Heritage too?  She must be sitting on a mountain of posters.

Who is Liliane?
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Post by: jayn_j on November 29, 2012, 08:42:35 AM
Quote from: archie leach on November 28, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
I still wouldn't pay more than $40 for that poster.

About what I paid last year for a French 1p with the same image.  I like the image, but $1k is just crazy.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 29, 2012, 08:42:35 AM
About what I paid last year for a French 1p with the same image.  I like the image, but $1k is just crazy.

I'm with you.  I'm happy with my $75 Frenchie and would not shell out more than $500 for this just to get the English language (and smaller) international one sheet.  I expect Manifesti will keep selling these on Ebay, so maybe they will come down to that price range....
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 29, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 29, 2012, 06:39:00 AM
Who is Liliane?

That's who responds to my emails from the 'manifesti' account on eBay.  Not sure if that is her real name or not... she mentioned having consigned with you or at least the plan to.
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Post by: wonka on November 29, 2012, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: archie leach on November 28, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
I still wouldn't pay more than $40 for that poster.

This.

Quote from: Harry Caul on November 29, 2012, 10:38:08 AM
That's who responds to my emails from the 'manifesti' account on eBay.  Not sure if that is her real name or not... she mentioned having consigned with you or at least the plan to.

And that.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 29, 2012, 12:25:41 PM
Quote from: archie leach on November 28, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
I still wouldn't pay more than $40 for that poster.

Indeed.
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Post by: CSM on November 29, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
Poster Price Police alert!!!
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Post by: ATLfun on November 29, 2012, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 29, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
I'm with you.  I'm happy with my $75 Frenchie and would not shell out more than $500 for this just to get the English language (and smaller) international one sheet.  I expect Manifesti will keep selling these on Ebay, so maybe they will come down to that price range....


Okay, probably a bad time to admit that I am the underbidder on the Bueller.   wynk  And I received an email form Manifesti today that they are out of Buellers.


Brian
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Post by: Ari on November 29, 2012, 07:51:10 PM
Bet I know where to get one at your max bid.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 29, 2012, 11:18:20 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on November 29, 2012, 02:10:18 PM

Okay, probably a bad time to admit that I am the underbidder on the Bueller.   wynk  And I received an email form Manifesti today that they are out of Buellers.
Brian

sure wish some of you modern poster collectors had Raymond Chandler items  I'd consider in trade for my other ROLLED copy. Maybe I'll just put the Bueller poster up in the spot where Double Indemnity is supposed to go
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Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 02:38:20 PM
A 1949 Astor Pictures Corp re-release poster for the 1941 Monogram movie, Invisible Ghost, with Bela Lugosi, being offered and described as an original, 1941 release OS:

Listed with an opening bid of $799.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360526660665&fromMakeTrack=true

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INVISIBLE-GHOST-Bela-Lugosi-Horror-/00/s/ODk4WDYwMA==/$T2eC16RHJGoE9nuQfSr3BQukGqz-IQ~~60_57.JPG)

For comparison, here is the 1941 original release OS:

(http://pelisfree.net78.net/imagenespelis/invisible2.jpg)

I wrote the seller and explained the difference and included a pic link of the '41 OS. Will see if they amend their title and description, or leave it as is.






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Post by: brude on December 02, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
Good for you, Jeff.
Fine detective work like this makes the hobby safer for all of us.
 cheers
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Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
I don't remember the original having a ferret on it?  Is that a rare variation?  ;)
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Post by: crowzilla on December 02, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
Deke definitely knows the difference between the two version, it should not have to be explained to him at all
(and considering his starting price, he certainly knows this one is a re-release).

Seeing both of these posters in person though gives one of the very best examples ever of the difference between stone-lithography and off-set lithography.
The original release is absolutely stunning to see in person with colors that just leap out at you, and while the re-release utilizes the exact same artwork the in person difference is amazing.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 08:43:46 PM
If this seller knows it to be a re-release, it is no where to be found in his description and he even calls it an original 1941 release poster.

From his ad:

I am offering you this ORIGINAL 1941 RELEASE LINEN BACKED 1-SHEET (27" X 41") from the Horror Classic, "THE INVISIBLE GHOST." The stars include: Bela Lugosi, Polly Ann Young and John McGuire.  

And if, as you say, he knows it to be a re-release and is falsely advertising it as a 1st release poster, that makes it even worse.  nono
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Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 11:11:57 PM
Maybe he used the wrong pic?   :P
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Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 11:20:18 PM
The listing was amended and updated.

I also got a message from someone claiming he had helped with the upload of the listings and had made the error.

All's well that ends well. :)

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Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 11:42:07 PM
No idea Dario had made  these  (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2796408) available!
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Post by: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:48:11 PM
Seems someone who got one is selling, for the record, I still have mine and it's not going anywhere.
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Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:48:11 PM
Seems someone who got one is selling, for the record, I still have mine and it's not going anywhere.

You really have to learn to share sir
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Post by: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
If I had two, I would give you one. But I will leave it to you in my will.
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Post by: CSM on December 03, 2012, 12:33:05 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
If I had two, I would give you one. But I will leave it to you in my will.

Pish posh you are clearly immortal so I ain't getting squat
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Post by: Ari on December 03, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Haha I read that as immoral at first.
Ok, well if you didn't get one originally, first for shame, your even in the same country, and second, have a bid.
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Post by: CSM on December 03, 2012, 01:06:58 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 03, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Haha I read that as immoral at first.
Ok, well if you didn't get one originally, first for shame, your even in the same country, and second, have a bid.

Bruce?  Is that you?  ;)
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Post by: 110x75 on December 03, 2012, 07:19:36 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:48:11 PM
Seems someone who got one is selling, for the record, I still have mine and it's not going anywhere.

I think I recall reading that Dario himself consigned the one at Bruce's
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Post by: Ari on December 03, 2012, 07:30:49 AM
Yes, all along I was Bruce, a dastardly plan that is finally uncovered thanks to bloody taxi driver,
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Post by: 110x75 on December 03, 2012, 07:49:14 AM
So you are responsible for al those annoying black squares?
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Post by: Ari on December 03, 2012, 07:55:44 AM
No, Dave L broke in one night and stuck them on every nipple, bloody bastardo, I think he was jealous.
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Post by: 110x75 on December 03, 2012, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 03, 2012, 07:55:44 AM
I think he was jealous.

Of all those nipples?  ;D
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Post by: CSM on December 03, 2012, 09:36:58 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 03, 2012, 07:30:49 AM
Yes, all along I was Bruce, a dastardly plan that is finally uncovered thanks to bloody taxi driver,


I knew you'd slip up with the proper motivation!
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Post by: guest4251 on December 03, 2012, 11:00:46 PM
<<<< I think I recall reading that Dario himself consigned the one at Bruce's >>>>

That is correct! I was showing the TD poster on Face Book and Bruce made a comment that it would cool to have on in Dec Mini/Major.

Then Ron S. jumped in liking the TD card.

So I said, Sure why not! So I sent one to Bruce and one to Ron for being a nice guy! That was my last two ones!

It's fun item. I don't expect anything silly from the auction, but someone should pick it up as there is no more, ever!

I have the original one the wall.

Best,
dario.
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Post by: Ari on December 03, 2012, 11:26:05 PM
Great.
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Post by: Ari on December 05, 2012, 08:02:39 AM


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Authors-K-John-Kisch-author-of-A-Separate-Cinema-Press-Photo-/390508249847?ssPageName=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

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Post by: theartofmovieposters on December 05, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: Ari on December 02, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
If I had two, I would give you one. But I will leave it to you in my will.

I'm pretty sure I have two, and you still ain't getting one!
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Post by: CSM on December 05, 2012, 05:08:41 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on December 05, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
I'm pretty sure I have two, and you still ain't getting one!

You're a cruel, cruel woman Ves  :'(


Truthfully I don't even want Dario's stinkin' Taxi Driver poster - just surprised at the knowledge he made copies (being the nice guy he is).

Unlike Ves and Ari - who are big, greedy meanies...


 ;)
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Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
You remember back when you were in school and a bully said he was going to kick your ass or if you were the bully, you were going to kick someones ass... And you were all amped up...  For some reason, that is the way I am feeling right now for a particular poster I want from emovie.  Icy nerves, excitement and... hope (that I don't draw Holiday as a competitor - Bully!)  Weird I don't usually feel this way...

Stay out of my way or I am going to kick your ass!     gun1
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Post by: Silhouette on December 06, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
Stay out of my way or I am going to kick your ass!     gun1

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Bully-animated-animate-bully-smiley-emoticon-000195-facebook.gif)
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Post by: CSM on December 06, 2012, 08:29:38 PM
Did you win Charlie?
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Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
Got it!  woohoo
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Post by: CSM on December 06, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
Got it!  woohoo

Congrats - how many casualties?
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Post by: Silhouette on December 06, 2012, 08:35:11 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
Got it!  woohoo

Congrats. It was?
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Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 08:38:13 PM
(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/122012/mudhoney_HP01365_L.jpg)

Hah!  Ari would be proud eh?
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Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 08:39:10 PM
Now the real question is whether I leave the snipe on or not.  I think it makes the poster even better...
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Post by: ATLfun on December 06, 2012, 08:40:44 PM

 Snipe stays, bastard.


Brian
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Post by: Ari on December 06, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
Yes, very proud.
And I would leave the snipe myself.
Nice poster.
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Post by: CSM on December 06, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Quote from: Ari on December 06, 2012, 08:41:38 PM
Yes, very proud.
And I would leave the snipe myself.
Nice poster.


Yep - the snipe is in an OK place - I would leave it too!
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Post by: Zorba on December 06, 2012, 09:03:02 PM
Leave the snipe.
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Post by: brude on December 06, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Lose the snipe.
Messes up the composition.
 mesmrized
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Post by: CSM on December 06, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
Quote from: brude on December 06, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Lose the snipe.
Messes up the composition.
 mesmrized

Ted...it frames her face so nicely and adds just the right amount of sleaze ;) ...
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Post by: Silhouette on December 06, 2012, 09:22:02 PM
It's an R rating snipe, well worth keeping on
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Post by: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 09:47:14 PM
Snipe stays... in fact the more I look at it I may just hang it up as is.  Even the tape stains are growing on me... So happy - exactly why I collect...
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Post by: ddilts399 on December 06, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
Wouldnt clean that one up at all, the condition fits the poster!
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Post by: ATLfun on December 06, 2012, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on December 06, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
Wouldnt clean that one up at all, the condition fits the poster!

That is exactly what I told Charlie.  I just looks like it was pasted on a cinder block wall outside of some shady theater in the 70's.    O0


Brian
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 06, 2012, 10:05:08 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 09:47:14 PM
Snipe stays... in fact the more I look at it I may just hang it up as is.  Even the tape stains are growing on me... So happy - exactly why I collect...

Welcome to the Dark Side of movie poster collecting...
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Post by: Neo on December 06, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: Charlie on December 06, 2012, 09:47:14 PM

Snipe stays... in fact the more I look at it I may just hang it up as is.  Even the tape stains are growing on me... So happy - exactly why I collect...


Right on, Charlie.  It's a beaut.  Congrats.   thumbup
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Post by: Ari on December 06, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Yeah leave as is, it looks like what these modern "exploitation" posters do deliberately with their shabby chic fx.
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Post by: Silhouette on December 06, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: Ari on December 06, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Yeah leave as is, it looks like what these modern "exploitation" posters do deliberately with their shabby chic fx.

Really? Shabby chic? Refer here: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,5314.0/topicseen.html
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Post by: Ari on December 06, 2012, 10:41:26 PM
I agree, shabby chic is shit.
If you want old looking things, get something old.
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Post by: CSM on December 07, 2012, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 06, 2012, 10:41:26 PM
I agree, shabby chic is shit.
If you want old looking things, get something old.

Should I start collecting "Aris"??  ;)
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Post by: Ari on December 07, 2012, 12:19:37 AM
Be careful of minty white ones, the real ones are old, battered, stained, pinholes, tears, and unbacked,
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Post by: guest4185 on December 07, 2012, 12:55:46 AM
Leave the snipe, adds to it for mine
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Post by: brude on December 07, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Seems Miguel should point out in his description that this lovely poster has been defaced by some over-zealous neighborhood censor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/140882902208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cd467cc0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/140882902208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cd467cc0)
If it's marker, it's probably worthless now.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/00/s/Njc3WDQ1NA==/$(KGrHqR,!rIFBO8es)q!BQnMuCCMlg~~60_3.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4922/partygirl.jpg)

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Post by: ATLfun on December 07, 2012, 10:47:22 AM

 The modesty skirt was well done. Until I scrolled down, I was not sure of the added work.  I thought maybe a few more sparkles were added to the chest area.


Brian
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Post by: erik1925 on December 07, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Quote from: brude on December 07, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Seems Miguel should point out in his description that this lovely poster has been defaced by some over-zealous neighborhood censor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/140882902208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cd467cc0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/140882902208?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cd467cc0)
If it's marker, it's probably worthless now.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PARTY-GIRL-ROBERT-TAYLOR-NICHOLAS-RAY-1958-MOVIE-POSTER-1985-/00/s/Njc3WDQ1NA==/$(KGrHqR,!rIFBO8es)q!BQnMuCCMlg~~60_3.JPG) (http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4922/partygirl.jpg)



Ted, that skirt almost looks like it was printed, doesnt it? Solid black, no seeming evidence of a marker, as the color is consistent-no breaks or areas showing from underneath, and the "ruffled" pattern around the waist, too, makes me think it was added by the printer. If you compare Cyd's outfit in both, it actually looks like 2 slightly different versions of the artwork. The outfit on the uncensored poster looks more detailed, the other a little more simple in its execution, IMO.

Compare her outfit area just above the skirt and on the other. The pattern and art are definitely different.

And notice the blacked out area in the b/w pic to the right, where the one guy is pointing a gun to under the chin of the other. Also censored.

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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on December 08, 2012, 01:50:42 AM
Oooh Miguel. I've bought a couple things from him in the past. In fact I bought my first poster from him.  He's got a nice collection of stuff, but I've found in 90% of the items he has you can find stuff A LOT cheaper than what he lists it for, and like most Italian sellers (although he's in Spain) condition is always based on what you can make out in his usually poor pictures, he gives no detail.  I actually got him as an exception in my eBay searches now so his massive amount of listings don't show up, because it's just not worth wading through all the overpriced stuff.
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Post by: brude on December 08, 2012, 06:28:18 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 07, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Ted, that skirt almost looks like it was printed, doesnt it? Solid black, no seeming evidence of a marker, as the color is consistent-no breaks or areas showing from underneath, and the "ruffled" pattern around the waist, too, makes me think it was added by the printer. If you compare Cyd's outfit in both, it actually looks like 2 slightly different versions of the artwork. The outfit on the uncensored poster looks more detailed, the other a little more simple in its execution, IMO.

Compare her outfit area just above the skirt and on the other. The pattern and art are definitely different.

And notice the blacked out area in the b/w pic to the right, where the one guy is pointing a gun to under the chin of the other. Also censored.



I think the inconsistencies in the design of her outfit are due to Miguel's poor photo. 
The black does look awfully smooth, almost printed.  Just a mess of a defaced poster.
Only thing missing are some snipes, which most of you guys seem to like.  wynk
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2012, 12:46:30 PM
Quote from: brude on December 08, 2012, 06:28:18 AM
I think the inconsistencies in the design of her outfit are due to Miguel's poor photo.  
The black does look awfully smooth, almost printed.  Just a mess of a defaced poster.
Only thing missing are some snipes, which most of you guys seem to like.  wynk

Probably so, Ted. This is not one of Benito's best photos. Looks a bit blown out, too.

But this is a cool comparison, showing how posters are often altered, to protect the innocent  :P  and those with "delicate dispositions."  wynk


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Post by: erik1925 on December 10, 2012, 01:41:44 PM
I was perusing ebay UK and came across this very rare beauty. A UK 6sh (similar in size to a US 3sh) for the first release of SON OF FRANKENSTEIN.

It looks amazing. From the descrip, the area  from the top of Rathbone's name and up (meaning Karloff's face) has all been re-created, based on a pressbook image. Studio C looked to do a terrific job, tho! Better that, than nothing at all, IMO.  clap

BIN price £40,000.00 (obo)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290827659219?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-first-release-Son-of-Frankenstein-U-K-6Sht-/00/s/MTYwMFg4MzA=/$(KGrHqNHJEIFCdk2Bh2HBQw)j5iGUg~~60_58.JPG)


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Post by: CSM on December 10, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Doesn't Mr. Waines have the bottom portion with the faces as well?
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Post by: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 10, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Doesn't Mr. Waines have the bottom portion with the faces as well?

Paul has faces in his bottom portion?  :D
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Post by: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: TheAnswerMVP2001 on December 08, 2012, 01:50:42 AM
Oooh Miguel. I've bought a couple things from him in the past. In fact I bought my first poster from him.  He's got a nice collection of stuff, but I've found in 90% of the items he has you can find stuff A LOT cheaper than what he lists it for, and like most Italian sellers (although he's in Spain) condition is always based on what you can make out in his usually poor pictures, he gives no detail.  I actually got him as an exception in my eBay searches now so his massive amount of listings don't show up, because it's just not worth wading through all the overpriced stuff.

He's got one I really, really want...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on December 10, 2012, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
He's got one I really, really want...

Tell me what you want, what you really really want...
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Post by: erik1925 on December 10, 2012, 01:54:11 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
He's got one I really, really want...

Me, too, Matias.  wynk


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Post by: CSM on December 10, 2012, 01:55:16 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:50:21 PM
Paul has faces in his bottom portion?  :D

Hey, who am I to judge?  ;)
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Post by: brude on December 10, 2012, 01:56:32 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 10, 2012, 01:46:32 PM
Doesn't Mr. Waines have the bottom portion with the faces as well?

If I remember correctly, Mr. Waines was advising the owner of this SOF poster on the restoration process.
Came out very nice, indeed.
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Post by: 110x75 on December 10, 2012, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on December 10, 2012, 01:53:59 PM
Tell me what you want, what you really really want...

 moron1
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Post by: paul waines on December 10, 2012, 02:00:45 PM
You remember quite correctly as always Ted, I sent some pics over of Boris from the film, to help with the work as there's no known image of this poster other than the press-book.

Matias, I need to keep an eye on you.... ;)
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on December 11, 2012, 07:46:59 AM
A lovely 'Twin Towers' Oceans Eleven advance one sheet. ;D

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OCEANS-11-RARE-2001-TWIN-TOWER-ADVANCE-DS-US-1-SHEET-GEORGE-CLOONEY-/230894899325?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4080215929060384909%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230894899325%26

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 11, 2012, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: Hallucination Generation on December 11, 2012, 07:46:59 AM
A lovely 'Twin Towers' Oceans Eleven advance one sheet. ;D

Twin Towers???
buddy.. that ain't no WTC

 puke
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on December 11, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 11, 2012, 05:06:40 PM
Twin Towers???
buddy.. that ain't no WTC

 puke

I told the guy that it came out 3 months after the towers fell and why the 'twin towers' would be on a poster for a film based in Las Vegas but he's not convinced. ;D  He thinks the date is 12th July 2001!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 11, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
Well if he can make the sale - blame the buyer too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Hallucination Generation on December 11, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 11, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
Well if he can make the sale - blame the buyer too!

Exactly. It draws attention to it even if it's wrong.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 12, 2012, 02:12:29 AM
the seller is using crass commercialism to capitalize on a tragedy.
another asshole
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Post by: Bruce on December 12, 2012, 07:31:20 AM
I wonder if Thierry would consider including THIS poster in his Spielberg collection?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/argentinean_codfish_JC06356_L.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2807545 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2807545)
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Post by: 110x75 on December 12, 2012, 07:35:40 AM
Bruce, I noticed that one, and another poster printed in Argentina, but written in portuguese (surely to be used in Brazil). Nice!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 12, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
Is Curly Kong Ken Schacter or somebody connected to him? I've bought stuff from him before and was pretty sure it was Ken.

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/ThisGun.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on December 12, 2012, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 12, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
Is Curly Kong Ken Schacter or somebody connected to him? I've bought stuff from him before and was pretty sure it was Ken.

Yes, it is Ken. Looks like he is offering several of the pieces that he first offered on MoPo earlier this year:http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/msg49739.html (http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/msg49739.html)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 12, 2012, 06:19:26 PM
I assume it's legal since the posters the trustee possesses far exceed his debt.
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Post by: crowzilla on December 12, 2012, 08:28:26 PM
If they were consigned to him it would be legal no matter what his debt might be.
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Post by: Ari on December 14, 2012, 02:45:17 AM
Bargain for Chris

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aust-Daybill-1959-The-Mummy-Hammer-Film-/281037972214?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item416f2b22f6

He also has a curse of frank for half the price,

Two hammer daybills can be yours for under  a grand.
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Post by: CSM on December 14, 2012, 09:53:58 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 14, 2012, 02:45:17 AM
Bargain for Chris

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aust-Daybill-1959-The-Mummy-Hammer-Film-/281037972214?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item416f2b22f6

He also has a curse of frank for half the price,

Two hammer daybills can be yours for under  a grand.


Good thing we both already have both (and we didn't spend anywhere near a grand combined)
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Post by: Ari on December 14, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
Shit yeah, no poster price police gonna have to take us in.
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Post by: CSM on December 14, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 14, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
Shit yeah, no poster price police gonna have to take us in.

F the police!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on December 14, 2012, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 14, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
F the police!

Aussiez With Attitude
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 21, 2012, 12:26:03 AM
I'm winning!  Woo-hoo....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Matrix-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on December 30, 2012, 03:08:18 AM
Was shown this today thanks shit I have it

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1964-Aust-OS-The-Curse-of-the-Mummys-Tomb-Hammer-Film-/281044596180?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item416f9035d4#ht_965wt_689

For Chris maybe a.
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Post by: CSM on December 30, 2012, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 30, 2012, 03:08:18 AM
Was shown this today thanks shit I have it

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1964-Aust-OS-The-Curse-of-the-Mummys-Tomb-Hammer-Film-/281044596180?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item416f9035d4#ht_965wt_689

For Chris maybe a.

Yeah a little pricey Ari and Georgy boy can be hard to deal with sometimes...
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 31, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
Ha Ha Ha!!!  Is this the first instance in all of film poster history that another country re-used Australian artwork?

AUSTRALIAN
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1964-Aust-OS-The-Curse-of-the-Mummys-Tomb-Hammer-Film-/281044596180?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item416f9035d4#ht_894wt_923

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTM5/$(KGrHqVHJEYFDLiC6Y95BQ3-U9HH+g~~60_3.JPG)


ARGENTINE
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CURSE-OF-THE-MUMMYS-TOMB-original-Argentine-one-sheet-HORROR-movie-poster-1964-/290838169627?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b74e481b

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CURSE-OF-THE-MUMMYS-TOMB-original-Argentine-one-sheet-HORROR-movie-poster-1964-/00/s/MTMwMlg4NjQ=/$(KGrHqZ,!ioFCj1nzu(wBQwUevPu3g~~60_57.JPG)


Sorry, I couldn't resist...  ;)
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Post by: Ari on January 01, 2013, 01:26:05 AM


http://www.aussieposters.com/quentin-tarantino/

 :-X spew rofl1 laugh1 uhno nono hitself mesmrized puke2
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Post by: Matt on January 01, 2013, 01:29:41 AM
Brian obviously doesn't want to sell it. wynk
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Post by: brude on January 01, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
"Just $10,000."
What a bargain.
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Post by: CJ138 on January 01, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Anyone seen this before?!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ALIEN-VHS-RELEASE-POSTER-1980-81-NUMBERED-/251207671031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d24dcf7
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 01, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: CJ138 on January 01, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Anyone seen this before?!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ALIEN-VHS-RELEASE-POSTER-1980-81-NUMBERED-/251207671031?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7d24dcf7

I have, but this is mostly hyperbole:
"This a limited edition with only 10,000 made ( this one is marked 1728 0f 10,000) newer posters are made by the millions."
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Post by: Charlie on January 01, 2013, 08:38:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 01, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
I have, but this is mostly hyperbole:
"This a limited edition with only 10,000 made ( this one is marked 1728 0f 10,000) newer posters are made by the millions."

That's about par with the Dark Knight Mondo Print...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 01, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: Charlie on January 01, 2013, 08:38:40 PM
That's about par with the Dark Knight Mondo Print...

do you think 10,000 is rare?

and what about this lie:
newer posters are made by the millions."
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Post by: Silhouette on January 01, 2013, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 01, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
do you think 10,000 is rare?

and what about this lie:
newer posters are made by the millions."


10,000 is rare in my bank account.

Given there is an estimated 60,000 movie theatres in the English speaking world, and assuming "by the millions" he means 2million and let's assume every time a movie comes out every single one of these theatres in the English speaking world screen that movie and to ensure they get maximum exposure for that movie they all order PLENTY of movie posters...then sure, 33 posters per movie title per picture theatre all at once makes perfect sense.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
David, 60,000 theatres mostly means 5000 locations with 10+ screens where only one screen shows the film.

Also, general print runs on big releases may be 50,000 posters. I'm sure Dale Dilts or Jason would have a more updated estimate of prints runs than I.

10,000 of something in this business is common, meaning everybody who wants one can have one or more copies.
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Post by: Silhouette on January 02, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
David, 60,000 theatres mostly means 5000 locations with 10+ screens where only one screen shows the film.

Also, general print runs on big releases may be 50,000 posters. I'm sure Dale Dilts or Jason would have a more updated estimate of prints runs than I.

10,000 of something in this business is common, meaning everybody who wants one can have one or more copies.

I was being sarcastic about the seller's use of the truth not judging your statement.

and 10,000 is still rare in my bank account...rare to see it ever get that low  laugh1

And I partied too long on the 31st, still tired at 4.30pm on the 2nd to continue. Time for a Nana Sleep...
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Post by: Ari on January 02, 2013, 12:33:08 AM
Sarcasm +America= ?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2013, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on January 02, 2013, 12:29:50 AM
I was being sarcastic about the seller's use of the truth not judging your statement.

and 10,000 is still rare in my bank account...rare to see it ever get that low  laugh1

And I partied too long on the 31st, still tired at 4.30pm on the 2nd to continue. Time for a Nana Sleep...

Richie spin, twirl.........
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Post by: Charlie on January 02, 2013, 07:15:20 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 01, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
do you think 10,000 is rare?

and what about this lie:
newer posters are made by the millions."



Nope..  Something like 5 known copies is rare to me and proofs and errors don't count..
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 02, 2013, 04:35:09 PM
Quote from: Charlie on January 02, 2013, 07:15:20 AM

Nope..  Something like 5 known copies is rare to me and proofs and errors don't count..

5 known copies isn't rare, that is ultra-rare.
I know there was a discussion about this before... most people think 25-50 is rare
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Post by: Charlie on January 02, 2013, 04:49:12 PM
I think the major problem in assuming any sort of rarity is you can only know what you know...  I think it is easy to say that there are a lot of posters that always show up in signature / mini/major / etc. auctions...  If they are so rare, why are they always so available?  
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Post by: CSM on January 03, 2013, 12:26:03 AM
UGH - this is like arguing over if the Pawn Stars shop is crotch-to-crotch packed or only crotch-to-ass packed  eyeroll
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 03, 2013, 12:32:21 AM
Quote from: CSM on January 03, 2013, 12:26:03 AM
...or only crotch-to-ass packed  eyeroll

That's referred to as "butts to nuts" where I'm from!
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Post by: CSM on January 03, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on January 03, 2013, 12:32:21 AM
That's referred to as "butts to nuts" where I'm from!

Truthfully, I just wanted to keep the crotch theme going
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on January 03, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
I just looked up "butts to nuts" in the urban dictionary and apparently (in addition to referring to a crowded venue) it also means to dudes riding on a motorcycle! 
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Post by: Silhouette on January 03, 2013, 12:37:27 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on January 03, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
I just looked up "butts to nuts" in the urban dictionary and apparently (in addition to referring to a crowded venue) it also means to dudes riding on a motorcycle! 

 laugh1

There goes the neighbourhood
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Post by: CSM on January 03, 2013, 12:55:52 AM
I am too smart to google "butts to nuts" at this time
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Post by: crowzilla on January 03, 2013, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 31, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
Ha Ha Ha!!!  Is this the first instance in all of film poster history that another country re-used Australian artwork?

It would have to be the first, wouldn't it? Imagine the level despair you must be in before deciding the only option you have was to re-use Australian DB artwork..shudder...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on January 08, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
What the hell?  Does everything I've been looking for have to come up in the same damn month?!?!
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Post by: holiday on January 08, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
Every time I see a Melancholia B1 I wanna puke...    puke2
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Post by: Tob on January 24, 2013, 10:37:14 AM
Skyfall Imax poster
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2843082

vs

Skyfall Imax poster
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SKYFALL-IMAX-13X20-PROMO-MOVIE-POSTER-/150984529513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2327611669
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on January 24, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
I learned this the hard way - to check ebay against what I'm bidding on elsewhere.  I learned the lesson just like this bidder will soon enough.
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Post by: Tob on January 24, 2013, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: holiday on January 24, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
I learned this the hard way - to check ebay against what I'm bidding on elsewhere.  I learned the lesson just like this bidder will soon enough.

Yep, been in those shoes myself too!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 07:12:36 PM
If my calculations are correct....
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Post by: holiday on January 24, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
Mel's the one I learned it from, by way of example showing me what I could have paid and what I did.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 07:12:36 PM
If my calculations are correct....

Just a matter of time before the serious bidders emerge...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 07:12:36 PM
If my calculations are correct....

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Just a matter of time before the serious bidders emerge...

Three way fight!  Who's gonna jump in?
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Post by: guest8 on January 24, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
Thats just nuts!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 24, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
And thus it ends....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-01/BTTF2.jpg)

Started off today at $5:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-01/BTTF3.jpg)
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Post by: Neo on January 24, 2013, 09:58:43 PM
Congrats to Sedric68!  cheers
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Post by: 110x75 on January 24, 2013, 09:58:55 PM
 :o
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on January 24, 2013, 09:58:55 PM
:o

For sure, Matias.   ;)

$840.00 for a commercial (and more scarce) poster.

Amazing!




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Post by: 110x75 on January 24, 2013, 10:10:59 PM
Surely our friend Neo here has his motives for bidding that high (as we all have ours, when bidding in stuff we desire). As most of you know, I like old paper, that why the  :o
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Post by: Charlie on January 24, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
WTF? for a sequel...  Neo explain it to me!
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Post by: eatbrie on January 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
This is actually a fair price for this poster.  I cannot tell you how many people have asked me if I would sell mine.  Over the year, at least 20.  I was offered $1,000 at some point.  There was a guy on this forum (can't remember his name now) who was desperately trying to find one.  They are EXTREMELY rare, and for any BTTF fans, an absolute must have, probably even more so than any other BTTF posters.  I had it on my watch list and was going to buy another one if it didn't go above $300.  But it did, and I actually forgot about today's sale.  I went jogging instead.

T
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Post by: Neo on January 24, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
I saw BTTF2 in the theater when I was a young'un, and it's one of my favorite movies, and I like cars, and time-traveling.  8)  This poster is a great representation of the movie.
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Post by: Ari on January 25, 2013, 12:48:01 AM
So whoever bought my BTTF vays site video one sheet for ten bucks prob is happy.
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Post by: Simes on January 25, 2013, 05:18:09 AM
Quote from: Tob on January 24, 2013, 10:37:14 AM
Skyfall Imax poster
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2843082

vs

Skyfall Imax poster
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SKYFALL-IMAX-13X20-PROMO-MOVIE-POSTER-/150984529513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2327611669

Jesus!  Just nuts.

Doesn't bode well for a 'deal' for other such posters as it seems there are buyers attracted entirely by Bruce's well deserved service to the total exclusion of sense.
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Post by: marklawd on January 25, 2013, 05:32:27 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
This is actually a fair price for this poster....  There was a guy on this forum...who was desperately trying to find one.  They are EXTREMELY rare, and for any BTTF fans, an absolute must have, probably even more so than any other BTTF posters.....
T

There were TWO guys trying to find one. Joneyyy......and myself. A couple of years ago Joneyyy acquired two and sold me one. Bruce under-promoted this exceedingly rare poster in his description and it languished at the $6 level for days. I couldn't overlook a bargain and bid up to $400. This poster from the beloved film series prominently features the De Lorean - and has one of the greatest taglines on a modern poster. Whilst it is non-theatrical it was not possible to purchase it either because of the financial troubles of the marketing company responsible for selling it and most were rumoured to have been destroyed. Given the cross-over appeal to the BTTF fan base and modern movie poster collectors I agree with Thierry that the price was reasonable.

Mark
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 25, 2013, 05:34:12 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 24, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
This is actually a fair price for this poster.  I cannot tell you how many people have asked me if I would sell mine.  Over the year, at least 20.  I was offered $1,000 at some point.  There was a guy on this forum (can't remember his name now) who was desperately trying to find one.  They are EXTREMELY rare, and for any BTTF fans, an absolute must have, probably even more so than any other BTTF posters.  I had it on my watch list and was going to buy another one if it didn't go above $300.  But it did, and I actually forgot about today's sale.  I went jogging instead.

T

Straight on. Cinemasterpieces (and the like) would have no problem selling this for $3,000.  I've had this poster in the Rare showcase on MPC (http://moviepostercollectors.com/Showcases.html) forever.  I spotted this last week and was pretty sure it would not "slip under the radar" even though it was not promoted.  

I think the price was slightly suppressed because three of these have popped up for sale in the last couple of years.  I know Jon found 2 and another one sold on Ebay.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-01/BTTF4.jpeg)
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Post by: Bruce on January 25, 2013, 06:06:23 AM
Like Mel says, the buyer got it for less than one-third of the Cinemasterpieces price!

There are always bargains and real steals in eMoviePoster.com auctions!
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 25, 2013, 09:28:30 AM
While rare, the last batch that hit the market have sold for 200 and 300 respectfully, so 800+ is quite a jump in market from where they had been selling.

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Post by: erik1925 on January 25, 2013, 01:54:33 PM
I contacted the bttf.com site, inquiring about their sales of this poster. I just got a reply from them. A few years ago, they had acquired 5 copies. They sold out almost immediately.

Their listed sales price was $199.88

http://www.bttf.net/Roads_Advance_poster_25_x38_p/advance-c.htm

And, naturally, other sellers can list this poster at whatever price they want. It doesn't necessarily mean it will ever sell at that price.


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Post by: eatbrie on January 25, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
I got mine in 2008 for $155.51 on Ebay.  The runner-up was the owner of BTTF.com.  But that was before the poster was posted all over the place on forums and gained in popularity.  This poster could have easily crossed $1k if it had been listed among OSs, and not among travel posters.

T

BTW, BTTF.com hasn't had this poster for sale in at least 5 or 6 years.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 25, 2013, 02:59:38 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 25, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
I got mine in 2008 for $155.51 on Ebay.  The runner-up was the owner of BTTF.com.  But that was before the poster was posted all over the place on forums and gained in popularity.  This poster could have easily crossed $1k if it had been listed among OSs, and not among travel posters.

T

BTW, BTTF.com hasn't had this poster for sale in at least 5 or 6 years.

I guess bttf's "several years" response = 5-6 years.

It's always that vague definition of what "several" means. LOL

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Post by: eatbrie on January 25, 2013, 03:06:48 PM
There are very few copies of this poster.  BTTF.com got a batch.  I tried to get it from the site, but missed.  I got mine a couple years later and was surprised to see the owner of BTTF.com in the running.  I don't think he realized what he had when he sold them on his site.  Heck, I didn't even know about them until then, and I've been collecting BTTF for quite some time.  Truth be told, though, that's how posters gain in value.  The fact that we're talking about it now is increasing its value.  The next one will be even harder to get.  Lur-kers are probably noticing.

T
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 25, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
I'm just gonna go to kinko's print my own, single sided 25"x39" so I wouldnt recommend buying anymore now  ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 25, 2013, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 25, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
I'm just gonna go to kinko's print my own, single sided 25"x39" so I wouldnt recommend buying anymore now  ;)

I want to use one for a dartboard
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Post by: brude on January 26, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 25, 2013, 03:20:28 PM
I'm just gonna go to kinko's print my own, single sided 25"x39" so I wouldnt recommend buying anymore now  ;)

 laugh1

Good thinking, man.
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Post by: CSM on January 26, 2013, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 10:03:24 PM
For sure, Matias.   ;)

$840.00 for a commercial (and more scarce) poster.

Amazing!






I dunno about amazing but it's something!
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Post by: CSM on January 26, 2013, 06:02:39 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 25, 2013, 09:28:30 AM
While rare, the last batch that hit the market have sold for 200 and 300 respectfully, so 800+ is quite a jump in market from where they had been selling.



 clap
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Post by: CSM on January 26, 2013, 06:04:06 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 25, 2013, 03:06:48 PM
Truth be told, though, that's how posters gain in value.  The fact that we're talking about it now is increasing its value.  The next one will be even harder to get.  Lur-kers are probably noticing.

T

Too bad you have a selling moratorium eh?  ;)
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Post by: wonka on January 29, 2013, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 25, 2013, 06:06:23 AM
Like Mel says, the buyer got it for less than one-third of the Cinemasterpieces price!

So they paid a more realistic price then...or is Dave's prices the standard guide now?
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Post by: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 26, 2013, 06:04:06 PM
Too bad you have a selling moratorium eh?  ;)

It is not a selling moratorium, Chris.  It is about the fact that I'm fucking lazy and refuse to deal with the US post office.  I also don't want to dig into my piles, pull out stuff, tube it, write labels and other shit like that.  I could sell a lot of my stuff, especially all the doubles, but it is waaaaay too time consuming.  Plus, since I'm baked half the time, I would probably send stuff to wrong addresses.

T
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Post by: wonka on January 29, 2013, 11:48:52 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
 Plus, since I'm baked half the time, I would probably send stuff to wrong addresses.

T
Really appreciate you revealing this because now I understand 85% of your posts.

 :)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:50:15 PM
French and baked... nice combo!

 cheers
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Post by: wonka on January 29, 2013, 11:53:12 PM
French fry!
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Post by: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
French, baked, drunk and liberal.  That's me right now.  Can you beat it?
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Post by: wonka on January 30, 2013, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:55:33 PM
French, baked, drunk and liberal.  That's me right now.  Can you beat it?

Nope. You got me. Congrats!
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Post by: CSM on January 30, 2013, 12:12:31 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
It is not a selling moratorium, Chris.  It is about the fact that I'm fucking lazy and refuse to deal with the US post office.  I also don't want to dig into my piles, pull out stuff, tube it, write labels and other shit like that.  I could sell a lot of my stuff, especially all the doubles, but it is waaaaay too time consuming.  Plus, since I'm baked half the time, I would probably send stuff to wrong addresses.

T

Did your wife write this?  Maybe one of your dogs?  Are you being held hostage?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 30, 2013, 02:14:46 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:50:15 PM
....baked... ....
 cheers

m-effer isn't even sharin'......
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Post by: erik1925 on February 03, 2013, 07:49:45 PM


BIN - $3850.00    :o

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5464/8412381612_3175c35881_b.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Martin-Ansin-PHANTOM-OF-THE-OPERA-Red-Metallic-VARIANT-Mondo-poster-print-RARE-/300851898732?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item460c2ba96c



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Post by: wonka on February 03, 2013, 08:52:10 PM
^ Last two that sold (of the metal variant) were $3250 and $3700, so with a BIN option, this is priced around the last two realized sales.
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Post by: CSM on February 03, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
"Does not ship to Canada"

Gee am I ever disappointed about that
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Post by: Silhouette on February 03, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 03, 2013, 09:07:48 PM
"Does not ship to Canada"

Gee am I ever disappointed about that

Does not ship outside of USA; another lazy seller, it's not like USA is the only place where the suckers are...
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Post by: erik1925 on February 03, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 03, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Does not ship outside of USA; another lazy seller, it's not like USA is the only place where the suckers are...

 cheers
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Post by: wonka on February 03, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 03, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Does not ship outside of USA; another lazy seller, it's not like USA is the only place where the suckers are...
Yeah, I hear the Australians will buy anything.
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Post by: crowzilla on February 04, 2013, 05:27:59 AM
Quote from: wonka on February 03, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
Yeah, I hear the Australians will buy anything.

They prove this daily when they buy those ugly daybills.  ;)

This Phantom sale is amazing to me, as my guess would be the buyers of this (and the other two) are people who would never dream of spending $3000+ on any 1925 Phantom paper (or even 1929 re-release).
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Post by: erik1925 on February 04, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
And the Ansin Phantom listing, shown above, has had 3 offers; all have been declined.    nono


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Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
This a great print, though, in my top 3 for sure.  I still own 2% of the print run (2 prints out of 100, one variant, one reg) but I used to own 4% :(  Way too expensive, IMO, but t'll be interesting to see if it sells.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 04, 2013, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 04, 2013, 05:27:59 AM
They prove this daily when they buy those ugly daybills.  ;)

This Phantom sale is amazing to me, as my guess would be the buyers of this (and the other two) are people who would never dream of spending $3000+ on any 1925 Phantom paper (or even 1929 re-release).

so right on this
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Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 04, 2013, 02:45:18 PM
so right on this

Not really.

Believe it or not, a bunch of collectors swing both ways in collecting vintage movie paper and these *evil* screen prints from Mondo and other places.

Holiday (at least used to), myself, Schan, Cj, Thierry, Mel, etc...collect or have collected Mondo et. al to varying degrees and would go ape shit over original Phantom material.

Although, Sean brings up a good point in what is perceived about Mondo collectors.
What is funny/interesting is how pure collectors of the modern screen print (Mondo, gig, etc....), especially the folks on EB have pigeon holed movie poster collectors in terms of what they will and will not collect and so on.

Both parties are wrong.
As Ari would say 'buy what you like'.
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Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 04, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
And the Ansin Phantom listing, shown above, has had 3 offers; all have been declined.    nono




How do you know what those offers were?

So funny to see this auction discussed as blasphemous in regards to price and shipping, yet 90% of the bullshit auctions on ebay are overlooked in this thread in terms of the bullshit meter going off cause you know, at least those are pure blood movie posters and actually worth collecting.

PS. Ask Holiday how much he appreciated the demand for his Phantom when he cashed it in for under 3k for needed car repairs.
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 04, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
Phantom will be the first Mondo print to hit $5K, give it another year.

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Post by: Zorba on February 04, 2013, 05:26:04 PM
Phantom will not be the first mondo in my collection.  :P

As far as Im concerned anyone can buy anything they like. Just look at the vast majority of my stuff. I have it cause no else wanted it.  ;D
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Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 07:00:45 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on February 04, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
Phantom will be the first Mondo print to hit $5K, give it another year.



So ridiculous.  We go on and on debating how many copies exist of certain posters...

Now tell me how confident are you mondo collectors that there are REALLY only 100 of these?  Why have so much faith in an item that was purposely made as a 'limited collectors item'?
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Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 07:09:17 PM
Mainly because they are numbered.  A lot of people who collect prints have seen my print collection (http://www.eatbrie.com/Mondo.htm).  I have posted it on this forum, on the Ansin page on FB, on the Stout page, etc.  Since I write down the print # of the prints I personally own (and others have done the same) I guarantee you that if someone had an identical number, it would be known.  This said, there are always a few extras depending on the print.  These are artist prints and are usually numbered AP + whatever the artist got for sale.  But on the initial print run, it is what it is.

T
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 04, 2013, 08:11:43 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 07:09:17 PM
This said, there are always a few extras depending on the print.  These are artist prints and are usually numbered AP + whatever the artist got for sale.  But on the initial print run, it is what it is.

T

Speaking of... if APs exist for Mondo posters, it sounds like someone smart actually told these guys to hang onto them for a while.  It would be great if the artists can benefit from these after-market prices at some point.
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Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 04, 2013, 08:11:43 PM
Speaking of... if APs exist for Mondo posters, it sounds like someone smart actually told these guys to hang onto them for a while.  It would be great if the artists can benefit from these after-market prices at some point.

All they have to do is print more
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 04, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
Touche
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Post by: erik1925 on February 04, 2013, 09:07:26 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 04:49:23 PM
How do you know what those offers were?

So funny to see this auction discussed as blasphemous in regards to price and shipping, yet 90% of the bullshit auctions on ebay are overlooked in this thread in terms of the bullshit meter going off cause you know, at least those are pure blood movie posters and actually worth collecting.

PS. Ask Holiday how much he appreciated the demand for his Phantom when he cashed it in for under 3k for needed car repairs.

 I dont know what the offers were. I said that 3 had been offered this seller and that all 3 had been declined. This is easily viewable on the ebay listing page.  ;)


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Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 04, 2013, 08:11:43 PM
Speaking of... if APs exist for Mondo posters, it sounds like someone smart actually told these guys to hang onto them for a while.  It would be great if the artists can benefit from these after-market prices at some point.

HC, from what I understand, some artists elect to pass on the Mondo check (or maybe take less up front at least) in exchange for selling a certain number of their APs. This number is usually not that high, it depends on the run of the inital print. For example, Durieux sold a handful of Jaws APs for $150 recently, which is a fair price. Many artists who do sell their APs will price theirs higher than the original drop price but less than the ebay going rate. I think it is a good system...Olly Moss seems to do well this way, and I prefer to purchase APs directly from the artists, but it is usually MUCH harder to go that route vs. the Mondo drop as a collector/buyer obviously.

Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
All they have to do is print more

Chris, give it up already my man. That is cool you don't collect and hate Mondo, we get it.
At least do a quick fact check instead of believing your own assumptions.

As T said, these are numbered and the edition is presented before the drop, that is how one knows how many there are. These aren't like regular movie posters...but you knew that already.

Mondo has never printed more and never will. They have repeatedly said this.

Quote from: erik1925 on February 04, 2013, 09:07:26 PM
I dont know what the offers were. I said that 3 had been offered this seller and that all 3 had been declined. This is easily viewable on the ebay listing page.  ;)

So what?
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Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 09:29:45 PM

Chris, give it up already my man. That is cool you don't collect and hate Mondo, we get it.
At least do a quick fact check instead of believing your own assumptions.


But you do get that their desirability is artificially produced right?  And how is one to know all 100 of the print run were actually sold to the public?

Who's to say or prove that 10, 20 or 25 aren't held back by the printers waiting to be unleashed once they get into $3,500 territory? 

It's a suckers game that can be manipulated in so many ways (of course in my opinion)...
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Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 09:36:40 PM
Ben, I can't remember now, did I trade one of my Phantom's to you?  I know I traded a variant and a reg., but I can't remember to whom.  I got my Leon print for one of them... that's all I know.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
Who's to say or prove that 10, 20 or 25 aren't held back by the printers waiting to be unleashed once they get into $3,500 territory? 

Don't know, don't care, and if someone does, more power to them.  I get my prints at the initial price and value means nitchs to me.

T
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Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 09:39:16 PM
Two Mondos make a right? http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28512

Oh a print run remaining of maybe 10 if I am liberal with it...  
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Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 09:40:46 PM
3.5 Mondos make awesome?

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=667&lotNo=29189
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Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 09:42:19 PM
The Print Run makes fucking awesome?  Mondo, what a joke...

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695&lotNo=85729
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Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Don't know, don't care, and if someone does, more power to them.  I get my prints at the initial price and value means nitchs to me.

T

So when you trade these Thierry you don't take "monetary value" into account in any way?
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Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Don't know, don't care, and if someone does, more power to them.  I get my prints at the initial price and value means nitchs to me.

T

Liar!  You wouldn't track the value if you didn't care...  Plus it's nice to see your stuff appreciate even if you won't sell it...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:42:35 PM
So when you trade these Thierry you don't take "monetary value" into account in any way?

No, not really.  I mean, I traded a Phantom for a Leon print.  The Phantom was worth much more money, but I really wanted that Leon print and I didn't know how to get it, so the Leon print was worth more to me.  Plus, I only paid $60 for my 2 Phantoms reg and $100 for my 2 variants, so it was a win-win.  I don't regret the transaction at all.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 10:00:03 PM
Dammit! There is something on Heritage I am going to have to bid on...  

It is this belief in a power larger than myself and other than myself, which allows me to venture into the unknown and even the unknowable.

30 day shipping here we go - fcuk!  Bruce go rob them corporate bastards and list it for me...
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Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
But you do get that their desirability is artificially produced right?  And how is one to know all 100 of the print run were actually sold to the public?

Who's to say or prove that 10, 20 or 25 aren't held back by the printers waiting to be unleashed once they get into $3,500 territory? 

It's a suckers game that can be manipulated in so many ways (of course in my opinion)...

Chris, again, you are just really off base.
Go on EB and tell those guys that the Mondo (heck all the pop culture prints and art prints) desirability is artificially produced. They would laugh you out of town...it is really astonishing, to suppose this.

Thierry, you traded yours to Fallen/David, not me.
BTW, Fallen is asking 4k for his other Phantom. You guys can mock him too...but one day he will probably get it, if not more as Dale pointed out.

Charlie...not even sure what to say to you. Use a mask when handling your chemicals..? I don't know..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
Liar!  You wouldn't track the value if you didn't care...  Plus it's nice to see your stuff appreciate even if you won't sell it...

I really don't know how to answer this without sounding like a spoiled brat, but I can honestly tell you, Charlie, that I don't care about the value of my prints or my posters.  Neither does Holiday or other collectors I know.  It is just a hobby, nothing else, nothing more.  I'm a completist at heart, I have always been, and this is what collecting is to me.  Owning everything about an actor or a director I respect is where the fun is.  Not the monetary value of a stupid print.  Of course, it's fun to see something you spent $40 on sell for $3,000 a few years later, but just for a minute.  If you want to make money, posters are really NOT the way to go.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 10:05:27 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
Charlie...not even sure what to say to you. Use a mask when handling your chemicals..? I don't know..

How about: 'very insightful - to think that two re-imagined Phantom prints in the modern era would ever be worth an original 1925 window card'... 'Imagine the idiocracy that if 3 idiots paid that price for three of the variants they could have an original 1925 insert'  man if them dumb bastards only knew that them beanie baby prints they are sitting on could be sold to buy originals - wow...  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 04, 2013, 10:05:27 PM
How about: 'very insightful - to think that two re-imagined Phantom prints in the modern era would ever be worth an original 1925 window card'... 'Imagine the idiocracy that if 3 idiots paid that price for three of the variants they could have an original 1925 insert'  man if them dumb bastards only knew that them beanie baby prints they are sitting on could be sold to buy originals - wow...  :P

You're assuming people like what you, and most folks here, like. People pay money for things every day I will never understand, but to each his own.
Isn't that crazy?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:08:03 PM
You're assuming people like what you, and most folks here, like. People pay money for things every day I will never understand, but to each his own.
Isn't that crazy?

Well put.  And I don't see the parallel here.  Just because someone likes the design of Ansin's Phantom doesn't mean they care about 1) the movie and 2) posters from the movie.  It is really 2 different things.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:00:59 PM
Chris, again, you are just really off base.
Go on EB and tell those guys that the Mondo (heck all the pop culture prints and art prints) desirability is artificially produced. They would laugh you out of town...it is really astonishing, to suppose this.


With all due respect Ben I don't give two shits what people think on EB.  Are they some sort of all knowing, all determining committee?  Do they consider themselves the keepers of the Mondo/pop art print catalogue raisonne?  If so, that's quite a sad claim to fame.

They can laugh all they want - they are the suckers not me (in my opinion).  But I have to ask - why do you hold them and their opinions in such high esteem?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 04, 2013, 10:19:10 PM
Ben, at the same time you think Chris & Charlie (and me, because I'm in the same camp) are offbase believing Mondos could nosedive, you are equally offbase thinking they cannot. The facts are that the top of any market is ruled by a small few people. When even one of them stops buying (for whatever reason from loss of interest to divorce to death etc) it has a negative effect on that market. There is also something called "a correction". We saw a "correction" most recently in the housing market, but it is hardly the only place

Last year a Dracula 1sh sold for half of the previous sale. Since a 1sh for This Gun For Hire sold at 50k, numerous copies have been unable to break 25k (and even 20k). Universal horror posters - the Crown Jewel of the hobby for most people - are not automatic sellers anymore and especially not for the prices they sold back in 2006-2008.

Time will tell, but my money (if we were gambling) would be against Mondos maintaining a long term market without price corrections and if the collectors and dealers resist correcting prices in an attempt to try to maintain value in a  falling investment , it will only be an additional drag on that market when that time comes.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:34:41 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
With all due respect Ben I don't give two shits what people think on EB.  Are they some sort of all knowing, all determining committee?  Do they consider themselves the keepers of the Mondo/pop art print catalogue raisonne?  If so, that's quite a sad claim to fame.

They can laugh all they want - they are the suckers not me (in my opinion).  But I have to ask - why do you hold them and their opinions in such high esteem?

Chris, I didn't phrase my argument correctly then. EB, APF, the Sailboat forum...its all internet groupthink, and none of it matters to be sure.

My point, to be made clearer now hopefully, is that those guys are the ones who are really into that niche market of collecting, so they know more about this than you do. It would be like if those guys went off about daybills in a manner they had no idea what the heck they were talking about. Folks like you would (perhaps) step in, and wonder aloud what they were even basing their argument on.

What I don't understand is why you, and others, constantly sneer at Mondo stuff, yet it keeps selling out, drop after drop (including bad ones) and values of certain pieces keep going up and up. So there is a demand for it, and people want it. What does it matter, and why is that so offensive?
Seriously?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:41:32 PM
Rich, your post is a good one and well taken. I see what you are saying, and do not necessarily disagree.

I am not saying Mondo stuff will nosedive or necessarily keep going up. It may, or it may not, just like posters you guys revere.

What I am saying is that there is an undeniable demand on some Mondo prints, which sales and prices realized.
I don't understand the venom and animosity some of you have towards this stuff.

Also, I think comparing the US housing market to movie paper is a stretch to say the least.

Lastly, I think many screen prints such as Mondo have some sort of a glass ceiling.
I think the average 30 something child of the 80s freaking out about the latest Olly Moss print will splurge on said print because it is attainable, despite being a financial stretch for them at say $500. However, that price is almost beneath the high brow movie poster community...the buyers with big pockets.

In other words, I personally expect some prints to hover around what is expensive for the average collector yet not really catch the eye of the D. Cleveland's of the world...so a Tyler Stout Big Trouble in Little China may or may not sit in the $1,500-$2k purgatory for some time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 04, 2013, 10:34:41 PM


What I don't understand is why you, and others, constantly sneer at Mondo stuff, yet it keeps selling out, drop after drop (including bad ones) and values of certain pieces keep going up and up. So there is a demand for it, and people want it. What does it matter, and why is that so offensive?
Seriously?

It's all personal opinion.  People deride daybills, Aussie posters in general and Belgians all the time but I don't get my back up.  I don't care what others think about what I like - which is essentially what you are saying about yourself and the Mondos/art prints (and I respect that).

But I will also speak my mind.  As I have said, my major problem with them is that, to me, they are artificial.  Their apparent scarcity, the various variants, the 'limited' print runs are all done to market them.  There is nothing inherently genuine about them - they are produced to be sold in a frenzy and their initial creation and distribution is controlled by an single entity that just HAS to know their "current market value".  Is it really so wrong to even question integrity when they sell a print for $100 but then see those selling for $3,500 later on?  You think there is no temptation to cash in?  It's only human and anything human should be full of suspicion...

Due to this - I feel there are many, many opportunities for their releases, claimed print runs and future sales (in a sense the market) to be manipulated in nefarious ways by the creators/printers or their close neighbour next door.  It does not take a great deal of imagination to come up with possibilities and I question it very strongly...  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on February 04, 2013, 11:00:51 PM
The Mondo's will go the way of the 90's "concert" posters.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 04, 2013, 11:17:41 PM
okay Ben, now that you agree with what I said, add one more factor that I pointedly did not add to my previous post:

unlike the general poster market, Mondos have an additional aspect of a manipulated market and they are manipulated right from the source. Food for your thought

to comment as an aside.. posters business and housing business not comparable?
business is business when examined strictly at the monetary level.
I was predicting the Vegas housing market would correct (I didn't predict a complete crash though) as early as 2001/2002. Prices here were increasing exponentially and as a businessman, and from historical experience in business, living through numerous boom and bust cycles, I had no problem examining it. All things of a monetary points scale, that are not commodities staples, are subject to extreme price collapse.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mcnail on February 04, 2013, 11:28:53 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 07:00:45 PM
So ridiculous.  We go on and on debating how many copies exist of certain posters...

Now tell me how confident are you mondo collectors that there are REALLY only 100 of these?  Why have so much faith in an item that was purposely made as a 'limited collectors item'?

Hi, I don't know if we've spoken before. I'm Mitch, I'm one of the creative directors at Mondo.
In the end, it comes down to trust. The 'poster collecting community' is a very small one. At most, a few thousand hardcore people care about this stuff on a daily basis. We are also a small company, with around ten employees total. We're not out to screw customers over, or take advantage of rising aftermarket prices. In fact, the highest-selling posters (ie The Thing, Phantom, Olly Star Wars, etc) really happened because we, as a creative team, vastly underestimated the demand on them. We didn't make 100 Phantom of the Opera posters because we wanted them to be worth money in three years. We did it because, at that time, and working with a brand new artist, that's how many we thought we could sell. The number seemed appropriate. We printed fairly low on Olly's Star Wars posters for the same reason (it's hard to remember that Olly wasn't quite THAT huge yet). We don't reprint, we know our printer personally, and we have a team of very trustworthy artists and employees. I'm not saying that you have to love us or our posters, but after years of doing this honestly, please don't cast distrust on us unless we've done something to deserve it.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
Thanks for your insight McNail.

Can I ask why print runs are still kept artificially low when you know there is a greater market for new releases (as witnessed by the post sale collector market results)?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mcnail on February 04, 2013, 11:46:35 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
Thanks for your insight McNail.

Can I ask why print runs are still kept artificially low when you know there is a greater market for new releases (as witnessed by the post sale collector market results)?

We determine editions on a poster-by-poster basis. We want our releases to be collectable, but the goal is never legions of frustrated customers (in some cases where we could probably print a few thousand, we keep the editions relatively low at the artist's or studio's request). We also don't want to produce a poster that is over-printed and that nobody wants. So every release involves some serious huddling over numbers. We can't predict the future though, so we've certainly under-printed and over-printed a number of times. It's a tough thing to figure, and you can probably see that similar companies have similar problems (either underestimating demand or, even more common (and more damaging), printing way too many). We just use our best judgement. Cheers.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 10:50:39 PM
People deride daybills, Aussie posters in general and Belgians all the time but I don't get my back up.

I DO!!!

 puke2
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 04, 2013, 11:54:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
I DO!!!

 puke2

You should try 'em Thierry - pretty easy to frame...oh wait...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 04, 2013, 11:54:15 PM
You should try 'em Thierry - pretty easy to frame...oh wait...

 sm1 wynk

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on February 05, 2013, 12:01:22 AM
It's the size.  I just hate that size.  Which is also why I don't like Locandinas or Belgians.  Plus, I'm not a huge fan of Aussie poster designs in general.  They don't appeal to me.  I find them a little "heavy" for lack of a better word.  It's all in the eye of the beholder.  I don't like Belgians because there is too much writing, titles in French, English, Dutch, Flemish...  Bah, I'm sure some people hate the Grinssons, Soubies or Ballesters of the world.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 05, 2013, 12:05:22 AM
Oh and they're in English too - helps when those uneducated guests come over while keeping the Frenchmen away ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on February 05, 2013, 03:24:12 AM
Btw, Mitch, if you read this, I just received my Durieux Jaws poster and it is a really nice piece.  The colors really pop.  Really nice work.  One of my favorite prints.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on February 05, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
I was an active collector of Mondo posters in the early years and and a loyal supporter of the company. I doubt anyone has a more complete collection of prints for the period 2005 - 2010. But I became cynical of their changing business model and the way they condoned and, dare I say, encouraged speculation and the growth of the secondary market. So, with one or two exceptions, I stopped buying new editions from 2011.

I do not believe there will be an equivalent of a beanie babies collapse in the future because there is an inherent high quality in much of the Mondo product (many critics will have never seen or handled their prints) and of course there are genuinely low numbers of each. However, there will inevitably be price adjustments in the future. This is of little or no consequence to the original purchasers of posters such as Phantom of the Opera who paid $30/$50 but it has to be a concern for someone spending $3500/$4000.

Mark  
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 05, 2013, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: marklawd on February 05, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
I was an active collector of Mondo posters in the early years and and a loyal supporter of the company. I doubt anyone has a more complete collection of prints for the period 2005 - 2010. But I became cynical of their changing business model and the way they condoned and, dare I say, encouraged speculation and the growth of the secondary market. So, with one or two exceptions, I stopped buying new editions from 2011.

Mark  

I'm number 2  ;)  End of 11' I stopped the buy everything mind set as well, but I still buy a boat load.

On edition size, they have upped the runs when comparing year over year edition sizes.

These have always been a supplement to movie posters, new art. In my mind it is comparable to a poster from another country, I buy for something different to the US one sheet. There is money to be made on these right now, that is a fact. Like T though, I dont really care about the value and a nose dive in prices would actually be nice so I could get those I missed the past couple years. I think the haters just don't see these in the right light. No one suggests to stop collecting movie posters and only buy prints.


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Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 01:25:42 PM
 A Mole People insert. Bruce has sold these inserts from about $325 to $1100.00 (this one was back in 2004).

Here, for $4700.00 (obo and the frame is NOT included):

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Mint-1956-Mole-People-Original-Movie-Poster-Authentic-and-Very-Rare-/00/s/MTAwMFg5ODY=/$(KGrHqV,!lUFC)8E+(urBQ2iSktzqg~~60_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mint-1956-Mole-People-Original-Movie-Poster-Authentic-and-Very-Rare-/140913211085?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20cf14f6cd



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 05, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
Another "I don't really want to sell this" auction
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Post by: pratschm on February 05, 2013, 02:05:37 PM
Don't buy it! It's a trap!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZnJcluoe1mk/TxzhArFHZdI/AAAAAAAAK7Q/Tlo_4c0LNvQ/s1600/hans+moleman+earthquake+machine+fortress+of+the+mole.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 05, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
Another "I don't really want to sell this" auction

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Quote from: marklawd on February 05, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
I was an active collector of Mondo posters in the early years and and a loyal supporter of the company. I doubt anyone has a more complete collection of prints for the period 2005 - 2010. But I became cynical of their changing business model and the way they condoned and, dare I say, encouraged speculation and the growth of the secondary market. So, with one or two exceptions, I stopped buying new editions from 2011.

I do not believe there will be an equivalent of a beanie babies collapse in the future because there is an inherent high quality in much of the Mondo product (many critics will have never seen or handled their prints) and of course there are genuinely low numbers of each. However, there will inevitably be price adjustments in the future. This is of little or no consequence to the original purchasers of posters such as Phantom of the Opera who paid $30/$50 but it has to be a concern for someone spending $3500/$4000.

Mark 
Quote from: ddilts399 on February 05, 2013, 09:24:58 AM
I'm number 2  ;)  End of 11' I stopped the buy everything mind set as well, but I still buy a boat load.

On edition size, they have upped the runs when comparing year over year edition sizes.

These have always been a supplement to movie posters, new art. In my mind it is comparable to a poster from another country, I buy for something different to the US one sheet. There is money to be made on these right now, that is a fact. Like T though, I dont really care about the value and a nose dive in prices would actually be nice so I could get those I missed the past couple years. I think the haters just don't see these in the right light. No one suggests to stop collecting movie posters and only buy prints.




The fact that you two have dropped out is only evidence that the bubble is beginning to stretch...  Holiday has started to sell out too.  Lucky for T he doesn't care or he should probably sell everything within the next year or so...  It is simple supply/demand economics...  People drop out once things get too expensive or hard to get which, is caused by the high demand because there are more vultures waiting to take advantage of the demand which eventually kills demand.  Adjustment will take place until there is a middle ground.  But I think the biggest issue facing Mondo, is simply, 'how many posters can they keep making before people just don't care anymore...'  I mean how many Mondo posters do you need?  Everyone that wants a Mondo has one... People will continue to drop out because it is just too much of a hassle.  Mondo will eventually lose the 'completest' collectors whom will become more selective reducing overall demand and eventual flip price.  The best thing Mondo could do for itself is go back to 4-6 prints a month with a higher inventory allowing for the completest base to continue their collecting ways... These are the core of the business - the guys who want each release...  Nobody can keep up with 18 different $65 posters a month... Who can sustain that other than a business (flippers) or the wealthy...
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Post by: eatbrie on February 05, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
The fact that you two have dropped out is only evidence that the bubble is beginning to stretch...  Holiday has started to sell out too.  Lucky for T he doesn't care or he should probably sell everything within the next year or so...  It is simple supply/demand economics...  People drop out once things get too expensive or hard to get which, is caused by the high demand because there are more vultures waiting to take advantage of the demand which eventually kills demand.  Adjustment will take place until there is a middle ground.  But I think the biggest issue facing Mondo, is simply, 'how many posters can they keep making before people just don't care anymore...'  I mean how many Mondo posters do you need?  Everyone that wants a Mondo has one... People will continue to drop out because it is just too much of a hassle.  Mondo will eventually lose the 'completest' collectors whom will become more selective reducing overall demand and eventual flip price.  The best thing Mondo could do for itself is go back to 4-6 prints a month with a higher inventory allowing for the completest base to continue their collecting ways... These are the core of the business - the guys who want each release...  Nobody can keep up with 18 different $65 posters a month... Who can sustain that other than a business (flippers) or the wealthy...

There seems to be a lot of anger in your argument, Charlie.  What is it?  Missed on too many prints?

I don't understand this argument of I should sell before the bubble bursts, if it bursts at all.  Mark did it, Holiday did it, Dale did it, blah blah blah.  I enjoy collecting prints, I still buy them whenever something pleases my eyes, like Jurassic Park, ET, Jaws and Precious Cargo recently.  I didn't buy Lost Boys, because I thought it was horrible, didn't buy Servants of Sauron for the same reason, and so on.  I buy what I like, I collect what I like.  Who gives a shit if it bursts, or doesn't bursts.  I'm a collector, I am not out there to make a profit but to enjoy a hobby.  If you collect for investment, do yourself a favor and find another hobby, for this one is not going anywhere.

T
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Post by: marklawd on February 05, 2013, 04:22:23 PM
I didn't sell. I just stopped buying. I'm a collector not a seller and I don't care whether a bubble bursts or not either. One day, many years ahead of now, I will sell my poster collection and I will seek to get as much money as I can for it, given the prevailing market conditions at that time. I hope that I will at least get back what I have paid out over the years but I may get more (fingers crossed) or I may get less. Whatever happens won't bother me.

Mark
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 05, 2013, 04:38:43 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Nobody can keep up with 18 different $65 posters a month...

good point Charlie. One of the downfalls of the comic hobby was that because Marvel, DC and the other publishers recognized that a large portion of comic buyers (for newstand purchase) from the mid-80s on bought one copy of each comic book every month. Comic stores would order for their "pulls" (people who pre-order) and slowly these companies would add titles and increase cover price. At one point, a collector was telling me his monthly new comic cost was almost $1500 and he wasn't getting everything. Moreover, because most comic stores operate within a very small financial spectrum (most comic shop owners have absolutely no cash and are hand to mouth), as these fans would get financially stretched and unable to pay the monthly bill, the comic shop owners were carrying the customers for 30-60-90 days etc and frequently would have to pile the material back into stock (losing money). It's a bad situation for them.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 05, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: marklawd on February 05, 2013, 04:22:23 PM
I didn't sell. I just stopped buying. I'm a collector not a seller and I don't care whether a bubble bursts or not either. One day, many years ahead of now, I will sell my poster collection and I will seek to get as much money as I can for it, given the prevailing market conditions at that time. I hope that I will at least get back what I have paid out over the years but I may get more (fingers crossed) or I may get less. Whatever happens won't bother me.

Mark

best collector attitude there is.
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Post by: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 05, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
There seems to be a lot of anger in your argument, Charlie.  What is it?  Missed on too many prints?

I don't understand this argument of I should sell before the bubble bursts, if it bursts at all.  Mark did it, Holiday did it, Dale did it, blah blah blah.  I enjoy collecting prints, I still buy them whenever something pleases my eyes, like Jurassic Park, ET, Jaws and Precious Cargo recently.  I didn't buy Lost Boys, because I thought it was horrible, didn't buy Servants of Sauron for the same reason, and so on.  I buy what I like, I collect what I like.  Who gives a shit if it bursts, or doesn't bursts.  I'm a collector, I am not out there to make a profit but to enjoy a hobby.  If you collect for investment, do yourself a favor and find another hobby, for this one is not going anywhere.

T

The argument was simply anyone holding onto these thinking they can cash in later is a fool...  I should not have brought you into the argument, my apologies.  I think by this point we all know that you won't sell and I personally don't give two shits what you do with your stuff.

Anger?  I was completely logical and objective in the analysis.  You obviously missed the point; or refuse to accept it... The discussion had been about prices and the Mondo bubble bursting. So I throw up some actual application of economic theory; such as supply and demand and you get all sensitive...  eyeroll Don't go get your panties in a wad dude... 

As far as missed prints - I've tried for 4-5 prints in total and one was for Ves (10,000 Leagues) because she asked me to... I have the only two Mondos I want (and a dark knight I could use to start a fire with for all I care) - a Beetlejuice from H and the Nina print.  Nothing else really interests me...  I have more prints from Buddich, Australia, Spokeart and that chick from Indy than Mondos...   

Investment?  No. I buy securities and other stuff. 

Do I really come across as someone buying to flip? 
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Post by: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 05, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
best collector attitude there is.

I hope I never have to sell...
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Post by: Tob on February 05, 2013, 05:49:48 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 05, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
Nobody can keep up with 18 different $65 posters a month... Who can sustain that other than a business (flippers) or the wealthy...

I don't think they release that many and they're not often $65...it's maybe 12 or so releases a month and that'll include a variant. And you would have to have very wide varied taste to want to buy everything they release.

I agree with the chaps that say they're a very nice companion of 'theatrical' posters. They give an opportunity to own a piece of licensed art for films such as The Mummy or Psycho or Dracula for about $45, which I think is incredible value when you see the quality of the screen printing 'in the flesh'. They're also encouraging people to seek out and watch good films that they might not never have even heard of, which I think is also a positive thing.
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Post by: Starling on February 06, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161306&lotNo=53520

Anyone else a little surprised by this....I mean, you could get an insert or a half-sheet from the original release for this much! 
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Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
A cool looking, 11x17 advance poster for the 1956 film, STORM CENTER. Designed by Saul Bass. Opening bid: $1400.00:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RARE-SAUL-BASS-STORM-WARNING-1956-ADVANCE-17-X-21-CENSORSHIP-POSTER-/00/s/MTI4MFgxMjYy/z/WZ0AAMXQR-dREWSN/$(KGrHqN,!n0FD+OMiEWQBREWSM2pTg~~60_57.JPG)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-SAUL-BASS-STORM-WARNING-1956-ADVANCE-17-X-21-CENSORSHIP-POSTER-/380572180608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589bdea080
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Post by: Starling on February 06, 2013, 01:58:05 PM
Very Cool, Jeff.  Overpriced, but very cool!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 06, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161306&lotNo=53520

Anyone else a little surprised by this....I mean, you could get an insert or a half-sheet from the original release for this much! 

Brian. it just goes to show what people are willing to spend on certain titles, regardless of it being a 1996 reissue. $1600.00 bid so far? Wow!   :o





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Post by: Harry Caul on February 06, 2013, 02:55:04 PM
I got my DS '96 Vertigo for $60. 
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Post by: Starling on February 06, 2013, 03:01:15 PM
That's a steal Matt, cause now they're worth 2k.  And they say you can't make a profit on movie posters!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 06, 2013, 03:01:15 PM
That's a steal Matt, cause now they're worth 2k.  And they say you can't make a profit on movie posters!


 coffee
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Post by: CSM on February 06, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Matt get yours consigned to Heritage and their idiotic bidders right quick!  ;)
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Post by: guest4185 on February 06, 2013, 10:43:50 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330869738964?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

This will be interesting. The original should be 15x40. It is also backboarded but still rare and a nice poster.
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Post by: CSM on February 06, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
Was watching that one Rick.  Beyond the size it just doesn't 'look' right either...
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Post by: Louie D. on February 07, 2013, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: Rick on February 06, 2013, 10:43:50 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330869738964?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

This will be interesting. The original should be 15x40. It is also backboarded but still rare and a nice poster.

Yeah, but it's a daybill  :-[
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 12:33:27 AM
Saw it too, what is Masonite?  :D

It looks like hardboard to me.
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Post by: Matt on February 07, 2013, 12:42:15 AM
Yep, saw it three...four...whatever.

Too risky and too much trimmed.
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Post by: guest4185 on February 07, 2013, 12:43:52 AM
I remember seeinga a poster backed onto masonite somewhere, obviously not a good move for its value but i guess it displays ok.
The top white section of this poster has gone.
I see it has a couple of bidders. It does look like the original colours but the framing border is a worry. i have pointed out to the seller that it is trimmed but i don't think the description has been changed.

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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 12:46:22 AM
Likely the top has been trimmed somewhat but seems logical that the rest is just behind that decorative mat

edit

I tell a lie, an extreme close up reveals it has actually been cut to side to fit on the masonite(?) and then fitted inside that gold border/mat, the edges are well worn
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Post by: guest4185 on February 07, 2013, 12:52:09 AM
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/elvis57/003-34.jpg)
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Post by: Matt on February 07, 2013, 12:57:24 AM
Show off. ;D You must be tired of looking at it Rick....my eyes could use a workout. wynk
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 12:57:57 AM
f-off

Same picture theatre...http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695&lotIdNo=89002
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Post by: guest4185 on February 07, 2013, 06:05:16 AM
I had noticed the connection with HA sale.
There was another one sold in the past year or so, but this one on eBay won't get such a price unless something silly happens.
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
I normally don't like to 'out' auctions in progress with fair starting bids, but this "Frankenstein vs. Wolf Man" HS scares the crap out of me.... someone already outed the auction on MOPO so I replied the following there:

Quote
Here are their auction photos for the Frankenstein vs. Wolf Man HS (downloaded
from artfact):



(http://image.artfact.com/housePhotos/LouisJDianni/62/418162/H5390-L41568339.jpg)


(http://image.artfact.com/housePhotos/LouisJDianni/62/418162/H5390-L41568340.jpg)


(http://image.artfact.com/housePhotos/LouisJDianni/62/418162/H5390-L41568341.jpg)




Here are the two HA sold:



(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B3%2F2%2F4%2F5%2F3245371%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B5%2F0%2F9%2F2%2F5092231%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)



How heavy was the restoration on the Haggard fakes?  This thing looks like a
daybill artist got a hold of it!  :)


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Post by: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 10:34:36 AM
Here is the reply I got from the auction house this morning...

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Thank you for your interest in Lot 1195, the Frankenstein Poster.   We
understand your concerns and have actually updated our condition report on this
poster.   

Condition: Excellent. Restored and sealed in cellophane against poster board.
Linen backed. Noted painted restorations with watercolor and gouache in woman's
dress, side of Frankenstein's face, Frankenstein's shirt where Wolf Man is
grabbing him, lamp pole, upper left corner, between Frankenstein's leg and
woman, the folds and minor scattered paint.

With regard to your concerns and hesitancy to commit to this piece, while we
have no reason to doubt this poster’s authenticity, we would prefer that you
either view it yourself in person or have your agent do so before bidding.  Our
consignor believes this poster to be the real thing, and therefore will not
agree to a refund,  allow you to authenticate or renounce it after purchase and
possibly give it to the authorities.
 
Again, we thank you for your interest as well as the time you took to share
with us your concerns.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2013, 11:21:39 AM
"will not agree to a refund,  allow you to authenticate or renounce it after purchase and possibly give it to the authorities"

That's not QUITE the same as the eMoviePoster.com guarantee!

 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 11:28:24 AM
In my email I mentioned that this title could have been faked by Haggard and that the FBI would certainly get involved if it turned out to be one.  I think that is what their statement was referring to :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 07, 2013, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
I normally don't like to 'out' auctions in progress with fair starting bids, but this "Frankenstein vs. Wolf Man" HS scares the crap out of me.... someone already outed the auction on MOPO so I replied the following there:


Can someone explain how Haggard created convincing half sheet and larger size fakes? The articles say that Haggard used "photos" of originals. Presumably he used inkjet printers, right? Those could easily be detected with a loupe, right?

I totally understand the one sheet fakes made from the S2 recreations.  Those were more difficult to detect since the S2s were printed with old chromium litho presses.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 07, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
Well, I'll answer my own question - I'm really good at that :)

The technical issues were discussed thoroughly here:

http://stylec.yuku.com/topic/8146/Anybody-Used-That-Poster-Authentication-Service?page=2

And Bob Brooks totally nailed it here:

http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/106921/Anybody-Used-That-Poster-Authentication-Service#reply-106921



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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 10:34:36 AM
Here is the reply I got from the auction house this morning...

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Thank you for your interest in Lot 1195, the Frankenstein Poster.   We
understand your concerns and have actually updated our condition report on this
poster.   

Condition: Excellent. Restored and sealed in cellophane against poster board.
Linen backed. Noted painted restorations with watercolor and gouache in woman's
dress, side of Frankenstein's face, Frankenstein's shirt where Wolf Man is
grabbing him, lamp pole, upper left corner, between Frankenstein's leg and
woman, the folds and minor scattered paint.

With regard to your concerns and hesitancy to commit to this piece, while we
have no reason to doubt this poster’s authenticity, we would prefer that you
either view it yourself in person or have your agent do so before bidding.  Our
consignor believes this poster to be the real thing, and therefore will not
agree to a refund,  allow you to authenticate or renounce it after purchase and
possibly give it to the authorities.
 
Again, we thank you for your interest as well as the time you took to share
with us your concerns.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So shouldn't someone raise concerns with the authorities? I'd hate someone to go through a lot of heartache and cost (trying to recover their money) because an auction house failed to properly address the concerns raised, more so because it seems many of the collecting community are already asking questions.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 02:27:23 PM
Mel, while the posters Haggard faked (let us not forget with the help of Jaime) were shot with camera, the type of camera has alot to do with it
you can be sure Heritage uses a top-of-the-line SLR with a very high resolution. I've printed out a section of a poster on 13x19 paper with my HP large format printer, to match by size a regular poster and you would be shocked at the quality.

The three sheets, some of which I have seen in person, are so near to perfect that if no such scheme has yet been outed, I doubt that hardly anyone could tell the difference between teh fakes and the authentic.  It's easier to doubt when you haven't seen the items in person, and also, they got better over time.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 02:28:48 PM
and PS: those auctioneers would have a really hard time voiding your rights to report said lobby card to the authorities. They must think they're Republicans or something
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Post by: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen this a/o interested....uhm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121053256735?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 02:44:13 PM
here's something I know you guys need

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philippines-1960s-Karate-King-James-Bond-Hair-Pomade-Box-50-Sachets-RARE-/271151107787?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5432153875093886159%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26sd%3D121053256735%26
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
So shouldn't someone raise concerns with the authorities? I'd hate someone to go through a lot of heartache and cost (trying to recover their money) because an auction house failed to properly address the concerns raised, more so because it seems many of the collecting community are already asking questions.

That this auctioneer, Louis Dianni, makes any reference or comment about this halfsheet being taken to the authorities is a HUGE red flag about this individual's character and integrity, IMHO. As the party being asked to auction this item on behalf of his consignor, one would think Dianni would want a reputation for auctioning genuine items.

For him to simply rely on the word of the consignor, "who believes it to be real" (especially with the recent Haggard debacle as pointed out to him by Matt), and to continue to say, "No refunds" is telling. One would think Dianni would now go to the consignor, let him know that there are concerns and have him get the halfsheet authenticated by a professional.

And if the poster is bought and proven to be fake, that buyer is simply out X grand (or whatever it sells for), without recourse? I would think not.

It is interesting how none of the wolf man touch ups are mentioned in the "revised" condition report. And I love the line ending with: "...minor, scattered paint." Scattered where?  :P

In addition, the amount of painting on the wolf man, and how it was done, is very evident. Here is just that section showing the Wolf Man-- his face, arms, torn shirt sleeve and the shadowing. Even the white clouds in the yellow sky, to the right of the wolf man's back, are now completely gone.

In comparison, the first and second images are closeups from the 2 HA posters:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HA2_zpsf2fbddec.jpg) (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HA1_zps333238d1.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/LD_zps20fd2c61.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:10:21 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 02:29:49 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen this a/o interested....uhm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121053256735?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Rosa, It looks like a poster that was in really nice condition, even prior to it being backed.    :)





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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
BIN: $8000.00

A 1911, French animation poster. Très bon!

This seller must LOOOVVVE peanut butter, too. Look at all those jars holding the poster flat!  wynk

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Nemo-1911-Winsor-McCay-ORIGINAL-French-cartoon-comic-book-movie-poster-/390539635590?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item5aedf9eb86

(http://www.pezheads.net/dwelch/ebay/McCayPoster1911-1.JPG)

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Post by: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:10:21 PM
Rosa, It looks like a poster that was in really nice condition, even prior to it being backed.    :)







Thanks Jeff, yes, it looks in v good condition to me too. Not as nice as the ones you posted in the other thread  ;) but it is good to see some of these early posters on ebay at a reasonable price. :)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
BIN: $8000.00

A 1911, French animation poster. Très bon!

This seller must LOOOVVVE peanut butter, too. Look at all those jars holding the poster flat!  wynk

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Nemo-1911-Winsor-McCay-ORIGINAL-French-cartoon-comic-book-movie-poster-/390539635590?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item5aedf9eb86

(http://www.pezheads.net/dwelch/ebay/McCayPoster1911-1.JPG)



Flipping-flop ...!!!!that's a lot of peanut butter, is he including those with the poster too? :)

I like the poster, not keen on that price..! ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
why is any illiterate referring to the Frankenstein V Wolfman as a "card"?
it's a half sheet

Quote from: schmuckaluck on February 07, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
That this auctioneer, Louis Dianni, makes any reference or comment about this card
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Post by: Silence on February 07, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
Where is Schmuckaluck?

Michael
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
reply #3599
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
Oversight fixed, Michael.  ;)



 
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
It is amazing how many times that posters from this 1931 film, TEN NIGHTS IN A BAR-ROOM, appear for auction, when so many others for films from that same year or years (1930-34) are scarce to non existent.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TEN-NIGHTS-IN-A-BAR-ROOM-1931-MOVIE-ORIGINAL-STONE-LITHO-POSTER-WILLIAM-FARNUM-/00/s/NzU3WDc5Mw==/$(KGrHqF,!ncE63T09SI3BOy,2yEepw~~60_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEN-NIGHTS-IN-A-BAR-ROOM-1931-MOVIE-ORIGINAL-STONE-LITHO-POSTER-WILLIAM-FARNUM-/370752428883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5652911b53
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Post by: CSM on February 07, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
I think it's a serial no?  Which would mean many more might have been made vs. a single movie.  And they were probably all found together in one big lot...
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Either way, I like it.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 07, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
I think it's a serial no?  Which would mean many more might have been made vs. a single movie.  And they were probably all found together in one big lot...

Chris, I just checked. It was not a serial. It was a singularly produced film.

Here's the storyline, in a nutshell: A man's heavy drinking drives away his family and threatens to destroy his relationship with his little daughter.



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Post by: 110x75 on February 07, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 04:58:54 PM

Here's the storyline, in a nutshell: A man's heavy drinking drives away his family and threatens to destroy his relationship with his little daughter.



Kinda like Aronofsky's The Wrestler, with booze.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Either way, I like it.

ditto.

So, Jeff, AKA ebay Police is this poster  a  ;D or are you suggesting it is a  uhno
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 05:18:35 PM
ditto.

So, Jeff, AKA ebay Police is this poster  a  ;D or are you suggesting it is a  uhno

Rosa, i have always liked the image, too.  thumbup

I was more commenting on how this poster appears with some regularity, so there are a good number of copies that have survived until now. Yet others from films of that same time period can be exceedingly scarce (look at the ones from the Berwick Collection, for example, or original release posters from any of the classic, Universal horror films from 1931-1939).  

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Post by: Mirosae on February 07, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
Rosa, i have always liked the image, too.  thumbup

I was more commenting on how this poster appears with some regularity, so there are a good number of copies that have survived until now. Yet others from films of that same time period can be exceedingly scarce (look at the ones from the Berwick Collection, for example, or original release posters from any of the classic, Universal horror films from 1931-1939).  



Understood.  thumbup

That said, I think I will be more tempted by the all peanut butter French poster...  ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 07, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
I think it's a serial no?  Which would mean many more might have been made vs. a single movie.  And they were probably all found together in one big lot...

not a serial Chris, just a regular poster. There are 3 or 4 styles and I have had them all.
The poster on linen, done badly, has been on ebay for at least 12-18 months, however a different dealer had apparently found a small stack of that title, across the different styles along with 3sh & lobby cards in lower qty.
I bought some, auctioned them already. He also found a number of other 30s posters, including a great Horse racing 3sh I won and a great 6sh on the same title that I lost.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
coming from off ebay, I wonder if Homer Simpson wants this poster


(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/itchy.jpg)
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Post by: 110x75 on February 07, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
Thats' pretty cool Rich! What's the size?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 07, 2013, 07:12:00 PM
I'm guessing it's a one sheet, though it could be a smaller promo
for Simpsons viewers, it's a funny connection
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 07, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
That this auctioneer, Louis Dianni, makes any reference or comment about this halfsheet being taken to the authorities is a HUGE red flag about this individual's character and integrity, IMHO. As the party being asked to auction this item on behalf of his consignor, one would think Dianni would want a reputation for auctioning genuine items.

For him to simply rely on the word of the consignor, "who believes it to be real" (especially with the recent Haggard debacle as pointed out to him by Matt), and to continue to say, "No refunds" is telling. One would think Dianni would now go to the consignor, let him know that there are concerns and have him get the halfsheet authenticated by a professional.

And if the poster is bought and proven to be fake, that buyer is simply out X grand (or whatever it sells for), without recourse? I would think not.

It is interesting how none of the wolf man touch ups are mentioned in the "revised" condition report. And I love the line ending with: "...minor, scattered paint." Scattered where?  :P

In addition, the amount of painting on the wolf man, and how it was done, is very evident. Here is just that section showing the Wolf Man-- his face, arms, torn shirt sleeve and the shadowing. Even the white clouds in the yellow sky, to the right of the wolf man's back, are now completely gone.

In comparison, the first and second images are closeups from the 2 HA posters:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HA2_zpsf2fbddec.jpg) (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HA1_zps333238d1.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/LD_zps20fd2c61.jpg)

Thanks for pulling together comparable pics. That HS is simply a mess... If it *is* original it looks like everything but the old gypsy woman's face was repainted!  It gives Ari's restored ET lights-in-the-clouds 1-sheet a run for its money!
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 08, 2013, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: Starling on February 06, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161306&lotNo=53520

Anyone else a little surprised by this....I mean, you could get an insert or a half-sheet from the original release for this much! 


So it takes two to run up a price like that... maybe a chance encounter between two drunk bidders who thought they were bidding on an original?  Either way, bids have clearly been retracted.
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Post by: 110x75 on February 08, 2013, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 08, 2013, 09:06:16 AM

... maybe a chance encounter between two drunk bidders who thought they were bidding on an original? 

or someone trolling Heritage  :D
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Post by: Starling on February 08, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Ha, I was just going to write that Matt.  Apparently 1k just disappeared :-\  Pity.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2013, 01:02:25 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 08, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Ha, I was just going to write that Matt.  Apparently 1k just disappeared :-\  Pity.

Looks like someone got wise (or sober).   8)


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Post by: ps. on February 08, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Looky-looky, an original daybill from Gone With the Wind's first release (and its an auction):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gone-With-The-Wind-Australian-Daybill-Movie-Poster-Original-Framed-for-Theater-/330869738964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d095f8dd4
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Post by: Silhouette on February 08, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
Quote from: ps. on February 08, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Looky-looky, an original daybill from Gone With the Wind's first release (and its an auction):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gone-With-The-Wind-Australian-Daybill-Movie-Poster-Original-Framed-for-Theater-/330869738964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d095f8dd4

Line up...everyone else has been looking too  ;) : http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg105355.html#msg105355

Well trimmed, glued to masonite, tough and expensive restore., (no guaranteed outcome getting it off the board)
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Post by: brude on February 08, 2013, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM
BIN: $8000.00

A 1911, French animation poster. Très bon!

This seller must LOOOVVVE peanut butter, too. Look at all those jars holding the poster flat!  wynk

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Little-Nemo-1911-Winsor-McCay-ORIGINAL-French-cartoon-comic-book-movie-poster-/390539635590?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item5aedf9eb86

(http://www.pezheads.net/dwelch/ebay/McCayPoster1911-1.JPG)



This Windsor McCay poster rocks.
The peanut butter? 
Must be a survivalist.
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Post by: ps. on February 08, 2013, 11:59:25 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 08, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
Line up...everyone else has been looking too  ;) : http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg105355.html#msg105355

Well trimmed, glued to masonite, tough and expensive restore., (no guaranteed outcome getting it off the board)

oops, must've missed it. can't imagine the difficulty of removing a piece of paper yay-thin from from some decades old backing.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 09, 2013, 01:54:08 PM
Sullivan's Travels (Paramount, 1941). US OS.

BIN- $8,000.00 (obo)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SULLIVANS-TRAVELS-1941-ONE-SHEET-POSTER-CLASSIC-RESTON-STURGES-LAKE-BEST-VF-/170987860820?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cfabb354

(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/buymovieposters/item-000461.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
for those of you looking for lightboixes, there is a great deal on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Poster-Light-Boxes-for-Movies-Business-School-/181077746293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a29132275
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 09, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
I bet that $8K Sullivan's Travels is the same one that sold for $3,730 three months ago:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/SullivansTravels.jpg)

So nothing more than a ...

(http://www.legaljuice.com/trampoline.gif)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 09, 2013, 02:20:33 PM
I wondered the same thing.

From the description, referencing the mild crossfold separations, it was probably best to have it backed and stabilized.

And if it sells at the BIN price, that's a nice profit of just under $4300.00 in a few months' time.




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Post by: archie leach on February 09, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
for those of you looking for lightboixes, there is a great deal on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Poster-Light-Boxes-for-Movies-Business-School-/181077746293?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a29132275

24" x 36"
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2013, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: archie leach on February 09, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
24" x 36"

well that's too bad.. I didn't read the description - just looked at the picture - but that is too bad they're undersized.. would have been a great deal for someone
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on February 10, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
Rogue Trader quad for sale here at £125!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROGUE-TRADER-1999-Original-Film-Poster-/281063278417?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4170ad4751
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Post by: marklawd on February 10, 2013, 11:21:32 AM
Quote from: Hallucination Generation on February 10, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
Rogue Trader quad for sale here at £125!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROGUE-TRADER-1999-Original-Film-Poster-/281063278417?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4170ad4751

It's not even the withdrawn style with the twenty pound note background.

Mark
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 10, 2013, 04:12:57 PM
here we go again......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-FINE-ARTS-TRIANGLE-PLAYS-DOUGLAS-FAIRBANKS-AMERICANO-MOVIE-POSTER-OTIS-/350713092117?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51a8211815
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Post by: Mirosae on February 10, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Again??? How many more are left?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 10, 2013, 04:19:05 PM
Going down in quality it appears....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 10, 2013, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 10, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
Again??? How many more are left?

who knows, but considering finds of material I have made over the decades, they could have a pile as it would be most likely the original source that led these to the attic where they were found was involved in a theatre or film distribution.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 10, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
Abbott and Costello posters are going under the hammer for a good price.

And I wonder how, I wonder why  ....if anyone could bother to tell me why are they collectibles?

It is just a question to see if anyone cares to enlightening  me.  I went this afternoon to a Gallery and noticed they had lots of Abbotts and I just don't get it. I fully understand that collecting is something really personal, what is rubbish to you, it is precious to me. Perhaps this is a rethorical question? I bet it is. But I am one of those who ...wonders why.

So, here is looking at you kid - can you let me know...

Goes without saying that I mean no offence. If you are bidding, you love them etc ..I just thought i could ask..

that's all.

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Post by: Silhouette on February 10, 2013, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 10, 2013, 05:54:11 PM

I fully understand that collecting is something really personal, what is rubbish to you, it is precious to me.


Answered your own question.

http://www.youtube.com/v/sShMA85pv8M

http://www.youtube.com/v/f7pMYHn-1yA
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Post by: Zorba on February 10, 2013, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 10, 2013, 06:19:21 PM
Answered your own question.

 :D

It is because they are American comedy/film icons.

For me personally, they were my favorite weekend mid day/ afternoon movie entertainment as a kid.

Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein is still one of my favorite movies and gets at least one yearly play in my house.  

I wish they were universally regarded as poopy, I would have a party.  ;D
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Post by: paul waines on February 10, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
I watch A+C meet Frankenstein 6 or 7 times a year, I love it, lets party Z...
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Post by: Zorba on February 10, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 10, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
I watch A+C meet Frankenstein 6 or 7 times a year, I love it, lets party Z...

I am up for an A+C Beer and wine festival.  ;D
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Post by: paul waines on February 10, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
 happy1 cheers
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Post by: Mirosae on February 11, 2013, 03:24:00 AM
Thanks. I see now why  ;)
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Post by: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
I prefer Laurel and Hardy as a comedy team, but Abbott and Costello did meet Universals Monsters.... :D

Where was the Gallery Rosa, and were any for sale?
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Post by: Mirosae on February 11, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
I prefer Laurel and Hardy as a comedy team, but Abbott and Costello did meet Universals Monsters.... :D

Where was the Gallery Rosa, and were any for sale?

Hi Paul, the Gallery is Limelight Movie Art in London King's Road (Chelsea). There are lots for sale, you can check the website.
http://www.limelightmovieart.com/results.php?txtSearch=abbott&field=title

I assumed that the show / actors were popular, just wondered if there were any other reasosn (very rare, or artist design, etc). I couldnt find anything in the internet.

Addres below:
Limelight Movie Art
313 King's Road
Chelsea
London
SW3 5EP

Tel : +44 (0)20 7751 5584

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Post by: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Yikes...   Thanks for the info Rosa, but it's not just Abbott & Costello thats expensive there. Some of those prices are eye-watering !!

Then again it is Chelsea...
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 11, 2013, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Some of those prices are eye-watering !!

Or brain-melting!

http://www.limelightmovieart.com/detail.php?movie=3542

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Post by: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 01:35:39 PM
I wonder how they stay in business... :o
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Or mind blowing!
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Post by: Mirosae on February 11, 2013, 01:39:15 PM
Ah, and the owner has just "lovely" manners, lovely lady  moron1
But....going to Galleries it is the only way I have_  oh poor mortal to see some real pieces ...and compare.... ;) ;)
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Post by: brude on February 11, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
When I was a kid -- and an avid A&C fan -- my Dad read in the paper that Bud was in a nursing home.  We sent him a card and the home sent us a 'thank you' allegedly autographed by Mr. Abbott himself.  He died shortly thereafter.
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Post by: marklawd on February 11, 2013, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 01:35:39 PM
I wonder how they stay in business... :o

Punters may perceive they are getting a bargain at Limelight in comparison with the prices Christies (who are just down the road) regularly achieve for not uncommon posters. They may also have picked up former customers of other, now defunct, galleries. If you are just looking Rosa, I think Christies and Bonhams are probably better places to view posters at close hand. The downside is that auctions are only held every six months.

Mark
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Post by: Mirosae on February 11, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
Spot on Mark. I just go there just to look and compare. It is convenient because it is in my area. I too go to Christies,  I confess that I never went to Bonhams. I will give it a try. Thanks!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2013, 05:45:21 PM
The best yet-- and ending in about 30 min.

This seller is offering this new REPRINT of a REAR WINDOW belgian poster for $900.00!!!   :o
Opening bid is 10 bucks.. but with a reserve.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Hitchcocks-Rear-Window-mint-rolled-full-sized-reprint-of-the-Belgian-poster-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjE2/z/UZkAAOxy1VlREEDm/$(KGrHqZ,!h4FDk-+oK8NBREEDlew4!~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitchcocks-Rear-Window-mint-rolled-full-sized-reprint-of-the-Belgian-poster-/111009260860?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d8aae53c

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Post by: 50s on February 11, 2013, 05:56:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 11, 2013, 05:45:21 PM
The best yet-- and ending in about 30 min.

This seller is offering this new REPRINT of a REAR WINDOW belgian poster for $900.00!!!   :o
Opening bid is 10 bucks.. but with a reserve.




I wonder what makes it a reprint? Maybe he printed it from an original. Belgians would be an easy size to do copies of. He has numerous other reprints.



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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
Right, Steve. Let's say he did reprint it himself, how does he come up with a $900 price tag? That is crazy!

He might be lucky to get 10.00 on a good day.   :-X


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Post by: 50s on February 11, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
But I wonder how we will spot these as fakes?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 11, 2013, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 11, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
But I wonder how we will spot these as fakes?

should be easy enough to tell for an experienced collector.
of course, it's also why you should buy from accredited sources
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 11, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
But I wonder how we will spot these as fakes?

Steve, the kind (newness) of the paper is probably one giveaway, as well.

I see that Bruce auctioned one "lot" of Belgian posters in 2010. Included in the lot was a copy of this poster, which Bruce described as being printed in the 1990s and often sold (or tried to be sold) as the real thing. The one Bruce had, still had the top imprint area, as well:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5561138.html



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Post by: CSM on February 11, 2013, 10:45:19 PM
Just buy Belgians that are (or were) folded, 'Imprime en Belgique' and with tax stamps.  The originals are pretty easy to spot really... 
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Post by: ATLfun on February 12, 2013, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: brude on February 11, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
When I was a kid -- and an avid A&C fan -- my Dad read in the paper that Bud was in a nursing home.  We sent him a card and the home sent us a 'thank you' allegedly autographed by Mr. Abbott himself.  He died shortly thereafter.


 Now we know where your save Buddy the cat feelings derive from.  If Abbot got your card, I bet that put a smile on his face knowing that he was still remembered.  Depression in a nursing home is far to common.
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Post by: mahmudf on February 12, 2013, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 11, 2013, 01:19:12 PM
Yikes...   Thanks for the info Rosa, but it's not just Abbott & Costello thats expensive there. Some of those prices are eye-watering !!

Then again it is Chelsea...

you need to also check out the crazy prices at the Harrods poster dept , I was in there one day and I overheard the salesman trying to convince someone over the phone to splash out £6k on a From Russia With Love 1 sheet   :o
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Post by: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Dam, you Southerners have money to burn, A shop selling a £500 Quad for over £2600 wouldn't last 5 minuets up here.

And Mark, just because Christies are over the top price-wise doesn't mean that's the norm. Over paying for anything is still over paying, I'm sure collectors can acquire better deals if they use the internet to shop around. It's the people who aren't collectors, who pay crazy prices. People who just want that "talking point' or feature for their room, and have no interest in film or paper as such.

This is why I tell people time and again, Christies is no yard stick for true market value... E.G. they sold a Dr No for 10k, if anyone wants a Dr No they can have mine now for 10k and no buyers premium, in fact I'll drop it off anywhere in the U.K. free of charge this weekend. Any takers??  Thought not...     
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Post by: marklawd on February 12, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 12:49:07 PM
Dam, you Southerners have money to burn, A shop selling a £500 Quad for over £2600 wouldn't last 5 minuets up here.

And Mark, just because Christies are over the top price-wise doesn't mean that's the norm. Over paying for anything is still over paying, I'm sure collectors can acquire better deals if they use the internet to shop around. It's the people who aren't collectors, who pay crazy prices. People who just want that "talking point' or feature for their room, and have no interest in film or paper as such.

This is why I tell people time and again, Christies is no yard stick for true market value... E.G. they sold a Dr No for 10k, if anyone wants a Dr No they can have mine now for 10k and no buyers premium, in fact I'll drop it off anywhere in the U.K. free of charge this weekend. Any takers??  Thought not...    

It's not the norm for me and you Paul but it is the norm for some. Wealthy people get to choose how they spend their time and money and if they choose instant gratification for a price that is easily affordable to them why should they waste their time shopping around. They trust Christes, which has been around for 250 years, and would rather buy that Dr No for £10,000 from them than risk being stitched up by an unknown and potentially dishonest (in reality, an honest and exceptionally knowledgeable) individual like you. They and the auction houses/galleries who sell to them set the prices in this niche market place.

Mark
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Post by: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Couldn't agree more Mark, but I'm thinking that "niche" market may well be bigger than first thought. Well by me at least.  Is there really enough people buying in that market to keep these shops going?  I know of several good shops that have closed in the last few years, and they had reasonable retail prices on their posters...

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
Paul, as Mark says, the "Rodeo Drive" type store sells to people who don't shop at Macy's, not just because they have the big bucks, but also because Rodeo Drive is the place to be seen.
A Hershey bar that costs $1 at Wal Mart can cost $3-$4 on Rodeo Drive, and Paris Hilton probably has never complained one bit.

Money has a certain emotional contact: spend it and you will have fun.

whether you're being cheated is a matter of perspective
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Post by: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
It's more the turn-over Rich, it must cost a fortune to run a shop around that area alone, so how much can they make in a year selling at these prices...
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Post by: Mirosae on February 12, 2013, 03:09:14 PM
I'd say that most people buying in those galleries, or at Harrods have little knowledge of what they buy or any pricing reference. At the Gallery I went on Sun Beatles LC were sold at huge prices. I saw three couples buying hese LC. But Beatles, they always sell .  Christies is well over the top, but it helps when you want to see a piece "live" !
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Post by: mahmudf on February 12, 2013, 03:13:59 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Couldn't agree more Mark, but I'm thinking that "niche" market may well be bigger than first thought. Well by me at least.  Is there really enough people buying in that market to keep these shops going?  I know of several good shops that have closed in the last few years, and they had reasonable retail prices on their posters...



With their already inflated prices they probably only need to sell a few pieces a month to keep afloat
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 12, 2013, 02:47:32 PM
It's more the turn-over Rich, it must cost a fortune to run a shop around that area alone, so how much can they make in a year selling at these prices...

Paul, did you ever hear the "dress for success" line? People who wear suits are more likely to deal with people who wear suits. the "suit" is like entre nous to the private club of theirs.
In this case, that seller "wears a suit" and so other suit wearers trust them to do business honestly. They pays their monies and they gets their stuff. At the same time, to these people, their time is worth alot of money, not necessarily because they spend their time working to make money, but because their portfolio pay them a huge dividend that equals X dollars per second. So even if they never work (because someone else really manages the money), they consider theior time worth $xxxx.xx per hour. Spending an hour looking for a better price on a FRWL poster = may as well just pay the price here. The final factor is this: "if I have 20million, who cares if I waste 20,000?"

these aren't collectors like you and I
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Post by: jayn_j on February 12, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 03:59:00 PM
Paul, did you ever hear the "dress for success" line? People who wear suits are more likely to deal with people who wear suits. the "suit" is like entre nous to the private club of theirs.
In this case, that seller "wears a suit" and so other suit wearers trust them to do business honestly. They pays their monies and they gets their stuff. At the same time, to these people, their time is worth alot of money, not necessarily because they spend their time working to make money, but because their portfolio pay them a huge dividend that equals X dollars per second. So even if they never work (because someone else really manages the money), they consider theior time worth $xxxx.xx per hour. Spending an hour looking for a better price on a FRWL poster = may as well just pay the price here. The final factor is this: "if I have 20million, who cares if I waste 20,000?"

these aren't collectors like you and I

Or another way to say it is that these customers want the best and are willing to pay the premium to have somebody else search it out and make it right.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 12, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
Or another way to say it is that these customers want the best and are willing to pay the premium to have somebody else search it out and make it right.

one correction: they want to believe they are getting the best

 wynk
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Post by: ATLfun on February 12, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
one correction: they want to believe they are getting the best

 wynk


Bueller?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on February 12, 2013, 04:59:08 PM

Bueller?

answered alrady in the other thread
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Post by: Mirosae on February 12, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
In my mind this is all about a simple statement of fact. Money and freedom to spend it as you wish.

Are they getting a good deal? I don't know.  I do know they get the posters. I am talking here the King Kongs and those in that sort of league.

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Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2013, 05:49:09 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 12, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
In my mind this is all about a simple statement of fact. Money and freedom to spend it as you wish.

Are they getting a good deal? I don't know.  I do know they get the posters. I am talking here the King Kongs and those in that sort of league.



 cheers
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 12, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
In my mind this is all about a simple statement of fact. Money and freedom to spend it as you wish. .

 sm1
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Post by: paul waines on February 13, 2013, 11:58:30 AM
I think you guys are missing the point. It's not the buyer, We have been through the why's and where for's about rich Buyers before. It's the Shop/Gallery selling.... Is there enough trade to keep them afloat?  The shop would have to have quite some turn over to keep going... otherwise they will close like the "cheaper" poster selling shops.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 13, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
Attack of the 50 Ft Woman

BIN: $13,450 (or make offer)

The seller's picture of the full poster is cropped a bit at the top, sides and bottom. He states it is 27x41 and linen backed. In looking at the closeup photo of part of the credits, it appears that touch up paint was applied to wrinkles/creases that were present.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ATTACK-OF-THE-50-FT-WOMAN-ORIGINAL-USA-MOVIE-POSTER-1958-ORIGINAL-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDE2/$(KGrHqF,!jkFBOpCs5ORBQVkFfYCzw~~60_12.JPG)  (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ATTACK-OF-THE-50-FT-WOMAN-ORIGINAL-USA-MOVIE-POSTER-1958-ORIGINAL-/00/s/MTE3OFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqR,!k4F!9LQZHkdBQVkK)T(Rg~~60_12.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330795130347

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Post by: Tob on February 13, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 13, 2013, 11:58:30 AM
I think you guys are missing the point. It's not the buyer, We have been through the why's and where for's about rich Buyers before. It's the Shop/Gallery selling.... Is there enough trade to keep them afloat?  The shop would have to have quite some turn over to keep going... otherwise they will close like the "cheaper" poster selling shops.

I wonder this about some shops (e.g. some little boutique in Knightsbridge...probably losing money hand over foot, but kept afloat by a rich husband/wife/parent as a project), but I could see that in a shop like that, the margin on their sales is probably so high that 3 or 4 big fish sales a month do the trick. There's far too much money swilling around in London.
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Post by: Charlie on February 13, 2013, 04:59:12 PM
Quote from: Tob on February 13, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
I wonder this about some shops (e.g. some little boutique in Knightsbridge...probably losing money hand over foot, but kept afloat by a rich husband/wife/parent as a project), but I could see that in a shop like that, the margin on their sales is probably so high that 3 or 4 big fish sales a month do the trick. There's far too much money swilling around in London.

Perhaps they own the building or something and only have to foot electric.  I also think online folks have it easy; I could easily see someone (even myself) listing posters within their collection for double replacement value to see if anyone would bite...
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Post by: Silhouette on February 13, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 13, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
Attack of the 50 Ft Woman

BIN: $13,450 (or make offer)


Not exactly the best of condition...but my question is: when setting the price and once you get to $13K how do you decide that it's worth an extra $450?
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Post by: jayn_j on February 13, 2013, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 13, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Not exactly the best of condition...but my question is: when setting the price and once you get to $13K how do you decide that it's worth an extra $450?

The $450 is the "or make offer" part :)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 13, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 13, 2013, 05:04:43 PM
The $450 is the "or make offer" part :)

Yeah that's what I figured, but a 3% discount for cash? Ha! I laugh in the face of his economics stupidity!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 13, 2013, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 13, 2013, 05:00:02 PM
Not exactly the best of condition...but my question is: when setting the price and once you get to $13K how do you decide that it's worth an extra $450?

More like, not the best backing and touch up job...  ;)


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Post by: Mirosae on February 13, 2013, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: Tob on February 13, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
There's far too much money swilling around in London.

True. Very true.
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Post by: CSM on February 13, 2013, 05:37:23 PM
Those wrinkles at the credit area can happen VERY easily on linenbacked posters if not unrolled or laid flat carefully - hell handled carefully in general!

And the extra $450 possibly to cover some of the eBay fees?  Who knows why people set the prices they do - maybe it's their lucky #?
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Post by: erik1925 on February 13, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 13, 2013, 05:37:23 PM
Those wrinkles at the credit area can happen VERY easily on linenbacked posters if not unrolled or laid flat carefully - hell handled carefully in general!

And the extra $450 possibly to cover some of the eBay fees?  Who knows why people set the prices they do - maybe it's their lucky #?

True, but there are those wrinkles running thru "Directed By" that have been touched up with paint; these would have existed, prior to it being backed.  ;)

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Post by: pratschm on February 14, 2013, 10:21:32 AM
Uh, so are you basically paying for the frames on this one?
http://www.auctionzip.com/aflive.html?method=getLotInfo&lotref=5E31C029AE&seq=1

Sure it's a complete set, but they're all listed as 24x36.  :-\
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Post by: ATLfun on February 14, 2013, 10:21:10 PM


Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
sm1


Bueller?
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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 03:30:29 PM
'SPOILER ALTERT!!!!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU CAN AFFORD POSTERS @  +$200K
(I assume it will go for that money..).

OMG, OMG, OMG.. just saw something that it is coming up for auction soon... OMG..a SIX SHEET  of certain poster. OMG.

Me knows me cannot bid, me knows me  will be watching the auction live and crying "me" eyes out...(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af231/xuxeliciousz/Girl%20Emoticons/crygirl2.gif)

Ah, had to say this, sharing the pain, none of the gain..

Ps- I will consider my options now: Option 1, win the lottery.  Option 2, rich husband methinks.. caramba
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 15, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Well, if by "see it" I assume you mean that it is currently listed with no photo yet?  If so I can probably guess which one you are after ;D
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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
 clap correct Harry! But I shall inform my Honorable Friend that I saw it (in my dreams, lots of times)
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Post by: 50s on February 15, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 03:30:29 PM
OMG, OMG, OMG.. just saw something that it is coming up for auction soon... OMG..a SIX SHEET  of certain poster. OMG.

You can tell me, this secret will be safe with me.

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Post by: Starling on February 15, 2013, 05:32:32 PM
If it's the poster I think it is, it will be interesting to see if it goes for more than the insert did a few months ago ;)  Exciting!
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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 15, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
You can tell me, this secret will be safe with me.


(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn6/tokyo_gurlz91/Whispering0001.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on February 15, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
I hear ya whisper, thanks. I am selling the house. thumbup


 
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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 15, 2013, 05:32:32 PM
If it's the poster I think it is, it will be interesting to see if it goes for more than the insert did a few months ago ;)  Exciting!

Hi Starling

Agree. Though I found watching auctions at that ''auction house'' a bit depressing. For me the one you mention a few months ago was depressing, painful and then again exciting too. But their auctioneers are AWFUL. There was a woman there she gave me a headache!! Or am I being mean here?
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Post by: Starling on February 15, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
Yeah, I remember her, she was pretty rough:)  It's still fun to watch and dream though bed1
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Post by: erik1925 on February 15, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 03:30:29 PM
'SPOILER ALTERT!!!!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU CAN AFFORD POSTERS @  +$200K
(I assume it will go for that money..).

OMG, OMG, OMG.. just saw something that it is coming up for auction soon... OMG..a SIX SHEET  of certain poster. OMG.

Me knows me cannot bid, me knows me  will be watching the auction live and crying "me" eyes out...(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af231/xuxeliciousz/Girl%20Emoticons/crygirl2.gif)

Ah, had to say this, sharing the pain, none of the gain..

Ps- I will consider my options now: Option 1, win the lottery.  Option 2, rich husband methinks.. caramba


And for the record, Rosa, we knew what wonderful piece you were speaking of. It was just more fun being a bit mysterious about it, dont you think?  ;D

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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
.....oh, ......ssss  ssssss or  I wil have to take drastic measures then
http://www.youtube.com/v/SjbPi00k_ME
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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 08:00:31 PM
Mel.. post yours back ;). Me wants to see the pic........post it back...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 15, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
OK I'll be the spoiler (boo!!).   piratemel

Too sublime to keep hidden for long....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-02/Casablanca.jpg)

Pic from previous sale by Emovie:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-02/174.jpeg)

So play it again Sam....

http://www.youtube.com/v/7vThuwa5RZU

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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 08:06:30 PM
BEAUTIFUL.  bed1





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Post by: brude on February 15, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
 bed1 bed1
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Post by: Zorba on February 15, 2013, 08:31:16 PM
I would do very bad things for that poster  8)

Seriously. Its great.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 15, 2013, 08:37:49 PM
See what you started, Rosa??

 qip


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Post by: Mirosae on February 15, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 15, 2013, 08:37:49 PM
See what you started, Rosa??

 qip




 ;) oh well..this girl can't help it!
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Post by: 50s on February 16, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
Heritage mentions the quotes to the right of Casablanca were not printed. I wonder whats that about?

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Post by: brude on February 16, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 16, 2013, 09:58:50 AM
Heritage mentions the quotes to the right of Casablanca were not printed. I wonder whats that about?



Now, that's a puzzler. 
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 10:19:27 AM
Well spotted. That said, I will have, with, or without quotation marks. I wil have it. Gimme, gimme eyeroll
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Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 12:51:15 PM
Here's a more finely detailed and larger image of the 6 sheet, showing both sets of quote marks:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/movie-poster-casablanca_zps2c719702.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 01:17:27 PM
IT HURTS. I want one too.
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/tumblr_mg2palBIoX1rk37q3o1_500_zps6a3ffca1.gif)
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Post by: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 01:55:28 PM
Or for us mere mortals, you could buy the re-issue Quad with the same artwork... :) 
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
Hi Paul..or you could try the Italian 2 foglio....re-issue....too!
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Post by: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
Do you have a pic of that one..?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 16, 2013, 02:05:00 PM
someone will enjoy this bidding
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DR-NO-James-Bond-UK-Original-30-x40-Quad-1962-Sean-Connery-Ian-Fleming-/310599860809?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485131c249
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:03:39 PM
Do you have a pic of that one..?

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/2012041821500085956_supersize_zps170d23a6.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:11:09 PM
Reading these posts I realised now how obssesed I am with this film. :-[ Man I need to see a doctor...
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Post by: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
That is very nice Rosa, and don't worry, most of us on here are obsessed with one film or twenty.... ;)


Did you see my set of first release U.K. F.O.H. stills from Casablanca... Can't remember which thread they were in. :-\
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Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
A Superb Belgian  bed1:

(http://www.benitomovieposter.com/catalog/images/movieposter/casablanca-img-32123.jpg)

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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:30:15 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
That is very nice Rosa, and don't worry, most of us on here are obsessed with one film or twenty.... ;)


Did you see my set of first release U.K. F.O.H. stills from Casablanca... Can't remember which thread they were in. :-\

Hi Paul, ...i am not very good with acronyms, U.K. F.O.H. what does that mean? I don't recall seeing them. Will check now, see if they are still around ;)



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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 02:21:47 PM
A Superb Belgian  bed1:




I feel obliged to respond to this post...

---------------------
Dear Jeff

I shall like to refer my Honourable Friend to my answer given in post  #3454. My Honourable Friend will see that I say ''quote'' I am obsessed with this film.

I am therefore grateful to my Honorable Friend for posting that very beautiful poster.

Yours faithfully, etc

Rosa



 pcorn
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Post by: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:34:31 PM
FOH-   Front of House Stills, they come in a set of 8 and are usually all in a display case outside the cinema...

I managed to get a full set many years back, never seen any more since.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 02:37:02 PM
Rosa,

Benito only wants 10,000 euros for his WC....    8)

(http://www.benitomovieposter.com/catalog/images/movieposter/casablanca-img-22394.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
Well, well, well, too bad for Mr Benito that I am not looking for a WC 8)

Ps- I am saying nothing about Benito#s OVERPRICED WC. nope. I am keeping meself quiet. Did I say it, nope.

Paul

Cant find your pics.... :( dammit.
r
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Post by: paul waines on February 16, 2013, 02:58:43 PM
Been struggling myself, I posted them individually somewhere, however I've found a group shot of them in the Lobby card section 11th post page 1...
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 03:06:09 PM
Paul,

Found them! They are BEAUTIFUL, you've got a real treasure there. AND THE FULL LOT.

 clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
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Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 03:44:11 PM
A beautiful copy of a French 1P, for HORROR OF DRACULA  bed1  bed1

BIN: $5500.00 (obo)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HORROR-OF-DRACULA-Hammer-Cushing-Lee-Rare-French-Grande-1st-release-/00/s/MTE2NVg3Nzc=/z/izAAAMXQQUpRDZPr/$T2eC16N,!yEE9s5jE,)jBRDZPrCYFg~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360583133919?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

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Post by: Silhouette on February 16, 2013, 03:46:16 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 03:44:11 PM
A beautiful copy of a French 1P, for HORROR OF DRACULA 

Indeed it is... thumbup
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Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 04:35:20 PM
Stunning!  It seems that most of these posters are BIN /OBO...
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Post by: pratschm on February 18, 2013, 02:27:48 AM
Don't miss out on this one. It's now 10% off and rare indeed! Looks like it's been all of folded, rolled and scrunched.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-T-Extra-Terrestrial-1982-Original-1SH-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-27x41-RARE-/221188699245?_trksid=e11011.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D251230368440%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5675327791400395577&_qi=RTM1240449

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/E-T-The-Extra-Terrestrial-1982-Original-1SH-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-27x41-RARE-/00/s/NzY4WDYwMA==/$%28KGrHqVHJFQFDy%292F!scBQ9mIcn-V!~~60_3.JPG)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 18, 2013, 02:43:46 AM
wallpaper for the garage
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Post by: rdavey26 on February 18, 2013, 02:52:47 AM
Quote from: pratschm on February 18, 2013, 02:27:48 AM
Don't miss out on this one. It's now 10% off and rare indeed! Looks like it's been all of folded, rolled and scrunched.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-T-Extra-Terrestrial-1982-Original-1SH-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-27x41-RARE-/221188699245?_trksid=e11011.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D251230368440%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5675327791400395577&_qi=RTM1240449

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/E-T-The-Extra-Terrestrial-1982-Original-1SH-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-27x41-RARE-/00/s/NzY4WDYwMA==/$%28KGrHqVHJFQFDy%292F!scBQ9mIcn-V!~~60_3.JPG)
Ted (Brude) was talking about hanging something in his bathroom. Well this would work perfect. It is already F@#ked up so what is a little moisture going to do to it. This would go with the Frankenstein Mirror he wants so badly in the bathroom.
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Post by: pratschm on February 18, 2013, 02:55:17 AM
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wallpaper for the garage

Hah, that gave me a great idea - a wall for the most expensive worst condition posters I can find.  :)
I'm tempted to email the seller and ask if he can just skip the mailing envelope and ship the poster through the mail all by itself, taping the edges, of course, so it doesn't unfold in transit.
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Post by: pratschm on February 18, 2013, 02:59:27 AM
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It is already F@#ked up so what is a little moisture going to do to it.

Based on how it's priced now, it will increase it's value.  thumbup
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Post by: rdavey26 on February 18, 2013, 03:01:30 AM
Quote from: pratschm on February 18, 2013, 02:59:27 AM
Based on how it's priced now, it will increase it's value.  thumbup
LOL the seller is a damn fool. I don't think he will ever sell it and if he does the person who buys it is a damn fool too.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
This was shown here previously, but I see it is listed again, with an opening bid of $4999.00.

The seller says it has been relisted due to "Auction Tampering." I wonder what that means?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-SHEET-only-known-copy-THE-SPIDER-1931-Fox-Horror-EDMUND-LOWE-William-Menzies-/261172326719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccf15713f

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1-SHEET-only-known-copy-THE-SPIDER-1931-Fox-Horror-EDMUND-LOWE-William-Menzies-/00/s/ODA0WDY1OA==/z/qc8AAMXQfFJRIxzF/$(KGrHqZ,!oQFE!C-4porBRI)zFIYP!~~60_57.JPG)

His Curse of the Demon Italian 2-foglio, which had shown as being sold, just last week, is also relisted, with the same opening bid of $3700.00. I think he needs to add a few more watermarks.   wynk

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Curse-NIGHT-OF-THE-DEMON-Italian-DANA-ANDREWS-Tourneur-1957-PEGGY-CUMMINS-/00/s/MTQxMlgxMTQ0/z/MzIAAOxyzHxRIy0o/$(KGrHqF,!hUFDU8r3tbYBRIy0nu7bw~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: movieposters on February 19, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Can anyone shed some light on this one (R-1996) ???

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/Vertigo_zps67d3b447.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: movieposters on February 19, 2013, 06:13:04 PM
Can anyone shed some light on this one (R-1996) ???

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/Vertigo_zps67d3b447.jpg)


This is a 1996 re-release DS OS, that was issued for the restored version of the film. It premiered in October 1996, at the Castro Theatre in San Francisco.  ;)

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Post by: CSM on February 19, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
Wasn't that one over $1,000 at some point?
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
I seem to recall that, too, Chris.

Then after it was mentioned here, the number dropped, like a bid had been withdrawn, possibly?




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Post by: CSM on February 19, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
I seem to recall that, too, Chris.

Then after it was mentioned here, the number dropped, like a bid had been withdrawn, possibly?






Yeah and then it still finished at the ridiculous $550 - WTF!
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Post by: Mirosae on February 19, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Gentlemen,

I shall be most greateful to the Hon Gentlemen if they could provide some much needed assistance. I saw this currently in auction and wondered if the Hon Gentlemen would care the respond to the following question: Is it a fake? It does appear to me.

Yours faithfully, etc

Me, myself and me laptop

ps- meaning, it is a herald, it looks dogie, and i do not collect them but like the look at them. not this one tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-PASSAGE-HUMPHREY-BOGART-LAUREN-BACALL-FILM-NOIR-SPANISH-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/150925631360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2323de5f80
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 19, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
Yeah and then it still finished at the ridiculous $550 - WTF!

I'm with you on that one, Sir!  ;)


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Post by: CSM on February 19, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 19, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Gentlemen,

I shall be most greateful to the Hon Gentlemen if they could provide some much needed assistance. I saw this currently in auction and wondered if the Hon Gentlemen would care the respond to the following question: Is it a fake? It does appear to me.

Yours faithfully, etc

Me, myself and me laptop

ps- meaning, it is a herald, it looks dogie, and i do not collect them but like the look at them. not this one tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-PASSAGE-HUMPHREY-BOGART-LAUREN-BACALL-FILM-NOIR-SPANISH-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/150925631360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2323de5f80

Sure looks real to me.  But just be warned these heralds are pretty tiny!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 07:37:36 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 19, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Gentlemen,

I shall be most greateful to the Hon Gentlemen if they could provide some much needed assistance. I saw this currently in auction and wondered if the Hon Gentlemen would care the respond to the following question: Is it a fake? It does appear to me.

Yours faithfully, etc

Me, myself and me laptop

ps- meaning, it is a herald, it looks dogie, and i do not collect them but like the look at them. not this one tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-PASSAGE-HUMPHREY-BOGART-LAUREN-BACALL-FILM-NOIR-SPANISH-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/150925631360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2323de5f80

Rosa,

I would think this is real. The print alignment was off, is all. And it is only 4x6 inches too.

This seller doesnt have a reputation for selling fakes.  ;)

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Post by: Ari on February 19, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Herald looks fine, although the print seems misaligned or something.
I like heralds also
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Post by: Mirosae on February 19, 2013, 07:41:59 PM
Thank you all for such a great-speedy responses. It is for my sis, we just thought it looked odd, but glad you all think it is ok.

I love the herals (size is not all that matters in this life!).  :)

MANY THANKS!
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Post by: Louie D. on February 19, 2013, 10:55:22 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 19, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
This was shown here previously, but I see it is listed again, with an opening bid of $4999.00.

The seller says it has been relisted due to "Auction Tampering." I wonder what that means?   :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-SHEET-only-known-copy-THE-SPIDER-1931-Fox-Horror-EDMUND-LOWE-William-Menzies-/261172326719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccf15713f

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1-SHEET-only-known-copy-THE-SPIDER-1931-Fox-Horror-EDMUND-LOWE-William-Menzies-/00/s/ODA0WDY1OA==/z/qc8AAMXQfFJRIxzF/$(KGrHqZ,!oQFE!C-4porBRI)zFIYP!~~60_57.JPG)



Keep dreaming.
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Post by: 110x75 on February 20, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 19, 2013, 07:34:16 PM
Gentlemen,

I shall be most greateful to the Hon Gentlemen if they could provide some much needed assistance. I saw this currently in auction and wondered if the Hon Gentlemen would care the respond to the following question: Is it a fake? It does appear to me.

Yours faithfully, etc

Me, myself and me laptop

ps- meaning, it is a herald, it looks dogie, and i do not collect them but like the look at them. not this one tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARK-PASSAGE-HUMPHREY-BOGART-LAUREN-BACALL-FILM-NOIR-SPANISH-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/150925631360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2323de5f80

Rosa, it does look bad, but no fake. Just seems to have some registration problems. Seller is highly trustable. I bought from him a while back.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 20, 2013, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 20, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
Seller is highly trustable. I bought from him a while back.


Matias, many thanks. That statement settles the matter. Thanks for responding, I love those heralds. Muchas gracias por responder. R
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Post by: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 04:44:33 PM
I just saw this US insert for the film, That Hamilton Woman, being offered. It has a reserve, with a $9.99 opening bid. However, when looking at the pics, this piece looks to have been airbrushed and painted, almost from top to bottom in spots. The image of Leigh on the left looks fine, but everything, down to the HANDWRITTEN (with a fine tipped sharpie, it looks like) info on the bottom border, is wrong and off.

Even the circular image at the bottom with Leigh and Olivier looks totally recreated and airbrushed- it doesnt look bad as far as an airbrushed, created image goes, but on the original, it is a photograph. Areas near the top credits look like paint is peeling away and closeup images make it look like much of it has an overall airbrushed appearance. Even the text info in the black box is different, and the yellow, printed area under it and to the left is missing.  :P  (An HA image is to the right of the ebay copy for comparison):

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/7/4/2/4/8/webimg/649368754_o.jpg) (http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B8%2F9%2F5%2F5%2F8955498%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/7/4/2/4/8/webimg/649368810_tp.jpg) (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/7/4/2/4/8/webimg/649368781_tp.jpg) (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/7/4/2/4/8/webimg/649368835_tp.jpg) (http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/7/4/2/4/8/webimg/649368927_o.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-THAT-HAMILTON-WOMAN-ORIGINAL-VERTICAL-INSERT-WONDERFUL-MOVIE-POSTER-/251233587124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7eb04fb4

I wrote the seller. I guess we will see if any reply is forthcoming.








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Post by: Charlie on February 22, 2013, 04:47:06 PM
Sharpie doesn't smear... Probably tried to hand paint the text or use one of those pens with the ink that sits up.  The stuff in the box is also different; it may be a re-release...  
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Post by: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
And the word "completion" was also written in and spelled as "compleation."

On the original, it is printed with the former spelling.



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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 05:09:59 PM
Bad resto job me thinks
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Post by: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 05:18:51 PM
It is curious, isnt it Chris? Considering too, that parts of the text and color palette are off and different, as mentioned. Not only is the lower left void of the yellow, but the background color in the circular portrait has gone from dark blue to a more lavender color and the first circle around that same portrait has gone from yellow to white.

A possible re-release? Could be. But if that was the case, it would not have the ® 1941 written on it. It would reflect a later re-release year.*

And one would almost think that the time it took to create the painted image of Leigh and Olivier would have been used on a first release and a photo on a later re-release (but wasnt, of course, as the HA copy shows).

Interesting, to say the least.

And the handwritten info on the bottom border takes the cake for me.  8)

*Just looked on imdb. The film was re-released in 1947, in the US, by Film Classics.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 22, 2013, 06:56:53 PM
This is Marlow's style work, detective's work.  I gather one needs good techy around to spot these things. This the sort of thing I hope to do with menewest Macfriend!
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
World's fastest attempted flip...?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/9629238.html

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2885706
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Post by: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
World's fastest attempted flip...?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/9629238.html

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2885706

They are not the same copy of the daybill.  ;)

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA130212/550/australian_db_spiders_web_R50s_CG00341_L.jpg)  (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday//550/australian_db_spiders_web_R50s_HP03376_L.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 07:25:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 07:22:47 PM
They are not the same copy of the daybill.  ;)


Actually I realised that...I should have put a winky smiley face at the end of the comment  ;) :D
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
I wonder what the lucky buyer will find in the hole of this one?   :o
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
I wonder what the lucky buyer will find in the hole of this one?   :o

That's it's not a hole but a rip in the space–time continuum...?

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/spiders-web-6_zps1d013071.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on February 22, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
If the rating was NOT SUITABLE FOR GENERAL EXHIBITION, I wonder if Andy censored these posters, you know he doesn't like links to other forums.
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Post by: Matt on February 22, 2013, 08:08:33 PM
 
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
That's it's not a hole but a rip in the space–time continuum...?


Now that's clever!  laugh1
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Ari on February 22, 2013, 08:05:07 PM
If the rating was NOT SUITABLE FOR GENERAL EXHIBITION, I wonder if Andy censored these posters, you know he doesn't like links to other forums.

Can someone please photoshop that and put this in there?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Mr_peanut.png)
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 22, 2013, 08:08:33 PM

Now that's clever!  laugh1

An endless supply!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
World's fastest attempted flip...?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/9629238.html

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2885706

yep.. definitely not wise to immediately put another copy of this poster up not only just in a near time period to the first, much less one week later

the $320 purchase for the first one will be followed up by steep drop. How should the customer feel about that?

I could single-handed turn Pulp Fiction into a $25 poster if I wanted to, but what purpose would that serve?

this is representative of very poor stewardship of the material and a complete negative to the hobby
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
yep.. definitely not wise to immediately put another copy of this poster up not only just in a near time period to the first, much less one week later

the $320 purchase for the first one will be followed up by steep drop. How should the customer feel about that?

I could single-handed turn Pulp Fiction into a $25 poster if I wanted to, but what purpose would that serve?

this is representative of very poor stewardship of the material and a complete negative to the hobby

How is artificially inflating the price of a poster by holding back the supply better?  Other than for the seller/consignor of course...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
How is artificially inflating the price of a poster by holding back the supply better?  Other than for the seller/consignor of course...

the price wasn't artificially created, but it is going to be deliberately undermined
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
the price wasn't artificially created, but it is going to be deliberately undermined


What does this mean Rich light of the above comment:

"I could single-handed turn Pulp Fiction into a $25 poster if I wanted to, but what purpose would that serve?"
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
What does this mean Rich light of the above comment:

"I could single-handed turn Pulp Fiction into a $25 poster if I wanted to, but what purpose would that serve?"

it means I have alot of the regular style that I got from a deal years ago. I sell a small few a year.

and what the @#*%* would you think it meant you dolt???  :P
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Post by: 50s on February 22, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
The buyer may like the holy poster so much he can grab a second one at a bargain price rather than wait for another to appear later

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Post by: ATLfun on February 22, 2013, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
it means I have alot of the regular style that I got from a deal years ago. I sell a small few a year.

and what the @#*%* would you think it meant you dolt???  :P


 Rich, you should try to crash the Int. Bueller market buy dumping your Bueller posters on the open market.  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:59:43 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on February 22, 2013, 08:57:06 PM

 Rich, you should try to crash the Int. Bueller market buy dumping your Bueller posters on the open market.  ;D

sadly Brian, all I ever had was two copies..
I did sell one I recall..........
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Post by: 50s on February 22, 2013, 09:01:05 PM

Your banner is not big enough Rich


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 22, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
Your banner is not big enough Rich

why are you looking at my crotch anyway???

oh.. my banner... why you looking at my banner???

 :P
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Post by: 50s on February 22, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
The red in the banner is nauseatingly flouro on my display, I'm searching how to block the ad in my firewall or browser
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 09:24:10 PM
that banner only last until Weds.. then it's blue

 :-*

to add to my post..most forums have a setting to not display signatures where people graphics are usually displayed

I'm not sure if APF has one.. they should
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
it means I have alot of the regular style that I got from a deal years ago. I sell a small few a year.

and what the @#*%* would you think it meant you dolt???  :P

And that's in YOUR best interests but how do YOUR interests relate to the hobby as a whole?

Yeah I know I am asking the wrong guy this question ;)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 22, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
The buyer may like the holy poster so much he can grab a second one at a bargain price rather than wait for another to appear later

Well well, what have we here...a miss-spell? And coming from the forum's own spell-checker?!  :P Because unless that poster with the hole in it is the holy grail of posters then I wholly believe you meant holey? Unless of course the person that bought it was called Holly, and that's a whole different songsheet...http://goo.gl/lecl3

And yes, he'll need to buy a lot of that poster to bring down the average cost on that holy of holy posters.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 22, 2013, 10:39:26 PM
Ha, yes, almost got me, but I liked the double meaning. It was intentional (http://th297.photobucket.com/albums/mm238/lovemusicbebe/Emoticons/th_dancing.gif)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 10:41:49 PM
Chris, it benefits the entire business AND every person who has ever bought a copy from a variety of sources over the years. Bruce gets more than I get for them usually, because my price is reasonable. It benefits no one (except cheapskates) to mutilate the market value, especially because unlike the Spider's Web poster, PF is in very high demand, Spider's Web has a probable handful of buyers above $50 and maybe not even a handful, so auctioning 2 of those in one week isn't even comparable to offering PF one sheets so rapidly.

years ago there was the story about Cinemonde having a 200-300 stack of 1952 Kong half sheets. what purpose would it have suited Jose to offer them at a low price to move them out when it was a good investment to sell them slowly?

think ofthe whole picture, not just the thin slice of the image on the left side of the photo
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 10:41:49 PM
Chris, it benefits the entire business AND every person who has ever bought a copy from a variety of sources over the years. Bruce gets more than I get for them usually, because my price is reasonable. It benefits no one (except cheapskates) to mutilate the market value, especially because unlike the Spider's Web poster, PF is in very high demand, Spider's Web has a probable handful of buyers above $50 and maybe not even a handful, so auctioning 2 of those in one week isn't even comparable to offering PF one sheets so rapidly.

years ago there was the story about Cinemonde having a 200-300 stack of 1952 Kong half sheets. what purpose would it have suited Jose to offer them at a low price to move them out when it was a good investment to sell them slowly?

think ofthe whole picture, not just the thin slice of the image on the left side of the photo

It only matters if you are investing in your purchases.  If you are buying purely out of desire or pleasure then the cheapest possible price is the best price every time...

Of course for a seller it's the other side of the coin (and I get that).  But I disagree that it's in the best interests of the hobby as a whole to keep poster prices high by purposefully hiding the true supply of any particular poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
It only matters if you are investing in your purchases.  If you are buying purely out of desire or pleasure then the cheapest possible price is the best price every time...

Of course for a seller it's the other side of the coin (and I get that).  But I disagree that it's in the best interests of the hobby as a whole to keep poster prices high by purposefully hiding the true supply of any particular poster.

yes, I'm keeping my qty hidden.. that's why I didn't mention here that I actually have a qty on this poster ... oh wait...!!!
(and for the record, many people, including some on this list, know I have a supply of this poster and many others).

seriously however, few people think or believe Pulp Fiction is a rare poster by any stretch of the imagination any more than people think Star Wars is a rare poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 22, 2013, 11:12:46 PM
I agree with Chris. Only benefit for buyer is if they bought at a high value and need it to stay a high value, in that case they are really a seller. Some of us don't buy to recoup our outlay.

However, buyers will not lose if they bought posters cheaply. Maybe professional sellers will not able to make a living purely from selling posters and may have to branch out into selling other product lines such as underwear. If there is a poster price crash, selling will still happen without dealers, like on ebay, selling posters for a few dollars or in bulk lots.




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
Underwear bulk lots?  Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 11:16:46 PM
that's it Steve.. Pulp Fiction underwear!!! Then when people look at my crotch, they can see my Samuel Jackson !!

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 22, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2013, 11:16:46 PM
that's it Steve.. Pulp Fiction underwear!!! Then when people look at my crotch, they can see my Samuel Jackson !!

 ;D

Ari should get one of those. The underwear I mean, not Rich's Mr. Jackson  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 22, 2013, 11:27:22 PM
I think I should get this one...

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/mexican_la_tumba_de_matias_HP02827_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 11:29:12 PM
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb115/pace0ne/myspace/myspace%20tags/Unmotivational/chapelle_Sam_Adams_Beer.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2013, 11:29:55 PM
And yes you should Matias - it even has a cock fight on it  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 22, 2013, 11:34:56 PM
Girls, graves and cocks... That's a must have  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 22, 2013, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2013, 11:29:12 PM
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb115/pace0ne/myspace/myspace%20tags/Unmotivational/chapelle_Sam_Adams_Beer.jpg)

OH YEAH!

O0

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
The Quiet Man, set of 8 lobby cards:
BIN: 1600.00 obo

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-QUIET-MAN-John-Wayne-Maureen-OHara-Set-of-8-Original-11x14-Lobby-Cards-NM-/00/s/MTI1NFgxNjAw/z/eWoAAMXQQUpRC8GB/$T2eC16JHJG!E9nm3pk,wBRC8GBbU1Q~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-QUIET-MAN-John-Wayne-Maureen-OHara-Set-of-8-Original-11x14-Lobby-Cards-NM-/281067846533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4170f2fb85
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
The Quiet Man, set of 8 lobby cards:
BIN: 1600.00 obo

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-QUIET-MAN-John-Wayne-Maureen-OHara-Set-of-8-Original-11x14-Lobby-Cards-NM-/00/s/MTI1NFgxNjAw/z/eWoAAMXQQUpRC8GB/$T2eC16JHJG!E9nm3pk,wBRC8GBbU1Q~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-QUIET-MAN-John-Wayne-Maureen-OHara-Set-of-8-Original-11x14-Lobby-Cards-NM-/281067846533?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4170f2fb85

 ;D Thanks. I saw this one, and I thought it was outrageous. I'd be interested to know if others think this is a ''fair'' pricing.. ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 23, 2013, 05:33:31 PM
It will be interesting to see how many more decades they take to sell at that price...
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Post by: 50s on February 23, 2013, 05:37:42 PM
I reckon once the movie is forgotten and the actors mostly too, the artwork is worse than most of my Mex Lobby Cards

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 05:45:27 PM
Agree. I don't think the artwork is great, personally I only like two of these LC.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 05:52:37 PM
An incomplete 6 sheet for In A Lonely Place:

BIN: $800 obo

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HUMPHREY-BOGART-IN-A-LONELY-PLACE-6-SHEET-1950-FILM-NOIR-CLASSIC-NICHOLAS-RAY-/00/s/NDU2WDQ1MA==/z/7O0AAOxyOBJRCY6h/$(KGrHqZ,!h!FEJQFOOgZBRCY6hMrk!~~60_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUMPHREY-BOGART-IN-A-LONELY-PLACE-6-SHEET-1950-FILM-NOIR-CLASSIC-NICHOLAS-RAY-/111007156481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d88ac901
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
Why would you do that to this poster? Gosh, that's a shame... I will refrain from commenting on the IMO. Tho damaged I  bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on February 23, 2013, 06:32:40 PM
I actually think that's a great price for that piece, even with the missing panel! 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
Why would you do that to this poster? Gosh, that's a shame... I will refrain from commenting on the IMO. Tho damaged I  bed1

Rosa,

It's just missing a panel. No one cut this section out... whew..!!

 ;)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on February 23, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Or maybe its not...just saw that this same exact poster went for $262 in 2010 at HA.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 23, 2013, 06:44:07 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 23, 2013, 06:40:50 PM
Or maybe its not...just saw that this same exact poster went for $262 in 2010 at HA.

that sale was a gift to the buyer
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
gift? Give it to ME!!!!!!!

BOGIE=ROSA4EVER. PERIOD.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 22, 2013, 11:27:22 PM
I think I should get this one...

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/thursday/mexican_la_tumba_de_matias_HP02827_L.jpg)

HAHAHHAAH JUST SAW THIS ONE MATIAS. THIS ROCKS. La verdad es que es una genialidad, es muy gracioso!! ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 23, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 05:03:56 PM
;D Thanks. I saw this one, and I thought it was outrageous. I'd be interested to know if others think this is a ''fair'' pricing.. ;)

I am going to have to go through my stash of laserdiscs.  I seem to recall that my Quiet Man special edition laserdisc came with a set of 8 repro lobbies.  Hopefully they are marked so that they couldn't be passed off as original.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
Jay

That would be very helpful indeed. These LC seem to come out regularly and  bought one a while ago and I have never been too sure if it was original or not. So it would be helpful to see how a fake one looks like for future reference. I have LC 3 (Duke and M.O about to kiss).  :)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 24, 2013, 12:33:25 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
gift? Give it to ME!!!!!!!

BOGIE=ROSA4EVER. PERIOD.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq9frg3SJk1qiz3j8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 24, 2013, 12:41:42 AM
 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on February 24, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
Rosa's gonna need to find a new emoticon to respond to that gif. Don't think any of the ones available here will be able to allow her to fully express herself.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 24, 2013, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 22, 2013, 09:22:23 PM
The red in the banner is nauseatingly flouro on my display, I'm searching how to block the ad in my firewall or browser


Hehe


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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on February 24, 2013, 02:27:27 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 24, 2013, 01:50:14 AM

Hehe


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/allGoneMPBad.jpg)






I've got you beat. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zKnjyOYL57E/USnAhTxE9fI/AAAAAAAAGtA/BbbIM3noA_w/s800/adsgone.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 24, 2013, 02:59:33 AM
 :P

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/fu.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 24, 2013, 03:02:51 AM
hehehe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 24, 2013, 03:04:42 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 24, 2013, 03:02:51 AM
hehehe

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on February 24, 2013, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 24, 2013, 02:59:33 AM
:P

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/fu.jpg)
why does that fucker only have 4 digits?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 24, 2013, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: brude on February 24, 2013, 12:33:25 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq9frg3SJk1qiz3j8o1_500.gif)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)

AND AGAIN

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/i-want-you_zpsa987eb51.gif)


TED= GENIUS
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 24, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
Quote from: pratschm on February 24, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
Rosa's gonna need to find a new emoticon to respond to that gif. Don't think any of the ones available here will be able to allow her to fully express herself.  ;)

True! I need to think about a proper one.. :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 24, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 23, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
HAHAHHAAH JUST SAW THIS ONE MATIAS. THIS ROCKS. La verdad es que es una genialidad, es muy gracioso!! ;D

Que si, verdad? I'm having a hard time picturing it hanged on my wall...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 24, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 24, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
Que si, verdad? I'm having a hard time picturing it hanged on my wall...

Matias, que si, que si, ese es para ti hombre, que es una genialidad. It will look great, it is super funny! ;)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 24, 2013, 06:42:02 PM
Let the games begin, and make it a good fight, no biting, no gouging, no hitting below the belt http://goo.gl/aeS9j
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on February 24, 2013, 08:27:49 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 24, 2013, 06:42:02 PM
Let the games begin, and make it a good fight, no biting, no gouging, no hitting below the belt http://goo.gl/aeS9j

Yes. Be gentle.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 27, 2013, 12:34:43 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on February 24, 2013, 02:27:27 AM
I've got you beat. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zKnjyOYL57E/USnAhTxE9fI/AAAAAAAAGtA/BbbIM3noA_w/s800/adsgone.jpg)


No, I got you now beat...

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/noGraphics_MPB.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2013, 01:01:20 AM
Steven, I changed my avatar today.. I guess you can't see that.. lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on February 27, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2013, 01:01:20 AM
Steven

I guess Steve is in trouble now.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 27, 2013, 01:11:24 AM
Quote from: Ari on February 27, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
I guess Steve is in trouble now.

Just wait until he starts using Stephen!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 27, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2013, 01:01:20 AM
Steven, I changed my avatar today.. I guess you can't see that.. lol

No fortunately or unfortunately

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/noGraphics_MPB2.jpg)


Quote from: Ari on February 27, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
I guess Steve is in trouble now.

Yes, sounds like it, looks like I almost deleted , ahem, Dick, from the internet  :o


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2013, 01:42:05 AM
Quote from: Ari on February 27, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
I guess Steve is in trouble now.

LOL.. too bad he doesn't know what you mean...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2013, 01:42:34 AM
UK seller, getting rid of his 300+ piece poster collection, along with a 6 drawer architect's flat file. He says the file alone is valued at 250-350 GBP.

The posters are a mix of modern quads and US DS OS (unless noted).

BIN price: 3999.99 GBP / $6044.00 (obo)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Film-Movie-Poster-Collection-including-Architects-Plan-Chest-300-posters-/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/$(KGrHqN,!okE9mgm+JSvBP8QdZLsBw~~60_58.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230934138472
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 01:54:12 AM
He's been trying to shift that for about a year or more...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 03:58:10 AM
That one is ugly. I need to ask where in the UK I can buy stuff like this to storage my posters...no idea..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on February 27, 2013, 04:06:49 AM
Rosa - ebay is your best bet, or gumtree if you are in a big city. I've been watching auctions for a while and the good looking ones can go for around £350. Im tempted to buy a bashed up one and restore it a bit, but realistically im not sure where I'll find the time. Most are collection only, but there are plenty of van couriers that would pick and drop off for a reasonable fee.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 04:18:03 AM
Thanks Tob, I am keeping an eye. I just wanted to see it first before buying. And what about the plastic folders , to store them flat. Do you get them in eBay too?

At the mo I have them in their original package. In the sturdy tubes.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on February 27, 2013, 05:38:21 AM
I bought a load of sleeves from bags unlimited in the US - even with shipping and import VAT, they were still cheaper than anything I can find over here. They're good quality and you can fit a few poster in each. They're a good solution as you can store them flat on top of each other under a bed...a bit nicer for the paper to be flat rather than rolled in a tube too I suppose?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 05:58:07 AM
Yes, I prefer the posters to be flat. I will give them a go then.

I want to have them at hand, that's all. I asked a designer here to create something for me, nothing too fancy. I wanted to have them displayed in something that from the outset would look like a larger photo album, or post-it pack or whatever (but large enough for posters) so could have them in my living room,  rather than under my bed. And look at them whatever I wanted, easy and cool.


I wanted something funky. I gave her some ideas, I gave her my sketches.


She cameback with something that looked like a tomb..awful. So i am back to square one. Bags unlimited then
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Post by: marklawd on February 27, 2013, 08:02:41 AM
I am not sure what product Tob is obtaining from Bags Unlimited and the final cost to him but I buy polyester (equivalent to Mylar) pockets (open one end) from Preservation Equipment
 https://www.preservationequipment.com/ (https://www.preservationequipment.com/) here in the UK. The quality of the product and the protection it gives to posters is unbeatable. I haven't bought any for a couple of years so I can't remember the price or the minimum order for the bespoke size/thickness I always ask for -1207mm x 795mm (100 microns). This is the largest size that will comfortably fit into an AO plan chest and is perfect for quads and one sheets. I could split an order with you Rosa if that helps as I need about 50 pockets currently.

Mark
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 08:18:59 AM
Mark,

I'm in. Thou I couldn't find the size you mentioned in their website. 50 is enough for me too.

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Post by: Tob on February 27, 2013, 09:55:40 AM
Mark and Rosa,

When I enquired about preservation equipment sleeves (Mark kindly passed on his measurements and specs on to me previously), they quoted me 25 sleeves (1207mm x 795mm, 100 microns) for £175 + VAT + Delivery (approx £8.50 a sleeve with VAT and delivery?).

These are the bags I went for from Bags Unlimited

Quads (4mil) - http://www.bagsunlimited.com//p-3444-british-quad-poster-sleeves.aspx
Quads (2mil) - http://www.bagsunlimited.com//p-3443-british-quad-poster-sleeves.aspx
One Sheets (2mil) - http://www.bagsunlimited.com//p-3079-one-sheet-poster-sleeve.aspx

I have found the 4mil sleeves to be excellent, but 2mil are good also (less opaque, but not quite as sturdy). Both can fit several posters in a sleeve (I have about 10 cheap quads in one 2mil sleeve for example).

I ordered:
50 x 4mil quad sleeves
50 x 2mil quad sleeves
50 x 2mil one sheet sleeves

The sleeves were $241.20
The delivery was $124.30
Total $365.50 (£243ish?)
+ VAT and import of around £70 = £300 ish...around £2 a sleeve.

So I found the Bags Unlimited option a lot cheaper if you order in those numbers (although a caveat to add is that USPS prices have gone up since I ordered). If either of you (or any other UK members) want to see a sleeve, shoot me a PM with your address and I'm happy to post you one.

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Post by: marklawd on February 27, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
Polyethylene is an inferior product to polyester Tob. If you search for Polyester (Mylar) sleeves on Bags Unlimited's site they do 25 pockets (size 31" x 43") for $206.20. I imagine that with shipping and import duties the final price will be similar to Preservation Equipment's delivered price.

Mark
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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 03:58:10 AM
That one is ugly. I need to ask where in the UK I can buy stuff like this to storage my posters...no idea..


I guess it all depends on where you are putting it, weather it's ugly or not. If that was priced reasonably I'd buy it as I have a room for my poster stuff that's only used by me. If it was going to be on show, then you would have to spend more money on it to buy a nice one. Mine cost me £30 and £45 ....I think...  I have two of them.  And need another now.

I never use bags in the chest, the posters lay on each other nicely..  
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Post by: marklawd on February 27, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
....I never use bags in the chest, the posters lay on each other nicely..  

I think one of the big advantages of mylar pockets is that they are semi-rigid and allow posters to be easily, safely and quickly moved in and out of plan drawers. Otherwise, you have to be extremely careful (I am sure Paul is) in handling them, because this is the most likely time when damage can occur.

Mark
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2013, 02:06:06 PM
I never place flat posters inside bags in my flat files, except small fragile ones.

one sheets I place flat on a sheet of pressboard and then I place a plastic bag on top, another poster, another bag, like a sandwich until the drawer is full. each poster is between the bags and they don't get ruined from handling due to floppy bags that are not controllable. it flattens the posters out quite nicely
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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
I did have a problem once, but now only take out 2/3 posters at a time, as Mark says, you have to move them in and out very carefully. My problem was space, as more posters can be fitted in when not in bags. Plus I tend to buy more posters with any money I have for bags...  eyeroll

If you don't have many posters a Browser and some poster sleeves maybe the way to go. Good for looking at them, and as I do, stand them all over the place..
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
If you don't have many posters a Browser and some poster sleeves maybe the way to go. Good for looking at them, and as I do, stand them all over the place..

What is a 'Browser'?
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Post by: Tob on February 27, 2013, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: marklawd on February 27, 2013, 01:18:44 PM
Polyethylene is an inferior product to polyester Tob. If you search for Polyester (Mylar) sleeves on Bags Unlimited's site they do 25 pockets (size 31" x 43") for $206.20. I imagine that with shipping and import duties the final price will be similar to Preservation Equipment's delivered price.

Mark

Ah yes, that is a fairer comparison in terms of the price of the preservation equipment sleeves. Is the main difference the rigidity of Mylar?

I find the Poly bags good for my needs as they're acid free and as most of my posters are cheap, it's only fair the bags are too! The 4mil ones are also fairly rigid (although nothing like Mylar I imagine).

I really like sleeves - I used to kick myself for accidentally causing edge damage when handling posters and they have stopped this happening. They help flatten rolled posters and folded posters and keep things neat and tidy. My only slight concern is screen prints during the summer months, but I haven't seen any signs of paint transferring over to the bag...perhaps it's just not warm enough over here!
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
Mine cost me £30 and £45 ....

I never use bags in the chest, the posters lay on each other nicely..  


that cheap?  is this the chest? if so, that's really a good price....Where did you get it..IKEA?
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 03:45:25 PM
I'm guessing used on Craigslist Rosa... that is where many of us search for cheap flat file cabinets.  I found one for $75.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 03:45:25 PM
I'm guessing used on Craigslist Rosa... that is where many of us search for cheap flat file cabinets.  I found one for $75.


Harry, thanks a lot thumbup....I was going to check IKEA!
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 27, 2013, 04:28:39 PM
Or office salvage stores. They are a small fortune new, but when people are ready to get rid of them they can be found dirt cheap.

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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
No picked mine up on Ebay about 4 years back. When you get away from the capital prices on everything are much more realistic. And just for the record, I hate Ikea with a passion. I went once, worst shopping experience ever, a horrible place..


Harry this is a poster sleeve browser....

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/Pauls%20posters/browser_big_zps6d127ffb.gif)
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
I got you now Paul.  Thanks.

Someone really needs to figure out a better storage system.  One that allows flat storage, holds lots of posters, doesn't take up too much room, but also easy browsing.  Flat files meet 1, 2 & 3, and the Browser meets 1 & 4, but there really isn't anything that does it all.  The closest I can think of would be a flat file with a good photography setup and an online database. 
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
I got you now Paul.  Thanks.

Someone really needs to figure out a better storage system.  One that allows flat storage, holds lots of posters, doesn't take up too much room, but also easy browsing.  Flat files meet 1, 2 & 3, and the Browser meets 1 & 4, but there really isn't anything that does it all.  The closest I can think of would be a flat file with a good photography setup and an online database. 




I'm with you here. 100%.
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Post by: Silhouette on February 27, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 04:39:44 PM
Someone really needs to figure out a better storage system.  One that allows flat storage, holds lots of posters, doesn't take up too much room, but also easy browsing.  Flat files meet 1, 2 & 3, and the Browser meets 1 & 4, but there really isn't anything that does it all.  The closest I can think of would be a flat file with a good photography setup and an online database.  

I believe they are called Museums and/or Art Galleries.
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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 04:52:54 PM
There are vertical plan chests, you hang the plans/posters in hangers, which can be looked through like those commercial poster displays. The problem with these is they don't store as many posters as the flat file for the space they take up.

And you forgot to add Harry, 5. the flat file flattens the folds out of your posters over time, which is great... ;D
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Post by: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
Just hang or frame everything - yay!
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:52:58 PM
Just hang or frame everything - yay!


Not enough walls
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Post by: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 04:54:57 PM

Not enough walls

Use the ceiling and the floor too silly
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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
I must say though Harry,   Storage and display are two different things entirely...
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Use the ceiling and the floor too silly


done that already, silly
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
My criteria were for storage only -- the main thing missing there is how to browse the collection easily/safely.    
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Post by: Silhouette on February 27, 2013, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Use the ceiling and the floor too silly

Just have a high stud

(http://imprint.printmag.com/wp-content/uploads/kubrick-exhibit.jpg)

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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 27, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
My criteria were for storage only -- the main thing missing there is how to browse the collection easily/safely.    


Assign each draw a genre and then Alphabetise it, make a logbook of what is where, and you will know exactly where everything is....

Unlike me.. 
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Post by: CSM on February 27, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 05:05:01 PM

Assign each draw a genre and then Alphabetise it, make a logbook of what is where, and you will know exactly where everything is....

Unlike me.. 

I like the "put them all in the attic" plan though Paul ;)  It makes it a treasure hunt each time!
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Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
Thanks Chris, I'm glad you liked that plan.... ;D  Even though it cost me some hours on the hunt for single posters, I felt just like Indy....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 28, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 27, 2013, 04:59:20 PM
Just have a high stud

(http://imprint.printmag.com/wp-content/uploads/kubrick-exhibit.jpg)



outstanding display
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Post by: Mirosae on February 28, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
This looks like the BFI in London. Great place to look at posters, when they do decide to put up exhibitions!
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Post by: Silhouette on February 28, 2013, 06:00:20 PM
Los Angeles County Museum of Art on view until June 30, 2013

From the museum:

The exhibition covers the breadth of Kubrick’s practice, beginning with his early photographs for Look magazine, taken in the 1940s, and continuing with his groundbreaking directorial achievements of the 1950s through the 1990s. His films are represented through a selection of annotated scripts, production photography, lenses and cameras, set models, costumes, and props. In addition, the exhibition explores Napoleon and The Aryan Papers, two projects that Kubrick never completed, as well as the technological advances developed and utilized by Kubrick and his team. By featuring this legendary film auteur and his oeuvre as the focus of his first retrospective in the context of an art museum, the exhibition reevaluates how we define the artist in the 21st century, and simultaneously expands upon LACMA’s commitment to exploring the intersection of art and film.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 28, 2013, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 28, 2013, 06:00:20 PM
Los Angeles County Museum of Art on view until June 30, 2013

From the museum:

The exhibition covers the breadth of Kubrick’s practice, beginning with his early photographs for Look magazine, taken in the 1940s, and continuing with his groundbreaking directorial achievements of the 1950s through the 1990s. His films are represented through a selection of annotated scripts, production photography, lenses and cameras, set models, costumes, and props. In addition, the exhibition explores Napoleon and The Aryan Papers, two projects that Kubrick never completed, as well as the technological advances developed and utilized by Kubrick and his team. By featuring this legendary film auteur and his oeuvre as the focus of his first retrospective in the context of an art museum, the exhibition reevaluates how we define the artist in the 21st century, and simultaneously expands upon LACMA’s commitment to exploring the intersection of art and film.

I will have to make a trip over there. Looks great!  thumbup



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Post by: Starling on February 28, 2013, 11:12:02 PM
The Kubrick wall is very cool in person...just wish they had the 2 Kubrick posters I covet most: the Star Child in the Eye and the A Clockwork Orange Bookcover Poster...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
Godzilla, Japanese B2

BIN: $20,000.00 / obo  :o (Is this price out of the ballpark? Or can these sell for this kind of price?)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godzilla-King-of-the-monsters-original-Japanese-poster-/400327596922?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d35625b7a

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/9/8/1/3/9/3/webimg/601201807_o.jpg?nc=46)


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Post by: Silhouette on March 03, 2013, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
Godzilla, Japanese B2

BIN: $20,000.00 / obo  :o (Is this price out of the ballpark? Or can these sell for this kind of price?)


I'm sure it's a typo and they mean ¥20,000
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 02:08:17 PM
In the vein of the Marihuana poster, I find the graphics on this poster, for Assassin Of Youth (BCM Roadshow Prod, 1937), to be captivating. Great color and I Love the image of the distressed babe at the bottom. Greatly rendered, IMHO.

But it is a tloce sale with a BIN $14,000.00 price tag. (I grabbed a better image as his pictures are always not that great, with minimal lighting and sometimes a bit out of focus).

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/assassin_zpsc86f3ee0.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASSASSIN-OF-YOUTH-MARIJUANA-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-1937-RARE-/220930398967?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33707a5af7



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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2013, 02:29:19 PM
Probably a fake ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 03, 2013, 02:29:19 PM
Probably a fake ;)

Perhaps. Always that possibility.  ;)

But the image is great, imo.  thumbup
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 03, 2013, 02:03:58 PM
I'm sure it's a typo and they mean ¥20,000

I posted a message to Sean. If it's first release, price is not out of line and it definitely wouldn't be Yen. 20,000 yen is only about $200
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 03, 2013, 02:29:19 PM
Probably a fake ;)

poster is properly folded as can be seen in his photo. but that's all I can tell. I say before pronouncing it a fake, more questions should be asked of the seller. after all Chris, you don't want to taint an authentic poster, do you?
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
poster is properly folded as can be seen in his photo. but that's all I can tell. I say before pronouncing it a fake, more questions should be asked of the seller. after all Chris, you don't want to taint an authentic poster, do you?

Sure Rich ask Loce all the Q's you want - it's tainted by association already ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:23:15 PM
I didn't look at the seller, but it still could be authentic
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 03, 2013, 03:26:55 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
I posted a message to Sean. If it's first release, price is not out of line and it definitely wouldn't be Yen. 20,000 yen is only about $200

Well, from the description (and added English title) it is definitely not first release.  It was released in Japan in 1954.  In 1956 it was re-cut for the US with new scenes filmed by Raymond Burr as an American newspaper man covering the events -- presumably done so the Americans could watch one of their own and not have to read the subtitles!  In that release the movie was retitled from "Godzilla" to "Godzilla King of the Monsters".  This poster is supposedly a Japanese poster for the American cut of the film.  That would make this an early re-release.  I have no doubt that it is exceedingly rare as I'm sure not many Japanese people cared about watching their beloved film bastardized for US audiences.  

As to whether this is a fair value or not, I'll leave that to Sean.  
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 03, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
By the way Rich, I'm sure you know that back story... I just wanted to be clear for others reading this thread.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
I wasn't sure if that was the right poster Matt and what you said is correct, it is not the first release poster, it's the American version released in Japan in 1956.

If it was the original, the price would be right. In this case, the price is about 3-4-5 times value and this copy belonged to Sean until about 10 years ago when he sold it
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 03, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
this copy belonged to Sean until about 10 years ago when he sold it

No doubt because he found one in better condition!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 03:46:44 PM
A beautiful, (appears in unused condition) OS for Forbidden Planet:

BIN: $9995.00

The fold lines dont bother me, and i would not even consider having this linen backed. Just let those folds relax on their own.  ;)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FORBIDDEN-PLANET-UNUSED-ORIGINAL-1956-RELEASE-/00/s/MTExMFgxMDI0/$(KGrHqN,!i8FBhKRQrYUBQsqMVk7M!~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORBIDDEN-PLANET-UNUSED-ORIGINAL-1956-RELEASE-/170949088522?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cd5c150a
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 03, 2013, 03:45:11 PM
No doubt because he found one in better condition!

I don't think he currently owns a copy
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 03, 2013, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
I don't think he currently owns a copy

Wow, I find it hard to believe that Sean would give up a rare Godzilla poster!
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
I agree Jeff that's in fantastic condition!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 04:15:22 PM
The Sheik (Paramount, 1921); French 1P:   thumbup

BIN: $8500.00

(http://images.monstermarketplace.com/vintage-movie-memorabilia/the-sheik-1921-french-grande-poster-321x425.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SHEIK-First-Release-French-Poster-RUDOLPH-VALENTINO-Agnes-Ayres-1921-/370619440160?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564aa3dc20



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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2013, 04:27:36 PM
Yet another Double Indemnity US OS has appeared. Not backed or restored and only $8000.00 (obo):

(http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz5/buymovieposters/item-000477_zps768929e5.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOUBLE-INDEMNITY-1944-ONE-SHEET-CLASSIC-FILM-NOIR-MACMURRAY-STANWYCK-BEST-VF-/170987857357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cfaba5cd
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Post by: Starling on March 04, 2013, 05:56:53 PM
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/bddavis81/T2eC16JHJGwE9nySc7nBRLQ37Nm60_3_zps80cba540.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-of-Theatre-Poster-N1263-Bette-Davis-The-Letter-/370770579699?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5653a610f3


Well this is something I've never seen before...here is a vintage PHOTO of a poster I really want haha.  Maybe I can live vicariously through the previous owner:)
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Post by: 50s on March 04, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Starling on March 04, 2013, 05:56:53 PM
Well this is something I've never seen before...here is a vintage PHOTO of a poster I really want haha.  Maybe I can live vicariously through the previous owner:)

I have doubt about this poster's authenticity. The NSS details appear to have been conveniently trimmed off
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
I would have been interested in this photo, however it has clearly gone red and I only collect not-gone-red-photos

oh well.. the search continues
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Post by: CSM on March 04, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
Kathy should look harder
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2013, 10:37:01 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 04, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
I have doubt about this poster's authenticity. The NSS details appear to have been conveniently trimmed off

But at least we know that the photo measures in at a whopping 4.25" tall.  pcorn
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 04, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 04, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
Kathy should look harder

 :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 04, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
Not sure that craigslist is considered an auction per se and didn't think this needed its own thread (apologies if I was wrong), but came across this in my local craigslist:

Original, 1967 large french version Cool Hand Luke movie poster - $2400

(http://images.craigslist.org/3E63Ga3I25F65H75M5d2b90313a4afade1244.jpg) (http://images.craigslist.org/3F83Le3Ja5Lb5Ka5F2d2b7af2ff25677413dd.jpg)

Am leaving the country for a new job & selling my things.
My favorite movie, maybe one of yours too.
What we have here is... An original, 1967, very large, numbered, professionally backed at a cost of more than $1,000, French version Cool Hand Luke movie poster. Poster purchased in Paris, poster backed by John Annesley, California.
The poster alone cost $1,800.
The poster has not one flaw, the color is rich and beautiful, the backing is flawless.
Height 61 inches, 46 wide
$2,400 Firm.

Would that be considered a 6-sheet? Are those typically numbered? Is it normal to be mounted on a wood frame like that? Thought it was a nice poster, but nothing I could afford. Was just curious.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 04, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
It's a very common size - Thierry hates "French Grande", (63" x 47") It looks like the border is not there or folded back. I cant really make out the reverse side, but it looks to me like it is mounted on linen and stapled over the frame. That might explain the backing cost as it would have to include that frame for that price. I wouldn't want it, because it looks trimmed and I cant determine what restoration was done to it and it seems attached to the frame... maybe the linen buckled and then got mounted?... Not sure about the numbering, but there wouldn't be a unique number for every poster of the printing press.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 05, 2013, 12:02:19 AM
Thanks. I was also curious about the border. Almost looks like one of those canvas prints to me. I've never seen a LB'd poster, so I wasn't sure if the backside pic was showing wood or linen. Definitely a poster for a loft or such (imo), given the size.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
Hey Steve and Mike.. Just checked. It has not been trimmed. Looks to be a full bleed poster with no white border. Here's a copy Bruce sold back in Sept, 2012 for $415.00.

And what a great looking image, too!! :

 cheers

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA120911/550/french_1p_cool_hand_luke_HP01381_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 05, 2013, 12:38:21 AM
Sweet. Thanks, Jeff.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2013, 01:09:08 AM
Here's the place that seller mentions taking the poster to be backed and stretched onto that custom art panel. A cool looking site and company, too.

(http://www.johnannesley.com/images-DG/JohnAnnesleyLogo.jpg)

http://www.johnannesley.com/index.html

http://www.johnannesley.com/Strainers.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 05, 2013, 05:11:24 AM
Mmmm, interesting, thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2013, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 05, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
Hey Steve and Mike.. Just checked. It has not been trimmed. Looks to be a full bleed poster with no white border. Here's a copy Bruce sold back in Sept, 2012 for $415.00.

And what a great looking image, too!! :

 cheers



As mentioned, I find this image fantastic. I would take this over the US OS in a heartbeat.

This 1P kicks some major butt, IMO.   ;D

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA120911/550/french_1p_cool_hand_luke_HP01381_L.jpg)  (http://www.behindthehype.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/cool_hand_luke.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 05, 2013, 01:48:10 PM
Agreed. It's just too damn big. (the poster you sickos)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2013, 02:11:12 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 04, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
I cant really make out the reverse side, but it looks to me like it is mounted on linen and stapled over the frame.

yep.. they handled it as if it was an oil painting and the linen has been stretched over a frame or what is more properly called a stretcher. Is not uncommon and I have bought posters handled this way before. We don't like it for posters, but there is nothing wrong with it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 05, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2013, 02:11:12 PM
We don't like it for posters, but there is nothing wrong with it

"We?"
You got a Smeagol/Gollum thing goin' on there, Rich?

(http://imagenes.gifmania.com.pr/Gifs-Animados-Peliculas-Cine/Animaciones-Senor-Anillos/gollum1.gif)(http://www.forumsextreme.com/images2/aLR_Gollum.gif)(http://imagenes.gifmania.com.pr/Gifs-Animados-Peliculas-Cine/Animaciones-Senor-Anillos/gollum1.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2013, 03:17:35 PM
posters are all my preciouses
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 05, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: pratschm on March 04, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
Not sure that craigslist is considered an auction per se and didn't think this needed its own thread (apologies if I was wrong), but came across this in my local craigslist:

Original, 1967 large french version Cool Hand Luke movie poster - $2400

(http://images.craigslist.org/3E63Ga3I25F65H75M5d2b90313a4afade1244.jpg) (http://images.craigslist.org/3F83Le3Ja5Lb5Ka5F2d2b7af2ff25677413dd.jpg)

Am leaving the country for a new job & selling my things.
My favorite movie, maybe one of yours too.
What we have here is... An original, 1967, very large, numbered, professionally backed at a cost of more than $1,000, French version Cool Hand Luke movie poster. Poster purchased in Paris, poster backed by John Annesley, California.
The poster alone cost $1,800.
The poster has not one flaw, the color is rich and beautiful, the backing is flawless.
Height 61 inches, 46 wide
$2,400 Firm.

Would that be considered a 6-sheet? Are those typically numbered? Is it normal to be mounted on a wood frame like that? Thought it was a nice poster, but nothing I could afford. Was just curious.

[/quote

i actually like it.. !
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 06, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
Found this odd: a double-sided vinyl banner with different titles on each side? I've never heard of that. Anyone?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OZ-Vinyl-Movie-Banner-2012-/321084423576?_trksid=e11010.m444&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6045286075340393488&_qi=RTM1240450
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 06, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
Why is Schindler's List over $2000?  Seriously, did the demand for that poster all of the sudden go through the roof?  It hasn't been a year since I recall asking the same question as to why it went over a grand.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 06, 2013, 11:21:23 PM
It went over $2,000 last time too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on March 07, 2013, 03:04:43 AM
Quote from: pratschm on March 06, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
Found this odd: a double-sided vinyl banner with different titles on each side? I've never heard of that. Anyone?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OZ-Vinyl-Movie-Banner-2012-/321084423576?_trksid=e11010.m444&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6045286075340393488&_qi=RTM1240450

This is standard for current disney releases.  They sent a 'banner holder' to theaters and swap in new banners every so often.  When the one on the front comes out, you simply turn the display around... I have a Toy Story 3 adv banner with some crappy teen flick on the back.

This one looks like it 'disappeared' early...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 07, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
I give up...  It ain't worth that much and I am sure it will go higher.  Twice now this poster escapes me.  I mean why not save and go after the orange one?   hitself

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2891518

And stupid money for the third printing?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2891520
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 07, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Patience, Charlie.

Your day will come.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 07, 2013, 09:28:53 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 07, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
Patience, Charlie.

Your day will come.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100917233512/starwars/images/e/e0/Yoda_SWSB.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 07, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
those Mad Max daybills are ugly posters
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on March 07, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 07, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
those Mad Max daybills are ugly posters

Fixed that for ya
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 07, 2013, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 07, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
Fixed that for ya

 ;D That was a good one.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 07, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 07, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
 hitself

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2891680

Thanks again Z!  T was right Armin deserves another bump...

http://www.posteroid.com/
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 07, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Consignments are welcome!

It could be all of you getting these prices!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on March 07, 2013, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 07, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
hitself

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2891680

Thanks again Z!  T was right Armin deserves another bump...

http://www.posteroid.com/

Armin, like Canada Dave aka posteropolis has very fair listed prices on his site.
No need to dicker, all starts fair.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 07, 2013, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 07, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
hitself

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2891680

Thanks again Z!  T was right Armin deserves another bump...

http://www.posteroid.com/

 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
Young Frankenstein (20th C Fox, 1974), US 7 sheet (84x91 inches):

BIN: $16,500.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/YOUNG-FRANKENSTEIN-1974-Movie-Poster-ONLY-KNOWN-TO-EXIST-ARTIST-PROOF-ORIGINAL-/06/!B6i+wJg!2k~$(KGrHqF,!hEEysDlN3(RBM)uiRlBbQ~~_3.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YOUNG-FRANKENSTEIN-1974-Movie-Poster-ONLY-KNOWN-TO-EXIST-ARTIST-PROOF-ORIGINAL-/390542248824?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item5aee21cb78
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 08, 2013, 11:39:53 PM
7 sheet?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 08, 2013, 11:39:53 PM
7 sheet?

Yes.  ;)

I wasnt familiar with that size either, until I read the description from the above poster:

"The Seven-Sheet:

An out-of-home poster display primarily used in the mid-1970s. Out-of-home means outdoor print advertising: billboards, kiosks, sunshelters, etc. Also includes other venues accessible to the public: malls, airports, transit systems, supermarkets, toy stores, etc. Distribution, format and sizes of out-of-home movie posters are separate from those displayed at theaters. The out-of-home media industry requires studios to rent display space whereas movie theaters do not.

Seven-sheets were used in urban neighborhoods. Often confused with theatrical six -sheets. Intended for domestic use."




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 12:02:09 AM
I sold a 1958R Snow White 7 sheet a while back and there is a Star Wars 7 sheet. Dave may have it pictured on his site

the YF piece however is not a 7 sheet. It's either a one-off as the listing says that just happens to be that size, or it is a banner. It's for video release according to the listing, so it's more likely a banner unless it was never produced, which just makes it a test print.

of course, the price is completely insane as are all Miniver prices
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: FightClub12 on March 09, 2013, 02:01:44 AM
So I've finally made it through all 158 pages of this thread. It's a good one..


Quote from: eatbrie on January 29, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
It is not a selling moratorium, Chris.  It is about the fact that I'm fucking lazy and refuse to deal with the US post office.  I also don't want to dig into my piles, pull out stuff, tube it, write labels and other shit like that.  I could sell a lot of my stuff, especially all the doubles, but it is waaaaay too time consuming.  Plus, since I'm baked half the time, I would probably send stuff to wrong addresses.

T

I've got all the time in the world Thierry (obviously); I'll head over to write labels and other shit like that while you blaze up.  pcorn


-FC
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ps. on March 09, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
perhaps these might appeal to some of you (as might the fact that they are all auctions)...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDky/z/CRMAAMXQySpROLNp/$T2eC16VHJGkE9no8h,(zBROLNoCnH!~~60_12.JPG)

i'm personally not that into this movie, so you all can have a go at it if you'd like. click here for the auction link, starting bid is 100 euros. (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026479934?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1a33e&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MzA0WDIxNA==/z/c~cAAMXQjWtROLWM/$(KGrHqN,!k0FD4Q1jDDNBROLWLfpt!~~60_12.JPG)

same starting price...larger italian poster here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026485106?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1b772&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093).

seller also has a breakfast at tiffany's that looks to be on canvas....here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/111026486693?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1bda5&_uhb=1#ht_1816wt_1080).

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/00/s/MTQwN1gxMzAw/z/o6EAAMXQlUNROLXY/$(KGrHqR,!j!FESeF0V0-BROL((t9rg~~60_12.JPG)

i'd figure i'd share as they all will probably go out of my price range anyways, and some of you guys might be interested in them.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 09, 2013, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: ps. on March 09, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
perhaps these might appeal to some of you (as might the fact that they are all auctions)...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDky/z/CRMAAMXQySpROLNp/$T2eC16VHJGkE9no8h,(zBROLNoCnH!~~60_12.JPG)

i'm personally not that into this movie, so you all can have a go at it if you'd like. click here for the auction link, starting bid is 100 euros. (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026479934?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1a33e&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MzA0WDIxNA==/z/c~cAAMXQjWtROLWM/$(KGrHqN,!k0FD4Q1jDDNBROLWLfpt!~~60_12.JPG)

same starting price...larger italian poster here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026485106?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1b772&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093).

seller also has a breakfast at tiffany's that looks to be on canvas....here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/111026486693?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1bda5&_uhb=1#ht_1816wt_1080).

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/00/s/MTQwN1gxMzAw/z/o6EAAMXQlUNROLXY/$(KGrHqR,!j!FESeF0V0-BROL((t9rg~~60_12.JPG)

i'd figure i'd share as they all will probably go out of my price range anyways, and some of you guys might be interested in them.




I like these movies, so thanks for sharing! :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 12:15:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
Yes.  ;)

I wasnt familiar with that size either, until I read the description from the above poster:

"The Seven-Sheet:

An out-of-home poster display primarily used in the mid-1970s. Out-of-home means outdoor print advertising: billboards, kiosks, sunshelters, etc. Also includes other venues accessible to the public: malls, airports, transit systems, supermarkets, toy stores, etc. Distribution, format and sizes of out-of-home movie posters are separate from those displayed at theaters. The out-of-home media industry requires studios to rent display space whereas movie theaters do not.

Seven-sheets were used in urban neighborhoods. Often confused with theatrical six -sheets. Intended for domestic use."


I carefully re-read the Miniver's description on the YOUNG FRANK piece; per his info, this was a theatrical release poster, not one for any type of video release. He also says that it originally came in sections and was later assembled and attached to linen.

If it was like other 7 sheets, it probably was in 4 sections, like this unbacked 7sh that Cinemasterpieces currently is offering for Star Wars:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/sw7oct09_zps55a53fae.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: ps. on March 09, 2013, 10:08:42 AM
perhaps these might appeal to some of you (as might the fact that they are all auctions)...

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MTYwMFgxNDky/z/CRMAAMXQySpROLNp/$T2eC16VHJGkE9no8h,(zBROLNoCnH!~~60_12.JPG)

i'm personally not that into this movie, so you all can have a go at it if you'd like. click here for the auction link, starting bid is 100 euros. (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026479934?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1a33e&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/00/s/MzA0WDIxNA==/z/c~cAAMXQjWtROLWM/$(KGrHqN,!k0FD4Q1jDDNBROLWLfpt!~~60_12.JPG)

same starting price...larger italian poster here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-IL-BUONO-IL-BRUTTO-IL-CATTIVO-/111026485106?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1b772&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1093).

seller also has a breakfast at tiffany's that looks to be on canvas....here (http://www.ebay.it/itm/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/111026486693?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item19d9b1bda5&_uhb=1#ht_1816wt_1080).

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-COLAZIONE-DA-TIFFANY-/00/s/MTQwN1gxMzAw/z/o6EAAMXQlUNROLXY/$(KGrHqR,!j!FESeF0V0-BROL((t9rg~~60_12.JPG)

i'd figure i'd share as they all will probably go out of my price range anyways, and some of you guys might be interested in them.




As long as people are digging up old posts from this thread... here is another one:

Quote from: Harry Caul on April 29, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Regarding [the outing of] the Creature poster [auction]... Are we really going to do this again?  I'll save this thread 8 more pages of argument...

Rich, Mel and others will say it [outing in-progress auctions] doesn't matter.

Me, Paul, Ben and others will say it very well could [affect other member's bids and what they have to ultimately pay].

Each person repeats their argument 20 times.

The point is no one knows [if outing the auction caused a fellow APF member to have the price run up on them].  However, even if the chance is small -- minuscule even -- why would you ever risk fucking over a friend?  [If you find a cool item that you think someone here might want,] PM those who might be interested.  Wait until the auction is over with your "OMG!, LOL!, or WTF!" story.  As far as I'm concerned legit auctions with low starting bids that APF member will likely be watching/bidding on do not fit those criteria [for this thread -- stick with stuff that is ridiculously priced or suspect and let normal auctions run their course]...

I added in some [clarifications] to help round out that old post.  Just an FYI as there have been dust ups here before.  Remember that at any given time there are probably 5-10 times as many guests on this forum as there are members.  If you think you are helping members out by posting auctions here, you are probably doing the opposite.  I'll get off my soapbox now. 

As for these particular auctions, I have definitely seen them already -- and while they may very well be legit, I would suggest that anyone interested bid with caution.  The seller has zero feedback.  He has listed these and removed them before.  And his TGTBATU silver 4-foglio image was stolen from here: http://www.misterposter.com/thirddett_new.asp?mycollection=ibibic&id=MY001C

No doubt they'll go for a bundle regardless... if they aren't pulled early again.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 09, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Harry, you don't have to step off your soap box, it maybe something some of the new fellows need to understand, as one day it may well cost them more money to buy a certain poster, or worse yet, be out bid. Due to someone outing an auction...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
well if you say no one can post auctions in progress, then you almost completely cut off the APF member whose entire history here is to post links to auctions or post pics & texts from other people's websites without any attribution and never has an original or educational post about anything that he wrote himself.. what do you expect that person to do then???
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ps. on March 09, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 09, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Harry, you don't have to step off your soap box, it maybe something some of the new fellows need to understand, as one day it may well cost them more money to buy a certain poster, or worse yet, be out bid. Due to someone outing an auction...

well, i must apologize then for 'outing' the auction. someone w/ such power greater than mine can feel free to remove the links. i figured that most here aren't keeping an eye on ebay.it, certainly didn't intend to do a disservice to anyone :tailbetweenmylegs: i'll go back to keeping my mouth shut.

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
well if you say no one can post auctions in progress, then you almost completely cut off the APF member whose entire history here is to post links to auctions or post pics & texts from other people's websites without any attribution and never has an original or educational post about anything that he wrote himself.. what do you expect that person to do then???

understood, in my defense though if you were to require all posts to be educational, there'd be a lot less going on here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
well if you say no one can post auctions in progress

I'm not saying anything of the sort.  There are no rules against posting in-progress auctions and I'm not going to stop you.  I'm just asking people to be courteous of other members here and think twice before posting items with fair opening prices -- especially if your reasoning is that you think you are "helping" a member here who might end up the winner.  If you truly want to help, send a PM.  Even if the first person declines, it won't take long to locate the someone who is interested.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: ps. on March 09, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
well, i must apologize then for 'outing' the auction. someone w/ such power greater than mine can feel free to remove the links. i figured that most here aren't keeping an eye on ebay.it, certainly didn't intend to do a disservice to anyone :tailbetweenmylegs: i'll go back to keeping my mouth shut.

Please don't do that ps.  If you read back through the thousands of posts in this thread you'll find that we've had some multi-page dust ups over this topic in the past.  I was just trying to post a friendly reminder of some of the potential consequences for fellow members of posting in-progress auctions.  In retrospect, my 'friendly' comment ended up making me sound like a dickhead. 

Please just chalk this up as old forum baggage and continue posting as is.  I'm ALWAYS happy to see more people contributing!  cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ps. on March 09, 2013, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:32:08 PM
Please don't do that ps.  If you read back through the thousands of posts in this thread you'll find that we've had some multi-page dust ups over this topic in the past.  I was just trying to post a friendly reminder of some of the potential consequences for fellow members of posting in-progress auctions.  In retrospect, my 'friendly' comment ended up making me sound like a dickhead. 

Please just chalk this up as old forum baggage and continue posting as is.  I'm ALWAYS happy to see more people contributing!  cheers

well i shouldn't have posted it, no ill will.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: ps. on March 09, 2013, 03:41:34 PM
well i shouldn't have posted it, no ill will.

Good, I definitely didn't mean to scare anyone off.  And by the way, Rich's comment wasn't directed at you either -- that was a very specific dig at another forum member he has butt heads with in the past.  Sorry for singling out your post to stir up old shit. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 03:54:09 PM
Quote from: ps. on March 09, 2013, 03:26:08 PM
understood, in my defense though if you were to require all posts to be educational, there'd be a lot less going on here.

all posts do not need to be educational.. most should be fun. however, people who constantly post other people's work - be it an image taken from a website or a book, or texts taken from same, should at least be able to post information & attribution to the actual authors. Not doing so is taking credit for the work by omission. Being as the person in question actually works in the entertainment industry - the industry most likely to sue others for even the least invasive plagarism - you would think it a simple belief to attribute others for their work.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
A beautiful  bed1 image of Rita Hayworth in Cover Girl (Columbia, 1944), Italian 2 foglio (39x55) with Ballester art:

BIN: $19,470.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FASCINO-COVER-GIRL-MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-1EDIZIONE-1948-BALLESTER-ART-RARISSIMO-/00/s/MTM1MlgxMDAz/z/YuwAAMXQfFJRMbp2/$T2eC16V,!)cE9s4PtnhtBRMbp102ZQ~~60_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FASCINO-COVER-GIRL-MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-1EDIZIONE-1948-BALLESTER-ART-RARISSIMO-/190543738520?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item2c5d4ab698
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
A beautiful image of Rita Hayworth in Cover Girl (Columbia, 1944), Italian 2 foglio (39x55) with Ballester art:

BIN: $19,470.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FASCINO-COVER-GIRL-MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-1EDIZIONE-1948-BALLESTER-ART-RARISSIMO-/00/s/MTM1MlgxMDAz/z/YuwAAMXQfFJRMbp2/$T2eC16V,!)cE9s4PtnhtBRMbp102ZQ~~60_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FASCINO-COVER-GIRL-MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-1EDIZIONE-1948-BALLESTER-ART-RARISSIMO-/190543738520?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item2c5d4ab698

Hot stuff... Rita is bombshell!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 09, 2013, 05:26:33 PM
That is a gorgeous piece of art.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 09, 2013, 05:33:21 PM
Beautiful.... both, poster and Ms Gilda.. ..  bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 09, 2013, 05:34:10 PM
Rita was special for sure!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
I really like the color tinted areas of the b/w photo that were used on this half sheet for Douglas Fairbanks' version of Robin Hood (UA 1922):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Robin-Hood-1922-Original-Movie-Poster-Half-Sheet-RARE-/320454840194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a9c98cf82

BIN: $12,995.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/161_zpsc67d2e72.jpg)




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 09, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:32:08 PM

Please just chalk this up as old forum baggage and continue posting as is.  I'm ALWAYS happy to see more people contributing!  cheers


Just to be clear, you want people to contribute but only in ways that you agree with, such an not "outing" auctions, right?  In the other thread about "the history of the hobby", you mentioned that you'd like to hear some cool stories from people who may or may not already be members here.  What happens if they share stories that expose some of their methods on how they acquired stuff (methods may be of limited knowledge that only a few people including you know) through something like low profile auctions, such as an auction where a lot of Star Wars posters sold for $50?  Would you chastise them the same as you did PS?  Stuff like that may be a reason why a lot of the guests choose to not be members here, because they don't want to be criticized for sharing some information that someone may not agree with.

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 02:42:09 PM

Remember that at any given time there are probably 5-10 times as many guests on this forum as there are members.  If you


Regarding sharing information with "guests", what dictates the information they are worthy enough to receive, in your opinion?  The people who whine about guests seeing something here are probably not telling them they can't bid on items that the same members are selling and guests are bidding on.  How do you say that they should be "allowed" to be privy to some information shared here but not all?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 08:14:53 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 09, 2013, 07:45:45 PM

Regarding sharing information with "guests", what dictates the information they are worthy enough to receive, in your opinion?  The people who whine about guests seeing something here are probably not telling them they can't bid on items that the same members are selling and guests are bidding on.  How do you say that they should be "allowed" to be privy to some information shared here but not all?

+1, Neo.  ;)

And who is to say that certain "guests" that visit APF from time to time may not already be registered bidders with Bruce, HA or ebay? Many probably are. Just because they aren't yet members on APF doesn't mean they dont buy, bid and win at the above mentioned auction sites.  8)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Neo, if that is really what you think my argument boils down to -- that I'm somehow pro exclusivity, elitism & censorship -- then no amount of my explanation is going to convince you.  All the best buddy.

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
I'm not saying anything of the sort.  There are no rules against posting in-progress auctions and I'm not going to stop you.  I'm just asking people to be courteous of other members here and think twice before posting items with fair opening prices -- especially if your reasoning is that you think you are "helping" a member here who might end up the winner.  If you truly want to help, send a PM.  Even if the first person declines, it won't take long to locate the someone who is interested.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 03:32:08 PM
Please don't do that ps.  If you read back through the thousands of posts in this thread you'll find that we've had some multi-page dust ups over this topic in the past.  I was just trying to post a friendly reminder of some of the potential consequences for fellow members of posting in-progress auctions.  In retrospect, my 'friendly' comment ended up making me sound like a dickhead. 

Please just chalk this up as old forum baggage and continue posting as is.  I'm ALWAYS happy to see more people contributing!  cheers

You're such a dickwad Matt!  ;)

But yes I do believe you have spelled it out in the nicest way possible
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 09, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Just to be clear, you want people to contribute but only in ways that you agree with, such an not "outing" auctions, right?  In the other thread about "the history of the hobby", you mentioned that you'd like to hear some cool stories from people who may or may not already be members here.  What happens if they share stories that expose some of their methods on how they acquired stuff (methods may be of limited knowledge that only a few people including you know) through something like low profile auctions, such as an auction where a lot of Star Wars posters sold for $50?  Would you chastise them the same as you did PS?  Stuff like that may be a reason why a lot of the guests choose to not be members here, because they don't want to be criticized for sharing some information that someone may not agree with.

Regarding sharing information with "guests", what dictates the information they are worthy enough to receive, in your opinion?  The people who whine about guests seeing something here are probably not telling them they can't bid on items that the same members are selling and guests are bidding on.  How do you say that they should be "allowed" to be privy to some information shared here but not all?

Uh Matt was clearly not chastizing PS.  It was a preemptive friendly tap on the shoulder - a protective 'heads up' if you will. 

Here is a real example of chastization:

If people choose to remain guests they likely have nothing worthwhile to share and/or they enjoy being leeching parasites.  Take and take and take and give nothing back...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 09, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
All that I can say is... as a new member or relatevely new... the sort of comments made in earlier threads do put me off quite a bit. And perhaps the question here is well Rosa, who cares?  Well, I do. Because I quite like apf. I see it takes time to learn all the rules written, explicit or implicit.  And please, don't take me wrong, I can see both sides of the argument around sharing or not this info. I am here for the bargain too. I am a buyer, so less well known auctions suit me fine!

But there must be a way to express those arguments in a way that enables others to have a view too, and without personal attacks. And yes, there are new people around that might not be that familar with every single thread and argument and all the rest of it.

I like apf very much, but i think that i will have to think twice before posting, which is a good thing perhaps, but then, all where is all the fun huh?

That's all I wanted to say and will say on this matter.. I am in a rather sad mood now (well, not so sad thanks to Ted's gifs, but do please spare me any harsh responses, at least for today. Though, so you know, on this issue I will say no more.


click

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 09:45:42 PM
+1

Quote from: NeoLoco on March 09, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Just to be clear, you want people to contribute but only in ways that you agree with, such an not "outing" auctions, right?  In the other thread about "the history of the hobby", you mentioned that you'd like to hear some cool stories from people who may or may not already be members here.  What happens if they share stories that expose some of their methods on how they acquired stuff (methods may be of limited knowledge that only a few people including you know) through something like low profile auctions, such as an auction where a lot of Star Wars posters sold for $50?  Would you chastise them the same as you did PS?  Stuff like that may be a reason why a lot of the guests choose to not be members here, because they don't want to be criticized for sharing some information that someone may not agree with.

Regarding sharing information with "guests", what dictates the information they are worthy enough to receive, in your opinion?  The people who whine about guests seeing something here are probably not telling them they can't bid on items that the same members are selling and guests are bidding on.  How do you say that they should be "allowed" to be privy to some information shared here but not all?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 10:06:03 PM
-1 (to even it out)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 09, 2013, 10:19:36 PM
Every collector for himself in a public forum.. PM the ones you think might be interested.  Pretty much everyone that sticks around long enough can figure out what other members collect. Just the other day Tob PMd me about a title I was after...

I can see where Matt is coming from it takes a lot of work to monitor all the different eBay sites.  Heck I even see a diffenrence when Bruce puts specifics posters up on his nobody has bid on this one yet. It does make a difference...

But all that being said every newb makes the same mistake I did the same thing outing a very nice daybill auction when I first joined. We did it out of our desire to make friends by helping your new community out. Honorable action I must say but the longer you stick around you will realize it was out of place.  Don't tuck your tail and run, learn and push on..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 10:31:56 PM
Rosa, don't afraid to say what you want or to post what you want or to out auctions if you want

practically every subject here has people on different sides of an issue.. sort of like........ life!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: FightClub12 on March 09, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
So...

What's your guys opinion on building that 'cultural center/mosque' near ground zero?!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnj0ppql9l1qe2cnyo1_400.gif)


 hitself
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Post by: brude on March 09, 2013, 10:48:49 PM
 laugh1 laugh1
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Post by: kovacs01 on March 09, 2013, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: FightClub12 on March 09, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
So...

What's your guys opinion on building that 'cultural center/mosque' near ground zero?!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnj0ppql9l1qe2cnyo1_400.gif)


 hitself

and now we know why he calls himself fight club.  well done, sir!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 11:00:37 PM
lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 09, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 09:13:43 PM

Neo, if that is really what you think my argument boils down to -- that I'm somehow pro exclusivity, elitism & censorship -- then no amount of my explanation is going to convince you.  All the best buddy.


You just ignored what I asked and came to your own conclusion about what I think your argument boils down to.  

I was basically asking how you justify talking out of both sides of your mouth, and talking about guests like they're unwanted, undeserving, etc.  Many of the guests are most likely a more integral part of the hobby than the members, considering the fact that only a few dozen people here regularly join in on the fun, and there are obviously a lot more people involved to make this stuff as fun as it is.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on March 09, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
I`m willing to take a temp ban on outing this one..

Probably one of the most sought after posters out there...
Metropolis (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLADES-OF-GLORY-WILL-FERRELL-JON-HEDER-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-film-POSTER-mint-/151005503126?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2328a11e96)

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 09, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
talking about guests like they're unwanted, undeserving, etc.  Many of the guests are most likely a more integral part of the hobby than the members, considering the fact that only a few dozen people here regularly join in on the fun, and there are obviously a lot more people involved to make this stuff as fun as it is.

couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 09, 2013, 11:06:34 PM
You just ignored what I asked and came to your own conclusion about what I think your argument boils down to.  

I was basically asking how you justify talking out of both sides of your mouth, and talking about guests like they're unwanted, undeserving, etc.  Many of the guests are most likely a more integral part of the hobby than the members, considering the fact that only a few dozen people here regularly join in on the fun, and there are obviously a lot more people involved to make this stuff as fun as it is.

Who is ignoring what I wrote to form their own conclusions?

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
Remember that at any given time there are probably 5-10 times as many guests on this forum as there are members.  If you think you are helping members out by posting auctions here, you are probably doing the opposite.

That was the only statement I made about guests.  Who said unwanted, undeserving?  Oh yeah, you did. 

When posting on a forum you are inherently communicating with the other personalities that communicate back.  If your intention is to help those people you are communicating with -- which is the most common 'pro' people list for outing an auction -- then I'm just reminding people that they are speaking to a lot more people than they might at first realize.  Most people don't bother checking the stats... I know I didn't until I started reading that argument earlier in this thread.  I was shocked that we had so many guests. 

My comment was not about exclusivity or treating guests as second class citizens... it was about whether or not outing an auction is truly helpful to the the people you intend it to be.  But whatever, you've formed your conclusions about what I wrote and filled in any of the gaps yourself.  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 11:53:13 PM
everyone is equal.. logged member or fly-by-night guest.
when I speak, I speak to the world..

goodbye cruel world.. you suck...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 10, 2013, 12:08:38 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 11:37:54 PM

If your intention is to help those people you are communicating with -- which is the most common 'pro' people list for outing an auction -- then I'm just reminding people that they are speaking to a lot more people than they might at first realize.


Thanks for clarifying that part of the question, HC.  I just kinda interpreted it as similar to when Archie Leach said

Quote from: archie leach on March 06, 2012, 06:16:26 PM
Guests get a bad rap because they do not add anything to the discussion.  They take without giving. They expend no effort to reap rewards.  Screw 'em.

Several other times it has come up where people have shared similar feelings toward guests, and I thought you were implying something like that, but I see what you mean now.  You also have to look at the fact that people may want to help the community as a whole, and not just a couple dozen of the members, even if they say that's their intention.

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 11:37:54 PM

Who is ignoring what I wrote to form their own conclusions?



The part you were ignoring was the part that I asked how you want people to join in here, and share stories, etc., but you also only want certain information shared.  These big harangues unfold when people share stuff you and others with similar opinions don't agree with sharing that information, and people who don't regularly join in here might not want to because they don't want to be involved in that kind of thing.  I actually know a few guys who are very knowledgeable about cars and they stopped going on forums, where they shared some really good, helpful information, because of the altercations that unfolded.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 12:09:49 AM
I think the key here is informative vs. inflamatory/derogatory.  I think HC was intending to be informative letting a new-ish member know that he might possibly step in a pile of doo-doo by posting auctions, thereby giving them higher visibility and a greater hammer price.  I do not think his intent was to be critical, inflamatory, derogatory, or exclusionary towards any group here.  

Unfortunately for Matt, we live in an over-sensitized, politically correct, cater-to-every-view type of world.  Point out the fact that someone might be doing something untoward has become untoward.  Simply by giving a craniums up, folks started assuming that Matt was one of the people who would be somehow upset about the outing if an auction.  I do not believe this is true because I think Matt long ago stopped using ebay to try to find great deals.  It is evident in the type of paper that her regularly acquires.

Anyway, that is my $.02, both as a moderator and a collector, for what its worth.  And if anyone feels that I am being opprobrious, feel free to call me out; but, do not be surprised if I leave a horse head on your pillow.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
Opprobrious?
Jeezum, I had to look that one up.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 10, 2013, 12:23:06 AM
I myself saved the auctions just in case they got taken down... I think everyone knew what was coming HC just was the first guy to speak up...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 10, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 12:09:49 AM

I think the key here is informative vs. inflamatory/derogatory.  I think HC was intending to be informative letting a new-ish member know that he might possibly step in a pile of doo-doo by posting auctions, thereby giving them higher visibility and a greater hammer price.  I do not think his intent was to be critical, inflamatory, derogatory, or exclusionary towards any group here.  


Agreed.  HC is an alright guy, and he's not one of the adjectives you mentioned above.  He really wasn't "chastising" the guy, I apologize for saying that, it was just bad timing for him to be critical of someone's comment, considering the new "history of the hobby" thread, and more or less "informing" someone to not make such a comment.  We don't all have to agree with the "not outing auctions" etiquette, it just makes for a lot of people biting their tongue, when that's kind of the antithesis of a place like this, and the other thread, where it would be really cool to hear some classic stories about this stuff.
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 10, 2013, 12:49:56 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 10, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
We don't all have to agree with the "not outing auctions" etiquette, it just makes for a lot of people biting their tongue, when that's kind of the antithesis of a place like this, and the other thread, where it would be really cool to hear some classic stories about this stuff.

Everyone wants to hear great stories... that is what the post-auction thread is for :)

I don't want to drag this out and I don't like to go to bed angry, so please just remember that I'm not arguing for censorship, just thoughtfulness and courtesy when posting. cheers
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Post by: CSM on March 10, 2013, 12:52:05 AM
Quote from: brude on March 10, 2013, 12:20:53 AM
Opprobrious?
Jeezum, I had to look that one up.


Yeah - that's impressive!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 03:14:22 AM
here's some food for thought.

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Post by: Matt on March 10, 2013, 03:41:33 AM
And your third point Rich relates to those members who DON'T POST AT ALL but are in it for the information via PM'S to active members.

Anyone received any of those?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 03:52:39 AM
no, my third point is that there are many people who post who post nothing, so they contribute no more than those who just stop by to read
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 10, 2013, 03:57:27 AM
Sorry Rich, then I'm making that point. ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 04:04:43 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 03:14:22 AM
false dichotomy

You probably needed to look this term up before using it in a sentence.

By definition, a false dichotomy has two halves, options, or conclusions often presented as an either/or or if/then statement when in reality it should be an "if this, or this, if this, or that, then this or, or this, or that."  The single option you presented does not make up a dichotomy, and I fail to see what is false about living by someone else's rules to protect their interest.  It may not be the smartest thing, but it does not contain the logical fallacy that constitutes the "false" portion of a false dichotomy

False dichotomy: If I do not sell this gas guzzling truck, then I am not going to be able to put food on the table.

Truth: Either I sell this truck, sell my house, get a better job, stop snorting the blow, collect my wife's life insurance, etc or.........

They are heard daily by TV advertising trying to trick John Q. Public into buying a product.

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Post by: Neo on March 10, 2013, 04:07:03 AM
Well summed up, Rich. thumbup
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 04:19:54 AM
Kovacs.. the dichotomy is that they want you to live by their rules, but you want to live by your own.
it is a word that has different meanings and can be used in variant ways, much like  Opprobrious also has variant usage

and yes Neo.. I thought that was pretty much it. Realistically, there are few actual contributors to any forum by membership % and I fail to see how any of them are more important than any of the others. How about this, I know several people who stop by here to read and are not members, but who are in the film industry. Maybe their contribution to this forum was upstream in a different  way than direct contribution to this forum. Maybe the resident plagarist here has taken images or texts from the film maker's webpage, linked to a youtube video or quoted from the films they have worked on. Does that not mean they have a contribution?

Over at the CGC boards, which have tens of thousands members, there used to be a rule that you couldn't complain on the boards about people talking about current auctions<<< how do you like that rule!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 04:23:23 AM
I wonder why no one posted about the Murder My Sweet hs that popped up on ebay and ended a couple days ago. It popped up the day after I posted how I had only seen that poster twice before and I have one of the ones I had seen. It went for a low price
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Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
And I'm very pleased with the price I got it for, thanks to no one outing it... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 04:33:46 AM
Quote from: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
And I'm very pleased with the price I got it for, thanks to no one outing it... ;)

?????

am I missing something here?

ps. I might add, I know exactly who won the MMS hs.. it ain't you

 ;)
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Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 04:36:08 AM
Shhhh :-X ;)
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Post by: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 06:26:58 AM

My 2 cents:

1.  The mid-auction thread was started by Bruce.  Obviously, Bruce believed that such a thread would
    draw more attention to his auctions = higher prices.

2.  Since this thread has continued for over two years, then the powers that be have not
     established a "non-outing" rule.

3.  There seems to be about 100 more guests at anytime logged in than members. Unless, David thinks
     this number is inflated like MPF.   wynk

4.  I agree that PM's work better, but the occasional "hey look at this" won't cause the Earth to stop  
     spinning.

5.  Hearing Rich argue about the usage of a "false dichotomy" is amusing.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 06:51:40 AM
Quote from: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 06:26:58 AM
5.  Hearing Rich argue about the usage of a "false dichotomy" is amusing.

I thought Kovacs arguing about the usage was amusing myself, though I wouldn't quite say it was opprobrious
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
  Holy Cow, when do you sleep Rich!  Do you have a cell phone app that rings you everytime someone on APF yanks your chain?  It is 7am here, the forum clock has not sprung forward.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 06:26:58 AM
My 2 cents:

1.  The mid-auction thread was started by Bruce.  Obviously, Bruce believed that such a thread would
    draw more attention to his auctions = higher prices.

2.  Since this thread has continued for over two years, then the powers that be have not
     established a "non-outing" rule.


When people complained right after I started it (as a joke) I told them to delete it. They didn't. I never use it to publicize my auctions, and hardly anyone else does (unless it is to point out something that has gone too high).

It is still fine with me to delete this thread.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 10, 2013, 09:10:58 AM
This thread is an abomination, it should be deleted
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 09:51:22 AM
Quote from: 50s on March 10, 2013, 09:10:58 AM
This thread is an abomination, it should be deleted


Why not simply take a vote among those who post regularly (like 50 posts the past month, or some number)?

I vote to delete it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on March 10, 2013, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 09:51:22 AM
Why not simply take a vote among those who post regularly (like 50 posts the past month, or some number)?

I vote to delete it.
Why restrict voting.?
Every member is equal.


Stew
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
Absolutely. We should care about those who take but never give. That IS the American way, after all.

OK, let everyone vote. Maybe it will cause lurkers to finally post.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on March 10, 2013, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
Absolutely. We should care about those who take but never give. That IS the American way, after all.

OK, let everyone vote. Maybe it will cause lurkers to finally post.
Nice way to treat guests...

Stew

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Post by: ps. on March 10, 2013, 11:34:10 AM
i awoke this morning to discover that my ill-begotten post of yesterday provided quite the fodder for overnight discussion. and while i'd ordinarily gladly accept responsibility for bringing about a philosophical debate over the equality of man (ala registered v. guest), and the usage of such fancy rhetoric (opprobrious...i'm much impressed), this time i do so with a heavy heart.

i fully understand both sides of the argument and can sympathize with both parties. though i don't anticipate ever reaching all that high of a post count, perhaps i'll better get to know some of you so that i don't need to use the public thread. one thing i do know for sure is that i won't be stirring up this debate ever again.

anyway, that is all...please resume whatever normalcy existed before i arrived here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 10, 2013, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: ps. on March 10, 2013, 11:34:10 AM
anyway, that is all...please resume whatever normalcy existed before i arrived here.

oK nO wORRIES

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Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 12:27:19 PM
Don't worry PS this topic will come up again......., and again....., and again....., and....well you get the picture... ;)

I say let the guests decide weather to delete it....   If they post it stays, if they don't it goes.... :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 10, 2013, 12:31:16 PM
One surefire way to get it deleted (or locked) is to turn it into a gambling thread.  Who's up for that?  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
I bet they won't delete it... 8)
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Post by: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 02:27:14 PM

Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 09:01:05 AM
, and hardly anyone else does (unless it is to point out something that has gone too high).


 laugh1.  Gotta love that self-deprecating sense of humor.  I think it is a given, that certain well known auction houses do enough promoting, that chatter about what is low really has no impact. One cannot really out a M/M or a Signature.  And I think it would be too hard to out a weekly auction, since prices rise dramatically in the last ten minutes.

  I think the culprit would be ebay and craigslist where some sellers have no idea about posters and have the price set really low.  Occasionally those slip through to those who invest the time.  But I have no horse in this race since I do not scour the Earth for bargains.


Brian


Brian
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 02:29:34 PM
I was talking about THIS THREAD only. Obviously I promote my auctions in the two appropriate places (Dealer's Forum and For Sale), but nowhere else.

Isn't that how it should be?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 10, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 10, 2013, 12:31:16 PM
One surefire way to get it deleted (or locked) is to turn it into a gambling thread.  Who's up for that?  8)

Wanna bet that the admins won't delete it?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Did you not see my bet Matias...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 10, 2013, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 10, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Did you not see my bet Matias...

Damn, I didn't  eyeroll
I bet it won't happen again  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2013, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on March 10, 2013, 02:30:35 PM
Wanna bet that the admins won't delete it?  ;)

Hey Matias, I bet the admins wont delete this thread.   cheers

 wynk


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 10, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
BALLOT -LET ME ASK

So, in the hypothetical case that there was an auction say on a Casablanca 6 Sheet. And say, in the hypothetical case that one particular APF member might want to discuss the mid-auction progress of that poster (not sure who that might be by the way).....

You all saying that there is no way or place in this forum, where these discussion could take place? If so, then fine. But I am just asking because there could be some HYPOTHETICAL mid-action analysis that I thought might be worth discussing...

Not sure if I am allowed to vote here. Am I.. or I am not.. If so, I am cool either way.

My final say on this matter will be that I do not believe in censorship. But I believe in DEMOCRACY. That's my sin.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 03:12:18 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 10, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
BALLOT -LET ME ASK

So, in the hypothetical case that there was an auction say on a Casablanca 6 Sheet. And say, in the hypothetical case that one particular APF member might want to discuss the mid-auction progress of that poster (not sure who that might be by the way).....

You all saying that there is no way or place in this forum, where these discussion could take place? If so, then fine. But I am just asking because there could be some HYPOTHETICAL mid-action analysis that I thought might be worth discussing...

Not sure if I am allowed to vote here. Am I.. or I am not.. If so, I am cool either way.

My final say on this matter will be that I do not believe in censorship. But I believe in DEMOCRACY. That's my sin.


According to Mel, once it goes over $1000, its ok.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 10, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
Rosa - you will need to read through this LONG thread (unfortunately) to get a better sense of the argument on both sides.

It's "outing" those obscure auctions at seemingly low bids that causes ire amongst those that don't agree with it.  A Heritage auction (and specifically a Casablanca 6 sheet at a Heritage auction) is extremely high profile and obviously does not fit the bill.  

For me (as the earlier arguments went over substantially) it's posting an unnoticed or low profile auction that that person has no intention of bidding on that creates the most angst!

My opinions of course...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 10, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
It has nothing to do with censorship or democracy (although of course in reality democracy has heavy doses of censorship) - it's about etiquette - as the arguments have stated.

PM functionality is there for a reason...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 03:12:18 PM
According to Mel, once it goes over $1000, its ok.

Please do not drag me into this never-ending argument.  I'll just say that Holiday decreed long ago that there are no restrictions. I respect that certain people - and you know who you are - do occasionally find stellar bargains from obscure sources.  I think the appropriate compromise is to limit discussions of pending auctions to reasonably-prominent and reasonably-publicized auctions like the recent Dewey Law Firm auction.  Yes, it's impossible to precisely define what "reasonable" is but just use common sense.

I agree with Brian there's no reason to limit discussion of major Emovie/Heritage auctions.  

As far as Ebay, I'd check the number of watchers on WatchedItem.com, number of bidders, value, etc. before discussing it.  At a certain point, it becomes clear that it will go to fair market value and it's silly to restrict discussion of it.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 10, 2013, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 10, 2013, 03:18:06 PM


PM functionality is there for a reason...

Chris, agree that the PM functionality is there for a reason. That's why I have used it with you.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 03:39:46 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Please do not drag me into this never-ending argument.  

Sorry, next time I will simply quote what you said before.  You long ago dragged yourself into it.  I was only attempting to answer Rosa's question by pointing out what another member had decided was an appropriate threshold for posting an in progress auction.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: pratschm on March 04, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
Not sure that craigslist is considered an auction per se and didn't think this needed its own thread (apologies if I was wrong), but came across this in my local craigslist:

Original, 1967 large french version Cool Hand Luke movie poster - $2400

(http://images.craigslist.org/3E63Ga3I25F65H75M5d2b90313a4afade1244.jpg) (http://images.craigslist.org/3F83Le3Ja5Lb5Ka5F2d2b7af2ff25677413dd.jpg)

Am leaving the country for a new job & selling my things.
My favorite movie, maybe one of yours too.
What we have here is... An original, 1967, very large, numbered, professionally backed at a cost of more than $1,000, French version Cool Hand Luke movie poster. Poster purchased in Paris, poster backed by John Annesley, California.
The poster alone cost $1,800.
The poster has not one flaw, the color is rich and beautiful, the backing is flawless.
Height 61 inches, 46 wide
$2,400 Firm.

Would that be considered a 6-sheet? Are those typically numbered? Is it normal to be mounted on a wood frame like that? Thought it was a nice poster, but nothing I could afford. Was just curious.


Hey Mike, are you in NorCal?
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Post by: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 05:03:56 PM

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 10, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
I agree with Brian there's no reason to limit discussion of major Emovie/Heritage auctions.  



 Oh my, the reasonable thought of Jesusland has infiltrated Mel's core. Don't worry Mel, your DC cynicism will return by the end of the weekend.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 10, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 10, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
BALLOT -LET ME ASK

So, in the hypothetical case that there was an auction say on a Casablanca 6 Sheet. And say, in the hypothetical case that one particular APF member might want to discuss the mid-auction progress of that poster (not sure who that might be by the way).....

You all saying that there is no way or place in this forum, where these discussion could take place? If so, then fine. But I am just asking because there could be some HYPOTHETICAL mid-action analysis that I thought might be worth discussing...

Not sure if I am allowed to vote here. Am I.. or I am not.. If so, I am cool either way.

My final say on this matter will be that I do not believe in censorship. But I believe in DEMOCRACY. That's my sin.


HYPOTHETICALS:
1. What if you found a previously unknown Casablanca 6-sheet in a small local auction with a starting bid of $100?
2. What if said previously unknown copy was on eBay listed in the wrong category and they spelled it Casa Blanca, also with a starting bid of $100?   
3. What if it was one of two known copies in a HA's high profile and widely publicized signature auction and had a starting of bid of $30k and an estimate of $60-120k? 

For each of these questions, would you A) bid on the item and B) discuss it here BEFORE the auction ended?

Obviously I presented some pretty black and white situations.  The questions get more interesting as the profiles of the auctions and the starting prices increase.  What is the cutoff before you decide to discuss publicly?  What if you only had $5k to spend on posters and we are talking about Hypothetical 1, but with an opening price of $10k?  Having already left your price range, would you decide to discuss it here publicly before the auction ended?  Would you PM other members you knew to be interested in Bogart?  What if you suspected another member or two might discover it as well, would you still take it public? 

The point is there are lots personal judgement calls in that grey area... I'm just asking people to be considerate of other members before posting.  Even if a poster has left your price range, it might still be a bargain to another member.  You gain or lose nothing at that point by waiting a few days until the auction has ended to post.  Food for thought...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 05:42:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 10, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 05:42:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ)

Don't complain to us Bruce... you LITERALLY started it!   ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 10, 2013, 05:47:36 PM
Don't complain to us Bruce... you LITERALLY started it!   ;D

Then shouldn't I be allowed to end it?

 qip happy1 laugh1 woohoo cool1

 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 10, 2013, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 10, 2013, 05:41:28 PM
HYPOTHETICALS:
1. What if you found a previously unknown Casablanca 6-sheet in a small local auction with a starting bid of $100?
2. What if said previously unknown copy was on eBay listed in the wrong category and they spelled it Casa Blanca, also with a starting bid of $100?   
3. What if it was one of two known copies in a HA's high profile and widely publicized signature auction and had a starting of bid of $30k and an estimate of $60-120k? 

For each of these questions, would you A) bid on the item and B) discuss it here BEFORE the auction ended?

Obviously I presented some pretty black and white situations.  The questions get more interesting as the profiles of the auctions and the starting prices increase.  What is the cutoff before you decide to discuss publicly?  What if you only had $5k to spend on posters and we are talking about Hypothetical 1, but with an opening price of $10k?  Having already left your price range, would you decide to discuss it here publicly before the auction ended?  Would you PM other members you knew to be interested in Bogart?  What if you suspected another member or two might discover it as well, would you still take it public? 

The point is there are lots personal judgement calls in that grey area... I'm just asking people to be considerate of other members before posting.  Even if a poster has left your price range, it might still be a bargain to another member.  You gain or lose nothing at that point by waiting a few days until the auction has ended to post.  Food for thought...



Of course Matt, there are many hypothetical situations and not right or wrong answers and far too many grey areas. My point is simply this. Let's not forget that there is another side to every argument. We also need to be considerate of others who might decide to go public with their findings. For whatever reason, whether they will buy it or not.

My preferred choice is, and it has always been using the PM system anyway.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on March 10, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
 Holy Cow, when do you sleep Rich!  Do you have a cell phone app that rings you everytime someone on APF yanks your chain?  It is 7am here, the forum clock has not sprung forward.

no I go to sleep around 3am my time. that is 6am your time. it was daylight savings time, so you lost an hour
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
I don't even know why it's a discussion. Holiday & Thierry have already said multiple times that the thread exists and they will make no restrictions.

you live with the rules you have, or lack of.
If you want the thread to disappear, stop posting in it. If you don't want to read what's in it you don't have to.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
Holiday & Thierry have already said multiple times that the thread exists and they will make no restrictions.

Because lacking restrictions does not have to mean that everyone acts without restraint.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
I'm conspiring right now to reveal hundreds of auctions in this thread that people are interested in and don't want anyone to know about. I recommend everyone start posting links to Raymond Chandler posters I need to exact revenge upon me.

to follow through on my threat, I know there are hundreds of 99 cents no reserve auctions going on right now at the link below as well as set sale items by others

http://www.movieposterbid.com

I also know there are auctions here
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Originals-United-States-/18829/i.html?LH_Auction=1&_catref=1&_ipg=200&_mdo=Entertainment-Memorabilia&_mspp=&_pcats=196%2C45100&_sc=1&_sop=10&_trksid=p3286.c0.m301

one poster just listed at that second link is for this cool Superman mylar poster. I find it humorous that the seller includes a line stating that the art is by Bob Peak.. lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMAN-THE-MOVIE-MYLAR-FOIL-ADVANCE-ONE-SHEET-POSTER-1978-Reeve-Brando-/130866177086?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e783b643e
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Post by: Zorba on March 10, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
Because lacking restrictions does not have to mean that everyone acts without restraint.

 clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 10, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
Here is what I have found

If you sell 10 posters for every 1 you buy you prefer people to out auctions maybe because one may be yours where as if you buy 10 for every one you sell OR are still a very active buyer it pisses you off!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 10:29:33 PM
Dale, I don't think I have ever seen a poster outed that I wanted to buy, and I buy alot of posters (although the last year or so I have slowed down, largely because the things I need are rarer than those I don't).

I also do not mind paying what I need to pay for an item to get it, as long as that price is something I will pay.
I also do not believe anyone has ever seen me gripe about losing a poster in an auction. I only gripe when I forget tio set up a snipe, which I did last month on something I went to sleep reminding myself to check when I got up. It was freakin Weds.. too otherwise focused
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 09:47:37 PM
I find it humorous that the seller includes a line stating that the art is by Bob Peak.. lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERMAN-THE-MOVIE-MYLAR-FOIL-ADVANCE-ONE-SHEET-POSTER-1978-Reeve-Brando-/130866177086?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e783b643e

I was under the impression that Peak redesigned the original logo.
Sure looks like his work.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: brude on March 10, 2013, 10:30:02 PM
I was under the impression that Peak redesigned the original logo.
Sure looks like his work.


the Peak illustrations are in the center of the poster
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 10:34:06 PM
the Peak illustrations are in the center of the poster

What does that mean?
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Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 10:54:59 PM
That's a joke son. You got a hole in your glove. He keeps pitching 'em and you keep missing 'em!

http://www.youtube.com/v/KTwnwbG9YLE
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Post by: pratschm on March 10, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 03:59:45 PM
Hey Mike, are you in NorCal?

Nope, Midwest. As another member pointed out to me, they have also seen this item (cool hand luke) on their craigslist. Looks like this one might be spammed all over the place. I don't think the listing actually mentions where the seller is moving from. Buyer beware, I guess.
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 11:00:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 10:54:59 PM
That's a joke son. You got a hole in your glove. He keeps pitching 'em and you keep missing 'em!

I'm playin' him, Bruce.
The Superman logo is by Peak.
The seller has this poster listed correctly.
 wynk
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 11:19:41 PM
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/01/21/Superman.jpg)  whip
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Post by: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: pratschm on March 10, 2013, 10:55:12 PM
Nope, Midwest. As another member pointed out to me, they have also seen this item (cool hand luke) on their craigslist. Looks like this one might be spammed all over the place. I don't think the listing actually mentions where the seller is moving from. Buyer beware, I guess.

Yeah, I saw it listed on Monterrey craigslist.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2013, 11:22:52 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 11:20:49 PM
Yeah, I saw it listed on Monterrey craigslist.

It was also listed down here on the Los Angeles CList, too.
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Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 10, 2013, 11:20:49 PM
Yeah, I saw it listed on Monterrey craigslist.

Now, how's he do this multi-regional posting?
We're prohibited from posting in more than one craigslist area here in NY.
Anyone know how to do it?
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 11, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
Quote from: brude on March 10, 2013, 11:24:22 PM
Now, how's he do this multi-regional posting?
We're prohibited from posting in more than one craigslist area here in NY.
Anyone know how to do it?


Just change your title/text around slightly.  It's not a very sophisticated system to bypass...
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Post by: FightClub12 on March 11, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
Quote from: 50s on March 10, 2013, 09:10:58 AM
This thread is an abomination, it should be deleted


Quote from: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 09:51:22 AM
Why not simply take a vote among those who post regularly (like 50 posts the past month, or some number)?

I vote to delete it.


This debate makes me wanna

(http://deadlymovies.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/groundhog-day-suiside-montage.jpg)



I don't have 50 posts, but my vote is - Delete. Do it Bruce.


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Post by: kovacs01 on March 11, 2013, 03:16:13 AM
Quote from: FightClub12 on March 11, 2013, 12:59:15 AM

Do it Bruce.




I do not think anyone with the power to remove it is going to do so.
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Post by: 50s on March 11, 2013, 03:47:27 AM
This thread saddens me. It has turned me to despair (and to alcohol). This is a case in point why governments around the world must censor the internet NOW! Sorry, this thread is a blight on our society and most especially on the entire poster collecting community. Like global warming, I fear we have let this thread go on beyond our capability to prevent our own annihilation.  :(

 
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 11, 2013, 04:08:52 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 10:29:33 PM
Dale, I don't think I have ever seen a poster outed that I wanted to buy, and I buy alot of posters (although the last year or so I have slowed down, largely because the things I need are rarer than those I don't).

I also do not mind paying what I need to pay for an item to get it, as long as that price is something I will pay.
I also do not believe anyone has ever seen me gripe about losing a poster in an auction. I only gripe when I forget tio set up a snipe, which I did last month on something I went to sleep reminding myself to check when I got up. It was freakin Weds.. too otherwise focused


I think this is very true..I feel the same way...I have been buying nonstop every week for the last 10 years...and I  have never ever seen a poster "outed" that I wanted...and please "out" posters for me ..the rarer the better...so I don't have to aimlessly search and waste time......I feel that if you really want something that is rare and you have to have it for your collection, you will go all out to win it ..or you will be one of the underbidders...I personally don't buy posters that I'm just getting for the hell of it because it's a deal...I have no horse in that race....in a true auction format you will never know if you are going to "get a deal" until the auction is over anyway...whether it's outed or not..this thread is hilarious btw
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Post by: Ari on March 11, 2013, 04:20:30 AM
Pretty much how I feel, I buy so rarely these days, and on the rare occasion something is available that I "need" I'd like to know about it.
If not by PM or email. then this thread would be about as good.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 11, 2013, 09:23:01 AM
so...moving on now...
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Post by: Ari on March 11, 2013, 09:36:46 AM
I saw an auction in eBay today, it was awesome, but I forget what it was now.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 11, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
that chilli-pot will kill ya one day.....
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Post by: paul waines on March 11, 2013, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on March 11, 2013, 04:08:52 AM

I think this is very true..I feel the same way...I have been buying nonstop every week for the last 10 years...and I  have never ever seen a poster "outed" that I wanted...and please "out" posters for me ..the rarer the better...so I don't have to aimlessly search and waste time......I feel that if you really want something that is rare and you have to have it for your collection, you will go all out to win it ..or you will be one of the underbidders...I personally don't buy posters that I'm just getting for the hell of it because it's a deal...I have no horse in that race....in a true auction format you will never know if you are going to "get a deal" until the auction is over anyway...whether it's outed or not..this thread is hilarious btw

I know what your saying, as I will go over the top for stuff I need, but as something that you bid on weekly/monthly, why pay £200 for a £100 poster. This is just crazy, we all like a bargain, but paying over the odds for more than a one off is not good sense, unless your loaded, and then who cares...
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Post by: Neo on March 11, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 11, 2013, 09:23:01 AM
so...moving on now...

Yep, let's get back to Mr. Bogart.  :P
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Post by: pratschm on March 11, 2013, 01:37:27 PM
So what's the policy on outing auctions around here? Anyone have any strong feelings one way or the other?
















 laugh1 deadhorse laugh1 deadhorse laugh1 deadhorse laugh1 deadhorse laugh1

Sorry, I had to. :P
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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
Wasnt sure to advertise this one or not.. but oh well... here goes.. and it's a BIN:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-TRIP-TO-THE-MOON-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-THE-ONLY-KNOWN-ORIGINAL-IN-EXISTENCE-/390542248796?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aee21cb5c

(http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/24/3b/bc36_1.JPG)

BIN: $525,000.00 :o :o  (and not even a best offer option included!  :'(   )



Or this Empire Strikes Back 8 sheet (5x11 feet) for only $72,000.00 BIN

(http://i14.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/24/c0/703f_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-1-RAREST-Star-Wars-THE-EMPIRE-STRIKES-BACK-POSTER-1980-LA-Premiere-8-SHEET-/390542248752?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aee21cb30




 cheers       wynk
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Post by: ps. on March 11, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
Wasnt sure to advertise this one or not.. but oh well... here goes.. and it's a BIN:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-TRIP-TO-THE-MOON-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-THE-ONLY-KNOWN-ORIGINAL-IN-EXISTENCE-/390542248796?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aee21cb5c

(http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/24/3b/bc36_1.JPG)

BIN: $525,000.00 :o :o  (and not even a best offer option included!  :'(   )


well you can't argue the seller's line of reasoning on this one:

"Buying this poster is ECONOMY PROOF! Why waste your money in the stock market? It can crash regardless of any decision you make and can even crash regardless of any decision made by the company related to the stock - Leaving you with a near worthless piece of paper that won't inspire anyone! [mind you this is the stock certificate we're talking about] With the purchase of an historic document such as this Trip To The Moon, it doesn't matter what happens to the economy, you will still have the inspirational document which can be displayed and enjoyed. The magnificence of art and historic documents have an inherent value that relates to civilization and society. Unless civilization itself crashes then this piece will hold its value and if civilization itself crashes - Who will care about money? This poster is definitely ECONOMY PROOF!" [emphasis added]

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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
He says that about almost everything he sells... they are all economy-proof.   ;D
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Post by: ps. on March 11, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
He says that about almost everything he sells... they are all economy-proof.   ;D

you know, i almost have a problem believing him now that you say that. lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 11, 2013, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 11, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
Yep, let's get back to Mr. Bogart.  :P




Neo, well put... I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship...  ;)
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Post by: paul waines on March 11, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Of all the threads on all the forums, you had to post that in mine....   


Post it Sam,......... you posted it for her, now post it for me.... ;)
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Post by: FightClub12 on March 11, 2013, 08:49:29 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on March 11, 2013, 03:16:13 AM
I do not think anyone with the power to remove it is going to do so.



To whomever has the power:
Give it to me, and I'll do what you shoulda did 10 minutes ago..


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiwcNtuR8YND9ws9Peaxv-ommEv3FEhH0eX8S_BGMyQVGhiL5H)

 ;)

K back to Bogart, momentarily.
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Post by: pratschm on March 11, 2013, 10:50:39 PM
Mint condition right there, folks. Mint. Condition.

Quote
The posters are in mint condition still in the original box-roll where they came.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Scream-the-movie-original-poster-from-1996-in-mint-condition-the-real-deal-24x36-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJBME8e-J5%29BzBPMUzRtrHg~~60_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scream-movie-original-poster-1996-mint-condition-real-deal-24x36-/300874096809?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6181086729074625690%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D330883285664%26

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Post by: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: pratschm on March 11, 2013, 10:50:39 PM
Mint condition right there, folks. Mint. Condition.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Scream-the-movie-original-poster-from-1996-in-mint-condition-the-real-deal-24x36-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqNHJBME8e-J5%29BzBPMUzRtrHg~~60_12.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scream-movie-original-poster-1996-mint-condition-real-deal-24x36-/300874096809?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6181086729074625690%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D330883285664%26



And 24x36 to boot!  ;)

pcorn
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Post by: pratschm on March 11, 2013, 11:20:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 11, 2013, 10:54:10 PM
And 24x36 to boot!  ;)

pcorn

Right on! thumbup
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Post by: Louie D. on March 12, 2013, 12:39:15 AM
Lot of crybabies 'round these parts.
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Post by: Zorba on March 12, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on March 12, 2013, 12:39:15 AM
Lot of crybabies 'round these parts.

Yes and I will add to the river of tears.

It is early but I must make my concession speech. It is already clear that I will not be getting the two posters I REALLY wanted in Bruce's auctions tonight. Grats to the guys or gals who do.
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Post by: 50s on March 12, 2013, 08:16:31 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 12, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Yes and I will add to the river of tears.

It is early but I must make my concession speech. It is already clear that I will not be getting the two posters I REALLY wanted in Bruce's auctions tonight. Grats to the guys or gals who do.

That is sad Zorba. Have people no kindness in their hearts? Those posters may be destined to become kitty tray liners after the wife finds out about their purchases.


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Post by: Zorba on March 12, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 12, 2013, 08:16:31 PM
That is sad Zorba. Have people no kindness in their hearts? Those posters may be destined to become kitty tray liners after the wife finds out about their purchases.




Cruel bastards!  :P

The beauty of poster collecting is that it can be enjoyed 24/7 all across the entire globe. I think I may go grab something I have been watching from a BIN ebay bin or maybe from some international source to get me fix. Yeah no matter how hard I try to save for the big buy I need to feed.

Never look back baby.   
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
This 30x40 City Lights has picked up 50 watchers and several bidders (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-RARE-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-CITY-LIGHTS-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-LITTLE-TRAMP-NR-/230944079310) after just 2 days with 8 days to go.  What is it?  It's some kind of re-release because 20th Century Fox was not formed until 1935, four years after the original 1931 release.  I can't find a previous sale.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/City%20Lights.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/5lacks5.jpeg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/5lacks.jpeg)
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Post by: Ari on March 12, 2013, 09:33:58 PM
The tagline also is a reissue giveaway
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 12, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
I'm guessing the 50 rerelease
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ps. on March 12, 2013, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
This 30x40 City Lights has picked up 50 watchers and several bidders (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-RARE-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-CITY-LIGHTS-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-LITTLE-TRAMP-NR-/230944079310) after just 2 days with 8 days to go.  What is it?  It's some kind of re-release because 20th Century Fox was not formed until 1935, four years after the original 1931 release.  I can't find a previous sale.


could be wrong, but my guess would be that it's an indian poster:

no idea of the year, but if you look at a 70s indian re-release, you'll notice that it shares: a) the tagline, b) typography of 'city lights' and c)crediting the director/writer as charlie, not charles:

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/20060418/550/indian_city_lights_R70s.jpg)
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/2467109.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: ps. on March 12, 2013, 09:36:30 PM
could be wrong, but my guess would be that it's an indian poster

That was exactly my thought process and conclusion... including finding the past eMovie Indian sale for comparison.  I'd guess 50s/60s Indian. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 12, 2013, 09:49:52 PM
You can tell that Indian paper from a mile away. An earlier re-release than the other, but it screams 1960s to me.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2013, 10:03:14 PM
Other than being rolled, how do we know this is a reprint?  Quick, earn your poster geek gold star....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Attack%20Woman.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Attack2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 10:07:13 PM
No folds
Bottom border is missing (probably undersized printing)
No registration marks in the corners
Presumably no stamp on the back

There are probably more tells, but I stopped reading the listing after seeing that it was rolled.
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Post by: 50s on March 12, 2013, 10:25:41 PM
Credits text color bluer than it should be?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2013, 10:29:56 PM
HC nailed it, as usual.  The registration marks are the real giveaway.  The blue colors on the cars are also slightly different. Still it's quite a good reprint....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Compare2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 13, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 12, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
This 30x40 City Lights has picked up 50 watchers and several bidders (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-RARE-CHARLIE-CHAPLIN-CITY-LIGHTS-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-LITTLE-TRAMP-NR-/230944079310) after just 2 days with 8 days to go.  What is it?  It's some kind of re-release because 20th Century Fox was not formed until 1935, four years after the original 1931 release.  I can't find a previous sale.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/City%20Lights.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/5lacks5.jpeg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/5lacks.jpeg)


I think this is beautiful. Whatever it is. It has the perfect Chaplin look

I am going through a Chaplin moment these days...
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Post by: paul waines on March 13, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 13, 2013, 12:19:22 PM

I am going through a Chaplin moment these days...

It happens when you reach a certain age... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 13, 2013, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 13, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
It happens when you reach a certain age... ;)



But.. I am just 21!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: GemGem on March 13, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Same here!!! I'm only 29 but I've loved Chaplin all my life! I'm looking for a decent looking City Lights poster but every artwork I've found is terrible. Remake or not... this is a beaut!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on March 13, 2013, 12:44:58 PM
Yes, the twenties, that's when you Girls get those Chaplin moments.... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 13, 2013, 01:13:44 PM
Quote from: GemGem on March 13, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Remake or not... this is a beaut!

It is a beauty, but if you are bidding you'll probably get lots of competition from people who haven't done their homework and think it is more rare/expensive than it is. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on March 13, 2013, 05:13:42 PM
Quote from: GemGem on March 13, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Same here!!! I'm only 29 but I've loved Chaplin all my life! I'm looking for a decent looking City Lights poster but every artwork I've found is terrible. Remake or not... this is a beaut!

I agree.  That's why I ended up going with this from the '50s release of Modern Times with the Tramp walking off into the sunset...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/archieleach/posters/moderntimesUS1959re-release.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/archieleach/posters/moderntimesUS1959re-releasecloseup.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 13, 2013, 08:11:39 PM
This is one of my fav too. It captures well the essence of the film. Fabulous  bed1

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on March 13, 2013, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: GemGem on March 13, 2013, 12:43:30 PM
Same here!!! I'm only 29 but I've loved Chaplin all my life! I'm looking for a decent looking City Lights poster but every artwork I've found is terrible. Remake or not... this is a beaut!

While we know what you mean, just for clarity it's reissue rather than remake, not that it matters, but might confuse some kids who love the new LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT or whatever.

:)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on March 14, 2013, 01:42:46 AM
I once tried to bid on this but due to my address not being in the correct country, they would not accept my bid.  It sold for something like $15.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G1Rzx7_BD54/TMzNPkGqoZI/AAAAAAAAFeY/5yTiwH-8-ow/s800/modern%2520times.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 14, 2013, 02:10:23 AM
The li'l Tramp sure did have a way with women.
Seems he still does.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcpndaBWbN1r2muq4o1_500.gif)

The backside of that poster sure looks like a Hindi to me.
That alone might make it more rare than any of us might realize.  I'll bet it fetches at least $300.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 14, 2013, 04:00:38 AM
Thats a good one Ted. 8)..all I can say is...whatever Chaplin does it works ..at least with this one woman

 ;)

City Lights and Gold rush ...and so many more .. bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: GemGem on March 14, 2013, 06:42:53 AM
Quote from: Ari on March 13, 2013, 10:25:29 PM
While we know what you mean, just for clarity it's reissue rather than remake, not that it matters, but might confuse some kids who love the new LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT or whatever.

:)

Sorry yes REISSUE!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on March 16, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WAY-OF-THE-DRAGON-UK-QUAD-BRUCE-LEE-ORIGINAL-KUNG-FU-POSTER-ACTION-/370774456068?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIG-BOSS-UK-QUAD-BRUCE-LEE-ORIGINAL-KUNG-FU-POSTER-ACTION-FILM-KARATE-/370774453065?_trksid=e11010.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DMRU-11232%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D370774456068%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6289167423878866510&_qi=RTM1240446

You can find em cheaper........
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 16, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
Agreed Tang, but those looked to be in very nice condition.  If you can find that Big Boss style in similar condition for less, please let me know.  cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2013, 06:42:56 PM
Trouble Makers (Monogram, 1949); US OS:

Starting bid: $70,000.00
BIN: $100,000.00
 :o :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trouble-Makers-1949-Original-Poster-/221200367660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338091c02c

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Trouble-Makers-1949-Original-Poster-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/LBYAAMXQgb1RPgkX/$T2eC16R,!yUE9s6NFH6PBRPgk(YhN!~~60_57.JPG)

Bruce has sold a few of these. The highest one went for $65.00 in March, 2010.  ;)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: oldposterho on March 17, 2013, 07:50:04 PM
I dunno, those Bowery Boys fans are pretty much "money is no object" collectors.  He could get it.  Plus, it's got to be a better investment than the stock market.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2013, 08:17:33 PM
 happy1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on March 17, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
He says he has yet to find another one.

Please show him these four (and the prices they sold for!).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 17, 2013, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 17, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
He says he has yet to find another one.

Please show him these four (and the prices they sold for!).

I did, Bruce.  ;)

I wrote the seller with your link, earlier today. Maybe he fell over from the reality check..LOL
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on March 17, 2013, 10:58:02 PM
I don't think he is taking questions from the cheap seats
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on March 17, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
I think all his previous sales speak for themselves. Oh wait...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on March 18, 2013, 11:20:14 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 17, 2013, 10:55:41 PM
I did, Bruce.  ;)

I wrote the seller with your link, earlier today. Maybe he fell over from the reality check..LOL

I did the same thing as well.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2013, 03:27:06 PM
Just in case anyone was looking at this, the seller has this described as a first release poster in France, for Whom the Bell Tolls (Paramount, 1943).

This is actually a later re-release, as it contains a Visa de Censure No (1769) and shows as being distributed by Universal. Paramount distributed this in France, in 1947, during its first run there. :)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Original-FOR-WHOM-THE-BELL-TOLLS-Movie-Poster-Hemingway-art-1sh-Bergman-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjE0/z/7RoAAOxyoA1RQioq/$T2eC16N,!zUE9s389ykWBRQiopbuQg~~60_1.JPG)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200906463588
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2013, 01:34:56 PM
The Seller is still vague on these, not committing to a year, but I looked into these and also messaged the seller 4-5 months ago, that these are later, 70's or early 1980s reprints, featuring the b/w artwork from the original, 1939 US OS.

Just an FYI, in case anyone was thinking of dropping $150. (obo) here.  uhno

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUND-OF-THE-BASKERVILLES-ORIGINAL-1939-WINDOW-CARD-BASIL-RATHBONE-NIGEL-BRUCE-/230950866389?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c5be8dd5

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HOUND-OF-THE-BASKERVILLES-ORIGINAL-1939-WINDOW-CARD-BASIL-RATHBONE-NIGEL-BRUCE-/00/s/OTcxWDU5MA==/z/NfMAAMXQySpRS04G/$T2eC16ZHJHgE9n0yG+pDBRS04GC4gw~~60_57.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 23, 2013, 08:36:49 AM
Tarzan already at $65,000, double what it sold for in October 2012 at a smaller auction:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Tarzan%20-%20mid.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/TarzantheApeMan_zps9a7641b4.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on March 23, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
Which one of you got that City Lights seller to end early?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on March 23, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
What poster for City Lights?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 23, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
While were at it. I want to know who bought out that German Apocalypse Now Brando wetting his head poster. Bastardo  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 23, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 23, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
While were at it. I want to know who bought out that German Apocalypse Now Brando wetting his head poster. Bastardo  :P

This one?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321089911920?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

It was a fake according to a discussion on MOPO.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 23, 2013, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 23, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
This one?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321089911920?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

It was a fake according to a discussion on MOPO.

Yes!

Dodged that bullet.  ;D

I need to read mopo more often.

Oh and thanks Matt for the info.

Added bonus. This just reminded me to turn off Live bidding on Heritage.  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on March 23, 2013, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 23, 2013, 02:06:53 PM
This one?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/321089911920?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

It was a fake according to a discussion on MOPO.

I was watching that auction too and have had interesting exchanges with both the seller and Helmut today. Helmut has the utmost credibility as regards his knowledge of the history of this dubious reprint so I had a lucky escape too.

Mark 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on March 23, 2013, 03:47:41 PM
I appear to be getting a few of emails at the moment with the subject "Auction Outbid Notice:..."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 23, 2013, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 23, 2013, 03:47:41 PM
I appear to be getting a few of emails at the moment with the subject "Auction Outbid Notice:..."

I get them from EMP, since I bid in the last 5 or 10 minutes they have been coming through after the auction is closed

 
Title: Heritage Illustration Art for Posters
Post by: holiday on March 23, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know if this has been posted somewhere else, but Heritage has an illustration art auction come up in April that has some pretty nice original pieces of art for some famous posters like King Kong.  It's worth a look for you who have deep pockets.
Title: Re: Heritage Illustration Art for Posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 24, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: holiday on March 23, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
I don't know if this has been posted somewhere else, but Heritage has an illustration art auction come up in April that has some pretty nice original pieces of art for some famous posters like King Kong.  It's worth a look for you who have deep pockets.

Dude, that's just what we all need - another collecting obsession!

Warning: Adorable pic ahead:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Puppies%20and%20Kittens%20%28Mabel%20Rollins%20Harris%29.jpeg)
Title: Re: Heritage Illustration Art for Posters
Post by: stewart boyle on March 24, 2013, 01:16:02 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 24, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
Dude, that's just what we all need - another collecting obsession!

Warning: Adorable pic ahead:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/Puppies%20and%20Kittens%20%28Mabel%20Rollins%20Harris%29.jpeg)
Looks like a cola poster..lovely.

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mondo Hazardo on March 24, 2013, 02:40:51 PM
i prefer a gypsy girl or a clown - he looks happy, but he is crying inside
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on March 24, 2013, 03:00:34 PM
I really have to fight the urge to collect illustration art.  It's a little easier because of the huge money you need to spend for worthy pieces.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on March 24, 2013, 06:36:21 PM
Quote from: holiday on March 24, 2013, 03:00:34 PM
I really have to fight the urge to collect illustration art.  It's a little easier because of the huge money you need to spend for worthy pieces.

 
  It might cut into your Robocop 2 poster budget..... wynk  Just teasing, those posters really scream the 1980's.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 24, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
The New Adventures of Tarzan (1935). Linenbacked, pre-war Belgian.

Bought for $245.00 in Feb, 2013:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-1935-NEW-ADVENTURES-OF-TARZAN-STONE-LITHO-MOVIE-POSTER-BELGIUM-33X24-/271149209481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f21c09789&nma=true&si=VOPMNTs0cmFSTAS7QpmoSEnSBuI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ORIGINAL-1935-NEW-ADVENTURES-OF-TARZAN-STONE-LITHO-MOVIE-POSTER-BELGIUM-33X24-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTUz/$T2eC16NHJHYE9nzpcwl9BQ80sok3dg~~60_1.JPG)


And now, the same copy, re-listed for sale, by Benito, for $3500.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-New-Adventures-of-Tarzan-HERMAN-BRIX-Edward-A-1935-MOVIE-POSTER-/360618834705?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f68ebb11

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/The-New-Adventures-of-Tarzan-HERMAN-BRIX-Edward-A-1935-MOVIE-POSTER-/00/s/Nzk0WDU1Ng==/z/y58AAOxyA4ZRSXPK/$T2eC16JHJHQE9nzEyO,RBRS(PKrQkQ~~60_1.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 24, 2013, 10:48:05 PM
This is STUNNING, imo.  bed1 bed1

Cleopatra (Paramount, 1934); Spanish OS

BIN: $10,500.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-CLAUDETTE-CECIL-B-1934-MOVIE-POSTER-142170-/360617462530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f679cb02

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CLEOPATRA-CLAUDETTE-CECIL-B-1934-MOVIE-POSTER-142170-/00/s/Nzk0WDUzNw==/z/M3wAAMXQfFJRRwog/$T2eC16Z,!zcE9s4g3J8yBRRwogZv6!~~60_3.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 24, 2013, 10:58:27 PM
Just curious Jeff,  do you actually own any posters?  I 've yet to see you post in latest acquisitions or my collection threads. Serious here not just being an ass...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 24, 2013, 11:03:38 PM
I posted a handful of things in the 80s thread, (my post actually bumped that thread back up the chain, about 4 days ago) and I just posted my one, lone 70's poster, most recently, as well as a couple LC and some video release posters.  ;)





Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 26, 2013, 02:38:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 24, 2013, 11:03:38 PM
I posted a handful of things in the 80s thread, (my post actually bumped that thread back up the chain, about 4 days ago) and I just posted my one, lone 70's poster, most recently, as well as a couple LC and some video release posters.  ;)








And I seem to recall reading somewhere that you have a couple of incredible, as in super incredible posters Jeff.. so don't be that modest!!....and some spooky Italian too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 26, 2013, 02:38:56 PM

And I seem to recall reading somewhere that you have a couple of incredible, as in super incredible posters Jeff.. so don't be that modest!!....and some spooky Italian too!

The kiddies love that one at Halloween!!  ;D


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: holiday on March 24, 2013, 03:00:34 PM
I really have to fight the urge to collect illustration art.  It's a little easier because of the huge money you need to spend for worthy pieces.

yep.. pieces like these weren't even cheap when I bought them 25 years ago

Rolf Armstrong circa 1940
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/armstrong2.jpg)

Zoe Mozert 1956
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/mozert.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 24, 2013, 10:58:27 PM
Just curious Jeff,  do you actually own any posters?  I 've yet to see you post in latest acquisitions or my collection threads.

correct Charlie..

some people have nothing to share other than things other people have created.
that's why people call them "Trolls"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 26, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
Rolf Armstrong circa 1940
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/armstrong2.jpg)(http://www.punjabigraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jumping-monkey.gif)

Zoe Mozert 1956
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/mozert.jpg)(http://www.punjabigraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jumping-monkey.gif)(http://www.punjabigraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/jumping-monkey.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I can think of at least one APF member that might like this:   ;D

Our Hospitality (Metro, 1923) Swedish OS:
BIN: $6300.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/360603661617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f5a73531

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/00/s/ODIzWDU2Nw==/z/KUwAAOxy9eVRLImv/$(KGrHqN,!oUFE(nv20zNBRLImvBCP!~~60_57.JPG)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on March 26, 2013, 04:04:55 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
yep.. pieces like these weren't even cheap when I bought them 25 years ago

Rolf Armstrong circa 1940
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/armstrong2.jpg)

Zoe Mozert 1956
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/mozert.jpg)

 wow1 Very nice Rich
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 04:11:59 PM
Randy, next time you're in town, I'll be happy to show you around.
same goes for most of you.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on March 26, 2013, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 04:11:59 PM
Randy, next time you're in town, I'll be happy to show you around.
same goes for most of you.

Sounds great. Hopefully I can make it down soon since you are only an hour and a half away. Just been so busy with work, school, and my little girls that I do not really get any free time. I am going to have to make time and come down.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 26, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I can think of at least one APF member that might like this:   ;D

Our Hospitality (Metro, 1923) Swedish OS:
BIN: $6300.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/360603661617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f5a73531

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/00/s/ODIzWDU2Nw==/z/KUwAAOxy9eVRLImv/$(KGrHqN,!oUFE(nv20zNBRLImvBCP!~~60_57.JPG)




..count me in!!! bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 26, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Something for you Rosa:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-AFRICAN-QUEEN-52-LB-6-SH-HUMPHREY-BOGART-KATHARINE-HEPBURN-JOHN-HUSTON-/251250996455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7fb9f4e7

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-AFRICAN-QUEEN-52-LB-6-SH-HUMPHREY-BOGART-KATHARINE-HEPBURN-JOHN-HUSTON-/00/s/OTQ0WDEwMjA=/z/e~sAAMXQySpRUPOc/$T2eC16J,!)EE9s2ufWVZBRUPOcMQVQ~~60_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 26, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
Screw Rosa, that should be on my wall...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 10:47:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 26, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Something for you Rosa:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-AFRICAN-QUEEN-52-LB-6-SH-HUMPHREY-BOGART-KATHARINE-HEPBURN-JOHN-HUSTON-/251250996455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7fb9f4e7

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-AFRICAN-QUEEN-52-LB-6-SH-HUMPHREY-BOGART-KATHARINE-HEPBURN-JOHN-HUSTON-/00/s/OTQ0WDEwMjA=/z/e~sAAMXQySpRUPOc/$T2eC16J,!)EE9s2ufWVZBRUPOcMQVQ~~60_57.JPG)

I agree with you, Chris.. that would look fine on her wall, I bet (if she likes the style that is)..  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 26, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 10:47:18 PM
I agree with you, Chris.. that would look fine on her wall, I bet (if she likes the style that is)..  ;)

Even better on mine... She can visit if she wants.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 26, 2013, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 26, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
Even better on mine... She can visit if she wants.  ;)

It's already backed Charlie - no challenge for you
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 27, 2013, 01:54:24 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I can think of at least one APF member that might like this:   ;D

Our Hospitality (Metro, 1923) Swedish OS:
BIN: $6300.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/360603661617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f5a73531

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/00/s/ODIzWDU2Nw==/z/KUwAAOxy9eVRLImv/$(KGrHqN,!oUFE(nv20zNBRLImvBCP!~~60_57.JPG)



Well I do collect Keaton feverishly ...I just cannot find the strength to love this poster..first the price tag is ridiculous..my buddy/competitor/ keaton collecting nemesis won the formerly Todd Feiertag owned Steamboat Bill Jr. Insert at the last Heritage signature for less $$$ than this piece and it's FAR SUPERIOR (I won some lobbies from the Leonad Maltin collection AND bought a nice card from my friend to help fund/offset the insert btw...I love Keaton collectors even if they get in my way from time to time)...second..I am not 100% sure that this is a 1923 poster..and just for relative worth clarity..I recently acquired a nice 1927 Swedish stone litho from the lost W.c. Fields film Two Flaming Youths..for a few hundred dollars ..with the best Chester Conklin litho art ever...so...that price for the keaton O.H. is giving me a nosebleed...I'd rather have half a dozen silent Keaton cards for a similar price...however..I will give you one guess as to which Keaton lobby card I just won from heritage


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 27, 2013, 02:02:30 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 26, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
I can think of at least one APF member that might like this:   ;D

Our Hospitality (Metro, 1923) Swedish OS:
BIN: $6300.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OUR-HOSPITALITY-BUSTER-KEATON-John-G-1923-AUTHOR-MOVIE-POSTER-37973-/360603661617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53f5a73531



Well I do collect Keaton feverishly ...I just cannot find the strength to love this poster..first the price tag is ridiculous..my buddy/competitor/ keaton collecting nemesis won the formerly Todd Feiertag owned Steamboat Bill Jr. Insert at the last Heritage signature for less $$$ than this piece and it's FAR SUPERIOR (I won some lobbies from the Leonad Maltin collection AND bought a nice card from my friend to help fund/offset the insert btw...I love Keaton collectors even if they get in my way from time to time)...second..I am not 100% sure that this is a 1923 poster..and just for relative worth clarity..I recently acquired a nice 1927 Swedish stone litho from the lost W.c. Fields film Two Flaming Youths..for a few hundred dollars ..with the best Chester Conklin litho art ever...so...that price for the keaton O.H. is giving me a nosebleed...I'd rather have half a dozen silent Keaton cards for a similar price...however..I will give you one guess as to which Keaton lobby card I just won from heritage  ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 27, 2013, 08:17:16 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 26, 2013, 10:40:25 PM
Something for you Rosa:



(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-AFRICAN-QUEEN-52-LB-6-SH-HUMPHREY-BOGART-KATHARINE-HEPBURN-JOHN-HUSTON-/00/s/OTQ0WDEwMjA=/z/e~sAAMXQySpRUPOc/$T2eC16J,!)EE9s2ufWVZBRUPOcMQVQ~~60_57.JPG)



Thank you Chris!! And yes, well spotted. This poster was on my watch for HA Signature auction. BUT.....as much as I like it, it is not the one I would go for....I like the Belgian best. Charlie Allnut and Rose Sawyer look like them, and Bogie's face is..priceless in the BE. But happy to keep it

so Charlie- hands off- you keep all the Audry's ...all the BIT's (Breakfast etc) ;)

Leave Bogie to the ladies...Bogie  :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
If nothing else, it looks like a nice framing job, complete with the small, brass nameplate that indicates this to be a Portal Publications reproduction. And this is listed in the "Pre-1940s Originals" sub-section, too.  :-X

BIN: $1350.00 :o  (obo)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-THIEF-OF-BAGDAD-1924-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/46oAAMXQBwlRVGx-/$T2eC16h,!zoE9s5ng)uSBRVG)-O3sQ~~60_1.JPG)  (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-THIEF-OF-BAGDAD-1924-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/47AAAMXQBwlRVGx~/$T2eC16N,!)cE9s4PsS5RBRVG)+n,6!~~60_1.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-THIEF-OF-BAGDAD-1924-/261192203495?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd044bce7

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 28, 2013, 06:04:36 PM
WTF!?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on March 28, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 28, 2013, 06:04:36 PM
WTF!?
See, I even upset Canucks.
My Bad.

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 28, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on March 28, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
See, I even upset Canucks.
My Bad.

Stew

Apology acceptance...pending
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: FightClub12 on March 28, 2013, 08:56:16 PM
So was it a repro or did the seller not know what he had?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 28, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
It's a licensed repro from Portal Publications.
We have a thread on these posters: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.0.html)

Some dumbass just dropped $1350 on it? Is that possible?
Where are those rubes when I need 'em...

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2013, 09:10:54 PM
I wrote the seller right after i posted here, at 1;25pm, telling him/her it was an undersized reproduction.

The item sold about 4 hours later.. so the seller would have gotten the ebay message via his/her email and could have pulled the auction, were it too late to change the description details.

It looks like he/she opted to leave this listed as is, and took someone to the cleaner.  Ouch!

eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 28, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Say it ain't so.  I bet it wasn't truly sold...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
Hope not..  :-X
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on March 28, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 26, 2013, 04:11:59 PM
Randy, next time you're in town, I'll be happy to show you around.
same goes for most of you.

Am I 'most'?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2013, 12:50:25 AM
Quote from: wonka on March 28, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
Am I 'most'?

the mostest!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 29, 2013, 08:24:15 PM
Quote from: brude on March 28, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
It's a licensed repro from Portal Publications.
We have a thread on these posters: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,997.0.html)

Some dumbass just dropped $1350 on it? Is that possible?
Where are those rubes when I need 'em...



I got a message from the seller today. He/she did say they sold it last night, but that the purchase price was refunded back to the buyer. Said, too, the print measures about 24x37, but he/she wasnt sure as its framed with a matte and they werent about to destroy the back of the framing to remove it and measure. (They had it pro-framed).

So-- if the seller is telling the truth, no one is out $1350.00 for a Portal repro.   ;D


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2013, 07:27:12 PM
Me likey this one.  $644

(http://c4941054.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/8728.jpg)

http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=5255 (http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=5255)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 31, 2013, 07:31:44 PM
"Beautious," Matt.

 clap clap
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Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2013, 07:38:42 PM
Personally, I MUCH prefer this style B, because you get Larry Parks too!

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/20080916/550/down_to_earth_styleB_0269_S.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:09:23 PM
Pfft...He takes up too much room on the poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 31, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
That Bruce is a funny guy.
 wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 31, 2013, 08:17:22 PM
Quote from: brude on March 31, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
That Bruce is a funny guy.
 wynk

True that! I know I cant stop laughing while I pay my latest emovie bill.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 31, 2013, 08:23:46 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 07:27:12 PM
Me likey this one.  $644

(http://c4941054.r54.cf2.rackcdn.com/8728.jpg)

http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=5255 (http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=5255)










WoW is this yours? Congrats...BEAUTILICIOUS!! :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 31, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Steer clear of this style B Goldfinger quad... it is way too glossy.  And just to be thorough I asked the seller what size it is -- it's 24x40. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261192723605&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Goldfinger-Poster-James-Bond-1964-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/yoIAAMXQs6FRVc4T/$T2eC16Z,!ykE9s7t)2wCBRVc4S)jdg~~60_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 31, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
Thanks for posting this Matt-very helpful.. I thought it was the real thing. I don't collect JB but it looked good to me. SO thanks thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2013, 08:31:50 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 31, 2013, 08:17:22 PM
True that! I know I cant stop laughing while I pay my latest emovie bill.

Oh you have that affliction too?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 31, 2013, 08:23:46 PM
WoW is this yours? Congrats...BEAUTILICIOUS!! :-*

Oh no, I have the daybill.

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2517/p3050003.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2013, 08:40:08 PM
Good man
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 31, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Oh no, I have the daybill.




it is beautilicious too...!  clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on March 31, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
U.S. three sheet
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/FRAME10.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 31, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Silence on March 31, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
U.S. three sheet
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/FRAME10.jpg)

You I hate.


That is awesome!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:54:48 PM
Dankeschön Rosa & Chris!

Michael, that 3sh is the ducks guts! :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 31, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: Silence on March 31, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
U.S. three sheet
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/FRAME10.jpg)


 clap clap clap clap


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on March 31, 2013, 08:56:51 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Oh no, I have the daybill.

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2517/p3050003.jpg)

The daybill is pretty kick ass too Matt.

Always loving your stuff.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 31, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Oh no, I have the daybill.

(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2517/p3050003.jpg)

Nice one Matt..

They seemed to get that one better.   ;D   wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
Terima kasih, gents!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on March 31, 2013, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:54:48 PM
Dankeschön Rosa & Chris!

Michael, that 3sh is the ducks guts! :)

Matt, your daybill is awesome
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
Quote from: Silence on March 31, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
U.S. three sheet
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/FRAME10.jpg)

There's only room for one three sheet Rita on this forum, Michael.  Based on your avatar, a showdown at high noon should solve the problem  ;)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/2012-12%2520Hallway%25201%20copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
$1,000+ on MPE Rita
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on March 31, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 31, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Oh no, I have the daybill.

The lovely version...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 01, 2013, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: Silence on March 31, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
U.S. three sheet
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/FRAME10.jpg)

Way to go!  I actually showed this to my wife thinking how gorgeuos it was. From Heritage?

Congrats!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on April 06, 2013, 02:28:24 AM
Can you believe this and it has a bid on it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-EVIL-DEAD-RAIMI-ROLLED-UK-QUAD-POSTER-VIDEO-NASTIES-PRE-CERT-HORROR-RAIMI-/281085800782?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item417204f14e
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 06, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
No, I can't believe this

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on April 06, 2013, 03:06:01 AM
Quote from: 50s on April 06, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
No, I can't believe this



Me either. Whoever the bidder is I think is a jackass for even bidding that much. It is a cool poster but not that cool to pay that much for it. It goes for a lot less.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on April 06, 2013, 08:59:35 AM
So does the scarce White boarder version, that must be the most expensive Video poster out there...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 07, 2013, 01:06:22 PM
I shelled out $300 for one of these a couple of years but boatloads of them have been showing up lately:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GO-APE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-FESTIVAL-CBS-TV-POSTER-1974-RARE-SEE-PHOTOS-/160896426236

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/Go%20Ape.jpg)

Free shipping to US BTW.  This ad says "has been in cool dry storage by a original Southern California printer for years," so I'm guessing that is the source of most of the posters that have been sold recently.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 07, 2013, 01:09:02 PM
I always liked this poster. It has ''character''. And the price is good too! I don't do hairy stuff so will give it a miss ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 07, 2013, 03:24:48 PM
The multi bill is far more rare than the TV version
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 07, 2013, 08:28:50 PM
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/FFF.jpg)

Berlin’s Fuck For Forest is one of the world’s most bizarre charities. Based on the idea that sex can save the world, the NGO raises money for their environmental cause by selling home-made erotic films on the internet.

You can buy the full-size 27x40 campy FFF poster director from the distributor for £30 here:

http://dogwoofdvd.com/products/f-ck-for-forest-poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 09:59:46 PM
I apologize to you guys who are waiting for the daybills to start.

I can't start them until ALL the current items end, and this ONE just won't end (it has already been extended by 17 minutes)!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2927517 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2927517)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main//550/youth_runs_wild_styleA_JC07297_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on April 09, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
It's been upped again! waiting1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Some people just have no consideration of others


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 10:06:32 PM
I can see why neither can give up. I doubt a finer example could be found anywhere:

"The poster is somewhat brittle and there are large areas of tattering and separation along the foldlines and around the edges."

 happy1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Matt on April 09, 2013, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Some people just have no consideration of others

Damn straight. ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
You know Bruce you should put an "I'm Out" button so the other guy doesn't have to wait the five minutes... 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 10:13:27 PM
It's done! I am working feverishly at eMoviePoster Central and the new gallery will be up any minute!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 10:13:27 PM
It's done! I am working feverishly at eMoviePoster Central and the new gallery will be up any minute!


Push the big green button

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
And here's one for those of you who say there is no such thing as TOO MANY white bars!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2934464 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2934464)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ATLfun on April 09, 2013, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 07, 2013, 01:09:02 PM

 I don't do hairy stuff so will give it a miss ;)


 Well, that will certainly dampen Rich's recent enthusiasm.   wynk


Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 09, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
as Richie melts into slag on the floor


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
And here's one for those of you who say there is no such thing as TOO MANY white bars!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2934464 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2934464)


I need to get to the bottom of all this  (http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/confused.gif)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:30:06 PM
Quote from: ATLfun on April 09, 2013, 10:26:19 PM

 Well, that will certainly dampen Rich's recent enthusiasm.   wynk




Rich has hair?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 09, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Thanks Bruce

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/busting_out.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2935145

Why didn't you auction this nicer one the first time???   
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 09, 2013, 11:25:25 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
You know Bruce you should put an "I'm Out" button so the other guy doesn't have to wait the five minutes... 

I'm considering some custom bid buttons Charlie. Things like "yeah, take THAT!", "oh$#^@ you buddy", "Oh.. so you think you can beat me" and of course "rot in Hell bitch!"

we're trying to figure out how to implement such bidding strategies
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Post by: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
Love it!
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Post by: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 11:35:31 PM
Quote from: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2935145

Why didn't you auction this nicer one the first time???   

I did attempt to find the best example of each and do that one first, but it was easier said than done, because they arrived in a gigantic jumble.

Time to upgrade, I would say.
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Post by: Charlie on April 09, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 09, 2013, 11:35:31 PM
I did attempt to find the best example of each and do that one first, but it was easier said than done, because they arrived in a gigantic jumble.

Time to upgrade, I would say.

Too late, I already backed it (along with Matt's)... This one would have been an easier one to do It's sometime hard to find the right paper... Maybe I should buy this one and trim the paper out of it...  :P
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Post by: Starling on April 10, 2013, 01:55:22 PM
Sorry for outing the auction, but if anyone is looking for a sweet "stone-litho" Portal reproduction for Frankenstein, here is one going for 10k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-ORIGINAL-1931-Litho-in-USA-HORROR-MOVIE-POSTER-BORIS-KARLOFF-/171021990664

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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
Quote from: Starling on April 10, 2013, 01:55:22 PM
Sorry for outing the auction, but if anyone is looking for a sweet "stone-litho" Portal reproduction for Frankenstein, here is one going for 10k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-ORIGINAL-1931-Litho-in-USA-HORROR-MOVIE-POSTER-BORIS-KARLOFF-/171021990664



Brian.. get ready for another firestorm, you bad dog, you...  laugh1 laugh1


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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2013, 04:31:10 PM
Quote from: Starling on April 10, 2013, 01:55:22 PM
Sorry for outing the auction, but if anyone is looking for a sweet "stone-litho" Portal reproduction for Frankenstein, here is one going for 10k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-ORIGINAL-1931-Litho-in-USA-HORROR-MOVIE-POSTER-BORIS-KARLOFF-/171021990664



PRICE DROP to $375 opening bid!

I sent this seller a note, and also sent him a link to a copy that Bruce sold last October for $39.00 (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/3620776.html)

I guess someone might bite at $375.00; you never know.  :-\

The seller did write back, was gracious and thankful for the info, so that was cool, too. 



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Post by: rdavey26 on April 10, 2013, 05:01:31 PM
That is a crazy price for a portal publication.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: rdavey26 on April 10, 2013, 05:01:31 PM
That is a crazy price for a portal publication.

Yeah, I think so, too.   eyeroll



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Post by: brude on April 10, 2013, 10:45:09 PM
I bought one of those Frankies off the bay last year for $10.
Wtf is with people, anyways?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2013, 11:20:52 PM
Interesting choice to put these particular character images on this later re-release quad for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943).  How did they get this so wrong? And I wonder how Universal would have OK'd this layout before it was printed?

Instead of using Lugosi's Frankenstein Monster and Chaney's Wolf Man, they used an image of Karloff as Mr Hyde, from Abbot and Costello Meet Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde (Universal 1953), and Glenn Strange as the monster from House of Frankenstein (Uni, 1944).

If nothing else, at least it helps to date the poster, as post-1953.  ;)

Currently up for auction: start bid - $900 or BIN: $1,000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16NQE9s3HDe-BRGYQ9kl7g60_57_zps5fa8c829.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Foreign-Poster-Frankenstein-Meets-the-Wolfman-English-Monster-Poster-/151026062059?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2329dad2eb

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Post by: paul waines on April 11, 2013, 01:34:49 AM
This was talked about in another thread already...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2013, 01:56:14 AM
Hey Paul. Yes, i did see that other post, too.

I was referencing that, in the context of this one being up for auction, with a 1000.00 price tag. ;)

 cheers



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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 11, 2013, 02:01:06 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 11, 2013, 01:34:49 AM
This was talked about in another thread already...

yes it was. but if he couldn't find something to add to, he would have nothing to add
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Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2013, 02:08:52 AM
This could be interesting. Located in Maryland and local p/u only.

6500-7000 posters, from the 1980's-2013:

BIN: $17,000 (OBO):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/collection_zpsa3edd3f9.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-500-7k-MOVIE-THEATER-POSTERS-ALL-ORIGINAL-1980s-2013-ULTIMATE-COLLECTION-/370782089691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item565455b1db
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Post by: Silhouette on April 11, 2013, 02:23:10 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 11, 2013, 02:08:52 AM
This could be interesting. Located in Maryland and local p/u only.

6500-7000 posters, from the 1980's-2013:

BIN: $17,000 (OBO):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/collection_zpsa3edd3f9.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-500-7k-MOVIE-THEATER-POSTERS-ALL-ORIGINAL-1980s-2013-ULTIMATE-COLLECTION-/370782089691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item565455b1db

Someone will double their money fast on that lot

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Post by: archie leach on April 11, 2013, 02:26:40 AM
Or not...

I'd be willing to bet that most all of the key titles have been cherry picked...
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Post by: Ari on April 11, 2013, 03:05:08 AM
Perhaps if they were 5 or 10 cents a poster.
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 11, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
$5,000 would be too much to pay for that lot. Bulk lots look great at first sight, but once you start working through them and try to turn them over, you need to be in it at the right price unless you are purely buying for your own collection. At 17,000 there is no money to be made on that one.





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Post by: Bruce on April 11, 2013, 09:38:42 AM
I'd say $1 per poster would still be too much, unless it is full of good titles, although it is more likely to have next-to-no good titles, in which case 10 cents per poster would still be too much.
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Post by: wonka on April 11, 2013, 10:18:11 AM
Post-Star Wars, Blade Runner, etc...make this a tough gamble.

Not sure how many All Dogs Go To Heaven even Bruce could move to be worth the time and hassle.
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Post by: paul waines on April 11, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 11, 2013, 01:56:14 AM
Hey Paul. Yes, i did see that other post, too.

I was referencing that, in the context of this one being up for auction, with a 1000.00 price tag. ;)

 cheers


Jeff, just for your notes, it's from 62...
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Post by: Mirosae on April 11, 2013, 12:24:03 PM
I never bought/ found 5 or 10 cents posters in ''me'' life..didnt know such a  thing ''existed''!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 11, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Jeff, just for your notes, it's from 62...

Thanks, Paul.  8)



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Post by: Pronay on April 11, 2013, 12:58:47 PM
maybe the packing material would make it worth it

(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Unsure-Larry-David.gif)
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Post by: Louie D. on April 11, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
So this is what 7000 "Pretty Woman" posters looks like.
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Post by: paul waines on April 12, 2013, 01:23:13 AM
Doen't Thierry buy bulk lots, someone should PM him.... wynk
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 12, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: Louie D. on April 11, 2013, 11:24:31 PM
So this is what 7000 "Pretty Woman" posters looks like.

That is nearly $3.5 million @ $495 a pop!!!!!  I'm in!
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Post by: Starling on April 12, 2013, 12:38:40 PM
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/bddavis81/WonintheClouds_zpsb1fbb014.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/bddavis81/media/WonintheClouds_zpsb1fbb014.jpg.html)

These old stone lithos are so wonderful.  Truly some great poster art...

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161315&lotNo=52534

This one is currently a steal at HA!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
Very nice!

And that's the great thing with litho posters from this period, too.

Old doesnt always translate into expensive. If the movies are more unknown, or were made with (now) unfamiliar actors or directors, they can be had for an "easy" price, many times.  ;)


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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 12, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: Starling on April 12, 2013, 12:38:40 PM
This one is currently a steal at HA!

Don't you KNOW what happens when you dare to "out" an auction around here  :o

http://www.youtube.com/v/AcrAhpx47do
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Post by: Silhouette on April 12, 2013, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 12, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Don't you KNOW what happens when you dare to "out" an auction around here  :o

And you posted a video of Baseball players hitting each other with handbags to make your point?  This is what happens Downunder...another ANZAC test just 12 days away, where movie poster collectors from two countries get together to discuss auction outing Oceania style

http://www.youtube.com/v/igIOEGBkctU
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Post by: Starling on April 12, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
I thought HA and emovie were neutral zones...like Switzerland?!?  Sooorrry.  hitself
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 12, 2013, 08:45:47 PM
By order of Paul and Matt, you're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION, pal!

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/DoubleSecretProbation.jpeg)
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Post by: Neo on April 12, 2013, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 12, 2013, 08:45:47 PM

By order of Paul and Matt, you're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION, pal!


 rofl1
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Post by: CSM on April 13, 2013, 12:30:54 AM
And this is what happens in Canada (where real fights occur)

(Excuse the US teams - they're all Canadian players)

http://www.youtube.com/v/6ef1YVXM9IU

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Post by: CSM on April 13, 2013, 12:36:07 AM
It's a thing of beauty eh David?
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Post by: paul waines on April 13, 2013, 02:43:12 AM
Quote from: Starling on April 12, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
I thought HA and emovie were neutral zones...like Switzerland?!?  Sooorrry.  hitself


They are Starling, HA, Bruce, Rich, And Sean, are all neutral, and don't worry, I've been on Double Secret Probation many times... ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 13, 2013, 06:49:46 AM
Putting aside all the histrionics and fisticuffs, as I've said before, IMO the reasonable compromise is:

FOR MOVIE POSTER AUCTION EVENTS:

- OK to generally discuss prominent movie poster events, i.e. with numerous movie posters for sale, e.g. Garth's Vintage Movie Posters Sale, but not point out any specific poster (unless that specific poster if prominent, as mentioned below);

- NOT OK to mention obscure movie poster events, i.e. with just a handful of movie posters for sale;

FOR INDIVIDUAL AUCTIONS:

- OK to discuss prominent individual posters up for auction, i.e. with lots of watchers (which you can check on watcheditem.com) and/or bidders or any individual poster at any heavily-promoted major or signature auctions;

- NOT OK to discuss non-prominent individual posters up for auction (even on HA or EMP);

BUY IT NOWS/FIXED PRICE:

- GENERALLY OK to discuss Buy It Nows or Fixed Price Items, especially if they've been on sale for a while.

OTHER:

- OK to discuss general buyer "tools" like auction finders, sniping services, authentication sites, WatchedItem.com, etc.;

It seems to me that these guidelines give diligent poster pursuers a chance to score bargains while allowing reasonable free speech and interesting discussions on this forum....
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Post by: Bruce on April 13, 2013, 07:56:32 AM
How can there be rules in a knife fight (or about outing great buys)??

http://www.youtube.com/v/A5f5_KdLEw4
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Post by: paul waines on April 13, 2013, 07:58:01 AM
And lo and behold, the Poster Gods gave un-to Mel, the sacred 10 Commandments.  Mel came down from his High horse, and spread the good word, and peace rained throughout Ephemeria.... wynk




In all seriousness, back in the days of Yore when I first collected, it was very similar. We (the collectors) knew certain main dealers, but we all had contacts we never shared. Luckily to a certain
extent that is still true, I know several collectors (old timers) who let stuff go now and then. They hate computers, in fact a couple still don't/won't have them. So they contact people like me.
So they will never be "Outed".  I just don't understand the reasons for outing an auction unless your selling. Other than the pat on the back, and a well done Mate, (you've saved me loads of work).
Some people need to be told they have done well, or need that feeling of belonging, Some are just vindictive, " Ha, I've cost him some more money" I do understand their complexes, but I still
don't agree with them.  
    I know none of us will agree on this mater, as we all have our own reasons for doing what we do; But as a collector it's my goal to get the best I can for the least out-lay. Any collector who tells
you any different is not a true collector. (No doubt that's a statement some will dispute, but take a moment and think about it..)  

The problem is back in those days, you would let someone know a source if they were a good friend, but there was some "UNWRITTEN" rules amongst collectors, and we all followed them. I
don't know if it's more a British trait, but we would never shit on our friends, or betray the info they had given us. As somewhere up the line you never know when you will need them.
    Since I actually talked myself into going on forums and the like. It seems as though there's a lot of back bitting, back stabbing, Jealousy, what ever you want to call it, and the main problem
is, it's not just seen by the group on the forum, it's seen by the hundreds who Lurk...

  
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Post by: paul waines on April 13, 2013, 08:00:55 AM
Quote from: Bruce on April 13, 2013, 07:56:32 AM
How can there be rules in a knife fight (or about outing great buys)??

http://www.youtube.com/v/A5f5_KdLEw4


By the very nature of Outing, there will NOT be a great buy...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 13, 2013, 08:18:15 AM
To no one's surprise, Paul is being unreasonable, uncompromising, and totally unhelpful.  

Too bad, as we all have to co-exist here and cannot impose our views on others.

I attend mediations all the time with huge $$$ at stake.  You cannot walk in and start yelling at the other side and start slinging accusations.  You have to find some compromise that no one loves but can live with.

Holiday has already ruled that that there are "no limitations" on "outing" auctions, so you have little leverage now.

I'm just trying to propose some reasonable limits.  You continuing to insist that nothing can ever be discussed is a non-starter.
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Post by: Bruce on April 13, 2013, 08:39:32 AM
Better stick to debating abortion or gun control. You'll find far more flexibility in those areas.
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Post by: Ari on April 13, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
I was about to post a link to an auction for a gun that is designed to do home abortions,
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Post by: paul waines on April 13, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Mel, you may have miss read my post, but that happens all the time on here. eyeroll

It's basically an explanation of my thoughts on the subject, and why. I don't expect
to change anyones opinion, that's your job. ;)

Also, H&T can run the forum as they like, it is theirs, and we are their guests.
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Post by: CSM on April 13, 2013, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 13, 2013, 07:58:01 AM
And lo and behold, the Poster Gods gave un-to Mel, the sacred 10 Commandments.  Mel came down from his High horse, and spread the good word, and peace rained throughout Ephemeria....
  

(http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/055-Who-art-thou.jpg)
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Post by: Louie D. on April 13, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 13, 2013, 12:30:54 AM
And this is what happens in Canada (where real fights occur)

(Excuse the US teams - they're all Canadian players)

http://www.youtube.com/v/6ef1YVXM9IU



I remember watching this live when it happened.  AMAZING to watch it all over again!
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Post by: Zorba on April 13, 2013, 11:40:40 AM
Those whacky Canucks.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
Goldfinger Quad:

BIN: $9220.00 / obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16ZHJIQE9qUHuEZBRbgvjVw60_58_zps066eb88c.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/T2eC16ZHJIQE9qUHuEZBRbgvjVw60_58_zps066eb88c.jpg.html)

Seller says that the previous owner had it paper backed and has provided a pic of the back, too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Goldfinger-1964-British-Quad-poster-NM-condition-/400463038249?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item5d3d750729

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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
Looks like the missing, lower right corner might have brought the price down some.   8)

BAT

BIN: $5881.00, obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZHJCQE9qhGJsPBPkgyKFLw60_58-1_zps76ffa78f.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqZHJCQE9qhGJsPBPkgyKFLw60_58-1_zps76ffa78f.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys-Orig-Movie-Poster-1SH-/271187670614?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3f240b7656
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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
SAY WHA??

Folded US OS for the 1964 Lon Chaney Jr film, Witchcraft. Bruce has sold these from between $9-38.00

This seller has this copy listed for........ $5140.00    :o

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/witchcraft_zps505e8920.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/witchcraft_zps505e8920.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WITCHCRAFT-ORIGINAL-U-S-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-LON-CHANEY-JR-/120943810483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c28d017b3
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Post by: Zorba on April 13, 2013, 05:19:35 PM
Looks like this guy is using the pic I posted here for his auctions. Its the emovie pic I was sent after auction without the water mark. Has the same exact tear and creases.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/APOCALYPSE-NOW-EA1979-Marlon-Brando-Art-by-Bob-Peak-2-SHEET-TOP-RAR-/200913285969?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec75d7351

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IIBtWULHFwY/UWnId1FVPKI/AAAAAAAAGS4/--Gy_FBggwk/s702/Fullscreen%2520capture%25204132013%252040325%2520PM.jpg?gl=US)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on April 13, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 13, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
Looks like the missing, lower right corner might have brought the price down some.   8)

BAT

BIN: $5881.00, obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZHJCQE9qhGJsPBPkgyKFLw60_58-1_zps76ffa78f.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqZHJCQE9qhGJsPBPkgyKFLw60_58-1_zps76ffa78f.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breakfast-at-Tiffanys-Orig-Movie-Poster-1SH-/271187670614?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3f240b7656

I made an offer to this guy.  He is stuck at retail...  He said it was way too low to consider.  I don't think he is a poster dealer.
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Post by: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 01:55:19 AM
Search as I might, I cannot seem to find the thread that discussed one of our member's upcoming films "You're Next".
I wanted to ask this there: is this legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310650329899&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123

Edit: Well, crap. It's already sold. I really hope someone didn't just purchase a DIY print job.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 14, 2013, 03:28:59 AM
Quote from: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 01:55:19 AM
Search as I might, I cannot seem to find the thread that discussed one of our member's upcoming films "You're Next".
I wanted to ask this there: is this legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310650329899&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123

Edit: Well, crap. It's already sold. I really hope someone didn't just purchase a DIY print job.

Here you go, Mike:  ;)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,5550.msg113008.html#msg113008

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Post by: ddilts399 on April 14, 2013, 07:52:52 AM
I just got the You 're Next sets in, should have them unpacked today or tomorrow and up for sale.

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Post by: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
Thanks erik and dale. I was more just curious if the posters were actually released yet, or if someone found some hi-res images and was selling them as originals. Sounds like all is good.
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Post by: movieposters on April 14, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
re: Pulp Fiction (non lucky strike) - has anyone noticed the drastic price increase this piece is seeing month after month?   Obviously huge demand on this title.

So here's the real question - what's your prediction?  Will it continue to increase as is, taper off and retain today's going price, or be deemed overvalued and start falling?



(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/PulpFictionValue_zps8b41efc6.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on April 14, 2013, 12:13:20 PM
It all depends on how slowly Richie releases his giant stack of them

Or alternatively how many people find out there is a HUGE supply of them...
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Post by: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
This might be a stupid question but do you think it's possible that people are confusing this poster with the Lucky Strikes poster, thus driving price up?
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Post by: Zorba on April 14, 2013, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
This might be a stupid question but do you think it's possible that people are confusing this poster with the Lucky Strikes poster, thus driving price up?

There are no stupid questions only stupid people. Like the ones driving up the price on this. I know cause I was once one of them.   ;D

Anything is possible but I think its cause in general  Bruce gets MO money for the popular ones cause well hes Bruce.

As long as you mentioned it. I hope to one day have a Lucky Strike poster fall out of the sky and land on my door step cause thats the only way I will be to acquire  one.  :P
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Post by: Bruce on April 14, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
Quote from: Zorba on April 14, 2013, 12:52:28 PM
There are no stupid questions only stupid people. Like the ones driving up the price on this. I know cause I was once one of them.   ;D

Anything is possible but I think its cause in general  Bruce gets MO money for the popular ones cause well hes Bruce.

As long as you mentioned it. I hope to one day have a Lucky Strike poster fall out of the sky and land on my door step cause thats the only way I will be to acquire  one.  :P

The question ALWAYS is, "Are there more buyers than sellers at that price?". It works for stocks or for Frankenstein one-sheets just as well as for this poster. When the price reaches the point where they are more sellers than buyers, the price will come down.

And I know this because well I'm Bruce.
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Post by: Zorba on April 14, 2013, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 14, 2013, 02:28:24 PM
The question ALWAYS is, "Are there more buyers than sellers at that price?". It works for stocks or for Frankenstein one-sheets just as well as for this poster. When the price reaches the point where they are more sellers than buyers, the price will come down.

And I know this because well I'm Bruce.

I was going for the comedy angle.  ;)

I think most of us understand supply and demand.

I am saying that as you are Bruce, most feel much more comfortable dealing with you than some guy on ebay. I know I do.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 02:52:20 PM
Quote from: CSM on April 14, 2013, 12:13:20 PM
Or alternatively how many people find out there is a HUGE supply of them...

Chris

almost every modern poster is available in very high quantities. Do you think they printed less Pulp Fiction one sheets than they printed Sex in the City??

some people were just smarter than others, and saved posters for the future..
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Post by: Mirosae on April 14, 2013, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: movieposters on April 14, 2013, 11:14:04 AM
re: Pulp Fiction (non lucky strike) - has anyone noticed the drastic price increase this piece is seeing month after month?   Obviously huge demand on this title.

So here's the real question - what's your prediction?  Will it continue to increase as is, taper off and retain today's going price, or be deemed overvalued and start falling?



(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/PulpFictionValue_zps8b41efc6.jpg)



This poster  is now cheaper than used to be.  I've seen it in the UK for £500, rolled, now is cheaper.  Not the LS one.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 14, 2013, 03:21:47 PM

This poster  is now cheaper than used to be.  I've seen it in the UK for £500, rolled, now is cheaper.  Not the LS one.

when the poster sold a few times for over $500 was an anomoly. Of course, people at a retail level can ask anything. Doesn't mean it's selling
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Post by: Threenero on April 14, 2013, 03:36:43 PM
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r26/3nero/posters/ferr.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/3nero/media/posters/ferr.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230913468551?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230913468551?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

Is it really worth that much now??
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
people can ask any price they want for something, like that guy who lists lightboxes for $1,000,000

doesn't mean it's the right price. Of course, people forget something about "collectibles".....
it's simple, collectibles only have real value at the moment cash is trading hands. All other times, it just has a "perception of value". The reasons are simple, unlike other "real property" these items cannot necessarily be sold at a moment's notice. If I want to sell my stocks in AT&T, it will only take as long as it takes me to place the sell order.

trying to tie values of collectibles to a solid pricing structure isn't possible. Collectibles were worth more in a hot economy in 2007 than they were in 2009 in a recession. If you absolutely must sell today, your value is a steep decline from perception. What something in this business is worth to one person doesn't reflect what it's worth to another.

.. and I haven't even discussed the variance is business costs between say myself (online presence, no sales people needed etc) vs a gallery (many employees, higher rent). These issues all contribute to what his or her retail listing or straight sale price may be and the difference between them.
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Post by: ATLfun on April 14, 2013, 05:22:24 PM

 So what was up with those HP advances for the last film?  The Harry Potter character advance went for nearly $600.  First time the image was offered on emovie, but are those advances going to be that hard to find?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday/200/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_part_2_teaser_harry_style_JC06836_L.jpg)


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Post by: Bruce on April 14, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
Good thing no one "outed" those or the prices would have been far higher!
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Post by: keith on April 14, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: pratschm on April 14, 2013, 01:55:19 AM
Search as I might, I cannot seem to find the thread that discussed one of our member's upcoming films "You're Next".
I wanted to ask this there: is this legit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310650329899&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123

Edit: Well, crap. It's already sold. I really hope someone didn't just purchase a DIY print job.

There should be real YOU'RE NEXT posters out there in the world right now. I got a few from Lionsgate, but not a large batch so I need to save the ones I have for cast and crew.

There also should be some very very rare and subversive bus-shelter ads that people haven't really picked up on yet… Can't really say more than that.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 14, 2013, 08:40:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 02:52:20 PM
Chris

almost every modern poster is available in very high quantities. Do you think they printed less Pulp Fiction one sheets than they printed Sex in the City??

some people were just smarter than others, and saved posters for the future..

I bet more Pulp Fiction posters were saved for the collectors' market than Sex in the City.  So likely more PF exist.  

But then there's that whole demand angle to consider...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
I actually believe Egbert, who claims that Miramax printed and sold ten thousand Pulp Fiction posters for $7.50 each to dealers (http://shop.vendio.com/comicod/item/758057218/index.html), which explains why there are so many out there. Several dealers are sitting on huge piles of them.

IMO the same situation applies to many popular 80s/90s posters, including Blade Runner, Thing, etc.  The endless supply of these posters - in mint unused and rolled condition - cannot be explained in any other way.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 09:37:22 PM
I don't know anything about the Egbert story, though I would tend to doubt such a program existed under the auspices of management. Was he referring to Miramax warehouse East or Miramax warehouse West? I know exactly what happened to the material in Miramax warehouse East

on stock quantities.. Look, there are lots of people like myself who bought and warehoused material for years that had no value or little value and for every poster that became good, I have loads that still have no value.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 10:09:57 PM
Follow the link here.  Egbert - in his usual kooky and meandering style - names several Miramax officials:

http://shop.vendio.com/comicod/item/758057218/index.html
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
I'll ask Greg about his story, but it just doesn't hold up. Was someone there back-dooring them? Well, that's what happens mostly. Does the studio have time to deal with a piddly movie poster sales division? never happen.. not enough $ in it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
I'll ask Greg about his story, but it just doesn't hold up. Was someone there back-dooring them? Well, that's what happens mostly. Does the studio have time to deal with a piddly movie poster sales division? never happen.. not enough $ in it

According to BoxOfficeMojo, Pulp Fiction was showing in 1,400 theaters at its peak.  

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=pulpfiction.htm

The number of posters floating around 20 years later is not commensurate with the 1,500 figure.
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Post by: CSM on April 14, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
According to BoxOfficeMojo, Pulp Fiction was showing in 1,400 theaters at its peak.  

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=pulpfiction.htm

The number of posters floating around 20 years later is not commensurate with the 1,500 figure.

And Sex and the City 3,325 theaters = likely even more actual 'for theatre use' printed posters
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
The number of posters floating around 20 years later is not commensurate with the 1,500 figure.

what does that even mean?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 14, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
Wait a minute - Sex and the City made $415,000,000 worldwide - let's talk about that!
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Post by: 50s on April 14, 2013, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 10:53:00 PM
what does that even mean?

Mel is kindly sharing his knowledge with us


Quote from: CSM on April 14, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
Wait a minute - Sex and the City made $415,000,000 worldwide - let's talk about that!

Ok, lots, I mean lots, of men went there and suffered through this in the hope they might get some action later


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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:17:11 PM
Real simple.  PF played in 1,500 theaters in 1994.  Miramax sent 2 or 3 posters to each theater, maybe 5,000 total.  Why are there so many available for sale now TWENTY YEARS LATER if Miramax did not print extra for poster dealers?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 14, 2013, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 14, 2013, 11:14:23 PM

Ok, lots, I mean lots, of men went there and suffered through this in the hope they might get some action later


I'd be very surprised if any of them could get it up after seeing 2+ hours of SJP

Well maybe absent those with an equine fetish...
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Post by: 50s on April 14, 2013, 11:21:08 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:17:11 PM
Real simple.  PF played in 1,500 theaters in 1994.  Miramax sent 2 or 3 posters to each theater, maybe 5,000 total.  Why are there so many available for sale now TWENTY YEARS LATER if Miramax did not print extra for poster dealers?


Yes, real simple, there are lots


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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
They have been in high demand for twenty years.  The surviving theater-used supply would have dried up years ago.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:17:11 PM
Real simple.  PF played in 1,500 theaters in 1994.  Miramax sent 2 or 3 posters to each theater, maybe 5,000 total.  Why are there so many available for sale now TWENTY YEARS LATER if Miramax did not print extra for poster dealers?

because your math is wrong?? Or because your presumptions are wrong?
how about minmum print runs are probably in the 10,000-20,000 area and heavy prints runs 50,000
how many they print has nothing to do with how many theatres there are. It has to do with the costs of printing and the fact that (for instance) to print 5000 may cost X and to print 5000 more at the same time is 1/10th the cost of the first 5000.

stop trying to create information based upon false presumptions. You have no idea how many posters were printed (I don't either) and to put a number to it creates false information.
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Post by: 50s on April 14, 2013, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
They have been in high demand for twenty years.  The surviving theater-used supply would have dried up years ago.

hot potato, hot potato

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 11:32:35 PM
and to add something, when I bought the Miramax warehouse East contents, we unfortunately got 109 boxes of Smoke Signals. This film is a complete POS and I wound up with 5450 copies of it, leftovers from International distribution. Unfortunately I still have some 30 tubes sitting in the warehouse of this POS. How many did they print? Certainly more than the 5450 that I know weren't distributed.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:32:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 11:26:44 PM
because your math is wrong?? Or because your presumptions are wrong?
how about minmum print runs are probably in the 10,000-20,000 area and heavy prints runs 50,000
how many they print has nothing to do with how many theatres there are. It has to do with the costs of printing and the fact that (for instance) to print 5000 may cost X and to print 5000 more at the same time is 1/10th the cost of the first 5000.

stop trying to create information based upon false presumptions. You have no idea how many posters were printed (I don't either) and to put a number to it creates false information.

Why would Miramax print 50,000 Pulp Fiction posters for just 1500 theaters?  That's 33 per theater.   That makes no sense, regardless of printing cost.  Egbert, Dan (MPA), and Pic_res (Dennis) have all referred to "licensed dealer print runs."   It makes more sense that many of the PF posters available today were printed directly for sale to dealers.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 14, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
who said they printed 50,000?
Mel. where is your reading comprehension?

and there were no licensed dealer print runs of theatrical Pulp Fiction posters, though there are reprints of Pulp Fiction posters
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 15, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
Well Rich, I concede that you have far more knowledge of this subject that I do.

This whole thread started because I was just repeating what Egbert said, i.e. that Miramax sold 10,000 posters to two dealers, who then resold to other dealers, including Egbert.  Notwithstanding Egbert's kookiness, it seems reasonable given that several dealers on Ebay (movieposterzone, Egbert, etc.) have seemingly-unlimited supplies of these.

In any event, I just ordered one of MoviePosterZone's $125 PF posters (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pulp-Fiction-1994-movie-poster-/150986182523?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23277a4f7b) to compare to the one you sold me three years (which came from the Miramax warehouse), so I'll be able to report any differences.
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Post by: Charlie on April 15, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
I think you guys should also assess - How many people really care about Pulp Fiction?  -AND- How many really care about having an original?

THEN

People are going to buy what they want so who really cares how many are printed?  Mel you keep talking about this stuff like everyone is it for investment purposes... Not on a Pulp Fiction OS?!?! You may want to be but some just don't really care all that much - it is just wall covering using their favorite movie...  
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Post by: pratschm on April 15, 2013, 12:31:40 AM
I'm not in it for investment purposes and I can only speak for myself here, but I know that if I spend $100+ on any 'original' poster, then I want that poster to be an original poster. Not a reprint or reproduction. Now what counts as original? That's a whole other discussion (that's been discussed elsewhere)....
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Post by: Ari on April 15, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
If a poster is selling for $100 and you really want it, and feel $100 or maybe $90 for some folk here who seem to need a bargain every time, and you buy the poster for the bargain price of $80 ( if that's bargain enough), you are happy,you enjoy the poster it's in a frame or in a tube or whatever you do with your bargain poster, and then years later,you still see this poster being sold, you thought it would be rare because whatever reason, now just about everyone in the world who wants one has one, and your bargain is now selling for $80 regularly, and with your super bargain hunting and negotiating skills, it's really not a $70 poster, but you can get for $60 if you cry poor long enough, THEN do you....

Feel ripped off?
Or
Glad you have the poster and the enjoyment you got from it and continue to get ?

I know how I think.





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Post by: 50s on April 15, 2013, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: pratschm on April 15, 2013, 12:31:40 AM
Now what counts as original? That's a whole other discussion (that's been discussed elsewhere)....


Original means that a piece must exist in its own right (and not coexist in a parallel universe). Everything thus is an original as it had its own creation date. It is also its own first release and it is vintage because it has an old design. It is an original, vintage first release

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Post by: kovacs01 on April 15, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 15, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
I was just repeating what Egbert said

 laugh1

Seems like a judgement problem to me.
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Post by: 50s on April 15, 2013, 12:54:06 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 15, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
If a poster is selling for $100 and you really want t, and feel $100 or maybe $90 for some folk here who seem to need a bargain every time, and you buy the poster for the bargain price of $80 ( if that's bargain enough), you are happy,you enjoy the Peter it's in a frame or in a tube or whatever you do with your bargain poster, and then years later,you still see this poster being sold, you thought it would be rare because whatever reason, now just about everyone in the world who wants one has one, and your bargain is now selling for $80 regularly, and s with your super bargain hunting and negotiating skills, it's really not a $70 poster, but you can get for $60 if you cry poor long enough, THEN do you....

Cool, 159 word sentence, my head is giddy and I bailed

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Post by: Ari on April 15, 2013, 12:55:23 AM
My work is done.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 15, 2013, 03:52:40 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 15, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
Glad you have the poster and the enjoyment you got from it and continue to get ?

yep.. I paid $3000 for my Murder My Sweet 1sh in 2001. It has been proudly displayed most of the time since then. 12 years x365 days+3 leap years = 4383 days. that means it has cost me 65 cents a day to enjoy the poster. this number decreases every day, so in 12 more years, my cost will be down to 32 cents a day, and that's just if the item wasn't re-salable. How many things do you own that you can say you enjoyed & got money back later?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on April 15, 2013, 04:19:54 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 15, 2013, 03:52:40 AM
yep.. I paid $3000 for my Murder My Sweet 1sh in 2001. It has been proudly displayed most of the time since then. 12 years x365 days+3 leap years = 4383 days. that means it has cost me 65 cents a day to enjoy the poster. this number decreases every day, so in 12 more years, my cost will be down to 32 cents a day, and that's just if the item wasn't re-salable. How many things do you own that you can say you enjoyed & got money back later?

So I can buy it from you on time payment for 32cents per day?
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Post by: 110x75 on April 15, 2013, 08:09:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce on April 14, 2013, 02:28:24 PM

And I know this because well I'm Bruce.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_plp-lJXeR88/S7zY6TGkVaI/AAAAAAAAFMI/GpxF1NKz8_8/s1600/my_name_is_bruce_poster.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on April 15, 2013, 08:54:20 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 14, 2013, 11:17:11 PM
Real simple.  PF played in 1,500 theaters in 1994.  Miramax sent 2 or 3 posters to each theater, maybe 5,000 total.  Why are there so many available for sale now TWENTY YEARS LATER if Miramax did not print extra for poster dealers?

Why would each theater only get two or three posters?
I am friends with the owner of one of Atlanta's last remaining independent theaters (Plaza), they only have two screens but whenever they show a film they get up to a complete tube of posters and usually at least 20 of any title.
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Post by: Ari on April 15, 2013, 08:58:08 AM
The local country cinema here gave away a stockpile of posters to a local charity to sell and use as a donation.
Anyway he had rolls (20-30) of each title. I think there's three screens at this cinema. And I've never seen more than three actual posters displayed (different titles) at one time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 15, 2013, 09:02:53 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on April 15, 2013, 08:54:20 AM
Why would each theater only get two or three posters?
I am friends with the owner of one of Atlanta's last remaining independent theaters (Plaza), they only have two screens but whenever they show a film they get up to a complete tube of posters and usually at least 20 of any title.


I'm sure that's true but another dealer on this forum specifically told me that some studios are extremely strict and will only send two posters per theater to deter "poster profiteering."   Somebody else on this forum (maybe Archie Leach?) said that Miramax was pretty tight with posters as well.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 15, 2013, 09:26:22 AM
When I got a bulk lot from the local cinema he made me promise not to put on eBay, as he was warned about it and he could get into trouble.
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Post by: pratschm on April 15, 2013, 11:38:19 PM
I classify this in the OMGLOLWTF category:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121095559040&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

Quote
The Teaser has sold for $235.00
The BKTF2 has sold for $300.00
The BKTF3 has sold for $180.00

So apparently one just needs to find the high-water mark selling point for a poster and profit ensues... from the n00bs.  :-\
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Post by: Starling on April 16, 2013, 12:52:34 PM
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/bddavis81/Carmen_zps67d26b67.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/bddavis81/media/Carmen_zps67d26b67.jpg.html)


Fantastic poster.  Little pricey, though....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Theda-Bera-org-3-sheet-Carmen-One-of-a-Kind-Mint-1915-Silent-Era-Movie-Poster-/321108552623?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac38fabaf
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2013, 01:39:38 PM
Love this one!!

 sm1

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Post by: oldposterho on April 16, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
Neat.  Little pricey is right but probably not *that* far off.  If I had it, I'd do it willingly.

--Peter
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Post by: 50s on April 19, 2013, 07:18:49 AM
Lucky nose

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/SALE-Olbinski-2004-Peter-Nichols-Namietnosc-Polish-Art-Poster-Poznan-Poland-/00/$(KGrHqMOKicE3326-5RsBN-bqy5V+!~~0_12.JPG) (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-Olbinski-2004-Peter-Nichols-Namietnosc-Polish-Art-Poster-Poznan-Poland-/200916354245?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item2ec78c44c5)

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Post by: Ari on April 19, 2013, 09:15:07 AM
Probably more like lucky vagina (?)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 24, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
Proving once again that this hobby is dominated by horny bastards.  This is the third straight Spring Breakers to exceed $100:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/Horny.jpg)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 25, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea)


"it feels like it could come off but I will let that for the next owner"...nice quote

It's hard to tell just how fun this piece COULD be..

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 25, 2013, 03:15:50 AM
that piece would be no fun at all.. it's a distressed repro pos
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 25, 2013, 04:45:31 AM
My thoughts exactly...how many bids and final price?..any guesses?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 25, 2013, 05:16:38 AM
it already ended once with no bids
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Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 25, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea)


"it feels like it could come off but I will let that for the next owner"...nice quote

It's hard to tell just how fun this piece COULD be..

Wow, this looks to be some really poorly printed repro. Even the added "distressing" job looks over done.   :P

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Post by: Starling on April 26, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 25, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
Wow, this looks to be some really poorly printed repro. Even the added "distressing" job looks over done.   :P




It's doing pretty good for a repro...up to 400 buckeroos!   :o
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Post by: CSM on April 26, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
Someone is going to be unhappy
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Post by: brude on April 27, 2013, 01:29:03 PM
Looks like Lyn asked him up front about authenticity and it seems Sparky is sticking to his 'original' claim.
Ahh well... live and learn, eh?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 27, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Since when does lobby card stock curl, crimp (and look) like an 8x11 piece of paper? 

$405... and (possibly) counting.. down the drain.  :-[

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Post by: Harry Caul on April 27, 2013, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 25, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-11-x14-Lobby-Card-The-Mummy-Boris-Karloff-Country-of-Origin-USA-Free-Ship-/121098282474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c320525ea)


"it feels like it could come off but I will let that for the next owner"...nice quote

It's hard to tell just how fun this piece COULD be..



Yikes, I feel sorry for whoever is about to shell out several hundred dollars on this trash...

EBAY AUCTION:

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/odd%20and%20ends/mummy-ebay_zpsb7b38df5.jpg)


HA AUCTION:

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/odd%20and%20ends/mummy-HA_zpsd4659a18.jpg)
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Post by: lynaron on April 27, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
I already own a Kerry "original" and it don't need no companion  :).

Lynn
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Post by: CSM on April 27, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: lynaron on April 27, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
I already own a Kerry "original" and it don't need no companion  :).

Lynn

Yikes!
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on April 28, 2013, 05:03:09 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300893945306

Golden Gun advance.......
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Post by: Louie D. on April 28, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
If there is anyone here who purchases this lot at Heritage tonight:

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161317&lotNo=54514

I am interested in purchasing 2 photos from this lot as they show a theater in my hometown.

THANKS!
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 28, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on April 28, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
If there is anyone here who purchases this lot at Heritage tonight:

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161317&lotNo=54514

I am interested in purchasing 2 photos from this lot as they show a theater in my hometown.

THANKS!


You should ask Grey... I'm sure he could pass word to the new owner. 
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Post by: holiday on April 29, 2013, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 24, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
Proving once again that this hobby is dominated by horny bastards.  This is the third straight Spring Breakers to exceed $100:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/Horny.jpg)

Put me down for that.  I was the second copy that sold....

Now, hopefully, they won't fuck it up with crappy packing.
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Post by: 110x75 on April 29, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
I bet none of you losers have a "ghost damaged" poster... eyeroll

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Haunted-Mansion-DS-27x40-Movie-Poster-Disney-GHOST-DAMAGE-/251265108756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a80914b14 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Haunted-Mansion-DS-27x40-Movie-Poster-Disney-GHOST-DAMAGE-/251265108756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a80914b14)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2013, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 29, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
I bet none of you losers have a "ghost damaged" poster... eyeroll

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Haunted-Mansion-DS-27x40-Movie-Poster-Disney-GHOST-DAMAGE-/251265108756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a80914b14 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Haunted-Mansion-DS-27x40-Movie-Poster-Disney-GHOST-DAMAGE-/251265108756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a80914b14)

Code for "A dog ate my poster."  laugh1

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2013, 07:12:54 PM
to anyone interested in ghost eaten posters, I have very many of them. I also have ghost crushed, ghost wrinkled, ghost creased and I may even have some ghost-pissed-on posters

posters are free, you pay shipping, or you can have Casper pick them up for you
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Post by: 110x75 on April 29, 2013, 07:46:52 PM
so you have a haunted warehouse Rich?   :D
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Post by: brude on April 29, 2013, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on April 29, 2013, 07:46:52 PM
so you have a haunted warehouse Rich?   :D

Naw, he's just an incontinent sleepwalker who stumbles around in the dead of night falling all over his stuff and urinating on the rest.
It's scary and sad at the same time.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
kinda bizarre Ted.. You're saying I walk 4 miles in my sleep  to come down here and chew stuff up..
I ride my stationary bike every day, but I don't think I've walked 4 miles awake since last time I was up at Mt Charleston
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Post by: brude on April 30, 2013, 01:37:02 AM
Visiting your place is on my bucket list, pal.  wynk
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2013, 04:52:55 PM
A nice US OS for the 1945 RR of Pinocchio, care of Mr Benito:  ;)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqRHJFcFF2CLgTwBReNM8mS2g60_57_zpsfc2709c9.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqRHJFcFF2CLgTwBReNM8mS2g60_57_zpsfc2709c9.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WONDERFUL-ADVENTURES-OF-PINOCCHIO-PINOCHO-WALT-DISNEY-1939-MOVIE-POSTER-/151034159558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232a5661c6

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Post by: brude on May 06, 2013, 07:09:19 AM
I hope no one bites my head off for outing this baby....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190835137384&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190835137384&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
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Post by: 50s on May 06, 2013, 07:51:19 AM
Quote from: brude on May 06, 2013, 07:09:19 AM
I hope no one bites my head off for outing this baby....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190835137384&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190835137384&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)


Great... Jaws vs Flash Gordon...



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Post by: paul waines on May 06, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
Mind If I was buying from over sea's I'd buy that Pinocchio, this instant...
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Post by: Mirosae on May 06, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
And pay a Benito price for that Pinocchio ?
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Post by: paul waines on May 06, 2013, 10:01:26 AM
Yep, I likes what I likes, all's fair in Love and poster buying... ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 06, 2013, 10:17:23 AM
Quote from: paul waines on May 06, 2013, 10:01:26 AM
Yep, I likes what I likes, all's fair in Love and poster buying... ;)


Actually .....so very true ....all's fair in love and posterLOVING :-*
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Post by: archie leach on May 06, 2013, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 06, 2013, 10:17:23 AM

Actually .....so very true ....all's fair in love and posterLOVING :-*

I'd be afraid of the chafing...
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Post by: Mirosae on May 06, 2013, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: archie leach on May 06, 2013, 04:03:10 PM
I'd be afraid of the chafing...



Well Archie...I never heard YOU complaining before...you clearly know how to do it.. :-*
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 09, 2013, 09:21:15 AM
http://www.ebay.it/itm/locandina-film-originale-anni-50-60-a-qualcuno-piace-caldo-marilyn-monroe-curtis-/130900969373?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item1e7a4e479d&_uhb=1#ht_1265wt_1139
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Post by: erik1925 on May 09, 2013, 12:14:34 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on May 09, 2013, 09:21:15 AM
http://www.ebay.it/itm/locandina-film-originale-anni-50-60-a-qualcuno-piace-caldo-marilyn-monroe-curtis-/130900969373?pt=Film_Stranieri&hash=item1e7a4e479d&_uhb=1#ht_1265wt_1139

Very nice. I always liked this design for the movie.

 clap

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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 10, 2013, 09:53:09 AM
Much much rarer than the SLIH "gangster" style ;)

There's a 3rd style too , it's the SLIH "city" style.......that's the rarest.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 10, 2013, 02:35:59 PM
It's baacckk.

$30.00 open bid / $50.00 BIN

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forbidden-Planet-Vintage-Belgium-Window-Card-Poster-/230978556375?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c76511d7

That same 1980's repro/reprint Belgian poster for Forbidden Planet. This time, tho, the seller describes it as:

"Later issue Forbidden Planet poster -  Vintage Belgium Window card.

Exact date of print unknown - see photo

Excellent, near mint condition. Beautiful color and detail.

Will ship rolled. Not a US original nor an original Belgium. The is a later reproduction print, probably in the 80's. It is not a copy."

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16NHJGIFFoTmFfWzBRepyBg60_57_zps41b0a336.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/T2eC16NHJGIFFoTmFfWzBRepyBg60_57_zps41b0a336.jpg.html)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 08:56:12 AM
I hope I won't get roasted if I post this. I am interested in getting one of these LC at some point but I am NOT SURE if they are real. The Billy Wilder signatures do not match. And I have seen few of these on the web sold as ''original''. One of these LC will be auctioned soon-ish and I just wanted to know if you guys have any views...DO THEY LOOK REAL TO YOU?'

DOUBLE INDEMNITY http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/ZoomImage.aspx?image=http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d56779/d5677966&IntObjectID=5677966 (http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/ZoomImage.aspx?image=http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d56779/d5677966&IntObjectID=5677966)
1944, Paramount, U.S. scene card no.2, signed in black ink by Billy Wilder, condition A-; conservation framed
11 x 14in. (28 x 36cm.)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/anonymous_double_indemnity_d5677966h_zps7ae82b3c.jpg)

1944 Double Indemnity signed card, numbered 8. Signed by Billy Wilder, Fred MacMurray and Barbara Stanwyck. In excellent condition and is conservation linen-backed. Height (cm): 28; Width (cm): 36.
This card is from the Artie Kern Collectionhttp://www.vintageseekers.com/products/1944-double-indemnity-signed-card (http://www.vintageseekers.com/products/1944-double-indemnity-signed-card)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/167336-double-indemnity-lowres_zps6ebff85e.jpg)


I will be going to Christie's next week to check theirs, I am not buying anything this time, but wondered what you thought..!
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Post by: Bruce on May 12, 2013, 09:14:07 AM
I don't know if it helps, but here is one from an old time collector who got this from Mr. Wilder in Los Angeles near the end of his life.

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/20080226/550/lc_double_indemnity_8_signed_JA00550_L.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
MANY THANKS Bruce, it helps a LOT. Your LC AND SIGNATURE seems consistent with the second LC FROM Vintageseekers.

The signature is different in the one from the Christie's... There is something about the Christie's LC that it feels not quite right. I don't like it..
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Post by: 50s on May 12, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
MANY THANKS Bruce, it helps a LOT. Your LC AND SIGNATURE seems consistent with the second LC FROM Vintageseekers.

The signature is different in the one from the Christie's... There is something about the Christie's LC that it feels not quite right. I don't like it..

Good on you Bruce cause that looks like that cleared that up

Ok time for a Rosa roast toast... Cheers the auctions look great and I'll bid on it



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Post by: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 12, 2013, 09:36:43 AM
Good on you Bruce cause that looks like that cleared that up

Ok time for a Rosa roast toast... Cheers the auctions look great and I'll bid on it






Right... Mr Steve.... you wanna fight over this?

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tonterias/ehonda_zpse9bf8550.gif)
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Post by: 50s on May 12, 2013, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 09:40:51 AM

Right... Mr Steve.... you wanna fight over this?


How sweet, however... your dukes are no match for my nukes


Oh, its a lobby card?, nah, that's right I don't collect them, I'm focusing on Australian daybills, looking for the needle in the haystack where a drawn face resembles a credited actor



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Post by: Mirosae on May 12, 2013, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 12, 2013, 10:04:24 AM

How sweet, however... your dukes are no match for my nukes


Oh, its a lobby card?, nah, that's right I don't collect them, I'm focusing on Australian daybills, looking for the needle in the haystack where a drawn face resembles a credited actor





..QUITE! I am still recovering from shock, whoever was the artist for The Long Hot Summer daybill... mama.... mama...
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Post by: Bruce on May 12, 2013, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: 50s on May 12, 2013, 10:04:24 AM

I'm focusing on Australian daybills, looking for the needle in the haystack where a drawn face resembles a credited actor


Low blow!

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Post by: erik1925 on May 12, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: 50s on May 12, 2013, 10:04:24 AM

How sweet, however... your dukes are no match for my nukes


Oh, its a lobby card?, nah, that's right I don't collect them, I'm focusing on Australian daybills, looking for the needle in the haystack where a drawn face resembles a credited actor


Steve..

guess who? ;)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/shriek_zpsbeb6b466.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/shriek_zpsbeb6b466.jpg.html)

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Post by: Matt on May 16, 2013, 12:48:06 AM
Blimey!  :o

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MARILYN-MONROE-RARE-ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1953-ALFRED-EISENSTAEDT-LIFE-MAGAZINE-PHOTO-/390594860943?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5af144978f&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MARILYN-MONROE-RARE-ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1953-ALFRED-EISENSTAEDT-LIFE-MAGAZINE-PHOTO-/390594860943?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5af144978f&_uhb=1)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 16, 2013, 12:51:43 AM
Quote from: Matt on May 16, 2013, 12:48:06 AM
Blimey!  :o

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MARILYN-MONROE-RARE-ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1953-ALFRED-EISENSTAEDT-LIFE-MAGAZINE-PHOTO-/390594860943?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5af144978f&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MARILYN-MONROE-RARE-ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1953-ALFRED-EISENSTAEDT-LIFE-MAGAZINE-PHOTO-/390594860943?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item5af144978f&_uhb=1)

What a great and beautiful shot!!   clap



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Post by: brude on May 16, 2013, 12:58:25 AM
Worth every penny to the right collector.
It is beautiful.
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Post by: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
CHRISTIE'S...STORY OF A DISSAPOINTMENT

I went to the viewing of the posters for auction this Friday. Not my first time at Christie's, but it could be the last time. Here are some pics and some thoughts. Interested to know what others think


CHRISTIE'S PART I: GENERAL VIEW

I thought the posters were badly displayed and it felt like they were un-loved. The last pic is the best example of how little care they took to display them- They managed to obstruct the viewing of THREE posters. Am I being unfair here? What do you think?

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0375_zps5d67a748.jpg)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0360_zps9816ab3b.jpg)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0356_zps2ede6a3f.jpg)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0355_zps11594f52.jpg)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0382_zpse2837862.jpg)

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Post by: Silhouette on May 20, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
I went to the viewing of the posters for auction this Friday. Not my first time at Christie's, but it could be the last time. Here are some pics and some thoughts. Interested to know what others think

You should feel privileged that they let you in the storage area for a sneak preview  :-\
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Post by: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 04:57:32 PM
CHRISTIE'S PART II: KILLING ME SOFTLY

OK. This is the thing. Would you be happy if this was your poster? Would you thank Christie's for this display and LTC? Well. I don't think so. All the posters are squeezed and crammed together bending the paper.

For the record, the waves are NOT because the poster was rolled but because it has been pinned to the wall with very little regard for the poster IMO.


OFFENDING POSTER 1- BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0372_zps9190e1e1.jpg)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0373_zps08c3aa15.jpg)



OFFENDING POSTER 2- BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM II

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0358_zpsb0c0d5fa.jpg)


OFFENDING POSTER 3 - OUPS GOOSE ON THE LOOSE..
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0371_zps920a28ed.jpg)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0367_zps38efeec5.jpg)

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Post by: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 05:13:02 PM
CHRISTIE'S PART III: HOW DARE YOU..THIS IS CASABLANCA, SHOW SOME RESPECT

I was green, blue, red, yellow. This poster was a mess. And I saw how they handled it...I could NOT believe it. It was difficult to appreciate this poster, it was too wavy, as it was not pinned properly against the wall.
And there wasn't a single straight wall in any of the rooms.

CURVY CASSABLANCA..

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0379_zpsde54974a.jpg)


UPPER SIDE

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0380_zpsdcb1220b.jpg)



LOWER END
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0381_zps7b91b075.jpg)



Well. I don't know. Maybe I am a bit unffair. I just didn't enjoy seeing this posters like this. It felt like ...bad.

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Post by: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 20, 2013, 04:49:38 PM
You should feel privileged that they let you in the storage area for a sneak preview  :-\



David, quite right! That's how it felt...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 20, 2013, 09:30:19 PM
It looks like a bunch of monkeys hung those posters.. especially the Casino Royale, made to "fit" the gently curving wall/corner....  eyeroll

But on the flip side.. GREAT pics, Rosa. Thanks for snapping and posting them!!

 ;)





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Post by: brude on May 20, 2013, 09:34:55 PM
I'm with you Rosa.
I would think a place like Christie's would've done a finer job of displaying these beauties.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
If you go back, how 'bout nicking that Outlaw six sheet and sending it this way?  Much obliged 8)
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Post by: Neo on May 20, 2013, 10:07:48 PM
I agree, Rosa.  Sloppy displays, and I'm sure that most consignors would expect better, but those are great pieces, that even when displayed not perfectly still look awesome.  Must've been cool to see them in person.  Thanks for posting the pics.  cool1
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Post by: CSM on May 20, 2013, 11:04:32 PM
You definitely should have absconded with the Casablanca purely out of moral obligation! 

That said, some of those are cardboard posters and may already have a curve in them...

BUT if they were from my collection I would not be too pleased.
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Post by: 50s on May 20, 2013, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 20, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Christies/IMAG0382_zpse2837862.jpg)


Hey Rosa, nice photos thanks for posting. Would you mind going back to rephotograph the Grace Kelly poster?



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Post by: Charlie on May 21, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 20, 2013, 11:22:25 PM

Hey Rosa, nice photos thanks for posting. Would you mind going back to rephotograph the Grace Kelly poster?




+1
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Post by: Mirosae on May 21, 2013, 12:38:38 PM
Thanks for your comments. I am glad I am not the only one who thought the display was rubbish...

Grace Kelly poster..Steeeve.... eyeroll
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Post by: paul waines on May 21, 2013, 12:44:35 PM
Yes, it seems Christies gets worse for Film posters every year, same titles, nothing different, and the estimates keep going up... eyeroll

Mind, if thats the To catch a Thief that was sold at Mallams last year, it certainly cleaned up nice.. Think I could pick it up for £200.. :D 
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 26, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-s-Bruce-Lee-Way-Of-The-Dragon-RARE-LP-/290918817026?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item43bc1cdd02

There are 3 versions of this LP.......mine does not fold out and has a picture of a moustached man on the back (prolly the band leader) , there's also a version with a dragon on the back cover. These do not surface a lot , came out around '75 or so.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 26, 2013, 06:37:06 PM
EMP's linens are up:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/15.html

I like:

Really captures the emotion of the scene:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/WayDownEast_zpsafaf62f4.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/WayDownEast_zpsafaf62f4.jpeg.html)

Needs some touch-up on the forehead but still a stunner:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/giant_size-1_zpsd371ac40.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/giant_size-1_zpsd371ac40.jpeg.html)

Can't call it a poster unless it has a man holding a woman who has fainted from terror (http://WWW.POSTERNIRVANA.COM/0DNE/0-GIFS/Scared-emoticon.gif)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/giant_size-3_zps4750ffe1.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/giant_size-3_zps4750ffe1.jpeg.html)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/giant_size-2_zps05ff3254.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/giant_size-2_zps05ff3254.jpeg.html)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/giant_size-1_zps210e0817.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/giant_size-1_zps210e0817.jpeg.html)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 26, 2013, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 26, 2013, 06:37:06 PM



Can't call it a poster unless it has a man holding a woman who has fainted from terror :)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/giant_size-3_zps4750ffe1.jpeg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/giant_size-3_zps4750ffe1.jpeg.html)



can't call it a poster unless it has a man OR A MONSTER, OR AN ANIMAL holding a woman who has fainted from terror.. or a woman who is DEAD OR NEARLY DEAD...

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 26, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 26, 2013, 06:44:28 PM
can't call it a poster unless it has a man OR A MONSTER, OR AN ANIMAL holding a woman who has fainted from terror.. or a woman who is DEAD OR NEARLY DEAD...

That was then but nowadays women can fend for themselves!

(http://WWW.POSTERNIRVANA.COM/0DNE2/2013-05/Machete%20Kills.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 26, 2013, 07:09:16 PM
BLIMEY...

WATERMELONIES ...FROM HELL ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on May 26, 2013, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 26, 2013, 07:09:16 PM
BLIMEY...

WATERMELONIES ...FROM HELL ;D

It's par for the course.  wynk


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Post by: Silhouette on May 26, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that those empty casings seem to not have a firing pin mark?

 eyeroll
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Post by: CSM on May 26, 2013, 10:43:11 PM
Shanghai Express = mmmm, mmmm, mmmm! wow
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Post by: 50s on May 26, 2013, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on May 26, 2013, 07:35:34 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that those empty casings seem to not have a firing pin mark?

 eyeroll


You may not be in the demographic of the target audience

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Post by: Silhouette on May 26, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: 50s on May 26, 2013, 10:54:28 PM

You may not be in the demographic of the target audience


This is true, I like 'em stacked not locked and loaded...
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Post by: paul waines on May 27, 2013, 02:54:41 AM
All I can think is she must be flat chested to store all that ammo there...
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Post by: Silhouette on May 27, 2013, 02:57:13 AM
Quote from: paul waines on May 27, 2013, 02:54:41 AM
All I can think is she must be flat chested to store all that ammo there...

Or perhaps all that ammo in there has caused the opposite effect?

(http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=zt0FXHBGFZqvXM&tbnid=E1rUP7bkFjlmuM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aceshowbiz.com%2Fimages%2Fwennpic%2Fsofia-vergara-2012-vanity-fair-oscar-party-02.jpg&ei=JQSjUcq_KcfOlAW8koGYCg&psig=AFQjCNHqJZ398UwY4F3gnM_bM54iCSvoyg&ust=1369724325841635)
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Post by: paul waines on May 27, 2013, 02:59:08 AM
I do know she'll have horrendous burn marks when she's done....Those guns don't half get hot.. :o
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Post by: Mirosae on May 27, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
I could do with  a pair of those to scare Pardoe55 off... he or she seems to want them all...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 27, 2013, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 27, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
I could do with  a pair of those to scare Pardoe55 off... he or she seems to want them all...

Order them (www.bulletbra.com)... just be sure to order the right size and caliber! It's all about comfort as well as style.   ;D





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Post by: Mirosae on May 27, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 27, 2013, 03:39:13 PM
Order them (www.bulletbra.com)... just be sure to get the right size! It's all about comfort as well as style   ;D







another ''expert'' in d' house?!!!  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 27, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 27, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
another ''expert'' in d' house?!!!  ;)

Indeed. The last thing we want is for you to feel too pinched or confined......  pcorn

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Post by: 110x75 on May 27, 2013, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 27, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
I could do with  a pair of those to scare Pardoe55 off... he or she seems to want them all...

He's got some cash, uh?
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Post by: CSM on May 27, 2013, 08:38:40 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on May 27, 2013, 08:08:59 PM
He's got some cash, uh?

He or she hasn't won anything yet!  :-*
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Post by: 110x75 on May 27, 2013, 08:39:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 27, 2013, 08:38:40 PM
He or she hasn't won anything yet!  :-*

You broke the piggy bank, my friend?
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Post by: Bruce on May 27, 2013, 10:09:19 PM
So far, he or she hasn't made any bids that look like retail prices to me. I honestly have no clue who this person is, but if they are currently at their limit on every item then I doubt they will get much of anything (but of course, they may be placing lots more bids, or have much higher maximums).

It could be they work (or own) another auction and are looking for quality items for their next big auction!
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Post by: 50s on May 28, 2013, 02:15:54 AM
Quote from: CSM on May 27, 2013, 08:38:40 PM
He or she hasn't won anything yet!  :-*

Half the purchases made by the person with that user name over the past few months on emovie have been for daybills ... Hmmmmm... bingo!

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Post by: Ari on May 28, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Any hammer Aussie posters? I'm too lazy to look, haha.
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Post by: Silhouette on May 28, 2013, 03:30:08 AM
Quote from: 50s on May 28, 2013, 02:15:54 AM
Half the purchases made by the person with that user name over the past few months on emovie have been for daybills ... Hmmmmm... bingo!

Ergo?
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Post by: Bruce on May 28, 2013, 07:32:24 AM
Quote from: Ari on May 28, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
Any hammer Aussie posters? I'm too lazy to look, haha.

You should create a "Want List" for them at https://www.emovieposter.com/members/wantlist.php

Nearly 2,000 of our bidders have created over 20,000 of these in all (you can have as many as you want) and that way they get emailed whenever we have, say, a "Hammer daybill".

Perfect for lazy bidders!

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Post by: 50s on May 28, 2013, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 28, 2013, 07:32:24 AM
Perfect for lazy bidders!


Ari, are you a lazy bidder?


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Post by: Ari on May 28, 2013, 07:50:34 AM
I sure am, and I didn't know about  this feature.
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Post by: paul waines on May 28, 2013, 11:27:30 AM
Me neither, may have to put a short list on.. :)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 28, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 27, 2013, 10:09:19 PM
So far, he or she hasn't made any bids that look like retail prices to me. I honestly have no clue who this person is, but if they are currently at their limit on every item then I doubt they will get much of anything (but of course, they may be placing lots more bids, or have much higher maximums).

It could be they work (or own) another auction and are looking for quality items for their next big auction!



All I can say is that he or she is bidding all over the place, this seems to be pardoe55 bidding party. 

I am really enjoying the bidding for Shanghai Express, Ba310552 Vs Pardoe55 vs iw296754   there is going to be blood there....
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Post by: crowzilla on May 28, 2013, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 28, 2013, 07:32:24 AM
You should create a "Want List" for them at https://www.emovieposter.com/members/wantlist.php

Nearly 2,000 of our bidders have created over 20,000 of these in all (you can have as many as you want) and that way they get emailed whenever we have, say, a "Hammer daybill".

Perfect for lazy bidders!


www.Movieposterexchange.com has also had this feature since the day it opened
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Post by: oldposterho on May 28, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 28, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
there is going to be blood there....

Yeah, so much for trying to score that in the unlikely event it flew under the radar.

Sigh...

--Peter
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Post by: Silhouette on May 28, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 28, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
All I can say is that he or she is bidding all over the place, this seems to be pardoe55 bidding party.  

I am really enjoying the bidding for Shanghai Express, Ba310552 Vs Pardoe55 vs iw296754  there is going to be blood there....

Or they are just bidding up everything for fun/spite to cause everyone to pay more (unnecessarily too I guess), rarely does the early leader come out on top. It will be interesting to see if they win any items of major value, and if they don't then the cynic in me will stick by my opening remark and if they do, then they are to be congratulated for such aggressive bidding
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 28, 2013, 09:24:17 PM
I agree with Heritage's reserve system for high profile auctions.

Set the reserve to 1/2 to 2/3 of the realistic sales price. That protects the consignor from a disastrous low final sale price, cuts out the frivolous early bids, and still leaves a chance for a bargain for serious bidders.

Some say that it's impossible to know what a "realistic sales price" is but most posters have been sold many times and it's very clear what the "fair market value" range will be for that poster.

(Of course, Heritage charges an obnoxious 20% buyer's premium, so jeers to them for that.)  

Most sellers won't set medium reserves because they think early meaningless bidding "stirs up excitement" but it's just a waste of time and the serious bidders don't pay any attention to the silly early bids.

I don't know Pardoe55's bid for This Gun For Hire but anything less than $12,000 is not serious.
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Post by: Zorba on May 28, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 28, 2013, 09:24:17 PM

Most sellers won't set medium reserves because they think early meaningless bidding "stirs up excitement" but it's just a waste of time and the serious bidders don't pay any attention to the silly early bids.

I am not that serious a bidder but I also find those early bids to be silly and pretty stupid. Maybe too stupid.  8)

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Post by: erik1925 on May 28, 2013, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 28, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
All I can say is that he or she is bidding all over the place, this seems to be pardoe55 bidding party. 

I am really enjoying the bidding for Shanghai Express, Ba310552 Vs Pardoe55 vs iw296754  

there is going to be blood there....


Especially when you have a poster like this, that hasn't been on the market before (or at least any time in years), the final amount of "blood letting" remains to be seen. As with any other poster, whether they be rare, vintage, foreign etc, it will come down to the last 2 (or 3) bidders that battle it out, with the deepest pocket taking it home.    whip


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Post by: Zorba on May 28, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Though I must admit in BIG $$$$$$$$$ cases like this, I am entertained.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 28, 2013, 09:44:39 PM
Quote from: Zorba on May 28, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Though I must admit in BIG $$$$$$$$$ cases like this, I am entertained.

 happy1

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Post by: Mirosae on May 29, 2013, 03:43:04 AM
I agree with David re early bids, I think it is stupid, tactically rarely pays off but I've got to say...it is mighty entertaing ...me having a good time ... ;)




 
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Post by: paul waines on May 29, 2013, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 29, 2013, 03:43:04 AM
I agree with David re early bids, I think it is stupid, tactically rarely pays off but I've got to say...it is mighty entertaing ...me having a good time ... ;)



That all depends on how you do it... ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on May 29, 2013, 12:34:38 PM
.....oh ...oh....so, Paul...you saying ?

I'm listening .... :D
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Post by: paul waines on May 29, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
 :-X  Don't give too much away.. But you know.....wynk
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Post by: Mirosae on May 29, 2013, 12:50:29 PM
  :-*
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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2013, 10:46:42 PM
Some people just enjoy seeing their username of the week as the high bidder on some very expensive items - no real intention of winning in many cases - but the stroll in Fantasyland must make them feel special...
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Post by: Charlie on May 30, 2013, 08:25:05 PM
Man, I really wanted these but it would have ruined my go at a June Major poster...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2987396#BID
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Post by: skyjackers on May 30, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
They're very nice, congratulations Mark.
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Post by: Charlie on May 30, 2013, 08:45:39 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on May 30, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
They're very nice, congratulations Mark.

Yes!  Well fought!  Would you mind sending me the pics without the watermarks once you get them?
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Post by: Charlie on May 31, 2013, 08:57:32 PM
Sometimes, I think botched resto jobs like this should just be turned away... I would like to hear from Bruce why posters like this one still make the cut.  Just curios - no angle or negative intentions here (as I know you've described it as fair pre-restoration...)  I mean could this be a converted 30 x 40 or something?  Everything has been completely repainted no grain or anything left at all...  You would think there was some of the original pieces intact...

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/052013/7year_SBS_small.jpg)

In case you are blind...
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/052013/7year_SBS.jpg

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2989455
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Post by: Bruce on May 31, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
The thing is there ARE some people who are happy with something like this, as long as they get a huge discount.

I personally would not make that choice, but who am I to say no one has a right to buy something because it has too much restoration.

At least I describe and grade it well, and provide an accurate super-sized image. No one bidding on it could say they were misled!
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Post by: ATLfun on May 31, 2013, 09:33:48 PM

 I can tell you from experience that ba and iw have no hesitation to blow by any all-time high for a poster they want.  Bastards!!!!!! (But good for them   wynk)


Brian

-Who is trying hard not to look at Bruce's previews.
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Post by: Charlie on May 31, 2013, 09:53:07 PM
Dibs on the Apoc German Rag...
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Post by: Zorba on May 31, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Charlie on May 31, 2013, 09:53:07 PM
Dibs on the Apoc German Rag...

 ;D

Godspeed sir.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
That Seven Year Itch is appalling, even worse than Bob Brooks' E.T. advance.  It really should be burned at the stake as a monstrosity.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2013, 05:01:59 AM
MM looking not as "glammed" in this photo version:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Itch_zps890ee3d4.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/Itch_zps890ee3d4.jpg.html)
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Post by: Mirosae on June 01, 2013, 09:33:04 AM
I am having the time of melife with Bruce's auction.. and that bidder.. uhm....

Pardoe55....Big brother is watching...

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tonterias/giraffe_zps1251aaa1.gif)



Such a pretty eyes!

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Post by: paul waines on June 01, 2013, 11:49:52 AM
I wonder where they buy the chewing gum...?
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2013, 12:56:06 PM
Wrigley's....

but in the JUMBO case packs.   ;D
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Post by: 110x75 on June 01, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
That Seven Year Itch is appalling, even worse than Bob Brooks' E.T. advance. 

Few things are worse than that Mel... :)

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 01, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
It really should be burned at the stake as a monstrosity.

That's what they said about this guy, but we love him

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Frankenstein%27s_monster_%28Boris_Karloff%29.jpg/200px-Frankenstein%27s_monster_%28Boris_Karloff%29.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
IF ANYONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT POSTERS THAT HAVE BEEN "DIPPED IN PAINT", THIS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS EXAMPLE OF ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN OFFERED BY ANY AUCTION ANYTIME RECENTLY

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK OFFERING THIS AS A POSTER IS CRIMINAL.
IT'S A STAND-ALONE PAINTING


Quote from: Charlie on May 31, 2013, 08:57:32 PM
Sometimes, I think botched resto jobs like this should just be turned away... I would like to hear from Bruce why posters like this one still make the cut.  Just curios - no angle or negative intentions here (as I know you've described it as fair pre-restoration...)  I mean could this be a converted 30 x 40 or something?  Everything has been completely repainted no grain or anything left at all...  You would think there was some of the original pieces intact...

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/052013/7year_SBS_small.jpg)

In case you are blind...
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/052013/7year_SBS.jpg

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2989455
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Post by: 110x75 on June 01, 2013, 02:48:22 PM
 pcorn
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 01, 2013, 02:51:37 PM
That Frankenstein meets the Wolf Man 1/2 sheet may give this some competition...

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg105384.html#msg105384
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2013, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on June 01, 2013, 02:51:37 PM
That Frankenstein meets the Wolf Man 1/2 sheet may give this some competition...

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg105384.html#msg105384

absolutely. it's a piece of shit just like that Seven Year Itch poster.. I mean painting
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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
The painter couldn't even get the bottom credit line to fit properly...I can't imagine what it could have looked like pre-resto to warrant that transformation!
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Post by: 50s on June 01, 2013, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 01, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
The painter couldn't even get the bottom credit line to fit properly...I can't imagine what it could have looked like pre-resto to warrant that transformation!

I think the whole line was redrawn not just the Litho/NSS number as mentioned in the description? Well anyway, we know it is heavily restored, just interesting how much was done so...


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/SevenYearItchFooter.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
Steve if you included the "Bill Wilder" credit for reference it would really have shown just how f'd up that bottom part is  :-*
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on June 01, 2013, 02:51:37 PM
That Frankenstein meets the Wolf Man 1/2 sheet may give this some competition...

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg105384.html#msg105384

At least they left Maria alone..... and she looks happy about that...  8)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/maria_zpsd4cf8659.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/maria_zpsd4cf8659.jpg.html)
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Post by: CSM on June 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/741061/thumbs/o-RESTORATION-570.jpg?4)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2013, 10:13:55 PM
WE HAVE A WINNER!   cheers


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Post by: Mirosae on June 02, 2013, 05:29:20 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/741061/thumbs/o-RESTORATION-570.jpg?4)



Oh dear...

dear..

dear oh

How much will Pardoe55 pay for this??
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Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2013, 01:06:24 PM
He would also need to pay to have it cut and removed from the church wall... plaster and all...

 ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
950.00 opening bid for a 1924 Hoot Gibson, locally printed broadside?

Seems a bit steep, imho.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hoot-Gibson-1924-Movie-Poster-Pendleton-Round-up-Let-er-Buck-Rodeo-Western-/200930027474?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec85ce7d2

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Post by: CSM on June 02, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
And after all the talk Pardoe55 wins one solitary poster...
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Post by: Silhouette on June 02, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 02, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
And after all the talk Pardoe55 wins one solitary poster...

Which one?
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Post by: Bruce on June 02, 2013, 06:12:39 PM
A  pretty darn nice one if you ask me!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/sunday//550/swing_time_linen_JC07350_L.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on June 02, 2013, 06:14:14 PM
Why are you Australian guys up now, anyway? Isn't it like the middle of the night there?

 laugh1
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Post by: CSM on June 02, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
David had to make sure he won the Swing Time of course...
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Post by: Mirosae on June 02, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 02, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
And after all the talk Pardoe55 wins one solitary poster...

I know..!
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Post by: Silhouette on June 02, 2013, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 02, 2013, 06:14:14 PM
Why are you Australian guys up now, anyway? Isn't it like the middle of the night there?

 laugh1

It's 8.20 am, I've been hard at work since 4.30am...  ;)

Quote from: CSM on June 02, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
David had to make sure he won the Swing Time of course...

Ahh now, that would be telling... ;)

But I did pick up the only one I wanted (got pushed more than I expected too), then grabbed another one on a whim on the way out the door.

So here's the problem...I've paid for them but I haven't had any shipping advice...damn slackers, what's going on up there?!  ;)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 03, 2013, 01:02:31 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIST-OF-FURY-Brue-Lee-Lo-Wei-Golden-Harvest-Original-UK-Quad-on-Linen-/360667661196?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item53f977c38c
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Post by: wonka on June 05, 2013, 01:11:21 AM
Bruce, what was the deal with Marilyn?

Also, any posters you can call Rich out on?
 pcorn
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Post by: erik1925 on June 05, 2013, 03:03:39 AM
It has finally arrived. The image is up on HA's site, for the July Sig Auction.  clap clap


Frankenstein (1931), US insert

(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F1%2F8%2F6%2F10186600%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: crowzilla on June 05, 2013, 03:19:50 AM
That is one Bad-ass poster!!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2013, 04:46:35 AM
Quote from: wonka on June 05, 2013, 01:11:21 AM
Also, any posters you can call Rich out on?

hey if there are, someone please let me know..
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Post by: CSM on June 05, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
Awesome Franky insert - very, very similar to the daybill as HA said
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Post by: paul waines on June 05, 2013, 12:04:36 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 05, 2013, 03:03:39 AM
It has finally arrived. The image is up on HA's site, for the July Sig Auction.  clap clap


Frankenstein (1931), US insert

(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F0%2F1%2F8%2F6%2F10186600%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


That really is jollyfine.... Now what to sell, to scare up the funds.. :-\
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on June 05, 2013, 01:20:28 PM
your house?
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Post by: CSM on June 05, 2013, 01:48:49 PM
Quote from: Mondo Hazardo on June 05, 2013, 01:20:28 PM
your house?

I was thinking a couple organs
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Post by: paul waines on June 05, 2013, 01:53:37 PM
I don't play the Organ...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 05, 2013, 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 05, 2013, 01:53:37 PM
I don't play the Organ...

Sure.

 laugh1
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Post by: movieposters on June 06, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
wow...the new king of 70's posters!!

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/jaws_zps933a9760.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 06, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
I think it has a ways to go before it can claim that crown!

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585
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Post by: Bruce on June 06, 2013, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: movieposters on June 06, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
wow...the new king of 70's posters!!

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a583/jstephenryan/jaws_zps933a9760.jpg)

Quit "outing" posters! SOME people here might not have known of it!

 laugh1 qip happy1
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Post by: Ari on June 08, 2013, 04:09:32 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 06, 2013, 10:22:10 PM
Quit "outing" posters!

Wait, that poster is gay? How can you tell?
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Post by: Louie D. on June 08, 2013, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 08, 2013, 04:09:32 AM
Wait, that poster is gay? How can you tell?

Just look at it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/robertpollard/tgos.jpg)
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Post by: movieposters on June 08, 2013, 06:09:35 PM
maybe the 14k difference is from the buyers premium  rofl1

Quote from: Harry Caul on June 06, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
I think it has a ways to go before it can claim that crown!

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89585
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Post by: Neo on June 08, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/83333510_zps78061023.gif) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/83333510_zps78061023.gif.html)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 09, 2013, 02:19:36 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Original-69-JAMES-BOND-007-OHMSS-French-Movie-Poster-1sh-Film-ski-art-/111085905464?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19dd3c6638
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Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
With 41 min to almost 2 hrs to go, give or take.. it looks like the battle for slot #1 on emovie may be between the US HS for Thief of Bagdad and the French 1P for Soupcans ..er Soupcons.. ;)

Although, the HS for The Most Dangerous Game could sneek up from the rear ...



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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on June 09, 2013, 04:12:28 PM
Go Mark! Well done on the Rebecca!
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Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2013, 04:32:06 PM
redknapp11 is taking a grand sweep at multiple items, too (and snagged some beauties last Sunday, as well).

Wow!

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Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2013, 04:48:34 PM
It's like a horse race..lol

JAWS and THIEF OF BAGDAD have pulled into the lead! 
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Post by: Bruce on June 09, 2013, 05:03:58 PM
There are bidding wars going on the top three posters at once. All different bidders!
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Post by: Zorba on June 09, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
Nothing like watching a good bidding war on a sunday afternoon.

Gratz to the Jaws poster.  :P
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Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2013, 02:22:19 PM
A nice looking Dracula US HS (1951 Realart RR):

$2300.00 OBO

(http://cklemautographs.com/image/drachsa.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121111676723?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Post by: Harry Caul on June 10, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
Except that Dracula barely feels like the focus in this particular piece...
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Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
I agree. It is interesting how they opted to make Van Helsing and Mina the primary imagery, with Lugosi off to the side.

I guess Realart wanted to mix it up a little.  ;)



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Post by: paul waines on June 10, 2013, 04:13:36 PM
I saw one of these up close a few years back, and must admit I was somewhat disappointed, especially at that kind of price... 
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Post by: movieposters on June 10, 2013, 05:17:29 PM
4 days of highly collectible posters via emov and "JAWS" ranked 3rd in highest bid.  You can't even make this up -yes, rare poster but it's from '75.  Who would have thought?   

Might be a stretch but it could point to a shift in buyers who are willing/able to put up $$ for paper that appeals to a different generation.  Look at these 'mondo' posters - new posters that are sold in limited quantities as quick as they're listed.   If you time it right, your $50/$100 investment could turn out to be a quick $500 or more within a matter of months.  Also have to consider "slabbed" cards which are also going for premiums, something that seems to intrigue younger collectors.

An interesting time in poster collecting to say the least...


Quote from: Zorba on June 09, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
Nothing like watching a good bidding war on a sunday afternoon.

Gratz to the Jaws poster.  :P
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Post by: Bruce on June 11, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
Remember old fashioned bidding wars?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2996279 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2996279)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/gallery_main/stormy_MF00894_L.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on June 11, 2013, 09:43:40 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 11, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
Remember old fashioned bidding wars?


How could I forget them? Its been 4-5 minutes since I have seen one.

Those boys wanted it bad. Good for them.


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Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
It's a beauty, that's for sure.

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Post by: brude on June 11, 2013, 10:00:22 PM
Great looking poster.  Worth every penny.  clap
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Post by: crowzilla on June 11, 2013, 10:28:36 PM
Bruce,
Would that be the same style Stormy one-sheet that you sold in 1998 for $18?
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Post by: CSM on June 11, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
I realize it's a much smaller format but HA sold the midget window card for Stormy for like $50 (with the BP!)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2013, 11:19:43 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 11, 2013, 10:28:36 PM
Bruce,
Would that be the same style Stormy one-sheet that you sold in 1998 for $18?


Chris, it looks like it was actually $13.00  ;)
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Post by: Ari on June 12, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
check out this BULK LOT

i only know a few people crazy enough to invest in this amount of paper. Warehouse required.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BULK-LOT-of-2-lobby-cards-CAMELOT-R73-RICHARD-HARRIS-VANESSA-REDGRAVE-/230870154716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c0eefddc&_uhb=1

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2013, 03:28:26 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 12, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
check out this BULK LOT

i only know a few people crazy enough to invest in this amount of paper. Warehouse required.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BULK-LOT-of-2-lobby-cards-CAMELOT-R73-RICHARD-HARRIS-VANESSA-REDGRAVE-/230870154716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c0eefddc&_uhb=1



is there anyone in Australia who could facilitate the removal, packaging & shipping of this huge bulk lot for me. I'll need someone who can carry it all in one load, sort of like Albrecht in the Adventures of Baron Munchausen
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Post by: Silhouette on June 12, 2013, 04:17:16 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2013, 03:28:26 AM
is there anyone in Australia who could facilitate the removal, packaging & shipping of this huge bulk lot for me. I'll need someone who can carry it all in one load, sort of like Albrecht in the Adventures of Baron Munchausen

Sure, I'll even front for the packaging AND the insurance, you pay the freight for me to personally deliver it...not sure what a round trip business class ticket to Signal Mountain, Tennessee cost now-a-days - seems worth it for a bulk lot
Title: Rolled Jaws 1sh
Post by: Undead on June 13, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
For those considering bidding on tonight's E-Bay auction for a rolled Jaws one sheet the poster listed as an original 27x41 one sheet is actually a 27x40. I received the measurements from the seller and recommended that he post this information in his auctions but thus far has not done so.

Just an FYI to anyone who may be considering bidding.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161039320421?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161039320421?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 13, 2013, 07:38:47 PM
this should also set off an alarm:

THIS WAS THE FIRST  THING I EVER BOUGHT ON EBAY ABOUT 21 YEARS AGO
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Post by: Ari on June 13, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
haha, that's when eBay was done via fax.
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Post by: Undead on June 13, 2013, 10:02:04 PM
Update: Was contacted by the owner who said he will let the winning bidder know and give them the chance to cancel the sale if they want.

Something is better than nothing I guess.
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Post by: skyjackers on June 14, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
I have a feeling this might be worth about £999 less than the seller thinks...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Very-Rare-and-Collectable-Bus-Shelter-Poster-/321135131239?pt=UK_Collectables_SciFi_fantasyCollectables_EH&hash=item4ac5253a67
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 14, 2013, 10:52:28 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LURLO-DI-CHEN-TERRORIZZA-ANCHE-LOCCIDENTE-N-4-Fotobuste-Originali-/221237829919?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

Prolly 1st issue , those are hell to find.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 14, 2013, 10:57:31 PM
A 1928 US insert for the Buster Keaton classic, Steamboat Bill, Jr. It's currently at $770.00, with 4 days to go..... even tho, per the seller's descrip, it has been laminated, both front and back.   :'(

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqFHJEwFGTdvsbEfBRtREfdy60_57_zpsb9d5484c.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqFHJEwFGTdvsbEfBRtREfdy60_57_zpsb9d5484c.jpg.html)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZHJBYFBUkrDBheBRtRE7S-g60_57_zpse18d1bae.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqZHJBYFBUkrDBheBRtRE7S-g60_57_zpse18d1bae.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steamboat-Bill-Jr-United-Artists-1928-14-X-36-Buster-Keaton-Original-NICE-/251287941833?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a81edb2c9


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Post by: CSM on June 14, 2013, 11:08:38 PM
I'd really like to know if there is a form of lamination that is reversible?

It's been discussed many times but I can't recall a definitive answer being provided.

General consensus is probably that lamination = ruined poster but it would also preserve it quite nicely me thinks.  How much would it affect the value on a very rare piece?

Thoughts?
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Post by: erik1925 on June 14, 2013, 11:20:20 PM
If this was done like any other type of basic lamination, that insert is in there for good, methinks.

Is the consensus that traditional lamination will generally devalue a poster (or WC, LC etc?)

At least there is no worry about spilling anything on or near it.  wynk
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Post by: Ari on June 14, 2013, 11:20:46 PM
us old forum buggers will remember Donnie, who was kicked off (?) Mopo and created Style B yahoo group (which NSF was named after) had professional involvement somehow with laminating. I forget how now.
Anyway he said there is a type of laminating that can be reversed, it might be difficult and expensive. I cant recall the names he used for the different types of laminating.

Ive said before, i have a handful of laminated posters, and yes it sucks, but at the same time, they are some of my favourite posters as wherever i move I can easily put up on my wall and enjoy. I wouldn't pay a great deal for a laminated poster, and id always of course rather not. But for some things its kinda good.
And I have a title lobby card forGHOST SHIP (from the Borst collection stamped under lamination) that Drak gave me thats just great on my shelf)

I've got some cheap posters that have god art id consider getting done (with a spare in storage) just for putting on my wall.

you lose the tactile pleasure of paper, but you gain the enjoyment of seeing it displayed (for people like me who cant afford framing)

im sure there is cases where it might be the only affordable way (or ONLY way) to get a particular item, if rare and desirable. AND collectors of genuinely RARE stuff cannot afford to be as fussy as people who collect relatively common stuff like BAT or CFTBL (let alone the latest batman).


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Post by: ozcinemagic on June 15, 2013, 12:16:34 AM
I had a lobby set for Day The Earth Stood Still that had been laminated. There was a massive difference in value to unlaminated so I made a lot of inquiries. Basically, you can't undo it because the plastic is melted onto the paper. The type of plastic used for lamination is acidic and will ruin paper over a long period of time. Historical documents etc are encapsulated, which is a different procedure and can be reversed.
The only possibility of trying to undo lamination is to dissolve the plastic in acetone. More than likely it will damage what's underneath.  :'(
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Post by: erik1925 on June 15, 2013, 12:23:43 AM
There're actually TWO laminated inserts in that auction, the other being for the 1928 Universal flick, Good Morning Judge... so it's a two'fer offer.  ;)

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Post by: Silhouette on June 15, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
Placemats
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Post by: Ari on June 15, 2013, 12:30:29 AM
actually, there is another type of lamination, where the glue or whatever it is is ONLY on the parts where the paper isn't (around the edge).
I had a long daybill which was like this.
 I removed myself. It got restored and now lives in one of our favourite collectors house.

laminated lobby cards do make great place mats though, and a 2F or 2p would be a good table cloth, and 24sheets can be fashioned into a marquee for an outdoor wedding. just some ideas..
.

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Post by: ozcinemagic on June 15, 2013, 12:36:42 AM
Can you imagine someone with a Stanley knife spending hours trying to pry around and under the edge of 8 lobby cards?
That was me!  eyeroll
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Post by: Silhouette on June 15, 2013, 12:36:50 AM
Buy up a pile of sets of Mexican lobby cards, mount them on a board, laminate and sell them at Paddington Market as placemats for the nouveau riche; colourful and different and a good use for them. Now where to get cheap Mx LCs...
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Post by: Ari on June 15, 2013, 12:52:33 AM
its a good idea, sell to a Tex mex restaurant even....??
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Post by: CSM on June 15, 2013, 12:58:30 AM
Quote from: Ari on June 15, 2013, 12:52:33 AM
its a good idea, sell to a Tex mex restaurant even....??

But as David said where can we possibly find some Mex-i-can lobbies?  Hmmm...
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Post by: Silhouette on June 15, 2013, 01:02:14 AM
(http://images.zaazu.com/img/thinking-idea-animated-animation-smiley-emoticon-000339-facebook.gif) I know, where oh where oh where...

(http://images.zaazu.com/img/Ariba-Ariba--mexico-mexican-america-smiley-emoticon-000722-facebook.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 15, 2013, 03:32:50 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 14, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
I have a feeling this might be worth about £999 less than the seller thinks...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Very-Rare-and-Collectable-Bus-Shelter-Poster-/321135131239?pt=UK_Collectables_SciFi_fantasyCollectables_EH&hash=item4ac5253a67

whatever the value, the real comment should be how the guy doesn't know what the top platic is: it's the protective film that such items are shipped with to prevent scratching the surface. You just peel it off
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Post by: crowzilla on June 15, 2013, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 14, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
I have a feeling this might be worth about £999 less than the seller thinks...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Very-Rare-and-Collectable-Bus-Shelter-Poster-/321135131239?pt=UK_Collectables_SciFi_fantasyCollectables_EH&hash=item4ac5253a67

Or it could be worth a great deal more:
http://www.movieposterexchange.com/buy.php?mode=poster_details&auction_id=1890
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Post by: skyjackers on June 15, 2013, 03:51:08 PM
I would agree if the condition was similar but I'm not sure you can save that one unfortunately.
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Post by: crowzilla on June 15, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
If what Rich stated is correct (and that could very well be the protective plastic), there is nothing it needs saving from.
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on June 15, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
Rich could be right, it could be protective film. Impossible to tell from here. It is possible though that it is NOT protective film and that it is ruined. Why? If it is a lenticular made of thick layered plastic, then why does he have heavy tile bricks weighing it down? Lenticulars should be flat. You really can't or shouldn't even try to roll one of these. Maybe it was rolled at some point and the layers started to separate because of it. Just a theory.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 15, 2013, 08:29:40 PM
i have a rolled lenticular of that size in my warehouse
aside from being difficult to flatten out, it is unharmed and my warehouse is hot in the summer, cold in the winter.

I'm sure it would be correctable though it may take some time

I'm also  certain the ebay poster was rolled of course and that's the reason the film is coming off in some spots already, but I'm equally certain the lenticular layers have not separated. the bubbled surface would have some image if that was the case.

doesn't mean I couldn't be wrong, but I believe someone who drives over to his place and examines it willd rive away with a bargain priced item
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Post by: CSM on June 15, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
So...

Do ya feel lucky?
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Post by: skyjackers on June 16, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 15, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
If what Rich stated is correct (and that could very well be the protective plastic), there is nothing it needs saving from.

Sorry, didn't read Rich's post. I hope he's right though.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 16, 2013, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 16, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
Sorry, didn't read Rich's post. I hope he's right though.

I believe I am Skyjack..
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Post by: erik1925 on June 16, 2013, 07:03:40 PM
I wrote and asked the seller about his Attack of the Clones bus stop lenticular.

He wrote me back & said it is not the thin protective film that could be peeled off, but rather is the top plastic layer of the poster itself that has separated in spots and now has that bubbled appearance.   :-[


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Post by: skyjackers on June 17, 2013, 05:06:00 AM
Me too, he said he took it to a print shop and they told him it could be removed with the application of some heat!?! Not sure I'd want to risk it but it would depend if I paid £1000 or £1 I guess.
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Post by: paul waines on June 17, 2013, 12:53:30 PM
Well, I don't think anyone would pay £1000, so it's the Quid .....bring on the blow-torch.. ;D
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 25, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
From the description: "The poster is in good condition and may have edgeware."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321149236852&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/JAMES-BOND-GOLDFINGER-OXFORD-CIRCUS-RE-RELEASE-POSTER-original-movie-poster-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/hfAAAMXQlgtRuki-/$T2eC16ZHJGkFFm31W2DOBRuki-frMQ~~60_12.JPG)


I think the edgewear may be the least of your worries!  :o
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Post by: guest8 on June 25, 2013, 01:25:32 PM
Same seller as above .. wtf is this ??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-original-movie-poster-/321149256125?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4ac5fcc1bd

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-original-movie-poster-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/gFoAAMXQSnVRawHq/$T2eC16ZHJGkFFm3NY)VRBR,wHp8GC!~~60_12.JPG)
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Post by: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 01:31:28 PM
Best T2 poster I've seen... :D
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Post by: Charlie on June 25, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on June 25, 2013, 01:25:32 PM
Same seller as above .. wtf is this ??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-original-movie-poster-/321149256125?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item4ac5fcc1bd

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-original-movie-poster-/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/gFoAAMXQSnVRawHq/$T2eC16ZHJGkFFm3NY)VRBR,wHp8GC!~~60_12.JPG)

Quick outing auctions!  You punk...  ;D  :P

Actually, I may just have to bid on this for bragging rights.  Now correct me if I am wrong but I don't remember those two girls anywhere in the movie...
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Post by: guest8 on June 25, 2013, 02:34:04 PM
Quote from: Charlie on June 25, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Quick outing auctions!  You punk...  ;D  :P

Actually, I may just have to bid on this for bragging rights.  Now correct me if I am wrong but I don't remember those two girls anywhere in the movie...

haha sorry bud! I promise to not bid on it so that you can have it! :) AS for the girls .. nope .. no where in the film .. and I am no scholar and I always catch myself misspelling things but I dont think anything is spelled correctly on that poster!!
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 25, 2013, 03:53:26 PM
I don't remember it being directed by "Marlon" either...
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Post by: Silhouette on June 25, 2013, 04:03:43 PM
No idea where that tag line is from either.

However, I am pretty sure the sunglasses are accurate.
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Post by: 110x75 on June 25, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 01:31:28 PM
Best T2 poster I've seen... :D

Without a doubt  happy1
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Post by: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
And while we're outing Auctions.... eyeroll

If this isn't a case of someone being run up, I'm a Chinaman....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130930380058?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648


The seller has only two feedbacks, and one of those is warning people to beware as the guy who left it couldn't give a neg..

If anyone on here is the guy with 1300 feedbacks, please stop being stupid..you should know better.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 25, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
The Bank Dick looks like an undersized Portal repro.  :P


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Post by: CSM on June 25, 2013, 04:45:01 PM
Well he does state:

All original and are all beautifully framed in glass except one

An underhanded way of slipping disclosure on the supposed repro in there!  eyeroll
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Post by: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 04:46:00 PM
The "bidder" with No feedback is bidding on pool tables, and Bowls stuff and has 100% bids with said seller... Said seller is selling Bowls stuff and Pool table, so he's also running up those items..
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Post by: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 04:47:28 PM
Top of his listing states Prints too, so he's trying to cover all tracks..
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Post by: brude on June 25, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
Nice find, Mr. Waines.
I dig it when the good guys put the sunlight on the shysters.
 cheers
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Post by: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
I do hope if anyone on here has put a bid on this, they read that it's missing 5" X 40" of poster...That's bloody expensive for a trimmed Quad on this title.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRUCE-LEE-RARE-VINTAGE-CINEMA-POSTER-/130933857873?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item1e7c441e51
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 28, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
What a shame... great poster.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 28, 2013, 01:57:11 PM
The seller gives a ink to another that has been offered and his quad looks the same..no missing edge or artwork.

Maybe he just measured it wrong?

Here' the other link he offered, showing the same quad, as a reference: http://www.originalposter.co.uk/fulldetails.asp?rid=10321

And here are both the seller's pic and the reference image. The seller's copy looks identical, size wise:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqVrUFEuVIguCUBRogm9Rgnw60_58_zps33eebbcf.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/KGrHqVrUFEuVIguCUBRogm9Rgnw60_58_zps33eebbcf.jpg.html)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/73146998883_full_zpsa4b283d2.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/73146998883_full_zpsa4b283d2.jpg.html)
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Post by: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
Jeff, you need to go to Spec-savers...
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Post by: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
I can't  believe I'm explaining this....  Under Bob Walls name the rest of the credits are missing, and a load of Black boarder...

The sizes don't even look the same..
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Post by: erik1925 on June 28, 2013, 02:03:06 PM
Me specs were fogged and the coffee hadn't quite kicked in...lol

Yes.. i see the black bottom area is trimmed...OOOPS...

Me bad.. off to a corner I go... ;)

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Post by: Harry Caul on June 28, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
Jeff, you need to go to Spec-savers...

 laugh1
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Post by: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 02:06:33 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a trim Black bottom myself.... that is what you said right...?
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Post by: CSM on June 28, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 28, 2013, 02:06:33 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a trim Black bottom myself.... that is what you said right...?

 ;D ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on June 28, 2013, 02:10:32 PM
Indeed.

 ;D
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Post by: paul waines on June 29, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 25, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
And while we're outing Auctions.... eyeroll

If this isn't a case of someone being run up, I'm a Chinaman....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130930380058?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648


The seller has only two feedbacks, and one of those is warning people to beware as the guy who left it couldn't give a neg..

If anyone on here is the guy with 1300 feedbacks, please stop being stupid..you should know better.


Remember this above, Well just shows greed, and being a conman is not the thing..... He won all 3 of his own items..... laugh1
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on June 29, 2013, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: paul waines on June 29, 2013, 02:56:16 PM

Remember this above, Well just shows greed, and being a conman is not the thing..... He won all 3 of his own items..... laugh1

Unless that was his plan, then a couple days later he offers the bidder right below him a second chance offer...
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Post by: paul waines on June 29, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
Quite true, we'll have to wait for the feedback..
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 02, 2013, 08:16:52 AM
97 year old poster - in great shape for its age - now at $2,000: (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3020959)

(http://WWW.POSTERNIRVANA.COM/0DNE2/2013-06/americano_JC08113_L.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on July 02, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
This poster seems to be everywhere .... i love Douglas Fairbanks though this poster is not my cup of tea....
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Post by: paul waines on July 02, 2013, 12:26:42 PM
I must agree with Rosa here.....yikes, I Sound like Jeff.... ;)

As much as it's from a period I like, I find it a very dull poster, and wouldn't spend $50 on it never mind that price...
     ...takes all kinds I guess.
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Post by: Mirosae on July 02, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
I bet Jeff is going to disagree now.....   ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on July 02, 2013, 03:54:44 PM
I agree with Paul. :)

A Fairbanks, yes, but with it being a simple portrait image, I too, would pass.

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Post by: paul waines on July 02, 2013, 05:19:11 PM
Great minds Jeff... :D
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Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on July 03, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
Just saw this in my eBay feed under Italian Posters for some reason (eBay needs to fine tune their results)...  I'm sure someone in this forum would love it... It's a US 1-sheet

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forbidden-Zone-Movie-Poster-/251299275667

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Forbidden-Zone-Movie-Poster-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTMz/z/Ri4AAOxyfS1R1G0l/$(KGrHqV,!nsFG0oY-SNnBR1G0ld65Q~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: Mirosae on July 03, 2013, 06:02:38 PM
 :o :-X
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Post by: erik1925 on July 03, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
"The plane, boss, the plane!!"

 laugh1
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Post by: holiday on July 03, 2013, 11:41:47 PM
That is one re-fuckin-diculous poster!
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Post by: erik1925 on July 04, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
Um....OK....  a linen backed US OS for The Baroness and the Butler (1938).

$10,000.00 opening bid, or BIN for only $13K..  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-BARONESS-AND-THE-BUTLER-ORIGINAL-1938-WILLIAM-POWELL-ANNABELLA-27x41-ONE-SHT-/231010276723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c9491573

Bruce also sold a backed copy, back in Sept 2011, for $165.00.  ;D



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Post by: stewart boyle on July 04, 2013, 02:42:38 AM
That poster rocks,Herve and Oingo boingo..fantastic :D

Stew
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Post by: Silhouette on July 04, 2013, 03:14:40 AM
It seems dw1965 really really likes movie scripts as he/she leads on over 30% of the scripts with bids of more than $1. Although perhaps they are bidding for the fun because the odds of being able to get all the ones he/she leads on are nigh on impossible...http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/13.html

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Post by: stewart boyle on July 04, 2013, 03:21:58 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 04, 2013, 03:14:40 AM
It seems dw1965 really really likes movie scripts as he/she leads on over 30% of the scripts with bids of more than $1. Although perhaps they are bidding for the fun because the odds of being able to get all the ones he/she leads on are nigh on impossible...http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/13.html


Looks like dw is bidding on a lot of populist items..
Good investment IMO

Stew
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Post by: Mirosae on July 04, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Yes.. I noticed that too.. and I am surprised that he/she allposterforum is not bidding this time around.. whoever he/she/they/we/i/you/ are....
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Post by: Silhouette on July 04, 2013, 07:00:02 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on July 04, 2013, 03:21:58 AM
Looks like dw is bidding on a lot of populist items..
Good investment IMO

Maybe so, but when you show your hand this early in the piece I suspect people will bid you up just for the fun of it too.
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Post by: brude on July 05, 2013, 07:30:38 AM
If I only had $750-plus to burn...  wynk

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181170322123&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181170322123&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
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Post by: Bruce on July 05, 2013, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on July 04, 2013, 07:00:02 PM
Maybe so, but when you show your hand this early in the piece I suspect people will bid you up just for the fun of it too.

Not so easy to do on eMoviePoster as it is on other sites. There is NO retracting bids, as there are just about everywhere else, and each person can only have one account, and if they don't pay for a bid they make "for the fun of it", then THE PERSON (not the ID) gets permanently banned, and we have many ways to track down people who sneak back on under a new ID.

So a person has everything to lose and nothing to gain by making such "fun bids" (or prank bids, as we call them).
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Post by: erik1925 on July 05, 2013, 12:02:17 PM
Quote from: brude on July 05, 2013, 07:30:38 AM
If I only had $750-plus to burn...  wynk

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181170322123&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181170322123&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)

What people wont try and sell.....lol.
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Post by: Ari on July 05, 2013, 10:25:23 PM
Shit I'd love to have it, haha, al Adamson is a god. Well almost.
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Post by: CSM on July 06, 2013, 12:18:45 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 05, 2013, 10:25:23 PM
Shit I'd love to have it, haha, al Adamson is a god. Well almost.

Ari you're the only gawd in these parts!
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Post by: Ari on July 06, 2013, 02:52:01 AM
Id sell my END if I had one, for less cash also.
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Post by: Simes on July 07, 2013, 05:16:07 AM
An Oxford Circus Goldfinger quad, no less.

(That might have the odd fold in it)

Seems like a reliable seller...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDFINGER-JAMES-BOND-OXFORD-CIRCUS-QUAD-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/161060940184?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item257ffae998#ht_23wt_1313

No danger in this auction being outed.
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Post by: Posteroid on July 11, 2013, 02:28:18 AM
ebay seller claiming a 1976 rerelease B2 for YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a first release "B poster":

You only live twice 76RR (http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-YOU-ONLY-LIVE-TWICE-1967-JAPAN-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-JAPANESE-B-/360692977258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fafa0e6a)

It's common knowledge among collectors of Japanese movie posters that the eirin mark of the rerelease of this title is identical with the first release (a mistake by the distributor). Another example for suche mistake is the BULLIT rerelease.
I mailed the seller the information and also sent him a pic of the actual first release. Seller found my email "interesting" and said he will do more research on this.
So either he is not very knowledgeable about Japanese posters or he is trying to fool potential buyers.

Armin
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Post by: Simes on July 11, 2013, 03:19:17 AM
Quote from: Simes on July 07, 2013, 05:16:07 AM
An Oxford Circus Goldfinger quad, no less.

(That might have the odd fold in it)

Seems like a reliable seller...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDFINGER-JAMES-BOND-OXFORD-CIRCUS-QUAD-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/161060940184?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item257ffae998#ht_23wt_1313

No danger in this auction being outed.

Can't believe it actually has some bids on it...
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on July 11, 2013, 04:56:34 AM
Quote from: Simes on July 07, 2013, 05:16:07 AM
An Oxford Circus Goldfinger quad, no less.

(That might have the odd fold in it)

Seems like a reliable seller...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDFINGER-JAMES-BOND-OXFORD-CIRCUS-QUAD-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-/161060940184?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item257ffae998#ht_23wt_1313

No danger in this auction being outed.

In that condition, I can't believe it was even offered for sale!
Starting bid of £110.00? Good on him for getting the price!
I sold one of these at the Westminster fair last year for £90.00 and it wasn't mint, had a few problems but not as bad as the above!

Quote from: Posteroid on July 11, 2013, 02:28:18 AM
ebay seller claiming a 1976 rerelease B2 for YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a first release "B poster":

You only live twice 76RR (http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-YOU-ONLY-LIVE-TWICE-1967-JAPAN-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-JAPANESE-B-/360692977258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fafa0e6a)

It's common knowledge among collectors of Japanese movie posters that the eirin mark of the rerelease of this title is identical with the first release (a mistake by the distributor). Another example for suche mistake is the BULLIT rerelease.
I mailed the seller the information and also sent him a pic of the actual first release. Seller found my email "interesting" and said he will do more research on this.
So either he is not very knowledgeable about Japanese posters or he is trying to fool potential buyers.

Armin

I am sure that seller is registered on this forum or it could be some others?
Anyway, Armin, I'm surprised he hasn't implemented your information as I know you are very intelligent on this matter - one look at your website proves this.
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Post by: Ari on July 15, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=161062889051

If that doesn't work

eBay item 161062889051

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Post by: paul waines on July 15, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
All that money and not a sign of Miss Munro... ;)
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Post by: Ari on July 15, 2013, 12:48:21 PM
Ha yeah.
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Post by: guest4185 on July 18, 2013, 05:39:46 AM
Just went to look at the Signature auction and can't see Frankenstein insert at the top of the list. Is it just me or has it gone?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 18, 2013, 05:46:52 AM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83237

$56k and counting
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Post by: erik1925 on July 18, 2013, 05:47:51 AM
Quote from: Rick on July 18, 2013, 05:39:46 AM
Just went to look at the Signature auction and can't see Frankenstein insert at the top of the list. Is it just me or has it gone?

Right here, Rick:

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83237

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Post by: guest4185 on July 18, 2013, 06:21:26 AM
Obviously, it was just me...not that i'm bidding in that league.
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Post by: Simes on July 18, 2013, 07:13:55 AM
Quote from: bondposters.com on July 11, 2013, 04:56:34 AM
In that condition, I can't believe it was even offered for sale!
Starting bid of £110.00? Good on him for getting the price!
I sold one of these at the Westminster fair last year for £90.00 and it wasn't mint, had a few problems but not as bad as the above!
The Goldfinger quad went for £205!  Gulp.

Private bidders so no idea whether it was just two people battling it out.
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Post by: Charlie on July 18, 2013, 02:13:55 PM
Really?  There's no coming back from faded... Plus my wife and I tried to match that pink orange color on the Belgian version and it sucks...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3042810
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 21, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
Most watched movie poster on Ebay right now (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/posters-and-prints/movie/auctions?sort=most-watched) - quickly picked up many watchers and bidders:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-07/Breakfast.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on July 21, 2013, 06:11:09 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 21, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
Most watched movie poster on Ebay right now (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/posters-and-prints/movie/auctions?sort=most-watched) - quickly picked up many watchers and bidders:

Nice for the completist, but nothing says BAT like a full length Hepburn
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 22, 2013, 04:45:57 AM
Hmmm, how much does prior ownership by a celebrity enhance the value of a poster? 

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-07/Hendrix1.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-07/Hendrix2.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on July 22, 2013, 08:59:40 AM
It adds a different collector market to the mix.
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Post by: CSM on July 22, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Looks faded to hell?
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Post by: 110x75 on July 22, 2013, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: CSM on July 22, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Looks faded to hell?

That's where rock & roll belongs, right?
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Post by: Ari on July 22, 2013, 10:32:11 AM
Imagine if it was a giant sheet of acid soaked paper?
Might not be so much of a rip off.
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Post by: CSM on July 22, 2013, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 22, 2013, 10:32:11 AM
Imagine if it was a giant sheet of acid soaked paper?
Might not be so much of a rip off.

Purple Haze?
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Post by: Ari on July 22, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Sht yeah, I'll take three tabs and see you cats later.
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Post by: paul waines on July 22, 2013, 11:48:25 AM
I have a Horror poster that was owned by Edwin Neal, does that make it worth more...? :D
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Post by: guest8 on July 22, 2013, 12:42:24 PM
I dont know.. that framed print out looks awful simple to me. I wouldn't accept it as adding anything of value just because it could have been faked as well. But if some of you think that's good enough to prove lineage, I have some Transformers 3 posters that were also owned by Jimi Hendrix as well, and Ill even cut you a deal and sell than to you for $1k each!! ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 22, 2013, 02:19:39 PM
It's a 40x60, no doubt the real deal. Certainly the ownership story seems plausible but I would not pay much of a premium for it. If JH had signed it, perhaps it would be worth a lot more.
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Post by: Posteroid on July 22, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 22, 2013, 04:45:57 AM
Hmmm, how much does prior ownership by a celebrity enhance the value of a poster? 

It's so absurd to sell a poster on the basis that someone else owned it before. Could somewhat understand if it were a guitar in Hendrix's case, but not a piece of paper.
Anyway, I find all kinds of "celebrity" worship dumb beyond belief.

Armin
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Post by: CSM on July 22, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Posteroid on July 22, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
It's so absurd to sell a poster on the basis that someone else owned it before. Could somewhat understand if it were a guitar in Hendrix's case, but not a piece of paper.
Anyway, I find all kinds of "celebrity" worship dumb beyond belief.

Armin

But what about Ari Richards worship?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 22, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: CSM on July 22, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
But what about Ari Richards worship?

that's worse than Kardashian worship

or even Snooki worship
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Post by: Posteroid on July 22, 2013, 04:45:10 PM
The Church of Ari does not encourage worship.
Donations are welcome though (please PM me for the official account details, tax deductible).

Armin
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 22, 2013, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Posteroid on July 22, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
It's so absurd to sell a poster on the basis that someone else owned it before. Could somewhat understand if it were a guitar in Hendrix's case, but not a piece of paper.
Anyway, I find all kinds of "celebrity" worship dumb beyond belief.

Armin

Hendrix had phenomenal talent and was/is far more than a "celebrity." 

I agree that society is inundated with no-talent "celeb-ritards" like the Kardashians, most royalty, Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Justin Bieber, etc.  They will be forgotten in short order....
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Post by: Ari on July 22, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: Posteroid on July 22, 2013, 04:45:10 PM
The Church of Ari does not encourage worship.
Donations are welcome though (please PM me for the official account details, tax deductible).

Armin

Thanks archangel Armin.
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Post by: CSM on July 22, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/60661_10152728203175112_845003188_n.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on July 22, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 25, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
40x60 Rocky poster from 1977.  No.  Why not?

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161331&lotIdNo=17021
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Post by: 50s on July 26, 2013, 08:18:03 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 25, 2013, 10:03:27 PM
40x60 Rocky poster from 1977.  No.  Why not?

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161331&lotIdNo=17021


Rocky actually invented the internet, in between rounds 7 and 8, back in '76

(Good spotting eagle eye Mel)




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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 26, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
Well, damn, the French Line 40x60 just blew up to $1,550 (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83420&lotIdNo=37016), top of the estimate range.  It is exceptional but for that money I'll just live with the one sheet (http://www.posternirvana.com/Main/Decade-1950s/large-34.html).  Probably the only 40x60 around for this movie....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-07/French.jpeg)

The Hot Car Girl 40x60 has exploded to $5,000 (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83025#Photo), FOUR TIMEs the top estimate:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-07/Hot%20Car.jpeg)

Once you've had 40x60, one sheets just aren't good enough no mo'....
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Post by: CSM on July 27, 2013, 12:33:54 AM
Estimates are for suckers.  They give a false sense of what you *should* be paying for a poster and only aid the seller...
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Post by: 50s on July 27, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
Quote from: CSM on July 27, 2013, 12:33:54 AM
Estimates are for suckers.  They give a false sense of what you *should* be paying for a poster and only aid the seller...

Yes and that's why I believe Bruce wont restrict access to his auction results archives (e.g. thru introducing paid access), unless the economy is firing on all cylinders and people are splashing big $, the results may then look cheap and encourage people to bid lower than they otherwise may have
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2013, 12:42:58 AM
I estimate all posters sell for a million dollahs

if you buy any for less, you are getting a bargain
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Post by: CSM on August 08, 2013, 12:39:57 AM
Yeah it's kinda ugly but for what it is amazing to see it currently resides in Canada:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASABLANCA-Humphrey-Bogart-Ingrid-Bergman-Original-Movie-Poster-1942-/310720079807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item48585c27bf

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CASABLANCA-Humphrey-Bogart-Ingrid-Bergman-Original-Movie-Poster-1942-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTE0/z/Z6IAAMXQ4uJSArTj/$T2eC16h,!wsE9suw0P0CBS!rTi8FUQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: 110x75 on August 08, 2013, 07:38:08 AM
It ain't the only ugly thing currently residing in Canada...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 08, 2013, 05:00:23 PM
so, has anyone ever seen this poster before?

(http://www.movieposterbid.com/images/287_0001.jpg)

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Post by: CSM on August 08, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
Just in my nightmares Rich
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Post by: 110x75 on August 08, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
the argentinean looks exactly like that -but with nicer colors-
But nop, haven't seen that one before
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Post by: Mirosae on August 09, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 08, 2013, 12:39:57 AM
Yeah it's kinda ugly but for what it is amazing to see it currently resides in Canada:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASABLANCA-Humphrey-Bogart-Ingrid-Bergman-Original-Movie-Poster-1942-/310720079807?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item48585c27bf

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/CASABLANCA-Humphrey-Bogart-Ingrid-Bergman-Original-Movie-Poster-1942-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTE0/z/Z6IAAMXQ4uJSArTj/$T2eC16h,!wsE9suw0P0CBS!rTi8FUQ~~60_57.JPG)



A colleague of mine is considering this one.  I will never buy something like this on ebay, but  it is her money.... :-X
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Post by: CSM on August 09, 2013, 04:49:53 PM
You have some well-off colleagues Rosa!  ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on August 09, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
Indeed...She bought a  David Hockney back January...so she certainly has the cash to splash!
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Post by: CSM on August 09, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on August 09, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
Indeed...She bought a  David Hockney back January...so she certainly has the cash to splash!

Will be sad to see it leave Canada (even though I have no real personal interest in it)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 09, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 09, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Will be sad to see it leave Canada (even though I have no real personal interest in it)

don't worry.. It probably won't be leaving the solar system anytime soon

 ;D
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Post by: crowzilla on August 09, 2013, 06:10:42 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on August 09, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
A colleague of mine is considering this one.  I will never buy something like this on ebay, but  it is her money.... :-X

While the seller is certainly known and your friend would receive her poster, I would advise her to compare the large image of this one with copies from Heritage's archive.  Not only are the colors off on this poster, but the "toothless Bogie" gives me pause. This poster has been heavily airbrushed.
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Post by: Mirosae on August 09, 2013, 06:36:19 PM
Thank you!! You just gave me some food for thought.

I promised her that I will ask here in APF about the seller, as I never heard about him. I already directed her to  HA and gave her my HA catalogue. She is thinking about it.

I agree with what you say about the look of this poster. From our conversation, she thinks it is rare and this might be her only chance. Not sure if she is right as HA sold one few months ago?  She knows the restorer of this poster, she likes his work and that is a plus for her. So...will see.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 09, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
That Casablanca poster blows chunks  puke

What a waste of money if she buys it....
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Post by: CSM on August 09, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 09, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
don't worry.. It probably won't be leaving the solar system anytime soon

 ;D

Let me know once it ends up on Uranus Rich ;)
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Post by: 110x75 on August 09, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 09, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
Let me know once it ends up on Uranus Rich ;)

Well played Sir.
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Post by: Zorba on August 09, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 09, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
Well played Sir.

 ;D cheers
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 09, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 09, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
Let me know once it ends up on Uranus Rich ;)

probably about the same time it ends up in Uranus

 :P
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Post by: CSM on August 10, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 09, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
probably about the same time it ends up in Uranus

 :P

That's a departure only terminal
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 10, 2013, 01:47:30 AM
 eyeroll
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Post by: paul waines on August 11, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
I don't normally out any auctions, but these are F.O.H. Stills, and not posters. Also very cheap at the moment, one of you Bogart fans may get a steal...


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360714436237&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123
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Post by: Bruce on August 11, 2013, 04:05:12 PM
Check out those 17 20TH CENTURY FOX 75TH ANNIVERSARY commercial posters, ending as I type this! How many of you got a set (or some of them) three years ago?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/1/15.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/1/15.html)
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 11, 2013, 08:00:53 PM
Sure wish chicken littles would out their id's to know who dropped bombs this evening!
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Post by: Zorba on August 11, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on August 11, 2013, 08:00:53 PM
Sure wish chicken littles would out their id's to know who dropped bombs this evening!

+1

I was shut out. Had two on the big radar and didnt even get a bid in.

Maybe I should bid early?  :P  ;D
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Post by: Zorba on August 11, 2013, 11:07:16 PM
Ditto that with Heritage.

Prices going up? or am I just having a bad/good dream?  :D
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Post by: kovacs01 on August 12, 2013, 12:28:53 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on August 11, 2013, 08:00:53 PM
Sure wish chicken littles would out their id's to know who dropped bombs this evening!
weren't me.
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Post by: holiday on August 12, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
Nor I.  There were some really spectacular results and without doubt there is strong collecting activity going on.  I don't think any of the big items sold for an amount that surprised me.  I think those Gremlins posters were actually rarer than the Matrix lightning style.  I'm definitely pleased to see the results because I have a lot of what sold for big money!
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Post by: jpicken on August 12, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
The Matrix Lightning Style final result blew me away. I wish I had an extra copy.
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Post by: holiday on August 22, 2013, 12:05:20 AM
Will the roll of Escape From New York posters ever end?  At this rate, it will be a $20 poster in a few weeks....
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Post by: CSM on August 22, 2013, 12:46:55 AM
Quote from: holiday on August 22, 2013, 12:05:20 AM
Will the roll of Escape From New York posters ever end?  At this rate, it will be a $20 poster in a few weeks....

Same as The Thing, Blade Runner etc...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 31, 2013, 11:15:55 AM
Really curious where this "Canadian/second international" LA Confidential one sheet (not my consignment) will end up.  I paid $750 for mine from a random Ebay auction, this one could blow up at the end...

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Conf_zps45b82356.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/Conf_zps45b82356.jpg.html)

This Matrix international one sheet IS my consignment, full disclosure. (I've consigned most of my "pictures of the stars" modern posters, not matter how cool they are.)  Woohoo!  I paid $60 for it.  (Of course in the big picture, I've lost boatloads of money in this hobby, but who's counting).  Frankly, I didn't expect it to go this high since another copy sold recently, taking out one bidder, and I don't expect it will go much higher, especially since the UK quad has the same image:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-08/Matrix.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on August 31, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
That Matrix intl is one of the worst posters I have ever seen, no offense Mel. I hope you get a boatload from it. I would have done the same thing.
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Post by: Zorba on August 31, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: wonka on August 31, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
That Matrix intl is one of the worst posters I have ever seen, no offense Mel. I hope you get a boatload from it. I would have done the same thing.

Yeah, I have the Swedish poster with that image. Sometimes drinking and bidding will land you that 1 star poster  :P  hitself
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Post by: paul waines on August 31, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
Gotta love the way Z collects, there's no other way..... ;D
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Post by: archie leach on August 31, 2013, 03:54:35 PM
Quote from: wonka on August 31, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
That Matrix intl is one of the worst posters I have ever seen, no offense Mel. I hope you get a boatload from it. I would have done the same thing.
Agree 100%.

Quote from: Zorba on August 31, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Yeah, I have the Swedish poster with that image. Sometimes drinking and bidding will land you that 1 star poster  :P  hitself

Better a 1 star poster than a 1 star wife...
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Post by: Silhouette on August 31, 2013, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 31, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Yeah, I have the Swedish poster with that image. Sometimes drinking and bidding will land you that 1 star poster  :P  hitself

 ;D
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Post by: Zorba on August 31, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: paul waines on August 31, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
Gotta love the way Z collects, there's no other way..... ;D

 :D

Money is wasted on the rich.... :P
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Post by: holiday on August 31, 2013, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 31, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Yeah, I have the Swedish poster with that image. Sometimes drinking and bidding will land you that 1 star poster  :P  hitself

I have both versions, but I picked up the Swedish version because it's double sided and can be displayed.

I like the LA Confidential, but boy I would not spend that money on it.  I remember when Mel bought his a few years back.  I think he's probably a bit older and wiser now, but who am I to talk with some of the prices I have paid!
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Post by: CSM on August 31, 2013, 11:56:38 PM
Quote from: paul waines on August 31, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
Gotta love the way Z collects, there's no other way..... ;D

Bidding + cheers + next morning =  hitself
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Post by: paul waines on September 01, 2013, 03:48:50 AM
I don't know about that Chris, I've bought some of my best posters after several glasses of Red... 

It always makes/helps me bid more. :D
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Post by: Zorba on September 01, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: paul waines on September 01, 2013, 03:48:50 AM
I don't know about that Chris, I've bought some of my best posters after several glasses of Red... 

It always makes/helps me bid more. :D

Sure does.   :)
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Post by: Ari on September 01, 2013, 09:13:12 AM
I gave up drinking about three years ago, and I've probably bought less posters in those years than I would in a month when I was drinking.
There is a moral to this story.
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Post by: 50s on September 01, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Quote from: Ari on September 01, 2013, 09:13:12 AM
I gave up drinking about three years ago, and I've probably bought less posters in those years than I would in a month when I was drinking.
There is a moral to this story.


less posters = more women



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Post by: Ari on September 01, 2013, 09:39:04 AM
Bigger poster= bigger.... Ah forget it.

;)
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Post by: CSM on September 01, 2013, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: 50s on September 01, 2013, 09:31:17 AM

less posters = more women





Also less hangovers but somehow more headaches!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 01, 2013, 02:44:16 PM
Well, I'm out of the game in today's EMP auctions.  The "risque" LA Confidential version has reached $150, so I'll just live with my trimmed copy.  The "hooded" LA confidential has reached $1,150, so looks like I did well by getting mine for "just" $750.
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Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
How about that This Gun For Hire reissue one-sheet, Mel?
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Post by: CSM on September 01, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 01, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
How about that This Gun For Hire reissue one-sheet, Mel?

Did you consign away your copy already!?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 01, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
Nope, that's a keeper.  Not planning on consigning any older stuff.
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Post by: guest4185 on September 07, 2013, 09:24:34 PM
The Creature from the Black Lagoon daybill is up to $3200 on Bruce's auction. Last time I was the losing bidder on one in what seemed to be better condition at $1400.
The orange Mad Max is interesting too at $2800 when there was a buy-it-now on eBay from a well known MM collector for substantially less than that.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3089537
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Post by: Bruce on September 07, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
Make that $3,300!
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Post by: 50s on September 07, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
Movieman put a bid in at $3100, nearly double what the auction was at, presumably thinking that was more than enough, now he or she needed to put in another bid probably much higher. Why bid back and forth against each other driving up the price... bid/reveal nearest the end as possible leaving less time/people around, otherwise Bruce heads quickly toward being the $60million dollar man and you end up eating baked beans, like Mel.

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Post by: CSM on September 07, 2013, 10:27:41 PM
Ridiculous.
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Post by: Matt on September 07, 2013, 10:59:36 PM
WTF $3,700 and Mummy's Tomb $3,000
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Post by: Matt on September 07, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
Quote from: Rick on September 07, 2013, 09:24:34 PM

The orange Mad Max is interesting too at $2800 when there was a buy-it-now on eBay from a well known MM collector for substantially less than that.

Past tense now Rick.
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Post by: guest4185 on September 08, 2013, 04:17:21 AM
Mad prices...except for the consignor and Bruce
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Post by: Matt on September 08, 2013, 04:24:41 AM
Quote from: Rick on September 08, 2013, 04:17:21 AM
Mad prices...except for the consignor and Bruce

Yup!!!
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Post by: guest4251 on September 08, 2013, 05:14:37 AM
I think The Creature is coming to Canada. :o

Dario.
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Post by: Charlie on September 08, 2013, 10:33:21 AM
Quote from: Matt on September 07, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
Past tense now Rick.

dammit!
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Post by: Bruce on September 08, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
A HEAP o' bidding wars going on at eMoviePoster.com, but then 99% of you already knew that!
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Post by: wonka on September 08, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 08, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
A HEAP o' bidding wars going on at eMoviePoster.com, but then 99% of you already knew that!

Advertising to the 1%, I like it!

 :)
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Post by: Bruce on September 08, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
For those of you who thought $2800 was WAY too much for this poster, TWO bidders have bid over $3100!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA130901/550/australian_1sh_mad_max_JC08609_L.jpg)
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Post by: guest4251 on September 08, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
Some amazing results achieved at Bruce's eMovieposter.com

And yes! Creature and Mummy's tomb will reside in Vancouver.

It's been a lot of fun watching these auctions.

Best,
dario. 
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Post by: Zorba on September 08, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
Les grande orange

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dzmujfV-cYs/TWBNMByQHmI/AAAAAAAAC7Q/F8YwgPqhipg/s1600/Rusty%2BStaub%2B70s.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on September 08, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: vintagemovieart on September 08, 2013, 07:37:52 PM

And yes! Creature and Mummy's tomb will reside in Vancouver.



Interesting...who is this Canadian daybill collector that I don't know about (or have forgotten about geographically)

Or do you mean temporary residence at Chez Casadei for restoration??
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Post by: guest4251 on September 09, 2013, 01:44:40 AM
Hi Chris,

Just a local friend. Someone who's not active on the forums.

We've spoken tonight, very celebratory mood and we are going to clean some of the posters up.

So on my end I am excited to get a close look at CFTBL and MT.

Best,
dario

PS: Thank you for very kind comments in the other tread, very much appreciated!
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Post by: CSM on September 09, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: vintagemovieart on September 09, 2013, 01:44:40 AM
Hi Chris,

Just a local friend. Someone who's not active on the forums.

We've spoken tonight, very celebratory mood and we are going to clean some of the posters up.

So on my end I am excited to get a close look at CFTBL and MT.

Best,
dario

PS: Thank you for very kind comments in the other tread, very much appreciated!

Awesome Dario.  Hopefully your friend will let you post some pics??  :)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
A rare, German advance poster from 1919 for The Cabinet of Dr Caligari is being offered on ebay. It may be an only one known copy to exist or surface, up to this point.   bed1

The artists are Erich Stahl and Otto Arpke, as marked on the lower left of the poster.

With a nice BIN price tag of $200,000.00 (No best offer option is available, at least on the listing).  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400572875466&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CALIGARI_zpsd75a98f4.jpg)







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Post by: Starling on September 14, 2013, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
A rare, German advance poster from 1919 for The Cabinet of Dr Caligari is being offered on ebay. It may be an only one known copy to exist or surface, up to this point.   bed1

The artists are Erich Stahl and Otto Arpke, as marked on the lower left of the poster.

With a nice BIN price tag of $200,000.00 (No best offer option is available, at least on the listing).  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400572875466&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CALIGARI_zpsd75a98f4.jpg)




Wonderful wonderful piece Jeff!  Very evocative of the film! Ahhh to dream:-)



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Post by: rdavey26 on September 14, 2013, 02:22:51 PM
+1 Jeff. That is a very exquisite piece. Love to have it in my collection but for that price I think I would rather buy a house out right lol. We all can only dream of having a piece like that in our collections.
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Post by: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 02:28:39 PM
I think this is one of those that could truly be called a "unicorn."

Beautiful and evocative is right, Brian.

And yeah, Randy.. for that price, it is one most of us can dream about.  ;D

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Post by: Louie D. on September 14, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 01:04:52 PM

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CALIGARI_zpsd75a98f4.jpg)


BEAUTIFUL piece! I believe MoMA may have the same one or something quite similar.
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 14, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
Yowza!  I've seen that image before... Don't think it's the only one (unless the images were of this particular copy).  Regardless, great stuff and probably a "fair" price all things considered.
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Post by: Mirosae on September 14, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
That's an incredible poster Jeff, shame is £2 quid over my budget..so i am out, bye bye from me ;D

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tonterias/tumblr_m4zc0hMyHr1rwcc6bo1_400_zps1bcd5c1e.gif)
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Post by: Silhouette on September 14, 2013, 04:20:46 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on September 14, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
That's an incredible poster Jeff, shame is £2 quid over my budget..so i am out, bye bye from me ;D

And in case you hadn't noticed it's FREE shipping if you live in the USA but apparently the owner feels that the cost of paying for shipping overseas is really going to cut into his profit...so as they say on Dragon's Den: "I'm out"
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Post by: CSM on September 14, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on September 14, 2013, 04:20:46 PM
And in case you hadn't noticed it's FREE shipping if you live in the USA but apparently the owner feels that the cost of paying for shipping overseas is really going to cut into his profit...so as they say on Dragon's Den: "I'm out"

Indeed.  Amazing poster but $3,000 shipping to Canada!?   Unless what the seller is implying is that I sure as hell better get a plane ticket to pick it up
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Post by: Mirosae on September 14, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
I just fell in love..I normally don't go for the hairy type  ;), but I think I could do an exception with this one..mama... this is Posterlupuscious..  In HA this NOV..

The Wolf Man (International Pictures, 1949). First Post-War Release Italian 4 - Foglio (55" X 78").

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/Lupo_zps791641a7.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on September 14, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
I just fell in love..I normally don't go for the hairy type  ;), but I think I could do an exception with this one..mama... this is Posterlupuscious..  In HA this NOV..

The Wolf Man (International Pictures, 1949). First Post-War Release Italian 4 - Foglio (55" X 78").

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/Lupo_zps791641a7.jpg)

I have loved this poster, too, Rosa, since the first time i came across it a few years ago. Beautiful and powerful imagery all in one. Would love to find one of these, too, some day!  bed1


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Post by: CSM on September 14, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
That's very nice.  All it needs is a little Lugosi cameo
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Post by: brude on September 14, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
True piece of history.
Too bad I don't have any disposable income at the moment....  eyeroll
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 19, 2013, 07:59:00 PM
This came out of the blue - VF unrestored She-Monster, already picked up 55 watchers:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/She_zpsa327bf17.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/She_zpsa327bf17.jpg.html)
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Post by: CSM on September 19, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
HA's Sunday Night auctions are weird lots.  Usually one or two 'show' pieces and then a bunch of stuff in poorer condition (and not good enough for their Signature auctions).

If I had this I would not be consigning it to a Sunday night auction that's for sure...
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Post by: Silhouette on September 20, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Queue Bruce...

 pcorn
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Post by: guest8 on September 20, 2013, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on September 20, 2013, 03:11:34 AM
Queue Bruce...

 pcorn

Bruce could have quadrupled that in his December auction I'm sure of it .. but now we'll never know. :P
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Post by: Bruce on September 20, 2013, 11:43:56 AM
It IS barely possible I might have that same poster (another example, of course)!
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Post by: ddilts399 on September 20, 2013, 12:34:22 PM
I just put it over 1000 if that makes people feel better about where it was sitting price wise.
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Post by: guest8 on September 20, 2013, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on September 20, 2013, 12:34:22 PM
I just put it over 1000 if that makes people feel better about where it was sitting price wise.

If Bruce had it on his site youd have pushed it past 2,000! ;)
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Post by: ddilts399 on September 20, 2013, 02:05:14 PM
That poster has appreciated quite a bit over the past 7-10 years or so, I would like to own it, but I am not going to spend 1500-2000 on it. Imagine this one will still finish close or over 2000 due to the condition it is in.

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Post by: erik1925 on September 25, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
Possibly a flip of the same copy that sold at HA not too long ago?

BIN of $1200.00 OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TARZAN-THE-APE-MAN-MGM-1932-ORIGINAL-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-/190913098384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c734eb290

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TARZAN-THE-APE-MAN-MGM-1932-ORIGINAL-ONE-SHEET-MOVIE-POSTER-/00/s/Njc2WDQ1MA==/z/AgIAAOxy4XNSQf05/$T2eC16VHJHQFFheP8g8DBSQf04zYkw~~60_3.JPG)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on September 27, 2013, 03:22:56 AM
Well Mad Love is sitting over 5 grand.....Bulgaria is a nice place to find lobby cards!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAD-LOVE-Original-1935-Lobby-Card-MGM-Peter-Lorre-Frances-Drake-Colin-Clive-2-/360744780764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fe1083dc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAD-LOVE-Original-1935-Lobby-Card-MGM-Peter-Lorre-Frances-Drake-Colin-Clive-2-/360744780764?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fe1083dc)
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Post by: CSM on September 27, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
That's quite a find!
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2013, 01:17:39 PM
A great card, for sure, but has it faded at all? The skin tones have that washed out blue-ish cast that sometimes happens from too much light exposure.

Or were they printed this way initially? I see the yellow highlights in the guy's hair still look rather vivid, so wasn't totally sure.

 ;)
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Post by: CSM on September 27, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
A lot of 20s/30s lobbies have that washed out look - hard to say if it's fading on this one (in doing a comparison just make sure you don't reference HA's images! ;) )



But in this case HA is off the hook as doesn't appear have ever auctioned this lobby.
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2013, 01:45:05 PM
I know many can have that "look" as a matter of how they were printed. Just wasnt 100% sure in this case. My gut, tho, makes me think it's grown "blue" over time.  :'(

Thanks, tho, Chris.

 ;)

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Post by: Bruce on September 27, 2013, 02:01:53 PM
I would bet anything it is faded. And I bet it likely will no longer be when it shows back up at auction!
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on September 27, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
I have a feeling you are right Bruce...here is an example of another card from this Bulgaria "find" ...compare it to the exact same Topper card you had last week ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-TOPPER-ORIGINAL-LOBBY-CARD-MGM-CONSTANCE-BENNETT-CARY-GRANT-/390662817234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af55185d2&nma=true&si=ISdB0AAEOUDpffLwRehCp3GsnTQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-TOPPER-ORIGINAL-LOBBY-CARD-MGM-CONSTANCE-BENNETT-CARY-GRANT-/390662817234?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af55185d2&nma=true&si=ISdB0AAEOUDpffLwRehCp3GsnTQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
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Post by: crowzilla on September 27, 2013, 09:50:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 27, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
But in this case HA is off the hook as doesn't appear have ever auctioned this lobby.

I don't think anyone has ever auctioned these two lobbies before (and I don't think we will see them popping up at another auction anytime soon).

FWIW - the colors are very similar to the only other scene card I have seen from this film (which just happened to be the best card in the set if the pressbook is to be believed).
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Post by: CSM on September 27, 2013, 10:53:08 PM
I guess it's technically post-auction now but nearly $14,000 for #2, and nearly $7,000 for #1 - wow!
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Post by: CSM on September 27, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
Nevermind - I see the post auction post now...
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Post by: erik1925 on September 29, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
A US HS, for the 1933 Sherlock Holmes film, A Study in Scarlett.

BIN of $15,000.00  obo.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16NycFId1BKvNBBSRJUyyDrQ60_57_zpsffa14103.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-STUDY-IN-SCARLET-Sherlock-Holmes-Anna-May-Wong-Conan-Doyle-Orig-Poster-1933-/310757162301?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item485a91fd3d
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
WTF? My guess is there are some horny female collectors out there ;)

(Yeah, this one's mine but I'm not posting to generate more bids. Just kinda astonished.)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-09/Drive.jpg)
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Post by: guest8 on October 01, 2013, 09:24:42 AM
Congrats on the good price there Mel! :)

Maybe some of the old men around here have some hidden (or not so hidden) homo-erotic feelings for Ryan. :P
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Post by: 50s on October 01, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
Yes Mel, you are getting rid of all the posters that will fetch ever more bigger bickies in the years to come and are leaving yourself with just old, folded, not so colorful posters

 ;)

 
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Post by: Neo on October 01, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
It's really no surprise that emovie's auctions do very well for a lot of stuff, for various reasons, but gotta say that's a Pretty darn good price on that one.  thumbup  

Saw this article a few months ago about The Place Beyond the Pines, called "Burning for Gosling."  I don't know (or care) if the guy is being serious about some of the Gosling comments, but IMO parts of the article are pretty funny.  For the record, I'm not "burning for Gosling", or anyone else for that matter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-franco/ryan-gosling-place-beyond-the-pines_b_3014853.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-franco/ryan-gosling-place-beyond-the-pines_b_3014853.html)
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 01, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on October 01, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
For the record, I'm not "burning for Gosling", or anyone else for that matter.

Apparently James Franco is! 
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Well, I'm furloughed right now - no pay, no benefits - so the profit on this poster has been completely wiped out.  Thank you Repubs!
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Post by: 110x75 on October 01, 2013, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Well, I'm furloughed right now - no pay, no benefits - so the profit on this poster has been completely wiped out.  Thank you Repubs!

Watching it at the news right now... Some things up there are demented...
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Post by: stewart boyle on October 01, 2013, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Well, I'm furloughed right now - no pay, no benefits - so the profit on this poster has been completely wiped out.  Thank you Repubs!
With so much time off,you could hang a poster or two around the place...

Stew
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: stewart boyle on October 01, 2013, 01:22:43 PM
With so much time off,you could hang a poster or two around the place...

Stew

Yep, the Halloween posters are going up soon....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 01, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
that Janis 40x60 is a great format for that image Mel
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Post by: eatbrie on October 01, 2013, 03:03:02 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
WTF? My guess is there are some horny female collectors out there ;)

(Yeah, this one's mine but I'm not posting to generate more bids. Just kinda astonished.)

I don't get it either.  I own about 60% of the posters Bruce put up for sale, and most of them are already above what I paid.  The top 50 are already twice, if not three times what I paid for mine.  It certainly shows the hobby still has legs, but it's baffling what people will spend on recent gear.  Thank God I started collecting 10 or so years ago.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on October 01, 2013, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Well, I'm furloughed right now - no pay, no benefits - so the profit on this poster has been completely wiped out.  Thank you Repubs!

Well, that sucks Mel.  I hope it doesn't last more than a few days, but with these morons in Congress, who knows.  If only Boehner had the balls to tell all these tea party ignoramus to go to hell.  You know he wants to.  Alas, all these people are more in love with their jobs than the country they represent.

T
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Post by: Charlie on October 01, 2013, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
Well, I'm furloughed right now - no pay, no benefits - so the profit on this poster has been completely wiped out.  Thank you Repubs!

Usually they back pay the time off, so think of it as savings! :)  I agree with T, it sucks!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 01, 2013, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 01, 2013, 03:11:04 PM
If only Boehner had the balls to tell all these tea party ignoramus to go to hell.  You know he wants to.  Alas, all these people are more in love with their jobs than the country they represent.

they are like the dinosaurs.. They'll be extinct in the not distant future
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 01, 2013, 11:37:47 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 01, 2013, 04:37:14 PM
Usually they back pay the time off, so think of it as savings! :)  I agree with T, it sucks!

Not this time.  Nobody thinks they're going to pay this time around.  Rightly or wrongly, the Repubs think federal civil servants are overpaid and overprivileged.  Now to be fair some ARE overpaid, especially lower-mid level general administrative workers (human resources, EEO specialist, secretaries), compared to the private sector.  Some (like moi) are underpaid compared to the private sector. In the end the best people will leave for the private sector. (One of the attorneys in my division just took a job with Microsoft, instantly doubling his salary.)
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Post by: guest8 on October 02, 2013, 07:54:24 AM
Sucks to hear good people like yourself are being punished by the greed of the fat cats in Washington. I assume you stay in your position because you like the work you do and feel it makes a difference. Even if you don't want go private sector, as you put it. You could always work at a non-profit. I work for a non-profit, I came over from a for profit company and was worried I would have to make sacrifices with fewer pay increases. But after being with the company for just under 10 months now they were so happy with me and how I do my job that they gave me a 13% pay increase.

I was really under-appreciated in my last position. I was stuck in one of those jobs that I was too good at and they didn't want to move me from that position so they never promoted me. Bottom line is, even if you really like your job, if you feel like you aren't appreciated (financially or however) then there are always other jobs out there that can be as fulfilling or just flat out pays more if that's what you're looking for.

Either way, it sucks about bad things happening to good people. I hope everything works out for ya! :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 03, 2013, 09:03:05 AM
Ok, Emovie peoplez, STOP BIDDING ON THIS!  Are y'all nuts? Spend your money on somethin' else...

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/Drive2.jpg)
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Post by: paul waines on October 03, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
I say we all bid it up, get Mel some funds...  ;D
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Post by: guest8 on October 03, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
Quote from: paul waines on October 03, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
I say we all bid it up, get Mel some funds...  ;D

just as long as I'm not the last bidder Im in! :)
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Post by: paul waines on October 03, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
That's the fun part Fallen, it's like Russian Roulette with a poster... :D
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Post by: jayn_j on October 03, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 03, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
I say we all bid it up, get Mel some funds...  ;D

If I consign Bruce my Ishtar, can I get some funds too? ;D
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Post by: Charlie on October 03, 2013, 04:51:56 PM
Funny thing is there was one on eBay for $150 right after Mel posted... I would laugh, but one time I bought a Tinkerbell poster from Bruce for $40 eyeroll (love of one's child seems to hinder decision making) and I later (right after I bid) found it on the eBay for $15 shipped... Then prayed the other bidder would out bid me - but no...  hitself
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Post by: Bruce on October 03, 2013, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 03, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
That's the fun part Fallen, it's like Russian Roulette with a poster... :D

It REALLY is in our auctions, because there is no retracting bids, or weaseling out after the sale. If someone plays a game and tries to "run someone up" and then doesn't pay, then we ban that bidder for life (and we mean the person, not the ID, like it is on eBay).

We have a lot of people who walk away from high bids, who later try to sneak back on, but we believe in the "fool me once, fool me twice" maxim, and it is once and our at our site. That MAY result in some lowered sale prices, but it also is why we collect from 99+% of our buyers, unlike every other site, where the same items return over and over.
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Post by: CSM on October 03, 2013, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 03, 2013, 06:53:59 PM
We have a lot of people who walk away from high bids

What do you do in these situations Bruce?  Do you offer it to the under bidder or does it get reauctioned later on?  Seems unfair to the under bidder but I guess it's their decision to buy or not if offered...
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Post by: Bruce on October 03, 2013, 10:07:16 PM
I used to buy a lot on eBay and an awful lot I was offered the item I just lost for the underbidder price, and I came to think of them as "You were a giant sucker emails" and I almost always said "No thanks". Of course, sometimes that person who outbid me was a shill, and then I would have been stupid to pay the underbidder price, because there was no REAL high bidder.

We tried offering items at one bid over where the third bidder had bid for a while, but it resulted in few sales, so we quit it, and now we just re-auction the item, and strangely, a fair amount of time it goes for even MORE the next time (although sometimes it goes for much less).

1% of bad bidders doesn't sound like much, but when you auction 110,000 items a year, 1% is 1,100 items, and yes, we re-auction that many. And 1% of four million dollars is $40,000, so they do add up to a lot of money.

But it VERY rare that the same person gets us twice.
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Post by: Charlie on October 03, 2013, 10:22:59 PM
You've got some rough gems coming up Tuesday Bruce...  I might have to buy something!
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Post by: CSM on October 03, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Wow...and it sucks big time for everyone involved - the legitimate underbidders, eMovie and the consignor who all lost out because of a fraud!
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Post by: Mirosae on October 05, 2013, 03:38:27 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 03, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Wow...and it sucks big time for everyone involved - the legitimate underbidders, eMovie and the consignor who all lost out because of a fraud!

what he says...
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Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 03, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Wow...and it sucks big time for everyone involved - the legitimate underbidders, eMovie and the consignor who all lost out because of a fraud!

I so hate to tell a consignor that the result he thought he got did not happen. It is like a surgeon going to the next of kin and telling them the patient didn't make it. So when the amount involved is fairly low, and I doubt I will lose much I go ahead and pay the consignor and then when it is re-auctioned I take the loss myself.

This is one of the main reasons consignors tell us they are switching to us from consigning to other auctions (aside from getting more money). Not only are some high results cancelled with no explanation, but the "sale" goes up on that auction's website and stays there, even though that result never happened.
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Post by: crowzilla on October 05, 2013, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 05, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
Not only are some high results cancelled with no explanation, but the "sale" goes up on that auction's website and stays there, even though that result never happened.

For years now, you have repeated this ad nauseam yet have never offered even a single example.
Do you actually have any examples of this happening that you can point to or is it just part of your usual rhetoric?

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Post by: crowzilla on October 07, 2013, 08:28:22 PM
(http://crankeffect.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/crickets.jpg)
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 08, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 05, 2013, 01:04:35 PM
For years now, you have repeated this ad nauseam yet have never offered even a single example.
Do you actually have any examples of this happening that you can point to or is it just part of your usual rhetoric?

I must say it would very silly of ANYONE to provide a definitive example as it would potentially land you in a lot of trouble.
I'm not taking sides, but Bruce is right.
It happens ALL the time.
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Post by: guest8 on October 08, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 08, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
I'm not taking sides, but Bruce is right.

I couldn't help but chuckle at that statement :)
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Post by: Silhouette on October 08, 2013, 07:39:20 PM
As the owner of the hardest working, smallest vintage movie poster auction site, with the smallest turnover, the smallest number of movie posters auctioned AND the equal smallest number of staff in the world! (currently taking a sabbatical) I can safely say it has never happened to me...

http://www.vintagemovieposters.com.au/auctions

 ;D
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Post by: crowzilla on October 08, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 08, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
I must say it would very silly of ANYONE to provide a definitive example as it would potentially land you in a lot of trouble.
I'm not taking sides, but Bruce is right.
It happens ALL the time.

You mean it could land Heritage in a lot of trouble. Yes, that would be true.
But knowing that Heritage has removed sales that have fallen through and removed items where they refunded money when Haggard fakes were sold, I just don't believe it.

Why exactly do you think it happens "ALL the time"?
it's not Snowden-like top secret information, and in fact I think you would be doing the hobby a big favor by revealing any information you have along these lines.

I could post every week that I think Jaws1975 (or whoever the highbidder of the month is) is a shill bidder for Bruce and that I think he has lots of items in his archive that weren't actually paid for, but just saying it a lot doesn't make it true. (And for the record, I don't believe either of those things, I think Bruce runs honest auctions).

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Post by: Ari on October 08, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 08, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
I must say it would very silly of ANYONE to provide a definitive example as it would potentially land you in a lot of trouble.
I'm not taking sides, but Bruce is right.
It happens ALL the time.

If it's true, then how could it get you in trouble?

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Post by: CSM on October 08, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: Ari on October 08, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
If it's true, then how could it get you in trouble?



And by reading these posts am I in trouble now too?!
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Post by: Ari on October 09, 2013, 01:00:45 AM
Your always in trouble, trouble maker, maybe your the new trouble maker over at NSF, thought we were passed that.
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Post by: 110x75 on October 09, 2013, 07:24:16 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 09, 2013, 01:00:45 AM
Your always in trouble, trouble maker, maybe your the new trouble maker over at NSF, thought we were passed that.

 ;D
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Post by: CSM on October 09, 2013, 11:19:23 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 09, 2013, 01:00:45 AM
Your always in trouble, trouble maker, maybe your the new trouble maker over at NSF, thought we were passed that.

Nah that's definitely Matias' alterego...you can tell because he likes talking to himself ;)
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Post by: crowzilla on October 09, 2013, 11:29:40 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 08, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
If it's true, then how could it get you in trouble?

It's all part of some vast conspiracy controlled by the poster mafia.
That's why the former godfather Bruce can speak about it without providing examples, but no one dares come out in the open.
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Post by: 110x75 on October 09, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 09, 2013, 11:19:23 AM
Nah that's definitely Matias' alterego...you can tell because he likes talking to himself ;)

Ok, now you are in trouble.

(http://www.benitomovieposter.com/catalog/images/movieposter/129978.jpg)
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 09, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 08, 2013, 04:06:23 PM
I couldn't help but chuckle at that statement :)

Maybe I should have rephrased what I said lol.
People who go to auctions and are involved in them know that the statement Bruce made is right, no matter who says it.

Quote from: crowzilla on October 08, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
You mean it could land Heritage in a lot of trouble. Yes, that would be true.
But knowing that Heritage has removed sales that have fallen through and removed items where they refunded money when Haggard fakes were sold, I just don't believe it.

Why exactly do you think it happens "ALL the time"?
it's not Snowden-like top secret information, and in fact I think you would be doing the hobby a big favor by revealing any information you have along these lines.

I could post every week that I think Jaws1975 (or whoever the highbidder of the month is) is a shill bidder for Bruce and that I think he has lots of items in his archive that weren't actually paid for, but just saying it a lot doesn't make it true. (And for the record, I don't believe either of those things, I think Bruce runs honest auctions).

Quote from: Ari on October 08, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
If it's true, then how could it get you in trouble?

The reason it could land an individual or rival company in trouble is because you are effectively calling another a fraud, and this could open up a huge can of worms. We all know it happens, but without clear evidence, you cannot prove a thing.
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 10, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
I had to chuckle at this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Wolverine-2013-double-sided-Hugh-Jackman-Will-Yun-Lee-Tao-Okamoto-/141086696722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d96c2512

Seller's description:

Condition: NEAR-MINT , missing material in the left corner, see the picture

laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/The-Wolverine-2013-double-sided-Hugh-Jackman-Will-Yun-Lee-Tao-Okamoto-/00/s/MTQwNVg5NjU=/z/3ecAAOxysstSVtlY/$(KGrHqNHJEQFJG!3nMyWBSVtlYOB+g~~60_57.JPG)


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Post by: 110x75 on October 10, 2013, 02:44:59 PM
The price is $135 because the psoter is from the 70s... eyeroll
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Post by: CSM on October 10, 2013, 03:43:49 PM
Looks like someone's popcorn wasn't very filling...
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Post by: wonka on October 10, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
^ a great deal for the Wolverine Ravaged Variant.
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Post by: guest8 on October 10, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 10, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
^ a great deal for the Wolverine Ravaged Variant.

OMG man!! You had me scrollin' up like a mad man! I wanted to see what the "ravaged variant" was !!! :)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 10, 2013, 04:30:05 PM
Looks like they handle stuff with rough hands, over there in Galati, Romania.  :P

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Post by: jayn_j on October 10, 2013, 04:51:38 PM
Hey, Romania is a very progressive country.  Apparently they had the web back in the 70s, while the rest of the world had to wait 20 years :)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 10, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on October 10, 2013, 04:51:38 PM
Hey, Romania is a very progressive country.  Apparently they had the web back in the 70s, while the rest of the world had to wait 20 years :)

Progressive or not, that poster was manhandled, with a nice chunk torn off... yet the seller still calls it "near mint."

That's progressive alright.  ;D
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Post by: Zorba on October 11, 2013, 09:11:40 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 10, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
^ a great deal for the Wolverine Ravaged Variant.

Well done  clap  ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on October 11, 2013, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 10, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
I had to chuckle at this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Wolverine-2013-double-sided-Hugh-Jackman-Will-Yun-Lee-Tao-Okamoto-/141086696722?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d96c2512


Wow, thanks for that, Matt.  I just added the seller to my long list of people to never buy from.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 09, 2013, 01:15:05 PM
Maybe I should have rephrased what I said lol.
People who go to auctions and are involved in them know that the statement Bruce made is right, no matter who says it.

The reason it could land an individual or rival company in trouble is because you are effectively calling another a fraud, and this could open up a huge can of worms. We all know it happens, but without clear evidence, you cannot prove a thing.

yeah, insinuating someone is a fraud is okay, even if you do it for years and never provide a single iota of evidence and because you never point to teh evidence, youcan't be blamed for anything because you didn't say anything other than insinuating someone is a crook.. is that right???

here's a question: do you really believe that garbage? How would you feel about your neighbor accusing you of crime? We already know what you think of Mel.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on October 11, 2013, 11:22:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2013, 11:16:21 PM


How would you feel about your neighbor accusing you of crime?



Touché
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Post by: CSM on October 12, 2013, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
How would you feel about your neighbor accusing you of crime?



Well did I commit it?  And did they deserve it?  I need parameters otherwise I get distracted...
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Post by: erik1925 on October 12, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 12, 2013, 12:03:54 AM
Well did I commit it?  And did they deserve it?  I need parameters otherwise I get distracted...

 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 12, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 12, 2013, 12:03:54 AM
Well did I commit it?  And did they deserve it?  I need parameters otherwise I get distracted...

we already know about YOUR past
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 12, 2013, 12:48:57 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 12, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
we already know about YOUR past

Just wait until you experience my future
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Post by: Silhouette on October 12, 2013, 11:48:39 PM
This guy has no clue (ergo clueless) or simply a rip-off merchant:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370912590793&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:AU:1123
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on October 13, 2013, 12:10:40 AM
I've bought from him before, he is I believe selling for someone else, he might be faking it but I think he has no idea, pricing is all over the shop.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 14, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
This "This Gun For Hire" came out of nowhere - already picked up 24 watchers.  A fixer-upper for sure....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/ThisGun2_zps4d309804.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/ThisGun2_zps4d309804.jpg.html)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/ThisGun1_zps7ef31388.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/ThisGun1_zps7ef31388.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 15, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2013, 11:16:21 PM
yeah, insinuating someone is a fraud is okay, even if you do it for years and never provide a single iota of evidence and because you never point to teh evidence, youcan't be blamed for anything because you didn't say anything other than insinuating someone is a crook.. is that right???

here's a question: do you really believe that garbage? How would you feel about your neighbor accusing you of crime? We already know what you think of Mel.

What are you getting at here, Rich?
All I'm saying is that people know it goes on.
It happens in many auctions; car auctions, property auctions, everything.

Whatever your gripe is with Bruce is not my concern; I'm just stating the facts about the situation in hand.

It's easy for people to say this and that about others, but without actually naming the person or company directly it would be very, very difficult for the person or company on the receiving end to prove the wrongdoing is directed to them.

Of course, I would never condone false claims against another.

The crap with Mel - why are you bringing that up?
He actually called me a fraud directly and said a lot of other FALSE things about me with all the personal attacks etc.
The difference between that and what we are talking about is vast. I have clear evidence of what Mel said (despite him deleting certain posts on another forum and despite the forum owner deleting the thread altogether due to its defamatory nature). As far as I am aware, Bruce has not named anyone or even linked to anyone - if I am wrong, please correct me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 15, 2013, 12:46:05 PM
Mel you fail to mention it's listed in the Reproduction listings (or was...)

And what's with sellers blatantly stating they won't accept a "buy it now" offer, only to sell at a "buy it now" offer to someone else when they told the first person they wouldn't listen to offers?   ;D  Seriously some people have no concept of maximizing their potential return on goods...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 15, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
To Catch A Thief; US 6 sheet  Nice!!  clap

$5500.00 obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16dzQE9s3stYbcBRm97mwQ60_57_zps5e35453f.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171044709109?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2013, 02:26:52 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 15, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
Of course, I would never condone false claims against another.

this is exactly the problem Adam.. person who accuses accuses accuses Heritage.. but NEVER posts an example of what they accuse Heritage of.

it's wrong.. period.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 15, 2013, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 15, 2013, 12:46:05 PM
Mel you fail to mention it's listed in the Reproduction listings (or was...)

And what's with sellers blatantly stating they won't accept a "buy it now" offer, only to sell at a "buy it now" offer to someone else when they told the first person they wouldn't listen to offers?   ;D  Seriously some people have no concept of maximizing their potential return on goods...

Chris,

It's still listed in the Repro section.
And the current high bidder is listed as "private."

I really like this stamp on the back of it, too:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqVk8FJBk03D63BSWf0yke60_57_zps24f868a2.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on October 15, 2013, 02:50:12 PM
I wonder if a former owner was worried about the "This is the property of" disclaimer and blacked out Paramount?  :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 15, 2013, 03:48:50 PM
I found it on Collectors Weekly - most watched:

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/posters-and-prints/movie/auctions?sort=most-watched

It appears to be original.  Fixed up and LB'd, it would be worth at least $15,000.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on October 15, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
I don't think I've seen that site before Mel - but it shows another cool and damaged poster that is up this week:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INVASION-OF-THE-BODY-SNATCHERS-Style-B-h-s-original-vintage-movie-poster-/00/s/MTI2OVgxNjAw/z/2yMAAOxydl5SJw8a/$T2eC16dHJHwFG2QFNwEpBSJw8ZhGW!~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321228070569
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2013, 08:57:25 PM
this is not an expensive item, but I am certain there are members here who are interested, though I may not know who you all are

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRUCE-LEE-THE-BIG-BOSS-Hong-Kong-Movie-Booklet-1971-/400586040014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d44c9e2ce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 16, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 15, 2013, 02:26:52 PM
this is exactly the problem Adam.. person who accuses accuses accuses Heritage.. but NEVER posts an example of what they accuse Heritage of.

it's wrong.. period.

Yeah, you're right, Rich.
I've taken the time to go through past posts (got some spare time) and I was a little surprised to see the amount directed to Heritage.
I agree, it is wrong. And Bruce probably got carried away with it as he, from what I can tell, sees Heritage as his major competitor (nothing against you at all, just going from the posts Bruce has made).

Had this place had some sort of moderation, this would not have happened.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on October 16, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
I understand the argument, but not keen on moderation as it could easily move on to censorship. We are all adults. We should be guided by common sense and courtesy, not by censorship. Let's agree to our right to disagree.

 :-\
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 16, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
Yeah, you're right, Rich.
I've taken the time to go through past posts (got some spare time) and I was a little surprised to see the amount directed to Heritage.
I agree, it is wrong. And Bruce probably got carried away with it as he, from what I can tell, sees Heritage as his major competitor (nothing against you at all, just going from the posts Bruce has made).

Had this place had some sort of moderation, this would not have happened.

Usually, repetitive commentary from one directed to another would have produced a few of this emoticon along the way --- deadhorse

To me, it's not about moderating so much as it is about one deciding how many times one needs to say (suggest or allude) the same thing over and over. Like anything, it can get tedious and uninteresting after a while.


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Post by: skyjackers on October 16, 2013, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 16, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
I understand the argument, but not keen on moderation as it could easily move on to censorship. We are all adults. We should be guided by common sense and courtesy, not by censorship. Let's agree to our right to disagree.

 :-\

Exactly. And anyway, who will moderate the moderators?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on October 16, 2013, 01:06:44 PM
Exactly. And anyway, who will moderate the moderators?

Ted.

 ;D
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Post by: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:12:01 PM
Teds all but bailed on us.... :'(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2013, 01:25:15 PM
He ever watches from On High. 

 ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
Yes, he likes the view from the Empire State Building...   ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on October 16, 2013, 01:57:20 PM
Bailed is a bit harsh,,maybe Ted has other priorities..dunno.
Additional moderators is something Admin might consider?

Stew
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Post by: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
Said in Jest Stew, not Harsh.. ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on October 16, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
Said in Jest Stew, not Harsh.. ;)
Got ya Paul..

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2013, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
Yes, he likes the view from the Empire State Building...   ;D

Ted handling misbehaving APF'ers.. old school style:  ;D

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/kingkong-old_zpscb94c68d.jpg)

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Post by: 110x75 on October 16, 2013, 04:44:23 PM
The ape always come back...
We're waiting for you Kong!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
"Was beauty killed the beast"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
"Was beauty killed the beast"

That's for sure.  ;D

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Annex_-_Wray_Fay_King_Kong_07_zps098cc875.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 16, 2013, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 16, 2013, 12:40:08 PM
I understand the argument, but not keen on moderation as it could easily move on to censorship. We are all adults. We should be guided by common sense and courtesy, not by censorship. Let's agree to our right to disagree.

 :-\

I don't mean full on moderation/censorship.
It is RIGHT in the RIGHT circumstances to moderate, such as the Bruce thing against Heritage and when members personally and professionally attack other members with abuse and lies etc.
Other than that, this forum would get a lot more members for sure.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2013, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: bondposters on October 16, 2013, 05:03:50 PM
It is RIGHT in the RIGHT circumstances to moderate, such as the Bruce thing against Heritage

do you have any idea how many posts on APF, NSF, MoPo, MPF and who-knows-what-other-place would have to be deleted to erase that?

Holiday/Thierry, Andy Neal, Ari, Scott Burns and all the others would spend the rest of their lives trying to root them all out
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 17, 2013, 06:07:41 AM
Lol.
Yeah, I know, but the point is if there was some sort of moderation it wouldn't happen in the first place and we wouldn't have all these silly arguments cluttering up the forums :-)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 17, 2013, 07:39:10 AM
Just let it go Adam, they run the forum how they want. The fact that you are constantly and openly disagreeing with them will not change anything and just gets old after a while and if anything, it makes everyone dig in deeper and stubbornly and possibly rudely tell you to shove off because you've been hounding the same thing over and over in multiple threads. It's time to just let go and just enjoy things for what they are. :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2013, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 17, 2013, 07:39:10 AM
Just let it go Adam, they run the forum how they want. The fact that you are constantly and openly disagreeing with them will not change anything and just gets old after a while and if anything, it makes everyone dig in deeper and stubbornly and possibly rudely tell you to shove off because you've been hounding the same thing over and over in multiple threads. It's time to just let go and just enjoy things for what they are. :)

this goes for all people on all forums.
Ari has said repeatedly he won't change anything either
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: AdamCarterJones on October 17, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
I do enjoy things here; just not all the crap that goes on that could easily be stopped.
All the top forums in the world are moderated for stuff like what we have been discussing.

Anyway, I was simply replying to comments.
Apologies for doing so.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
Adam, when I bought MoviePosterBid in 2006, I considered creating a forum on the site.
then I realized I would have to have very stringent rules  and not only would I have to moderate it, something which I probably wouldn't have time for, but I couldn't be available 24/7 to do so anyway.
I decided against it, just like Jon Warren eventually decided to kill his old site

managing these forums is very difficult. you get lots of people who think free speech means they can say and do anything, many people use lots of innuendo and if you aren't up on things, you may not catch when someone is getting out of line until it gets to a fight. It's alot of work because a certain number of people don't believe rules always apply to them. The Don Quixote garbage some people like to pass off is complete and utter bullshit 98% of the time (or more), moreover there are few penalties that can be levied against anyone.

Moderating these forums is an impossible job and realistically, the people who create these problems should have the courtesy to the forum that they would like pointed at themselves. There are rules believe it or not about where to promote yourself and every thread in every sub-forum is not intended to be someones marketing opportunity and marketing (aside from signature banners which are allowed on the vast majority of forums). Nor are these forums meant to be populated visibly by a small number of people. For the most part for instance, this forum has 20-30 vocal members and hundreds of nonvocal members. It's the same on most forums, as most people are readers, not writers

I do agree however that all members should be easily identifiable by their true identity, especially if they want to post and lob bombs at others. Anonymity is unfair to others, especially when you're a big mouth like the asshole on NSF, whom we all know his identity for other reasons and that all anon attacks should be removed immediately from any forum

This forum was created out of what T&H viewed as too much moderation at MPF. Andy does do a good job. He reels in promo posts in the wrong place (it is my opinion that any post used to promote a persons business that does not otherwise have an educational aspect - asking to join your facebook page where you post trivia should be allowed in discussion forums. Posting how good you are, which is purely a promotional statement, should not.

The problems of course are not just dealers. It's pretty obvious that some non-dealers have and do create trouble here and elsewhere

None the less, T&H never meant to do any moderation here. They expect everyone to watch their P's and Q's and everyone else to live with it. I fully support their moderation scheme here.

By the way, for those that want to say how "dead" MPF is and then use the forum to post, I think you're giving Andy short shrift. No one forces you to post, if you don't like what he's doing, go somewhere else and if you really want to see a dead forum, go to the Serials forum. They haven't had a FS/FA/WTB post since January, their average daily visitation is about 15 people and it is a very heavily moderated forum.. so there may be a lesson there.

none the less, enjoy what you have, not what you dream about
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 17, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
especially when you're a big mouth like the asshole on NSF, whom we all know his identity for other reasons

You mean "offaleaters"? God, I hate that guy...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 19, 2013, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 14, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
This "This Gun For Hire" came out of nowhere - already picked up 24 watchers.  A fixer-upper for sure....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/ThisGun2_zps4d309804.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/ThisGun2_zps4d309804.jpg.html)


Alright, who's gonna flip this today? Expect this to go for around $10K, get fixed up, and reappear shortly on a dealer's site.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 19, 2013, 01:24:12 PM
Why not you Mel since you're obviously following it very closely?   :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 19, 2013, 01:24:59 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 15, 2013, 04:06:30 PM
I don't think I've seen that site before Mel - but it shows another cool and damaged poster that is up this week:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/INVASION-OF-THE-BODY-SNATCHERS-Style-B-h-s-original-vintage-movie-poster-/00/s/MTI2OVgxNjAw/z/2yMAAOxydl5SJw8a/$T2eC16dHJHwFG2QFNwEpBSJw8ZhGW!~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321228070569

This got pulled and relisted as a Buy it Now/Best Offer...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 19, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 19, 2013, 01:24:59 PM
This got pulled and relisted as a Buy it Now/Best Offer...

Along with another grand tacked on -- now $8500.00

 coffee
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Post by: erik1925 on October 19, 2013, 01:33:40 PM
The bottom 2/3 of a US 3sh for Invasion of the Saucer Men.

BIN: $8975.00 / OBO

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqFHJEwFJFtLJbjBST526T060_57_zps30a447d5.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INVASION-OF-THE-SAUCER-MEN-ORIGINAL-3-SHEET-/131019136328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e81595d48
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 19, 2013, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 19, 2013, 01:24:12 PM
Why not you Mel since you're obviously following it very closely?   :D

Yeah, I'll make a half-serious four-figure bid but with 51 watchers it's gonna take a low five to take home the prize. And I would certainly never sell if I did prevail....

Update: Yes, it's already in five-figure territory with five hours to go.  I'm out....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/This%20Gun%20For%20Hire.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 19, 2013, 05:44:17 PM
Another rare Veronica Lake is coming up to bat - Sullivan's Travels one sheet style B:

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotIdNo=70001#Photo

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/SL0.jpeg)

Based on prior sales, should go for high four figures, maybe more:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/SL0a.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 19, 2013, 10:02:34 PM
In time for the Halloween season, once again, courtesy of Benito:

Argentine OS for London After Midnight (1927):   bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1

BIN: $70,000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqRHJEkFI9oBUs5BSV671y360_57_zps2ef4fcbc.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LONDON-AFTER-MIDNIGHT-LON-CHANEY-TOD-BROWNING-1927-MOVIE-POSTER-4015-/360762763117?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ff22e76d
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 19, 2013, 10:18:45 PM
Five $10,000+ bidders:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/TGFH1.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 19, 2013, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 19, 2013, 10:18:45 PM
Five $10,000+ bidders:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/TGFH1.jpg)

80% of them were losers
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Post by: wonka on October 20, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 19, 2013, 10:02:34 PM
In time for the Halloween season, once again, courtesy of Benito:

Argentine OS for London After Midnight (1927):   bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1

BIN: $70,000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqRHJEkFI9oBUs5BSV671y360_57_zps2ef4fcbc.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LONDON-AFTER-MIDNIGHT-LON-CHANEY-TOD-BROWNING-1927-MOVIE-POSTER-4015-/360762763117?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ff22e76d

Saw this very one in person at Cinevent a few years back. It's incredible.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 20, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: wonka on October 20, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
Saw this very one in person at Cinevent a few years back. It's incredible.

Ben, I remember the pics you posted of Benito's magic corner and area, from that Cinevent..  thumbup

Seeing LAM and all the others had to be an amazing site, in person!!

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Post by: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 02:42:41 AM
It must be incredible seeing some of these treasures in person.

I would love to go to Dallas, HA and check all the Ballesters and Martinatis they have for action in Nov. They are huge ..there is a 4 foglio that has me dreaming.... not a Bogart.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 21, 2013, 12:21:06 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 02:42:41 AM
It must be incredible seeing some of these treasures in person.

I would love to go to Dallas, HA and check all the Ballesters and Martinatis they have for action in Nov. They are huge ..there is a 4 foglio that has me dreaming.... not a Bogart.


Shhhh... your secret is safe here; and we wont tell Bogie, either.  ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
...YES, best not to tell Bogie or..ehm.. my Bank.. ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 21, 2013, 02:18:22 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
...YES, best not to tell Bogie or..ehm.. my Bank.. ;)

And sometimes, more important things to buy, methinks...  ;D

Rosa in London   ;)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/shop_zps1bf048da.gif)

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Post by: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Indeed!! ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 21, 2013, 02:29:47 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Indeed!! ;D

Getting ready for some upcoming auctions..  :D


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/dollarss_zps53aef2a6.gif)

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Post by: Mirosae on October 21, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
 :)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 22, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
A cool looking, later German RR for KING KONG (1933), with the more modern looking jets and generic (non Fay Wray looking) damsel in distress.  ;)

BIN: $899.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hHJF8FFptz5WpVBRpCekBQNw60_57_zpse7e07bbd.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141094331174?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Post by: erik1925 on October 22, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
The 1942RR, yes indeed.. but this is one hell of a poster, IMO.  bed1

The Walking Dead (WB, 1936)

BIN: $2500.00 obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Walkingdead42RR_zps2c7a03b2.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170876519947?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Post by: Louie D. on October 22, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 22, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
The 1942RR, yes indeed.. but this is one hell of a poster, IMO.  bed1

The Walking Dead (WB, 1936)

BIN: $2500.00 obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Walkingdead42RR_zps2c7a03b2.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170876519947?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649



The Sally boys have had one of these for sale for years and no where near this price.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 22, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Louie, Was their price higher or lower?




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Post by: Louie D. on October 22, 2013, 06:24:28 PM
Lower, I think $1,200.
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Post by: Bruce on October 22, 2013, 06:56:58 PM
We auctioned three of them:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/WALKING%2520DEAD%2520%2528%252736%2529/type/1sh/archive.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/WALKING%2520DEAD%2520%2528%252736%2529/type/1sh/archive.html)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 23, 2013, 10:48:13 PM
Poor Bela probably wasn't even paid $3,200.00 to make this film  :'(  but the poster can be had for that... or a best offer.

An un-restored, US OS for Invisible Ghost (Monogram, 1941)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/IG_zpsfde0a372.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Invisible-Ghost-1941-Bela-Lugosi-poster-Monogram-pictures-/291001754840?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c10e64d8
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Post by: Starling on October 24, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/bddavis81/italian_2p_earth_vs_the_flying_saucers_MF02120_L_zps6e08106d.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/bddavis81/media/italian_2p_earth_vs_the_flying_saucers_MF02120_L_zps6e08106d.jpg.html)

What a wonderful Ballester Bruce!  Love the art.
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Post by: Mirosae on October 24, 2013, 02:03:19 PM
That's beautiful ...that's Big Ben... :)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
 bed1 bed1
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Post by: crowzilla on October 24, 2013, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 23, 2013, 10:48:13 PM
Poor Bela probably wasn't even paid $3,200.00 to make this film  :'(  but the poster can be had for that... or a best offer.
An un-restored, US OS for Invisible Ghost (Monogram, 1941)

An absolutely beautiful stone litho that is probably a top 5 Lugosi image.
I remember offering two different collectors $6K each for their copy when trying to find one for a client about 7 years ago.
So while I think it is a steal at this price, I guess it is reflective of the overall downward trend in non-top title horror material.
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Post by: CSM on October 24, 2013, 04:24:47 PM
There was an original release Monogram on eBay about a year ago for something like $1,200 or $1,500 - condition was not quite as good but still nice.  It didn't sell and then was never relisted...
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Starling on October 24, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj561/bddavis81/italian_2p_earth_vs_the_flying_saucers_MF02120_L_zps6e08106d.jpg) (http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/bddavis81/media/italian_2p_earth_vs_the_flying_saucers_MF02120_L_zps6e08106d.jpg.html)

What a wonderful Ballester Bruce!  Love the art.

This is a killer. Good eye, B.

 cheers
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Post by: crowzilla on October 24, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 24, 2013, 04:24:47 PM
There was an original release Monogram on eBay about a year ago for something like $1,200 or $1,500 - condition was not quite as good but still nice.  It didn't sell and then was never relisted...

Hard to believe a nice condition Monogram copy couldn't get a bid at $1,500 for such a beautiful stone litho (as opposed to the not as vibrant offset re-release poster).  Even 20 years ago it was a $2,000+ item.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 28, 2013, 02:15:50 PM
A folded and un-restored US OS for the Karloff flicker, Bedlam (RKO, 1946):

Tre' bon.  ;)

BIN: $1350.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqJl4FJY5nFSbEBSb6TibrQ60_57_zps1ec329f7.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121201010962?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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Post by: Undead on October 28, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 23, 2013, 10:48:13 PM
Poor Bela probably wasn't even paid $3,200.00 to make this film  :'(  but the poster can be had for that... or a best offer.

An un-restored, US OS for Invisible Ghost (Monogram, 1941)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/IG_zpsfde0a372.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Invisible-Ghost-1941-Bela-Lugosi-poster-Monogram-pictures-/291001754840?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c10e64d8

Love the image.

Last one HA sold was in 2009 for $507 in FN+ condition.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 28, 2013, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 14, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
A rare, German advance poster from 1919 for The Cabinet of Dr Caligari is being offered on ebay. It may be an only one known copy to exist or surface, up to this point.   bed1

The artists are Erich Stahl and Otto Arpke, as marked on the lower left of the poster.

With a nice BIN price tag of $200,000.00 (No best offer option is available, at least on the listing).  ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400572875466&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CALIGARI_zpsd75a98f4.jpg)



On sale... currently 10% off... now only $180,000.00   ;D


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Post by: CSM on October 28, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Undead on October 28, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
Love the image.

Last one HA sold was in 2009 for $507 in FN+ condition.

That one was the 1949 Astor re-release
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Post by: CSM on October 28, 2013, 11:24:07 PM
So these are becoming less and less 'uncommon' - popping up all the time now (but probably no less desirable).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-poster-1942-Original-Rare-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/111201506803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e42055f3

Wish I had been around to buy it for $8.50...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 28, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 28, 2013, 11:24:07 PM
So these are becoming less and less 'uncommon' - popping up all the time now (but probably no less desirable).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-poster-1942-Original-Rare-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/111201506803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e42055f3

Wish I had been around to buy it for $8.50...

yeah sold off-bay

notice that the top & bottom borders are slightly trimmed
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on October 28, 2013, 11:43:20 PM
Yep:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/TGFH.jpg)
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Post by: Undead on October 29, 2013, 12:19:07 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 28, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
That one was the 1949 Astor re-release

You are correct, that will teach me to not read the title/description or look closely or....
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Post by: 110x75 on October 29, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 28, 2013, 11:24:07 PM

Wish I had been around to buy it for $8.50...

But the text in the bottom says it can't be traded, sold, given away or sub-leased...  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 29, 2013, 01:30:52 AM
Quote from: Undead on October 29, 2013, 12:19:07 AM
You are correct, that will teach me to not read the title/description or look closely or....


coffee


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Post by: Starling on October 29, 2013, 03:18:50 AM
The 8.50 price written on the poster KILLS me!  Aaaaargh!  Where are you, dear time machine!!  :'(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 29, 2013, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on October 29, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
But the text in the bottom says it can't be traded, sold, given away or sub-leased...  ;D

There's an idea - sub-leasing out posters for the bare walls of the world!
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Post by: Louie D. on October 29, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
Quote from: Starling on October 29, 2013, 03:18:50 AM
The 8.50 price written on the poster KILLS me!  Aaaaargh!  Where are you, dear time machine!!  :'(

I know of an old time collector who's collection was about 85% of stuff he was given free by a local theater in the 50's. They were going to trash all the old paper materials in their basement when this collector found out about it and asked the manager of the theater if he could haul the stuff away. The manager gave him one day and he got just about everything out of there. Photos, posters, lobbies, you name it.
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Post by: Harry Caul on October 29, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
Yes, from what I've heard the fire inspectors have historically been the poster collector's worst enemy.  They went around from theater to theater starting in the 50s and told them to clear out those store room death-traps -- stacked floor to ceiling with posters! 
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Post by: Louie D. on October 29, 2013, 11:35:59 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 29, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
Yes, from what I've heard the fire inspectors have historically been the poster collector's worst enemy.  They went around from theater to theater starting in the 50s and told them to clear out those store room death-traps -- stacked floor to ceiling with posters! 

That's exactly what happened in this instance.
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Post by: Starling on October 29, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on October 29, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
I know of an old time collector who's collection was about 85% of stuff he was given free by a local theater in the 50's. They were going to trash all the old paper materials in their basement when this collector found out about it and asked the manager of the theater if he could haul the stuff away. The manager gave him one day and he got just about everything out of there. Photos, posters, lobbies, you name it.

Well, if this guy ever needs me to move all this paper out of his place and into my own, I have a strong back and an iron will.
Let him know!
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Post by: crowzilla on October 29, 2013, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 28, 2013, 10:10:13 PM
That one was the 1949 Astor re-release

Yep.
And although the image on both posters is the same, once you see the incredible colors on the stone litho from the original release, there is just no way that the offset printing of the re-release will do.
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Post by: Silhouette on October 29, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Awesome stuff

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotNo=83292&ctrack=1705222&type=collectora-img1-poster-news-tem102913#Photo
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Post by: CSM on October 29, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on October 29, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Awesome stuff

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotNo=83292&ctrack=1705222&type=collectora-img1-poster-news-tem102913#Photo

And controversial!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2013, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 29, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
And controversial!

Chris, you have a problem when you start listening to anonymous morons on a forum whose main intent is only to taint others with hearsay and conjecture and even more so someone who is known (because we all know who he is) to be no more than a complete and utter ahole in real life with a bone to pick on every dealer there is because almost none of us will do business with him. You should read and pay attention to what Sean posted, and not the jackass who is only making trouble
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 29, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2013, 04:58:05 PM
Chris, you have a problem when you start listening to anonymous morons on a forum whose main intent is only to taint others with hearsay and conjecture and even more so someone who is known (because we all know who he is) to be no more than a complete and utter ahole in real life with a bone to pick on every dealer there is because almost none of us will do business with him. You should read and pay attention to what Sean posted, and not the jackass who is only making trouble

I assure you I am problem free - my mother had me tested

I standby "controversial" as being an apt word in describing the emotional responses elicited by this poster and discussions surrounding it (regardless of what the ultimate underlying truth of the matter may be)

Case in point = your comment...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 29, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
it would only be controversal if what the anon ahole said was true. Otherwise it becomes unfounded slander, which is what it was intended to be by the ahole who posted it.

I should also add, if it were true, "Don Quixote" would be all over it. He is silent, so it's clearly nothing but distortion or lies
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Post by: brude on October 29, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: paul waines on October 16, 2013, 01:12:01 PM
Teds all but bailed on us.... :'(

Not on your life.
Like Stewie said, "other priorities."
Early a.m. truck-driving route, dealing with left-coast video-game suits, drawing, tending to Halloween at tumblr, wooing the women on my route ( wynk), more drawing, trying to find posters that I owe to members, more concept art work, video conferences, cleaning the cave (and preparing to re-locate it), painting, tracking bigfoot... all sorts of stuff.  There just aren't enough hours in the friggin' day.
Maybe I should resurrect the old Franklin Planner thing...

I miss the forum, but I don't miss the bickering and name-calling.
Sometimes it makes for entertaining reading...but then it gets old...real old.
The only kind of moderation on a free-speech forum that will have any effect must be self-imposed by the members themselves.







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Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
Amidst all this bickering, here is something EVERYONE can agree on; this is one mighty fine poster!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA131022/550/6sh_20000_leagues_under_the_sea_MF02052_L.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3156993 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3156993)

OK, which one of you guys are bidding?

 sm1
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Post by: rdavey26 on October 29, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: brude on October 29, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
Not on your life.
Like Stewie said, "other priorities."
Early a.m. truck-driving route, dealing with left-coast video-game suits, drawing, tending to Halloween at tumblr, wooing the women on my route ( wynk), more drawing, trying to find posters that I owe to members, more concept art work, video conferences, cleaning the cave (and preparing to re-locate it), painting, tracking bigfoot... all sorts of stuff.  There just aren't enough hours in the friggin' day.
Maybe I should resurrect the old Franklin Planner thing...

I miss the forum, but I don't miss the bickering and name-calling.
Sometimes it makes for entertaining reading...but then it gets old...real old.
The only kind of moderation on a free-speech forum that will have any effect must be self-imposed by the members themselves.








Wow you are alive Ted. Good hearing from you.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 29, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
WTF?  I hate you emovieposter...  Nothing like thinking you can pick up a poster for what it last auctioned for and then realizing the other idiot has more 'stupid' money than you.  I have a feeling that the one on eBay sitting at $320 is what is driving this one up... I call it the 'cinemasterpieces effect'. Have at it my Polish friend - I've got contacts in Argentina and one day he'll find one for me at the price I want to pay!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3157698
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 29, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
WTF?  I hate you emovieposter...  Nothing like thinking you can pick up a poster for what it last auctioned for and then realizing the other idiot has more 'stupid' money than you.  I have a feeling that the one on eBay sitting at $320 is what is driving this one up... I call it the 'cinemasterpieces effect'. Have at it my Polish friend - I've got contacts in Argentina and one day he'll find one for me at the price I want to pay!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3157698

Good things come to those who wait!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 29, 2013, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 29, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
at the price I want to pay!

I'll get it even cheaper than that my friend!  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 29, 2013, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on October 29, 2013, 10:28:23 PM
I'll get it even cheaper than that my friend!  ;)

 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 30, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
This one has never been on EMovieposter before !!!??  bed1

(http://snag.gy/5Uyrn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 30, 2013, 10:55:14 AM
This one is pretty rare as well.

(http://snag.gy/3rNJD.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 30, 2013, 11:02:45 AM
Here is a good example of one of Bruces great deals!!!

(http://snag.gy/ryEwb.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 30, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
Is it a great deal when the auction hasn't ended yet?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on October 30, 2013, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 30, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
Is it a great deal when the auction hasn't ended yet?  ;)

haha .. well I know when I bid a dollar on an early auction like that .. Somewhere deep in the back of my mind I expect tog et it for that even if I know it will not happen and then the 1st person to out bid me is a stupid jackass for pushing the price up!! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on October 30, 2013, 12:08:51 PM
Oh the memories...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on October 30, 2013, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 29, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
Good things come to those who wait!

Skeletor : "....and I have waited so very long for this moment !"

A childish rhyme I like : "polakk , tusen takk" , lulz ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 30, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on October 30, 2013, 11:24:38 AM
haha .. well I know when I bid a dollar on an early auction like that .. Somewhere deep in the back of my mind I expect tog et it for that even if I know it will not happen and then the 1st person to out bid me is a stupid jackass for pushing the price up!! :P

I wish it worked that way too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 31, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
Just in time for Halloween   :D

Not a poster but a herald for The Black Cat (1934)

$1200 open bid / BIN: $1585.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqRloFJV2l94fBScOK25w60_57_zps1fcd4d27.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-BLACK-CAT-Herald-KARLOFF-LUGOSI-Classic-Universal-Horror-MONSTER-/161139711211?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2584acdceb
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 31, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
Saw a few of those listed by the seller. Apparently in Colombia, they used english language heralds with a blank space in the back to complete with local info...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 31, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Be careful with heralds! Yesterday i received the third counterfeit herald I have ever seen, all in the last few months.

Different, newer paper that has been artificially aged.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on October 31, 2013, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 31, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Be careful with heralds! Yesterday i received the third counterfeit herald I have ever seen, all in the last few months.

Different, newer paper that has been artificially aged.

Thanks for the info Bruce!

I won't worry much, cause I will never purchase a herald at $1200  ;D, but it's interesting to know someone is counterfeiting smaller pieces of paper.

I assume that if someone made the effort to fake heralds, they must be from high-end titles, right?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on October 31, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
I have seen two from "The Mummy"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on October 31, 2013, 11:41:19 PM
What were the tell tale signs that they were repros?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 01, 2013, 12:09:23 AM
Different, newer paper that has been artificially aged.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on November 01, 2013, 12:20:21 AM
I love people who sell heralds from the 30's for crazy prices like this. Totally unrealistic.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on November 01, 2013, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 31, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
I have seen two from "The Mummy"

I have seen those as well as from Bride of Frankenstein, Frankenstein, and one of the Dracula styles so far.
These are very high-quality reproductions that started making the rounds a little over a year ago.
Fortunately the Black Cat in this auction does not appear to be one, but it is extremely difficult to tell without having them in hand.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 04:35:30 PM
The same seller also is offering these heralds. One for Bride of Frank; the other for The Werewolf Of London:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hHJHkFFluElZPjBSbYJLhrI60_57_zps9f94a198.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hygFIjyUZvL2BSbYZbZ4fg60_57_zps622d8a2c.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 01, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
Obviously haven't seen those in person but on first blush they look authentic to me
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2013, 10:10:45 PM
Yesh!  This is the best daybill ever, only $1,000 so far!  Bargain!!!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3168770

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/Psycho.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 01, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Pretty hard to make Janet Leigh look like a mongloid, but they succeeded.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
Quote from: wonka on November 01, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Pretty hard to make Janet Leigh look like a mongoloid, but they succeeded.

No wonder Anthony Perkins has his hand over his mouth... he doesn't get it, either.

 ;)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 01, 2013, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: wonka on November 01, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Pretty hard to make Janet Leigh look like a mongloid, but they succeeded.

Mongoloid is the word.. I don't think she looks like that, but the artist did give her a nose & boob reduction
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 01, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
Leigh's got that look of a 'deer in the headlights' going on.
Ugh.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 11:02:25 PM
Quote from: brude on November 01, 2013, 11:00:46 PM
Leigh's got that look of a 'deer in the headlights' going on.
Ugh.

And her eyes are uneven...

 :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 01, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Wait, wait...are you guys suggesting daybills sometimes have inferior artwork?! 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 01, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 01, 2013, 10:58:06 PM
Mongoloid is the word.. I don't think she looks like that, but the artist did give her a nose & boob reduction

You need a period (.) at the end of a complete sentence.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on November 01, 2013, 11:24:42 PM
Quote from: wonka on November 01, 2013, 10:54:57 PM
Pretty hard to make Janet Leigh look like a mongloid, but they succeeded.


While every forum has its fair share of resident assholes, which is fine, I would say that Wanker probably scares off some potential members who would really enjoy and benefit this space and hobby in general...which is sad and unfortunate.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 01, 2013, 11:33:04 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on November 01, 2013, 11:24:42 PM

every forum has its fair share of resident assholes

OMG! Loiuse is makiing sense!



Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 01, 2013, 10:10:45 PM
Yesh!  This is the best daybill ever, only $1,000 so far!  Bargain!!!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3168770

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/psycho_daybill_mod.gif)

I like it!


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on November 01, 2013, 11:34:53 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 01, 2013, 11:33:04 PM
Loiuse

Is that all you got cock-knocker??
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
What is the spelling "Loiuse" supposed to mean? Is that code, Steve?

 :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 01, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
What is the spelling "Loiuse" supposed to mean? Is that code, Steve?

 :-*

I always struggle to spell it so I dont bother trying any more

 

Quote from: Louie D. on November 01, 2013, 11:34:53 PM
Is that all you got cock-knocker??

Don't let me interrupt your dinner


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/fingerlickingLouis.jpg)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 01, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
I always struggle to spell it so I dont bother trying any more

 

Don't let me interrupt your dinner


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/fingerlickingLouis.jpg)

 

Extra Crispy, with Asian chilies added to the Colonel's 21 herbs and spices....

 ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 02, 2013, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 01, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Wait, wait...are you guys suggesting daybills sometimes have inferior artwork?! 

Yes.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 02, 2013, 12:37:23 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 01, 2013, 11:44:43 PM
I always struggle to spell it so I dont bother trying any more

 

Don't let me interrupt your dinner


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/fingerlickingLouis.jpg)





Too much rice filler...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on November 02, 2013, 01:31:20 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 01, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Wait, wait...are you guys suggesting daybills sometimes have inferior artwork?! 

They have inferior artwork most of the times, but they are not alone in that poor-drawn hell.

Look at the people in this argentinean one sheet for Phantom of the Opera sold recently at EMP:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/phantom_zpse021cdc8.jpg)

Maybe Bruce didn't add in the description that it was heavily restored. By the spanish lady:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/_62450357_restoredfresco_zpsf534b44c.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 02, 2013, 01:44:57 AM
Quote from: wonka on November 01, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
You need a period (.) at the end of a complete sentence.  :)

sorry.. only girls have a period at the end of a sentence!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 02, 2013, 01:47:17 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 01, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Wait, wait...are you guys suggesting daybills sometimes have inferior artwork?! 

jeez.. do I have to dig up the photo of the daybill artists again?
oh.. isn't that one of them sleeping in Louie's avatar?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 02, 2013, 01:47:59 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on November 02, 2013, 01:31:20 AM
They have inferior artwork most of the times, but they are not alone in that poor-drawn hell.

Look at the people in this argentinean one sheet for Phantom of the Opera sold recently at EMP:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/phantom_zpse021cdc8.jpg)

Maybe Bruce didn't add in the description that it was heavily restored. By the spanish lady:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/_62450357_restoredfresco_zpsf534b44c.jpg)

What year is that Arg PO Opera, Matias? The image is too cropped to know what it is from, in general, right?

And the other... well.. that was some older woman who went crazy with a paint brush in a church... and no one stopped or flogged her.  :P  ;)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 02, 2013, 02:14:34 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on November 02, 2013, 01:31:20 AM
They have inferior artwork most of the times, but they are not alone in that poor-drawn hell.

Look at the people in this argentinean one sheet for Phantom of the Opera sold recently at EMP:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/phantom_zpse021cdc8.jpg)

Maybe Bruce didn't add in the description that it was heavily restored. By the spanish lady:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/_62450357_restoredfresco_zpsf534b44c.jpg)

Perfect correlation
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 02, 2013, 03:14:18 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 02, 2013, 02:14:34 AM
Perfect correlation

No doubt.

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 02, 2013, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on November 02, 2013, 01:31:20 AM

Maybe Bruce didn't add in the description that it was heavily restored. By the spanish lady:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/_62450357_restoredfresco_zpsf534b44c.jpg)

Hey...hey..You.. SHOW some respect  ;).. This is now a piece of ArT''

 :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 03, 2013, 03:11:03 PM
Ok, so can the restored '51 Frankie beat its unrestored 2006 price?

BTW: $6,089 in 2006 is now worth $7,072 in 2013 dollars.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-11/Frankie.jpg)

UPDATE: Sold for $6,268, so it sold for slightly less than in 2006 (considering inflation). 

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-11/Frankie3.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Read the entire full detailed condition descriptions of each (not shown here), and I think it is clear the older one was in better condition, so of course it sold for "more" (which it only did with your inflation adjustment).

I always give hugely detailed condition descriptions on posters like these (just as I did on both of these years apart), and I am always 100% honest in what I write, both so there is no chance of a return, and so I can sleep well at night.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
A question for those of you who actually like Frankenstein (I don't), someone who buys a poster like this, does he/she actually buys it for the art or for the rarity.  Rarity, I get.  Art, I don't.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 03, 2013, 07:38:19 PM
I like the art.  Are the Real-Art re-releases really that rare?

I think it's more a case of the artwork being appealing to many and original release paper being prohibitively expensive.  Seems to me higher those truly rare original release Universal Horrors go the more it bumps up a lot of the later re-releases in turn...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2013, 07:53:03 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 03, 2013, 07:38:19 PM
I like the art.  Are the Real-Art re-releases really that rare?

I think it's more a case of the artwork being appealing to many and original release paper being prohibitively expensive.  Seems to me higher those truly rare original release Universal Horrors go the more it bumps up a lot of the later re-releases in turn...

Realart (one word) paper IS really rare. Think about it. On the first releases, they played in almost every theater in the country (for example, the theater in tiny West Plains had Dracula in 1931). In the late 1940s and early 1950s, a tiny fraction of those theaters showed the re-releases.

A few years ago I had a great collection of high grade Realart cards and many went for astronomical prices, because even the old-timers had never seen some of them even one time!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
Thanks Chris.  I still don't get it.  I find the art hideous.  To each his own, I guess.  I'm more a Bieber kinda guy.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 03, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
 I'm more a Bieber kinda guy.

T

 ;D

(http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/media/justin-bieber-hospital-instagram.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 03, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
A question for those of you who actually like Frankenstein (I don't), someone who buys a poster like this, does he/she actually buys it for the art or for the rarity.  Rarity, I get.  Art, I don't.

T

I love FRANKENSTEIN.
So as a fan of the film, art/rarity wouldn't be a real factor.
I'd be buying it for the title.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
I love Dracula, I love the Werewolf, I love every damn creature except Frankenstein.  There is nothing in the creature that is appealing to me, which is why I will never own anything on the title.  More for others, right?  In any case, since my want list is over 2,000 titles, I don't think I will ever miss not owning it.

And Bieber, Jesus dude, where did you find that picture.  Funny and repulsive at the same time.  ;)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 03, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
That's weird, because Bride of Frankenstein was far and away the best movie of all of them.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 03, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 08:34:15 PM

And Bieber, Jesus dude, where did you find that picture.  Funny and repulsive at the same time.  ;)

T

I'd be more concerned about where Bieber got the Polaroid of you and what he was doing with it in bed!   :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 03, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
Lets be nice. After Oil, beer, William Shatner, Frigid cold air and Rush..... He is Canada's greatest export!  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 03, 2013, 11:28:57 PM
Quote from: brude on November 03, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
I love FRANKENSTEIN.
So as a fan of the film, art/rarity wouldn't be a real factor.
I'd be buying it for the title.

+1

Same here, Ted.

Maybe some of the "baked and crispy" members don't get Frankie....

But many do...LOL  ;D



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 11:32:20 PM
Btw, can you please stop mentioning pot.  Each time you do, I have to run outside to smoke more.  It's a little subliminal.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 03, 2013, 11:35:21 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 11:32:20 PM
Btw, can you please stop mentioning pot.  Each time you do, I have to run outside to smoke more.  It's a little subliminal.

T

Does this help?

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC08553_zps28717364.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
I just pulled out the bong!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7358/10663819905_654a6b6b1c.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 04, 2013, 12:34:50 AM
Always glad to help.  Just don't bogart it next time...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 04, 2013, 01:26:48 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 03, 2013, 11:32:20 PM
Btw, can you please stop mentioning pot.  Each time you do, I have to run outside to smoke more.  It's a little subliminal.

T

Being sublime is an art.

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: stewart boyle on November 04, 2013, 05:44:11 AM
"And I saw his face,Now I`m A Beleiber"..Pass the bong.

Stew
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 04, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
I am a little surprised that these aren't going for more already!!!


(http://snag.gy/3rNJD.jpg)
(http://snag.gy/5Uyrn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 04, 2013, 07:58:52 AM
It doesn't matter where an auction is at with a day to go, or even five minutes. Lots of posters last night went from low to high in the final minutes (but no one had a poster snatched away by a snipe because of our five minute time-extended feature).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on November 04, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 04, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
I am a little surprised that these aren't going for more already!!!


(http://snag.gy/3rNJD.jpg)
(http://snag.gy/5Uyrn.jpg)

You might want to check NOES Quad again. It is more then $110
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 04, 2013, 01:08:50 PM
Quote from: rdavey26 on November 04, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
You might want to check NOES Quad again. It is more then $110

Yeah even at the new high bid it sounds like a deal. Heck the cheapest I can find right now is closer to $700-800+!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 04, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 04, 2013, 07:32:48 AM
I am a little surprised that these aren't going for more already!!!


They will.

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 04, 2013, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 04, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
They will.

 ;D

haha .. PM me your highest bid and I will be sure to bid just under that! ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2013, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 04, 2013, 01:08:50 PM
Yeah even at the new high bid it sounds like a deal. Heck the cheapest I can find right now is closer to $700-800+!

Also remember that some people who want this poster won't bid on it because it's linenbacked.  Hmm, wonder who that could be...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 04, 2013, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2013, 01:39:17 PM
Also remember that some people who want this poster won't bid on it because it's linenbacked.  Hmm, wonder who that could be...

You dont buy any linen pieces?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 04, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2013, 01:39:17 PM
Also remember that some people who want this poster won't bid on it because it's linenbacked.  Hmm, wonder who that could be...

I missed that little detail, too. For something this new (for me), being linen backed would not be me first choice, either. (Although, there were some fold line separations and minor crossfold paper loss, so it was the right way to preserve & conserve this particular copy, imo).  thumbup

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 05, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 04, 2013, 02:02:44 PM
You dont buy any linen pieces?

No, I don't buy linen...  The few times that I have, and I can count them on my fingers, are because I knew that I would never find the posters folded.

I don't buy linen because 1) I want to know very specifically what kind of restoration was done and most of the times sellers lie about them and 2) folded posters are easy to file away while linenbacked posters take way too much room.

I'd much rather buy a poor condition folded poster and have it restored than an already linenbacked poster.  Generally speaking, though, I stay away from poor condition posters ;)  I'd say that 95% of my collection is in very good/near mint condition.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 05, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 05, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
I'd say that 95% of my collection is in very good/near mint condition.

T

Because 95% of your collection hasn't had time to age... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 05, 2013, 06:56:11 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 05, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
Because 95% of your collection hasn't had time to age... ;)

Ouch, that stings.

Probably a little true, though.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 05, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
Personally, I don't think this is too much for this, but what do I know?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA131029/550/british_quad_nightmare_on_elm_street_linen_MF02279_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 05, 2013, 09:28:31 PM
Some of my wife's best work.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 05, 2013, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 05, 2013, 09:28:31 PM
Some of my wife's best work.

Sweet!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on November 05, 2013, 11:38:29 PM
Amazing quad for a great film. The restore job looks spectacular.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 06, 2013, 12:22:44 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 04, 2013, 01:08:50 PM
Yeah even at the new high bid it sounds like a deal. Heck the cheapest I can find right now is closer to $700-800+!

So what do you think of the ending prices?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on November 06, 2013, 02:45:45 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 06, 2013, 12:22:44 AM
So what do you think of the ending prices?
WOW is all I can say. I was amazed to see it end where it did. I figured it would end somewhere around the $500 but not $893
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2013, 08:05:58 AM
Yes, Charlie and his wife do good work and i think it shows in the pieces that were auctioned last night! :) There should be one more coming up in a future auction that iirc caused something of a major headache for them as well. Ill tease it with this clue .. GWTW. :)

As for the prices, I am very happy with them. I was actually a little surprised at the Lost Boys final price.. (without any logical reason) I felt it would go a bit higher. But considering one sold on ebay a few hours earlier for $120 (unback/unrestored) I think everything worked out well enough.

I will take this time to say, that although I don't agree with Bruce a lot on the forums. You cannot argue that his auctions do pull in many great bidders/consigners and before he gets a chance to toot his own horn. It is because of what a great job he and his people do and the level of customer service that they provide to both their consigner and buyers!

Now with that said, I feel like I has to say, that Bruce pushes the boundaries around here too. It's been said before, Bruce is like the pushy used car salesmen of the poster auction world. (Don't ask me when or where, I don't recall. Hell, I may have said it) My advice to Bruce, is to just calm down with the salesmanship, at last around here. We all know who Bruce is and his stellar reputation and posting about it 10x a day in 10 different threads is just going to annoy people.

We already know what kind of amazing results eMovie can provide! So maybe take your own advise and only post eMovie stuff in one thread and let Bruce come out to hang out with the rest of us without his eMovie hat on. If the other dealers don't follow suit, who cares!?? Fighting it out on here isn't helping your case at all and quite frankly could end up hurting you in the long run.

So that's that, my advise take it or not.

Back to the posters!! I really thought this one would be fetching a higher price than this?? I always felt this was a stunning piece.

(http://snag.gy/lbKHL.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 06, 2013, 08:20:10 AM
Thank you for clearly stating your views in a non-childish way.

If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying you would prefer that I be like Heritage, and solely post For Sale listings in the two forums designed for those, and make no other posts.

I can do that.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2013, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 06, 2013, 08:20:10 AM
Thank you for clearly stating your views in a non-childish way.

If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying you would prefer that I be like Heritage, and solely post For Sale listings in the two forums designed for those, and make no other posts.

I can do that.

Not at all!!! I said, to post only eMovie stuff in the dealer section and Be Bruce out here with rest of us ..

Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 06, 2013, 08:05:58 AM
We already know what kind of amazing results eMovie can provide! So maybe take your own advise and only post eMovie stuff in one thread and let Bruce come out to hang out with the rest of us without his eMovie hat on. If the other dealers don't follow suit, who cares!?? Fighting it out on here isn't helping your case at all and quite frankly could end up hurting you in the long run.

This is what I am talking about, it was you who had the idea that dealers should have 1 thread that they post in, but when someone brings that up you make it seem as if we are chastising you and do not want you on the forum which is the complete opposite of what I said. I want "Bruce" to be posting 100x a day .. I just don't want eMovie posting 100x a day in a dozen threads. I respect you (and all the other dealers) for having a successful business in something that we all find enjoyable. I feel I speak for more than a  few of us, if we could turn our hobby of poster collecting into a profitable career I think most of us would jump on that chance and here you are doing it! So I want to hear from "Bruce" and your stories about helping people and doing the right thing. Maybe you dont have to end those stories with a summation about how eMovie is outstanding because of x y z .. We know how and why eMovie is a great business, we don't need the constant reminders. But your knowledge and experience make you a valuable member of the forum, and you are more than just eMovie! Thats what I want, more of Bruce the man and less of eMovie the business.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 06, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
I second fallenangel's remarks.  A year ago, both Bruce and Rich hung out here and contributed to the discussion.  Lately both dealers have been having this pointless feud where they keep seeing who can have the more obnoxious banner ad, who can have the last commercial post, and who is giving the best deal.

Give it a rest.  We buy from and we sell to both of you.  I personally don't come here for the current cage match.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 06, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 06, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
I second fallenangel's remarks.  A year ago, both Bruce and Rich hung out here and contributed to the discussion.  Lately both dealers have been having this pointless feud where they keep seeing who can have the more obnoxious banner ad, who can have the last commercial post, and who is giving the best deal.

Give it a rest.  We buy from and we sell to both of you.  I personally don't come here for the current cage match.

OK. It won't be me to break the peace.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 06, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
I was going to consider making a documentary about the poster dealer feuds. Bet it would be interesting.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 06, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
One last question. What size should banner ads at the bottom be, and what size should the avatar be?

Since I won't be promoting my auctions in any way outside the "For Sale" threads, I WILL use both the avatar and banner spaces to advertize my auctions, so I would like some guidance on what size they are limited to (and then I promise to stick to those limits, and of course, I imagine all other dealers will do the same).

It is great to have clear rules that everyone abides by.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 06, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 06, 2013, 08:05:58 AM

Back to the posters!! I really thought this one would be fetching a higher price than this?? I always felt this was a stunning piece.

(http://snag.gy/lbKHL.jpg)



Did you consign this to Bruce?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2013, 10:51:19 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 06, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Did you consign this to Bruce?

Yup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 06, 2013, 11:25:57 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 06, 2013, 10:51:19 AM
Yup

Oh I see what you're up to now ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2013, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 06, 2013, 11:25:57 AM
Oh I see what you're up to now ;)

Whoo ?? ME!!? :) Im just helping Bruce advertise is all!! :P

You weren't hoping to swoop in on the TDK and get it for a song were you?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 06, 2013, 11:34:38 AM
Here are some more people should add to their watch list!! Some of these dont even have any bids!!! :o

(http://snag.gy/nZr5u.jpg)(http://snag.gy/dwSOs.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 06, 2013, 12:39:51 PM
The chicanery is palpable  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 06, 2013, 01:01:02 PM
Come on Chris.. dont be beat out..

Get that bid in on the Hackers and Stripper one sheets.  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 07, 2013, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 06, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
I second fallenangel's remarks.  A year ago, both Bruce and Rich hung out here and contributed to the discussion.  Lately both dealers have been having this pointless feud where they keep seeing who can have the more obnoxious banner ad, who can have the last commercial post, and who is giving the best deal.

Give it a rest.  We buy from and we sell to both of you.  I personally don't come here for the current cage match.

What he said.  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 07, 2013, 06:42:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 06, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
One last question. What size should banner ads at the bottom be, and what size should the avatar be?

Since I won't be promoting my auctions in any way outside the "For Sale" threads, I WILL use both the avatar and banner spaces to advertize my auctions, so I would like some guidance on what size they are limited to (and then I promise to stick to those limits, and of course, I imagine all other dealers will do the same).

It is great to have clear rules that everyone abides by.

I haven't seen any specifics from T and H.
Frankly, I think they are too busy with things that are important to them and not sizing limitations of banner ads-used-as-signatures by feuding dealers.
This forum is supposed to be fun.

I don't think anyone had any gripes with the banner you were using.
Size-wise or otherwise.
 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 10, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Remember how someone here was saying the R51 Realart FRANKENSTEIN one-sheet was "over-priced" at $6,000+, and I explained that it is more rare than the 1931 regular one-sheet, and that many Realart lobbies are beyond rare, likely because they were shown at far fewer theaters?

Take a look at this babe: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3174718 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3174718)

That's for ONE lobby card for a re-release of a late Frankenstein sequel. Suddenly that R51 FRANKENSTEIN one-sheet doesn't seem over-priced (at least relatively)!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA131103/550/lc_house_of_dracula_3_R50_HP06452_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 10, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
Someone must need it to complete the set
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 10, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 10, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
Someone must need it to complete the set

At eMoviePoster.com you need TWO somebodies to get a really high result. It seems like a real long shot that BOTH of them need this to "complete their sets", but I guess stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 10, 2013, 05:24:50 PM
If these are as rare as you say then it could be possible this is a remaing piece that would be needed for multiple persons collections. Good luck and congrats to you and the seller!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 10, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 10, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
At eMoviePoster.com you need TWO somebodies to get a really high result. It seems like a real long shot that BOTH of them need this to "complete their sets", but I guess stranger things have happened.

Option #3 - One needs it to complete their set; the other just enjoys making completists pay more ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on November 10, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 10, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
Remember how someone here was saying the R51 Realart FRANKENSTEIN one-sheet was "over-priced" at $6,000+, and I explained that it is more rare than the 1931 regular one-sheet, and that many Realart lobbies are beyond rare, likely because they were shown at far fewer theaters?

The Realart Frankenstein one-sheet is not More rare than the 1931 one-sheet. Sorry, there are quite a few more than six copies known of the Realart one-sheet.

BUT...

The House of Dracula Realart set is extremely tough, and contains two of the very best Frankenstein images (easily the best Glenn Strange ones), the other being this great card you auctioned last year:
(http://www.emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA121028/550/lc_house_of_dracula_2_R50_NZ06490_L.jpg)

There are MANY collectors looking to add this card to their set. I would think that you could sell 3 or 4 more of each of those two cards and they would still sell in the $1000 range.

The Realart set for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf man also has what I feel is one of the very best Universal horror cards period and the only card in the entire series (Universal or Realart) to feature photos of two monsters on the same card. The next time you sell one of these my guess is would easily double the price of the House of Dracula card you just sold.
 
(http://emovieposter.com//images/books/vhp8_wb_550/550/lc_frankenstein_meets_the_wolf_man_4_R49.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on November 10, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Sean knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 10, 2013, 07:32:26 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on November 10, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Sean knows his stuff.

he is definitely an EXPERT in this area. He could probably put together a list of how many are known to exist for each various title in each various size and I'm sure he has done so for himself.

But why would these later posters sell for pretty good money? It's very simple, no matter how many exist, they don't change hands very often and for the most part when they do they never reach a price list or auction because they sell privately. Moreover, active collectors or those not currently collecting and not yet selling are resistant to sell them for market prices because they know if they want to replace it later, it will possibly cost them more than what they are selling for and that makes it a zero-sum game. Even more, when they sell in the future, again most will never see a public sales venue. Those collectors who are not fortunate enough to "be in the loop" will have a much more difficult time acquiring them.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 10, 2013, 09:20:45 PM
I have read - and hopefully you "old time" collectors can confirm - that these Realart re-releases used to be considered basically detritus?  Was that the impression/consensus for a long time?  It's only in the last 20 years or so perhaps that they have steadily risen in value?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 10, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
maybe the last 25-30 years Chris..
but you know what, 90% of what sells today in the hobby was considered detritus back then and alot of what is considered detritus now was considered top notch then..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 11, 2013, 12:03:35 PM
Some decent bus shelter posters hit eMovie! You know what they say .. bigger is better!! :)
(http://snag.gy/P3DBX.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 11, 2013, 02:01:20 PM
Mel sure is having a clear out...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 11, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
This one actually is a bit surprising.. I guess the prices have really dropped on these.
(http://snag.gy/gvsHn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
RR 83  it will climb a bit to $50 to $70...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 11, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
RR 83  it will climb a bit to $50 to $70...

BUT!!! When I bought it they were ~$100 !!! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 11, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
BUT!!! When I bought it they were ~$100 !!! :P

Actually, we figured it out on APF that there was an 83RR...

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2405.msg36744.html#msg36744

You were on the wrong side of the 83RR coin...  The first releases are still holding steady at $80 to $120...  The RR 83 are down...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 11, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
Actually, we figured it out on APF that there was an 83RR...

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2405.msg36744.html#msg36744

You were on the wrong side of the 83RR coin...  The first releases are still holding steady at $80 to $120...  The RR 83 are down...

Alright!! That's it!! All you pesky meddlers owe me $30-75!! Divide up however you want!! I will give my PP address when you are ready to send payment!! :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 11, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
Alright!! That's it!! All you pesky meddlers owe me $30-75!! Divide up however you want!! I will give my PP address when you are ready to send payment!! :D

You can take it out of my 50/50 cut from the quads...   ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 11, 2013, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 11, 2013, 03:04:22 PM
You can take it out of my 50/50 cut from the quads...   ;D

haha .. Damn you and your reasonable math!! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 11, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 10, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
maybe the last 25-30 years Chris..
but you know what, 90% of what sells today in the hobby was considered detritus back then and alot of what is considered detritus now was considered top notch then..


And that's how it works...I remember when 1920's & 30's westerns and Shirley Temple were all the rage...well they seem to have an anemic quality lately...Some Tarzan posters have dipped lately too..In November 2011 I never saw so many mediocre results for Laurel and Hardy material..

Stooges material is way up (6 scene cards at heritage this July went for $8,900 each!!) and its nice to see some Jumbo Lobby Cards (Dr. Jekyll specifically) doing well...which personally I think are way undervalued for what they are!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 12, 2013, 07:55:29 AM


What is this ...??? No one wants a stripper for only $1!!!???
(http://snag.gy/053RU.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 12, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 12, 2013, 07:55:29 AM

What is this ...??? No one wants a stripper for only $1!!!???
(http://snag.gy/053RU.jpg)

You gotta consign more family friendly posters ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 12, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
A 1938 Atlantic Pictures RR OS for The Bat Whispers (Joseph Schenck Prod, 1930).

Being offered for $3000.00 / OBO.

A lot of rippling near the top could suggest moisture or water damage of sorts. The description says the framed size is 34 x 36.5 inches. This must be a typo or this would almost be square shaped. I'm thinking the length is 46.5"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310791570511?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hHJHcFFkSpjHCDBSfqHipGBQ60_57_zpscd12ae22.jpg)

This uses the same art as one of the first release OS, with some slight alterations. Credit changes in the upper left corner and the "Greatest all talking thriller" text having been removed from above the image of the blonde and Chester Morris' placement shifted to compensate for that. Here's a (slightly cropped) OS image for comparison:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Batwhispers_zps7e114a5b.jpg)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 12, 2013, 11:45:54 PM
that Bat Whispers poster is either Kraft paper backed or even possibly backed on a board and is bubbling up
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Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
Now this is an interesting item.. with an opening bid of only $7.99. The item looks pretty calcified to me (hard water, maybe)...  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PART-OF-VINTAGE-1941-MOVIE-POSTER-CONFIRM-OR-DENY-DON-AMECHE-JOAN-BENNETT-MAYO-/141112710386?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20daf914f2


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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2013, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 13, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
Now this is an interesting item.. with an opening bid of only $7.99. The item looks pretty calcified to me (hard water, maybe)...  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PART-OF-VINTAGE-1941-MOVIE-POSTER-CONFIRM-OR-DENY-DON-AMECHE-JOAN-BENNETT-MAYO-/141112710386?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20daf914f2




That's so vintage it's been fossilized!  What a find
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Post by: Silhouette on November 13, 2013, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2013, 02:48:02 PM
That's so vintage it's been fossilized!  What a find

I'm holding out for when he lists his rarer, albeit slightly smaller, 1927 Metropolis 1SH. Saving my pennies.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 13, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
Here's one you dont see too often! Bruce has only ever had one of these in auction before and that was over 3 years ago!!
(http://snag.gy/jLx7X.jpg)
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Post by: guest8 on November 13, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
It looks like Bruce has a good selection of quads this time around too!
(http://snag.gy/0K4Pi.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on November 13, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
^  spam
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Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: wonka on November 13, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
^  spam

Spam 'n scrambled quads...

Tasty.

 ;)

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Post by: guest8 on November 13, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
haha .. they are all in auction on emovie .. and this is the mid-auction thread .. so it's not spam!! Its selective advertising!! :)
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Post by: eatbrie on November 13, 2013, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 13, 2013, 09:17:17 PM
haha .. they are all in auction on emovie .. and this is the mid-auction thread .. so it's not spam!! Its selective advertising!! :)

Yeah, thanks Dave, because we really need you to advertize Bruce's gear.  Bruce who?

Btw, is he paying you, free posters maybe?

T
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Post by: CSM on November 13, 2013, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 13, 2013, 09:20:08 PM
Yeah, thanks Dave, because we really need you to advertize Bruce's gear.  Bruce who?

Btw, is he paying you, free posters maybe?

T

They're probably just more that he has on consignment with Brucey
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 13, 2013, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 13, 2013, 09:20:08 PM

Btw, is he paying you, free posters maybe?


Employee #31?
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Post by: guest8 on November 13, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 13, 2013, 09:23:38 PM
They're probably just more that he has on consignment with Brucey

Yes, these are more of the ones that I consigned to Bruce @ EMOVIEPOSTER.COM!!! WOOT WOOT! :)

Now, if only Bruce would hire me as the secret 31st employee he could pay me with in store credit and I could be happy with that. ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 14, 2013, 12:39:11 AM
This looks to be an Argentine hand bill done by distributor Max Glucksmann, for Frankenstein. From the seller's description: "I believe it to be Issued In Transylvania or another country that actually belived in the Frankenstein as being REAL." 

BIN for $230,000.00   :o  OBO

One just sold on November 12th, for $99.00

Quite the price chasm, it seems.  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/movie-poster-1930s-frankenstein-Universal-Pic-Orignal-Hand-Bill-/331056414795?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1480004b

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqMOKooFJONNyefVBSc4bqDSQ60_57_zpsf761c0f9.jpg)

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Post by: Silhouette on November 14, 2013, 12:52:14 AM
You gotta figure (hope) that someone who can afford $230K on a poster has the smarts enough to check out whether $230K is a fair price, or pay someone else to do the checks for them...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 02:03:25 AM
it's the infamous Theo Holstein
I'm certain he knows that his description is a complete lie
I've known him from comics for 40 years and I refuse to do business with him.
I have one friend who keeps pushing me to offer art to Stu because he is very wealthy (family $) and my friend doesn't understand that someone having lots of money isn't the arbiter for whether I will sell anything to them or not

I have a truly low opinion of him
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on November 14, 2013, 07:40:06 AM
Yep, it's a Glucksman program, used in Argentina or Uruguay.
And we DO believe Frankenstein is real  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 14, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 13, 2013, 03:27:22 PM
It looks like Bruce has a good selection of quads this time around too!
(http://snag.gy/0K4Pi.jpg)

Too bad you didn't ask any of us if we wanted any of them...   hitself  Could have saved the 35% consignor fee...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 08:18:23 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 14, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
Too bad you didn't ask any of us if we wanted any of them...   hitself  Could have saved the 35% consignor fee...

How would he know the final prices before they were listed?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 14, 2013, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 08:18:23 AM
How would he know the final prices before they were listed?

Well as long as they are 35% above what he was hoping to get, I guess he'll come out alright...  There is a give and take - I concede to your statement.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 14, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on November 14, 2013, 07:40:06 AM
Yep, it's a Glucksman program, used in Argentina or Uruguay.
And we DO believe Frankenstein is real  :D

Some of us here do, too, Matias. No doubt. And I've seen more than a few of those types wandering around the streets here, too.   ;)

It was just funny how the seller worded it.. saying he felt the hand bill was printed or produced in Transylvania..

OR.....

Maybe it was?? LOL.   :o

 ;)
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Post by: guest8 on November 14, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 14, 2013, 08:16:23 AM
Too bad you didn't ask any of us if we wanted any of them...   hitself  Could have saved the 35% consignor fee...

Ill probably lose more than 35% to fees .. BUT .. some may go higher than I expect too .. ANNNDDD .. the main thing for me is, by sending the posters to Bruce I don't have to worry about shipping 40 poster tubes out either. If I had to do that Id have to buy poster tubes as well. I think of the 12 posters he has sold for me so far my "average" commission is 50%. You go big on some I lose out on some others. That's why Im running an average, I sent Bruce ~300 posters so I will take a look at the numbers once most/all of them are sold and see if it was a huge mistake or what little I lost was worth the hassle of not having to worry about shipping 200+ tubes all over the world.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
Agreed 100% Dave.  Shipping blows.  This is actually the #1 reason why I will not sell any of my gear.  I don't want to deal with it.  It's much easier to not sell at all.

T
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Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
Agreed 100% Dave.  Shipping blows.  This is actually the #1 reason why I will not sell any of my gear.  I don't want to deal with it.  It's much easier to not sell at all.

T

Some day, and that day may never come, when you (or Mrs T) is ready to sell, I will dispatch an eMoviePoster.com truck to you, and they will load it and drive it here, and you will only pay the cost of doing so, and therefore you will have zero work (or buying of materials).

But until that day, don't consider this advice at all.
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Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 14, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
Ill probably lose more than 35% to fees .. BUT .. some may go higher than I expect too .. ANNNDDD .. the main thing for me is, by sending the posters to Bruce I don't have to worry about shipping 40 poster tubes out either. If I had to do that Id have to buy poster tubes as well. I think of the 12 posters he has sold for me so far my "average" commission is 50%. You go big on some I lose out on some others. That's why Im running an average, I sent Bruce ~300 posters so I will take a look at the numbers once most/all of them are sold and see if it was a huge mistake or what little I lost was worth the hassle of not having to worry about shipping 200+ tubes all over the world.

After they are all sold, if you give me permission, I will post exactly what you received and the percentages you paid, and everyone here can judge whether you would have done better peddling them one by one here, or on eBay, or on some other site.
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Post by: Neo on November 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 14, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
Ill probably lose more than 35% to fees .. BUT .. some may go higher than I expect too .. ANNNDDD .. the main thing for me is, by sending the posters to Bruce I don't have to worry about shipping 40 poster tubes out either. If I had to do that Id have to buy poster tubes as well. I think of the 12 posters he has sold for me so far my "average" commission is 50%. You go big on some I lose out on some others. That's why Im running an average, I sent Bruce ~300 posters so I will take a look at the numbers once most/all of them are sold and see if it was a huge mistake or what little I lost was worth the hassle of not having to worry about shipping 200+ tubes all over the world.

Maybe Charlie was referring to the ones you sold that he restored?  It seems like he and his team put a lot of effort into doing excellent work.  If it were me in the same situation, especially on pieces I worked hard on and liked a lot, I'd appreciate the opportunity to purchase those.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
Some day, and that day may never come, when you (or Mrs T) is ready to sell, I will dispatch an eMoviePoster.com truck to you, and they will load it and drive it here, and you will only pay the cost of doing so, and therefore you will have zero work (or buying of materials).

But until that day, don't consider this advice at all.

My wife is ready to sell now, Bruce.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
My wife is ready to sell now, Bruce.

That is true with 99% of my consignors!

My largest consignor ever told me at our first meeting that he would not sell anything for ten years, and that after that he would spend years traveling the country in a mobile home, peddling his posters. I took one look at his wife's face as he said that, and I KNEW it was not going to work that way!

Instead, I sold everything for them, and they retired and he plays a round of golf every day!
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Post by: guest8 on November 14, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
After they are all sold, if you give me permission, I will post exactly what you received and the percentages you paid, and everyone here can judge whether you would have done better peddling them one by one here, or on eBay, or on some other site.
Sure, I don't mind.. I actually planned on doing that anyways. I've been keeping track of the posters as you've been listing them and recording the traits of the posters along with the condition you've listed them as being and the high bid along with the commission %. I thought it would be some good info for anyone that's thinking about consigning a lot of average posters and with 300 posters it should present a solid example of what people could expect.

Quote from: NeoLoco on November 14, 2013, 07:35:05 PM
Maybe Charlie was referring to the ones you sold that he restored?  It seems like he and his team put a lot of effort into doing excellent work.  If it were me in the same situation, especially on pieces I worked hard on and liked a lot, I'd appreciate the opportunity to purchase those.
I never thought of that, had I .. i wouldn't have hesitated to give Charlie first crack at any of the posters. Now I feel badly, thanks Neo! :(
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Post by: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
Instead, I sold everything for them, and they retired and he plays a round of golf every day!

Well, good for him, although I really hope that I have something better than my posters to retire on.  Life is expensive in LA, so if this the case, I better stack up on beans and noodles now.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 08:47:27 PM

some people just don't understand what this means

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/no_more_dealer_shit.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
This is actually a conversation started by Dave, Rich.  Bruce is only a participant, not the source.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
This is actually a conversation started by Dave, Rich.  Bruce is only a participant, not the source.

T

Thierry, I'm pretty sure that Holiday means this stuff as well as starting threads.

Realistically,  the correct method of telling someone you want to handle their material as a dealer on any main board is to contact them via PM, otherwise this thread and every other one will continue to have commercial conversations where there really shouldn't be T. Obviously what will happen is one person does his promo and other does his promo and before you know it the forum is right back where it was before Holiday stepped in again, with someone whining about banner sizes. There is no question that these preceding posts are purely commercial material. Dealer shit, embedded in the main board. It really should be kept in it's proper place. But I'll let you and Holiday decide and post accordingly. You know I'm happy to follow whatever rules you have in place.
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Post by: CSM on November 14, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
Does dealer shit smell like us regular folk shit?
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Post by: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 09:10:06 PM
There will always be some form of advertisement, Rich.  Obviously, you have your banner in your signature every time you post, and that's okay.  Bruce can do the same (even though he chooses not to).  What we take issue with is when a dealer, you, Bruce or anyone else start advertising their gear in the discussion threads for no other purpose but to advertise their gear.  When you, Rich, answer a member's question in the discussion thread and your banner pops up, you are advertising your shop, but you're not doing it for the sake of doing it.  You are answering a question and your banner is right there for all to see.  If members, in this case Dave, Charlie and David, discuss one of Bruce's upcoming auctions, the fact that Bruce participates to the discussion is only fair.  And he won't be able to do it without mentioning his upcoming sale, since it was precisely what the members were talking about.  There is a very clear distinction in my eyes.  I hope you see it.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 14, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
Does dealer shit smell like us regular folk shit?

some of it smells quite a bit worse
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Post by: CSM on November 14, 2013, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
some of it smells quite a bit worse

Damn - gotta change that dealer diet!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 09:13:33 PM
I fart in your general direction
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Post by: brude on November 14, 2013, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
some people just don't understand what this means

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/no_more_dealer_shit.jpg)



ha·rangue
[huh-rang] noun, verb, ha·rangued, ha·rangu·ing.

noun
1. a scolding or a long or intense verbal attack; diatribe.

2. a long, passionate, and vehement speech, especially one delivered before a public gathering.

3. any long, pompous speech or writing of a tediously hortatory or didactic nature; sermonizing lecture or discourse.

verb (used with object)

4. to address in a harangue.

verb (used without object)

5. to deliver a harangue.

Origin:
1530–40;  (noun) < Middle French harangue  < Italian ar ( r ) inga  speech, oration, noun derivative of ar ( r ) ingare  to speak in public, verbal derivative of aringo  public square < Gothic *hriggs ring1 ; (v.) < Middle French haranguer  < Italian ar ( r ) ingare

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/harangue?s=t (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/harangue?s=t)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 14, 2013, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2013, 09:13:33 PM
I fart in your general direction

Smells like elderberries
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Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: brude on November 14, 2013, 09:22:02 PM

a long, passionate, and vehement speech, especially one delivered before a public gathering.

any long, pompous speech or writing of a tediously hortatory or didactic nature; sermonizing lecture or discourse.


 laugh1
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Post by: wonka on November 14, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
After they are all sold, if you give me permission, I will post exactly what you received and the percentages you paid, and everyone here can judge whether you would have done better peddling them one by one here, or on eBay, or on some other site.

This is great. Really hope this happens, would love to see the results.

And thanks to David for being open to it for the betterment of the group.
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Post by: wonka on November 14, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
My wife is ready to sell now, Bruce.

I laughed.

My wife would sell all my stuff in a heartbeat. She may keep a few things for our kids if she had her way, but yeah...she would welcome the eMovieTruck any day.

I am sure she would like the various closets, extra guest room, and loft free to actually use for other things than stacks of tubes, boxes, and flat files.
Kinda embarrassing, really.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 14, 2013, 10:39:22 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 14, 2013, 09:24:45 PM
Smells like elderberries

Smells like Teen Spirit > Smells like Elderberries
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 01:25:53 AM
Both Bruce & Rich are upfront with their fees (I have never actually found written down what HA's are) so which is better value only comes down net return, all the rest is just salesmanship.

I have sent stuff to Bruce and nothing to Rich so I am not going to compare (who is better); but it's not rocket science to work out what one gets for each poster sold. I worked up a spreadsheet with a simple formula that tells me how much I have earned based on the hammer price of the poster I consigned. I also used this same formula to decide which poster I will send (based on possible sell hammer price), after all there is no point sending a low value poster (specially from this country). So provided Bruce's commissions haven't changed recently, if you're interested:

Open up Excel

In cell A1 put the name of the poster: eg Hannah and Her Sisters
In cell B1 put the number of posters of that title you are selling (and shame on you)
In cell C1 put the price you hope to achieve for that poster
In cell D1 copy n paste this formula: =IF(B1<7.99,B1*0.75, IF(B1<11.99,B1*0.66,IF(B1<19.99,B1*0.6,IF(B1<29.99,B1*0.5,IF(B1<39.99,B1*0.4,IF(B1<69.99,B1*0.35,IF(B1<99.99,B1*0.3,IF(B1<299,B1*0.28,B1*0.26))))))))*A1

*note ensure you copy the above formula as one line. The formula is only for posters under $299, I got bored typing the formula so stopped

In cell E1 copy n paste: =B1-C1

The result will show much Bruce takes and how much you get.

With Rich it's easier to calculate, he takes 25% no matter what.

To be honest it's not as simple as who sells the poster based on the commssions, the smart people will work a high and low price end scenario and then make a judgement call. But as we all know about auctions, there is no guarantee of the hammer price!

Have fun.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 01:32:52 AM
excuse me.. I posted 2 posts here in Mid-Auction that seem to have been removed. I certainly do not understand why. Going back through this thread I see another dealer who has continually posted his own mid-auction stuff, so why were my 2 posts deleted?

hmmmmm

doesn't seem to be fair
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 15, 2013, 03:05:05 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 01:32:52 AM
excuse me.. I posted 2 posts here in Mid-Auction that seem to have been removed. I certainly do not understand why. Going back through this thread I see another dealer who has continually posted his own mid-auction stuff, so why were my 2 posts deleted?

hmmmmm

doesn't seem to be fair


Hmmm, were the posts interesting?

My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 03:46:23 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 15, 2013, 03:05:05 AM

Hmmm, were the posts interesting? My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared


Your posts in his threads are like the Chupacabras, mysterious and never quite what they seem - are you sure you posted them?

I think I remember the one of that he does speak (pardon my grammar) was it about the bike/moon ET poster mid-auction report about it being at a fractions of the usual price? If it has been deleted he has a point, why would a post by him about his auction be deleted (censored) and not others who have done/do the same.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 04:34:07 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 03:46:23 AM
I think I remember the one of that he does speak (pardon my grammar) was it about the bike/moon ET poster mid-auction report about it being at a fractions of the usual price? If it has been deleted he has a point, why would a post by him about his auction be deleted (censored) and not others who have done/do the same.

correct David.. and also the Harry Potter poster. poof.. gone like magic
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 04:37:38 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 15, 2013, 03:05:05 AM

Hmmm, were the posts interesting?

My posts have also been disappearing but they were in the posternazi threads... though the whole threads disappeared

well I think you were actually going over the line there Steve.
by the way. I went to your namethisasshole page and I have a question
I can understand the ire and I can understand your page, but I can't understand linking to his listings on your page because all you do is help him get more search engine value & your promoting his auctions
also, when you post in his threads here, you're keeping him to the top of the subforum.. seems counter to your counterproductive interests
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 15, 2013, 05:49:08 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 04:37:38 AM
well I think you were actually going over the line there Steve.
by the way. I went to your namethisasshole page and I have a question
I can understand the ire and I can understand your page, but I can't understand linking to his listings on your page because all you do is help him get more search engine value & your promoting his auctions
also, when you post in his threads here, you're keeping him to the top of the subforum.. seems counter to your counterproductive interests


Posterazzi created a thread specifically to mock me (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7104.msg133791.html#msg133791), which I have provided a reply he so richly deserves. I would say he crossed the line with his vile language and intent to humiliate. I eagerly anticipate his next similar effort as I have soooo much more primed and ready.

If you can understand the ire and the page, what line did I cross in that thread, in your opinion?

I don't really care if more people go to his site from my links as my links hardly add to the 1.75 million links in Google when searching on posterazzi (https://www.google.com.au/search?num=100&q=posterazzi). If he looks at his web logs he may see some people came from the nameandshameyou site, which may make him think. But I am sure he doesn't care, else he wouldn't create have created that vile post, with his business name posterazzi attached. I am sure he doesn't give a toot!

I am only sharing my actual truthful experience of him on the web with others and mentioning where I have found better service. I am a believer of if your service and or communications to clients or potential clients is poor, then your comeuppance is that the resulting reviews of you are out there to live with. The seller had his fun and got the benefits, now wallow in it.



 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 15, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
Quote from: wonka on November 14, 2013, 10:35:23 PM
This is great. Really hope this happens, would love to see the results.

And thanks to David for being open to it for the betterment of the group.

No problem, I dont mind sharing .. and either way (if I post or Bruce does) I'll post the results of my auctions. I may do some research here in a bit and see about starting a thread following my consignment journey.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 15, 2013, 07:58:19 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 15, 2013, 07:32:45 AM
No problem, I dont mind sharing .. and either way (if I post or Bruce does) I'll post the results of my auctions. I may do some research here in a bit and see about starting a thread following my consignment journey.

YOU should do it, so the forum police don't arrest me!

I can provide you with the data, or you can assemble it yourself. Just be accurate.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 08:08:17 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 14, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
Ill probably lose more than 35% to fees .. BUT .. some may go higher than I expect too .. ANNNDDD .. the main thing for me is, by sending the posters to Bruce I don't have to worry about shipping 40 poster tubes out either. If I had to do that Id have to buy poster tubes as well. I think of the 12 posters he has sold for me so far my "average" commission is 50%. You go big on some I lose out on some others. That's why Im running an average, I sent Bruce ~300 posters so I will take a look at the numbers once most/all of them are sold and see if it was a huge mistake or what little I lost was worth the hassle of not having to worry about shipping 200+ tubes all over the world.

I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 15, 2013, 08:10:59 AM
haha .. sounds fun.. Maybe for the sake of comparison I can add a column to my spreadsheet "What Charlie would have paid" and you can go down the list and gauge the prices :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 15, 2013, 08:15:58 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 08:08:17 AM
I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie

"was"? Why not bid anyway?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 15, 2013, 09:03:16 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 08:08:17 AM
I'll note down what I would pay for the ones I want and send it to you and then we can compare the outcomes...  This may be fun because I was planning on bidding on some anyway...

Charlie

Now this is getting interesting!  Charlie, before the auctions end you should send Fallen your secret max bids -- then we can compare.  I'm a researcher by trade so love seeing the stats! 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on November 15, 2013, 09:28:32 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
That is true with 99% of my consignors!

My largest consignor ever told me at our first meeting that he would not sell anything for ten years, and that after that he would spend years traveling the country in a mobile home, peddling his posters. I took one look at his wife's face as he said that, and I KNEW it was not going to work that way!

Instead, I sold everything for them, and they retired and he plays a round of golf every day!

Hilarious.

Excellent story.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 15, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Well, good for him, although I really hope that I have something better than my posters to retire on.  Life is expensive in LA, so if this the case, I better stack up on beans and noodles now.

T

Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 15, 2013, 10:35:40 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 15, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)

It seems that L.A. people go to places like Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver. Then the people in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver who sold THEIR overpriced homes to the L.A. crowd move to the Midwest. Tiny West Plains MO has a bunch of transplanted Mountain Westerners, who are astounded they can buy a decent home for $150,000 or a mansion for $400,000 in this area.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2013, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 15, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
Just do what everyone else does.  Sell that overpriced house and retire somewhere else in the Mountain West.  Pay too much for the new place, while thinking what a bargain it is compared to LA and help drive the market back up in Las Vegas, Phoenix or Denver :)

Ah Ah Ah...  Funny!  Colorado, I would probably think about it for a minute.  I like Boulder a lot.  But Phoenix and Las Vegas...  over my dead body.  That would never happen.  My wife is from Scottsdale and I absolutely hate it.  Same with Vegas.  No, I love Southern Cal too much.  And I already moved from Paris.  So I'm done.  My wife had an opportunity to move to London last year for a very lucrative job and I said no.  I'm here on liberal land and I ain't moving.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 15, 2013, 08:15:58 AM
"was"? Why not bid anyway?

Well, I moved past the planning stage after a quick preview and adding them to my watch list.  I am on to the implementation phase which includes bidding only 5 minutes prior to the end of the auctions...  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 15, 2013, 09:03:16 AM
Now this is getting interesting!  Charlie, before the auctions end you should send Fallen your secret max bids -- then we can compare.  I'm a researcher by trade so love seeing the stats! 

I've sent my prices on the ones I will actually bid on...  It wouldn't be accurate to speculate what I may or may not pay for stuff I may or may not really want...  But we shall see.  I've already raised one max bid price due to a beaming oversight.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on November 15, 2013, 01:03:24 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists. 

It's got a bit more happening than a Big Ben photo opportunity Paul!

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2013, 01:30:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
T, you made the right choice not moving to London, it's OK for a visit, but there's no way in the world I'd live there… It's just for the tourists.  

It's very much like Paris from what I hear, Paul.  I spent a lot of time in London growing up, but it appears the city has changed quite a lot.  I was in Paris in September, and god this city is going down fast.  Not for tourists.  For tourists, it will always be one, if not the most beautiful large city in the world.  But for anyone who's actually lived there, it's a shithole.  The people are miserable, immigration is rampant and creates so much hatred and conflict, people have no money, the Socialist government of Holland is an absolute joke, etc., etc.  No, I'm done with Europe for sure.  As much as America has changed over the last 40 years, it is still, I believe, the greatest country in the world.  Except for Arizona, of course.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
I had this dream of maybe retiring in Provence one day, buying a large house overlooking a winery, drinking rose, eating tomato mazzarella and listening to the crickets at sunset, and then someone recently told me: "Provence, are you crazy, it's full of gangs and crime."  So Provence no more :(

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 01:53:33 PM
It has Mark, but living there every day…  the congestion, the charges, 90% of the people are ignorant, no one has the time of day for you. The place seems so over crowded, there's litter all over, it's grubby, it is like visiting a different country from "up North". It took me an Hour and a half to travel 20 miles across London, I had to Park Twice, £4 an Hour was the first stop, and £10.10 for 4 hours the second, plus £7.50 for a day Rover ticket…?  I'd be skint in a few months. The cost of even a Cup of Coffee is ridiculous..

It has great night life, and there's lots to do and see, but I love the peace of where I live. People are pleasant, I can go for a drive and enjoy it, and can stop for a meal that won't need a Bank-loan... ;)

I think T's description of Paris is very close to London now-a-days.  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 15, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
That's not "mine" London .

It is a great city. Free entrance to the best museums, best cinema and theater at the Southbank, free concerts at St Martin in the Fields. Best operas at Covent Garden, and ballet...and nope. You don't need a fortune to live here.

And of course, the best tennis @ Wimbledon.

Love London.  I lived in Madrid, Barcelona, Rome and Brussels. Short term in NYC.

But London wins.    :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2013, 02:25:15 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 15, 2013, 02:22:22 PM
That's not "mine" London .

It is a great city. Free entrance to the best museums, best cinema and theater at the Southbank, free concerts at St Martin in the Fields. Best operas at Covent Garden, and ballet...and nope. You don't need a fortune to live here.

And of course, the best tennis @ Wimbledon.

Love London.  I lived in Madrid, Barcelona, Rome and Brussels. Short term in NYC.

But London wins.    :-*

And we must assume you also like Big Ben (as well as the clock tower)?

 ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 02:33:52 PM
That's quite apt Jeff as it's the Bell that's named Big Ben and not the tower as most think...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 15, 2013, 02:34:57 PM
Yep. Westminster Palace. I go there often because of my work. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2013, 02:38:22 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 02:33:52 PM
That's quite apt Jeff as it's the Bell that's named Big Ben and not the tower as most think...

I'm apt to be apt, from time to time, Paul.   ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 15, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 15, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
Sorry gang...I'm the only big Ben 'round here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 01:32:52 AM
excuse me.. I posted 2 posts here in Mid-Auction that seem to have been removed. I certainly do not understand why. Going back through this thread I see another dealer who has continually posted his own mid-auction stuff, so why were my 2 posts deleted?

hmmmmm

doesn't seem to be fair

so will someone let me know why this happened?
clearly this thread has been used for quite some time for the purpose stated above, so why were my posts singled out. Like someone else, I just want to know what the rules are and if my posts were removed due to some rule, will someone be going back through this thread to remove all such posts to bring those posts into line with the rules as well?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 15, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
(http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/attachments/football/16285d1352687385-tim-dobbins-u-mad-bro.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:04:36 PM
not at all Ben.. I just want to know why my posts were removed, seeing as they are no different from dozens of such posts by someone else in this very thread. If you removed them, maybe you should say so and be upfront about it. If Thierry removed them, then I would hope someone would explain the rule. That's all.

ps: David also thought it was interesting & not "equal" so he might also like to know the rule.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:04:36 PM
not at all Ben.. I just want to know why my posts were removed, seeing as they are no different from dozens of such posts by someone else in this very thread. If you removed them, maybe you should say so and be upfront about it. If Thierry removed them, then I would hope someone would explain the rule. That's all.

ps: David also thought it was interesting & not "equal" so he might also like to know the rule.

To be fair Rich it's not just one person who "outs" their own auctions in this thread, but why yours were deleted is a reasonable question.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
To be fair Rich it's not just one person who "outs" their own auctions in this thread, but why yours were deleted is a reasonable question.

see.. David does want to know

(thanks David)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 15, 2013, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
see.. David does want to know

(thanks David)

Actually...I was more supporting the question before the house rather than caring about the answer itself; although one hopes the answer doesn't lie within the pages of Animal Farm.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
that's still thanks

 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 15, 2013, 05:25:17 PM
Deleted posts?
That's news to me.
Maybe you posted in another thread and are mixed up?
Check your post history.  That should narrow it down.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 15, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
T, can you also delete the last 3 posts here of Rich... Too many banner ads again on this page. Too many fat smileys too. You know how you can't tolerate clowns, well, I am the same with fat smilies, thanks

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 15, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Oh! That last post was meant to be a PM <please ignore it>
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 15, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 15, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Oh! That last post was meant to be a PM <please ignore it>

 rofl1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:32:48 PM
yes Ted.. in this thread.. David clearly saw them as can be seen by running back and reading the previous page or so

and Steve.. I knew eventually someone else would also be jealous of my "banner size"
with my next auction, I'll post a smaller one in the flacid state, though I suspect that may also arouse jealousy

ps: please ignore my banner. I meant to send it to Steve in a PM

 sm1 O0 woohoo qip laugh1 happy1 cheers deadhorse spam welcome1 pctrash coffee whip nono lurkers wow1 mesmrized eyeroll2 hitself waiting1 blahblah ap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 15, 2013, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:32:48 PM
yes Ted.. in this thread.. David clearly saw them as can be seen by running back and reading the previous page or so

I read David's post before I posted my own.
Just because he remembers reading it doesn't necessarily mean that it was in this thread.
Check your post history.
It should still be there and then we can track it down.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: brude on November 15, 2013, 05:35:50 PM
I read David's post before I posted my own.
Just because he remembers reading it doesn't necessarily mean that it was in this thread.
Check your post history.
It should still be there and then we can track it down.

Ted..

they
are
gone

they
were
in
this
thread
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 15, 2013, 05:42:54 PM
Did
you
confirm
this
by
scanning
your
post
history?

If
not,
skip
a
turn
and
go
back
to
start
and
start
scanning.

 wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
you bet I did buddy. I don't understand why you think I'm telling a story here
2 posts
mid-auction because ET & Harry Potter are not yet finished and at that moment, both were at dirt cheap prices & I was questioning what people think they would end at

pfft.. gone.. like smoke into the air.. like a magician's assistant in a box
into the ether
gone with the wind
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 15, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
Aha...so they are for current auctions.
hitself
That explains it.
I'm sure you'll be getting a PM. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
yes Ted.. Mid-auction analysis, just like these posts

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg133810.html#msg133810

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg132878.html#msg132878

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg133456.html#msg133456

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg133609.html#msg133609

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg133639.html#msg133639

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg131565.html#msg131565

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg131629.html#msg131629

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg132066.html#msg132066


how much farther back do you want me to go?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
I don't think many would consider Dave a dealer... Am I missing something?  He may be bombarding the board with his wares being auctioned somewhere else, but I don't see the big deal.  Now if Bruce had come on board and started providing links... Maybe.  I usually find your arguments sound, but I am baffled by this one.

Are you trying to say that he should have posted them in the "For Sale" section.  I mean they are mid-auction and from a very novice "dealer" if you want to call him that.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 06:55:58 PM
one or two of those links are Bruce's and others are people hawking their own material Bruce is selling for them.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
Charlie is right, Dave is NOT a dealer.  You are, Rich.  I think I said it a little earlier, but maybe you didn't get it.  DO NOT POST YOUR GEAR ON THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU ARE ANSWERING A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC ITEM.  

And your banner is TOO BIG.  You made it bigger than the last time we talked.

And your little feud with Bruce is really getting old.  I don't know if you realize it, but it's really making you look like a bully.  If your only participation to this forum is posting your gear, making your banner as obnoxious as can be and attacking Bruce, please, do not post anymore.  Holiday and I are BOTH tired of dealing with this shit.  We are not enjoying it, and if it means pulling the plug and shutting this whole place down, trust me, we'll do it.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on November 15, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
Thierry

I have no "feud" with Rich. I think that is clear if you read over any and all of the threads he and/or I have posted in.

I said that I would be willing to quit posting here (except in the threads for dealers) and that made no difference.

I renew that offer. Would you like me to quit posting, except in those two threads (or quit posting at all)?

I just posted a message to Rich in the other thread. I don't understand where his feud came from, or what he is trying to accomplish.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2013, 07:32:16 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 15, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
Charlie is right, Dave is NOT a dealer.  You are, Rich.  I think I said it a little earlier, but maybe you didn't get it.  DO NOT POST YOUR GEAR ON THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU ARE ANSWERING A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT A SPECIFIC ITEM.  

And your banner is TOO BIG.  You made it bigger than the last time we talked.

And your little feud with Bruce is really getting old.  I don't know if you realize it, but it's really making you look like a bully.  If your only participation to this forum is posting your gear, making your banner as obnoxious as can be and attacking Bruce, please, do not post anymore.  Holiday and I are BOTH tired of dealing with this shit.  We are not enjoying it, and if it means pulling the plug and shutting this whole place down, trust me, we'll do it.

T

T. I'm not trying to make trouble for either of you. I post alot in a number of subforums here with real info and it is rare that you see me post commercial shit in my threads. I think it's really unfair to single me out in this way. Moreover Bruce & others has posted links to his own stuff in this thread numerous times as David has also said. I keep my promotions to DEALER FORUM and SALES. I think that everyone should keep to that rule. You've never seen me post any of my auctions in any main board thread here and I never posted one in this thread before, but that can't be said of everyone.

Feuds.. you know, that's been 100% a two-way street and more than one member here has leveled his critique of that on the other guy, who continues to post little snide comments directed at me and others that you may not notice. I'm guessing yu don't know why Movie Poster Talk went down. I can tell you, the same person was at the center of that and it wasn't me, because though I had visited MPT, I didn't join because of the garbage I was seeing.

I'm fine with seeing this ignorance end, but your ire should be directed at everyone involved. I'm reacting to garbage. I don't make other people say the things that they say and if someone were to say something ignorant about you, I have to believe you will defend yourself. As a matter of fact, what would you and Holiday be saying if Andy was here. You have both had some pretty disparaging comments toward him and whether I agree with them is not an issue
.

None the less. I am only asking for the rules to be applied equally to me as to others.
I don't think you would disagree that the main board is not supposed to be used for personal promotion of any kind, save signatures and I don't believe you can accuse me of ever having used the main board commercially. My banner right now is actually only 5 pixels taller than the replacement banner I used after you asked me to edit. I will edit it again and take not of the height when I create another.

On the feud, stop both sides of it - completely - and it will be finished here.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 15, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
Most of our active members are collectors, not dealers.
We gather here for the aesthetic appreciation of the mania..to share acquisitions, advice and knowledge.
We joke, we laugh, we mock, we stroke.... all good-natured.
APF is a friendly water hole.

But Rich, whether Bruce got your goat with his innuendos or not, you are spoiling the water.
Lighten up.  Roll with the punches.  Show some restraint. 
You don't want to be known as the 'angry auctioneer' now, do you?








 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on November 15, 2013, 11:12:28 PM
A) Rich has to have the last word on everything.
B) See A.
C) See B.

Bruce, there is no threat to your operation, I would suggest to simply stop replying.

Both need to take a deep breath, step back a little and see you are going to start irritating buyers and HURTING your bottom lines.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 15, 2013, 11:16:09 PM
The Mid-auction analysis thread must be the most angry thread of them all. I think it should be moved to Let It All Out section!


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2013, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 15, 2013, 11:16:09 PM
The Mid-auction analysis thread must be the most angry thread of them all. I think it should be moved to Let It All Out section!

Fo' Sho'

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 16, 2013, 12:05:25 AM
I think the Let It All Out section should be moved under this thread  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 16, 2013, 12:16:07 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 16, 2013, 12:05:25 AM
I think the Let It All Out section should be moved under this thread  :P

Finally someone with some sense.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on November 16, 2013, 12:23:14 AM
I could not agree more with Ted and Thierry.  For the first time, I broached the subject of closing down this forum because the bullshit is getting old.  And it's not just Rich and Bruce bickering.  There are a handful of others too that allow the point of this forum to get lost.  If you can't be courteous and respectful, then leave.  Please.  Any other purpose is not wanted.  It's about poster collecting.  Not about fights between them or dealers. 

Please, no plucky comments in response to this.  No "it's not me" responses.  No "I didn't start it" responses. 

End it or we will.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on November 16, 2013, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 14, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
Some day, and that day may never come, when you (or Mrs T) is ready to sell, I will dispatch an eMoviePoster.com truck to you, and they will load it and drive it here, and you will only pay the cost of doing so, and therefore you will have zero work (or buying of materials).

But until that day, don't consider this advice at all.

Quote from: eatbrie on November 14, 2013, 07:58:42 PM
My wife is ready to sell now, Bruce.

Just got back from a week-long hearing in Massachusetts. Spotted this store on Long Island on the way back (took the ferry from Conn).  I'm thinking Bruce and Thierry/Eatbrie have already gone into business together. Hmmm....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/IMG_2789_zpsb89992e8.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/IMG_2791_zpsbc0e8d56.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on November 16, 2013, 10:42:53 PM
Alright- that's funny.  Lordy Lu that's Funny!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 16, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
I am surprised Bruce was able to negotiate the naming rights - and some of those cheeses look linenbacked - maybe Thierry is a silent partner?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 16, 2013, 11:32:16 PM
Just be sure you ask for 'large' or 'small' cheese wedges...'grande' or 'petite' will probably get you thrown out.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 16, 2013, 11:45:50 PM
I like how Mel went in there to take a photo of cheese. People there may have thought he was nuts

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 16, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
Quote from: wonka on November 16, 2013, 11:32:16 PM
Just be sure you ask for 'large' or 'small' cheese wedges...'grande' or 'petite' will probably get you thrown out.

Words of wisdom
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 17, 2013, 12:14:14 AM
Quote from: 50s on November 16, 2013, 11:45:50 PM
I like how Mel went in there to take a photo of cheese. People there may have thought he was nuts



Lucky he didn't spot TED OFFAL SHACK round the corner
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 17, 2013, 12:30:35 AM
Quote from: Ari on November 17, 2013, 12:14:14 AM
Lucky he didn't spot TED OFFAL SHACK round the corner

Don't know how he missed it with the lineup around the block
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 17, 2013, 01:22:51 PM
This is just STUNNING!!  bed1  bed1

A special "color-paint" enlargement poster, done by Charles Lennox Wright, of Marlene Dietrich, for her film, Blonde Venus (1932).
And to see what this poster cost to buy originally, on the PB page.. a whopping 75¢ each.  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARLENE-DIETRICH-in-BLONDE-VENUS-1932-Ultra-rare-art-poster-by-CHARLES-WRIGHT-/321249094330?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4acbf02aba

BIN: $3000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BlondeVenus1932specialOS_zpsb378bcd8.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BlondeVenus1932specialOS_b_zps6cefbcf7.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 17, 2013, 03:34:13 PM
It looks like an Italian painting....Tiziano...really pretty.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 19, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 15, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
I've sent my prices on the ones I will actually bid on...  It wouldn't be accurate to speculate what I may or may not pay for stuff I may or may not really want...  But we shall see.  I've already raised one max bid price due to a beaming oversight.

Results Show...  I ended up not bidding on the other Pearl Harbor because it had exceed the $15 mark...

$134 +$15 for other PH = $149 w/o consignment fees...

With Consignment Fees: (100% minus EMP %)
Almost Famous = $82 * 70% = $57.4
Dogma = 19 * 40% = $7.6
Pearl Harbor1 = $26 *50% = $13
Pearl Harbor2 = $17 * 40% = $6.8
Somersault = $1 * 25% = $.25
Unfaithful = $9 * 34% = $3.06
My Summer of Love = $8 * 34% = $2.72

Total - Consignment Fees = $90.83

Difference = $149 - $90.83 = $58.17 a 60.95% loss...  You could have probably asked me to send you a check too...


(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/112013/quad_bids_charlie.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 19, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
Currently listed with a BIN of $1000.00 (999.99/obo), this very copy of The Road to Reno was only just won from the Oct 6, 2013 HA Sunday nite auction, for $173.28

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161340&lotNo=52357

A nice little markup, in just one month.  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-THE-ROAD-TO-RENO-1SH-1-ONE-SHEET-27-X-41-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-STYLE-A-/291019557841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c21e0bd1

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/zc3i_zpscd2c7451.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 19, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
Yeah but the seller offers free shipping!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 19, 2013, 10:19:58 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 19, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
Yeah but the seller offers free shipping!

So true... & such a deal!!

 ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on November 19, 2013, 10:27:27 PM
Quote from: Charlie on November 19, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
Results Show...  I ended up not bidding on the other Pearl Harbor because it had exceed the $15 mark...

$134 +$15 for other PH = $149 w/o consignment fees...

With Consignment Fees: (100% minus EMP %)
Almost Famous = $82 * 70% = $57.4
Dogma = 19 * 40% = $7.6
Pearl Harbor1 = $26 *50% = $13
Pearl Harbor2 = $17 * 40% = $6.8
Somersault = $1 * 25% = $.25
Unfaithful = $9 * 34% = $3.06
My Summer of Love = $8 * 34% = $2.72

Total - Consignment Fees = $90.83

Difference = $149 - $90.83 = $58.17 a 60.95% loss...  You could have probably asked me to send you a check too...




That's a heck of a breakdown there, Charlie.  Congrats on the wins.  thumbup 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Cyborg on November 20, 2013, 07:07:15 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 19, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
Yeah but the seller offers free shipping!

And apparently the seller knows the poster came from a smoke free home  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 20, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 19, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
Results Show...  I ended up not bidding on the other Pearl Harbor because it had exceed the $15 mark...

$134 +$15 for other PH = $149 w/o consignment fees...

With Consignment Fees: (100% minus EMP %)
Almost Famous = $82 * 70% = $57.4
Dogma = 19 * 40% = $7.6
Pearl Harbor1 = $26 *50% = $13
Pearl Harbor2 = $17 * 40% = $6.8
Somersault = $1 * 25% = $.25
Unfaithful = $9 * 34% = $3.06
My Summer of Love = $8 * 34% = $2.72

Total - Consignment Fees = $90.83

Difference = $149 - $90.83 = $58.17 a 60.95% loss...  You could have probably asked me to send you a check too...

You have the profit and commish backwards .. Total was $149 - $90.83 (my profit) = 58.17 (Emovie Profit)

This isn't really the thread for this though, Ill be creating a new thread following my consignment journey here in a bit (unless I get sidetracked with actual work :P) We can discuss my thoughts on the costs, downfalls and benefits in there.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 20, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on November 20, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
You have the profit and commish backwards .. Total was $149 - $90.83 (my profit) = 58.17 (Emovie Profit)

This isn't really the thread for this though, Ill be creating a new thread following my consignment journey here in a bit (unless I get sidetracked with actual work :P) We can discuss my thoughts on the costs, downfalls and benefits in there.

Ok not the thread but the $58 is the difference in what is you got and my max bids... this number is different and is lower than Bruce's cut... $162 (winning bids) - $90.83 (Your take home) = $71...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on November 20, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Charlie on November 20, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
Ok not the thread but the $58 is the difference in what is you got and my max bids... this number is different and is lower than Bruce's cut... $162 (winning bids) - $90.83 (Your take home) = $71...

Sorry I misread your numbers then. :)
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7146.msg134683.html#msg134683
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on November 26, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
Sure it's a sort after title and (IMHO) the design is better than the original but at $475 that's 10 times the price of the last one auction a year ago...

Ooops good point Charlie

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3197521
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on November 26, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on November 26, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
Sure it's a sort after title and (IMHO) the design is better than the original (IMHO) but at $475 that's 10 times the price of the last one auction a year ago...

?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 01, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
Up and up it goes, where it stops, nobody knows....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Houdini.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on December 01, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 01, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
Up and up it goes, where it stops, nobody knows....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Houdini.jpg)

Pretty sweet piece, I would not be surprised if there are some Houdini collectors in the shape of professional magicians chasing it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 01, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on December 01, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Pretty sweet piece, I would not be surprised if there are some Houdini collectors in the shape of professional magicians chasing it.

there's a pretty good chance I would think that the poster winds up in a building here in Vegas on Russell Road.

http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Tour-David-Copperfields-Private-Magic-Museum-Video
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on December 03, 2013, 06:47:13 PM
Yeah, that Houdini piece is just mind-blowing. Such an incredible piece of art and history rolled into one.

I hope Criss Angel bids up Copperfield and they have a showdown like The Prestige over this bad boy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
I think this seller (who always has very fine posters listed) may have also seen the result on the Houdini poster Bruce auctioned last night, The Grim Game (Houdini is mentioned in the auction title description). ;)

A US OS, linen backed, for the 1923 documentary, Is Conan Doyle Right? (Nine-Ten Corp)   bed1

BIN: $25,000 / obo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/IsConan_zps2a898d58.jpg)*

*(color and white balanced, as the ebay photo was too blue/lit with daylight)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IS-CONAN-DOYLE-RIGHT-Arthur-Conan-Doyle-Houdini-Spiritual-Original-Poster-1923-/310812939426?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item485de514a2

Slate writing was well touted in the late 19th and early 20th century, as a way for the dead to communicate with the living. A fascinating period in time, when held seances were also the rage.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 04, 2013, 10:43:23 PM
Funny that Arthur Conan Doyle wrote all those brilliant logical Sherlock Holmes stories and believed in all that hocus-pocus hokum!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 05, 2013, 08:28:07 AM
How high will this Kong climb?

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Kong.jpg)

On the lower end of the scale, another one of these "Canadian" LA Confidentials has popped up. (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3213025)  Will it go for $1,500 this time?  I paid $750 for another copy from Ebay and a certain Monsieur on this board told me I had drastically overpaid ;)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Confidential.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 05, 2013, 08:45:00 AM
This is the second (and only other one) from the Warner Bros exec. After this, good luck finding one!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 05, 2013, 08:51:01 AM
Bob Brooks is going to sell his eventually but he's currently incommunicado.

http://neugo.com/rare-movie-posters-6.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on December 05, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
That LA Confidential is incredibly difficult to find and a true modern unicorn - I am very relieved not to have to compete in Bruce's auction.

Mark
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
This poster has been extended for 40 minutes and the two bidders keep battling!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA131203/550/6sh_saint_joan_JC09726_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 08:58:06 PM
What a battle royale! After 46 minutes of extended bidding, during which time the two combatants took the bidding from $650 all the way to $1,550, the winner is Cinemaicons, one of the foremost dealers in the hobby (perhaps bidding for a customer)!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: marklawd on December 05, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
That LA Confidential is incredibly difficult to find and a true modern unicorn - I am very relieved not to have to compete in Bruce's auction.

Mark

You called this correctly Mark! $ 1,877.00 and it still has a few more minutes!

A new auction record.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 09:10:59 PM
$ 2,127.00!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
It is done. 2,327.00!

And no, Thierry was NOT the high bidder!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 10, 2013, 10:47:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
It is done. 2,327.00!

And no, Thierry was NOT the high bidder!

The PPP in me wants to say someone has more dollars than cents
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 11, 2013, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 10, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
It is done. 2,327.00!

And no, Thierry was NOT the high bidder!

Funny Bruce, but no.  I would not bid more than $200 on this poster.  Bidding such ridiculous amounts on modern posters is crazy (imo, of course.)  Unless money means nothing to you.  Like that Pulp Fiction advance.  $1,800 in September, $1,100 today, $500 tomorrow.  Maybe people are finally coming to their senses on that title.  The Bass Schindler's for $2k...  laugh1  $800 next time maybe.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on December 11, 2013, 10:48:21 PM
Yeah, its a cool poster, but I would only pay around $200 for it as well. Different strokes, different folks.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on December 12, 2013, 03:58:19 AM
I can't even think of a poster I'd pay $200 for. Except if it was a bargain to resell.
(Slight exaggeration perhaps)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 02:02:01 AM
Here is something extremely rare....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on December 17, 2013, 03:00:28 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 02:02:01 AM
Here is something extremely rare....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06)

Very cool
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 17, 2013, 03:06:13 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 02:02:01 AM
Here is something extremely rare....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-W-Griffith-Birth-of-a-Nation-Original-Set-of-8-Lobby-Cards-w-envelope-/111239228678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e65fed06)


that is a very cool set, but it is a re-issue set from the 1920s
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 03:47:36 AM
Exactly...still rare but re-release...United Artists didn't form until 1919...D.W Griffith was a founder...any paper with United artist on it is certainly post 1919...end of story
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 17, 2013, 03:51:22 AM
yes, but the guy's listing says "original"

I'm not sure there would be lobby cards for the 1915 release and if there were they're probably 8x10 or 9x11. I don't think 11x14 size was used until 1917/1918.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 04:44:05 AM
I agree...there are records for Epoch Distributing company...the window card that heritage sold has an interesting litho label...and Griffith could have easily used different lithographers for different distributions during 1915/1916...I hate to say it but the one sheets that appear with the different layouts have always left me wondering which were a slightly later release (like 1916) as the film really took advantage of it's stellar box office appeal...lobby cards from the 1915 release just dont seem feasible...I would acknowledge 1915 window cards based on the lithography trail...but lobby cards...????
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on December 17, 2013, 05:09:01 AM
There WERE lobby cards starting in late 1915, but none from the movie have surfaced. The ones pictured are from the 1921 re-release.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 17, 2013, 09:44:27 PM
Wonder what the reserve is?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on December 17, 2013, 11:49:43 PM
Does this mean Bruce...that you or anyone else have seen advertising such as a pressbook...that indicates lobby cards were produced for the 1915 original release? Is it entirely likely that there is 1916 release paper for BOAN that differs slightly? Is it possible that there are no original lobby card size format pieces from the 1915 release...but later releases have included them?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 18, 2013, 04:57:39 AM
who wants to share.. we can cut it into stamp sized pieces and ship one to each partner

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a#shpCntId
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on December 18, 2013, 02:26:58 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 18, 2013, 04:57:39 AM
who wants to share.. we can cut it into stamp sized pieces and ship one to each partner

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a#shpCntId
WOW I cannot believe what that is up to. And it started at .99. Crazy what people will pay for certain things.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 18, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
likely mostly fake bids. it was up to 110k
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Post by: stewart boyle on December 18, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 18, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
likely mostly fake bids. it was up to 110k
It does look like that now you mention it..top bidder has had 3 previous transactions.

Stew
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Post by: oldposterho on December 18, 2013, 07:03:43 PM
Some bidder is looking for a cap in his ass - in self defense of course.
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Post by: CSM on December 18, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 18, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
likely mostly fake bids. it was up to 110k

Yep
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 19, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
2/3 of the one of the greatest three sheets "eva" is up for bid. What to do, what to do, what to do.  Maybe create and print out a 7x41 inch title area and convert it into a 40x60?

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/WDL0.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Where%20Danger%20Lives%20%281950%20US%203S%29.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/WDL1.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/WDL3.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on December 19, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
With 1/2 a gun Faith loses some of her umph
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 20, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 19, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
With 1/2 a gun Faith loses some of her umph

Hmmm, well she is unarmed in the banner....

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Banner.jpeg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Where%20Danger%20Lives%20%281950%20US%20banner%29%20%28cropped%29.jpeg)
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Post by: Bruce on December 20, 2013, 10:18:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 19, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
With 1/2 a gun Faith loses some of her umph

We think way differently. For me, NONE of her "umph" comes from her gun.
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Post by: CSM on December 20, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 20, 2013, 10:18:48 AM
We think way differently. For me, NONE of her "umph" comes from her gun.

If you weren't auctioning the poster in question Bruce I'd be more inclined to accept your opinion ;)
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Post by: Bruce on December 20, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 20, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
If you weren't auctioning the poster in question Bruce I'd be more inclined to accept your opinion ;)

Makes sense!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 20, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
Some people really don't mind posing....
 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEVEN-YEAR-ITCH-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-MARILYN-MONROE-NOT-A-REPRINT-/261353866376)
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Marilyn.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 21, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
I was on Heritage this morning and saw this banner -- What is that Dracula?  Maybe an R47-ish daybill?  Nothing is listed in the March auction yet...

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/ScreenShot2013-12-21at95354AM_zpsdc50d224.png)
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Post by: CSM on December 21, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 21, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
I was on Heritage this morning and saw this banner -- What is that Dracula?  Maybe an R47-ish daybill?  Nothing is listed in the March auction yet...

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/ScreenShot2013-12-21at95354AM_zpsdc50d224.png)

 jawdrop


But I think it could be a 3 sheet - you can just make out on the right border where the black doesn't quite lineup perfectly...
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Post by: CSM on December 21, 2013, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 20, 2013, 06:55:52 PM
Some people really don't mind posing....
 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEVEN-YEAR-ITCH-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-MARILYN-MONROE-NOT-A-REPRINT-/261353866376)
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-12/Marilyn.jpg)

Wonder why the seller is peddling the 7 Year Itch again?  It "sold" in October for $1,500...

Of course back then the holder was anonymous ;)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 21, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
That Dracula must be the 1947rr threet sheet. Very similar to the 1S:

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=34027
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 21, 2013, 11:34:26 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 21, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
jawdrop


But I think it could be a 3 sheet - you can just make out on the right border where the black doesn't quite lineup perfectly...

Good catch... I had just glanced at it before I posted. I was thinking maybe a daybill as the portrait didn't look to be the same, ahem, caliber as the 1-sheet. :)

If it is indeed a 3-sheet would that make it the earliest known?  I don't recall ever seeing a 1st release or '38 re-release 3-sheet.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 21, 2013, 02:21:38 PM
it is indeed the three sheet from a famous collection
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Post by: CSM on December 22, 2013, 10:53:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 21, 2013, 02:21:38 PM
it is indeed the three sheet from a famous collection

So nice of you to say that about my collection Rich!
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Post by: CSM on December 22, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 21, 2013, 11:34:26 AM
Good catch... I had just glanced at it before I posted. I was thinking maybe a daybill as the portrait didn't look to be the same, ahem, caliber as the 1-sheet. :)

If it is indeed a 3-sheet would that make it the earliest known?  I don't recall ever seeing a 1st release or '38 re-release 3-sheet.

Probably the closest we will ever get:

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1.jpg)
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Post by: rdavey26 on December 22, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
 jawdrop very nice Chris. Wish I could find something like that in an attic somewhere.
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Post by: crowzilla on December 22, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 21, 2013, 02:21:38 PM
it is indeed the three sheet from a famous collection

Yep. This was from John McLaughlin's collection - a very prominent poster and comic collector.  When he passed away a few years ago it was probably the item from his collection that was most asked about, but the family could not find it for several years.
Thankfully, it has been located.  Personally I still like the 1-sheet better, but no doubt this is a beautiful piece.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 23, 2013, 09:35:47 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the added info.  That makes more sense why it's selling now.  I was thinking, if this was mine, there is no way I'd sell it right now unless I absolutely had to.  IMO the Uni Horror market seems pretty soft lately... 

Someone might pick this one up for a bargain!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 23, 2013, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 23, 2013, 09:35:47 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the added info.  That makes more sense why it's selling now.  I was thinking, if this was mine, there is no way I'd sell it right now unless I absolutely had to.  IMO the Uni Horror market seems pretty soft lately... 

Someone might pick this one up for a bargain!

not just Unihorror Matt, all sci-fi horror with very few exceptions has been soft.

it is one area where Heritage has soft results last month, and that other auction was even a little softer for the most part (which I'm surprised nobody talked about).
You get past the 10% of items that may have done well and the rest really fell flat
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Post by: CSM on December 24, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
It can just keep on getting squishier and squishier as far as I am concerned - might give some collectors a chance to actually join that game
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Post by: rdavey26 on December 24, 2013, 01:40:03 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 24, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
It can just keep on getting squishier and squishier as far as I am concerned - might give some collectors a chance to actually join that game
Totally agree
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 24, 2013, 01:46:18 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 24, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
It can just keep on getting squishier and squishier as far as I am concerned - might give some collectors a chance to actually join that game

it ebbs and flows. the mistake of hobbying is when you believe all posters should have a static price schedule. Though this exists in comic books, the field is manipulated. Coins prices go up & down. Stamps also, though stamps seems to be in a serious decline as a hobby because many younger folks have never used a stamp so they have no nostalgia for it. We are better off in a hobby where the market reflects true prices being sold and it's a big reason movie poster investors do not exist for the most part
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Post by: Zorba on December 24, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 24, 2013, 12:38:36 AM
It can just keep on getting squishier and squishier as far as I am concerned - might give some collectors a chance to actually join that game

 thumbup
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 25, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on December 22, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
Yep. This was from John McLaughlin's collection - a very prominent poster and comic collector.  When he passed away a few years ago it was probably the item from his collection that was most asked about, but the family could not find it for several years.
Thankfully, it has been located.  Personally I still like the 1-sheet better, but no doubt this is a beautiful piece.


So James Gresham refers to "the three big horror collectors of today" in his 2007 book "Children of the Night." Who are (or were) they? Kirk Hammett I assume is one....
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 25, 2013, 03:20:57 PM
Haggard is probably one
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Post by: CSM on December 25, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 25, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
So James Gresham refers to "the three big horror collectors of today" in his 2007 book "Children of the Night." Who are (or were) they? Kirk Hammett I assume is one....

Ron Borst, Forrest J. Ackerman etc...
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Post by: lynaron on December 25, 2013, 04:07:53 PM
Certainly wasn't little old me  ;).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 25, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 25, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
Ron Borst, Forrest J. Ackerman etc...

Ackerman would certainly not have been considered that at that point in time Chris. His collection of great horror had been cannibalized for may years by this time
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Post by: CSM on December 25, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 25, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Ackerman would certainly not have been considered that at that point in time Chris. His collection of great horror had been cannibalized for may years by this time

Yeah I missed the "today" i.e. 2007 qualifier
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Post by: crowzilla on December 25, 2013, 11:40:20 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 25, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
So James Gresham refers to "the three big horror collectors of today" in his 2007 book "Children of the Night." Who are (or were) they? Kirk Hammett I assume is one....

In the context of what he was referencing there (Dracula), he would be talking about Kirk, Ron Borst, and Todd Feiertag.
Most people would have no problem adding Steve Fishler to that group since he has two different Dracula one-sheets as well as a lobby set, but he is not nearly as active as the other three.
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Post by: guest8 on January 08, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
Woohoo .. some sweet British quads on emovie this week!! ;)

(http://snag.gy/1LpfK.jpg)
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on January 16, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRIVE-CineMasterpieces-UK-BRITISH-QUAD-RYAN-GOSLING-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-2011-/181287372437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3591c695

Seriously? That's nearly £460 for a 2 year old poster.

Why is this tolerated when other sellers are singled out for overpricing and generally taking the piss out of buyers?
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Post by: wonka on January 16, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
Quote from: Hallucination Generation on January 16, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRIVE-CineMasterpieces-UK-BRITISH-QUAD-RYAN-GOSLING-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-2011-/181287372437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3591c695

Seriously? That's nearly £460 for a 2 year old poster.

Why is this tolerated when other sellers are singled out for overpricing and generally taking the piss out of buyers?


New here?
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Post by: Tob on January 16, 2014, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: Hallucination Generation on January 16, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRIVE-CineMasterpieces-UK-BRITISH-QUAD-RYAN-GOSLING-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-2011-/181287372437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3591c695

Seriously? That's nearly £460 for a 2 year old poster.

Why is this tolerated when other sellers are singled out for overpricing and generally taking the piss out of buyers?


I think one sold on US ebay fairly recently for $350 or something daft so I suppose it sets the price higher for particular dealers. Oh and this one sold for even more (apparently)...http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,237.msg134476/topicseen.html#msg134476
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Post by: Hallucination Generation on January 16, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: wonka on January 16, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
New here?

?
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Post by: Silhouette on January 16, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: wonka on January 16, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
New here?

hehe.

Two word: Capitalism rocks!
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Post by: CSM on January 16, 2014, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on January 16, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
hehe.

Two word: Capitalism rocks!

Correction - Cinemastercapitalism rocks!  Just ask Mr. Lieberman...
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Post by: Ari on January 17, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
Quote from: Hallucination Generation on January 16, 2014, 06:21:51 PM
?

he has been hassled and teased for years and years for his pricing on every movie poster forum ever.
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Post by: CSM on January 17, 2014, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 17, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
he has been hassled and teased for years and years for his pricing on every movie poster forum ever.

And he just rolls along in the Cinemastermobile raking in his Cinemasterdough on $555 Pretty Womans...

At some point we have to extend some small measure of respect
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Post by: Ari on January 17, 2014, 11:45:26 PM
I bet he smokes cubans.
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Post by: CSM on January 17, 2014, 11:46:42 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 17, 2014, 11:45:26 PM
I bet he smokes cubans.

Real ones...or at least ones that cost as much as real ones ;)
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Post by: Ari on January 17, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
he probably gets them rolled inside pretty woman posters.
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Post by: CSM on January 18, 2014, 12:19:26 AM
Yep - there's no other way
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Post by: 50s on January 18, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
A raquel welch sketch for Ted to drool over

http://www.ebay.it/itm/BOZZETTO-SKETCH-ORIGINAL-ART-MOVIE-MARO-UN-MILIONE-DI-ANNI-FA-RAQUEL-WELCH-/171217213751?hash=item27dd575937

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Post by: Harry Caul on January 18, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
One can only imagine what the original Chantrell would sell for today -- if it hadn't been destroyed to make the later double bill poster!
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on January 18, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
Claims to be restored by studio C....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1933-KING-KONG-MOVIE-POSTER-INSERT-14-X-22-/111258092063?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item19e77fc21f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-VINTAGE-1933-KING-KONG-MOVIE-POSTER-INSERT-14-X-22-/111258092063?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item19e77fc21f)
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Post by: Bruce on January 18, 2014, 09:04:05 PM
See the differences BESIDES the trimming:

(http://emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA131201/550/in_king_kong_pbacked_LA00741_L.jpg) (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/UbIAAOxygPtS11Vi/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 18, 2014, 09:35:20 PM
the listing says "It was sent to New York and the restoration work was done by highly regarded Studio C, now JM Restoration"

JM Restoration is Jaime Mendez NOT Studio C
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 18, 2014, 09:40:24 PM
Yes, I saw this yesterday and did a comparison.  It's very similar but the building details are missing.  Is this a fake or some kind of jumbo lobby card (14"x22") or just heavily restored?

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/KK-insert.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on January 18, 2014, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 18, 2014, 09:04:05 PM
See the differences BESIDES the trimming:

faded, spray painted lower section, and rewritten credits, right side inch re sprayed


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Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2014, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 18, 2014, 09:35:20 PM
the listing says "It was sent to New York and the restoration work was done by highly regarded Studio C, now JM Restoration"

JM Restoration is Jaime Mendez NOT Studio C

And neither Studio C nor JM Restoration (Jaime Mendez) are located IN New York, anyhow. Both are in southern Calif.

That being said, I wonder who "actually" did this restoration?

Red flags lurk here, methinks. pcorn
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on January 18, 2014, 11:52:31 PM
Several things.... The odd choice of the wording "insert"... 14 x 22 would be an untrimmed window card...roughly 14 x 17 with the top imprint trimmed off...Diane at studio c would have (most likely) advised adding the blank white imprint area during restoration....there is no RKO information in the bottom like other 1933 RKO window cards....it doesn't look like a trimmed section of an insert with a lot of restoration..all in all way too many red flags

On a side note...I have early RKO jumbo lobby cards and I don't think I have ever heard or seen any jumbo lobby cards for a 1933 RKO film....did King Kong have a jumbo lobby card set?...I have seen quite a few 14 x 17 JLC's  from 1929-1931 also 1935 and after...but not a 1933 jumbo from RKO
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Post by: CSM on January 19, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
Mystifying - seller should probably send it to John Davis for the extra level of authenticity...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 19, 2014, 01:36:53 AM
Quote from: CSM on January 19, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
seller should probably send it to John Davis for the extra level of authenticity...

 laugh1
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Post by: Silhouette on January 19, 2014, 01:47:02 AM
Quote from: CSM on January 19, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
Mystifying - seller should probably send it to John Davis for the extra level of authenticity...

Yeah, perhaps and outside lift on the side of the building...?
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Post by: kovacs01 on January 19, 2014, 02:22:50 AM
Last time I talked to Professor Powers, he told me he was working on a King Kong resto.  So, its probably legit.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 19, 2014, 01:29:06 PM
Because the only info printed on the lower left margin is "Country of Origin USA" and with NO RKO wording or logo, anywhere, I wondered if this could have been a piece that was produced much later, using the upper artwork from the original insert and it being revamped/reworked to the WC size, omitting the images from the lower half, hence the simpler, blue background, in that lower section.

What is odd, tho, and what caught my eye, is that the lettering of the actor's names, Cooper's name and Schoedsack's name have all been redone (redrawn, if you will), on the mystery piece. Take a look. Even the name Merian, looks to be slightly smaller on the ebay piece. And the spelling of Schoedsack on the ebay version almost appears to have been spelled SchoeOsack, so someone was a little lax in making the capital letter "D" (as compared to the insert).

Question is: why was all the lettering redone?

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/fonts_zps6598864f.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/fonts2_zps80fa256d.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on January 19, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
Another FORBIDDEN PLANET US OS to appear on the horizon. Looks to be in Great, unrestored condition, too.

BIN: only $16,000.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forbidden-Planet-Original-Movie-Poster-/171221907482?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27dd9ef81a

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/FP_zps05de05e4.jpg)
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Post by: guest4251 on January 19, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
I think the KK is a modified insert??

Dario.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 19, 2014, 02:25:50 PM
Here's a GIF showing the dramatic changes to the buildings, can't be explained solely by fading:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/KK-animated.gif)

The 1938 insert also lacks details in the nearby buildings:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/King%20Kong%20%281933%20US%20insert%29%20%281956rr%29.jpeg)
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Post by: Bruce on January 19, 2014, 03:35:50 PM
That's not R38
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 19, 2014, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 19, 2014, 03:35:50 PM
That's not R38

Yes but "what" is it? Since the 1938 insert lost some of the building details of the 1933 insert, it is possible that this mystery Ebay "insert" is some kind of re-release poster or even commercial poster?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 19, 2014, 04:05:11 PM
1) It could be a partial insert that has been heavily restored to look like a window card. heavily overpainted.
2) it could be a complete fake created in the famous Haggard poster scandal or some other fake creation

whatever it is, clearly collectors should steer clear of the item

and the insert you showed is the 1956R
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 19, 2014, 05:45:21 PM
Well, I'll ask Mendez himself what happened.  Maybe he'll respond.
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Post by: CSM on January 19, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
If anyone is serious about that King Kong, they should ask the seller for pics of it prior to restoration.  This would certainly explain exactly what it is.

Of course, conveniently, their existence will likely be denied...

Seems clear whatever is going on it's been made to "look" like a Window Card
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Post by: erik1925 on January 19, 2014, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 19, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
If anyone is serious about that King Kong, they should ask the seller for pics of it prior to restoration.  This would certainly explain exactly what it is.

Of course, conveniently, their existence will likely be denied...

Seems clear whatever is going on it's been made to "look" like a Window Card

The other thing I noticed in the Ebay ad, was how determined the seller was to show (and state) that restoration was done, saying he/she had the receipt, etc. It almost struck me as "overkill," in a way. But again, everyone's sales approach is different, so that may just be his/her method.

I would like to know who did the work, since the 2 companies mentioned, are not one in the same.

It would be interesting, too, as you mentioned, Chris, to see if any pre-restoration pics do exist. Either of the 2 restorers mentioned (in the ad), would have snapped an image or 2, prior to work being done, to document the "work in progress."



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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 19, 2014, 05:45:21 PM
Well, I'll ask Mendez himself what happened.  Maybe he'll respond.

Following up on this Mendez emailed me and said that "this poster was trimmed and I added the bottom border and airbrushed it."

You can believe it or not. I can say that I've sent him a couple of posters for restoration and didn't have any issues.

We all know Gresham accused Mendez of forging Haggard's fakes (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/movies/26posters.html), but in the end Gresham dropped his civil lawsuit against Mendez and - as far as I know - Mendez was never criminally indicted, although according to Sean he cut a deal with the prosecutor to avoid being charged.

In the Gresham case "photographs of original posters [were] fixed to original lobby card material and airbrushed to make them appear real."

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Post by: jedgerley on January 20, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
King kong Insert
I asked for prerestoration photos here is the response
Hi thanks for comment. It's so much easier to talk over the phone than to write out why I don't have it. I wish I did have before shots of King Kong. I kick myself for not being able to find any. My moms storage was auctioned off accidently along w most family photos. Horrible. I thought for sure restoration company would have done before and after. I spoke to him on the phone he said he didn't have any photos. It has been almost 8 years since restoral.I have receipt of work.I have names of persons involved. And I have spoke to them in past 3 weeks. They remember it well. . I truly do not ever remember there being anything in bottom left corner like the insert that sold in December for 36k had. Mom found it in 60s. I.had money to correctly clean restore and preserve in 2006. Then too scared to hang as i thought it would get stolen. Anyway. If you have questions or would like to speak to me I am home today. xxx-xxx-xxxx. Would love to speak to you. Monica
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Post by: Silhouette on January 20, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on January 20, 2014, 03:00:54 PM
It has been almost 8 years since restoral.

8 years since the restoration huh? About the same time as other valuable ones were being restored by the same person, no wonder there is no evidence photos
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 19, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
(re: pre-restoration photos) Of course, conveniently, their existence will likely be denied...


Yes I am quoting myself  ;D ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 20, 2014, 03:46:15 PM
#1 I wouldn't buy anything that Jaime supposedly restored in that time period
#2 I wouldn't trust Jaime at this point in time no matter what the issue
#3 I wouldn't use Jaime's services today if he was the last poster restorer on the face of the Earth
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Too bad SleazeBay blocked communications with winners of auctions.  The winner should send it off to MPGrading.com to get it figured out.
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Too bad SleazeBay blocked communications with winners of auctions.  The winner should send it off to MPGrading.com to get it figured out.

Still hasn't reached the reserve with 7 hours to go
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 20, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
The winner should send it off to MPGrading.com to get it figured out.

 laugh1

that's some pretty good comedy also
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Post by: Bruce on January 20, 2014, 09:09:10 PM
After looking over all the evidence and images, my best guess is that it is a 1956 trimmed insert that had the words over Kong airbrushed out, and the bottom lettering entirely redone with a new bottom background.

If this is correct, I would sell it to the high bidder!
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2014, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 20, 2014, 09:09:10 PM
After looking over all the evidence and images, my best guess is that it is a 1956 trimmed insert that had the words over Kong airbrushed out, and the bottom lettering entirely redone with a new bottom background.

If this is correct, I would sell it to the high bidder!

It can't be the 1956 insert as the main image cuts out part of the hand and shoulder:

(http://emovieposter.com//images/transparencies/550/ScanE706_20121113_114417.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 20, 2014, 09:09:10 PM
After looking over all the evidence and images, my best guess is that it is a 1956 trimmed insert that had the words over Kong airbrushed out, and the bottom lettering entirely redone with a new bottom background.

If this is correct, I would sell it to the high bidder!

No way Jose:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/KK-animated2.gif)
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Post by: Bruce on January 20, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
Then maybe it is from a different re-release. How would the background change SO much if it was from 1933?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 20, 2014, 09:44:37 PM
Maybe this guy could try a little bit harder?

It's STUNNING!

It's HUGE!

It's LARGE!

It's VERY RARE!

It has NEVER BEEN HUNG!

It's UNCUT!

It's RARE AS ROCKING HORSE SHIT!!!

It's AMAZING!

It's TWO POSTERS IN ONE!

It's NEAR MINT!

It's a CORKER!

YOU WON'T SEE THIS AGAIN!!!

It's VERY LARGE!

GRAB THIS IF YOU CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it has something to do with the 50+ pictures of Cleopatra below!!!!

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/Cleo1.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-01/Cleo2.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on January 20, 2014, 09:53:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/nyrKa9Hk4zM
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 20, 2014, 10:22:18 PM
who cares what the Kong piece is.. ultimately, if it isn't a complete fake, it also isn't a real KK window card

I don't know what a real one looks like. Maybe one doesn't exist, but it would be unlikely to be formatted so because even when I have seen full image window cards, the upper part of the image is still open.

The fact that Jaime was involved in the piece - and states so in his response to Mel - would automatically make me move on.

at the very best it is a heavily restored portion of an insert
at worst it is a complete fake

if it was truly real, any one of the major players would be seriously involved in bidding and clearly, with a bid in the $2000 range, no one believes it is real..

I would think that even an unrestored top half of an insert would be worth more than $2k
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Post by: guest4185 on January 20, 2014, 10:39:34 PM
I don't think I would bid on that Kong, even if I could afford it
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Post by: guest4251 on January 20, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
This Frankenstein/thing? what ever it is? should have come with some documentation stuck on the back! Stating the obvious, but not so obvious for so many.

If that was my creations being sold right now on eBay as a rare original, I'll be freaking out right now, seriously!

Best,
dario.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 20, 2014, 10:44:00 PM
Quote from: vintagemovieart on January 20, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
This Frankenstein/thing? what ever it is? should have come with some documentation stuck on the back! Stating the obvious, but not so obvious for so many.

If that was my creations being sold right now on eBay as a rare original, I'll be freaking out right now, seriously!

Best,
dario.


Right, but we were talking Jaime.

 :P
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Post by: jedgerley on January 21, 2014, 12:04:45 AM
Look whats back!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/Photo%20Jan%2020%2C%2011%2059%2025%20PM.png)
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Post by: brude on January 23, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: 50s on January 18, 2014, 12:53:36 AM
A raquel welch sketch for Ted to drool over

http://www.ebay.it/itm/BOZZETTO-SKETCH-ORIGINAL-ART-MOVIE-MARO-UN-MILIONE-DI-ANNI-FA-RAQUEL-WELCH-/171217213751?hash=item27dd575937



I'm a-droolin.
It sure is a beauty.


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 27, 2014, 03:10:26 AM
in the Heritage weekly auction started today they have an absolutely fantastic rare poster

1944 French Double Grande for the Adventures of Baron Munchausen

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161405&lotNo=52009

if I was still collecting this type of stuff I'd be all over it
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Post by: CSM on January 27, 2014, 10:29:34 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 27, 2014, 03:10:26 AM
in the Heritage weekly auction started today they have an absolutely fantastic rare poster

1944 French Double Grande for the Adventures of Baron Munchausen

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161405&lotNo=52009

if I was still collecting this type of stuff I'd be all over it

So does Thierry hate this one twice as much?
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Post by: crowzilla on January 27, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 27, 2014, 03:10:26 AM
in the Heritage weekly auction started today they have an absolutely fantastic rare poster

1944 French Double Grande for the Adventures of Baron Munchausen

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161405&lotNo=52009

if I was still collecting this type of stuff I'd be all over it

That's a horrible rendering of John Neville.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 29, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on January 21, 2014, 12:04:45 AM
Look whats back!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/Photo%20Jan%2020%2C%2011%2059%2025%20PM.png)

I just looked on ebay to see if this drummed up any interest, the second time around, and I don't see it listed anymore. It's not even in the Completed/Sold items, when I did an advanced search.

Could it have been withdrawn?  eyeroll

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Post by: Tob on February 05, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
I spotted this German A1 Apocalypse Now Brando last night and thought about a bid - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231147667604?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

But after Googling, I found info on Mel's excellent site - http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Apocalypse_Now_German.html

And some info from Wolfgang (www.kinoart.net) and Helmut on MOPO - https://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/msg53700.html

...both which suggest this is a reprint (it appears to be missing the white printing 'defect' near the bottom). I thought I'd post in case anyone else is watching and also to say many thanks to Mel, Helmut and Wolfgang.
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Post by: Charlie on February 05, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Mel I found a poster for you...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3291701
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Post by: Mirosae on February 05, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
I actually like the poster.. :)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 05, 2014, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 05, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Mel I found a poster for you...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3291701

I consigned that one as part of the "photo montage" purge.

By the way steer clear of EMP's upcoming travel poster auction next Tuesday if you know what's good for you.  Imma get me a bunch of them....
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Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
A piece for 1939's Hunchback of Notre Dame. Unfolded, it measures 12 x 25.5 inches. On the front bottom border it is dated December 9, 1939.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunchback-of-Notre-Dame-Theatre-Program-Sheet-1939-Original-/221369308756?hash=item338aa39654

Starting Bid: $4100.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HunchbackA_zpsd3ac0461.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/hunchbackb_zps158e74d6.jpg)

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Post by: Bruce on February 06, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
Those are three magazine pages. I'd say they are overpriced by between 40 and 100 times.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
Printed in the center of the front, bottom border, is "Motion Picture Herald."  But the size seemed too large for a typical herald.

Bruce, did they ever make them in this larger size, for big spectacle films?
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Post by: oldposterho on February 07, 2014, 09:56:22 AM
The "Motion Picture Herald" was actually a movie magazine like Variety or the Hollywood Reporter.  Definitely magazine pages.

--Peter
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 09:59:30 AM
It is a magazine that only went to theater owners. The entire magazine with this ad might sell for $50 or so.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2014, 12:31:12 PM
Thanks for the info, guys.

 cheers

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Post by: paul waines on February 07, 2014, 12:59:40 PM
First rate info Bruce and Peter. happy1
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
The same seller with the Hunchback piece above, also has this little item listed, for Frankenstein. The dimensions (3 x 4.5 inches) make it sound like a small flier or handbill of sorts, announcing the upcoming showing at the Ritz Theatre.

BIN: $4900.00  :o

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/frankie_zps97abbbff.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frankenstein-Ritz-Theatre-Ticket-Program-Minnesota-1932-Original-/281261356844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417c7bb72c
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 07, 2014, 01:57:33 PM
The same seller with the Hunchback piece above, also has this little item listed, for Frankenstein. The dimensions (3 x 4.5 inches) make it sound like a small flier or handbill of sorts, announcing the upcoming showing at the Ritz Theatre.

BIN: $4900.00  :o

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/frankie_zps97abbbff.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Frankenstein-Ritz-Theatre-Ticket-Program-Minnesota-1932-Original-/281261356844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417c7bb72c

This is a local theater herald created locally for a theater than showed the movie either in 1932, or the next time when January 24th fell on a Sunday. I would think it might sell for $50 to $150 in a no reserve auction.
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Post by: CSM on February 07, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
This is a local theater herald created locally for a theater than showed the movie either in 1932, or the next time when January 24th fell on a Sunday. I would think it might sell for $50 to $150 in a no reserve auction.

Does that include the BP?
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
This is a local theater herald created locally for a theater than showed the movie either in 1932, or the next time when January 24th fell on a Sunday.

The next time January 24th was a Sunday would have been 1960, then 1988, and coming soon...2016.
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
The next time January 24th was a Sunday would have been 1960, then 1988, and coming soon...2016.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

There were "Sunday January 24ths" in 1937, 1943, 1954, 1960 and many more since.
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Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

There were "Sunday January 24ths" in 1937, 1943, 1954, 1960 and many more since.

I apologize. I shouldn't stoop to your level. If I could delete the "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" comment, I would, but I can't.
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2014, 07:00:06 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
I apologize. I shouldn't stoop to your level. If I could delete the "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" comment, I would, but I can't.

Stoop? What sort of comment is that, as if that wasn't a low stoop and then some? Maybe you can ask the mods to delete your comment - you usually do.

I looked up to find when Sunday 24ths were, I used this as my reference: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/repeating.html?year=1932 - simple error, world hasn't come to an end. Right or wrong my post was was hardly an attack on you, and no stoop intended.

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Post by: 50s on February 07, 2014, 07:18:49 PM
We all have our own level. 5% of us need to stoop a lot more than the rest


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Post by: CSM on February 07, 2014, 09:45:05 PM
It's getting spicy!!
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Until my next post I will be greatly curtailing my posts in here...
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Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2014, 10:14:31 PM
"So let it be written..... So let it be done!"

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 08, 2014, 03:43:02 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 07, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Until my next post I will be greatly curtailing my posts in here...

are you posting again yet?
I wanna see how long this hissy fit will last
 :P
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 08, 2014, 05:40:51 AM
This lobby card set will probably blow up and double in price the last day....there are two really important lobby card sets from Harold Lloyd at his peak....Safety Last and The Freshman...

The card with Lloyd (blue sweater) and Jobyna ralston clearly shows his prosthetic right hand and glove which he cleverly hid during most films...I am a little surprised how obvious it is in this shot...it almost glistens  because of the light

Forget the fact that the title card is great and that Lloyd is featured prominently on several cards...here is a true Unicorn in every sense of the word...good luck finding another in ANY condition...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harold-Lloyd-THE-FRESHMAN-MINT-complete-lobby-card-set-1925-silent-comedy-/221367019361?&maxbid=1600&autorefresh=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harold-Lloyd-THE-FRESHMAN-MINT-complete-lobby-card-set-1925-silent-comedy-/221367019361?&maxbid=1600&autorefresh=true)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2014, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on February 08, 2014, 05:40:51 AM
This lobby card set will probably blow up and double in price the last day....there are two really important lobby card sets from Harold Lloyd at his peak....Safety Last and The Freshman...

The card with Lloyd (blue sweater) and Jobyna ralston clearly shows his prosthetic right hand and glove which he cleverly hid during most films...I am a little surprised how obvious it is in this shot...it almost glistens  because of the light

Forget the fact that the title card is great and that Lloyd is featured prominently on several cards...here is a true Unicorn in every sense of the word...good luck finding another in ANY condition...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harold-Lloyd-THE-FRESHMAN-MINT-complete-lobby-card-set-1925-silent-comedy-/221367019361?&maxbid=1600&autorefresh=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harold-Lloyd-THE-FRESHMAN-MINT-complete-lobby-card-set-1925-silent-comedy-/221367019361?&maxbid=1600&autorefresh=true)

As a small, follow up, post- post script, this beautiful LC set ended up selling for $1768.57.



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Post by: wonka on February 11, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Does this even constitute the definition of a 'poster' at this point?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951)
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Post by: Zorba on February 11, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 11, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Does this even constitute the definition of a 'poster' at this point?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951)

 ;D

Sure! Looks like a classic example of a one third 3-sheet.
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Post by: wonka on February 11, 2014, 10:13:26 PM
Quote from: Zorba on February 11, 2014, 10:11:58 PM
;D

Sure! Looks like a classic example of a one third 3-sheet.

One third is extremely generous. I would give it 1/25th at best...
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Post by: Louie D. on February 11, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 11, 2014, 10:13:26 PM
One third is extremely generous. I would give it 1/25th at best...

Just enough for Bruce to get his watermark on it.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2014, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on February 11, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
Just enough for Bruce to get his watermark on it.

 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 11, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
that's only a poster when someone else has the upper 3/4's and needs the bottom
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Post by: CSM on February 11, 2014, 11:41:54 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on February 11, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
Just enough for Bruce to get his watermark on it.

 clap
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Post by: CSM on February 11, 2014, 11:42:48 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 11, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Does this even constitute the definition of a 'poster' at this point?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3301951)

Brutal - except to that one person who only collects 1/25th movie posters
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 12, 2014, 07:10:14 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 11, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
that's only a poster when someone else has the upper 3/4's and needs the bottom

Aren't you the one selling a Rear Window three sheet poster painting?

http://movieposterbid.com/index.php?option=com_bfauction_plus&task=bid&cid=110209&Itemid=0

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/sale_294_246_zpscc4bdad5.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/sale_294_246_zpscc4bdad5.jpg.html)
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Post by: guest8 on February 12, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Bruce posts items like that for sale but gives me shit for sending him my GI Joe character posters!?! :P
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Post by: CSM on February 12, 2014, 09:58:39 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 12, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Bruce posts items like that for sale but gives me shit for sending him my GI Joe character posters!?! :P

 hitself
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Post by: wonka on February 12, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on February 12, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Bruce posts items like that for sale but gives me shit for sending him my GI Joe character posters!?! :P

Thought the same thing.

Mel wins the "Best Use of the Strikethrough' award, too.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 03:29:09 PM
the bottom third of the poster was recreated. Stated correctly. The remainder of the poster only has resto on the folds.

but it sure looks better than that other one - also with a recreated bottom third - that was sold not very long ago at all.
http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/archive_image.php?id=13519011

too bad the restorer did such a lousy job on that one

Here's a question for you Mel, did you also post that question when Bruce sold the other one back in December?

although, I will give you that you did point out that paint-by-numbers Seven Year Itch one sheet he sold back in June
http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/archive_image.php?id=2498540

that thing isn't a poster by any stretch of the imagination
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Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
It's interesting how two, 3-sheets from this great Hitch film not only have come up for auction just a couple months apart, but that both also had the bottom panel totally recreated. In looking at them side by side, it certainly appears that two different people did the bottom 1/3 re-creations. The far right image is a complete, original copy, for comparison:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/rw4_zpsa1cfddd5.jpg)
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Post by: Charlie on February 12, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
What is even harder to understand is why they didn't get high resolution prints made on decent paper and then just spray the border to match.
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Post by: wonka on February 12, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
Best part is how the artists 'recreated' the printing misalignment so many of these original examples have.

 uhno

Both examples shoulda been sold as the upper 2/3rds and then been done with it.
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Post by: CSM on February 12, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 12, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
What is even harder to understand is why they didn't get high resolution prints made on decent paper and then just spray the border to match.

EXACTLY
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 12, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
It's interesting how two, 3-sheets from this great Hitch film not only have come up for auction just a couple months apart, but that both also had the bottom panel totally recreated. In looking at them side by side, it certainly appears that two different people did the bottom 1/3 re-creations:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/RW_zpscd22772b.jpg)

yes it is an interesting factoid.
but there can be easy explanations for it

frequently the top or bottom 2/3 portion of a three sheet can be used as a 40x60 display and that's why frequently they are designed with all the credits in that portion of the poster. Clearly when one is used in this fashion, the other portion can easily get lost.

many western 3 sheets of the late 30's early 40's are done with a text-only portion so that the other portion can be used alone
Some East Side Kids posters are also done this way

regarding the restorations, it is clear that whomever did the restoration on the one sold in December was a talentless fool while the person who did the one I'm offering was at least an artist who only used the reproduced portion as a guide for him to base his work on.

what restorer you use for such work clearly makes a difference

by the way.. This poster was actually sent here back in August. The consignor and I agreed that the 3 restored 3 sheets he sent could wait until I get the monthly auctions running well and he sent me plenty of material to sell anyway. I could have sold it sooner, but we chose not to.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 12, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Agree. A  restorer can RUIN a poster   :-X
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: wonka on February 12, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
Both examples shoulda been sold as the upper 2/3rds and then been done with it.

I disagree Ben. The only comment I would have is why, as Charlie asks, a better resolution copy of the missing portion can't be obtained, but that could be an issue of no one willing to supply such an item, or that finding someone who actually has a full size scan is the issue.
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Post by: wonka on February 12, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
I disagree Ben. The only comment I would have is why, as Charlie asks, a better resolution copy of the missing portion can't be obtained, but that could be an issue of no one willing to supply such an item, or that finding someone who actually has a full size scan is the issue.

Of course you disagree, but my preference would be to have most of a original three sheet than a hybrid one. IMO.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:48:54 PM
personal preferences aside Ben, it isn't very saleable without the restoration

an excellent example of that would be the Invasion of the Body Snatchers incomplete 6 sheet that sold on ebay a few weeks back, for just $149.

all that was missing was the bottom left panel, which is all text.

granted, a top 2/3 of a Rear Window is displayable and the IOTBS 6sh missing a panel is not, but if the owner wants to make money, the solutions are obvious.

personally, I would just wait to see if I can find the missing piece and complete the poster. It's a rarity to be able to do so, but there is always that possibility.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:24:46 PM

regarding the restorations, it is clear that whomever did the restoration on the one sold in December was a talentless fool while the person who did the one I'm offering was at least an artist who only used the reproduced portion as a guide for him to base his work on.

what restorer you use for such work clearly makes a difference


Just curious, Rich (and not that you need to reveal a name/company on the board; I'm not asking that)- but did the consignor let you know who did the work? Or is that not usually discussed?

I've always been curious about this, when restored pieces are consigned. Is the restorer ever mentioned for an item sent in? Or are they just sent in, and described as "restored," "touched up" or "sections or areas have been re-created" with those specific areas pointed out in the paperwork or email?




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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 12, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
Just curious, Rich (and not that you need to reveal a name/company on the board; I'm not asking that)- but did the consignor let you know who did the work? Or is that not usually discussed?

I've always been curious about this, when restored pieces are consigned. Is the restorer ever mentioned for an item sent in? Or are they just sent in, and described as "restored," "touched up" or "sections or areas have been re-created" with those specific areas pointed out in the paperwork or email?

He didn't know. he had a biz partner (now excommunicated) who had sent out the posters for work and no receipts were available to research any info.
When he sent them, I didn't know what they were and I had to examine them closely as I thought they were fakes until I examined at which point I called him and said "so this one is a recreated bottom, this one is a recreated top" etc and he was happy to know that I was able to  make the determination because he did know and was testing me. He cited it as a reason to send me a larger consignment
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Post by: Bruce on February 12, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
It will be a great test to compare the final selling prices of two such similar posters.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 12, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
like lots of such posters where there is less support for a second copy after one has already been sold in a short time frame, the second one would rarely go for a matchable price, even if sold at the same venue.

of course, another question would be "which one is more likely to be resold soon"

I can't imagine the person who bought the first one with the God-awful restoration would be happy with it.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 12, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 12, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
What is even harder to understand is why they didn't get high resolution prints made on decent paper and then just spray the border to match.

You are correct sir.  This can be done relatively easily:

(1) Download the full-size image from Heritage (thank you Heritage for not obnoxiously watermarking images!):

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83340#Photo

(2) Crop to lower third

(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up (http://www.alienskin.com/BlowUp/) to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.

(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.
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Post by: CSM on February 12, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 12, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
You are correct sir.  This can be done relatively easily:

(1) Download the full-size image from Heritage (thank you Heritage for not obnoxiously watermarking images!):

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83340#Photo

(2) Crop to lower third

(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up (http://www.alienskin.com/BlowUp/) to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.

(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.

Was this your intended solution for the Where Danger Lives three sheet?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 12, 2014, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 12, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
Was this your intended solution for the Where Danger Lives three sheet?

Yep. Most of the artwork was on the original top 2/3 and the missing 1/3 bottom was mostly text.
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Post by: crowzilla on February 13, 2014, 01:19:38 AM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 12, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up (http://www.alienskin.com/BlowUp/) to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.
(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.

How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 13, 2014, 06:02:42 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 13, 2014, 01:19:38 AM
How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?


It's OK, especially from further back. I combined the half sheet and one sheet for TGFH using the process I described and here's the result:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PB220005.jpg)

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PB220004.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on February 13, 2014, 09:08:07 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 13, 2014, 01:19:38 AM
How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?


Has to be better than those Rear Window "artistic recreations"!
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Post by: rdavey26 on February 13, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
Here is a very cool piece by Durieux up for auction. It is for a charitable cause.
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/251447107237
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/XZMAAOxyRhBS983u/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 13, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 13, 2014, 09:08:07 AM
Has to be better than those Rear Window "artistic recreations"!

not the one I'm selling, though the previous one sold in Dec sure is an ugly dog
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Post by: CSM on February 14, 2014, 12:09:57 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 13, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
not the one I'm selling, though the previous one sold in Dec sure is an ugly dog

Rich, in my opinion, while the one you are selling is much improved over the Dec copy, it's still a long way from an accurate facsimile of the original

Just look at them all side-by-side
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 14, 2014, 12:37:09 AM
did you read my description in the listing by any chance?
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Post by: CSM on February 14, 2014, 12:41:42 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 14, 2014, 12:37:09 AM
did you read my description in the listing by any chance?

Yessir - there was no implication that you were misrepresenting it in any way

I just have the opinion that the recreation could have been done far better.  I also imagine whoever did the work charged a pretty penny as well...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 14, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
"better" is a matter of perspective.

clearly the restoration done on this copy is considerably better than the copy sold by emp and I can't imagine what it would look like if Posterfix did the work.
it also looks better than the blow-up as Mel suggests unless you're never going to look at the poster up close because only a high-res same-size scan (or photograph from a cmos element hi-res camera) can produce a proper result

at the same time, it isn't being pushed as anything more than the "poor man's" treasure.
Everyone can't afford to spend $7500 or more for one so this becomes an affordable alternative,  and certainly it would sell for more than if it was just the 2/3 panel unmounted.

let us not forget that collecting is not a one-size fits all situation and movie poster collectors have a greater variety of acceptable solutions than comic book collectors.
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Post by: kovacs01 on February 14, 2014, 02:18:03 AM
There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.

Behold:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6UChgb3hdWg/Uv3CxAPW60I/AAAAAAAAG8M/nbBz_yUz7jo/s800/jesus-christ-fresco.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 14, 2014, 02:19:58 AM
This is truly shocking and beyond belief, every time I see it.

Ay carumba!!!!

 :o
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 14, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
I understand she took lessons at PosterFixit
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Post by: Mirosae on February 14, 2014, 07:55:29 AM
 Spanish lady and posters? Not to be trusted I say!  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 14, 2014, 12:45:41 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on February 14, 2014, 02:18:03 AM
There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.



Maybe this same woman did that other RW 3sheet that was auctioned. Her trademark, black, beady eye retouches are the giveaway.  ;D

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/spain_zpsbd876b74.jpg)
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Post by: paul waines on February 14, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on February 14, 2014, 02:18:03 AM
There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.

Behold:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6UChgb3hdWg/Uv3CxAPW60I/AAAAAAAAG8M/nbBz_yUz7jo/s800/jesus-christ-fresco.jpg)


Quote from: erik1925 on February 14, 2014, 02:19:58 AM
This is truly shocking and beyond belief, every time I see it.

Ay carumba!!!!

 :o

I know, I too think the one on the left looks a bit like Bela... ;)
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Post by: paul waines on February 14, 2014, 01:29:10 PM
I wonder if Dave Knows this seller is using his name to confuse buyers…?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-TIME-MACHINE-Large-Film-Poster-40-x-27-Professionally-Folded-NEW-/251450637427?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3a8ba03c73
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Post by: erik1925 on February 14, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
And it's "professionally folded."  :P

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Post by: rdavey26 on February 14, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
I am sorry if I out someone that is watching this but I feel that it deserves to be mentioned as it is a rarity. Not in the greatest of shape
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131113920676?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Post by: Charlie on February 14, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Brace Yourself!  Quarterly "outing" rants to begin soon...
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 15, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
Showdown!  HA, EMP, and CMP are all auctioning Star Wars three sheets, all excellent condition.  Quien es mas macho?

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Showdown_zpsd8fde4f3.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/Showdown_zpsd8fde4f3.jpg.html)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 15, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
Dave: he consigns himself, he sells himself, he wins!
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on February 16, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
That is not really accurate. We rarely auction our own inventory at no reserve. Only 5 of our current auctions are ours, the rest are from our various clients.

Our true no reserve auctions generally perform as well as Heritage or Bruce when comparing apples to apples. Sometimes even better, and sometimes worse.

Our fixed price on site consignment program can't be beat though, by anyone (except maybe for an occasional wtf from Sotheby's or other auction). We can sell posters for double, even triple or more than what they usually sell for at auction.
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 16, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
I can attest to Dave's high prices for fixed priced consignments!  thumbup

And Dave, you seem to be getting some of your own WTF prices for auctions as well... case in point:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAIDERS-OF-THE-LOST-ARK-NO-RESERVE-CineMasterpieces-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1981-/181313304816?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a371d78f0

 :o

Together I paid $140 for rolled mint 81 and R82 posters! 
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Post by: paul waines on February 21, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
If you want Bullshit in a description try this listing..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171246337590?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648


He states two of these RE-RELEASE posters were on display at the Leicester Square Odeon for the Premier in 1953..  Ya, right. Would you buy a second hand car from this fellow.

It even states Burton back by popular demand. If anyone buys this they deserve it.



Just repeating this from the other section..
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Post by: Mirosae on February 22, 2014, 05:22:21 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 21, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
If you want Bullshit in a description try this listing..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171246337590?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648


He states two of these RE-RELEASE posters were on display at the Leicester Square Odeon for the Premier in 1953..  Ya, right. Would you buy a second hand car from this fellow.

It even states Burton back by popular demand. If anyone buys this they deserve it.



Just repeating this from the other section..

Thanks Paul..I am so grateful to you and others, it is very good that you guys share all this info. I don't like ebay that much, so it is helpful to know how best to keep out of these  moron1

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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 06:35:24 PM
In what year were magic markers first marketed widely to the public??

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3311815

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140218/550/belgian_casablanca_JC10129_L.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
the 50s - pourquoi?
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
the 50s - pourquoi?

Look at the poster - sure looks like whatever was written was done so in marker?  That would be hard to accomplish in 1947?
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Post by: 50s on February 22, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
I wonder why someone would guillotine it there?




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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
maybe the answer to all the questions above is at this link

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28899

you have to wonder where "20 years of research" are being used
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2014, 06:47:22 PM
Look at the poster - sure looks like whatever was written was done so in marker?  That would be hard to accomplish in 1947?

Are you sure the writing is from 1947?

Just saw this post

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 07:05:22 PM

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28899


So one has to admit the colours are far more vivid like the HA R60 one than the previous EMP R47s sold, although that said, this one is similar in vividness to that R60s: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/13721242.html

The rest: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/CASABLANCA%2520%2528%252742%2529/type/Belgian/archive.html

I have no idea but I note some were printed with maps on and other were not, perhaps the ones that are not are of a later date and the ones that are (given they would be likely the same print run) are the earlier ones? Logical supposition?


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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 07:05:22 PM
maybe the answer to all the questions above is at this link

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28899

you have to wonder where "20 years of research" are being used

At least that alleged 60s release has a partial stamp on it which gives it some level of authenticity (apart from the top snipe)
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 08:07:49 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Are you sure the writing is from 1947?

All these Belgian Casablancas (amongst other Belgian titles) have long worried me.  Yes, there were strict paper laws in Belgium which led to saving of many posters but there just seems to be way too many around in incredible condition with a convenient singularly neat fold across the middle. And not a tax stamp or other markings to be seen.  

David - of course I do not know if the writing is from 1947.  But that is the alleged approximate year of release of this poster.  However, just using "my senses" and seeing colourful marker used on the poster is a major red flag for me - which, in my opinion, should easily push the date of the poster into the 1960s and more likely even later (like the 1980s when many of the these Belgians were reprinted/reproduced/restruck whatever the case may be).  

Sure the argument could be made that it is a circa 1947 release printing that was stored and then used 15, 20, 40 years later but that, to me and hopefully most others, is overly ambitious reasoning...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 08:10:27 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
So one has to admit the colours are far more vivid like the HA R60 one than the previous EMP R47s sold, although that said, this one is similar in vividness to that R60s: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/13721242.html

Oh Yeah.. Spin sure to be coming.....

Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
I have no idea but I note some were printed with maps on and other were not, perhaps the ones that are not are of a later date and the ones that are (given they would be likely the same print run) are the earlier ones? Logical supposition?

that would be the obvious conclusion
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
I should point out, in fairness, that Bruce does raise concerns about the Belgian Casablanca's release date:

The poster offered here is NOT printed on the back of a map, but it is the small size Belgian that we have only seen on Belgian posters from during and right after World War II, but it is possible that the movie was re-released in the early 1950s, and that they printed the posters from the exact same plates, which would account for the smaller size. Please do not bid on this poster unless you can accept the uncertainty as to its year of origin

However, the point of my original post centres on the use of marker on the poster as a means to further support a release date well more recent than even the 1950s.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
I would say these posters and the one cited in David's post are all the same release as well as the one currently for sale

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/9334056.html

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/13488552.html

it would be my opinion that they are the same 1960s re-issue posters that Heritage explains the copy they sold is

what form will this spin take?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
Chris, marker can be placed there years after it's original printing, so by itself, it doesn't really say much.

however, what Heritage explains is a more plausible conclusion
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Post by: Charlie on February 22, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2014, 06:47:22 PM
Look at the poster - sure looks like whatever was written was done so in marker?  That would be hard to accomplish in 1947?

Lee Newman patented a felt-tipped marking pen in 1910.[3] In 1926 Benjamin Paskach patented a "fountain paintbrush"[4] as he called it which consisted of a sponge-tipped handle containing various paint colors. Markers of this sort began to be popularized with the sale of Sidney Rosenthal's Magic Marker which consisted of a glass tube of ink with a felt wick. By 1958 use of felt-tipped markers was commonplace for a variety of applications such as lettering, labeling, and creating posters.[5] The year 1962 brought the development of the modern fiber-tipped pen (in contrast to the marker, which generally has a thicker point) by Yukio Horie of the Tokyo Stationery Company.
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 08:47:23 PM
Quote from: Charlie on February 22, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
Lee Newman patented a felt-tipped marking pen in 1910.[3] In 1926 Benjamin Paskach patented a "fountain paintbrush"[4] as he called it which consisted of a sponge-tipped handle containing various paint colors. Markers of this sort began to be popularized with the sale of Sidney Rosenthal's Magic Marker which consisted of a glass tube of ink with a felt wick. By 1958 use of felt-tipped markers was commonplace for a variety of applications such as lettering, labeling, and creating posters.[5] The year 1962 brought the development of the modern fiber-tipped pen (in contrast to the marker, which generally has a thicker point) by Yukio Horie of the Tokyo Stationery Company.

Patented and marketed/salable are obviously far different.

But yes this is some of the research I had located as well.  So the earliest it could be is 1950s based on the marker alone...
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
Chris, marker can be placed there years after it's original printing, so by itself, it doesn't really say much.

however, what Heritage explains is a more plausible conclusion

True but is it logical that an original 1947/48 release would be utilized for a screening at a much later date for which the screening details were written in marker?

Plausible? Certainly.  Likely? Not in my opinion...

And Rich your HA link doesn't really provide anything further other than HA's blanket "This item was cataloged wrong and we are told is an early 1960s re-issue"

Is there another HA auction (or elsewhere) that gives credence to this statement?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2014, 08:51:56 PM
"This item was cataloged wrong and we are told is an early 1960s re-issue"

translation = "An expert relayed to us that we had this poster described incorrectly and that it is a 1960s re-issue"

at least that's the interpretation I think should be achieved
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Post by: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
I don't think the marker pen is evidence enough to say it is not from 1947 - could be coloured pencil, chalk/crayon could be anything - judging it on the pen mark is perhaps a little tough. I think the lack of the map on the back is probably stronger evidence, specially as one has comparison to the only other one previously sold with a map and there seems to be a vividness that is more in keeping with those recognised as a later date.

As I side note, personally I like to see a title as (R??) if the date is actually unconfirmed or unknown rather than leaving it to be discovered in the 'fine print'.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
As I side note, personally I like to see a title as (R??) if the date is actually unconfirmed or unknown rather than leaving it to be discovered in the 'fine print'.

that's not all David, the title of the listing is in BIG letters
An Original 1947 (from the first release of this movie in Belgium) Vintage Theatrical Folded Belgian Movie Poster (measures 10 3/4" x 15 1/4" [27 x 39 cm])

and then in small print
Please do not bid on this poster unless you can accept the uncertainty as to its year of origin.

if an eBay seller had the same text, I don't know one person on this forum who wouldn't be all over the double-speak

either the poster is an original release poster or it is not.
if you don't know, find out
if you can't find out, don't sell it until you can find out.

that's how I run my business and how I always have
I would think these are simple rules to follow for any dealer or collector
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 22, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
I don't think the marker pen is evidence enough to say it is not from 1947 - could be coloured pencil, chalk/crayon could be anything - judging it on the pen mark is perhaps a little tough. I think the lack of the map on the back is probably stronger evidence, specially as one has comparison to the only other one previously sold with a map and there seems to be a vividness that is more in keeping with those recognised as a later date.

As I side note, personally I like to see a title as (R??) if the date is actually unconfirmed or unknown rather than leaving it to be discovered in the 'fine print'.

It sure doesn't look like anything but a proper marker (not a pen, not a coloured pencil, not chalk and not a crayon)
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Post by: CSM on February 22, 2014, 10:58:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 22, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
translation = "An expert relayed to us that we had this poster described incorrectly and that it is a 1960s re-issue"

at least that's the interpretation I think should be achieved

By why accept the Heritage statement as canon when no further info is given?  At least Bruce has a little bit of reasoning and caution in his description (even if somewhat flawed)
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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:40:37 AM
It's not 40's, it's a late 50's early 60's release.

If you like the artwork just buy it, it's still an original poster just a re-release, and probably in better nick than one from the 40's would be anyway.

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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 05:07:40 AM
Quote from: paul waines on February 21, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
If you want Bullshit in a description try this listing..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171246337590?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648


He states two of these RE-RELEASE posters were on display at the Leicester Square Odeon for the Premier in 1953..  Ya, right. Would you buy a second hand car from this fellow.

It even states Burton back by popular demand. If anyone buys this they deserve it.



Just repeating this from the other section..


Well this fellow must check out APF, as he's changed his listing...

Still a bit expensive, but hey.  mind, I have one too, and I'm knocking my own. ;)
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Post by: Bruce on February 23, 2014, 06:46:19 AM
That Belgian Casablanca poster IS quite interesting!

As pointed out above, it WAS auctioned at Heritage as R60s in the 2007 July Signature Vintage Movie Poster Auction #665 (but only after it was in the catalog as "1940s First Post-War Release Belgian")

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28899#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=665&lotNo=28899#Photo)

However, an incredibly similar example (same printed top) was auctioned the following year in the 2008 November Signature Vintage Movie Poster Auction #695 and now it was back to being "1940s First Post-War Release Belgian"

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695&lotNo=85194#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695&lotNo=85194#Photo)

Two years later it was back again in the 2010 November Beverly Hills Signature Movie Poster Auction #7029 (this was the EXACT same poster as from two years before, (it is typical of posters that "sell" in Signature Auctions to come back again and again) and it was again "1940s First Post-War Release Belgian"

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7029&lotNo=83297#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7029&lotNo=83297#Photo)

So obviously their expert had a change of heart between 2007 and 2008 and decided it was NOT "R60s"!

They also auctioned a mapbacked one in their 2005 November Rare Movie Poster Auction #624 and it was "1947 First Post-War Release Belgian"

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=624&lotNo=28273#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=624&lotNo=28273#Photo)

That EXACT same poster came back in the 2009 March Signature Vintage Movie Poster Auction #7003 and it was again "1947 First Post-War Release Belgian"

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7003&lotNo=86439#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7003&lotNo=86439#Photo)

So it appears that in the eyes of their expert during the years 2005 through 2010, the mapbacked ones are from 1947 and are the first post-war release, but that the non-mapbacked ones are from the "1940s" and are the first post-war release (since they went back and forth on this depending on whether it is mapbacked or not, it is not a simple case of changing his mind).

They also sold a really curious example in their Sunday Internet Movie Poster Auction #161336 on Sep 8, 2013. This one LOOKS like the mapbacked ones, but no mention is made of that so it seems unlikely it could have been mapbacked, given the many other condition details they give. This one is "1947 First Post-War Release Belgian"

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161336&lotNo=53072#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161336&lotNo=53072#Photo)

Earlier in 2013 they sold an example that is clearly NOT mapbacked in their 2013 March 23 - 24 Vintage Movie Poster Signature Auction - Dallas #7072 and NOW the non mapbacked one has become "1947 First Post-War Release Belgian", so it appears that by this year their expert has now concluded that both mapbacked and non-mapbacked are all from exactly 1947.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7072&lotNo=83798#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7072&lotNo=83798#Photo)

Finally, here is the most curious one of all!

They sold one in their 2009 November Signature Vintage Movie Posters Auction #7014 that measures 14" X 22" (it has the same image size as the above, but has extra wide borders) and is identified as "R60s". So it appears that in the eyes of their expert there were mapbacked ones and non-mapbacked ones printed in 1947, and then the movie was re-released there in the 1960s, and at that time they printed new posters, but used the exact same art from the 1947 release, and just added large borders.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89905#Photo (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7014&lotNo=89905#Photo)

I will do more research on this, to see if I can find out more that either backs up that there were mapbacked ones and non-mapbacked ones printed in 1947, and then the movie was re-released there in the 1960s, or that contradicts it, and depending what I find I will either add to the current one I am auctioning, or close the auction and re-auction it at a later time with more detailed information.

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Post by: jedgerley on February 23, 2014, 06:57:56 AM
Can anyone offer any insight as to how this is possible?
"BIDDER 2" placed a max bid at 170 at 2:59 I watched it live and the auction was at 133.50 (one increment higher than the "BIDDER 1" max bid of 131) then less than a minute later he raised his max bid to 175 and now the auction is at 175!! seems like it is letting him compete with his own bids. 

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/texas2.PNG)
The same thing happened the day before with the same "BIDDER 2", but he retracted his bid so I messaged him asking him how he made it jump up like that and that I was very unhappy he revealed my reserve price.  He is German and his response was:
"sorry, this was provided. I wanted to finish, actually, another ordered"
 
Is ebay screwing up? or is this guy have a way to compete his his own bids?  And once you retract your bid I thought you werent allowed to bid again on that auction (unless ebay screwed up??) so confuzzled

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Post by: Ari on February 23, 2014, 07:03:51 AM
If it has a reserve I assume you can bid higher until you reach the reserve. Without a reserve it wouldn't go up but just make the max bid higher if other bid. Make sense? And yes it can let people "out" your reserve. But that shouldn't matter should it?
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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 08:10:56 AM
Also the bids are Proxy bids, so if he has placed a proxy of 170 it will only show the next bid up, which will be the 133.50 then next after his bid will be 175.
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Post by: jedgerley on February 23, 2014, 08:26:14 AM
Quote from: Ari on February 23, 2014, 07:03:51 AM
If it has a reserve I assume you can bid higher until you reach the reserve. Without a reserve it wouldn't go up but just make the max bid higher if other bid. Make sense? And yes it can let people "out" your reserve. But that shouldn't matter should it?

I don't believe that is the case, if it was the case when bidder #1 has a max bid of 131 it should have showed 131 but it stayed at 14 cents which is 5 cents higher than the very first opening bidder.  It didn't matter that he outed my reserve until the next day when he retracted his bid, that is when I wasn't happy, doesn't matter now because he again bid today. I have never seen anyone able to make the price jump by 40 bucks, it should only go up by the appropriate increment.
like i said when he placed a bid of 170 the price stood at 133.50 which is one $2.50 increment. but when he placed the next bid one minute later it jumped 40 bucks.
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Post by: jedgerley on February 23, 2014, 08:28:52 AM
Quote from: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 08:10:56 AM
Also the bids are Proxy bids, so if he has placed a proxy of 170 it will only show the next bid up, which will be the 133.50 then next after his bid will be 175.

So he is using a snipe program which has a different ip to raise it up? ok I see how that could work.  Makes sense now I guess.
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Post by: jayn_j on February 23, 2014, 08:29:01 AM
Quote from: Charlie on February 22, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
Lee Newman patented a felt-tipped marking pen in 1910.[3] In 1926 Benjamin Paskach patented a "fountain paintbrush"[4] as he called it which consisted of a sponge-tipped handle containing various paint colors. Markers of this sort began to be popularized with the sale of Sidney Rosenthal's Magic Marker which consisted of a glass tube of ink with a felt wick. By 1958 use of felt-tipped markers was commonplace for a variety of applications such as lettering, labeling, and creating posters.[5] The year 1962 brought the development of the modern fiber-tipped pen (in contrast to the marker, which generally has a thicker point) by Yukio Horie of the Tokyo Stationery Company.

My parents owned a photography studio in the 1950s.  Grandparents started it in 1906.  There was a felt tip pen in use there that I recall as early as 1955.  It was old then.  It was a large aluminum item an inch in diameter.  Each end had a different color, red and black covered by a screw on cover.  You filled each end with ink by unscrewing the tip, and you could also buy replacement tips.

So yes, felt tip was in reasonably common use by the forties.  The 1958 reference is probably for the disposable units.
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Post by: 50s on February 23, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
I'm with Ari.

But I think the 9 cents bid is some odd anomaly, however, you don't indicate that bid as a bidder # ... why?

It would make sense though if it started out as a regular auction but after the 9 cent bid was made you changed it to a reserve auction

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Post by: jedgerley on February 23, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 23, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
I'm with Ari.

But I think the 9 cents bid is some odd anomaly, however, you don't indicate that bid as a bidder # ... why?


I didnt factor in the opening bidder because they really didnt factor into the where the possible problem started. But if Ari is right then "bidder 1" would have caused the price to jump to 131 immediately. It sat for a few days at 14 cents. So I dont believe Ari is correct. Paul's proxy bid scenerio might be correct?? But not sure as of yet. All in all it doesnt matter but seems odd that bidder number 2 was able to make the price jump by 40.
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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
It can jump as much as you like with Proxy bids. I always use a couple of pence after my main price as sometimes you can win by just that few pence.
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Post by: CSM on February 23, 2014, 10:18:49 AM
If you "bid against yourself" but reach the reserve you WILL increase your bid.  Think of the reserve as another bidder with a higher hidden proxy bid that must be factored in...
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Post by: jedgerley on February 23, 2014, 10:32:33 AM
Ok thanks all. I appreciate the help. What threw me off i guess is when he retracted his bids. Made me think ebay screwed up. All the auctions I have had with reserves this has never happened. I tried to figure it out before my first post but I figured the Borg (apf) would know. Thanks again!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 01:18:24 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 05:07:40 AM

Well this fellow must check out APF, as he's changed his listing...

Still a bit expensive, but hey.  mind, I have one too, and I'm knocking my own. ;)

I actually contacted him yesterday, after I saw your post, Paul, and gave him some information as well as an image of what the actual first release quad looks like. He wrote back, saying he is selling it for a friend, and was actually appreciative to get the correct info, as he didnt want to be seen as trying to defraud or rip someone off.   :D

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Post by: Silhouette on February 23, 2014, 01:23:22 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 01:18:24 PM
I actually contacted him yesterday, after I saw your post, Paul, and gave him some information as well as an image of what the actual first release quad looks like. He wrote back, saying he is selling it for a friend, and was actually appreciative to get the correct info, as he didnt want to be seen as trying to defraud or rip someone off.   :D

Seems reasonable, his feedback doesn't show a poster being sold before that one.
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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
Don't forget, this one was outside the cinema in Leicester square in 1953.... er late 50's....er make that early 60's... ;)

posters worth about £80-120...  he'll be lucky to get half of what he wants. 
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Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
Don't forget, this one was outside the cinema in Leicester square in 1953.... er late 50's....er make that early 60's... ;)

posters worth about £80-120...  he'll be lucky to get half of what he wants. 

I saw that he kept his uber high price, too, Paul.  :-\

It might take him a couple times of it sitting there, not bought, before the seller (or the friend that owns it), brings that price Way down.
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Post by: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:37:45 PM
He may need a gentle nudge Jeff... ;)
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Post by: Silhouette on February 23, 2014, 01:38:30 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
Don't forget, this one was outside the cinema in Leicester square in 1953.... er late 50's....er make that early 60's... ;)

posters worth about £80-120...  he'll be lucky to get half of what he wants. 

Now if it was outside Berkley Square it may have been worth it...great little number this

http://www.youtube.com/v/xTeiYN_Vq6E
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Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 23, 2014, 01:37:45 PM
He may need a gentle nudge Jeff... ;)

It was a light nudge. But the listing also ends in about 15.5 hours. So i guess we can see if any other adjustments are made, before the cutoff time.  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
Follow The Fleet (1936), linen backed, US 6 sheet. Seller claims this is one of 2 known. Looks beautiful and in great condition- with a beautiful price, too. Still, an eye grabber, in any case!  clap

Open Bid: $13,000.00
BIN: $17,500.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zps3616ab62.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOLLOW-THE-FLEET-original-six-sheet-movie-poster-Astaire-and-Rogers-/291086502448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c61b8a30

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 23, 2014, 04:02:01 PM
^^ and framed too?  :o It looks in incredible condition..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on February 23, 2014, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 23, 2014, 01:18:24 PM
I actually contacted him yesterday, after I saw your post, Paul, and gave him some information as well as an image of what the actual first release quad looks like. He wrote back, saying he is selling it for a friend, and was actually appreciative to get the correct info, as he didnt want to be seen as trying to defraud or rip someone off.   :D



Good job, Jeff.  I really don't get why people choose to post an inaccuracy in a listing here and not contact the seller.  Most of the times that I contacted the sellers about issues like this, they were appreciative and corrected the listing.  If the listing is not corrected after sending the seller the correct info., then I would understand posting the listing here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 24, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
This section from a THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 6 sheet, has been around on ebay quite a while. Seller is asking $15,000, obo. I see there was a declined offer, this past December. Even tho almost 18 years ago, as a point of reference, a linen backed 6sh was sold by Bruce, back in 1996, for $9200.00 (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/4617760.html)

Anyhow.. here it is: I just cant see this ever going for this price... but you never know.

BIN: $15K / or Make an offer.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqJlwE9JVDGL29BPmugDvw60_57_zps44495361.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Day-The-Earth-Stood-Still-RARE-Original-1951-Vintage-Poster-6-Sheet-Section-/261259366326?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd4458fb6



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 24, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
any offer he turned down is probably more than it's worth because unless the buyer offered 5% of his asking, any offer he turned down is more than it's worth
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 25, 2014, 02:34:51 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 22, 2014, 06:35:24 PM
In what year were magic markers first marketed widely to the public??

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3311815

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140218/550/belgian_casablanca_JC10129_L.jpg)

I own a heavily trimmed map-back Casablanca (old iPhone pics below) which presumably is from the first release.  I've also handled an early 60s release poster.  I'm regretting not taking photos of it now as I'm a bit fuzzy on the details... this is all from memory mind you.  IIRC it was from 1962, based on the postage cancellation stamp on the back.  Definitely early 60s though. The size of the art was the same or close to the 1st release size (~10x14), but it was printed on MUCH larger paper... there was at least 3" of white space all around the image so it was probably 17x22 or so?  It looked pretty odd with such a tiny image floating in the middle of such a large piece of paper, but it was definitely from the 60s re-release and definitely theater used -- it was addressed to a theater on the back, stamped and cancelled.  It was also folded. 

(http://imageshack.com/a/img201/6000/imageiik.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img826/2039/imagemqa.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img153/1286/imagexsn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 02:39:29 PM
no correction to the listing yet...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 25, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Despite the condition Matt, the most important bits are there, and you can rest easy in the knowledge you have a true bonafide 1st release (and not a magic marker stroke to be seen!  ;) )
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 25, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
(and not a magic marker stroke to be seen!  ;) )

Could be a DeLorean Magic Marker?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 25, 2014, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 03:23:14 PM
Could be a DeLorean Magic Marker?

If that were the case it would be stainless steel silver
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
personally I think it's pretty shoddy.
on one line it's proclaimed an original first release.
in the fine print the listing has a disclaimer

can you imagine what he would be saying if some eBay seller had the same language in a listing?

If you aren't certain what you have, get certain before you saddle someone with the issue
same thing as the autographs

it isn't the buyer's responsibility to figure out if it's original or not, it is the seller's responsibility
IMO I think the poster should be removed from sale
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 25, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
If you aren't certain what you have, get certain before you saddle someone with the issue
same thing as the autographs

it isn't the buyer's responsibility to figure out if it's original or not, it is the seller's responsibility

I agree Rich but the circumvention logic is that a lifetime refund is warrantied
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 04:32:40 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 25, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
I agree Rich but the circumvention logic is that a lifetime refund is warrantied

totally putting the onus on the buyer to research & complain

if you don't know what you're doing. you shouldn't be doing it
if you do it, you can't complain about others doing it
if you complain about others doing it............

well, that just shows something, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 04:36:03 PM
this description says everything.
it is pretty much saying with certainty it is a first release poster. It is not an ambiguous statement

An Original 1947 (from the first release of this movie in Belgium) Vintage Theatrical Folded Belgian Movie Poster (measures 10 3/4" x 15 1/4" [27 x 39 cm])



the small print turns it into  an ambiguous statement.
Please do not bid on this poster unless you can accept the uncertainty as to its year of origin.


It's either one or the other and cannot be both.
either it is absolutely an original and you can state so unequivocally, or you state that you have absolutely no clue what it is.
You can't say both and get away with it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 25, 2014, 04:18:01 PM
...but the circumvention logic is that a lifetime refund is warrantied

Puffery and Honesty, should they be used in the same sentence?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Puffery and Honesty, should they be used in the same sentence?


definitely not

but here is what I would have to advertise this poster as: not yet salable.

If there is any doubt what-so-ever being an original release poster, then it should not include any language that it IS and original release poster as the title of the listing reports.
If it was a consigned item, I would have to ask the consignor if he wants it A) listed as a re-issue, or B) not listed until a true Belgian poster expert could give a definitive determination as to the originality of the poster.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

Forcing the buyer to have to A) do the research at their time B) get definitive proof to show the seller C) deal with the time frame in between when the money is not accessible to spend on other purchases D) Sitting there wondering how long it will take me to deal with the dealer after I try to get my money back

to me is an abrogation of my responsibilities
It is MY job to authenticate the poster, not my buyer's job.
That's what my "contract" with my bidders represents - MY JOB

I cannot in good conscience waste my bidder's time at no positive value to them

it's like the autograph thread again
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
Who just deleted a lot of posts here and why?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 25, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
Who just deleted a lot of posts here and why?


I still have them ;)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:46:21 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 07:42:10 PM

I still have them ;)




This stuff is pretty wild. I sure hope the person responsible comes forward and explains their actions.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 07:42:10 PM

I still have them ;)

so do I
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 25, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
Who just deleted a lot of posts here and why?

I DID.  GO READ WHAT I JUST POSTED ON THE MAIN BOARD.  STOP THIS NOW.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:51:34 PM
You have my word that I won't post one word attacking anyone in any way.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 25, 2014, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 07:51:34 PM
You have my word that I won't post one word attacking anyone in any way.

Bruce

Thank you, and please, anyone else out there who is feeling the need to go on the offense, follow Bruce's lead.  If you don't stop it, I most certainly will.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 25, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: holiday on February 25, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
I DID.  GO READ WHAT I JUST POSTED ON THE MAIN BOARD.  STOP THIS NOW.

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 25, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
Out of this recent edited thread something good may come out of it. I think Rich your Bid History listing needs better clarity of who bid what and when, which may avoid future possible misinterpretation. I know it is a new website and teething troubles are likely so issues are to be expected.

The bid history (http://www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option=com_bfauction_plus&task=bidHistory&cid=110209&Itemid=101) for the Rear Window auction (http://www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option=com_bfauction_plus&view=bid&cid=110209&Itemid=101) (which ended  02-19-2014 18:06 (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2mFsTQQCWYEJ:www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option%3Dcom_bfauction_plus%26task%3DlistItems%26limitstart%3D200%26Itemid%3D356+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au)  ) doesn't show if there was someone else bidding on the poster as it looks as though the same person was running up the bids for the full 90 minutes of the extended bidding, at all sorts of bid increments. Might be better to use a different auction plugin or software maybe, as the one you are using (BF) I suspect is a bit limited in functionality and can't show the full bid history. Clarity is important. I'd probably also suggest not using a plugin but using an external independent auction service provider like I think Bruce does so they control the code and not you.

I could have PM'd this but I think Bruce should also know my response.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 09:32:08 PM
Out of this recent edited thread something good may come out of it. I think Rich your Bid History listing needs better clarity of who bid what and when, which may avoid future possible misinterpretation. I know it is a new website and teething troubles are likely so issues are to be expected.

The bid history (http://www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option=com_bfauction_plus&task=bidHistory&cid=110209&Itemid=101) for the Rear Window auction (http://www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option=com_bfauction_plus&view=bid&cid=110209&Itemid=101) (which ended  02-19-2014 18:06 (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2mFsTQQCWYEJ:www.movieposterbid.com/index.php?option%3Dcom_bfauction_plus%26task%3DlistItems%26limitstart%3D200%26Itemid%3D356+&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au)  ) doesn't show if there was someone else bidding on the poster as it looks as though the same person was running up the bids for the full 90 minutes of the extended bidding, at all sorts of bid increments. Might be better to use a different auction plugin or software maybe, as the one you are using (BF) I suspect is a bit limited in functionality and can't show the full bid history. Clarity is important. I'd probably also suggest not using a plugin but using an external independent auction service provider like I think Bruce does so they control the code and not you.

I could have PM'd this but I think Bruce should also know my response.




Steve, you saved my response so you know that I stated it was a bug that is being fixed.
we didn't see the bug until the final day of the auctions and couldn't implement the fix for fear of crashing the site like we did when we uploaded a previous module to the site a week earlier.
The bid history there is a mess and the bidding action suffered as a result. The fix is in the works and will be on site before the next auction.
It was the first auction on the site and the bug didn't show until 200+ people were bidding. It may also have been a result of what crashed the system the previous week and when the newest files were uploaded, some files were missed.

The bid history should of course be fully observable and decipherable. I have no complaint about the query

and to be sure Steve. I have no control over any part of the operation of the site. I wouldn't know what to do with coding language and I don't want in the database because who knows how badly  I could mess that thing up & foul up the system. Only the programmer, who is the actual site administrator, can see or do anything back there.

here is my original response to the question.
On the poster & bidding, unfortunately we discovered a bidding bug on the last day of the auction due to a bad module that was loaded and a corrupted file, so when a bidder raised the bid $1, the darned system instead of hop-scotching the bids so that $551 would go to $553 due to the high bidders proxy, it raised the high bidder to the bid the underbidder was making and raising incorrectly to $552 rather than $553. The same bug unfortunately also affected the bid history because it was replacing the $1 bidder with the proxy bidder

the underbidder kept raising $1 for a long time before a 3rd bidder entered the game (there were 16 people watching the page, including one in Central Missouri) and raised the bid. Then the $1 bidder dropped out and it was over in a few minutes and the high proxy bidder won the poster for a very good price, which allows him to get the poster properly restored (just like the copy you sold was redone to look right) & have a really nice piece for himself.

Thankfully the programmer is working on this bid issue and a couple other issues we found bugs about when the site was under a full load and all of these issues are going to be resolved. It was the first auction on the new site and the programmer is on this job thankfully. Had we been alerted to the bug earlier, we would have been able to fix it sooner

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 09:48:26 PM
I made a small mistake here. the $1 bidder was not underbidder, he was down below that although because I can't look into the back end, I would have to ask admin if there were more than one $1 bidders in there.

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
the underbidder kept raising $1 for a long time before a 3rd bidder entered the game (there were 16 people watching the page, including one in Central Missouri) and raised the bid. Then the $1 bidder dropped out and it was over in a few minutes and the high proxy bidder won the poster for a very good price, which allows him to get the poster properly restored (just like the copy you sold was redone to look right) & have a really nice piece for himself.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 25, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Damn looks like I missed all the good stuff
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 25, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 25, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Damn looks like I missed all the good stuff

No, just the tedious stuff. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: holiday on February 25, 2014, 07:53:35 PM
Thank you, and please, anyone else out there who is feeling the need to go on the offense, follow Bruce's lead.  If you don't stop it, I most certainly will.

Public attacks between poster professionals is bad for APF and bad for this hobby.

There are several Rich smears which still need to be cleansed.
Will you do it or I?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: brude on February 25, 2014, 10:02:59 PM
Public attacks between poster professionals is bad for APF and bad for this hobby.

There are several Rich smears which still need to be cleansed.
Will you do it or I?

what smears are those, if I might ask. you can message me if you like.
I'd like to see where I libel anyone
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 25, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 25, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Damn looks like I missed all the good stuff

Consider yourself lucky.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 25, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
you can message me if you like.

Yes, please dear god move this discussion to PMs. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 10:10:11 PM
Naw, this should be public.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142600.html#msg142600 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142600.html#msg142600)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142608.html#msg142608 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142608.html#msg142608)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142610.html#msg142610 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142610.html#msg142610)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142611.html#msg142611 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142611.html#msg142611)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142614.html#msg142614 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg142614.html#msg142614)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 10:21:46 PM
I agree with Rich this time around.  Very doubtful this is a '47 and it should have been titled "probable re-release" instead of just mentioning it in the text at the end. I don't understand why Bruce dropped the ball on this one, since he normally does fairly disclose all issues.  Of course, Heritage totally bombed on this one as well:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-02/Casa.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 10:24:23 PM
say Ted.. you didn't see the deleted comment, did you?

the deletion had nothing to do with criticism or actual commentary. read Holiday's rule post for more clarity

you're welcome to PM me also
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 10:21:46 PM
I agree with Rich this time around.  Very doubtful this is a '47 and it should have been titled "probable re-release."  I don't understand why Bruce dropped the ball on this one, since he normally does fairly disclose all issues:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-02/Casa.jpg)

Good Lord, Mel! I explained that Heritage has sold this THREE TIMES as being 1940s first release over a six year period and have NOT corrected or amended those auctions. Given that, how can I in good conscience call it anything else in the main description and be fair to the consignor?

And of course I have a lengthy paragraph explaining all the controversy about this poster (and of course, Heritage in no way explained any of this).

I also explained ad nauseum that I am going to personally explain everything that is known about this poster to the high bidder, and that I will give him the option of canceling. How in the world is that "dropping the ball"?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 10:24:23 PM
say Ted.. you didn't see the deleted comment, did you?

the deletion had nothing to do with criticism or actual commentary. read Holiday's rule post for more clarity

you're welcome to PM me also

I have read all of the deleted comments, Rich.

Those I have linked are personal attacks.
If you have an issue with another member's business practices show some courtesy to your competitor and take it private.
It is not forum debate material.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Good Lord, Mel! I explained that Heritage has sold this THREE TIMES as being 1940s first release over a six year period and have NOT corrected or amended those auctions. Given that, how can I in good conscience call it anything else in the main description and be fair to the consignor?

And of course I have a lengthy paragraph explaining all the controversy about this poster (and of course, Heritage in no way explained any of this).

I also explained ad nauseum that I am going to personally explain everything that is known about this poster to the high bidder, and that I will give him the option of canceling. How in the world is that "dropping the ball"?

I already said Heritage "bombed" on this one as well.  (You quoted my first draft, which I quickly amended.)

As far as being "fair" to the consignor, that's just too bad for the consignor.

Of course the buyer has MORE options than just canceling the transaction.  The buyer could sue EMP for breach of contract and could recover the value of a true '47 less the final auction price for this poster IF the jury found that the time issue was not sufficiently disclosed:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/part_7
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Good Lord, Mel! I explained that Heritage has sold this THREE TIMES as being 1940s first release over a six year period and have NOT corrected or amended those auctions. Given that, how can I in good conscience call it anything else in the main description and be fair to the consignor?

That is simply saying that the way Heritage conducts its business is the benchmark for your business.

Hell Bruce, you have set the standards for many of us to to follow, packaging, grading hard, images etc - I know I have modeled much of how I do things based on the quality of the way you do your thing - I am very surprised you are using 'well they did it first' reason as your argument.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 10:54:46 PM
I already said Heritage "bombed" on this one as well.  (You quoted my first draft, which I quickly amended.)

As far as being "fair" to the consignor, that's just too bad for the consignor.

Of course the buyer has MORE options than just canceling the transaction.  The buyer could sue EMP for breach of contract and could recover the value of a true '47 less the final auction price for this poster IF the jury found that the time issue was not sufficiently disclosed:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/part_7

What contract am I breaching by fully disclosing all I know and giving them the choice of completing the sale or not?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 11:07:33 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 10:54:46 PM

Of course the buyer has MORE options than just canceling the transaction.  The buyer could sue EMP for breach of contract and could recover the value of a true '47 less the final auction price for this poster IF the jury found that the time issue was not sufficiently disclosed:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/part_7

In a pig's eye.

Who in their right mind would waste their time on shit like this?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 25, 2014, 11:08:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Steve, you saved my response so you know that I stated it was a bug that is being fixed.

Sorry I don't remember all posts...

I have bigger problems now... I noticed a big lump on my pet possums scrotum and I need to see what the vet thinks


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 25, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
That is simply saying that the way Heritage conducts its business is the benchmark for your business.

Hell Bruce, you have set the standards for many of us to to follow, packaging, grading hard, images etc - I know I have modeled much of how I do things based on the quality of the way you do your thing - I am very surprised you are using 'well they did it first' reason as your argument.

No, I am IN NO WAY am conducting my business the way they do:
1) I fully disclose the controversy over the date of release, which they did not do any of the times they sold this since 2005
2) I contact the buyer and give them a repeat complete explanation of what is known of the poster and give them the option of canceling
3) I still give them a lifetime guarantee, as I do all my buyers

Now I can't say for certain that Heritage does not do #2 or #3 above, but I have never ever heard of them doing either, and they never advertise that they do.

This is a very difficult poster, and there are others like it where the leading members of the hobby do not agree on the specifics. I COULD never auction any of these posters, but that since I am taking all the risk (giving the guarantee) it seems it should be my risk to take (and it is only on a very few posters).

And thanks very much for your kind words. I do do ALL all I can to both "talk the talk" and "walk the walk", and I think you and everyone else here knows that.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silhouette on February 25, 2014, 11:12:15 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 11:08:02 PM

I have bigger problems now... I noticed a big lump on my pet possums scrotum and I need to see what the vet thinks


(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd421/SilhouetteNSW/Just%20Photos/super_smilies007_zpsaf1a1660.gif~original)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2014, 11:14:58 PM
it seems I missed 4 laughies.
here there are. now my account is up to date

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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 11:08:02 PM
I have bigger problems now... I noticed a big lump on my pet possums scrotum and I need to see what the vet thinks

uh...oh...

(http://www.nastyhobbit.org/forum/animated_gifs/possum.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2014, 11:19:04 PM
Finally.......

back on track..

 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on February 25, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 25, 2014, 11:08:02 PM
Sorry I don't remember all posts...

I have bigger problems now... I noticed a big lump on my pet possums scrotum and I need to see what the vet thinks




Christ, I almost choked laughing.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Hot dam!! Here it is... and priced at Only a cool ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!  :o

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=380851935028&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_3_zpsda8913bd.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_3-1_zps816f1f37.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 25, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
Here it is... and priced at Only a cool ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-1931-Original-BELA-LUGOSI-27x41-One-Sheet-TOD-BROWNING-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/380851935028?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58ac8b5734

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_3_zpsda8913bd.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_3-1_zps816f1f37.jpg)

I guess I must have matured as a collector but all I can think is "why was this linen-backed"?  Too bad....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2014, 11:38:41 PM
In the description, Todd says it's only been paper backed ("Poster is paper backed in VERY FINE+ to NEAR MINT Condition(currently shrink-wrapped.")

I bet that white border that looks like linen is actually a piece of white foam core that it is shrunk-wrapped against, to help keep it protected & flat.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on February 25, 2014, 11:39:45 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
I guess I must have matured as a collector but all I can think is "why was this linen-backed"?  Too bad....

You're right.
It was paper-backed to conserve it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on February 25, 2014, 11:41:58 PM
Quote
Maybe that white border that looks like linen is actually a piece of white foam core that it is wrapped against, to help keep it protected & flat.

If it was me I would have just had it mounted on that foam core and been done with it. Would probably end up costing more to ship, though.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 25, 2014, 11:43:07 PM
How to sell a $1 million item:

(1) Use lots of text colors.

(2) Use lots of different fonts.

(3) Use lots of different text sizes.

FTW

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-02/Dracula.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on February 25, 2014, 11:46:13 PM
At least it's patriotic. Maybe he was playing that angle.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
I wondered how long it would be, before Todd brought out the big guns again.

Always a real treat to see, that's for sure!!

 clap clap clap clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on February 26, 2014, 12:03:38 AM
This thread..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on February 26, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
That is the BEST Dracula poster, bar-none.  Creepy and menacing.   bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on February 26, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
Follow-up on Casablanca Belgian:

I called the buyer, starting explaining everything to him, but he already knew it all. He also knows that the mapbacked ones have bleedthrough in the faces, and he wants this on his wall, and he is happy with this poster (and he thinks it is likely a re-release) and it is being sent to him today!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 26, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
my wonder is what would the poster price be if the poster was properly described.
would it have sold for $1189 or for $300 if it was indeed described as the re-issue it most likely is

the answer is very obvious
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on February 27, 2014, 03:03:17 AM
Quote from: Bruce on February 26, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
Follow-up on Casablanca Belgian:

I called the buyer, starting explaining everything to him, but he already knew it all. He also knows that the mapbacked ones have bleedthrough in the faces, and he wants this on his wall, and he is happy with this poster (and he thinks it is likely a re-release) and it is being sent to him today!

Most of the italy Bruce Lee's are re-issues as well :

Big Boss (2sh/4sh ? , bustas/locandina Rotograph)

Fist of Fury (2sh/4sh Novograph & red Titanus logo , bustas/locandina Rotograph & red logo......bustas labelled Edistampa prolly R70s despite having "prima edizione")

Way of Dragon 2sh/4sh ? , bustas/locandina Rotograph.....note re-issue bustas has white lettering directly under the yellow title)

R70s Rotopress , R80s Sericolor , Grafitalia ?

FoF locandinas (never seen Boss or Way locandinas fea Titanus pink logo) :

-'73 red Titanus logo
-R70s pink logo (same with R70s 007 LALD I believe)
-R80s black logo

Even the pink logo ones are htf.......
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on February 27, 2014, 03:03:17 AM
Most of the italy Bruce Lee's are re-issues as well :

Big Boss (2sh/4sh ? , bustas/locandina Rotograph)

Fist of Fury (2sh/4sh Novograph & red Titanus logo , bustas/locandina Rotograph & red logo......bustas labelled Edistampa prolly R70s despite having "prima edizione")

Way of Dragon 2sh/4sh ? , bustas/locandina Rotograph.....note re-issue bustas has white lettering directly under the yellow title)

R70s Rotopress , R80s Sericolor , Grafitalia ?

FoF locandinas (never seen Boss or Way locandinas fea Titanus pink logo) :

-'73 red Titanus logo
-R70s pink logo (same with R70s 007 LALD I believe)
-R80s black logo

Even the pink logo ones are htf.......

 :o
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1942-Original-poster-for-THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/301108276725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461b73adf5

no FB & I'm pretty sure I have seen the photo before
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
Original Horror Of Dracula (1958) FOH set-- 8 in all. Gotta say, these look pretty great, too.

BIN: $8319.00 / 5000 GBP    :o
(OBO)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12-1_zps95e730a4.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zps6e8286b5.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horror-of-Dracula-original-Front-of-House-card-lobby1958-RARE-Hammer-Horror-/161204048339?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1942-Original-poster-for-THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/301108276725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461b73adf5

no FB & I'm pretty sure I have seen the photo before

Yup, it's the identical photo from the auction that ended on Nov 4, 2013. That sold for $14,100.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-poster-1942-Original-Rare-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/111201506803?nma=true&si=4cIrX7uWhPHg0Ik6a7W2EwDrQxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So buy for $14K, then re-list it a few months later with an opening bid of $99.00. (Assuming it is the same poster). Interesting strategy, to say the least.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zps1ca0a294.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 27, 2014, 01:30:43 PM
It no makey any sense - winning bidder had 329 feedback
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on February 27, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
Original Horror Of Dracula (1958) FOH set-- 8 in all. Gotta say, these look pretty great, too.

BIN: $8319.00 / 5000 GBP    :o
(OBO)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12-1_zps95e730a4.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zps6e8286b5.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horror-of-Dracula-original-Front-of-House-card-lobby1958-RARE-Hammer-Horror-/161204048339?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

Another chancer, These are usually around £500 - £800

They are a very nice set though, as you say Jeff.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 01:58:47 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 27, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Another chancer, These are usually around £500 - £800

They are a very nice set though, as you say Jeff.

Wow, Paul.. that's quite a difference! I guess the seller is crossing everything he can cross, in hoping for that price, then, right?

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 03:10:59 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
Yup, it's the identical photo from the auction that ended on Nov 4, 2013. That sold for $14,100.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THIS-GUN-FOR-HIRE-movie-poster-1942-Original-Rare-Veronica-Lake-Alan-Ladd-/111201506803?nma=true&si=4cIrX7uWhPHg0Ik6a7W2EwDrQxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So buy for $14K, then re-list it a few months later with an opening bid of $99.00. (Assuming it is the same poster). Interesting strategy, to say the least.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zps1ca0a294.jpg)


I knew I had seen the photo. so it's probably a totally fake seller trying to scam someone....
now there's a seller you can go neg on.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
And the new seller has 0 feedback, too.

 :-\
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on February 27, 2014, 06:56:14 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 26, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
That is the BEST Dracula poster, bar-none.  Creepy and menacing.   bed1

This poster begs to disagree with you.
(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path[1%2F0%2F4%2F8%2F1%2F10481201]%2Csizedata[450x2000]&call=url[file%3Aproduct.chain])
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 27, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
And the new seller has 0 feedback, too.

 :-\

yes I had noted that.
also note the poster is pulled already so they must have gotten complaints.

No doubt that at least in this area, eBay has finally found the right process in dealing with such sellers.
although as an honest comment, I find that I have few problems on eBay dealing with anyone. I get what I pay for, the overall quality of packaging by weekend warrior sellers has improved and complaints are resolved easily - in part because eBay now pretty much requires dealers to act more responsibly & enforces responsibility better.

I had a poster arrive with unmentioned issues and the seller resolved it with me very fairly that day, resulting in his receiving ++ feedback & I will happily do business with him again.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 27, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
yes I had noted that.
also note the poster is pulled already so they must have gotten complaints.

No doubt that at least in this area, eBay has finally found the right process in dealing with such sellers.
although as an honest comment, I find that I have few problems on eBay dealing with anyone. I get what I pay for, the overall quality of packaging by weekend warrior sellers has improved and complaints are resolved easily - in part because eBay now pretty much requires dealers to act more responsibly & enforces responsibility better.

I had a poster arrive with unmentioned issues and the seller resolved it with me very fairly that day, resulting in his receiving ++ feedback & I will happily do business with him again.

Ebay sucks overall Rich.  They allow endless free listings, hopelessly junking up the listings with overpriced crap; they block most communication between the buyer and seller; no communications allowed between buyers; they offer bogus "hidden reserve" listings; the feedback system is useless now, all names are hidden, purchases are hidden; prices are hidden for "best offer accepted"; no auction history; scamsters like Loce are protected; the 15% Ebay/Paypal fee is too high; etc, etc.

It's gone from a "B" to a "D" in the last three years IMO. This hobby is very fortunate to have several independent auction houses....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on February 27, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Yeah but we are not all ballers like you.  If you know what you are doing, you can snag some nice posters on the cheap...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 27, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Ebay sucks overall Rich.  They allow endless free listings, hopeless junking up the listings; they block most communication between the buyer and seller; no communications allowed between buyers; they have bogus "hidden reserve" listings; the feedback system is useless now, all names are hidden, purchases are hidden; prices are hidden for "best offer accepted"; no auction history;

It's gone from a "B" to a "D" in the last three years IMO. This hobby is very fortunate to have several independent auction houses....

I do agree that the free listings that clog up the system are onerous, but I have figured out how to block alot of them by saving my searches without displaying dealers I wouldn't be doing biz with because they would never have anything I ever want if they sell key fobs and celebrity dollars, but I'm not sure I agree on all the rest at all.

I did not allow buyer-to-buyer contact when I had other dealers on the old site (There aren't other dealers on the new site) and as to "hidden" bidder names I have spoken to many of my bidders and people who aren't bidders and they all want to be anonymous. Facts are that there is no website where you really know who the bidders are to any great measure. We may know that Marklawd is our friend, but does the average person who never steps foot in an online forum know? Is A*****9 any different than seeing Ar518479? (note: on MPB you now see only A*****9 but that exact code is only used for a single member, so only one person will ever be A*****9).

Realistically, if people wanted you to know who they are and if ANY auction company wanted you to know exactly who they are, then every auction would require you to use your real name for screen display. I understand how you would like to be able to track back information as you used to be able to on eBay years ago, but there were good reasons (for ebay) to go the route they went and the way I now have it. If any dealer  - any dealer - believes that bidders should not be anonymous as bidders wish to be, they should institute actual name bidder id's. Their buyers won't like it very much

auction history and the other issues.. maybe some could be changed, but to the vast majority of people it is not a priority. I really don't think business is a one-size-that-must-fit-all situation Mel.

One thing you said confused me though.. why is the FB system useless?
it works fine for me and keeps sellers in line.
If you think that the information you can no longer get is a neg, do you require the same transparency from every retailer you deal with? Should Dillards be posting a list every day of all their sales for customers to read?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 27, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
I pretty much agree 100% with Rich....with a few add ons

1. You have no idea who you bid against at Hake's, Christies, Heritage, Sothebys, Profiles etc unless they are in the room...online elements are eliminating that too.... And you obviously cannot contact the other bidders either...And you have no idea who wins.....unless they share :)

2. It's relatively simple to find best offer prices...you just have to know how to look 8)

3. eBay has to protect buyers and sellers simultaneously and it's challenging to do both equally and fairly with competitors and scammers constantly mixing with real honest bidders

4. I have purchased posters from Sean,Morrie, Luminita, Marty, MPA gallery, CaptainBijou, And even Ken Schacter ...the list goes on and on.....ON EBAY!!! I never had any problems...not one...in fact I emailed them all about specific shipping directions etc...with my "packages get damaged coming to Maui" template...they all took great care in shipping

It's a disservice to all the top notch sellers, who are independent and competent, to constantly harangue EBay...

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 27, 2014, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on February 27, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
I pretty much agree 100% with Rich....with a few add ons

1. You have no idea who you bid against at Hake's, Christies, Heritage, Sothebys, Profiles etc unless they are in the room...online elements are eliminating that too.... And you obviously cannot contact the other bidders either...And you have no idea who wins.....unless they share :)

2. It's relatively simple to find best offer prices...you just have to know how to look 8)

3. eBay has to protect buyers and sellers simultaneously and it's challenging to do both equally and fairly with competitors and scammers constantly mixing with real honest bidders

4. I have purchased posters from Sean,Morrie, Luminita, Marty, MPA gallery, CaptainBijou, And even Ken Schacter ...the list goes on and on.....ON EBAY!!! I never had any problems...not one...in fact I emailed them all about specific shipping directions etc...with my "packages get damaged coming to Maui" template...they all took great care in shipping

It's a disservice to all the top notch sellers, who are independent and competent, to constantly harangue EBay...

I'll go a little further: I think it's unfair to the general populace to think that they can offer the same kind of service professionals do just like I think it's a diservice to a weekend football player to measure them against an NFL'er

I would venture to say that most people who want to "find" something on ebay are looking to find it with a non-pro. Expecting pro service at the same time is a redundant concept
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Post by: CSM on February 28, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 27, 2014, 06:56:14 PM
This poster begs to disagree with you.
(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path[1%2F0%2F4%2F8%2F1%2F10481201]%2Csizedata[450x2000]&call=url[file%3Aproduct.chain])

Can't disagree with R47 Lugosi...that's the bomb
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Post by: Starling on February 28, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
Quote from: CSM on February 28, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Can't disagree with R47 Lugosi...that's the bomb

I agree, it's a great looking poster.  But the colors don't scream "horror" to me.  Too bright and cheery. 

The original release looks dark, dank and musty, very off-putting....perfect for the Count:)

And the Dracula title font is far superior in the original release as well.....

Just my very humble opinion :-*
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Post by: brude on February 28, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
They are both excellent in such different ways.
If I had my druthers, I'd own 'em both.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 28, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 28, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
I agree, it's a great looking poster.  But the colors don't scream "horror" to me.  Too bright and cheery.  

The original release looks dark, dank and musty, very off-putting....perfect for the Count:)

And the Dracula title font is far superior in the original release as well.....

Just my very humble opinion :-*

And best, then, to avoid the more comic book drawn, Style F OS.

 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 01, 2014, 12:04:59 AM
I think my favorite Dracula poster is the 1961 re-issue
I'd like to get one eventually
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Post by: lynaron on March 01, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
Is this the one, Rich?  If so, get me roaring drunk at Cinevent and I'll tell you a story that'll make you weep and want to curl up in a warm sock drawer.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/New%20Posters/dracula-from-left-frances-dade-bela-lugosi-1931_zps90ce9ff3.jpg) (http://s738.photobucket.com/user/lynaron1/media/New%20Posters/dracula-from-left-frances-dade-bela-lugosi-1931_zps90ce9ff3.jpg.html)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 01, 2014, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: lynaron on March 01, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
Is this the one, Rich?  If so, get me roaring drunk at Cinevent and I'll tell you a story that'll make you weep and want to curl up in a warm sock drawer.

I don't normally wear socks
 :P
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Post by: Mirosae on March 01, 2014, 03:59:06 PM
Quote from: lynaron on March 01, 2014, 03:23:30 PM
Is this the one, Rich?  If so, get me roaring drunk at Cinevent and I'll tell you a story that'll make you weep and want to curl up in a warm sock drawer.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/New%20Posters/dracula-from-left-frances-dade-bela-lugosi-1931_zps90ce9ff3.jpg) (http://s738.photobucket.com/user/lynaron1/media/New%20Posters/dracula-from-left-frances-dade-bela-lugosi-1931_zps90ce9ff3.jpg.html)

Beautiful!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 01, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
isn't it Rosa?
sadly I didn't buy one when they were only a few hundred and they don't come up too often, probably because the people who buy them, keep them.
Now it probably goes for more than I want to pay so unless I get to trade stuff for one I probably won't get one..

no big deal. I can live with the disappointment
 ;)
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Post by: lynaron on March 03, 2014, 04:11:55 AM
The FRANKENSTEIN one sheet of the same year release ain't too shabby either. 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: lynaron on March 03, 2014, 04:11:55 AM
The FRANKENSTEIN one sheet of the same year release ain't too shabby either. 


it is and I may still have one. I would prefer the Drac which is really a killer poster
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Post by: Neo on March 03, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
I've never seen Barbarella (1968), but there is a lot of cool art for it, including this VHS release:

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/barbarella_zps78930cf5.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/barbarella_zps78930cf5.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301112223475?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
it shows on MeTV right now

you should catch it. hilariously fun movie, especially when Jane is in the orgasmatron
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Post by: Mirosae on March 03, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 01, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
isn't it Rosa?
sadly I didn't buy one when they were only a few hundred and they don't come up too often, probably because the people who buy them, keep them.
Now it probably goes for more than I want to pay so unless I get to trade stuff for one I probably won't get one..

no big deal. I can live with the disappointment
 ;)

I am sure you can live without that one Rich, you have plenty of goodies!!!  ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 03, 2014, 04:04:51 PM
I am sure you can live without that one Rich, you have plenty of goodies!!!  ;)

yes I can. While it is nice to get everything you ever wanted, considering that I was middle-class to poor when I was young, I've gotten loads and loads of great stuff most people and have an enormous satisfaction with I've been able to accomplish as a collector in my life. I have no complaints in this area and as you say Rosa, I have plenty oif goodies and I am very happy with them

 :D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
hey fellow collectors. Sorry if I'm outing an auction that anyone else has on their watchlist
here is a goody that someone here may wish to bid on

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DR-NO-1st-James-Bond-movie-United-Artists-pressbook-1962-/301107123656?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item461b6215c8
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 03, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
it shows on MeTV right now

you should catch it. hilariously fun movie, especially when Jane is in the orgasmatron

Someone say 'orgasmatron?'

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/152/7/0/barbarella_30_by_farzelgaart-d51vsgw.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 05:55:31 PM
ah-h-h-h Jane..
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Post by: CSM on March 03, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83229

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F0%2F1%2F4%2F11014398%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Definitely my favourite Houdini poster!
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Post by: paul waines on March 04, 2014, 01:28:30 AM
I'm guessing Rich and Ted have never seen Barbarella either, as the orgasmatron is from the Sleeper.

The machine in Barbarella is called the "Machine of ultimate pleasure"...  I have seen the film once or twice.. ;)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 01:44:37 AM
I've seen both.. just been years since either
I think you can understand why we could get it mixed up
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Post by: Silhouette on March 04, 2014, 01:47:40 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 01:44:37 AM
I've seen both.. just been years since either
I think you can understand why we could get it mixed up

You're a heavy drinker?
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2014, 02:13:43 AM

It's "The Excessive Machine." Durand Durand knows it, too...lol...(at approx 3;20 of the clip).  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/v/Eu7GgZbCLsY
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on March 04, 2014, 02:35:01 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on March 03, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
I've never seen Barbarella (1968), but there is a lot of cool art for it, including this VHS release:

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/barbarella_zps78930cf5.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/barbarella_zps78930cf5.jpg.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301112223475?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

A lot of great stuff indeed! I actually like this artwork better than the US one sheet.

Anthony
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on March 04, 2014, 02:38:37 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 03, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83229

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F0%2F1%2F4%2F11014398%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Definitely my favourite Houdini poster!

Wow! Very cool!! Never seen this one.That's my favorite Houdini poster,too.
Wonder if Copperfield has this one yet?

Anthony
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
Anthony, the Barbarella 1975 reissue has that art, except the one shown above is a close-up detail of that poster
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2014, 02:52:52 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 04, 2014, 02:20:45 AM
Since we are all correcting each other, there is only two D's in Duran Duran...us oldies remember them well.  ;)

They were great in the 80's....  happy1

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Post by: Mirosae on March 04, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
Oldies? Nah...
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Post by: Reggie on March 04, 2014, 03:26:14 AM
 This Aussie daybill is quite scarce

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JAMES-BOND-THUNDERBALL-vintage-60s-AUSTRALIAN-DAYBILL-movie-poster-SEAN-CONNERY-/301108886817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461b7cfd21&_uhb=1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 04, 2014, 09:06:10 AM
(http://cdn.shazoo.ru/52558_BJLHZQjRSi_braceyourself_dc942f35d836d59791.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 04, 2014, 09:10:59 AM
Quote from: movieposterodyssey on March 04, 2014, 02:38:37 AM
Wow! Very cool!! Never seen this one.That's my favorite Houdini poster,too.
Wonder if Copperfield has this one yet?

Anthony

He probably will soon - but it is HUGE
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Post by: brude on March 04, 2014, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 04, 2014, 01:28:30 AM
I'm guessing Rich and Ted have never seen Barbarella either, as the orgasmatron is from the Sleeper.

The machine in Barbarella is called the "Machine of ultimate pleasure"...  I have seen the film once or twice.. ;)

Thanks for keeping us real, Paul.  wynk

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1623449/barbarella-in-orgasmatron-o.gif) (http://gifsoup.com/view/1623449/barbarella-in-orgasmatron.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 03, 2014, 04:17:25 PM
hey fellow collectors. Sorry if I'm outing an auction that anyone else has on their watchlist
here is a goody that someone here may wish to bid on

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DR-NO-1st-James-Bond-movie-United-Artists-pressbook-1962-/301107123656?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item461b6215c8

why haven't any of you commented on this auction
it's worth commenting.... for laughs
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Post by: rdavey26 on March 04, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
why haven't any of you commented on this auction
it's worth commenting.... for laughs
I would never pay that much for a PB
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: rdavey26 on March 04, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
I would never pay that much for a PB

how close would you go?

 ;D
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on March 04, 2014, 10:39:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
Anthony, the Barbarella 1975 reissue has that art, except the one shown above is a close-up detail of that poster

Yeah,I've always dug the reissue art better.The enhanced detail and the image itself makes for a better poster.Of course even this doesn't come close to some of the other material.
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Post by: CSM on March 05, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Where-danger-lives-Mitchum-Domergue-Best-Film-noir-Poster-Sexy-RARE-US-3-SHEET-/360874431626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5405cad48a

 eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 05, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 05, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Where-danger-lives-Mitchum-Domergue-Best-Film-noir-Poster-Sexy-RARE-US-3-SHEET-/360874431626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5405cad48a

 eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll

Whoa dude I was just about to post this.  This is the evil bastard fellow that beat me on this. He/she/it has posted a fake sale on Ebay looking for the missing bottom part.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Films1.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Films2.jpg)
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Post by: rdavey26 on March 05, 2014, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2014, 05:47:07 PM
how close would you go?

 ;D
A penny. I am not a Bond fan. And the one Bond poster I do have was given to me. I would never really pay for a Bond poster lol  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 05, 2014, 10:41:38 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Where-danger-lives-Mitchum-Domergue-Best-Film-noir-Poster-Sexy-RARE-US-3-SHEET-/360874431626?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5405cad48a

 eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll

You get 3 more from me, Chris...  eyeroll eyeroll eyeroll

What kind of BS listing is this anyhow?
And what if someone offered him 5K? Would he be obligated to sell in any way? It is a legitimately listed, BIN/BO auction. Or does the one sentence that it is NOT for sale, free him of this?

OR.. maybe he would sell this top section if offered the five grand..   :P
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Post by: Undead on March 07, 2014, 09:41:32 AM
Don't see a nice copy of this going with no reserve very often.

Night of the Living Dead one sheet looks to be in nice overall condition though not perfect either.

(http://undead.net/images/noldos.JPG)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5336816951&customid=&icep_item=231174725414&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5336816951&customid=&icep_item=231174725414&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 07, 2014, 12:09:05 PM
And the seller is only charging $5.00 to ship, too (economy).  ;D

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Post by: erik1925 on March 07, 2014, 02:35:18 PM
Another on the horizon! An unrestored, US half sheet, for Son of Frankenstein (1939), offered by Todd Feiertag.

$50,000 BIN, or best offer.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-7_zpsdca5a267.jpg)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=380858023821&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

Tint only adjusted to make it look a little less blue overall (due to the lighting used); the color levels were not touched.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/sonoffrankHS_zps665eefdf.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on March 07, 2014, 04:11:12 PM
Todd Feiertag

http://www.youtube.com/v/HQgmmim_gfw
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Post by: CSM on March 07, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
Great find David!

Can anyone determine how Todd had the Dracula one sheet etc on the wall?  Seemed like there was glass or plexi in front but no frame?
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Post by: CSM on March 07, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa - Todd's ex got the money for the $450,000 Mummy one sheet!?
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Post by: wonka on March 07, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
Please tell me that is not where he lives, in that chitty apartment.

Also, the editing on that clip almost makes it unwatchable.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 07, 2014, 10:23:29 PM
Quote from: wonka on March 07, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
Please tell me that is not where he lives, in that chitty apartment.

Also, the editing on that clip almost makes it unwatchable.

Need some special 3D glasses for the split screen
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 08, 2014, 01:39:10 AM
Quote from: wonka on March 07, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
Please tell me that is not where he lives, in that chitty apartment.

Also, the editing on that clip almost makes it unwatchable.

the camera work and audio was as amateurish as it gets
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 02:32:44 AM
Dont forget that the video was made back in 2001, shot on a non-pro, Hi-8 cam - so just a few technical advances have been made since then.

 happy1
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Post by: Silhouette on March 08, 2014, 02:34:41 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 02:32:44 AM
Dont forget that the video was made back in 2001, shot on a non-pro, Hi-8 cam - so just a few technical advances have been made since then.


Like editing?
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 02:35:43 AM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 08, 2014, 02:34:41 AM


Like editing?

Something like that.   :P
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Post by: paul waines on March 08, 2014, 03:52:23 AM
I think it seems very dated...  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 08, 2014, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: paul waines on March 08, 2014, 03:52:23 AM
I think it seems very dated...  ;)

 ;D ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: paul waines on March 08, 2014, 03:52:23 AM
I think it seems very dated...  ;)

Turn of the century retro.

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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
I checked with the seller on the size of this Lost Boys piece.

It measures 28 x 37 inches.. so undersized for a legit quad.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151231621634&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg
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Post by: pratschm on March 08, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2014, 03:45:17 PM
I checked with the seller on the size of this Lost Boys piece.

It measures 28 x 37 inches.. so undersized for a legit quad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151231621634?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Nice. That one was on my watch list. Thanks for the info.
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Post by: crowzilla on March 08, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 07, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
Can anyone determine how Todd had the Dracula one sheet etc on the wall?  Seemed like there was glass or plexi in front but no frame?

The Dracula is still displayed shrink-wrapped to the acid-free board that it was on when he purchased the poster 20+ years ago (I think you can still see the auction sticker in the corner of the board).  Everything up on the wall in the video is displayed in a similar style as these posters as Todd does not display any of them permanently.
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Post by: CSM on March 09, 2014, 01:01:11 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 08, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
The Dracula is still displayed shrink-wrapped to the acid-free board that it was on when he purchased the poster 20+ years ago (I think you can still see the auction sticker in the corner of the board).  Everything up on the wall in the video is displayed in a similar style as these posters as Todd does not display any of them permanently.

Thanks Sean
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on March 09, 2014, 03:14:20 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 08, 2014, 10:33:09 PM
The Dracula is still displayed shrink-wrapped to the acid-free board that it was on when he purchased the poster 20+ years ago (I think you can still see the auction sticker in the corner of the board).  Everything up on the wall in the video is displayed in a similar style as these posters as Todd does not display any of them permanently.

Really,seems kinda strange doesn't it? I mean,just shrink wrap protecting it.Doesn't have to be the best frame, but at the very least something protecting it.What if it fell onto something sharp? There's so many bad things that could happen.Seems like an unnecessary risk.

Anthony
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2014, 03:25:50 AM
Quote from: movieposterodyssey on March 09, 2014, 03:14:20 AM
Really,seems kinda strange doesn't it? I mean,just shrink wrap protecting it.Doesn't have to be the best frame, but at the very least something protecting it.What if it fell onto something sharp? There's so many bad things that could happen.Seems like an unnecessary risk.

Anthony

maybe Todd is a thrill-seeker

 ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2014, 03:30:33 PM
And yet another great has re-appeared... The Bride of Frank teaser...   bed1

BIN: $1.5 million (or make an offer)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=380857308020&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_3-4_zps5b7be5c6.jpg)
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Post by: Silhouette on March 09, 2014, 04:01:00 PM
Hmmm, the line "...YOU'LL DIE WAITING FOR ANOTHER..."

Personally his threatening tone is a worry, who is he - the Angel of Death?  :P
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 09, 2014, 07:04:59 PM
That posting is asinine in so many ways:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Ad.jpg)
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on March 09, 2014, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2014, 03:25:50 AM
maybe Todd is a thrill-seeker

 ;D

Haha,danger is his middle name! I know if that was me,it would've never made twenty years without getting hit by something.
That's why I woulda framed it. ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
It must be a Universal horror love fest going on, over on the bay! From Benito. Yet another spectacular (imo) French 1P, for Bride of Frankenstein (1935). Beautiful art by Koutachy.  bed1  

The image of the small, dancing ballerina in the jar behind and in between Karloff and Lanchester is a great, added touch, too.

BIN: only $70,000.00  ;)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151209518876&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-7_zpsda274303.jpg)
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Post by: rdavey26 on March 09, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Love that poster Jeff. Thanks for sharing. To bad it cost so much.
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Post by: Silhouette on March 10, 2014, 02:41:52 AM
Sadly, looks like someone is about to be screwed over.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PETER-PAN-Walt-Disney-1969-Rare-Original-Vintage-Daybill-Movie-Poster-Print-/261415575023?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cdd951def&_uhb=1
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Post by: guest4185 on March 10, 2014, 07:31:31 AM
Take a 0 off that Peter Pan and it might be an OK buy. I think I've got 3 of them!
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Post by: crowzilla on March 10, 2014, 10:48:26 AM
Quote from: movieposterodyssey on March 09, 2014, 03:14:20 AM
Really,seems kinda strange doesn't it? I mean,just shrink wrap protecting it.Doesn't have to be the best frame, but at the very least something protecting it.What if it fell onto something sharp? There's so many bad things that could happen.Seems like an unnecessary risk.

Again, it was only hung up to shoot the video. Most of the time it is kept stored away.
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Post by: rdavey26 on March 10, 2014, 03:48:27 PM
Quote from: Silhouette on March 10, 2014, 02:41:52 AM
Sadly, looks like someone is about to be screwed over.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PETER-PAN-Walt-Disney-1969-Rare-Original-Vintage-Daybill-Movie-Poster-Print-/261415575023?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cdd951def&_uhb=1
No doubt I would hate to be them.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
Rich, is this the same The Searchers US HS that you sold, back in June?:

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=231032133005&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

BIN: $2300.00

The pre-restoration description seems to match your images: "The poster had a number of small creases especially in the top area. There were a few small pieces of tape on the edges of the poster. The back had paper tape on the top and bottom borders and the vertical/horizontal folds."

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/searchers_strip_zps6002593a.jpg)

And Mario Cueva is also named as the one who did the restoration work.



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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 12, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
yes it is.. poster looks great
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Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2014, 03:17:32 PM
Sure does.

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Post by: Charlie on March 12, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
Uh oh~  :o

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161411&lotNo=53348
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Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
Very nice!!

Another French 2P for Cleopatra, and already backed.

BIN: $4995.00 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=290781763196&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg
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Post by: CSM on March 12, 2014, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie on March 12, 2014, 03:18:13 PM
Uh oh~  :o

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161411&lotNo=53348

Should probably PM that to Dave so he can get his markup calculator some more use
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Post by: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
Why is it that these sorts of finds always seem to be made by nearly clueless non-collectors?!

From Grey's MoPo post:

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83590  etc...

Justin Hall and his wife Katie, both 27 years old, discovered the posters after
they moved into a fixer-upper late last year. When a pawn shop offered Hall a
fast $500 sight unseen for the dusty box he pulled from the garage attic,
something told him the posters - which date between 1895 and 1918 - might be
more valuable than he initially thought.

"One afternoon we started looking through them and right away we noticed the
color on some of them is amazing," said Hall, an engineer. "Some of them my
wife loved and wanted to mount and hang on the walls. All that changed when we
learned they may be worth a few thousand dollars apiece. My father-in-law asked
if he could research them and he did the leg work and learned a lot."
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Post by: brude on March 14, 2014, 11:39:42 PM
Only the good die young, Chris.  wynk
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Post by: erik1925 on March 14, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
Why is it that these sorts of finds always seem to be made by nearly clueless non-collectors?!


Were you always all knowing? (be honest)

 ;D
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Post by: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:56:09 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 14, 2014, 11:42:08 PM
Were you always all knowing? (be honest)

 ;D

Of course not but the finders were not collectors and still appear not to be - that's the difference
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 15, 2014, 12:00:28 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:56:09 PM
Of course not but the finders were not collectors and still appear not to be - that's the difference

oh so what.. stop being jealous

I don't care who finds a Frankenstein poster or a King Kong or Jazz Singer.. good for them

thank heaven the posters were found and not thrown away <<<<<<<< that would have been the crime
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Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 12:10:12 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 15, 2014, 12:00:28 AM
oh so what.. stop being jealous

I don't care who finds a Frankenstein poster or a King Kong or Jazz Singer.. good for them

thank heaven the posters were found and not thrown away <<<<<<<< that would have been the crime

I was replying to Jeff's message specifically.  But you'd think since collectors or people with knowledge are actively looking for this stuff there would be more cases of those "kind" of people making the finds.  Unless they go unreported because they don't make for good copy.

You can't tell me Richard 'Mr. Altruistic' Halegua would not love to make even a lesser find such as this. Unless you're satisfied with your stacks and stacks of Pulp Fictions?

No jealousy on my part just an observation/comment on who seems to be making these finds...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 12:33:44 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:56:09 PM
Of course not, but the finders were not collectors and still appear not to be - that's the difference

Why is that a difference? Who cares who discovers them? They were saved, is all that matters.

Had they been so  called "collectors"... i might have raised my own uni-brow.

 ;D








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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 15, 2014, 12:38:34 AM
I could care less if other people find stuff. I can't find everything and I find my share and probably have found more than my share in the past.

the fact that the material is saved from destruction is more important than any other factor

My position is, just like when I'm trying to complete a collection and the person who owns some item won't sell it, is "well as long as it exists I have an opportunity maybe to get it"

If other people get to make some money, good for them.. There's plenty out there for everyone.

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Post by: crowzilla on March 15, 2014, 12:57:54 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 14, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
Why is it that these sorts of finds always seem to be made by nearly clueless non-collectors?!
 

I wonder if it has to do anything with the population of the US being 300 million plus, and there being something like 10,000 collectors tops?

So..math,math,math - since the odds are only 1 in 30,000 that any random person collects it is really more of a surprise that any collectors actually discover anything.

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Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 12:59:53 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 12:33:44 AM
Why is that a difference? Who cares who discovers them? They were saved, is all that matters.

Had they been so  called "collectors"... i might have raised my own uni-brow.

 ;D

I was speaking to the use of "clueless" and your question about knowledge that you highlighted from my first post.

It's hard to have a great deal of knowledge without being a collector or perhaps 'without being involved in the hobby' is perhaps a better way to put it.

The finders were clueless when they found the posters and I wager they didn't become collectors or part of the hobby afterwards - unless you want to count their contribution in selling the posters through Heritage.

You guys are really missing my point/thought/observation...I agree it's nice the stuff was found and saved.  But why does it seem the majority of these finds are made by people outside the hobby?  
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Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 01:04:12 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 15, 2014, 12:57:54 AM
I wonder if it has to do anything with the population of the US being 300 million plus, and there being something like 10,000 collectors tops?

So..math,math,math - since the odds are only 1 in 30,000 that any random person collects it is really more of a surprise that any collectors actually discover anything.



You've got to factor the accidental-stumble-upon-I-have-no-idea-what-these-are-finds vs. the hobbyist actively-searching-under-rocks-and-in-old-barns portion of the equation which clearly skews the numbers beyond a pure population % over chance argument.

Plus the US of A is but one of many countries where movie posters may be found by local yokels if you didn't realize that...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:06:09 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2014, 12:59:53 AM
I was speaking to the use of "clueless" and your question about knowledge that you highlighted from my first post.

It's hard to have a great deal of knowledge without being a collector or perhaps 'without being involved in the hobby' is perhaps a better way to put it.

The finders were clueless when they found the posters and I wager they didn't become collectors or part of the hobby afterwards - unless you want to count their contribution in selling the posters through Heritage.

You guys are really missing my point/thought/observation...I agree it's nice the stuff was found and saved.  But why does it seem the majority of these finds are made by people outside the hobby?  

For the reasons Sean stated.. simple math.

The movie poster collector "populace", in the big picture, is small. So, the odds are, that those tripping across this stuff, in basements, attics, or garages, when clearing a house, is likely to be greater.



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Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:10:24 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2014, 01:04:12 AM
You've got to factor the accidental-stumble-upon-I-have-no-idea-what-these-are-finds vs. the hobbyist actively-searching-under-rocks-and-in-old-barns portion of the equation which clearly skews the numbers beyond a pure population % over chance argument.

Plus the US of A is but one of many countries where movie posters may be found by local yokels if you didn't realize that...

Get back to us on the stats of Canadian poster finds of note, OK?  ;)

(These interesting anecdotes are what the history of the hobby is all about, anyhow.)



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Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 01:12:34 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:10:24 AM
Get back to us on the stats of Canadian poster finds of note, OK?  ;)

(These interesting anecdotes are what the history of the hobby is all about, anyhow.)





Sure thing...even if it somewhat counters my original observation (although the work crew could be construed as my clueless yokels ;) ):



Jon Warren's text on the "Royal Theater Collection":

The Royal Theater Collection -- Jon R. Warren
--------------------------------------------------------

Kirby, Sol Candell, Bruce, Morris and (if he reads MPT) Todd will have fun contributing to this thread and reminiscing about this great find.

In 1990 or 91, can't remember now, a group of investors and I purchased what has come to be called the Canadian Collection for $320,000 (or somewhere around there, something over $300,000 but I don't recall the exact amount).

I flew up there, inspected the collection, and paid the cashier's check to THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT!

The collection was a matter of legal dispute over who owned the posters...so the collection was sold and, pending the outcome of the court, the proceeds were to be paid to the winner of the argument.

In a small town in Canada named Provost there once was a theater called The Royal Theater (what a great name!). The posters found there truly were royal.

The theater had been in the family since the 1920s, and in the late 1980s it had been sold to a new owner who was renovating it to be turned into a video store.

In the process of tearing out walls, lo and behold, a closet was found with a door in the floor which led down into a long-lost basement. In the basement were piles upon piles of old movie posters, dating from about 1929 and going through about 1950. From this time period, virtually every film that had been released was represented by multiple one sheets, lobby card sets, and (oddly enough) mini window cards. Even more astounding was the condition of the posters. Because of the dark and dry and cool conditions, the posters were in simply unbelievable condition (except for those that had what we called rat piss on them, yellow streaks of...well...rat piss). Pristine white borders without the slightest trace of yellowing. Brilliant colors that practically glowed. And the smell...ahh that faint musty scent...

Stacks and stacks, multiple copies, mint sets of Casablanca, Hound of the Baskervilles, Adventures of Robin Hood... you name it, it was there. Except for Universal horror, which was oddly not represented at all. Some have speculated that the Universal horror films were not shown in Canada due to censors. Others have speculated that the Universal horror WAS there, and that what the police confiscated and sold to me and my group was really just the tip of the iceberg. If so, what a tip!

Now, the new owner had told the work crew to clear the place out, to gut it, and to get rid of all the accumulated junk and trash.

So they did. But on the way to the dump one of the workers got the bright idea that the posters might have value. They decided to keep them and take them to the flea market that Saturday. And that was when the troubles began. Little did they know that by doing so they were breaking Canadian law.

Some of the others can chip in here, for the details of that Saturday, exactly how Sol Candell became involved, and other facts in the early discovery of the posters is a bit vague for me after all these years.

I remember that somehow Candell (coincidentally?) was at the flea market, that they started something called the Edmonton Poster Society, that a TV news show spotlighted the society, which was how the original theater owners and the new theater owners came to find out they had been ripped off (really now, they didn't even know the posters were there and besides, had given instructions to throw out the trash), but nevertheless, after the news show exclaimed how wonderful and possibly valuable these posters could be all hell broke loose and a war over the posters began.

The first thing that happened was the new owner had the work crew members arrested for theft. One of the work crew, a Daniel Pelletier (I believe his first name was Daniel, might have been David) was mentally unstable, or on medication which he failed to get while in jail. He committed suicide. He couldn't live with the idea of going to jail for something he did not even know was against the law.

The police confiscated the posters, and it was these confiscations that my group purchased from the court. But, I have heard that only part of the posters were at the home where the police raid occurred and that a larger portion were elsewhere at the time, either at Sol Candell's or somewhere else.

The poster collecting world first became aware of the Canadian collection when Sol Candell ran a small ad in Movie Collector's World (I would love a copy of that issue) offering classic titles for dirt cheap prices. Poor Sol had no idea of the true value of some of these gems. He was selling Adventures of Robin Hood one sheets for $200, classic Temples and Garbos for $100, and so on. Maltese Falcon, mint, $50. That kind of thing.

A mle ensued.

Kirby McDaniel, Morris Everett, and Gary Vaughn were among the first callers, being so smart that they regularly had their copies of MCW delivered via Federal Express just for such eventualities. Todd Feiertag didn't bother to call. He hopped in his car and drove to Edmonton! Some wonder what Universal horrors the master Universal horror collector may or may not have obtained during this trip. Can you say Mummy?

A significant number of posters were sold to collectors all around the world as a result of that ad, and they all came to be named in the lawsuit. It seemed the Canadian government demanded the return of the posters under penalty of law!

Of course, the letters demanding the return of posters fell on reluctant collector ears, all of whom promptly filed the letters in file 13.

Before long, the law raided Sol Candell's place and confiscated his remaining posters, but not before a significant number were sold. And probably not before the work crew called and alerted him, giving him plenty of time to haul off a large bulk and store them in a secure, un-police-raided place.

Somewhere, about here, in this timeline, one of the workers (or someone, I can't remember the exact details) drove to Sol Candell's and demanded the return of the posters which had been given to Sol for consignment (these were the ones Sol was selling in MCW). According to legend, the story that was told to me, this person was found dead in his car on the side of the road a few days later. No posters were in his car. After getting posters from Sol, what happened to the young man? Had someone been casing Sol's place, waiting to rob him, and then followed the man who had loaded the piles of posters into his car? No one knows. The posters he took away that day were never found.

I received a letter in the mail from the Royal Canadian Government, notifying me of their intent to accept bids for the enclosed list of movie posters. It seems that the court was soliciting bids from major advertisers for the sale of the posters.

The list was, to put it mildly, mind blowing. After calculating conservatively, I figured the value of the collection to be worth more than $900,000. Way too rich for my blood, alone. But I had friends. After some convincing and arm twisting (they came into the deal kicking and screaming) they agreed to put in enough money to make a realistic bid. Steve Geppi was the largest investor, I was second, Steve Fishler was third, and Mark Wilson was the fourth investor.

The gossip and grapevine rattling surrounding the rumors of who was bidding and how much they were going to bid is a story unto itself. We were trying to reconnoiter bids so that we could top the second bid by the least amount possible. But it was Steve Geppi who said, to hell with it, let's not gamble, bid enough that we get it and don't worry about bidding too much more than the second guy.

We won the bid.

Mark Wilson and I went to Edmonton to take possession. I spent several days going through the collection, a time I will never forget. This was poster heaven. I mean, it was beyond my wildest dreams to ever get to see such gorgeous posters, much less own them. Mark and I kept shaking our heads at the incredible condition. And at the incredible titles.

Who won the lawsuit? What do you think? Did the original owner sell the real estate AND contents, or just the real estate. Who did the posters belong to? Who got the money? I'll tell you one thing: the workers didn't get it, they got criminal records instead.

Turns out, believe it or not, that the ORIGINAL OWNERS got the money. The new owner bought the real estate, but all the junk and papers abandoned inside were the property of the original owner until the second they hit the junkyard, at which time they would have became public domain.

Just think, if the workers had dumped the posters at the dump and then came back later and retrieved them they would have been the proud owners, legally, of a bunch of movie posters. But since they waylaid them prior to the dumping, they were thieves. Ironic, huh?

Over the next year or two we sold the collection. We recouped our investment within six months. My investors were extremely happy. They all now liked movie posters very much. Steve Fishler liked them so much he started collecting them. He has amassed quite a collection since that day in Tennessee when we decided to become partners and buy a collection in Canada. His collection includes a little poster we fondly call the Frankenstein six sheet.

How he came to own that six sheet is another story, quite different from the version we have seen on television. The poster was not found in a locked suitcase.

But that's another story. And I'm not at liberty to divulge, unfortunately, for it's a great yarn and spans the globe.

Jon R. Warren
Warren's Movie Poster Price Guide
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Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:28:44 AM
A great find for sure...   clap

But anything since then (1990-91)?

(The point being... regardless of country found... these items HAVE been re-discovered and rescued!)

;D
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Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:28:44 AM
A great find for sure...   clap

But anything since then (1990-91)?

(The point being... regardless of country found... these items HAVE been re-discovered and rescued!)

;D

No...because we are ALL collectors up here  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 01:50:10 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
No...because we are ALL collectors up here  ;D

Tell that to the Queen.

 qip

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Post by: brude on March 15, 2014, 04:49:08 AM
Non-collectors who find poster gold mines is irony, plain and simple.
I love it.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
Such a great looking poster for The Body Snatcher (1945), with Karloff and Lugosi.

Open at $3299.00 / BIN $4299.00  

:o

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=231181771135&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqVnMFBkEtlQgiBQcmOSOo4w60_1_zps5ffb1715.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on March 18, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
I assume the shocked face is because you are amazed that they could ask so much for a poster that has had that much restoration?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 18, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
there is a window card for $160 on eBay.. much better deal
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Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2014, 02:45:32 PM
Or opt for the cool looking 1952RR 40x60, for only $1750.00

(Described as "Very Good Plus with Restoration.")

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=261408835976&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-9_zps28bf5847.jpg)



OR



the 1952RR Insert, for a mere $480.00 BIN (on sale and marked down from 6 bills).  ;D

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=310247676671&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BbEZwBmkKGrHqEOKjsEzFffEK6BBMnSJJ6Ng_3_zps11bf367b.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on March 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
The WC is definitely the best deal, but if I was going to way overpay for any of the three Jeff posted I guess it would be for the 40x60.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 18, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 18, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
The WC is definitely the best deal, but if I was going to way overpay for any of the three Jeff posted I guess it would be for the 40x60.

yeah that is cool
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Post by: CSM on March 19, 2014, 12:23:37 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 18, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
I assume the shocked face is because you are amazed that they could ask so much for a poster that has had that much restoration?

There is definitely some terrible restoration going on in the borders...
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2014, 12:40:55 AM
More Bela... this is also one sweet looking OS, for The Return of the Vampire (Columbia, 1943):   cool1

BIN: $2650.00

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=261427258152&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-9_zps92d36fb8.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on March 19, 2014, 01:06:22 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 19, 2014, 12:23:37 AM
There is definitely some terrible restoration going on in the borders...

Not just the borders, I consider that work inside the image to all be sub-standard also.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
Yes, this cross fold repair does look a bit mismatched, color-wise. The description mentions that this restoration was done 18 years ago. ("It (the restoration) was done about 18 years ago and it has been in a storage tube for most of the time since...")

Can areas of retouching or the medium used to do the fold retouches, slightly change in color over time? I'm sure it would very much depend on what was used, the brand (quality) etc.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqJrIFBPSRPYLBQcmSEuwq60_58_zpsd6a20bed.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on March 19, 2014, 12:51:04 PM
Nasty!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2014, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 18, 2014, 02:31:13 PM
I assume the shocked face is because you are amazed that they could ask so much for a poster that has had that much restoration?

The seller does mention that the poster was re-touched along many of the cross fold areas and fold lines, as it seemed to be in a rather delicate state, prior to it being backed:

"There was a bit general wear present before doing a restoration which was as much of a stabilization. The top and bottom cross folds were very fragile and rather than having the piece separate I chose to place it on linen. There is a bit of a touch-up along the fold lines as well as the center cross-folds areas and is shown in my Gallery Pics."

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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2014, 04:36:46 PM
Wow!  bed1

Jumbo WC for Cleopatra (1934)

BIN: $1699.00

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=271426961574&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-9_zps8b191367.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 19, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
if you like Claudette, you probably will like this 1930s era theatre painting I've had for almost 30 years

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/comicartcom/schuesler_art_001_zps900462b1.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2014, 04:57:59 PM
Beautiful, Rich.

Is it signed? Or do you know who the artist was? Is this an oil? Or a photo, that was retouched and overlaid with soft washes of color (as was often done back in those days, and earlier in the 20th C).



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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 19, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Ernest Schuessler did about 40-50 of such pieces for a theatre in the Chicago-Milwaukee area
they lined a long hallway to the theatre area
in the 1970s a flea market dealer bought them when the theatre was renovating & sold them.
Collectors saw the guy and bought lots.

I got 3 (Gable, Harlow) from a friend who had them in his comics & posters Saloon that was next to his comic shop (get drunk, buy comics)

about 22x28 or so, each is painted in oils over an oversized photograph mounted to a canvas
the damn photos would probably be worth 3-10k each today
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Post by: Matt on March 20, 2014, 07:02:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1)

Quote from the seller. eyeroll

Quote
I cannot find anywhere on the net, an identical poster. Absolute one of. Feel free to prove me wrong.


Ummmm....maybe 10 km away.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1)
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Post by: Silhouette on March 20, 2014, 07:22:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 20, 2014, 07:02:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1)

Quote from the seller. eyeroll


Ummmm....maybe 10 km away.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1)

hahaha
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Post by: brude on March 20, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 19, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
if you like Claudette, you probably will like this 1930s era theatre painting I've had for almost 30 years

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/comicartcom/schuesler_art_001_zps900462b1.jpg)

That's a beauty.
Is it on the wall?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 20, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
not currently. Not a whole lot is right now at all, and no art at all is, just posters and only 3sheets & the size poster Thierry hates
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Post by: guest4185 on March 21, 2014, 03:53:55 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 20, 2014, 07:02:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-and-Gretel-daybill-Poster-Era-50s-/261428851275?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item3cde5fb24b&_uhb=1)

Quote from the seller. eyeroll


Ummmm....maybe 10 km away.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hansel-And-Gretel-1954-AUS-DB-RKO-/160843589185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573066641&_uhb=1)

There are a couple around 220km further away as well. At least the price is starting to come down. It was $500 and BIN $1000
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Post by: paul waines on March 21, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 19, 2014, 04:53:34 PM
if you like Claudette, you probably will like this 1930s era theatre painting I've had for almost 30 years

(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/comicartcom/schuesler_art_001_zps900462b1.jpg)

This is awful Rich, Send it to me straight away, I'll dispose of it for you.   wynk
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Post by: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 19, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Ernest Schuessler did about 40-50 of such pieces for a theatre in the Chicago-Milwaukee area
they lined a long hallway to the theatre area
in the 1970s a flea market dealer bought them when the theatre was renovating & sold them.
Collectors saw the guy and bought lots.

I got 3 (Gable, Harlow) from a friend who had them in his comics & posters Saloon that was next to his comic shop (get drunk, buy comics)

about 22x28 or so, each is painted in oils over an oversized photograph mounted to a canvas
the damn photos would probably be worth 3-10k each today

I used to go to all the Milwaukee theaters as a kid in the '50s.  I have some vague memories of stuff like this hanging in one of the downtown theaters, perhaps the old Warner/Strand.  But a kid like me wasn't mostly interested in stars from the 30's unless they had a horse or rocket ship.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 02:20:25 PM
I used to go to all the Milwaukee theaters as a kid in the '50s.  I have some vague memories of stuff like this hanging in one of the downtown theaters, perhaps the old Warner/Strand.  But a kid like me wasn't mostly interested in stars from the 30's unless they had a horse or rocket ship.

did you know Dale Manessis
he's teh guy who had the comic book & paper store next to his bar
the combined unit was called the Good Old Days
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Post by: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
did you know Dale Manessis
he's teh guy who had the comic book & paper store next to his bar
the combined unit was called the Good Old Days

Doesn't ring a bell, but I left town in the mid-70s, and was in the military from 69-72.  Good Old Days sounds like something that would have emerged in the 80s.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 03:05:16 PM
nope.. Dale opened that place in the 1960s
it was North of the city in the suburbs. I'd been there a number of times, but it's so long ago & I never visited the city except to see Dale, so I don't know the layout.
it only closed in the early 90s
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Post by: rdavey26 on March 21, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 02:49:14 PM
Doesn't ring a bell, but I left town in the mid-70s, and was in the military from 69-72.  Good Old Days sounds like something that would have emerged in the 80s.
He was ahead of his time  ;D
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Post by: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
Well, I'll be damned.  His shop was about a mile south of my parent's photography studio.  It was also a block north of my favorite old movie palace, the Tower Theater.  The tower closed in the late '60s so that could very well be where he got the paintings from.

That would have been the sort of shop I would have dropped in to, but I have no memory.  The Milwaukee Public Museum does though.  They have a dozen photos of him and his shop here: http://content.mpl.org/cdm/search/collection/HstoricPho/searchterm/Dale!good%20old%20days%20%28milwaukee,%20wis.%29/field/all!subjec/mode/any!all/conn/and!and/cosuppress/
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
and the fellow in the photo is Dale.

but no, the paintings didn't come from that theatre, or if they did, not directly to Dale.

the paintings were bought by a flea market dealer and pieced out to others. Dale bought some, I know other guys that also bought some

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
Heritage already has a very strong price on 50 Foot Woman 3sh
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83336
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Post by: Matt on March 21, 2014, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: Rick on March 21, 2014, 03:53:55 AM
There are a couple around 220km further away as well. At least the price is starting to come down. It was $500 and BIN $1000

Oh good someone messaged the seller, more of reasonable price now.

There's another one 20km away....up to 5 now and we haven't left the State of Victoria. ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on March 21, 2014, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 21, 2014, 05:21:27 PM
Oh good someone messaged the seller, more of reasonable price now.

There's another one 20km away....up to 5 now and we haven't left the State of Victoria. ;D

Matt, yep... 'twas me. His comment about "prove me wrong" was my inspiration.

And he actually appreciated the info, knowing there was another -- and just around the corner, too.
That's when he re-set his prices.  thumbup

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 21, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Looks like he's actually selling it this time: (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Where-danger-livesMitchumDomergueBest-Film-noir-PosterSexyRAREUS-3-SHEET-/360887216631?&autorefresh=true)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Mitchum.jpg)
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 21, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 21, 2014, 07:42:20 PM
Looks like he's actually selling it this time: (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Where-danger-livesMitchumDomergueBest-Film-noir-PosterSexyRAREUS-3-SHEET-/360887216631?&autorefresh=true)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Mitchum.jpg)

OMG I can't believe you outed that poster!  This is gonna drive drive up the price or increase the competition (or both)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Crying.gif)
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Post by: 50s on March 21, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
^ For all you newbies that don't know what is going on... After a while, people who post here often start talking to themselves, I assume because they don't expect a response but really want one bad


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Post by: Charlie on March 21, 2014, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 21, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
^ For all you newbies that don't know what is going on... After a while, people who post here often start talking to themselves, I assume because they don't expect a response but really want one bad




 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1
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Post by: CSM on March 21, 2014, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on March 21, 2014, 03:29:06 PM
Well, I'll be damned.  His shop was about a mile south of my parent's photography studio.  It was also a block north of my favorite old movie palace, the Tower Theater.  The tower closed in the late '60s so that could very well be where he got the paintings from.

That would have been the sort of shop I would have dropped in to, but I have no memory.  The Milwaukee Public Museum does though.  They have a dozen photos of him and his shop here: http://content.mpl.org/cdm/search/collection/HstoricPho/searchterm/Dale!good%20old%20days%20%28milwaukee,%20wis.%29/field/all!subjec/mode/any!all/conn/and!and/cosuppress/

Wish there were more pics of the interior
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Post by: CSM on March 21, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
I bet the 2/3 Where Danger Lives will get pulled before it closes...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2014, 09:47:01 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 21, 2014, 09:28:34 PM
Wish there were more pics of the interior

there's a good chance I have some old polaroids in a packed up box.
if I ever find them, I'll post
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Post by: pratschm on March 22, 2014, 01:02:15 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 21, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
I bet the 2/3 Where Danger Lives will get pulled before it closes...

The standard 'error in the listing' routine.
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Post by: Zorba on March 22, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
Quote from: 50s on March 21, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
^ For all you newbies that don't know what is going on... After a while, people who post here often start talking to themselves, I assume because they don't expect a response but really want one bad




 ;D

Thanks Steve.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 22, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 21, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
I bet the 2/3 Where Danger Lives will get pulled before it closes...

Yes, I believe this is a fake sale. Nevertheless, I intend to bid a reasonable amount, so I've "outed" a poster against my own interest.
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Post by: paul waines on March 22, 2014, 01:05:07 PM
There's a first for everything... ;)

I may bid myself. :D
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Post by: CSM on March 22, 2014, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 22, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Yes, I believe this is a fake sale. Nevertheless, I intend to bid a reasonable amount, so I've "outed" a poster against my own interest.

You're still left with only 2/3 of a poster.  Should you win (and the sale actually goes through) what will you do about the missing 1/3?  A high quality print?
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Post by: paul waines on March 22, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Some of these part posters are good enough as is Chris, I have a few myself.

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Post by: CSM on March 22, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 22, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Some of these part posters are good enough as is Chris, I have a few myself.



Pas de Melvin cinq étoiles
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 26, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 22, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Yes, I believe this is a fake sale. Nevertheless, I intend to bid a reasonable amount, so I've "outed" a poster against my own interest.

Yep, cancelled

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360887216631
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Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2014, 09:28:34 PM
This folded Jaws OS was posted to MOPO several days ago by the seller, himself (so has already been dispersed to MANY poster collectors' eyes).

I wonder if the lower right corner nick/chip will also nick its final bid price?  :-\

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=161257854918&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-7_zps31cf45b9.jpg)



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Post by: eatbrie on March 26, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
I wouldn't buy it in this condition.  Too many mint copies floating around.

T
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Post by: jayn_j on March 27, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 26, 2014, 09:30:41 PM
I wouldn't buy it in this condition.  Too many mint copies floating around.

T

In my mind, this is perfect condition.  Just enough weathering and pinholes to show it was a legitimate theatrical display, but in very presentable position.  A poster that hasn't been displayed is no different than a repro in my mind.
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Post by: Ari on March 27, 2014, 09:28:52 AM
^ here here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 27, 2014, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on March 27, 2014, 08:27:27 AM
In my mind, this is perfect condition.  Just enough weathering and pinholes to show it was a legitimate theatrical display, but in very presentable position.  A poster that hasn't been displayed is no different than a repro in my mind.

This is an interesting point, and actually I found myself agreeing to it, with the exception of recalled posters.

I love posters to show their age and life- as much as I like people to do the same. Yes, not keen on botox.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 27, 2014, 12:57:36 PM
I guess paper fills can sort of seem the same as wrinkle fillers or collagen injections to fill out cheeks or lips.  ;D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 29, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Gotta love it when people who may have gotten an HA catalog for free, then do the old quick flip for profit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HERITAGE-november-16-17-2013-AUCTION-CATALOGUE-MINT-/181364215361?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3a264e41
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 29, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
I like mine. I actually think they are a great source of info- HA cats  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 29, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
True... not everyone wants to keep them for reference... and many do have to purchase them from HA... when new they are about 50.00?

So, i guess, in a way, there is savings here to a stranger who might want a copy.

Or offer it to friends for free...  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2014, 04:58:53 PM
some people do not bid with Heritage and sell the catalogs, making a revenue stream out of Heritage's costs
generally speaking when you see the catalogs listed on ebay that is what the situation is.

I do not know any bidder who doesn't keep the catalogs
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on March 29, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
Does anyone have recent Hakes catalogs? looking for #210 I believe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 29, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2014, 04:58:53 PM
some people do not bid with Heritage and sell the catalogs, making a revenue stream out of Heritage's costs
generally speaking when you see the catalogs listed on ebay that is what the situation is.

I do not know any bidder who doesn't keep the catalogs

I don't keep them.  I've given all mine away. Everything goes into the ol' digital collection.

 Pretty Heritage stops sending catalogs a couple of cycles after you stop bidding.  ATLFun Brian stopped receiving them pretty quickly even though he spent big bucks there.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2014, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 29, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
I don't keep them.  I've given all mine away. Everything goes into the ol' digital collection.

 Pretty Heritage stops sending catalogs a couple of cycles after you stop bidding.  ATLFun Brian stopped receiving them pretty quickly even though he spent big bucks there.

you would be one of the few I know.
of course, the collectors I know are mostly 10 years older than you and us old school guys like keeping things to reference easily, or we like looking at them to see what a great package that auction was etc
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 29, 2014, 08:46:57 PM
^ Some of us just like paper I guess. I rather have a library at home with 100 books than ipad with 3k e-books. So I will keep the HA-CATs (no other cats allowed) ;)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 29, 2014, 08:46:57 PM
^ Some of us just like paper I guess. I rather have a library at home with 100 books than ipad with 3k e-books. So I will keep the HA-CATs (no other cats allowed) ;)





and she likes Bogie also!
 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 29, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 29, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
and she likes Bogie also!
 bed1

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
I wish you freakin' people would stop bidding on the stuff I want:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Bids_zpse2758f60.jpg) (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/Forty_Candles/media/2012/Bids_zpse2758f60.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 31, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
Ah, yes, Kiss of Death.  Never seen the flick but I got this amazingly rare French poster by Soubie a few months ago.  Never sold anywhere (Heritage sold a vastly inferior re-release version twice). 

Far superior to the American one, imho.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3812/13549093064_2a824e89ef.jpg)

T
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Post by: Zorba on March 31, 2014, 09:07:48 PM

They are all over this one now.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
I wish you freakin' people would stop bidding on the stuff I want:


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yGRYA1WukWI/UzoQwklgGMI/AAAAAAAAHF8/WKs0sScux1Q/s1152/Fullscreen%2520capture%25203312014%252080441%2520PM.jpg?gl=US)
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Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2014, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: Zorba on March 31, 2014, 09:07:48 PM
They are all over this one now.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
I wish you freakin' people would stop bidding on the stuff I want:


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yGRYA1WukWI/UzoQwklgGMI/AAAAAAAAHF8/WKs0sScux1Q/s1152/Fullscreen%2520capture%25203312014%252080441%2520PM.jpg?gl=US)

Never underestimate the power of a naked pretty lady!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on March 31, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
I cannot remember for the life of me who was looking for a one sheet of the Love Factor (aka Zeta One) but there is one on eBay right now for not to bad of a price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Love-Factor-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Original-/321363460552?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad2c141c8
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 31, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
Ah, yes, Kiss of Death.  Never seen the flick but I got this amazingly rare French poster by Soubie a few months ago.  Never sold anywhere (Heritage sold a vastly inferior re-release version twice). 

Far superior to the American one, imho.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3812/13549093064_2a824e89ef.jpg)

T

It is striking for sure and even better because Widmark is portrayed.

However, the black & white US one sheet is an iconic noir poster...just about the perfect portrayal of "noir" in poster art
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 01, 2014, 12:36:32 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 31, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
However, the black & white US one sheet is an iconic noir poster...just about the perfect portrayal of "noir" in poster art

totally agree. the US poster is one of the few that speaks right to the genre

the French poster shown above, while  a very nice poster doesn't really capture it
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 01, 2014, 01:57:07 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 01, 2014, 12:36:32 AM
totally agree.

Let's just agree to completely disagree, then.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 01, 2014, 02:48:36 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 01, 2014, 01:57:07 AM
Let's just agree to completely disagree, then.

 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2 gun2
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 01, 2014, 07:56:55 PM
Dancing Pirate, I hardly knew you.  I loved you until you hit $1,000 but now it's just too much baby:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3354627

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Dancing%20Pirate.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 01, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
I'm completely sitting out of this one.

Do I need to say why?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 01, 2014, 08:00:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 01, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
I'm completely sitting out of this one.

Dare I need to say why?

T

Maybe linen doesn't love you either!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 01, 2014, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 01, 2014, 08:00:42 PM
Maybe linen doesn't love you either!

Man, I can tell you one thing, if these were folded, I would be all over them.

Btw, Schindler's List... $3k?   hitself
Title: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 02, 2014, 11:16:57 PM
Let the outing begin!!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
Drum roll!!

 cheers
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 02, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
These are extremely rare pieces....you may never get another chance!!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080)


http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077)





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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 02, 2014, 11:24:25 PM
These are extremely rare pieces....you may never get another chance!!


http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080)



http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077)

(this is probably gonna get moved)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2014, 11:57:43 PM
Speaking of million dollar-priced items:

Lobby card set  for Frankenstein:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-1931-BORIS-KARLOFF-MINT-LOBBY-CARD-SET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/380874377161?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58ade1c7c9

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zpsb93cbeeb.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: CSM on April 03, 2014, 12:00:34 AM
Amazing that the envelope survived...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: erik1925 on April 03, 2014, 12:03:55 AM
I know, Chris.

That, to me, is very much an added, little perk.

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Post by: eatbrie on April 03, 2014, 12:25:13 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 03, 2014, 12:03:55 AM
I know, Chris.

That, to me, is very much an added, little perk.



And the shipping... the shipping is free!   

qip qip qip qip qip
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Post by: jayn_j on April 03, 2014, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 02, 2014, 11:24:25 PM
These are extremely rare pieces....you may never get another chance!!


http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365080)



http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3365077)

(this is probably gonna get moved)

You see that at least once an auction.  Part of the marketing hype.  The point is that although these may never be seen again, other similar items will appear over time.  Personally, I never let the rarity hype rule over my aesthetic sense when bidding.  The Alice one is nice, and I may bid if it stays low, but it won't.  And there are many others I want.

Basically, if it is worth over $100 to you, then I am not your competition.

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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
" The point is that although these may never be seen again"



Thanks for agreeing with me....the point is.... that's the point!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on April 03, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
" The point is that although these may never be seen again"



Thanks for agreeing with me....the point is.... that's the point!!!

Understood the point.  If these speak to you, then go for them.  My point is a little different.  Don't go for them just because they are one of a kind, unless they truly do speak to you.  An item may be one of a kind, but there are collectively LOTS of items that are one of a kind.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 03, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
um, Jay, I believe he is hawking his own items.......
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
Hahaha...not exactly

Actually I have never owned anything from the Scarlet Empress in my entire life...although that jumbo lobby card is gorgeous....

I happen to really like Jumbo Lobby cards a lot!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 03, 2014, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
Hahaha...not exactly

Actually I have never owned anything from the Scarlet Empress in my entire life...although that jumbo lobby card is gorgeous....

I happen to really like Jumbo Lobby cards a lot!!


that's what it looked like
but yes, those are nice pieces. years ago I would have loved to own the Dietrich piece, but I've since stopped collecting many areas
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 06:00:38 PM

And speaking of jumbo lobby cards...

2013 was quite the year for jumbo lobby cards with those Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde cards going richter!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 03, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
if yuo wanted to see JLC's, the place to be was Cinevent last year
Morrie Everett had an 8 inch deep box full of them and lots of unbelievable stuff

he had more in that one box than I have seen in my entire life
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
Damn...I am jealous.. :'(..Yeah Morrie and I are constantly in bidding wars over classic comedy ephemera...
Did he have any Paramount Marx Bros. material?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 04, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
The James Bond auction over at eMovie is pretty great, very fun just to even browse through. Put together really well, top to bottom.

However, the lighting on some pieces leave something to be desired. Many choice posters are way too dim and thus do a disservice to the vivid and vibrant nature of the posters to a degree.

Example here is Dr. No...the 3sh is bright (maybe even too much) but the one sheet looks like half the lights were off. The shadows are more abundant/distracting.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140403/550/3sh_dr_no_linen_MF01544_L.jpg)
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140403/550/dr_no_white_smoke_style_linen_MF03558_C.jpg)

Not the end of the world, and not trying to nitpick, but maybe Bruce can speak to this? I don't think stuff needs to be color saturated out the wazoo like some sellers do, but an initial white balance with a brightness/contrast edit in post would do some of these more justice and may = more $$$. Perhaps I am making a point to address it because I have several of these posters, and since I can judge them in person, these photos don't really do them justice at all to me.

The French Dr. No, might be my choice for one of the most beautiful posters I have ever seen on several levels, but the photo looks like the power went out, and again, doesn't really serve the beauty that the poster instills in person.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140403/550/french_dr_no_linen_MF03541_C.jpg)

Also, while I think MOST of the photography at eMovie looks pretty terrific year in and year out, its a small shame that such a terrific auction in many ways is just so muted.
Not trying to dig at you at all Bruce, just going on what my eye is telling me.
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Post by: Bruce on April 04, 2014, 02:52:13 PM
Ben, it is the curse of selling so many sizes at one time, from stills to 6-sheets. The camera has to be re-adjusted over and over.

Do this:

Make a list of the auctions that seem too dark or too light (obviously be somewhat judicious) and send it to phillip@emovieposter.com, and I will try to get many of them re-shot (although I obviously can't re-shoot the entire auction).

The one thing I will never do, of course, is "punch up" the images using Photoshop.

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 04, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on April 04, 2014, 02:52:13 PM
The one thing I will never do, of course, is "punch up" the images using Photoshop.

Bruce

 clap clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 04, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on April 03, 2014, 08:02:19 PM
Damn...I am jealous.. :'(..Yeah Morrie and I are constantly in bidding wars over classic comedy ephemera...
Did he have any Paramount Marx Bros. material?

I don't recall any in that box
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on April 04, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on April 04, 2014, 02:52:13 PM
Ben, it is the curse of selling so many sizes at one time, from stills to 6-sheets. The camera has to be re-adjusted over and over.

Do this:

Make a list of the auctions that seem too dark or too light (obviously be somewhat judicious) and send it to phillip@emovieposter.com, and I will try to get many of them re-shot (although I obviously can't re-shoot the entire auction).

The one thing I will never do, of course, is "punch up" the images using Photoshop.

Bruce

Thanks for the reply Bruce, I figured that was probably the case.

I think some could be fixed rather quickly but just altering the brightness and contrast a bit to something that is less muted/dark and more natural looking.
The two Dr. No pieces I posted here caught my eye at first glance, especially the French small.

I will go over the entire auction and send Phil a concise list that makes sense and isn't overboard probably later tonight since we are getting ready for company to come over in a bit.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 04, 2014, 03:39:51 PM
That's great Ben. Just have it here by Monday morning.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 04, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 04, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
Thanks for the reply Bruce, I figured that was probably the case.

I think some could be fixed rather quickly but just altering the brightness and contrast a bit to something that is less muted/dark and more natural looking.
The two Dr. No pieces I posted here caught my eye at first glance, especially the French small.

I will go over the entire auction and send Phil a concise list that makes sense and isn't overboard probably later tonight since we are getting ready for company to come over in a bit.

Looks like someone needs to be placed on the payroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on April 04, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 03, 2014, 07:50:54 PM
if yuo wanted to see JLC's, the place to be was Cinevent last year
Morrie Everett had an 8 inch deep box full of them and lots of unbelievable stuff

he had more in that one box than I have seen in my entire life

Aw, damn, you should have called me  >:(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 04, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on April 04, 2014, 03:56:36 PM
Aw, damn, you should have called me  >:(

you should have gone to Cinevent!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 04, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 04, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
Thanks for the reply Bruce, I figured that was probably the case.

I think some could be fixed rather quickly but just altering the brightness and contrast a bit to something that is less muted/dark and more natural looking.
The two Dr. No pieces I posted here caught my eye at first glance, especially the French small.

I will go over the entire auction and send Phil a concise list that makes sense and isn't overboard probably later tonight since we are getting ready for company to come over in a bit.

We had some spare time, so we went through all of them and identified 34 that are not as good as they should be.

So we will start getting them all out and re-shooting them, and the new images should be in place by Monday (maybe some later today).

So no need to bother, but thanks very much for pointing this out!

Bruce
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on April 04, 2014, 06:23:30 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 04, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
you should have gone to Cinevent!

Haven't been in about 4 years. It's just been too difficult to get there after Cinefest, summer vacation with the missus, and with Capitolfest coming up.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on April 04, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on April 04, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
We had some spare time, so we went through all of them and identified 34 that are not as good as they should be.

So we will start getting them all out and re-shooting them, and the new images should be in place by Monday (maybe some later today).

So no need to bother, but thanks very much for pointing this out!

Bruce

The replacements are all online now!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 04, 2014, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: wonka on April 04, 2014, 01:26:12 PM
The French Dr. No, might be my choice for one of the most beautiful posters I have ever seen on several levels, but the photo looks like the power went out, and again, doesn't really serve the beauty that the poster instills in person.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140403/550/french_dr_no_linen_MF03541_C.jpg)

This is by far my favorite Bond poster and the one poster my wife chose to put in her office, which means a lot.

 happy1

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/13633728783_f0165f15ea.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on April 04, 2014, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on April 04, 2014, 08:23:42 PM
The replacements are all online now!

Great, Bruce. After a quick browse, it all looks much better.
Again, don't mean to nitpick, but thought that such a great lineup needs to be showcased in the best possible light. (Pun intended).

Hope the camera crew isn't too annoyed at me.  :)

Quote from: CSM on April 04, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
Looks like someone needs to be placed on the payroll

I will settle for more house credit!

Quote from: eatbrie on April 04, 2014, 08:39:40 PM
This is by far my favorite Bond poster and the one poster my wife chose to put in her office, which means a lot.

Thierry, I 100% agree with you. BY FAR the best Bond poster available. IMO.
I love and have tons of admiration for much of the Bond paper, especially the early quads and the like...but for me personally, this one takes the cake. It is perfect.

My wife HATES most of my posters, especially 007 stuff, but when she saw this one she literally said 'ooh that one is beautiful, I wouldn't mind that on the wall...love it!".
Never said that about any other poster.

Looks terrific framed up, BTW.
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Post by: CSM on April 05, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
Since when did women have offices?
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Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 05, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
Since when did women have offices?

Is Canada still THAT far behind? Phone the Queen, ASAP.

 laugh1
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Post by: CSM on April 05, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 05, 2014, 12:25:52 AM
Is Canada still THAT far behind? Phone the Queen, ASAP.

 laugh1

Blame it on our stiff upper lips
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Post by: erik1925 on April 05, 2014, 12:57:27 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 05, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Blame it on our stiff upper lips

I think that may be the problem...    ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on April 06, 2014, 02:34:33 PM
From Dominique, this US 24 sheet for The African Queen. Wow!  Such a great movie.   cool1

BIN: $5000.00 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=321294063848&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16NHJIYE9qUcM8BHBQ5Nb0Q60_57_zps88774da5.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 07, 2014, 08:46:02 PM
Godfather window card
is this even real?
I've never seen a wc for this title

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GODFATHER-window-card-poster-MARLON-BRANDO-CULT-CLASSIC-/201069781498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2ed0b161fa
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Post by: Undead on April 07, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
I have noticed a bunch of later movies with window cards I have never seen appearing suddenly and sometimes selling for good money.

Heritage did sell one in 2010 for Godfather at $286.00.
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Post by: Bruce on April 07, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
We've sold four:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/GODFATHER/and/wc/archive.html
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 07, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: Undead on April 07, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
I have noticed a bunch of later movies with window cards I have never seen appearing suddenly and sometimes selling for good money.

Heritage did sell one in 2010 for Godfather at $286.00.

probably because I'm not interested in the title is why I've never noticed it

any cards from this era would be pretty scarce and I've love to find out if they exist for the Big Sleep or Farewell My Lovely with Mitchum or the Long Goodbye which I have never seen
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Post by: Louie D. on April 07, 2014, 09:38:51 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 07, 2014, 08:46:02 PM
Godfather window card
is this even real?
I've never seen a wc for this title

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GODFATHER-window-card-poster-MARLON-BRANDO-CULT-CLASSIC-/201069781498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2ed0b161fa

Looks a bit too "new" to me.
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Post by: CSM on April 07, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
The black background looks off to me
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Post by: Mirosae on April 09, 2014, 03:05:38 AM
^ the seller has an ''interesting'' name..
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Post by: erik1925 on April 09, 2014, 05:56:35 PM
A beautiful, un-restored, US half sheet for The Grapes of Wrath (1940):

BIN: $6000.00 / obo 

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=380881650067&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-11_zpsad1db2c0.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on April 13, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
An AFI embossed (100 years of Film), and Fay Wray autographed S2 litho 3 sheet, for King Kong. Wray was asked to sign a number of these AFI copies for this celebration of film.

BIN: $2200.00

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=221384160934&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg
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Post by: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 06:18:34 AM
Is anyone bidding on a Marilyn Monroe poster at the moment?
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 15, 2014, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 06:18:34 AM
Is anyone bidding on a Marilyn Monroe poster at the moment?

I bet you'll get no responses until everyone has had a chance to scramble to eBay to check for underpriced Marilyn posters :)
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Post by: Mirosae on April 15, 2014, 10:23:36 AM
I wasn't going to, but now I wonder if I should....hehehe any suggestions where to look for that poster Paul? Come on, you know you want to share it... come on .. say cheese... ;D
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Post by: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 10:32:08 AM
Harry has the opposite end of the stick this time..

Someone is about to over pay for an item that it isn't...

It's always difficult when you know a seller, who is usually a good fellow.

All I'm saying is ...Just be very careful, do your homework if your bidding on a MM poster at the moment.
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Post by: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 05, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
Since when did women have offices?

I think it was since the 80's, you know, when they started to wear trousers, and shoulder pads...
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Post by: CSM on April 15, 2014, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 10:36:35 AM
I think it was since the 80's, you know, when they started to wear trousers, and shoulder pads...

I see...my Farmer's Almanac needs to be updated it seems
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 15, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 06:18:34 AM
Is anyone bidding on a Marilyn Monroe poster at the moment?

is that SOMETHING that is HOT
or is it HALF of SOMETHING HOT?
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Post by: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 03:34:35 PM
You may say, it's HALF OF something NOT...
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 15, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
Or you could just post a link :)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2014, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 15, 2014, 10:32:08 AM
Harry has the opposite end of the stick this time..

Someone is about to over pay for an item that it isn't...

It's always difficult when you know a seller, who is usually a good fellow.

All I'm saying is ...Just be very careful, do your homework if your bidding on a MM poster at the moment.

It is one thing if one opts to keep a bargain auction under wraps. But in this case, it appears you would rather sit back & watch someone get fleeced, rather than sound the alarm and warn everyone (including the bidder who could be a member here), all because the seller is "usually a good fellow?"

I dont understand that logic.  eyeroll

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 15, 2014, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 15, 2014, 04:17:59 PM
It is one thing if one opts to keep a bargain auction under wraps. But in this case, it appears you would rather sit back & watch someone get fleeced, rather than sound the alarm and warn everyone (including the bidder who could be a member here), all because the seller is "usually a good fellow?"

I dont understand that logic.  eyeroll

exactly my thinking
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Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 07, 2014, 02:35:18 PM
Another on the horizon! An unrestored, US half sheet, for Son of Frankenstein (1939), offered by Todd Feiertag.

$50,000 BIN, or best offer.


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/sonoffrankHS_zps665eefdf.jpg)

Price drop!

Down to $45K obo.  ;D

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=380883989776&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2014, 10:41:44 PM
The not oft seen 3 sheet for Roger Corman's Not Of This Earth (1957). Looks to be a beautiful, un-backed and unrestored copy, too.   clap

BIN: $1950.00

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151212509495&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-3_zps01ec1fb2.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2014, 12:12:29 AM
This has been floating a while on the bay... a very cool looking insert for Valentino's The Young Rajah (1922).  thumbup

BIN: $3500 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=111330244280&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16NHJGYE9noohYSBRWK5SVwQ60_57_zps11f569f2.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
Another Fay Wray signed S2 3 sheet for King Kong appears on the horizon!

BIN: $3000.00

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151160304259&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZroFJS7CsKYBSestzIJu60_12_zpsc25e10ef.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 20, 2014, 07:24:33 PM
This looks in very nice condition... a jumbo lobby card for Clara Bow's The Fleet's In (1928):

BIN: $350.00 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=231208899212&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zpsc9cf18e5.jpg)
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Post by: guest4185 on April 21, 2014, 06:31:08 AM
Kong looks nice but $3000 for a reproduction, even if it is signed, seems a bit steep?
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Post by: CSM on April 21, 2014, 11:11:41 AM
Quote from: Rick on April 21, 2014, 06:31:08 AM
Kong looks nice but $3000 for a reproduction, even if it is signed, seems a bit steep?

I agree...

But I also wanted to say it's probably easier for you to say it when you have the same image on your daybill!   ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 21, 2014, 12:14:21 PM
Quote from: Rick on April 21, 2014, 06:31:08 AM
Kong looks nice but $3000 for a reproduction, even if it is signed, seems a bit steep?

For sure, Rick.

Having Wray's signature would be a nice, added perk and all... but not to the tune of 3 grand.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 21, 2014, 07:55:10 PM
Better here, eh?  ;)

Frankenstein (1951 Realart RR):

BIN: $9995.00 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=181380453138&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

Not a bad little markup, from the $6268.00 winning bid last November, either:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/2293484.html
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Post by: erik1925 on April 24, 2014, 02:48:22 PM
A rare insert for the presumed, lost film, Babe Comes Home (First National, 1927)   cool1

Current Bid: $5000.00

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=31464

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/item_31464_1_zpsc03964ef.jpg)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 24, 2014, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 24, 2014, 02:48:22 PM
A rare insert for the presumed, lost film, Babe Comes Home (First National, 1927)   cool1

Current Bid: $5000.00

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=31464


Rob Lifson runs the best baseball auctions there are and I suspect he may get a very good price for this item
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Post by: CSM on April 24, 2014, 03:55:08 PM
Wonder if it the same copy Bruce auctioned in 2010 (twice)?  If not, it would be from the same lot...

Exceedingly rare and, prior to its fairly recent discovery, previously unknown movie poster insert for the 1927 First National Picture release Babe Comes Home starring Babe Ruth. This spectacular insert is one of approximately four known examples, all of which were discovered together in 2006 in the most unlikely place imaginable: the interior wall of a home being renovated. As incredible as it sounds, this poster was one of a number of significant 1920s movie posters which had been used as insulation in the walls of the home during its construction. What makes the discovery of the Babe Comes Home insert posters all the more significant is the fact that this insert was completely unknown prior to that discovery. Rarely does such a significant movie poster discovery occur at such a late date, seventy-nine years after the date of issue, or in a more unlikely manner. All memorabilia relating to the Babe Comes Home is incredibly rare. The film itself has been lost and currently the only other theatrical promotions from the film known to have survived are two different styles of one-sheet movie posters, two different styles of half-sheet posters (one of which was once a part of the famed Barry Halper Collection and now resides in the permanent collection of the National Baseball Hall of Fame), a complete set of lobby cards, and a few smaller promotional pieces, including heralds. In many ways, this is the most visual of all the surviving pieces
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
Dial M 1sh, started at 99 cents, has 157 bids of which 152 are a single bidder whose fb is (private) and the next most frequent bidder fb is (2) and whom has retracted one bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIAL-M-FOR-MURDER-1954-ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-/301163234997?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461eba46b5

as we say in Fantasyland, that is a fantasy
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2014, 03:04:32 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
Dial M 1sh, started at 99 cents, has 157 bids of which 152 are a single bidder whose fb is (private) and the next most frequent bidder fb is (2) and whom has retracted one bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIAL-M-FOR-MURDER-1954-ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-/301163234997?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461eba46b5

as we say in Fantasyland, that is a fantasy

And it looks like 0**0 was/is having a grand old time upping his own bids along the way, too.  :P

(tho the ability to see the automatic bid history is unavailable to view on this auction, too, for some reason)
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Post by: CSM on April 29, 2014, 04:50:07 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
Dial M 1sh, started at 99 cents, has 157 bids of which 152 are a single bidder whose fb is (private) and the next most frequent bidder fb is (2) and whom has retracted one bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIAL-M-FOR-MURDER-1954-ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-/301163234997?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461eba46b5

as we say in Fantasyland, that is a fantasy

Indeed and no doubt that bid retraction was the last bid which took it over the other highest bidder to reveal their max bid.

Nice way to push it up...
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Post by: erik1925 on April 29, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
A linen backed 6 sheet, for 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Disney-Movie-Poster-HUGE-80x80-Jules-Verne-20-000-Leagues-Under-the-Sea/331189005324?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22405%26meid%3D6553995761011573440%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D8888%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D301163234997

BIN: $10,000.00  :o  / obo

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 29, 2014, 07:05:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 29, 2014, 03:04:32 PM
And it looks like 0**0 was/is having a grand old time upping his own bids along the way, too.  :P

(tho the ability to see the automatic bid history is unavailable to view on this auction, too, for some reason)

157 bids means he was bidding once per instance
no doubt he was bidding either against the (2) fb bidder or against a reserve price

you cannot raise your own bid on ebay, only your proxy


Quote from: CSM on April 29, 2014, 04:50:07 PM
Indeed and no doubt that bid retraction was the last bid which took it over the other highest bidder to reveal their max bid.

Nice way to push it up...

if true it is of course idiocy as this poster would do very well all by itself with no shill bidding
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Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
Godzilla (1956) US 3 sheet, linen backed.

Looking good.  cool1

BIN: $5000.00 / obo

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=171317176825&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-7_zpsf3a23152.jpg)
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Post by: movieposterodyssey on May 07, 2014, 12:51:25 AM
Damn! Look at that Godzilla awesomeness!

Anthony
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Post by: rdavey26 on May 07, 2014, 01:15:06 AM
That Godzilla is SWEEEEETTTTT
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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3407870

$69 score?  This went for over $600 only 3 months ago? 
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 07, 2014, 01:27:05 PM
There were a lot of deals at eMovie last night for some reason -- of course I was busy and couldn't bid! 
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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 02:28:18 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3407976

How about this awesome score? 
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Post by: Mirosae on May 07, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
WoW...great catch indeed.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 07, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3407870

$69 score?  This went for over $600 only 3 months ago? 

research the bid history of the one that sold for $600 and then match it against the one that sold yesterday and see how the bidders match up

frequently on such results what you will find is that above some level only 2 bidders are involved. It's entirely possible that on the $600 copy that above $100 you only had the 2 bidders who fought up to $600. Then what is the battle next time? The $600 bidder is gone and so the fight is against bidder #2 & #3. Bidder #3 probably won't pay any more today than he would have last time, so bidder #2 has no real competition
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Post by: Bruce on May 07, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 12:23:10 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3407870

$69 score?  This went for over $600 only 3 months ago? 

I agree that there were some great deals last night. I am glad for those here who were the recipients of those great deals. While it is true that sometimes items go lower the next time because the last high bidder now has the poster, it also can be that those who would love to own that poster simply missed the auction, and it might go for hundreds next time. Only time will tell.

If posters always went lower "the next time", then we could expect to see this one at around $9 next time!
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Post by: CSM on May 07, 2014, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 07, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
research the bid history of the one that sold for $600 and then match it against the one that sold yesterday and see how the bidders match up

frequently on such results what you will find is that above some level only 2 bidders are involved. It's entirely possible that on the $600 copy that above $100 you only had the 2 bidders who fought up to $600. Then what is the battle next time? The $600 bidder is gone and so the fight is against bidder #2 & #3. Bidder #3 probably won't pay any more today than he would have last time, so bidder #2 has no real competition

And this is why people simply cannot state how much a poster is worth.  A range perhaps but the prices fluctuate so widely on certain titles just based off demand.

If the demand is gone, the price goes way down accordingly...
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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 11:16:42 PM
So how many posters are left out there...didn't one of Bruce's recent newsletters allude to the fact that emovieposter might not still be around next year (or something like that)  Say it ain't so Bruce!  I'm not trying to start a rumor here.  Of course I might not be around next year either... :-\
I guess I'm just amazed that you could auction over 800 posters, two to three times a week, every week.  oh I`m not complaining  :)

May the tap never run dry!
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Post by: rumble on May 07, 2014, 11:42:16 PM
Well, I will be doing my bit and add a few hundred items to the eMovie "tap" soon!
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Post by: Bruce on May 08, 2014, 06:39:13 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 11:16:42 PM
So how many posters are left out there...didn't one of Bruce's recent newsletters allude to the fact that emovieposter might not still be around next year (or something like that)  Say it ain't so Bruce!  I'm not trying to start a rumor here.  Of course I might not be around next year either... :-\
I guess I'm just amazed that you could auction over 800 posters, two to three times a week, every week.  oh I`m not complaining  :)

May the tap never run dry!


I was just posing a hypothetical! There is no guarantee we will continue to receive 110,000 consignments a year. We don't own what we auction, so, like Blanche Dubois, we have always been dependent on the kindness of strangers!
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Post by: crowzilla on May 08, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on May 07, 2014, 11:16:42 PM
So how many posters are left out there...
May the tap never run dry!


There was an auction in Italy late last year for around 2 million posters being sold out in bulk. That would be enough for Bruce for 20 more years. And while I don't know of any 2 million piece stashes in the states, there are lots and lots of large warehouses/collections out there. 
There's no danger of running out of regular material any time soon.
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Post by: Mirosae on May 08, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 08, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
There was an auction in Italy late last year for around 2 million posters being sold out in bulk. That would be enough for Bruce for 20 more years. And while I don't know of any 2 million piece stashes in the states, there are lots and lots of large warehouses/collections out there. 
There's no danger of running out of regular material any time soon.

(beap) Italy moron1 I can't never find any (beap) italian posters in (beap) Italy. How  can they (beap) auction so many (beap) posters  (beap) (beap) (beap)

Ah. ..venting (beap) out feels so  (beap) good. .


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Post by: ddilts399 on May 08, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 08, 2014, 12:00:31 PM
There was an auction in Italy late last year for around 2 million posters being sold out in bulk. That would be enough for Bruce for 20 more years. And while I don't know of any 2 million piece stashes in the states, there are lots and lots of large warehouses/collections out there. 
There's no danger of running out of regular material any time soon.

How did I not hear of this, Sean you know who ended up with the lot?
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 08, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
It was a cluster fuck of an auction.  It was InterCard's (Silvio) collection and the listing were based on his HIGHLY flawed inventory.  They were grouped in lots of 50-100 or more.  I was looking at a lot of Eastwood westerns and it supposedly contained 10+ first release man with no name posters.  When I asked them to check it for sure they reported there was actually only 1 first release poster (and the lowest value style at that).  If anyone has had experience dealing with Silvio you will know that pretty much anything you inquire about on his site will have long since been sold.  I avoided the auction all together after finding out the inventory issues.  There is simply no way you would get what was listed.  I'm sure there were deals to be had, but I wasn't going to take any chances.  I also think A LOT of the collection went unsold. 

Strangely I was contacted out of the blue by Silvio in April asking for my zip code.  I asked why he needed it and inquired about the auction -- he didn't reply. 
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Post by: Silence on May 08, 2014, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
It was a cluster fuck of an auction.  It was InterCard's (Silvio) collection and the listing were based on his HIGHLY flawed inventory.  They were grouped in lots of 50-100 or more.  I was looking at a lot of Eastwood westerns and it supposedly contained 10+ first release man with no name posters.  When I asked them to check it for sure they reported there was actually only 1 first release poster (and the lowest value style at that).  If anyone has had experience dealing with Silvio you will know that pretty much anything you inquire about on his site will have long since been sold.  I avoided the auction all together after finding out the inventory issues.  There is simply no way you would get what was listed.  I'm sure there were deals to be had, but I wasn't going to take any chances.  I also think A LOT of the collection went unsold. 

Strangely I was contacted out of the blue by Silvio in April asking for my zip code.  I asked why he needed it and inquired about the auction -- he didn't reply. 

I received one of those emails as well.
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Post by: ddilts399 on May 08, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
Ahh, I thought they were sold as one large lot or by the pound or something. This rings a bell now on some of the individual pieces that were offered up.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 08, 2014, 03:40:31 PM
no doubt it was the most poorly run affair in modern times.
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Post by: Mirosae on May 08, 2014, 03:57:59 PM
^

I agree. Totally.
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 08, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
I (stupidly) poured though the listings... Even if you got what was listed (which you wouldn't) it was 99.999% crap. And if you know anything about Silvio's collection, the condition was as bad as the offerings. For those who missed it, you didn't miss anything IMHO.
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Post by: 110x75 on May 08, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
I was once about to make an order to Intercard. Looks like a saved myself from a headache...
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Post by: jedgerley on May 08, 2014, 09:45:48 PM
"lot of Movie posters" US $2,795.00
At least he took the time to hand write the sign for his picture on Ebay lolol  :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-MOVIE-POSTERS-/291081732256?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c5d2c0a0
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Post by: erik1925 on May 08, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
I wonder how much she would take for the laminated ESB poster...  :P

And she has more......maybe.....  qip

"AND I MAY VERY WELL HAVE MORE AND WOULD JUST ADD THEM IN FOR FREE JUST BECAUSE I NEED TO MOVE AND DON'T WANT TO TAKE WITH ME."
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Post by: CSM on May 08, 2014, 11:55:53 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on May 08, 2014, 02:56:09 PM

Strangely I was contacted out of the blue by Silvio in April asking for my zip code.  I asked why he needed it and inquired about the auction -- he didn't reply. 

Looks like you'll be getting some free paper in the mail


And by that I mean an auction catalogue
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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 09, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 08, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
I wonder how much she would take for the laminated ESB poster...  :P

And she has more......maybe.....  qip

"AND I MAY VERY WELL HAVE MORE AND WOULD JUST ADD THEM IN FOR FREE JUST BECAUSE I NEED TO MOVE AND DON'T WANT TO TAKE WITH ME."

Careful Jeff check out the arms on his woman-friend in the background... 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BATMAN-THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-Movie-4-x-6-ft-Bus-Shelter-Poster-MINT-CONDITION-/291142630827?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c973fdab


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 09, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on May 09, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Careful Jeff check out the arms on his woman-friend in the background... 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BATMAN-THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-Movie-4-x-6-ft-Bus-Shelter-Poster-MINT-CONDITION-/291142630827?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c973fdab




you aren't looking at her arms
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 10, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Hmmm, gotta wonder about the 1934 Cleopatra window cards that are popping up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-Claudette-Colbert-22x28-Window-Card-original-/191168828088

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Post by: erik1925 on May 10, 2014, 02:14:34 PM
And offered from the same seller as above, this very same copy of an Argentinean RR for King Kong, has been down the ebay pike before:

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=191168830114&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zpsb1bdbeb8.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on May 10, 2014, 02:29:47 PM
"It was and is in great shape"?
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Post by: 110x75 on May 10, 2014, 04:36:42 PM
It's actually Brasilian.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 10, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
I remember, Matias, there was discussion about this poster before, in another thread.

I think this would be the Argentine RR OS, right?:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KingKong-ARG_zpse8e89dec.jpg)

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Post by: jedgerley on May 10, 2014, 05:04:23 PM
here is a link to the earlier discussion of the above King Kong

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,237.msg126098.html#msg126098
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Post by: crowzilla on May 10, 2014, 11:33:33 PM
Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 10, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Hmmm, gotta wonder about the 1934 Cleopatra window cards that are popping up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-Claudette-Colbert-22x28-Window-Card-original-/191168828088



what are you wondering about?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 12:10:37 AM
And how many have ever "popped up?"

Not many... either on ebay or even places like HA.

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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 11, 2014, 03:23:29 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-CLAUDETTE-COLBERT-Original-Mint-Jumbo-WC-22x28-/271426961574

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-CLAUDETTE-COLBERT-Original-Mint-Jumbo-WC-22x28-/271455519148

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-Claudette-Colbert-22x28-Window-Card-original-/191164189874

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEOPATRA-1934-Claudette-Colbert-22x28-Window-Card-original-/191168828088

Same item appears to have been sold/listed multiple times, goes from unrestored to restored, changes from seller grandtriune to  seller DrJackGriffin, all out of the same city (Burlington, New Jersey).  I sent an email requesting an explanation.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE3/2014-05/Cleo48-1699.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 11, 2014, 03:42:16 AM
I don't see that either card has been sold, presuming it is 2 cards, but of course the similarities in the auction listings are curious
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 11, 2014, 04:14:23 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 11, 2014, 03:42:16 AM
I don't see that either card has been sold, presuming it is 2 cards, but of course the similarities in the auction listings are curious

Clouseau: Facts, Hercule, facts, behind them lays the whole fabric of deductive truth. Now, Hercule let us examine these facts: One, she was found with the murder weapon in her hand, two the murder weapon was fresh with blood, three there were no fingerprints on the murder weapon other then hers and four [holding up all 5 fingers] all the members of the Ballon household staff have perfect alibis. Now then, Hercule what do these facts add up to?
Hercule LaJoy: Maria Gambrelli killed Georges the gardener.
Clouseau: You are an idiot, only a fresh faced novice would come up with a conclusion like that.
Hercule LaJoy: But the facts.
Clouseau: Listen, who even killed Miguel, killed Georges the gardener and he did it to cover up the first crime. Now what he is trying to do is lay the blame at the foot of this, this poor servant girl.
Hercule LaJoy: Well who do you suspect?
Clouseau: I suspect everyone.
Hercule LaJoy: Well I suppose that is possible.
Clouseau: Possible? What do you mean possible? I deal in certainties.

*****

Meaning that I wouldn't go looking for the non-obvious explanation.
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Post by: Mirosae on May 11, 2014, 05:27:46 AM
Original "Mint" Jumbo Card. Really.
There you have your answer.
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 11, 2014, 11:48:14 AM
Seller, who apparently is one of the "hidden heavyweights" in the hobby, confirms it is the same card that was returned. More I cannot say....
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Post by: Starling on May 11, 2014, 12:23:29 PM
Yeah, I thought this card sounded fishy. The seller was advertising it as mint but it was clearly the card from HA, which has had some restoration. Unless he just stole the image from HA to advertise it. Either way, strange.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Seems that the "dr" seller is using the word "mint" to describe the card's post-restoration appearance. And from the brief description given, it certainly sounds like the one, same card with the same pre-restore defects, that was sold several times at HA.

The Dr didnt help his auction either, by using an image with what seems to be an overly whitened and brightened top imprint area (unless it was airbrushed to that minty white shade). That, imo, makes it looks artificial, or like the image was possibly 'doctored' after the fact - no pun intended.   8)
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Post by: Starling on May 11, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
3 weeks ago, when I was looking at it, those defects weren't listed. He just said that it was mint.
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Post by: Starling on May 11, 2014, 12:53:29 PM
Just looked at the ad( I had it saved in my watch list) he stated in bold letters NO Restoration. Maybe that's why it was returned and he has updated the ad?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: Starling on May 11, 2014, 12:53:29 PM
Just looked at the ad( I had it saved in my watch list) he stated in bold letters NO Restoration. Maybe that's why it was returned and he has updated the ad?

The seller who said there was NO Restoration in his 2 auctions was someone called "grandtriune."

"dr.jackgriffin" mentions the slight defects and restoration in his previous and now current ad. (Or are these 2 sellers one in the same? Both are in Burlington, NJ, I see, along with the same font styles and text layout in their descriptions....  :-\ )

It is such a great image, tho, in any case. A real beauty!
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Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 11, 2014, 02:00:22 PM
Guys, I raised a concern and now it's resolved.  It's the same window card being resold.  He sent me some pics of his collection and some of them are totally insane. We all got into this hobby 30 years too late....
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Post by: Mirosae on May 11, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
Got lost. So the dr sold it to grandtriune and he is now selling it on ebay...

anyway. ..
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 03:47:29 PM
The 2 sellers are the same person (he has 2 ebay seller accounts).
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Post by: Mirosae on May 11, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
Ah.. sm1
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
This is the same card being offered on ebay, previously sold on HA, on two different dates, and is described as having had these repairs:

"This gorgeous poster has had the white areas and blue background redone to address tears in the borders and a vertical crease down the middle of the poster. The restoration is excellent, leaving the image fresh and vibrant. Fine on Cardstock." (7.25.12 description)

"Prior to restoration, this beautiful piece had tears in the borders, and a vertical crease down the middle. Professional restoration has addressed these issues, showcasing a magnificent image. Fine on Cardstock." (7.28.13 description)

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83636

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7060&lotNo=83169
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
What should also be pointed out is that this card has been re-backed, too. HA uses the "on Cardstock" description, when this has been done to a WC.  ;)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 12, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Halloween-Australian-Daybill-Poster-/231224165045?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d608c2b5
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 12, 2014, 09:41:29 PM
That one was in nice shape... no ink breaks at the folds.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 13, 2014, 04:14:30 PM
This is pretty cool. Early Frank Capra, for his 1929 movie, Flight.

US insert.

BIN: 1750.00 obo

FLIGHT - US Insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=111040204067&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16dHJGE9nm3rIdEBRUh9qGoQ60_57_zps7aac6a98.jpg)
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Post by: Bruce on May 13, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Seems odd how it stands on its own. Could it be mounted?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 13, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
There seems to be a piece of cardboard right behind it (you can barely see a few edges showing here and there). Maybe it's shrunk wrapped to that?
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Post by: Bruce on May 13, 2014, 04:57:16 PM
Here is a case where it would be nice to see a "super-sized" image!

 laugh1
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Post by: jedgerley on May 13, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
I definitely see shrink wrap around it so hopefully it isn't mounted on that cardboard.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 13, 2014, 05:09:54 PM
This same seller has other inserts being offered, including one for Valentino's 1922 film, The Young Rajah that has been linen backed. So, my guess is that this particular insert is just shrunk wrapped to that cardboard support backing.
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Post by: Undead on May 13, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
So the Empire Strikes Back Advance white title one sheet is on E-Bay already for just over double what he paid for it. From a mere $2,769 to $5,595, a minor markup. I now also know that when I am outbid by Posterchild on EMP it is Cinemaster&^%# on E-Bay. The good news is it is not the only copy out there as was advertised.

He also has listed the NSS one for a mere $3,595. A little pricey as it is uncommon it is not even close tot he only one out there.

Empire Advance White Title (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

Empire Advance NSS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 13, 2014, 10:47:12 PM
Speaking of SW, this is one 6sh that is Very Cool!  The seller is in Argentina.

BIN: $4250.00

Empire Strikes Back 6 sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=291131448406&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zpse1aaed98.jpg)
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Post by: Undead on May 13, 2014, 11:38:27 PM
I do like that the title is pasted over with the title cut our from the one sheet poster in the lower left of the poster. The right edge is looking pretty ratty as well.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 14, 2014, 05:58:23 AM
http://www.ebay.es/itm/321401164475?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Extremely rare.......
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2014, 12:06:17 PM
Very cool Halloween poster. I would never have guessed that to be Jamie Lee Curtis, but I like the overall look. It reminds me of a design one might find from Italy.
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Post by: ddilts399 on May 14, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
Price is actually a little high on that one, Bruce has had them from time to time the past year or so and they struggle to get over $60 of late.
                                                                           
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on May 14, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
Huge fans might pay 2-300$ for it.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 15, 2014, 10:49:26 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MY-FRIEND-THE-DEVIL-VERY-RARE-1922-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-3-SHEET-LINEN-BACKED-/111354671424?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ed417140

Cool poster but marked up I believe
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on May 16, 2014, 03:01:49 AM
^Very cool three sheet Vic.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 18, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
"Catch" this insert while you can, being sold for charity:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-Hitchcock-TO-CATCH-A-THIEF-1955-Vista-Vision-Paramount-Movie-Poster-/380902973461

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE3/2014-05/To-Catch.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on May 18, 2014, 10:55:58 PM
Quick before Lieberman buys it, another white title ESB Advance one sheet.

ESB White Title (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=291150333251&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTM0OFgxMjAw/z/bGAAAOxy3zNSkWg9/$_3.JPG)

ESB White Title (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=291150333251&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on May 18, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
Quote from: Undead on May 18, 2014, 10:55:58 PM
Quick before Lieberman buys it, another white title ESB Advance one sheet.

ESB White Title (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=291150333251&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTM0OFgxMjAw/z/bGAAAOxy3zNSkWg9/$_3.JPG)

ESB White Title (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=291150333251&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

sold about ten minutes after you posted
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on May 18, 2014, 11:23:44 PM
Yeah, the auction was set to auto accept any offers over a certain amount. It went for a very fast $499. Who the buyer was I don't know.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 18, 2014, 11:39:39 PM
Gone... and Just Like lightning.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on May 19, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
Here's something you don't see everyday. A Jaw French 8P

French Jaws 8P (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=111106682325&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTEwWDEyMDU=/z/EgIAAOxygLxSZVS1/$%28KGrHqZ,!rYFJTZD%28er%29BSZVS0t8S!~~60_3.JPG) (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=111106682325&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 19, 2014, 02:28:31 AM
Quote from: Undead on May 19, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
Here's something you don't see everyday. A Jaw French 8P


And especially at that price. Rarer it must be?

And what a conversation starter... especially at that size.
 
But it would be nice to see the full image. All 4 sides have been minimally cropped.. any slight "ratty" edges (if extant) have been excised.  ;)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 19, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on May 18, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
sold about ten minutes after you posted

And people say posting on here makes No difference.... eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
Why out auctions on a whim/at your leisure?

Nothing worth talking about past 'look at this poster'.

Seems ignorant when its not to warn folks away from fakes, etc...

Also, another SW poster on linen for no reason...yay!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 19, 2014, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
Also, another SW poster on linen for no reason...yay!

yep.. why waste money to "remove folds"?

SPEND MORE MONEY ON POSTERS
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
or framing, or sleeves, or cable bill, or food, or....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on May 19, 2014, 04:57:52 PM
Sold for $280.01.  Somebody got a bargain.  And Humane Society of Boulder is a class act, wish they had gotten more for this.

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 18, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
"Catch" this insert while you can, being sold for charity:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-Hitchcock-TO-CATCH-A-THIEF-1955-Vista-Vision-Paramount-Movie-Poster-/380902973461

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE3/2014-05/To-Catch.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape.

Bad enough to keep most collectors away...this one is a great one to just throw in a frame and enjoy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 19, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
or framing, or sleeves, or cable bill, or food, or....

 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on May 19, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: wonka on May 19, 2014, 04:59:43 PM
They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape.

Correction:

They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape sold anywhere other than eBay.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 19, 2014, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on May 19, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Correction:

They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape sold anywhere other than eBay.

Very possibly.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 19, 2014, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 19, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
And people say posting on here makes No difference.... eyeroll

I want to continue the eyerolling  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 19, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on May 19, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Correction:

They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape sold anywhere other than eBay.

Will you be doing charity auctions in the future Bruce?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on May 19, 2014, 07:55:57 PM
^  cool1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Bruce on May 19, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
I did two entire sets of auctions where every cent taken in went to the charity and we took no fees. When the next worthy cause comes up, I will do another one!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 19, 2014, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on May 19, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
I did two entire sets of auctions where every cent taken in went to the charity and we took no fees. When the next worthy cause comes up, I will do another one!

So great!   clap

When was this?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 19, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on May 19, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
I did two entire sets of auctions where every cent taken in went to the charity and we took no fees. When the next worthy cause comes up, I will do another one!

Your local (or even State/National) Humane Society would certainly be a worthwhile cause!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rdavey26 on May 19, 2014, 11:50:53 PM
Quote from: Undead on May 19, 2014, 02:05:51 AM
Here's something you don't see everyday. A Jaw French 8P

French Jaws 8P (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=111106682325&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTEwWDEyMDU=/z/EgIAAOxygLxSZVS1/$%28KGrHqZ,!rYFJTZD%28er%29BSZVS0t8S!~~60_3.JPG) (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=111106682325&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Jason's cup of tea lol.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on May 20, 2014, 07:56:37 AM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on May 19, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Correction:

They would have gotten more if it was in slightly better shape sold anywhere other than eBay.

 thumbup

IMO, Bruce nailed it.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 20, 2014, 03:15:48 PM
Material from this film doesnt seem to show up all that often. A rare US insert for The Sin of Nora Moran (1933). The US OS is stunning, IMO, but this isnt so bad, floating heads aside.  ;)

BIN: $2500.00  obo

The Sin of Nora Moran US insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=171014346474&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zpsbc048216.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on May 20, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
Auction style with a fair start price ends today
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avatar-lenticular-3d-poster-/161309631308?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item258ecda34c
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/avatarauction.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 20, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
FIRST LET ME SAY YOU WONT FIND THIS CHEAPER NOWHERE ON EBAY

That's some clever usage of the double negative...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 20, 2014, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 20, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
FIRST LET ME SAY YOU WONT FIND THIS CHEAPER NOWHERE ON EBAY

That's some clever usage of the double negative...

And nothing like stressing the points with ALL those CAPS ..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 20, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 20, 2014, 03:15:48 PM
Material from this film doesnt seem to show up all that often. A rare US insert for The Sin of Nora Moran (1933). The US OS is stunning, IMO, but this isnt so bad, floating heads aside.  ;)

BIN: $2500.00  obo

The Sin of Nora Moran US insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=171014346474&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57_zpsbc048216.jpg)

Yes but that has been on Ebay for a year at that price. It's somewhat hidden because it is in the "Other" section.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 01:40:52 PM
In case anyone wants to match up with Michael (Silence), on this...  ;D    Here you go.

Benito strikes again!

With a BIN of a mere $21,000.00

Gilda French 2P (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151205379652&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg/url)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-2_zps8ba4f8af.jpg)

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Post by: CSM on May 23, 2014, 03:34:07 PM
(http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/nc/eu/q5/drool_400p.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on May 23, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
I still have to get it framed.
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/B_michael84/GILDAFRENCHDOUBLE_zpsa4b4efb8.jpg) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/B_michael84/media/GILDAFRENCHDOUBLE_zpsa4b4efb8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
That'll look fantastic when backed and framed, Michael. Hand in hand with your other Hayworth French 2P for Cover Girl.  clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on May 23, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 01:40:52 PM
With a BIN of a mere $21,000.00

 laugh1

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 23, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
laugh1

T

 laugh1 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 25, 2014, 01:11:21 AM
Expensive but very cool!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-vintage-Movie-poster-frame-pair-Movie-Warwick-New-York-circa-1930-s/231235276103
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 01:32:57 AM
Cool - yes... but are they vintage? Or just made to look that way?

For an opening bid of $2 grand, I'd want a lot more info, than just a "belief" of where they allegedly came from.   ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Realart RR-'51 LC for The Mummy.

BIN: $900.00 obo

The Mummy LC 51RR


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-2_zpsa653a72e.jpg) (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=301192175861&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg/url)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on May 31, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/girly022_2_zps908249a9.gif) I just finished browsing certain signature auction..and..well...oh...found 3...or 4...actually 5 posters that are so.... (http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/girly022_2_zps908249a9.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on May 31, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 31, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/girly022_2_zps908249a9.gif) I just finished browsing certain signature auction..and..well...oh...found 3...or 4...actually 5 posters that are so.... (http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/girly022_2_zps908249a9.gif)

I had noticed that that auction was chock full of Bogeys.....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on May 31, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Starling on May 31, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
I had noticed that that auction was chock full of Bogeys.....

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Mobile%20Uploads/tumblr_llex251Uat1qd48zdo1_r2_500_zpsdzbyy5tj.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: erik1925 on June 05, 2014, 12:36:57 AM
$21,500.00 (BIN) for this MAD LOVE LC... Yowza! Certainly a very rare and not oft seen item, for sure! And offered by Jim Gresham.  happy1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAD-LOVE-1935-RAREST-AND-BEST-CARD-BY-FAR/261488695551?_trksid=p3984.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3D7396228427499736005%26pid%3D100022%26prg%3D20140122153519%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D221412547819

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/MLLC_zps47baedf6.jpg)

BINS are NOT auctions, per se, and should maybe even be presented in another thread, as placing them here is misleading. They are out 'n out purchases.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2014, 01:44:26 AM
in case there are people reading this thread that didn't know (like some people believe) that there are actually places that sell posters,
there is this place called ebay.com and they have loads of auctions going on right now, in mid-stream

I'm sure most of you have never heard of the place, so check it out
this link is for all movie collectibles, but they have comic books too!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Movie-Memorabilia-/196/i.html?LH_Auction=1&_sop=1

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2014, 01:45:45 AM
OMG.. I just outed 60,000 auctions!!!

 :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: Louie D. on June 05, 2014, 07:16:39 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 05, 2014, 01:45:45 AM
OMG.. I just outed 60,000 auctions!!!

 :P

 thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 09, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Affiche-JAMES-BOND-AU-SERVICE-SECRET-DE-SA-MAJESTE-/271511907917?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:FR:1123
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 09, 2014, 05:41:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Humphrey-BOGART-Greatest-US-Film-Star-GENUINE-Hand-SIGNED-WWII-Card-FINE-/201103874588?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Autographs_CV&hash=item2ed2b99a1c
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2014, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on June 09, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Affiche-JAMES-BOND-AU-SERVICE-SECRET-DE-SA-MAJESTE-/271511907917?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:FR:1123

Looking at the hidden proxy bids here, it seems the winner had placed their max bid on June 6th. Only one countered before this ended today.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 09, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
A Bogie autograph?...most interesting
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2014, 11:58:09 PM
Quote from: CSM on June 09, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
A Bogie autograph?...most interesting

And is it genuine?

 :-\
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on June 10, 2014, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 09, 2014, 11:58:09 PM
And is it genuine?

 :-\

Bogus Bogie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2014, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 10, 2014, 12:00:45 AM
Bogus Bogie

That works...

or make it 3 B's with the potential "Bogus Bolognie Bogey."   whip

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bogie_zpsc17cf772.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTF!, whatever.....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on June 10, 2014, 06:13:45 AM
And now that you've outed those auctions....we should lock this thread...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on June 10, 2014, 08:04:06 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 10, 2014, 12:00:45 AM
Bogus Bogie

Hey Mr Chris.. wash your mouth we are takin' Bogart here...!!! ;)

Certain Insert is coming up for auction... I would sell my penthouse in Chelsea (if i had one) my 1931 Bugatti  Royale Kellner (if I had one)..my villa in Florence (if I had one) ..just to have that one insert....   ;)

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Post by: Starling on June 10, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
I believe I know which insert you are speaking of....and it is stellar.  HOWEVER, me thinks you have an amazing/wonderful/spectacular/splendid window card from this film that will help cushion the blow of not owning said insert.
And if you do get the insert, please send me this WC to enjoy.  No one needs 2 pieces of paper from the same film!!   ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on June 10, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
Thought YOU will understand.. YOU are grabbing all the best Davis...and Crawford. .oh..wait and Dietrichs. . :-*

I want them both (well i wish)😉

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Mobile%20Uploads/Both_zpsvdad1knu.gif)

😘
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 10, 2014, 04:39:30 PM
Rosa, I need this insert for my Chandler collection.
get ready for a tussle....

 ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on June 10, 2014, 05:46:23 PM
Dear Rich....where will you keep it?
It won't go well with the decor of your Las Vegas mansion. Best if you let it go...

 ;)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/comicartcom/LondonDungeon_EM030_zpsd30b626f.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 10, 2014, 06:10:57 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c390/comicartcom/LondonDungeon_2_zps0244b18f.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on June 10, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
Hahahaha

Can't argue with that😆
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 10, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
I promise to put plexiglass so they don't get any blood spatter
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Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2014, 07:27:30 PM
And that chair does look like the perfect place for the ultimate "Big sleep." Maybe just add a brillo pillow or asbestos blanket.   ;)

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Post by: CSM on June 10, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 10, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
I promise to put plexiglass so they don't get any blood spatter

 laugh1
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Post by: Mirosae on June 11, 2014, 03:46:20 AM
That was funny Rich!!

 laugh1 laugh1
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Post by: Simes on June 11, 2014, 04:06:08 AM
Hilarious fella - very good.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2014, 01:00:54 PM
But rich, isnt the one insert hanging a little too close to the container of glowing embers and coal?

No worry of a little scorching? Or is that one the repro?  wynk
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Post by: kovacs01 on June 13, 2014, 12:53:11 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Good-Burger-Kenan-Kel-Autographed-Poster-Nickelodeon-Stars-/161330698140?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25900f179c

Its outted.......gonna cost Thierry some cash I think.  Sorry bro.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 13, 2014, 01:03:50 AM
dastardly
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Post by: erik1925 on June 13, 2014, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 13, 2014, 12:53:11 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Good-Burger-Kenan-Kel-Autographed-Poster-Nickelodeon-Stars-/161330698140?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25900f179c

Its outted.......gonna cost Thierry some cash I think.  Sorry bro.

And only 38 bucks and change to ship, ECONOMY....

Now that's a steal deal.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 14, 2014, 10:51:19 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTQ3MFgxMTQz/z/buAAAMXQrhdTTEOY/$_57.JPG)

Indiana Jones looks like How I will feel tomorrow morning :P
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Post by: rdavey26 on June 18, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
^bad shape and been trimmed.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 12:56:43 AM
BE STILL MY EVER BEATING HEART!!!   bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1

And another from the Nick Cage collection... HA will be offering the "Underwater" style POTO OS in July!! I would do very wicked things to be able to have this...LOL

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-27-x-41-/p/7098-51036.s#Photo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf-1_zps13828887.jpg)

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Post by: Starling on June 19, 2014, 01:13:27 AM
It's nice and all, but it's no Pretty Woman.  :P
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 02:16:42 AM
True enough.. but dont "rain" on my parade...  ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 19, 2014, 05:10:58 AM
I so remember seeing the 2 POTO one sheets in Ohlinger's store so many years ago.
I was totally awestruck!
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Post by: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
The "Nicolas Cage" ? Double up the value.
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Post by: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 06:48:45 AM
Those living in Dallas or nearby are lucky. What a feast must be seeing those pieces in person. They have a Ballester that I just..can't. . (i think that ballester poster was one of my first posts here..it is such a weird one....oh..time goes by..😏
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Post by: Charlie on June 19, 2014, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 06:48:45 AM
Those living in Dallas or nearby are lucky. What a feast must be seeing those pieces in person. They have a Ballester that I just..can't. . (i think that ballester poster was one of my first posts here..it is such a weird one....oh..time goes by..😏

It's actually quite a pain if you don't live in Dallas proper.  The viewings are Mon-Friday before the auction.  With work and all... Well hard to justify taking a day off to go see a poster.  But I was able to view two of the posters I wanted the morning of, Saturday.  It would be super cool if they kept the viewings right up until the auction started on Saturday.   
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Post by: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 10:47:07 AM
Thanks Charlie. I didn't realise that HA did not offer Saturday viewings.  That said I imagine that you can book an appointment on Saturdays? Other auction houses do let you do that, though you might have to be more specific with the poster you want to see. In fact, I just cameback from one where I had to request a private viewing (oh, I feel important now ;D)




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Post by: Bruce on June 19, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
Charlie, for you I will book a "private viewing" anytime. Just come to West Plains and give us a day's notice.

You are a "VIP" here!
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Post by: Charlie on June 19, 2014, 12:03:29 PM
Quote from: eMoviePoster.com on June 19, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
Charlie, for you I will book a "private viewing" anytime. Just come to West Plains and give us a day's notice.

You are a "VIP" here!

Thanks!  Would love to visit at some point.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Charlie on June 19, 2014, 10:07:10 AM
It's actually quite a pain if you don't live in Dallas proper.  The viewings are Mon-Friday before the auction.  With work and all... Well hard to justify taking a day off to go see a poster.  But I was able to view two of the posters I wanted the morning of, Saturday.  It would be super cool if they kept the viewings right up until the auction started on Saturday.   

That seems to make the most sense to me, too, for those that might want to go and not only preview on the Sat of the auction, but then stay and watch. Ive been to a number of (non poster) auctions here in LA (fine art and works on paper), and everything was available to view, right up until about 30-40 min before the auction started, so they could slightly reorganize, in prep for the auction's start.
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Post by: Bruce on June 19, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: Charlie on June 19, 2014, 12:03:29 PM
Thanks!  Would love to visit at some point.

We'll leave the light on for you!
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 03:07:22 PM
It so nice to see that this insert for The Wolf Man, coming up in July, has had NO restoration whatsoever. Small pinholes and crease marks have been left alone, leaving any restoration decisions (or not) up to the winning bidder. It's another beauty, imo.  thumbup

And i had never looked closely at the art on this. It's interesting how the art dept chose to use a colorized photo of Chaney's face and left hand, and place those on an artistically rendered furry upper torso.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-wolf-man-universal-1941-insert-14-x-36-/p/7098-51037.s#Photo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf-2_zps928868f5.jpg)

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Post by: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
Next week..@ Christies London
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/Czechs/20140619_120721_zps6cusiocm.jpg)

And Dolce Vita is ohhh
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Doolahlah/Czechs/20140619_120846_zpsynujhhli.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 04:24:40 PM
Is the drum kit for auction, too?

 ;D

And how are those posters attached to the wall, Rosa? Small push pins thru the linen border?

Could you tell?
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Post by: Mirosae on June 19, 2014, 04:36:51 PM
Yes. It is for sale too.
It looked better but only few are on display. Others are by appointment only.😊
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Post by: Starling on June 19, 2014, 04:47:57 PM
La Dolce Vita and Gilda are giving me the fever  bed1

Meanwhile, Mr. Chaplin is giving me NIGHTMARES.  WTF??  haha
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Post by: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
Quote from: Starling on June 19, 2014, 04:47:57 PM
La Dolce Vita and Gilda are giving me the fever  bed1

Meanwhile, Mr. Chaplin is giving me NIGHTMARES.  WTF??  haha

Yeah... there's something not quite right there with CC. And i wonder what film it is even for? Isn't Charlot french for Charles or Charlie?

There was another style, also done for Everest Films, which was also auctioned by Christie's London, last October. It went for $7018.00

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/posters-signage-advertising/auguste-leymarie-charlie-chaplin-charlot-5727412-details.aspx?intobjectid=5727412
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 19, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
Yeah... there's something not quite right there with CC. And i wonder what film it is even for? Isn't Charlot french for Charles or Charlie?

There was another style, also done for Everest Films, which was also auctioned by Christie's London, last October. It went for $7018.00

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/posters-signage-advertising/auguste-leymarie-charlie-chaplin-charlot-5727412-details.aspx?intobjectid=5727412

French stock poster.. probably an undersized 1-panel as Gilda looks to be a 2-panel
also probably 1930s
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 21, 2014, 07:39:06 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corgi-811-James-Bond-Moon-Buggy-Diamonds-are-forever-all-original-1972-issue-/281361755081?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item418277abc9

OT but DAF related......it can fetch 600 if the box is perfect , this is pretty worn though.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 27, 2014, 09:39:54 PM
Here's an idea: ship to Bruce directly...and see if you come out on top over the long run  8)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/original-movie-posters-/111393706607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ef95126f

All original two-sided movie posters form mid 90's to 2k era. All in tubes and well taken care of. text or call or email for prices. Willing to sell all for right price, the more you buy the better the price. Also have some vinyl banners that they hang in the theaters. All are form actual theaters and are real poster. Questions??? Get a hold of me. Thanks.. TUBE # 1 Ed TV *also in tube 27 Jaw Breaker Rushmore My Fav. Martian TUBE # 2 The Corrupter Arlington Road x 2 HurlyBurly The theory of flight Varsity Blues x 2 *also in tube 32 October Sky TUBE # 3 Forces of Nature x 2 Entrapment American Pie Star Wars: Episode 2 (w/letter) TUBE # 4 The Newton Boys Avengers vol. 3 (teasers) The Truman Show (teasers) Primary Colors 2Guys & A Girl Without Limits WOO TUBE # 5 Ronin (teasers) Psycho (teasers) A night @ the Roxbury Rounders What Dreams May Come (teaser) Rush Hour Living Out Loud TUBE # 6 Jackie Brown As Good As it Gets An American Werewolf in Paris Great Expectations Replacement Killers TUBE # 7 City of Angels Odd Couple II x 2 Merouny Rising The Big Hit Almost Heroes Lethal Weapon 4 (teaser) Chinese Box Tarzan & The Lost City TUBE # 8 Urban Legend The Waterboy Pleasantville II x 2 Ronin Meet Joe Black What Dreams May come TUBE # 9 Star Trek: Insurrection *also in tube 24 Soldier *also in tube 11 Apt Pupil The Curv The Holly Man The Seige Detroit's 9000 TUBE # 10 Players Club Kissing a Fool Mr. Nice Guy The Big Lebowski Grease The Object of My Affection TUBE # 11 Pie (the symbol) Soldier *also in tube 9 I Still Know Psycho Vampires Babe : A Pig in the City A Simple Plan *also in tube 23 TUBE # 12 The Wizard of OZ x 4 Practical Magic x 2 Beloved TUBE # 13 Island of Dr. Moreau (teaser) Cutthroat Island Murder @ 1500 Scream Air Force One Evita Lost World (teaser) 5th Element (teaser) Star Trek: 1st Contact Empire Strikes Back Star Wars Trilogy Return of The Jedi Star Wars TUBE # 14 Mulan Can't Hardly Wait Ever After The Avengers X-Files There's Something About Mary TUBE # 15 The Negotiator x 2 *also in tube 29 Out of Sight Jane Austins Mafia Armageddon Hav' Plenty TUBE # 16 Meet Joe Black (teaser) Pleasantville The Bride of Chucky Halloween: H2O TUBE # 17 Welcome to Sarajevo Fallen Boogie Nights Scream 2 Soul Food Hoodlum A Life Less Ordinary Anastasia (teaser) TUBE # 18 Quest of Camelot (teaser characters x 4) The Horse Whisper Bullworth Dead Man on Campus TUBE # 19 Pay Back *also in tube 32 Star Wars Episode 1 (teaser) Shakespeare in Love Message in a Bottle You've Got Mail Blast From The Past TUBE #20 Lost & Found 13th Floor 10 Things I Hate About You GO Austin Powers 2 (Mike Meyers, Austin x 2, Dr. Evil x 2) TUBE #21 American History X Patch Adams TUBE #22 Godzilla x 10 (teaser) TUBE # 23 8mm A Simple Plan *also in tube 11 A Midsummer's Night Dream Mystery Alaska The Mummy (teaser) Cruel Intentions The Mod Squad Carrie: The Race TUBE # 24 Analyze This x 4 Elizabeth Star Trek: Insurrection x 2 *also in tube 9 TUBE # 25 Tomorrow Never Dies Titanic Alien: Resurrection The Man Who Knew Too Little x 2 Mimic Contact x 2 *also in tube 31 Mars Attack Starship Troopers TUBE # 26 True Crimes x 1 Office Space Ravenous TUBE # 27 Home Fries x 3 *also in tube 30 Home Fries --oct. 23 Jack Frost Stepmom Virus The Thin Red Line Ed TV *also in tube 1 TUBE # 28 Sliding Doors He Got Game Ride The Truman Show (teaser) Quest for Camelot x 3 TUBE # 29 Lethal Weapon 4 The Mask of Zorro The Negotiator x 2 *also in tube 15 Baseketball Blade TUBE # 30 Enemy of the State A Civil Action Jerry Springer's Ringmaster Very Bad Things Celebrity The Faculty At First Sight TUBE # 31 Batman & Robin Batman & Robin Heroes The Peacemaker Trial and Error x 2 Switchback Hard Rain (teaser) The Rainmaker Mortal Kombat: Annihilation TUBE # 32 Life Varsity Blues x 3 *also in tube 2 Baby Genius She's All That Payback *also in tube 19 Simply Irresistible TUBE # 33 Godzilla x 2 Fear and Loathing in LasVegas 6 Days 7 Nights The Full Monty TUBE # 34 Les Miserables Truman Show x 2 I Got The Hook-up Deep Impact 54 TUBE # 35 Man in the Iron Mask Sphere The Boxer x 2 U.S. Marshalls City of Angels Wild Things Dark City
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
nobody is turning $500 out of those for that guy, especially not on any cosnignment
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Post by: erik1925 on June 28, 2014, 12:21:21 AM

Trying to get my eyes to decipher and focus on that long "descriptive" mono-paragraph made me woozy.   faint2.gif

 ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on June 29, 2014, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 19, 2014, 12:56:43 AM

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-27-x-41-/p/7098-51036.s#Photo

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf-1_zps13828887.jpg)



The POTO OS is up to $95K (and that's not including the BP).

I need to hit the lottery.... while there's still time...  GoOn.gif


And the Casablanca insert is currently at $12K (plus the BP). It will be very interesting to see how this one does, compared to the last.  dontknow.gif

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Post by: Mirosae on June 29, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 29, 2014, 01:13:42 PM



And the Casablanca insert is currently at $12K (plus the BP). It will be very interesting to see how this one does, compared to the last.


Ugh. .that insert is sooooooo ugly....ugh...
ay


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Post by: erik1925 on June 29, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on June 29, 2014, 02:39:25 PM
Ugh. .that insert is sooooooo ugly....ugh...
ay


Agree... it deserves less than half a  star.gif

 ;D
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Post by: Mirosae on June 29, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
Quite right. It deserves to be taken and left in a place somewhere in London....out of sight.  Too ugly ...

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Post by: Mirosae on July 05, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Classic samurai. You cannot beat this. At least in my eyes. Perfect. And the film (pick your version) is a Treat.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-4_zps7il8y6qz.jpeg)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on July 05, 2014, 07:28:46 PM
Very nice Mirosae. Is it a US 1 sh?
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Post by: CSM on July 05, 2014, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on July 05, 2014, 07:28:46 PM
Very nice Mirosae. Is it a US 1 sh?

I believe it's Italian
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Post by: 110x75 on July 05, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: CSM on July 05, 2014, 10:17:03 PM
I believe it's Italian

It is. Text is in italian. Those bastards knew how to make good posters.
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Post by: Mirosae on July 06, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
Hah! Matias  the Argentine posters are not bad either!

@ crazy vick ...As these 2 smarty smartz Chris and Matias say ( the know..)...It is Italian and the big brother it is (huge size).
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Post by: erik1925 on July 06, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
I seem to recall seeing one of these 4F floating out 'n about there somewheres.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: 110x75 on July 06, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 06, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
Hah! Matias  the Argentine posters are not bad either!


Some of them are Rosa, but they mostly use the same art than the US originals, except some painted by local artists.
The italians not only made new art for most of foreign films, but had a bunch of formats, usually with different images. 4 foglio, 2 fogli, soggettone, locandina and (at least) 8 fotobustas. I have no idea if they got to hang all that paper in theaters... 
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Post by: Mirosae on July 06, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on July 06, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
Some of them are Rosa, but they mostly use the same art than the US originals, except some painted by local artists.
The italians not only made new art for most of foreign films, but had a bunch of formats, usually with different images. 4 foglio, 2 fogli, soggettone, locandina and (at least) 8 fotobustas. I have no idea if they got to hang all that paper in theaters... 

Gracias Matias. ..Maestro!

Point; game and match. I see what you mean. Can't argue that :)
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Post by: 110x75 on July 06, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
 :-*
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Post by: erik1925 on July 07, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
With just over 6 days to go, it will be interesting to see how high this backed OS for The Day The Earth Stood Still will climb to. It's already at $9250.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3493412

By comparison, the last ones emovie sold were almost a decade ago, in March of 2005, for $13,228.00 and in December, 2005, for $10,767.00.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on July 07, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
I'm totally waiting until the last minute to bid.   
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Post by: Zorba on July 07, 2014, 10:02:35 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on July 07, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
I'm totally waiting until the last minute to bid.   

That right!   ;D
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Post by: crowzilla on July 07, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 07, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
With just over 6 days to go, it will be interesting to see how high this backed OS for The Day The Earth Stood Still will climb to. It's already at $9250.00

By comparison, the last ones emovie sold were almost a decade ago, in March of 2005, for $13,228.00 and in December, 2005, for $10,767.00.

My guess is that we will find out it has not been a great investment.
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Post by: Harry Caul on July 07, 2014, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 07, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
My guess is that we will find out it has not been a great investment.

Because of the number copies out there? 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 07, 2014, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on July 07, 2014, 10:10:19 PM
Because of the number copies out there? 

probably because investment is measured about increase in value in real dollars

if you bought something in 2005 for $13.3k it sells for $15,000 today, you have not "made" any money - you have lost money because simple investments would have provided you with more benefit
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 08, 2014, 02:48:57 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 07, 2014, 10:51:15 PM
probably because investment is measured about increase in value in real dollars

if you bought something in 2005 for $13.3k it sells for $15,000 today, you have not "made" any money - you have lost money because simple investments would have provided you with more benefit

Plus the 20% you lose on consignment fees puts you in the hole already. That's if it sells for $15K.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jpicken on July 08, 2014, 08:34:16 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 07, 2014, 10:51:15 PM
probably because investment is measured about increase in value in real dollars

if you bought something in 2005 for $13.3k it sells for $15,000 today, you have not "made" any money - you have lost money because simple investments would have provided you with more benefit

If you invested $13.3K in March 2005 in a simple, low expense, Russell 2000 index fund, which is a broad stock market index, the investment would have gone up 84%. Your investment would have grown to $24,472.  Not a great return, but still a gain even with all the volatility in the stock market during the period.

Although you would not have had that cool poster on your wall to enjoy all those years either.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on July 08, 2014, 10:28:23 AM
Silly people.

You buy it for $10k in 2005 and sell it in 2014 for $15k.  You lose $3k in consignment fees, leaving a small profit of $2k.  You are right about investment potential, but you aren't counting the fact that you can't frame a mutual fund and hang it on your wall.  Whomever is now selling received 20 years of pleasure from owning and displaying this piece.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on July 08, 2014, 11:24:50 AM
Your elevated status has to count for something too... At the very least you can charge people to view it (or talk to you, cool guy)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 08, 2014, 12:31:56 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on July 08, 2014, 10:28:23 AM
Silly people.

You buy it for $10k in 2005 and sell it in 2014 for $15k. ...  Whomever is now selling received 20 years of pleasure from owning and displaying this piece.

 hitself  can't put a monetary price on good math.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on July 08, 2014, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 08, 2014, 12:31:56 PM
hitself  can't put a monetary price on good math.


Darn it, I was thinking 1995  :-[
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Silence on July 13, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 07, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
With just over 6 days to go, it will be interesting to see how high this backed OS for The Day The Earth Stood Still will climb to. It's already at $9250.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3493412

By comparison, the last ones emovie sold were almost a decade ago, in March of 2005, for $13,228.00 and in December, 2005, for $10,767.00.

Looks like the price didn't change. That is good.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 13, 2014, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Silence on July 13, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Looks like the price didn't change. That is good.

Congrats on the win, Michael!

 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on July 13, 2014, 08:16:34 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Ii_and_Germany_1890_-_1914_HU68367.jpg/440px-Kaiser_Wilhelm_Ii_and_Germany_1890_-_1914_HU68367.jpg)

Nice work Wilhelm!  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on July 13, 2014, 08:30:49 PM
Not every day you get a look at Kaiser Wilhelm II  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on July 13, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
For some mid-auction analysis/attempted scam job, see... http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 14, 2014, 02:47:43 AM
Quote from: archie leach on July 13, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
For some mid-auction analysis/attempted scam job, see... http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html)

Good work Archie!!  And agree with you. A fake is a fake.  Taking   money misleading buyers ...sad ...really p...me off
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: archie leach on July 13, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
For some mid-auction analysis/attempted scam job, see... http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,8604.0.html)

y***j with Zero feedback, has now pushed it to $1300.00 with about 15 min to go.   

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jimi-Hendrix-B-W-Fri-May-8-1968-Field-House-Norman-OK-Red-Black-Type-Font-Poster-/251586849760
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 16, 2014, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: Zorba on July 13, 2014, 08:30:49 PM
Not every day you get a look at Kaiser Wilhelm II  ;D

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_F71ZE0pc4nZEG2koR_BzPRPh-WP20iEL6j-kdXCy2y4o-No3)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on July 18, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
I know non of you fellows will bid on this, but anyone looking in here should know this is a repro from the 80's worth around £15-20 on a very good day..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221496303308?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 19, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
HA Live is bringing the heat today...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 19, 2014, 05:38:56 PM
I bid A LOT (for me) on the German M poster and I failed.  

Very upsetting.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on July 19, 2014, 05:58:49 PM
To be fair, the M poster thumped the estimate into the middle distance.

The Casablanca Insert did well too - ~$83k.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 19, 2014, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 19, 2014, 05:38:56 PM
I bid A LOT (for me) on the German M poster and I failed.  


strange, I could have sworn that poster was on linen...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: oldposterho on July 19, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
I had hopes of someday owning an "M" poster, that ship appears to have sailed.

Is it just me or were there very strong results at both EMP and HA so far?

--Peter 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on July 19, 2014, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: oldposterho on July 19, 2014, 08:00:50 PM
I had hopes of someday owning an "M" poster, that ship appears to have sailed.

Is it just me or were there very strong results at both EMP and HA so far?

--Peter 

Results have been going up in general, imo. New found interest in the hobby perhaps? Strengthening economies and more disposable income?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 19, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
I got 2 so far and missed about 20 that I actually bid on.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 19, 2014, 09:44:11 PM
Would love to know who shelled out that serious loot for the Phantom OS. Good lawd.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: keith on July 19, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 19, 2014, 05:38:56 PM
I bid A LOT (for me) on the German M poster and I failed.  

Very upsetting.

T


Yeah, I was bidding on this too, and bailed out early.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on July 19, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
There were definitely some over the top prices on reasonably common material...here were a few that stuck out...

Road to Morocco OS    - $3585
The great dictator OS.  - $8365
It's a wonderful life SC. -$2091
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
This is so annoying...  I lost a big one this morning on Ebay, then went for my regular 2 hour Sunday morning jog, and came back before noon only to realize that HA's sale was almost over.  For some reasons, I thought they started at noon.  I had so many items in my Want List.

Not happy yesterday, not happy today.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 20, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Defeated and deflated. I didn't get anything.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/55NV3_zps0d0jzt42.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 20, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
This is so annoying...  I lost a big one this morning on Ebay, then went for my regular 2 hour Sunday morning jog, and came back before noon only to realize that HA's sale was almost over.  For some reasons, I thought they started at noon.  I had so many items in my Want List.

Not happy yesterday, not happy today.

T

Not happy with the two you scored yesterday?  girly2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 20, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
Not happy with the two you scored yesterday?  girly2.gif

Not good enough?  I know, right?  These 2 were actually afterthoughts, just because I didn't win what I wanted and was pissed.  I had to fulfill the emptiness I felt inside.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on July 20, 2014, 07:06:20 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
Not good enough?  I know, right?  These 2 were actually afterthoughts, just because I didn't win what I wanted and was pissed.  I had to fulfill the emptiness I felt inside.

T

I have to admit I laughed when I read that. They are very nice consolation prizes. :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 20, 2014, 07:09:34 PM
Awwww... the poster pig is breaking my heart... wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 07:25:32 PM
Ted, my wife loves you!!!  She might start calling me Poster Pig.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on July 20, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
 laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

You guys is funny!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 20, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 07:25:32 PM
Ted, my wife loves you!!!  She might start calling me Poster Pig.

I've heard that when you win an auction the family takes you on a victory lap.
Is this true?

(http://www.lolpics.se/pics/15053.gif)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 21, 2014, 04:29:58 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 20, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Defeated and deflated. I didn't get anything.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/55NV3_zps0d0jzt42.gif)

neither defeated nor deflated, but I also got nothing
on to the next one
;-)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on July 22, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
Slim pickin's on EMP tonight...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on July 22, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
Coffin Joe just went uuuuuuuuuuup!  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on July 22, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on July 22, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
Slim pickin's on EMP tonight...

Depends on the picker...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on July 22, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on July 22, 2014, 09:14:16 PM
Depends on the picker...

I got what I wanted...  Good job on the Czechs tonight Matt.  Don't normally see you going for the 11x16s though...  What's up with the Eclipse?  Do I need to watch it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 22, 2014, 09:55:16 PM
A lot of stuff went for really cheap.  Could be because most collectors don't care about Polish, Czech and Hungarian posters.  More for us!

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on July 22, 2014, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 22, 2014, 09:55:16 PM
A lot of stuff went for really cheap.  Could be because most collectors don't care about Polish, Czech and Hungarian posters.  More for us!

T

 thumbsup.gif

Nice Deneuve, T...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on July 22, 2014, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: Charlie on July 22, 2014, 09:23:35 PM
I got what I wanted...  Good job on the Czechs tonight Matt.  Don't normally see you going for the 11x16s though...  What's up with the Eclipse?  Do I need to watch it?

If you like 60s Italian, then yes!  It's part of a loose trilogy by Antonioni - L'Avventura, L'Eclisse, La Notte.

And good eye, I do usually skip the A3 Czechs.  However, I decided that given how many Eastern European posters I'll likely collect -- that I probably don't need to hold out/shell out for every title in A1 size.  I'll save that for the special ones.  So while I did buy 6 A3s, I also bought 9 A1s, 6 B1s and a B2. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 22, 2014, 11:36:46 PM
Quote from: Charlie on July 22, 2014, 10:28:48 PM
thumbsup.gif

Nice Deneuve, T...

It's all those stupid sub-collections I have now.  I probably have 40 or 50.  Deneuve is one of them.  And I keep adding to them.  Keeps me busy.

The neverending hobby.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 23, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 20, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
Not good enough?  I know, right?  These 2 were actually afterthoughts, just because I didn't win what I wanted and was pissed.  I had to fulfill the emptiness I felt inside.

T

That's just sad....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Holiday, your 'Creepiest Avatar Pic on the Internet' streak continues...you continue to outdo yourself in that regard...    thumbsup.gif dontknow.gif  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 24, 2014, 12:59:31 AM
Quote from: wonka on July 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Holiday, your 'Creepiest Avatar Pic on the Internet' streak continues...you continue to outdo yourself in that regard...    thumbsup.gif dontknow.gif  :)

It's strange how in internet land, the people who don't post photos of themselves are the most critical of others' photos. 

p.s.: (I know it's a "tehe" thing, just sayin'.)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 24, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Did Mel hijack your account?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 24, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Did Mel hijack your account?

Who's Mel?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 24, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 24, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
Did Mel hijack your account?

Mel is certainly a prime example of the issue.  I don't check the NSF and VPF often, but on those forums, people who don't have any photos of themselves are obsessed with posting his photos and talking trash about him.  The internet world is a strange place.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 24, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on July 24, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
Mel is certainly a prime example of the issue.  I don't check the NSF and VPF often, but on those forums, people who don't have any photos of themselves are obsessed with posting his photos and talking trash about him.  The internet world is a strange place.

I think something is lost in translation here.

Mel was always about people posting pics of themselves and posters, which never made sense to me on any level, hence my poor attempt at a joke.

I will post a pic of a poster now and again, when I have a camera and a poster handy, but don't feel the need to post any personal pics of myself and do not plan to do so.
People who have an issue with that can get over it. Or not, I don't care.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 24, 2014, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Holiday, your 'Creepiest Avatar Pic on the Internet' streak continues...you continue to outdo yourself in that regard...    thumbsup.gif dontknow.gif  :)

Why, thank you, Ben!  I do aspire to be great!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 24, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
I will post a pic of a poster now and again, when I have a camera and a poster handy, but don't feel the need to post any personal pics of myself and do not plan to do so.
People who have an issue with that can get over it. Or not, I don't care.

Is it because you're so freaking ugly?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on July 24, 2014, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 24, 2014, 10:13:23 PM
Is it because you're so freaking ugly?

Don't want to make your wife jealous, thats all.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 24, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: wonka on July 24, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
People who have an issue with that can get over it. Or not, I don't care.

(http://i.imgur.com/WyPW5.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 25, 2014, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: wonka on July 24, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
I think something is lost in translation here.

Mel was always about people posting pics of themselves and posters, which never made sense to me on any level, hence my poor attempt at a joke.

I will post a pic of a poster now and again, when I have a camera and a poster handy, but don't feel the need to post any personal pics of myself and do not plan to do so.
People who have an issue with that can get over it. Or not, I don't care.

Nothing was lost in translation.  Of course Mel posted photos, and shared a lot of cool information here, which also made him the ultimate target for trolling.

To some people, part of the beauty of the internet is they can just appreciate stuff that other people people share, crack jokes about others, etc. and remain as anonymous as possible so they don't put themselves in a position that the same could happen to them. They don't want photos of themselves on the internet, that could be mocked in the same way that they do to others.  A lot of people don't participate online because of that kind of garbage.  My initial observation still rings true, that the people who don't post photos of themselves or their collections are often the most critical.

The bizarre thing about the internet is that everyone is on some level of anonymity.  Of course, some are at the extreme ends; whether they're ultra anonymous and share nothing about themselves (this end generally includes those who partake in extreme trolling), or the opposite end where people share every little facet of their life.  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on July 25, 2014, 02:18:11 AM
Quote from: NeoLoco on July 24, 2014, 12:59:31 AM
It's strange how in internet land, the people who don't post photos of themselves are the most critical of others' photos. 

p.s.: (I know it's a "tehe" thing, just sayin'.)

If you want man, i will put a picture of my nuts (salted of course) as my avatar.  Then there will be no further comments on anyone else's avatar ever.  As a moderator, I strive to reduce conflict, and I think that would bottleneck the avatar talk right quick.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 25, 2014, 02:31:30 AM
 mesmrized

I don't think there's any real conflict among any persons, in this instance.  Wonka's comment was just a good time for me to address the issue.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 25, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
I don't really see any issue at all.  The only time conflict seems to arise is when one person is attempting to impose their own sensibilities on another.

In Mel's case, that was exactly the issue.  He thought we should advertise the forum. He thought he should be able to say and do what he wanted to say and do.  And, he had no ability whatsoever to accept that someone else might have a different view.  It was truly "Mel's World of Collecting".  So, while Mel may have participated a lot, I believe, in the final analysis, his participation came at too high a cost in terms of what we were forced to endure from him otherwise.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 25, 2014, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: holiday on July 25, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
I don't really see any issue at all.  The only time conflict seems to arise is when one person is attempting to impose their own sensibilities on another.

In Mel's case, that was exactly the issue.  He thought we should advertise the forum. He thought he should be able to say and do what he wanted to say and do.  And, he had no ability whatsoever to accept that someone else might have a different view.  It was truly "Mel's World of Collecting".  So, while Mel may have participated a lot, I believe, in the final analysis, his participation came at too high a cost in terms of what we were forced to endure from him otherwise.

It's not necessarily an "issue" as it's just part of the internet world.  One has to take the bad with the good with anything, and in this case, the internet enables people to be anonymous and poke fun at people, and not have people do the same back to them.  I'm not directing that toward Wonka or anyone, just in general.

Mel is a whole nother topic, but he did make a lot of positive contributions, and I won't try to weigh them against what some people may view as negatives.

I'll conclude my partaking in this deviation from the "mid-auction" with a classic song from Terry Reid:

http://www.youtube.com/v/C959v_3SSKo
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on July 25, 2014, 05:14:44 PM
Yeah, Mel doesn't tweak me like he does some others here.  He was a douche in the end, but Lord knows I've been one too.  Someone a lot smarter than me once said that everyone deserves at least one second chance. I resigned the judgment committee a long time ago....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 27, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
So, I was thinking...a little TLC...a nip and a tuck here and there...
What a bargain. 
Not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on July 27, 2014, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: brude on July 27, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
So, I was thinking...a little TLC...a nip and a tuck here and there...
What a bargain. 
Not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)


 dontknow.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on July 27, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: brude on July 27, 2014, 05:45:43 PM
So, I was thinking...a little TLC...a nip and a tuck here and there...
What a bargain. 
Not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191263745752&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123)


At least he has been lowing his price. He wanted a lot more a year or two ago. Maybe in 2017 it will be down to market value.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 27, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: Undead on July 27, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
At least he has been lowing his price. He wanted a lot more a year or two ago. Maybe in 2017 it will be down to market value.

I didn't realize that, Mike.
I been out of the game for too long, I guess.
How much more was he asking?
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Post by: Mirosae on July 28, 2014, 04:06:34 AM
 It is a great looking poster!! It needs a good home..
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 28, 2014, 05:57:48 AM
Quote from: Undead on July 27, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
At least he has been lowing his price. He wanted a lot more a year or two ago. Maybe in 2017 it will be down to market value.

do you really think he's ever going to get down to $5?
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Post by: Simes on July 30, 2014, 05:33:33 AM
Still haven't worked what it is he is selling really.

Is it a poster, or a dream?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 30, 2014, 05:46:02 AM
I actually like this part in his listing:

Poster looks MUCH BETTER than on pic

yeah.. when you see it in person, you don't even notice that almost a quarter of the poster is missing
 hitself
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 31, 2014, 03:43:29 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 30, 2014, 05:46:02 AM
yeah.. when you see it in person, you don't even notice that almost a quarter of the poster is missing
 hitself

 laugh1
My thoughts exactly.

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Post by: Mirosae on July 31, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
Quote from: brude on July 31, 2014, 03:43:29 AM
laugh1
My thoughts exactly.



hitself  oh... completely misread this.... lost in translation, i am hopeless  girly2.gif



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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 03, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
whaaaa....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warm-Bodies-Screen-Used-Prop-Nicholas-Hoult-Teresa-Palmer-Fruit-Cocktail-Can-/121400610093?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c440a4d2d
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on August 03, 2014, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 03, 2014, 08:00:41 AM
whaaaa....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warm-Bodies-Screen-Used-Prop-Nicholas-Hoult-Teresa-Palmer-Fruit-Cocktail-Can-/121400610093?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c440a4d2d


Hahahaha.
Hey wait...I'm seeing an angle here.
Time to cash in on some big-screen product placement.
Who knows....our cupboards just might be gold mines.
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Post by: Mirosae on August 03, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
My favourite ebay: "this poster is a bargain ready to frame, like brand new new"

Condition: new print.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ed_209uk on August 10, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
This seller has definitely chosen the most ostentatious way to showcase his James Bond posters for sale on ebay.

Check out the other pictures (and items): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-Goldfinger-Movie-Poster-1970s-Belgian-Re-issue-/221518596234 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-Goldfinger-Movie-Poster-1970s-Belgian-Re-issue-/221518596234)

(http://www.filmonpaper.com/site/media/2014/08/Aston_BondAuction.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on August 10, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
 ;D

I think thats pretty cool.
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Post by: 110x75 on August 11, 2014, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: Zorba on August 10, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
;D

I think thats pretty cool.

What about this, Z?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/When-A-Stranger-Calls-79-20-pgs-Every-Babysitters-Nightmare-Becomes-Real-/291212581083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cd9f58db (http://www.ebay.com/itm/When-A-Stranger-Calls-79-20-pgs-Every-Babysitters-Nightmare-Becomes-Real-/291212581083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cd9f58db)
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Post by: Ari on August 11, 2014, 12:14:51 AM
Hahaha what's with the ducks? That's nuts. I like it.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2014, 02:56:38 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 11, 2014, 12:06:48 AM
What about this, Z?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/When-A-Stranger-Calls-79-20-pgs-Every-Babysitters-Nightmare-Becomes-Real-/291212581083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cd9f58db (http://www.ebay.com/itm/When-A-Stranger-Calls-79-20-pgs-Every-Babysitters-Nightmare-Becomes-Real-/291212581083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cd9f58db)

if I win any of the auction, do I just get the girl, or does the pressbook come with the lot?
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Post by: brude on August 11, 2014, 04:18:15 AM
Any resto tips for duck poop on pressbooks?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on August 11, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 11, 2014, 02:56:38 AM
if I win any of the auction, do I just get the girl, or does the pressbook come with the lot?

A few bargains can be found on ebay, but I don't think you can get the girl that cheap Rich  ;)
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Post by: Zorba on August 12, 2014, 09:11:51 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 11, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
A few bargains can be found on ebay, but I don't think you can get the girl that cheap Rich  ;)

Do you know her Matias?  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on August 19, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
too rich for my blood - but awesome poster
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3545555

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140812/550/british_quad_death_proof_dupe2_BM00989_C.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on August 19, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
There are some serious Anime poster collectors out there....  Whoever won them, congratulations.  They are awesome.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3545970

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3546003

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/japanese_b1_porco_rosso_JC12288_C_zps29d450ac.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/hhrussell/media/japanese_b1_porco_rosso_JC12288_C_zps29d450ac.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/hhrussell/japanese_b1_grave_of_the_fireflies_JC12288_C_zpsfb884501.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/hhrussell/media/japanese_b1_grave_of_the_fireflies_JC12288_C_zpsfb884501.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on August 19, 2014, 09:49:38 PM
That DeathProof quad is groovy.  cool1

Pretty impressive prices on those two B1s.  They're really cool, and surely ultra rare. 

I wonder if in the near future we'll be seeing more auctions loaded with cool Japanese stuff over at eMovie.  coffee
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Post by: eatbrie on August 19, 2014, 09:59:40 PM
Nice.  Don't know why, but nice.

I only got 10 of your posters, and all super cheap, because 1) I'm super cheap, and 2) I wanted to make sure you'd get nothing in return.

XOXO

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 19, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on August 19, 2014, 09:49:38 PM
That DeathProof quad is groovy.  cool1

Pretty impressive prices on those two B1s.  They're really cool, and surely ultra rare. 

I wonder if in the near future we'll be seeing more auctions loaded with cool Japanese stuff over at eMovie.  coffee

I think you can count on it....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 19, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 19, 2014, 09:59:40 PM
Nice.  Don't know why, but nice.

I only got 10 of your posters, and all super cheap, because 1) I'm super cheap, and 2) I wanted to make sure you'd get nothing in return.

XOXO

T

That's my man!  

On the B1, one was Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli, of course, and the other was also Studio Ghibli and could have easily been Miyazaki's (it wasn't).  That's why you like them, and why everyone else does too.  I didn't hold on to a lot of anime, but the ones I did are the great ones like Spirited Away for which I have all three B1's.  Those I would not sell.  

Glad you picked up a few.  I won't hold your fucking cheapness against you.  It's because you're wife is cute and your kids are cute. You, are not cute.  I wouldn't want to be the cause of you taking money out of the food budget to buy posters.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on August 19, 2014, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 19, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
I think you can count on it....

Excellent. 

pcorn
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Post by: Zorba on August 19, 2014, 11:01:05 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 19, 2014, 10:05:49 PM
 It's because you're wife is cute and your kids are cute. You, are not cute.  

Well played!  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 19, 2014, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 19, 2014, 11:01:05 PM
Well played!  ;D

Nice.  You just made my list.

Not a good list to be on.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on August 19, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 19, 2014, 11:19:38 PM
Nice.  You just made my list.

Not a good list to be on.

T

What I do?  :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on August 19, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
Quote from: Zorba on August 19, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
What I do?  :D

It's the list of people Thierry will never sell to  :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:40:57 AM
Quote from: CSM on August 19, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
It's the list of people Thierry will never sell to  :-*

That list is infinite....  Theirry wouldn't sell a poster to the Almighty himself.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on August 20, 2014, 09:52:59 AM
Sell me your Bieber poster, son...

(http://www.sholyspirit.org/images/jesus1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on August 20, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Maybe T would consider donating some as a way of keeping greasy dealer fingers off his babies?   

I had an extra ww1 Red Cross poster, which I auctioned off on ebay around xmas time under the caveat of proceeds going to the ICRC.  It actually did fairly well, everyone came out happy.  My awesomeness never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on August 20, 2014, 10:26:02 AM
Quote from: holiday on August 19, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
I think you can count on it....


Someone must be listening.  Just noticed on EMP list of future auctions...

8/26 to 9/2  CHANGED inserts and Japanese B2s

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 19, 2014, 09:59:40 PM
Nice.  Don't know why, but nice.

I only got 10 of your posters, and all super cheap, because 1) I'm super cheap, and 2) I wanted to make sure you'd get nothing in return.

XOXO

T

I could only manage three out of 12 I bid on.  T beat me out on the Island B1 after a little back and forth (bastard), he also got the Few Good Men (meh), Skyjackers got the Charlie and Chocolate and someone really wanted the Matchpoint...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Oh yeah, that Island B1...  I've wanted it ever since Holiday posted it on his site.  I wasn't going to let it go.  It was probably the only one I was going to fight for.  I don't care so much about any of the other ones I got.  Although I'm happy I got Unforgiven for $28.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Although I'm happy I got Unforgiven for $28.

T

That was a good buy...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Oh yeah, that Island B1...  I've wanted it ever since Holiday posted it on his site.  I wasn't going to let it go.  It was probably the only one I was going to fight for.  I don't care so much about any of the other ones I got.  Although I'm happy I got Unforgiven for $28.

T

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of:  "I don't much care so much about any of the other ones I got."

I have to say, when I was in the mix way back when, when I got a poster in that I bought, it was thrilling to pull that fucker out of the tube and have a look.  I think when I realized I had gotten to the point of collecting for the sake of collecting, that was it for me.

I still buy a few here and there, and when I do, I got that good 'ole lovin' feeling back like it used to be. 
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Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 01:37:59 PM
That was a good buy...

He's just trying to stir the shit.  I don't care what they go for. Really.  I'm happy to have the fuckers out of my way and into someone else's way.

Now, my collection takes up 6 tubes.  That's down FROM 150 FUCKING TUBES (at least).

And I still have 10 flat files that are filled with another 2000 or so posters that will go eventually, when I can dig them out from behind my secretary's desk that's blocking the drawers.

Man, I am SO over it!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on August 20, 2014, 09:58:07 PM
:)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
I have to say, when I was in the mix way back when, when I got a poster in that I bought, it was thrilling to pull that fucker out of the tube and have a look. 

I can't wait to pull this one out of the tube.  Thanks a bunch, we owe it all to you H...

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/japanese_b1_good_woman_JC12288_C.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
He's just trying to stir the shit.

Actually, I wasn't trying to stir the shit.  I am genuinely happy I got it for $28.  And you misinterpreted what I said above.  I didn't mean to say that I didn't care about what I got.  What I meant to say is that I wouldn't have gone much higher than what I got them for.  I did not need them, but I'm happy I got them.

And while you're at it, go fuck yourself.

Love always,

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Quote from: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
I can't wait to pull this one out of the tube.  Thanks a bunch, we owe it all to you H...

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/japanese_b1_good_woman_JC12288_C.jpg)

Yeah, that's a nice one.  I should have gone for it.  I've been very careful with my poster buying lately, because it is linked to the stock market, and as we all know, the market has taken a dive lately.  But now it's up again, so I should have bought it since I know I will never see it again.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 10:03:52 PM
Actually, I wasn't trying to stir the shit.  I am genuinely happy I got it for $28.  And you misinterpreted what I said above.  I didn't mean to say that I didn't care about what I got.  What I meant to say is that I wouldn't have gone much higher than what I got them for.  I did not need them, but I'm happy I got them.

And while you're at it, go fuck yourself.

Love always,

T

I love you too, asshole.

I did misinterpret so thanks for clarifying.  I do get caring to a point.  Some posters I would get at any cost.  Others much less so.

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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 20, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
lol
You guys are awesome!  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 10:12:12 PM
I think it's safe to say that nearly every B1 you come across, whether mine or others, you will not see again, or it will be years before you do. The exceptions are few, but they happen, such as the glut of B1s for The Dark Knight or Melancholia that occurred in the last few years. But not many.

One of the B1's that's still with me is for No Country for Old Men.  I have never seen another one since.  If it came up for auction now, it could go for $50 or $500 or $1000 on any given day, depending on whether the right people where there.  I know there are a few out there that would pay over $1000 for it.  And there's a few that wouldn't pay more than $50.  Do you take the risk it won't come up again, waiting for the lower price?  No fucking way.  

I've only been burned a few times. I paid hundreds for Melancholia B1's when they turned out to be as common as Thierry's bullshit.  But, for each one of those, there are 200 at least that did not show up again.

So, the time to buy is when you have the chance.  Wimps need not apply.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 20, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
lol
You guys are awesome!  thumbsup.gif

The only other person that puts up with him as easily as me is his wife.  At least I don't have to fuck him.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 20, 2014, 11:01:58 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 20, 2014, 10:12:12 PM
So, the time to buy is when you have the chance.  Wimps need not apply.

This is so true.  I own about 260 B1s and 95% of them I have only seen once, when I bought them.  I wonder why.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 20, 2014, 11:04:19 PM
Because I bought them all.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on August 20, 2014, 11:23:50 PM
 ;D

I am entertained!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on August 20, 2014, 11:34:17 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 20, 2014, 11:04:19 PM
Because I bought them all.

What he said.. the japanese poster crash has started. Hopefully stuff is gonna get cheaper now!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 21, 2014, 08:36:39 AM
What makes you say that, Dale? And, is that something that tends to be more relevant to B2's as opposed to B1's?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on August 21, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
I am thinking, with you in dump mode the overall prices in Japanese material in general are going to come down. Yes, I believe you alone had that much impact on this market.

 ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on August 21, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: Charlie on August 20, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
I can't wait to pull this one out of the tube.  Thanks a bunch, we owe it all to you H...

(http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/japanese_b1_good_woman_JC12288_C.jpg)

It really is a beautiful poster. It has a lovely glow...congrats Charlie!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on August 21, 2014, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on August 21, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
It really is a beautiful poster. It has a lovely glow...congrats Charlie!

Thanks! I am quite proud, as you can tell...  These B1s are impossible to find...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 21, 2014, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on August 21, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
I am thinking, with you in dump mode the overall prices in Japanese material in general are going to come down. Yes, I believe you alone had that much impact on this market.

 ;)

I pretty much agree with Dale.. you lose just a few collectors in any area and you see a downgrade
you sell more of them than can be handled by the market AND you lose just a few collectors and it speeds up faster

the supermarket supply of posters being offered into the hobby is a negative to sustainability to price structures and can be easily examined to see how price deterioration happens
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on August 21, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
I think Dale was joking.

It doesn't matter if Holiday sells his entire collection.  It is still one B1 per film available and it only takes one collector off the market.  The rest will continue looking for these posters until they die.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest8 on August 21, 2014, 06:48:58 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 20, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
He's just trying to stir the shit.  I don't care what they go for. Really.  I'm happy to have the fuckers out of my way and into someone else's way.

Now, my collection takes up 6 tubes.  That's down FROM 150 FUCKING TUBES (at least).

And I still have 10 flat files that are filled with another 2000 or so posters that will go eventually, when I can dig them out from behind my secretary's desk that's blocking the drawers.

Man, I am SO over it!

So will you be letting the 'Lily' Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus poster go any time soon? :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on August 21, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on August 21, 2014, 06:48:58 PM
So will you be letting the 'Lily' Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus poster go any time soon? :)

Yeah, right after pigs fly out of his ass.  wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 21, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 21, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
I think Dale was joking.

It doesn't matter if Holiday sells his entire collection.  It is still one B1 per film available and it only takes one collector off the market.  The rest will continue looking for these posters until they die.

T

A little dense.... nothing new there....

There are a lot of Japanese collectors still out there, and I think the demand is still high on the good stuff. The question is, what's the good stuff these days?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on August 21, 2014, 08:05:56 PM
Quote from: brude on August 21, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Yeah, right after pigs fly out of his ass.  wynk

Ah.... NO.

Lily is in the top 5 of my collection.  She'll hit the market  when I dead.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 22, 2014, 03:10:29 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 21, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
I think Dale was joking.

It doesn't matter if Holiday sells his entire collection.  It is still one B1 per film available and it only takes one collector off the market.  The rest will continue looking for these posters until they die.

T

you forget.. one less competitor results in fewer bids results in lower selling price
capitalist reality
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Post by: holiday on August 22, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 22, 2014, 03:10:29 AM
you forget.. one less competitor results in fewer bids results in lower selling price
capitalist reality

Well, one less competitor on the lower tier stuff....
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Post by: eatbrie on August 22, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 22, 2014, 03:10:29 AM
you forget.. one less competitor results in fewer bids results in lower selling price
capitalist reality

I agree, but just the fact that we are talking about it right now is exposure and probably added 2 or 3 lur-kers into the mix.

T
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Post by: Charlie on August 22, 2014, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 22, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
I agree, but just the fact that we are talking about it right now is exposure and probably added 2 or 3 lur-kers into the mix.

T

You can't see this thread unless you are logged in... 

Oh and Japanese posters suck btw:

-you have to buy special frames
-get a Japanese translator
-they are never first release (believe me!)
-latch on to people to find them for you
-beg Holiday to let you win one (wait,  woohoo)
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Post by: Mirosae on August 22, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
^ I'll be happy too Charlie!

Incidentally, thank you H for keeping me busy.  I will need to Google now the "Lily" poster...im really curious to see it.. :D
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Post by: guest8 on August 22, 2014, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on August 22, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
^ I'll be happy too Charlie!

Incidentally, thank you H for keeping me busy.  I will need to Google now the "Lily" poster...im really curious to see it.. :D

This is the Lily poster .. Only one of 3 that I know of that made it into the wild ..
(http://blog.modelmanagement.com/library/uploads/Parnassus-Poster-Lily-Cole.jpg)
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Post by: holiday on August 22, 2014, 11:46:41 PM
It is simply one of the finest posters every, I think.  Ultimate rarity.   Superb beauty.  Everything a unicorn is all about.  I'm very fortunate to get to keep her for awhile.  Sooner or later, she will move on into the sweaty palms ... er. ... hands of another collector....
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Post by: Mirosae on August 23, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
Quote from: fallenangel1 on August 22, 2014, 08:07:58 PM
This is the Lily poster .. Only one of 3 that I know of that made it into the wild ..
(http://blog.modelmanagement.com/library/uploads/Parnassus-Poster-Lily-Cole.jpg)


Ohhhhhhhhh ahhhhh

I understand now. I can see why you all love it so much!
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Post by: Simes on August 23, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
Can someone explain to me the apparently obvious?

Apologies and thanks in advance.
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Post by: CSM on August 23, 2014, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: Simes on August 23, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
Can someone explain to me the apparently obvious?

Apologies and thanks in advance.

Haha!
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Post by: Neo on August 23, 2014, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: Simes on August 23, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
Can someone explain to me the apparently obvious?

Apologies and thanks in advance.

Quote from: CSM on August 23, 2014, 12:54:15 PM
Haha!

The young lady on The Imaginarium one sheet is not James Bond, and it's not vintage.

You're welcome.
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Post by: Neo on August 23, 2014, 03:38:18 PM
That one for The Imaginarium is rad.  cool1
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Post by: guest8 on August 23, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: holiday on August 22, 2014, 11:46:41 PM
It is simply one of the finest posters every, I think.  Ultimate rarity.   Superb beauty.  Everything a unicorn is all about.  I'm very fortunate to get to keep her for awhile.  Sooner or later, she will move on into the sweaty palms ... er. ... hands of another collector....

Let me guess .. you still havent framed it yet have you!? :P
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Post by: holiday on August 23, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
I have, but not professionally.  It's in a basic frame.  She has spent a lot of time on the wall.  We all walk by when she's on the wall and say "Hi Lily!".  We moved recently, so she's in the closet now....
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Post by: guest8 on August 24, 2014, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: holiday on August 23, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
We all walk by when she's on the wall and say "Hi Lily!".
That makes me :D
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Post by: Simes on August 24, 2014, 11:18:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on August 23, 2014, 12:54:15 PM
Haha!

Am actually being serious...

Please remember also I was slow to catch on with the 'towers' in some Disney picture poster, in case this is related.
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Post by: Neo on August 24, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
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Post by: Louie D. on August 24, 2014, 03:21:38 PM
Interesting to see these Educations going for this much. I have always loved the artwork on the Educational's from this period:

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/comedy/north-of-zero-fox-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-comedy/a/161434-54311.s
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/comedy/she-s-my-lilly-i-m-her-willie-fox-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-comedy/a/161434-54380.s

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Post by: CSM on August 24, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
Quote from: Simes on August 24, 2014, 11:18:48 AM
Am actually being serious...

Please remember also I was slow to catch on with the 'towers' in some Disney picture poster, in case this is related.

Oh I know.  My "ha ha" was more a reflection of your bluntness (and the fact I have the same thoughts generally)
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Post by: Mirosae on August 24, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on August 24, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
Oh I know.  My "ha ha" was more a reflection of your bluntness (and the fact I have the same thoughts generally)

Quote from: NeoLoco on August 24, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
.

It reminds me of The Garden of Earthly Delights  by Bosch.

To me its  design and overall aesthetic appearance merits my time. Worth looking at it. Though I know that this discussion is redundant.
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Post by: Mirosae on August 24, 2014, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on August 24, 2014, 03:21:38 PM
Interesting to see these Educations going for this much. I have always loved the artwork on the Educational's from this period:

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/comedy/north-of-zero-fox-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-comedy/a/161434-54311.s
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/comedy/she-s-my-lilly-i-m-her-willie-fox-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-comedy/a/161434-54380.s



Agree. Though I have an issue with the title. Don't like the "my lilly her willie" ..nah
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Post by: wonka on August 25, 2014, 01:54:11 PM
This Argentina ALIEN subway ending tomorrow is pretty cool:

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140819/550/argentinean_2p_alien_BM01315_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3553434 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3553434)

 ;D
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Post by: 110x75 on August 25, 2014, 07:25:22 PM
It is cool Ben.
Argentinean 2 sheets like that are used mostly as wildings, in the street.
Sometimes they are used in the subway, but only in Buenos Aires, the only city down here that has a subway system.
This one here is a 6 sheet, but you get the idea

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/NecroSubway_zps280669c0.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/NS4/NecroSubway2222_zps5d6b059e.jpg)
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Post by: wonka on August 25, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
Appreciate the info here, Matias. Thank you.

I haven't seen too many of these, and the fact that they were used for street marketing makes them pretty rare, I suppose.
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Post by: 110x75 on August 25, 2014, 08:44:48 PM
No problem, Ben.
Some of these are hard to find, as not many were saved from being pasted in the walls. Others seem to pop up regularly, specially if they are from important releases (like the alien above).

This is one of the giants:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/TDKR-wilding1.jpg)

Made of 6 of those 2sheets:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC04774.jpg)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 25, 2014, 10:18:56 PM
that Alien poster commonly comes up on eBay via Nick
it's cool. even I have one.
the price has always seemed rather low to me, but if it's that common, it won't command much anyway
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Post by: 110x75 on August 25, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
And there will be many more coming probably.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 26, 2014, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on August 25, 2014, 07:25:22 PM
Sometimes they are used in the subway, but only in Buenos Aires, the only city down here that has a subway system.
This one here is a 6 sheet, but you get the idea

Very cool pic Matias.  Love to see those posters in action.  thumbup
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Post by: Harry Caul on August 26, 2014, 09:43:37 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 26, 2014, 08:50:06 AM
Very cool pic Matias.  Love to see those posters in action.  thumbup

I believe there is a thread for that.... :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on August 26, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
Thanks for nothing, Rich and Matias. Was trying to plug my auction... :( :'( ;)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 26, 2014, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: wonka on August 26, 2014, 01:02:39 PM
Thanks for nothing, Rich and Matias. Was trying to plug my auction... :( :'( ;)

lol...the post did have a funny smell to it... 
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Post by: 110x75 on August 26, 2014, 01:49:19 PM
Well, it is currently at $2 more than the last one sold, so not bad  :P
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Post by: paul waines on August 26, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
 :o  Wow Ben, that's the best Alien poster I've seen...








 wynk
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Post by: wonka on August 26, 2014, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: paul waines on August 26, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
:o  Wow Ben, that's the best Alien poster I've seen...

Cheers, Paul!

Its also the last original ALIEN poster that will ever be sold. Ever.
Just a heads up, everyone.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on August 27, 2014, 09:18:12 AM
Quote from: wonka on August 25, 2014, 01:54:11 PM
This Argentina ALIEN subway ending tomorrow is pretty cool:


are we happy?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on August 27, 2014, 09:22:11 AM
It is a strong price for that poster!
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Post by: wonka on August 27, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
Its all about the marketing degree, fellas.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on August 27, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: wonka on August 27, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
Its all about the marketing degree, fellas.  :)

does that mean an APF-er was the lucky winner?  Cmon out with it CL272665 whip
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 29, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
EMP got a lot of balls these days.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3558326

"We have provided an image of the front of the jar and the back of the jar so that you can see most if not all of the marbles" 
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Post by: erik1925 on August 29, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 29, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
EMP got a lot of balls these days.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3558326

"We have provided an image of the front of the jar and the back of the jar so that you can see most if not all of the marbles"  


First time i've ever read a description of a round jar having a front and a back.  laugh1  And I wonder what the poster connection/angle/tie-in is supposed to be (if any)..... dontknow.gif





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Post by: Harry Caul on August 29, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 29, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
EMP got a lot of balls these days.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3558326

"We have provided an image of the front of the jar and the back of the jar so that you can see most if not all of the marbles" 

Thanks a lot for outing this auction asshole! 

 ;D
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 29, 2014, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 29, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
 And I wonder what the poster connection/angle/tie-in is supposed to be (if any).....
logic goes out the window when you're drinking "invigorating corn and cane sugars..."!!
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3558323
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Post by: paul waines on August 29, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 29, 2014, 12:26:39 PM

First time i've ever read a description of a round jar having a front and a back.  laugh1  And I wonder what the poster connection/angle/tie-in is supposed to be (if any)..... dontknow.gif


Of course there's a back and front, otherwise how would they know where to stick the label...
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Post by: Mirosae on August 29, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 29, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
EMP got a lot of balls these days

Thought you were talking about something else! !! :P

  >:D

 ;)
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Post by: wonka on August 29, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
eMarbles?
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Post by: erik1925 on August 29, 2014, 03:18:01 PM
Quote from: paul waines on August 29, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
Of course there's a back and front, otherwise how would they know where to stick the label...

 ;D
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Post by: jpicken on August 30, 2014, 07:48:35 AM
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/dr-no-united-artists-1962-cgc-graded-lobby-card-11-x-14-james-bond/a/161433-53152.s#Photo

CGC graded lobby card?  Is that a new thing?  I don't normally collect lobby cards, but I have to admit that this is the first one I have seen graded like a comic book.  Do collectors find there is value in getting a lobby card graded?  Is this the beginning of this for movie material?

For me, I don't think I would pay extra because it's graded, and posters as large as one-sheet size would be hard to encapsulate.  However, I was just curious of other's opinions?

(oops. Sorry. I guess this should have been in post auction analysis)  :-[
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Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2014, 10:58:31 AM
They have been around for a few years now, to me it looked like Heritage had a deal with them to try to get the slabbing of lobby cards off the ground.

I don't trust these "graders" one bit. There is a baseball card graders/slabbers PSA who gave a T-206 Honus Wagner card am 8 (NM-MT) grade and it was owned by Wayne Gretzky and Bruce McNall and sold at Sotheby's in their first huge baseball memorabilia sale and sold a few times after for even more crazy $$$. Funny thing is, the guy who originally sold the card, Bill Mastro, admitted in court he had trimmed the card and PSA either never picked up on it or since the owners where who they were just turned a blind eye.

http://www.cardboardconnection.com/bill-mastro-pleads-guilty-t206-honus-wagner-trimmed

My father also belonds to an old time baseball card forum and there have been people on there who have sent cards in to PSA for grading, got them back, took them out of the slabbing and sent them back numerous times and they came back with different grades each time.

I think it's a scam.
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Post by: Mirosae on August 30, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
^Thanks Louie, this is very helpful. I admit I too found this CGC grading a novelty.

Your link makes quite an interesting reading!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2014, 04:53:08 PM
Mastro Auctions was a group of thieves and far from an anomaly
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Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2014, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2014, 04:53:08 PM
Mastro Auctions was a group of thieves and far from an anomaly

I'll agree with that!
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Post by: erik1925 on August 30, 2014, 06:20:05 PM
Just an observation here---

For such an early film, it's amazing how often material for this shows up, either on auction sites, or ebay. And the poster items are usually in very good condition. The film is The Green Eyed Monster (1919). Right now, another 6 sheet is being offered on ebay, with a BIN of $2310.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GREEN-EYED-MONSTER-Jack-1919-MOVIE-POSTER-120879-/151202303709?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23345c0edd
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
one of a number of different posters where it is obvious stacks of undistributed posters have been found. There are quite a few different titles of this nature
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Post by: CSM on September 01, 2014, 03:06:05 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on August 29, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Thanks a lot for outing this auction asshole! 

 ;D


 rofl1

Bruce must be getting bored with posters...
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Post by: jayn_j on September 02, 2014, 10:55:59 AM
I would guess they are Bruce's, and he is losing them!
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Post by: Mirosae on September 02, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
wow.. I don't usually out auctions, but I had to post this one fo rsure

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Houdini-King-Of-Cards-Poster-Lobby-card-size-/261582948224?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce78f0780
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on September 03, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
wow.. I don't usually out auctions, but I had to post this one fo rsure

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Houdini-King-Of-Cards-Poster-Lobby-card-size-/261582948224?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce78f0780

For $20 bucks?  I'm in ... er.... I mean I'm there...  Whatever....
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Post by: erik1925 on September 05, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Looks to be another Portal Publications poster being offered on ebay. The seller describes it as a WC in her heading, but the 19x28 inch size of what should be a full size OS, is the giveaway.

It's for the 1918 film, Good Night Paul, with Constance Talmadge.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Original-Antique-1918-LOBBY-CARD-Silent-MOVIE-POSTER-Good-Night-Paul-/321512213880?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

I wrote the seller and explained what she has. Emovie also sold on in 2012, and I sent her that link, as well. Now to see if the description and opening bid price changes (or not).  dontknow.gif

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Post by: Mirosae on September 05, 2014, 02:59:36 PM
 :-\
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Post by: erik1925 on September 06, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
The Portal seller I mentioned above has fallen silent. Up until i messaged and gave her that last info, she replied back to my previous questions very quickly. So going mum is very telling, IMO.

And i just checked the auction page and all the info has remained unchanged.  eyeroll

Let's hope no one gets snookered.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 06, 2014, 06:48:36 PM
I stopped bothering with this crap years ago. Once in a while the person believes you, most of the time they don't trust you, thinking you're trying to pull some woll over their eyes. This piece has been listed for months and will continue to be listed and unsold until someone who doesn't know anything & isn't a collector buys it.. that's life. I can't protect everyone, just those who come through my circle
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 06, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
The only wool being pulled now, is by that seller. As mentioned, I sent her a link to one that measures the same size, that emovie sold, so she didnt think I was just blowing smoke. She has the facts and now fell silent, knowing the truth about what she is selling.

And i hear you, rich... im not trying to protect everyone, either. Just a little alert to those that will read this thread.   ;)

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Post by: Harry Caul on September 06, 2014, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 06, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
The Portal seller I mentioned above has fallen silent. Up until i messaged and gave her that last info, she replied back to my previous questions very quickly. So going mum is very telling, IMO.

And i just checked the auction page and all the info has remained unchanged.  eyeroll

Let's hope no one gets snookered.

How about this piece of shit seller....  here was the first listing:  ORIGINAL LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007-/121428506463?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659647514877776&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_qi=RTM1562570&nma=true&si=1L%252F%252FWJgMXCokvS3QfeRXkFehmdk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

I kindly pointed out that it is in fact *not* a first release poster from 1964, but that it's one of the 1980s re-release posters.  I pointed him to the authentication page and told him you can tell by the placement of the title.  No response.  I check a day later and the item was relisted -- now with a stock photo of a 1964 poster and he removed his photo of the title block on his 80s re-release poster!   

gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1

NEW LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007/121429150675?_trksid=p2050601.c100272.m3467&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659221204005155&_qi=RTM1562569)

I normally would say don't bother, but in this case y'all should bombard him with nasty messages with links to his previous auction photos!  I already did!  What a f#@ker. 
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Post by: CSM on September 07, 2014, 01:37:26 AM
Does it really surprise you when he cannot even spell "Goliath" correctly?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
$107 so far for this beauty.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5554/15007112778_2a3254b93e_b.jpg)

This hobby will never cease to surprise me.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on September 09, 2014, 08:21:43 PM
The wear and tear adds character to it.  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on September 09, 2014, 08:21:43 PM
The wear and tear adds character to it.  8)

Seriously though, if this was in my collection, it would go straight to the trash.  I have trashed lots of better looking posters, which makes me wonder how much money I have wasted.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on September 09, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
Seriously though, if this was in my collection, it would go straight to the trash.  I have trashed lots of better looking posters, which makes me wonder how much money I have wasted.

T

 ;D

Wish I had the chance to dumpster dive.

I did worse in my first year than $107 but at least not on anything that bad.

Havent bought much lately but I have still been entertained greatly.

This is the best hobby ever. Too bad you need money to play  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 09, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: Zorba on September 09, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
;D

Wish I had the chance to dumpster dive.

I did worse in my first year than $107 but at least not on anything that bad.

Havent bought much lately but I have still been entertained greatly.

This is the best hobby ever. Too bad you need money to play  :P

Yeah.. i hear you Z. But every now and then, something squeaks by that may not have cost an arm and a leg, right?   Doh.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: holiday on September 09, 2014, 10:46:46 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 08:26:27 PM
Seriously though, if this was in my collection, it would go straight to the trash.  I have trashed lots of better looking posters, which makes me wonder how much money I have wasted.

T

Without doubt, a pile of money.  Just because you think it's trash doesn't make it so. 

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Sunsanvil on September 10, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 06, 2014, 09:11:23 PM
How about this piece of shit seller....  here was the first listing:  ORIGINAL LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007-/121428506463?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659647514877776&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_qi=RTM1562570&nma=true&si=1L%252F%252FWJgMXCokvS3QfeRXkFehmdk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

I kindly pointed out that it is in fact *not* a first release poster from 1964, but that it's one of the 1980s re-release posters.  I pointed him to the authentication page and told him you can tell by the placement of the title.  No response.  I check a day later and the item was relisted -- now with a stock photo of a 1964 poster and he removed his photo of the title block on his 80s re-release poster!  

gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1

NEW LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007/121429150675?_trksid=p2050601.c100272.m3467&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659221204005155&_qi=RTM1562569)

I normally would say don't bother, but in this case y'all should bombard him with nasty messages with links to his previous auction photos!  I already did!  What a f#@ker.  

This is hysterical because I ALSO messaged the seller, telling them basically the same thing you did...and was shocked to see not a revised description, but a swap out of the main photo.  LOL.

Nevertheless, someone overpaid for it I see....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on September 10, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
$107 so far for this beauty.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5554/15007112778_2a3254b93e_b.jpg)

This hobby will never cease to surprise me.

T

I would totally buy a poster that looked like that....if it was from the 1930s.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on September 10, 2014, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 09, 2014, 10:38:58 PM
Yeah.. i hear you Z. But every now and then, something squeaks by that may not have cost an arm and a leg, right?   Doh.gif

Every now and then hard work does pays off.

Yes. There are others working hard and then you also have hard working outers.  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on September 11, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 06, 2014, 09:11:23 PM
How about this piece of shit seller....  here was the first listing:  ORIGINAL LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007-/121428506463?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659647514877776&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_qi=RTM1562570&nma=true&si=1L%252F%252FWJgMXCokvS3QfeRXkFehmdk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)

I kindly pointed out that it is in fact *not* a first release poster from 1964, but that it's one of the 1980s re-release posters.  I pointed him to the authentication page and told him you can tell by the placement of the title.  No response.  I check a day later and the item was relisted -- now with a stock photo of a 1964 poster and he removed his photo of the title block on his 80s re-release poster!   

gun1 gun1 gun1 gun1

NEW LISTING: GOLDFINGER 1964 U.S. 1 sheet near mint! James Bond 007 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-U-S-1-sheet-near-mint-James-Bond-007/121429150675?_trksid=p2050601.c100272.m3467&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813112422%26meid%3D30b6ae5055af4b758147d5bff25deec7%26pid%3D100272%26prg%3D20140813112422%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121429150675%26clkid%3D349659221204005155&_qi=RTM1562569)

I normally would say don't bother, but in this case y'all should bombard him with nasty messages with links to his previous auction photos!  I already did!  What a f#@ker. 

I would think that if Ebay saw this post they would have to do something about this f*cking thief.
You should send this info to someone over there, Matt.
Dude needs to be banned from the bay.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 12, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: brude on September 11, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
I would think that if Ebay saw this post they would have to do something about this f*cking thief.
You should send this info to someone over there, Matt.
Dude needs to be banned from the bay.


Unfortunately Ted as we all well know it is unlikely eBay will do anything at all...they want their cut of the auction proceeds (illicit or otherwise) of course
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 12, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
If you were going to ban thieves from Ebay, you would have to ban half of their members.  I deal with thieves every single day.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 12, 2014, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 05, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Looks to be another Portal Publications poster being offered on ebay. The seller describes it as a WC in her heading, but the 19x28 inch size of what should be a full size OS, is the giveaway.

It's for the 1918 film, Good Night Paul, with Constance Talmadge.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Original-Antique-1918-LOBBY-CARD-Silent-MOVIE-POSTER-Good-Night-Paul-/321512213880?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

I wrote the seller and explained what she has. Emovie also sold on in 2012, and I sent her that link, as well. Now to see if the description and opening bid price changes (or not).  dontknow.gif



This one came and went.. and no one was fooled (this time anyhow) into making the opening $100 bid.  cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 09, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
$107 so far for this beauty.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5554/15007112778_2a3254b93e_b.jpg)

This hobby will never cease to surprise me.

T

I was just at an antique store and found a rolled copy of this poster for $75!  Excited right?  Until I pulled the bottom out of the frame and saw they had trimmed an 1" off of it to make it fit....   :'(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: archie leach on September 12, 2014, 06:36:19 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 12, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
If you were going to ban thieves from Ebay, you would have to ban half of their members.  I deal with thieves every single day.

That's what you get for living in Hollywood...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 12, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
Quote from: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
Excited right?

Not really.  There are so many copies of this poster, I don't even think it's worth $75.  But whatever.  If people are willing to pay $200 for it, I say let them.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
I concur... I just can't bring myself to buy it for more than about $75... 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
And I still need one!  It's one of my favs too...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on September 12, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 11:16:56 PM
And I still need one!  It's one of my favs too...

Just keep being patient and keep an eye out. I picked up all three a few months ago in extraordinarily clean shape for $25 just a few months ago.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 13, 2014, 01:42:19 AM
These 3 posters should only be in extraordinary clean shape, just like everything from the mid 80s on.  Anything short of that is a complete waste of money, imo.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on September 13, 2014, 10:07:25 PM
Quote from: Charlie on September 12, 2014, 11:16:06 PM
I concur... I just can't bring myself to buy it for more than about $75... 

I hear that. I wont go over $50.  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 15, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
The things people will try and hock in the poster section, on the bay...  sad.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mae-West-come-up-and-see-me-sometime-KNIGHT-Movie-Tshirt-1933-Rare-/251646670124?hash=item3a974f752c

Only $500 smackers... but as the seller says... it IS rare.   faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rumble on September 16, 2014, 06:58:27 AM
That auction actually had me look into the history of printed T-shirts! It seems one of the first examples of a decorated T-shirt appears in THE WIZARD OF OZ in 1939. Still a little later than this supposed "vintage" T-shirt tough...  ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-shirt
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 16, 2014, 09:52:31 PM
Interesting...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 17, 2014, 02:51:48 AM
Mae's tits were in that shirt. She wore it in between takes and Cary Grant's drool is still present on the front
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on September 17, 2014, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 17, 2014, 02:51:48 AM
Mae's tits were in that shirt. She wore it in between takes and Cary Grant's drool is still present on the front

That isn't drool...................
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 17, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 02:03:35 PM
Cimarron (1931) US OS. Being offered by collector, Doug Taylor, for $78,000.00 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CIMARRON-31-CLASSIC-ORIGINAL-US-ONE-SHEET-OS-VG-F-/331332141671?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d24ef4267

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-13_zps8f7089af.jpg)

His description states it was bought from a major auction house and a copy sold at HA, in March, 2014, for $50,787.50 (inc BP), so I'm assuming these are one in the same, considering how rare this OS is.  notworthy.gif

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/western/cimarron-rko-1931-one-sheet-27-x-415-/a/7094-83197.s

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on September 28, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
I see Johnny Cash.. :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 28, 2014, 03:07:08 PM
If it is the same Cimarron (and not the 1st one that sold for just over $100,000) I must say I will never understand why a buyer who is now a seller thinks the item they bought is now worth $30,000 more than they paid 6 months down the road.  Likely anyone who was willing to pay $78,000 for it would have done so at Heritage's auction.

Perplexing but of course this is encountered quite a bit...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
If it is the copy that was bought for $101+K, in 2012, that certainly is a price reduction.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 28, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
If it is the copy that was bought for $101+K, in 2012, that certainly is a price reduction.

I seem to recall that copy went to the MPAA or something?  Or perhaps they had the only known copy prior to Berwick?  Anyways, I do think the $100,000+ copy may have gone to an institution (would need to check the old threads).

More likely it is just the "hey this just has to be worth $30,000 more than it was in March because obviously no one knew about it then and now I will be generous enough to offer it"   eyeroll

Or like many "sellers" he is just showing it off on eBay with no real intention of selling.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 03:29:52 PM
This collector has the 2nd largest collection of Best Picture winning OS, next to the Academy. And in the youtube video link he posts on the auction page, he indicated that the whole collection was up for sale (and was also listed on ebay) for $1M, back in 2008.

It's interesting to hear him speak about it.

http://youtube.com/v/AyZWVMuCxHI
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
And then, to see what bruce sold a copy of the US OS for... granted it was back in Dec, 1992... $16,500.00

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11508698.html

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on September 28, 2014, 04:37:57 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 03:29:52 PM
This collector has the 2nd largest collection of Best Picture winning OS, next to the Academy. And in the youtube video link he posts on the auction page, he indicated that the whole collection was up for sale (and was also listed on ebay) for $1M, back in 2008.

It's interesting to hear him speak about it.

http://youtube.com/v/AyZWVMuCxHI

John Ford ' s How Green was my valley is the poster he has on show for the interview. I will give him points for that ( luv John Ford)

That aside...he is selling because he wants to share. ..well he can always donate them to my charity  Giveit2Rosa.com (http://Giveit2Rosa.com)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on September 28, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
Might want to get http://giveit2rosa.org if you are looking for donations :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on September 28, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on September 28, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
I see Johnny Cash.. :P

I see Ca$h
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on September 29, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
This guy has a bunch of vintage, commercial "personality" posters for various starlets, models, cheerleaders, etc.  8)

http://www.ebay.com/usr/trenchlessinvt (http://www.ebay.com/usr/trenchlessinvt)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 28, 2014, 03:07:08 PM
I must say I will never understand why a buyer who is now a seller thinks the item they bought is now worth $30,000 more than they paid

I must say I will never understand why anyone cares, and why anyone would choose to piss on Doug's listing

I must also say I will never understand why people then turn around and ask "why don't we get more members on this (or any other) forum"

not that I'm trying to stir anything up, I just find these things rather silly and rather humorous at the same time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 28, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
If it is the copy that was bought for $101+K, in 2012, that certainly is a price reduction.

no, it's the other copy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 29, 2014, 10:02:11 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 28, 2014, 03:07:08 PM
If it is the same Cimarron (and not the 1st one that sold for just over $100,000) I must say I will never understand why a buyer who is now a seller thinks the item they bought is now worth $30,000 more than they paid 6 months down the road.  Likely anyone who was willing to pay $78,000 for it would have done so at Heritage's auction.

There are lots of things that could go into that equation: Venue and timing are two that immediately come to mind.

Many old timers are familiar with our dear-departed "Drak666". Well in 2004 Heritage sold a Frankenstein 1-sheet for $189K.  A couple of short months later Drak purchased that poster from the buyer (who was a dealer) for an amount well over $30K plus the purchase price. Heritage of course still offered time payments (and in fact the dealer was time-paying the Frankenstein purchase), so I asked him why he didn't purchase it straight from Heritage as he certainly was aware of the sale.
"Timing."

We had another example on our own boards here not long ago from Silence and his regret over not being able to purchase a Gold Diggers when he wanted to as he had just bought a 50-Foot Woman 30sheet.

And then there is the Metropolis poster that failed to sell at a Christie's auction and then sold after, and many more examples.
Never propose to know the insides of another collector's wallet or their thought process.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 29, 2014, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 09:07:06 PM
I must say I will never understand why anyone cares, and why anyone would choose to piss on Doug's listing

I must also say I will never understand why people then turn around and ask "why don't we get more members on this (or any other) forum"

not that I'm trying to stir anything up, I just find these things rather silly and rather humorous at the same time.

What a surprise that you have a contrarian view Rich.  Have you ever agreed with anyone other than Sean?  :-*

You're a business man and a collector Rich, what is your perspective on the logic of pricing something $30,000 more than it was purchased for at a highly visible and no doubt competitive auction 6 months later?  Or is it simply "Doug can do whatever he wishes and no one should care"?  For the record, underneath it all, I really do not give two shits what Doug or anyone else tries to do in terms of selling their precious wares.  But this is an auction discussion thread and the logic as displayed in Doug's listing (and many, many like it) seems flawed to me so why not bring up that opinion for discussion.

If someone cannot stand reading a thread such as this about the thought processes leading someone to ask for a $30,000 profit in 6 months, perhaps APF is not the best place for them in the first place.  I, for one, am certainly not someone who has bemoaned a lack of members.  Those who have the desire and commitment to participate will do so regardless.  If 'potential members' are scared off by an occasional dearth of ignorance and rainbows so be it...  
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 29, 2014, 10:07:20 PM
What a surprise that you have a contrarian view Rich.  Have you ever agreed with anyone other than Sean?  :-*

You're a business man and a collector Rich, what is your perspective on the logic of pricing something $30,000 more than it was purchased for at a highly visible and no doubt competitive auction 6 months later?  Or is it simply "Doug can do whatever he wishes and no one should care"?  For the record, underneath it all, I really do not give two shits what Doug or anyone else tries to do in terms of selling their precious wares.  But this is an auction discussion thread and the logic as displayed in Doug's listing (and many, many like it) seems flawed to me so why not bring up that opinion for discussion.

If someone cannot stand reading a thread such as this about the thought processes leading someone to ask for a $30,000 profit in 6 months, perhaps APF is not the best place for them in the first place.  I, for one, am certainly not someone who has bemoaned a lack of members.  Those who have the desire and commitment to participate will do so regardless.  If 'potential members' are scared off by an occasional dearth of ignorance and rainbows so be it...  

Chris, that has to be the most idiotic post you have ever posted.

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Post by: CSM on September 29, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 10:15:03 PM
Chris, that has to be the most idiotic post you have ever posted.



My folly I suppose in asking for your perspective  eyeroll
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 29, 2014, 10:21:13 PM
My folly I suppose in asking for your perspective  eyeroll

no, it isn't folly to ask, only to be idiotic when asking

first of all, your characterization that I only agree with Sean is childish at best.
concerning the rest, it isn't wrong for you to discuss things about the hobby, but there is no reason for you to be so dismissive of something a money man is doing and it's wrong to piss on Doug and his actions, which is exactly what you are doing.

it's like this with some of you guys:
Heritage must be doing something wrong on the poster that sold for 1/2 price elsewhere, even though there is no evidence of any wrongdoing what-so-ever.
the newbie buying posters are well over the going rate for Fight Club and Cannonball Run must be nuts and of course we forget we were talking to him just yesterday too.
Doug Taylor must be nuts for trying to make a profit on a rare poster.

for what reason would someone want to join a group with those attitudes?

has pokerplayr posted here again since he was savaged by the same people who were friendly 3 days earlier? ask yourself why.
Doug Taylor reads this forum from time to time and I believe he has posted, though it goes way back, why would he want to engage you after your post which makes him seem greedy or stupid?

you can talk about these things without pissing on people.. and that would make the forum more useful to some of those lurkers who could become members if they felt they wouldn't be treated like pokerplayr and Doug.

Sean by the way was spot on. I believe Doug already owns another copy of this poster and believes (correctly) that such a poster could be a profitable purchase if he can find a good buyer. Same goes for all the people who will buy 1000 sub-$10 posters at some auctions to list on ebay or 10 $500 on ebay they can list in their retail stores and by the way, it was one of the points you failed to understand when I posted the differences between here and the CGC boards

what YOU perceive as the rightful price of something (to you it's auction prices only) has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of most posters that sell in this hobby which is way greater as an aggregate number than both of the big auctions annual total. Most posters being sold at one auction (by quantity) wind up for resale in other venues, at higher price than the auction achieves

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Post by: erik1925 on September 29, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 09:07:34 PM
no, it's the other copy.

I figured it had to be... but just covering all potential bases..  ;)
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Post by: Ari on September 29, 2014, 10:58:49 PM

I just sold a poster for $29.99. I got it from Rich MPB.com for under $2 (literally sold less than 5 minutes ago).
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 11:00:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 29, 2014, 10:54:10 PM
I figured it had to be... but just covering all potential bases..  ;)

if you read the condition description for the ebay listing, it compares to the second copy Heritage sold
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Post by: crowzilla on September 29, 2014, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ari on September 29, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
I just sold a poster for $29.99. I got it from Rich MPB.com for under $2 (literally sold less than 5 minutes ago).

Gouger. (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/poke2.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on September 29, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
no, it isn't folly to ask, only to be idiotic when asking

first of all, your characterization that I only agree with Sean is childish at best.
concerning the rest, it isn't wrong for you to discuss things about the hobby, but there is no reason for you to be so dismissive of something a money man is doing and it's wrong to piss on Doug and his actions, which is exactly what you are doing.

it's like this with some of you guys:
Heritage must be doing something wrong on the poster that sold for 1/2 price elsewhere, even though there is no evidence of any wrongdoing what-so-ever.
the newbie buying posters are well over the going rate for Fight Club and Cannonball Run must be nuts and of course we forget we were talking to him just yesterday too.
Doug Taylor must be nuts for trying to make a profit on a rare poster.

for what reason would someone want to join a group with those attitudes?

has pokerplayr posted here again since he was savaged by the same people who were friendly 3 days earlier? ask yourself why.
Doug Taylor reads this forum from time to time and I believe he has posted, though it goes way back, why would he want to engage you after your post which makes him seem greedy or stupid?

you can talk about these things without pissing on people.. and that would make the forum more useful to some of those lurkers who could become members if they felt they wouldn't be treated like pokerplayr and Doug.

Sean by the way was spot on. I believe Doug already owns another copy of this poster and believes (correctly) that such a poster could be a profitable purchase if he can find a good buyer. Same goes for all the people who will buy 1000 sub-$10 posters at some auctions to list on ebay or 10 $500 on ebay they can list in their retail stores and by the way, it was one of the points you failed to understand when I posted the differences between here and the CGC boards

what YOU perceive as the rightful price of something (to you it's auction prices only) has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of most posters that sell in this hobby which is way greater as an aggregate number than both of the big auctions annual total. Most posters being sold at one auction (by quantity) wind up for resale in other venues, at higher price than the auction achieves



It's wrong to state an opinion on the matter?  It's no personal attack against "Money Man" Doug as you put it.  But this is seen all the time.  A poster is purchased somewhere and then BAM it's listed on a dealer website or eBay for 3 times what it just sold for.  Unless it actually sells for the 300% increase in price how is the recent auction result not as true a reflection of the market and the poster's current worth as possible?  Where is the logic other than hoping for the elusive "good buyer" who will throw cash around without examining the market to any degree?  Dealers/sellers can list a poster at any price they choose.  And yes, of course, on rare occasions that price is realized when "Mr. or Mrs. Good Buyer" walks through the door.  But if it never sells at their arbitrary figure the market has spoken.  

If posters could be routinely purchased with a profit realization of $30,000 six months later do you really think this hobby would be as small and insular as it is?  What kind of market allows for that kind of profit with any degree of certainty or consistency?!  Besides, I am sure if Doug has a heartfelt problem with his Cimarron poster being mentioned on APF he will make it known.  But I suspect someone who is buying pieces of paper for $50,000+ likely has a thick enough skin to handle his pricing practices being examined.  Or even more likely he does not care what is going on on APF and has much better things to do with his time.  I therefore seriously doubt he needs you jumping to his defense when nothing of the sort is called for.

Rich you have one of the foulest and most confrontational mouths in this hobby.  You know it and there are many examples through the years to prove it.  I certainly do not need a lecture from you on the etiquette and finer points of poster forum participation.  That said, I have never had a real problem with you (or anyone else for that matter) and in fact I appreciate most of the contributions you make.  But you have your thoughts and I have mine.  And since that's the case and since we're all about diversity and inclusion we certainly don't need you acting as Constable Rich and waving a gun around at every perceived instance where an opinion is typed that differs from your own.  It's really quite silly to get so up in arms about this ridiculous hobby.

A forum is a place for discussion.  As in the real world, if current members, lurkers and potential members have a problem dealing with views that are disparate to their own well then perhaps they should just stay on the sidelines...  
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Post by: CSM on September 29, 2014, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ari on September 29, 2014, 10:58:49 PM
I just sold a poster for $29.99. I got it from Rich MPB.com for under $2 (literally sold less than 5 minutes ago).

Well that's obviously because it comes wrapped in that very special Ari Richards charm  notworthy.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 29, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Rich you have one of the foulest and most confrontational mouths in this hobby.  You know it and there are many examples through the years to prove it.  I certainly do not need a lecture from you on the etiquette and finer points of poster forum participation.  That said, I have never had a real problem with you (or anyone else for that matter) and in fact I appreciate most of the contributions you make.  But you have your thoughts and I have mine.  And since that's the case and since we're all about diversity and inclusion we certainly don't need you acting as Constable Rich and waving a gun around at every perceived instance where an opinion is typed that differs from your own.  It's really quite silly to get so up in arms about this ridiculous hobby.

A forum is a place for discussion.  As in the real world, if current members, lurkers and potential members have a problem dealing with views that are disparate to their own well then perhaps they should just stay on the sidelines...  

Chris, this comment above is such complete and utter ignorance that because T&H want peace I'm just going to let you be moronic & ignorant.

no one says you can't have an opinion, I certainly didn't. You "wondered" something and I "wondered" something too. since when does your right to have an opinion trump my right to have an opposite opinion? The bigger question is why you can't be an adult about someone else having an opinion opposite of yours, or different from yours or whatever??

I don't have any personal problem with you, but your post quoted above definitely created one.
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Post by: Ari on September 29, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 29, 2014, 11:34:07 PM
Gouger. (http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/poke2.gif)

Ill gouge your eyes out in a moment.

(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2009/10/Horror%20films%20make%20great%20games/ZFE/eye_gouging_ZFE1--article_image.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on September 30, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Ari your stick looks much sharper.  You need to play fair now...
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Post by: Zorba on September 30, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 30, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Ari your stick looks much sharper.  You need to play fair now...

Clearly someone that may or may not be mel is needed to mend this divide and to dull the sticks.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on October 10, 2014, 01:56:33 PM
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/JAMES-BOND-BONS-BAISERS-DE-RUSSIE-Affiche-francaise-originale-du-film-/321538425194?pt=FR_SK_DVD_Collector_Affiches&hash=item4add2f016a
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Post by: erik1925 on October 10, 2014, 02:00:05 PM
Looks to be in really fine condition, too.

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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on October 10, 2014, 02:00:50 PM
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/james-bond-007-AU-SERVICE-SECRET-DE-SA-MAJESTE-9-photos-cinema-lobby-card-/191358704153?pt=FR_SK_dvd_Photo&hash=item2c8dde1a19
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Post by: erik1925 on October 11, 2014, 12:33:24 AM
Now up to $1,350,000.00  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-1931-Original-BELA-LUGOSI-27x41-One-Sheet-TOD-BROWNING-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381018548725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b679a9f5
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2014, 12:35:09 AM
if it isn't selling, why shouldn't it not be selling at a higher price!

 wynk
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Post by: erik1925 on October 11, 2014, 12:39:39 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 11, 2014, 12:35:09 AM
if it isn't selling, why shouldn't it not be selling at a higher price!

 wynk

I'm with you there...

 thumbsup.gif

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Post by: holiday on October 11, 2014, 01:21:25 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 11, 2014, 12:33:24 AM
Now up to $1,350,000.00  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-1931-Original-BELA-LUGOSI-27x41-One-Sheet-TOD-BROWNING-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381018548725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b679a9f5

If I bid on it, I'll get $100 in ebay bucks!

 sm1
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Post by: Undead on October 15, 2014, 11:20:46 PM
Having fun looking through Fleabay tonight and came across this one. It is listed as an original Jaws one sheet in pretty rough shape but looking at it there is no NSS paragraph at the bottom. I know there was a reprint that looks like this that has all the regular Jaws border text in a different alignment than the originals and no paragraph. So my question, a real printing variation I have never seen before, it has been trimmed and the seller did not mention it and said it is 27x41 or a fake aged to look real? Not bashing the seller at all they may or may not know, just want the opinions of those here better versed in Jaws 1 sheets than me.

Jaws one sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=201195718934&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 12:02:01 AM
The film was released in 1949 (The Barkleys of Broadway), with Rogers and Astaire.

Question is.. when was this daybill produced? Is it a later RR? The description doesnt say.

Simple graphics at their finest.  ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-BARKLEYS-OF-BROADWAY-astaire-rogers-dance-ORIGINAL-theatrical-movie-POSTERS-/351196933003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51c4f7eb8b

Title: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on October 16, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
I forget offhand when G came about but certainly later.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 12:28:22 AM
 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on October 16, 2014, 12:36:36 AM
1970 G was introduced,
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2014, 12:59:16 AM
Quote from: Undead on October 15, 2014, 11:20:46 PM
Having fun looking through Fleabay tonight and came across this one. It is listed as an original Jaws one sheet in pretty rough shape but looking at it there is no NSS paragraph at the bottom. I know there was a reprint that looks like this that has all the regular Jaws border text in a different alignment than the originals and no paragraph. So my question, a real printing variation I have never seen before, it has been trimmed and the seller did not mention it and said it is 27x41 or a fake aged to look real? Not bashing the seller at all they may or may not know, just want the opinions of those here better versed in Jaws 1 sheets than me.

Jaws one sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=201195718934&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

it could a "Studio" 1sh ergo no NSS
being previously folded, that would be my guess
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Post by: Undead on October 16, 2014, 09:50:28 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2014, 12:59:16 AM
it could a "Studio" 1sh ergo no NSS
being previously folded, that would be my guess

I did think about that as well but don't think I have ever seen or heard of one for the title. Did they actually make and release a studio one sheet for Jaws?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 16, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
I forget offhand when G came about but certainly later.

Yep the "G" is the key and points to it being much later than 1949
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
Quote from: Ari on October 16, 2014, 12:36:36 AM
1970 G was introduced,

Quote from: CSM on October 16, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
Yep the "G" is the key and points to it being much later than 1949

 thumbsup.gif, Ari and Chris.

Thanks.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 16, 2014, 02:14:57 PM
Quote from: Undead on October 16, 2014, 09:50:28 AM
I did think about that as well but don't think I have ever seen or heard of one for the title. Did they actually make and release a studio one sheet for Jaws?

I don't know offhand and I'm not aware of any lists of studio released one sheets
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 08:32:26 PM
Freaks (1932) LC set offered by Todd F. 

$850K!  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREAKS-1932-TOD-BROWNING-COMPLETE-LOBBY-CARD-SET-MINT-SUPER-RARE-L-K-/151435413542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2342410826



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on October 16, 2014, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 08:32:26 PM
Freaks (1932) LC set offered by Todd F. 

$850K!  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREAKS-1932-TOD-BROWNING-COMPLETE-LOBBY-CARD-SET-MINT-SUPER-RARE-L-K-/151435413542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2342410826


Inflation is a bitch.  Better get them before they jump to a cool mil!
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Post by: Charlie on October 16, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
You could probably remake the entire film for that much...
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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
According to imdb, Freaks cost an estimated $310,607 (in 1931 dollars) and was shot from November 9 - December 16, 1931.

Adjusting for inflation, that would be $4,860,427 today, which is still considered a lower budget film.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2014, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 16, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
According to imdb, Freaks cost an estimated $310,607 (in 1931 dollars) and was shot from November 9 - December 16, 1931.

Adjusting for inflation, that would be $4,860,427 today, which is still considered a lower budget film.



How many films nowadays are shot in a month's time!?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2014, 04:09:05 AM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2014, 12:06:28 AM
How many films nowadays are shot in a month's time!?

in the USA or in Bollywood
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on October 17, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2014, 04:09:05 AM
in the USA or in Bollywood

I meant Hollywood films not the sordid Las Vegas pornos Rich - we know those are shot in a day (if the guys' concentrate really hard that is)  :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on October 17, 2014, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2014, 12:06:28 AM
How many films nowadays are shot in a month's time!?

Chris, i wouldnt be surprised if a good number of smaller budget, indie films were shot in this kind of time frame (+ or -). The don't have the bucks or the luxury for an extended shoot schedule, actors may only be available for very short periods of time, etc.

They go in, get the shot, do a couple takes, and move on.  ;)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2014, 11:17:35 AM
I meant Hollywood films not the sordid Las Vegas pornos Rich - we know those are shot in a day (if the guys' concentrate really hard that is)  :-*

you didn't address Bollywood (India) where they make the most movies in the world today Chris (Las Vegas is not Bollywood)
also, while we still term them "Hollywood movies" realistically, about half of all movies made in the USA are not made in Hollywood (Vegas, New Orleans, Texas and even Wisconsin are more common production locales)

the likelihood that many films are made by the studios in under a month as had been the factory format of the 1920s-40s is fairly low. However Indie movies are almost always made in a short period or the equivalent of "a month of Sundays". Hollywood backed films have so much money riding on them now because few have small millions budgets and most producers don't get involved in low-priced movies anymore.. which does suck
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Post by: CSM on October 17, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Apparently my comment/question is being analyzed far too thoroughly. 

I was, of course, alluding to the fact modern film making by and large is far different than the studio system (and in particular the studio system's far more condensed shooting schedules).  Factories churn out product efficiently.  Although the scope of modern films has certainly changed, the process and timeline to get them made is several levels of magnitude longer than in the "golden age" (again for the most part).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 17, 2014, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Apparently my comment/question is being analyzed far too thoroughly. 

is there something wrong with discussion?

Quote from: CSM on October 17, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
I was, of course, alluding to the fact modern film making by and large is far different than the studio system (and in particular the studio system's far more condensed shooting schedules).  Factories churn out product efficiently.  Although the scope of modern films has certainly changed, the process and timeline to get them made is several levels of magnitude longer than in the "golden age" (again for the most part).

no question. Many people like Robert Rodriguez have created their own studios as hybrids (working with Hollywood, but via their own studios in far-flung locales).
Others like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt have their own Hollywood production companies to handle dealing with the Hollywood studios.
But there is no question that few films are made with an under $10m budget and they are considered Indie films

the statistics today show Bollywood makes about 1000+ film annually, but Hollywood only makes half that number and when you consider that during the 1930s-40s that Hollywood was cranking out some 3000-4000 movies a years under a studio system that was comparable to a factory is indeed marked change from how entertainment is created in America now and an example of how corporate America has changed the business landscape geared to massive profits immediately rather than slow and steady profits over a period of time.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 18, 2014, 02:32:02 PM
A first release Argentine OS for the 1961 Kurosawa film Yojimbo sold on emovie Thurs night for $470.00

I just found another, listed on the bay, with FREE shipping, with a BIN (not a starting auction bid price) of $249.00 / obo.

And if the under bidder is a member of APF, here's another potential opportunity. (And had i known that the under bidder was, in fact, an APF member, I would have PM'd him. This is the next best way, imho). :D

Link here: Yojimbo Argentinean OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=251660172004&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: Mirosae on October 18, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
Great looking poster indeed!
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Post by: erik1925 on October 18, 2014, 03:10:55 PM
I know that the "Bond-ophile" poster collectors have commented and mentioned that this volume, written by Thomas Nixdorf, is a must have.

Again, while perusing, I found another BIN with Free shipping, for a copy of his book, for $49.95

Link: "License To Thrill James Bond Plakate 1962-1997" (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=191380152693&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: CSM on October 19, 2014, 12:07:12 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 18, 2014, 02:32:02 PM
A first release Argentine OS for the 1961 Kurosawa film Yojimbo sold on emovie Thurs night for $470.00

I just found another, listed on the bay, with FREE shipping, with a BIN (not a starting auction bid price) of $249.00 / obo.

And if the under bidder is a member of APF, here's another potential opportunity. (And had i known that the under bidder was, in fact, an APF member, I would have PM'd him. This is the next best way, imho). :D

Link here: Yojimbo Argentinean OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=251660172004&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)


eMovie feeding frenzy strikes again
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Post by: erik1925 on October 19, 2014, 12:17:14 AM
No doubt about it.

 ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on October 19, 2014, 10:08:18 PM
So I'm guessing Heritage's new format is working because I can't seem to win anything anymore.  Everything goes way above my price range.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 19, 2014, 11:25:36 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 18, 2014, 03:10:55 PM
I know that the "Bond-ophile" poster collectors have commented and mentioned that this volume, written by Thomas Nixdorf, is a must have.

Again, while perusing, I found another BIN with Free shipping, for a copy of his book, for $49.95

Link: "License To Thrill James Bond Plakate 1962-1997" (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=191380152693&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)


thomas is always posting rare Bond images to his FB feed
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Post by: erik1925 on October 21, 2014, 07:40:08 PM
Looks like a (the) cool looking Godzilla 3 sheet is back on the scene:  thumbsup.gif

BIN: $5000. / obo

Godzilla US 3 Sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=181565674525&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/godzilla_zps2b0197c9.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 23, 2014, 07:54:42 PM
One for Rosa...  faint2.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3637443

(I know, I know... I shouldnt post this link here, because she might not get it now.....)

 ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on October 23, 2014, 08:35:22 PM
Is this, in fact, a Japanese, country of origin, B1 poster? All the text is in English and i couldnt find an Eirin mark on it anywhere, either. The description says it also measures 29x41 as well as 28 1/2" x 40 1/2". In the very bottom right corner, it looks like it says, "Printed In Japan", though it is a little hard to read.

Tho there is what appears to be very pale, almost translucent, large Japanese calligraphy that is printed over the woman's face.

Thoughts?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3637863

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/japanese_b1_kwaidan_glossy_dupe4_JC09787_L_zpsf78c369c.jpg)


As a comparison, emovie did sell this one, also in the B1 size. Here is that poster:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/japanese_kwaidan_17_zps4ad0539c.jpg)




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Post by: Harry Caul on October 23, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
It's my understanding these were printed in Japan by the studio for use overseas.  So yes, I consider these Japanese B1s.  Maybe think of it as an int'l 1-sheet vs. domestic. 
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Post by: erik1925 on October 23, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
Thanks, Matt.

I did see that the Toho Studio insignia is on the lower center of the poster, as well.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 24, 2014, 12:48:19 AM
Japanese export poster is generally how we reference them..
you would often find them in surrounding countries and places like San Francisco and Los Angeles that had large Japanese communities
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2014, 01:39:16 AM
 cheers

Thanks, too, Rich.
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Post by: Mirosae on October 24, 2014, 04:11:54 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 23, 2014, 07:54:42 PM
One for Rosa...  faint2.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3637443

(I know, I know... I shouldnt post this link here, because she might not get it now.....)

 ;D

Good Lord. She looks positively scary there. Like she had a bit too much plastic surgery.

Good one for Halloween thread. moron1
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2014, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 24, 2014, 04:11:54 AM
Good Lord. She looks positively scary there. Like she had a bit too much plastic surgery.

Good one for Halloween thread. moron1

Indeed, it is...

 devil 2
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
Speaking of Halloween...

Listed just in time!  >:D

Opening bid is $1199.99

Link: The Raven 1948 RR Insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=251689640081&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4MFg1NjY=/z/npIAAOSwF1dUSZOu/$_12.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 26, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
Mark of the Vampire US OS (1935)    bed1

Estimate: $150K-200K

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22196/lot/347/

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mark_zpsd03a81f3.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 26, 2014, 06:28:50 PM
yowzirs
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Post by: erik1925 on October 26, 2014, 06:35:03 PM
According to the auction description, this is the Only copy to ever come up on the market?

Wow.

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Post by: Harry Caul on October 26, 2014, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 26, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
Mark of the Vampire US OS (1935)    bed1

Estimate: $150K-200K

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22196/lot/347/

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mark_zpsd03a81f3.jpg)

Hubba hubba
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Post by: oldposterho on October 27, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
Am I the only one who thinks somebody did a face swap with Bela?  That boy just ain't right...

--Peter
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Post by: CSM on October 27, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Surprised Bonham's scored this over Heritage.  Amazing this has come to market - replacing the daybill as the largest piece to be sold
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 27, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: CSM on October 27, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Surprised Bonham's scored this over Heritage.  Amazing this has come to market - replacing the daybill as the largest piece to be sold

it had been offered on ebay before
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Post by: Mirosae on October 27, 2014, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 27, 2014, 05:13:39 PM
it had been offered on ebay before

Oh...wow   do you know how much it was sold for?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 27, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 27, 2014, 05:32:43 PM
Oh...wow   do you know how much it was sold for?

it did not sell.. another Todd item. I don't recall what his listed price was
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Post by: Mirosae on October 27, 2014, 05:46:27 PM
Thanks Rich, very helpful to know.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 27, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
I saved the pic file from that listing... it looks like it was last listed on ebay in Sept of 2013.  ;)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on October 28, 2014, 05:05:28 AM
Bruce Lee's H.K posters are so undervalued considering the amazing art/rarity......but maybe in the future they'll get real expensive when sources dry up , on the down side it'll get more expensive for collectors. Can't have it both ways........
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Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
This cool & rare insert for Fox's 1935 production of Dante's Inferno went unsold on the bay, back in Sept and is now in HA's Sig auction.  bed1


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DANTE-039-S-INFERNO-1935-INSERT-POSSIBLY-THE-ONLY-ONE-FROM-THE-DENNIS-THOMAS-COLLECT-/261569276542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce6be6a7e&nma=true&si=4cIrX7uWhPHg0Ik6a7W2EwDrQxI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/dante-s-inferno-fox-1935-mp-graded-insert-14-x-36-/a/7101-86360.s#1194611946798

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-3_zpsc7662e44.jpg)  (http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F9%2F4%2F6%2F11946798%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 01, 2014, 02:24:52 PM
Interesting that Gresham was the one trying to sell it.  Wonder if he ended up with most of the collection? 
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Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
And best of luck that Mr JG does well on this, in a few weeks, too!

 thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Mirosae on November 01, 2014, 06:24:04 PM

This litho reproduction is going for pretty penny :o Love the artwork, and the film..
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3648738 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3648738)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2014, 07:11:47 PM
I seem to recall this commercial poster for the Film Classics Library being offered for sale by the Captain Company, in the back of issues of "Famous Monsters of Filmland" magazine. They might have been a few bucks. I need to pull out an issue to double check, as i'm not 100% certain.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3642480

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/special_frankenstein_linen_BM02078_C_zpsa0b2dd2c.jpg)

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Post by: CSM on November 02, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
What is going on with these S2's sometimes...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3648738
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Post by: erik1925 on November 03, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 02, 2014, 11:18:49 PM
What is going on with these S2's sometimes...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3648738

And that one isn't even signed by Fay Wray.  crying

 ;D
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Post by: Undead on November 03, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
One thing that may be having an effect is that there are no more cheap ones. The company that sells them was sold and is no longer in bankruptcy. As a result they have killed the nice cheap prices they had while liquidating and are now charging $2,200.00 for the Kong Three Sheets. At the rate this one is going it will go for more than the printers proof I had. The auction though does not mention the certificate of authenticity that comes with them if that makes a difference to anyone. Glad I found my autographed one when I did.  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on November 03, 2014, 12:18:32 AM
Quote from: Undead on November 03, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
One thing that may be having an effect is that there are no more cheap ones. The company that sells them was sold and is no longer in bankruptcy. As a result they have killed the nice cheap prices they had while liquidating and are now charging $2,200.00 for the Kong Three Sheets. At the rate this one is going it will go for more than the printers proof I had. The auction though does not mention the certificate of authenticity that comes with them. Glad I found my autographed one when I did.  ;D

 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Indeed, mr undead... indeed.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 03, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251695394162
Looks like a dandy
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODUzWDEyODA=/z/GYAAAOSwEppUT2o1/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 04, 2014, 08:27:30 PM
I never knew the fiend, in The Human Monster, was a redhead.  dontknow.gif   ;D

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3648308

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA141030/550/half_human_monster_pbacked_BM01901_T.jpg)
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Post by: Mirosae on November 05, 2014, 01:35:40 PM
and in need of a dentist...  :P
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
it doesn't take much looking at the recent sales of horror sci-fi as someone said to me, you would have to be in complete denial to even suggest that area was not on a serious downswing
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on November 05, 2014, 03:07:04 PM
sorry, there's a double negative in there I am having a hard time deciphering...are you saying that genre is declining?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 05, 2014, 03:07:04 PM
sorry, there's a double negative in there I am having a hard time deciphering...are you saying that genre is declining?

don't know what double neg you mean as I don't see one.

but yes, horror-sci fi is seriously declining and has been on a falling trajectory for 5 years now..
not talking about modern era stuff or rare Star Wars, but clearly the 30s-50s era is falling of seriously and here is the measure: would I have paid more for a large percentage of the material as a dealer for resale in 2008.. and the answer is, oh yes.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 05, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2014, 03:18:06 PM
don't know what double neg you mean as I don't see one.

but yes, horror-sci fi is seriously declining and has been on a falling trajectory for 5 years now..
not talking about modern era stuff or rare Star Wars, but clearly the 30s-50s era is falling of seriously and here is the measure: would I have paid more for a large percentage of the material as a dealer for resale in 2008.. and the answer is, oh yes.

Sorry its been a long day...maybe it can be attributed to a decline in all thing above $100 generally?

My collection is probably worth 10K (retail, I like to think so) but the prospects of buying 2 five thousand dollar posters to me is insane.  I wonder if, growing hobby, more people and more posters, but less big guns out there willing to do such crazy puchases.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 05, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
Sorry its been a long day...maybe it can be attributed to a decline in all thing above $100 generally?

My collection is probably worth 10K (retail, I like to think so) but the prospects of buying 2 five thousand dollar posters to me is insane.  I wonder if, growing hobby, more people and more posters, but less big guns out there willing to do such crazy puchases.

the hobby is not growing. it is at best, stagnant and there are plenty of big guns, but it would be obvious that they have fled from things like Unihorror and 1950s  horror/sci-fi

look at this card that sold on ebay this week
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291280178666?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

yes it was incorrectly described as 9x11, but the size was easily answered in an email.
$800 is unconscionably low, but the problem is that the market in this area is to some degree collapsing.

a realart pressbook for Mummy's Tomb sold for $15 and a Son of Dracula for $15 also

it's not currently an investable area
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Post by: Charlie on November 05, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
the hobby is not growing. it is at best, stagnant and there are plenty of big guns, but it would be obvious that they have fled from things like Unihorror and 1950s  horror/sci-fi

look at this card that sold on ebay this week
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291280178666?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

yes it was incorrectly described as 9x11, but the size was easily answered in an email.
$800 is unconscionably low, but the problem is that the market in this area is to some degree collapsing.

a realart pressbook for Mummy's Tomb sold for $15 and a Son of Dracula for $15 also

it's not currently an investable area

Whew!  Glad I don't collect that stuff. - Wait maybe I should start!
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Post by: oldposterho on November 06, 2014, 10:27:05 AM
I also welcome the flatness and decline in fiddies sci fi.  Maybe one day I'll finally be able to grab a Tobor one sheet or anything from Man from Planet X.  Same thing goes for B Westerns.  Have been trying to add some representation of them for years but everything was luda criss-ly priced.  Still mostly above my cheapskate level but hope springs eternal.

I was wondering if anybody else had noticed, but I didn't want to be the one to bring it up...

--Peter
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 06, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
I think the new generation of collectors cant connect with a lot of these films and look at art, look, displayability (e.g size) and other factors before buying based on having an affiliation to the movie.  That genre is great and a lot of posters are amazing, but not valuable only for the sake of being from "that genre."  I also dont agree with Rich entirely that the hobby is not growing but there are as many big guns as ever - that statement seems contradictory. As the population grows, so does the number of people buying posters, or toasters for that matter.  
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Post by: ddilts399 on November 06, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
The hobby is in decline as far as number of collectors. It is all paper collectibles, not just posters.

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Post by: Simes on November 06, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
So what is taking over the fashion of posters or paper collectibles?  What is attracting the collectors?

I only ask as a collector, collects.  If this person, who exhibits the collecting gene, decides to venture outside the reservation, then that is because something else is attracting his attention.  What is that?  Or, what are they?
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Post by: Undead on November 06, 2014, 05:26:04 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 06, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
So what is taking over the fashion of posters or paper collectibles?  What is attracting the collectors?

I only ask as a collector, collects.  If this person, who exhibits the collecting gene, decides to venture outside the reservation, then that is because something else is attracting his attention.  What is that?  Or, what are they?

Thimbles pretty tiny porcelain thimbles.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 06, 2014, 05:27:33 PM
I have it on good authority that teapots are making a comeback, too.  Doh.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on November 06, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
The hobby is in decline as far as number of collectors. It is all paper collectibles, not just posters.



100% correct
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 06, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
So what is taking over the fashion of posters or paper collectibles?  What is attracting the collectors?

I only ask as a collector, collects.  If this person, who exhibits the collecting gene, decides to venture outside the reservation, then that is because something else is attracting his attention.  What is that?  Or, what are they?

nothing
the new generations aren't collectors as we were when we were their age in part because they aren't interested in history and artistic endeavor is decreasing in our population in favor of the Faux-celebrity trend that works it's way down to school age children and teens as "I have the new iPhone.. I'm the celebrity in class the next 3 days"

they buy expensive sneakers and new tablets instead of when we bought comics & posters & actual record albums.

other than these expensive toys, they want free stuff.. like all the music they don't pay royalties for
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Post by: Mirosae on November 07, 2014, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
nothing
the new generations aren't collectors as we were when we were their age in part because they aren't interested in history and artistic endeavor is decreasing in our population in favor of the Faux-celebrity trend that works it's way down to school age children and teens as "I have the new iPhone.. I'm the celebrity in class the next 3 days"

they buy expensive sneakers and new tablets instead of when we bought comics & posters & actual record albums.

other than these expensive toys, they want free stuff.. like all the music they don't pay royalties for

A very nihilistic view of the new generations Rich...

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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 07, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 07, 2014, 09:28:28 AM
A very nihilistic view of the new generations Rich...
Agree 100%.
Step 1 Take a $400 tablet
Step 2 Put it next to a $400 pile of comic books
Step 3 Evaluate

I think Rich you are comparing apples and oranges. Of course "kids today" are into what they are - the items they seek out are the comic books and hockey cards of the present era.  The only reason you can say you collected historical items is because those items are now old, and so are you.  Some people actually collect vintage sneakers etc (like Nike Air Jordans from the 90s)  Its all relative.

Another thing is that poeple who are not established today simply can't afford the outrageous prices we attribute to our "true historical collections" They also have shit prospects for jobs down the road. Why collect anything that won't help me get ahead? Why pay for my music only to support the 1%?  So, which generation is the most materialistic again?


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Post by: guest4669 on November 07, 2014, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on November 06, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
The hobby is in decline as far as number of collectors. It is all paper collectibles, not just posters.



That sounds like good news for me, as somebody who is new to collecting film posters.

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Post by: lynaron on November 07, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
I agree with Rich about the drop in Uni and 50s horror.  I've picked up three 40s Uni cards, MUMMY'S CURSE TC, FRANK MEETS WOLF and HOUSE OF FRANK monster cards for maybe 40% less than I would have forked out a couple of years ago and a complete CURSE OF THE DEMON set at what I consider a fire sale price.  But, I've never bought a single piece of paper with investment or resell in mind. If I gots the loot, I'll spend it on something I'll enjoy on a daily basis.  Fool and his money, sure why not? So a drop in prices is okay by me.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 05:10:44 PM
Quote from: lynaron on November 07, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
I agree with Rich about the drop in Uni and 50s horror.  I've picked up three 40s Uni cards, MUMMY'S CURSE TC, FRANK MEETS WOLF and HOUSE OF FRANK monster cards for maybe 40% less than I would have forked out a couple of years ago and a complete CURSE OF THE DEMON set at what I consider a fire sale price.  But, I've never bought a single piece of paper with investment or resell in mind. If I gots the loot, I'll spend it on something I'll enjoy on a daily basis.  Fool and his money, sure why not? So a drop in prices is okay by me.

and what you would have paid 2 years ago was less than what they would have sold for 2 years earlier
but it isn't just Unihorror

it goes throughout the hobby from old to modern and in every genre. I only mentioned horror/sci-fi because we just saw a load sell and the results on 90% or more was indicative of considerable devaluation of the material.
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Post by: Simes on November 07, 2014, 08:07:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2014, 05:54:45 PM
nothing
the new generations aren't collectors as we were when we were their age in part because they aren't interested in history and artistic endeavor is decreasing in our population in favor of the Faux-celebrity trend that works it's way down to school age children and teens as "I have the new iPhone.. I'm the celebrity in class the next 3 days"

they buy expensive sneakers and new tablets instead of when we bought comics & posters & actual record albums.

other than these expensive toys, they want free stuff.. like all the music they don't pay royalties for

Hmm.  Ok, you grabbed my attention with this comment.  But not in a positive way.  It does exhibit the most sweeping of misplaced generalisations.

If one accepts that a certain percentage of the population 'collects', and that the population, worldwide, increases, then that would assume the number of collectors is increasing.  So, if they are understood to Not be looking at posters (in the most intra niche forms of assessment possible), then this would still suggest the collectors are collecting elsewhere.

A person who buys the latest in something (sneakers / tablets) is so totally not the same person who collects genres, sets, artefacts, history, art.  He may do it as well as, but not instead of.  So I think my question still stands.  If not posters, then what?

My mother is hugely into antiques, but she accepts that what she bought 20 years ago will fetch only a fraction of what she bought it for.  She knows and understands that there is an element of fashion, even amongst the old and used.  But she notes the sway in her particular field.  I am not sure that what the dealers are experiencing is anything other than an economic decline the world over for superfluous spending.

Happy to be proved wrong, but not with 'early adopters' arguments.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
the largest paper hobby there is, is comic books
the population there is decreasing fast and the best example there is of that is that 20 years ago there were almost 15,000 comic stores in America and now there are est 1/10 that number.
Readership of new comics is the lowest in comics history and 1/4 the size of comics readership of 20 years ago.

during WW2, Walt Disney's Comics and Stories sold 4 million copies a month. That's one comic title, one issue. If you add up all the comics by all publishers this month, they are only est 5million copies for 450+/- titles (and that does count all the small published comics that only get 1500 copies. if we cut out 3rd world publishers, you are well below 4 million comics).. oh.. every month for the past 48 months recorded, comics readership has declined. Last month was a 4% decline for September year over year

conventions are decreasing, prices are falling.. exactly why do yu think these numbers are headed in that direction?
this is hardly a situation unique to comics or posters. Every dealer I know in every collectible field says the same thing.
baseball cards
toys
magazine collectors
pulp magazine collectors
Political button collectors
postcard collectors

oh.. even video game collectors and you would think this area would be increasing

as to available cash for collectibles.
Heritage makes more money every year. Sotheby's, Christie's.. The big auction houses are doing great!
so is Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills

Wal Mart.. not so much. it doesn't take much to understand why - the 1% gets and keeps the money. They are the people driving the profitable markets, but they are still only buying certain stuff and last week, it certainly wasn't Unihorror or 1950s horror/sci-fi!

back to comics, let me explain what's going on there
the things that the 1% buy.. increasing. but what they buy is less than 1% of the market by quantity. There are only so many Frank Miller or Jack Kirby pages available
the rest of the market is retreating. Price Guide means nothing as 90% of what is in there is selling well below guide except in the peak grades

to examine the market (whatever market), you have to disassociate yourself from emotion and look at it from a purely economic position.
My statement that hobbying for movie posters or comics or baseball or whatever is a spot-on analysis of the market. Rosy glasses be damned
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Post by: Simes on November 07, 2014, 08:44:52 PM
Thanks for the response fella.  Lots of information in there to consider.

I must admit to being completely out of my depth on almost all of what you cite.  I am not a dealer so I bow to your knowledge.  However, talking about all the other industries outside of cinema posters is a bit tough to consume.

Surely the number of comic stores is declining, as is almost every other type of store for New stuff.  This sort of product will no doubt be consumed and sold almost entirely online.  I believe what might be discussed here is the antique poster.  Not the latest in Harry Potter or whatever other teenybop movie produces the latest in headshot poster design.

A long term collector may or may not look for the above type of poster, but the backbone of his collecting will be the art / antique / historical - which for the most part is what this forum is all about.

So, again, if the collectors of things heritage are not collecting posters, then their collecting habits must be sated elsewhere - economic conditions notwithstanding.  So, Where?  (if anywhere)

My argument is based on the character of a collector.  There is just something about this character that will not stop collecting.  If something dies in one respect, it will flare up in another.  Posters to stamps to keyrings to teapots.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
there will always be collectors of some sort, but collecting starts with nostalgia and combines with history
when I was a kid, I knew when the civil war was and who George Washington was.
when I was a kid in the 1960s, I could tell you about comic strips from 1910.
But I could also tell you all about Greek and Roman mythology, what WW2 was about and why it was 2
etc
etc

but here, I'll throw it into someone else's court.. Please.. tell us what young folks "collect" today
I'd like to know

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Post by: Zorba on November 07, 2014, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
collecting starts with nostalgia and combines with history



Yes it does.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 10:30:11 PM
I meant to include this video with my post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E
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Post by: Neo on November 07, 2014, 11:24:10 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 10:30:11 PM
I meant to include this video with my post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E

Zoinks.  faint2.gif
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Post by: CSM on November 07, 2014, 11:24:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2014, 09:07:55 PM


but here, I'll throw it into someone else's court.. Please.. tell us what young folks "collect" today
I'd like to know



STDs
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Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2014, 11:44:56 PM
Studs are popular... or so i've been told.
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Post by: Zorba on November 07, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on November 07, 2014, 11:24:10 PM
Zoinks.  faint2.gif

 ;D

Need more under 30s voting for sure! 
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 12:41:10 AM
This is pretty darn cool... what the seller describes as a possible French herald, which measures 10.5 x 14.5 inches when folded... and 21x 21.8 inches when unfolded-- and which has a poster-like image on the inside, for Dracula, released in France, in January 1932. I dont recall seeing other material from France, from the first release. And i think the fold out poster image is  bed1

Link: French Dracula Herald or Advert Booklet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=251709375895&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

BIN: $8500.00 / OBO

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Post by: CSM on November 08, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
Hmmm...the rather bland colours might suggest it is from the '38 re-release?  Just guessing...

Still very nice
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 08, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
French pressbook and could very well be first release

great item
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 12:56:54 AM
Quote from: CSM on November 08, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
Hmmm...the rather bland colours might suggest it is from the '38 re-release?  Just guessing...

Still very nice

I wonder... I'd love to know for sure.  

The "Carl Laemmle presente" at the top made me think it might be a first release.  ;)
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Post by: Starling on November 08, 2014, 02:30:46 AM
Wow that is a wonderful piece!

Great find Jeff:)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 08, 2014, 03:47:06 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 12:56:54 AM
I wonder... I'd love to know for sure.  

The "Carl Laemmle presente" at the top made me think it might be a first release.  ;)

I believe it is first release, but someone else would have to chime in for certainty
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Post by: Mirosae on November 08, 2014, 04:12:41 AM
Love the spider net..fabulous paper!
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Post by: paul waines on November 08, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Tis a first release, I've been watching it for a while now, but he still hasn't dropped it into my price range.... :-\
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Post by: Mirosae on November 08, 2014, 04:33:19 AM
Put an offer Paul...You never know...!
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Post by: paul waines on November 08, 2014, 04:38:14 AM
I am that cheeky, but I've just committed to something else.... 8)
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Post by: Mirosae on November 08, 2014, 04:49:25 AM
Quote from: paul waines on November 08, 2014, 04:38:14 AM
I am that cheeky, but I've just committed to something else.... 8)

That one is mine! EN GARDE!

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Post by: paul waines on November 08, 2014, 04:51:44 AM
didn't know you knew him....
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Post by: brude on November 08, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 12:41:10 AM

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/9diwo8sy_zps44229a53.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/pqar7hov_zps6b771942.jpg)

Very cool piece of art but it looks like some knucklehead touched up the fold with a felt tip.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 07:57:25 PM
I think that's just a shadow on the deeper fold.

Had it been touched up with a felt tip marker, im thinking there would have some bleed thru on the back and be visible on the lime green.
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Post by: jedgerley on November 08, 2014, 08:15:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 07:57:25 PM
I think that's just a shadow on the deeper fold.

Had it been touched up with a felt tip marker, im thinking there would have some bleed thru on the back and be visible on the lime green.

looks like a marker to me as well....notice when the crease line is in the green of drac's shirt and the vertical green background/bar you can see the white crease.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 08, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
as Jeff points out, if it was marker, there would be bleed through
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 08:35:32 PM
If you look at the light green side, with all the fine text, it shows no black bleed thru at all, along that fold.

And if marker was used, and even if it didn't bleed consistently along the entire fold, I would think there would be spots that would show this. That green crease looks clean and marker ink-free, to me.  :)
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Post by: jedgerley on November 08, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 08:35:32 PM
If you look at the light green side, with all the fine text, it shows no black bleed thru at all, along that fold.

And if marker was used, and even if it didn't bleed consistently along the entire fold, I would think there would be spots that would show this. That green crease looks clean and marker ink-free, to me.  :)

With a light touch and the right marker or not a marker but something else it wont bleed? Just askin, and yes the green looks marker free thats is my point. Anyways I simply asked them and Ill post their response.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Screenshot%202014-11-08%2020.54.59.png)
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Post by: CSM on November 08, 2014, 11:04:37 PM
Best to just buy it and find out afterwards ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 08, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
With a light touch and the right marker or not a marker but something else it wont bleed? Just askin, and yes the green looks marker free thats is my point. Anyways I simply asked them and Ill post their response.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Screenshot%202014-11-08%2020.54.59.png)

Great minds, Jason.

I did the same thing.  ;)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/verso_zps44fe10b6.jpg)
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Post by: brude on November 09, 2014, 05:17:00 AM
You're right about the bleed-through, so it wasn't a felt tip.
But, it has been touched up.
Knock 8k off the price.
 wynk
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Post by: paul waines on November 09, 2014, 05:21:10 AM
It's definitely been touched up, most likely with water colour pencils...


8K off  :o , I'll take it..
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Post by: jedgerley on November 09, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 11:06:49 PM
Great minds, Jason.

I did the same thing.  ;)
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/verso_zps44fe10b6.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Screenshot%202014-11-08%2020.54.59.png)

Seller responded as following:

"Dear J

Hi,
You are right. I had never really noticed, but the pictures somewhat suggest this- though the flash used for the pictures might as well simply have over-pronounced the crinkled surface in the foldline...
I have to ask for your patience on this, as I will not be home until Friday and would like to check on this myself.
Sorry about that and many thanks for your remark/question!
Best,

- addsense"

So we shall find out Friday or Saturdayish
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Post by: monocle on November 10, 2014, 11:22:00 AM
I seem to have arrived rather late to the discussion on collecting trends, dropping prices and the youth of today but here goes...

If you look at the general field of 'antiques' then there's little doubt that the movement of prices is cyclical. To give a specific example, in recent years the prices of musical boxes, davenports and many other pieces of furniture have dropped considerably. The very finest pieces survived the fall rather better than most but whether the nice but more ordinary examples might recover the value of their old glory days - who knows? Curiously it was the downturn in the Japanese economy that dented musical box prices. Prior to that happening a few years back, dealers from Japan would come to Europe and systematically clear specialist shops of stock...and then they suddenly they stopped coming and the prices collapsed. Victorian oil paintings however went from being despised in the 60s and 70s to gold dust status, with the best examples jumping from hundreds or thousands to hundreds of thousands...nay, millions!

I think that being the finest and rarest does help future proof to a degree, unless of course value has been wildly inflated by a fashion rush alone. I keep expecting the modern art market to collapse but the emperor's new clothes syndrome doesn't seem to have crumbled yet. And of course with the millions flowing into modern art, certain pieces/artists have arguably moved away from being objets d'art into being investments and currency. And if people with power and influence own pieces they have the power and influence to ensure others agree with the value they place on these items too. They keep it expensive and aspirational for certain types of collector with the result that ownership gives you a certain 'status'. But twas ever thus!

On the poster owning front I can only assume that there are gold standard pieces that are also unlikely to wane? Like original posters of iconic films like Metropolis or King Kong I assume? (I don't collect movie posters remember!) Elsewhere in the poster collecting field things might be slightly different. Popular culture obviously plays a role but certain poster artists have earned the respect of the art world in general and have transcended popular culture to become 'art' thus helping to future proof them. I'm thinking of icons like Toulouse Lautrec and Alphones Mucha here.

Thinking of the younger generation, I have two sons aged 21 and 23. I've tried to introduce them to a broad spectrum of the arts and of course that includes classic films. But you wouldn't believe the amount of persuasion in takes to get over that initial hurdle of 'It's in black and white!'. In spite of this, 'Citizen Kane' and "The Third man' went down very well indeed. Now when I was growing up there were two or three channels that everybody watched in the UK. Television was a shared experience that brought you into contact with things that you might not have been aware of or sought out. This included loads of old films - films which I grew to admire and have affection for. This experience developed interest and must have made collectors. What was there to own connected with a film back then? DVDs. toys, t-shirts? Well I assume not. The only thing you might seek out was probably the poster and publicity items; an experience which doubtless started the collecting bug for many here today.

Nowadays children can choose from a variety of different audio visual sources and - if they wish to - simply consume more of the same single-minded thing they already love. They won't easily stumble across old black and white films, or indeed anything that isn't more readily here and now. To my mind they are less inclined to look back and more likely to look forward to new things/movies appearing on the horizon. My eldest loves manga and anime and he spends hundreds on Japanese figures and collectibles. All items that have been designed to sell and re-promote the films/comics they come from but thanks to my evil involvement he'll also watch movies from the 30s, 40s, 50s as well as Laurel and Hardy, the Marx Brothers and the great classics - and he likes those too. The battle is not yet lost - at least not in this household!
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Post by: Mirosae on November 10, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
Yes, our assistant is a 23 year old, and I asked him what he thought of the Godfather. He looked confused and said Godfather? is that an old black and white film?

 :-X

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Post by: Neo on November 10, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
Monocle, your comments here are very interesting and informative, and you seem like a true gentleman.

 cheers



Quote from: Mirosae on November 10, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
Yes, our assistant is a 23 year old, and I asked him what he thought of the Godfather. He looked confused and said Godfather? is that an old black and white film?

 :-X



Aye aye aye.   :o  

When I went to see Spartacus (1960) in the theater a few months ago, the guy in the box office had never heard of the film.
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Post by: monocle on November 10, 2014, 03:25:26 PM
That's very kind of you Neo. I am a bit of a fossil. In fact when I was at university in the 70s my fellow students were so taken by old fashioned manners that they used to call me 'Steed'. 'Er, that's Patrick Macnee in 'The Avengers', not the horse...
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Post by: jayn_j on November 10, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
I was a scout leader a few years ago and taught a cinematography badge class.  I brought a copy of The Maltese Falcon in order to demonstrate noir lighting techniques.  You'd have thought I asked them to poke their eyes out with hot irons.
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Post by: Simes on November 10, 2014, 03:39:16 PM
I must say it is quite refreshing to have a slightly analogical take on the old theme through Monocle's points.

His post seems to gel with with what has been posited by other movie poster posts (too many posts?), but with the spin being on all things antiques, and how that may reflect on what is more largely discussed on this forum.

All very interesting and well put too.

As far as his offspring are concerned, regarding this movie arena, while in some respects it might appear to be a rear guard battle to infuse the historical in spite of the modern, at least in time, I hope, they see that a balance has been afforded them and they will benefit at least in terms of broader ranges of understanding and conversation.

Cheers.
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Post by: Simes on November 10, 2014, 03:43:05 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 10, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
I was a scout leader a few years ago and taught a cinematography badge class.  I brought a copy of The Maltese Falcon in order to demonstrate noir lighting techniques.  You'd have thought I asked them to poke their eyes out with hot irons.

Oh dear.  This is hilarious.

Similarly, or not, I was talking about WWII with some people who were not a million years from my age (48), maybe a decade younger, and they had no idea what Colditz was, or its import.  And this is the stuff of Boys Own heroic stories, not the politics of the time.  That said, I daresay I would be crumpled by what was going on in the music charts right now, even if the music charts still exist as an entity!  'Nuff said perhaps.
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Post by: monocle on November 10, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
My children were in the scouts. Are you quite sure there wasn't a badge specifically awarded for poking peoples eyes out with hot irons? There seemed to be a badge for everything else.

Ought we to move this discussion to a forum post of it's own? Perhaps 'Opening the eyes of the next generation' would be a possible title or has that got to many hot poker connotations? Anyway, this probably isn't a good time to admit that I've never seen 'The Godfather' either. Of course I'm aware of it but I have a problem with films that are too grimly or credibly violent. I'll lap up film noir and even enjoy Dirty Harry wreaking revenge on the villains but when it gets too near the knuckle or turns sadistic, I'm off!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 10, 2014, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 10, 2014, 03:43:05 PM
I daresay I would be crumpled by what was going on in the music charts right now, even if the music charts still exist as an entity! 

yep..the music biz has been decimated by "free" downloads
but so has everything else media.
Music though is in a class of it's own when it comes to theft
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Post by: Mirosae on November 10, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on November 10, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
Monocle, your comments here are very interesting and informative, and you seem like a true gentleman.

 cheers



Aye aye aye.   :o  

When I went to see Spartacus (1960) in the theater a few months ago, the guy in the box office had never heard of the film.

Agree totally first sentence. Monocle thanks for giving us good food for thought.

On the second  Spartacus is such a classic. ..!!!

Some people.. girly2.gif
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Post by: brude on November 10, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: monocle on November 10, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
My children were in the scouts. Are you quite sure there wasn't a badge specifically awarded for poking peoples eyes out with hot irons? There seemed to be a badge for everything else.

Ought we to move this discussion to a forum post of it's own? Perhaps 'Opening the eyes of the next generation' would be a possible title or has that got to many hot poker connotations? Anyway, this probably isn't a good time to admit that I've never seen 'The Godfather' either. Of course I'm aware of it but I have a problem with films that are too grimly or credibly violent. I'll lap up film noir and even enjoy Dirty Harry wreaking revenge on the villains but when it gets too near the knuckle or turns sadistic, I'm off!

Sounds to me like you should start such a thread.
Don't be shy.
 wynk
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 10, 2014, 09:47:59 PM
Spartacus is KubricK baby!

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2Q_FyRAGRsA/TUmzcpzr8jI/AAAAAAAACic/nHHIEofbNLk/s800/danish_spartacus_JM01515_L.jpg?gl=US)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 11, 2014, 12:55:41 AM
Is that yours? Really nice!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 11, 2014, 01:12:40 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 11, 2014, 12:55:41 AM
Is that yours? Really nice!

All mine!  :D

Pretty common a Danish poster on emovie for a stretch.

I still like it anyway.  8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 11, 2014, 01:14:50 AM
Good legs. I'll take one too  >:D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Zorba on November 11, 2014, 01:21:04 AM
Meet me in Xania...  8)
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Post by: Mirosae on November 11, 2014, 03:31:31 AM
Perfect :)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
I came across this HS being sold as a BIN, on the bay, for the 1933 Sherlock Holmes film, A Study in Scarlet.

The seller is asking $15,000 or best offer.

The seller states that this might be an only known copy. Is other material from this film also as rare and pricey?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-STUDY-IN-SCARLET-Sherlock-Holmes-Anna-May-Wong-Conan-Doyle-Orig-Poster-1933-/151472139919?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2344716e8f

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SIC_zps40ed75ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 11, 2014, 05:52:31 PM
rare poster
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Post by: jedgerley on November 11, 2014, 09:44:37 PM
creases and toe prints included in every purchase:
ebay seller:familycatn
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Photo%20Nov%2008%2C%2010%2027%2032%20PM.png)(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Photo%20Nov%2008%2C%2010%2028%2045%20PM.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Photo%20Nov%2011%2C%209%2046%2040%20PM.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
Nothing like "miss blue toes" totally destroying the bottom edge corners of that V FOR VENDETTA poster...  crying

What a buffoon!   :P

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 11, 2014, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
Nothing like "miss blue toes" totally destroying the bottom edge corners of that V FOR VENDETTA poster...  crying

What a buffoon!   :P



it has pinholes too :/ and its a repro
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 11, 2014, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
"miss blue toes"


You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.  Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.   

(http://manilovefilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/6052410042_782fd20f6f.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 11, 2014, 11:01:26 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
Nothing like "miss blue toes" totally destroying the bottom edge corners of that V FOR VENDETTA poster...  crying

What a buffoon!   :P



Those look like Mr. Blue toes' feet...yuck
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 11, 2014, 11:01:26 PM
Those look like Mr. Blue toes' feet...yuck

I was afraid to fathom the thought & say it, Chris... believe me....

 puke
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2014, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 11, 2014, 10:04:54 PM

You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me. There are ways, Dude.  Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.   

(http://manilovefilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/6052410042_782fd20f6f.jpg)

Sounds good to me.

Do i get a choice of colors?   ;D
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Post by: wonka on November 13, 2014, 01:04:57 PM
Best part about those toe pics is how they act like they couldn't find anything else at random to hold the poster down, in what is clearly a complete train wreck of a messy room.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
And it looks like they have and play Rummikub!

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 14, 2014, 12:25:09 AM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CLOCKWORK-ORANGE-Very-Rare-Original-Vintage-1970s-Advance-OS-Movie-Poster-/321554449346?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item4ade2383c2

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/3wsAAMXQyY1TUJID/$_57.JPG)

Description & Condition: You are bidding on a 1971 rare and hard-to-find rolled Australian advance one-sheet poster with a light scratch lower left-hand-side border edge and a couple of minor scuffs along the bottom edge (see photos of actual poster) but otherwise in fine to very fine condition. This is the very rare advance sheet with the nude girls to the right side of Malcolm McDowell’s head. The regular advance sheet had those nude images blacked out. This is not a reproduction or reprint poster, it is a genuine original vintage 1971 Australian theatre release colour one-sheet poster distributed by Warner Brothers and dated ©1971 bottom right corner of the poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 14, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
Is it what it purports to be Ari?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 14, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
I don't know what it is but I can't see it being that vintage and if so not Aussie and we'll just looks like a commercial poster to me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 14, 2014, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 14, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
I don't know what it is but I can't see it being that vintage and if so not Aussie and well just looks like a commercial poster to me.

Seems spot on there, Ari.  thumbup

 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 14, 2014, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 14, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
I don't know what it is but I can't see it being that vintage and if so not Aussie and we'll just looks like a commercial poster to me.

Smarty pants
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 15, 2014, 01:43:02 AM
A very similar design was released over here last year...same kind of paper too looking at it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 12:33:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 11:06:49 PM
Great minds, Jason.

I did the same thing.  ;)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Screenshot%202014-11-08%2020.54.59.png)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/verso_zps44fe10b6.jpg)



So I got a reply from the Dracula seller. He wrote:

"Hi Jeff.

Thanks so much for your patience!

After looking very closely at the fold line on the front, I would say that it has been touched up. By shining very bright light onto it, you see a difference in the reflections, with the touched up line being a little dull- but a pretty subtle difference under normal light! I would thereof speculate that this must have been done years ago, with the paper developing some patina over it?! Color used seems to have spread out a bit on the front- probably a soluble colorant-, but absolutely no bleeding through in the lower left quadrant of the folded out poster to be found verso.
But still, a very unusual piece of Dracula movie memorabilia with the geometric alien-like green Dracula on the inside, really reminding me more of Nosferatu, than the Dracula "without teeth" in this movie...
Let me know, if I can be of any additional help!"


So it sounds like it had some kind of touch up, maybe  number of years, ago. And if water soluble, like the seller speculates, then not a totally bad thing, as any restorer might also have touched up that fold line, had there been ink breaks or small holes or tears. The good thing too, no bleed thru to the verso, so that's good. That re-touching might also be able to be removed, if desired, too.

And that -- is the rest of the story.  :)

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Post by: jedgerley on November 15, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 12:33:38 PM


So I got a reply from the Dracula seller. He wrote:

"Hi Jeff.

Thanks so much for your patience!

After looking very closely at the fold line on the front, I would say that it has been touched up. By shining very bright light onto it, you see a difference in the reflections, with the touched up line being a little dull- but a pretty subtle difference under normal light! I would thereof speculate that this must have been done years ago, with the paper developing some patina over it?! Color used seems to have spread out a bit on the front- probably a soluble colorant-, but absolutely no bleeding through in the lower left quadrant of the folded out poster to be found verso.
But still, a very unusual piece of Dracula movie memorabilia with the geometric alien-like green Dracula on the inside, really reminding me more of Nosferatu, than the Dracula "without teeth" in this movie...
Let me know, if I can be of any additional help!"


So it sounds like it had some kind of touch up, maybe  number of years, ago. And if water soluble, like the seller speculates, then not a totally bad thing, as any restorer might also have touched up that fold line, had there been ink breaks or small holes or tears. The good thing too, no bleed thru to the verso, so that's good. That re-touching might also be able to be removed, if desired, too.

And that -- is the rest of the story.  :)



thanks Paul Harvey, thats what i thought too :) waiting for my copy pasted response from him as well :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 15, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
thanks Paul Harvey, thats what i thought too :) waiting for my copy pasted response from him as well :)

You got it!

 thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 01:09:23 PM
This image always worked SO well for me, as a RR poster.  thumbsup.gif

BIN: $1250.00

Link: White Zombie 1938 RR OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=150759120627&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/WZ_zps56b0e75b.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: monocle on November 15, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
...and I would imagine that an authentic  'Zombie Grip' tutorial would get ten times that!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 15, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 14, 2014, 12:25:09 AM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CLOCKWORK-ORANGE-Very-Rare-Original-Vintage-1970s-Advance-OS-Movie-Poster-/321554449346?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item4ade2383c2

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/3wsAAMXQyY1TUJID/$_57.JPG)

Description & Condition: You are bidding on a 1971 rare and hard-to-find rolled Australian advance one-sheet poster with a light scratch lower left-hand-side border edge and a couple of minor scuffs along the bottom edge (see photos of actual poster) but otherwise in fine to very fine condition. This is the very rare advance sheet with the nude girls to the right side of Malcolm McDowell’s head. The regular advance sheet had those nude images blacked out. This is not a reproduction or reprint poster, it is a genuine original vintage 1971 Australian theatre release colour one-sheet poster distributed by Warner Brothers and dated ©1971 bottom right corner of the poster.

Its available on Amazon, 27x39.  I message the seller to double check the measurements of his poster, which he states as 27x40

http://www.amazon.com/Kubricks-Clockwork-Orange-Style-Poster/dp/B00NP1EZIE/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1416076461&sr=8-19&keywords=clockwork+orange+poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 15, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 01:09:23 PM
This image always worked SO well for me, as a RR poster.  thumbsup.gif

BIN: $1250.00

Link: White Zombie 1938 RR OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=150759120627&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/WZ_zps56b0e75b.jpg)

This has been for sale for what seems like forever (had to finally delete it from the watch list because I was starting to fall victim to the zombie eyes)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 15, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
This has been for sale for what seems like forever (had to finally delete it from the watch list because I was starting to fall victim to the zombie eyes)

the eyes that hypnotize......
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 16, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 15, 2014, 12:33:38 PM


So I got a reply from the Dracula seller. He wrote:

"Hi Jeff.

Thanks so much for your patience!

After looking very closely at the fold line on the front, I would say that it has been touched up. By shining very bright light onto it, you see a difference in the reflections, with the touched up line being a little dull- but a pretty subtle difference under normal light! I would thereof speculate that this must have been done years ago, with the paper developing some patina over it?! Color used seems to have spread out a bit on the front- probably a soluble colorant-, but absolutely no bleeding through in the lower left quadrant of the folded out poster to be found verso.
But still, a very unusual piece of Dracula movie memorabilia with the geometric alien-like green Dracula on the inside, really reminding me more of Nosferatu, than the Dracula "without teeth" in this movie...
Let me know, if I can be of any additional help!"


So it sounds like it had some kind of touch up, maybe  number of years, ago. And if water soluble, like the seller speculates, then not a totally bad thing, as any restorer might also have touched up that fold line, had there been ink breaks or small holes or tears. The good thing too, no bleed thru to the verso, so that's good. That re-touching might also be able to be removed, if desired, too.

And that -- is the rest of the story.  :)



Not quite the rest.. the seller followed up with one last comment, as he checked the solubility of the black that was used to touch the fold up. He wrote:

"The colour seems to come off with water- I tried to carefully dab it off, in one tiny area, with a slightly wetted, white cloth and it tainted black. Same procedure applied to a different black spot situated off the fold line: no marking off to be observed.

I guess that somebody with a hand for paper restoration could get it back into its original condition without going through too much trouble."

So it sounds like a water color pencil or wash of some kind was used to touch up that crease. Good to know, on the chance any new owner might want that touch up removed.  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 17, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
A BIN of $5867 USD and change.... with a good number of tape residue stains along the border, all the way around.

Link: 1964 Thunderball Quad (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=400807633183&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/THUNDERBALL_zps2ee4007a.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 20, 2014, 11:56:50 AM
This Thunderball quad is actually pretty great. The tape doesn't scare me away at all, but it is overpriced. Next to no paper loss and vivid/saturated colors are all there...the biggies.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 12:00:09 PM
Someone must be after some mark up, as I was offered that Thunderball Quad last year for £300....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 20, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 12:00:09 PM
Someone must be after some mark up, as I was offered that Thunderball Quad last year for £300....

Table scraps -> Matt  moron1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
I'm sure I offered it you Matt.

Check you emails from last year...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 20, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
I'm sure I offered it you Matt.

Check you emails from last year...

(http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/look---.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 20, 2014, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
I'm sure I offered it you Matt.

Check you emails from last year...

All I could find was a brief mention during our discussion of the UK Son of Frank... these two comments were buried in large emails:

Oct. 11th 2012 Paul: If you are still looking for Connery Bond stuff, I may have a Thunderball, and You only live twice style C, lead....?
Oct. 11th 2012 Matt: And definitely let me know about the Bond quads... I'm missing nearly all of the Connerys.

As far as I can see, you never followed up after that.  Don't worry, I forgive you... you just owe me 300 GBP Thunderball  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 20, 2014, 01:39:54 PM
With tape is fine of course!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 01:45:44 PM
Must apologise Matt, I thought you had said no to it.... :-\

I'll keep a look out.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 20, 2014, 01:53:21 PM
Paul - how much you charging for your poster locating services there days?  I will need it in CAN $ (since the currency is nearly worthless internationally these days)  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
I'm really cheap Chris, my price is £free...    :D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 20, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
I'm really cheap Chris, my price is £free...    :D



Great!  I will ask another question then - when you moving to Australia?   ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Don't need to I have relations out there.... ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 20, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Don't need to I have relations out there.... ;)

Alright sign me up for the Gold level Waines service then please!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 02:02:26 PM
You should send me a list..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on November 21, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
This seller has several rolls of posters, including rolls of 50 one sheets, and rolls of 100, 200, and 500 mini posters.

Really shows how many posters are out there for some newer titles.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0)

Look at how many he/she has sold recently.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 21, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
OMG
you just outed auctions!?!?!
will anyone ever stop outing auctions!?@!#?!


Quote from: NeoLoco on November 21, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
This seller has several rolls of posters, including rolls of 50 one sheets, and rolls of 100, 200, and 500 mini posters.

Really shows how many posters are out there for some newer titles.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0)

Look at how many he/she has sold recently.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)
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Post by: CSM on November 21, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: paul waines on November 20, 2014, 02:02:26 PM
You should send me a list..

Noir daybills!!  Find 'em (please  :-* )
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 21, 2014, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: NeoLoco on November 21, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
This seller has several rolls of posters, including rolls of 50 one sheets, and rolls of 100, 200, and 500 mini posters.

Really shows how many posters are out there for some newer titles.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=poster&_ssn=movieheaven1968&hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xposter+lot&_nkw=poster+lot&_sacat=0)

Look at how many he/she has sold recently.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/movieheaven1968/m.html?hash=item51c714179b&item=351232333723&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_from=R40|R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=poster+lot&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)

I would think this is probably more the norm for most newer releases with mid-larger marketing budgets. Boxes of these are just all over the place.

Amazing to see the pics, tho, too.

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Post by: originalcinemaposters on November 23, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
am I missing somethinghere!?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROCKY-2-original-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-very-rare-Sylvster-Stallone-/321595573525?hash=item4ae0970515 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROCKY-2-original-MOVIE-POSTER-1979-very-rare-Sylvster-Stallone-/321595573525?hash=item4ae0970515)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 23, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
I dont think you are missing anything there...

I mean... say WHA!!!

 :o

Someone should offer him $57.00 USD and see if he bites.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on November 23, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
$57 is way too much, he would be an idiot not to take it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 23, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: Undead on November 23, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
$57 is way too much, he would be an idiot not to take it.

Agreed lol. More like $5+$7=$12.     $12 would be overpaying in that condition.

Anyways wow.


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 23, 2014, 01:25:22 PM
"Yo, Adrian!!  ;D
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 23, 2014, 08:11:01 PM
That seller has opened and closed several ebay accounts...still remains steadfast to that floor tile for pics.

He's borderline jackass level too...beyond shady. Trust me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 23, 2014, 08:16:06 PM
This poster sold today...just a short time ago, this afternoon.

For a Best Offer of $2000.00!!!  faint2.gif

I feel for the buyer, if this is a legit transaction.  Doh.gif


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/rocky_zps42319982.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 23, 2014, 08:25:55 PM
Doubt it. He did this with his FRWL sixer a few times with the 'seller backed out' BS.

Bet a 'new' copy surfaces mysteriously.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 01:09:32 AM
One of the many posters going up for auction tomorrow in NYC, at Bonhams... is the one known copy of the US OS for Mark of the Vampire (1935). The estimate is $150,000-200,000

Here are a couple snaps I took, when the preview was here in LA. It was a treat to see it in person!  thumbsup.gif

Sorry for the reflection on the one shot.. the poster had a clear, shrink wrap cover over it. Those lights were on the case housing the Lion costume from OZ.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03316_zpsb4bcf06a.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03353_zpsa61c570a.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 01:20:08 AM
One other is this 1927 Hungarian broadside for Metropolis. The estimate is $10-15,000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03320_zpseb7cb8ff.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 01:29:01 AM
And a few other shots of other posters that will be up for auction, too:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03308_zps41af2962.jpg)  

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03309_zps9df3eda4.jpg)    

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03329_zpsaa19fa26.jpg)  

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03330_zps8955a6e0.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03336_zps44bc0842.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03342_zps7c783787.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 24, 2014, 04:07:14 AM
Great photos. I can see why it must have been fun going to this showroom  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 24, 2014, 09:10:33 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 01:29:01 AM
And a few other shots of other posters that will be up for auction, too:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03308_zps41af2962.jpg)  

Great stuff, thanks for sharing.

Is that TCAT a trimmed WC?
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Post by: CSM on November 24, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Nice photos Jeff - some great posters on display for the auction.

The Mark of the Vampire looks restored to me (almost overly so) - did you get this impression up close?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 24, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Nice photos Jeff - some great posters on display for the auction.

The Mark of the Vampire looks restored to me (almost overly so) - did you get this impression up close?

Chris.. yes it has been restored. It has actually been worked on by 3 restorers over the years... and I must admit that it looked to be almost too re-worked in some spots.. Carol Borland's face, especially. It would be curious to know and see the condition it was in when Todd first got it, as a comparison. Maybe it had some major issues/ staining / water damage or paper loss that required the work.
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Post by: Starling on November 24, 2014, 12:17:28 PM
Great pics Jeff!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 24, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Chris.. yes it has been restored. It has actually been worked on by 3 restorers over the years... and I must admit that it looked to be almost too re-worked in some spots.. Carol Borland's face, especially. It would be curious to know and see the condition it was in when Todd first got it, as a comparison. Maybe it had some major issues/ staining / water damage or paper loss that required the work.

Thanks Jeff - good to know my paper discriminating eyes aren't failing me yet!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 24, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
Thanks Jeff - good to know my paper discriminating eyes aren't failing me yet!

Like anything... gotta be careful in not overdoing it.  ;)

IMO, the artwork of her face now looks a bit two dimensional and flat; there was no real depth to her image. Lugosi looked much better as did the background. So i'm thinking more work might have been done to her and this part of the poster (but i'm only guessing based on how the piece looked, in person).

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 24, 2014, 01:20:08 AM
One other is this 1927 Hungarian broadside for Metropolis. The estimate is $10-15,000.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03320_zpseb7cb8ff.jpg)



This piece also did not sell yesterday.   coffee

But Saruman's staff... the top of which can be seen in the lower right of the photo, did!  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 17, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
A BIN of $5867 USD and change.... with a good number of tape residue stains along the border, all the way around.

Link: 1964 Thunderball Quad (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=400807633183&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/THUNDERBALL_zps2ee4007a.jpg)



Price drop.. must be an early holiday special.  :D

It's now at a BIN of GBP 2,950.00 (US $4,630.76)

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Post by: Mirosae on November 25, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
Uff.... ugly carpet <OO
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 25, 2014, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 25, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
Uff.... ugly carpet <OO
;D
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Post by: CSM on November 25, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Maybe the carpet comes with it?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 25, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
Uff.... ugly carpet <OO

I'm guessing its an Oriental/Persian rug of some kind.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 25, 2014, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
I'm guessing its an Oriental/Persian rug of some kind.  ;D

It kind of fits the mood of the artwork as well
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 04:42:14 PM
Quote from: CSM on November 24, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
Nice photos Jeff - some great posters on display for the auction.

The Mark of the Vampire looks restored to me (almost overly so) - did you get this impression up close?

Tho, when compared to the color PB image of the OS, Borland has that same similar, more 2 dimensional look there, too:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC03316_zpsb4bcf06a.jpg)(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mark_zps515633ad.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on November 25, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 02:08:35 PM
This piece also did not sell yesterday.   coffee

But Saruman's staff... the top of which can be seen in the lower right of the photo, did!  thumbsup.gif

I could not believe the prices on the sword and staff.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2014, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 04:42:14 PM
Tho, when compared to the color PB image of the OS, Borland has that same similar, more 2 dimensional look there, too:


for 1920s-30s films, what the pressbook shows is almost always not the same. Frequently, the entire poster page on some pressbooks of the era are clearly - as is the case with the MOTV posters, completely redrawn, which makes them a poor candidate for comparison
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 25, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2014, 05:03:01 PM
for 1920s-30s films, what the pressbook shows is almost always not the same. Frequently, the entire poster page on some pressbooks of the era are clearly - as is the case with the MOTV posters, completely redrawn, which makes them a poor candidate for comparison

Indeed.

I was offering the PB image as some kind of comparison, since no other MARK OS has surfaced to compare it to.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 26, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
More Portal Publications madness.. I sent this seller a message asking for the dimensions, as they werent originally included... it a 20 x 28 poster with the top and bottom borders trimmed off. I then wrote back and told him/her what this most likely was. The response: "I will check that out."

I see they added the dimensions but no mention of it being an undersized repro.. and it's still listed in the ORIG section with an 800.00 price tag, and incorrectly ID'd as for a film from 1930-- this movie came out in 1935.  :-\

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221617327566?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 27, 2014, 03:37:47 PM
On the flip side of Portal is this one for Frankenstein. Nice graphics and imagery.

The seller is offering it for a BIN of $299.00 (OBO). Is this price in the realm for this particular Portal? Or do they go for much less?

Link: Portal Pub. Frankenstein OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=381037279827&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/3YUAAOSw6EhUUYPF/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on November 27, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
It does have nice artwork but I sure as hell would never pay that much for one
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
has pokerplayr posted here again since he was savaged by the same people who were friendly 3 days earlier? ask yourself why.
Actually, I've never posted here before tonight.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 27, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:17:09 PM
Actually, I've never posted here before tonight.

Maybe Moviepisterbid (Rich) is psychic?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 27, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Maybe Moviepisterbid (Rich) is psychic?
Perhaps. I do know that he is he one of two members who were friendly enough to welcome me to the forums.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 27, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Perhaps. I do know that he is he one of two members who were friendly enough to welcome me to the forums.

Good to see you, pokerplayr.....  ;)

And a happy Turkey day to you.



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Post by: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 10:00:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 27, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Good to see you, pokerplayr.....  ;)

And a happy Turkey day to you.




Thanks..... and the same to you and yours.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 27, 2014, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Perhaps. I do know that he is he one of two members who were friendly enough to welcome me to the forums.

 welcome1 to APF! 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 28, 2014, 12:00:12 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 27, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Maybe Moviepisterbid (Rich) is psychic?

I can see the future. Tomorrow.. is Friday and it's going to be cold
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww89/wotknot/Karnac.jpg)

Quote from: pokerplayr on November 27, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Perhaps. I do know that he is he one of two members who were friendly enough to welcome me to the forums.

 welcome1
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Post by: paul waines on November 28, 2014, 02:52:43 AM
Welcome Pokerplayr No e, enjoy...


Jeff that Frankey Portal would be in the £20 range over here...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 29, 2014, 10:43:22 PM
It's a little pricey- it's a Realart 1948 RR -- but, to me, this is one cool looking insert.. and since I dont know anyone I could PM to tell privately, who might want it, I present it here. Truly, from one Uni horror lover to another.  ;)

I'd love to see someone here on APF grab this (or else this would have been posted in the "latest snags" for Nov.  ;D)

Starting Bid: $1995.00

Link: THE GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN RR Insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=221620429585&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/GOF_zps4ec19547.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Opening bid is $12,000.00 USD  ;D

Link:  CASABLANCA 1st Release Daybill (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=331406172132&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CASA_zpse9a1c8a5.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on December 05, 2014, 02:34:45 PM
Wow, I'm surprised, I can actually recognize the cast.

 :D
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Post by: CSM on December 05, 2014, 02:44:35 PM
That's a copy I did not know existed.  $12,000 would be quite the result given past sales but with the insert going so high who knows?

Still if the seller were serious about moving it you'd think it would be best to place in a high profile auction
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 05, 2014, 02:34:45 PM
Wow, I'm surprised, I can actually recognize the cast.

 :D

That's because they used the US produced images (and used this layout):  ;D

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/casablanca-movie-poster-1942-1020189508_zps4022e95e.jpg)

Tho the AU artists retouched & went a bit heavy on his lipstick.   :-*
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Post by: Mirosae on December 05, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Uhm...I've seen that teeth before.  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 05, 2014, 02:34:45 PM
Wow, I'm surprised, I can actually recognize the cast.

 :D

This '49RR is a slightly different story:  :)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/casa49_zps327cb3f4.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 05, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
Marchant Printers used a photographic process on their daybills whereas the others are litho
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Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Right, Chris. 2 different production/print methods.. the later RR being drawn artwork, with Ingrid looking much older (imo) with those more obvious fold lines on either side of her nose and mouth.

Tho, to be fair, it is a number of years later, re-release-wise.   wynk

And with regard to Bogie's teeth on that one.. I think Rosa might be better able to express.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on December 05, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Right, Chris. 2 different production/print methods.. the later RR being drawn artwork, with Ingrid looking much older (imo) with those more obvious fold lines on either side of her nose and mouth.

Tho, to be fair, it is a number of years later, re-release-wise.   wynk

And with regard to Bogie's teeth on that one.. I think Rosa might be better able to express.  ;D

The academy award was quite a burden to carry around
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Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
Indeed, 'twas.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: lynaron on December 05, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
Welcome aboard pokerplayer!!!

Just as an FYI, way back when in the lost mists of time, I sent Todd color copies of the front and back of my MARK VAMPIRE press book so he would have a reference for the resto of the one sheet.  I was totally unaware that the pressbook and actual posters could or would be different.  Thanks for the info, Rich, you continue to teach this old dog new tricks.  Now, where's my cookie reward  ;D??

L.
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Post by: CSM on December 05, 2014, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: lynaron on December 05, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
Welcome aboard pokerplayer!!!

Just as an FYI, way back when in the lost mists of time, I sent Todd color copies of the front and back of my MARK VAMPIRE press book so he would have a reference for the resto of the one sheet.  I was totally unaware that the pressbook and actual posters could or would be different.  Thanks for the info, Rich, you continue to teach this old dog new tricks.  Now, where's my cookie reward  ;D??

L.

Well this seems to prove large portions of it were missing - and supports Jeff's visual observations
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 05, 2014, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: lynaron on December 05, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
Welcome aboard pokerplayer!!!

Just as an FYI, way back when in the lost mists of time, I sent Todd color copies of the front and back of my MARK VAMPIRE press book so he would have a reference for the resto of the one sheet.  I was totally unaware that the pressbook and actual posters could or would be different.  Thanks for the info, Rich, you continue to teach this old dog new tricks.  Now, where's my cookie reward  ;D??

L.

I'll bring cookies to Cinevent. get there early for the best selection
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Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: CSM on December 05, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
The academy award was quite a burden to carry around

Just like Scrooge and the 7 years of chain he bore!

"'Tis a ponderous chain...."
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Post by: erik1925 on December 07, 2014, 12:09:55 AM
An insert for the film, My Bill, with Kay Francis.

From HA -- to ebay, in three weeks.

HA- it sold on 11/16/14 for $143.40, inc the BP (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/my-bill-warner-brothers-1938-insert-14-x-36-drama/a/161446-53301.s)

To ebay on 12/4/14-- now listed for a BIN of $299.99

The same very distinct, identifying creases/damage are the same on both.  ;)

Link:  MY BILL US Insert (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=291315396957&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg1OTQ=/z/okMAAOSwofxUf8eG/$_12.JPG)
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on December 07, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
Bill : Ah did not have , a sexual relation , with that woman , Kay Francis  :P
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Post by: Mirosae on December 08, 2014, 02:55:54 AM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on December 07, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
Bill : Ah did not have , a sexual relation , with that woman , Kay Francis  :P

She married (and divorced) 5 times. Had numerous affairs with men and women (a true "democrat" as Rick might have said).

She kept herself  busy enough I think. :)
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2014, 03:09:19 AM
I think you might have missed Tang's joke there..   >:D
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Post by: Mirosae on December 08, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 08, 2014, 03:09:19 AM
I think you might have missed Tang's joke there..   >:D

Nope. I don't think so.  >:D
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Post by: Crazy Vick on December 09, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Have the reprints become so notorious they have some value now?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121509543698
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Post by: CSM on December 09, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on December 09, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Have the reprints become so notorious they have some value now?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121509543698

Likely the description was altered to note the fact it is a reprint AFTER the bids were placed
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Post by: erik1925 on December 09, 2014, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on December 09, 2014, 10:11:40 PM
Have the reprints become so notorious they have some value now?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121509543698

Prices seem all over the board, Vick.

Todd Feiertag has more than 10 rolled, 'hairy belt' copies available.

BIN @ $34.95 each"

Link: SW Style A "Hairy Belt" Rolled OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=151507489558&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)



Or here, Cinemasterpieces also has more than 10 rolled copies available, too, for BIN of $130.00 each:

Link: SW Style A "Hairy Belt" Rolled OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=180747549765&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: Neo on December 12, 2014, 05:47:28 PM
Cool Star Wars poster of R2-D2 skiing.  8)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3693895 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3693895)

Interesting description from eMovie:

"R2-D2 Skiing, the 1980s Norwegian commercial poster featuring an image of R2-D2 skiing down a slope by Tore Stang. Note that we really don't know anything about this poster other than that it is very cool. It was found along with some Danish posters, and it measures the right size for that, but the only words on it are for "Fox Norena Film Norway", so we would think it is a commercial poster from Norway. But of course, it could be anything else! We DID contact the two leading Star Wars experts in the world to ask them about this poster, and they told us that there were members of the Norwegian ski rescue patrol that worked as extras in Norway when the Hoth battle scenes were filmed. So they feel this COULD have been something that Fox Norway printed up to commemorate that, and that it might have been something only internally done, and perhaps given to the members of the ski team as thanks for their participation, but that is just guesswork on the part of the experts! If anyone knows more about this poster, please e-mail us and we will post it here."
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Post by: jedgerley on December 13, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
I am turning into the poster police today:

Heres the Reservoir Dogs that is a repro listed on the bay
I messaged the seller nicely and hope they dont get pissed.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=261697487384
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Post by: Simes on December 13, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
Am guessing this is a measurement thing...?

I don't know anything about this poster.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 13, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 13, 2014, 05:03:07 PM
Am guessing this is a measurement thing...?

I don't know anything about this poster.

from the thread in authentication, I have the comparison shown
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1467.msg167517.html#msg167517
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Post by: Simes on December 13, 2014, 05:41:14 PM
Ta.
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Post by: Mirosae on December 13, 2014, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 13, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
I am turning into the poster police today:

Heres the Reservoir Dogs that is a repro listed on the bay
I messaged the seller nicely and hope they dont get pissed.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=261697487384

Well spotted!! thumbsup.gif
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Post by: pokerplayr on December 13, 2014, 06:04:22 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 13, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
I am turning into the poster police today:

Heres the Reservoir Dogs that is a repro listed on the bay
I messaged the seller nicely and hope they dont get pissed.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=261697487384
The listing has been taken down.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261697487384
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Post by: pokerplayr on December 13, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
FYI

I was perusing some of the other offerings at maggiesattic and came across this listing for the Pulp Fiction "Dictionary" style as "original".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-27x40-Original-One-Sheet-Pulp-Fiction-Movie-Posters-and-Press-Photo-/251753407349?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9dac2375

The headline says 27" x 40", but at the very bottom of the listing, the size of the "Dictionary" style is stated as being 26.25" x 40".
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Post by: archie leach on December 13, 2014, 06:25:51 PM
The original PF definition style is actually 27x41, so this is either heavily trimmed or a reprint.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 13, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
at 40" is def a repro.

and this image shows what happens when you have a poster in a back backed with a corrugated surface behind it for a long time
notice the vertical lines that have been impressed from the cardboard. the poster will have rub wear at the pressure points

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/pf.jpg)
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Post by: jedgerley on December 13, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
Ah good to see they took it down, I dont think I want to break more bad news to them about the Pulp Fiction repros.
They aren't collectors and I believe it is an innocent mistake and its a good sign they took them down (hopefully wont try to sneak them up at a later date).

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 13, 2014, 08:26:46 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 13, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
Ah good to see they took it down, I dont think I want to break more bad news to them about the Pulp Fiction repros.
They aren't collectors and I believe it is an innocent mistake and its a good sign they took them down (hopefully wont try to sneak them up at a later date).



I think the regular is authentic
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Post by: pokerplayr on December 14, 2014, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: pokerplayr on December 13, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
FYI

I was perusing some of the other offerings at maggiesattic and came across this listing for the Pulp Fiction "Dictionary" style as "original".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-27x40-Original-One-Sheet-Pulp-Fiction-Movie-Posters-and-Press-Photo-/251753407349?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9dac2375

The headline says 27" x 40", but at the very bottom of the listing, the size of the "Dictionary" style is stated as being 26.25" x 40".
This listing has been taken down as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-27x40-Original-One-Sheet-Pulp-Fiction-Movie-Posters-and-Press-Photo-/251753407349?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a9dac2375

Kudos to the eBay seller, maggiesattic, who pulled the items when informed that they were being listed inaccurately.
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Post by: rumble on December 16, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
A very unusal and great-looking poster and probably rare, if the film was never released. But $8,495 is steep, even if you get the film along with it...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOST-1965-Cult-Film-NEST-OF-THE-CUCKOO-BIRDS-35mm-footage-poster-RARE-Cramps-/281531667134
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDg5/z/dzgAAOSwQJhUj4-K/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2014, 10:09:21 PM
it is an interesting poster and I was going to look it up & see what it was as per yur fb post.

it's almost cool enough to be "way cool" but if the letterings were better could make all the difference.
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Post by: CSM on December 16, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
That thing is worse than Chinese labour daybill art!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 17, 2014, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 16, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
That thing is worse than Chinese labour daybill art!

you have no taste
 ;D
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Post by: rumble on December 17, 2014, 03:04:27 AM
 I really like the poster, but I agree with Rich that the lettering could be better.
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Post by: Mirosae on December 17, 2014, 04:01:50 AM
Quote from: CSM on December 16, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
That thing is worse than Chinese labour daybill art!

I think I agree with that  ;D
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Post by: oldposterho on December 17, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
That's what makes it so endearing.  (Much like CLD art, I suppose...)

One zero too much on the price though.

--Peter
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Post by: Undead on December 24, 2014, 12:06:57 AM
Starting to wonder how far down this is going to drop before it is sold. They started listing it at over $1500. Starting bid down to $997.99. They also listed it at various prices in nine different auctions. Interesting way to market I guess.

51R Dracula Half Sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=121526182423&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 24, 2014, 12:36:30 AM
Quote from: Undead on December 24, 2014, 12:06:57 AM
Starting to wonder how far down this is going to drop before it is sold. They started listing it at over $1500. Starting bid down to $997.99. They also listed it at various prices in nine different auctions. Interesting way to market I guess.

51R Dracula Half Sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=121526182423&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

a remarkable change in values. 8 years ago, we would be jumping over each other to buy the poster at this price
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Post by: Undead on December 24, 2014, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 24, 2014, 12:36:30 AM
a remarkable change in values. 8 years ago, we would be jumping over each other to buy the poster at this price

My thoughts exactly.
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Post by: paul waines on December 24, 2014, 04:24:28 AM
Well, B and Z grade Horror/sci-fi prices have been going the way of Western and Musical posters, prices are dropping like a brick. So it's only natural that higher end stuff will eventually follow..  Which is great for me, but for anyone who bought to make money... laugh1
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Post by: rumble on December 24, 2014, 04:32:20 PM
I love that DRACULA! If my financial situation had been more secure I would have grabbed it for sure, looks like a bargain.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 24, 2014, 05:25:01 PM
Quote from: rumble on December 24, 2014, 04:32:20 PM
I love that DRACULA! If my financial situation had been more secure I would have grabbed it for sure, looks like a bargain.

in comparison to 2005-2008, prices are almost universally down and that brings the question "is it bargains time, or is it a new reality?"
the answer is - it's a new reality.
You can't look at what a poster went for in 2006 and use it as a yardstick (except for rarities of course) because that price is history.
as long as more material than customers can buy is being sold, the prices can't recover.
It's a small market with a greater supply than can be swallowed and once even a couple people leave at the high end (as can be seen in horror-scifi) the downward pressure will continue to increase

we might see some recovery a few years from now, but I certainly don't see one on the horizon right now
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Post by: rumble on December 25, 2014, 01:28:59 AM
To me, a "bargain" is "a great poster that I can afford". To see Universal material (even Realart) get under 1000 bucks for good pieces like this is very cool for us collectors, even if the "investment" prospects are bleak.
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Post by: rumble on January 03, 2015, 07:04:05 AM
DRACULA didn't even sell...  :o
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 03, 2015, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: rumble on January 03, 2015, 07:04:05 AM
DRACULA didn't even sell...  :o

the hobby is in a freefall in many ways.
as I said previously, in 2006-07-08 we would have climbed over each other to buy this item at that price even though it is backed/restored.
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Post by: oldposterho on January 03, 2015, 05:57:13 PM
I pretty much discard prices from the '06ish to '08ish period as that was the height of the housing bubble here (THAT WAS NEVER GOING TO END!!!!), and folks were throwing their riches at pretty much anything that wasn't nailed down.

That said, even if you do toss them, there are definitely some sectors that are hurting as a general trend but I also think the generational wave has something to do with the Uniho and fiddies sci fi decline.  That or there aren't enough rich rock stars duking it out with each other.  Collectors of '70s and '80s material take note.  You too shall suffer one day...

--Peter
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 03, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
while the whole economy was running faster than any engine should have been, that still doesn't take away that these posters were selling for more even before that market (06-08)

even in 2000 that Dracula was a 1000-1300 item and that being the case, if it sold for $1000 today, that is a loss from a purchase in 2000 as the investment value of the money was lost

also, in the case of Unihorror, there is more than 1 detrimental issue as we can't forget the Haggard scandal

regardless, a lot of value has been lost and with the continuation of a Wal Marting philosophy from some corners, there is more deterioration to come
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Post by: Undead on January 03, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
They actually paid just over $1k for it when they bought it. So at $900 or so they are in a money loss as well. Never s one if my favorites jut because every time I look at it I have to do a double take because I keep thinking it is Leslie Nielson bending over in the main image doing a seen from dead and loving it. Because of that alone I have to cap my value on it at $500.  Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the movie just no enough to pay $1k to be reminded of it.
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Post by: Undead on January 05, 2015, 01:01:08 PM
Just for fun I did offer them $500 on the Drac and they very not surprisingly declined.
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Post by: rumble on January 05, 2015, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: Undead on January 05, 2015, 01:01:08 PM
Just for fun I did offer them $500 on the Drac and they very not surprisingly declined.

I'm sure they thought it was HILARIOUS.  ;)
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Post by: Undead on January 05, 2015, 04:48:18 PM
All I can say is if they accepted I would have been smiling.   ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 05, 2015, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: Undead on January 05, 2015, 04:48:18 PM
All I can say is if they accepted I would have been smiling.   ;D

at $500, we'd all be jumping over each other to buy it
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Post by: brude on January 06, 2015, 08:54:37 PM
Anyone seen one of these before or have insight into what exactly it is?
My gut tells me its a small repro fabricated in someone's basement.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Curse-Of-The-Demon-Original-Theater-Stand-Promo-Poster-Universal-Monsters-Rare-/141530305238?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:1120 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Curse-Of-The-Demon-Original-Theater-Stand-Promo-Poster-Universal-Monsters-Rare-/141530305238?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:1120)

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/OTHER/_57_zpsf05e75fa.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/brude2000/media/OTHER/_57_zpsf05e75fa.jpg.html)

Looks pretty cool though, doesn't it?
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 06, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
Looks like it's on MDF wood (at least one layer)... that wasn't around until the 80s. 
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Post by: Undead on January 06, 2015, 09:40:20 PM
Definitely very cool looking.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 06, 2015, 10:36:08 PM
it's only 17x10 inches

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Post by: CSM on January 06, 2015, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: brude on January 06, 2015, 08:54:37 PM

My gut tells me its a small repro fabricated in someone's basement.



Something along those lines would be my guess
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Post by: jedgerley on January 07, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Something like this http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9240.msg170993.html#msg170993
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Post by: jayn_j on January 07, 2015, 12:06:06 PM
My guess is that this was made from a trimmed window card.  Size is right.  Take two WCs, trim the raised pieces off of one and then glue them over the complete one.

I suspect this was done at the time of the film release for lobby display.  Many of the larger theaters back then had a guy who did that sort of custom work.
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Post by: CSM on January 07, 2015, 12:27:13 PM
I've never seen a WC for CotD - anyone have a image of one?
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Post by: jayn_j on January 07, 2015, 01:56:02 PM
Quote from: CSM on January 07, 2015, 12:27:13 PM
I've never seen a WC for CotD - anyone have a image of one?

Bruce didn't have one listed, but I assumed that most 50s releases included window cards.  Artwork is same as 1 sheet, but it must be smaller.  It would have been near impossible to create a smaller color version in 1957.  Probably not until mid 80s when color laserjets became available.

I'm going to stick with repurposed window card.  If my hunch is right, there would be a complete window card hidden underneath.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 07, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
17x10 Jay.. too small to be a window card

it someone did that to a wc, they should be ashamed of themselves.
also, I believe the wc was the other image
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Post by: Ari on January 11, 2015, 11:08:25 PM
I can retire

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HAMMER-THE-REVENGE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-australian-one-sheet-/191409639419?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2c90e74ffb

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHANTOM-OF-THE-OPERA-poster-STUNNING-ARTWORK-HAMMER-HORROR-/231163807621?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d26fc785

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/THE-TWO-FACES-OF-DR-JEKYLL-original-CHRISTOPHER-LEE-HAMMER-HORROR-poster-/331081351570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d15fc8192
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 12, 2015, 02:50:35 AM
Quote from: Ari on January 11, 2015, 11:08:25 PM
I can retire

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HAMMER-THE-REVENGE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-australian-one-sheet-/191409639419?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item2c90e74ffb

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PHANTOM-OF-THE-OPERA-poster-STUNNING-ARTWORK-HAMMER-HORROR-/231163807621?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35d26fc785

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/THE-TWO-FACES-OF-DR-JEKYLL-original-CHRISTOPHER-LEE-HAMMER-HORROR-poster-/331081351570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d15fc8192

exactly how cheap is it to live in Oz?  dontknow.gif
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Post by: Ari on January 12, 2015, 03:15:57 AM
I mean because I have a LOT of hammer daybills,

and joking because they are not worth this sort of $
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Post by: Ari on January 21, 2015, 05:29:06 AM
Hell is a City ~ Original 1960 Photo Poster

Vintage and Original Photo Print  :::: HELL IS A CITY ::::

From dives to dames ......  From cops to killers ...

Original 1960's Photo Poster ~ Measures 8" x 14" ::: Back of Photo has "Kodak Paper" printed on the back

The Lettering on the bottom are fuzzy

Please Ask Question if in Doubt ::: Sold As Obtained

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hell-is-a-City-Original-1960-Photo-Poster-/171650631133?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f72cc5dd



(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA4MFgxNTMw/z/K4gAAOxyUylTV8Vh/$_57.JPG)

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Post by: Simes on January 21, 2015, 06:22:54 AM
 ;D
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Post by: jayn_j on January 21, 2015, 07:38:36 AM
Must be a fake.  Hell, Michigan doesn't have any tall buildings  ;D
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Post by: CSM on January 21, 2015, 10:11:41 AM
"Back of Photo has "Kodak Paper" printed on the back"

That's one of the best I've seen!  ;D
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Post by: jedgerley on January 21, 2015, 04:04:36 PM
The Lenticular Hall of Shame

This goes in waves.  except for Tloce his has been listed for god knows how long at a crazy prices on his lenticulars.

#1 Accousticimmersion The dude is local to me and refused to even consider a high retail price of $500 from me in the past.

Avatar $5,000!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avatar-Lenticular-Poster-US-One-Sheet-27-x-40-/221330713631?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338856ac1f

#2 Accousticimmersion

Ghost Rider $4,000!! I'll give him credit he did dicount it by $1,000 from his original price after I showed him others that were selling at semi-reasonable prices
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghost-Rider-Lenticular-US-One-Sheet-Poster-/221330711257?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338856a2d9

#3 Accousticimmersion

Wolverine $1,000!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Men-Origins-Wolverine-2009-Original-3D-Lenticular-Movie-Poster-/221330709069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3388569a4d

#4 Tloceposters  head scratcher and makes a lot of newbies think they are sitting on gold when they see his Avatar.  It is often discounted as it is now $1500 off the original price but it will go right back to $5,000  only 3 days left lol ACT FAST! har har har

AVATAR $5,000 and $3,500
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AVATAR-LENTICULAR-27X40-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-JAMES-CAMERON-ABSOLUTELY-GORGEOUS-/370625276481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564afcea41

#5 Tloceposters maybe he just uses these to bring attention to his other posters....who knows? but he knows better

TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE $850
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEXAS-CHAINSAW-MASSACRE-2013-LENTICULAR-3D-27X40-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-MINT-/370980093081?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566022fc99

#6 Tloceposters Really i say? good luck on this...not

CHRONICLES OF NARNIA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHRONICLES-OF-NARNIA-ROLLED-LENTICULAR-3D-27X40-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-/370980093137?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566022fcd1

#7 Tloceposters ......wow this one is only triple high retail! what a steal lol.

CORALINE
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CORALINE-27X40-MOVIE-POSTER-LENTICULAR-NM-/371042235823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5663d735af

Honorable Mention:

#1 Mpirate
JURASSIC PARK $625 OBO on ebay and $525 on Heritage Auctions
originally from Heritage for $358 and so damaged nobody wants it. an offer was made on heritage for $475?!? wondering if thats a real offer.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-RARE-Jurassic-Park-II-THE-LOST-WORLD-Lenticular-One-Sheet-27-x40-/151536409660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2348461c3c



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Post by: Ari on January 21, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
one pf my customers emailed me recently showing a new acquisition, it was a TCM Lenticular, and he paid about this much for it. I was surprised.
So I guess stuff like this might dribble out the door (?)
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Post by: jedgerley on January 21, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 21, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
one pf my customers emailed me recently showing a new acquisition, it was a TCM Lenticular, and he paid about this much for it. I was surprised.
So I guess stuff like this might dribble out the door (?)


geez louise...lemme know if wants another one or anything else!!!  far as I have seen I have never seen anything overpriced sell on ebay.  now Heritage is another story ofcourse....crazy anomolies from one month to the other especially with AVATAR lent.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on January 21, 2015, 09:15:39 PM
never know, maybe he could feel good getting one cheaper, he thought it was a bargain by the way.
I had/have no idea on this stuff, but I was surprised.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on January 23, 2015, 07:35:38 PM
1) its UGLY.
2) its UGLY.
3) its EXPENSIVE
4) I still "need" it.


But damned if I would pay that much.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Drivers-of-the-Hell-Patric-Mc-Goohan-Stanley-Baker-Herbert-Lom-Peggy-Cumm-/141551315391?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:AU:3160

Surely this is $20 poster at best.
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Post by: jedgerley on January 23, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
I dare ya to make an Offer for $20 please.  Its all the rage to make fair offers these days!!
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Post by: Ari on January 23, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
Done
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Post by: CSM on January 24, 2015, 12:01:43 AM
The reversed title alone has to be worth $20!
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Post by: Ari on January 24, 2015, 12:02:43 AM
yeah, well I really would like it, and perhaps its the only one surviving, who knows, WHY ISNT IT AT LEAST MEDIOCRE?
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Post by: Undead on January 24, 2015, 01:41:03 AM
I just have to ask where the heck does Benito come up with some of this stuff. An original Mummy affiche poster. To me the Mummy is one of my all time favorite horror classics and if I could manage to land one of these or something similar I would probably just call it a day ans stop collecting.

1932 Mummy French Affiche (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=151535562153&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: Ari on January 24, 2015, 01:49:53 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on January 23, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
I dare ya to make an Offer for $20 please.  Its all the rage to make fair offers these days!!

Declined
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Post by: Mirosae on January 24, 2015, 05:10:31 AM
Sorry to hear that Ari.   :-[
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on January 24, 2015, 06:12:30 AM
Quote from: Undead on January 24, 2015, 01:41:03 AM
I just have to ask where the heck does Benito come up with some of this stuff. An original Mummy affiche poster. To me the Mummy is one of my all time favorite horror classics and if I could manage to land one of these or something similar I would probably just call it a day ans stop collecting.

1932 Mummy French Affiche (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=151535562153&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

I asked him that very same question few weeks ago. All that I got for an answer was.."Mire Ud. Ehm, uhm, mmm .. heh...heh.. parece que va a llover...."  (Matias can do the translation) ;D

He is actually a lovely man. Very nice.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2015, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: Undead on January 24, 2015, 01:41:03 AM
I just have to ask where the heck does Benito come up with some of this stuff. An original Mummy affiche poster. To me the Mummy is one of my all time favorite horror classics and if I could manage to land one of these or something similar I would probably just call it a day ans stop collecting.

1932 Mummy French Affiche (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=151535562153&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

Mike.. he seems to pull things out of thin air.. and has been doing so for a long time.... Ive always loved that MUMMY piece of his too... (the price tag is also one to make me  faint2.gif

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on January 24, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
To be fair, it's a pre-war Belgian, not a French poster.  Has a French poster ever turned up for the '32 Mummy?
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 25, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
I don't like to out auctions.... but in this case the seller is VERY persuasive, consider yourselves warned!!! My highlights in red ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-1963-section-of-1-sheet-ALFRED-HITCHCOCK-The-BIRDS-movie-poster-/111582338429?ssPageName=ADME:SS:SS:US:3160

Quote
Has been in folded position - it appears someone cut the left middle section of this 1 sheet to fit along side something else - few glue marks from tape - but MOST of the best part of the poster remains and is in VERY GOOD to EXCELLENT condition (SEE PHOTO) and if any concerns, ASK FIRST PLEASE.

Quote
Original section of the ALFRED HITCHCOCK movie poster sent to the theatre in 1963 for the movie "The BIRDS". Would still make a beautiful framed piece of collectible memorabilia.  Uncut posters are selling for thousands so having a good portion of one is the NEXT BEST THING.





wait for it....







wait for it....






Only a $400 BIN!!!  But remember, having a piece of a poster is the NEXT BEST THING  ;D

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg3MDE=/z/hSgAAOSw8d9UwTdg/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: Mirosae on January 25, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Thank you Matt. Solid entertainment. It is so outrageous that it reads like the best Greek comedy.  Although I just want to cry. There is no respect for the buyers these days. Anything goes.
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Post by: jedgerley on January 25, 2015, 12:12:44 PM
Taking bets....will they get the opening bid of $50?
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Post by: CSM on January 25, 2015, 01:23:25 PM
That is hilarious.  So many shysters out there trying to make their shit smell like roses
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on January 25, 2015, 03:34:08 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on January 24, 2015, 01:33:16 PM
To be fair, it's a pre-war Belgian, not a French poster.  Has a French poster ever turned up for the '32 Mummy?

Thank you for correcting me, as is to be expected Harry is I am sure correct. Foreign posters of this age are very admittedly well outside of my expertise.  notworthy.gif

1932 Mummy Pre-War Belgian (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=151535562153&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: Undead on January 25, 2015, 03:40:28 PM
Harry,

By the way, thanks for outing the insert. I was sure I was going to win that for the opening bid until now...  ;D
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Post by: jedgerley on January 26, 2015, 08:28:44 PM
WTF!!!! Ok now This one is ridiculous!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOST-WORLD-JURASSIC-PARK-1997-RARE-27X40-Lenticular-Theatrical-Poster-MINT-/351297419290?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51caf5381a

"Shipping is $40 dollars, I will pay the difference as it will have to be specially boxed and will cost more."

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/jurassic10000.png)
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Post by: Ari on January 26, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
MAKE AN OFFER, you know you want to.
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Post by: jedgerley on January 26, 2015, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 26, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
MAKE AN OFFER, you know you want to.

Oh i sure did soon as I got done posting. $625 and automatically declined. I am betting it would decline 5,000
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Post by: Ari on January 26, 2015, 09:40:13 PM
So Im wasting my time with $20?, damn :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on January 26, 2015, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Ari on January 26, 2015, 09:40:13 PM
So Im wasting my time with $20?, damn :)

I wanted to offer $20 in the spirit of being Offal.
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Post by: Ari on January 26, 2015, 10:24:44 PM
there is still time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on January 27, 2015, 07:55:52 PM
Somebody bought The Birds for $49.
Why?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on January 27, 2015, 08:47:31 PM
Quote from: brude on January 27, 2015, 07:55:52 PM
Somebody bought The Birds for $49.
Why?


Quote
Original section of the ALFRED HITCHCOCK movie poster sent to the theatre in 1963 for the movie "The BIRDS". Would still make a beautiful framed piece of collectible memorabilia.  Uncut posters are selling for thousands so having a good portion of one is the NEXT BEST THING.


 ;D
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Post by: Neo on January 27, 2015, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: brude on January 27, 2015, 07:55:52 PM
Somebody bought The Birds for $49.
Why?

The next best thing line is pure marketing genius.

   clap
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Post by: Undead on January 27, 2015, 09:32:11 PM
Maybe they have the rest of the insert to go with it. Or maybe they think they should frame it as is. We need a shoulder shrug icon.
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Post by: Mirosae on January 28, 2015, 07:35:24 PM
Quote from: Undead on January 27, 2015, 09:32:11 PM
Maybe they have the rest of the insert to go with it. Or maybe they think they should frame it as is. We need a shoulder shrug icon.

 dontknow.gif

 ;D
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Post by: Ari on February 03, 2015, 11:50:11 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mad-Max-Interceptor-Coupe-MFP-1973-XA-XB-XC-Ford-Falcon-Black-Pursuit-/131418166649?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item1e99221579
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Post by: Undead on February 04, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
I'll take it! To bad he does not have more pics, great looking piece.
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on February 04, 2015, 02:44:32 AM
Love his user name!
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Post by: Neo on February 04, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
Quote from: Ari on February 03, 2015, 11:50:11 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mad-Max-Interceptor-Coupe-MFP-1973-XA-XB-XC-Ford-Falcon-Black-Pursuit-/131418166649?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item1e99221579

Nice.  cool1
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Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2015, 04:48:36 PM
Quote from: Undead on January 25, 2015, 03:34:08 PM
Thank you for correcting me, as is to be expected Harry is I am sure correct. Foreign posters of this age are very admittedly well outside of my expertise.  notworthy.gif

1932 Mummy Pre-War Belgian (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=151535562153&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)


If only Benito had that "Make an Offer" button on this auction.  ;D

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 09, 2015, 11:20:58 PM
who's bidding on this one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warner-Bros-casablanca-poster-/231471002780?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e4bf349c
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on February 09, 2015, 11:42:31 PM
ME!
I mean not me
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on February 12, 2015, 01:31:42 AM
COOL

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/COOL-HAND-LUKE-Original-Vintage-1960s-DB-Movie-Poster-Paul-Newman-/321650159263?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item4ae3d7ee9f

actually, not cool :)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 12, 2015, 03:18:21 AM
Oh boy. That is ridiculous. :-X
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on February 12, 2015, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Ari on February 12, 2015, 01:31:42 AM
COOL

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/COOL-HAND-LUKE-Original-Vintage-1960s-DB-Movie-Poster-Paul-Newman-/321650159263?pt=AU_Movie_Memorabilia&hash=item4ae3d7ee9f

actually, not cool :)

There must be some gold beneath the poster, not showing in the pic. Hence the price.  ;)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 17, 2015, 11:23:36 AM
In 2004 Heritage sold a Frankenstein 1-sheet for $189K.
In 2015 Heritage sold a Frankenstein 3-sheet for $?K.. I am ready to  faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on February 17, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
Of all the three sheets they could have found the C is the best by far. Similar artwork tot he window card. Can't wait to see it. Too bad it will be out of my price range.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 17, 2015, 01:31:36 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/frankenstein-universal-1931-three-sheet-41-x-81-style-c/p/7106-98001.s

Holy smokes.  Sean is going to make a bundle  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on February 17, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: Undead on February 17, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
Of all the three sheets they could have found the C is the best by far. Similar artwork tot he window card. Can't wait to see it. Too bad it will be out of my price range.

Any pics of it from the pressbook?  Would love to see it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on February 17, 2015, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 17, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
Any pics of it from the pressbook?  Would love to see it.

+1  I'd love to see it too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 02:51:25 PM
Is there a known Frankenstein pressbook? 

As an aside, between the Franky 3-sheet and the LAMs I'm starting to think that what is "known" doesn't mean shit! 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 17, 2015, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 02:51:25 PM
Is there a known Frankenstein pressbook? 


I did some Google digging and I could not find a US book for the original release. 

That said do we believe this is legitimately one of the 3 sheet styles (doesn't look right to me)?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IZ4LdlV7BvU/UC4EZ-xwyKI/AAAAAAAAIos/64Vm7iWbqlk/s1600/Frankenstein+crowd.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
That looks locally produced to me. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 17, 2015, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 02:51:25 PM
Is there a known Frankenstein pressbook? 

As an aside, between the Franky 3-sheet and the LAMs I'm starting to think that what is "known" doesn't mean shit! 

A great point!....It is interesting to see what happens when these pieces come to market...there are so many fluctuations in these signature auctions...but when material of this caliber shows up...the fact that it is "previously unseen" or "only known copy" really adds to the fireworks...after watching the last LAM auction...striking while the iron is hot...after greasing the wheels with that record breaking result seems like a smart move...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 17, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
Here's another thought - will it be incomplete like the LAM?
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Post by: crowzilla on February 17, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
That is definitely not a 3-sheet that is shown in the pressbook (yes, Frankie pressbooks do exist). Certainly locally produced.

This 3-sheet is similar to the insert and WC (and herald), with a large Karloff head floating over Mae Clark fainted across the bed and the logo tilting up towards the right in the middle (not straight across like the insert).
Except of course that it is a gorgeous full-color stone litho.
 
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Post by: crowzilla on February 17, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Good style Wizard of Oz 1-sheet, Maltese Falcon 6-sheet, original Kurosawa artwork...
I don't know how Grey keeps putting together the very best auctions this hobby has seen (well probably has something to do with the top prices they get, his honesty, integrity, and other factors, but you know what i mean).

Truly amazing.
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Post by: CSM on February 17, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
Thanks Sean - any knowledge on its completeness or condition? 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
this is a hand painted item

Quote from: CSM on February 17, 2015, 03:10:56 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IZ4LdlV7BvU/UC4EZ-xwyKI/AAAAAAAAIos/64Vm7iWbqlk/s1600/Frankenstein+crowd.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
Grey Smith clearly finds the unfindable.

I can't imagine that anyone would not be jealous of his ability to uncover these gems

 notworthy.gif
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 17, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
I have seen that Frank art before, now I cant tell you for the life of me where or when, but I have seen it.
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Post by: 110x75 on February 17, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
Grey Smith clearly finds the unfindable.

I can't imagine that anyone would not be jealous of his ability to uncover these gems

 notworthy.gif

Does he personally find them or the high ticket items come to him, given Heritage's achieved prices?
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Post by: erik1925 on February 17, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on February 17, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
I have seen that Frank art before, now I cant tell you for the life of me where or when, but I have seen it.

Dale,

That B/W still has been posted to APF before but maybe you were thinking of this poster? The Swedish OS has the same, general imagery, and I think its a great design, too, imo!  thumbsup.gif

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Frankenstein-1931_900_zpsb4daffc3.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 17, 2015, 08:47:37 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 17, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
Does he personally find them or the high ticket items come to him, given Heritage's achieved prices?

I'm sure it's a combination
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on February 17, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
I have seen that Frank art before, now I cant tell you for the life of me where or when, but I have seen it.

A few days ago I posted it here... (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,5703.msg173229.html#msg173229)

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Post by: Undead on February 17, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 17, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
Any pics of it from the pressbook?  Would love to see it.

I will scan and post a shot of later tonight.
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Post by: Undead on February 17, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
(http://undead.net/images/posters/frank_c_3sh_pb.jpg)
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 17, 2015, 11:09:35 PM
As a door-sized stone litho -- that is gonna be a stunner!  Can't wait to see the color scheme.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 18, 2015, 12:12:49 AM
If I were the  underbidder on the LAM one sheet ....I would be rejoicing that I still had my $$¢¢€€€¥££$$ to compete for this poster....
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Post by: Undead on February 18, 2015, 01:00:40 AM
Don't get your hopes up. I am winning the lottery tonight and then I will own this.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 18, 2015, 01:33:33 AM
....I wonder if the Frankenstein lobby cards are part of the same find?...and if Morrie's collection is broken up individually...and there are Frankies there too...then we have several chances to get original release cards this year...sounds good to me!!

If they are not part of the same find...I wonder if the cards were consigned or available for sale upon knowing that the 3 sheet was being auctioned and it was an opportunity to cash in riding the coattails...i always wonder about the inner workings of these blockbuster auctions
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Post by: Mirosae on February 18, 2015, 06:25:01 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on February 18, 2015, 12:12:49 AM
If I were the  underbidder on the LAM one sheet ....I would be rejoicing that I still had my $$¢¢€€€¥££$$ to compete for this poster....

So true  :)

I want to see its condition. And I wish HA could reveal where they find these posters - clearly they won't for confidentiality and other reasons, but would really want to know where these posters come from.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 18, 2015, 07:05:17 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 18, 2015, 06:25:01 AM
would really want to know where these posters come from.

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/hands_magic_hat_400_clr_6607.png)
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Post by: Mirosae on February 18, 2015, 07:12:23 AM
 Im impressed ;D
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Post by: Mirosae on February 18, 2015, 07:21:44 AM
On a side note, it seems to me that HA has stepped up a gear over the last couple of years. They always had incredible posters but lately their posters are just from another Galaxy altogether.

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Post by: CSM on February 18, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Thanks for sharing the pressbook image.

Very similar style to the insert, daybill and window card (as others have said) but on a more spectacular scale
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Post by: Undead on February 18, 2015, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: CSM on February 18, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Thanks for sharing the pressbook image.

Very similar style to the insert, daybill and window card (as others have said) but on a more spectacular scale

I have a feeling impressive will be an understatement. If the color scheme is the same that will be a red head/face that will be close to three feet wide staring at you.
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Post by: Starling on February 18, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
What are we thinking?  Is Frankster gunna break 500 k??

I'm practically frothing at the mouth to see it :)

If I were anywhere near Dallas, I would be making a pilgrimage to genuflect in front of this beauty.

God, this is the best hobby  :)
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 18, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 18, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
What are we thinking?  Is Frankster gunna break 500 k??

With ease I would think...
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Post by: erik1925 on February 18, 2015, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: Starling on February 18, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
What are we thinking?  Is Frankster gunna break 500 k??

I'm practically frothing at the mouth to see it :)

If I were anywhere near Dallas, I would be making a pilgrimage to genuflect in front of this beauty.

God, this is the best hobby  :)

This is going to be just a  jawdrop wow1 sad.gif when we finally see it, in all its glory. Amazing and the number this achieves could be mind blowing, too. Simply outstanding. And another big Congrats to Grey for acquiring and offering this piece!

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Post by: CSM on February 18, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
Wonder if it will have a high reserve like Todd's Bride teaser did resulting in no sale?
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 18, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: CSM on February 18, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
Wonder if it will have a high reserve like Todd's Bride teaser did resulting in no sale?

That could definitely be a possibility.  But if they are just looking for publicity, why wouldn't they just put it on eBay with an absurd BIN/opening like Todd does? 
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Post by: Crazy Vick on February 18, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/world-war-i-christy-girl-recruiting-poster-us-navy-1917-howard-chandler-christy-poster-27-x-41-i-want-y/p/7106-13005.s

"In excellent condition, the poster receives the highest grade possible for a poster mounted on linen. Very Fine+ on Linen."

Q: is there a higher grade possible for non-linens?

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Post by: erik1925 on February 18, 2015, 02:50:40 PM
Non linen backed posters can be graded NM-Mint.

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Post by: ddilts399 on February 18, 2015, 08:41:53 PM
It was the Swedish poster art I had seen, that solved it thanks!
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2015, 10:47:16 PM
I wonder how this one will fare for HA, in March? The red screen version for the 1960s RR of Frankenstein.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/frankenstein-universal-r-1960s-one-sheet-27-x-41-red-style/p/7106-8012.s

One is sitting on ebay, too, right now (and has been for a short time). The seller seems firm at his/her $2995.00 opening bid price:

Frankie 60's RR OS (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337459134&customid=&icep_item=141578488217&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/v8kAAOSwuMFUkNCG/$_12.JPG)

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Post by: Mirosae on February 20, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 18, 2015, 02:13:01 PM
This is going to be just a  jawdrop wow1 sad.gif when we finally see it, in all its glory. Amazing and the number this achieves could be mind blowing, too. Simply outstanding. And another big Congrats to Grey for acquiring and offering this piece!



Quote from: Starling on February 18, 2015, 01:57:17 PM
What are we thinking?  Is Frankster gunna break 500 k??

I'm practically frothing at the mouth to see it :)

If I were anywhere near Dallas, I would be making a pilgrimage to genuflect in front of this beauty.

God, this is the best hobby  :)


Quote from: Harry Caul on February 18, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
With ease I would think...



The REAL QUESTION IS WHICH POSTER WILL NOW BE ON THE FRONT COVER OF THIS SIG CAT? There are so many to pick from the I can see the editorial team going mad.

 I will be glued to my computer, watching it live- hard life this is . I cannot wait .. :)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 20, 2015, 01:52:08 PM
I'd be willing to place a good bet that the Frankie 3 sheet will make the cover, as the centerpiece.

And maybe the LAM 3sh will share some space with it.  thumbsup.gif



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Post by: Mirosae on February 20, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Yes, you probably right. Though I would  have it all covered in Maltes (Falcon) he he

I think it will be a tough call..
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Post by: erik1925 on February 24, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
Yet another quad for 1939's Hunchback makes an HA appearance. Another copy? Or is this the one that they auctioned in November of 2013?

The pre-restore description reads closely to the one sold back then for $776.75

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-hunchback-of-notre-dame-rko-1939-british-quad-30-x-40-/p/7106-86028.s
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on February 25, 2015, 03:53:39 PM
That Hunchback quad looks great. Definitely going to watch that and see what it goes for.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 20, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
The REAL QUESTION IS WHICH POSTER WILL NOW BE ON THE FRONT COVER OF THIS SIG CAT? There are so many to pick from the I can see the editorial team going mad.

you can be sure that each marquee item will be represented, though the Frankenstein 3sh will indeed be the central item and will be the fiscal high point of the auction followed by LAM and the Falcon (most likely)
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Post by: paul waines on February 26, 2015, 02:53:37 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 24, 2015, 02:38:22 PM
Yet another quad for 1939's Hunchback makes an HA appearance. Another copy? Or is this the one that they auctioned in November of 2013?

The pre-restore description reads closely to the one sold back then for $776.75

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-hunchback-of-notre-dame-rko-1939-british-quad-30-x-40-/p/7106-86028.s


Mine is at Studio C as we speak Jeff...........what do you mean about time... ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 26, 2015, 12:41:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 26, 2015, 02:53:37 AM

Mine is at Studio C as we speak Jeff...........what do you mean about time... ;)

Congrats on getting it sent off, Paul. I know you were wanting and deciding the best route to take, and after obtaining the proper printer's info, it sounds like it will come off fantastically!

 thumbsup.gif

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Post by: paul waines on February 26, 2015, 03:42:01 PM
Part of the problem with it Jeff was it was stuck to a board, which made it a sod to post anywhere, but I managed too get it off the board a few weeks back, so it folded up nicely. :)

I'll post a pic when it arrives back here..
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Post by: erik1925 on February 26, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: paul waines on February 26, 2015, 03:42:01 PM
Part of the problem with it Jeff was it was stuck to a board, which made it a sod to post anywhere, but I managed too get it off the board a few weeks back, so it folded up nicely. :)

I'll post a pic when it arrives back here..

All sounds good, Paul.. and I cant wait to see the final result!  :D
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on February 26, 2015, 05:05:42 PM
Love the French 1p of La Dolce Vita that EMP has up right now.

(would post the image but says my uploader is full  :( )
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Post by: erik1925 on February 26, 2015, 05:42:18 PM
 ;)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/550/french_1p_la_dolce_vita_linen_BM03186_C.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on February 26, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
I'm sorry but I've got to ask...

What the fuck is wrong with these people.  Not even in Very Good to Fine condition.  Just Good.

Birdman (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3775106).

T
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Post by: jedgerley on February 26, 2015, 06:08:09 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 26, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
I'm sorry but I've got to ask...

What the fuck is wrong with these people.  Not even in Very Good to Fine condition.  Just Good.

Birdman (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3775106).

T

Wow Thats just about Double the most expensive one on ebay.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 26, 2015, 06:19:08 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 26, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
I'm sorry but I've got to ask...

What the fuck is wrong with these people.  Not even in Very Good to Fine condition.  Just Good.

Birdman (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3775106).

T

I just came across this one too, T.. and was going to ask the same thing...

"The poster has some many creases scattered throughout from being tightly rolled at one time."

And it reminds me of the old school paint by numbers canvases.



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Post by: eatbrie on February 26, 2015, 07:25:36 PM
No, I actually like this poster.  At least it's not a headshot.  At least it's trying, which is more than I can say about 99% of modern posters out there.  I think the Birdman campaign was quite nice.  Not $105 nice, though.  Especially in this awful condition.

T
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Post by: Charlie on February 26, 2015, 08:07:30 PM
Those Canadian versions look to be reprints or other... They have different credits/logos at the bottom.  It may be hard to find this one eventually.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2015, 04:11:08 PM
A BIN of $9 grand... :o  faint2.gif

and offered by tloce, no less.

At least the borders all look nice and white.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SON-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1938-LOBBY-CARD-2-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-BORIS-KARLOFF-/310732531637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48591a27b5

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqNqMFH9ywK3EiBSHLt7izUg60_12_zpsb0tzheme.jpg)
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Post by: jayn_j on February 27, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 27, 2015, 04:11:08 PM
A BIN of $9 grand... :o  faint2.gif

and offered by tloce, no less.

At least the borders all look nice and white.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SON-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1938-LOBBY-CARD-2-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-BORIS-KARLOFF-/310732531637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48591a27b5

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqNqMFH9ywK3EiBSHLt7izUg60_12_zpsb0tzheme.jpg)

Wow, with an NSS notice no less, before Universal signed with NSS.  And those borders are so white they don't even have the Universal copyright notice.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
The photo on the card is SO appropriate here... with the Monster almost saying (in that pose): "Are you kidding me, or what?!?!"
 Doh.gif
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Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2015, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 27, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
The photo on the card is SO appropriate here... with the Monster almost saying (in that pose): "Are you kidding me, or what?!?!"
 Doh.gif

NO. IT SAYS.. come on mate.. ''SHOW ME THE MONEY''

 :P
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Post by: 50s on February 27, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
I wonder if Mel is selling off his collection? Here are some he has a copy of that are up on EMP (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/13.html)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_undead_linen_BM03159_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_mole_people_linen_BM03163_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/french_1p_house_on_haunted_hill_linen_BM03169_T.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2015, 06:34:19 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 27, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
I wonder if Mel is selling off his collection? Here are some he has a copy of that are up on EMP (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/13.html)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_undead_linen_BM03159_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_mole_people_linen_BM03163_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/french_1p_house_on_haunted_hill_linen_BM03169_T.jpg)



and this perhaps one, too:  dontknow.gif

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_attack_of_the_crab_monsters_linen_BM03150_C.jpg)
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Post by: Undead on February 27, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
The Undead appears to be his and if all goes well mine. It does go with my name after all.  ;D
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Post by: 50s on February 27, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
Quote from: Undead on February 27, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
The Undead appears to be his and if all goes well mine. It does go with my name after all.  ;D


Now that you mention it, I'm rather liking it too


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Post by: jedgerley on February 27, 2015, 09:10:58 PM
hmmm me toooooo  ;)
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Post by: brude on February 27, 2015, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 27, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
I wonder if Mel is selling off his collection? Here are some he has a copy of that are up on EMP (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/13.html)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_undead_linen_BM03159_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/3sh_mole_people_linen_BM03163_C.jpg) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150224/200/french_1p_house_on_haunted_hill_linen_BM03169_T.jpg)



I'm betting you're right.
A long-time and beloved APF member told me a few years ago that he had seen several Mel 'types' before.
Without getting into the details, he accurately predicted Dread Pirate Mel's 'history' and, this sale was the closing chapter.

Damn, Ari...you were spot on.
 thumbup
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Post by: Ari on February 27, 2015, 11:31:50 PM
glad someone remembered,


(http://50.6.140.129/images/Criswell_Coffin%201.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on February 28, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
Quote from: brude on February 27, 2015, 10:55:08 PM
I'm betting you're right.
A long-time and beloved APF member told me a few years ago that he had seen several Mel 'types' before.
Without getting into the details, he accurately predicted Dread Pirate Mel's 'history' and, this sale was the closing chapter.

Damn, Ari...you were spot on.
 thumbup


Icarus's father warns him first of complacency and then of hubris, asking that he fly neither too low nor too high, because the sea's dampness would clog his wings or the sun's heat would melt them. Icarus ignored his father's instructions not to fly too close to the sun, whereupon the wax in his wings melted and he fell into the sea.
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Post by: 50s on February 28, 2015, 12:17:15 AM
Well, the neigbours will start to see a more normal neighbour in Mel for the next open house days.

I think Bruce said Mel was a 'lifer' - a collector for life. Its hard to pick em I guess.

I'm on my last legs collecting, I've got too many (200? + 150 mex lobby cards!). Maybe if I can bear to sell some (well, maybe half the collection will be easy ;) ), I might do what others do and sell the less desirable ones and consolidate to a limited collection of good ones, its own little self funding pool. Why store them and never see nearly all of them. At least with a smaller collection the odds of seeing them are much higher. I have other priorities at the moment - need income from other sources to pay off debts, and then maybe,... , move closer to the girlie... I've been saying that to her for 5 years though...  

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Post by: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:17:47 AM
That Ari - such an offaly wise man!
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Post by: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:18:38 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 28, 2015, 12:17:15 AM
Well, the neigbours will start to see a more normal neighbour in Mel for the next open house days.

I think Bruce said Mel was a 'lifer' - a collector for life. Its hard to pick em I guess.

I'm on my last legs collecting, I've got too many (200? + 150 mex lobby cards!). Maybe if I can bear to sell some (well, maybe half the collection will be easy ;) ), I might do what others do and sell the less desirable ones and consolidate to a limited collection of good ones, its own little self funding pool. Why store them and never see nearly all of them. At least with a smaller collection the odds of seeing them are much higher. I have other priorities at the moment - need income from other sources to pay off debts, and then maybe,... , move closer to the girlie... I've been saying that to her for 5 years though...  



Steve you should try the Posterazzi method!


On second thought probably not...
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Post by: brude on February 28, 2015, 12:20:25 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 28, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
Icarus's father warns him first of complacency and then of hubris, asking that he fly neither too low nor too high, because the sea's dampness would clog his wings or the sun's heat would melt them. Icarus ignored his father's instructions not to fly too close to the sun, whereupon the wax in his wings melted and he fell into the sea.

 cheers
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Post by: 50s on February 28, 2015, 12:24:10 AM
it happened in athens---15---100k2
panic button---14---2040---g3
pete kellys blues---16---2545---g10
this card is crap---6---com3
in fact, they all are---22---4075---g11
will success spoil rock hunter---15---4075---g7/us686.JPG
underwater---28---75150---g4
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Post by: Harry Caul on February 28, 2015, 12:28:34 AM
I'm going to have nightmares tonight just seeing that again!   :o
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Post by: brude on February 28, 2015, 12:29:49 AM
You and me both.
 ;)
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Post by: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:33:26 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 28, 2015, 12:24:10 AM
it happened in athens---15---100k2
panic button---14---2040---g3
pete kellys blues---16---2545---g10
this card is crap---6---com3
in fact, they all are---22---4075---g11
will success spoil rock hunter---15---4075---g7/us686.JPG
underwater---28---75150---g4


 happy1
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Post by: brude on February 28, 2015, 12:35:25 AM
Gott im Himmel.

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/a9b6b9041e5df74940c513127a6df010/tumblr_nkgp0txi461s2pocso1_1280.jpg)

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/frankenstein-universal-1931-three-sheet-41-x-785-style-c/p/7106-98001.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/frankenstein-universal-1931-three-sheet-41-x-785-style-c/p/7106-98001.s)

 bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:39:16 AM
We'll probably never see it but would really like to see a pre-restoration pic (and of the battered Mummy one sheet that sold years ago)
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Post by: brude on February 28, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
Remember Bruce?
Man, he's got some linen-backed beauties ending Sunday.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/15.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/15.html)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 28, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 28, 2015, 12:24:10 AM
this card is crap---6---com3
in fact, they all are---22---4075---g11

can you post pictures of these with prices.. how much is shipping?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 28, 2015, 01:15:00 AM
Quote from: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:39:16 AM
and of the battered Mummy one sheet that sold years ago

I've seen this photo pre-resto
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Post by: oldposterho on February 28, 2015, 01:32:19 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 28, 2015, 01:13:50 AM
can you post pictures of these with prices.. how much is shipping?

Clearly no.  If you are unable to decipher the arcana, you are not worthy to own them.

--Peter
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Post by: Mirosae on February 28, 2015, 04:41:49 AM
Quote from: CSM on February 28, 2015, 12:39:16 AM
We'll probably never see it but would really like to see a pre-restoration pic (and of the battered Mummy one sheet that sold years ago)

Me too....

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 28, 2015, 01:15:00 AM
I've seen this photo pre-resto

Lucky man
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Post by: Mirosae on February 28, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: brude on February 27, 2015, 10:55:08 PM
I'm betting you're right.
A long-time and beloved APF member told me a few years ago that he had seen several Mel 'types' before.
Without getting into the details, he accurately predicted Dread Pirate Mel's 'history' and, this sale was the closing chapter.

Damn, Ari...you were spot on.
 thumbup


So Ari......Uhm. ..which type of poster luv collectorsh am I...? ...and will i ever get my (:&**^$#) dream poster? :D


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Post by: erik1925 on March 01, 2015, 01:38:37 PM
Such a cool image.. and the size has to be breathtaking, too.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/war/apocalypse-now-united-artists-1979-japanese-poster-405-x-57-war/a/161509-51020.s

And from the distinct fold pattern/lines, it looks to be the one that was sold, literally year ago today, for $382 (inc the BP):

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/war/apocalypse-now-united-artists-1979-japanese-poster-405-x-57-/a/161409-51033.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-PreviousPricesHeritage-081514
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 01, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Terrible condition though... folds could be fixed, but not the fading. 
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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 01, 2015, 02:44:41 PM
someone's making a move in your honor Matt...

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/vintagevick/Untitled_zpswaplq3cc.png)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3776833
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on March 01, 2015, 02:50:52 PM
That This Gun For Hire poster is so cool. Love to own that but 11k is out of my price range!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 01, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 01, 2015, 01:38:37 PM
Such a cool image.. and the size has to be breathtaking, too.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/war/apocalypse-now-united-artists-1979-japanese-poster-405-x-57-war/a/161509-51020.s

And from the distinct fold pattern/lines, it looks to be the one that was sold, literally year ago today, for $382 (inc the BP):

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/war/apocalypse-now-united-artists-1979-japanese-poster-405-x-57-/a/161409-51033.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-PreviousPricesHeritage-081514

where you sell has profound meaning to what you get
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Post by: jedgerley on March 01, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/crazyvickposteredge.png)

Hopefully my stuff doesn't make it in this thread :)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 01, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on March 01, 2015, 06:32:59 PM

Hopefully my stuff doesn't make it in this thread :)
haha nice spot
Was catching up on the posts and checking out your stuff - specifically looking for the clearance rack...
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Post by: jedgerley on March 01, 2015, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 01, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
haha nice spot
Was catching up on the posts and checking out your stuff - specifically looking for the clearance rack...

lol ya I hear ya.....Buy two get one free (of equal or lesser value)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 02, 2015, 12:37:52 AM
Damn...the 1931 Maltese Falcon window card is awesome....one of the best dame with a gun images...and the title font style is very neat...and what is Ricardo Cortez doing back there? ...


http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-maltese-falcon-warner-brothers-1931-window-card-14-x-22-/p/7106-57001.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-maltese-falcon-warner-brothers-1931-window-card-14-x-22-/p/7106-57001.s)

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Post by: erik1925 on March 02, 2015, 03:18:50 AM
There was this same '31 MF WC on ebay a while back..

I wonder if this is the same copy?  dontknow.gif
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Post by: Ari on March 02, 2015, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 28, 2015, 04:49:20 AM
So Ari......Uhm. ..which type of poster luv collectorsh am I...? ...and will i ever get my (:&**^$#) dream poster? :D




you I believe STARTED the right way.
You dont buy everything with even a slight amount of interest.
You know what you want, and what you can afford from the get go.
THATS what others either grow into, or if they dont, they crash and burn.

See you in 50 years, and you WILL get "that" poster, really.
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Post by: Neo on March 02, 2015, 10:38:39 PM
That's wise advice, Ari.

I was reading something a few days ago, where Eric Clapton mentioned how he gets into collecting different things, in this case he's talking about firearms: “It is following the same pattern as when I collected guitars,” he says. “I get obsessed, then engulfed and finally narrow the collection down.”
source: http://gunssavelives.net/blog/11-pro-gun-celebrities-yes-they-do-exist/ (http://gunssavelives.net/blog/11-pro-gun-celebrities-yes-they-do-exist/)

I'm sure that a lot of people have similar stories to Mr. Clapton, with the whole "quality over quantity" idea, and of course, deciding what is most important to them.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 03, 2015, 01:36:16 PM
Quote from: Ari on March 02, 2015, 10:23:53 PM
you I believe STARTED the right way.
You dont buy everything with even a slight amount of interest.
You know what you want, and what you can afford from the get go.
THATS what others either grow into, or if they dont, they crash and burn.

See you in 50 years, and you WILL get "that" poster, really.

 :)

Blimey...50 years...can you meet me at 50 months...i want to have all my teeth when I get it ....so i can  ;D
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Post by: wonka on March 03, 2015, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on March 01, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/crazyvickposteredge.png)

Hopefully my stuff doesn't make it in this thread :)

(http://i.imgur.com/YUjACfF.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on March 03, 2015, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 03, 2015, 01:36:16 PM
:)

Blimey...50 years...can you meet me at 50 months...i want to have all my teeth when I get it ....so i can  ;D


hahah yep, I mean you will be collecting for that long,
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 01:50:46 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on February 20, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
The REAL QUESTION IS WHICH POSTER WILL NOW BE ON THE FRONT COVER OF THIS SIG CAT? There are so many to pick from the I can see the editorial team going mad.

 I will be glued to my computer, watching it live- hard life this is . I cannot wait .. :)

Quote from: erik1925 on February 20, 2015, 01:52:08 PM
I'd be willing to place a good bet that the Frankie 3 sheet will make the cover, as the centerpiece.

And maybe the LAM 3sh will share some space with it.  thumbsup.gif

Quote from: Mirosae on February 20, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Yes, you probably right. Though I would  have it all covered in Maltes (Falcon) he he

I think it will be a tough call..

Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on February 25, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
you can be sure that each marquee item will be represented, though the Frankenstein 3sh will indeed be the central item and will be the fiscal high point of the auction followed by LAM and the Falcon (most likely)

For those who threw out potentials for what posters would make HA's March 2015 Sig catalog cover... here it is. Focusing on Mae Clarke's face and draped figure works brilliantly here, imo.  clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf_zpsgqeip0gg.jpeg)

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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 04, 2015, 03:12:20 PM
Is that Frankenstein or bill cosby...   oh!!!  (too soon?)
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Post by: eatbrie on March 04, 2015, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 01:50:46 PM
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf_zpsgqeip0gg.jpeg)



Did you get it today?  Still waiting for mine.  I haven't seen any of the stuff they have for sale, so I'm excited.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 04, 2015, 04:22:11 PM
Did you get it today?  Still waiting for mine.  I haven't seen any of the stuff they have for sale, so I'm excited.

T

Nope.. nothing in the mail...

But T, take an online gander and peek ... it's a feast for the eyes...  bed1 faint2.gif notworthy.gif

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+793+794+791+792+2088+4294940287
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Heritage without questions uncovers the greatest material the market has seen over the last 13 years since they started selling posters. It makes you wonder "what's next?" and "how do they top this?"
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Post by: Mirosae on March 04, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
"How do they top this"....

Agree Rich. So have a pick...which poster will be the next biggie. . A never seen Metropolis?

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Post by: eatbrie on March 04, 2015, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Nope.. nothing in the mail...

But T, take an online gander and peek ... it's a feast for the eyes...  bed1 faint2.gif notworthy.gif

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+793+794+791+792+2088+4294940287

No, I always wait for the catalogue.  I like going through it.  I mark the posters I already own, the posters I want to buy.  I usually get it a week before the sale and I read it in the toilet.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 04, 2015, 05:55:55 PM
No, I always wait for the catalogue.  I like going through it.  I mark the posters I already own, the posters I want to buy.  I usually get it a week before the sale and I read it in the toilet.

T

You cant beat the site for the SUPER, large, hi res pics, tho...

 bed1
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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 04, 2015, 07:54:31 PM
T is old school like that.  Reading on the shitter - is there a better way to pass the... time? 
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Post by: erik1925 on March 04, 2015, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 04, 2015, 07:54:31 PM
T is old school like that.  Reading on the shitter - is there a better way to pass the... time? 

Are you REALLY sure you want that answer, Vick?

 Doh.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2015, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 04, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
"How do they top this"....

Agree Rich. So have a pick...which poster will be the next biggie. . A never seen Metropolis?

who knows Rosa.. it doesn't have to be a horror/sf item
what if an original broadside was found for the Great Rain Robbery, or a poster for the flickie "the Kiss" from 1897?
an original one sheet for Cavalcade would create some excitement in certain corners
if an original German poster for Nosferatu came up would be a real coup
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 04, 2015, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 04, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Heritage without questions uncovers the greatest material the market has seen over the last 13 years since they started selling posters. It makes you wonder "what's next?" and "how do they top this?"

So very true....And I love how they reach that reality in so many areas..its not just the spectacular Universal horror large format paper...one auction its the only Duck Soup half sheet...then its a mint set from The Golem...then its the Mad Love title card....then its the first Thin man one sheet...then the only Snow white 24 sheet...the first auctioned sets of classic short silent Keaton lobby cards...the first set of Dr. Jeckyll jumbo lobby cards...the first Public Enemy One Sheet....it's a great time to be collecting!!
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Post by: eatbrie on March 10, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 04, 2015, 07:54:31 PM
T is old school like that.  Reading on the shitter - is there a better way to pass the... time? 

Yeah!  Just got my catalog.  Now I can finally go take a shit ;)

T
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Post by: eatbrie on March 10, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Done.  That one was quick.  Some good stuff there, to be sure.  Like it has been said before, Heritage certainly has the best stuff around.

I am after 20 posters, 5 I will really go after hard.  Anyone else?

T
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Post by: Mirosae on March 10, 2015, 07:29:50 PM
Good luck bidding T.  20 is a good number. I want just one.. Though I doubt I will get it.  girly2.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 10, 2015, 07:29:50 PM
Good luck bidding T.  20 is a good number. I want just one.. Though I doubt I will get it.  girly2.gif

So anything less than 20 is what??

Chopped liver?

So sayeth the mama mia matriarch....

 ;D
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Post by: Mirosae on March 10, 2015, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 10, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
So anything less than 20 is what??

Chopped liver?

So sayeth the mama mia matriarch....

 ;D

 :-*
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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 10, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
Aside from the obvious blockbusters, my faves are the WOTW one and half sheets, Fistful of Dollars Teaser style B 1 sh (it is very cool), Lawrence of Arabia (one of my favorite films of all time), On the Waterfront 4F (check my avatar!), Both Howard Chandler Christys obviously, Bus Stop double crown which is the nicest Monroe poster i have seen in a while, Join ATS, New York Worlds Fair (the one with the lady), Affair in Trinidad, San Quentin, Flying Ace, Don Q...the empire strikes back radio promo is nice too.  I will bid on none of these except maybe for one I have not listed here for fear one of you b*stards will take it from me!
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Post by: CSM on March 10, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 10, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Done.  That one was quick.  Some good stuff there, to be sure.  Like it has been said before, Heritage certainly has the best stuff around.

I am after 20 posters, 5 I will really go after hard.  Anyone else?

T

Must be keeping up with your fiber intake
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Post by: crowzilla on March 11, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 10, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
Done.  That one was quick.  Some good stuff there, to be sure.  Like it has been said before, Heritage certainly has the best stuff around.

I am after 20 posters, 5 I will really go after hard.  Anyone else?

T

(http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/thumbsup2.gif)

This might be my longest Heritage watch list ever - and a few I will also go after very hard.
Perhaps the best all-around auction Heritage has ever put together.
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Post by: Mirosae on March 12, 2015, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 11, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
(http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/thumbsup2.gif)

This might be my longest Heritage watch list ever - and a few I will also go after very hard.
Perhaps the best all-around auction Heritage has ever put together.

Same here. I really wish i had a deeper pocket. It will be the first time I will need to keep a proper eye on the Sig Sunday auction (good news no audio there!)
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Post by: eatbrie on March 12, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 12, 2015, 05:27:53 PM
Same here. I really wish i had a deeper pocket. It will be the first time I will need to keep a proper eye on the Sig Sunday auction (good news no audio there!)

Lucky.  The bearded guy is great, but there is a woman who is so annoying I have to turn the sound off.

T
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Post by: Mirosae on March 12, 2015, 06:49:08 PM
Oh yes. I know the one. I seem to recall she did the Casablanca  insert that went for $$$$ She drove me nuts that night.

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Post by: Ari on March 14, 2015, 01:07:26 AM
http://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=3026

Extensive archive of material owned by and related to Hollywood B-movie cult figure Ed Wood, including his personally-owned and -used briefcase (Rexbill split cowhide leather, 15.5 x 12.25 x 5) and two trunks (larger measures 27.5 x 15.5 x 10; smaller Travelgard trunk measures 18 x 12.5 x 6.5); four of his leatherbound notebooks containing original candids, Plan 9 material with Wood’s notations, and news clippings; two binders of photos including original candids, on-set photos, and movie stills; some scarce signed photos; a few items signed by Wood; his set of Jail Bait lobby cards; and various other items........
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 14, 2015, 02:27:02 PM
Sometimes ...Once in a while..one comes across a poster that it is so full of life that one must stop and watch. Every inch of this paper is worth a thousand smiles. It is childhood, Saturday afternoon tv play all over again. And boy. That man was really a piece of art. girly.gif

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-3_zpsxefxidfa.jpeg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on March 14, 2015, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 14, 2015, 02:27:02 PM
Sometimes ...Once in a while..one comes across a poster that it is so full of life that one must stop and watch. Every inch of this paper is worth a thousand smiles. It is childhood, Saturday afternoon tv play all over again. And boy. That man was really a piece of art. girly.gif

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-3_zpsxefxidfa.jpeg)



I would kill for that one too. Maybe we can postpone the wedding so I could buy it..... on second though, better not ask, I like my private parts attached.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 14, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Undead on March 14, 2015, 02:54:28 PM
I would kill for that one too. Maybe we can postpone the wedding so I could buy it..... on second though, better not ask, I like my private parts attached.

LOL.. good idea, Mike.

And yes.. that is a beauty.. not even a question. His look and pose just knocks it out of the park for me, too!

 thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 14, 2015, 03:15:11 PM
Martinati at his finest, although I wouldn't mind some chicks on this poster.  Too many dudes for my taste.  Where is Olivia?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 14, 2015, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 14, 2015, 03:15:11 PM
Martinati at his finest, although I wouldn't mind some chicks on this poster.  Too many dudes for my taste.  Where is Olivia?

T

Nah, he can wear the tights on this one..no need for Olivia  :P

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 15, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Undead on March 14, 2015, 02:54:28 PM
I would kill for that one too. Maybe we can postpone the wedding so I could buy it..... on second though, better not ask, I like my private parts attached.

If John Bobbit has taught us anything it is that they can be reattached!  What kind of collector are you if not willing to go through some grafting?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 15, 2015, 04:32:09 AM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
If John Bobbit has taught us anything it is that they can be reattached![/b]  What kind of collector are you if not willing to go through some grafting?

A wise one..and one with his own couple of ...posters!


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2015, 02:44:03 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 15, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
If John Bobbit has taught us anything it is that they can be reattached!  What kind of collector are you if not willing to go through some grafting?

No pain, no gain, as the saying goes!  piratemel
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 15, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
It doesn't say ....."and no balls"..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 15, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 15, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
It doesn't say ....."and no balls"..

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on March 16, 2015, 02:24:27 AM
Well I do have a scalpel just a few feet away... Married, castrated, not much of a difference. Here goes..... Nope, can't do it. They are my best friends. We spent a lot of quality time together as teenagers.  ;D

I'll just have to wait for the E-Bay reprints to come out. Maybe I can sell a bunch of other posters to fund this one. Who will give me $5k for a BTTF mall advance and quad advance package? If I can get my refund for a no show poster from someone here that would be a very small step closer.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 16, 2015, 02:27:58 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2015, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Undead on March 16, 2015, 02:24:27 AM
Well I do have a scalpel just a few feet away... Married, castrated, not much of a difference. Here goes..... Nope, can't do it. They are my best friends. We spent a lot of quality time together as teenagers.  ;D

I'll just have to wait for the E-Bay reprints to come out. Maybe I can sell a bunch of other posters to fund this one. Who will give me $5k for a BTTF mall advance and quad advance package? If I can get my refund for a no show poster from someone here that would be a very small step closer.

Come on, Mike.. you did restoration.

That would be an easy fix for you.

 >:D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on March 16, 2015, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 14, 2015, 02:27:02 PM
Sometimes ...Once in a while..one comes across a poster that it is so full of life that one must stop and watch. Every inch of this paper is worth a thousand smiles. It is childhood, Saturday afternoon tv play all over again. And boy. That man was really a piece of art. girly.gif

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-3_zpsxefxidfa.jpeg)



Hear, hear.
cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Here's a question.

I noticed that on Bruce's auctions, there are ALWAYS people opening the bidding with very low bids for posters that everyone knows will go for way, way more.  And then they don't bid again.

Look at these recent examples...


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7612/16697519968_b7cf6ba048_b.jpg)(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8716/16699004659_193be45fc4_b.jpg)


Does thelarman really believe he can get this poster for $25?


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7638/16883954312_c02f9b7318_b.jpg)(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8702/16697738600_647ae50995_b.jpg)


Is $5 enough Ca492345?


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8741/16884017882_8f11b6b1f0_b.jpg)(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16884018212_83fc7afea7_b.jpg)


$9 for a rolled Animal House, Warsaw?  Sign me in.



I mean, are these people all newbies, or is there something else at play here?  Notice that they never bid again, so this is what they think they will get the posters for.  All you have to do is check Bruce's past auctions prices to realize that there is no way in hell you will get these posters for that price, so why even bother.  I think all of us would at the very least bid $200 on these posters.  Maybe $1,000 on the Bardot.  That would be my opening bid.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 21, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
All I know is Warsaw usually beats me up in several items I am interested in. That bastard has good taste.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2015, 07:27:46 PM
YOU GUYS BITCH WHEN YOU THINK SOMEONE PAYS TOO MUCH
YOU BITCH WHEN YOU THINK SOMEONE BIDS TOO LITTLE

WILL YOU EVER BE HAPPY WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO??????

 devil 2
 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2015, 07:27:46 PM
YOU GUYS BITCH WHEN YOU THINK SOMEONE PAYS TOO MUCH
YOU BITCH WHEN YOU THINK SOMEONE BIDS TOO LITTLE

WILL YOU EVER BE HAPPY WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO??????

 devil 2
 ;D

I think Bruce does an amazing job at selling posters and that's why he is #1.

Am I bitching now?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2015, 08:19:27 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
I think Bruce does an amazing job at selling posters and that's why he is #$%^#@&!.

Am I bitching now?

Ratings are all a matter of opinion or can differ based on criterian variance

in any case, I still have a bigger & better collection than you do

sucka!

 :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
I will do exactly that sometimes, to avoid maxing out the number of items ebay and/or EMP will let you add to your watch list.  Seeing as you're allowed bidding on as many as you want, it acts as an extended watch list. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on March 21, 2015, 09:05:01 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
I will do exactly that sometimes, to avoid maxing out the number of items ebay and/or EMP will let you add to your watch list.  Seeing as you're allowed bidding on as many as you want, it acts as an extended watch list. 

Same thing here.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 09:08:04 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
I will do exactly that sometimes, to avoid maxing out the number of items ebay and/or EMP will let you add to your watch list.  Seeing as you're allowed bidding on as many as you want, it acts as an extended watch list. 

Interesting.  You know Emovie has a watch list too, right?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 09:08:04 PM
Interesting.  You know Emovie has a watch list too, right?
Yup, and it has a limit... I think 200 items? 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 21, 2015, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:01:56 PM
I will do exactly that sometimes, to avoid maxing out the number of items ebay and/or EMP will let you add to your watch list.  Seeing as you're allowed bidding on as many as you want, it acts as an extended watch list. 

Exactly (although I do not practice this method)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2015, 10:41:05 PM
Goldilocks said she didn't like the first poster because "it was priced too high".. so she put this one back and tried another and she said "this one is priced too low"
finally she tried the third one and she said "this poster is priced just right"

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/goldilocks.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 21, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
And then...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Goldilocks_and_the_3_bears.jpg/300px-Goldilocks_and_the_3_bears.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 22, 2015, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 21, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
Yup, and it has a limit... I think 200 items? 

Wow, I don't think I've ever wanted 200 items from Bruce at a time.  20-30 max.  So when it goes above 200, you just bid on stuff or you don't even bother and just bid?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 22, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 22, 2015, 01:25:41 AM
Wow, I don't think I've ever wanted 200 items from Bruce at a time.  20-30 max.  So when it goes above 200, you just bid on stuff or you don't even bother and just bid?

T
Not necessarily to bid on all of them, some just curious to see how they do, others I may have consigned.  As for thelarman, Ca492345 etc...maybe they just like being able to say "yeah I was in on that bardot..."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 22, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Re: very low early bids

I'm guilty. I did that once. I placed a bid on  auction which I won for a lesser bid. I bid my savings on another poster. It was a very low bid. Didnt expect to win. But won. Paul Newman for peanuts.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 22, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Btw, what's the deal with a 200 want list limit?  200 out 1,000?  Seems a little low, no?  Shouldn't you be able to check as many items as you want?  Is HA the same?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 22, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 22, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Btw, what's the deal with a 200 want list limit?  200 out 1,000?  Seems a little low, no?  Shouldn't you be able to check as many items as you want?  Is HA the same?

T
200 out of 3000 really as it would be for Tues, Thurs and Sunday auctions...
I don't know why, maybe Rich has some insights on the tech end... Maybe they want you to bid after 200 "watched"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on March 22, 2015, 11:01:17 PM
I don't think anyone will be angry about outing this one. I just wanted to share as it is one of the more amazing resto jobs I have ever seen on a Star Wars Birthday poster. Looks like it was done by you know who from Brooklyn. Actually I would expect more from even him.

Star Wars Birthday One Sheet Poster (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=301571370496&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2015, 11:41:03 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 22, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
200 out of 3000 really as it would be for Tues, Thurs and Sunday auctions...
I don't know why, maybe Rich has some insights on the tech end... Maybe they want you to bid after 200 "watched"


realistically, you have to be nearly insane to be watching 200 items currently running in any auction. ergo - the lack of a need for more than 200 items

 imbecile.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 23, 2015, 11:05:34 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2015, 11:41:03 PM
realistically, you have to be nearly insane to be watching 200 items currently running in any auction. ergo - the lack of a need for more than 200 items
 imbecile.gif
Insane, no... crazy yes
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on March 23, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: Undead on March 22, 2015, 11:01:17 PM
I don't think anyone will be angry about outing this one. I just wanted to share as it is one of the more amazing resto jobs I have ever seen on a Star Wars Birthday poster. Looks like it was done by you know who from Brooklyn. Actually I would expect more from even him.

Star Wars Birthday One Sheet Poster (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=301571370496&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)


"Poster has had minor restoration. Satisfaction guaranteed!"   eyeroll

It does look similar to the unrestored copy Matias had and sold to help bring his spawn into this world... 

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on March 23, 2015, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 23, 2015, 11:39:52 AM

It does look similar to the unrestored copy Matias had and sold to help bring his spawn into this world... 



I thought the same thing when I saw it...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 23, 2015, 01:57:21 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 23, 2015, 11:39:52 AM

"Poster has had minor restoration. Satisfaction guaranteed!"   eyeroll




"Minor restoration" (???)  Is that what you kids call it these days?  I think it looks awful.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 23, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
Gotta love those "fold touch ups."

Flawless!

I can think of a couple folks that might do such work, too.

 faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 23, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 23, 2015, 11:39:52 AM

"Poster has had minor restoration. Satisfaction guaranteed!"   eyeroll

It does look similar to the unrestored copy Matias had and sold to help bring his spawn into this world... 



The one I sold gave me a guaranteed satisfaction!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on March 24, 2015, 04:30:36 AM
There are some interesting and strange smaller format posters on the block this weekend...

This was a risky movie for the time....If you like Pre-code Barbara Stanwyck ...well then this might be your cup of tea

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-bitter-tea-of-general-yen-columbia-1933-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86118.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-bitter-tea-of-general-yen-columbia-1933-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86118.s)

I'm not sure what to think of this one...the cop and the ghost!!

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/mystery/the-ghost-walks-chesterfield-1934-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86667.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/mystery/the-ghost-walks-chesterfield-1934-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86667.s)

And the eyebrow raising tag line on this poster...."son devouring mother love"?..change the inflection and look at the "threesome" graphic!!
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-silver-cord-rko-1933-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86142.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-silver-cord-rko-1933-half-sheet-22-x-28-/a/7106-86142.s)


Veronica Lake doing her Peek-A-boo debut....while holding an armful of airmen?!

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/war/i-wanted-wings-paramount-1941-insert-14-x-36-/a/7106-86851.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/war/i-wanted-wings-paramount-1941-insert-14-x-36-/a/7106-86851.s)


And a shadowy Lucille Ball....on a film Noir British quad?!

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-dark-corner-20th-century-fox-1946-british-quad-30-x-40-/a/7106-86009.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-dark-corner-20th-century-fox-1946-british-quad-30-x-40-/a/7106-86009.s)

Another eccentric selection at Heritage!!








Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 24, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
Re- Bitter Tea - I like the film, not sure about the poster. Not my cup of tea really  :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 24, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on March 23, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
The one I sold gave me a guaranteed satisfaction!!!

Haha..  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 24, 2015, 08:10:30 PM
Fascinating...

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8690/16921569085_b54bec3ede_b.jpg)
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8743/16299173334_5d7767bed7_b.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on March 24, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
ePower!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 24, 2015, 10:07:06 PM
Someone is definitely gathering a Titanic collection. Someone paid $284 for an argentinean poster for the same film on 10/16/2014
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 25, 2015, 10:44:03 AM
i just realized that when you bid on EMP, it automatically adds the item to your watch list, as opposed to ebay where they are seperate. 

So my system no longer works with EMP - if you have to cap you user's watch list to 200, so be it, but I can't help you. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 27, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Re scifi 50s genre, WOTW has to be one of the most poignant, creepy and all around underrated concepts around.  

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F3%2F7%2F2%2F12372151%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 28, 2015, 06:28:22 AM
Do you think is underrated? Never thought about that. ...Uhm. . I think the poster and script / story are both top class.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 28, 2015, 10:37:56 AM
What makes you think it is underrated?  When a poster continuously sells for $2-3k, I don't think it is that underrated.

T

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2015, 12:38:23 PM
This has never been an underrated poster image either, and, as T said, always sells for a nice penny whenever it comes up. The image is iconic, almost.

Why are you suggesting that, Vick? dontknow.gif

Let alone that you are saying it is one of the Most underrated of poster images. 

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 28, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
sorry.  Maybe under-appreciated is a better word.  It doesn't seem to sell as high as the flashier concepts, like the saucer men, forbidden planet etc... but it speaks so much louder as horror art. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2015, 04:57:32 PM
it's a mostly ugly poster. It needed more color and larger planets
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 28, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 28, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
sorry.  Maybe under-appreciated is a better word.  It doesn't seem to sell as high as the flashier concepts, like the saucer men, forbidden planet etc... but it speaks so much louder as horror art.  

I own a 3sht of the art, which I think works really well with the arm coming down.

But I still love the French by Soubie so much more.  Also, it is rarer and the colors are stunning in person.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7635/16957984061_0f36573037_c.jpg)(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7626/16932963556_73e2de191c_b.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on March 28, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2015, 04:57:32 PM
it's a mostly ugly poster. It needed more color and larger planets
See my comment about it being under-appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 28, 2015, 05:41:42 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on March 28, 2015, 05:35:14 PM
See my comment about it being under-appreciated ;)

Do you really value what Rich has to say?  About posters, at least?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2015, 05:48:41 PM
in a jungle of great 50's sci-fi posters, many of which go for way less than WOTW, that poster just doesn't cut it and it's always been that way.
as a result, people always opted to get others first & WOTW when it was one of the final holes to fill. The fact that the HS and the posters from other countries absolutely kill it has never helped..

I mean look.. even that French poster is better.. so T actually does have one cool poster in his collection
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 31, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
who wants to buy a million bucks for just $499??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-International-Check-1-Million-Dollars-to-Yvonne-De-Carlo-April-1947-/291420411165?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43da02951d
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Post by: marklawd on March 31, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
An April Fool joke in 1947?

Mark
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 31, 2015, 08:02:50 PM
Yvonne De Carlo was big by then Mark and I suggest this is a signing bonus for her new contract that began around that date
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Post by: brude on March 31, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 21, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Here's a question.

I noticed that on Bruce's auctions, there are ALWAYS people opening the bidding with very low bids for posters that everyone knows will go for way, way more.  And then they don't bid again.

I mean, are these people all newbies, or is there something else at play here?  Notice that they never bid again, so this is what they think they will get the posters for.  All you have to do is check Bruce's past auctions prices to realize that there is no way in hell you will get these posters for that price, so why even bother.  I think all of us would at the very least bid $200 on these posters.  Maybe $1,000 on the Bardot.  That would be my opening bid.

T

I am guilty of this from time to time.
When I know an original Frankenstein or King Kong is coming to auction and I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, I place an early bid just so I can say I tried.
Then I brag to the kids in the neighborhood that I was the underbidder on the big one.
This gives me juice in the 'hood.
 cheers
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Post by: eatbrie on March 31, 2015, 10:05:34 PM
Quote from: brude on March 31, 2015, 09:46:50 PM
I am guilty of this from time to time.
When I know an original Frankenstein or King Kong is coming to auction and I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, I place an early bid just so I can say I tried.
Then I brag to the kids in the neighborhood that I was the underbidder on the big one.
This gives me juice in the 'hood.
 cheers

Great fucking answer.  If only you could be this witty all the time!

 cheers cheers cheers

T
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Post by: CSM on March 31, 2015, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: marklawd on March 31, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
An April Fool joke in 1947?

Mark

Hard to believe she was truly paid the equivalent of $10 million (in today's cash) but I guess it is possible.  I read somewhere that Bogart was making about $500,000 per year (in 1940s $) at the height of his career...
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Post by: Mirosae on April 02, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
I wonder if this is Mel's collection...Bruce's April mini auction....


 http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1 (http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1)
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Post by: jayn_j on April 02, 2015, 10:05:57 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 02, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
I wonder if this is Mel's collection...Bruce's April mini auction....


 http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1 (http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1)

There may be some Mel items in there, but there is stuff in there Mel didn't collect, and visa versa.
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Post by: Charlie on April 02, 2015, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 02, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
I wonder if this is Mel's collection...Bruce's April mini auction....


 http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1 (http://www.emovieposter.com/online/previews/2015april/parti/?p=1)

I would say none are his.  He had a backed Seven Year itch that I saw in person and the one listed (compared to his that saw a Poster Mountain resto) is not very good.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 02, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
Have a look at this beauty!  Maybe it's a rare duo-tone printing  ;)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150405/200/et_the_extra_terrestrial_advance_linen_BM03681_C.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on April 02, 2015, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 02, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
Have a look at this beauty!  Maybe it's a rare duo-tone printing  ;)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150405/200/et_the_extra_terrestrial_advance_linen_BM03681_C.jpg)

 Doh.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2015, 12:42:13 PM
"Let the sun in.

Let the sunshine in ---- the sunshine in."

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Post by: eatbrie on April 02, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
I kinda like it.
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Post by: 110x75 on April 02, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
This belongs on the right of Bob Brook's one.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 02, 2015, 06:45:55 PM
does anyone have a spare $30k laying around..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1977-Rabid-MGM-Commercial-TV-Spot-Film-Reel-Test-/221732738036?hash=item33a04d13f4
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 02, 2015, 06:45:55 PM
does anyone have a spare $30k laying around..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-1977-Rabid-MGM-Commercial-TV-Spot-Film-Reel-Test-/221732738036?hash=item33a04d13f4

$30K for maybe a 5.00 item (on a good day)...  :P

imbecile.gif
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Post by: kovacs01 on April 02, 2015, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 02, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
$30K for maybe a 5.00 item (on a good day)...  :P

imbecile.gif

Decimal point location location disease.  Might be an incurable case.
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Post by: Ari on April 04, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
Quote from: CSM on March 31, 2015, 10:37:44 PM
Hard to believe she was truly paid the equivalent of $10 million (in today's cash) but I guess it is possible.  I read somewhere that Bogart was making about $500,000 per year (in 1940s $) at the height of his career...

Looks like I am visiting, possibly staying with her son in Santa barbara in a couple of months, I will ask him, but I smell foul.

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Post by: CSM on April 04, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 04, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
Looks like I am visiting, possibly staying with her son in Santa barbara in a couple of months, I will ask him, but I smell foul.



Ok expand oh great wanderer...
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Post by: Ari on April 05, 2015, 05:04:31 AM
my travel companion is friends with him and she said he invited us to stay, thats all I know.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 05, 2015, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 04, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
I will ask him, but I smell foul.
Re Toronto., you're gonna fit right in ...
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on April 05, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
Love this Third Man image.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150407/german_a1_third_man_linen_SD01706_C.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 05, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 04, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
Looks like I am visiting, possibly staying with her son in Santa barbara in a couple of months, I will ask him, but I smell foul.



that's Bruce right? I met him a couple times, once at the Profiles auction of Collectors Book Store. He's a nice guy.
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Post by: Ari on April 05, 2015, 08:08:41 PM
Yeah I think so, I'm just along for the ride on that part, Yvonne de Carlo is my friends favourite actress, and is in the loop on it all.

That ET, yeah send it to bobs restorer, it needs a little britening up.
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Post by: CSM on April 05, 2015, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: Ari on April 05, 2015, 05:04:31 AM
my travel companion is friends with him and she said he invited us to stay, thats all I know.

It's all about who you know
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on April 07, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
I see that ma500969 is the highest bidder on the top six items on Bruce's special April auction. That guy has some serious cash! He's buying all the 10's and 20's posters.
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Post by: Mirosae on April 07, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on April 07, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
I see that ma500969 is the highest bidder on the top six items on Bruce's special April auction. That guy has some serious cash! He's buying all the 10's and 20's posters.

Yes..he is in my black list...  moron1
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Post by: erik1925 on April 07, 2015, 05:09:24 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on April 07, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
I see that ma500969 is the highest bidder on the top six items on Bruce's special April auction. That guy has some serious cash! He's buying all the 10's and 20's posters.

Whoever he is... all i can say is Congrats to him! Have cash will travel.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: oldposterho on April 07, 2015, 08:37:31 PM
The urge to soak him/her on general principal is certainly growing.

--Peter
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Post by: Mirosae on April 08, 2015, 05:08:15 AM
Quote from: oldposterho on April 07, 2015, 08:37:31 PM
The urge to soak him/her on general principal is certainly growing.

--Peter

Agree. S/he  is like a vacuum cleaner.

My only hope is that already won the poster i want. So s/he won't be bidding for it again... i lost it..once....moron1
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Post by: 50s on April 08, 2015, 05:19:27 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 07, 2015, 05:09:24 PM
Whoever he is... all i can say is Congrats to him! Have cash will travel.  thumbsup.gif


Is it you Jeff, enjoy your soon to be acquisitions!!!


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Post by: Mirosae on April 09, 2015, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on April 07, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
I see that ma500969 is the highest bidder on the top six items on Bruce's special April auction. That guy has some serious cash! He's buying all the 10's and 20's posters.

So far looks like s/he is buying 20 posters. I don't know how people manage to keep up bidding for 20 posters at once...

Uhmm
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Post by: erik1925 on April 09, 2015, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 08, 2015, 05:19:27 AM

Is it you Jeff, enjoy your soon to be acquisitions!!!




Not me, Steve..but whoever it is.. if they have the cash, the fortitude and desire to want and win.. that's all that matters, right? (And is what that person is doing). And whoever this is, they are putting one hell of a nice collection together, that's for sure.

So again, i say, a big congrats to whoever it might be.  cheers
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Post by: CSM on April 11, 2015, 01:21:38 AM
Description in this one is GREAT!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Dracula-Movie-Picture-11-x-14-/221732123475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a043b353

As stated, this picture is in terrible condition. The D+ rating has been given because it has every conceivable type of damage possible to printed media EXCEPT the following:

    pet urine/feces*
    fire damage
    teeth marks
    mold
    water damage
    tire marks
    food/saliva stains (evidence of licking)*
    Folds

*not guaranteed

In other words, when you place the winning bid for this item, you will be purchasing a picture with approximately seventeen (17) pin holes; forty-two (42) wrinkles; three (3) tiny tears; eight (5) eddies; fading; yellowing; water (or urine) stains; cardboard backing (adhered); missing bits (upper left); handwriting (bottom); raggedy edges.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2015, 01:29:55 AM
I like the hand written info in both the bottom corners!  happy1
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Post by: Mirosae on April 11, 2015, 05:47:58 AM
Quote from: CSM on April 11, 2015, 01:21:38 AM
Description in this one is GREAT!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Dracula-Movie-Picture-11-x-14-/221732123475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a043b353

As stated, this picture is in terrible condition. The D+ rating has been given because it has every conceivable type of damage possible to printed media EXCEPT the following:

    pet urine/feces*
    fire damage
    teeth marks
    mold
    water damage
    tire marks
    food/saliva stains (evidence of licking)*
    Folds

*not guaranteed

In other words, when you place the winning bid for this item, you will be purchasing a picture with approximately seventeen (17) pin holes; forty-two (42) wrinkles; three (3) tiny tears; eight (5) eddies; fading; yellowing; water (or urine) stains; cardboard backing (adhered); missing bits (upper left); handwriting (bottom); raggedy edges.

Thank you Chris for sharing. Best reading ever..better than War and Peace!!

 ;D
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Post by: Simes on April 11, 2015, 06:10:01 AM
Brilliant.

She does have a way with words...
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on April 11, 2015, 07:24:01 AM
That's a great description. Love it!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2015, 02:24:59 PM
$11,611.00 with 5+ hours to go!!

Mama mia!

 thumbsup.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3825859

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150409/550/6sh_iron_horse_linen_SD01789_C_reshoot_C.jpg)
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Post by: ddilts399 on April 16, 2015, 04:08:36 PM
Thanks for outing the 6 sheet guys  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2015, 04:12:06 PM
 GoOn.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2015, 07:00:28 PM
Will it hold at $12,700.00 with 1+ hrs til tee-time?

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Post by: eatbrie on April 16, 2015, 07:06:22 PM
This, I think, is the best art on the movie.  Nistri is awesome.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7609/16549482904_e1a406afea_b.jpg)

So glad I already own a mint folded version, because I would for sure go for it.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8818/16551777763_010ac0a7ed_c.jpg)

I wonder why mine has more blue in it.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
And this Carfagni imagery on this 2F of Marlene Dietrich for Flame of New Orleans is also very nice. Currently at $1600.00

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150409/550/italian_1p_flame_of_new_orleans_linen_BM03766_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3825984


Them Italians do some fine work...   notworthy.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2015, 07:46:02 PM
Beautiful color and graphics of Warner Oland as Charlie Chan on this 3 sheet!  bed1

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150409/550/3sh_charlie_chan_on_broadway_linen_BM03829_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3825875
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Post by: 50s on April 17, 2015, 05:22:40 AM
Oh Bruce, your large sized posters auction this week is grrrrreat!


PS, there is an unaccounted for arm in this one, or am I over analyzing it?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150416/550/italian_1p_pornografia_proibita_BM03838_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3834174)

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Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2015, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: 50s on April 17, 2015, 05:22:40 AM
Oh Bruce, your large sized posters auction this week is grrrrreat!


PS, there is an unaccounted for arm in this one, or am I over analyzing it?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150416/550/italian_1p_pornografia_proibita_BM03838_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3834174)



That arm sure in "unaccounted for," Steve. 

We probably need to watch the flicker to see who it belongs to (or perhaps it is disembodied).   ;D
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 17, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
Just viewed all those Italian 2Fs on EMP... so so naughty! 

Two sheets? More like "change the sheets"  ;)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 17, 2015, 03:19:12 PM
This is a cool poster, not rare, but actually somewhat hard to find in the "more production" series, at $199.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyMFg3MjU=/z/qK8AAOxycD9TTdWU/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251918626203?rmvSB=true
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Post by: Mirosae on April 17, 2015, 03:33:14 PM
Very nice!
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Post by: Tob on April 17, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251923047451

Beware...

Seller is listing it in the repro category, but I imagine someone somewhere down the line will try and pass it off as real.
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 17, 2015, 04:09:42 PM
Quote from: Tob on April 17, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251923047451

Beware...

Seller is listing it in the repro category, but I imagine someone somewhere down the line will try and pass it off as real.

Yikes.  Paul pointed those NOES's out to me as well...

 hertfordshirecomputerservices Sold Items (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/hertfordshirecomputerservices/m.html?item=251923047451&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)
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Post by: Undead on April 17, 2015, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: Tob on April 17, 2015, 03:40:48 PM
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251923047451

Beware...

Seller is listing it in the repro category, but I imagine someone somewhere down the line will try and pass it off as real.

Thanks for posting. Another one to analyze for differences so peop0le can be shown how to tell the difference.
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Post by: CSM on April 18, 2015, 12:01:19 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 16, 2015, 07:06:22 PM
This, I think, is the best art on the movie.  Nistri is awesome.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7609/16549482904_e1a406afea_b.jpg)

So glad I already own a mint folded version, because I would for sure go for it.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8818/16551777763_010ac0a7ed_c.jpg)

I wonder why mine has more blue in it.

T

If that is actually a pic of your poster Thierry I certainly would be hesitant to use the word 'mint' to grade it :/
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Post by: brude on April 18, 2015, 01:01:40 AM
By Italian poster standards, that's as mint as it gets.
Those things fall apart just by looking at them.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
So true, Ted.

Acid burn... especially at fold creases..the bane of Italian and French paper everywhere.  crying

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Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2015, 04:15:09 AM
Do be aware anyone bidding on this, First release quads on this title actually measure 31"x41"  The seller states 30x40, so a later release, or worse a repro.

I have emailed the fellow, also asking what the paper was like, but he is reluctant to get back in touch with me! 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381221146977?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Post by: Mirosae on April 18, 2015, 04:28:42 AM
Well spotted Paul! It does look pretty original to me, if this is a repro thry did a good job..Maybe he is checking the size again. Hope you get a response!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2015, 04:45:08 PM
More "phony baloney" here... this seller has listed this before, as original, too.  eyeroll

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-ORIGINAL-B-W-HOUND-OF-THE-BASKERVILLES-SHERLOCK-HOLMES-BASIL-EXCELLENT-COND-/281663862503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41947976e7
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Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2015, 05:27:25 PM
Truly a looker here.

Mexican posters can certainly hit the mark (and they do often), as this one does by artist, Espert .  bed1

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150412/550/mexican_dona_diabla_HN02568_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3826576
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Post by: Mirosae on April 19, 2015, 05:35:40 AM
I think the artist you arereally admiring there is not called Espert. Read again ;)

She was an incredible  woman. What a brain.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
Both are admired... certainly.

And the artist captured her beautifully.
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Post by: Zorba on April 19, 2015, 10:49:06 PM
I only see her eyes. mmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 22, 2015, 03:22:47 PM
Whoever is paying $290 for this poster, which is not even nice or in great shape, is nuts.    

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTQ4/z/7f0AAOSw-7RVDcfs/$_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141643027129?rmvSB=true
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Post by: Harry Caul on April 22, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
NEWS FLASH: Paper collector ridicules other paper collector. Film at 11.

Other than being folded (which is how they were distributed IIRC) it looks to be in quite nice shape. It's also square in the ballpark of past auctions. Now if it's just not to your tastes....

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/AVENGE%2520DECEMBER%25207/archive.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 22, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 18, 2015, 04:45:08 PM
More "phony baloney" here... this seller has listed this before, as original, too.  eyeroll

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-ORIGINAL-B-W-HOUND-OF-THE-BASKERVILLES-SHERLOCK-HOLMES-BASIL-EXCELLENT-COND-/281663862503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41947976e7

I believe this is a 1970s release poster for actual showings
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 22, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 22, 2015, 05:01:32 PM
I believe this is a 1970s release poster for actual showings

Thanks, Rich.

In the past, i had written this seller, mentioning that this was not a first release poster. I never got a reply back, but the auctions have always continued, advertised as such.  eyeroll
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on April 22, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
It's very small at 18.5x 12.5...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on April 22, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 22, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
NEWS FLASH: Paper collector ridicules other paper collector. Film at 11.

Other than being folded (which is how they were distributed IIRC) it looks to be in quite nice shape. It's also square in the ballpark of past auctions. Now if it's just not to your tastes....

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/AVENGE%2520DECEMBER%25207/archive.html

 rofl1

 thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 22, 2015, 05:25:16 PM
Quote from: paul waines on April 22, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
It's very small at 18.5x 12.5...

And even when that (the size) was pointed out to the seller... it made no difference, Paul.

Some people see what they want to see..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 22, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on April 22, 2015, 04:12:40 PM
NEWS FLASH: Paper collector ridicules other paper collector. Film at 11.

Other than being folded (which is how they were distributed IIRC) it looks to be in quite nice shape. It's also square in the ballpark of past auctions. Now if it's just not to your tastes....

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/AVENGE%2520DECEMBER%25207/archive.html
Ya like EMP is a good gauge for actual value!  Its a very common poster that you can get for a fraction of that price, yes, folded, but without tears in the folds.  I over paid for several posters when I started collecting that I see constantly circulate for pennies.
Must be a slow newsday in your town Matt  ;) :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 23, 2015, 04:53:14 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 22, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
I over paid for several posters when I started collecting that I see constantly circulate for pennies.
Must be a slow newsday in your town Matt  ;) :)

Overpay!? I'm sure we all have done that. I still hold the World Record and Olympic Record on overpaying. And cannot care less. Still enjoy them.   :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on April 23, 2015, 11:16:18 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 23, 2015, 04:53:14 AM
Overpay!? I'm sure we all have done that. I still hold the World Record and Olympic Record on overpaying. And cannot care less. Still enjoy them.   :)


That is why I try to never buy from HA not that it works. Seems I like to set records for most ever paid for an item.  :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: Undead on April 23, 2015, 11:16:18 AM
That is why I try to never buy from HA not that it works. Seems I like to set records for most ever paid for an item.  :(

 hmmm.gif Fascinating, Captain.

But unlike many, you have the eye, that often leads you to either the gems/diamonds (in the rough) and more often those that are "clean."  thumbsup.gif

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 22, 2015, 06:59:22 PM
Ya like EMP is a good gauge for actual value!  Its a very common poster that you can get for a fraction of that price, yes, folded, but without tears in the folds.  I over paid for several posters when I started collecting that I see constantly circulate for pennies.
Must be a slow newsday in your town Matt  ;) :)


Vick,

Looking back, what previous title/poster that you bought, most stands out in your mind, as one you overpaid for?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 01:06:44 PM
Currently in the lead on emovie, ($1273), it will be interesting to see how this piece does, or if the Psycho 6sh will pull into the lead in the final hours today. (Psycho is currently at $1110). But Jane may also give a run for the money, too. She's not one to go down without a fight!

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150416/550/italian_4p_night_to_remember_BM03843_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3833280

Looking at this poster/lack of many actor's credits, aside from Kenneth More's name, one might also ponder it was a possible, later RR, but according to emovie, it is for the initial release.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 23, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 12:42:37 PM

Vick,

Looking back, what previous title/poster that you bought, most stands out in your mind, as one you overpaid for?


God where do I begin...! As I started collecting propaganda posters I took a hit on several of those (I need to buy this now it will NEVER come up again right), not being the saavy collector I am today (hehe). I made several "god I'm addicted" purchases a couple of years ago which I now see time and time again sell for a fraction.  What with getting ripped on shipping -also, wasn't as saavy on that end- it was salt into the wound thing.  Now I haggle with just about everyone.  I once bought 5 posters from a guy and paid around 160 in shipping - he had prepackaged so he taped 5 tubes together!  Canada customs also killed me with a painful import charge that should not have been even there if it had been 1 tube!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 01:47:31 PM
Sounds like you have had your share, Vick.

But you are still at it, and, as you said, have become more savvy in your buying, looking, researching and conquering! LOL

Keep on truckin'

It all pays off in the end!

 thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 23, 2015, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: Undead on April 23, 2015, 11:16:18 AM
That is why I try to never buy from HA not that it works. Seems I like to set records for most ever paid for an item.  :(

Maaaaaaaan  but look at your SW collection. .all worth it. I'm sure!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on April 23, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 23, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
God where do I begin...! As I started collecting propaganda posters I took a hit on several of those (I need to buy this now it will NEVER come up again right), not being the saavy collector I am today (hehe). I made several "god I'm addicted" purchases a couple of years ago which I now see time and time again sell for a fraction.  What with getting ripped on shipping -also, wasn't as saavy on that end- it was salt into the wound thing.  Now I haggle with just about everyone.  I once bought 5 posters from a guy and paid around 160 in shipping - he had prepackaged so he taped 5 tubes together!  Canada customs also killed me with a painful import charge that should not have been even there if it had been 1 tube!

I think we have all gone through this phase to one degree or another and hopefully learned from our mistakes. Unlike motocross where it is if in doubt gas it, if I am in doubt on posters I will let off the gas. With rare exception it has been the right decision in the end. The biggest thing I learned is research everything I buy before hand and if I am unsure ask someone from here who specializes in that area. Your odds of coming out OK are much higher that way. It's like with me and Star Wars. I have several people who will ask my opinion on pieces before buying and I always do my best to give the the best educated response I can. If I can't I try to direct them to someone who can if at all possible. Many of the know it alls here are the same way thankfully and I for one am grateful of that. A big thumbs up to everyone on that end!  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 23, 2015, 10:37:28 PM
Quote from: Undead on April 23, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
I think we have all gone through this phase to one degree or another and hopefully learned from our mistakes. Unlike motocross where it is if in doubt gas it, if I am in doubt on posters I will let off the gas. With rare exception it has been the right decision in the end. The biggest thing I learned is research everything I buy before hand and if I am unsure ask someone from here who specializes in that area. Your odds of coming out OK are much higher that way. It's like with me and Star Wars. I have several people who will ask my opinion on pieces before buying and I always do my best to give the the best educated response I can. If I can't I try to direct them to someone who can if at all possible. Many of the know it alls here are the same way thankfully and I for one am grateful of that. A big thumbs up to everyone on that end!  thumbsup.gif

I hear you.  This place, and my perusing thousands of webpages, has saved me boatloads.

But can you imagine getting 5 tubes fecking taped together?  "Hey honey, a pentagon came in the mail for you"  I guess you could say it was a turning point in my life, because after that i seriously started questioning everything/everyone.   faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on April 23, 2015, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 23, 2015, 10:37:28 PM

But can you imagine getting 5 tubes fecking taped together?  "Hey honey, a pentagon came in the mail for you"  I guess you could say it was a turning point in my life, because after that i seriously started questioning everything/everyone.   faint2.gif

That is a conversation I wish I had witnessed!

(http://www.aperfectworld.org/clipart/shapes/pinkpentagon11.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 23, 2015, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: Undead on April 23, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
I think we have all gone through this phase to one degree or another and hopefully learned from our mistakes. Unlike motocross where it is if in doubt gas it, if I am in doubt on posters I will let off the gas. With rare exception it has been the right decision in the end. The biggest thing I learned is research everything I buy before hand and if I am unsure ask someone from here who specializes in that area. Your odds of coming out OK are much higher that way. It's like with me and Star Wars. I have several people who will ask my opinion on pieces before buying and I always do my best to give the the best educated response I can. If I can't I try to direct them to someone who can if at all possible. Many of the know it alls here are the same way thankfully and I for one am grateful of that. A big thumbs up to everyone on that end!  thumbsup.gif

Well said and so true, Mike.

And its good to know there are those, like you here, that are willing to help, guide and direct, if need be.  sm1


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 24, 2015, 04:11:21 AM
Quote from: Undead on April 23, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
I have several people who will ask my opinion on pieces before buying and I always do my best to give the the best educated response I can.

I still keep your  emails Mike ! I certainly value your advice and appreciate your knowledge..and generosity. That aside I find that sharing my posters and whatever minimal knowledge i have with people who appreciate the hobby makes the whole experience a better one.. more rewarding.

As Jeff says, there are lots of good will, people on APF willing to share ..himself included ! and I think that is really something to celebrate.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 24, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 23, 2015, 10:37:28 PM
I hear you.  This place, and my perusing thousands of webpages, has saved me boatloads.

But can you imagine getting 5 tubes fecking taped together?  "Hey honey, a pentagon came in the mail for you"  I guess you could say it was a turning point in my life, because after that i seriously started questioning everything/everyone.   faint2.gif

Vick,

THAT would have made a great pic to post here... happy1

Did u save the packaging, by chance?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 24, 2015, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 24, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Did u save the packaging, by chance?
I was so green, I didn't even think of taking a picture!
This post is the only way I have been able to share my story.  So beware kids ...the "Pentagon Maniac" has his own ideas when it comes to "combined shipping" and it involves a lot of duct tape!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 25, 2015, 04:34:48 AM
Oh Vick.. that's funny...that'd sad...that's terrible. ....no wonder you are totally crazy... :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 25, 2015, 04:41:24 AM
This ebay seller is the Italian Benito. This is €18,000. Worth every penny.  :-*

 http://m.ebay.it/itm/190543747963?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.it/itm/190543747963?nav=SEARCH)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/_3_zpsg3zjtx0o.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 25, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 24, 2015, 11:11:39 PM
I was so green, I didn't even think of taking a picture!
This post is the only way I have been able to share my story.  So beware kids ...the "Pentagon Maniac" has his own ideas when it comes to "combined shipping" and it involves a lot of duct tape!

I'm sure, Vick. Its one of those things that initially probably had you looking rather  mesmrized  until you opened it, realized what the "object" contained and then, hopefully, made you say  woohoo  !!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rumble on May 06, 2015, 11:31:09 PM
If you couldn't afford the FRANKIE 3-sheet here's a little something...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-UNIVERSAL-THREE-SHEET-NEVER-OFFERED-BEFORE-/261876488795 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-UNIVERSAL-THREE-SHEET-NEVER-OFFERED-BEFORE-/261876488795)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg3ODU=/z/1MIAAOSwPhdVR-Mc/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2015, 11:39:08 PM
Offered by none other than Jim Gresham!

It's a beauty.  faint2.gif

 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 06, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 06, 2015, 11:39:08 PM
Offered by none other than Jim Gresham!

It's a beauty.  faint2.gif

 bed1

I wonder what poster he's looking to raise the money for?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2015, 11:57:52 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 06, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
I wonder what poster he's looking to raise the money for?

And with a price tag of (potentially) $40K!

I wonder.....

 hmmm.gif

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on May 07, 2015, 12:34:39 AM
Its a great freaking poster.
Wow.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 07, 2015, 01:31:15 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 06, 2015, 11:50:31 PM
I wonder what poster he's looking to raise the money for?

I can tell you it isn't a OS or 3sh.   whistle.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 07, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 07, 2015, 01:31:15 PM
I can tell you it isn't a OS or 3sh.   whistle.gif

He could probably buy 20 Invisible Man real art title cards with those proceeds ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 09, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jim ended The House Of Frank 3sh auction early.

A probable, good sign, methinks.  notworthy.gif

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on May 14, 2015, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 09, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jim ended The House Of Frank 3sh auction early.

A probable, good sign, methinks.  notworthy.gif



Maybe Grey convinced him to let HA have a shot
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 14, 2015, 10:51:55 PM
Maybe Grey convinced him to let HA have a shot

Maybe.. tho there was method to his 'madness.'  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 18, 2015, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on May 10, 2015, 04:07:14 PM
Look what popped up all restored in the July upcoming auction!!
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/moulin-rouge-united-artists-1934-one-sheet-2725-x-41-/p/7109-22003.s (http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/moulin-rouge-united-artists-1934-one-sheet-2725-x-41-/p/7109-22003.s)

Now you get a 2nd crack at it!!


They sure did nice restore job to this beauty.  bed1

Now to see how it will do, compared to its $2200+ sale price on ebay, this coming July.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf_zpse64l5hzb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: YugoMoviePoster on May 22, 2015, 02:28:52 PM
This is listed as Danish First release poster.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3868136
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150519/550/danish_great_dictator_R60s_BM03986_C.jpg)

However, when you look at auction history - it is says that is from 1960s re-release.
Apparently the one with "United Artist" logo in lower right corner is from re-release, and the one with "Constantin Films" logo is First Release poster.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140327/550/danish_great_dictator_linen_JC10871_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on May 22, 2015, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on May 22, 2015, 02:28:52 PM
This is listed as Danish First release poster.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3868136
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150519/550/danish_great_dictator_R60s_BM03986_C.jpg)

However, when you look at auction history - it is says that is from 1960s re-release.
Apparently the one with "United Artist" logo in lower right corner is from re-release, and the one with "Constantin Films" logo is First Release poster.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA140327/550/danish_great_dictator_linen_JC10871_L.jpg)

Good catch.  I would definitely shoot Bruce a quick email with your findings... I'm sure it will be corrected ASAP.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: YugoMoviePoster on May 22, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
Yes, I have just send email to Matt, who is in charge for this kind of stuff.
I always do that when its about Yugoslavian posters, because I know the subject well.

In this case not sure that archive info is corect, so I hoped that someone who knows better about Danish posters can confirm that.

Edit: Just check at the Heritage and they also had listed "Constantin Films" poster as 1947 first release, so probably - that is it.

Edit Edit: Matt just reply: "This is actually the 1947 first release poster but someone added a United Artist snipe over the Constantin logo".
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 22, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on May 22, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
Yes, I have just send email to Matt, who is in charge for this kind of stuff.
I always do that when its about Yugoslavian posters, because I know the subject well.

In this case not sure that archive info is corect, so I hoped that someone who knows better about Danish posters can confirm that.

Edit: Just check at the Heritage and they also had listed "Constantin Films" poster as 1947 first release, so probably - that is it.

Edit Edit: Matt just reply: "This is actually the 1947 first release poster but someone added a United Artist snipe over the Constantin logo".

That is quite an oversight.. to not mention (a simple oversight, tho) a glued snipe, that had been placed over the Constanin logo, in the description. The great thing is that emovie will notify the winner, giving him/her the option to not follow with the purchase, if they so choose.  :D

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 22, 2015, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on May 22, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
Yes, I have just send email to Matt, who is in charge for this kind of stuff.

Edit Edit: Matt just reply: "This is actually the 1947 first release poster but someone added a United Artist snipe over the Constantin logo".

And Matt at emovie has and is always so appreciative, too, of any updates or things incorrectly noted on their site, that have been brought to their attention. He has written me back every single time, saying "thank you."  sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on May 25, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
I usually don't advertise the stuff I have listed for sale or consigned, but here's a darn cool Australian one sheet for Player (1971) at eMovie.  It's a lost film about pool, and features Minnesota Fats.  This is the only poster for the film that I've seen, and after doing some research about the movie and everything, it's an extremely rare piece, and in darn good condition.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=3867497 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=3867497)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 25, 2015, 11:10:26 PM
I have that poster in the gambling collection of course and it is rather tough to find
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on May 26, 2015, 12:11:39 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 25, 2015, 11:10:26 PM
I have that poster in the gambling collection of course and it is rather tough to find

 cool1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on May 26, 2015, 05:50:19 AM
Good luck Brandon. Hope it will do well!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on May 26, 2015, 08:47:45 AM
Finally the previews to the June Major auction over at EMP are up.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 26, 2015, 03:25:01 PM
when Morrie Everett's collection part 1 goes up next month, all other auctions will be forgotten
Dan Strebin was showing loads of great cards that will be in the first sale.. Absolutely mind-blowing material
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on May 26, 2015, 05:19:58 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 26, 2015, 03:25:01 PM
when Morrie Everett's collection part 1 goes up next month, all other auctions will be forgotten
Dan Strebin was showing loads of great cards that will be in the first sale.. Absolutely mind-blowing material

Oh boy... i am curious to see that one too!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on May 27, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 26, 2015, 03:25:01 PM
when Morrie Everett's collection part 1 goes up next month, all other auctions will be forgotten
Dan Strebin was showing loads of great cards that will be in the first sale.. Absolutely mind-blowing material

And the countdown begins....

 waiting1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 12:47:55 AM
(https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/)

I just went through every page.....HOLY BALLS X 1 MILLION..... faint2.gif faint2.gif faint2.gif faint2.gif

That is the greatest single auction I have ever seen....I was a little overwhelmed to be honest...Profiles is going richter in the 1st auction.....of course there will be some deals and steals with that much amazing....if someone gave me $150,000 to spend...I wouldn't even make it halfway through the first day....there will be some epic bidding wars....I'm hoping there will be a decent trickle down effect for years to come as people "flip" some of the lots and break up sets etc....kind of sad but inevitable...

...My first reaction was that I felt like tons of the material has never been seen at public auction before...this is truly the rarest and most complete group of one of a kind material ever assembled in my lifetime...and clearly a once in a lifetime opportunity for serious collectors!!
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
ooops...forgot the link

https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/ (https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 28, 2015, 02:15:53 AM
words are redundant
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 02:45:11 AM
I know...I just couldnt sit awestruck in silence any longer.....Rich...have you ever bid live via Internet at profiles before?..I wonder how it compares to the Heritage live format?...
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Post by: Mirosae on May 28, 2015, 03:23:17 AM
You might be better off using their phone service. Just to be on the safe side...
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Post by: Simes on May 28, 2015, 07:19:54 AM
A few years ago, I bid online for a poster at Profiles, and the whole thing ballsed up.  Nothing went through.

I am sure since then things have been improved.  I believe they were just very stringent on which browsers worked and didn't work.  I was on the latest version of IE at the time... so, who knows why that wouldn't have worked...?

Might be worth sticking a few bids on other Profiles auctions before hand, where the final price won't leave you holding the bag.
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Post by: brude on May 28, 2015, 07:43:09 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
ooops...forgot the link

https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/ (https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/)

Thanks for posting this link.
It is an absolutely incredible collection.
 faint2.gif
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Post by: CSM on May 28, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 06, 2015, 11:57:52 PM
And with a price tag of (potentially) $40K!

I wonder.....

 hmmm.gif



It's back...and 25% cheaper!  Patience saves

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-UNIVERSAL-THREE-SHEET-NEVER-OFFERED-BEFORE-/261906215352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfad3b1b8
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Post by: eatbrie on May 28, 2015, 09:52:45 PM
Awful poster.  I haven't seen the movie, but this is just bad.  All the talk about floating heads, I guess they started very early on.  If it wasn't for the title, I can't imagine this poster selling for a dime.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 28, 2015, 11:08:03 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 02:45:11 AM
I know...I just couldnt sit awestruck in silence any longer.....Rich...have you ever bid live via Internet at profiles before?..I wonder how it compares to the Heritage live format?...

yes and it works fine. although like all auctions if you are serious.. be there!
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 04:43:29 AM
Quote from: rumble on May 06, 2015, 11:31:09 PM
If you couldn't afford the FRANKIE 3-sheet here's a little something...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-UNIVERSAL-THREE-SHEET-NEVER-OFFERED-BEFORE-/261876488795 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-UNIVERSAL-THREE-SHEET-NEVER-OFFERED-BEFORE-/261876488795)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFg3ODU=/z/1MIAAOSwPhdVR-Mc/$_57.JPG)

It's back... with a $10,000.00 price reduction.  8)  Now listed at $29,999.00 / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261906215352?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2015, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 04:43:29 AM
It's back... with a $10,000.00 price reduction.  8)  Now listed at $29,999.00 / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261906215352?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Even though we both posted about the relisting Jeff (see above) I still doubt it will sway Thierry's sentiments ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on May 29, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: CSM on May 29, 2015, 10:01:45 AM
Even though we both posted about the relisting Jeff (see above) I still doubt it will sway Thierry's sentiments ;)

A lot of these 30s-40s posters are pure crap, imo.  If it wasn't for age and title, people would not look at them twice.  Just because it is Bella Lugosi, or Frankenstein, or the Werewolf, people are like Ooooh and Aaaaah and spend 1000s of dollars on them.  But the designs are poor, unimaginative and I see a lot of what people hate in modern posters on these so-called beauties.  Granted, it probably comes from the fact that I haven't seen a lot of these movies.  I buy The Apartment even though the poster is crap just because I love the flick.  But I can recognize that the poster is crap.

T
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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 29, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
A lot of these 30s-40s posters are pure crap, imo.  If it wasn't for age and title, people would not look at them twice.  Just because it is Bella Lugosi, or Frankenstein, or the Werewolf, people are like Ooooh and Aaaaah and spend 1000s of dollars on them.  But the designs are poor, unimaginative and I see a lot of what people hate in modern posters on these so-called beauties.  Granted, it probably comes from the fact that I haven't seen a lot of these movies.  I buy The Apartment even though the poster is crap just because I love the flick.  But I can recognize that the poster is crap.

T

A lot of the 'Universal Horror Phenomenon' is related purely to nostalgia (and in some cases rarity).  It's certainly not because these posters have the greatest artwork above all other paper...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 29, 2015, 10:01:45 AM
Even though we both posted about the relisting Jeff (see above) I still doubt it will sway Thierry's sentiments ;)

I flew past some of the last few entries, here Chris; I had some internet connection issues and was not logged on for chunks of time the last couple of days.

1000 apologies for the double up.  prayer.gif

 Doh.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 28, 2015, 11:08:03 PM
yes and it works fine. although like all auctions if you are serious.. be there!

Thanks for that, Rich.

A sense of calm now reigns once again.  ;D

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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 29, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
A lot of these 30s-40s posters are pure crap, imo.  If it wasn't for age and title, people would not look at them twice.  Just because it is Bella Lugosi, or Frankenstein, or the Werewolf, people are like Ooooh and Aaaaah and spend 1000s of dollars on them.  But the designs are poor, unimaginative and I see a lot of what people hate in modern posters on these so-called beauties.  Granted, it probably comes from the fact that I haven't seen a lot of these movies.  I buy The Apartment even though the poster is crap just because I love the flick.  But I can recognize that the poster is crap.

T

Much of the design factor you mention is very true, T. The floating heads...terrible.. and one can look back and see that the one style that was done for Dracula, back in '31, utilized the same look. Not good.. or 10 yrs later for a OS for The Wolf Man. Severed heads never were the way to go, horror or not, yet they seemed to be all the rage throughout those deacdes.  :-\
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 29, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 29, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
A lot of the 'Universal Horror Phenomenon' is related purely to nostalgia (and in some cases rarity).  It's certainly not because these posters have the greatest artwork above all other paper...

nearly all movie posters are collected for nostalgia..
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Post by: CSM on May 29, 2015, 10:46:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 29, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
nearly all movie posters are collected for nostalgia..

I would disagree with that - there are many cases of collecting for artwork or myriad other reasons. Case in point - many people collect posters for movies they haven't even seen.

I collect film noir posters but I certainly wasn't alive when these films were in theatres...
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on May 30, 2015, 03:51:03 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on May 28, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
ooops...forgot the link

https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/ (https://www.profilesinhistory.com/auctions/morris-everett-jr-the-auction-part-i/)

Man, that's a feast for the eyes.
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Post by: Undead on May 30, 2015, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 29, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
nearly all movie posters are collected for nostalgia..

I would also be another that does not collect entirely for nostalgia. Admittedly that the bulk of the posters I buy are but I would say a good 30% I buy are for the artwork like any other artists print. None of my WWI/WWII collection is for nostalgia and I really only collect work primarily from two particular artists with a few exceptions.
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Post by: wonka on May 30, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: CSM on May 29, 2015, 10:46:01 PM
I would disagree with that - there are many cases of collecting for artwork or myriad other reasons. Case in point - many people collect posters for movies they haven't even seen.

I collect film noir posters but I certainly wasn't alive when these films were in theatres...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2015, 03:15:28 PM
Im also one that doesn't collect for pure nostalgia. A number of pieces I have are for films I have never seen, and what drew me to them was the artwork (also the decade when made). If anything else, the poster has sometimes made me want to seek out and watch the movie, even if that film might have been made back in the 1920s or '30s.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
I have seen nearly every film I have posters for, including hundreds or thousands of films that came out BEFORE I was born.
Most people I know collect posters for films they like and enjoy. That doesn't mean people don't collect also for films they never have nor ever will see, but I don't know anyone who collects posters and is not a movie fan. These 2 parts go hand-in-hand.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2015, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
I have seen nearly every film I have posters for, including hundreds or thousands of films that came out BEFORE I was born.
Most people I know collect posters for films they like and enjoy. That doesn't mean people don't collect also for films they never have nor ever will see, but I don't know anyone who collects posters and is not a movie fan. These 2 parts go hand-in-hand.

You know it, Rich. If there is not some tie in or like/love of films in general, a huge part of what a poster represents is lost.
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Post by: monocle on May 31, 2015, 07:13:08 AM
Well I collect posters and I'm not what anyone could call a movie fan...but I assume you mean collects movie posters and is not a movie fan? ! I collect antique posters and I enjoy watching some films but not 'going to the movies'. I go out to the cinema a massive...once a year. Between 1980 and 2001 I didn't go at all. From the comfort of my own home I dipped into what was available on four television stations, subtitled European films and splendid Czechoslovakian animation...
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Post by: Mirosae on May 31, 2015, 06:27:59 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
I have seen nearly every film I have posters for, including hundreds or thousands of films that came out BEFORE I was born.


Well put Rich. Same here.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2015, 02:40:00 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on May 31, 2015, 06:27:59 PM
Well put Rich. Same here.

 ;)
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Post by: brude on June 01, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 30, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
...but I don't know anyone who collects posters and is not a movie fan.

Well that explains the whole Mel debacle and the subsequent liquidation.
From what I recall, he hadn't seen any of the many movies he was scooping up paper for.
I got a feeling he's gonna experience some severe seller's remorse down the road...
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Post by: wonka on June 02, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: brude on June 01, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
Well that explains the whole Mel debacle and the subsequent liquidation.
From what I recall, he hadn't seen any of the many movies he was scooping up paper for.
I got a feeling he's gonna experience some severe seller's remorse down the road...

Did he send everything to Bruce? Where is he dumping them?
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Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
Looks like ma500969 is swooping in, on emovie, for more early stone litho goodness, this afternoon.  faint2.gif
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Post by: Neo on June 02, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
Quote from: wonka on June 02, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
Did he send everything to Bruce? Where is he dumping them?

There are a few pieces that are suspected to be from his collection, that have distinct features, that some people spotted at eMovie.  Someone else here said he saw several at Heritage.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2015, 05:32:30 PM
Its always so nice when this lovely shows up, in whatever venue.  bed1  bed1

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-8_zpsufaomomr.jpg)

BIN: $ 1.25 M / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-BRIDE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1935-KARLOFF-TEASER-ONE-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381281797208?hash=item58c62a8458
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Post by: wonka on June 02, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 02, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
There are a few pieces that are suspected to be from his collection, that have distinct features, that some people spotted at eMovie.  Someone else here said he saw several at Heritage.

Thanks for the heads up. I am sure he has calculated the best place to sell each and every poster to maximize his take. Hope it works out for him.
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Post by: brude on June 02, 2015, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: wonka on June 02, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I am sure he has calculated the best place to sell each and every poster to maximize his take. Hope it works out for him.

Btw, the seller's remorse comment I made has nothing to do with price.
In a short time, Mel built a very nice collection.
If he liquidates it, he'll be sorry.
I hope he has sense enough to keep some of his favorite pieces.
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Post by: CSM on June 02, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: brude on June 02, 2015, 07:18:02 PM
Btw, the seller's remorse comment I made has nothing to do with price.
In a short time, Mel built a very nice collection.
If he liquidates it, he'll be sorry.
I hope he has sense enough to keep some of his favorite pieces.


Nah he's going to turn those liquid assets into a 5 star Russian bride
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 03, 2015, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 02, 2015, 04:54:23 PM
Looks like ma500969 is swooping in, on emovie, for more early stone litho goodness, this afternoon.  faint2.gif
more like maw'faw'....
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Post by: eatbrie on June 03, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 02, 2015, 05:32:30 PM

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-8_zpsufaomomr.jpg)

I think 95% of monsters posters are lame and freakin' ugly, but this up there is as beautiful as they come.  A little pricy is all.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on June 05, 2015, 03:54:21 AM
Sold via emovie in February of this year for $13.00 USD (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15322305.html ) and this same copy is now listed on ebay for $50.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOMEN-IN-THE-WIND-original-1939-22x28-movie-poster-KAY-FRANCIS-AVIATION-BIPLANES-/291482801276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ddba947c

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NVgxMzQ0/z/fnQAAOSwZd1Vbx2C/$_12.JPG)



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Post by: erik1925 on June 05, 2015, 03:58:34 AM
Yet more Uni wonderment appearing again.  notworthy.gif  The US OS for The Black Cat (1934):

$650K / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-BLACK-CAT-1934-BELA-LUGOSI-BORIS-KARLOFF-ONE-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381282015285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c62dd835

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk2/z/8J8AAOSwv0tVblOe/$_57.JPG)



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Post by: CSM on June 07, 2015, 12:35:25 AM
Who the F would tape up a linenbacked Black Cat one sheet?  eyeroll
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 12:40:32 AM
Might have been one of the auction houses that has offered it in the past, maybe. Bonhams here in LA did that with all the posters that were part of the exhibit last spring. Some were peeling off the walls.

Unreal, to be honest.  Doh.gif

Dunno, tho.
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Post by: CSM on June 07, 2015, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 12:40:32 AM
Might have been one of the auction houses that has offered it in the past, maybe. Bonhams here in LA did that with all the posters that were part of the exhibit last spring. Some were peeling off the walls.

Unreal, to be honest.  Doh.gif

Dunno, tho.

I could see that but surely after the sale the buyer or auctioneer would simply peel it off?  That tape has clearly been on there a very long time!
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 03:44:18 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 07, 2015, 01:02:43 AM
I could see that but surely after the sale the buyer or auctioneer would simply peel it off?  That tape has clearly been on there a very long time!

True enough. It's not the best look. And would be easy to get rid of.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 02:10:15 PM
For only $100K more, you get tape free, linen borders, Chris:  ;D

US OS for The Old Dark House (1932)   bed1

$750K / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-OLD-DARK-HOUSE-1932-BORIS-KARLOFF-27-x-41-ONE-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/151705697431?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23525d3c97

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/z/YWkAAOSwBLlVc0Ny/$_12.JPG)
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Post by: pratschm on June 07, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
Uh, am I missing something here? Was this printed with gold ink or something?  ???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191543626788?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Currently $460. Huh.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTU5OVgxMDc0/z/aE4AAOSwNSxVEe3W/$_57.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: pratschm on June 07, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
Uh, am I missing something here? Was this printed with gold ink or something?  ???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191543626788?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT



Some would have you think so, i guess, Mike.  laugh1
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Post by: pratschm on June 07, 2015, 02:36:46 PM
Hell, I'll sell a copy for half the final price to the underbidder. He'll be getting a steal! :)
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Post by: hepcatpunk on June 07, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
Saw that too and thought I was missing something.  88 bids?
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Post by: pratschm on June 07, 2015, 02:41:23 PM
Only thing I can think of that we're missing is lots of extra money to superfluously spend on that poster.  wynk
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Post by: eatbrie on June 07, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Can't you guys read?

These can be very difficult to find in any condition! A long time can go by without one of these coming up for sale. You will have trouble finding a nicer one.

Seriously!!!
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Post by: pratschm on June 07, 2015, 02:59:32 PM
 Doh.gif

My bad.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 07, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Can't you guys read?

Seriously!!!

 GoOn.gif

 imbecile.gif
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Post by: CSM on June 08, 2015, 11:50:53 AM
I did forget for a second until Thierry reminded me
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2015, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 05, 2015, 03:54:21 AM
Sold via emovie in February of this year for $13.00 USD (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15322305.html ) and this same copy is now listed on ebay for $50.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOMEN-IN-THE-WIND-original-1939-22x28-movie-poster-KAY-FRANCIS-AVIATION-BIPLANES-/291482801276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ddba947c

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NVgxMzQ0/z/fnQAAOSwZd1Vbx2C/$_12.JPG)

$1 auctions do not achieve the best prices for 90+% of what is sold.
not sure why that is a mystery
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Post by: Harry Caul on June 08, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
They do offer the quickest sales though! 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2015, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on June 08, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
They do offer the quickest sales though! 

they offer whatever closeout price someone is willing to pay at this very moment.
While they were a reasonable asset previously (meaning auctions) they have become such a "race to the bottom" that it has a serious negative effect on the overall strength of the hobby. This works in comics & other paper hobbies also. People think comics sell for price guide values, but they don't. 90% or more of the comic hobby everyone knows (if they are knowledgeable) sells for 30-80% off guide value and I'm talking pre-1975 material. Post 1975 can be as much as 99% off guide value for the vast majority of material.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 13, 2015, 11:24:45 PM
Horror of Dracula - UK Crown (20x30)    clap clap clap

BIN: $20,000.00 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Horror-Of-Dracula-RARE-Original-British-Crown-20-x-30-Poster-Christopher-Lee/201369957877?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D31233%26meid%3D5172a742204f41d0bde7183e776b99f2%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D251992986671

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-21_zpshcb1rvac.jpg)
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Post by: paul waines on June 14, 2015, 10:52:13 AM
My Birthday is coming up if you guys want to have a whip-round.... ;D
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 14, 2015, 11:49:25 AM
Anyone know if Ken got his piles of paper back the government took?
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Post by: erik1925 on June 14, 2015, 01:28:04 PM
It does make one wonder, especially when a little ditty like the above poster*, is still in his possession and available for sale.

* and that is one I  bed1. I may have to take a short drive over the hill and pick it up.  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on June 15, 2015, 05:06:13 PM
The heavyweight is back!!  faint2.gif

Dracula, US OS

BIN: $1.5 M / obo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-1931-Original-BELA-LUGOSI-27x41-One-Sheet-TOD-BROWNING-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381179208730?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c00d241a
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 15, 2015, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on June 14, 2015, 11:49:25 AM
Anyone know if Ken got his piles of paper back the government took?

I'm pretty sure anything that was carted away, was carted away.
By edict, it would need to be sold & monies distributed. If more money was produced than necessary to fulfill any judgement, overages minus administrative costs would be distributed back to Ken.
pretty sure that's how it works.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 16, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
Beautious!!!  bed1

BIN: $3800.00 from Senor Benito.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-CHRISTOPHER-LEE-1958-TERENCE-FISHER-MOVIE-POSTER-45/361215736419?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3Dad3a77d0ba9e43b5851a6de10da9a234%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D201369957877

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/drac_zpsrrme48lt.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 16, 2015, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 16, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
Beautious!!!  bed1

BIN: $3800.00 from Senor Benito.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DRACULA-CHRISTOPHER-LEE-1958-TERENCE-FISHER-MOVIE-POSTER-45/361215736419?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3Dad3a77d0ba9e43b5851a6de10da9a234%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D201369957877

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/drac_zpsrrme48lt.jpg)

For a moment there, I thought it was the quad and was about to buy it :)  Too good to be true at such a low price.

Too bad.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on June 16, 2015, 02:15:09 PM
Its very close to the UK art, that's for sure.  thumbsup.gif

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/horrorofdracula_zps6twarent.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 16, 2015, 02:16:47 PM
Not close enough.

T
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Post by: 50s on June 20, 2015, 01:22:34 AM
Here's one for Dirty Dancing fans

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150614/550/commercial_dirty_dancing_SD01079_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3891564)

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Post by: erik1925 on June 20, 2015, 01:35:03 AM
WOOF!

 wynk
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Post by: Mirosae on June 20, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: 50s on June 20, 2015, 01:22:34 AM
Here's one for Dirty Dancing fans

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150614/550/commercial_dirty_dancing_SD01079_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3891564)



Thanks. I will join the fan club tomorrow. First thing :)
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Post by: CSM on June 21, 2015, 12:19:26 AM
I am more of a Johnny Castle fan
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Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 01:10:58 AM
Quote from: CSM on June 21, 2015, 12:19:26 AM
I am more of a Johnny Castle fan

I KNEW it.....

 notworthy.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 03:35:09 AM
Only a BIN of $10,0000.00 for this insert.   faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUMMYS-TOMB-INSERT-1942-UNIVERSAL-ROLLED-/261938035362?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cfcb93aa2

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTEwMVg0ODA=/z/A8gAAOSw~gRVhcK8/$_57.JPG)


(Go, Jim, go!  :D )
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Post by: 50s on June 21, 2015, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 03:35:09 AM
Only a BIN of $10,0000.00 for this insert.   faint2.gif

That sure is a lot of noughts

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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 10:17:28 AM
What do y'all think about this one for The Matrix?   http://auctions.emovieposter.com/bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=3891211 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=3891211)


(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/mat1_zpsyb6m61pp.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/mat1_zpsyb6m61pp.jpg.html)

It's 27 1/2" x 39 1/4", the credits on the lower edge looks kinda disproportionate to how a theater one sheet would look, which makes it look a little "off."


Here's the description:

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/mat2_zpsos1kinz8.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/mat2_zpsos1kinz8.jpg.html)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 21, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
I don't believe it is legit, but then again I don't believe 99% of this stuff is legit.  I own a bunch of mock ups that I got directly from studios I worked at and they are unique, 1/1, always on foam boards for presentation.  They were never printed because they were all rejected.  The only time I have heard of a mock up being printed is when a WB executive that I personally talked to printed 200 Schindler's List poster at Saul Bass' request.  He gave Bass half and kept the other half.  Otherwise, they do not get printed, officially that is.  Someone can always steal the design that has been left behind and print a bunch of posters at the studio.  I could have done it back then.  Does that make it real?  I don't think so, but others do.

T
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Post by: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 11:06:55 AM
The original Matrix website had unused designs for the film's poster on one of it's pages. I downloaded them all, this one included. It wasn't of sufficient quality to make a convincing print though.

With these things it's always about trusted provenance which is an incredibly hard thing to get. Unfortunately these auctions rarely come with it.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 21, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 11:06:55 AM
The original Matrix website had unused designs for the film's poster on one of it's pages. I downloaded them all, this one included. It wasn't of sufficient quality to make a convincing print though.

With these things it's always about trusted provenance which is an incredibly hard thing to get. Unfortunately these auctions rarely come with it.

Exactly.  But it doesn't seem to bother a lot of people who will spend thousands of $$$ to acquire pieces like this.  The same goes with signatures.  People want to believe, and if it makes them happy, more power to them.

T
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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 11:22:10 AM
Good info., T and SJ.  

I agree, that provenance is always good with this kind of thing.  Of course, people can draw their own conclusions, although in many cases, whether they're factual is difficult to prove or disprove.

Quote from: eatbrie on June 21, 2015, 10:59:51 AM
I don't believe it is legit, but then again I don't believe 99% of this stuff is legit.  I own a bunch of mock ups that I got directly from studios I worked at and they are unique, 1/1, always on foam boards for presentation.  They were never printed because they were all rejected.  The only time I have heard of a mock up being printed is when a WB executive that I personally talked to printed 200 Schindler's List poster at Saul Bass' request.  He gave Bass half and kept the other half.  Otherwise, they do not get printed, officially that is.  Someone can always steal the design that has been left behind and print a bunch of posters at the studio.  I could have done it back then.  Does that make it real?  I don't think so, but others do.

T


The mock up dealios sound cool.  Do you have photos of them on your website, and a special section for them?

That is interesting how would someone could steal the design and go to the studio and print a bunch of posters.  Do you mean they would just steal a high resolution image, and go somewhere like a fancy Kinko's?
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Post by: eatbrie on June 21, 2015, 11:47:04 AM
No, I mean studio employees.  Most mock-ups are left behind and it's extremely easy to get hold of one.  Just walk in the room and grab it.  Or get someone in advertizing to send you a jpeg.  Who's gonna know?  Studios also have large printers.  Enough said.  Bruce has sold a lot of "unique" posters over the year.  I don't trust any of them, but that's from my own experience, which is, my own.  At the end of the day, I don't really care what other people do with their money.  Like I said, if it makes them happy...

And no, I don't show them on my website.  A lot were given to me, but I still don't know if I have the right to own them.

T
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Post by: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Seeing the username of the high bidder I imagine this could do very well. I actually quite like this one and as much as you can tell from the supersize image, printing looks good.

I agree that Bruce had sold a fair share of these kinds of items. Maybe he has a good source who, for the same reason as T can't show his mock ups, isn't willing to make full disclosure. Who knows, I'm sure we all have a good idea of what we're bidding on at the end of the day.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
And if, by some chance, it is fan created, as bruce offers as one possibility, that's some hefty coin for something like that.
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Post by: brude on June 21, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
There's all sorts of variations of that image on the internet.
I would love to know just what Bruce has there....

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/OTHER/matrix3_zpsn2pien5i.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/brude2000/media/OTHER/matrix3_zpsn2pien5i.jpg.html)

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/OTHER/matrix2_zpsaaso0d5b.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/brude2000/media/OTHER/matrix2_zpsaaso0d5b.jpg.html)
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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Seeing the username of the high bidder I imagine this could do very well. I actually quite like this one and as much as you can tell from the supersize image, printing looks good.

I agree that Bruce had sold a fair share of these kinds of items. Maybe he has a good source who, for the same reason as T can't show his mock ups, isn't willing to make full disclosure. Who knows, I'm sure we all have a good idea of what we're bidding on at the end of the day.

If there were good provenance on this one, I'm sure the description would have included something to that effect.  Several concept posters that eMovie has sold in the past had that as part of their descriptions.

Quote from: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 02:45:42 PM
And if, by some chance, it is fan created, as bruce offers as one possibility, that's some hefty coin for something like that.

Yep.

A few things look a little off to me; the odd placement/size of the credits, the overall darkness of it, etc.  Although there may never be a definitive answer on this one, it just has more of a "fan art" vibe, IMO.

Anyway, it's up to $310 now.  It will be interesting to see the hammer price.
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Post by: marklawd on June 21, 2015, 04:08:33 PM
Bruce has the advantage of knowing who his consignors are and their credibility. I think he has some doubts as to the background story here and I agree that the placement of the credits is odd. So I won't be bidding.

Mark
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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 04:27:58 PM
Hammer price: $802  :o
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Post by: Mirosae on June 21, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 21, 2015, 04:27:58 PM
Hammer price: $802  :o

Good lord.

Im in the wrong business.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 21, 2015, 05:00:05 PM
When Bruce says: "I'm not sure..."  I RUN!!!

T
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Post by: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 05:13:53 PM
Well the design isn't done by a fan that's for sure. The credits being odd is just the way it's designed. If it's fan printed it then that's a different matter but I don't think it is.

I think sometimes Bruce does make mistakes with his listings but he did give this one a caveat.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 05:20:11 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 21, 2015, 04:27:58 PM
Hammer price: $802  :o

YOWZA!! and for something with a few questions about it.

 jawdrop
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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 05:13:53 PM
Well the design isn't done by a fan that's for sure. The credits being odd is just the way it's designed. If it's fan printed it then that's a different matter but I don't think it is.

I think sometimes Bruce does make mistakes with his listings but he did give this one a caveat.


Was it one of the designs on the original The Matrix website?  It would be cool if you share those designs here, in the Unused Concept Art thread.

Regarding the credits, I was just saying that most of the concept posters I've seen have credits and all that are much closer to the final product.
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Post by: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 05:46:54 PM
I will try and dig them out and post them, but they were from the official Matrix website when the first film was released.
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Post by: Neo on June 21, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on June 21, 2015, 05:46:54 PM
I will try and dig them out and post them, but they were from the official Matrix website when the first film was released.

 cool1
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 21, 2015, 07:30:52 PM
That was a bargain. Better poster than the lighting style which is far to similar to the US one sheet.
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Post by: Maulcreem on June 21, 2015, 10:41:51 PM
It's certainly striking and unique. Hard to believe the price considering the description specifically states they can't guarantee its not fan made. The Matrix is recent and popular and I'm not surprised there was interest though. Imagine if it was an unused concept for Star Wars!
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Post by: erik1925 on June 21, 2015, 10:50:31 PM
Quote from: Maulcreem on June 21, 2015, 10:41:51 PM
It's certainly striking and unique. Hard to believe the price considering the description specifically states they can't guarantee its not fan made. The Matrix is recent and popular and I'm not surprised there was interest though. Imagine if it was an unused concept for Star Wars!

And if EMP (let alone the consignor couldn't tell Bruce, for certain, what it is), certainly makes it a gamble on the part of the winning bidder. But he/she wanted it and that's really all that matters.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on June 22, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
A German herald for Metropolis.  bed1  Bonhams LA.

Est: $3K-5K

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/22374/lot/186A/

(http://images2.bonhams.com/image?src=Images/live/2015-06/11/9142666-3-2.jpg&width=640&height=480&halign=l0&valign=t0&autosizefit=1)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 22, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 21, 2015, 05:33:44 PM
Was it one of the designs on the original The Matrix website?  It would be cool if you share those designs here, in the Unused Concept Art thread.

Regarding the credits, I was just saying that most of the concept posters I've seen have credits and all that are much closer to the final product.


I ran across one website commentary that said the embryo poster was an international version that was never released due to the graphic nature of the pod. Whether true or not, remains to be seen, I guess.
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Post by: Neo on June 22, 2015, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 22, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
I ran across one website commentary that said the embryo poster was an international version that was never released due to the graphic nature of the pod. Whether true or not, remains to be seen, I guess.

Interesting.   pcorn
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Post by: wonka on June 22, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
That Matrix looks like it could have been a Suncoast Special.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 22, 2015, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: wonka on June 22, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
That Matrix looks like it could have been a Suncoast Special.

Good times, those Suncoasters.  ;D
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Post by: brude on June 23, 2015, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 22, 2015, 05:16:11 PM
I ran across one website commentary that said the embryo poster was an international version that was never released due to the graphic nature of the pod. Whether true or not, remains to be seen, I guess.

Do you have a link to this commentary?
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 24, 2015, 08:37:31 AM
Bruce seems to have gone through a lot a trouble to clarify that these AREN'T your run-of-the-mill SMELLY standees...  were they that bad?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/tag/xtype%253Astandee/13.html

Important Added Info: Note that several months ago, we were consigned around a dozen standees that were similar to this one. Just about every one of them is "die-cut", meaning that they are cut around the edges to the shape of the image. But while those were from the same time period, they had been poorly stored, and most were quite musty and had other condition issues. NOW WE HAVE BEEN CONSIGNED A DIFFERENT MUCH LARGER GROUP OF 85 STANDEES LIKE THESE, BUT WHILE THESE ALSO HAVE CONDITION ISSUES, THEY ARE NOT "MUSTY" LIKE THE EARLIER ONES WERE! They were apparently stored far better, and while they have aged over the past 60 or 70 years, but most of the defects were likely acquired when they were first used. See the condition area below for a full description of the condition each standee is in, but know that this is a remarkable collection that was well stored for many decades (and standees like this have always been quite rare, because few survived, likely because theaters discarded them after using them)!There are two circular pieces of cardboard attached to the back of the standee that once had a string between them (this is how the standees were originally made), but the strings are no longer present, pretty unusual for standees of this age. This does not have any kind of regular standee backing. We are guessing that you were supposed to lean the standee against a pole and tie the strings from the circles around the pole, but that is just a guess!
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Post by: Mirosae on June 24, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Dont you just love this literature?!
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Post by: pratschm on June 24, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
tl;dr
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Post by: kovacs01 on June 25, 2015, 02:09:42 AM
Quote from: wonka on June 22, 2015, 11:10:39 PM
That Matrix looks like it could have been a Suncoast Special.

Sold you that sumbitch for a bargain basement price of $15 when you paid $29.99 for the DVD.  It is no wonder they either closed or rebranded most of them F. Y. E. 
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Post by: wonka on June 25, 2015, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on June 25, 2015, 02:09:42 AM
Sold you that sumbitch for a bargain basement price of $15 when you paid $29.99 for the DVD.  It is no wonder they either closed or rebranded most of them F. Y. E. 

Exactly.

While I cannot confirm this one being printed for Suncoast stores, it looks like one of their 'different than the usual poster art' approach they had for a few titles.
The Fight Club soap posters were FOR SURE in that store, another reason I steer clear of those. The price they get from EMP is mind-blowing if not stupid.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 26, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Only $42,000!!  :o   faint2.gif  (obo)

The Devil's Harvest (1942) US OS (with a WC look)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Devils-Harvest-Continental-1942-One-Sheet-ORIGINAL-Cannabis-Marijuana-Drug/181761062581?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3D0fc9902321f74a24939ef04be267f507%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D170876519947

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMDYz/z/8MQAAOxy2CZTbArS/$_12.JPG)

Or get a deal here, at only $12,000.00 / obo !   thumbsup.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEVILS-HARVEST-ORIGINAL-1942-RELEASE/181630799752?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3De9a37c4197fc4692b78cfcc8dd91f8ea%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D170876519947

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTExNlgxMDI0/z/iK0AAOSwyZ5Upy4o/$_12.JPG)




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on June 26, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
Whoa....
Just think... you saved someone 30k.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 26, 2015, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 26, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Only $42,000!!  :o   faint2.gif  (obo)

well the seller's name is appropriate "Nevermind Gallery"

so.. nevermind......
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 02, 2015, 06:08:31 PM
With the discussion about this poster, (the JP B1 for The Castle of Cagliostro) it is interesting to read this seller's description, where he basically tries to say that because this poster has been reprinted SO many times, that these later reprints ARE considered the same as the original releases.  Doh.gif

Priced at a BIN of $180.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151730631088?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on July 02, 2015, 06:58:28 PM
So if I reprint this $20 bill enough times, will he accept that they are considered the same as originals and let me pay with them?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 02, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Same seller also has the chirashi size of Cagliostro but clearly states this is a 2014 RR item:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAYAO-MIYAZAKI-film-The-Castle-of-Cagliostro-RE-JP-mini-poster-movieChirashi-/151300019348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233a2f1494

BIN of $10.00

And yeah, Mike.. it sounds like it might be possible. We should try and see if it works.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 03, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
First Italian release for Notorious; Italian 2F, with beautiful art by Ercole Brini.  bed1

BIN: $14,999.00 / obo  jawdrop
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351433312020?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-4_zps6vv0rtub.jpg)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on July 03, 2015, 08:36:11 PM
A nice Brini for sure, but IMO far from the best art for the film.
15k is kinda high, isn't it?
That's psycho-city pricing if you ask me.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 03, 2015, 09:08:38 PM
Yeah, not the best art, I agree..but i do like his style.

And the price tag seems  faint2.gif  imbecile.gif.... that's for sure.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 11, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
An 11x15 size Belgian for Casablanca. After some tender TLC and backing, this would look great, as the color looks very vibrant and not faded. The artistic renditions of Bogart and Bergman are top notch, too!  bed1

BIN: $2400.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191627831768?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-36_zps6lzofoa5.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Maulcreem on July 11, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Beautiful! Love the colors and large renditions!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on July 15, 2015, 02:50:55 AM
This one's for you Chris

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150714/550/italian_1p_rambo_first_blood_part_ii_KM00285_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3921620)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 03:01:54 AM
Quote from: Maulcreem on July 11, 2015, 11:02:21 PM
Beautiful! Love the colors and large renditions!

I'm So with you on this, MC.

It is some great looking art and a wonderful poster for the film.

Without a doubt.  cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 15, 2015, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: 50s on July 15, 2015, 02:50:55 AM
This one's for you Chris

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150714/550/italian_1p_rambo_first_blood_part_ii_KM00285_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3921620)



That's a big gun no doubt
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on July 15, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
Ha!  I never noticed the artistic license they took with his gun!

(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/fc/Rambo_first_blood_part_ii.jpg/300px-Rambo_first_blood_part_ii.jpg)

(http://hardcoregaming101.net/tracing/rambo-3.jpg)

I'm pretty sure the M60 did not have an RPG attachment :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 15, 2015, 12:02:47 PM
Never watched this film.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 01:30:44 PM
I found this studio publicity shot too...the basis of some of the poster art, too, Im guessing.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/253909__63177.1342530413.380.500_zps6sbyqkfx.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 15, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Kinda surprised that these bus shelters are in a bulk lot at eMovie.  They're some pretty good titles, and they aren't even mentioned in the listing, so they won't appear in people's want lists, the auction history database, Google search, etc.

I consigned them because I moved to a new place recently, and don't have much storage space.

Anyway, they're rad, and in darn good condition.  A few of the designs are only available in the bus shelter size.  The one for Attack of the Clones has a few small pieces of tape (3 if I recall correctly) for very small tears on the border, otherwise they're near perfect.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3918262 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3918262)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/emov1_zpsnc8bsswy.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/emov1_zpsnc8bsswy.jpg.html)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/emov2_zpsqn9vdbu6.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/emov2_zpsqn9vdbu6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on July 15, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
i had the same thoughts on why sell as a bulk lot.  I have my eye on them :) good luck
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 15, 2015, 04:34:35 PM
NEMO is a great poster. Hope you get a good result.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: Neo on July 15, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Kinda surprised that these bus shelters are in a bulk lot at eMovie.  They're some pretty good titles, and they aren't even mentioned in the listing, so they won't appear in people's want lists, the auction history database, Google search, etc.

I consigned them because I moved to a new place recently, and don't have much storage space.

Anyway, they're rad, and in darn good condition.  A few of the designs are only available in the bus shelter size.  The one for Attack of the Clones has a few small pieces of tape (3 if I recall correctly) for very small tears on the border, otherwise they're near perfect.


Good luck, Brandon. Hope the auction kicks some butt for you.  cool1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on July 15, 2015, 05:16:46 PM
I was thinking the positioning of the sun on the Rambo poster was the disturbing bit, but I guess the gun is a bit phallic too
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 15, 2015, 05:22:17 PM
Quote from: 50s on July 15, 2015, 05:16:46 PM
I was thinking the positioning of the sun on the Rambo poster was the disturbing bit, but I guess the gun is a bit phallic too

Blimey. Good eye Steve.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 15, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
Thanks, y'all.  I'm not expecting these to sell for record-breaking prices, just kinda surprised that they're not listed to get the maximum search results and all.  They're pretty darn rare, and the only others I've seen have sold relatively well.


Quote from: Neo on July 15, 2015, 03:15:42 PM

The one for Attack of the Clones has a few small pieces of tape (3 if I recall correctly) for very small tears on the border, otherwise they're near perfect.


I forgot to mention that is acid-free tape, and the only other real condition issue for any of them is for Tron: Legacy, there is a small piece of the lower left corner missing.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: Neo on July 15, 2015, 10:50:52 PM
Thanks, y'all.  I'm not expecting these to sell for record-breaking prices, just kinda surprised that they're not listed to get the maximum search results and all.  They're pretty darn rare, and the only others I've seen have sold relatively well.


I forgot to mention that is acid-free tape, and the only other real condition issue for any of them is for Tron: Legacy, there is a small piece of the lower left corner missing.

Hey Brandon, I dont know much about bus shelters, but just by the nature of them being used in 1000's of bus stops throughout the country, at the time of a film's release (or earlier with the teaser versions), what makes them more rare? Are many destroyed afterward?

I would think that the print run, to satisfy the number of required bus stop displays, would be quite high? (or at least for big name titles). Or maybe not? Thanks mucho.  cool1

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 15, 2015, 11:21:19 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 11:07:03 PM
Hey Brandon, I dont know much about bus shelters, but just by the nature of them being used in 1000's of bus stops throughout the country, at the time of a film's release (or earlier with the teaser versions), what makes them more rare? Are many destroyed afterward?

I would think that the print run, to satisfy the number of required bus stop displays, would be quite high? (or at least for big name titles). Or maybe not? Thanks mucho.  cool1



The main factors are:

1. They're definitely not in a large percentage of bus shelters around the country.  They're printed in significantly less numbers than the one sheets for the same films.  It would be interesting to know just how many are printed.

2. They simply do not appear for sale at the usual places often.  As T said here a while ago, after a movie's initial release, you'll see some bus shelters for sale, but after that, they very rarely appear for sale.  

So yeah, many times, they sell for a lot, compared to the one sheets, and other formats for movies of similar years.

Another reason why many of them do much better than the one sheets is because a lot of the designs on bus shelters are not available in any other format.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: Neo on July 15, 2015, 11:21:19 PM
The main factors are:

1. They're definitely not in a large percentage of bus shelters around the country. They're printed in significantly less numbers than the one sheets for the same films.  It would be interesting to know just how many are printed.

2. They simply do not appear for sale at the usual places often.  As T said here a while ago, after a movie's initial release, you'll see some bus shelters for sale, but after that, they very rarely appear for sale.  

So yeah, many times, they sell for a lot, compared to the one sheets, and other formats for movies of similar years.

Another reason why many of them do much better than the one sheets is because a lot of the designs on bus shelters are not available in any other format.

So for a well publicized title, where the marketing dept is going ALL out... bus shelters are more put to the back burner? I have seen here in LA, for example,  that for big films, bus shelter posters are all over the place (in bus shelters, I mean). As well as billboards, wildings pasted on construction site walls etc.

I can see tho, that the art, only available in the BS size, would be a big selling/collecting point. It's always awesome to learn more about all of this.

Without a doubt.  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 16, 2015, 12:00:44 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 15, 2015, 11:36:15 PM
So for a well publicized title, where the marketing dept is going ALL out... bus shelters are more put to the back burner? I have seen here in LA, for example,  that for big films, bus shelter posters are all over the place (in bus shelters, I mean). As well as billboards, wildings pasted on construction site walls etc.

I can see tho, that the art, only available in the BS size, would be a big selling/collecting point. It's always awesome to learn more about all of this.

Without a doubt.  thumbsup.gif

Yeah, in LA the bus shelter size is popular, and as you said, billboards, etc.  It's really cool seeing all that stuff there, around Sunset Blvd., Hollywood Blvd., etc.  No where else in the country has nearly that much stuff.  Several of the big bus shelter sellers on eBay are based in California.  Even those guys only seem to only get a handful or so, at most, of them for even the big budget movies.

 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 16, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
I knew someone in Sydney who worked for the people that do the shelter displays, I tried to get some back door deal, but he said they were VERY strict with exactly what went where and couldn't sneak anything out.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on July 16, 2015, 12:02:46 AM
You mean they didn't ask/tell you they were going to lot them together?  You got a bum deal there. Its not like he has bus shelter auctions very often...even the "oversized item" auctions rarely have bus shelters.
 
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 16, 2015, 12:20:37 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 16, 2015, 12:02:36 AM
I knew someone in Sydney who worked for the people that do the shelter displays, I tried to get some back door deal, but he said they were VERY strict with exactly what went where and couldn't sneak anything out.

It seems to be a similar trend in the USA, UK, and possibly other countries, also.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 16, 2015, 12:25:06 AM
Quote from: Neo on July 16, 2015, 12:00:44 AM
Yeah, in LA the bus shelter size is popular, and as you said, billboards, etc.  It's really cool seeing all that stuff there, around Sunset Blvd., Hollywood Blvd., etc.  No where else in the country has nearly that much stuff.  Several of the big bus shelter sellers on eBay are based in California.  Even those guys only seem to only get a handful or so, at most, of them for even the big budget movies.

 

You saw it well, Brandon.. as we discussed and I recall.  cool1

Once again... good luck on the sale!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 16, 2015, 12:29:59 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on July 16, 2015, 12:02:46 AM

You mean they didn't ask/tell you they were going to lot them together?  You got a bum deal there. Its not like he has bus shelter auctions very often...even the "oversized item" auctions rarely have bus shelters.
 

Yeah, I don't know their reasoning for listing these in a bulk lot, but I did click the little box on the consignment sheet that says I would allow them to sell stuff in bulk lots.  I may just call them and ask what the deal is with these.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 16, 2015, 12:51:31 PM
Seems they are fixing it for you, Brandon. I got a notice from EMP this AM, saying they were adjusting the listing and breaking it apart!

Congrats!!!

 thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on July 16, 2015, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 16, 2015, 12:51:31 PM
Seems they are fixing it for you, Brandon. I got a notice from EMP this AM, saying they were adjusting the listing and breaking it apart!

Congrats!!!

 thumbsup.gif

They sent a notice out, eh?  That's cool.  I talked to Bruce and Phil this morning, and they're going to list the Attack of the Clones and Tron: Legacy, individually, in the next "really over-sized" auctions, and they're returning the 4 others in that lot.  8)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 16, 2015, 09:50:02 PM
They did ('twas Matt) to all who bid or even looked at the lot, Brandon.  

It said:


"We noticed that there was an issue with an item that we had on auction that you were bidding on (or if you were not bidding, you viewed the auction). The item is 8x247 LOT OF 6 DOUBLE-SIDED BUS STOP POSTERS '10s great images from a variety of different movies!

There was a mis-communication between us and the consignor of this bus stop poster bulk lot. Some of the bus stops needed to be listed individually. Because of this, we have canceled this bulk lot listing. We very much apologize and we hope it isn't too much of an inconvenience."

Nice to see they took care of that for you.  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 16, 2015, 11:15:56 PM
I wonder if I sent every poster I own if it would just be one big lot
"Thousands of crappy posters for films only weirdos like and sane people are too sensible to watch"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on July 16, 2015, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: Ari on July 16, 2015, 11:15:56 PM
I wonder if I sent every poster I own if it would just be one big lot
"Thousands of crappy posters for films only weirdos like and sane people are too sensible to watch"


If you are trying to describe it in a way that will make me want to bid it's working.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2015, 12:04:08 AM
Hear that Bruce? You NEED to employ me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on July 17, 2015, 02:42:08 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 16, 2015, 11:15:56 PM
I wonder if I sent every poster I own if it would just be one big lot
"Thousands of crappy posters for films only weirdos like and sane people are too sensible to watch"


I think they'd just get recycled directly to be the EMP cardboard packaging

 :P

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2015, 02:57:39 AM
Well, probably better than using as insulation for my grandfathers chicken coop as they are currently.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 17, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 17, 2015, 02:57:39 AM
Well, probably better than using as insulation for my grandfathers chicken coop as they are currently.

What an ending...! :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 17, 2015, 04:17:50 AM
What an ending...! :P

nah, its only the beginning, it adds a certain patina, hell even my Dark Knight Rises one sheet looks vintage now :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 17, 2015, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 17, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
nah, its only the beginning, it adds a certain patina, hell even my Dark Knight Rises one sheet looks vintage now :)

You sure it isn't a repro?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on July 17, 2015, 04:30:59 PM
Bet anything would look "vintage" in  a chicken coop... :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on July 17, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
Quote from: Ari on July 17, 2015, 04:40:58 AM
nah, its only the beginning, it adds a certain patina, hell even my Dark Knight Rises one sheet looks vintage now :)

So you were the seller of the dog shit on my poster quad from E-Bay! Getting more ready for a future run with chicken crap this time.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 17, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
Quote from: Undead on July 17, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
So you were the seller of the dog shit on my poster quad from E-Bay! Getting more ready for a future run with chicken crap this time.  ;D

 laugh1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: pratschm on July 17, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
Quote from: Undead on July 17, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
So you were the seller of the dog shit on my poster quad from E-Bay! Getting more ready for a future run with chicken crap this time.  ;D

The auction that will never be forgotten.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2015, 09:16:40 PM
No, that was my uncle, Richard Richards III, I learned from him the mysterious ways of the shite.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on July 17, 2015, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: Ari on July 17, 2015, 09:16:40 PM
No, that was my uncle, Richard Richards III, I learned from him the mysterious ways of the shite.

He was the one buried in the parking lot right?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2015, 11:02:52 PM
you betcha sweet bippy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 18, 2015, 12:30:31 AM
Ms. Davis looks  bed1 on this US WC for That Certain Woman (1937).

BIN for $1120.00 from Benito.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361340124535?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE4OFg3ODg=/z/wTIAAOSwHnFVoh0Z/$_57.JPG)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 19, 2015, 01:28:47 PM
This is one great looking poster of Sir Lee in Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966). The Nistri art of Lee's Dracula, and looking almost photographic from a distance, is top notch.

Good luck on this one, Mike!   thumbsup.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3921268

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150714/550/italian_2p_dracula_prince_of_darkness_SD02682_C.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: bigmike on July 19, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 19, 2015, 01:28:47 PM
This is one great looking poster of Sir Lee in Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966). The Nistri art of Lee's Dracula, and looking almost photographic from a distance, is top notch.

Good luck on this one, Mike!   thumbsup.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3921268

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150714/550/italian_2p_dracula_prince_of_darkness_SD02682_C.jpg)

Thanks Jeff!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: monocle on July 19, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Splendid Dracula poster! However, on a point of etiquette Jeff, I ought to point out that the correct form of address for a British Knight of the Realm is to use their full name when introducing and the first name when addressing in person. So...

'Let me introduce you to Sir Christopher Lee'

'My pleasure Sir Christopher!'

The title and surname are never used together. So 'Sir Lee', 'Sir McCartney', 'Sir Connery' are never used.

When I get my own knighthood, I shall endeavour to remind you all...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on July 19, 2015, 06:20:52 PM
Nice pick up.

http://www.debretts.com/forms-address/titles/knight
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Post by: erik1925 on July 19, 2015, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: bigmike on July 19, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
Thanks Jeff!!

Sure thing, Mike!   :D


and re: "Sir Lee" -- yes, t'isnt proper; t'was having a spot of fun.  8)
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Post by: Ari on July 19, 2015, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: monocle on July 19, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Splendid Dracula poster! However, on a point of etiquette Jeff, I ought to point out that the correct form of address for a British Knight of the Realm is to use their full name when introducing and the first name when addressing in person. So...

'Let me introduce you to Sir Christopher Lee'

'My pleasure Sir Christopher!'

The title and surname are never used together. So 'Sir Lee', 'Sir McCartney', 'Sir Connery' are never used.

When I get my own knighthood, I shall endeavour to remind you all...

You blinkin poms and ya fancy ways, geez, my bloody dingo can bite ya bleedin sirs and dames and you'd bet thankin me for it.


I mean, Thanks for the info, hahaha

I jest.
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Post by: CSM on July 20, 2015, 12:07:07 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 19, 2015, 09:30:24 PM
You blinkin poms and ya fancy ways, geez, my bloody dingo can bite ya bleedin sirs and dames and you'd bet thankin me for it.


I mean, Thanks for the info, hahaha

I jest.


So all the convicts were sent to the colonies right?
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Post by: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
You bet ya bloody bonza bastard.
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Post by: CSM on July 20, 2015, 12:24:34 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:14:17 AM
You bet ya bloody bonza bastard.

Our Canadian lexicon is so comparatively boring...sigh
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Post by: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Eh!
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Post by: CSM on July 20, 2015, 12:34:33 AM
Quote from: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:27:16 AM
Eh!

Well you are an honorary Canadian certainly - as such you are entitled to unlimited use of "eh" in perpetuity
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Post by: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:39:55 AM
Thanks, poutine is on me, oh and a round of clamato juice.
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Post by: monocle on July 20, 2015, 06:36:03 AM
Ah, you never know when you might need such essential info. Back in the 80s I suddenly found myself in the position of having to address a former Archbishop of Canterbury on a train journey between Newcastle upon Tyne and Kings Cross. Needless to say, it is 'Your Grace'. In Australia I believe you can also use, 'Cobber'.
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Post by: Mirosae on July 20, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
A simple "mate" will suffice in London. A more gentle "Luv"  is what the etiquette requires when addressing a  female.
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Post by: erik1925 on July 20, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
Quote from: Ari on July 20, 2015, 12:39:55 AM
Thanks, poutine is on me, oh and a round of clamato juice.

I dont know what poutine is, but it sounds interesting.
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Post by: Mirosae on July 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Don't you love it when a great film has one of the greatest posters? And I love Ballester's "The Man from Laramie..." But this one is pure gold. Can't wait to know how much it will go for

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-6_zpsxth5tnpg.jpeg)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on July 20, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 20, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
I dont know what poutine is, but it sounds interesting.

(http://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pointb-photos/guides/covers/000/000/034/original/poutine.jpg?1427130914)
(http://www.mapoutine.ca/images/poutines/thumbs_420/poutine_640.jpg)
(http://gastrofork.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Regular-Poutine-Montreal-Poutine.jpg)
(http://www.tvqc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/vladimir-poutine.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on July 20, 2015, 10:16:34 PM
Ignore that russian douchebag...poutine is french canadian magic. Awesome!
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Post by: Charlie on July 20, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Don't you love it when a great film has one of the greatest posters? And I love Ballester's "The Man from Laramie..." But this one is pure gold. Can't wait to know how much it will go for

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-6_zpsxth5tnpg.jpeg)

Beautiful poster Rosa!  
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Post by: erik1925 on July 20, 2015, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on July 20, 2015, 10:14:10 PM

(http://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pointb-photos/guides/covers/000/000/034/original/poutine.jpg?1427130914)

(http://www.tvqc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/vladimir-poutine.jpg)


Bril, Vick!  laugh1
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Post by: brude on July 21, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
That Ballester Stagecoach is brilliant.
C'mon Rosa....give it a go.
 cheers
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Post by: erik1925 on July 21, 2015, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: brude on July 21, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
That Ballester Stagecoach is brilliant.
C'mon Rosa....give it a go.
 cheers

That US OS ain't a Ballester, Sir Brude.   ;D
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Post by: brude on July 21, 2015, 12:50:26 AM
Of course it isn't.
 wynk
Its late and I'm tired, confused and conflated...
 imbecile.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on July 21, 2015, 01:13:26 AM
Quote from: brude on July 21, 2015, 12:50:26 AM
Of course it isn't.
 wynk
Its late and I'm tired, confused and conflated...
 imbecile.gif


As long as constipated isn't in the mix... you will be fine!   thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Mirosae on July 21, 2015, 03:23:41 AM
Quote from: brude on July 21, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
That Ballester Stagecoach is brilliant.
C'mon Rosa....give it a go.
 cheers

 YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH SIR!!!  :P On Ebay  yoy can find it on ebay!! (For a price!) ;)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/KGrHqVHJ0EOwq0j9BQTlBIRjw60_35_zpsbuvhhp1l.jpeg)



 

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Post by: Starling on July 21, 2015, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Don't you love it when a great film has one of the greatest posters? And I love Ballester's "The Man from Laramie..." But this one is pure gold. Can't wait to know how much it will go for

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-6_zpsxth5tnpg.jpeg)

I think the US OS tops the Ballester....it just captures the spirit of the film in such a wonderful way.  And the colors and art direction are tops :)
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Post by: brude on July 21, 2015, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 21, 2015, 03:23:41 AM
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/KGrHqVHJ0EOwq0j9BQTlBIRjw60_35_zpsbuvhhp1l.jpeg)

Like I said, "That Ballester Stagecoach is brilliant.
C'mon Rosa....give it a go."

Yeah... that's the ticket...."

(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/the-liar-2-250x169.png)  whip
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Post by: Maulcreem on July 23, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 20, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
Don't you love it when a great film has one of the greatest posters? And I love Ballester's "The Man from Laramie..." But this one is pure gold. Can't wait to know how much it will go for

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-6_zpsxth5tnpg.jpeg)

I started watching this with the now foolish idea of maybe taking a shot at it. Then I saw the opening bid- it's only "a few" months' mortgage.
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Post by: Mirosae on July 24, 2015, 03:51:40 AM
Quote from: Maulcreem on July 23, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
I started watching this with the now foolish idea of maybe taking a shot at it. Then I saw the opening bid- it's only "a few" months' mortgage.

Haha...yes..wish I had the money, bring joy & happiness.  "Those who think money can't buy you happiness don't know where to shop" :P >:D
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Post by: ladeda on July 25, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
I'm sitting out of this one but good luck to all participating in today's sig. auction. bed1
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2015, 03:44:37 PM
Finally got a chance to check the HA catalog...  A couple hours before the sale.

Not too impressed this time around.  Some good stuff but nothing to die for, at least for me.  I will bid on a few items but won't go mad if I don't win.

T
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Post by: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Same here. 1 on my list but won't cry my eyes out if I don't get it...
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on July 25, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
That's me done!
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/Macbethfr_zpsxio2adru.jpeg)

Wim
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Post by: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:24:25 PM
^ That is gorgeous!!!!!
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Post by: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Same here. 1 on my list but won't cry my eyes out if I don't get it...

Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
Ah!  You guys are funny.  I tried 3 times already and failed. 

:(

T
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on July 25, 2015, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)



Some personality!
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2015, 08:32:15 PM
Ah, the crazy world of movie posters...  I bought this for $1,200 from Bruce only a few days ago.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/20014254381_624691a863_o.png)

I assume it will be worth $600 next week.

---

Only one for me so far...  Been waiting for a great condition folded copy of this, which is not that easy to find.  They're all linenbacked.  Finally got it.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/371/20008996185_8f54a31d3a_o.png)

T

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Post by: Neo on July 25, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Very nice wins, y'all.

Rosa, great one there of Mr. Bogart.  It really has the classic, old school vibe with the printing style and all.

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Post by: pratschm on July 25, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)

Nice win, Rosa!!!
You like Humphrey Bogart???                   :P
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2015, 09:32:49 PM
So no one else got anything?  C'mon people, post your gear, we don't bite.

T
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on July 25, 2015, 10:11:58 PM
yes, you do.
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Post by: PwrPencil on July 26, 2015, 12:01:25 AM
I was really happy to get this one:
(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F3%2F0%2F12830891%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: CSM on July 26, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Nice Bogie Rosa!
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on July 26, 2015, 02:32:43 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)



Way to go Rosa!!!  I had a feeling you were looking at those Bogie's....and I love the look and feel of the pebbled linen paper stock!!
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Post by: Mirosae on July 26, 2015, 04:49:33 AM
Thank you all!  I only wanted this one Personality poster (did anyone here get the other Bogie poster?) I nearly went for it but ... ..
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Post by: Mirosae on July 26, 2015, 05:05:03 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2015, 08:32:15 PM

Only one for me so far...  Been waiting for a great condition folded copy of this, which is not that easy to find.  They're all linenbacked.  Finally got it.
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/Mobile%20Uploads/2007-10/Thierry_zpsps2ksqy1.jpg)


Fantastic film. Fantastic poster.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 26, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
Just 2 for me this time around.  I tried to bid this morning but I was having brunch and Heritage's Iphone app is really not up to speed.

Oh well...

T
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Post by: keith on July 26, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 26, 2015, 03:26:08 PM
Just 2 for me this time around.  I tried to bid this morning but I was having brunch and Heritage's Iphone app is really not up to speed.

Oh well...

T

I was trying to bid with the Heritage iPhone app yesterday, and I realized that it's better to just use the Heritage site in mobile Safari. Their app is terrible.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
nice poster Rosa..

sadly I did not win the Double Indemnity insert.. but I'm sure another will come up again
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Post by: 50s on July 26, 2015, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: PwrPencil on July 26, 2015, 12:01:25 AM
I was really happy to get this one:
(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F3%2F0%2F12830891%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


Well done Stephen, good on you!
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Post by: erik1925 on July 27, 2015, 12:37:39 AM
Quote from: PwrPencil on July 26, 2015, 12:01:25 AM
I was really happy to get this one:
(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F8%2F3%2F0%2F12830891%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Way to go Stephen.. congrats.. and a terrific score!   thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Mirosae on July 27, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 26, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
nice poster Rosa..

sadly I did not win the Double Indemnity insert.. but I'm sure another will come up again

@ Rich...I thought you already had that one Rich..or is it the US OS?

@ Stephen. Great poster!!
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Post by: brude on July 27, 2015, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 25, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)


I'm so glad that this went to Bogie's biggest fan!
Congratulations, Rosa!
 cheers
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Post by: DekeThornton on July 28, 2015, 01:57:31 AM
Quote from: brude on July 27, 2015, 10:11:53 PM
I'm so glad that this went to Bogie's biggest fan!
Congratulations, Rosa!
 cheers

I concur!  Really a cool piece, Rosa.

Though I would be afraid to put it on my wall for fear my infant daughter would be subliminally influenced to take up smoking later in life.  Bogie just looks so damn cool holding that cigarette!
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Post by: CSM on July 28, 2015, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: DekeThornton on July 28, 2015, 01:57:31 AM
I concur!  Really a cool piece, Rosa.

Though I would be afraid to put it on my wall for fear my infant daughter would be subliminally influenced to take up smoking later in life.  Bogie just looks so damn cool holding that cigarette!

I'd be more worried about her wanting to wear the Warner Bros shade of lipstick
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Post by: Mirosae on July 28, 2015, 01:16:00 PM
Thank you Ted and Deke..always good to have the blessings from 2 of my favourite collectors! :P
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Post by: Mirosae on July 28, 2015, 01:17:55 PM
Quote from: CSM on July 28, 2015, 10:53:35 AM
I'd be more worried about her wanting to wear the Warner Bros shade of lipstick

Nahhh .. vintage rouge lipstick is the way to go.  :-*
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: monocle on July 30, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
Now that is a splendid Bogart! I assume you have a matching 'Bacall' Rosa?
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Post by: Mirosae on July 30, 2015, 06:05:46 PM
Quote from: monocle on July 30, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
Now that it a splendid Bogart! I assume you have a matching 'Bacall' Rosa?

Yes! :P :-* hehehe
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Post by: mwright on July 30, 2015, 06:06:06 PM
Mine. I'm done.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsrmwri2i0.jpeg)


"Here's looking at you, Rosa..."
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Post by: Mirosae on July 30, 2015, 06:11:01 PM
Oh boy... :P...... hehe
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Post by: stewart boyle on July 31, 2015, 12:54:34 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on July 30, 2015, 06:11:01 PM
Oh boy... :P...... hehe

Beautifull Rosa

Stew
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Post by: Mirosae on July 31, 2015, 03:50:47 AM
Quote from: stewart boyle on July 31, 2015, 12:54:34 AM
Beautifull Rosa

Stew

Thanks Stew!! It is always good to know your views :)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 03, 2015, 06:23:25 PM
Stagecoach (1939); First French release 1P with art by Vandor.  bed1  

Vandor has quite the eye, having also done the art for the early 1930's French RR 1P for Son of the Sheik. His image of Valentino is spectacular and was one of the posters that was auctioned off several years ago, when a law firm in DC, that owned it, had to close its doors and liquidate its impressive poster collection.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAGECOACH-VERY-RARE-ORIGINAL-FRENCH-POSTER-JOHN-WAYNE-/301728786171?hash=item46406fe6fb

BIN: $17,000.00 / OBO

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/stagecoachFR_zpslkd8tixs.jpg)
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Post by: CSM on September 05, 2015, 12:44:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-HEAT-JAMES-CAGNEY-1-RAREST-BEST-FILM-NOIR-MOVIE-POSTER-IN-EXISTENCE-/391249921748?hash=item5b185006d4

Points for the effort!   :D
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Post by: Mirosae on September 05, 2015, 04:15:31 PM
I will give you 22,000 points!! :P
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Post by: erik1925 on September 06, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
Another Attack/50 Ft Woman, linen backed, is on the bay.

Starting bid, (gulp), is : $9999.99   faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATTACK-OF-THE-50-FT-WOMAN-58-LB-1-SHEET-POSTER-ATTACK-OF-THE-50-FOOT-WOMAN-/262036983423?hash=item3d029f0e7f

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/50woman_zps2pmnm182.jpg)
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Post by: brude on September 06, 2015, 02:59:57 PM
I'll never understand the allure of that poster.
Even though giant, near-naked babes are right in my wheelhouse, that poster does nothing for me.
Its far from a Reynold Brown favorite (IMO) and the movie is absolutely terrible (despite a few unintentional moments of hilarity).
I don't get it.
 imbecile.gif
 
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Post by: erik1925 on September 06, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: brude on September 06, 2015, 02:59:57 PM
I'll never understand the allure of that poster.
Even though giant, near-naked babes are right in my wheelhouse, that poster does nothing for me.
Its far from a Reynold Brown favorite (IMO) and the movie is absolutely terrible (despite a few unintentional moments of hilarity).
I don't get it.
 imbecile.gif
 

Agree with you, Ted.

And copies appear for sale or auction ALL the time. So it isn't as tho it is that uber rare.

Must be the 50's appeal as well as the megaton atomic bombs she's carrying. And how tall is she really, on that poster? Several HUNDRED feet? As compared to those on the ground, running around her ;D
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Post by: CSM on September 06, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Oh now we're suddenly going to get critical about 50s sci-fi artwork?!  :D
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Post by: erik1925 on September 06, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 06, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Oh now we're suddenly going to get critical about 50s sci-fi artwork?!  :D

It was discussed on apf before..  :D

Nothing critical, just a re-obseration is all.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: filmposter.net on September 07, 2015, 12:27:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 06, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
And how tall is she really, on that poster? Several HUNDRED feet? As compared to those on the ground, running around her ;D

It's been too long ago, and I don't remember where I found this, but someone out there did an en detail analysis on this poster: Pretty much EVERYTHING is wrong with this one, starting with her limbs, pretty much every dimension is faulty. Still, it works surprisingly well. At least for me it still does.

I like the onesheet, I do not like the insert at all, and I think the one poster to have on this title is the threes-sheet.
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Post by: erik1925 on September 07, 2015, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: filmposter.net on September 07, 2015, 12:27:56 PM
It's been too long ago, and I don't remember where I found this, but someone out there did an en detail analysis on this poster: Pretty much EVERYTHING is wrong with this one, starting with her limbs, pretty much every dimension is faulty. Still, it works surprisingly well. At least for me it still does.

I like the onesheet, I do not like the insert at all, and I think the one poster to have on this title is the threes-sheet.

She works like a charm, Helmut, no doubt about it.  ;D

It was more just the question about her true height (one of many secrets she keeps, no doubt), as compared to the movie title.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:22:43 PM
So there is a good inch missing at the top (the top of the light saber is missing) and at least 2 inches missing at the bottom (Leia's dress should be completely in).  I guess most people don't care but shouldn't it be mentioned or are these subway posters so common it doesn't need to be mentioned anymore?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716)

What is should look like...

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5741/21068758599_de508b8325_z.jpg)

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:27:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:22:43 PM
So there is a good inch missing at the top (the top of the light saber is missing) and at least 2 inches missing at the bottom (Leia's dress should be completely in).  I guess most people don't care but shouldn't it be mentioned or are these subway posters so common it doesn't need to be mentioned anymore?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716)

T

It says this quad measures a full 40x30 inches.  Full size for a quad, right?  (or you're more meaning that the art itself was cropped in order to produce the quad size poster?)
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
Well, it doesn't.  It's probably much closer to 30x37in.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
Well, it doesn't.  It's probably much closer to 30x37in.

T

That's a HUGE oversight on EMP's part, to not have noticed that this quad is so severely trimmed.  faint2.gif
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
I agree.  I mean, the poster is not going to sell for much, but money should not matter.  Accuracy is what it's all about.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
I agree.  I mean, the poster is not going to sell for much, but money should not matter.  Accuracy is what it's all about.

T

Agree 100%. I just emailed Matt over at EMP with your comparative image.

I guess we will see if they pull the auction or not.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:46:16 PM
They probably will, but to be honest, it shouldn't be our job to let them know.  3 or 4 inches is a pretty big difference.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:46:16 PM
They probably will, but to be honest, it shouldn't be our job to let them know.  3 or 4 inches is a pretty big difference.

T

I know.

I mentioned that to him, and asked how that huge difference got by them, too.

I like the overall look of the artwork, but Vader seems a bit weak, to me. The way he is drawn, he almost could be a "Mini-me" Vader.  ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:56:57 PM
I know.

I mentioned that to him, and asked how that huge difference got by them, too.

I have told them many many times about this or that mistake, but it's usually about French posters and I know it can be extremely confusing and I don't expect them to know it all since I don't and I don't know anyone who does.  But this is different and they need to be on top of it, which is why I mentioned it here.

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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 07:02:09 PM
 thumbup thumbup
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 06:22:43 PM
So there is a good inch missing at the top (the top of the light saber is missing) and at least 2 inches missing at the bottom (Leia's dress should be completely in).  I guess most people don't care but shouldn't it be mentioned or are these subway posters so common it doesn't need to be mentioned anymore?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA150901/550/british_quad_return_of_the_jedi_BM02818_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3968716)



What is should look like...

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5741/21068758599_de508b8325_z.jpg)

T

It ran to the end, closing at $331.00.

Maybe tomorrow something will be mentioned about it by EMP.
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Post by: brude on September 08, 2015, 09:09:58 PM
That's a damn shame.
Buyer is probably gonna have a shat-attack when they realize the difference.

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Post by: 50s on September 08, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
SW is not my thing but a quick observation because I have better things to look at  :P , there is a dark thin vertical line in the full size poster but not in the trimmed one. Is it a scuff mark? It is up from bottom right corner crossing the blue & yellow

P.S.I'm on a tiny mobile phone screen, but pretty sure its not lunch splash on screen

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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 09:49:52 PM
I came across this Authentication notation about this same quad on this poster site, They also have the same EMP version for sale: https://originalvintagemovieposters.com/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-original-british-quad-movie-cinema-poster-for-sale/


"Authentication Note: There are two versions of this British Quad, there is a version with the Ewoks directly underneath Han Solo’s body and there is this version without. Noted Star Wars specialists have identified that this version without Ewoks was the first poster released by Lucas film for this film. There are also some printing anomalies to note: some were released 27.5 x 40″ (thought to be made for the London underground) there was the standard quad printed at 30×40″ and another printed at 31×40″.

(https://originalvintagemovieposters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Return-of-the-Jedi-1024x700.jpg)

Here is the link, showing the quad with the redesigned  Kirby art, done by Feref Assoc.

https://originalvintagemovieposters.com/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-original-british-quad-ewok-style-cinema-poster-for-sale/

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/ROJquad_zpsorbyuxeq.jpg)




Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
This looks to be a slightly resized (reduced) image of a WC for the the 1939 Bette Davis movie, Jezebel. It is described as being 11x17 inches. It's too small for a standard WC (14x22) and too large for a midget WC (8x14). And with an asking price of $499.99, and advertised in the "Original" section, it sure seems like the seller might be trying to dupe someone and make some quick, getaway cash.  >:(  And the back of the piece looks too minty white, too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141743869886?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/SkQAAOSwT6pVy3pO/$_12.JPG)  (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/HeIAAOSwu4BVy3pi/$_12.JPG)

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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
I have never seen or heard of a 31x40in.

I own both versions, they are both 30x40in.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5791/21260520405_14db9480e4_z.jpg)(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5741/21068758599_de508b8325_z.jpg)

T
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Post by: CSM on September 08, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
11x17 is usually a giveaway that it is a print
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Post by: CSM on September 08, 2015, 11:37:01 PM
I do believe there was discussion about the size differences in the ROTJ quads somewhere on APF before...
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Post by: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 08, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
11x17 is usually a giveaway that it is a print

Precisely.  thumbup
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Post by: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 11:40:43 PM
Quote from: CSM on September 08, 2015, 11:37:01 PM
I do believe there was discussion about the size differences in the ROTJ quads somewhere on APF before...

Yes, none of this is new, Chris.  Bruce also knows about it.  I even think he was part of the conversation.  Even more reason why it should have been mentioned on EMP.

T
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Post by: CSM on September 08, 2015, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 08, 2015, 11:40:43 PM
Yes, none of this is new, Chris.  Bruce also knows about it.  I even think he was part of the conversation.  Even more reason why it should have been mentioned on EMP.

T

Are you thinking it is trimmed Thierry or an undersized reprint?  Would it not be odd to have several trimmed examples all cut to exactly the same size?
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Post by: paul waines on September 09, 2015, 01:59:22 AM
They aren't trimmed, or re-prints, they are original posters at that size, and Steve is correct, the line he mentions is writing which is on the full size Quad, but not the shorter one.

I'm just off to work or would have checked what mine says...
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Post by: erik1925 on September 09, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
Agree 100%. I just emailed Matt over at EMP with your comparative image.

I guess we will see if they pull the auction or not.

I got an email back from Matt over at EMP this morning. He wrote:

"This quad measures 27 1/2" x 40". Obviously, this should have been added to the auction along with the following note.

"Note that this British quad measures 27 1/2" x 40". According to Star Wars experts, many original British quads from this title (and other titles of this time period) measure this size (the accepted reason is that there were quads made this size for use in the London Underground), but that there are also some British quads that measure the full 30" x 40" (in some cases, those full-sized ones may only be "printer's proofs")."

We will be contacting the winning bidder with this information."

So the quad is not trimmed but is one of the other sizes that was produced for this title, as mentioned previously.


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Post by: brude on September 09, 2015, 05:28:26 PM
I've found this entire SW Kirby quad auction incident a bit disturbing.
Don't get me wrong -- I love Bruce and the team for all the hard work they do, but I'm thinking they might need an ombudsman?

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Post by: eatbrie on September 17, 2015, 08:18:42 PM
It only takes TWO people.  I really hope one of them is the seller...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3978937 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3978937)

 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 17, 2015, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 17, 2015, 08:18:42 PM
It only takes TWO people.  I really hope one of them is the seller...

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3978937 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3978937)

 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1 sm1

T

That's a whole lotta pressbook goin' on!   faint2.gif
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Post by: eatbrie on September 17, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
It looks like I'm not the only one to like Bardot.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3979504 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3979504)

It's a great poster, I have to say, one of my favs.

T
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Post by: hepcatpunk on September 17, 2015, 10:29:14 PM
Have to say I've been a bit disappointed in the conditions of a lot of the modern posters (speaking of the rolled 80's and newer ones) Bruce has had up for auction lately.  Since most aren't that rare, if it's not in Very Good to Fine or better, there's really no point, at least to me, in bidding.  A lot of good to very good and worse the past month or so....bleh.
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Post by: brude on September 17, 2015, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 17, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
It looks like I'm not the only one to like Bardot.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3979504 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3979504)

It's a great poster, I have to say, one of my favs.

T

Yowza.
That's a lot of money.
Call me a slope-brow, but I prefer my Americanized version with art by Jon Whitcomb.  wynk

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/PARISIENNE.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/brude2000/media/PARISIENNE.jpg.html)

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Post by: erik1925 on September 17, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on September 17, 2015, 10:29:14 PM
Have to say I've been a bit disappointed in the conditions of a lot of the modern posters (speaking of the rolled 80's and newer ones) Bruce has had up for auction lately.  Since most aren't that rare, if it's not in Very Good to Fine or better, there's really no point, at least to me, in bidding.  A lot of good to very good and worse the past month or so....bleh.

Yeah.. when it comes to the moderns...many want their posters to be as close to mint as possible.

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Post by: erik1925 on September 17, 2015, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: brude on September 17, 2015, 10:41:31 PM
Yowza.
That's a lot of money.
Call me a slope-brow, but I prefer my Americanized version with art by Jon Whitcomb.  wynk

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/PARISIENNE.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/brude2000/media/PARISIENNE.jpg.html)



That poster is a knockout, Ted.  cool1
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Post by: 110x75 on September 17, 2015, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: brude on September 17, 2015, 10:41:31 PM
Yowza.
That's a lot of money.
Call me a slope-brow, but I prefer my Americanized version with BOOBS by Jon Whitcomb.  wynk


 :P
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Post by: 50s on September 17, 2015, 11:47:42 PM
I'd go for your one as well Ted as she is happier and falling out of her top, but if the EMP poster didn't have foxing, for me, it would be a close call... Semi see thru top plus a very decent set of pins
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Post by: eatbrie on September 18, 2015, 02:15:07 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 17, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Yeah.. when it comes to the moderns...many want their posters to be as close to mint as possible.



Not as close to mint... just mint, period.  Any US poster post 1985 should be rolled and mint.  I do not buy any Good to Very Good posters from Bruce post 1985.

T
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Post by: filmposter.net on September 18, 2015, 01:21:20 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 08, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
This looks to be a slightly resized (reduced) image of a WC for the the 1939 Bette Davis movie, Jezebel. It is described as being 11x17 inches. It's too small for a standard WC (14x22) and too large for a midget WC (8x14). And with an asking price of $499.99, and advertised in the "Original" section, it sure seems like the seller might be trying to dupe someone and make some quick, getaway cash.  >:(  And the back of the piece looks too minty white, too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141743869886?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


It's quite obviously a MasterPrint reproduction. The seller probably thinks it's real. Did you take the time to tell about this?
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Post by: erik1925 on September 18, 2015, 01:35:20 PM
I wrote the seller, who politely, but with determination, said they felt it was real.

I even sent them links from HA and LAMP, that discussed movie poster sizes, that were made back in the day. Trying to show them that nothing was made in the 11x17 size.

The item is still listed on the bay, described as genuine.  :-\
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Post by: Neo on September 18, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on September 17, 2015, 10:29:14 PM
Have to say I've been a bit disappointed in the conditions of a lot of the modern posters (speaking of the rolled 80's and newer ones) Bruce has had up for auction lately.  Since most aren't that rare, if it's not in Very Good to Fine or better, there's really no point, at least to me, in bidding.  A lot of good to very good and worse the past month or so....bleh.

With eMovie, their grading on newer stuff is much stricter than almost anywhere.  On a lot of these moderns, they are in near perfect condition, and many only have a few minor dings, tiny amount of edge wear, etc.  It's the kind of thing one would have to really look for just to see these very minor issues, and of course, it's just the kind of wear that one would expect from handling. Ultimately, eMovie definitely errs on the side of caution with grading, especially on the newer material.

In the current Thursday auction, there are a few one sheets that I received directly from the distributor, and decided to send them off as I have very little storage space.  They are in the exact condition I received them in, and eMovie graded them "good" and "good-very good."  They don't even list all the minor wear on the newer stuff like that, as it's standard for material to be in that condition.  In my experience, it's exceptionally rare, even with the newer stuff, to receive something in "near mint" condition, and it's understandable why those often command a premium for their exceptional condition.
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Post by: Mirosae on September 18, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Neo on September 18, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
With eMovie, their grading on newer stuff is much stricter than almost anywhere.

Agree, although i do think they are stritc  with any posters (new or vintage). I remember when I bought a WC from eMovie described as "good" . I decided to get it and was surprised to see it in person as its condition looked better than described. In fact I really struggled to find all the described issues. To this day I think it is one of my best posters.
Needless to say that I welcome that sort of descriptions.
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Post by: filmposter.net on September 19, 2015, 08:48:08 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 18, 2015, 01:35:20 PM
I wrote the seller, who politely, but with determination, said they felt it was real.

I even sent them links from HA and LAMP, that discussed movie poster sizes, that were made back in the day. Trying to show them that nothing was made in the 11x17 size.

The item is still listed on the bay, described as genuine.  :-\

I just sent them another message and this link:

http://www.autographworld.com/masterprints/show2.asp?item=01443

If they still keep it on, they are indeed crooks.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 19, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: Neo on September 18, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
With eMovie, their grading on newer stuff is much stricter than almost anywhere.  On a lot of these moderns, they are in near perfect condition, and many only have a few minor dings, tiny amount of edge wear, etc.  It's the kind of thing one would have to really look for just to see these very minor issues, and of course, it's just the kind of wear that one would expect from handling. Ultimately, eMovie definitely errs on the side of caution with grading, especially on the newer material.

In the current Thursday auction, there are a few one sheets that I received directly from the distributor, and decided to send them off as I have very little storage space.  They are in the exact condition I received them in, and eMovie graded them "good" and "good-very good."  They don't even list all the minor wear on the newer stuff like that, as it's standard for material to be in that condition.  In my experience, it's exceptionally rare, even with the newer stuff, to receive something in "near mint" condition, and it's understandable why those often command a premium for their exceptional condition.

It's really not that hard, Brandon.  Dale does it.  Consistently.  I wish he had more inventory when it comes to newer stuff, because it forces me to look elsewhere and 99% of sellers do not understand what mint means, even though they list their gear as mint.  I return or trash posters more often than not for poor handling or bad packaging.  I don't want any marks of any kind on my posters, and I sometimes think that Bruce's grading is not strict enough.

T
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Post by: Neo on September 19, 2015, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 19, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
It's really not that hard, Brandon.  Dale does it.  Consistently.  I wish he had more inventory when it comes to newer stuff, because it forces me to look elsewhere and 99% of sellers do not understand what mint means, even though they list their gear as mint.  I return or trash posters more often than not for poor handling or bad packaging.  I don't want any marks of any kind on my posters, and I sometimes think that Bruce's grading is not strict enough.

T

Someone like Dale may have a good connection, with fewer middle men.  A lot of the stuff that eMovie gets has probably been from collectors, thus there are probably more middle men.  Of course, the additional handling, and shipping (often times with less than perfect packaging), causes a little damage.  Even when I have acquired stuff from the distributor, which is likely only one person between the printer and my humble abode, it's almost always less than "mint."

For people who are really concerned with their gear being in near mint condition, the perfect venue would be someone who acquires stuff directly from the printer, completely bypassing any middle men, and assuming their packaging and shipping were done with care, much of it would be closer to perfect condition.
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Post by: paul waines on September 20, 2015, 03:48:45 AM
I'm with Neo on this. The fellow who gets my new stuff has had posters arrive to him in damaged condition, and not through bad packing or Postal damage. He opened a newly arrived tube in front of me once only to find all three posters were torn...

If one knew the printers where posters printed up, that would be the place to get them..  I'm not saying every poster that ends up at a Cinema is in bad condition, just it would be less likely to have been damaged if it was direct from a Printers. 
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Post by: erik1925 on September 20, 2015, 04:35:13 AM
Quote from: paul waines on September 20, 2015, 03:48:45 AM
I'm with Neo on this. The fellow who gets my new stuff has had posters arrive to him in damaged condition, and not through bad packing or Postal damage. He opened a newly arrived tube in front of me once only to find all three posters were torn...

If one knew the printers where posters printed up, that would be the place to get them..  I'm not saying every poster that ends up at a Cinema is in bad condition, just it would be less likely to have been damaged if it was direct from a Printers. 

So true, Paul. Less sets of hands touching or packaging them, sorting etc means they are closer to mint, which = "hot off the presses."
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Post by: erik1925 on September 20, 2015, 04:55:22 PM
Coming in Nov at HA!   faint2.gif  bed1

Im sure this may go for a pretty penny.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/coming-soon-/p/7113-47001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F1%2F9%2F3%2F13193240%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: ladeda on September 21, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
Wow! I can't imagine much else will top Jezebel.
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Post by: erik1925 on September 27, 2015, 12:29:00 AM
Not mid auction... but a BIN...

This linen backed, French piece for The Garden of Allah (1936), measuring 94x126 inches. ........  faint2.gif bed1

Art by Jean A. Mercier

BIN: $10,000.00 / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARDEN-OF-ALLAH-ORIGINAL-FRENCH-POSTER-VERY-RARE/321767496466?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122153519%26meid%3Dd69f568030ba4225b085a34e5bab1f5e%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D301728786171

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Allah_zpsemmf9u3d.jpg)

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Post by: monocle on September 27, 2015, 09:32:03 AM
That Bardot is a delight!
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Post by: Ari on September 28, 2015, 09:25:12 PM
Here you go, good prices,

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=moondollar007&item=171950690315&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhell+drivers.TRS0&_nkw=hell+drivers&_sacat=0

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Post by: erik1925 on September 30, 2015, 12:35:32 AM
This one's for you, Ari. I know how you feel about these kinds of "PP" posters!   ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191704142655?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/$(KGrHqR,!hwFBfJJdl!uBQm(Jbccjg~~60_12.JPG)
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Post by: Ari on September 30, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yikes, thanks
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Post by: erik1925 on September 30, 2015, 01:40:59 AM
Quote from: Ari on September 30, 2015, 01:32:33 AM
Yikes, thanks

 notworthy.gif
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Post by: Mirosae on September 30, 2015, 02:43:58 PM
OMG..... OMG... !!!!! What a feast is coming up for auction... donations accepted at  #giveit2Rosa.com (#post_giveit2Rosacom)

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/8effccca1b72e72be0c7c82958a926a5b4fabb8e02de1cfb34781bcd67cdb994_zpsxajjgfpu.jpg)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on September 30, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on September 30, 2015, 02:43:58 PM
OMG..... OMG... !!!!! What a feast is coming up for auction... donations accepted at  #giveit2Rosa.com (#post_giveit2Rosacom)
[/img]

giveittorosa.com = NSFW
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Post by: Mirosae on September 30, 2015, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on September 30, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
giveittorosa.com = NSFW

Haha  :-*
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Post by: crowzilla on September 30, 2015, 09:27:08 PM
Rosa, are you talking about the beautiful Casablanca?
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on September 30, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Finally!!! clap clap clap

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/redheadedwoman_zpsb83y05qx.jpeg)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 30, 2015, 11:17:11 PM
That is One heck of a beautiful stone litho!! And looks to be in incredible condition.

 jawdrop is right!!

 clap clap
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Post by: Starling on September 30, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on September 30, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Finally!!! clap clap clap

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/redheadedwoman_zpsb83y05qx.jpeg)

That's some precode gorgeousness right there. Yowza.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 01, 2015, 12:05:01 AM
Pre-code AND Harlow..

One cannot go wrong, right, B?


 :D
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Post by: Mirosae on October 01, 2015, 01:48:08 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 30, 2015, 09:27:08 PM
Rosa, are you talking about the beautiful Casablanca?


You know me too well Sir :P ... and did I hear Tokyo Joe? :-*

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Post by: Mirosae on October 01, 2015, 02:13:48 AM
Quote from: Starling on September 30, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
That's some precode gorgeousness right there. Yowza.

Love the fact you point this is a precode...with a Script  by the one and Only Anita Loos!!


Lillian 'Lil': Sally, I'm the happiest girl in the world. I'm in love and I'm gonna be married.

Sally: You're gonna marry Albert?

Lillian 'Lil': No, Gaerste.

Sally: In love with Gaerste?

Lillian 'Lil': No, Albert. Besides, I always did wanna learn french.

Sally: Oh, why don't you get yourself a laundryman and learn chinese?

 ;)
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Post by: marklawd on October 01, 2015, 03:43:26 AM
What a stunning poster!

Mark
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on October 01, 2015, 06:38:39 AM
There is no reserve posted yet at Heritage ... Something to consider...that color would have probably faded relatively fast if it had seen any direct sunlight.. in the first half of the 20th century red commercial printing was such a volatile color ...so if this piece wasn't punched up or restored heavily...I would think it should fetch in the mid 5 figures...somewhere between $30-$60 K

It is truly one of the gems of the hobby...congrats to Heritage for getting to handle another iconic piece!!
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Post by: oldposterho on October 01, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
Gorgeous.

Finally did a pass through the upcoming HA auction and is it just me or is it Bond, Bond, Bond?  It looks like my usual Bond posters bathroom break is going to be much longer than usual this time.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 01, 2015, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on October 01, 2015, 06:38:39 AM
There is no reserve posted yet at Heritage ... Something to consider...that color would have probably faded relatively fast if it had seen any direct sunlight.. in the first half of the 20th century red commercial printing was such a volatile color ...so if this piece wasn't punched up or restored heavily...I would think it should fetch in the mid 5 figures...somewhere between $30-$60 K

It is truly one of the gems of the hobby...congrats to Heritage for getting to handle another iconic piece!!

I hope the overall color on this poster hasn't been "punched up," either. Even if the red is a little less vibrant than that shown, I would rather see this poster in its true state, rather than made "a bit more pretty" for the online and/or printed catalogs. (And i mean on this or any poster, offered by any auction house or seller, in general, too).
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Post by: ladeda on October 01, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
I never 'got' the appeal of Jean Harlow... until I watched Red Headed Woman. faint2.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on October 01, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
She is also fantastic in Dinner At Eight (1933).

This is probably one of the first flickers I say her in.. and was blown away. She's got wonderful comedic timing, too.
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Post by: Mirosae on October 01, 2015, 02:58:05 PM
Quote from: ladeda on October 01, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
I never 'got' the appeal of Jean Harlow... until I watched Red Headed Woman. faint2.gif

I had the same but my film was "Hold your Man".. Jean Harlow and Gable. Boy that film is just incredible. I have "borrowed" some of the dialogues from that film in the past  :P
Eddie:Here, I'll show you the bedroom.
Ruby:You can send me a picture.


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Post by: erik1925 on October 01, 2015, 06:38:05 PM
Gotta love Kate, too! From 1933.  bed1  

(And she's loving Dr. Henry Frankenstein  thumbsup.gif)

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F1%2F9%2F3%2F13193222%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)



As well as Marlene. This poster is just incredible, imo.  A stunning, pre war Belgian, from 1932.

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F5%2F0%2F13250635%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 02, 2015, 04:37:08 PM
Beautiful, and a true one of a kind. The original Charles Moll artwork used for the US 40x60s (and others) for The Sting.  faint2.gif  clap clap

BIN: $11,995.00 / obo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-STING-CineMasterpieces-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-ART-ARTWORK-ARTIST-CHARLES-MOLL-/181890455571?hash=item2a59841813

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zpsredtkcgs.jpg)
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Post by: monocle on October 02, 2015, 09:15:07 PM
Love the 'Shanghai Express' poster! A touch of expressionism perhaps?
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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 06, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
A few Russians tonight have a blanket description "There are some edge pinholes, dot stains, smudges, areas of darkening and creases scattered in various areas, typical of Russian posters of this period"  They are mostly for late 50s posters.  Why are my spidey senses tingling here? 
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Post by: Charlie on October 07, 2015, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 01, 2015, 06:38:05 PM
Gotta love Kate, too! From 1933.  bed1  

(And she's loving Dr. Henry Frankenstein  thumbsup.gif)

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F1%2F9%2F3%2F13193222%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

 bed1
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Post by: erik1925 on October 07, 2015, 12:34:58 PM
Son Of Frankenstein UK 6 sheet (1939)  

'Tis beautious, Paul.  ;) )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Son-of-Frankenstein-UK-6Sht-Poster-Karloff-Universal-Horror-extra-/181892892738?hash=item2a59a94842

Open bid: GBP 5,000.00 (Approx US $7,605.75 USD)

And Free shipping!!  thumbsup.gif

(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/SAM_1364_2_zpsvn6attuo.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/detail_zpsmichkykt.jpg)
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Post by: Ari on October 13, 2015, 01:08:47 AM
Disclaimer (ITS MY POSTER)

But I have listed this, I don't know HOW many times, never a bid.

and now two people fighting for it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201444169000?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

Goes to show (something)

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Post by: erik1925 on October 13, 2015, 01:13:08 AM
Go, Ari!

What's the title of the flicker?

(Edit.. Oops.. i see it now... Sweet Home).  ;D

(http://img2.iwascoding.com/0/2015/09/02/6F/797532DA49DD4900A1A3F0379A742D08.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2015, 02:22:15 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 07, 2015, 12:34:58 PM
Son Of Frankenstein UK 6 sheet (1939)  

'Tis beautious, Paul.  ;) )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Son-of-Frankenstein-UK-6Sht-Poster-Karloff-Universal-Horror-extra-/181892892738?hash=item2a59a94842

Open bid: GBP 5,000.00 (Approx US $7,605.75 USD)

And Free shipping!!  thumbsup.gif

(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/SAM_1364_2_zpsvn6attuo.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/detail_zpsmichkykt.jpg)


I believe the top portion is a recreation, ergo the cheap price
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Post by: erik1925 on October 13, 2015, 02:27:18 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2015, 02:22:15 AM
I believe the top portion is a recreation, ergo the cheap price

This was noted at the outset of this item being presented on APF.  ;)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,10058.0.html
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Post by: Mirosae on October 13, 2015, 04:19:22 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 13, 2015, 01:08:47 AM
Disclaimer (ITS MY POSTER)

But I have listed this, I don't know HOW many times, never a bid.

and now two people fighting for it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201444169000?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

Goes to show (something)




Aren't you having fun! It is a handsome poster indeed! Do you have a minimum price in mind? Just curious

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Post by: 50s on October 13, 2015, 04:37:02 AM
I excuse Rich for his oversite if the result is a 2nd auction for this year  ;)

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Post by: Ari on October 13, 2015, 04:53:30 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 13, 2015, 04:19:22 AM

Aren't you having fun! It is a handsome poster indeed! Do you have a minimum price in mind? Just curious



started at $19.99
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Post by: Mirosae on October 13, 2015, 08:42:07 AM
Quote from: Ari on October 13, 2015, 04:53:30 AM
started at $19.99


Good for you Ari, hope the " battle" goes on for a while..can't believe i am on the dealer side...bur I guess I can make an exception! :P

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Post by: Ari on October 13, 2015, 08:43:36 AM
haha, Its cool, I was happy it got one bid. Im not greedy. Ill send the winner a freebie anyway (often do)
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Post by: Mirosae on October 13, 2015, 08:48:25 AM
Really? That's very kind of you. I never got any freebies from my dealers ....uhm...

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Post by: erik1925 on October 13, 2015, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2015, 04:37:02 AM
I excuse Rich for his oversite if the result is a 2nd auction for this year  ;)



 ;D ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 13, 2015, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 13, 2015, 04:37:02 AM
I excuse Rich for his oversite if the result is a 2nd auction for this year  ;)



3rd auction, I had one in January.... :P
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Post by: erik1925 on October 13, 2015, 12:56:30 PM
 clap clap clap clap
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Post by: erik1925 on October 15, 2015, 02:11:57 PM
Mama mia!   bed1

Argentine OS for The Raven (1935)

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-raven-universal-1935-argentinean-poster-2925-x-4325-/p/7113-84016.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F1%2F13291604%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)



Swedish full bleed OS for Bride of Frank (1935):

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-bride-of-frankenstein-universal-1935-full-bleed-swedish-one-sheet-27-x-3925-/p/7113-84004.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F1%2F13291598%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

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Post by: 50s on October 26, 2015, 07:40:53 PM
Censors this week missed this one

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151022/550/canadian_1sh_apres_ski_SD03417_C.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025177)


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Post by: Harry Caul on October 26, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 26, 2015, 07:40:53 PM
Censors this week missed this one

Looks like they missed two!
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Post by: 50s on October 26, 2015, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on October 26, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
Looks like they missed two!

I think Bruce would have gone all the way for a trifecta.

The bunny tail would save for additional work also.

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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 26, 2015, 09:37:04 PM
that a bunny tail or the pompom at the end of her tuque?
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Post by: 50s on October 26, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on October 26, 2015, 09:37:04 PM
that a bunny tail or the pompom at the end of her tuque?

Haha, you are correct   :D

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Post by: Mirosae on October 27, 2015, 03:01:44 AM
I never liked moustaches.. :P.

Steve...you have an eye! ;)
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Post by: monocle on October 27, 2015, 08:14:28 AM
I do like that Swedish 'Bride' poster Jeff. And let's not cast aspersions on moustaches...
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Post by: hepcatpunk on October 27, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Surely they made a mistake on the condition grade of this one?  Yowzers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 27, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on October 27, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Surely they made a mistake on the condition grade of this one?  Yowzers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363)

Are you saying a mistake in a good or bad way?

EMP certainly gives a detailed description of all the flaws and condtion issues with this one. And it seems to have quite a few.
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2015, 03:46:02 PM
It's probably just a typo, that they labeled it "very good to fine."  I sent them an email about it.
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Post by: Mirosae on October 27, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on October 27, 2015, 03:34:38 PM
Surely they made a mistake on the condition grade of this one?  Yowzers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4025363)

Well spotted
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Post by: jayn_j on October 27, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: Neo on October 27, 2015, 03:46:02 PM
It's probably just a typo, that they labeled it "very good to fine."  I sent them an email about it.

It's now labeled "good", which seems appropriate.  Current price seems fair for condition as well, although a bit high for my tastes.
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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2015, 05:15:01 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on October 27, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
It's now labeled "good", which seems appropriate.  Current price seems fair for condition as well, although a bit high for my tastes.

They just sent me an email, saying the original grade was a mistake, and that they updated the listing and informed the bidders of the change.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 27, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
 clap clap clap clap
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Post by: hepcatpunk on October 27, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
Top notch!
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Post by: Mirosae on October 27, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Well done Neo. I wondered how many people actually report these things?  I never cared much for descriptions as I tend to scrutinise the paper first and make my own mind up. Usually read it after I have a good look.

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Post by: Neo on October 27, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on October 27, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
Well done Neo. I wondered how many people actually report these things?  I never cared much for descriptions as I tend to scrutinise the paper first and make my own mind up. Usually read it after I have a good look.



No big deal.  As you said, HP had the good eye for spotting it. 

Jeff has mentioned that he sends the eMovie team info. about various things.  I occasionally send them a factoid about some of their current auctions.  They always seem to appreciate when people do that.

I think the way they do it is best, with good descriptions in addition to good photos.  Photos don't always say 1,000 words.  A lot of times, things like mold, water damage, discoloring (all of which I strongly dislike), etc., can not be seen in a photo, and the eMovie descriptions always include issues like that.
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Post by: mwright on October 28, 2015, 10:26:01 PM
Does anybody know when Bruce will put up the preview for Part III of the Halloween auction?
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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 28, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
probably after the thursday auction...patience young grasshopper
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Post by: Mirosae on October 29, 2015, 06:39:19 AM
Im waiting for Profiles in history...to publish the catalogue for the Dec ...they are taking their time.. waiting1
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Post by: oldposterho on October 29, 2015, 10:40:13 AM
Yeah, me too, Rosa.  Come on PiH guys, wth?  I'm actually thinking of making the drive down there (10+ hours) for this one as I'm hoping the lobbies I've been waiting for will show up in this auction.  If they'd just make it clear on how (or if) shipping is available it would definitely be a good thing.  Guess I could call and find out at some point, but seriously...?
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Post by: Mirosae on October 29, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: oldposterho on October 29, 2015, 10:40:13 AM
Yeah, me too, Rosa.  Come on PiH guys, wth?  I'm actually thinking of making the drive down there (10+ hours) for this one as I'm hoping the lobbies I've been waiting for will show up in this auction.  If they'd just make it clear on how (or if) shipping is available it would definitely be a good thing.  Guess I could call and find out at some point, but seriously...?

It sounds like a good plan to me Peter. And yes.. I emailed the team already twice.. I think they want to get all the pics up at the same time. Which I do not understand, HA has the (good) habit of posting posters as they come along.. I am not very good at waiting... :P

Hope you get your LCs!!   I am after a *********   yeeeeeeees..hehehe :-X :P ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 29, 2015, 02:29:53 PM
Will be curious to see how Jezebel lands, when all is said and done. Currently, she's set at $2500.00

Beautiful Ms Davis...  bed1

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/drama/jezebel-warner-brothers-1938-one-sheet-27-x-41-/a/7113-86080.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F1%2F9%2F3%2F13193240%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 29, 2015, 03:22:48 PM
Tonight's EMP auction has a number of posters from the estate of the late Lee Sanders, longtime Hollywood projectionist and movie poster collector. 

Here's a video, seems like he was a nice fella.

https://vimeo.com/105832824
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Post by: Mirosae on October 29, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on October 29, 2015, 03:22:48 PM
Tonight's EMP auction has a number of posters from the estate of the late Lee Sanders, longtime Hollywood projectionist and movie poster collector. 

Here's a video, seems like he was a nice fella.

https://vimeo.com/105832824


Oh boy...i got emotional watching this... :P thanks for sharing!!
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Post by: jedgerley on October 29, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
A rare and early Lenticular!  Nope......just a typo. Phil has been notified.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032297
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Post by: erik1925 on October 30, 2015, 12:16:15 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on October 29, 2015, 11:32:30 PM
A rare and early Lenticular!  Nope......just a typo. Phil has been notified.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032297

So it's not rare? LOL. Which part is the typo?
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on October 30, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
Quote from: oldposterho on October 29, 2015, 10:40:13 AM
Yeah, me too, Rosa.  Come on PiH guys, wth?  I'm actually thinking of making the drive down there (10+ hours) for this one as I'm hoping the lobbies I've been waiting for will show up in this auction.  If they'd just make it clear on how (or if) shipping is available it would definitely be a good thing.  Guess I could call and find out at some point, but seriously...?

I had no idea about their shipping either for Morrie's 1st auction but I just bid anyway...they sent me an invoice with shipping for $50...i didn't have to ask or arrange anything ....I think it was FEDEx priority and it was packed well...went out a few days after paying....quick and painless...
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Post by: Mirosae on October 30, 2015, 03:57:52 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on October 30, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
I had no idea about their shipping either for Morrie's 1st auction but I just bid anyway...they sent me an invoice with shipping for $50...i didn't have to ask or arrange anything ....I think it was FEDEx priority and it was packed well...went out a few days after paying....quick and painless...

That's good to know Tait. Thanks. I tried to get an idea of the Int prices there but got nowhere. Must say, last time (with HA) I disputed the shipping costs and managed to get it all for a very reasonable amount. I think it was $46 intern with Fedex. Anyway..good luck both with your bidding!
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Post by: oldposterho on October 30, 2015, 04:01:04 PM
That is indeed good to know, Flc.  Thanks for the info.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 31, 2015, 03:00:10 PM
Another really great looking WC, for It Happened One Night (1934).  Currently at $1250.00

Tho im not liking the fact that the top imprint area was airbrushed over, and what was printed there originally, can be seen showing slightly thru the paint. Either cover it over all the way, or not at all.  But, to me, that original info should have been left uncovered.

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/academy-award-winner/it-happened-one-night-columbia-1934-window-card-14-x-22-/a/7113-86009.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F5%2F13295396%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Neo on October 31, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 31, 2015, 03:00:10 PM

Either cover it over all the way, or not at all.  But, to me, that original info should have been left uncovered.


Still a very nice piece, but yeah, that really is half-hearted work.  The original screening info. is a nice touch on a lot of those window cards. 
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Post by: Mirosae on October 31, 2015, 05:25:23 PM
Quote from: Neo on October 31, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Still a very nice piece, but yeah, that really is half-hearted work.  The original screening info. is a nice touch on a lot of those window cards.  

Same WC was sold in 2010. It didn't stop the buyer last time doubt will stop them now.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 31, 2015, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Neo on October 31, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Still a very nice piece, but yeah, that really is half-hearted work. The original screening info. is a nice touch on a lot of those window cards.  

I agree. Almost like it was a quick "toss away" job.

It could always be re-restored by taking it and having that paint layer removed, and hopefully being able to rescue the printed or stamped text beneath.
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Post by: Gingerman on October 31, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 31, 2015, 06:43:26 PM
I agree. Almost like it was a quick "toss away" job.

It could always be re-restored by taking it and having that paint layer removed, and hopefully being able to rescue the printed or stamped text beneath.

I personally do not own any window cards, yet..... I will admit looking at the latest batch of windows on emp, I think I prefer the ttheater info left as is.....
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Post by: erik1925 on November 02, 2015, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Gingerman on October 31, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
I personally do not own any window cards, yet..... I will admit looking at the latest batch of windows on emp, I think I prefer the ttheater info left as is.....

If imprinted with play dates, times and the names of the theater and city, I agree. It's another element that adds so much to the history of a piece like that.
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Post by: brude on November 02, 2015, 09:59:15 PM
Oh stop it.
Window cards and locandinas were made to be be trimmed.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JAGVV4EKvk8/UpS-RfDOEXI/AAAAAAAAPKs/oWm4n_T4XtU/s1600/pitchforks.gif)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 04, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
SPECTACULAR LOBBIES AT EMOVIEPOSTER!!!!!!!!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_revolt_of_the_zombies_tc_TB01499_C_zpszzmnz7dz.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034195 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034195)

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_london_after_midnight_TB01673_C_zpskt7bymqj.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034265 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034265)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 04, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
And of course this BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_mystery_of_the_wax_museum_num2_TB01395_C_zpsdn7fuwuh.jpg)
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Post by: Starling on November 04, 2015, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on November 04, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
And of course this BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_mystery_of_the_wax_museum_num2_TB01395_C_zpsdn7fuwuh.jpg)

This one, I love.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 04, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on November 04, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
SPECTACULAR LOBBIES AT EMOVIEPOSTER!!!!!!!!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_revolt_of_the_zombies_tc_TB01499_C_zpszzmnz7dz.jpg)



What a selection overall at EMP!  faint2.gif

This one is a real eye catcher, for sure!
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Post by: Mirosae on November 05, 2015, 07:46:50 AM
This is such a wonderful description. It invites you to celebrate, rejoy and (pay). It just makes me happy to read this.  

Tarzan the Ape Man (MGM, 1932). One Sheet (27" X 41") Style D.
Here it is! The first time we have ever seen the other style one sheet for the first Johnny Weissmuller Tarzan film. Never seen for decades, this original 1932 poster (unlike the other style one sheet) actually portrays Weissmuller and co-star Maureen O'Sullivan as they appear in the film. The discovery of the only known copy of this one sheet is incredible! Based on the famous adventure novels by Edgar Rice Burroughs, this initial entry into MGM's series was a tremendous success, with a total of six films done at the studio starring Weissmuller and O'Sullivan. Weissmuller then went on to RKO to make six more! Although there were previous Tarzan films, the MGM versions achieved the greatest popularity with movie audiences.

Prior to the excellent restoration, there were pinholes in the bottom corners and one each in the background corners, There was a small chip in the "T" of Tarzan and a small chip in the second "A" of Tarzan in the titles. There were very small bits of paper loss in Weissmuller's arm and in O'Sullivan's cheek. There has been minor touchup to the folds. The stone litho poster has retained its extraordinary brilliance of color and is in incredible condition. Very Fine on Linen.
Estimate: $40,000 - $80,000.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-5_zpsqyzawccq.jpeg)

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Post by: oldposterho on November 05, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Christmas is right around the corner so for those of you who are still wondering what to get me, (you know who you are), this Tarzan poster would go a long way towards forgiving past oversights...
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Post by: erik1925 on November 05, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
One for ladeda, too.  ;D 

This is Such a great image of Muni!

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/crime/scarface-titanus-r-1949-italian-2-foglio-39-x-55-/a/7113-86071.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F1%2F13291624%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
You think? Disagree completely. Geleng has done so much better. It does not look quite like Muni and it is just as the portrait was finished and somebody decided that they needed a lot of slime green from some kind of misguided impression it was a cheap horror flick.
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Post by: Mirosae on November 05, 2015, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: oldposterho on November 05, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Christmas is right around the corner so for those of you who are still wondering what to get me, (you know who you are), this Tarzan poster would go a long way towards forgiving past oversights...

Haha...yes. i agree too :)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 05, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
The green face doesn't bother me, as there are any number of examples (other IT or Mexican posters) where vivid colors were used as face tones.

And I think it's also a very recognizable image of Muni.

I like it.  thumbup
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Post by: Mondo Hazardo on November 05, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk227/HazardousOperations/scarface_01_zpsgdtyxvdg.jpg)
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Post by: Neo on November 05, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Cool Close Encounters of the Third Kind Japanese B2 (?) at eMovie:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032518 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032518)

What do y'all think?

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Post by: erik1925 on November 05, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: Neo on November 05, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Cool Close Encounters of the Third Kind Japanese B2 (?) at eMovie:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032518 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4032518)

What do y'all think?



Brandon.. cool looking poster, but after what Armin posted about the All English Pulp Fiction B2 sized poster with no eirin mark, (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9972.msg190473.html#msg190473 ), I wonder if this could also be something that was similarly produced or used for?

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Post by: Neo on November 05, 2015, 09:08:05 PM
Yeah, that's a good reference.  thumbup Several good points there from Armin.  thumbup
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Post by: erik1925 on November 05, 2015, 09:11:16 PM
And the lack of an eirin mark seems to be a big clue, too.  ;)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 06, 2015, 08:40:31 AM
So is the paper and size according to the description.  EMP does call it a "theatrical release" would this be accurate then?
Regardless I was a player on that one for a good while there until it passed the $275 mark
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Post by: Gingerman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 05, 2015, 09:02:27 PM
Brandon.. cool looking poster, but after what Armin posted about the All English Pulp Fiction B2 sized poster with no eirin mark, (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9972.msg190473.html#msg190473 ), I wonder if this could also be something that was similarly produced or used for?



Wouldn't this information also bring question to the Star Wars B2's emp has been selling as rerelease http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1755462.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1755462.html)............. I am no expert on Japanese paper, but I do not see an eirin mark.
Wouldn't this suggest they could be handouts to theater goers as Armin previously discussed?
Whatever the case may be, somebody has a stack of VG/F copies....
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 07, 2015, 04:30:16 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on November 04, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
SPECTACULAR LOBBIES AT EMOVIEPOSTER!!!!!!!!

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/lc_revolt_of_the_zombies_tc_TB01499_C_zpszzmnz7dz.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034195 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034195)


Well since a ROZ title card doesnt appear in Borst's Graven it looks like Jim G. might get the upper hand in adding this elusive piece to the next printed update of Children of the Night....Good Luck to the winner!!!
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Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2015, 12:00:04 PM
Jim G has the "horror eye." There is NO question about that.   notworthy.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2015, 01:30:12 PM
I don't believe either of the cited Japanese posters is a theatrical release
waiting for Sean to reply
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
Sean says:

commercial
sold at theaters
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 07, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
Sean says:

commercial
sold at theaters
So can we get away calling it "theatrical"
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 07, 2015, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 07, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
So can we get away calling it "theatrical"

does not seem to be correct to me....
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Post by: Neo on November 07, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
Welp, Tloce currently has some auctions.  A few of the most watched are for what appear to be minty inserts, such as Jaws, which has 12 watchers.  mesmrized  


http://www.ebay.com/sch/tloceposters/m.html?rmvSB=true&ul_noapp=true&item=371480434495&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336393595%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dposters-and-prints%25252Fmovie%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F371480434495%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D925943109684&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=insert&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p2046732.m1684 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/tloceposters/m.html?rmvSB=true&ul_noapp=true&item=371480434495&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336393595%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dposters-and-prints%25252Fmovie%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F371480434495%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D925943109684&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=insert&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p2046732.m1684)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
Quote from: Neo on November 07, 2015, 11:38:46 PM
Welp, Tloce is now doing auctions, a few of which are what appear to be minty inserts.  The one for Jaws has 12 watchers.  mesmrized  
http://www.ebay.com/sch/tloceposters/m.html?rmvSB=true&ul_noapp=true&item=371480434495&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336393595%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dposters-and-prints%25252Fmovie%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F371480434495%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D925943109684&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=insert&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p2046732.m1684 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/tloceposters/m.html?rmvSB=true&ul_noapp=true&item=371480434495&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336393595%2526toolid%253D10013%2526customId%253Dposters-and-prints%25252Fmovie%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F371480434495%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D925943109684&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=insert&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p2046732.m1684)

AS well as these 10,900 additional movie poster auction/BIN listings... I see the photo quality, lighting and brown, shag carpet are about the same, too..LOL  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Posters-/18828/m.html?item=371480436081&hash=item567df59d71%3Ag%3Au78AAOxy2d9SXZHI&_ssn=tloceposters


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Post by: Gingerman on November 08, 2015, 02:26:40 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 07, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
AS well as these 10,900 additional movie poster auction/BIN listings... I see the photo quality, lighting and brown, shag carpet are about the same, too..LOL  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Posters-/18828/m.html?item=371480436081&hash=item567df59d71%3Ag%3Au78AAOxy2d9SXZHI&_ssn=tloceposters




lol.....photo quality... Those are actually high quality photos.....The
posters are just that shitty........
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Post by: 50s on November 08, 2015, 02:30:14 AM
Welp

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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2015, 02:00:35 PM
Interesting to read that this LC has been linen backed. (Currently at $365.00)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4034188

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151101/550/lc_mummys_curse_tc_linen_TB01392_C.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 09, 2015, 12:18:59 PM
Be still my heart!     faint2.gif  bed1

Swedish poster (25 x 47 inches)

Currently bid is $11,000.00

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/king-kong-rko-1933-swedish-oversized-poster-25-x-47-/a/7113-86265.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F3%2F1%2F1%2F13311232%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: wonka on November 09, 2015, 06:16:08 PM
Can't even handle how cool that Kong 3sh is.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 13, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you too >:D here is a small tribute to  the HA PR marketing team. Below is a superb description of a very desirable LC. Of course being meself a "smart cookie" - yes a very hard earned title- I know too well that the rarest of them all and probably the best ever LC for this film  is indeed the TC. I wont insult your intelligence posting a pic of the TC. But let's just say that it is quintessentially Hollywood. That said, HA really knows how to sell...enjoy it!



The Public Enemy (Warner Brothers, 1931).Lobby Card (11" X 14").

For collectors aiming to add a signature piece to their movie poster collection, this lobby card from The Public Enemy is a monumental opportunity James Cagney was a bit player until he was cast as the lead in this crime drama. It was his snappy patter and wisecracking grin that earned him the title shot at Hollywood history. The film exploited the lives of gangsters like Al Capone who rose to power in the early 1930s and shocked the public into an awareness of the organized crime that ran bootleg alcohol during Prohibition. This is one of the most important films made during pre-Code Hollywood and features Jean Harlow, Ed Woods and Joan Blondell. This is one of only two lobby cards from the entire set with Cagney and Harlow pictured together. And it features sensational border artwork of a seething Cagney.More elusive than the Loch Ness Monster, this card won't appear again at auction anytime soon, so bid away! There is a tiny chip in the bottom border, faint spotting in the top border, and light stains and wrinkling in the right border. Fine/Very Fine.



(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-15_zpsk8nd5ovb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2015, 03:48:22 PM
An actual animation cell from Fantasia, framed and dedicated/inscribed to a Michael Clegg by Walt Disney himself. Measures 14x15 inches.  bed1

Opening bid: $6000.00  Est. $8-12K

http://hollywoodposterauction.com/session_lots/12523/show/FANTASIA_ORIGINAL_FRAMED_ANIMATION_CEL_SIGNED_BY_WALT_DISNEY

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/822%20Fantasia%20Cel_zpsuvzauwwr.jpg)




And Mike (Undead).. this one's for you! I think you should snag this for the new Mrs Mike. ;D 

The TC for Flying Down to Rio 

http://hollywoodposterauction.com/session_lots/12269/show/FLYING_DOWN_TO_RIO_TITLE_CARD

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/hpa-picts/20/large/491%20Flying%20Down%20To%20Rio-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on November 13, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Love the Fantasia cell!  bed1
Who wouldn't want to own this?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2015, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: Gingerman on November 13, 2015, 07:00:14 PM
Love the Fantasia cell!  bed1
Who wouldn't want to own this?

I would take it in a heartbeat, too, Chris.

 bed1 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 18, 2015, 09:39:05 PM
can someone explain this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Best-Hell-Drivers-Hand-signed-8x10-original-autograph-mint-COA-/291606013135?hash=item43e512a4cf:g:4RkAAOSwT5tWN6PU

I am stumped.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 18, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 18, 2015, 09:39:05 PM
can someone explain this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Best-Hell-Drivers-Hand-signed-8x10-original-autograph-mint-COA-/291606013135?hash=item43e512a4cf:g:4RkAAOSwT5tWN6PU

I am stumped.

Seller has 2,173 autographed items on the bay?
99.8% positive feedback.
Do you think his price is too high?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 18, 2015, 09:49:54 PM
I don't know who James best is, at least in regards to HD.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 20, 2015, 03:53:04 AM
These HA early bidders are really quite trigger happy. Last I checked  a poster was "x" and now is "y" ...  tripling the price ...

Hah!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on November 20, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 20, 2015, 03:53:04 AM
These HA early bidders are really quite trigger happy. Last I checked  a poster was "x" and now is "y" ...  tripling the price ...

Hah!

It's almost like folks are just eager to run the prices up......
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 20, 2015, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: Gingerman on November 20, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
It's almost like folks are just eager to run the prices up......

True...so true...

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 20, 2015, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Gingerman on November 20, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
It's almost like folks are just eager to run the prices up......

Chris, i think it is like others have said on APF, too. Some just want to be able to say that they bid on something-- period.

And with no intention or hop or ever really owning it. More so the rare or big ticket items, that they know will "spike" on the actual auction day.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 20, 2015, 01:53:04 PM
I Love this 3sh... talk about emotion and power, all in the same scene!!   bed1

Son Of Kong (1933)

Currently at $11,352.00 (inc the BP)

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/son-of-kong-rko-1933-three-sheet-41-x-80-style-b/a/7113-86267.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F3%2F0%2F1%2F13301969%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 20, 2015, 02:00:39 PM
Mama mia!!  bed1

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/mildred-pierce-warner-brothers-1945-first-post-war-release-italian-2-foglio-395-x-55-/a/7113-86197.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

More Martinati beauty for Mildred Pierce. (Currently $2151.00 with the added BP)

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F5%2F13295398%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 23, 2015, 03:36:39 PM
Long before Sly, there was Roddy McDowall, in Rocky (1948)  thumbsup.gif

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151117/550/in_rocky_SG00171_C.jpg)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4053035
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on November 24, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
In recognition of Russia about to unleash WW3 on the world, this is a cool auction upcoming of Soviet movie posters

http://www.shapiroauctions.com/upcomingauctions.html?auction_type=2129%2C
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 24, 2015, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 24, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
In recognition of Russia about to unleash WW3 on the world, this is a cool auction upcoming of Soviet movie posters

http://www.shapiroauctions.com/upcomingauctions.html?auction_type=2129%2C


So true. It feels like we are going backwards.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Starling on November 24, 2015, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 20, 2015, 02:00:39 PM
Mama mia!!  bed1

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/mildred-pierce-warner-brothers-1945-first-post-war-release-italian-2-foglio-395-x-55-/a/7113-86197.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

More Martinati beauty for Mildred Pierce. (Currently $2151.00 with the added BP)

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F9%2F5%2F13295398%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)




Crazy how you could have had this poster for 1900 including BP at the end of the last auction (no one bid on it and it was a buy it now) and it was relisted and it went for over 5k.  Every auction attracts different bidders, I suppose.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 25, 2015, 06:09:59 AM
Uhm. Do you like it Brian? It is one poster which doesn't do it for me at all. I do like the overall composition but she doesn't look right to me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 25, 2015, 06:11:14 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on November 25, 2015, 06:09:59 AM
Uhm. Do you like it Brian? It is one poster which doesn't do it for me at all. I do like the overall composition but she doesn't look right to me.

it's boring
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on November 27, 2015, 03:54:47 PM
Some cool 40x60s at eMovie in the current Thursday auction: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/1/14.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/1/14.html)

2001: A Space Odyssey: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4062869
 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4062869)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/40x60_2001_a_space_odyssey_zpsqeap1udv.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/40x60_2001_a_space_odyssey_zpsqeap1udv.jpg.html)


Per the description:
Note that the Cinerama posters from this movie are far more rare than those without Cinerama (which makes perfect sense, because it only played in a very limited number of theaters that had the Cinerama capability). We have only auctioned a small number of one-sheets with the Cinerama logo. This is the very first time we have auctioned a 40x60 from the Cinerama release, and it is likely so rare because it is not printed on the heavy paper stock that 40x60s of this period are normally printed on, but instead, it is printed on a paper exactly like that used for one-sheets at this time. It has a wonderful provenance! It comes to us directly from the man who was the theater manager of a theater that showed this movie in 1968, in Cinerama, and he has kept it ever since. He tells us that he remembers the poster being rushed to the theater at the last minute, which might explain why it was printed on the one-sheet paper, and would also likely explain why it is incredibly rare (probably a tiny number were made, just for those first run theaters)!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 27, 2015, 04:36:32 PM
Thanks Brandon! Great poster. The EMP description is always a pleasure to read. You can sense their enthusiasm!!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2015, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 18, 2015, 09:39:05 PM
can someone explain this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Best-Hell-Drivers-Hand-signed-8x10-original-autograph-mint-COA-/291606013135?hash=item43e512a4cf:g:4RkAAOSwT5tWN6PU

I am stumped.

ebay seller reply

I have no idea to tell you the truth. My uncle who died a few years back gave me his entire autograph collection and this is part of it --- he was an entertainment lawyer, one of the first, and had some great autographs --- some have stories to them but I never wrote anything down. this is one from him and I know it's authentic --- I certify them myself and have been doing so for 40 years but this one is signed by a james best and he doesn't even appear in the credits of the movie, so this one is a mystery.
John
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 27, 2015, 08:49:21 PM
He certifies the autograph himself... Go for it

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
but WHO the FREAK is JAMES BEST?

PS, how do you certify someone without knowing who it is?

come on sleuths, find me JAMES BEST in some connection to HD.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on November 27, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Per-Qualche-Dollaro-In-Piu-Manifesto-originale-Raro-/181944526472?hash=item2a5cbd2688:g:3wsAAOSwcdBWSmJE
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 27, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
Quote from: Ari on November 27, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
but WHO the FREAK is JAMES BEST?

PS, how do you certify someone without knowing who it is?

come on sleuths, find me JAMES BEST in some connection to HD.


(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/hell-drivers2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 27, 2015, 10:18:28 PM
AHA mystery solved, must rewatch it, guess I missed that scene. Thanks
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on November 28, 2015, 06:35:40 AM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on November 27, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Per-Qualche-Dollaro-In-Piu-Manifesto-originale-Raro-/181944526472?hash=item2a5cbd2688:g:3wsAAOSwcdBWSmJE

Raro....?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 29, 2015, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on November 27, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Per-Qualche-Dollaro-In-Piu-Manifesto-originale-Raro-/181944526472?hash=item2a5cbd2688:g:3wsAAOSwcdBWSmJE

Looks in pretty nice shape, too, Tang, considering these first releases dont come around all the time.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zpsulekognp.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on November 30, 2015, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 29, 2015, 01:18:46 PM
Looks in pretty nice shape, too, Tang, considering these first releases dont come around all the time.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_12_zpsulekognp.jpg)

I normally prefer not to discuss posters until after the auctions have closed... but in this case I think a word of warning is in order.  I have no proof, but but these auctions seem VERY SUSPECT.  Some flags:

1) The seller has unbelievably nice posters at absurdly low prices and very little feedback.  I asked and they said they would sell the blue-background For a Few Dollars more for 1500 euros.  The others are equally under-priced -- by at least 50% or more as compared with recent auction results.
2) The seller does not accept paypal.  Only international money order or bank transfer -- neither of which are covered by eBay's buyer protection policy.  3) If you look at "completed auctions" for this seller they are listing and then delisting the same posters over and over.  They rarely let anything go to completion.
4) The seller is using pictures I've seen before -- the ones laid out on the white tile.  I don't have any saved images to prove it, but they are suspect to me...
5) This seller had a rare "Rome" style silver Good, the Bad and the Ugly 2F listed several times (again, pulled before completion) -- the images are taken from Heritage's site. 
6) This seller also had a Thunderball "massage style" 4F listed several times and if you believe the results, it just sold for 1200 euros -- the images on this auction were also taken from Heritage's recent signature sale. 

Unless you are willing to pick up in person (which I'm sure this seller would find an excuse why you couldn't) I would avoid these auctions like the plague... tempting as they may be.

My $0.02 from experience dealing with a similar (the same?) Italian scammer a few years back.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 30, 2015, 09:54:32 AM
and now....

"This listing has been closed by the seller because there was an error."

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on November 30, 2015, 11:26:40 AM
James Best was Rosco p Coltran in the Dukes of Hazzard, but I can't recall him in Hell Drivers.

He did do stunt work in his early days, and was in Hooper with Burt reynolds...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
Quote from: Ari on November 30, 2015, 09:54:32 AM
and now....

"This listing has been closed by the seller because there was an error."



Yes.. i did see that too.

Suspicious for sure, Matt and Ari.  hmmm.gif

And as Artie Johnson used to say:

https://www.youtube.com/v/krD4hdGvGHM
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Post by: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 12:10:03 PM
I met James Best here at Cooters Place.  Good Food and James and Ben sang songs for everyone.

(http://www.cootersplace.com/wp-content/themes/cooters/images/headerbg.jpg)(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/dailyprogress.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/ef/fefdad42-36d8-5173-803b-a4ddc405bcfe/510c516205184.image.jpg)(http://www.cootersplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/11060012_555799851228266_1044129154652594958_n2.jpg)(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/forRUM%20pikts/Thread%20Derailed.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2015, 12:14:01 PM
As a side note, Jason.. and purely from its imagery and historical POV --  that is ONE incredible b/w image of that train that plowed thru the station wall, ending up with the engine nose down, on the sidewalk! WOW!!   :o

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 30, 2015, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 30, 2015, 12:14:01 PM
As a side note, Jason.. and purely from its imagery and historical POV --  that is ONE incredible b/w image of that train that plowed thru the station wall, ending up with the engine nose down, on the sidewalk! WOW!!   :o



Grand Central station circa 1920s
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 06:06:57 PM
Actually that was in Paris in 1895
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 06:06:57 PM
Actually that was in Paris in 1895

Amazing story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montparnasse_derailment
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 30, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 06:06:57 PM
Actually that was in Paris in 1895


Ha ha, yes, I just checked. Will Rich confirm his error?

 :P


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on November 30, 2015, 08:22:24 PM
What if I saved the image after reading Rich's error? would the results reflect it?
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Post by: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 30, 2015, 09:55:20 PM
hmmm.. what train?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 30, 2015, 09:55:20 PM
hmmm.. what train?

Ha! Ha! That was funny as shit.  happy1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 30, 2015, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Ha! Ha! That was funny as shit.  happy1

 sm1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on November 30, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Ha! Ha! That was funny as shit.  happy1

It was?

 stickpoke.gif
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 30, 2015, 11:44:12 PM
Perusing the EMP part 2 preview...

What are your thoughts on major auctions just before OR just after the holidays... buyers or sellers market? 
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Post by: 50s on December 01, 2015, 01:59:40 AM
^ not sure I have any thoughts on the above...

But I do on all of a kind auctions such as all animation or all large posters. Usually I set a fixed budget to spend in an auction which might mean getting one or two items, adding up to say one or two hundred dollars. If animation posters for example were spread over different auctions like every week I'd have more money to spend for more of them than sit through weeks of non interesting stuff. Sure I could set aside some money like an allowance every week but I'm not that disciplined as I spend what I get

Title: the 5 second rule has come into effect
Post by: Crazy Vick on December 01, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
I have no money to spend on posters right now, so expensive major auctions are counterintuitive in my case.  Obviously when they are timed just right you get folks on the holiday spending craaaaaaze.  And we all know what craze leads to… cra-zy!  So it must be a seller’s market.  On the other hand, maybe it’s just one big extended Black Friday, with so many businesses competing they all need a figurative “major auction” at this time of the year.  If that's the case, and if you're careful, maybe you actually come out on top and knock-out a deal of the year.

Fuck if I know.  I do know that when the bill comes in January, many will need to take a step back, backwards walk of shame type thing, or whatever, and cool those credit jets.  “January?!?  But this is the absolute worst possible time ever for a consignor to auction my items!  I hate my life!”  Or, maybe it isn’t, young grasshopper.  Maybe many of us have reasons to hold out for those loser January auctions, maybe some of us are more likely than others to wake up hungover as hell in 2016 realizing there have 4 godforsaken months of ass chapping snow storms and ice punches to the gonads to look forward to, and maybe (one of) the only things that will get us through the darkness are dead-of-winter poster auctions.  So we lie in wait, ready to pounce when others are still licking their wounds.   >:D

So take care of yourselves this holiday season APF!! please make sure to give generously to those less fortunate in the coming weeks, and, if you absolutely must spend on major auction posters, for gods sake, spend wisely!

"Baby It's Cold Outside"
I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry
My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Well Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some music on while I pour

The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no, sir - Mind if I move a little closer
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ahh, but it's cold outside

C'mon baby

I simply must go - Baby, it's cold outside
The answer is no - Ooh baby, it's cold outside
This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in
So nice and warm -- Look out the window at that storm
My sister will be suspicious - Man, your lips look so delicious
My brother will be there at the door - Waves upon a tropical shore
My maiden aunt's mind is vicious - Gosh your lips look delicious
Well maybe just a half a drink more - Never such a blizzard before

I've got to go home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your comb - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Your eyes are like starlight now
But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Making my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that old out
Ahh, but it's cold outside

Baby it's cold outside

Brr its cold...
It's cold out there
Cant you stay awhile longer baby
Well... I really shouldn't... alright

Make it worth your while baby
Ahh, do that again...
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Post by: erik1925 on December 01, 2015, 01:23:58 PM
Great analysis there, Sir Vick!

And love that song, too!! It's great, in so many ways.  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 01, 2015, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 30, 2015, 11:44:12 PM
Perusing the EMP part 2 preview...

What are your thoughts on major auctions just before OR just after the holidays... buyers or sellers market?  

It's funny you mention that, as I a few months ago, I figured maybe this time of year is good for selling.  That was a contributing factor for me deciding to sell/consign a bunch of stuff this holiday season.

The main factor to the question is, of course, whether there will be two or more folks participating in spirited bidding.  Or, depending on the venue, whether there will be one spirited bidder and a high secret reserve.

In any case, whether people are statically more likely to really "go for the win," during one time of year or another, would be mighty difficult to prove statistically, due to so many other factors.


Interesting reasoning there, CV, and the "ass chapping snow storms and ice punches to the gonads" are really brutal here in Florida.   8)
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Post by: jayn_j on December 01, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
Good perspective Crazy Vick. Always loved that song.  I also have a fondness for the version they did last year on SNL that showed a certain tenderness.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/baby-its-cold-outside/n44614
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Post by: Neo on December 01, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
In Part I of the December Major at eMovie, Females is Fickle (1940).

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/females%20is%20fickle_zpsb7zybjyw.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/females%20is%20fickle_zpsb7zybjyw.jpg.html)

http://www.youtube.com/v/RKqL8JmdZcE
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Post by: erik1925 on December 01, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
Thats a great Popeye poster.

And the early, Popeye B/W cartoons were the best, too.

Like many (Tom and Jerry, for example), they went downhill fast, animation-wise, and sometimes story-wise, too, as the decades went by.
Title: Re: the 5 second rule has come into effect
Post by: Mirosae on December 01, 2015, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on December 01, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
I have no money to spend on posters right now, so expensive major auctions are counterintuitive in my case.  Obviously when they are timed just right you get folks on the holiday spending craaaaaaze.  And we all know what craze leads to… cra-zy!  So it must be a seller’s market.  On the other hand, maybe it’s just one big extended Black Friday, with so many businesses competing they all need a figurative “major auction” at this time of the year.  If that's the case, and if you're careful, maybe you actually come out on top and knock-out a deal of the year.

Fuck if I know.  I do know that when the bill comes in January, many will need to take a step back, backwards walk of shame type thing, or whatever, and cool those credit jets.  “January?!?  But this is the absolute worst possible time ever for a consignor to auction my items!  I hate my life!”  Or, maybe it isn’t, young grasshopper.  Maybe many of us have reasons to hold out for those loser January auctions, maybe some of us are more likely than others to wake up hungover as hell in 2016 realizing there have 4 godforsaken months of ass chapping snow storms and ice punches to the gonads to look forward to, and maybe (one of) the only things that will get us through the darkness are dead-of-winter poster auctions.  So we lie in wait, ready to pounce when others are still licking their wounds.   >:D

So take care of yourselves this holiday season APF!! please make sure to give generously to those less fortunate in the coming weeks, and, if you absolutely must spend on major auction posters, for gods sake, spend wisely!

"Baby It's Cold Outside"
I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry
My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Well Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some music on while I pour

The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no, sir - Mind if I move a little closer
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ahh, but it's cold outside

C'mon baby

I simply must go - Baby, it's cold outside
The answer is no - Ooh baby, it's cold outside
This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in
So nice and warm -- Look out the window at that storm
My sister will be suspicious - Man, your lips look so delicious
My brother will be there at the door - Waves upon a tropical shore
My maiden aunt's mind is vicious - Gosh your lips look delicious
Well maybe just a half a drink more - Never such a blizzard before

I've got to go home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your comb - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Your eyes are like starlight now
But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Making my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that old out
Ahh, but it's cold outside

Baby it's cold outside

Brr its cold...
It's cold out there
Cant you stay awhile longer baby
Well... I really shouldn't... alright

Make it worth your while baby
Ahh, do that again...

You are such a joy to read Vick. And you are so right too!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on December 01, 2015, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 01, 2015, 02:32:41 PM
It's funny you mention that, as I a few months ago, I figured maybe this time of year is good for selling.  That was a contributing factor for me deciding to sell/consign a bunch of stuff this holiday season.

The main factor to the question is, of course, whether there will be two or more folks participating in spirited bidding.  Or, depending on the venue, whether there will be one spirited bidder and a high secret reserve.

In any case, whether people are statically more likely to really "go for the win," during one time of year or another, would be mighty difficult to prove statistically, due to so many other factors.


Interesting reasoning there, CV, and the "ass chapping snow storms and ice punches to the gonads" are really brutal here in Florida.   8)


Good points Brandon. I think you might be right, most people tend to spend a lot this time of the year. Looking at my shopping habits I tend to be quite tight though I see HA buyers are just the opposite!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 01, 2015, 07:09:30 PM
Is this an actual, Japanese B2, being all in English? And like the others discussed a month or so ago, it also has no eirin mark, either.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4062566

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151124/550/japanese_b2_star_wars_R82_english_style_ES00765_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 01, 2015, 08:19:38 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 01, 2015, 07:09:30 PM

Is this an actual, Japanese B2, being all in English? And like the others discussed a month or so ago, it also has no eirin mark, either.


I wonder if anyone contacted them about all the info. from Armin.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on December 02, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on December 01, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
Good perspective Crazy Vick. Always loved that song.  I also have a fondness for the version they did last year on SNL that showed a certain tenderness.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/baby-its-cold-outside/n44614
this video not available in my location!  devil 2

its a coincidence that The Bruce is reported to be around again (I hope so!) I posted the lyrics to "Baby It's Cold Outside" to represent my logging on to EMP and then trying to leave before getting into some serious poster trouble.  The "guy" would be The Bruce (or Phil he's more my type) trying to convince me to stick around  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on December 02, 2015, 01:11:57 AM
Jeff This thread page 285......I mentioned this also! Rich said, Sean said no they are commercial sold at theaters.  ;D

I think it is identical to the others lacking the mark!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 02, 2015, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Gingerman on December 02, 2015, 01:11:57 AM
Jeff This thread page 285......I mentioned this also! Rich said, Sean said no they are commercial sold at theaters.  ;D

I think it is identical to the others lacking the mark!

yes I was about to post this
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Post by: Mirosae on December 03, 2015, 05:47:47 PM

ahhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhh...i see little point in hiding my excitement.....ohhhhhhhh
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tumblr_inline_n4vbbs0Rcq1sboo6w_zpsmhbvhlgd.gif)
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Post by: 50s on December 03, 2015, 06:24:47 PM
^ Is Ryan Gosling getting divorced?


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Post by: Mirosae on December 03, 2015, 06:28:27 PM
Hehe... :P dammit... You can read my mind
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on December 03, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on December 03, 2015, 06:28:27 PM
Hehe... :P dammit... You can read my mind

Did you see your Quiet Man?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2015, 01:42:49 PM
This is a killer looking HS, currently at $525.00  bed1

Great action conveyed in the scene, that's for sure.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4064586

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151129/550/half_sainted_devil_BM04881_C.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2015, 02:08:35 PM
MAMA MIA!  Beautiful!! faint2.gif bed1

Cleopatra (1934) US OS.

Already at $13K

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4069201


(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151201/550/cleopatra_styleA_linen_BM05113_T.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on December 05, 2015, 02:14:21 AM
If one of you cries because I outed this auction I will quit collecting.

ARI this is for you!!!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vegetarian-Zombies-Veggies-Running-Scared-Spoof-Funny-Humor-Poster-11-5x16-5-/141832940908?hash=item2105e6ed6c:g:FswAAOSwcBhWWfJc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vegetarian-Zombies-Veggies-Running-Scared-Spoof-Funny-Humor-Poster-11-5x16-5-/141832940908?hash=item2105e6ed6c:g:FswAAOSwcBhWWfJc)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on December 05, 2015, 02:38:33 AM
arrrggghhhh haha "thanks"
 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on December 05, 2015, 02:53:02 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 05, 2015, 02:38:33 AM
arrrggghhhh haha "thanks"
 ;D

I can paint a version of this for you, that way you can have some "fine art" for your new house up in the hills!
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Post by: ddilts399 on December 05, 2015, 09:10:45 AM
 gun1 Ne436820  gun2

let me put another in front of the squad

 gun1 adoss3  gun2

WTF is going on with the auction #3, Christmas bonus checks come in or dealers running stuff up. Going to be some crazy prices come out of this one I believe!
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Post by: Mirosae on December 05, 2015, 09:46:08 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on December 05, 2015, 09:10:45 AM
gun1 Ne436820  gun2

let me put another in front of the squad

 gun1 adoss3  gun2

WTF is going on with the auction #3, Christmas bonus checks come in or dealers running stuff up. Going to be some crazy prices come out of this one I believe!

Agree. These are really going for it. I could give you another name. I have in mind another trigger happy (an early bidder). Not that it bothers me.  :P.  Question. Are these two related? They have such an appetite...Ta560796    and my beloved Ma50069 who i see getting that incredible LC.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 05, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
Ya i see adoss3 ran up the price of a lenticular too! Doh!
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Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2015, 12:07:21 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 05, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
Ya i see adoss3 ran up the price of a lenticular too! Doh!

adoss3 is crossing all boundaries, it seems like, Jason. And with coins in his pocket.  :-\
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on December 05, 2015, 06:37:21 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on December 05, 2015, 09:10:45 AM
gun1 Ne436820  gun2


Are we both keeping an eye on the same poster (and bidder)? :P
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on December 06, 2015, 01:32:54 PM
 Again, I normally don't like to out auctions… But someone is going to get hosed on these 80s release bonds! I contacted the seller and sent him a link to an authentication page. Hopefully he follows through and relists them properly.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/darausa/m.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 06, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
And he's got a number of bids already on a few at the bottom of his list. Ugh.

Now to see if he takes takes your words (and link) to heart, Matt.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 06, 2015, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 06, 2015, 01:32:54 PM
Again, I normally don't like to out auctions… But someone is going to get hosed on these 80s release bonds! I contacted the seller and sent him a link to an authentication page. Hopefully he follows through and relists them properly.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/darausa/m.html

The seller responded and said they were listed on behalf of someone else and they would pass my info along. Not sure that means they'll do anything about it though!

Might be worthwhile for others to contact the seller as well...
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Post by: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
 thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Neo on December 06, 2015, 04:01:30 PM
Some classic cartoon posters at the eMovie today.  After seeing these, I want to watch the shows.  They don't make them like they used to.
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Post by: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 06, 2015, 04:01:30 PM
Some classic cartoon posters at the eMovie today.  After seeing these, I want to watch the shows.  They don't make them like they used to.

Yes. Agree. I too have seen there some silent films by T.B that I would love to watch.

Good luck to those bidding today
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Post by: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
Blimey...Ma and Ta both in a different bidding war are having a heck of a fight... devil 2
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on December 06, 2015, 05:27:56 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 06, 2015, 02:50:26 PM
The seller responded and said they were listed on behalf of someone else and they would pass my info along. Not sure that means they'll do anything about it though!

Might be worthwhile for others to contact the seller as well...

I went for a look, but he seems not to have anything up for auction at present...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 06, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Yes. Agree. I too have seen there some silent films by T.B that I would love to watch.

Good luck to those bidding today

You mean W.B., as in Warner Brothers?
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Post by: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 06:04:39 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 06, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
You mean W.B., as in Warner Brothers?

Theda Bara!  :P :D  "Someone" is getting a really "gothic looking" HS.
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Post by: Neo on December 06, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 06:04:39 PM
Theda Bara!  :P :D  "Someone" is getting a really "gothic looking" HS.

Oh, OK.  Both of the half sheets featuring her are nice.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4064595 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4064595)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4064585 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4064585)
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Post by: Mirosae on December 06, 2015, 06:38:41 PM
Thank you Brandon. I find these posters very ghostly looking. I just wish I could watch the films...
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Post by: Starling on December 08, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Is anyone else shocked about how well Miss Cleo (Cleopatra OS) is doing at Emovie?  Yes, it is a wonderful image, but whoa........   :o :o :o

Wonder if it will beat Frankie??

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2015, 03:50:06 PM
She's a very rare bird.. beautiful and colorful, to boot.  notworthy.gif

She could go neck in neck with Frankie.. but he had the bolts, don't forget.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 08, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: Starling on December 08, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Is anyone else shocked about how well Miss Cleo (Cleopatra OS) is doing at Emovie?  Yes, it is a wonderful image, but whoa........   :o :o :o

Wonder if it will beat Frankie??



Tough call, any historical sales for comparison? Considering condition, age, subject, star, etc. I think it is actually a decent buy at the current price and will likely close higher $22.5k.
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Post by: Starling on December 08, 2015, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 08, 2015, 04:43:59 PM
Tough call, any historical sales for comparison? Considering condition, age, subject, star, etc. I think it is actually a decent buy at the current price and will likely close higher.

One just sold on the Bay a few weeks ago, unbacked and beautiful.....for 16.7 k!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
Was in beautiful condition, too. That would be the one to snag! Being unbacked and all.

I wonder if that seller fell thru the floor when he/she saw the final number.

And they also sold a Style B OS from Cleo, too.

Talk about a nice, little estate find. Wow!  faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2015, 09:37:41 PM
Cleo stuck at its earlier number and Frankie held up.
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 09, 2015, 04:35:09 PM
I'm fairly certain I was the underbidder on this exact poster a few months ago at a small auction.  IIRC it went for $2-300.  Whoops!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4071742

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151203/550/enforcer_closeup_style_teaser_BM04663_C.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on December 09, 2015, 05:44:57 PM
Its certainly a cool different teaser style.

With a Nice price there, too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on December 09, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4076116

I was in touch with emp yesterday to correct the year in their blurb from '71 to '73.  But in doing so, I was hitherto not aware of the two different styles to this LALD 1 sheet.  No Transamerica on the bottom right.

What is the take on these here boards?  Is there a story?  Is it part of the '84 festival etc.?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: hepcatpunk on December 09, 2015, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 05, 2015, 12:07:21 PM
adoss3 is crossing all boundaries, it seems like, Jason. And with coins in his pocket.  :-\

I was trying not to watch any of the SW auctions until Sunday, but I couldn't resist.  I don't like you adoss3, not one bit, not one iota, nada. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on December 09, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 06, 2015, 02:50:26 PM
The seller responded and said they were listed on behalf of someone else and they would pass my info along. Not sure that means they'll do anything about it though!

Might be worthwhile for others to contact the seller as well...


The seller never revised the listings!  I really wish there was a way to still contact individual members...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/darausa/m.html?LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1
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Post by: Ari on December 09, 2015, 09:52:28 PM
some posters are just oddly common.

ok, this poster, I like it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hate-for-Hate-Original-Daybill-Movie-Poster-/262178925849?hash=item3d0b14ed19:g:3GgAAOSw42JWDLZU

I reckon Ive had over 50 of these daybills in the last 15 years. Always UNUSED.

I had a handful of the AU 1 Sheets which were really great looking.

but the daybills, seems they just never used them, never seen a USED one for sale.  Perhaps no cinema wanted to book it?

there are other titles of course. But saw this today and, well you know.

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Post by: Mirosae on December 10, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 09, 2015, 04:35:09 PM
I'm fairly certain I was the underbidder on this exact poster a few months ago at a small auction.  IIRC it went for $2-300.  Whoops!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4071742

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151203/550/enforcer_closeup_style_teaser_BM04663_C.jpg)


 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on December 10, 2015, 08:45:12 AM
Enforcer, I thought, never seen that before I'll go 500, such a plain poster, looks like a large publicity still,  that will surely get it  laugh1, close!

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on December 10, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on December 10, 2015, 08:45:12 AM
Enforcer, I thought, never seen that before I'll go 500, such a plain poster, looks like a large publicity still,  that will surely get it  laugh1, close!



Yes. The price tag is a bit...uhm. but then again...there are plenty of Clint Eastwood fans out there!!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 10, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 05, 2015, 12:07:21 PM
adoss3 is crossing all boundaries, it seems like, Jason. And with coins in his pocket.  :-\

Not when he or she is bidding on your consignments. 

With the other comments about adoss3, also, I'm tempted to post the "leave Britney Spears alone video"... but I'll just say "LEAVE ADOSS3 ALONE!"  8)

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The above compilation is courtesy of Rich, from here: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2161.msg155284.html#msg155284 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2161.msg155284.html#msg155284)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 10, 2015, 12:27:14 PM
This English one sheet for Mad Max is the best for the film, IMO, and currently at darn low bids.  The only other one that eMovie has sold within the last several years went for over $1k.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=4071430
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on December 10, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
Love ^ posts Brandon!!!! Yessir!! :P ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 10, 2015, 12:38:50 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on December 10, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
Love ^ posts Brandon!!!! Yessir!! :P ;D

 cheers
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on December 10, 2015, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 10, 2015, 12:27:14 PM
This English one sheet for Mad Max is the best for the film, IMO, and currently at darn low bids.  The only other one that eMovie has sold within the last several years went for over $1k.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=4071430

I love the english 1sh (as evidenced by what I was willing to pay for a top quality copy), but I still think the intl 1sh is the one to have, or the Ausie orange one if you are a COO freak:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nbElD4x5WoQ/TqcRQJI-WtI/AAAAAAAAHRw/WZxmRvZr_d0/s800-Ic42/Mad%252520Max%252520Intl%2525201sh.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 10, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 10, 2015, 07:56:43 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on December 10, 2015, 06:48:08 PM
I love the english 1sh (as evidenced by what I was willing to pay for a top quality copy), but I still think the intl 1sh is the one to have, or the Ausie orange one if you are a COO freak:


Those are cool.  

The English version just has a really bold, classic vibe, IMO.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on December 10, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 09, 2015, 04:35:09 PM
I'm fairly certain I was the underbidder on this exact poster a few months ago at a small auction.  IIRC it went for $2-300.  Whoops!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4071742

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA151203/550/enforcer_closeup_style_teaser_BM04663_C.jpg)

Don't really know what to say here... I guess I'll bid higher next time!?!?   :o :o :o :o
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Post by: hepcatpunk on December 10, 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on December 10, 2015, 08:45:13 PM
Don't really know what to say here... I guess I'll bid higher next time!?!?   :o :o :o :o

Speechless. 
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Post by: Charlie on December 10, 2015, 10:31:55 PM
Quote from: kovacs01 on December 10, 2015, 06:48:08 PM
I love the english 1sh (as evidenced by what I was willing to pay for a top quality copy)...

I keep my English OS hanging at all times...  Right as you turn to come down the stairs Rockstansky is shooting you in the face!
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Post by: jedgerley on December 11, 2015, 02:16:42 AM
Heres a possible Star Wars concept poster Chris (Sir Gingerman) pointed out to me.

At the time of this posting its at $40,100 with 3 days 22 hrs remaining

Anyone have a Lambo to trade? Lol

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181955102459
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on December 11, 2015, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 11, 2015, 02:16:42 AM
Heres a possible Star Wars concept poster Chris (Sir Gingerman) pointed out to me.

At the time of this posting its at $40,100 with 3 days 22 hrs remaining

Anyone have a Lambo to trade? Lol

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/181955102459

WTF?
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Post by: 50s on December 11, 2015, 07:44:37 AM
Are the white squares covering naughty bits?

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Post by: originalcinemaposters on December 11, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: Ari on December 11, 2015, 07:32:33 AM
WTF?
i would say the bidding activity looks a bit fishy, twoof the guys bidding normally bid on car parts and one has not bid on anything for ages despite the high feedback
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Post by: Ari on December 11, 2015, 10:20:58 AM
I know VERY LITTLE about SW posters, but,
if i was going to pay this sort of $ for a previously unknown poster I would want to have one heckova provenance.

I mean in reality, couldn't I design a poster and come up with a good story?

but again, I don't know about SW.
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Post by: mwright on December 11, 2015, 12:18:21 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 10, 2015, 12:27:14 PM
This English one sheet for Mad Max is the best for the film, IMO, and currently at darn low bids.  The only other one that eMovie has sold within the last several years went for over $1k.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=4071430

Actually I kind of like this one, it's pretty rare.

MAD MAX Thai Movie Poster
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/motdue/DSC_0052_zpspqp0llww.jpg?t=1449767831)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 11, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: mwright on December 11, 2015, 12:18:21 PM

Actually I kind of like this one, it's pretty rare.


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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 11, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
Quote from: Ari on December 11, 2015, 10:20:58 AM
I know VERY LITTLE about SW posters, but,
if i was going to pay this sort of $ for a previously unknown poster I would want to have one heckova provenance.

I mean in reality, couldn't I design a poster and come up with a good story?

but again, I don't know about SW.

Hmm that reminds me i have something along these lines to share tonight on APF.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 12, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
Based on current numbers tomorrow is going to be a very painful day for my bank account. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BIDDING... PLEASE!!!  ;D
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Post by: hepcatpunk on December 12, 2015, 11:24:52 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 12, 2015, 09:43:53 PM
Based on current numbers tomorrow is going to be a very painful day for my bank account. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP BIDDING... PLEASE!!!  ;D

Yeah, not the best time to be hunting for bargains as a SW fan.  Sellers should do well as hype is high.
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Gingerman on December 13, 2015, 01:04:28 AM
Up to $74800 high bidder has 0 feedback.....something is fishy about this one, and the bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on December 13, 2015, 01:34:56 AM
Quote from: Gingerman on December 13, 2015, 01:04:28 AM
Up to $74800 high bidder has 0 feedback.....something is fishy about this one, and the bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8)

"Something fishy"?!?  Let us count the ways.

First, 14x11 is a lobby card size.  It would not be artwork for any poster as the original artwork is usually at least 27x41, and usually larger.  Second, this is a print, not original artwork.  Makes no sense wrt the story.  Third, I can't imagine anyone copying the poor quality scan, so the paranoia is unwarranted.  Fourth, I guess one of the coverups is the signature.  Is the other supposed to be the credits?  Too small for studio release.  Finally, that story doesn't even come close to being credible.

My guess is that this was a small distribution commercial print, or something out of a magazine.  The bidding is fairly apparent as shill bidding as well.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 13, 2015, 09:51:56 AM
Quote from: Gingerman on December 13, 2015, 01:04:28 AM
Up to $74800 high bidder has 0 feedback.....something is fishy about this one, and the bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8)

Hmm the earlier bidders had a normal range. It is possible that someone with the money to buy that had to sign up to ebay just to bid....I would hope this is the case. But who knows.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 13, 2015, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on December 13, 2015, 01:34:56 AM
"Something fishy"?!?  Let us count the ways.

First, 14x11 is a lobby card size.  It would not be artwork for any poster as the original artwork is usually at least 27x41, and usually larger.  Second, this is a print, not original artwork.  Makes no sense wrt the story.  Third, I can't imagine anyone copying the poor quality scan, so the paranoia is unwarranted.  Fourth, I guess one of the coverups is the signature.  Is the other supposed to be the credits?  Too small for studio release.  Finally, that story doesn't even come close to being credible.

My guess is that this was a small distribution commercial print, or something out of a magazine.  The bidding is fairly apparent as shill bidding as well.

The sig isnt covered. And they also show a close up. Its all weird to me though. The zero feedback person seems to have bid enough to reveal the max bid of the other bidder and was careful enough not to bid more than them.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on December 14, 2015, 11:07:45 PM
The commonality of the US poster makes folks shy away from the luster of the poster, but there is none better than the old stand by US one-sheet for Max.

(http://www.movieposters4u.com/images/m/madmax.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on December 14, 2015, 11:54:48 PM
Gotta agree, Dale.
The others are all very cool, but the American one sheet runs the table.
Simply iconic.

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 14, 2015, 11:56:14 PM
Quote from: Gingerman on December 13, 2015, 01:04:28 AM
Up to $74800 high bidder has 0 feedback.....something is fishy about this one, and the bidding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-ONE-OF-A-KIND-Revenge-of-Jedi-NEVER-released-Trade-Lamborghini-porsch-/181955102459?hash=item2a5d5e86fb:g:~UgAAOSwp5JWZjt8)

did not sell. obviously from the shill bids, I would think it can be deduced that the 'reserve' is $75k

as to what it is, it's possible it could be a paste-up done by the ad agency or in-house studio that was considering ad & poster designs. It would of course have to be examined if so, and the Collector's Bookstore had some of this stuff in a Star Wars lot that I did not win at that auction in 2008
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 14, 2015, 11:56:14 PM
did not sell. obviously from the shill bids, I would think it can be deduced that the 'reserve' is $75k

as to what it is, it's possible it could be a paste-up done by the ad agency or in-house studio that was considering ad & poster designs. It would of course have to be examined if so, and the Collector's Bookstore had some of this stuff in a Star Wars lot that I did not win at that auction in 2008

It's Back!!! Buy it now lowered to just $112,500

Star Wars Revenge of the Jedi Poster art thingy (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=181963210401&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 15, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
It's Back!!! Buy it now lowered to just $112,500

Star Wars Revenge of the Jedi Poster art thingy (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=181963210401&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

I bidded $95 to see if I could meet the reserve......  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 15, 2015, 09:11:44 PM
Damn Mike it didnt take long for you to outbid me!!!! LOL
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
I bidded $95 to see if I could meet the reserve......  ;)

ROFL

Ha, I am the high bidder at $98 let the bidding war begin!

Star Wars Revenge of the Jedi Poster art thingy (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=181963210401&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 09:14:02 PM
You bastard you outbid me! nono
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 15, 2015, 09:14:27 PM
Phawwww haw haw I already outbid tou before you posted above  thumbsup.gif
Its on now!!!! WAR
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 09:15:10 PM
Yeah, reload your page now. Hurumph
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
Doh  hitself outbid again.

Guess you want it more than me.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
50 cents too much for me.. I'm out!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 09:19:20 PM
I'm looking at the bid history and I've determined the only bidder who much be real is the original bidder with 1192 feedback.

the other 2 bidders must be shills driving up the price for the owner...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 15, 2015, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 15, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
Doh  hitself outbid again.

Guess you want it more than me.

:) well that was fun for two minutes lol
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on December 15, 2015, 11:35:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 09:19:20 PM
the other 2 bidders must be shills driving up the price for the owner...

Why I don't think that either Mr. Lenticular or myself would ever stoop so low as to put in schill bids for someone, right jedgerley!?!??! By the way, how much is he paying you? I don't want to come out on the short end.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jedgerley on December 15, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 15, 2015, 11:35:36 PM
Why I don't think that either Mr. Lenticular or myself would ever stoop so low as to put in schill bids for someone, right jedgerley!?!??! By the way, how much is he paying you? I don't want to come out on the short end.

You are getting screwed cuz I was promised 51% lol ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2015, 11:53:06 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 15, 2015, 11:35:36 PM
Why I don't think that either Mr. Lenticular or myself would ever stoop so low as to put in schill bids for someone, right jedgerley!?!??! By the way, how much is he paying you? I don't want to come out on the short end.

who said you're stooping?  ;D
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Post by: Mirosae on December 16, 2015, 03:59:07 AM
^ WOW... Can you report this to ebay?


I love this forum... :P :)
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Post by: jedgerley on December 16, 2015, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on December 16, 2015, 03:59:07 AM
^ WOW... Can you report this to ebay?


I love this forum... :P :)

I already reported Mike so Its all good now  :)
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Post by: Mirosae on December 16, 2015, 12:40:49 PM
^ Hehe ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2015, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 16, 2015, 11:23:33 AM
I already reported Mike so Its all good now  :)

and I reported Jason......
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2015, 04:57:54 PM
interesting lobby cards that show different sizes of poster art on the lobby cards as an additional element

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/musical/on-with-the-show-warner-brothers-1929-lobby-cards-3-11-x-14-musical-total-3-items-/a/161551-53314.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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Post by: Undead on December 16, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
And I'm reporting all of you!

On a lighter but still Revenge of the Jedi note, avoid this poster. The seller makes it sound like a no date one sheet revenge poster but when asked questions as to size, is it original, a print, backed, etc. he is silent. I know he is online as he has added to the description again to make it sound like it may be real and a full size one sheet. I think it looks like a print. Multiple requests for info, zero responses = a con in my book.

Revenge of the Jedi No Date Poster (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=141850053129&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 16, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 16, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
And I'm reporting all of you!

On a lighter but still Revenge of the Jedi note, avoid this poster. The seller makes it sound like a no date one sheet revenge poster but when asked questions as to size, is it original, a print, backed, etc. he is silent. I know he is online as he has added to the description again to make it sound like it may be real and a full size one sheet. I think it looks like a print. Multiple requests for info, zero responses = a con in my book.

Revenge of the Jedi No Date Poster (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=141850053129&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

grey border. fargin print. is that you shill bidding?  :P
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Post by: Undead on December 16, 2015, 08:04:46 PM
Nah, I was bidding against edge on the other one. No bids on this one.

Agree it is most likely a print but with the seller ignoring questions thought it would be best to put out there to be safe.
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Post by: jedgerley on December 16, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 16, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
And I'm reporting all of you!

On a lighter but still Revenge of the Jedi note, avoid this poster. The seller makes it sound like a no date one sheet revenge poster but when asked questions as to size, is it original, a print, backed, etc. he is silent. I know he is online as he has added to the description again to make it sound like it may be real and a full size one sheet. I think it looks like a print. Multiple requests for info, zero responses = a con in my book.

Revenge of the Jedi No Date Poster (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=141850053129&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

11x17 hmmm and it looks like its on foamcore board?
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Post by: brude on December 17, 2015, 02:04:40 AM
Looks like a homemade con-job to me.
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Post by: Undead on December 17, 2015, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on December 16, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
11x17 hmmm and it looks like its on foamcore board?

Looked at the up close images and noticed the toe in the lower area of the full shot. Using that for a rough scale it is indeed an 11x17. Edge you win the Cupie doll.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 20, 2016, 09:21:49 PM
This poster went unsold in the HA Nov 2013 Sig auction.. and now it has reappeared again, this time, going on the Swann Auction Galleries block, on Feb 11th.

It's the Palestinean poster for The Mummy (1932). Tho described as being from the original release, there was some discussion and seems to be some question about that one "minor" detail. Still a very cool looking poster.

It will be starting with a $6,000.00 opening bid, this time around. The estimated value is $8-12K

http://catalogue.swanngalleries.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2405+++++521+&refno=++713500&saletype=

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/713500_zpspqunc1py.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on January 21, 2016, 05:08:02 AM
http://catalogue.swanngalleries.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2201+++++158+&refno=++626288&saletype=

Grief, I see in times past they realised ~$8k for the above.  Cough and Choke. 

Normally around $1.5k.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2016, 12:21:20 AM
I did a double take when I saw the BIN for this Italian 2F for the 1960 film, Black Sunday.  I do like the imagery, but i did pause, here.

8000 euros (US $8,659.60), PLUS another 150 euros (US $162.37) shipping, via DHL Express!   Uhm...mama mia!!  faint2.gif

Maybe the fact that it is linen backed upped the price a bit.   ;)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARIO-BAVA-LA-MASCHERA-DEL-DEMONIO-MANIFESTO-ORIGINALE-1-EDIZIONE-1960-RARISSIMO/201273423084?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140620074313%26meid%3D26a1bc2250174686940eb2c565dce86e%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D181944527733

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BS_zpsrrxj32yh.jpg)
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Post by: guest4754 on January 24, 2016, 01:10:11 AM
Wow...though honestly if I had the disposable income I would spend it on that.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2016, 01:13:25 AM
I'd be happy with the Belgian version (same art design) and hope i got it for close to this last EMP price ($79.00):  :)

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1720692.html

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA121025/550/belgian_black_sunday_JC05684_L.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2016, 02:30:18 PM
With a starting bid of---

$18,995.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEZEBEL-VERY-RARE-ORIG-1938-US-ONE-SHEET-LINEN-BETTE-DAVIS-2ND-OSCAR-C10-COND-/252264018041?hash=item3abc1b7079:g:vjAAAOSw-zxWpBlQ

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/s-l400_zpsjhp7lu8q.jpg)

I  bed1 this poster image.
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Post by: Ari on February 03, 2016, 03:32:37 AM
I know its rare but seriously?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=4129336
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Post by: 50s on February 03, 2016, 03:54:16 AM
^ cool cars!

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Post by: Ari on February 03, 2016, 04:10:18 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 03, 2016, 03:54:16 AM
^ cool cars!



no such thing ;)
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Post by: jayn_j on February 03, 2016, 10:16:28 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 03, 2016, 03:54:16 AM
^ cool cars!
Quote from: Ari on February 03, 2016, 04:10:18 AM
no such thing ;)
Philistine!

Take it back, or suffer the wrath of all gearheads here :)
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Post by: monocle on February 04, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: Ari on February 03, 2016, 04:10:18 AM
no such thing ;)

Ah but you have my support Ari. Being tinged somewhat 'green', we got rid of our Mini back in the late 80s and from that moment on we managed without a car for over 20 years. My two chaps were therefore born into a car-free family and reached adulthood simply shuttling around on buses, trains and Shank's Pony. However when my wife was given a new job which involved lecturing at a university 70 miles away, we had no choice but to purchase a vehicle. It is however scrupulously clean and efficient and thankfully manages more than sixty five miles to the gallon...which is just as well given the price of fuel here in the UK!
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Post by: Starling on February 04, 2016, 01:31:49 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 24, 2016, 02:30:18 PM
With a starting bid of---

$18,995.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEZEBEL-VERY-RARE-ORIG-1938-US-ONE-SHEET-LINEN-BETTE-DAVIS-2ND-OSCAR-C10-COND-/252264018041?hash=item3abc1b7079:g:vjAAAOSw-zxWpBlQ

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/s-l400_zpsjhp7lu8q.jpg)

I  bed1 this poster image.








Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.  Ugh.  Sadness.
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Post by: Ari on February 05, 2016, 01:33:29 AM
Quote from: monocle on February 04, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
Ah but you have my support Ari. Being tinged somewhat 'green', we got rid of our Mini back in the late 80s and from that moment on we managed without a car for over 20 years. My two chaps were therefore born into a car-free family and reached adulthood simply shuttling around on buses, trains and Shank's Pony. However when my wife was given a new job which involved lecturing at a university 70 miles away, we had no choice but to purchase a vehicle. It is however scrupulously clean and efficient and thankfully manages more than sixty five miles to the gallon...which is just as well given the price of fuel here in the UK!

good for you.

I stopped driving about 15 years ago.
Only car I ever owned was a HILLMAN HUNTER, cost me $300 and I quite enjoyed it.
But I prefer walking or getting public transport.
People cant believe its possible.
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Post by: Mirosae on February 05, 2016, 04:12:31 AM
^ + 1 I am a huge  supporter of public transport . That said, I am taking my driving lessons this year. Hehe watch your space devil 2
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Post by: monocle on February 05, 2016, 05:14:46 AM
Actually, the only thing I drive now is 'my wife mad'...
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Post by: Mirosae on February 05, 2016, 11:33:04 AM
^ Hehe...
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Post by: ddilts399 on February 07, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
sticky #2
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Post by: eatbrie on February 10, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
I was just checking Bruce's auction of modern stuff tomorrow and I'm amazed how many items are in so-so condition (what I call unacceptable).  So many poor to fair, fair, fair to good, good to very good.  I mean, c'mon, these posters are less than 30 years old.  What do people do with their posters?  Play baseball?

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 11, 2016, 12:00:50 AM
yeah I don't believe in selling low grade modern posters. Doesn't seem a useful method

has to be pretty rare or important for me to bother when they're downgraded posters
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2016, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 10, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
I was just checking Bruce's auction of modern stuff tomorrow and I'm amazed how many items are in so-so condition (what I call unacceptable).  So many poor to fair, fair, fair to good, good to very good.  I mean, c'mon, these posters are less than 30 years old.  What do people do with their posters?  Play baseball?

T

That's why they have been sent off to the auction block.

One can use a rolled poster only so many times as a bat before the poster strikes out.
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Post by: jayn_j on February 11, 2016, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 10, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
I was just checking Bruce's auction of modern stuff tomorrow and I'm amazed how many items are in so-so condition (what I call unacceptable).  So many poor to fair, fair, fair to good, good to very good.  I mean, c'mon, these posters are less than 30 years old.  What do people do with their posters?  Play baseball?

T

Uh, display them in theaters?  Yeah, I know, that's blasphemy.  And we all know that minimum wage employees only treat the posters with the utter respect they deserve when taking them down.

But what the heck.  It must be true because you all jumped down my throat when I suggested that studios overprinted modern posters directly into the secondary market.  Therefore, I guess most theater employees do treat their used posters with great respect, and these must just be from a few bad apples.
 eyeroll
[/sarcasm]
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Post by: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
Except for a handful of posters, the rest of of them can be found in absolute mint condition somewhere else.  I have a hard time understanding why Bruce, who is one of the top sellers out there, lowers himself to selling sub par posters. 

And then I see a Spectre poster that can be found for $20 in mint condition sell for $105 in good to very good condition.  What do I know.  I guess someone is having the last laugh.

T
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Post by: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
I have a hard time understanding why Bruce, who is one of the top sellers out there, lowers himself to selling sub par posters. 
T

Many, many people have spent years trying to understand what I do and why. Is there a method to my madness? Maybe not!
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Post by: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 08:35:41 PM
Bruce, with all due respect, didn't you once say that you were losing money on every poster that sells for less than $20?  How many lesser posters will sell for less than $20 tonight?

T
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Post by: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 08:35:41 PM
Bruce, with all due respect, didn't you once say that you were losing money on every poster that sells for less than $20?  How many lesser posters will sell for less than $20 tonight?

T

I improved my system and I now lose money only on ones that sell below $7. But there are a lot of those. I keep trying to move those posters into bulk lots, but it is a slow process.

Someday I might add $14 minimum buyers premiums, and then I will make money on every poster.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 11, 2016, 09:00:15 PM
my lobby cards come with a $20 Buyers Premium, but who do you think is getting that?

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/apf/rose_stripper2.jpg)

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Post by: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 08:56:08 PM
I improved my system and I now lose money only on ones that sell below $7. But there are a lot of those. I keep trying to move those posters into bulk lots, but it is a slow process.

Someday I might add $14 minimum buyers premiums, and then I will make money on every poster.

Hahaha... funny!

 thumbsup.gif

How did you do that, by the way.  Isn't the process the same.  Don't you still have to take pictures of all of them?  Very time consuming.

Look, I do buy those super cheap posters, so I'm happy you're selling them.  I bought a few tonite, but only the Very Good condition ones.  When you know a Good Fifty Shades of Grey is obviously not going to sell, why even bother?  It's just dead weight.

T
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Post by: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 09:28:14 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 09:02:45 PM
Hahaha... funny!

 thumbsup.gif

How did you do that, by the way.  Isn't the process the same.  Don't you still have to take pictures of all of them?  Very time consuming.

Look, I do buy those super cheap posters, so I'm happy you're selling them.  I bought a few tonite, but only the Very Good condition ones.  When you know a Good Fifty Shades of Grey is obviously not going to sell, why even bother?  It's just dead weight.

T

I am sorry, but I can't get into specifics of my auctions here. Holiday's rules, you know! :)
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Post by: eatbrie on February 11, 2016, 09:54:26 PM
Well played.

Carry on.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on February 11, 2016, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 09:28:14 PM
I am sorry, but I can't get into specifics of my auctions here. Holiday's rules, you know! :)

But you can go into the specifics in this thread, here in the Dealer section:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7898.0.html

I know Holiday would approve and give it a big thumbsup.gif
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Post by: BruceH on February 11, 2016, 11:56:59 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 11, 2016, 11:36:49 PM
But you can go into the specifics in this thread, here in the Dealer section:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7898.0.html

I know Holiday would approve and give it a big thumbsup.gif

Ah, but Thierry asked the question HERE, not there! If you want to move his question there, I will answer it there tomorrow.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2016, 12:57:24 AM
Another from the Benito vaults. An Italian 4F for The Wolf Man.  bed1

The art on this, done by Paolo Tarquini, is one of my favorites for the film, hands down. It's hard to tell if benito's copy is a bit faded or it's just the photography and lighting.

With a BIN of $22,100.00  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361484840489?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-2_zpsi3vph1h3.jpg)


And Italian seller martinati0 also has a copy. With a BIN of $29,900.00  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LON-CHANEY-JR-THE-WOLF-MAN-ITALIAN-ORIGINAL-POSTER-FIRST-RELEASE-1949-VERY-RARE-/191634213096

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/s-l1600-26_zps35yak78x.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 17, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
Current bid is $7000.00 but the reserve has NOT yet been met.

A French 1P for Key Largo (1948) with art by Pierre Pigeot.

And what a great looking poster!  notworthy.gif

https://paddle8.com/work/pierre-pigeot/97768-key-largo/

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/97768-1454669769-Key-Largo-120x160-xl_zps9ptjlr2o.jpg)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on February 17, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
wow screw posters, i'm just going to take a picture of my naked grandma by the lake and start the bidding at $4,000
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Post by: 110x75 on February 17, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
I'll take the polish "M", thank you.  ;D
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Post by: 50s on February 17, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on February 17, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
wow screw posters, i'm just going to take a picture of my naked grandma by the lake and start the bidding at $4,000

If you mean the key largo poster looks ugly Id agree the blue head is ghastly
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Post by: Mirosae on February 17, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 17, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
If you mean the key largo poster looks ugly Id agree the blue head is ghastly

I always thought this one poster was more of a  "green" colour just by looking at the HA archives. But you're right it looks blue here. Not my cuppa either.
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Post by: 50s on February 17, 2016, 05:08:45 PM
The hand looks like a grenade


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Post by: Mirosae on February 17, 2016, 05:20:17 PM
This is so iconic. Probably  outing myself  here...but what the heck...this insert is just........oh-lah -lah

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-3_zpse0vhevg1.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 17, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 17, 2016, 04:42:41 PM
I'll take the polish "M", thank you.  ;D

I haven't seen that one yet, Matias. Will check it out. 
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Post by: erik1925 on February 17, 2016, 11:02:52 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 17, 2016, 04:49:41 PM
If you mean the key largo poster looks ugly Id agree the blue head is ghastly

Its kind of like we were talking about in the other thread, too, Steve, about how things can appeal to some and not others.  ;)

I think the sharp color contrast works well and really highlights Bogie and Bacall in the center panel.
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Post by: Simes on February 18, 2016, 04:45:57 AM
This poor soul has been valiantly trying to flog this video poster for a lesser Bond film for some weeks now.

He started at £600 !, while asking for some input as to value.  I proffered £5 might be a better starting point but he has decided to gently decrease weekly.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-never-say-never-again-original-80s-UK-video-shop-poster-46cm-by-69cm-/151986994955?hash=item2363217f0b:g:hXAAAOSwnLdWsO6v

Hopeless.
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Post by: eatbrie on February 18, 2016, 06:56:08 PM
WTF?????

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 18, 2016, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 18, 2016, 06:56:08 PM
WTF?????

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103)



And here i was thinking that this one was  faint2.gif.. for a 15 x 37 inch hanging mobile!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4144946


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Post by: eatbrie on February 18, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
At least the last one, I get it, not for cup of tea, but it has a cool picture of Clint, so why not.  But the first one?  Makes no sense whatsoever.

T
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Post by: oldposterho on February 18, 2016, 07:36:13 PM
Dear Clint,

You're not the boss of me.

Signed,

Debbie
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Post by: erik1925 on February 18, 2016, 09:06:30 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 18, 2016, 06:56:08 PM
WTF?????

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4145103)

Interesting, too, that the letter isn't signed or even on Malpaso Prod/WB letterhead.

I mean, Debbie could have printed that letter up herself...LOL   qip   (I jest, of course).

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Post by: 110x75 on February 18, 2016, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: oldposterho on February 18, 2016, 07:36:13 PM
Dear Clint,

You're not the boss of me.

Signed,

Debbie

 ;D
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Post by: eatbrie on February 19, 2016, 12:08:29 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 18, 2016, 09:06:30 PM
Interesting, too, that the letter isn't signed or even on Malpaso Prod/WB letterhead.

I mean, Debbie could have printed that letter up herself...LOL   qip   (I jest, of course).



If it was signed, it would be signed by a 17 year old summer intern, like 99% of Hollywood correspondence.  So it's better unsigned.  But yeah, you're right, it should have been on letterhead.  Hopefully, whoever bought it is not a member of this forum ;)

T
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2016, 12:15:36 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on February 19, 2016, 12:08:29 AM
If it was signed, it would be signed by a 17 year old summer intern, like 99% of Hollywood correspondence.  So it's better unsigned.  But yeah, you're right, it should have been on letterhead.  Hopefully, whoever bought it is not a member of this forum ;)

T

Yes.

This, some of us do know, T.  ;)

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Post by: 50s on February 19, 2016, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 19, 2016, 12:15:36 AM
Yes.

This, some of us do know, T.  ;)




This means, Jeff is no dummy T


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Post by: eatbrie on February 19, 2016, 12:52:36 AM
I guess you learn something every day.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2016, 12:53:57 AM
 imbecile.gif

 hope so. prayer.gif
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Post by: 50s on February 19, 2016, 12:58:57 AM
^ haha
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Post by: Mirosae on February 19, 2016, 02:40:12 AM
Quote from: oldposterho on February 18, 2016, 07:36:13 PM
Dear Clint,

You're not the boss of me.

Signed,

Debbie

Haha ;D That is what I thought!
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Post by: Crazy Vick on February 19, 2016, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: 50s on February 19, 2016, 12:50:33 AM

This means, Jeff is no dummy T



It means Jeff is actually 17 year old intern.
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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2016, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on February 19, 2016, 10:58:16 AM
It means Jeff is actually 17 year old intern.

Im like SO busted.  blowingkiss.gif

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/moi_zpsleez4ohq.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on February 19, 2016, 02:53:37 PM
I'm jealous Vick... Jeff, blow me some kisses


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Post by: erik1925 on February 19, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 19, 2016, 02:53:37 PM
I'm jealous Vick... Jeff, blow me some kisses




 :-* :-* blowingkiss.gif girly.gif  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on February 20, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
Title LC for Casablanca.

BIN: $8950.00 / OBO

Needs some reworking and touch ups to the 4 corners, but the art looks vibrant and unfaded.  bed1
It isn't described as backed, but it looks like fiber strands around the top, left and bottom borders. Not sure what that is, tho.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASABLANCA-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-TITLE-LOBBY-CARD-1942-11x14-SUPERB-COLOR/401056712546?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140602152332%26meid%3D22644191f31d4fa3b0ac5c92cb3d79ca%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D391385639029

BIN(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/s-l1600-40_zpsxurbkb8k.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on February 22, 2016, 07:43:34 AM

EMP description:
"sexy artwork of teen with milk jugs!" (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?src=lnk&wle=8812734&e=rb&id=4150370)

Looking at the poster I would describe them as milk bottles, but I get where you are coming from



(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160216/550/teenage_milkmaid_SD04912_L.jpg)


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Post by: eatbrie on February 22, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
 thumbsup.gif  Funny!

T
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Post by: basemem on February 24, 2016, 03:51:57 PM
Great description there from EMP! Did make me laugh
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Post by: YugoMoviePoster on February 28, 2016, 03:56:40 AM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160223/550/italian_pbusta_medium_tread_softly_stranger_SD01448_L.jpg)

www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=post;topic=833.7325;num_replies=7340

What a FAN-TA-STICK image of Diana Dors !!!  :o :o :o  faint2.gif
I can't stop staring like a hypnotised.

Shame about condition though...  eyeroll
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Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2016, 08:01:22 PM
Frankenstein - 1938 RR Half sheet.  bed1   notworthy.gif

BIN: $27,500.00

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/s-l1600-40_zpstxqvneuv.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-1938-KARLOFF-HALF-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-ONLY-ONE-KNOWN-/151997367968?hash=item2363bfc6a0:g:1HAAAOSwYaFWf4P2

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 06:02:28 AM
Please take a look on those two Metropolis Ross signed postcards, at EMP auctions that are closing today:

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160228/german_misc_metropolis_signed_a_BM06070_L.jpg)
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160228/german_misc_brigitte_helm_signed_a_BM06066_L.jpg)


Both are (allegedly) "personally autographed (signed) by Brigitte Helm!".

Now, You don`t need to be Sherlock Holmes to realise that those two signatures are completely different.
After about a minute of googling, it is clear that first one FOR SURE is not Brigitte Helm signature.
The second one is probably authentic.

So, instead of Metropolis postcard ""personally autographed (signed) by Brigitte Helm!"." you have Metropolis Postcard ruined with fake signature.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on March 06, 2016, 08:03:07 AM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 06:02:28 AM
Please take a look on those two Metropolis Ross signed postcards, at EMP auctions that are closing today:

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160228/german_misc_metropolis_signed_a_BM06070_L.jpg)
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160228/german_misc_brigitte_helm_signed_a_BM06066_L.jpg)


Both are (allegedly) "personally autographed (signed) by Brigitte Helm!".

Now, You don`t need to be Sherlock Holmes to realise that those two signatures are completely different.
After about a minute of googling, it is clear that first one FOR SURE is not Brigitte Helm signature.
The second one is probably authentic.

So, instead of Metropolis postcard ""personally autographed (signed) by Brigitte Helm!"." you have Metropolis Postcard ruined with fake signature.


Have you let Bruce and his team know. They will amend the description and maybe even re-do the listing.
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Post by: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on March 06, 2016, 08:03:07 AM
Have you let Bruce and his team know. They will amend the description and maybe even re-do the listing.

I have noticed this today. And they don`t work on weekend, so there is no point to send email now.
Otherway, I would surely let them know directly - as I always do.
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Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
I have noticed this today. And they don`t work on weekend, so there is no point to send email now.
Otherway, I would surely let them know directly - as I always do.


Once again, someone does everything right in pointing out an obvious error in our listing, EXCEPT that they don't bother contacting us in any way!

As I have repeatedly said, it is fine with me if you want to brag about finding a mistake here on this forum, but please ALSO take a moment to click on the "ASK QUESTION" link on the auction, so we can be notified and fix it.

Luckily, I happened to see this today before it closed, and I got Matt to meet me at work while we are closed.

We ended the auction, notified those who bid on it or looked at it that it was not signed, and we will re-list it in the future as being a card where someone wrote her name on it, and that it is not signed by her.

Thanks for helping, but you would be a far bigger help if you would LET US KNOW DIRECTLY, even on the weekends, because I AM willing to go to the extra trouble of going to work and fixing it even then!
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Post by: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 01:50:41 PM
Yes, the error was mine. Sorry folks. Please accept my sincere apologies for the mistake. Be sure that I will not do it again. :-X
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Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 01:50:41 PM
Yes, the error was mine. Sorry folks. Please accept my sincere apologies for the mistake. Be sure that I will not do it again. :-X

You thought there was nothing to be done because we are closed, so it is understandable. But it REALLY only takes a second to notify us, and you surely spent a lot more time making your post.

I very much DO want you (and everyone else) to keep finding errors!

So I apologize if I was too harsh in my post above. Thanks for the help, and I promise to always fix mistakes in the future, just as we have done in the past!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 01:50:41 PM
Yes, the error was mine. Sorry folks. Please accept my sincere apologies for the mistake. Be sure that I will not do it again. :-X

You made no mistake and you were also not "bragging" in any way, shape or form, imho.

You posted to the forum and merely pointed out the difference in 2 signatures, thinking that emp was closed.





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Post by: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Yes, It was too harsh. But, everything is OK.

The auctions are up for a week. There is no chance that nobody else did not notice error with the auction.
But some people just don`t care to do others job, and correct others errors.

I always like to help, whenever I can. As you already know that Bruce.

It was strange to me that auction with the BRIGITTE HELM signature on Metropolis postcard, was at the moment at so much lower price, than the other BRIGITTE HELM signed postcard.
It should be the otherway. So, that is implying that SOME people did noticed error and avoid to bid on the auction.
I wanted to bid, looked at card and it looked strange so I have compare it with other one and noticed obvious error.

As said, always when I see something like that I send email to Matt. But, since it is sunday I presume that you don`t work as it stated on EMP website.
So, that only way (as I saw it) to draw attention to that error was to post it here. Anybody who read it, could also let you know, but no one did it.
So please don't shoot the messenger.  ;)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
On this remaining card: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4161977

How is this autograph known to be Helm's, for certain? What is the provenance of this card (and the other signed examples) and can the autograph be said to be hers, 100%? (vs it having been written by someone who was merely copying her style).

Nothing is discussed in this regard, in the description.

Or is that left for the winning bidder to determine, after the fact? dontknow.gif

The sig almost looks like it was written with a grease pencil or crayon.
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Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
Yes, It was too harsh. But, everything is OK.

The auctions are up for a week. There is no chance that nobody else did not notice error with the auction.
But some people just don`t care to do others job, and correct others errors.

I always like to help, whenever I can. As you already know that Bruce.

It was strange to me that auction with the BRIGITTE HELM signature on Metropolis postcard, was at the moment at so much lower price, than the other BRIGITTE HELM signed postcard.
It should be the otherway. So, that is implying that SOME people did noticed error and avoid to bid on the auction.
I wanted to bid, looked at card and it looked strange so I have compare it with other one and noticed obvious error.

As said, always when I see something like that I send email to Matt. But, since it is sunday I presume that you don`t work as it stated on EMP website.
So, that only way (as I saw it) to draw attention to that error was to post it here. Anybody who read it, could also let you know, but no one did it.
So please don't shoot the messenger.  ;)



Even when we are not at work, I still check the emails about errors. Some I can fix from home, and others, if they seem important enough, I drop what I am doing and go to work, as I did today!

And you are right that most serious collectors knew it was not her signature, which accounted for the low bid price.

If you had not posted, and I had not seen it, the only difference is that first thing Monday I would have emailed the high bidder telling them it was not a signature, and it would have been cancelled after the fact. And then it would have been re-auctioned, correctly described, just as it now will be.

Once again, I greatly appreciate your pointing it out. Just please do ALWAYS notify us, as I DO monitor the emails on the times we are closed.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
I found that the same "yanked" card was offered on another auction site, in May of 2015, from a seller in Latvia.

At that time, it was offered at a BIN price of 45 euros.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
On this remaining card: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4161977

How is this autograph known to be Helm's, for certain? What is the provenance of this card (and the other signed examples) and can the autograph be said to be hers, 100%? (vs it having been written by someone who was merely copying her style).

Nothing is discussed in this regard, in the description.

Or is that left for the winning bidder to determine, after the fact? dontknow.gif

The sig almost looks like it was written with a grease pencil or crayon.

I have no Certificate of Authenticity for this. On all signed items, buyers have 30 days from the end of the auction to do whatever "authenticating" they want to do, and they can return any signed item within that time.

I assume you know that there are tons of dishonest autograph dealers in the world, and that Certificates of Authenticity are often worthless. One is always gambling when buying a signed item, unless it has impeccable provenance, and when items do, they almost always sell for multiples of the price of similar signed items that don't have it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
I found that the same "yanked" card was offered on another auction site, in May of 2015, from a seller in Latvia.

At that time, it was offered at a BIN price of 45 euros.

I will first email the consignor that I am sure it is not signed. He may want it back (if he insists it is real).

If not, it will be auctioned properly identified, and I imagine it might sell for $10 to $20, at most.
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Post by: YugoMoviePoster on March 06, 2016, 02:54:27 PM
Good question, but when it comes to signature authencity it really looks that is left to bidders to determine is it real or not.

At Heritage, this complete set of 12 Postcards (sold for: $3,585.00) also had as extra one with the Helm's signature:
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/metropolis-ufa-1927-german-postcard-set-of-12-andamp-autographed-postcard-35-x-55-total-13-items-/a/7078-83184.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

No provenance, or guarantee, whatsoever.

Now, I see that Bruce have 30 days rule, that is fair as can be.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 03:15:16 PM
try to see how long it takes to get an authentication from an authentication service

this discussion appeared before. 30 days isn't nearly enough

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7288.0.html
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 02:47:56 PM
I have no Certificate of Authenticity for this. On all signed items, buyers have 30 days from the end of the auction to do whatever "authenticating" they want to do, and they can return any signed item within that time.

I assume you know that there are tons of dishonest autograph dealers in the world, and that Certificates of Authenticity are often worthless. One is always gambling when buying a signed item, unless it has impeccable provenance, and when items do, they almost always sell for multiples of the price of similar signed items that don't have it.

I never said nor was suggesting a Cert of Authenticity, as those are usually worthless.

I was more meaning that in your description, you state that the card was signed by Helm:

"Important Added Info: Note that this item has been personally autographed (signed) by Brigitte Helm!"

If you don't know this for certain, and have no way of verifying that, how can you state in the auction that it WAS actually signed by her?

And whys does it fall on the shoulders of the winning bidder to prove what they have purchased is genuine? That should be the responsibility of the seller/dealer/auctioneer.

And if questionable, is it not in everyone's best interest to just pull the auction altogether?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 04:44:39 PM
Since you obviously do not like the way I run my signed auctions, you should not participate in them. But please do not tell me what to do.

There are many people who have told me that they find our signed auctions far superior to those of the others.

But that is what makes the world so great. Everyone is free to disagree.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 04:55:54 PM
How is asking questions when it comes to the legitimacy of auctioned autographs and their validity, equated with not liking how you run your auctions?

There is no correlation.

The question simply related to details about signed pieces like the one above. And it wouldnt matter if it was emp or anyone else selling it.

The signature topic has been discussed before, how easily they can be forged and why provenance is considered an important factor, when anyone chooses to sell something that is signed, stating that the autograph is the "genuine article."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Jeff, you are getting Bruce to discuss his business outside the dealer section. I don't think Bruce will answer unless the posts are relocated to that section

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Jeff, you are getting Bruce to discuss his business outside the dealer section. I don't think Bruce will answer unless the posts are relocated to that section



good sarcasm. a mid-auction item was discussed..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on March 06, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Jeff, you are getting Bruce to discuss his business outside the dealer section. I don't think Bruce will answer unless the posts are relocated to that section



Plus this way, it allows for attacks from others. Pretty slick!

I used to wonder why only a tiny number of people post here and why so many left to start other forums. I am now starting to understand why that is.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 05:04:39 PM
good sarcasm. a mid-auction item was discussed..

Yes but the discussion moved on to signed items in general, thus how Bruce runs his business. The forum post cutting shears need to come out now

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:13:01 PM
Yes but the discussion moved on to signed items in general, thus how Bruce runs his business. The forum post cutting shears need to come out now



oh bs.. it follows the same path as usual discussions.

 moron1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:13:01 PM
Yes but the discussion moved on to signed items in general, thus how Bruce runs his business. The forum post cutting shears need to come out now





I say all this with sarcasm as it all seems a bit silly

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 05:24:19 PM
it all seems a bit silly

what's silly about it Steve?

is it not informative when people point out mistakes with auctions throughout the internet?

certainly if it was some ebay sellers - like the guy who was offering the Cleopatra 1sh, or that guy Shutterisland - people would be chiming in about it, wouldn't they?

the autographs issue was discussed before and the same issue exists as it did then.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 06, 2016, 08:38:31 PM
^ what is silly? First thing is your response. I'm talking about conversations shifting that they then need to continue in another thread to avoid breaking forum rules

A dealer answering questions related to the question should be fine, but dealer self promotion not clearly related to the question is what is best in the dealer section

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2016, 08:38:31 PM
A dealer answering questions related to the question should be fine, but dealer self promotion not clearly related to the question is what is best in the dealer section

of course that is correct. but when you turn the answer into self promotion - that is a no

I can answer questions without also saying "that's why at MoviePosterBid we always guarantee our sales for life" or "that's why our auctions are better than those other people's auctions"

I think that's the difference in what the rules do and do not allow

and it's why my posts in discussion NEVER contain self promo. I understand the rules, which I agree with, so I don't do it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: mwright on March 06, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
In other news, I'm really frickin' happy with what I got from the emovieposter site today.  Looking forward to sharing with you all.  Also that auction coming up from Heritage looks pretty big.  Don't know if I'll be able to pick anything up from it but some of the items are super cool. I've been really good with not spending too much over the past couple months.  The auctions have been very tempting, though... uhno
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: mwright on March 06, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
that auction coming up from Heritage looks pretty big. 

I had seen an image of an item a number of weeks back in a specific format and said to myself "Man, wouldn't I like to find THAT poster"

then when I looked at their auction last week, out of nowhere appeared the very poster that I wanted to find.

it was a head shaking moment.. Guess I'll be bidding!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
The HA auction sure has some wonderful poster goodness again, this time around. There is no doubt.

And such a great number of things that havent been seen before or that show up much less frequently.

Again, Grey has put a terrific looking selection together.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2016, 07:10:36 PM
Being a Lon Chaney fan, I have always thought this WC was a great looking piece for The Unknown:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4172779

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160308/550/wc_unknown_ES02267_T.jpg)

This card has been auctioned 3 other times by EMP and 5 other times by HA:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/UNKNOWN%2520%2528%252727%2529/tag/xtype%253Awindow%2520card/archive.html

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&chkNotSold=0&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=%22the+unknown%22+1927+window+card&ic4=KeywordSearch-071515

What's interesting is that all the cards have the same information in the imprint area same start date, theater and city. Even ones that have appeared on the bay over the years have this same info.

Quite a number must have been found that originated in this town. And most are in generally good condition, too.  thumbup


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on March 10, 2016, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 10, 2016, 07:10:36 PM
Being a Lon Chaney fan, I have always thought this WC was a great looking piece for The Unknown:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4172779

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160308/550/wc_unknown_ES02267_T.jpg)

This card has been auctioned 3 other times by EMP and 5 other times by HA:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/UNKNOWN%2520%2528%252727%2529/tag/xtype%253Awindow%2520card/archive.html

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&chkNotSold=0&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=%22the+unknown%22+1927+window+card&ic4=KeywordSearch-071515

What's interesting is that all the cards have the same information in the imprint area same start date, theater and city. Even ones that have appeared on the bay over the years have this same info.

Quite a number must have been found that originated in this town. And most are in generally good condition, too.  thumbup




There WAS a large find of these made. I have three more of these to auction, but those are in much lesser condition. I am sure there are no more after this last one, which is in great unrestored condition, (and the three damaged ones). I bet this one does well, because it is so nice.

If there were not so many of them, I think it would be at least a $3,000 to $5,000 card.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2016, 07:21:34 PM
Do you find it interesting that after all these years that none stamped with another location or dates has ever shown up?

And (as a side note, but related), I think this style is just the bomb.  bed1 Is this one that you also auctioned? I see it is only shown in your auction image archive without any other info about its sale, date etc. Have you come across one since then?

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/haarchive/550/ScanE258_20130220_160307.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 10, 2016, 07:46:53 PM
I really need to get some "The Unknown" paper. Might be one of those lesser cards you'll auction in the future, unless I find the argentinean one sheet before...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 18, 2016, 04:11:29 PM
Wow.. this is a beauty.   bed1

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/dark-victory-warner-brothers-1939-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-/a/7125-86015.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F7%2F5%2F6%2F13756639%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on March 19, 2016, 04:18:20 PM
Finally got a chance to look at the HA catalog.  Some nice stuff as always.  Once I get rid of all the linenbacked posters I do not want, it leaves me with 26 folded posters on my list, most in the first 2 sessions, 3 that I really want.  57 that I already own.

I'm ready (and cracking my knuckles.)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 19, 2016, 09:56:26 PM
This 1962RR HS for Pinocchio is being offered as an original 1940 release. Asking price: $2400.00   faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinocchio-Movie-Poster-1940-Original-Vibrant-Spectacu-Very-Good-Condition-/231882157553?fromMakeTrack=true

I messaged the seller. Whether he/she replies or not remains to be seen, or if the auction is changed.

EMP last sold one on Jan of 2013, for $28.00

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5370804.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 20, 2016, 12:50:03 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 19, 2016, 09:56:26 PM
This 1962RR HS for Pinocchio is being offered as an original 1940 release. Asking price: $2400.00   faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinocchio-Movie-Poster-1940-Original-Vibrant-Spectacu-Very-Good-Condition-/231882157553?fromMakeTrack=true

I messaged the seller. Whether he/she replies or not remains to be seen, or if the auction is changed.

EMP last sold one on Jan of 2013, for $28.00

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5370804.html

Wow.  Well spotted.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 20, 2016, 01:50:01 PM
I heard back a couple times last night. They are not poster people, but they said they asked someone who knows posters and that person said it was from 1940.

I sent them more info.. (prior sales links and pics from both HA and emp) and they said they would check it out when they got back to their office/gallery on Monday. So they at least sounded receptive to the info.

Hopefully, more to come (maybe).  dontknow.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on March 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Good spot.

The auction has been halted.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 22, 2016, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 19, 2016, 04:18:20 PM
Finally got a chance to look at the HA catalog.  Some nice stuff as always.  Once I get rid of all the linenbacked posters I do not want, it leaves me with 26 folded posters on my list, most in the first 2 sessions, 3 that I really want.  57 that I already own.

I'm ready (and cracking my knuckles.)
 
T

Good luck bidding. Particularly  on those 3 you really want.

Interesting to see how others feel. I am in some sort of "maybe" state. Not sure if I really want a poster now. On the other hand...I might regret it if I let it go.

I call it the "poster flu"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on March 22, 2016, 11:33:25 AM
Quote from: Mirosae on March 22, 2016, 11:08:52 AM
Not sure if I really want a poster now.

Go see a doctor. ASAP.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2016, 12:33:55 PM
Quote from: Simes on March 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Good spot.

The auction has been halted.

Good to know.

I literally just got a message from them as I was writing my response. The seller wrote:

Hi:

Thanks for all of your help. You are right on the provenance of the poster and we shipped it back to our consignor and removed it from our listings.

Our area of expertise is in antique film making equipment and not in posters, obviously. We wanted to offer some vintage posters to our clients along with the equipment they purchase from us.

If we can ever help you with any vintage equipment needs, please let me know.

Thanks so much for your help on this.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 22, 2016, 01:35:18 PM
Good on you Jeff and well done auction house

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 22, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on March 22, 2016, 11:33:25 AM
Go see a doctor. ASAP.

Hahaha... oouuuuups  :P
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Post by: jayn_j on March 22, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
Good job, Jeff!
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Post by: erik1925 on March 22, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Thanks, jay. It was nice to see that this person appreciated the info and took the right steps.  :)

Unlike so many others (ebay or elsewhere) that are nothing but ungrateful and unappreciative snobs who think they know it all, when in truth, they know little to nothing. Hence their defensive and snarky attitudes, oftentimes.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 27, 2016, 10:25:02 PM
A total reprint repro.. it even reads "printed in Belgium" in English on the right corner. Yet its in the Original section.

The seller is away until 3/29, this auction closes in 30 min.

Current bid is 13.50

Rear Window

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fenetre-Sur-Cour-James-Stewart-Alfred-Hitchcock-Vintage-Movie-Poster-rare-21x14-/131758075591?hash=item1ead64aec7:g:7ooAAOSwMORW7zT1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 28, 2016, 12:36:02 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 22, 2016, 04:21:33 PM
Thanks, jay. It was nice to see that this person appreciated the info and took the right steps.  :)

Unlike so many others (ebay or elsewhere) that are nothing but ungrateful and unappreciative snobs who think they know it all, when in truth, they know little to nothing. Hence their defensive and snarky attitudes, oftentimes.

Yep.

Most people do the right thing.  Good to see that was the case here.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2016, 01:00:18 AM
Quote from: Neo on March 28, 2016, 12:36:02 AM
Yep.

Most people do the right thing.  Good to see that was the case here.



I agree with you, Brandon. It was nice to see, and get an appreciative response.

But oftentimes, some of the snootiest and "snobbiest" (as well as those that lack any decorum or the ability to buy and apply Lee Press-On Nails) can be much closer to home.  puke
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on March 28, 2016, 09:29:56 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 27, 2016, 10:25:02 PM
A total reprint repro.. it even reads "printed in Belgium" in English on the right corner. Yet its in the Original section.

The seller is away until 3/29, this auction closes in 30 min.

Current bid is 13.50

Rear Window

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fenetre-Sur-Cour-James-Stewart-Alfred-Hitchcock-Vintage-Movie-Poster-rare-21x14-/131758075591?hash=item1ead64aec7:g:7ooAAOSwMORW7zT1

OTOH, it sold for $15, which seems about fair.  It may have been misrepresented, but nobody was fooled.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2016, 12:25:05 PM
That's good to know, jay. Would have been awful, had it climbed to some wuthering height.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on March 28, 2016, 02:20:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 28, 2016, 12:25:05 PM
That's good to know, jay. Would have been awful, had it climbed to some wuthering height.

 Doh.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 29, 2016, 06:13:02 PM
I received a Casablanca poster alert from HA. I opened the email with anticipation and found this........ :-\ :-X :(

You of course might think that Bogie never looked so good....


(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-7_zpsp7ir9xer.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 29, 2016, 09:44:58 PM
Casablanca Records -- Here's looking at you kid! 








And never able to un-looking I might add.  Even when I close my eyes I can still see it.  :o
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on March 30, 2016, 06:53:09 AM
Yes....I am still in  faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on March 30, 2016, 12:45:46 PM
Nice ears

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Post by: Mirosae on March 30, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
Yes...very bright ears..  :)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2016, 02:30:55 PM
Its only $40K!  (obo)   sad.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-1944-BORIS-KARLOFF-LON-CHANEY-14x36-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/381583681616?hash=item58d828e850:g:52AAAOSwe7BWzUdP
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 09, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
looks like ma500969 is also a big Charlie Chaplin fan.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/nation%253AU.S./tag/extra%253Afirst/tag/star%253ACharlie%2520Chaplin/15.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2016, 12:50:20 AM
Good for ma...  thumbup

He/she seems like a very discerning collector.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 10, 2016, 02:28:06 AM
Beatles Help 6 sheet on linen pinned to wall:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Beatles-Movie-Poster-Six-Sheet-6-HELP-Linen-Backed-AWESOME-Huge-/281995434029?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.com/itm/Beatles-Movie-Poster-Six-Sheet-6-HELP-Linen-Backed-AWESOME-Huge-/281995434029?nav=SEARCH)

Nice to see a six sheet on a wall

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2016, 02:40:44 AM
I dont see any overlapping panels (the lines or seams of the various sections).

In that pic, it almost looks like one solid, printed sheet.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on April 10, 2016, 05:43:12 AM
Were there ever any six sheets printed whole??  Thought they were all glued together on the board...?
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Post by: jedgerley on April 10, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
Hard to see overlaps with the quality of the photos used for the that auction
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 10, 2016, 01:58:00 PM
Quote from: Simes on April 10, 2016, 05:43:12 AM
Were there ever any six sheets printed whole??

no
there are 3 sheets that are one piece, Star Wars among them. I believe only late 1960s -1970s threes can be found this way
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2016, 02:04:23 PM
The Raiders/Lost Ark 3sh looks to have been done on a single piece of paper, too.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA110602/550/3sh_raiders_of_the_lost_ark_NZ02297_L.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 10, 2016, 02:27:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 10, 2016, 02:04:23 PM
The Raiders/Lost Ark 3sh looks to have been done on a single piece of paper, too.


yes.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on April 10, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on April 10, 2016, 01:58:00 PM
no
there are 3 sheets that are one piece, Star Wars among them. I believe only late 1960s -1970s threes can be found this way

Yeah - three sheets I can believe.  Never thought six-sheets were presented whole.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
I guess it could be easy to say that the backing job of the 6sh in the above mentioned ebay auction was done seamlessly.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: timelessmoviemagic on April 11, 2016, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 09, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
looks like ma500969 is also a big Charlie Chaplin fan.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/nation%253AU.S./tag/extra%253Afirst/tag/star%253ACharlie%2520Chaplin/15.html

Anyone discovered who this person is yet?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on April 11, 2016, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on April 11, 2016, 10:04:45 AM
Anyone discovered who this person is yet?

No, but the quest goes on

(https://cmureadme.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/an-angry-mob.png)

 :D
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Post by: Mirosae on April 11, 2016, 05:19:10 PM
^ Easy tiger...don't  burn the posters.  devil 2

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Mirosae on April 11, 2016, 05:21:56 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on April 09, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
looks like ma500969 is also a big Charlie Chaplin fan.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/nation%253AU.S./tag/extra%253Afirst/tag/star%253ACharlie%2520Chaplin/15.html

Yes...I noticed s/he has quite an erratic  bidding. I'm fine with it, s/he can keep the Chaplins :D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 110x75 on April 11, 2016, 08:55:38 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on April 11, 2016, 05:19:10 PM
^ Easy tiger...don't  burn the posters.  devil 2



Dificil pedir calma a una turba iracunda...  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2016, 01:39:45 PM
This is a most disturbing image, no doubt about it. Those Italians show it like it is.  :o

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4203125
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Post by: 50s on April 15, 2016, 07:46:05 AM
Party pooper

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160414/550/german_a1_bordello_ES03288_T.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4208863)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Ari on April 15, 2016, 08:28:28 AM
Ive got that poster Steve.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on April 15, 2016, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: Ari on April 15, 2016, 08:28:28 AM
Ive got that poster Steve.


I think you have every German poster every published that has boobs  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2016, 12:19:15 PM
The lone guy on the poster looks rather twitterpated, though.  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2016, 07:03:25 PM
Trimmed House of Frankenstein WC

It's darkened a bit but i think it would clean up nicely.

BIN: $4999.99 / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-RARE-ORIG-WINDOW-CARD-BORIS-KARLOFF-LON-CHANEY-JR-1944-/111968909774?hash=item1a11ddf9ce:g:YC0AAOSw1DtXDvqY

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YC0AAOSw1DtXDvqY/s-l400.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 28, 2016, 07:51:27 PM
Bruce is selling my favorite Struzan (http://eatbrie.com/Struzan.html).

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Ladyhawke3.jpg)

T
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2016, 12:06:01 AM
^ I think this is also my favorite poster for the movie, too.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
It will be interesting to see how this OS finishes out tomorrow. It's currently at $5805.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4221210

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160424/550/casey_at_the_bat_styleA_linen_BM06254_T.jpg)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
In looking at the great close up of this poster: http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4221415 , it looks like the long vertical tear that you mention (that goes down, from her hair and thru the fur stole of the woman's collar) has been touched up with a black marker or pen/pencil of some kind possibly? A smaller, similar retouch mark is also to the left, next to her glove, in the black area.

Or is this due to lighting, as nothing about these dark marks is mentioned in the description.

It's another beautiful poster and image, too, BTW.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/touchup_zpsjyvraeay.jpg)

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160424/550/sham_styleB_linen_SD05355_T.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Louie D. on April 30, 2016, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 30, 2016, 05:14:18 PM
It will be interesting to see how this OS finishes out tomorrow. It's currently at $5805.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4221210

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160424/550/casey_at_the_bat_styleA_linen_BM06254_T.jpg)



It's a good movie, too!
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Post by: erik1925 on April 30, 2016, 06:27:46 PM
Wallace Beery was such a good actor. I liked him in comedic and light hearted movies, too, like Dinner At Eight or Min & Bill.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Anyone bidding on the Star wars triple bill at emovieposter, I would advise you to do your home work.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 12:28:52 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Anyone bidding on the Star wars triple bill at emovieposter, I would advise you to do your home work.

Paul, are you meaning that it might another of the similar-looking/sized commercial copies that have been sold in the past?  dontknow.gif
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Post by: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Yes it's a repro, as was the double bill they sold a week or so back.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Yes it's a repro, as was the double bill they sold a week or so back.

So are all the quads that are slightly undersized for this triple bill title, (that measure about 27x39), also repros? Or were legit quads also produced in this slightly smaller format?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 02:58:03 PM
Is this a Japanese poster? It's all in English and also has no Eirin mark. Is it similar to the others like this that were discussed in some earlier threads?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4239832

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160510/550/japanese_b2_dario_argento_aesthetics_of_blood_SD05623_C.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 14, 2016, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Anyone bidding on the Star wars triple bill at emovieposter, I would advise you to do your home work.

Quote from: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 12:28:52 PM
Paul, are you meaning that it might another of the similar-looking/sized commercial copies that have been sold in the past?  dontknow.gif

Quote from: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 02:06:07 PM
Yes it's a repro, as was the double bill they sold a week or so back.

I guess this is what he refers to as his "competitive advantage" over Heritage in that Robin Hood thread on VMPF


Quote from: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 02:08:29 PM
So are all the quads that are slightly undersized for this triple bill title, (that measure about 27x39), also repros? Or were legit quads also produced in this slightly smaller format?

even I know that's a fact. Quads are 30x40
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 04:52:48 PM
All interesting.

In this sorted group, there are what look like 3 UK quads in the top row, but are called German commercial posters (all slightly undersized from from the typical UK quad measurements):

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/STAR%2520WARS%2520TRILOGY%2520%2528%252783%2529/tag/nation%253AGermany/archive.html

Yet they look the same as the 7 out 9 shown here, also with the same undersized dimensions (note: there are 2 full size 30x40 quads in this grouping), yet some care called undersized, legit quads, and others are called repros:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/STAR%2520WARS%2520TRILOGY%2520%2528%252783%2529/tag/xtype%253ABritish%2520quad/archive.html

Needless to say, Im feeling a bit  dontknow.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 14, 2016, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 04:52:48 PM
All interesting.

In this sorted group, there are what look like 3 UK quads in the top row, but are called German commercial posters (all slightly undersized from from the typical UK quad measurements):

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/STAR%2520WARS%2520TRILOGY%2520%2528%252783%2529/tag/nation%253AGermany/archive.html

Yet they look the same as the 7 out 9 shown here, also with the same undersized dimensions (note: there are 2 full size 30x40 quads in this grouping), yet some care called undersized, legit quads, and others are called repros:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/STAR%2520WARS%2520TRILOGY%2520%2528%252783%2529/tag/xtype%253ABritish%2520quad/archive.html

Needless to say, Im feeling a bit  dontknow.gif

those listings will be sanitized soon enouggh
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2016, 05:08:09 PM
That's why I was curious, too, if Quadmeister Waines, in his never ending search, had also run across or heard of quads that were done in this undersized format, too.
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Post by: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 03:01:54 AM
I did inform Bruces team, they told me they were Quads from the underground!, but they were a different size. The double and Triple bills are notorious for have repros done. They were all over at some of the UK film fairs, Terry of Quadbod first alerted me to them, and they are easy to spot and those are them. 
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2016, 03:05:33 AM
So you mean it's going to remain listed as a legit quad on the EMP auction? (If i'm understanding you correctly?)
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Post by: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 03:11:08 AM
We all have opinions, and all I'm saying is do your homework if you're going to bid on them. I'm not sure who the Star wars "experts" are or what they know about posters, but from a poster collector, do your homework before bidding. Bruce can only go by what he's told, but it's by whom...
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
Quote from: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 03:11:08 AM
We all have opinions, and all I'm saying is do your homework if you're going to bid on them. I'm not sure who the Star wars "experts" are or what they know about posters, but from a poster collector, do your homework before bidding. Bruce can only go by what he's told, but it's by whom...

Makes total sense, Paul.

So are those prior sales examples that I linked to above (the undersized quads) also ones that could be "iffy" depending on who one talks to? As you said, it's all about the info one is given.
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Post by: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 07:19:23 AM
On one of those pages, two are genuine Quads, the others are repros.
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Post by: Undead on May 15, 2016, 10:47:43 AM
I don't think I own any of the triple bills to compare with but I do have several of both sizes for other quads. Never noticed anything different between them other than size. Will go back and do a close comparison now and see if paper, ink or anything else is off. Have a wedding to go to so doubt it will be before the end of the auction but will try.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2016, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 07:19:23 AM
On one of those pages, two are genuine Quads, the others are repros.

Is it the 2 on which the the top of Vader's head isnt cut off as much, Paul?

On all the others, the top of his helmet is much more sheered off.
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Post by: paul waines on May 15, 2016, 01:19:36 PM
Yes, and they also have a thick gold band across the bottom..
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2016, 01:20:08 PM
Thanks, Paul.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Harry Caul on May 15, 2016, 05:17:31 PM
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2896.0.html

The Thing, Moonraker, and the Never Say Never Again teaser are often found trimmed as well. Always thought these were legit, but trimmed at the printers. Has anyone compared them under a loupe? 
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Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2016, 02:12:53 PM
Quote from: paul waines on May 14, 2016, 09:00:28 AM
Anyone bidding on the Star wars triple bill at emovieposter, I would advise you to do your home work.

This item closes tonight, and even with the previous commentary and speculation that this could be an undersized repro, it looks like it will continue to be listed & sold. Wouldn't it be better to pull something like this, since there are questions about it, as well as comments from collectors like Paul W, who specialize in quads?

Then, if all checks out, simply re-list it later?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4239599
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 17, 2016, 02:36:54 PM
it absolutely should be pulled

I posted a Poll on this subject

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,10841.0.html
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Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2016, 06:55:53 PM
What is the difference between the one being offered this afternoon, and this one, that just sold on April 26th, for $10.00 USD and is described as a German-produced reproduction?

I cant make out any additional printer's info on any of the borders (maybe it's very small) and the dimensions are exactly identical to today's offering. If it were a legit or licensed repro (vs. some run off bootleg), wouldn't the German printer's name be on it somewhere?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/14056856.html
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Post by: eatbrie on May 17, 2016, 10:04:49 PM
Bidding on Bruce's auction while watching basketball at a bar full of people while making sure none of your friends in attendance notice is no easy feat.

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Post by: Crazy Vick on May 17, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on May 17, 2016, 10:04:49 PM
Bidding on Bruce's auction while watching basketball at a bar full of people while making sure none of your friends in attendance notice is no easy feat.

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A lot of you did well tonight, lucky ducks
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Post by: Undead on May 17, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 17, 2016, 06:55:53 PM
What is the difference between the one being offered this afternoon, and this one, that just sold on April 26th, for $10.00 USD and is described as a German-produced reproduction?

I cant make out any additional printer's info on any of the borders (maybe it's very small) and the dimensions are exactly identical to today's offering. If it were a legit or licensed repro (vs. some run off bootleg), wouldn't the German printer's name be on it somewhere?

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/14056856.html

The one that sold for $10 says zigzag along the bottom. The other does not.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 17, 2016, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: Undead on May 17, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
The one that sold for $10 says zigzag along the bottom. The other does not.

Thanks. That's why I was wondering if there was some smaller hard-to-see print somewhere else. Where is that wording located?
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Post by: Undead on May 17, 2016, 11:59:58 PM
The reprint version that I am aware of and that sold for $10 in the one auction mentioned is from ZigZag which has reprinted a lot of posters over many decades. In all of the posters including this one, the Star Wars birthday poster, Empire style B, Advance, etc. and many many others all have a copyright line for used with permission type stuff located somewhere at the bottom of the poster usually in the artwork itself in the case of Star Wars posters at least. I have placed arrows to highlight the one from the triple bill below.

I did do the loop thing with the three copies I have of two of the quads using the 27x40, 30x40 and proof versions and all were printed the same, same paper, etc. I see no reason to assume any of them are not original.

(http://undead.net/images/posters/zigzag_triple_bill.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 18, 2016, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: Undead on May 17, 2016, 11:59:58 PM
The reprint version that I am aware of and that sold for $10 in the one auction mentioned is from ZigZag which has reprinted a lot of posters over many decades. In all of the posters including this one, the Star Wars birthday poster, Empire style B, Advance, etc. and many many others all have a copyright line for used with permission type stuff located somewhere at the bottom of the poster usually in the artwork itself in the case of Star Wars posters at least. I have placed arrows to highlight the one from the triple bill below.

I did do the loop thing with the three copies I have of two of the quads using the 27x40, 30x40 and proof versions and all were printed the same, same paper, etc. I see no reason to assume any of them are not original.

(http://undead.net/images/posters/zigzag_triple_bill.jpg)

Thanks again Mike. And I think it would be VERY helpful if that specific info was pointed out and mentioned in the description, rather than just saying: "Note that this REPRO reproduces the image from the British quad poster."

Yes, on the supersize image, that small text can be seen, but it never hurts to mention it, in the written description, either. Especially those that might not know the ZigZag name & back information.

Also, were all ZigZag repro posters produced in Germany? (and what is the exact wording/text on the line you pointed out with the red arrows?)
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Post by: Undead on May 18, 2016, 12:55:02 AM
I think that stating that a poster is a reprint is enough for me. It would get pretty long winded with all of the different companies and different copyright usage nomenclature to put it in an auction listing when it really lends no value since it is already listed as a reprint. Just my 2 cents of course.

I do have a couple of ZZ posters, but don't remember if they all say Germany or not. I can look at what I have though when I get time to dig them out.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 18, 2016, 01:01:59 AM
Quote from: Undead on May 17, 2016, 11:59:58 PM
The reprint version that I am aware of and that sold for $10 in the one auction mentioned is from ZigZag which has reprinted a lot of posters over many decades. In all of the posters including this one, the Star Wars birthday poster, Empire style B, Advance, etc. and many many others all have a copyright line for used with permission type stuff located somewhere at the bottom of the poster usually in the artwork itself in the case of Star Wars posters at least. I have placed arrows to highlight the one from the triple bill below.

I did do the loop thing with the three copies I have of two of the quads using the 27x40, 30x40 and proof versions and all were printed the same, same paper, etc. I see no reason to assume any of them are not original.

(http://undead.net/images/posters/zigzag_triple_bill.jpg)

On this particular EMP-sold example, the colors (especially the skin tones) look more vivid or a bit over saturated, as often is done with reproduced poster (or other) images.
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Post by: paul waines on May 18, 2016, 11:45:59 AM
Interesting, thanks for posting Mike..
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Post by: erik1925 on May 21, 2016, 11:31:57 PM
An interesting price being asked, for a Portal Publication copy (20x30 inches) of The Black Cat.

$275.00 opening bid or a BIN of $500.00  :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Vintage-Reissue-1978-Of-THE-FAMOUS-THE-BLACK-CAT-KARLOFF-BELA-LUGOSI-NR-/142000894723?hash=item210fe9b303:g:b0gAAOSwhQ5XQQPz
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Post by: basemem on May 22, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
Hi

Does anyone know much as this Quad? Closed this morning on eBay for £171.88. Not seen it before, quick google search shows a couple have come up but not regular

Cheers
Simon
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Post by: paul waines on May 22, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
Yes Simon, they don't turn up too often, you got it for a very good price, wish I'd seen it, it's one I still need. Well done for getting it. Must have been on ebay.com, I haven't check that site for a while...
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Post by: basemem on May 22, 2016, 12:25:17 PM
Unfortunately it wasn't me that brought it, wish it was.

Completely forgot about until this morning when I got up. Finished at 6.30am, fast asleep at the time.

I contacted the seller to ask for some pics but he didn't reply
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Post by: paul waines on May 22, 2016, 12:28:24 PM
Shame, was it on .com or uk?
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Post by: paul waines on May 22, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
It's OK I found it, and think I know who bought it...

I'm surprised his Octopussy 4sht never sold at £70...
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Post by: basemem on May 22, 2016, 12:56:21 PM
I was surprised. He sold a blade runner quad went for £70 only bid as well.

Who brought it?
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Post by: Undead on May 22, 2016, 01:23:04 PM
That is a heck of a deal on the Revenge quad, I would have gone after it if I had seen it as well. It is one of four or five quads I need at this point.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 22, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
Thats a Nice looking quad. Clean and simple.

And it sounds pretty rare?
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
IN case anyone was looking for a 1974RR French 1P for The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. And being offered with a BIN of $1400.00 by none other than tloce:   :-X

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOOD-BAD-UGLY-FRENCH-47X63-MOVIE-POSTER-R74-EASTWOOD-/320135855264?hash=item4a89957ca0:m:mS-yySGmSDJ_zhFI6AcokuA

I wonder if he found someone to spit out posters of this size, now, too?  ;D

And the brown, shag carpet back dop wasn't used for this either.
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Post by: Undead on May 30, 2016, 07:03:25 PM
It says sold for $1400! Does that mean my original release is worth $7k?

Good, Bad, Ugly French 1P RR (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=320135855264&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: Undead on May 30, 2016, 07:03:25 PM
It says sold for $1400! Does that mean my original release is worth $7k?

Good, Bad, Ugly French 1P RR (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=320135855264&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

And sold by tloce, no less.  :P

You gotta love how he says this, too:

A French poster -- yet -- "THIS IS AN ORIGINAL THEATRICAL MOVIE POSTER PRINTED BY NATIONAL SCREEN SERVICE."
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Post by: jedgerley on May 30, 2016, 07:28:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 30, 2016, 07:04:24 PM
And sold by tloce, no less.  :P

You gotta love how he says this, too:

A French poster -- yet -- "THIS IS AN ORIGINAL THEATRICAL MOVIE POSTER PRINTED BY NATIONAL SCREEN SERVICE."

Lol. He is very slowly taking that out of his auctions the past few years. It's really funny when it's in a current release movie poster he is selling too. So many listings it must be a major chore.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2016, 07:35:13 PM
Im sure its that he just cuts and pastes everything, in huge numbers, updating and changing the images and titles only.

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Post by: Mirosae on June 01, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
OMG...OMG....OMG dammit...just when I thought there was nothing else for me.....

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tumblr_inline_n4vbbs0Rcq1sboo6w_zpsmhbvhlgd.gif)

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Post by: jedgerley on June 01, 2016, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: Undead on December 24, 2014, 12:06:57 AM
Starting to wonder how far down this is going to drop before it is sold. They started listing it at over $1500. Starting bid down to $997.99. They also listed it at various prices in nine different auctions. Interesting way to market I guess.

51R Dracula Half Sheet (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574860769&toolid=10001&campid=5337388159&customid=&icep_item=121526182423&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg)

Here it is again Mike
Opening bid £1,000
Estimate: £2,000 - £2,500

http://www.invaluable.co.uk/auction-lot/1931-dracula-us-half-sheet-1-reelart-re-rel-109-c-8924aab8de
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Post by: 110x75 on June 02, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: Mirosae on June 01, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
OMG...OMG....OMG dammit...just when I thought there was nothing else for me.....

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tumblr_inline_n4vbbs0Rcq1sboo6w_zpsmhbvhlgd.gif)

Good luck on whatever you are after, girl
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Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2016, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: jedgerley on June 01, 2016, 06:02:02 PM
Here it is again Mike
Opening bid £1,000
Estimate: £2,000 - £2,500

http://www.invaluable.co.uk/auction-lot/1931-dracula-us-half-sheet-1-reelart-re-rel-109-c-8924aab8de

And it was passed on with that starting bid number.

I wonder what it might be offered at, the next time.  dontknow.gif
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Post by: basemem on June 27, 2016, 10:39:53 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262488091884

Goldfinger Quad. Currently at £2,099.07 with 5 hours or so to go. Would love too but the misses would divorce me and then probably kill me.
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Post by: Simes on June 27, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
It should go for a relative song as there has been extensive painting going on.  "...most of the black background has been repainted" for eg.

Reminds me of the Dr No quad I bought that had similar work done, and as soon as it was rolled for shipping, the paint cracked.

Never again.

Hope everyone ends up happy.
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Post by: Simes on June 27, 2016, 04:02:25 PM
Got to £2.5k with four hours to go and, perhaps unsurprisingly, stayed at exactly that with no last minute bidding for it at all.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 27, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
Simon, is this style quad uber-rare?

I checked and EMP has never sold one and HA has sold just one copy, last November, for $10,157.50 (inc the BP). 

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/goldfinger-united-artists-1964-british-quad-30-x-40-style-b/a/7113-86347.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2016, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 27, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
Simon, is this style quad uber-rare?

I checked and EMP has never sold one and HA has sold just one copy, last November, for $10,157.50 (inc the BP). 

http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/goldfinger-united-artists-1964-british-quad-30-x-40-style-b/a/7113-86347.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

great poster with a different image
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Post by: erik1925 on June 27, 2016, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 27, 2016, 04:26:46 PM
great poster with a different image

Were less of them produced?
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Post by: Simes on June 27, 2016, 05:24:34 PM
Yes, this was the UK quad produced for just the Irish market, The Irish who thought a semi clad / nearly naked Shirley Eaton was too racy - even if Sean was in front of her and nothing was obviously visible.

So instead, the Hand Quad was produced.

I got mine from Ewbanks only last year.  It was around the £4.5k mark, which I think is about right.  Unbacked, and in very good condition, albeit the folds on the thicker paper stock produces more prominent white lines on the matt presentation than normal.  More like the effect on the gloss US 1 Sheets when machine rolled and the gloss cracks a little.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 27, 2016, 07:40:29 PM
Simon, Any guesstimate on how many of that quad might have been printed?
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Post by: basemem on June 28, 2016, 02:13:29 AM
Wouldn't be able to hesitate a guess on how many are out there but looking at how often it is sold they are rare. Might be the rarest of the bond quads, Paul will probably.

Was surprised there was no last minute bidding but it did look like it had quite a bit of restoration work completed.
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Post by: Simes on June 28, 2016, 07:20:19 AM
Quote from: basemem on June 28, 2016, 02:13:29 AM
Wouldn't be able to hesitate a guess on how many are out there but looking at how often it is sold they are rare. Might be the rarest of the bond quads, Paul will probably.

Was surprised there was no last minute bidding but it did look like it had quite a bit of restoration work completed.

Double negative there.  You're suggesting you have the immediate answer...

Anyway, sorry Jeff.  No idea on print runs.
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Post by: paul waines on June 28, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
Tis a scarce one, though I've seen less of the Thunderball one, which does bring more money.. Mostly due to them being cut up.

As for print run, it's anybody's guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 500...
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 30, 2016, 07:34:42 PM
what the...?
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4284862

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160623/550/war_someone_talked_KM01023_T.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 30, 2016, 07:58:23 PM
It's pretty cool.  I don't know, these are completely foreign to me.  Seems high, but I don't collect them, so who knows.

T
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Post by: ladeda on June 30, 2016, 08:03:56 PM
I have no reference for prices, but it is a cool poster.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 30, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 30, 2016, 07:58:23 PM
It's pretty cool.  I don't know, these are completely foreign to me.  Seems high, but I don't collect them, so who knows.

T
Yeah god save us all if YOU start collecting war posters!
 ;D
It is a cool poster.  Someone is about to pay way too much for it though.  It was actually in a movie I recently saw...can't remember which one dammit, it'll come back to me. Was it Edge of Tomorrow? (Cruise and E Blunt)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 30, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on June 30, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Yeah god save us all if YOU start collecting war posters!
 ;D

Don't worry, no chance of that.  I enjoy looking at it, but I'm a pacifist.   gun2

T
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Post by: Louie D. on June 30, 2016, 10:53:52 PM
It is one of the most well remembered US propaganda posters for WWII.
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Post by: Simes on July 02, 2016, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: Simes on June 27, 2016, 04:02:25 PM
Got to £2.5k with four hours to go and, perhaps unsurprisingly, stayed at exactly that with no last minute bidding for it at all.

Goldfinger Hand Quad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Goldfinger-UK-quad-40-x30-/262508112998?fromMakeTrack=true

And now it is back, on the .com site, for $10,000....!?
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Post by: erik1925 on July 17, 2016, 11:56:02 PM
Quote from: Simes on July 02, 2016, 06:51:18 PM
Goldfinger Hand Quad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Goldfinger-UK-quad-40-x30-/262508112998?fromMakeTrack=true

And now it is back, on the .com site, for $10,000....!?

And it looks like it currently has 7 watchers, too.

I see it also has a B/O. I wonder if anything has been offered (and turned down) at this point.
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Post by: Simes on July 18, 2016, 02:31:00 AM
Am sure the seven watchers are there for morbid curiosity.  I am one of them.

I asked the seller if it was the same quad, and how come it was suspiciously unsold.  He said the buyer asked the seller to consign and flip for a BIN.  It is a confident chap that sells something at market price and attempts a sale at four times the price.
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Post by: ladeda on July 30, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Good luck to all bidding on HA's sig auction! May your wallets not take a beating.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 04, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
do all lenticulars need to be shipped flat?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4323115
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Post by: Damomac on August 05, 2016, 02:30:11 AM
no but you risk damage by sending them rolled - best practice to send flat i think EMP will send rolled if requested but if it comes damaged its on you
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 05, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
The Avatar cannot be shipped rolled. It depends on the thickness of the plastic. Most of the more recent ones they are making need to be shipped flat.
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Post by: hepcatpunk on August 11, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Huh?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4330556 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4330556)

Great movie, but so far beyond what EMP has ever sold one of these for in past.
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Post by: jayn_j on August 11, 2016, 05:06:25 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on August 11, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Huh?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4330556 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4330556)

Great movie, but so far beyond what EMP has ever sold one of these for in past.

Bruce lists it as "very good", but I can't spot a flaw on the super-sized image.  The only thing I saw was that is "studio style" instead of NSS.  However, that is the most likely way to get a rolled one in this time period.  Still, it has usually been a $30-50 poster.
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Post by: jedgerley on August 11, 2016, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 04, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
do all lenticulars need to be shipped flat?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4323115

Bummer I missed a post about lenticulars lol!
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 11, 2016, 06:06:55 PM
its nice that Camerom Crowe and John Cusack are EMP customers which is the only possible explanation for this blip
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Post by: eatbrie on August 11, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
I have another explanation for you...   potroll.gif

I bought mine, mint and rolled, for $20 two years ago.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on August 11, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 11, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
I have another explanation for you...   potroll.gif

I bought mine, mint and rolled, for $20 two years ago.

T

Dont forget to add in a few shots!  verydrunk.gif

 ;)
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Post by: ddilts399 on August 12, 2016, 12:22:04 PM
Posterchild has a history of PosterPriceRunUp another bidder that doesnt seem to ever get outbid.
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Post by: erik1925 on August 15, 2016, 01:03:44 AM
Technically, a BIN, but this WC for Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) is the bomb, imho.

And only $49,995.95  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/152176485994?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/t24AAOSwdzVXkYpi/s-l1600.jpg)

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Post by: crowzilla on August 15, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 15, 2016, 01:03:44 AM
Technically, a BIN, but this WC for Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932) is the bomb, imho.

And only $49,995.95  faint2.gif


And at nearly the same price of the recently auctioned Son of Frankenstein 1-sheet (or 7x Heritage's previous result for a Murders WC), it seems Todd is lowering his multiples of FMV.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 19, 2016, 08:38:31 AM
Lots of cool special posters...any jewish fellas around?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4342955

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160818/550/special_unknown_poster_a_SD06697_T.jpg)
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 19, 2016, 11:31:13 PM
this is the best poster i have seen this year.  I envy (hate) whoever can afford to buy it.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160814/550/russian_snow_white_and_the_seven_dwarfs_linen_SD05992_T.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on August 20, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
Quote from: Simes on July 02, 2016, 06:51:18 PM
Goldfinger Hand Quad.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Bond-Goldfinger-UK-quad-40-x30-/262508112998?fromMakeTrack=true

And now it is back, on the .com site, for $10,000....!?

It is a sad thing when I end up Quoting myself, but it appears the extensively restored Hand Quad is now up at Ewbanks next month.  This spent some time on ebay hovering around $2500, and was then popped up for a BIN of $10k!  Which showed confidence, or something anyway...

https://www.ewbankauctions.co.uk/20160907M2-lot-2047-James-Bond-Goldfinger-1964-British-Quad-film-poster-Style-B-artwork-by-Robert-Brownjohn-starring-Sean-Connery-directed-by-Guy-Hamilton-Eon-/-United-Artists-linen-backed-30-x-40-inc?arr=0&auction_id=284&box_filter=0&category=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=&lots_per_page=0&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=29&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=&view=lot_detail&year=
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Post by: basemem on August 20, 2016, 04:57:07 PM
They estimate £2-£4K. Have you asked for a condition report and extra photos?
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Post by: Simes on August 21, 2016, 04:40:50 AM
No - but only because a) I already have this poster and b) I had asked the ebay seller to whom it had been consigned out of interest, what had happened to this poster when it was on ebay.

Most of the entire poster surface area had been repainted except for small portions of the art.  The rest had been rejuvenated...
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Post by: Crazy Vick on August 25, 2016, 08:47:58 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on August 19, 2016, 08:38:31 AM
Lots of cool special posters...any jewish fellas around?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4342955

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160818/550/special_unknown_poster_a_SD06697_T.jpg)

So no one knows what this poster is about?
Description: Poster has little or no writing on it, and we do not know what this is for. If anyone can identify what this poster is for, please e-mail us and we will post it here.
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Post by: Simes on August 25, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
Nothing popped up in Google Image Search...
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Post by: jedgerley on August 25, 2016, 10:40:13 AM
The image probably is related with the battle of Jericho? My original guess was a music festival but I think its just a generic poster like the other biblical themed works he has created....I am still hopeful its a marijuana festival with some big nugs.  eyeroll
I found the printhouse and the artist is Harry Araten

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/yaronimus/4781323177/in/set-72157624342712859/

According to the Book of Joshua, the Battle of Jericho was the first battle of the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan. According to Joshua 6:1-27, the walls of Jericho fell after Joshua's Israelite army marched around the city blowing their trumpets. Excavations at Tell es-Sultan, the biblical Jericho, have failed to produce data to substantiate the biblical story,[2] and scholars are virtually unanimous that the Book of Joshua holds little of historical value.[3]
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on August 26, 2016, 03:54:32 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GET-CARTER-1970-Michael-Caine-ARNALDO-PUTZU-Mike-Hodges-ORIGINAL-QUAD-ARTWORK-/122100680797?hash=item1c6dc4885d:g:6IEAAOSwgZ1Xtt2U (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GET-CARTER-1970-Michael-Caine-ARNALDO-PUTZU-Mike-Hodges-ORIGINAL-QUAD-ARTWORK-/122100680797?hash=item1c6dc4885d:g:6IEAAOSwgZ1Xtt2U)

£25,000? Anyone, Bueller, Anyone....?

A great poster and a certain unicorn...
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Post by: brude on August 26, 2016, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: jedgerley on August 25, 2016, 10:40:13 AM
The image probably is related with the battle of Jericho? My original guess was a music festival but I think its just a generic poster like the other biblical themed works he has created....I am still hopeful its a marijuana festival with some big nugs.  eyeroll
I found the printhouse and the artist is Harry Araten

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/yaronimus/4781323177/in/set-72157624342712859/

According to the Book of Joshua, the Battle of Jericho was the first battle of the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan. According to Joshua 6:1-27, the walls of Jericho fell after Joshua's Israelite army marched around the city blowing their trumpets. Excavations at Tell es-Sultan, the biblical Jericho, have failed to produce data to substantiate the biblical story,[2] and scholars are virtually unanimous that the Book of Joshua holds little of historical value.[3]

Great research, Jason.
 clap clap clap
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on August 30, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on August 26, 2016, 03:54:32 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GET-CARTER-1970-Michael-Caine-ARNALDO-PUTZU-Mike-Hodges-ORIGINAL-QUAD-ARTWORK-/122100680797?hash=item1c6dc4885d:g:6IEAAOSwgZ1Xtt2U (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GET-CARTER-1970-Michael-Caine-ARNALDO-PUTZU-Mike-Hodges-ORIGINAL-QUAD-ARTWORK-/122100680797?hash=item1c6dc4885d:g:6IEAAOSwgZ1Xtt2U)

£25,000? Anyone, Bueller, Anyone....?

A great poster and a certain unicorn...
Is anyone interested in the Get Carter Quad original artwork, worth a look , even if the price is a bit steep!
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Post by: originalcinemaposters on August 31, 2016, 03:03:54 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311681917642?_trksid=p2045573.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI311681917642.N36.S1.R1.TR7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311681917642?_trksid=p2045573.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI311681917642.N36.S1.R1.TR7)
47 bids so far on a jaws one sheet, and now the consigner admits its not 27 x 41, but rather 27 x40
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Post by: mahmudf on August 31, 2016, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on August 30, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Is anyone interested in the Get Carter Quad original artwork, worth a look , even if the price is a bit steep!

I had that quad on the wall in my hallway, it's a great poster
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Post by: Tob on August 31, 2016, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: originalcinemaposters on August 31, 2016, 03:03:54 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311681917642?_trksid=p2045573.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI311681917642.N36.S1.R1.TR7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311681917642?_trksid=p2045573.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI311681917642.N36.S1.R1.TR7)
47 bids so far on a jaws one sheet, and now the consigner admits its not 27 x 41, but rather 27 x40

Oops! Had a lot of watchers, I was curious as to what it might go for.
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Post by: basemem on September 01, 2016, 04:26:55 AM
119 watchers on the Jaws poster and the bid has increased since the updated info
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Post by: brude on September 01, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
Its really unfortunate that people would bid this high on a repro without doing their homework first.
Sure hope Chop Top's not in the lead.

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Post by: brude on September 01, 2016, 01:53:40 PM
I wrote to the seller.
With less than an hour to go, someone is throwing a lot of money into the garbage.
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Post by: basemem on September 01, 2016, 06:43:00 PM
£411 finished. Absolutely crazy. Don't know who a***e (695) is but considering the amount of feedback and if they only buy posters should know better considering they bid at the end.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on September 02, 2016, 07:10:20 AM
So this has just popped up on Emovie. I used to own this but got a much better copy so sold it.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4360225 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4360225)

It'll be interesting to see how much the gent makes or loses on this.
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Post by: Simes on September 02, 2016, 07:44:01 AM
Didn't know there were such things as English half sheets...?!
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Post by: BruceH on September 02, 2016, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: Simes on September 02, 2016, 07:44:01 AM
Didn't know there were such things as English half sheets...?!

Here you go:
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/English%2520half%2520sheet/archive.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/English%2520half%2520sheet/archive.html)
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Post by: Simes on September 02, 2016, 09:14:04 AM
As if by magic.  Thanks fella.

Mostly 50s, some 40s, latest being '62 - interesting.

Guess as they weren't produced for the Binds, I was never introduced to them.

Cheers.
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Post by: Simes on September 02, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
That said, having just looked at the Campaign Books for Dr No, From Russia and Goldfinger, mention is made of Lobby cards that measure 22x28inches for the latter two films.

I have personally never seen examples of these.  The art is as per the quads.

So, did the UK call 'English Half Sheets' as Lobby Cards?
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on September 02, 2016, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: BruceH on September 02, 2016, 08:21:17 AM
Here you go:
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/English%2520half%2520sheet/archive.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/search/English%2520half%2520sheet/archive.html)

Some lovely half sheets there Bruce.
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Post by: Harry Caul on September 02, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
Quote from: Simes on September 02, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
That said, having just looked at the Campaign Books for Dr No, From Russia and Goldfinger, mention is made of Lobby cards that measure 22x28inches for the latter two films.

I have personally never seen examples of these.  The art is as per the quads.

So, did the UK call 'English Half Sheets' as Lobby Cards?

If you sort Bruce's results by year the most recent examples of english 1/2 sheets were from 1962.  Total speculation -- maybe they killed the format after the FRWL and GF campaign books were printed, but before the posters were? 
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Post by: Simes on September 03, 2016, 05:26:43 AM
Yeah, I did exactly that and saw the '62 poster.  And that was what made me have a look at the Campaign books for the first three Bonds where I saw the 22x28 'Lobbies'.

So, it seems something was produced for Russia and Goldfinger, even if I have never knowingly seen them.

And it might just be a naming convention thing.  The way the UK call them Front of House stills, and the US call them Color Still Sets.

Does anyone have UK Campaign books from the film's of the 50's?  If so, the naming convention thrust could be corroborated.
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Post by: Ari on September 03, 2016, 09:03:39 PM
isn't "half sheet" a term we use, but not the actual name? (as in look at even US pressbooks) they call them 22x28's, and sometimes 22x28 Lobby card.
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Post by: Simes on September 04, 2016, 03:32:53 AM
Ah, cheers Ari.

Didn't think to look in my US Pressbooks....

Wonder where the term Half Sheets originated from then?
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Post by: Simes on September 07, 2016, 11:02:08 AM
Quote from: Simes on August 20, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
It is a sad thing when I end up Quoting myself, but it appears the extensively restored Hand Quad is now up at Ewbanks next month.  This spent some time on ebay hovering around $2500, and was then popped up for a BIN of $10k!  Which showed confidence, or something anyway...

https://www.ewbankauctions.co.uk/20160907M2-lot-2047-James-Bond-Goldfinger-1964-British-Quad-film-poster-Style-B-artwork-by-Robert-Brownjohn-starring-Sean-Connery-directed-by-Guy-Hamilton-Eon-/-United-Artists-linen-backed-30-x-40-inc?arr=0&auction_id=284&box_filter=0&category=&department_id=&exclude_keyword=&export_issue=0&high_estimate=0&image_filter=0&keyword=&list_type=&lots_per_page=0&low_estimate=0&month=&page_no=29&paper_filter=0&search_type=&sort_by=&view=lot_detail&year=

This should probably go in the Post Auction thread, but since the trail exists on the Mid thread...

This massively restored and painted Goldfinger Hand quad ended up in going for £2300 hammer price at Ewbanks just now.

£2760 final price with presumably only £1840 going to the seller.

The seller had tried putting it out for a quick flip through Simon Dwyer at $10,000 but unsurprisingly, no one bit.

Reminds me of the bath I took with an equally heavily restored Dr No quad that had been just as heavily, and badly, restored.
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Post by: basemem on September 07, 2016, 12:05:57 PM
Did you pick anything up? Got outbid on a couple of things and missed the boat on something I was watching for as got distracted. Gutted.
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Post by: Simes on September 07, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
Nope, nothing at all this time around.

I seem to be very near the end of what I want a collection to be, so without expanding the universe (into Inserts or some other), my updates will be few and far between.

I am here for everyone else's stories.
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Post by: skyjackers on September 07, 2016, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: Simes on September 07, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
I seem to be very near the end of what I want a collection to be

So how does that feel? I'm guessing the wallet is happy.
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Post by: Simes on September 07, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
A bit frustrating really.

I like the searching, but the fact is, the last few bits will probably take up 90% of the effort.  And much searching now elicits zero results.

As you may see, I have two Wants threads that I update fairly regularly, and not very much has changed in many years...  Onwards.
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Post by: basemem on September 07, 2016, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: Simes on September 07, 2016, 01:49:03 PM
I seem to be very near the end of what I want a collection to be, so without expanding the universe (into Inserts or some other), my updates will be few and far between.

I don't think I will ever get there. I started with I will just collect Bond and Star Wars only. That then changed into I will add a couple of 70/80s movies that I love. Which turned into I like this new film and the posters cool I will get that as well. Now I have a collection although not massive in size but is so far removed from what I originally started at I don't know where it will stop.
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Post by: Simes on September 07, 2016, 06:02:33 PM
This was what I was afraid of, so I ring fenced the collection so it wouldn't spiral.

I have often thought about Hitchcock and maybe Clint but I just couldn't collect in the same way as I do for Bond as the interest is just not as great.  It would be collecting for the sake of collecting.  That said, the inserts, the DCs, and half sheets are beckoning, but I am resisting.
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Post by: basemem on September 23, 2016, 06:34:04 PM
Guess what's back on the bay. The (heavily restored) Goldfinger quad, this quad had a bit of a journey started out on eBay then sold at recent Ewbanks auction for just over £2k now back on the bay for £5,750. Got 3 watchers as well.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDFINGER-1964-original-British-quad-movie-poster-rare-type-B-JAMES-BOND-/112146495120
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Post by: Simes on September 24, 2016, 05:51:06 AM
Ha ha.

It is having a journey...
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
I hate the fact that Emovie destroyed some great looking sets, I'm guessing in an attempt to make more money.  Why would you separate a set like Laura?  That set should stay together.  It's hard enough to put a set together, but you finally do, it's sad to see it go different places, as I'm sure this set and others will.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on October 05, 2016, 12:42:31 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
I hate the fact that Emovie destroyed some great looking sets, I'm guessing in an attempt to make more money.  Why would you separate a set like Laura?  That set should stay together.  It's hard enough to put a set together, but you finally do, it's sad to see it go different places, as I'm sure this set and others will.

T

T, it's likely all about the almighty $$, don't you think?

What would a complete Laura set go for these days? (And is more money likely to be made when selling the cards off singularly like this?)
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:59:39 AM
I don't know.  I think I bought mine for $1,200, but it's in mint condition.  This one is not.  We shall see.

T
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Post by: Simes on October 05, 2016, 04:45:34 AM
$s and business endeavours aside, and following another thread that I contributed to that looks at lobby sets that are sold split or complete, what are the chances that in this day and age, someone who is looking to collect an entire set of Laura cards, does not already have a few in their possession?

Even if a set were sold complete, and if we agree with the above, all that would happen is that someone would shell out big bucks for the set for the remaining cards he needs, and Then have to sell the rest off.

The result would be the same.

But I agree that the emotion and beauty and allure of an entire set is now lost.
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Post by: jayn_j on October 05, 2016, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
I hate the fact that Emovie destroyed some great looking sets, I'm guessing in an attempt to make more money.  Why would you separate a set like Laura?  That set should stay together.  It's hard enough to put a set together, but you finally do, it's sad to see it go different places, as I'm sure this set and others will.

T

Need to be fair to Bruce.  He clearly has stated that this is the seller's call and he is only the agent.
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Post by: skyjackers on October 05, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
I love that some people may be more shocked by a Male nipple, rather than the fact that the body has a huge grisly cut through it! Made me laugh.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4395637
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Post by: Simes on October 05, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: skyjackers on October 05, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
I love that some people may be more shocked by a Male nipple, ......

Really, all my beach shots have me covering my nipular area.

Sometimes, I even go to the beach wearing daisies in case anyone else is photographing me.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 05, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: skyjackers on October 05, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
I love that some people may be more shocked by a Male nipple, rather than the fact that the body has a huge grisly cut through it! Made me laugh.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4395637

There are some that would be offended seeing a bare chested dude on a poster? What is the world coming to?  faint2.gif ;D

I've never noticed if posters that had shirtless guys on them were also "white boxed" over on EMP's auctions. Has this always been the standard, as it is for images of the lovely, nude female form?
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
Quote from: Simes on October 05, 2016, 04:45:34 AM
$s and business endeavours aside, and following another thread that I contributed to that looks at lobby sets that are sold split or complete, what are the chances that in this day and age, someone who is looking to collect an entire set of Laura cards, does not already have a few in their possession?

Even if a set were sold complete, and if we agree with the above, all that would happen is that someone would shell out big bucks for the set for the remaining cards he needs, and Then have to sell the rest off.

The result would be the same.

But I agree that the emotion and beauty and allure of an entire set is now lost.

Not necessarily.  I, for instance, only buy full sets, which is why I bought the Laura set in the first place.  It's hard enough to keep track of posters, I don't have time to run after loose lobby cards.  So to me, it's a travesty.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on October 05, 2016, 08:20:41 AM
Need to be fair to Bruce.  He clearly has stated that this is the seller's call and he is only the agent.

Where did you read that?

T
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Post by: skyjackers on October 05, 2016, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: Simes on October 05, 2016, 10:43:56 AM
Really, all my beach shots have me covering my nipular area.

Sometimes, I even go to the beach wearing daisies in case anyone else is photographing me.

If a daisy does it you must be either very young or very small. Glad I wasn't drinking when I read your comment though :D
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Post by: jayn_j on October 05, 2016, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Where did you read that?

T

Actually here, when Bruce was still participating.  It was part of the bulk lots vs individual items discussion, but I'm not going to go to the trouble of finding it.  Bruce stated that the seller always had the option of selling combined, individually or letting emovieposter decide.
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Post by: 50s on October 05, 2016, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 05, 2016, 11:55:30 AM
I've never noticed if posters that had shirtless guys on them were also "white boxed" over on EMP's auctions. Has this always been the standard, as it is for images of the lovely, nude female form?

Not sure but man butt cracks have been censored for years. Pure filth they are

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Post by: erik1925 on October 05, 2016, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 05, 2016, 04:06:15 PM
Not sure but man butt cracks have been censored for years. Pure filth they are

Steve, you crack me up (i know, i know... SOOOO bad & corny but I couldn't resist).   whistle.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on October 05, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
As only Todd Feiertag can offer. Ive never seen this double bill US half sheet poster image before. Wow!  faint2.gif

And it will only cost the lucky new owner $15,000.00 (BIN)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOUSE-OF-FRANKENSTEIN-THE-MUMMYS-CURSE-1945-KARLOFF-CHANEY-22x28-COMBO-/381798320373?hash=item58e4f408f5:g:stgAAOSwoi1X8vF3

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/stgAAOSwoi1X8vF3/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: BruceH on October 05, 2016, 06:50:41 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on October 05, 2016, 02:13:23 PM
Actually here, when Bruce was still participating.  It was part of the bulk lots vs individual items discussion, but I'm not going to go to the trouble of finding it.  Bruce stated that the seller always had the option of selling combined, individually or letting emovieposter decide.

I still participate, on occasion. When I am asked a question, I usually reply. I have not seen an actual question in a long time.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 06:52:30 PM
Why did you break the Laura set, BRUCE HERSHENSON?  Is that a question?

T
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Post by: Simes on October 05, 2016, 06:55:30 PM
Be nice now...
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Post by: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
To Bruce, never.

I have to suffer his political rant on FB.

T
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Post by: paul waines on October 05, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
I'm with T all the way on this, I hate to see sets broke up. I'm in the middle of finding odds I've bought along the way, and it's not quite the thing. >:(
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Post by: Simes on October 05, 2016, 07:05:23 PM
Ok, I am not an FB convert so can't comment on comments, political or otherwise.  (...aN FB convert / a FB convert... you decide)

That said, we are where we are right now and splitting sets up for sale by those who have collected disparate cards to Make their set is quite surely, the norm, in this day and age.

Emotionally, it does rent a hole in the heart.  But, we're all big boys now and we can find a way through.  Right?
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Post by: BruceH on October 05, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 06:52:30 PM
Why did you break the Laura set, BRUCE HERSHENSON?  Is that a question?

T

There are a limited number of "deep pocket" collectors who much prefer complete sets. But auctioning all 8 cards individually does not stop those collectors from going after all of them, it just means they much place 8 bids instead of one. If that is too much trouble for them, I understand.

You might say, "What if I get 7 cards and some nut (or "shill") outbids me on the 8th?" If that happened, in the case of Laura, you surely could find the 8th card elsewhere later.

On the other hand, there are lots of non-deep pocket collectors who would love a single Laura card for their collection, even one of the lesser ones, and this way those guys get a chance to get one of them (and with 8 auctions, they have a really good chance).

But if you only will bid on complete sets, that is fine for you to do. We will have hundreds of complete sets next week, and I hope you look them over carefully!
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Post by: BruceH on October 05, 2016, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
To Bruce, never.

I have to suffer his political rant on FB.

T

 Doh.gif
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Post by: Simes on October 05, 2016, 07:27:26 PM
Don't get sucked in fella...
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Post by: BruceH on October 05, 2016, 07:30:12 PM
Quote from: Simes on October 05, 2016, 07:27:26 PM
Don't get sucked in fella...

No worries!
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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 05, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 05, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
To Bruce, never.

I have to suffer his political rant on FB.

T

Bruce politically rants?  Huh.  I wouldn't have thought that as he is very diplomatic in these parts.
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Post by: 50s on October 05, 2016, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on October 05, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
Bruce politically rants?  Huh.  I wouldn't have thought that as he is very diplomatic in these parts.


I haven't read them. Does Bruce support Trump or Clinton?


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Post by: BruceH on October 05, 2016, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: 50s on October 05, 2016, 09:27:25 PM

I haven't read them. Does Bruce support Trump or Clinton?

Bruce thinks both candidates are far and away the worst two candidates ever to run on a Major party, and that either would be easily beaten by any credible candidate.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 06, 2016, 01:19:19 AM
Another BIN, so not really a mid-auction item, but this US OS of Hitchcock's The 39 Steps, is really pretty spectacular, on both artistic and historic cinematic levels.

And with a handsome, BIN price tag of $26,250.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/d4QAAOSwiwVWTooc/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381701934640?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Post by: DekeThornton on October 06, 2016, 03:25:06 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 06, 2016, 01:19:19 AM
Another BIN, so not really a mid-auction item, but this US OS of Hitchcock's The 39 Steps, is really pretty spectacular, on both artistic and historic cinematic levels.

And with a handsome, BIN price tag of $26,250.00

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/d4QAAOSwiwVWTooc/s-l1600.jpg)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381701934640?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Always loved that poster. I also love this from the eBay listing: "You save: $11,250.00 (30% off)"

That's it, I'm buying it! Who can resist savings like that?
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Post by: Simes on October 06, 2016, 08:46:25 AM
Another 'right on' example of sales blurb is when they start mentioning the fact that this is An Investment.

'I am selling to you this Dr No 1 Sheet at $45,999.  And you should consider this an investment to realise solid returns over and above the volatility of shares.'

As above, That's it, I'm buying it.  Who can resist investments like that?
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Post by: erik1925 on October 07, 2016, 01:09:46 AM
Quote from: DekeThornton on October 06, 2016, 03:25:06 AM
Always loved that poster. I also love this from the eBay listing: "You save: $11,250.00 (30% off)"

That's it, I'm buying it! Who can resist savings like that?

You and me both, Deke. Nothing like saving over $11K on a poster buy, via ebay.

But it really is a beautiful OS. No doubt about that.  bed1
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Post by: erik1925 on October 11, 2016, 11:21:44 PM
$1151.00 and counting, for this OS for LA Confidential, which has fading going on throughout, aside from an inch or so around the the edges. I wonder where it might top off, by Thurs?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4398297

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161006/550/la_confidential_black_cloak_style_intl_KM01719_T.jpg)

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Post by: Neo on October 12, 2016, 01:16:32 AM
Considering the amount of fading, the current price is pretty darn high, imo.  However, one could consider it a good deal, relative to the recent sales of copies in better condition.
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Post by: erik1925 on October 12, 2016, 01:22:17 AM
True, Brandon, even tho there is no real way to correct a faded poster, unless one opts for the "retouched with paint/tints" look from a restorer. (And can a faded, glossy poster be made to look like it was originally?)

It will be one to watch and see how it finishes.
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Post by: Neo on October 12, 2016, 02:05:23 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 12, 2016, 01:22:17 AM
True, Brandon, even tho there is no real way to correct a faded poster, unless one opts for the "retouched with paint/tints" look from a restorer. (And can a faded, glossy poster be made to look like it was originally?)

It will be one to watch and see how it finishes.

I don't think there is any way that can be repaired. About the closest thing would probably be recreating it into sometime like the infamous ET spacecraft restoration masterpiece.
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Post by: Ari on October 12, 2016, 05:57:21 AM
Quote from: Neo on October 12, 2016, 02:05:23 AM
I don't think there is any way that can be repaired. About the closest thing would probably be recreating it into sometime like the infamous ET spacecraft restoration masterpiece.

the best
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Post by: 110x75 on October 12, 2016, 10:38:17 AM
The only good ET poster
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Post by: erik1925 on October 24, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
Will be interesting to see where this ends up, considering its slight fade issue. It's currently at $3500.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4413157

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161018/550/lc_king_kong_tc_a_TB01706_T.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on October 25, 2016, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 24, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
Will be interesting to see where this ends up, considering its slight fade issue. It's currently at $3500.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4413157

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161018/550/lc_king_kong_tc_a_TB01706_T.jpg)

It is on pace to beat what I paid for it when I purchased it from Heritage back in 2006, which is always good, but that was also he best deal I've ever seen on a Kong TC because of all the condition issues.
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Post by: brude on October 25, 2016, 04:21:51 PM
Is that the same actual card that you owned?
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Post by: crowzilla on October 25, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: brude on October 25, 2016, 04:21:51 PM
Is that the same actual card that you owned?

Yes, definitely the same card - sold it when I upgraded a couple of years later.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/king-kong-rko-1933-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-king-kong-is-a-landmark-1933-hollywood-horror-adventure-film-in-black/a/640-28453.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/king-kong-rko-1933-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-king-kong-is-a-landmark-1933-hollywood-horror-adventure-film-in-black/a/640-28453.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515)

And before the question is asked, I don't remember it being as faded as the current photo shows it (also don't remember it being quite as bright as the HA photo, either).
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Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
And the two 2" tears that were on the left side, as described in the HA description look like they were well repaired, too.  thumbup

("This card has had restoration work which includes the reconstruction of the two top corners and repair of two 2" tears from the left border into the art. There were pin holes in the border and several within the image. There were areas of surface damage that were repaired, particularly within the three characters in the lower left corner. The card has been backed with the thin Japanese Miso paper.")
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Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2016, 07:13:46 PM
Even laminated and this Mummy '51RR LC is at $442.00 with about an hour to go. And being from the Forry Ackerman collection is an added perk, too!

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4413173

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161018/550/lc_mummy_R51_4_a_BM08855_T.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 25, 2016, 01:50:11 PM
It is on pace to beat what I paid for it when I purchased it from Heritage back in 2006, which is always good, but that was also he best deal I've ever seen on a Kong TC because of all the condition issues.

It wound up at $4300.00 this evening.
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Post by: crowzilla on October 25, 2016, 11:21:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 25, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
It wound up at $4300.00 this evening.

+$117.50
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Post by: erik1925 on October 28, 2016, 07:51:10 PM
Another that could bring even more major coin! Ending Sunday and currently at $4100.00 - this LC from Metropolis   notworthy.gif

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4416114

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161023/550/german_lc_metropolis_12_a_LF01186_L.jpg)
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Post by: BruceH on October 28, 2016, 11:02:05 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 28, 2016, 07:51:10 PM
Another that could bring even more major coin! Ending tomorrow and currently at $4100.00

Actually, it ends Sunday, the day after tomorrow
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Post by: erik1925 on October 28, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
Thanks Bruce. I fixed my post, too.
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Post by: DekeThornton on October 29, 2016, 02:21:10 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 28, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
Thanks Bruce. I fixed my post, too.

That Metropolis card is absolutely stunning.  I wonder if it will show up in a "Latest Acquisitions" post from one of our illustrious forum members?
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Post by: Ari on October 29, 2016, 05:07:50 AM
agreed, one day Ill have just one thing from the film I am proud of, not this week though ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 29, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
Another beautiful eye grabber. The color and intensity just pulls you in. Artist A. Spagnoli did a mighty fine job on this Godzilla poster, currently standing at a cool $3K 

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4416232    cool1

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161023/550/italian_1p_godzilla_linen_BM08794_T.jpg)
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Post by: guest4868 on November 08, 2016, 12:41:28 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 11, 2016, 11:21:44 PM
$1151.00 and counting, for this OS for LA Confidential, which has fading going on throughout, aside from an inch or so around the the edges. I wonder where it might top off, by Thurs?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4398297

Hi guys,

This is my first post here. Was just wondering why this particular LA Confidential poster goes for so much money. Do many "recent" posters commonly go for this much?
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2016, 12:57:07 AM
First and foremost,  welcome1 to the forum, CR. Enjoy and have fun with all the good folks here.

The description in the EMP link talks about this being a rare poster with a bit of mystery surrounding it, number of copies printed, etc. All those can blend to make a pricey and collectible poster (along with a popular/collectible film title). Im sure others here will chime in, as well.

Here's another EMP link..films from the 2000 decade, sorted from most expensive shown first and you will see that other moderns also can sell for a pretty penny:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/decade%253A2000s/archive.html

And for posters auctioned for films 2010 and more recent (also sorted high to low bid price):

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/decade%253A2010s/archive.html
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Post by: Damomac on November 08, 2016, 12:58:37 AM
This is why the poster is expensive and no not many "newer posters go for that much from EMP -  "Note that this rare poster (which measures 27" x 40" [69 x 102 cm]) has been shrouded in mystery since it first surfaced in the hobby several years ago! It was first seen in the collection of a well known Canadian collector/dealer/researcher who received the poster in 1998 from a theater he was connected to, when the movie was being re-released, and he surmised that it had been created for that 1998 re-release (possibly to capitalize on the many Oscar nominations it had received), but he noted that it had a 1997 copyright, and he could not explain why. It was not until 2013 that we learned much more about this poster! A different example of this poster was consigned to us by a former Warner Bros. executive who received samples of many alternate styles of one-sheets, some of which were apparently never distributed to theaters. The executive received this poster at the same time as the regular 1997 poster, so we think it was surely created at that same time. Perhaps some of them WERE distributed to some theaters in 1998 at the time of the Oscar nominations (perhaps only ones outside the U.S., including the one in Canada, where the first one surfaced, and that makes sense, because the poster has no ratings, which would indicate it is an international one-sheet), but that does not change that it is a 1997 poster! Since that time, we have auctioned four more examples of the poster (although it is possible that we were re-consigned previously sold ones). Now we are auctioning this poster for a sixth time (but again, it is unclear whether one or more of those six were re-consigned, so we don't know how many of the posters are currently known to exist)."

There are only a handful of this style poster in existence compared to most post 90's posters where 1000s are printed for each movie
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Post by: guest4868 on November 08, 2016, 01:02:04 AM
Alright, well that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation guys!  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: brude on November 08, 2016, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: CercleRouge on November 08, 2016, 01:02:04 AM
Alright, well that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation guys!  thumbsup.gif

Welcome to APF CercleRouge.
Really interested in seeing what you collect after I saw your avatar -- Peter Lorre in 'M.'
Good choice!
thumbup 
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Post by: guest4868 on November 08, 2016, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: brude on November 08, 2016, 09:39:50 AM
Welcome to APF CercleRouge.
Really interested in seeing what you collect after I saw your avatar -- Peter Lorre in 'M.'
Good choice!
thumbup

It's one of my favorite movies, and posters. AND I have a Peter Lorre tattoo (and a Maltese Falcon tattoo to boot) but I have a feeling the M poster is slightly out of my reach. There's a beautiful one at the Neue Gallerie that I stare at every time I'm there though.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2016, 02:03:56 PM
Just because it is so very cool to see actual copies in person-- 2 more rare beauties from Todd Feiertag, both listed as BINs


First, a US teaser OS for The Invisible Man (1933)  bed1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381831612295?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

BIN: $850K / OBO

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CPkAAOSwo4pYFPy8/s-l1600.jpg)


And then, this.. an unrestored and unbacked copy of the US OS for The Mummy (1932)  bed1  notworthy.gif Truly stunning to see.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/152309921971?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

BIN - $4.5 Million  / OBO 

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vl4AAOSwImRYIQs3/s-l1600.jpg)

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Post by: jayn_j on November 08, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
As noted often before:
Some people place material on eBay to sell it.  Others put material there to brag that they have it.
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Post by: martinc on November 09, 2016, 04:00:28 AM
Where does he keep them - in a bank vault? (I suppose you would have to).

I know it's being a bit picky but for a $4.5 million poster that frame is a bit tacky (unless it's solid gold of course rather than gold paint).
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 09, 2016, 12:54:05 PM
Both of those are fabulous. I especially like the Mummy one though. Are there any other copies of these in existence?
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Post by: brude on November 09, 2016, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 08, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Others put material there to brag that they have it.

I've never seen this statement substantiated, much less explained.
Why would anyone use ebay to brag about their posters?
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Post by: erik1925 on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on November 09, 2016, 12:54:05 PM
Both of those are fabulous. I especially like the Mummy one though. Are there any other copies of these in existence?

I believe so. I know others can speak to this in greater detail, but I seem to recall a story of one copy found sandwiched among others? And it was not in the best of condition, either (again, if memory of what I read serves me correctly)

And a copy sold back in 1997 for $435,500.00 (the article link below is from 2012):

https://www.theguardian.com/film/gallery/2012/mar/14/10-most-expensive-film-posters-in-pictures
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 09, 2016, 01:23:20 PM
Quote from: brude on November 09, 2016, 01:07:03 PM
I've never seen this statement substantiated, much less explained.
Why would anyone use ebay to brag about their posters?

I king of get what Jay is on about. It's not really priced to sell but more of in the hope someone bites on it so there is that sense of feeling that it is so far out of reach that it could be portrayed as that.

I remember a UK chap on Ebay who's username was killer something. He had a few quads up for seriously ridiculous prices and his listings did display that trait of bragging.

Marc.
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Post by: brude on November 09, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
I remember Killer's listings,  but it still doesn't make much sense.
Todd's collection is legendary, known worldwide as one of the best.
By putting The Mummy on ebay at 4.5 million seems to be an invitation to those with deep pockets to seek him out to negotiate, not 'bragging rights.'
If I had his collection and wanted to brag, I'd put out a coffee table book and brag hard.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 09, 2016, 01:32:50 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 09, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
I believe so. I know others can speak to this in greater detail, but I seem to recall a story of one copy found sandwiched among others? And it was not in the best of condition, either (again, if memory of what I read serves me correctly)

And a copy sold back in 1997 for $435,500.00 (the article link below is from 2012):

https://www.theguardian.com/film/gallery/2012/mar/14/10-most-expensive-film-posters-in-pictures

Some of the best in that article Jeff. I see a lot of articles where the rumoured buyer is DiCaprio. He must have one helluva collection if true. (helps that he has the deepest pockets!)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 09, 2016, 02:30:17 PM
Update to a comment I posted above, re THE MUMMY poster. I just looked at the ebay link again, and this poster IS the same copy that sold back in 1997 for $453,500.00 (the 2012 article has the price wrong)

So along with this copy, may be that other, lesser condition copy that was discovered are the 2 known? I'm sure others, including Sean (crowzilla) would know.
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Post by: crowzilla on November 09, 2016, 03:17:46 PM
There are at least Three other copies of the Mummy One-sheet known.  One in the Borst Collection, one in the Hammett Collection, and another belonging to a museum out in California (want to say LA Public Library, but I'd have to look when I get home, it was mentioned on MoPo a couple of years ago).
Not sure how he comes up with the two number (unless he means two unrestored?), but two or four it's quite a rare piece.
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Post by: jayn_j on November 09, 2016, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: brude on November 09, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
I remember Killer's listings,  but it still doesn't make much sense.
Todd's collection is legendary, known worldwide as one of the best.
By putting The Mummy on ebay at 4.5 million seems to be an invitation to those with deep pockets to seek him out to negotiate, not 'bragging rights.'
If I had his collection and wanted to brag, I'd put out a coffee table book and brag hard.

We had a friend who did just that.  When I first knew him, he had started a definitive collection of scientific papers.  DaVinci, Edison, Einstein, etc.  He spent 5 or 6 years collecting only the very best.  Once he felt it was as good as he could make it, he set up a museum tour for 2 years and took tax credits.  Once the tour was over, he cataloged everything and sent it off to one of the major auction houses.  He also published a book that accompanied the catalog and sold the whole thing off.

He immediately started collecting early Persian ceramics.  I recall he had an entire ceramic entry hall from some house dating back to 1500 BC.  Same thing.  Museum tour, book and sale.

However, I think it is a lot easier to slap it up on ebay at a price where it won't sell.  No different than the Shelby Cobras that kept popping up at 10 times the then current auction rates.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 11, 2016, 02:08:46 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 09, 2016, 03:17:46 PM
There are at least Three other copies of the Mummy One-sheet known.  One in the Borst Collection, one in the Hammett Collection, and another belonging to a museum out in California (want to say LA Public Library, but I'd have to look when I get home, it was mentioned on MoPo a couple of years ago).
Not sure how he comes up with the two number (unless he means two unrestored?), but two or four it's quite a rare piece.

Thanks for the info Sean, appreciate it.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 17, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 09, 2016, 03:17:46 PM
There are at least Three other copies of the Mummy One-sheet known.  One in the Borst Collection, one in the Hammett Collection, and another belonging to a museum out in California (want to say LA Public Library, but I'd have to look when I get home, it was mentioned on MoPo a couple of years ago).
Not sure how he comes up with the two number (unless he means two unrestored?), but two or four it's quite a rare piece.

I happened to go to the LA County Public Library about 7 years ago, and they had on display a number of rare OS posters from both the sound and silent eras. They were in an upper gallery of the library, framed and illuminated with pin lights hung from the ceiling.

One of the posters was, in fact, a OS for The Mummy. It blew me away. Because I didnt know about the exhibit, I didnt have a camera, but it was fantastic to see a copy up close and in person like that. 
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 17, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 17, 2016, 05:47:50 PM
I happened to go to the LA County Public Library about 7 years ago, and they had on display a number of rare OS posters from both the sound and silent eras. They were in an upper gallery of the library, framed and illuminated with pin lights hung from the ceiling.

One of the posters was, in fact, a OS for The Mummy. It blew me away. Because I didnt know about the exhibit, I didnt have a camera, but it was fantastic to see a copy up close and in person like that.

We get nothing like that over here which is unfortunate. It would be nice to go to a few really rare poster exhibitions and dream about owning them lol.
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Post by: martinc on November 18, 2016, 05:42:23 AM
I remember going to the Museum of the Moving Image in London in the 1990s and it had some great posters on display (I seem to recall one for The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, one of the few in existence, unless I am mistaken). What happened to them once the museum closed, does anyone know?

There is this:

http://www.cinemamuseum.org.uk/topics/collection/advertising/

Never been myself - anyone else been and able to report back?
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Post by: erik1925 on November 18, 2016, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: martinc on November 18, 2016, 05:42:23 AM
I remember going to the Museum of the Moving Image in London in the 1990s and it had some great posters on display (I seem to recall one for The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, one of the few in existence, unless I am mistaken). What happened to them once the museum closed, does anyone know?

There is this:

http://www.cinemamuseum.org.uk/topics/collection/advertising/

Never been myself - anyone else been and able to report back?

I would wonder if the posters were owned by the museum itself? Or maybe on loan from private collectors? If that was the case, then I would think they would be returned to those folks, once the museum closed. If museum owned, then stored away until a new venue is opened? Or maybe they were sold / donated to another museum?

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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 19, 2016, 02:36:36 PM
I just realised that APF's very own Lynn Naron (RIP) has paper in the Heritage Auction that's in progress right now.

One thing I will say is that he had very good taste in movie posters (Dracula's Daughter insert)

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Post by: erik1925 on November 19, 2016, 02:57:41 PM
Nice to know some of Lynn's collection will be finding new owners/collectors who will cherish it as much as he did.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: eatbrie on November 19, 2016, 03:14:32 PM
She's pretty good, this woman.  Better than most, imo.

T
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Post by: martinc on November 30, 2016, 08:11:55 AM
Seen this poster currently up for sale by a French seller?

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Original-movie-posters-Affiche-cinema-originale-KING-KONG-1933-Sweden-/172424189536?hash=item2825485660:g:eQ0AAOSwA3dYO4bx

A great poster although a tad pricey, I feel, as the last three times it sold on Heritage varied between $28k - $31k.

The same seller also has what must be a pretty rare poster for a Mickey Mouse title, "The Wayward Canary".

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Affiche-cinema-originale-Wayward-Canary-The-1932-Mickey-mouse-70X100-Disney-/172420252047?hash=item28250c418f:g:e0EAAOSw44BYNyFE
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Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2016, 12:52:56 PM
Beautiful posters both. That KONG rocks!! But over $100K? Wow..  faint2.gif

And I wonder why the seller used what looks like a stock image for the full shot of the Mickey Mouse poster? I'd rather see the actual item. The detail shots, tho, look like the actual, framed item for sale.
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Post by: martinc on November 30, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
Plus you would think that he would add as many photos as possible (seeing as how you are allowed up to twelve free of charge by ebay) to show close-ups of small defects, fold separation,etc.

Apart from the price aspect, you would have to be a brave bidder basing your judgement on just the two photos.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 30, 2016, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: martinc on November 30, 2016, 01:51:21 PM
Plus you would think that he would add as many photos as possible (seeing as how you are allowed up to twelve free of charge by ebay) to show close-ups of small defects, fold separation,etc.

Apart from the price aspect, you would have to be a brave bidder basing your judgement on just the two photos.

Same with the KONG poster. The more pics, the better, especially when asking that kind of $$$.
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Post by: martinc on December 01, 2016, 02:01:19 PM
Is the person holding this poster really nine feet tall? If you scroll along all the photos the answer is revealed.

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Original-movie-poster-jurassic-park-Lost-world-coming-soon-240cm-x-150cm-/282273268915?hash=item41b8cc44b3:g:ursAAOSwxg5Xzdwm

I don't think the brick wall is included in the price of the poster

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Post by: erik1925 on December 01, 2016, 02:09:55 PM
And I wonder how he came up with that 700 euro starting price, too.  dontknow.gif
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Post by: JCM on December 02, 2016, 05:44:15 PM
Anyone else browsing Bruce's signature auction? I'm surprised buyers throw down these huge bids 24 hours in. Several over $5k already.

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Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2016, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: JCM on December 02, 2016, 05:44:15 PM
Anyone else browsing Bruce's signature auction? I'm surprised buyers throw down these huge bids 24 hours in. Several over $5k already.

Especially with the bidder called "stillcrazy." He's got some serious cash tossed at many of the highest bid items at this point. I wonder if he will hang on til the end.
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Post by: JCM on December 02, 2016, 07:14:46 PM
I noticed that bidder, yes.

Some really great posters there. Will be fun to watch.
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Post by: jayn_j on December 02, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
I generally see two classes of early bidder. The first just wants to be able to say he was high bidder for a short time, and doesn't really intend to win.

The other one is the guy who puts in a nuclear bid early in hopes that it will discourage other bidders.

I admit that I use a variation of the second strategy, but not until there is less than 24 hours left.  I will often put in my best bid and then walk away until it closes.  I find it less stressful, keeps me from getting drawn into a bidding war and still allows me to win more than I lose.  The key is being honest with yourself about what your top bid really is.  That is the bid where you won't feel bad if you lose it.
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Post by: JCM on December 05, 2016, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on December 02, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
I generally see two classes of early bidder. The first just wants to be able to say he was high bidder for a short time, and doesn't really intend to win.

The other one is the guy who puts in a nuclear bid early in hopes that it will discourage other bidders.

I admit that I use a variation of the second strategy, but not until there is less than 24 hours left.  I will often put in my best bid and then walk away until it closes.  I find it less stressful, keeps me from getting drawn into a bidding war and still allows me to win more than I lose.  The key is being honest with yourself about what your top bid really is.  That is the bid where you won't feel bad if you lose it.

Good analysis. I never thought of the second strategy. I assumed everyone was #1.
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Post by: Simes on December 06, 2016, 04:55:57 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on December 02, 2016, 07:32:57 PM
I generally see two classes of early bidder. The first just wants to be able to say he was high bidder for a short time, and doesn't really intend to win.

Or maybe could Never win.

Am I right in saying there was the story of the Casablanca piano that was started at a needlessly low price so the auctioneer's friend could say he had bid on, and taken part in the auction for this piece?

Thing is, it never needed to start so low for him to do this, he could just as easily have shouted first and wait for the tidal wave to overtake him...
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Post by: basemem on December 06, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4460417

$262 for Rogue One UK Quad. Got to be cheaper buying on the bay and shipping one over.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on December 06, 2016, 05:26:30 PM
Quote from: basemem on December 06, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4460417

$262 for Rogue One UK Quad. Got to be cheaper buying on the bay and shipping one over.

Crazy money.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 06, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
The price itself is not crazy, some people just don't care about money and spend it willy-nilly.  Good for them.

What's crazy to me is that the poster is in "good" condition only, which, in Bruce's world, means pretty bad.  $262 for a brand new good condition whatever is crazy.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on December 06, 2016, 06:20:40 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on December 06, 2016, 05:26:30 PM
Crazy money.

And what has pushed a quad from a 2016 flicker to $262 with a just under 3 hours to go? Must be purely the SW connection? I wouldnt think this poster is uncommon and was likely printed in fairly large quantities?

Or maybe because it is a teaser?
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Post by: BruceH on December 06, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 06, 2016, 05:52:48 PM
the poster is in "good" condition only, which, in Bruce's world, means pretty bad.

T

Never mind!


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Post by: eatbrie on December 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: BruceH on December 06, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Never mind!

Alright, in MY world ;)

T
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Post by: BruceH on December 06, 2016, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 06, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
Alright, in MY world ;)

T

 thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Damomac on December 07, 2016, 02:08:59 AM
I sold the Star Wars Quad - I am pretty happy with the result. I hope the buyer enjoys the poster, there were two buyers around the mark one jumped out at $255. Thanks to Bruce and the team for the great service i have received - fully recommend
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Post by: basemem on December 07, 2016, 02:17:15 AM
Quote from: Damomac on December 07, 2016, 02:08:59 AM
i sold the Star Wars Quad - I am pretty happy with the result. I hope the buyer enjoys there were two buyers around the mark one jumped out at $255

Congratulations Damo. Good price secured
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Post by: Damomac on December 07, 2016, 04:52:45 AM
Thanks, sometimes you have a hit sometimes a miss all part of the game i suppose but really happy with the result
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 07:34:43 PM
Dominique is going to be one happy camper, methinks. With this and all the others of his being auctioned.

Up to $20,500.00 with just over a half hour to go.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461085

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161201/550/casablanca_WC07850_L.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
I don't get this at all.  Aside from the title, this is one ugly poster.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 08:58:51 PM
Looks like someone got total steal on it, tho ($26,055.00). The last one to sell on HA (was also not backed) in Nov of 2015, sold for $77,675.00   faint2.gif

Let's hope Dominique doesn't know that... he just might be  crying    ;D
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Post by: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Yeah, but the modal average price was still around the $20+k mark.

$77k was an utter anomaly, by all accounts.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 09:10:09 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Yeah, but the modal average price was still around the $20+k mark.

$77k was an utter anomaly, by all accounts.

Yes, Simon I did see those copies that HA sold 3-5 years ago going in that similar range, so the $77K result was a 'bid battle' to the finish.  gun1
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:11:46 PM
Still an ugly poster and one I would never put on my walls.  Oh wait, I don't put anything on my walls.  Nevermind ;) 

(that was a joke).
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Post by: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
I don't get this at all.  Aside from the title, this is one ugly poster.

T

WB could have done so much more with this poster design, imho. The drab browns and overall lack of color make it appear so lackluster.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
WB could have done so much more with this poster design, imho. The drab browns and overall lack of color make it appear so lackluster.

There are so many great Casablanca posters.  International especially.  This one is awful.

(this is not a joke.)

T
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Post by: Chris9000 on December 08, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
How about Psycho going for $2,100 ... I'm going to need to hop on one of these soon before they get too far out of my range if that keeps up.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461136 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461136)
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
Psycho doesn't seem crazy to me.  Great title, awesome poster.  And not far from what it sells for usually.

T
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Post by: ladeda on December 08, 2016, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
There are so many great Casablanca posters.  International especially.  This one is awful.

(this is not a joke.)

T

I agree. It's just not memorable. When looking at it, my eyes glaze over. It's a bore.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 08, 2016, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 08:58:51 PM
Looks like someone got total steal on it, tho ($26,055.00). The last one to sell on HA (was also not backed) in Nov of 2015, sold for $77,675.00   faint2.gif

Let's hope Dominique doesn't know that... he just might be  crying    ;D

I can't see any reason someone with a Casablanca poster wouldn't give it to Heritage. Their track record on this title is amazing & clearly - unmatched.

Quote from: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
Yeah, but the modal average price was still around the $20+k mark.

$77k was an utter anomaly, by all accounts.

see my comment above. In any case $26k is a very low price.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
Isn't Posterchild Dave L?  Didn't you guys say that?  If so, he probably has a client willing to fork out $77k.

T
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Post by: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Aside from the one anomaly, Heritage's track record has been;

29k, 18, 12k, 21k, 20k 15k

By and large, Bruce has done better with this one.
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Post by: brude on December 08, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
I won another replacement poster that I've been unable to buy for years.
Got it tonight for a lot less than I could've on Ebay.

And, I was watching that Day of the Triffids...
Lucky me got that on Ebay for almost 1/2 what it sold for tonight.

Fuckin' win-win for me
 cheers.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 08, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
yuo must be ignoring their track record since 2014 on the titles which has been into the stratosphere.

only last month they sold a Reissue Italian for $200k and a half sheet for $167k. Obviously the title has reached a special status with HA and if this poster gets turned around and sold there, the price will triple.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
Actually, I was looking at Bruce's entire auction and a lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would.  Great opportunities for members of this forum, I hope...  Barbarella B, Good Bad and Ugly, Revenge of the Jedi, You Only Live Twice, the list goes on and on.  The big ones always sell for a lot, but the middle of the road posters get buried because there is just so much money people can spend in a single auction.  For instance, I won 4 posters, there were more that I wanted, some that sold for very little, but I passed on them because I put a cap of my spending.  I think it's a problem when you pack too many great titles at one time.  They should be more spread out to give buyers a chance to breathe and refuel.

T
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Post by: Undead on December 08, 2016, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
Isn't Posterchild Dave L?

Yes Dave has publicly admitted that is his handle.
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Post by: BruceH on December 08, 2016, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
Actually, I was looking at Bruce's entire auction and a lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would.  Great opportunities for members of this forum, I hope...  Barbarella B, Good Bad and Ugly, Revenge of the Jedi, You Only Live Twice, the list goes on and on.  The big ones always sell for a lot, but the middle of the road posters get buried because there is just so much money people can spend in a single auction.  For instance, I won 4 posters, there were more that I wanted, some that sold for very little, but I passed on them because I put a cap of my spending.  I think it's a problem when you pack too many great titles at one time.  They should be more spread out to give buyers a chance to breathe and refuel.

T

Please post a list of what exactly were the "lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would". I am really curious to see what they are.

And out of curiosity, were there ANY posters that sold for MORE than you thought they would? If there were, how about a list of those as well?

Thanks!
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Post by: BruceH on December 08, 2016, 11:23:59 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Aside from the one anomaly, Heritage's track record has been;

29k, 18, 12k, 21k, 20k 15k

By and large, Bruce has done better with this one.

No fair using facts!
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Post by: BruceH on December 08, 2016, 11:27:23 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
Actually, I was looking at Bruce's entire auction and a lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would.  Great opportunities for members of this forum, I hope...  Barbarella B, Good Bad and Ugly, Revenge of the Jedi, You Only Live Twice, the list goes on and on.  The big ones always sell for a lot, but the middle of the road posters get buried because there is just so much money people can spend in a single auction.  For instance, I won 4 posters, there were more that I wanted, some that sold for very little, but I passed on them because I put a cap of my spending.  I think it's a problem when you pack too many great titles at one time.  They should be more spread out to give buyers a chance to breathe and refuel.

T

Now I am REALLY confused! Right before you posted the above, you posted the below in the eMoviePoster.com thread:

"Good stuff tonight, Bruce.  Everything I like.  Nice FOLDED posters.  Makes me very happy, even though a lot of what I wanted sold for way over what I could afford.  Still got a few things, though, so good times"

So how is it that in one thread you saw that "a lot of what I wanted sold for way over what I could afford" while in the other you saw that "a lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would"?

Now I REALLY want to see those lists!

Thanks.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 09, 2016, 12:12:37 AM
I thought about it right after I typed the above message and decided to keep it because I still think that if you auction too many quality items at the same time, it ends up being a detriment to lesser items, which is basically what I said above.  There is just so much money to be spent.  Some people got great deals because others were too busy spending too much money elsewhere.  I'm sure it happens to Heritage too.  I don't know how to go around it, though, but you, unlike them, have the luxury of having 3 sales a week.  Or maybe there are just too many posters out there.

T
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Post by: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 12:16:23 AM
Talking in generalities is fine, but show me the lists. I am truly excited to see them.

Thanks!
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on December 09, 2016, 01:10:30 AM
Quote from: Chris9000 on December 08, 2016, 09:14:46 PM
How about Psycho going for $2,100 ... I'm going to need to hop on one of these soon before they get too far out of my range if that keeps up.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461136 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461136)

Zowie, CHRIS! That shocked me too. It was a LOT more than i got mine for.



Quote from: brude on December 08, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
I won another replacement poster that I've been unable to buy for years.
Got it tonight for a lot less than I could've on Ebay.

And, I was watching that Day of the Triffids...
Lucky me got that on Ebay for almost 1/2 what it sold for tonight.

Fuckin' win-win for me
 cheers.

Oooo TED! You scored a DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS???  Kowabunga! How uber-awesome!
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Post by: guest4868 on December 09, 2016, 02:02:44 AM
I wasn't expecting The Third Man to crack $1k (that was my high bid) or 2001 to shoot so far past $5k.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 09, 2016, 02:06:25 AM
if using facts is fair (and of course it is) Heritage has been killing it with Casablanca posters for 2+ years, with 3 sales of $167k to $203k and several others for $25k-107k

this is an unmistakable track record

added information is that the Heritage sales have all been to collectors, while the sale last night was to a dealer, who is without a doubt going to resell the poster for a huge profit

these....... are facts!
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Post by: Simes on December 09, 2016, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 08, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
yuo must be ignoring their track record since 2014 on the titles which has been into the stratosphere.

only last month they sold a Reissue Italian for $200k and a half sheet for $167k. Obviously the title has reached a special status with HA and if this poster gets turned around and sold there, the price will triple.

Hi,

Perhaps I am missing something but I was comparing like-for-like poster results.  Not everything else.  The poster we're discussing is just the Casa US 1 sheet, I thought....?
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Post by: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
Quote from: Simes on December 09, 2016, 04:25:17 AM
Hi,

Perhaps I am missing something but I was comparing like-for-like poster results.  Not everything else.  The poster we're discussing is just the Casa US 1 sheet, I thought....?

No fair trying to be logical
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Post by: Chris9000 on December 09, 2016, 07:55:05 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
Psycho doesn't seem crazy to me.  Great title, awesome poster.  And not far from what it sells for usually.

T

I agree, beautiful poster, and it is one of my top three films of all time, but it went for roughly $500-$600 more than it has been in that condition, which is around 32% more than what it's been tracking at. A pretty good jump in my book.
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Post by: Simes on December 09, 2016, 08:21:45 AM
Quote from: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
No fair trying to be logical

Quite.

Perhaps also we can compare a Dr No UK Quad sold on Heritage and a Thai video poster of Moonraker sold on eBay.  Again, Heritage is just cleaning up all over the estate...!
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Post by: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 08:22:38 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
Psycho doesn't seem crazy to me.  Great title, awesome poster.  And not far from what it sells for usually.

T

Interesting. The last time it sold at Heritage, three weeks ago, it "sold" for $1,434. So you see $2,100 as "not far from what it sells for usually"? Anyone else agree?

In discussions of posters, whether it is a Psycho one-sheet or a Casablanca one-sheet, it is important to compare "apples to apples and oranges to oranges".

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Post by: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 08:23:21 AM
Quote from: Simes on December 09, 2016, 08:21:45 AM
Quite.

Perhaps also we can compare a Dr No UK Quad sold on Heritage and a Thai video poster of Moonraker sold on eBay.  Again, Heritage is just cleaning all over the estate...!

Exactly. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 08, 2016, 10:19:12 PM
Actually, I was looking at Bruce's entire auction and a lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would.  Great opportunities for members of this forum, I hope...  Barbarella B, Good Bad and Ugly, Revenge of the Jedi, You Only Live Twice, the list goes on and on.  The big ones always sell for a lot, but the middle of the road posters get buried because there is just so much money people can spend in a single auction.  For instance, I won 4 posters, there were more that I wanted, some that sold for very little, but I passed on them because I put a cap of my spending.  I think it's a problem when you pack too many great titles at one time.  They should be more spread out to give buyers a chance to breathe and refuel.

T
I agree with T on this.  For example I haven't got endless pockets of cash and there were five posters I REALLY wanted in this auction. However, there's no chance I could bid $3000 on all five in the hope I got one just in case I won all five! So I had to basically choose the poster I desired the most out of those 5 and go for that.

So by having many titles that I wanted in one auction didn't really work for me.

I'm not complaining though Bruce as it was a fabulous auction to be involved in


Congrats on the Laura T. I had a bite at this as well. I'll just have to wait until the next comes along.
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Post by: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 08:23:29 AM
I agree with T on this.  For example I haven't got endless pockets of cash and there were five posters I REALLY wanted in this auction. However, there's no chance I could bid $3000 on all five in the hope I got one just in case I won all five! So I had to basically choose the poster I desired the most out of those 5 and go for that.

So by having many titles that I wanted in one auction didn't really work for me.

I'm not complaining though Bruce as it was a fabulous auction to be involved in


Congrats on the Laura T. I had a bite at this as well. I'll just have to wait until the next comes along.

I see your point. What were the four posters you did not get? I want to see how their prices were lower because you could not bid on them.
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Post by: Simes on December 09, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
I guess that is the conflict on all Signature type auctions.

There is a great deal of fanfare and interest; people flock from all over and wake up from their slumber for these few events a year.

But at the same time it does rather necessitate people having the deepest of pockets in one specific month if interests extend far and wide. 
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Post by: brude on December 09, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
Quote from: Simes on December 09, 2016, 04:25:17 AM
Perhaps I am missing something but I was comparing like-for-like poster results.  Not everything else.  The poster we're discussing is just the Casa US 1 sheet, I thought....?

You thought correctly -- and beat me to the punch with your response.
 cheers
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Post by: CineMasterpieces on December 09, 2016, 10:01:45 AM
Yes, we won the Casablanca one sheet. And quite a few others as well. I'm sure it will take awhile to sell it but we are in no rush. The one sheet may not be the most appealing poster for this title, but it is an extremely important poster and a must have for serious deep pocketed collectors. And most of them prefer the size of a one sheet over an insert or half sheet if they are displaying it in their castle.

Excellent auction Bruce.

Just like in almost every modern day movie poster auction....there were several steals, several that set a record high, and several that sold for what they usually do.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 09, 2016, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 08:23:29 AM
Congrats on the Laura T. I had a bite at this as well. I'll just have to wait until the next comes along.

Thanks.  My favorite movie of all time.  I had been looking for a folded version for ever.  HA sold one, 6 months ago, for $12k.  I actually bid on it.  The only folded one they have ever sold, and I think it was Bruce's first.  So I feel mine is a bargain.  Condition is key, but this one is not too bad, considering it's age.  I'll put it at the bottom of a drawer and it will flatten over time.  So I now own the 1/2 sheet, the LC set, the 1 sht and the ultra rare French.  I need the 6sht next.  The hunt continues  thumbsup.gif

T
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 09, 2016, 10:37:26 AM
Thanks.  My favorite movie of all time.  I had been looking for a folded version for ever.  HA sold one, 6 months ago, for $12k.  I actually bid on it.  The only folded one they have ever sold, and I think it was Bruce's first.  So I feel mine is a bargain.  Condition is key, but this one is not too bad, considering it's age.  I'll put it at the bottom of a drawer and it will flatten over time.  So I now own the 1/2 sheet, the LC set, the 1 sht and the ultra rare French.  I need the 6sht next.  The hunt continues  thumbsup.gif

T

Yes it's mine as well. I'm a little way behind you on the Laura stakes. I own the LC set, 1/2 sheet and the Finnish one I mentioned in the 'only ever seen one thread' I very much doubt I'll ever own the French but I'll try and get the 1sheet.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there only one known 6sheet?

Marc
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 11:18:42 AM
Quote from: BruceH on December 09, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
I see your point. What were the four posters you did not get? I want to see how their prices were lower because you could not bid on them.

Bruce, they were Laura, Psycho, Rebecca and Big Sleep. The other one is still going.

The $3000 bids were just an example so you understand the plight of a poor fellow like me  ;D

I maybe could have got the Big Sleep if I really went for it (depending on how much the other guy really wanted it) but bidding over my budget isn't good for my health (the GF would kill me  ;D)

Once again congrats on the auction
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Post by: eatbrie on December 09, 2016, 11:35:09 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on December 09, 2016, 11:10:30 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there only one known 6sheet?


A friend of mine owns one and I will eventually get it from him.  Patience is key.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 09, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 09, 2016, 04:25:17 AM
Hi,

Perhaps I am missing something but I was comparing like-for-like poster results.  Not everything else.  The poster we're discussing is just the Casa US 1 sheet, I thought....?

well if that's the case, that we only discuss a very specific size, then HA got $77k for the poster last time they sold it.  Period. That's the price that stands.

Otherwise you may as well go all the way back to 1994 where Bruce sold one for $3910 and 1991 when he got $5720.

But seeing as measuring those sales is ridiculous in the modern age, you take ALL the pertinent data, which is that Heritage has been killing it with that title

there is no way for you to massage the data that HA is not the absolute winner on this title, presuming you want to hear.....
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Post by: crowzilla on December 09, 2016, 05:03:07 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 08, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
Aside from the one anomaly, Heritage's track record has been;

29k, 18, 12k, 21k, 20k 15k

By and large, Bruce has done better with this one.

Actually, I think the only track record to compare to might be the $77K sale since I don't think HA has sold another unbacked copy.
There was a lot of pent-up demand for an unrestored copy of this poster, but I agree that on Casablanca in general if I had one to sell it would go to Heritage. Especially if I was hoping to hit the lottery and get a six-figure sale.
I'm sure Bruce will correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe he has EVER had a six-figure sale, while HA has notched up a couple dozen of them at least.
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Post by: crowzilla on December 09, 2016, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: BruceH on December 08, 2016, 11:22:00 PM
Please post a list of what exactly were the "lot of titles sold for less than I thought they would". I am really curious to see what they are.

And out of curiosity, were there ANY posters that sold for MORE than you thought they would? If there were, how about a list of those as well?

Thanks!

Didn't he give you a list (or at least part of one) in the original post? I know he mentioned the Barbarella B-style, which looking at I see only went for $580. I think that might be a record low for you at auction?
(especially considering it was unbacked, if I am wrong and you have sold one for less please let me know).

Looking at the list from Thursday sorted highest to lowest, it would seem the top 4 posters might have sold at a discount to what other auction houses might have gotten for similar-condition unrestored copies.
(Casablanca already well discussed, Maltese Falcon recently sold for 2x what this copy sold for, Mark of Zorro is a title that almost never surfaces unrestored and I would expect it to go higher, while it's rare for an unrestored Creature poster to NOT crack $10K).

But looking at the next four posters, they all seem to have done well, a very strong price for a 2001 Style C, a possible record high price for the Outlaw poster, and two solid results for Hitchcock pieces.
Continue to the next couple of rows and it's mixed, Thierry already told us about the incredible bargain he got on the Laura one-sheet (almost 1/4 what the last unrestored copy sold for at auction), and things like The Misfits and Get Carter seem like strong results.
But all of these should have been strong results, it is very rare for most of these pieces to turn up in unrestored condition like this. Definitely a great opportunity for dealers this past week (seeing the names on many of the results) and hopefully some collectors picked up a few as well.

 
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Post by: Simes on December 10, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 09, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
well if that's the case, that we only discuss a very specific size, then HA got $77k for the poster last time they sold it.  Period. That's the price that stands.

Hi.  I don't want to be difficult, and surely I am enjoying discussing the abstract points and merits of competing auction houses...

But I do think there has been enough documentation on these boards to suggest that, two people duking it out for a poster with limitless funds in their pockets, once, does not denote the new standard.

There have been cases everywhere where this happens, so I personally, and humbly, would opt for the recent and modal average, rather than a one-off.

For example, the top left corner example in this link I doubt has been repeated.  And I suspect is as a result of the above scenario.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/GOLDFINGER%255C%252FDR.%2520NO/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/archive.html

All the best.

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Post by: CineMasterpieces on December 10, 2016, 12:19:14 PM
I'll add some fuel to the fire....for no other reason than I don't want to get out of bed yet.  ;D

Why not add DEALER sold prices to the mix?

We sold a linen backed c7-c8 Casablanca one sheet for $64,000 several months before Heritage sold theirs for almost $80,000.

We have a different one listed on our site now for over 100k. It may never sell at that price.....but then again it might. If it does, then what will everyone here say? That it doesn't count because it wasn't sold at auction?

And what about the other posters we have sold for record high prices? Is that data worthless? I don't want to list them here (like I did many years ago) because some will think I'm either bragging, advertising, or lying. And then we get nasty anonymous emails from the "haters".

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Post by: brude on December 10, 2016, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on December 10, 2016, 12:19:14 PM
I'll add some fuel to the fire....for no other reason than I don't want to get out of bed yet.  ;D

Why not add DEALER sold prices to the mix?

We sold a linen backed c7-c8 Casablanca one sheet for $64,000 several months before Heritage sold theirs for almost $80,000.

We have a different one listed on our site now for over 100k. It may never sell at that price.....but then again it might. If it does, then what will everyone here say? That it doesn't count because it wasn't sold at auction?

And what about the other posters we have sold for record high prices? Is that data worthless? I don't want to list them here (like I did many years ago) because some will think I'm either bragging, advertising, or lying. And then we get nasty anonymous emails from the "haters".

I, for one, think dealer sold prices are extremely relevant to this discussion.
You get any hate mail, Dave....  I'll authorize drone strikes.

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Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 10, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 10, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
But I do think there has been enough documentation on these boards to suggest that, two people duking it out for a poster with limitless funds in their pockets, once, does not denote the new standard.

that wouldn't be the case for a Back to the Future one sheet, which is as common as chicken feathers, but when you are talking about one of the top, historic titles of all time. A hero of a film that has withstood 70+ years of unbelievable fame and a poster that is far from common.. you have an entirely different situation.

plus you have HA's past 2 1/2 years of knocking it out of the park on this title. To be sure, you also have no idea if it was only 2 bidders, or 3 or 4, unless Grey were to say so. It could be there were a dozen bidders up to 25k, tapering off until 2 fought over the last few bids over 60k

But what do have a factual result - HA has indeed sold  Casablanca 1sh for $77k.

Quote from: Simes on December 10, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
For example, the top left corner example in this link I doubt has been repeated.  And I suspect is as a result of the above scenario.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/GOLDFINGER%255C%252FDR.%2520NO/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/archive.html

all I see is a re-issue Goldfinger card for $38 at top left
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Post by: Neo on December 10, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
I applaud all reputable sellers for their work.  Selling stuff is definitely not as easy as it looks, in many respects, and it's always interesting to see how the different business models work.  Of course, the few amazing, "big ticket" items add a lot of fuel to the industry, and they make it all a little more fun.


Speaking of amazing stuff, at eMoviePoster, there happens to be a very nice Close Encounters of the Third Kind Hungarian A2 aka 1/2 Sheet (59 x 42 cm or 23.2" x 16.5").

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4467835 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4467835)

It's from the artist Tibor Helenyi's personal collection, with a COA from a well known dealer in Hungary.  It is surely one of the best, if not the best example floating around.
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Post by: Simes on December 10, 2016, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 10, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
all I see is a re-issue Goldfinger card for $38 at top left

Oops.  Clearly my link didn't work for the general populace.

Apologies for the winding road, but I was trying to demonstrate a Dr No / Goldfinger reissue double feature lobby set that went for nearly $1k, once.  A price that is normally attributed to a first release Dr No lobby card set in good condition.  That it happens once in no ways sets the standard against which all other auctions have to meet. 

The more normal price for this set would be around the $300 mark, as the modal average would suggest.
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Post by: Simes on December 10, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 10, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
To be sure, you also have no idea if it was only 2 bidders, or 3 or 4, unless Grey were to say so. It could be there were a dozen bidders up to 25k, tapering off until 2 fought over the last few bids over 60k

Yes, I completely concede this point.

But, the history would seem to suggest that at this specific point in time, there were two worthy bidders having a pop at each other.

At the end of the day, $77k happened once, ever.  And ~$20+k happens all the time...at Heritage.  So what else is there to say?
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Post by: Simes on December 10, 2016, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: CineMasterpieces on December 10, 2016, 12:19:14 PM
I'll add some fuel to the fire....for no other reason than I don't want to get out of bed yet.  ;D
Why not add DEALER sold prices to the mix?
We sold a linen backed c7-c8 Casablanca one sheet for $64,000 several months before Heritage sold theirs for almost $80,000.

Because if for no other reason than yours is a different selling business model to that of Bruce.

Bruce sells everything that week, no matter.

You sell yours whenever (if ever) someone has the chops to pony up for a good poster and service.

Ultimately, one might say, all this is dictated by the (in this case, no doubt) informed intentions of the end client.  In this case again, Besson.  He wanted to get rid in one fell swoop, and this was the vehicle that best served his purpose.

If Besson had wanted to sell over the course of five years, I daresay, other funds could have been realised.  But he didn't.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 10, 2016, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 10, 2016, 06:08:59 PM
Ultimately, one might say, all this is dictated by the (in this case, no doubt) informed intentions of the end client.  In this case again, Besson.  He wanted to get rid in one fell swoop, and this was the vehicle that best served his purpose.

If Besson had wanted to sell over the course of five years, I daresay, other funds could have been realised.  But he didn't.

I don't know why you think if Dominique said to Grey "can you list all of this in one Signature auction and the lesser stuff within 30 days?" Grey wouldn't say "Sure. We can do that!"
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Post by: AdamCarterJones on December 11, 2016, 11:01:08 AM
Auction prices are one thing.
Dealer prices are another thing.
Private sales are another thing.

You can mix the prices together, but you cannot mix the processes involved. This is where people in my opinion must be careful when pricing items.

It takes just one person to buy a poster listed at say £10k on a dealer's site, but it takes two at auction to get it to that point and/or beyond often with BPs to add. Then you have the added complication with dealer and private sales of trade plus cash deals. In my experience, unless you are either party to the information or involved in the transaction, dealers never tell you when they complete such a deal. They just tell you the item sold for £10k, which can be misleading and is certainly unclear because they could have took £7k cash along with a poster they could sell for £3k. This doesn't mean the poster sold for £10k because they could have actually paid £1k for the trade-in poster with a view to sell it for £3k to make up the original £10k.

Forgetting eBay (which is a bit of an enigma at times with every item going), I think Rich's site, Bruce's site, Heritage and other auction houses who often sell posters are the best to gauge prices for the most up to date, and dare I say, reliable values. Dealer sites then come next as this gives you an average, current retail value. But then you sometimes find the auction houses sell the posters for MORE than the retail setups which just messes everything up lol!
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Post by: Simes on December 11, 2016, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on December 10, 2016, 07:40:44 PM
I don't know why you think if Dominique said to Grey "can you list all of this in one Signature auction and the lesser stuff within 30 days?" Grey wouldn't say "Sure. We can do that!"

I don't think that.  Why would you think I think that?  I haven't said I think that, or that I think you think I think that...

Your point being sir?
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Post by: Simes on December 15, 2016, 08:37:56 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 08, 2016, 07:34:43 PM
Dominique is going to be one happy camper, methinks. With this and all the others of his being auctioned.

Up to $20,500.00 with just over a half hour to go.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4461085

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA161201/550/casablanca_WC07850_L.jpg)

This same poster was on today's Bonham's auction but it appears not to have been sold?  There are sums against those which appear to have sold.  Not so with this one.

Was anyone following it?  If so, where did the bidding get to?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 15, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
the same copy? I doubt it.
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Post by: Simes on December 15, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
To clarify:  Same design.  Different poster.

Interested in comparative bids...
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Post by: crowzilla on December 15, 2016, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 15, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
To clarify:  Same design.  Different poster.

Interested in comparative bids...


was it unbacked?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on December 16, 2016, 04:13:10 AM
Good question.  In all honesty, I couldn't say.

It was Lot 04, but in this list, it appears not to have sold.

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23527/?category=results#/aa0=1&w0=results&m0=0

Hence why I was wondering if anyone was following in real time to know what it got up to before being yanked.
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Post by: crowzilla on December 16, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: Simes on December 16, 2016, 04:13:10 AM
Good question.  In all honesty, I couldn't say.

It was Lot 04, but in this list, it appears not to have sold.

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23527/?category=results#/aa0=1&w0=results&m0=0

Hence why I was wondering if anyone was following in real time to know what it got up to before being yanked.

Since the description says "U.S. one-sheet, lined backed, in mount, framed and glazed, overall size 27 x 41 in ", I would think it was indeed linenbacked.
And in that case, would not be a comparative bid at any rate.
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Post by: Simes on December 16, 2016, 11:45:47 AM
Ah, had to go into the catalogue for that.

Indeed.

Thanks for pointing out.

 :-[
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Post by: erik1925 on January 21, 2017, 01:02:59 AM
Is this really a $4750.00 quad? It's had some minor restoration and been linen backed, as well.

Inquiring minds want to know.  ;D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DR-WHO-AND-THE-DALEKS-1966-British-Quad-30x40-rare-Original-Peter-Cushing/262595037952?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40778%26meid%3D31870892c2c04aa2b54d172bd450793c%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D182400424310

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/aPgAAOSwzJ5Xb0Dk/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: Damomac on January 21, 2017, 02:12:33 AM
At least it has a payment payment it can be yours for only $198 per month for 24 months - nice poster but WOW price
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Post by: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 03:40:18 AM
I would normally put £1-1.5K on it Jeff, they can go either way, depends who's after it at the time...

Oddly, I put mine up just after Christmas, will post a pic...
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Post by: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 04:01:33 AM
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/IMG_0145_zpsopzho1b1.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/PaulWaines/media/IMG_0145_zpsopzho1b1.jpg.html)
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Post by: martinc on January 21, 2017, 04:49:36 AM
That poster brings back memories of seeing the film (in Torquay, on holiday) when it was first released. They probably seem a bit old hat now but the Daleks were incredibly scary for kids (even if they couldn't go up stairs).

You're not starting a niche Roy Castle collection are you, Paul?
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Post by: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 07:42:59 AM
Haha,  never thought of it before, I do have Dr Terrors and Legend of the Werewolf..


And this, which my friend Mick gave me..

(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/game%20pics/PICT0209_zpswg3ltjrn.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/PaulWaines/media/game%20pics/PICT0209_zpswg3ltjrn.jpg.html)
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Post by: brude on January 21, 2017, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 04:01:33 AM
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/IMG_0145_zpsopzho1b1.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/PaulWaines/media/IMG_0145_zpsopzho1b1.jpg.html)

Absolutely beautiful.
 cheers
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Post by: erik1925 on January 21, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 03:40:18 AM
I would normally put £1-1.5K on it Jeff, they can go either way, depends who's after it at the time...

Oddly, I put mine up just after Christmas, will post a pic...

Thanks for the info, Paul. I guess it's like any other poster (or anything). Until one actually sells for the price asked, it is still just an asking price and nothing more.

And your framed copy looks fantastic, too.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
Quite right Jeff,  I do know some people just put stuff on to show them off, with a big price tag so they don't sell... eyeroll
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Post by: erik1925 on January 21, 2017, 12:52:15 PM
Indeed, Paul. All part of the "look at what I've got and you don't" syndrome, when priced sky high like that.  :-\

And in all fairness, others do use ebay and that kind of pricing to attract folks to look at other items they have for sale that are more reasonably priced, too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: martinc on January 21, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: paul waines on January 21, 2017, 07:42:59 AM
Haha,  never thought of it before, I do have Dr Terrors and Legend of the Werewolf..


And this, which my friend Mick gave me..

(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p501/PaulWaines/game%20pics/PICT0209_zpswg3ltjrn.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/PaulWaines/media/game%20pics/PICT0209_zpswg3ltjrn.jpg.html)

You could also start a trumpet-playing-actor themed collection...or maybe not, there are enough distractions in this hobby as it is.

Nice "Mighty Joe Young" poster, by the way.
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Post by: ddilts399 on January 21, 2017, 11:31:24 PM
Galaxy2001 new to crushing people on EMP or I just not been paying attention lately?
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Post by: jpicken on January 22, 2017, 10:27:38 AM
La La Land Intl. Australia?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916)

WOW!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on January 22, 2017, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: jpicken on January 22, 2017, 10:27:38 AM
La La Land Intl. Australia?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916)

WOW!

Along with the other W word ---

WHY?

I dont get it.  dontknow.gif
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Post by: Simes on January 22, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
Cough.
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Post by: Neo on January 23, 2017, 12:19:12 AM
Quote from: jpicken on January 22, 2017, 10:27:38 AM
La La Land Intl. Australia?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/262806645916)

WOW!

Almost $400 now with 15 hours to go.  :o

Some Australian posters are scarce.  I have no idea if this one is, but a few years ago I was determined to find an Aussie one sheet for Drive (2011) at about the end of its run on the big screen.  To make a long story short, I was stoked to eventually find one, and a nice young lady picked it up and mailed it to me.

I think this is a really nice poster, for a great, popular movie.  It will be interesting to see if many more of these appear for sale.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 23, 2017, 12:29:06 AM
Along with 23.00 for shipping! Ouch.  Doh.gif
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Post by: Damomac on January 23, 2017, 01:53:11 AM
Jeff i like how you said "long with 23.00 for shipping! Ouch." Every poster i buy i have to pay that to get them here in Australia hence why i buy a large number of posters off one person - very rare i buy only one and it has to be a great deal. I do always factor in the shipping cost with every purchase. You guys over in the states are very lucky with your postage cost. 
The poster is very rare a couple of guys i get posters off from cinemas here didn't have one to give me (i must admit i would have sold it straight away anyway, i split the proceeds with the guys). The ones i got for the movie are the lump post one which was just the US style (no writing).
I am yet to see that version the seller is selling anywhere here but they are around i am sure but compared with the sheer numbers of the US lamp post posters i can sort of understand why someone would pay that price if the US style is selling for $150 - $200. I would be surprised if there was more than 100 of them made.

If there are any other aussies on here id like to know if they have seen one

Cheers
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 23, 2017, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: Damomac on January 23, 2017, 01:53:11 AM
Every poster i buy i have to pay that to get them here in Australia hence why i buy a large number of posters off one person - very rare i buy only one and it has to be a great deal. I do always factor in the shipping cost with every purchase. You guys over in the states are very lucky with your postage cost. 


you may feel that way, but really, postage costs come out of the seller. Factually, for every dollar shipping goes up is a dollar less that people bid

then, with our newly Republican majority in all three house, they will be doing their best to privatize the post office & costs will skyrocket to match UPS & Fed-x rates

it's not going to be fun.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 23, 2017, 01:35:02 PM
Hey Damo, if the poster is more rare and was produced in smaller quantities, then I can see it going for a bit more, but it has to do with this movie also being on the 'hot list' and poster collectors feeling the need to have a copy. So, like any auctin, those that want it the most will drive that price up.

In looking at the imagery, it is nice looking but it's basically a posed, photographic shot, with added, digital retouching to make it look even nicer and "sparkle & shine" along with added tweaking to the background elements, etc.

I havent looked this morning to see if it has gone any higher.. and kudos to whoever the winning bidder is.  :)

Re shipping.. i know shipping from AU has always looked to be much more expensive than some surrounding countries. For example, Ive had a couple of rolled Japanese B1s come from Japan to me in southern CA and the cost was about $10.00 USD and they arrived in about a week. So I know shipping can vary quite a bit depending on where a parcel is coming from.
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Post by: Damomac on January 23, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
Thanks Jeff , even though i have only been collecting for a short while i have learnt to stay away from the hot new release posters for a while  - i agree though the prices people are paying for all the La la land posters are insane. Its up to $692 US dollars at current so i think the seller will be throwing a party this weekend.   faint2.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on January 23, 2017, 03:11:20 PM
Holy mackerel. Up to $692.00!!! That deserves a a few more  faint2.gif faint2.gif faint2.gif     ;D
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Post by: Damomac on January 23, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
haha agree - it deserves a whole page of  faint2.gif - that was the winning bid - now the seller will be praying the winner pays and that the package doesn't get "lost" in transit.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 23, 2017, 03:29:28 PM
What's interesting, too, is that the winner bidder has feedback of only 21 and he/she was bidding against an opponent with 15,874 feedback. That one on one battle drove up the price and the "younger" player won.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=262806645916&showauto=true
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Post by: jpicken on January 23, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
$692!!!!!  :D I like the movie and the poster and thought it would close for around $125.  Shows what little I know.
Gratz to the seller and the winner.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 23, 2017, 09:46:34 PM
Quote from: jpicken on January 23, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
$692!!!!!  :D I like the movie and the poster and thought it would close for around $125.  Shows what little I know.
Gratz to the seller and the winner.

if this poster actually sold, I'll eat my dirty socks. You have 3 bidders, with the 21 feedback bidder driving it up all the way

undoubtedly, the seller has a roll of them and is faking a price so he can maybe sell some for a real value..

what a crock.

incredibly, the seller probably had some real bidders up to $145 and thought he could scab the bidders for more.. hilarious
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Post by: Damomac on January 24, 2017, 03:07:22 AM
Ill keep an eye on the seller and see if they re -list the poster and if the buyer leaves feedback  - interesting to see if you are right Rich, it was an insane price
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Post by: Tob on January 24, 2017, 04:45:43 AM
It's a high price, but not that unbelievable, is it? 

I've seen lots of people asking for the US one sheets in print groups...folk that do not collect original posters. I think when a film really connects with people, you get that cross over where non-collectors start buying them. This specific design is also English language, double sided, a different (and nice) image and scarcer than the US designs. Perhaps the buyer won't pay, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do.
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Post by: 50s on January 24, 2017, 08:02:29 AM
Yellow & blue in posters... blah (http://www.slashfilm.com/orangeblue-contrast-in-movie-posters/)... except for my avatar!


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Post by: jpicken on January 24, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
A different seller jumping into the game with a high opening bid. Can you blame them? Maybe they are a member here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777?)


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Post by: 50s on January 24, 2017, 08:08:02 AM
That's T :-P
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on January 24, 2017, 02:52:17 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 23, 2017, 09:46:34 PM
if this poster actually sold, I'll eat my dirty socks. You have 3 bidders, with the 21 feedback bidder driving it up all the way

undoubtedly, the seller has a roll of them and is faking a price so he can maybe sell some for a real value..

what a crock.

incredibly, the seller probably had some real bidders up to $145 and thought he could scab the bidders for more.. hilarious

Yeah, that would be a no.
I know that seller and he is a very straight up person.  No way he would be doing that.  Nor is there a roll of them waiting to be relisted.  One or two, maybe...
Two people just really wanted one I guess!  Interesting, I am guessing the 15,000+ bidder set their high bid early assuming no one would pay that much, only to have someone with too much money and not enough cents (;) ) outbid them.

It's all about timing.
There were quite a few of these available on ebay late last year, but were all snapped up quickly at much much much much less than this sale price.
It's all about patience.  The number of times people have asked for something, which initially couldn't be gotten, only to have them turn up in droves a few months later...
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Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2017, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: jpicken on January 24, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
A different seller jumping into the game with a high opening bid. Can you blame them? Maybe they are a member here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777?)

Will be interesting to see if anyone bites at this one, with the BIN set at that number.

And how many copies start coming out of the woodwork and being listed for sale.
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Post by: Neo on January 24, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on January 24, 2017, 02:52:17 PM
Yeah, that would be a no.
I know that seller and he is a very straight up person.  No way he would be doing that.  Nor is there a roll of them waiting to be relisted.  One or two, maybe...
Two people just really wanted one I guess!  Interesting, I am guessing the 15,000+ bidder set their high bid early assuming no one would pay that much, only to have someone with too much money and not enough cents (;) ) outbid them.

It's all about timing.
There were quite a few of these available on ebay late last year, but were all snapped up quickly at much much much much less than this sale price.
It's all about patience.  The number of times people have asked for something, which initially couldn't be gotten, only to have them turn up in droves a few months later...

A similar thing has happened to me several times, in my very limited experience with auction sales.  A couple times, the low bidder never paid, and did not respond to emails, and I wondered if people thought there may have been shilling.  The worst part about that scenario is when there are several bidders in the first auction, then when the item is relisted, neither the bidders in the first auction nor any new bidders place bids as high in the relisted auction.  Ultimately the final sale price is much less than it would have been in the first auction.

Anyway, It's good to know that the seller has someone such as yourself to vouch for him, Ves.

What do you think about this Australian poster, in terms of how many were printed and/or will potentially be for sale?
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Post by: theartofmovieposters on January 25, 2017, 12:18:14 AM
All things being equal there is no question that the aussie posters are rarer than their US counterparts.  And sometimes, like in this instance they are different to the US counterpart...not always.
Would it sell so high again?  I doubt it, but you never know.
Will be interesting to see how long the second listing sits.

As to numbers, it's hit or miss.  I've had titles where months later, as said previously, they turn up in droves.  Other titles, I still can't find a single poster!
My guess is they will surface, just not right now.  The movie is still just showing here...wait it out.  For the bigger release titles, generally speaking they surface eventually...but there is no guarantee.

And Rich, what wine will yer be having with those socks ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 25, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: theartofmovieposters on January 25, 2017, 12:18:14 AM
And Rich, what wine will yer be having with those socks ;)

I want a picture of that.  C'mon Rich, shove them all in there.  It's big enough.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on January 25, 2017, 01:23:44 AM
Quote from: Neo on January 24, 2017, 09:34:42 PM
A similar thing has happened to me several times, in my very limited experience with auction sales.  A couple times, the low bidder never paid, and did not respond to emails, and I wondered if people thought there may have been shilling.  The worst part about that scenario is when there are several bidders in the first auction, then when the item is relisted, neither the bidders in the first auction nor any new bidders place bids as high in the relisted auction.  Ultimately the final sale price is much less than it would have been in the first auction.

Anyway, It's good to know that the seller has someone such as yourself to vouch for him, Ves.

What do you think about this Australian poster, in terms of how many were printed and/or will potentially be for sale?

Great points and queries, there, Mr B.

I still cant figure why this poster, with a digital image, likely produced and created in the US, would garner such numbers. But a high five to those that feel they want to pay it. It's what keeps the hobby healthy and hopping.  thumbsup.gif

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Post by: Damomac on January 25, 2017, 03:38:34 AM
i would love to know what this poster would end up selling for if it wasn't missing the top one third

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4518937
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Post by: erik1925 on January 28, 2017, 01:32:28 AM
Quote from: Damomac on January 25, 2017, 03:38:34 AM
i would love to know what this poster would end up selling for if it wasn't missing the top one third

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4518937

Well, the last one on EMP sold for a cool $5K, back in 2006.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/14617477.html
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Post by: jayn_j on January 28, 2017, 10:58:20 AM
I had been thinking about the possibilities with this pair

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4519067
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4519066

Problem is that when you combine the two and add color to the upper half, you still have a sub $100 poster.  It simply isn't worth the effort.  I suppose a possibility would be to buy both for under $10/ea and simply display the bottom of the original with the top of the re-release.
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Post by: Simes on January 28, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
How many times has this forum dedicated itself to saying, Just enjoy it?  Forget the inherent value.

Might be a way through and to having it on your wall while we are all still alive and kicking...  Maybe.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on January 28, 2017, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Simes on January 28, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
How many times has this forum dedicated itself to saying, Just enjoy it?  Forget the inherent value.

Might be a way through and to having it on your wall while we are all still alive and kicking...  Maybe.

More along the lines of whether I need another 3 sheet, and if so, probably better to wait for the right one to come along.  I gave it some thought, but in the end it didn't seem right.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 29, 2017, 12:57:44 AM
Quote from: jpicken on January 24, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
A different seller jumping into the game with a high opening bid. Can you blame them? Maybe they are a member here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777?)

Even with 8 watchers and a little under 2 days to go, until it recycles again (it is a BIN or Best offer), maybe folks are holding off, realizing that this isn't (an almost) $700.00 poster.  uhno
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Post by: Simes on January 30, 2017, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on January 28, 2017, 02:44:27 PM
More along the lines of whether I need another 3 sheet, and if so, probably better to wait for the right one to come along.  I gave it some thought, but in the end it didn't seem right.

Fair play fella.  Hope the right one turns up....
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Post by: 50s on February 01, 2017, 04:31:22 PM
Grading VG to Fine sounds dodgy. What is fine about it having pieces missing and a big water stain!
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-barefoot-contessa-united-artists-1954-one-sheet-27-x-41-drama/a/161706-51030.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-barefoot-contessa-united-artists-1954-one-sheet-27-x-41-drama/a/161706-51030.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515)
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Post by: DekeThornton on February 01, 2017, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 01, 2017, 04:31:22 PM
Grading VG to Fine sounds dodgy. What is fine about it having pieces missing and a big water stain!
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-barefoot-contessa-united-artists-1954-one-sheet-27-x-41-drama/a/161706-51030.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/the-barefoot-contessa-united-artists-1954-one-sheet-27-x-41-drama/a/161706-51030.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515)

Ava Gardner looks pretty "fine" to me!
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Post by: motsm on February 11, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
There is a linen backed, R81 Raiders of the Lost Ark poster on ebay right now, for $65 + shipping. Only major problem I see, is it has some uneven fading, mostly on the left side. It's high on my want list, and maybe I'm dumb to pass on it, but the fading is a bit much for me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-Linen-Backed-/322420805943

I was thinking it could be this poster, auctioned at emovieposter.com in 2015, what do you guys think?. http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/3592969.html
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Post by: 50s on February 11, 2017, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: motsm on February 11, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
There is a linen backed, R81 Raiders of the Lost Ark poster on ebay right now, for $65 + shipping. Only major problem I see, is it has some uneven fading, mostly on the left side. It's high on my want list, and maybe I'm dumb to pass on it, but the fading is a bit much for me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-Linen-Backed-/322420805943

I was thinking it could be this poster, auctioned at emovieposter.com in 2015, what do you guys think?. http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/3592969.html



Maybe fade it a bit on the right side to balance it up?

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: motsm on February 11, 2017, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 11, 2017, 08:39:09 PM


Maybe fade it a bit on the right side to balance it up?
So you're thinking two wrongs could make a right in this situation, heh?

It was listed a couple days ago at $75, I'm pretty surprised it didn't sell then.
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Post by: 50s on February 11, 2017, 09:03:34 PM
It doesn't look the same to me:
- edge threads different
- one has wavy wrinkles at bottom
- one has touch up right edge by credits
- most telling is linen overhang is same all sides on one, bigger at bottom than sides on the other.

I think this is left side faded variant

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: motsm on February 11, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
Quote from: 50s on February 11, 2017, 09:03:34 PM
It doesn't look the same to me:
- edge threads different
- one has wavy wrinkles at bottom
- one has touch up right edge by credits
- most telling is linen overhang is same all sides on one, bigger at bottom than sides on the other.

I think this is left side faded variant
Yeah, you are right about the linen size, they are different for sure.

By variant, are you thinking there was a run that printed with this faded look? Perhaps unintentionally?
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Post by: 50s on February 12, 2017, 03:05:47 PM
Sorry, just kidding, though seems strange the effect is on different ones

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Post by: Chris9000 on February 12, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
I see it is ended now... did you bite on it?

Quote from: motsm on February 11, 2017, 08:20:07 PM
There is a linen backed, R81 Raiders of the Lost Ark poster on ebay right now, for $65 + shipping. Only major problem I see, is it has some uneven fading, mostly on the left side. It's high on my want list, and maybe I'm dumb to pass on it, but the fading is a bit much for me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raiders-of-the-Lost-Ark-Linen-Backed-/322420805943

I was thinking it could be this poster, auctioned at emovieposter.com in 2015, what do you guys think?. http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/3592969.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: motsm on February 12, 2017, 05:03:37 PM
Quote from: Chris9000 on February 12, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
I see it is ended now... did you bite on it?
No, it was tempting, as I don't have a huge poster budget, but I'd rather spend more and get one without the fading. Looks like the seller ended the listing manually though, so who knows if it actually sold.
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Post by: Chris9000 on February 12, 2017, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: motsm on February 12, 2017, 05:03:37 PM
I'd rather spend more and get one without the fading.

Seems like the logical choice to me!  ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2017, 07:06:28 PM
+1

Good decision, methinks, too. Between the rippled backing and the fading <---which can't be fixed, you're better off waiting for a copy that's correct from to to bottom.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on February 12, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
First, what makes it "R81"?

Second, the seller says "The color is slightly lighter on the left side which may be considered a defect". Is it really "slightly" lighter, and is there anyone who wouldn't "consider it a defect"?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: motsm on February 12, 2017, 09:15:01 PM
Quote from: BruceH on February 12, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
First, what makes it "R81"?
Yeah, I misspoke, was just thinking of the R82 version, it's the 1981 poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on February 12, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: BruceH on February 12, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
Second, the seller says "The color is slightly lighter on the left side which may be considered a defect". Is it really "slightly" lighter, and is there anyone who wouldn't "consider it a defect"?


It might be considered an enhancement if it brings the price down into someone's budget


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2017, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: jpicken on January 24, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
A different seller jumping into the game with a high opening bid. Can you blame them? Maybe they are a member here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-La-Land-Original-Australian-Double-Sided-One-Sheet-movie-poster-/162369437777?)


This listing ended on 2/14/17 with no takers, looks like.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 07:05:25 PM
Im confused about what year this Belgian poster for Casablanca is actually from because the description is saying 2 different things:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4555724

First, the description states:

"We do not know exactly when it was released in Belgium, but it was released in France in 1947, and it is extremely likely that it was released in Belgium at the same time or very soon after, and this poster is from that first Belgian release."

But then further down, it states:

"...it is the small size Belgian that we have only seen on Belgian posters from during and right after World War II, but it is possible that the movie was re-released in the early 1950s, and that they printed the posters from the exact same plates, which would account for the smaller size. Please do not bid on this poster unless you can accept the uncertainty as to its year of origin."

So how can it be definitely said that it's from the first Belgian release, when there is also wording that suggests there is uncertainty about its year of origin? And if there is some question, why does the auction title say it's a first release from 1947? From the emp info, it reads like this could also be a possible, later RR.  dontknow.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2017, 08:28:25 PM
this again?
when do they learn?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 07:05:25 PM
Im confused about what year this Belgian poster for Casablanca is actually from because the description is saying 2 different things:

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4555724

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA170228/550/belgian_casablanca_linen_SD08747_T.jpg)

First, the description states:

"We do not know exactly when it was released in Belgium, but it was released in France in 1947, and it is extremely likely that it was released in Belgium at the same time or very soon after, and this poster is from that first Belgian release."

But then further down, it states:

"...it is the small size Belgian that we have only seen on Belgian posters from during and right after World War II, but it is possible that the movie was re-released in the early 1950s, and that they printed the posters from the exact same plates, which would account for the smaller size. Please do not bid on this poster unless you can accept the uncertainty as to its year of origin."

So how can it be definitely said that it's from the first Belgian release, when there is also wording that suggests there is uncertainty about its year of origin? And if there is some question, why does the auction title say it's a first release from 1947? Could this also be a possible, later RR?  dontknow.gif

Seems to me he's hedging while being as transparent as possible, which everyone does with this poster.  Some claim the only true first release poster is printed on old recycled maps.  Others claim there are original first release posters not on maps -- on normal white paper.  Both appear to have exactly the same print quality/density/colors/fine printers info/etc... But some of these seemingly exact same posters also show up in early 50s distribution (known from the tax stamp cancelation dates).  Was there a second early 50s printing using the exact same plates?  Were there left-overs from the 46/47 release that were later sent out in the early 50s?  Or are all of these from the early 50s release and printed with the same plates used to print the handful of map-back posters that have surfaced (with nearly identical output)?  I don't think anyone will ever know for sure. 

Anyways, it's one of the best Casablanca images IMO -- wish it were printed in a larger size  8)
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Post by: 50s on March 06, 2017, 08:36:12 PM
The spot of lipstick on her lower lip bothers me


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Post by: bigmike on March 06, 2017, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: 50s on March 06, 2017, 08:36:12 PM
The spot of lipstick on her lower lip bothers me

 ;D lol. I agree, it's kind of distracting.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 08:32:12 PM
Seems to me he's hedging while being as transparent as possible, which everyone does with this poster.  Some claim the only true first release poster is printed on old recycled maps.  Others claim there are original first release posters not on maps -- on normal white paper.  Both appear to have exactly the same print quality/density/colors/fine printers info/etc... But some of these seemingly exact same posters also show up in early 50s distribution (known from the tax stamp cancelation dates).  Was there a second early 50s printing using the exact same plates?  Were there left-overs from the 46/47 release that were later sent out in the early 50s?  Or are all of these from the early 50s release and printed with the same plates used to print the handful of map-back posters that have surfaced (with nearly identical output)?  I don't think anyone will ever know for sure. 

Anyways, it's one of the best Casablanca images IMO -- wish it were printed in a larger size  8)


Then it would seem to boil down to this: Do not call it a 1947 First release poster in the bold red title, and then speak about it possibly being a later RR down in the fine print.

Since this poster seems to be a bit of a mystery, shouldnt it be titled accordingly, rather than calling it something it might not be? There's no harm in that.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2017, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 09:54:23 PM

Then it would seem to boil down to this: Do not call it a 1947 First release poster in the bold red title, and then speak about it possibly being a later RR down in the fine print.

Since this poster seems to be a bit of a mystery, shouldnt it be titled accordingly, rather than calling it something it might not be? There's no harm in that.

I 1000% agree with Jeff.

if you don't know what it is, assigning a designation to it is false advertising

it totally destroys your own blabber that you're the only honest auction around.
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 09:54:23 PM

Then it would seem to boil down to this: Do not call it a 1947 First release poster in the bold red title, and then speak about it possibly being a later RR down in the fine print.

Since this poster seems to be a bit of a mystery, shouldnt it be titled accordingly, rather than calling it something it might not be? There's no harm in that.

You'd better tell HA and Christie's then too!  They both commonly list non-map-backed posters as first release also.



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2017, 11:04:22 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:00:35 PM
You'd better tell HA and Christie's then too!  They both commonly list non-map-backed posters as first release also.

size
it's the wrong size

also, the 'Joey Defense' isn't a defense
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 11:20:10 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:00:35 PM
You'd better tell HA and Christie's then too!  They both commonly list non-map-backed posters as first release also.

If HA or Christies advertised something similar that was coming up for auction, and it was seen by me or anyone else and pointed out or discussed for the same reasons, that would be a good and beneficial thing, as welll, especially for anyone that might be considering bidding on it.

Plus, I'm quite sure that both of these auction houses would appreciate being alerted to that fact.
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:26:46 PM
Seriously, if any one has info to share on this poster I'd love to hear it.  I really do wish there was more certainty surrounding this poster.  In my experience though, regardless of who is selling, sizes have varied pretty widely on nearly every copy sold:

https://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Nty=1&Ntt=casablanca+belgian&ic4=ArchiveTab-071515
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/searchresults.aspx?&searchtype=p&action=search&searchFrom=header&lid=1&entry=casablanca%20belgian
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/CASABLANCA%2520%2528%252742%2529/country/Belgian/archive.html
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Post by: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
I'm sure everyone would like a definitive answer, so when someone is bidding close to $1000.00 for something that is presented with 2 different sets of descriptive information (as well as a warning Not to bid if unsure), then an item such as this should be described AND titled appropriately, imo.

And it has been offered these times in the past as well, all with the same warning or alert Not to bid if unsure, even though they are all titled and called Belgian first releases from 1947:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5208615.html

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/13488552.html

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/9334056.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2017, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 06, 2017, 11:20:10 PM
If HA or Christies advertised something similar that was coming up for auction, and it was seen by me or anyone else and pointed out or discussed for the same reasons, that would be a good and beneficial thing, as welll, especially for anyone that might be considering bidding on it.

Plus, I'm quite sure that both of these auction houses would appreciate being alerted to that fact.

yes, definitely - except we've been here before with this exact title/poster before.
where was the lesson learned?


Quote from: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:26:46 PM
Seriously, if any one has info to share on this poster I'd love to hear it.  I really do wish there was more certainty surrounding this poster.  In my experience though, regardless of who is selling, sizes have varied pretty widely on nearly every copy sold:

https://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Nty=1&Ntt=casablanca+belgian&ic4=ArchiveTab-071515
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/searchresults.aspx?&searchtype=p&action=search&searchFrom=header&lid=1&entry=casablanca%20belgian
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/CASABLANCA%2520%2528%252742%2529/country/Belgian/archive.html

but if you look by date sort with HA, it's obvious they changed their opinion (without changing history aka sanitizing their site)

but look Matt - there is a simple rule: if you don't know what it is, yuo don't know what it is and need to find out exactly what it is before you say "this is what it is"

no amount of disclaimer would get the approval of anyone if it was at HA, MPB, MPE, Ebay, Christies, the British or French auction houses etc.

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Post by: Harry Caul on March 06, 2017, 11:57:43 PM
I just know I've done my research as best as I could figure.  Here is what I ended up with...

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/front-large_zpsrcjv196o.jpg) (http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/back-large_zpsgag24mfx.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 07, 2017, 12:01:31 AM
that was an ebay bargain. the map probably makes it hard to restore though
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 07, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Don't think I'll ever restore it on a backing (paper or linen)... but I might press it flat and sandwich it between acrylic.  I will probably also print up a border and the missing bits and float the original just barely in the middle.  Should be a cool presentation.  Been meaning to do it for years now though and still haven't found the time :)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 07, 2017, 12:24:21 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 07, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Don't think I'll ever restore it on a backing (paper or linen)... but I might press it flat and sandwich it between acrylic.  I will probably also print up a border and the missing bits and float the original just barely in the middle.  Should be a cool presentation.  Been meaning to do it for years now though and still haven't found the time :)

sounds like the right idea to me.....
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Post by: Harry Caul on March 07, 2017, 11:51:06 AM
There's really not a lot missing -- the corner is the obvious part because the angle of the photo, but it's not a hard fix. The only other missing art is about an 1" at the top of the image that is mostly made up of some Warner Bro's text and bogart's credit, and then a tiny -- if any -- sliver along the right.

Does anyone know if it's possible to back a poster on a transparent substrate (i.e. not linen or paper)?  I seem to recall Dario playing around that a few years ago.  Has anyone seen something like this done?  It would be awesome if the front of the poster could have the missing bits and borders patched in while the back would look something like this:

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/casablanca-belgian-map-back-mockup_zpscyr7k8so.jpg)

 
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Post by: Charlie on March 07, 2017, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on March 07, 2017, 11:51:06 AM
There's really not a lot missing -- the corner is the obvious part because the angle of the photo, but it's not a hard fix. The only other missing art is about an 1" at the top of the image that is mostly made up of some Warner Bro's text and bogart's credit, and then a tiny -- if any -- sliver along the right.

Does anyone know if it's possible to back a poster on a transparent substrate (i.e. not linen or paper)?  I seem to recall Dario playing around that a few years ago.  Has anyone seen something like this done?  It would be awesome if the front of the poster could have the missing bits and borders patched in while the back would look something like this:

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/casablanca-belgian-map-back-mockup_zpscyr7k8so.jpg)

Dario was trying with mylar I think for double sided posters...
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Post by: Crazy Vick on March 07, 2017, 12:13:53 PM
Alternatively you could back it on something like this

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/JU8AAOSwQJhUk8Wi/$_3.JPG)
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Post by: erik1925 on March 07, 2017, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 06, 2017, 11:34:22 PM
yes, definitely - except we've been here before with this exact title/poster before.
where was the lesson learned?


but if you look by date sort with HA, it's obvious they changed their opinion (without changing history aka sanitizing their site)

but look Matt - there is a simple rule: if you don't know what it is, yuo don't know what it is and need to find out exactly what it is before you say "this is what it is"

no amount of disclaimer would get the approval of anyone if it was at HA, MPB, MPE, Ebay, Christies, the British or French auction houses etc.


This really seems the simple way to deal with this or (or any) poster where there might be a question.

Either keep it from the auction block, or present it with what is known (or not), without attributing any "hard" facts about it, when those facts aren't known for sure. As was mentioned earlier - the dating/release of this poster seems hard to pin down, what with talk of later RR using the same art (as many RR Belgians have been created with). And not knowing for certain isnt a bad thing at all. Just be clear on that point -- was my point.

Ultimately, that's what caught my eye: the wording in the title vs the wording used further down in the description. And I thought it worthwhile to ask about, as we arent talking a 10 dollar poster here. Hopefully, the one man with the answers will chime in, at some point.
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Post by: paul waines on March 07, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
I like the way Vick thinks...    :D
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Post by: 110x75 on March 07, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: paul waines on March 07, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
I like the way Vick thinks...    :D

I like the way Paul thinks...  8)
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Post by: Neo on March 18, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
Pretty rad Japanese B1, with the silhouettes of these Bond babes, and the early 80s neon colors.



(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/meiryo035-img450x600-1489816922fhnqru23418_zps2ckypthi.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/meiryo035-img450x600-1489816922fhnqru23418_zps2ckypthi.jpg.html)
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n205268112 (http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n205268112)

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Post by: erik1925 on March 20, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Cool colors, there, B.

What makes this a Japanese poster? it looks to be entirely in English. Or is it a possible export?

As compared to these B1s:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/OCTOPUSSY/tag/nation%253AJapan/tag/xtype%253AJapanese%2520B1%2520poster/archive.html
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Post by: Neo on March 20, 2017, 03:12:28 PM
Good question.  I was just going from the seller's description.  It would be cool if any Bond and/or Japanese experts would chime in.


He/she has several other Bond posters, that appear to be legit theater releases.

http://sellinglist.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/user/meiryo035 (http://sellinglist.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/user/meiryo035)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 20, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
it could be a Japanese export poster, or even one of those non-theatre Japanese posters. Is there an Eirin mark?
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Post by: Hicks77 on March 20, 2017, 08:30:37 PM
Just took a quick look at the listing, the seller says that this poster was displayed in a theater about 6 months before the movie was released.  Goes on to say "poster is very rare, not many printed, not many in circulation "etc....
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Post by: jayn_j on March 21, 2017, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Hicks77 on March 20, 2017, 08:30:37 PM
Just took a quick look at the listing, the seller says that this poster was displayed in a theater about 6 months before the movie was released.  Goes on to say "poster is very rare, not many printed, not many in circulation "etc....

Sellers say a lot of things.  Take this with a very large grain of salt unless you can find independent confirmation.
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Post by: jayn_j on March 21, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
Quote from: Hicks77 on March 20, 2017, 08:30:37 PM
Just took a quick look at the listing, the seller says that this poster was displayed in a theater about 6 months before the movie was released.  Goes on to say "poster is very rare, not many printed, not many in circulation "etc....

Sellers say a lot of things.  Take this with a very large grain of salt unless you can find independent confirmation.
Do an image search on google.  I found these
http://www.moviepostershop.com/octopussy-movie-poster-1983/AD6984
http://www.scifi-movies.com/english/poster-0003909-5-octopussy-1983.htm
among others.
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Post by: crowzilla on March 21, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 20, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Cool colors, there, B.

What makes this a Japanese poster? it looks to be entirely in English. Or is it a possible export?


Why would the Japanese make an export poster of an English movie? Where are they exporting it to?

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Post by: erik1925 on March 21, 2017, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 21, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
Why would the Japanese make an export poster of an English movie? Where are they exporting it to?

I had that same question... but i was also basing it on the way these 4 Thai posters were described. They are called Thai, but totally printed in English, are not the usual size of a Thai poster and described as exports made for English speaking countries. (Why would Thailand be doing this, too?)

I didnt quite get it either, but that was the basis of my question on the Bond poster mentioned above.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/7003416.html

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/3807126.html

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/10534206.html



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Post by: Hicks77 on March 21, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
I found this one, which is definitely Japanese with similar art.
(http://bond.web.idv.hk/bond/image/delta/otpsjp.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on March 21, 2017, 02:49:06 PM
Japanese love to use English in their advertising - be in movie posters, train ads or on television.
This is a B1 poster, a size only the Japanese use.
It's a Japanese advance, made to display in Japan.
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Post by: Hicks77 on March 21, 2017, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 20, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
it could be a Japanese export poster, or even one of those non-theatre Japanese posters. Is there an Eirin mark?
This links to the same image but not from the auction listing so I don't know what the dimensions are.  There isn't an Eirin mark.
http://blog-imgs-73-origin.fc2.com/s/t/r/strangways/1983-octopussy-poster1.jpg (http://blog-imgs-73-origin.fc2.com/s/t/r/strangways/1983-octopussy-poster1.jpg)

(http://blog-imgs-73-origin.fc2.com/s/t/r/strangways/1983-octopussy-poster1.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 21, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 21, 2017, 02:08:52 PM
Why would the Japanese make an export poster of an English movie? Where are they exporting it to?

you have spoken to me about Japanese export posters haven't you?
the guy was describing it as a Japanese poster and I have no other idea why that could be.
Of course, you know better than anyone that Japanese posters are not my area of expertise
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 21, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
It is in the Japanese bond poster book as well. Have seen this a few times.
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Post by: Neo on March 22, 2017, 01:57:18 AM
Interesting.  Since the B1 I mentioned is in the Bond poster book, per Dale, that means it was definitely used for theater display, despite its lack of an Eirin mark?
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Post by: Neo on March 22, 2017, 02:05:01 AM
Hideyuki, aka movieposter-japan! on eBay, has a lot of exploitation Japanese posters up for auction.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/movieposter-japan%21 (http://www.ebay.com/usr/movieposter-japan%21)
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Post by: Hicks77 on March 22, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
Quote from: Neo on March 18, 2017, 04:43:53 PM
Pretty rad Japanese B1, with the silhouettes of these Bond babes, and the early 80s neon colors.



(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/meiryo035-img450x600-1489816922fhnqru23418_zps2ckypthi.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/meiryo035-img450x600-1489816922fhnqru23418_zps2ckypthi.jpg.html)
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n205268112 (http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n205268112)
It sold for about $700.
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Post by: Neo on March 22, 2017, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: Hicks77 on March 22, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
It sold for about $700.

 clap  Not too shabby, eh?

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Post by: Simes on March 23, 2017, 08:43:50 AM
Cough!
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Post by: eatbrie on March 24, 2017, 12:18:20 AM
Just finished checking Heritage upcoming Sig auction.  Some great stuff there, but most of what I want is linenbacked  devil 2 so I'll pass on a lot of stuff, almost everything really, which is alright since I'll be skiing all weekend. 

The few that I still want to get... hoping I can get some signal from the slopes...   potroll.gif

T
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Post by: Neo on March 25, 2017, 02:59:36 PM
A lot of interesting stuff at Heritage.  From the popular titles like Casablanca, to the more obscure from the 1910s, etc.   pcorn

The auctioneer has a few tidbits of info., mixed in with his commodian skit.    notlistening.gif


T, how is the snow wherever you are this time of the season?
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Post by: eatbrie on March 25, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
I'm in Mammoth for the weekend.  Great snow.  At lunch right now, but I did manage to win two things this morning.  Reception was spotty at best but it worked.  I went by numbers and tried to figure out when my numbers would pop up without checking the phone.  I was pretty accurate, even though I did miss out on a dozen other items.  Priorities, right?

T
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Post by: Neo on March 25, 2017, 10:02:55 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 25, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
I'm in Mammoth for the weekend.  Great snow.  At lunch right now, but I did manage to win two things this morning.  Reception was spotty at best but it worked.  I went by numbers and tried to figure out when my numbers would pop up without checking the phone.  I was pretty accurate, even though I did miss out on a dozen other items.  Priorities, right?

T

Good to hear that Mammoth Mountain has good snow.  Congrats on the wins. 
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Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2017, 01:50:31 AM
Hey Brandon, and all:

Currently available as a BIN for $400K or Make an Offer---

 bed1 bed1 bed1

Todd Feiertag's copy of The Invisible Man teaser:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-INVISIBLE-MAN-1933-CLAUDE-RAINS-TEASER-ONE-SHEET-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/152455038344?hash=item237f074588:g:CPkAAOSwo4pYFPy8

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CPkAAOSwo4pYFPy8/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on March 26, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 26, 2017, 01:50:31 AM
Hey Brandon, and all:

Currently available as a BIN for $400K or Make an Offer---

I mean if you aren't going to sell something you might as well not sell it for 50% more than the record price it just sold for.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 26, 2017, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 26, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
I mean if you aren't going to sell something you might as well not sell it for 50% more than the record price it just sold for.

Maybe he will take a best offer of $260K..  ;D

 qip
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 31, 2017, 09:59:32 PM
wow.. here's a dynamite piece

Heritage selling a 1918 24-sheet for Over the Top, a classic war film.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/war/over-the-top-vitagraph-1918-24-sheet-104-x-232-war/a/161714-51332.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 31, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
this is really a great design

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/over_the_top.jpeg)
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Post by: wormie on April 04, 2017, 12:31:05 PM
This is an R76 Peter Pan right? http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4583019

I do not have any duplicates for most of my posters, but I do have three R76 and three R69 and one R58, in similar or better shape. I probably will let all of them go for that price.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on April 04, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
A BIN of $16,000.00 for 177 B/W stills from The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.

Is this a good deal? Or way too high? I don't have a clue.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-GOOD-THE-BAD-THE-UGLY-original-177-photos-stills-1966-Sergio-Leone-Eastwood/351701009020?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D6b6d62e9aac74a3a8cce0b4de3fe7441%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352018718564

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0RoAAOSwJQdXBVn9/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: jayn_j on April 04, 2017, 05:09:32 PM
That's $90/still.  Good film, but way too high.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 04, 2017, 05:19:19 PM
Thanks, Jay. I never thought to quickly do the math. At that per photo price, it becomes much clearer: WAY too high. faint2.gif

And yes, it's a really good movie, for sure.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on April 04, 2017, 05:40:39 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on April 04, 2017, 05:09:32 PM
That's $90/still.  Good film, but way too high.

I think 90 is too high, but they are probably country of origin (seller is in Italy)

if Heritage had them, I think they would get 5-10k for the lot
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Post by: eatbrie on April 06, 2017, 08:21:04 PM
Too many people bidding on posters is all I have to say.

Calm down people!!!

T
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Post by: Neo on April 07, 2017, 03:24:15 AM
Great poster...that snipe, though...painted, and translated in French: "the player without shame."(?)



(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/hustlerf_zpshzgayqao.png) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/hustlerf_zpshzgayqao.png.html)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4592245 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4592245)
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Post by: guest4531 on April 07, 2017, 04:07:05 AM
Same story for this one  -  http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4592300 

And whoever wrote this doesn't know French very well :) It should have been "au" (singular form) and not "aux"  (plural form) (http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA170406/550/30x40_sleeping_beauty_SD09288_L.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 04, 2017, 09:33:11 PM
Coming up on May 27th, through hollywoodposterauction.com, this Romanian poster for The Man Who Laughs (1928).

Opening bid/reserve is $4000.00

Estimate is $6-12K

Such a great poster imho.  bed1

(sorry for the slightly blurry pic)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/MWL1_zpsfr3emy8u.jpg)


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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 07, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
I advised Heritage that the Buck Rogers poster at this link was incorrectly described (it was not a 1940 release poster, it was a 1960s poster done by comics reprint guy Ed April.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/serial/buck-rogers-famous-funnies-1940-newstand-poster-165-x-215-serial/a/161719-51053.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

Heritage cancelled all bids & removed the item from the auction
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2017, 01:57:31 AM
Not an auction but an active BIN/ obo.

Why would this Japanese B1 size poster be priced at $1200.00? The film, In The Mood For Love, is from 2000 and is a basic photographic design. Is this a rare poster?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-the-Mood-for-Love-2000-Japanese-B1-Poster-/142034763772?hash=item2111ee7ffc:g:UuoAAOSwvg9XbEAe

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6138;image)
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Post by: Tob on May 14, 2017, 02:53:10 AM
$1200 is obviously dealer pricing, but this is one of my favourite posters for one of my favourite films. An elegant design that is perfectly in tone with the film.

IMO, whether it is photographic or illustrated has no bearing on the appeal (of this, or any other poster). Good design is good design.
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Post by: Neo on May 14, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
That's Posteritati's eBay.  The pricing is bbout on par with Cinemasterpieces, in many cases, in markup over fair market value.
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Post by: crowzilla on May 14, 2017, 04:21:25 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 14, 2017, 01:57:31 AM
Why would this Japanese B1 size poster be priced at $1200.00? The film, In The Mood For Love, is from 2000 and is a basic photographic design. Is this a rare poster?

It's pretty tough (and desirable) in that size. Bruce has gotten $300+ for it each time he's offered one (no matter condition). I sold a B2 with 4 pieces of tape on it last year for $125, and would think a really nice B1 would sell in the $500 range.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2017, 12:24:04 PM
Thanks, guys. So aside from the hefty markup on this particular copy, it sounds like it's a bit of a rare bird, especially in the B1 size.

cheers
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Post by: marklawd on May 14, 2017, 04:37:21 PM
This is a very stylish poster and I can also see it having cross-over appeal to an interior designer looking for a focal point in a room in that colour.

Mark
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Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Todd Feiertag once again has a selection of things listed on eBay, including many of his classic Universal horror heavy hitters:  notworthy.gif

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_ipg=200&_ssn=toddfeiertag&_sop=16
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Post by: Louie D. on May 30, 2017, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 29, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
Todd Feiertag once again has a selection of things listed on eBay, including many of his classic Universal horror heavy hitters:  notworthy.gif

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_ipg=200&_ssn=toddfeiertag&_sop=16

Yeah but he's a flaming asshole and no one is going to buy at those prices so who cares.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2017, 09:28:05 PM
I've had several conversations with him over the years when I had Universal horror poster questions and he was happy to answer questions as well as pleasant to talk to, each and every time.
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Post by: Louie D. on May 30, 2017, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 30, 2017, 09:28:05 PM
I've had several conversations with him over the years when I had Universal horror poster questions and he was happy to answer questions as well as pleasant to talk to, each and every time.

OK
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Post by: erik1925 on May 31, 2017, 01:02:51 AM
Maybe you caught him on a bad day?  confounded.gif   gun1 imbecile.gif  dontknow.gif
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Post by: Neo on May 31, 2017, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 31, 2017, 01:02:51 AM
Maybe you caught him on a bad day?  confounded.gif   gun1 imbecile.gif

 rofl1

It's clear that his prices are exorbitantly high, but why would Louie throw an epithet like "he's a flaming as*****", with no explanation?  starz.gif

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Post by: Louie D. on June 01, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: Neo on May 31, 2017, 03:14:56 PM
It's clear that his prices are exorbitantly high, but why would Louie throw an epithet like "he's a flaming as*****", with no explanation?  starz.gif

Why would you think, Nobel Laureate?
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Post by: Neo on June 01, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on June 01, 2017, 09:49:41 AM
Why would you think, Nobel Laureate?

Well, even Nobel prize winners surely have some people who dislike them, for some reason(s).  In this case, someone made an interesting post, about some of the rarest and most highly coveted stuff, and your great contribution was a one liner calling the seller a "flaming a******."   I was simply asking why someone would say that about him.  As usual though, your comment and follow ups were trolling, and I took the bait.  My mistake.
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Post by: Louie D. on June 01, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 01, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Well, even Nobel prize winners surely have some people who dislike them, for some reason(s).  In this case, someone made an interesting post, about some of the rarest and most highly coveted stuff, and your great contribution was a one liner calling the seller a "flaming a******."   I was simply asking why someone would say that about him.  As usual though, your comment and follow ups were trolling, and I took the bait.  My mistake.

I thought my "flaming asshole" statement would be enough. Obviously you can't read into what people write.
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Post by: Neo on June 01, 2017, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on June 01, 2017, 04:31:46 PM
I thought my "flaming asshole" statement would be enough. Obviously you can't read into what people write.

Frankly I've never heard anything bad about the guy, and your one liner and follow ups are not very in depth commentaries about why you would call him that.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Quote from: Neo on June 01, 2017, 05:42:12 PM
Frankly I've never heard anything bad about the guy, and your one liner and follow ups are not very in depth commentaries about why you would call him that.

I like Todd, but that is not a universal feeling about him.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 07, 2017, 01:40:26 PM
Star Wars seems to be doing okay these days...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4286/35120395856_afa6d91dee_o.png)

T
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Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2017, 01:46:17 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 01, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
I like Todd, but that is not a universal feeling about him.

No pun intended, right?  ;D

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6419;image)

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Post by: guest4955 on June 07, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
So what's the rule on outing mid-auction nowadays?

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/LIVING/personal/07/21/lw.dark.secrets.dating/art.dark.secrets.dating.lw.gi.jpg)
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Post by: 50s on June 07, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
Rule is - Mel can't

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Post by: eatbrie on June 07, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: 50s on June 07, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
Rule is - Mel can't

 thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
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Post by: eatbrie on June 07, 2017, 10:59:21 PM
Who is the 70mm guy?  I mean, does he just like spending money for spending money?  Is he a dealer? Anyone knows?

T
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Post by: 50s on June 07, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 07, 2017, 10:59:21 PM
Who is the 70mm guy?

Hope this doesn't refer to his manhood

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Post by: Damomac on June 08, 2017, 01:02:11 AM
I doubt he/she is a dealer as some of the prices he pays are far beyond what a dealer could expect to receive from a fully priced retail sale. Just a guy with deep pockets who want's an instant collection. Great for the hobby, unless you are bidding against him of course.

I have seen him bit against Galaxy a few times and they were pushing prices to crazy levels - $400 for a lost in translation quad.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 08, 2017, 01:34:37 AM
And whoever 70MM is, he/she has been around and bidding on emp quite a while, too, taking no prisoners in the bidding battles.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
What a great looking Realart RR51 scene LC (#7), from The Mummy's Ghost being offered by Jim Gresham, for a BIN of $879.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUMMYS-GHOST-R-51-MINT-REALART-CARD-ONE-OF-THE-BEST-REALART-SCENES-EVER/263015016798?_trksid=p2047675.c100037.m2107&_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3Ddb3c7ca9725b4eec88d623f12cdc41c3%26pid%3D100037%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D261876488795

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6463;image)
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Post by: Chris9000 on June 12, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 08, 2017, 01:34:37 AM
And whoever 70MM is, he/she has been around and bidding on emp quite a while, too, taking no prisoners in the bidding battles.

He/She is all over Bruce's "Major" OS linen auction with some high bids as well... be curious to watch how high they go on some of these.
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Post by: jayn_j on June 12, 2017, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: Chris9000 on June 12, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
He/She is all over Bruce's "Major" OS linen auction with some high bids as well... be curious to watch how high they go on some of these.

When I see 70mm step in, I expect to be outbid these days.  My current nemesis is onesheet.  Unfortunately, (s)he doesn't stick with one sheets.  I win some and lose some there.  One particular lobby in Bruce's major has had the gauntlet thrown down, but I fully intend to stand firm.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
you should be happy that there are still people willing to pay good prices for posters. Most of the hobby is made of buyers and bidders looking for the cheapest price possible and it's difficult to make a profitable business selling $10 posters or especially $1 posters for 99.9999% of people.

don't forget that someday you may all want to sell your collections also, and as Mel pointed out, he was in for $137k and when he got out, he got back $95k and when you consider his collection was not largely inexpensive posters, that is by itself, a message to what you can expect when you sell out.

Sean and I have had this discussion many times and with the exceptions of material we bought many many moons ago, neither of us expects to break even on our own collections. So when there is a buyer or two or three willing to pay good prices, it isn't just better for the seller of that item - it's good for the entirety of the hobby
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Post by: jayn_j on June 12, 2017, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
Sean and I have had this discussion many times and with the exceptions of material we bought many many moons ago, neither of us expects to break even on our own collections. So when there is a buyer or two or three willing to pay good prices, it isn't just better for the seller of that item - it's good for the entirety of the hobby

And the long time collectors need to look at the overall collection.  Yeah, I have a Star Wars 1 sheet I bought for $20, but I probably have 10 '70s comedies that are now worth nothing.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 12, 2017, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: Chris9000 on June 12, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
He/She is all over Bruce's "Major" OS linen auction with some high bids as well... be curious to watch how high they go on some of these.

For sure.

And see what kind of "poster battles" might erupt in the process.
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Post by: guest4955 on June 12, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2017, 03:44:55 PM
and as Mel pointed out, he was in for $137k and when he got out, he got back $95k and when you consider his collection was not largely inexpensive posters, that is by itself, a message to what you can expect when you sell out.

Yeah I lost 50K over 5.5 years in Round 1 - inc. 8K on abandoned frames & misc. - but it is certain I would have otherwise blown that money on a depreciating asset like a fancy car, expensive vacations, etc. If I had lived in "normal" America I might have bought a house, but the cost was $650K in DC - $1,000,000+ in the best areas - way beyond my income level/savings. (Everybody I knew who bought were married couples with two six-figure salaries and/or family help.)

And I had a lot of fun in Round 1:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/FilmFun1924-04_zpspsvsnhxc.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/FilmFun1924-04_zpspsvsnhxc.jpg.html)
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Post by: eatbrie on June 12, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 12, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
And I had a lot of fun in Round 1:

And that, folks, is what it's all about.  Not money.  Money should be irrelevant as long as you enjoy yourself.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 12, 2017, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on June 12, 2017, 04:32:03 PM
And the long time collectors need to look at the overall collection.  Yeah, I have a Star Wars 1 sheet I bought for $20, but I probably have 10 '70s comedies that are now worth nothing.

totally

Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 12, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
Yeah I lost 50K over 5.5 years in Round 1 - inc. 8K on abandoned frames & misc. - but it is certain I would have otherwise blown that money on a depreciating asset like a fancy car, expensive vacations, etc. If I had lived in "normal" America I might have bought a house, but the cost was $650K in DC - $1,000,000+ in the best areas - way beyond my income level/savings. (Everybody I knew who bought were married couples with two six-figure salaries and/or family help.)

And I had a lot of fun in Round 1

exactly. you had fun. that other buyer with lots of money is also having fun.

Quote from: eatbrie on June 12, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
And that, folks, is what it's all about.  Not money.  Money should be irrelevant as long as you enjoy yourself.

T

correct. I enjoy my collection and every piece I add to it. Although, 'irrelevant' is more how we snobs look at cash. Again, for those lower on the scale, money has a far different meaning. Most people you meet during the day need that $100 for living more than we do for a Star Wars poster.
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Post by: Damomac on June 15, 2017, 03:21:49 AM
It's the 70mmWIDESCREEN show in Bruce's major auction, interesting to see how many "wins" he/she ends up with.
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Post by: Simes on June 15, 2017, 04:56:17 AM
With that many interests, ie ongoing bids, I wonder how s/he manages to monitor the last five minutes worth of activity for extended bidding etc.

(Unless of course, max bids are placed on all and just left to providence...)
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Post by: jayn_j on June 15, 2017, 07:47:52 AM
Quote from: Simes on June 15, 2017, 04:56:17 AM
With that many interests, ie ongoing bids, I wonder how s/he manages to monitor the last five minutes worth of activity for extended bidding etc.

(Unless of course, max bids are placed on all and just left to providence...)

Get a feeling that price is not an issue with him.  Places nuclear bids and sits back.  I notice that he only bid on the items closing today.  You will probably see his bids for Sunday items Sat night.

I also look at his choices and see he is only bidding on status items.  He has been around a few years, and he must have some of these items.  Dealer?  Speculator?
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 15, 2017, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: Simes on June 15, 2017, 04:56:17 AM
With that many interests, ie ongoing bids, I wonder how s/he manages to monitor the last five minutes worth of activity for extended bidding etc.

(Unless of course, max bids are placed on all and just left to providence...)

This has to be a dealer, keep bidding on same titles over and over ala JAWS1975 or whatever that ID was. Probably same person.  Bet they get a kick out of the speculation who they are.
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on June 15, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on June 12, 2017, 03:23:26 PM
When I see 70mm step in, I expect to be outbid these days.  My current nemesis is onesheet.  Unfortunately, (s)he doesn't stick with one sheets.  I win some and lose some there.  One particular lobby in Bruce's major has had the gauntlet thrown down, but I fully intend to stand firm.

Isn't this chap WaltfilmUSA (or something like that) on Ebay? Reason I think it's him is he outbid me on a Laura 1sheet at Emovie a while back and a month later he added a Laura 1sheet. I's possible it's pure coincidence.

Marc
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Post by: hepcatpunk on June 15, 2017, 06:19:50 PM
I really liked that Rocky one sheet a lot better last Thursday prior to any bids.  Holy cow.
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Post by: Devon70 on June 15, 2017, 07:48:22 PM
I used to collect coins until the investors came in and ran/priced out the middle class people like me. There was a big fall in the market a couple of years ago because when prices started dropping, the middle people aren't there to provide a floor and buy. Of course if you're wealthy it doesn't matter but price does matter for the vast majority of collectors. Just my experience from being in another hobby.
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Post by: guest4955 on June 15, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on June 15, 2017, 06:19:50 PM
I really liked that Rocky one sheet a lot better last Thursday prior to any bids.  Holy cow.

An ugly B&W photo poster for sure only a mother could love.
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Post by: Neo on June 16, 2017, 02:25:53 AM
Rocky is truly an iconic work, and it's cool to see such a rare 1S.

This image really captures the tenacity of Rocky, goes with the similar black and white theme of the regular 1S, etc.

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/rockydr_zpsw09c4kag.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/rockydr_zpsw09c4kag.jpg.html)

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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 16, 2017, 03:53:52 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on June 15, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
Isn't this chap WaltfilmUSA (or something like that) on Ebay? Reason I think it's him is he outbid me on a Laura 1sheet at Emovie a while back and a month later he added a Laura 1sheet. I's possible it's pure coincidence.

Marc

unlikely. Walter isn't buying multiple copies of anything
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Post by: guest4955 on June 18, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Very curious what this breathtaking Scarlet Empress will bring once the bidding brawl ends:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg.html)

My bet? 16.5K.....
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Post by: Starling on June 18, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
I wish someone could get the story of how these great 1934 unbacked posters came to market.
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Post by: guest4955 on June 18, 2017, 01:48:45 PM
Quote from: Starling on June 18, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
I wish someone could get the story of how these great 1934 unbacked posters came to market.

Which others? I'm curious....

(http://littlefun.org/uploads/5265c53fe691b2086daec5ab_736.jpg)

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Post by: Starling on June 18, 2017, 02:02:18 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 18, 2017, 01:48:45 PM
Which others? I'm curious....

(http://littlefun.org/uploads/5265c53fe691b2086daec5ab_736.jpg)

Heritage has like 7 unbacked pristine posters from 1934 in this auction (thin man, bolero, spitfire, riptide, and a few more).

Beautiful unbacked posters everyone. Which is rare for a 1934 poster.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 18, 2017, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 18, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Very curious what this breathtaking Scarlet Empress will bring once the bidding brawl ends:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg.html)

My bet? 16.5K.....

In looking at the super sized image of this poster, specifically Dietrich, it almost looks like her face is a photo (the base image) that was then retouched /embellished with all that beautiful color, and with the added drawn elements around her head and elsewhere on the lower parts of the poster. (1930s version of photoshopping  ;) ). From the smaller image, I thought it was stone lithography.

Here's a detail of just her face. It was the look of her eyes which made me think this:

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6555;image)

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Post by: crowzilla on June 18, 2017, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 18, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Very curious what this breathtaking Scarlet Empress will bring once the bidding brawl ends:

My bet? 16.5K.....

One would think that would be an incredibly low price for this piece.
It is easily better (and more important) than Song of Songs and should bring Morocco-level type money and bidding.
(especially considering there are several Morocco one-sheets known, while this might well be unique).
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Post by: erik1925 on June 18, 2017, 03:05:30 PM
Up to $14,700+ with a little over an hour to go.

Might 70MM swoop in for the kill?  >:D
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Post by: erik1925 on June 18, 2017, 03:09:29 PM
Currently at $4500.00 - just the cover of the pressbook for Bride of Frank. I wonder if it will go any higher?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4669917

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6557;image)
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Post by: guest4955 on June 18, 2017, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 18, 2017, 02:58:46 PM
One would think that would be an incredibly low price for this piece.
It is easily better (and more important) than Song of Songs and should bring Morocco-level type money and bidding.
(especially considering there are several Morocco one-sheets known, while this might well be unique).

Thanks for the heads-up Sean. This stellar beauty sold for $40k in 2016 at HA:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%203.10.14%20PM_zpsi4uvfq5u.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%203.10.14%20PM_zpsi4uvfq5u.jpg.html)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 18, 2017, 03:15:09 PM
And a beautiful stone litho, to boot!  cool1
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Post by: guest4955 on June 18, 2017, 03:45:21 PM
$20K with 30 mins to go, already blowing away the Frankie-RR.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tGe3JE5IU)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 18, 2017, 04:18:29 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 18, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Very curious what this breathtaking Scarlet Empress will bring once the bidding brawl ends:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Screen%20Shot%202017-06-18%20at%201.20.35%20PM_zpsjvo4pk2e.jpg.html)

My bet? 16.5K.....

Will it break $30K in these last minutes??
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Post by: hepcatpunk on June 20, 2017, 05:24:00 PM
Do our resident Bond collectors have this?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4672627 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4672627)

$11K w/ just under 3 hours left!  Impressive.
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Post by: erik1925 on June 20, 2017, 09:35:24 PM
Going up for bid in just a couple days, on 6/22, this poster for Fritz Lang's M (1931).

This 2 sheet poster measures 37 x 82.75 inches.

Opening bid: $36,000.00
Estimate: $40-50K

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/m.-1931.-C9B4E9B8CC

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6581;image)
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Post by: Simes on June 21, 2017, 05:18:53 AM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on June 20, 2017, 05:24:00 PM
Do our resident Bond collectors have this?

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4672627 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4672627)

$11K w/ just under 3 hours left!  Impressive.

I do!  But 'bloody hell'!  What an incredible price it achieved....
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Post by: guest4955 on June 21, 2017, 02:21:22 PM
Quote from: Simes on June 21, 2017, 05:18:53 AM
I do!  But 'bloody hell'!  What an incredible price it achieved....

How about posting a pic of yours?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 21, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 21, 2017, 02:21:22 PM
How about posting a pic of yours?

is it going to look different?

 :P
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Post by: Simes on June 22, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
Yes, that is the problem with many main stream posters on sites such as these.  The images are already rather well known.

To this end, I would 'say' I have bought a Russia quad, but if anything unusual pops up, I would thus pop it up.  To wit, I have some very unusual South African lobby cards for Russia coming soon.  And these will be added to this site.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 22, 2017, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 21, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
is it going to look different?

 :P

Rich, expect a visit from one or more of my pals to "deal" with your rudeness:

(http://www.magic1059.com.au/images/pussy_galore.jpg)

(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2015/09/Oddjob.jpg)

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140911075306-richard-kiel-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 22, 2017, 09:03:36 PM
Pussy Galore has been here many times. She always leaves with a smile..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 22, 2017, 09:42:28 PM
I get the message, ha-ha....

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/GW653H571_zpstqbyouqy.jpg)
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Post by: ddilts399 on June 22, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Damn bond collectors... does it say November.. November 6.. Coming Soon .. or 2 days after tomorrow on the bottom of the poster, and is the first letter capital or lower case  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on June 23, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
That might be addressed to me....ahem.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 24, 2017, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 20, 2017, 09:35:24 PM
Going up for bid in just a couple days, on 6/22, this poster for Fritz Lang's M (1931).

This 2 sheet poster measures 37 x 82.75 inches.

Opening bid: $36,000.00
Estimate: $40-50K

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/m.-1931.-C9B4E9B8CC

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6581;image)

Looks like the M 2 sheet poster went unsold.

http://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/lot_C9B4E9B8CC
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Post by: Simes on June 28, 2017, 05:14:43 AM
This guy is big on self promotion...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bond-poster-/282545866538?hash=item41c90bc72a:g:aBQAAOSwSlBY29xv
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 28, 2017, 08:58:14 AM
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Mind%20Reader_zps7r2a2tdq.jpg)

Never envisioned this sublime MP coming up for auction (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-sin-of-nora-moran-majestic-1933-one-sheet-27-x-41-alberto-vargas-artwork/p/7162-115001.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515) and with such a low HA estimate ($3-6K, presumably due to its "Good" rating). Art by Alberto Vargas:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Sin%20of%20Nora%20Moran%20The%201933%20US%201S_zps22vyo1ud.jpeg)
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Post by: Neo on June 29, 2017, 12:15:22 PM
This guy on eBay UK has some rad stuff, from the video store days of yore.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/harrymonk-uk (http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/harrymonk-uk)


These standees are probably pretty darn rare:

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/cs_zpsxuy1dbks.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/cs_zpsxuy1dbks.jpg.html)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/cs2_zpsypdcpx3b.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/cs2_zpsypdcpx3b.jpg.html)

A very rare UK video format, for what some people say is the best artwork for Top Gun:

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/cs3_zpsdiwl5gn9.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/cs3_zpsdiwl5gn9.jpg.html)
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Post by: erik1925 on June 29, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
Im liking the Creepshow standee, Brandon.  cool1

Looks like it's got 5 bids and it's up to £26.00

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREEPSHOW-VIDEO-SHOP-DISPLAY-STANDEE-PRE-CERT-INTEREST-/311904263847?hash=item489ef15ea7:g:tnUAAOSwN2VZUSrd
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on June 29, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
LOVE that Creepshow standee (although the art looks nothing like the movie itself...)!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on June 29, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
I was just checking Emovie's upcoming auction, the one ending today, and I cannot understand why so many modern posters are in fair, good, even good to very good condition.  They should all be mint.  They're new, right?  What do people do with their posters?  And people still buy them.  What do I know.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4531 on June 30, 2017, 04:00:02 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 29, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
I was just checking Emovie's upcoming auction, the one ending today, and I cannot understand why so many modern posters are in fair, good, even good to very good condition.  They should all be mint.  They're new, right?  What do people do with their posters?  And people still buy them.  What do I know.

T

I wonder too...

... like sexploitation fan having orgies on floor cover of posters

... or horror fan slashing their surrounding with cutter knives  faint2.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on June 30, 2017, 10:34:16 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 29, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
I was just checking Emovie's upcoming auction, the one ending today, and I cannot understand why so many modern posters are in fair, good, even good to very good condition.  They should all be mint.  They're new, right?  What do people do with their posters?  And people still buy them.  What do I know.

T

Don't understand the fair, but I do understand the VG ones.  These are the posters that actually got hung in the theater, as opposed to the never touched NIB stuff.

To each his own.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 30, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 29, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
I was just checking Emovie's upcoming auction, the one ending today, and I cannot understand why so many modern posters are in fair, good, even good to very good condition.  They should all be mint.  They're new, right?  What do people do with their posters?  And people still buy them.  What do I know.

T

I bought 8 "beauty photo" MPs in that auction, most for just a few dollars. Buying en masse saves big bucks on shipping. All were graded as VG/G but appear VF/NM to me after inspecting the XL images. So EMP undergrades its MPs IMO.  Here's the "good" Catwoman, which has only minor edge fraying in the upper right which will be covered by my frames:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/1_zpsl1vljjnf.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/2_zpstmkngxtr.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/3_zpsgxynf0ur.jpg)


PS As I recall, BH claimed $9 overhead per sold poster, so they should charge $10 min. HA charges $20 min. MPB $3.MPE $10
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Post by: guest4955 on June 30, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
HA's SIG starts in a week, here are the mega-bucks MPS, which most of us can't afford.

No you are not dreaming you see TWO DAYBILLS near the top, which are actually terrific IMO. Normally, daybills are ha-ha:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Jabba_zpsghzcdrr3.jpg)

*****

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/4_zpsvwcwrsfu.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/3_zpsjlwyortz.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/2_zps7nrolnac.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/1_zpsttggsnky.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on June 30, 2017, 03:14:40 PM
I haven't looked at it yet, will do so a couple days before the auction, but I'm excited.  Some of my better pieces come from the sig auction.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on June 30, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
As per usual, HA has so many rare and beautious pieces once again being offered in the upcoming Sig Auction.

Should be another exciting one to watch and partake in.  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on June 30, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 30, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
PS As I recall, BH claimed $9 overhead per sold poster, so they should charge $10 min. HA charges $20 min. MPB $3.MPE $10

We debunked that fallacy a few months ago. Bruce wasn't pleased that someone called him out on it.
It was all math based and basically at the numbers Bruce always throws around, his employees would each have to do a year and a half's worth of labor to produce a year's worth of auctions.

You can have fun and read it http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html) if you would like.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on June 30, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
There are quite a few incredible posters in that HA Sig Auction.  I'm definitely looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 30, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
We debunked that fallacy a few months ago. Bruce wasn't pleased that someone called him out on it.
It was all math based and basically at the numbers Bruce always throws around, his employees would each have to do a year and a half's worth of labor to produce a year's worth of auctions.

You can have fun and read it http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html) if you would like.

and Mel even got an honorable mention, in absentia
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.msg215097.html#msg215097
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 30, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
and Mel even got an honorable mention, in absentia
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.msg215097.html#msg215097

Don't know why peeps say I was batsh*t crazy in Round 1, just cuz I spent a gazillion hours on the hobby - which I should have spent chasing the 1 million+ single femmes in DC - and somehow managed to lose $50K on it despite being a 5 SuperStar Collector.

I would note that particular punch was thrown by the Daybill King Pimp Daddy, so his judgement is askew....

(http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp111/ehholden/2212492404_8b3b02e4d7_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on June 30, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 30, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
We debunked that fallacy a few months ago. Bruce wasn't pleased that someone called him out on it.
It was all math based and basically at the numbers Bruce always throws around, his employees would each have to do a year and a half's worth of labor to produce a year's worth of auctions.

You can have fun and read it http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11746.0.html) if you would like.

Rather than wading through four pages of posts on this issue, I'll just concede I'm clueless about movie poster economics and will STFU about the subject.

(https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/fgzmaa_mUqzIzF6reRaKRNpa1kM/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2015/07/21/936/n/1922283/4e190ce095655315_clueless_cher1/i/When-You-Dont-Get-Promotion-You-Thought-Bag.gif)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 30, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
Don't know why peeps say I was batsh*t crazy in Round 1, just cuz I spent a gazillion hours on the hobby - which I should have spent chasing the 1 million+ single femmes in DC - and somehow managed to lose $50K on it despite being a 5 SuperStar Collector.

I would note that particular punch was thrown by the Daybill King Pimp Daddy, so his judgement is askew....

(http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp111/ehholden/2212492404_8b3b02e4d7_o.jpg)

Daybill artists at work
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_01.jpg)

Gone With the Wind
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_02.jpg)

Mysterious Island
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_03.jpg)

Wizard of Oz
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_04.jpg)

the Lion King
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_05.jpg)


not sure what movie this is..... could be a promo for National Geographic.....
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_06.jpg)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on June 30, 2017, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 09:49:41 PM

Daybill artists at work
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_01.jpg)

These fine folks are far too talented to produce the artwork I see on most daybills.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on June 30, 2017, 10:03:09 PM
These fine folks are far too talented to produce the artwork I see on most daybills.

those were the better artists on Richardson daybills
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 02:01:50 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on June 30, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
those were the better artists on Richardson daybills

I have to say that some of the Richardson Studios stuff is pretty outstanding.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on July 01, 2017, 02:22:39 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on June 30, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
As per usual, HA has so many rare and beautious pieces once again being offered in the upcoming Sig Auction.

Should be another exciting one to watch and partake in.  thumbsup.gif

That's the right attitude Jeff, ra-ra, everybody wang chung tonight, etc.

But not for me alas. See I've really become enamored of a particular ultra-rare 1930s 1S up for bid, 95% obscured:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/test_zpst1nxxnzp.jpg)

I've hired CyberVor, a notorious Russian group, to hack HA's bidding records and find out who else is bidding on it.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/2d/41/6a/2d416a183b5bbcfec1ae5b71398bea19.jpg)

I've also hired Egyptian Queen Mummy Ahmanet, who is available for gigs now that her movie flat-lined in the US, to track down other bidders, chew their faces off, and convert what-is-left-of-them into undead mummies to serve her for the next five billion years until the sun supernovas and incinerates them.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YOdrQGQhPVU/maxresdefault.jpg)

So fair warning to all.....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 02:30:03 AM
If that screen grab is any indication of what she looked like in the flick,  :o  spew  I can see why it tanked (one of several reasons, no doubt, along with CGI overload and Universal also driving this theme/franchise into the ground).

And could the title have been any more original?  hitself
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 02:43:45 AM
Here's a pricey "New Universal" insert from 1940 -  for Black Friday, with Mssrs Karloff & Lugosi.

With a BIN of $12,000.00 / obo   

Plus $50.00 for Expedited Shipping.  faint2.gif

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-FRIDAY-RARE-ORIG-INSERT-BORIS-KARLOFF-BELA-LUGOSI-1940-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/112460814176?hash=item1a2f2fd760:g:uioAAOSwjqVZL3iH

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6734;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 01, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on July 01, 2017, 02:22:39 AM
But not for me alas. See I've really become enamored of a particular ultra-rare 1930s 1S up for bid, 95% obscured:

Good luck on the Let's Fall In Love Mel, stone lithos are the best.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 01, 2017, 01:06:08 PM
Good luck on the Let's Fall In Love Mel, stone lithos are the best.

I totally agree with you on this, too Sean.

And that one is a nice looking poster (and it needed to be 98% hidden, mel, along without referencing it's in HA's auction) ;)

Im always amazed how items like this that havent been seen as much or are more uncommon still pop up in Grey's hands. There must be a trove of things held by people out there, just waiting to once again see the light of day. That's exciting to think about.  Good luck in snagging it.

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 01, 2017, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
Im always amazed how items like this that havent been seen as much or are more uncommon still pop up in Grey's hands. There must be a trove of things held by people out there, just waiting to once again see the light of day.

Grey does a great job all-around. I don't think anyone has had more unseen poster rarities go through their hands in the last 30 years as Heritage has in just the last 10.

I just hope when he finds a Big Sleep midget wc, that it doesn't shoot through the roof
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 04:44:15 PM
If nothing else, it's nice to see pieces like this are still out there and available. And void of any restoration, too.

Frankenstein (1931) WC   notworthy.gif
BIN: $125,000.00 / OBO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-1931-BORIS-KARLOFF-COLIN-CLIVE-DWIGHT-FRYE-UNIVERSAL-HORROR-/382111795983?hash=item58f7a34b0f:g:9~IAAOSw8HBZMOa4

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=6740;image)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 01, 2017, 06:05:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 04:44:15 PM
If nothing else, it's nice to see pieces like this are still out there and available. And void of any restoration, too.

Frankenstein (1931) WC   notworthy.gif
BIN: $125,000.00 / OBO

Wow, that's the closest to FMV he's listed something at in a long time.

Guess we will see how much the market has recovered on some of the items he constantly lists (Dracula's Daughter halves, Mummy's Tomb half, Ghost of Frank 3-sheet, etc.) when some of the recovered material Haggard stole is sold later this month.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on July 01, 2017, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
And that one is a nice looking poster (and it needed to be 98% hidden, mel, along without referencing it's in HA's auction) ;)
Dag my too-clever-by-half obscuration was a:

(http://takelessons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/giphy-2.gif)

Well I'm going to bid an irrational boatload to land it. Could easily get beaten by even-crazier deep pockets.

Did the same thing with Sullivan's Travels although that was negotiating with a savvy dealer.

It's just money, gotta have priorities in life....

(https://blogjob.com/teendiaries/files/2015/10/bigstock-Priorities-in-Order-52751263.jpg)
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Post by: Louie D. on July 09, 2017, 12:11:03 PM
Surely I can't be the only one who recognizes this gentleman not as William Wellman but Will Rogers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 09, 2017, 12:47:15 PM
Quote from: Louie D. on July 09, 2017, 12:11:03 PM
Surely I can't be the only one who recognizes this gentleman not as William Wellman but Will Rogers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151)

Yup..that be Will Rogers, alright. He must have been visiting the set.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7182;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 10, 2017, 12:33:08 AM
Quote from: Louie D. on July 09, 2017, 12:11:03 PM
Surely I can't be the only one who recognizes this gentleman not as William Wellman but Will Rogers.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4693151)

It sold for $46.00.

I wonder if the winning bidder also knew it was actually Will Rogers (and was a Will Rogers fan)? Hopefully, that was the case.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on July 10, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 01:08:55 PM
I totally agree with you on this, too Sean.

And that one is a nice looking poster (and it needed to be 98% hidden, mel, along without referencing it's in HA's auction) ;)

Im always amazed how items like this that havent been seen as much or are more uncommon still pop up in Grey's hands. There must be a trove of things held by people out there, just waiting to once again see the light of day. That's exciting to think about.  Good luck in snagging it.

Dag, HA seriously underestimated this one, already near its HE:

Gonna drop my real bid at the end....

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-07-10%20at%205.28.48%20AM_zpsduxfl2vi.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 10, 2017, 11:52:17 AM
As was pointed out on MOPO this morning by Kirby McDaniel, this Portal Publications poster for THE ENDLESS SUMMER is being auctioned by KIOBUY Auctions. The description does say that it is by Portal, but nothing is mentioned about it being one of their undersized, commercial reprints:

https://www.kiobuy.com/en/auctions/404-pub-mania/4129065-van-hamersveld-the-endless-summer-1966

The current bid is 100 euros, (tho the reserve has not been met, thank goodness), with an estimate of 120-150 euros. It ends in about 21 hours.

I just sent them a message about it. Maybe if they received a few other alerts they would either pull it or let the high bidders know exactly what it is they are bidding on.

I will let the forum know if I get any reply back.

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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2017, 02:20:37 PM
Just checked HA Sig auction.  Some nice stuff, as always.

One of the games I like to play is to see how many pieces being sold I already own and how many I want.  This session, I own 50 pieces and want 46.  Does anyone else play this game?

A few I want are a little expensive.  What make it difficult is that the one I want most comes late on Saturday, which means that I may have to let the others go in order to bid on it.  But then if I miss it, I miss them all.  Decisions, decisions...

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 25, 2017, 02:20:37 PM
Just checked HA Sig auction.  Some nice stuff, as always.

One of the games I like to play is to see how many pieces being sold I already own and how many I want.  This session, I own 50 pieces and want 46.  Does anyone else play this game?

A few I want are a little expensive.  What make it difficult is that the one I want most comes late on Saturday, which means that I may have to let the others go in order to bid on it.  But then if I miss it, I miss them all.  Decisions, decisions...

T

my game is simpler.. what do I still need. other than that, I have no reason to buy stuff that is 'cool' anymore.. so my list is small. maybe a half-dozen items and probably half of those I don't care
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on July 25, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Thierry, I also like to keep track of how many posters HA offers in their signature auction I already own.  In the current sale, I own 28 posters.  As far as posters that I want, there are only 5, most of which are rather expensive unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2017, 09:18:48 PM
Do you have a budget, Antoine, or are you going for all of them.  And if you have a budget, say $20k, how do you decide which one to go for first.  If the one you want most is last, do you have a plan?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on July 26, 2017, 10:40:43 AM
Thierry, I usually play it by ear the day of the auction (I always bid over the phone).  I don't really have a budget, but if there's a poster I really want more than the other lots I'm bidding on, I tend to prioritize that one and make sure that I get it.  Good thing is that most of the rarer posters that HA offers during those Signature auctions are sold during the first session, so usually my first pick does come first anyway.  I also like to take the temperature of the room the day of the auction to get a sense of how competitive the bidding is.  This is one of the reasons why I like to bid over the phone (as opposed to leaving an online bid), as it allows me to make a decision on the spot.

That said, there aren't many lots I want in this auction.  This is due in part to the relatively narrow focus of my collection, which is mostly vintage horror and sci-fi titles (although I occasionally buy some film noir stuff as well if I like the iconography).  At this point, I already own a lot of the posters from those genres.  Also, I typically don't buy smaller sizes (I don't collect any LC, and rarely go for 1/2 sheets or inserts) nor do I buy linen backed OS, so this rules out a good chunk of the posters that HA is offering this week.  The French 47X63 for Bride of Frankenstein is the one exception (I sometimes buy linenbacked posters if their size is large, as it makes framing them easier), but I'm not sure I want to spend that much on it, so there's a good chance I may not get anything this time.  We'll see. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: hepcatpunk on July 26, 2017, 12:40:28 PM
Rats.  The one poster that really struck my fancy and would just be awesome on my walls doubled its bid overnight.  Would be impossible to explain to wife if I won now.  Probably move on to a new target as there are some nice ones I would not mind owning, but a little saddened.  Hope it goes for a fortune now since I can't have it.  :P
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
right now, Heritage has $262,900.00 bid on the Italian Casablanca 4 folio.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/academy-award-winner/casablanca-warner-brothers-1946-first-post-war-release-italian-4-fogli-555-x-7825-luigi-martinati-artwork/a/7162-86354.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

more than 4 times the highest sale for any poster in the last 15 years from their closest competitors.. and the auction has not even begun yet. I wonder if it will reach 500k?

for the life of me, I fail to see any reason a consignor would send any such item (or other uber-valuable poster of any kind)  to any other venue
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 27, 2017, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
for the life of me, I fail to see any reason a consignor would send any such item (or other uber-valuable poster of any kind)  to any other venue

Nicely done, Rich.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 27, 2017, 02:43:02 PM
Nicely done, Rich.

T

all I'm posting is factual data and my opinion T.

people are welcome to disagree.

I consign stuff to all kinds of other sellers. I send stuff to HA and I send stuff to Profiles in History and MoviePosterExchange and I even have my pal selling on ebay (however irregularly)

but here's the key - the huge book collection I sold at Profiles last month, I wouldn't send to HA. The posters I sent HA, I wouldn't send to Profiles. The material I send to MPE, I wouldn't send to HA or Profiles. I'm getting ready to send some more stuff to Profiles (posters) and it's a toss-up on these particular titles if HA might do better, but I think Profiles will actually get more for one of my Endless Summer 30x40s (seriously, why do I need 2?) than HA might because of their proximity to the ocean

it's a money-management issue. Who will get the best price is my concern
I pick my spots very carefully and I think all collectors should do the same
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 27, 2017, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on July 26, 2017, 10:40:43 AM
Thierry, I usually play it by ear the day of the auction (I always bid over the phone).  I don't really have a budget, but if there's a poster I really want more than the other lots I'm bidding on, I tend to prioritize that one and make sure that I get it.  Good thing is that most of the rarer posters that HA offers during those Signature auctions are sold during the first session, so usually my first pick does come first anyway.  I also like to take the temperature of the room the day of the auction to get a sense of how competitive the bidding is.  This is one of the reasons why I like to bid over the phone (as opposed to leaving an online bid), as it allows me to make a decision on the spot.

That said, there aren't many lots I want in this auction.  This is due in part to the relatively narrow focus of my collection, which is mostly vintage horror and sci-fi titles (although I occasionally buy some film noir stuff as well if I like the iconography).  At this point, I already own a lot of the posters from those genres.  Also, I typically don't buy smaller sizes (I don't collect any LC, and rarely go for 1/2 sheets or inserts) nor do I buy linen backed OS, so this rules out a good chunk of the posters that HA is offering this week.  The French 47X63 for Bride of Frankenstein is the one exception (I sometimes buy linenbacked posters if their size is large, as it makes framing them easier), but I'm not sure I want to spend that much on it, so there's a good chance I may not get anything this time.  We'll see.

Interesting.  I would never do it by phone because it's too... personal, for lack of a better world.  I like the anonymity of online bidding.  I don't want to mingle.  Part of the reason why you'll never see me at a poster convention.  But I get it.

I agree also on the linen OS.  Zero interest.  The larger ones, maybe, but only if I know I cannot find a better folded version.

Good luck Saturday.  I'll be at the beach bidding, fighting the sun reflection.  I don't collect vintage horror and sci-fi, only classics.  So hopefully we won't go against one another.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on July 27, 2017, 09:27:19 PM
There's more than enough to go around.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 27, 2017, 08:38:28 PM
Interesting.  I would never do it by phone because it's too... personal, for lack of a better world.  I like the anonymity of online bidding.

if I can bid in person on what I want, I prefer it.
if I can't bid in person and I want to bid, please call me, if you have phone bidding
if I can't bid in person and there is no phone bidding, I'll bid online

the benefit in-person and phone bidding has over online bidding, is that I have had the internet 'hiccup' or even 'jackass ran off the road and knocked out the telecommunications box situated down at the corner behind that fence' and missed out on bidding for something.

now I can understand not wanting to be seen in person, but even phone bidding is entirely anonymous. If you win, only the same people will know who you are and if you don't win, at least they'll know yuo when you want to get a call next time again.

there is also this, at Profiles, you bid in person, pay with an approved check or bank draft, you pay 20%
same deal goes by phone
you bid on any online venue and win, you pay 24%

obviously, when I spend 30k, I don't want to do it via an online option in this case
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
My God, is it me or is she super slow.  Last chance, final warning... Come on, come on, I have to make a pool party this afternoon and I don't want to be the asshole on his phone.  Being an asshole is enough ;)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 29, 2017, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 02:34:33 PM
My God, is it me or is she super slow.  Last chance, final warning... Come on, come on, I have to make a pool party this afternoon and I don't want to be the asshole on his phone.  Being an asshole is enough ;)

T

you're just impatient. she's on the same speed as always
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Post by: erik1925 on July 29, 2017, 03:07:01 PM
At least she doesnt seem to be saying "No regrets" as often as she has in the past, after each lot.
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Post by: Simes on July 29, 2017, 03:20:41 PM
She seems a real sweetie.  Lovely eyes, as they move seductively from left to right.

(Deary me, I hope she doesn't read this... bless her)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 29, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
right now, the Italian Casablanca poster is at $478,000
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 03:27:06 PM
I already missed 2.

Great.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: kovacs01 on July 29, 2017, 03:33:57 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on July 10, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Dag, HA seriously underestimated this one, already near its HE:

Gonna drop my real bid at the end....

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-07-10%20at%205.28.48%20AM_zpsduxfl2vi.jpg)

They do that sometimes.  I remember a Russian Solaris they had at around $2000 that ended up going north of 7K.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 29, 2017, 04:09:34 PM
Metropolis daybill $215k!

 jawdrop

I wonder why the floor bidder didn't want the second poster?
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 29, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there weren't too many lots I wanted in today's HA Signature sale, but I did manage to snatch this beautiful Italian 4 Fogli for Miami Story.  I typically only buy classic sci-fi/horror paper, but once in a while I fall for the lurid imagery of a film noir poster, and this is one such instance.  I'm also a big Ballester fan, so this one was a no-brainer for me.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
Nice one!  I think I'm done with the 1st session.  I had 3 posters left, until I realized they were all linenbacked :(  Thank God I checked.  HA should do like Emovie and make it more visible up front.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 05:14:52 PM
The good news for me is that there is a poster I really want this afternoon.  It is linenbacked and a bit on the expensive side.  Just by accident, I happened to ask a collector friend of mine about it yesterday and he agreed to sell me a mint folded one.  So if the poster ends up selling for way less on hA, I'll buy the linen version.  Otherwise, I know what my spending limit is.

 ;D

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 29, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on July 29, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there weren't too many lots I wanted in today's HA Signature sale, but I did manage to snatch this beautiful Italian 4 Fogli for Miami Story.  I typically only buy classic sci-fi/horror paper, but once in a while I fall for the lurid imagery of a film noir poster, and this is one such instance.  I'm also a big Ballester fan, so this one was a no-brainer for me.

this is one of about a half dozen Italian noir posters that are off-the-scale
nice pickup

I almost bid on the Human Desire poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on July 29, 2017, 07:46:29 PM
Thanks guys!  I'm very happy with this purchase, I think this poster is truly stunning.

Just saw that the linen-backed OS for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man blew past its high estimate and sold for over 31K! 
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Post by: erik1925 on July 29, 2017, 08:44:28 PM
Beautiful, Ben.

And congrats!! clap clap clap

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7254;image)
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Post by: guest4955 on July 29, 2017, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on July 29, 2017, 05:00:29 PM
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there weren't too many lots I wanted in today's HA Signature sale, but I did manage to snatch this beautiful Italian 4 Fogli for Miami Story.  I typically only buy classic sci-fi/horror paper, but once in a while I fall for the lurid imagery of a film noir poster, and this is one such instance.  I'm also a big Ballester fan, so this one was a no-brainer for me.

Congrats!
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Post by: eatbrie on July 29, 2017, 09:59:30 PM
Missed on some big pieces...  >:(

Won these... all folded.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4308/35859287360_72681b2e30_z.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4292/35859287550_35c4e80684_z.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/35859287580_e501021551_z.jpg)

And this one that I bid on today, lost but ended up purchasing a mint folded last night for a little less.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4318/35448086223_6c2e7490fa_z.jpg)

T
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Post by: guest4955 on July 29, 2017, 10:03:04 PM
Blow-out!

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_0544_zpsbfr7pchf.png) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/IMG_0544_zpsbfr7pchf.png.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_0566_zpssnwwrpu8.jpeg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/IMG_0566_zpssnwwrpu8.jpeg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_0553_zps3ufvpvat.png) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/IMG_0553_zps3ufvpvat.png.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: hepcatpunk on July 31, 2017, 01:53:14 PM
Love the LoA, T.  Had my eyes on it---about as nice an example as one could hope to find.  All the LoA stuff was in pretty nice shape.
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Post by: Simes on August 01, 2017, 04:07:09 AM
Love the LoA art...
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Post by: Simes on August 11, 2017, 12:13:05 PM
Not posters, but both items on platforms that we all know and love, and both with one or two days left on each.  An Octopussy World Royal Premiere brochure.

And one where ebay seems to do better than emp, so far...

$17 on emp
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4726722

£360 on ebayy
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-OCTOPUSSY-Royal-World-Charity-Programme-1983-RARE/311930652363?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Curious as to how all this plays out.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 03, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
Some good stuff at Bruce's.  None for me because it's linenbacked, but some good stuff.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on September 10, 2017, 11:39:55 AM
Looking at Bruce's auctions ending today, and more precisely those ET mock-ups, it always amazes me that people would spend any kind of money on rejected art.  Obviously, it was rejected for a reason - because it's not good.  Why would anyone want to collect art that wasn't is a mystery to me.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on September 10, 2017, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 10, 2017, 11:39:55 AM
Looking at Bruce's auctions ending today, and more precisely those ET mock-ups, it always amazes me that people would spend any kind of money on rejected art.  Obviously, it was rejected for a reason - because it's not good.  Why would anyone want to collect art that wasn't is a mystery to me.

T

I can certainly see true, hardcore completists for any film to go after material like this. Those types will go after anything associated with a movie, be it rejected art, test wardrobe that wasnt used in the film etc.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 10, 2017, 12:20:28 PM
You know I'm a hardcore completist when it comes to Spielberg (more than 1,400 posters on the man) but this is just... head  scratching.  I saw so much shit go thru garbage while working at studios, it still amazes me the stuff people will collect.

T
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Post by: PosterMoster on September 10, 2017, 01:41:30 PM

The link and image for this Ed April Buck Rogers poster are gone.   

I was curious what this poster looked like - does anyone have a picture of it they can post?



Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on May 07, 2017, 06:52:26 PM
I advised Heritage that the Buck Rogers poster at this link was incorrectly described (it was not a 1940 release poster, it was a 1960s poster done by comics reprint guy Ed April.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/serial/buck-rogers-famous-funnies-1940-newstand-poster-165-x-215-serial/a/161719-51053.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

Heritage cancelled all bids & removed the item from the auction
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 10, 2017, 01:56:58 PM
Quote from: PosterMoster on September 10, 2017, 01:41:30 PM
The link and image for this Ed April Buck Rogers poster are gone.   

I was curious what this poster looked like - does anyone have a picture of it they can post?

it reproduced this comic cover

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/buck-rogers-2-mile-high-pedigree-eastern-color-1941-cgc-nm-mt-98-white-pages-this-spellbinding-dick-calkins-cover-feat/a/803-6645.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
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Post by: crowzilla on September 10, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: PosterMoster on September 10, 2017, 01:41:30 PM
The link and image for this Ed April Buck Rogers poster are gone.   

I was curious what this poster looked like - does anyone have a picture of it they can post?

Wait a minute, when Heritage has something mis-described, they don't just add a small print warning somewhere in the auction?
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Post by: erik1925 on September 10, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 10, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
Wait a minute, when Heritage has something mis-described, they don't just add a small print warning somewhere in the auction?

I thought that's what every auction house did?  dontknow.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 11, 2017, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 10, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
Wait a minute, when Heritage has something mis-described, they don't just add a small print warning somewhere in the auction?

Nope. They did what every auction is supposed to do, immediately & without any pushback.
I told Grey what it was, he asked 2 questions and then it was removed.

HA does not and never will do anything different, no matter what any competitor says

Quote from: erik1925 on September 10, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
I thought that's what every auction house did?  dontknow.gif

you are misinformed
 ;)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 11, 2017, 02:05:58 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com link=topic= GoOn.gif833.msg224317#msg224317 date=1505152370
Nope. They did what every auction is supposed to do, immediately & without any pushback.
I told Grey what it was, he asked 2 questions and then it was removed.

HA does not and never will do anything different, no matter what any competitor says

you are misinformed
 ;)

Silly me.   GoOn.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on September 12, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
With a pre-auction estimate of $50K-100K, I wonder if the winning bid will far exceed that higher number?

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-275-x-41-style-l/p/7167-16002.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


The Phantom of the Opera (1925)

(https://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F8%2F4%2F7%2F15847465%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Antoine1973 on September 12, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
Jeff, HA also has a Dracula Style A OS in that same Signature auction, estimated $150K-300K.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 12, 2017, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on September 12, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
Jeff, HA also has a Dracula Style A OS in that same Signature auction, estimated $150K-300K.

a previously unknown copy!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 13, 2017, 08:50:08 AM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on September 12, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
Jeff, HA also has a Dracula Style A OS in that same Signature auction, estimated $150K-300K.

This will be another that will be exciting to watch, to see if it flies beyond the estimated value range or not.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 13, 2017, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 13, 2017, 08:50:08 AM
This will be another that will be exciting to watch, to see if it flies beyond the estimated value range or not.

I believe the Dracula poster will indeed get passed that 300k mark.
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Post by: eatbrie on September 23, 2017, 11:37:54 PM
I don't understand.  Am I missing something?  I probably own 2-3 of this poster and I thought it was worth $10 at most.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4350/37276278171_0b10847093_c.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on September 24, 2017, 12:21:33 AM
I think it is an error and the decimal place is supposed to be to the left one or two places. I am wondering if there is not some funny business going on with that one, it has never come even remotely close to that number. This one isn't even mint with tears and scratches in it. It's best sale ever on HA which was a folded copy went for $191. 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on September 24, 2017, 12:43:39 AM
Someone's must have discovered erotic art hidden in there somewhere

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2017, 02:14:59 AM
twp people fighting.
this happens all the time at HA and once in a while elsewhere. Incomprehensible price.. and it's not finished yet!

who wouldn't like to have been the consignor for that one?!?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 08:22:10 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 24, 2017, 02:14:59 AM
twp people fighting.
this happens all the time at HA and once in a while elsewhere. Incomprehensible price.. and it's not finished yet!

who wouldn't like to have been the consignor for that one?!?

Truly amazing when bidding like this happens.. and especially for something like that.

And by comparison, this original release insert for Bambi (1942) is only at $300.00 at this point:

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/animation/bambi-rko-1942-insert-14-x-36-animation/a/161739-54028.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-AlsoViewed-081514&tab=BrowseAlsoViewed-012417

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7390;image)


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: 50s on September 24, 2017, 12:43:39 AM
Someone's must have discovered erotic art hidden in there somewhere

I think it's the Beast's horns.  ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 08:41:58 AM
Even though in need of a little TLC, Ive always thought this a beautiful and rather seductive image of Bette Davis:  bed1

Jezebel (1938) title LC. And currently at $280.00

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/jezebel-warner-brothers-1938-linen-finish-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-drama/a/161739-54208.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7392;image)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on September 24, 2017, 10:06:28 AM
Hmmm.  I thought bringing up stuff that was undervalued was considered outing.  Didn't that cause a meltdown and a number of folks leaving a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 10:20:15 AM
Im sure everyone here looks at HA with regularity, since Grey and Bruce Carteron advertise their Sunday auctions on APF every week.  thumbsup.gif

From my understanding and previous discussions here on APF, outing pertained to items in smaller or maybe not as known auctions or items on ebay.

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Post by: jayn_j on September 24, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
I disagree, but whatever.  T gave you the site and you set the rules.  I mostly post elsewhere these days.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Undead on September 24, 2017, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 23, 2017, 11:37:54 PM
I don't understand.  Am I missing something?  I probably own 2-3 of this poster and I thought it was worth $10 at most.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4350/37276278171_0b10847093_c.jpg)

T
Currently up to $1792. For the sellers sake I hope the buyer pays, I would be stoked if it was mine. There are so many absolutely spectacular posters that that money could buy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 24, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
I disagree, but whatever.  T gave you the site and you set the rules.  I mostly post elsewhere these days.

You're free to disagree. That's the beauty of this or any forum, and creates robust discussion.

And I've never set any rules regarding this topic. As a matter of fact, there is no set rule about it, from Holiday, T or myself.

It's simply been discussed by other members, in a number of threads, over the years.
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Post by: ddilts399 on September 24, 2017, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 24, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
I disagree, but whatever.  T gave you the site and you set the rules.  I mostly post elsewhere these days.

I agree with your disagreement for whats its worth  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 24, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
While the Beauty and the Beast result is surprising, surely no one is surprised that HA knocks things out of the park weekly.

They "only" sell 400-500 items a week, but consistently bring in totals of $40-50K a week with tons of strong results.
A couple of weeks ago they sold this Barbarella Style B for over $2500 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/barbarella-paramount-1968-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-b-science-fiction/a/161737-52026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515), when the last result I see from another seller on this piece is less than $600.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 24, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 24, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
While the Beauty and the Beast result is surprising, surely no one is surprised that HA knocks things out of the park weekly.

They "only" sell 400-500 items a week, but consistently bring in totals of $40-50K a week with tons of strong results.
A couple of weeks ago they sold this Barbarella Style B for over $2500 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/barbarella-paramount-1968-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-b-science-fiction/a/161737-52026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515), when the last result I see from another seller on this piece is less than $600.

HA's consistent and high results are impressive, for sure. There's no doubt about that. clap clap clap
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 24, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 24, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
...when the last result I see from another seller on this piece is less than $600.

Yes, I was so close to buying that Barbarella for $500+, and then I convinced myself to refrain from re-buying stuff just because the price is so right.  Since I never sell, I end up with multiples of shit like that, and I'm always like, what now?  But while it was low, it could be higher than HA's last price the next time it sells, and HA could be much lower.  That's the beauty of our little hobby.  Nothing's set in stone, which is why people should jump in when they see a good deal and stop idiots like myself from re-buying stuff.

Thank you,

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 24, 2017, 08:27:29 PM
So $1,790  laugh1 laugh1 laugh1

Wait for half a dozen to pop up and sell for $10 each, as they should.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 24, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 24, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
Nothing's set in stone, which is why people should jump in when they see a good deal and stop idiots like myself from re-buying stuff.

When I was dealing people always questioned why I would aggressively purchase multiples of some vintage pieces (Would set up at Cinevent with 5 of the biplane card from North by Northwest, 3 house cards from Psycho, multiples of Universal horror monster cards, etc.,) and my answer was always that good stuff is good stuff and if I see a good deal I will buy it again.
You can always use yours in trades, T.

Pretty much the only thing set in stone right now is that HA will crush on all Casablanca pieces (and the upcoming Dracula).

Hey, T - I heard the rest of the Besson collection will be coming to auction soon, so start saving your pennies.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 24, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
I'm super lazy, and trading would mean having to pull out a poster (worse, putting everything back afterward), and shipping.  I did it a few times and it's a pain in the ass.  Not for me.

Thanks for the tip on Besson's stuff.  Is it going to be at Emovie again?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on September 25, 2017, 07:43:08 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 24, 2017, 10:06:28 AM
Hmmm.  I thought bringing up stuff that was undervalued was considered outing.  Didn't that cause a meltdown and a number of folks leaving a couple of years ago?

I remember that discussion and the fact that this thread survives should be answer enough as to whether 'outing' is still an issue.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Simes on September 25, 2017, 07:43:08 AM
I remember that discussion and the fact that this thread survives should be answer enough as to whether 'outing' is still an issue.

 8) thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on September 25, 2017, 08:56:08 AM
I think concensus was any item that was in Mel's budget range couldn't be discussed but if it was higher, then, fair game

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 25, 2017, 09:24:56 AM
The Jezebel LC was also a featured/highlighted/"outed" item in HA's own Sept 18th post, so that made it even more visible and known to folks here, versus 99% of the other material that was available for auction last night.

See item #2 in their post:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,12408.0.html
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 10:52:46 AM
The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster! moron1

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/sports/the-endless-summer-cinema-5-1966-day-glo-silk-screen-one-sheet-27-x-41-sports/a/161739-54113.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F8%2F8%2F2%2F15882201%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: 50s on September 25, 2017, 08:56:08 AM
I think concensus was any item that was in Mel's budget range couldn't be discussed but if it was higher, then, fair game

That was exactly it.

I don't think outing HA or Emovie is outing.  They advertise enough on this forum and if you don't know who they are and when they sell, maybe you should find yourself another hobby.  But outing an auction simply because you can't afford it is an absolute no.  It's not so much about the members here, more about all the l-urkers out there.  If you see something and you think someone else might be interested, you're free to send them a private message.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 10:52:46 AM
The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster! moron1

I thought about getting it, but the "Fine+" kept me away.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2017, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 24, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
Thanks for the tip on Besson's stuff.  Is it going to be at Emovie again?

My guess would be no, but we will know soon enough
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2017, 12:18:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 10:52:46 AM
The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster! moron1

Couldn't you have bid any of the other six days it was listed for auction?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
We all have specific ways of bidding.  Matt bids the day of, I think.  I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay.  If I can't do it, I miss it.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 25, 2017, 12:18:06 PM
Couldn't you have bid any of the other six days it was listed for auction?

It's something I've been looking for forever, but it isn't a priority as it's not that rare. And let's be honest, I didn't have any reason to think it would sell for under $1000, let alone well under $500!  Before yesterday it had only for <$1000 ONCE at Heritage when one sold for $956 3 years ago.  Otherwise all the sales have been $1000-3000.  Craziness.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: originalcinemaposters on September 25, 2017, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 02:18:33 PM
It's something I've been looking for forever, but it isn't a priority as it's not that rare. And let's be honest, I didn't have any reason to think it would sell for under $1000, let alone well under $500!  Before yesterday it had only for <$1000 ONCE at Heritage when one sold for $956 3 years ago.  Otherwise all the sales have been $1000-3000.  Craziness.
I have been after the quad forever and a day, now that is rare!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 25, 2017, 05:07:57 PM
Was the lower price possibly due to the fact that the imagery was printed crooked (veering slightly to the right?)

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F8%2F8%2F2%2F15882201%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


Another copy for comparison:

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7398;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on September 25, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
A lot of the 1-sheets are crooked -- nearly all of them I've seen anyway.  I would imagine the straight copy you found is the outlier.

And yes, the quad is wicked rare.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay. 

Exactly.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 24, 2017, 02:14:19 PM
While the Beauty and the Beast result is surprising, surely no one is surprised that HA knocks things out of the park weekly.

They "only" sell 400-500 items a week, but consistently bring in totals of $40-50K a week with tons of strong results.
A couple of weeks ago they sold this Barbarella Style B for over $2500 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/barbarella-paramount-1968-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-b-science-fiction/a/161737-52026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515), when the last result I see from another seller on this piece is less than $600.
Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 25, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
We all have specific ways of bidding.  Matt bids the day of, I think.  I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay.  If I can't do it, I miss it.

T

And with emp, doing that extends the auction by 5 more minutes, allowing others to play the last minute game, too.  waiting1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 25, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
And with emp, doing that extends the auction by 5 more minutes, allowing others to play the last minute game, too.  waiting1
if you bid slightly before the 5 minute mark, like +5:01, you're good and under the radar like.  Tricks of the trade  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 09:11:52 PM
Yes.  I honestly don't understand people who bid early on these auctions.  Sometimes you see posters that are obviously going to sell for more than $1,000, and some people bid $30 early on and never again.  Did they actually think they would get the item for $30?  I don't get the logic.  Anyone?

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 25, 2017, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
if you bid slightly before the 5 minute mark, like +5:01, you're good and under the radar like.  Tricks of the trade  thumbsup.gif

5 min is a long time.. more than likely, someone who wants a piece will bid again, extending the time, once more. It happens all the time.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on September 25, 2017, 10:31:54 PM
I've said it before.  An extended bid auction can have several strategies.  However, bidding $1 more than the other guy is seldom the right one.  This is proxy bidding, and all you accomplish is to raise both your and the other guy's blood pressure.

My strategy is and always has been to bid the highest price where I won't feel bad about losing the item if I'm outbid.  I generally place this last bid in the last hour before closing, AND THEN TURN OFF THE BROWSER.  People are always inching up the bid, and I can't stop them, but I think in some cases constantly being automatically overbid by my proxy causes some to drop out earlier than they might have if we were trading high bids in extended bidding.

In large auctions with staggered closing times, I will come back halfway through and maker a budget decision whether to raise my bid on later items, but I still don't wait for the hammer time.  I either won or I didn't.

Yeah, I lose some, but I never wake up the next day with buyers regret.  I also take the results to heart for future bids. If I bid $100 on poster X and it eventually went for $200, I know I'm going to need to decide if it is worth $250 to me and bid that the next time.  And heck, I sometimes win something I bid $150 on for $30.  Good feeling there.

There are very few items out there that are once in a lifetime opportunities.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4531 on September 26, 2017, 01:50:45 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on September 25, 2017, 09:11:52 PM
Yes.  I honestly don't understand people who bid early on these auctions.  Sometimes you see posters that are obviously going to sell for more than $1,000, and some people bid $30 early on and never again.  Did they actually think they would get the item for $30?  I don't get the logic.  Anyone?

T

I do throw lower bid on expensive poster, a way to monitor results when auctions end as I can just go to "My bids".  Bad logic I know :p
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4531 on September 26, 2017, 02:19:18 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:28:30 PM
Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.

It could be a strategy to pass the 2,000 USD consignment treshold at HA.   Ahaha, "Dear HA, based on previous results, my two posters for consignment are valued 2250 usd"...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 09:13:19 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on September 25, 2017, 08:28:30 PM
Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.

Why do you think (or how do you know) that the high end bidders and winners at HA's auctions are non-movie poster collectors?

Im thinking that many of the deep pocketed folks who bid there are serious (yet quiet) collectors with major collections.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
Not mid-auction, but a "mid-BIN."

This Japanese poster, for the film, Ugetsu (1953), listed for a Buy it Now of $6500.00   faint2.gif
It measures 27x39 inches.

I really like the imagery, regardless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UGETSU-1953-Rare-39x27-poster-for-Japanese-cinema-classic-CLEAN-design-trifold/221801527578?hash=item33a466b91a%3Ag%3A4ZwAAOSwl8NVfhRM

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7404;image)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on September 26, 2017, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 11:42:39 AM

This Japanese poster, for the film, Ugetsu (1953), listed for a Buy it Now of $6500.00   faint2.gif
It measures 27x39 inches.

That's a very strange size, wonder if Walter measured it correctly.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 26, 2017, 02:55:51 PM
That's a very strange size, wonder if Walter measured it correctly.

Sean, if that size is correct, could it be a size that is super rare or was not produced much at all? (Hence his asking price?)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 07:38:08 PM
John Hazleton's unbacked copy of White Zombie (1938RR), which has been listed on ebay for forever, is still available at his same listing price of $1250.00 (BIN).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHITE-ZOMBIE-BELA-LUGOSI-HORROR-CLASSIC-R-1938-1-SHEET-/150759120627?hash=item2319f19ef3:m:mxR_h-kGEqBTEOi2ltpnTqg

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7406;image)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on September 26, 2017, 07:50:29 PM
And 10 forum members have offered them 799 tonight due to these forum posts..
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
I wrote him a few years ago asking if there was "wiggle room" on his price for this poster.

He said (then) that it was a firm price.. And with no best offer option (ever) on this listing.. Im assuming it still is a solid selling price.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on September 26, 2017, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 09:13:19 AM
Why do you think (or how do you know) that the high end bidders and winners at HA's auctions are non-movie poster collectors?
Im thinking that many of the deep pocketed folks who bid there are serious (yet quiet) collectors with major collections.

not all of them, but I suspect a lot of non-movie poster collectors come out of the woodwork for these auctions.  That is the power of major auction houses like HA.  How else can we explain some of the absurd results?  They are attracted by the fuss of it all.  Just like when I bought a big cast iron butter churner at the farm auction last week.  WTF am I going to do with a big butter churner?  Had to have it though... 
 
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on September 26, 2017, 09:21:56 PM
I guess we would have to ask Grey Smith to get the definitive, general answer to this question/hypothesis.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 28, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
in auctions you find all kinds of people and HA, due to their huge membership across a very many fields, multi-million dollar advertising campaigns, their ability to find things no other auctions can and that they are owned & run by people who are actually collectors (unlike some auctions), they know exactly what to do to maximize values & clientele, because they understand both sides - what a seller wants and what collectors want

Jim Halperin for instance is one of the top collectors in comics & comic art for instance (he's spent quite a bit of money with me, including buying several EC stories & other Mad art from me). Jim Ivey is a major coin collector.

Being a collector is what led to my becoming a dealer and as we all know, I buy lots of stuff for myself and can't stop.. (it's a disease)

All auctions are not run by actual collectors.. and it makes a difference
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4531 on September 29, 2017, 05:13:52 AM
"What sellers and collectors wants"...

Meanwhile...
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4782152
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on September 29, 2017, 07:35:10 AM
 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2017, 02:34:56 PM
what every collector wants........

 :P
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Post by: crowzilla on September 29, 2017, 02:38:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on September 29, 2017, 02:34:56 PM
what every collector wants........

 :P

you mean besides fake autographs?
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Post by: guest4955 on September 30, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
So so COOL!

HA will auction POTO Style L:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf_zpsvf6vlurl.jpeg)

Description

The Phantom of the Opera (Universal, 1925). One Sheet (27.5" X 41") Style L.

A piece of untold scarcity that should make any collector sit up and take notice, we at Heritage take the greatest pleasure in presenting this much sought after one sheet. As one of Universal's early horror hits, this adaptation of Gaston Leroux's famous novel became the stuff of movie legends, due in large part to the talents of its leading actor. In addition to turning in a terrifying yet moving performance, Lon Chaney more than lived up to his moniker as "The Man of a Thousand Faces" as the disfigured Erik. Among his skillful, and sometimes painful, make-up techniques were that of using a wire to hold his nose in place, heavy grease paint to give the impression of sunken, skull-like eyes, and wearing rows of jagged fake teeth. It remains the most accurate depiction of the Phantom to date, a horrifying visage said to have made patrons faint at the sight. To keep Chaney's feat of artistry a secret, Universal obscured and misrepresented the Phantom in every single advertisement, including this dramatic one sheet. Given the presence of a mysterious masked figure, lurking in the shadows while chaos reigns below, audiences no doubt assumed this was an illustration of the dreaded Opera Ghost. Instead, the poster treats us to the sight of Norman Kerry in his role as the valiant Raoul de Chagny in his masquerade costume, a much more dapper guise than the true Phantom.

From a lavish production worthy of its source material, this exquisite stone litho one sheet has undergone careful restoration to return it to its former glory. The first of its kind to ever be offered at Heritage, the poster once showed horizontal creasing under the Universal Productions credit, tears and small chips in the borders and folds, and general wear and tear at folds. There was a chip in the left border and the poster had a few vertical tears extending from the top and bottom horizontal folds into the background. Although it retained much of its original color, there has been very minor color touchup to a few areas in the image and the "Ph" of the title. The poster was partially trimmed into the border, leaving the majority of the white border still intact. The missing portion has since been completely restored, and the borders have been airbrushed. Now a marvel to behold, this exquisite gem of a poster would be a crowning piece in any collection. Fine/Very Fine on Linen.

Estimate: $50,000 - $100,000.   

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-275-x-41-style-l/p/7167-16002.s?ic5=Home-FeaturedItems-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-275-x-41-style-l/p/7167-16002.s?ic5=Home-FeaturedItems-071515)
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Post by: erik1925 on October 01, 2017, 01:15:32 PM
Interesting interpretation and redraw of the US teaser OS art for the German poster for The Invisible Man (1933)

Est: $4000-8000.00

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-invisible-man-universal-1933-danish-one-sheet-245-x-335-/p/7167-56001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F8%2F3%2F9%2F15839223%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: mcfree on October 04, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on September 30, 2017, 09:49:31 AM
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf_zpsvf6vlurl.jpeg)

The Phantom of the Opera (Universal, 1925). One Sheet (27.5" X 41") Style    

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-275-x-41-style-l/p/7167-16002.s?ic5=Home-FeaturedItems-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/the-phantom-of-the-opera-universal-1925-one-sheet-275-x-41-style-l/p/7167-16002.s?ic5=Home-FeaturedItems-071515)

What an exquisite poster! I love it!
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Post by: erik1925 on October 04, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: mcfree on October 04, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
What an exquisite poster! I love it!

It truly is, Michael.

It was mentioned previously in this same thread, too.  ;)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg224355.html#msg224355
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Post by: mcfree on October 04, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on October 04, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
It truly is, Michael.

It was mentioned previously in this same thread, too.  ;)

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,833.msg224355.html#msg224355


Nice work Jeff! Sometimes I fall behind on my reading. But now that I think about it, I actually fell behind on my "commenting" lol. I was going to comment a few weeks ago and never got around to it. Anyway, good look'n out!  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on October 04, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: mcfree on October 04, 2017, 07:42:10 PM

Nice work Jeff! Sometimes I fall behind on my reading. But now that I think about it, I actually fell behind on my "commenting" lol. I was going to comment a few weeks ago and never got around to it. Anyway, good look'n out!  thumbsup.gif

I'm a huge "Phantom Phan" and anything related to this flick always grabs my eye, Michael.

Maybe one day a poster morsel will come floating by.

We all can fall behind due to life and life things; it happens and the forum continues to ebb and flow accordingly.  cheers
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Post by: Simes on October 07, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
A propos of no links, but only a reference to EMP's Sunday auction (7th October), I am amazed that an entity that purports to sell only Movie material, as the company name suggests, does so well to sell posters of non-movie related material.  Travel, War, etc.

How do people otherwise Not interested in Movie posters decide to peruse sites of exactly that if their interests pertain to other things?

For my part, I am aware I do Not look at general poster auctions since my area of interest is only this.  Movies.  (Indeed, Bond)  But, yunno...

Thoughts?
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Post by: 50s on October 07, 2017, 05:28:02 PM
I collect travel posters along with movie posters, maybe most people do, thus already know of EMP. Those that don't I guess would easy discover it with Google for travel or war posters. Bruce asked forum members some years ago about changing the name of EMP to better reflect EMP selling non movie poster items but as time has shown the EMP name remained.
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Post by: Simes on October 07, 2017, 05:58:44 PM
Ok.

That serves well the people that are known movie poster collectors, who also cross pollinate (for want of better terminology).

But why would someone who has these things for sale, place them with a niche oriented auction faction (such as movie posters) as opposed to something more generic that is known for auctioning, as well as posters, wine, salad bowls and egg slicers?

To wit, if in fact I had an egg slicer to auction, I wouldn't pop it in the middle of an auction for diamonds.

Again, just curious as to the thinking of all parties.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on October 07, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Non-movie posters are probably my favorite emp auctions, in my ways a lot of the non-movie posters can be more rare, interesting and pleasing to the eye than movie posters.

 A lot of movie posters Bruce sells, well, they sell for a dollar to ten dollars, so it would make sense to sell others posters that are likely to sell for more.  And by the same logic - to consign there as well.

I started collecting non-movie posters and branched into movie posters from there so the opposite transition would also hold true.

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Post by: guest4955 on October 16, 2017, 05:32:16 AM
1000 up for sale now at the next HA sig 2017-11-18:

https://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?No=816&Ns=Item+Title%7C0&N=54+792+4294949209&ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Preview-BackToSearch-081514#7167-84031 (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?No=816&Ns=Item+Title%7C0&N=54+792+4294949209&ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Preview-BackToSearch-081514#7167-84031)

Some of my faves:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-10-16%20at%205.27.22%20AM_zpswhuku05i.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-10-16%20at%205.27.29%20AM_zpsd7t0trem.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf-9_zpsd3uzf7di.jpeg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf-3_zpsu9dspwwl.jpeg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf_zpsc1013fe8.jpeg)
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Post by: crowzilla on October 16, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
This is pretty much the coolest thing in the HA auction - Kallis original art for the Invasion of the Saucer-men poster


(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983139%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Neo on October 16, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
Rad original art there from a great artist.   cool1

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Post by: erik1925 on October 16, 2017, 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on October 16, 2017, 03:02:23 PM
This is pretty much the coolest thing in the HA auction - Kallis original art for the Invasion of the Saucer-men poster


(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983139%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

AWESOME!!!  notworthy.gif
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Post by: rumble on October 18, 2017, 09:58:16 AM
Just incredible.
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Post by: guest4955 on October 18, 2017, 06:43:40 PM
Terrific PF "Lucky Strikes" coming up at HA sig:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf_zpsrlymowj8.jpeg)

*****

But way cooler is this fella's t-shirt, which has the ENTIRE PF script:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Bf614OKhdN76aSC0GxzeF_x6XjljzM-MXUax8hus73Q_zpsgw4x6wqp.jpg)

Uncomfortable Silences

Mia: "Don't you hate that?"
Vincent: "What?"
Mia: "Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bulls**t in order to be comfortable?"
Vincent: "I don't know. That's a good question."
Mia: "That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the f**k up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence."

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Post by: erik1925 on October 28, 2017, 11:50:24 AM
This Italian 4-fogli for Breakfast at Tiffany's (Brini art) with an estimate of $20-40K  :o

Holy mackerel.  faint2.gif

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/romance/breakfast-at-tiffany-s-paramount-1961-italian-4-fogli-55-x-78-ercole-brini-artwork/a/7167-86442.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983506%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: wonka on November 01, 2017, 09:10:37 PM
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Bf614OKhdN76aSC0GxzeF_x6XjljzM-MXUax8hus73Q_zpsgw4x6wqp.jpg)

Hipster shirt is hip.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 03:30:31 PM
Just checked Bruce’s auctions for tomorrow.  Why did they have to separate a complete set of LCs like The Birds?  Sets are hard enough to find complete, now someone most surely will end up with an incomplete one.  I don’t get that.  Keep the sets together.

T
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Post by: jayn_j on November 04, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 03:30:31 PM
Just checked Bruce’s auctions for tomorrow.  Why did they have to separate a complete set of LCs like The Birds?  Sets are hard enough to find complete, now someone most surely will end up with an incomplete one.  I don’t get that.  Keep the sets together.

T

According to Bruce's earlier posts, splitting sets is totally under the control of the person consigning them.  The seller believes the split set will go for an overall higher price, even with Bruce's larger commission for each card.  The 8 cards combined are at $686 with a day to go, and will undoubtedly go higher.  Just looked at Bruce's archives and the set has traditionally gone for $500-650.

Besides, building the set is part of the fun.  I collect sets when available, but also have many partials that I slowly build up.  It is a real rush when you find that 8th card to complete a set.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 04, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
According to Bruce's earlier posts, splitting sets is totally under the control of the person consigning them.  The seller believes the split set will go for an overall higher price, even with Bruce's larger commission for each card.  The 8 cards combined are at $686 with a day to go, and will undoubtedly go higher.  Just looked at Bruce's archives and the set has traditionally gone for $500-650.

Greedy bastards.  Always more money, gimme, gimme, gimme...  No ethics.

Quote from: jayn_j on November 04, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
Besides, building the set is part of the fun.  I collect sets when available, but also have many partials that I slowly build up.  It is a real rush when you find that 8th card to complete a set.

Not to me.  I only buy full sets.  I don't care about the Birds set, already own it, but I find it sad.  Again, greed wins it all.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 04, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 06:53:45 PM
Greedy bastards.  Always more money, gimme, gimme, gimme...  No ethics. Again, greed wins it all.

T

this equation exists on both sides of the fence.
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Post by: jayn_j on November 04, 2017, 11:50:58 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 06:53:45 PM
Greedy bastards.  Always more money, gimme, gimme, gimme...  No ethics.

Not to me.  I only buy full sets.  I don't care about the Birds set, already own it, but I find it sad.  Again, greed wins it all.

T

I only have a couple of The Birds cards myself.  Not what I usually collect, but I lived in Santa Rosa and we used to drive down to Bodega Bay for fresh crab and a nice drive.  I picked the cards that fed nostalgia for me.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 05, 2017, 12:34:50 AM
Ha, I forgot that Santa Rosa is where they shot the movie.  I need to go check it out one of these days.

T
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Post by: jayn_j on November 05, 2017, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 04, 2017, 06:41:25 PM
According to Bruce's earlier posts, splitting sets is totally under the control of the person consigning them.  The seller believes the split set will go for an overall higher price, even with Bruce's larger commission for each card.  The 8 cards combined are at $686 with a day to go, and will undoubtedly go higher.  Just looked at Bruce's archives and the set has traditionally gone for $500-650.

Just to close this out.  The 8 cards went to 6 different bidders for a total of $967.  Way above the $600-650 the set would have sold for.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 05, 2017, 10:21:05 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/the-birds-universal-1963-lobby-card-set-of-8-11-x-14-total-8-items-/a/7162-86708.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/hitchcock/the-birds-universal-1963-lobby-card-set-of-8-11-x-14-total-8-items-/a/7162-86708.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515)

Anyhow, I think it's sad.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on November 06, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
This Realart 1951RR insert for Frankenstein certainly seems to be doing mighty fine in HA's current Sig Auction.

Not too shabby for a RR, with the high bid currently at $5500.00 (+ the BP)

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/frankenstein-realart-r-1951-insert-14-x-36-/a/7167-86297.s?ic5=CatalogHome-ActionArea-JumpToLot-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F6%2F0%2F0%2F1%2F16001091%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Simes on November 06, 2017, 06:39:13 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 04, 2017, 06:53:45 PM
Greedy bastards.  Always more money, gimme, gimme, gimme...  No ethics.

T

Isn't this purely a celebration of the capitalist world in which we live?  Not sure ethics comes into it unless one counts stupidity or charity as being related.

That said, I haven't done the calculations as to whether the higher commission rates for lesser valued items would in fact serve only to shoot the consignor in the foot.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 06, 2017, 07:08:00 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 06, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
This Realart 1951RR insert for Frankenstein certainly seems to be doing mighty fine in HA's current Sig Auction.

Not too shabby for a RR, with the high bid currently at $5500.00 (+ the BP)

Re: why prices are going down the toilet
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Post by: ladeda on November 06, 2017, 02:04:45 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 06, 2017, 02:35:15 AM
This Realart 1951RR insert for Frankenstein certainly seems to be doing mighty fine in HA's current Sig Auction.

Not too shabby for a RR, with the high bid currently at $5500.00 (+ the BP)

I don't... I don't... understand :-[
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Post by: skyjackers on November 08, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
I'm finding it hard to understand how this item could attract any bids. I guess emovie think it will have some value or they wouldn't be auctioning it.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4828098
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Post by: eatbrie on November 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
Wow, it's a Back to the Future poster I don't own.  Must bid on it immediately.

 thumbsup.gif

T
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2017, 12:38:00 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on November 08, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
I'm finding it hard to understand how this item could attract any bids. I guess emovie think it will have some value or they wouldn't be auctioning it.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4828098

Maybe there is some value, too, because the poster, tho from humid South America, shows no signs of Fox-ing.  ;D
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Post by: Neo on November 08, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on November 08, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
I'm finding it hard to understand how this item could attract any bids. I guess emovie think it will have some value or they wouldn't be auctioning it.

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4828098

The poster was trimmed massively, reattached, and repainted, to make an entirely different poster from what it started (see above).

The artistic liberty someone took with that is interesting.  I'd like to see more stuff like that.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 08, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: Neo on November 08, 2017, 12:40:42 PM
The poster was trimmed massively, reattached, and repainted, to make an entirely different poster from what it started (see above).

The artistic liberty someone took with that is interesting.  I'd like to see more stuff like that.

why would anyone sell a pos like this?

I usually throw stuff like this either into the trash or at best, into a pile of stuff that will be sold as a pile of crap.
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Post by: Neo on November 08, 2017, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 08, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
why would anyone sell a pos like this?

I usually throw stuff like this either into the trash or at best, into a pile of stuff that will be sold as a pile of crap.

Good for you.

 thumbup
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Post by: skyjackers on November 08, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 08, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
Wow, it's a Back to the Future poster I don't own.  Must bid on it immediately.

 thumbsup.gif

T

I thought of you immediately when I saw it. Apologies for outing the auction. Hopefully it won't get run up too much  ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on November 08, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on November 08, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
I thought of you immediately when I saw it. Apologies for outing the auction. Hopefully it won't get run up too much  ;)

Damn you!!!  I'm actually quite surprised Bruce is auctioning something like this.  So he will just auction everything?

T
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Post by: DekeThornton on November 08, 2017, 07:12:05 PM
All joking aside, it is a real mystery why someone would do that to a poster.

Drawing mustaches or poking holes in nipples or whatever else people typically do to deface posters, I can at least understand.

But somebody spent actual time and effort modifying that poster. WHY?????  I'd bid $1 if I thought it would solve the mystery.
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Post by: Harry Caul on November 08, 2017, 07:23:32 PM
laugh1

I might buy it for you if it gets us closer unlocking its secrets... now I want to know too!!!!
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Post by: 50s on November 08, 2017, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: DekeThornton on November 08, 2017, 07:12:05 PM
Drawing mustaches or poking holes in nipples or whatever else people typically do to deface posters, I can at least understand.

I can also understand poking holes in nipples
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 08, 2017, 11:04:12 PM
If you guys actually got down to south america you would see that it makes perfect sense to do this to a poster.
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Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2017, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 08, 2017, 11:04:12 PM
If you guys actually got down to south america you would see that it makes perfect sense to do this to a poster.

Vick, would you care to elaborate, maybe?
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Post by: guest4531 on November 09, 2017, 01:25:12 AM
"Bruce will sell anything" - Clearly, last time I shared two little plastic toy from McDonalds still in original packaging :)

"Mustache and hole in nipples" - You can make a living drawing mustache on poster, see that guy in NY call "Mustache man" who draws mustache on subway ads and movie posters - http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/graffiti-artist-moustache-man-opens-gallery-show-article-1.1270628



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on November 10, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 08, 2017, 11:49:42 PM
Vick, would you care to elaborate, maybe?
well from some of my travels in the americas its the type of thing i would not even flinch if I saw it.  My immediate thoughts were:

1-folks are crafty, can easily take what north americans would view as garbage and recycle it into good use, even turn it into a buck
2-not as anal as we are;  they might appreciate the end result that is this BTTF poster rather seeing it as an appalling travesty of a one sheet

I also thought it is extremely wet and hard to keep things in good condition; presumably this poster was kept folded and was completely soaked in the middle so this was all that could be saved

All this to say, I approve of this listing  thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2017, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on November 10, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
well from some of my travels in the americas its the type of thing i would not even flinch if I saw it.  My immediate thoughts were:

1-folks are crafty, can easily take what north americans would view as garbage and recycle it into good use, even turn it into a buck
2-not as anal as we are;  they might appreciate the end result that is this BTTF poster rather seeing it as an appalling travesty of a one sheet

I also thought it is extremely wet and hard to keep things in good condition; presumably this poster was kept folded and was completely soaked in the middle so this was all that could be saved

All this to say, I approve of this listing  thumbsup.gif

A very good number of posters from Argentina have survived - dating back to the 1920s (if not earlier).

I wonder what that country's secret has been to keep folded posters that are 75+ years old dry, alive and well.  dontknow.gif

Here's an Arg OS I own.. for the flick, Interrupted Melody (1955). It's 30 years older than the BTTF, but I think it looks pretty dam good for its age, and not the least bit soggy nor smeared with tempera paint. 

(All the above is said very tongue in cheek, of course, Vick, as the BTTF poster could have been in terrible shape prior to its "surgery").  ;)

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8935.0;attach=6748;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 11, 2017, 12:42:12 PM
Currently at $750.00, this 3 sheet for This Gun For Hire (1942), in HA's  upcoming Sig Auction.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7636;image)

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/film-noir/this-gun-for-hire-paramount-1942-three-sheet-41-x-795-/a/7167-86068.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus

I wonder if the brief description on some of the retouching work will hold this one back at all? 

As stated in the description:

"There is touch up to the folds, pinholes in the borders and background, small chips at the crossfolds, a minor chip in Alan Ladd's temple and another in Veronica Lake's hair, small chips and tears in the bottom and left borders, and one small chip and a tear in the upper right border. There are some scratches below the title in the dark background, faint airbrushing in the borders into the image and paint drips in the left border."[/b]

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 11, 2017, 07:47:50 PM
This surely can't be in "good" condition. It's got a fist sized hole through it amongst other defects. That hole isn't mentioned in the description. Maybe missed

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA171109/550/3sh_playgirl_SD08368_L.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4833513)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on November 13, 2017, 05:26:18 AM
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/andrzej-seweryn-fot.-bernard-kwapinski-james-bo-d11463d8ce

What, in the name of all things' holy, is this?

Didn't dare pop it in the 'other' thread for fear of libel.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 11, 2017, 07:47:50 PM
This surely can't be in "good" condition. It's got a fist sized hole through it amongst other defects. That hole isn't mentioned in the description. Maybe missed



Steve, what poster are you meaning? All we see is that wagging finger.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 13, 2017, 04:51:18 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
Steve, what poster are you meaning? All we see is that wagging finger.

Click the image it will take you to the poster.

Selectively allowing hotlinking of EMP images by APF is only a line or two of code or less (if other sites are already allowed/configured) on the server. It's just bollocks EMP prohibits APF showing a mid auction poster for discussion, even when EMP started this thread. I though this worked in the past? Does EMP dislike us here so much to allow this to happen. Letting them show here is so simple, in 6000 posts I'm not the first to show an EMP photo/poster especially as EMP is the main business discussed for their current auction posters
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
Clicking on the wagging finger in your post also shows the same wagging image (and not the poster) on emp's site. It must happen once a hotlink url is used on an APF post.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7658;image)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 13, 2017, 05:23:54 PM
^ Well, if that is the case, that is absurd. If EMP wants people to come to their site via links around the web then show them the finger when they get there, something is wrong. I think something is screwed up unintentionally in your case.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 13, 2017, 05:30:45 PM
Funny, when I click it, I get the page with poster image.
Let me try to post the image:
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA171109//550/3sh_playgirl_SD08368_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
Currently at $2600.00, just seeing this beautiful US OS for Manhattan Melodrama (1934) makes me want to see the movie, since William Powell & Myrna Loy were SOOO good together in the Thin Man series of films. Their comedic timing was impeccable.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/crime/manhattan-melodrama-mgm-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-c/a/7167-86020.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983022%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 13, 2017, 05:33:20 PM
Well, that worked.  Not sure what is happening here.  I thought it might be copying while logged in or out, but I tried it both ways.

I don't know why some get the wagging finger and others don't.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 13, 2017, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
Currently at $2600.00, just seeing this US OS for Manhattan Melodrama (1934) makes me want to see the movie, since William Powell & Myrna Loy were SOOO good together in the Thin Man series of films. Their comedic timing was impeccable.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/crime/manhattan-melodrama-mgm-1934-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-c/a/7167-86020.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983022%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

There are so many choice items in the HA sig auction.  I could easily blow my entire savings, so I forced myself to be limited to a single item.  Bidding hard on that one, though.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 07:20:28 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 11, 2017, 07:47:50 PM
This surely can't be in "good" condition. It's got a fist sized hole through it amongst other defects. That hole isn't mentioned in the description. Maybe missed

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA171109/550/3sh_playgirl_SD08368_L.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4833513)

I can see the image when using my Safari browser, Steve. I normally use FFox, and that shows the other.

Weird, to say the least. I cleared the cache and restarted FFox. But to no avail.  :-\
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 13, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
This is a problem of EMP. its a simple problem to solve. Its not a new problem. Why they let this happen is anyones guess
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2017, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 13, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
This is a problem of EMP. its a simple problem to solve. Its not a new problem. Why they let this happen is anyones guess

I tried a quick test here and I was able to post (and also view) the image.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/transparencies_notstock/550/ScanE389_20130430_170911.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 13, 2017, 08:06:28 PM
Each person sees either the correct image or the waving finger depending on what they first saw, either via a hot link here they see the finger, if on EMP and just happened to see the poster themselves they see that. The image (that they saw first) stays in their browser cache so they keep seeing it even if they go to the EMP site like you did Jeff..


Nuff said, back to youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/v/NJz7TT7dKvQ


Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 14, 2017, 01:42:39 PM
Currently at $30,000.00

It will be interesting to see where this iconic piece ends up! 

Invasion of the Saucer-Men (American International, 1957). Original Albert Kallis Gouache Poster Artwork (20" X 24").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/invasion-of-the-saucer-men-american-international-1957-original-albert-kallis-gouache-poster-artwork-20-x-24-/a/7167-86448.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F9%2F8%2F3%2F15983139%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rumble on November 15, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
A "tub full of movie posters" on eBay. I wonder if this has anything worthwhile in it?!
Would love to hear from the buyer in case someone here gets it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222714552187?rmvSB=true

(Also in case someone is worried about "outing", this is the most watched poster auction on eBay so fair game I would say!)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ladeda on November 15, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
Quote from: rumble on November 15, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
A "tub full of movie posters" on eBay. I wonder if this has anything worthwhile in it?!
Would love to hear from the buyer in case someone here gets it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222714552187?rmvSB=true

(Also in case someone is worried about "outing", this is the most watched poster auction on eBay so fair game I would say!)

That would be fun to get hands on, but I'm struggling to buy that they hadn't looked through any of the posters. Hmm.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:47 PM
Sold a similar tub last week, seller also proclaimed ignorance, "let me know if you find some gems":

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-11-15%20at%202.46.18%20PM_zpsowb2nevk.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2017, 02:51:05 PM
I do not believe for a single second that the seller didn't go thru it and removed what was worth a little something.  I'd love for someone on this forum to prove me wrong and buy the lot.  It won't be me, though.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 15, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 15, 2017, 02:51:05 PM
I do not believe for a single second that the seller didn't go thru it and removed what was worth a little something.  I'd love for someone on this forum to prove me wrong and buy the lot.  It won't be me, though.

T

Even if he didn't go through it, remember that he bought it as a bulk lot and the previous owner likely cherry picked it.  It would be fun to look it over, but IMO it is currently bid above its worth.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2017, 03:56:20 PM
Let alone the $101.46 he wants for STANDARD shipping!  jawdrop uhno
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 15, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: rumble on November 15, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
A "tub full of movie posters" on eBay. I wonder if this has anything worthwhile in it?!
Would love to hear from the buyer in case someone here gets it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222714552187?rmvSB=true

(Also in case someone is worried about "outing", this is the most watched poster auction on eBay so fair game I would say!)

That he cant take 30 minutes to count how many posters the tub holds seems unrealistic, too ("There could be 599 posters, and there could be 901, the numbers are estimates").

Plus if the seller has NEVER been thru the contents, then how could he possibly know that the posters date in range from the 1940s thru the 1990s?

(I see the one folded on the top is for Taming of the West, originally released in 1939). Tho that folded copy could be this '49RR, too:

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7662;image)

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7664;image)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2017, 11:07:43 PM
Just went through the new HA catalog.  Lots of good stuff for sale this Saturday, hopefully some with my name on it.  Four total, so quite manageable.

They must all drop by 5pm PST when the USC/UCLA game begins.  We all have our priorities.  Plus I don't want to be the idiot on his phone during the game.

Nothing Sunday, which will please my wife.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 15, 2017, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 15, 2017, 11:07:43 PM
Just went through the new HA catalog.  Lots of good stuff for sale this Saturday, hopefully some with my name on it.  Four total, so quite manageable.

They must all drop by 5pm PST when the USC/UCLA game begins.  We all have our priorities.  Plus I don't want to be the idiot on his phone during the game.

Nothing Sunday, which will please my wife.

T

I've never done a live session with HA.  I am bidding on 1 item, and I think my internet proxy is as high as I am willing to go.  Do I need to be on the phone for the live session, or will they keep applying my proxy during the live session.  Right now it is less than 1/3 of my proxy bid.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 15, 2017, 11:26:30 PM
Good question.  I'm not 100% sure since I always bid live, usually on my phone.  If I can't bid live, like after 5pm, I simply stop bidding.

I imagine they will keep applying your proxy until someone overbids you, which I'm sure won't happen (unless you go against me  devil 2).

Good luck,

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2017, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on November 15, 2017, 11:13:49 PM
keep applying my proxy during the live session.

that ^^
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on November 16, 2017, 05:37:43 AM
Why bid by phone? The online bidding system works fine.

What I'm following - they royally screwed up on PF, 69 watchers:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-11-16%20at%205.35.10%20AM_zpsbi7mejzm.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on November 16, 2017, 06:16:36 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 15, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
That he cant take 30 minutes to count how many posters the tub holds seems unrealistic, too ("There could be 599 posters, and there could be 901, the numbers are estimates").

Plus if the seller has NEVER been thru the contents, then how could he possibly know that the posters date in range from the 1940s thru the 1990s?

I s'pose he can sell his stuff however he wants.  But I daresay it took him longer to write his blurb than it would have taken to count the bloody things.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: rumble on November 16, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: Simes on November 16, 2017, 06:16:36 AM
I s'pose he can sell his stuff however he wants.  But I daresay it took him longer to write his blurb than it would have taken to count the bloody things.

Yeah well, I find it really hard to believe he didn't go through the stash, especially as he is a poster dealer...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 16, 2017, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 16, 2017, 06:16:36 AM
I s'pose he can sell his stuff however he wants.  But I daresay it took him longer to write his blurb than it would have taken to count the bloody things.

Very true. Anyone can sell things however they want. I was meaning that I thought it would better benefit him (sales-wise) if he gave a number that wasnt a 300 spread difference. As well as maybe listing at least a handful of titles, by unfolding the 3-5 that are on top of the pile. Cant get easier than that, I dont think.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 16, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on November 16, 2017, 05:37:43 AM
Why bid by phone? The online bidding system works fine.

What I'm following - they royally screwed up on PF, 69 watchers:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-11-16%20at%205.35.10%20AM_zpsbi7mejzm.jpg)

Mel, if you intend to go after all these, why in the world would you advertise them?  I’m glad none of mine are in your group, because I’d be pissed.

Well, good luck to us all.  I’m excited.

And to Matt who is selling something nice.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 16, 2017, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2017, 11:38:21 PM
that ^^

Exactly.

During the live auction, you will hear the auctioneer mention if a next high bid is "on the book." That book number would be someone's proxy bid that is higher than the HA live, or phone bid that was just offered.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on November 16, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 16, 2017, 01:35:10 PM
Exactly.

During the live auction, you will hear the auctioneer mention if a next high bid is "on the book." That book number would be someone's proxy bid that is higher than the HA live, or phone bid that was just offered.

Thanks everybody.  I will stay away from live bidding then.  I'm always afraid that my emotions will overrule my judgement.  I try to bid analytically and steer clear from the final frenzy.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: 50s on November 16, 2017, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 16, 2017, 01:29:44 PM
Mel, if you intend to go after all these, why in the world would you advertise them?  I’m glad none of mine are in your group, because I’d be pissed.


Mel is not going after these as per his advised budget constraint of only spending $25 per month or thereabouts
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: brude on November 16, 2017, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 16, 2017, 04:13:42 PM
Mel is not going after these as per his advised budget constraint of only spending $25 per month or thereabouts

Looks like Mel is going to the Ramen Nutra-Diet soon.

(http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201503_2139_bechh_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 16, 2017, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 16, 2017, 04:13:42 PM
Mel is not going after these as per his advised budget constraint of only spending $25 per month or thereabouts

I see.  Is that why you’re showing us these posters, Mel, because you do not intend to bid on them?  If so, what’s the point?  Personally, I do not believe the $25 bullshit.  Mel’s got the bug, and ain’t nothing gonna hold him down.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on November 16, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
300+ watchers on these 7, very few of them on this board no doubt, 25+pre-existing bids, in an auction process that always attracts 1000+ bidders and $2.5+ million sales, so not exactly breaking or revelatory news.....

Still running on BAT fumes $....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 17, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
On the eve of the auction, it has crept up to $180K ($215,100 with the BP).  clap clap clap

I wonder where it will climb to tomorrow?

Dracula (Universal, 1931). One Sheet (27" X 41") Style A.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/dracula-universal-1931-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-a/a/7167-86267.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F6%2F0%2F9%2F2%2F16092229%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on November 18, 2017, 12:50:23 AM
Good luck to our buddy Matt who is selling this Italian Casablanca tomorrow.  Already at $90k. 

Wonder how much higher it can go?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4582/37607444105_fc8d907dba_o.png)

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on November 18, 2017, 01:12:11 AM
And to think that emp sold a backed copy, way back in 2005, for a mere $5586.92

I guess it shows that RR can be as collectible as first releases, if the title is right.

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5218994.html

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=7697;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on November 18, 2017, 02:18:52 AM
$90K for a 1960s re-release? Wild and out of control!

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Wreck_zpsne1nzws2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: timelessmoviemagic on November 18, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
Is the Casablanca's Harry Caul Matt?

That's already an amazing result on that poster.

Let's hope it goes even higher on the day. Good luck!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on November 18, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
Mentally prepping myself for battles with my bank account AND other poster nerds!

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/o2oONNvsm3rUarf8wQgf4w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NTAwO2g9Mzc3/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/ca6db50f6a37c15c951b4098678c543c)

(https://fsmedia.imgix.net/fa/90/2c/1d/2015/497a/95d5/71e80ac7a77f/kirk-vs-evil-spockgif.gif?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=500&gifq=35)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/7ee0ee14422dc944ab76075163f0ffb0/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on November 18, 2017, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 18, 2017, 12:50:23 AM
Good luck to our buddy Matt who is selling this Italian Casablanca tomorrow.  Already at $90k. 

Wonder how much higher it can go?


Anyone who would sell a Casablanca at an outlet other than HA right now needs to have their head examined.

Quite possibly, that might apply to anyone considering selling any 5-figure plus poster. You either want to attract the biggest buyers or you don't.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 18, 2017, 10:53:10 AM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on November 18, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
Is the Casablanca's Harry Caul Matt?

Yes.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on November 18, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Amazing that a poster for a 20 year RR would gather this kind of steam.

I guess it just goes to show that those who LOVE this film (or any, for that matter) and want a piece of it, are willing to pay up, even for a much later RR.

Regardless, good for you, Matt! And here's hoping it goes even higher!!   cheers

pcorn

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Post by: Harry Caul on November 18, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 18, 2017, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 18, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Regardless, good for you, Matt! And here's hoping it goes even higher!!   cheers

yep.. good luck & congrats already!
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Post by: erik1925 on November 18, 2017, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 18, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
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Matt, how long did you yourself own that Casa poster? When did you pick that copy up?
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Post by: ladeda on November 18, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on November 18, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
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Congrats already due Matt! Here's hoping it completely smashes it. notworthy.gif
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Post by: guest4955 on November 18, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 18, 2017, 10:49:00 AM
Anyone who would sell a Casablanca at an outlet other than HA right now needs to have their head examined.

Quite possibly, that might apply to anyone considering selling any 5-figure plus poster. You either want to attract the biggest buyers or you don't.


Congrats Matt!

*****

Wonder why Ira Resnick took his hoard to Bonhams?

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen20Shot202017-11-1820at201.19.5920PM_zpsrdcig5z7.jpg?t=1510942926)
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on November 18, 2017, 11:49:32 PM
Zowie, Matt! That was yours? Bravo, pal!  Well done.

How did you do, Mel? Did you have your phasers set on stun, kill or obliterate?

I got one thing and then I was done. Nothing too fancy (Hello? It's me. You know my taste...). I'll save it for my next posting on my thread.

Congrats to all who won something or sold well.

CHEERS!
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Post by: rumble on November 20, 2017, 12:02:40 PM
Quote from: rumble on November 15, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
A "tub full of movie posters" on eBay. I wonder if this has anything worthwhile in it?!
Would love to hear from the buyer in case someone here gets it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222714552187?rmvSB=true

(Also in case someone is worried about "outing", this is the most watched poster auction on eBay so fair game I would say!)

The tub ended up selling for US $1,125.00 with 30 bids, roughly 2 bucks per poster plus shipping.
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Post by: rumble on November 20, 2017, 12:04:38 PM
Oh and I just saw this on the seller's feedback!

ONLY 340 Posters! Not even close to 6-900 as listed. Poor Condition. Very Unhappy

Lot of 600 - 900 original vintage 27x41 one sheet movie posters! 1930s - 1990s! (#222704264220)

So pretty much a scam as expected then.
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Post by: crowzilla on November 20, 2017, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: rumble on November 20, 2017, 12:04:38 PM
Oh and I just saw this on the seller's feedback!

ONLY 340 Posters! Not even close to 6-900 as listed. Poor Condition. Very Unhappy
Lot of 600 - 900 original vintage 27x41 one sheet movie posters! 1930s - 1990s! (#222704264220)

Buyer should have immediately filed a dispute with ebay for item not as described. Not even 60% of the lowest number of items advertised.
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Post by: Simes on November 21, 2017, 03:01:06 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-poster-small/162766311627?hash=item25e5a0d0cb:g:MPEAAOSwx2dYJRxb

At the time of popping this up, this guy had neither photo nor description...!
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Post by: guest4955 on December 12, 2017, 10:49:25 AM
Love the $0.96 price  eyeroll

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-12-11%20at%201.13.16%20PM_zpsz28mvaic.jpg)

*****

Why not price it 4X higher than any MP has sold before?  eyeroll

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-12-11%20at%201.12.26%20PM_zpsgmashkfc.jpg)

Nice pics:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600-10_zpsxw1tdsmz.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600-5_zpsxzjbfebf.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600-2_zpsyqti7ffu.jpg)
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Post by: jayn_j on December 12, 2017, 11:23:30 AM
When someone posts to ebay with that high a price, I doubt they intend to sell.  More likely they are doing 1 of 2 things.  They could simply be bragging that they own something really cool.  More likely they are setting a stake in the ground to claim a high declared value for insurance purposes.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 13, 2017, 10:31:58 AM
Todd also puts these high priced beauties in to draw people to look at the variety of other, much lower priced posters he has for sale, too.

Classic eye candy to pull potential buyers in.
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Post by: Simes on January 11, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
What's this?

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/you-only-live-twice-united-artists-1967-partial-poster-485-x-29-james-bond/p/161803-24005.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

The right edging reminds of some 1940's Saint lobby cards I had whereby the side edge looked as though perhaps the card had been ripped from a book or some such.  A slightly deckled effect.

As to what this poster is, is anyone's guess?  Was from a larger format?  Or, was it torn from something holding it in place?  The fold lines all look equidistant.

Thoughts?
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 11, 2018, 06:41:24 PM
Don’t know but it uses the doctored/censored US are so maybe that can narrow it?  Maybe a banner of some sort? At 29” tall and who knows how long your guess is as good as mine! 
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Post by: erik1925 on January 11, 2018, 11:08:58 PM
Is this "live" ??

Or is it Memorex?  ;)

With a BIN of $2720.00

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1947-CASABLANCA-Belgian-Humphrey-Bogart-Ingrid-Bergman-Warner-Bros/191878847495?hash=item2cacdedc07:g:2qwAAOSwmgJY28K5

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8088;image)
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Post by: jayn_j on January 12, 2018, 10:33:05 AM
What makes you think it is a fake?  Multiple censor stamps, signs of usage.  I'd say the wrinkles come from removing it from wherever it was pasted to.

It seems way too much effort to disguise a repro in order to sell it at a low price.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 12, 2018, 11:00:14 AM
Maybe better to ask if it's a first release or later RR (as this discussion has come up before with Belgians for this title).

And, to me, it doesnt look like it was ever pasted to anything and later removed, but improperly and overly folded over time, hence the multiple, horizontal creases.
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 12, 2018, 11:07:37 AM
No map on the back.  Can anyone identify these stamps or cancellations?

(https://i.imgur.com/riazwGt.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/qwTkNYi.png)
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 12, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
None of this is definitive, but I thought I'd share the results of browsing of Belgian tax stamps over the last hour...  ;D

STYLE 1 -- MAID MARIAN style

(https://i.imgur.com/qwTkNYi.png)

I think this is the same stamp, on this 40's issued, map-backed poster:

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/war/across-the-pacific-warner-brothers-late-1940s-first-post-war-release-belgian-1125-x-1675-war/a/161739-54007.s

This Naughty Nineties poster from 1945 as well:

http://www.moviemem.com/products/comedy-movie-posters/the-naughty-nineties-original-belgian-movie-poster

Same stamp still in use in 1954:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEN-WANTED-MEN-ORIGINAL-1954-BELGIAN-POSTER-RANDOLPH-SCOTT-COWBOY-ON-HORSE/252465444172?hash=item3ac81cf54c:g:gUAAAOSwZVlXjB6i

And in 1955 with Underwater!:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ADVENTURE-JANE-RUSSELL-UNDERWATER-ORIGINAL-belgian-poster/192357192835?hash=item2cc961d483:g:e4EAAOSwmBhaAYy4

STYLE 2 -- CATWOMAN style

(https://i.imgur.com/FpFtMab.png)


On this 1956 poster the stamp appears to be different:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Man-from-Del-Rio-1956-Belgian-Poster/140742744843?hash=item20c4ebdb0b:g:2R0AAOSw9LxZrXTd

This one also uses the later/different stamp and is dated 1958:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Belgian-Movie-Poster-TARANTULA-original-vintage-trimmed-at-top-with-stamps-folds-/112725984406


STYLE 3 -- EVERYBODY GOT SHOULDERS ALL OF A SUDDEN style

(https://i.imgur.com/3vbn0gU.png)


This Horror of Dracula is likely from 1959 and uses both the 'catwoman' 2nd style and a new 'shoulders' 3rd style stamp:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HORROR-OF-DRACULA-CHRISTOPHER-LEE-FIRST-RELEASE-BELGIAN-14-X-22-INCH-POSTER/171625937839?hash=item27f5b3fbaf:g:Cq4AAOSw7ThUpctU

The 'shoulders' 3rd style appears in use through the mid 1960s:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EL-DORADO-ORIGINAL-1966-BELGIAN-POSTER-GREAT-JOHN-WAYNE-ROBERT-MITCHUM-ART/261655850409?hash=item3cebe76da9:g:57IAAOxybetSDBIo
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Post by: erik1925 on January 12, 2018, 12:25:41 PM
Great info there, Matt.

And I never realized the nice artwork that went into many of the Belgian tax stamps.

Here's an enlarged image from one of the links you offered above (clicking on the image will enlarge it further):

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8090;image)

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Post by: erik1925 on January 16, 2018, 12:49:31 PM
This entire collection can be yours.. for $25,100.00 (obo)  faint2.gif

Local pickup or he will deliver locally Only.

Yet the seller doesnt know how many pieces in total, doesnt give even a partial list of titles nor has he been thru everything, per his description. And the way he has rolled posters stored.. it looks like rolls of stuff, some rubber banded together, are just tossed in a closet. Edge damage, anyone? Ouch!  Doh.gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Collection-of-Original-Vintage-Movie-Posters-One-sheet-insert-six-sheet/222745154673?hash=item33dca55471:g:5U4AAOSw-olaJxml

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/A24AAOSwTmtaJxmz/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bU0AAOSwhqhaJxmx/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 16, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
This is so exciting.  Is the gross hand part of the deal?

T
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Post by: jayn_j on January 16, 2018, 02:03:14 PM
He puts some teasers in, but can't come up with anything that Bruce would sell, except in a bulk lot.  In addition to Jeff's comments, he also freely admits that he has been cherry picking and selling more desirable items on eBay.  I am willing to bet that what is left is fish wrapping.  $25k??  Even assuming there are 5000 posters here, that comes out to $5/poster, far above the value of the junk he actually showed.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 16, 2018, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 16, 2018, 02:01:33 PM
This is so exciting.  Is the gross hand part of the deal?

T

You never know.  ;D
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Post by: erik1925 on January 16, 2018, 02:34:16 PM
The same seller is offering this, too...

For a cool $16,595.00 (BIN) (frame NOT included).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-Style-C-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-ROLLED-Very-Rare/222762945569?hash=item33ddb4cc21:g:-IQAAOSwzlZaOhwR

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8128;image)



And this, for $5295.00 (BIN)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-CLOCKWORK-ORANGE-Original-Vintage-ROLLED-27x41-one-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Kubri/222788275407?hash=item33df374ccf:g:XfQAAOSwogpaU9MQ

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8130;image)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 16, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
that bulk lot is worth paying $1500
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Post by: erik1925 on January 28, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
What a mish mash of an Aussie daybill. Based on the credits at the bottom, this is a RR daybill for Son of Frankenstein, but to look at it, one might think it was a possible RR for the original Frankenstein, especially with that image of Fritz tormenting the Monster on the lower half.

But then -- to add to the mix -- the Aussie art dept decided to also use a picture of Bela Lugosi as the Monster, from Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man.

What a design nightmare. Confusion? Or  verydrunk.gif potroll.gif at its finest.    ;D

Even the seller thinks it's from the '31 flick, based on his auction title.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRANKENSTEIN-Boris-Karloff-Colin-Clive-Mae-Clarke-James-Whale-Rare-Orig-Daybill/253382684572?hash=item3afec8ef9c:g:A8MAAOSw3xJVaLrT

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8215;image)
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Post by: okiehawker on January 28, 2018, 08:15:28 PM
Kind of fun to have Karloff and Lugosi together as the monster on one poster.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 28, 2018, 08:57:21 PM
Fun, yes.  But a terrible and maybe (drunken) design.  ;D

But it's not the first time.
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Post by: Simes on January 29, 2018, 09:38:25 AM
Quote from: Simes on January 11, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
What's this?

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/you-only-live-twice-united-artists-1967-partial-poster-485-x-29-james-bond/p/161803-24005.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

The right edging reminds of some 1940's Saint lobby cards I had whereby the side edge looked as though perhaps the card had been ripped from a book or some such.  A slightly deckled effect.

As to what this poster is, is anyone's guess?  Was from a larger format?  Or, was it torn from something holding it in place?  The fold lines all look equidistant.

Thoughts?

Well, seems someone is on the ball and has the reprints out and ready.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/YOU-ONLY-LIVE-TWICE-POSTER-TEASER-STYLE-BRITISH-ART-UNIQUE-AT-EBAY-6-99/263456413628?hash=item3d5739d7bc:g:gJUAAOSwvktaaG0o

However, the original from whence all this interest has come, sold on HA for $9000....!!!  FFS! 

And, observing the number 2, bottom left corner, there are likely to be another two out there...

Bearing in mind no one (we know) knows anything about this poster, and that this could make interest go both ways, I am amazed at this price.  UK Quads can go for between £1k and £2k, just to provide the context.
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Post by: crowzilla on January 29, 2018, 11:51:34 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 28, 2018, 12:51:16 PM
What a mish mash of an Aussie daybill. Based on the credits at the bottom, this is a RR daybill for Son of Frankenstein, but to look at it, one might think it was a possible RR for the original Frankenstein, especially with that image of Fritz tormenting the Monster on the lower half.

But then -- to add to the mix -- the Aussie art dept decided to also use a picture of Bela Lugosi as the Monster, from Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man.


That large first image is of Chaney from Ghost of Frankenstein and is based on the Realart release posters (using a very famous still of Chaney in makeup).
he head at the bottom is Karloff from Son of Frankenstein.
I don't see a Lugosi image anywhere on the poster.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 29, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
My bad. At first glance, I thought that was Lugosi as the Monster, behind the skull image.  Doh.gif

The Realart GOF is a really good looking poster too, btw.

(http://img.moviepostershop.com/the-ghost-of-frankenstein-movie-poster-1942-1020143650.jpg)
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Post by: guest4955 on January 29, 2018, 06:17:53 PM
Star of the show, so far:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf-2_zpsram1ib4n.jpeg)

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-mummy-universal-1933-pre-war-belgian-245-x-335-/p/7178-51012.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/the-mummy-universal-1933-pre-war-belgian-245-x-335-/p/7178-51012.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515)

Belgian, est 60K+
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Post by: okiehawker on January 29, 2018, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 29, 2018, 11:51:34 AM
That large first image is of Chaney from Ghost of Frankenstein and is based on the Realart release posters (using a very famous still of Chaney in makeup).
he head at the bottom is Karloff from Son of Frankenstein.
I don't see a Lugosi image anywhere on the poster.

Good catch, Crowzilla! 
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Post by: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
I think this is the star at Heritage so far (though I know they'e got another one of a kind Casablanca coming also):

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F7%2F1%2F6%2F4%2F17164012%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

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Post by: erik1925 on January 30, 2018, 10:54:14 AM
Great looking piece, there, Sean.

What size is that?

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Post by: guest4955 on January 30, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
I think this is the star at Heritage so far (though I know they'e got another one of a kind Casablanca coming also):


Funny how 1,000 boats get launched when news of gold comes to shore....  ;D
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Post by: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 30, 2018, 10:54:14 AM
What size is that?

It is a tatekan, so somewhere around 20" wide and 58" tall.
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Post by: Harry Caul on January 30, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
I think this is the star at Heritage so far (though I know they'e got another one of a kind Casablanca coming also):

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F7%2F1%2F6%2F4%2F17164012%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Amazing poster for sure – – I’ve been collecting out of Japan for years now and its the only copy I’ve heard of!  But is it really one-of-a-kind?  Surely more copies of this poster exist in private collections in Japan…

Very excited to see what it will do stateside  pcorn
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Post by: eric160634 on January 30, 2018, 12:09:33 PM
This seems a little high:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253395916147?ul_noapp=true

Being very rare doesn't mean it is very valuable .
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Post by: guest4955 on January 30, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
Funny, Mickey Mouse hitting public domain soon, and Disney is not trying to extend copyright coverage this time...

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf_zpsryfiiaf8.jpeg~original)

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/ (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/01/hollywood-says-its-not-planning-another-copyright-extension-push/)
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Post by: erik1925 on January 30, 2018, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: eric160634 on January 30, 2018, 12:09:33 PM
This seems a little high:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253395916147?ul_noapp=true

Being very rare doesn't mean it is very valuable .

The price asked for that sure seems stratosphere high, I agree with you there, eric160634.

What would something like that actually sell for, I wonder? A couple hundred bucks, maybe?  dontknow.gif

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8241;image)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 30, 2018, 01:40:22 PM
OMG, I need to buy that so bad!!!  Let me know when it's down to $2.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Harry Caul on January 30, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
Amazing poster for sure – – I’ve been collecting out of Japan for years now and its the only copy I’ve heard of!  But is it really one-of-a-kind?  Surely more copies of this poster exist in private collections in Japan…

Very excited to see what it will do stateside  pcorn

Over 25 years of going to Japan and meeting collectors for me now, and I've never seen or heard of another copy - and I know where four copies of the tatekan for Godzilla are off the top of my head for comparison.
(but I'm also an American, so my opinion isn't worth much.)

Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on January 30, 2018, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
Over 25 years of going to Japan and meeting collectors for me now, and I've never seen or heard of another copy - and I know where four copies of the tatekan for Godzilla are off the top of my head for comparison.
(but I'm also an American, so my opinion isn't worth much.)

 ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Harry Caul on January 30, 2018, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 30, 2018, 01:42:40 PM
Over 25 years of going to Japan and meeting collectors for me now, and I've never seen or heard of another copy - and I know where four copies of the tatekan for Godzilla are off the top of my head for comparison.
(but I'm also an American, so my opinion isn't worth much.)

Thanks, quite helpful.  I still haven't seen a Godzilla STB turn up publicly :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ddilts399 on January 31, 2018, 09:50:05 AM
I'm ready for 70mmWIDESCREEN to retire or find a new hobby  :(
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on January 31, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-james-bond-quad-poster/173131486517?hash=item284f70d535:g:cMYAAOSwFnxaXM-L

Am sure this one will be snapped up, quicksnap.

Lovely job all round.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: skyjackers on January 31, 2018, 03:11:07 PM
I wonder what you think of this very rare Bond poster Simes? Worth the money?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAMES-BOND-RAREST-MOVIE-POSTER-IN-EXISTENCE-AUTHENTIC-1973-NSS-WARHOL-STYLE/391967382368?_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49893%26meid%3D8bb644918e4a47c887199ea2ddde182b%26pid%3D100013%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D162830088041%26itm%3D391967382368&_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on January 31, 2018, 06:02:39 PM
Yeah, I did note that auction.

While the Mrs Minneva (who is a He, I now understand) is a force to be reckoned with in the poster universe, at least from the prices s/he charges, I am not sure what Warhol had to do with either the poster design, or the sepia / oranged thing you see before you? 

Has any of the artwork changed?  Nope.  Just a colour graded example of what was the finalized design.

For my personal interest and knowledge (or lack thereof), no interest at all.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on January 31, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
Call this "Why I decided to pass on this swing time lobby"

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SWING-TIME-Original-Lobby-Card-10-25-x13-25-C8-5-Very-Fine-Near-Mint-Restored/282830480280?hash=item41da02a398:g:4BAAAOSwqu9U3p5g
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/EU4AAOSwstxU3p6V/s-l1600.jpg)

The seller has been listing this for some time.  Recently he has it for $699.  Says the card has been trimmed to 10.25" x 13.25". Then he says card is condition 8.5!  He says the pictures show it against a board, but not mounted, but it sure looks mounted to me.  Finally he says minor restoration was done and the card was a condition 5-5.5 before restoration.

While doing my homework, I find that this poster was sold by heritage in 2014 for $191.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/musical/swing-time-rko-1936-trimmed-lobby-card-1025-x-1325-musical/a/161442-53477.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Does this look C-5 to you?
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F9%2F2%2F8%2F11928348%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Moral.  If you are buying on eBay, be damned sure to do your homework.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 09:17:32 AM
Seems that ebay seller doesnt know the difference between when something that has been trimmed down or not (restoration aside).
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
If you think this isn't important because you don't collect musicals, you might want to check out the seller's other auctions.  Lots of monster/horror, including one unicorn.  But remember this post before bidding.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 09:17:32 AM
Seems that ebay seller doesnt know the difference between when something that has been trimmed down or not (restoration aside).

I am just amazed that he didn't have the borders restored, given the amount of work that was done.  The work also appears to be sloppy.  The title looks dipped in paint.  The censor mark was airbrushed out, leaving faint traces, but removing any texture detail of the dance floor.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 11:22:10 AM
Jay, my thought was, too, that according to the description from HA on the same card they auctioned, the size of that card seems correct at 10.25 x 13.25 inches, and it was never trimmed.

The way the ebay auction reads, the seller states that it was originally 14 x 11 inches, and even restored, was done so, but left smaller.

Like the homework you did, Jay, had that seller bothered to look on the HA auction history, he would have seen that this card was never the larger 14 x 11 to begin with.

So as you said, homework is key, when buying from the ebay folk.

And I will look to see what other stuff he's offering, too.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
No, the card was definitely trimmed before the HA sale.  Look at the few cards sold by HA and emovieposter archives.  They are all 11x14 except this one.  Even the HA listing says
Quote
An unrestored trimmed lobby card
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 11:54:54 AM
Thanks.  ;)

I guess the java hadnt kicked in yet, as I looked right past the descrip. in the HA title, too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on February 01, 2018, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 11:22:10 AM
Jay, my thought was, too, that according to the description from HA on the same card they auctioned, the size of that card seems correct at 10.25 x 13.25 inches, and it was never trimmed.

Huh? Are you suggesting that the card was printed that size?
Seems fairly obvious it is trimmed to me
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 12:04:20 PM
See my very last comment. I realized my oversight.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
No, the card was definitely trimmed before the HA sale.  Look at the few cards sold by HA and emovieposter archives.  They are all 11x14 except this one.  Even the HA listing says

Interesting (merely from an observational POV) how both the ebay and HA cards were trimmed to the very same dimensions, too.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
Interesting (merely from an observational POV) how both the ebay and HA cards were trimmed to the very same dimensions, too.

It is clearly the same card.  You can see the ghost of the censor stamp in his image and also the way the title is dipped in paint to cover that mess.  The restorer had to replace 2 corners and fix a bunch of edge tears, so I am puzzled why he didn't just replace the trimmed borders as well.  It was the condition 8.5/trimmed description that initially led me to do the search.  I may very well have pulled the trigger if it had been full size.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: JCM on February 01, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 31, 2018, 09:50:05 AM
I'm ready for 70mmWIDESCREEN to retire or find a new hobby  :(

Glad I'm not the only one, haha!
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: ddilts399 on January 31, 2018, 09:50:05 AM
I'm ready for 70mmWIDESCREEN to retire or find a new hobby  :(

For my last few lobby card auctions it is NOAH27.  He doesn't seem to have a limit and is bidding high on everything in sight.  Probably high bid on 2/3 of the highest priced lots for tonight.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
It is clearly the same card.  You can see the ghost of the censor stamp in his image and also the way the title is dipped in paint to cover that mess.  The restorer had to replace 2 corners and fix a bunch of edge tears, so I am puzzled why he didn't just replace the trimmed borders as well.  It was the condition 8.5/trimmed description that initially led me to do the search.  I may very well have pulled the trigger if it had been full size.

If nothing else, the title font looks 1000% better than the card did, when HA offered it with all that pen mess that was added at some point in time. (And whoever the restorer was, he/she did a nice job, considering the previous, rather "abused" condition).  thumbup
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
If nothing else, the title font looks 1000% better than the card did, when HA offered it with all that pen mess that was added at some point in time. (And whoever the restorer was, he/she did a nice job, considering the previous, rather "abused" condition).  thumbup

I don't disagree, but if you do the homework, an condition 8 card of this title goes for around $700.  This one might go somewhat higher in that condition since it has Fred and Ginger dancing.  But since the borders weren't restored, and the signs of the restoration are visible, I really can't rate it much higher than condition 6
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 01, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Homework is everything... on this or any potential buy. Otherwise, one could get burned or ripped off.

But I was picking out one aspect of the card.. the title font. The 'before and after' is like night and day.

And grading is always so subjective. One person's grade of 5 can be another's 8 (or vise versa). So one needs to judge and grade, using one's own eyes (along with the images provided).  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 04, 2018, 05:14:44 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on February 01, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
It is clearly the same card.  You can see the ghost of the censor stamp in his image and also the way the title is dipped in paint to cover that mess.  The restorer had to replace 2 corners and fix a bunch of edge tears, so I am puzzled why he didn't just replace the trimmed borders as well.  It was the condition 8.5/trimmed description that initially led me to do the search.  I may very well have pulled the trigger if it had been full size.

I wrote to the seller asking if it was the same card. Here is his longer and detailed reply:

"You are correct. As you know, that Lobby card was in pretty tough condition at C5. It was one of the first ones I listed back in 2015 and I had just started to sell. Now, I describe be the previous condition, if restored, of all my more recent listings. This is a little different than some of the bigger dealers, like HA and Cinemasterpieces (whom I have also worked with), who list the restored item at the un-restored grade. But like I said, in my more recent listings, as I learn, I do state the unrestored grade and what was restored and I do abide by the tradition that any restored item cannot be graded higher tan C8.5.

I had the Lobby Card restored which was relatively expensive, and more expensive than the Card itself. Like you, I noticed the remnants of that censorship stamp. I talked to the restoration company that I use and they said it might be more noticeable f I were to have that section more "restored". Maybe not. But I was certain that it would mean more money. And since the One Sheet - Style A- is valued at the top at $12,500 (IGUIDE), I think that any serious collector interested in this time period or movie would value having this Lobby card, and upon purchase could consider further restoration.

I hope this helps. Thanks for your interest. Bruce"
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2018, 12:15:24 PM
Currently listed on yahoo auctions Japan, this B2 size poster for Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs. I was using google translate to see if the seller mentions what year it's from (i didn't come across that info), but from its general appearance and age, it certainly maybe could be a first release poster.

I think it's one beautiful poster.

Current price is 200,000 yen ($1836.00 USD)

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b295148184

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8294;image)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on February 08, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on February 08, 2018, 12:15:24 PM
Currently listed on yahoo auctions Japan, this B2 size poster for Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs. I was using google translate to see if the seller mentions what year it's from (i didn't come across that info), but from its general appearance and age, it certainly maybe could be a first release poster.

Yes, one of two different styles from the first release in 1950.
(I mean, if you want to take my word for it, I'm not Japanese after all.)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2018, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 08, 2018, 12:35:44 PM
Yes, one of two different styles from the first release in 1950.
(I mean, if you want to take my word for it, I'm not Japanese after all.)

ありがとう、ショーン   :D   thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2018, 05:32:43 PM
Starting bid is $49,000.00 (and being offered by fellow APF member "Partners65")

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GILDA-Style-B-Original-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-1946-Rita-Hayworth-on-LINEN/192450284799?hash=item2cceee4cff:g:6GYAAOSwfpBaaAgO

As a comparison, the last linen backed copy that HA sold of the same Style B, back in March 2017, sold for $22,705.00, inc. the BP.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/gilda-columbia-1946-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-b/a/7156-86021.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


This is a pic of the ebay copy being offered:

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8300;image)



Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 12, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
Quote from: Antoine1973 on February 11, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
Here are a couple more new acquisitions, The Mummy's Curse OS (1944), and The Indestructible Man 3S (1956).

With The Mummy's Curse, I now have first release paper on all 6 classic Universal monsters franchises (Dracula, Frankenstein, the Mummy, the Invisible Man, the Wolfman and the Creature from the Black Lagoon).  Along with the RKO Val Lewton cycle and Hammer films, this is one of the subgroups within my collection that I've been focusing on lately.  I like having a checklist of posters to acquire, it makes for a fun search and provides a nice feeling of satisfaction when a gap is filled.

I always liked the strong graphics on the 3-sheet for Indestructible Man, which I prefer to the one sheet, so I was happy to get my hands on this copy.

Ben, did you happen to see this other The Mummy's Curse 3 sheet, currently on ebay? Before you posted your copy, I thought maybe this was the one you might have gone for.

It's in need of some TLC and the seller describes it in "Poor condition." The paper and folds look rather brittle with some fold splitting in some spots, more so near the bottom right. I'm sure it would look great, once the right kind of minimal "love" and conservation was given to it.


Opening bid is $1999.90

https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-MUMMYS-CURSE-Universal-Three-Sheet-Poster-LON-CHANEY-MARTIN-KOSLECK/401488793469?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8343;image)

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8345;image)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: guest4955 on February 13, 2018, 04:43:08 AM
Never understood this but it's been several days now:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-02-13%20at%204.40.50%20AM_zpsjelox5qv.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Simes on February 13, 2018, 07:19:43 AM
Ok, I'll bite...

What haven't you understood?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on February 13, 2018, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: Simes on February 13, 2018, 07:19:43 AM
Ok, I'll bite...
What haven't you understood?

Me too.
Maybe he doesn't get why Heritage would promote heavy-hitter items a month in advance?
Or just why they would have the listing up before the photo?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 13, 2018, 11:31:37 AM
And who cares if the pic is slightly delayed on the HA listing, . We can read what the item will be, what its estimate is, and we all know it will be added there eventually.  :)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: CSM on February 13, 2018, 12:07:05 PM
(http://www.tariqradio.com/uploads/2/4/4/7/24470289/1829556_orig.png)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eric160634 on February 13, 2018, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on February 13, 2018, 04:43:08 AM
Never understood this but it's been several days now:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-02-13%20at%204.40.50%20AM_zpsjelox5qv.jpg)

It is probably easier to show everything in the database than it would be to specifically exclude items that are 'in progress.'
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Antoine1973 on February 15, 2018, 09:41:55 AM
Jeff, I did see that 3-sheef for The Mummy's Curse on eBay, and I was tempted at first, but its overall condition made me decide not to bid on it with such a high starting bid.  It ended up not finding a buyer, so I guess I wasn't the only one who felt that way.  Too bad because at the right price, I would have bought it.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on February 15, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
It will be interesting to see, should it be relisted, if the seller will reduce his opening bid price at all, or just stick with it.

The condition isnt all that bad, aside from that one area on the lower right corner with some vertical fold splitting & fraying. (And having to remove that tape from the back).

(And the comments/discussion about UNI horror market trends I split off and merged with the original thread that Rich started. Those comments are better suited there: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9106.0.html )
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: DekeThornton on February 19, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 18, 2016, 01:03:20 PM
I would wonder if the posters were owned by the museum itself? Or maybe on loan from private collectors? If that was the case, then I would think they would be returned to those folks, once the museum closed. If museum owned, then stored away until a new venue is opened? Or maybe they were sold / donated to another museum?

I happened to see this article today on CNN: Are the credits rolling for London's Cinema Museum? (http://www.cnn.com/style/article/london-cinema-museum/)

It implies that some of the items from the Museum of the Moving Image ended up at the The Cinema Museum, London (based in Lambeth).

I remember really enjoying the MOMI when I was a child living in London in the early '90s. I was surprised when I learned that it had closed.  I have never made it to the Cinema Museum on my few subsequent visits to London.  Though I've never been, it is sad to read that the museum is under threat. I will definitely put it on my list for my next London trip, whenever it is (assuming the museum stays, which I hope it does!)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
London After Midnight (1927), Argentinean style, once again being offered by HA this April, in their Sig Auction.   bed1

This copy estimated at $30-60K

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/london-after-midnight-mgm-1927-argentinean-one-sheet-29-x-43-a-wagener-artwork/p/7178-51010.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://i.imgur.com/kJ5Yj42.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: okiehawker on March 08, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
London After Midnight (1927), Argentinean style, once again being offered by HA this April, in their Sig Auction.   bed1

This copy estimated at $30-60K

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/london-after-midnight-mgm-1927-argentinean-one-sheet-29-x-43-a-wagener-artwork/p/7178-51010.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://i.imgur.com/kJ5Yj42.jpg)
  With the linen backing and restoration, I was trying to tell if this is a second copy or the same copy sold previously?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on March 08, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
  With the linen backing and restoration, I was trying to tell if this is a second copy or the same copy sold previously?

From the way the description reads, it sure sounds like this is another/different copy: "Heritage has had the distinction of bringing to auction an Argentinean one sheet only once before...."
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 08:02:49 PM
And it looks like the copy that Benito had for a long time for sale, is also gone/sold (his had a $65K price tag on it).

So maybe it's that copy, backed and lightly restored?  dontknow.gif

(https://i.imgur.com/eL8ajQ5.jpg)



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Post by: 110x75 on March 08, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
This probably will go for less than the previous copy since Kirk Hammet has one already.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 09:24:06 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on March 08, 2018, 07:37:43 PM
  With the linen backing and restoration, I was trying to tell if this is a second copy or the same copy sold previously?

Hey okie, in looking close at the Benito copy (which was un-restored/not backed and shows some small areas of cross fold paper loss) and the one HA is offering, the area of touch-up above the letter A of the word, "media" looks similar in size and shape to that of Benito's.

Not saying his copy is now HA's offering, but it could be.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: okiehawker on March 08, 2018, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 09:24:06 PM
Hey okie, in looking close at the Benito copy (which was un-restored/not backed and shows some small areas of cross fold paper loss) and the one HA is offering, the area of touch-up above the letter A of the word, "media" looks similar in size and shape to that of Benito's.

Not saying his copy is now HA's offering, but it could be.

I think you've got it , Jeff!  Good sleuthing.  Okie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2018, 04:18:17 AM
Benito had 2 copies
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: okiehawker on March 09, 2018, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2018, 04:18:17 AM
Benito had 2 copies

HI Richie, Do you think the two copies Benito had are the two Heritage has offered?  Okie
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2018, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2018, 04:18:17 AM
Benito had 2 copies

Rich, I recall a pic you took and posted one time (i'm pretty sure it was you), where Benito had one of his Arg. LAMs either taped or clipped to a window curtain, as part of his booth display, at a poster show (maybe Cinevent?). That was a classic visual.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: ladeda on March 12, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Benito's photos are *cough* difficult to go by to say the least.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2018, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: ladeda on March 12, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Benito's photos are *cough* difficult to go by to say the least.


True, but sometimes he does OK. The unrestored LAM I posted above was from his site.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 21, 2018, 01:37:29 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 08, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
London After Midnight (1927), Argentinean style, once again being offered by HA this April, in their Sig Auction.   bed1

This copy estimated at $30-60K

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/london-after-midnight-mgm-1927-argentinean-one-sheet-29-x-43-a-wagener-artwork/p/7178-51010.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://i.imgur.com/kJ5Yj42.jpg)

Now up to $17,925.00 (w/BP)
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Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2018, 04:02:15 PM
House Of Dracula US HS

The opening bid is $12,500.000

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253605219053?ViewItem=&item=253605219053

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/G70AAOSweM1aLcFX/s-l1600.jpg)

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Post by: crowzilla on May 06, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 06, 2018, 04:02:15 PM
House Of Dracula US HS
The opening bid is $12,500.000

that's not mid-auction analysis, it's will-never-sell analysis.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 06, 2018, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 06, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
that's not mid-auction analysis, it's will-never-sell analysis.

You know it.  faint2.gif
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Post by: erik1925 on May 11, 2018, 05:26:00 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on May 06, 2018, 06:46:44 PM
that's not mid-auction analysis, it's will-never-sell analysis.

Sean, it was re-listed (ends in 1 day+), with a lowered opening bid of an even $10K.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/House-Of-Dracula/253605219053?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

But, not surprisingly, no bids at that level, either.
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Post by: cabmangray on May 14, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
"a clean and bright" half sheet?? To my eye it looks a little sun faded. The poster is matted in a frame. The borders could be chewed up and full of pin holes. This guy is obviously fishing.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2018, 02:48:38 PM
It's now been dropped to an opening bid of $9,000.00

And I agree, the bluish color sure looks like this might have been exposed to sunlight for a period of time.

And with shipping only $3.75, I'd be a little concerned that this would be rolled up, and placed "naked" in a flimsy, light weight tube, possibly.  Doh.gif
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Post by: cabmangray on May 14, 2018, 02:56:12 PM
The only way I would even consider buying this (and I'm not) is to see it in person, out of the frame. Possibly the seller got lucky years ago and bought it for a song, or he knows nothing about movie paper but knows it's good title and wants the max for it. Now we play the "how low will it go" game.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2018, 03:35:01 PM
For sure.

And even if the frame was part of the deal (which it's not), the seller should photograph it out of the frame, since that's how it will be sent. Posters offered that have been photographed in frames can sometimes be a red flag, either hiding damage or printed information on the border, showing that it might be a reprint or reproduction.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 14, 2018, 04:06:22 PM
The same seller (frankiebaby) actually has 4 Uni horror pieces on ebay at the moment. All have little description and are framed, tho one piece he says he got from HA several years ago -- a HOUSE OF FRANK US H/S, also with a starting bid of $9 grand).

https://www.ebay.com/sch/frankiebaby/m.html?item=253620574291&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on May 14, 2018, 07:16:26 PM
he's got lots of great Frankenstein posters. He's probably getting ready to spend some money
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Post by: crowzilla on May 14, 2018, 10:25:48 PM
Quote from: cabmangray on May 14, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
"a clean and bright" half sheet?? To my eye it looks a little sun faded. .... This guy is obviously fishing.

Bingo
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2018, 12:27:40 AM
This House of Frank insert got no bids on the first go around - the opening bid was $12K

It's just been relisted, and the revised opening bid has been UPPED by 3 grand, to $15K!  Huh?  dontknow.gif GoOn.gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253623594050?ViewItem=&item=253623594050

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FnsAAOSwWUlarupy/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on May 15, 2018, 01:45:43 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on May 15, 2018, 12:27:40 AM
This House of Frank insert got no bids on the first go around - the opening bid was $12K
It's just been relisted, and the revised opening bid has been UPPED by 3 grand, to $15K!  Huh?  dontknow.gif GoOn.gif

That follows the Todd Feiertag theory of sales - "If you're not going to sell something, do it for a high price".
Then later, you can always say, this price is a bargain, it's been offered at 3X before.
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Post by: erik1925 on May 15, 2018, 03:04:14 PM
Seems so.  ;)
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Post by: eatbrie on May 24, 2018, 12:43:05 AM
Just checked Emovie's auction for tomorrow.  It's weird.  I kinda own everything listed :)  Except my posters are all in mint condition.  I don't do "Good to Very Good".  I just don't understand how so many modern posters can be in such poor shape.  What do people do with them?

T
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Post by: Simes on May 24, 2018, 05:42:04 AM
It's possible, Just possible mind, that some of the posters are ectually used for erm, advertising the film.

Popped up in a frame by someone who could care less.  Thinking about buying his girlfriend a shake at the new Shake 'em Up venue in the Mall.  Considering if he should wear Vans or Converse...  But, pretty much anything else other than the long term careful handling of a poster which may in time find itself being discussed on a forum.
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Post by: skyjackers on May 24, 2018, 05:49:50 AM
More importantly Simes you use the phrase ‘could care less’ I would have thought as a Brit (I pressume) you would have used the correct phrase, ‘couldn’t care less’

I’ve never understood this US version of the saying, and yes, I do have too much time on my hands today.

https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less
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Post by: eatbrie on May 24, 2018, 11:14:06 AM
Quote from: Simes on May 24, 2018, 05:42:04 AM
It's possible, Just possible mind, that some of the posters are ectually used for erm, advertising the film.

Popped up in a frame by someone who could care less.  Thinking about buying his girlfriend a shake at the new Shake 'em Up venue in the Mall.  Considering if he should wear Vans or Converse...  But, pretty much anything else other than the long term careful handling of a poster which may in time find itself being discussed on a forum.

That is funny!!!

 thumbsup.gif

T
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Post by: Simes on May 24, 2018, 05:13:38 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on May 24, 2018, 05:49:50 AM
More importantly Simes you use the phrase ‘could care less’ I would have thought as a Brit (I pressume) you would have used the correct phrase, ‘couldn’t care less’

I’ve never understood this US version of the saying, and yes, I do have too much time on my hands today.

https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less

You presume correctly, a be a Brit.

I must admit, I hadn't given that one any thought.  And I do try to give these things some thought.

Perhaps, being in and on an international forum, what you see before you is the homogenising of the English language to be a one-size-fits-all.  The various linguistic influences, pulling and pushing people this and that way.

From here on in, 'couldn't care less'.

Thank you.
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Post by: guest4955 on June 09, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
BR1 MPs are still selling for big $$$. This rare 28x42 "intra-studio use only" version at next HA Sig is estimated $3K+:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-09%20at%205.17.47%20PM_zpsvccwr5tv.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/lf-7_zpsk4jtoeth.jpeg)
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Post by: Chris9000 on June 10, 2018, 08:22:23 PM
She's a beaut' for sure, Mel.

Color and contrast look super... looks like maybe some missing paper on Rachel's wrist and the upper right corner though?

Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 09, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
BR1 MPs are still selling for big $$$. This rare 28x42 "intra-studio use only" version at next HA Sig is estimated $3K+:

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Post by: Neo on June 16, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Bruce Carteron on June 15, 2018, 01:13:41 PM

Donald Trump in The Apprentice (NBC, 2000's). Autographed Television Poster (21" X 28").
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/miscellaneous/donald-trump-in-the-apprentice-nbc-2000-s-autographed-television-poster-21-x-28-miscellaneous/a/161824-53112.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 (https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F1%2F5%2F18815450%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)



I wonder what the final result will be on this one.  Already up to $242.40.
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Post by: guest4955 on June 17, 2018, 05:04:28 PM
Ha, I was going to post that Apprentice "signed" poster too!

I'd say something nasty about it but, as Trevor Noah said "no point in being in an endless state of outrage about Donald Trump"  devil 2

30(ish) more months to live with him....
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on June 17, 2018, 10:43:56 PM
Quote from: TheSundanceKid on June 17, 2018, 05:04:28 PM
Ha, I was going to post that Apprentice "signed" poster too!

I'd say something nasty...


Imagine that... someone saying something nasty about President Trump.   starz.gif



 back to topic
Title: Re: LA Conf
Post by: guest4955 on June 18, 2018, 07:29:53 PM
KOOL-AID FOR EVERYBODY!  woohoo

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/ATT00006_zps1chhmffn.gif)

But pretty impressive buckaroos 4sure:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-18%20at%203.51.53%20PM_zpsncyczqfq.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on July 21, 2018, 01:32:33 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAMES-BOND-007-DR-NO-FRENCH-GRANDE-LIKE-BRAND-NEW/382519704958?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

This Dr No red Grande looks to be in utterly superb condition.

I know T has his copy.  Anyone else looking?
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Post by: erik1925 on July 21, 2018, 01:44:27 PM
Looks to be in totally unused condition, too, Simon.

How much do you think it will finally auction for? Any idea or guess?

(https://i.imgur.com/0nRs1g1.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on July 21, 2018, 07:43:28 PM
Gosh. T would likely know better than me.

£2k?

Your thoughts?
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Post by: erik1925 on July 21, 2018, 10:01:51 PM
Quote from: Simes on July 21, 2018, 07:43:28 PM
Gosh. T would likely know better than me.

£2k?

Your thoughts?

Just checked and the last copy to sell thru HA, in July 2017, sold for $1254.75 and that includes the BP. This was also a backed copy:

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/dr-no-united-artists-1962-french-grande-47-x-6275-purple-style-boris-grinsson-artwork/a/7162-86316.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


And this unbacked/folded copy sold for $1792.50 (inc the BP), back in July of 2015:

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/james-bond/dr-no-united-artists-1962-french-grande-47-x-63-purple-style/a/7109-87374.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
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Post by: Simes on July 22, 2018, 05:05:12 AM
Sorry, am a bit colour blind... the ebay one is the red version though, right?

Correct me if wrong, but I thought there were three versions of this poster, blue, purple and red...?  The red being the rarest variant? 

Anyway, 10hrs and we will see.
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Post by: 50s on July 22, 2018, 07:51:02 AM
Appreciate the uncensored boobs this week on a few posters over at EMP.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA180717/550/3sh_naked_maja_SD13938_B.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on July 22, 2018, 07:52:54 AM
Might have been the guy with the dots' week off...
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Post by: Simes on July 22, 2018, 03:08:51 PM
Went for £1053 in the end...
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Post by: eatbrie on July 23, 2018, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: Simes on July 22, 2018, 05:05:12 AM
Sorry, am a bit colour blind... the ebay one is the red version though, right?

Correct me if wrong, but I thought there were three versions of this poster, blue, purple and red...?  The red being the rarest variant? 

Anyway, 10hrs and we will see.

Yes, the red version is by far the rarest.  I don't think Emovie or Heritage have ever sold it.  I ended up buying the one yesterday because mine is a little damaged and I wanted a cleaner one.  Was it yours, Simes?

T
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Post by: erik1925 on July 23, 2018, 03:25:32 PM
Nothing like a $35,000.00 reserve! Wow!  faint2.gif

(Four others in the top 10 posters, when sorted by high price, also have a set reserve).


https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home-by-bob-peak-paramount-1987-signed-and-framed-original-mixed-media-poster-artwork-artwork-/a/7181-86392.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F9%2F3%2F18893872%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Simes on July 24, 2018, 03:49:29 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 23, 2018, 03:09:01 PM
Yes, the red version is by far the rarest.  I don't think Emovie or Heritage have ever sold it.  I ended up buying the one yesterday because mine is a little damaged and I wanted a cleaner one.  Was it yours, Simes?

T

Ah, so it was the Red version on eBay, I am not as colour blind as I thought, and you did have one?  Now, two.

No, on eBay I am simonfirth.  My actual name, which on the internet might seem radical!  But I do sort of know the guy through eBay as he has some items I am after but that now, the dope, he can't locate.

Anyway, this poster is in just lovely condition, so congrats sir.
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Post by: erik1925 on July 25, 2018, 05:39:02 PM
Beautiful linen finish, "special poster" from Blonde Venus (1932). Currently at $900.00

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/drama/blonde-venus-paramount-1932-special-linen-finish-full-bleed-one-sheet-27-x-40-charles-lennox-wright-ii-artwork/a/7181-86023.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116


The last time HA offered this poster, back in July 2015, it wasnt described as "linen finish" so I wonder if 2 formats were done on different paper? Or, are they the same style poster, both with the linen finish? The July 2015 copy sold, with the BP, for $896.25

In either case, what a beautiful portrait of Dietrich. Mama mia!  bed1

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/blonde-venus-paramount-1932-special-one-sheet-25-x-38-/a/7109-87131.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F0%2F9%2F18809425%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 25, 2018, 11:42:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 25, 2018, 05:39:02 PM
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F0%2F9%2F18809425%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

I thought that was a low price for this poster back in 2015, though it may have been a condition centric result.
I'm sure this one will be very successful.
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Post by: Neo on July 26, 2018, 09:05:36 PM
Quote from: greysm on July 26, 2018, 03:21:09 PM

Blade Runner (Warner Brothers, 1982). Autographed One Sheet (27" X 41") with COA, John Alvin Artwork.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/blade-runner-warner-brothers-1982-autographed-one-sheet-27-x-41-with-coa-john-alvin-artwork/a/7181-86344.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F6%2F4%2F18864326%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


This one is exceptional. Not often to have such a great film, poster, and the artist's signature, especially with such provenance.
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Post by: erik1925 on July 28, 2018, 02:21:27 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on July 25, 2018, 05:39:02 PM
Beautiful linen finish, "special poster" from Blonde Venus (1932). Currently at $900.00

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/drama/blonde-venus-paramount-1932-special-linen-finish-full-bleed-one-sheet-27-x-40-charles-lennox-wright-ii-artwork/a/7181-86023.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116


The last time HA offered this poster, back in July 2015, it wasnt described as "linen finish" so I wonder if 2 formats were done on different paper? Or, are they the same style poster, both with the linen finish? The July 2015 copy sold, with the BP, for $896.25

In either case, what a beautiful portrait of Dietrich. Mama mia!  bed1

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/drama/blonde-venus-paramount-1932-special-one-sheet-25-x-38-/a/7109-87131.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515


(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F8%2F8%2F0%2F9%2F18809425%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

This wen for $2600.00 clap
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Post by: Neo on August 07, 2018, 01:39:56 PM
This seller on Yahoo Japan has a lot of Japanese stuff, mostly B1s, from popular titles.  They're ending tomorrow, and most are between 1 and 22 yen (<$0.01-$0.02), the highest is at 42 yen (about $0.04).

https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/seller/hushikian125;_ylt=A7dPFtXw2GlbLioA2g.hGzx8?p=poster&auccat=20000&aq=-1&oq=&ei=UTF-8&anchor=1&slider=0 (https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/seller/hushikian125;_ylt=A7dPFtXw2GlbLioA2g.hGzx8?p=poster&auccat=20000&aq=-1&oq=&ei=UTF-8&anchor=1&slider=0)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 10, 2018, 03:22:46 PM
WOW!!!!  jawdrop.....as a lobby card collector....I can honestly say Bruce has a truly amazing collection of rare high quality material in part 3 of his Major Auction!!

There are at least 30 + pieces that I would love to have!! WAY TO GO!!!!!

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/14.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/14.html)

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Post by: redman on August 10, 2018, 03:25:13 PM
i just looked at EMP and Frankenstein title lobby card is already over $1.5k
i was suprised because it is a rerelease but i don't collect horror so i am mr clueless
will it go much higher than this? also, what is highest price for any rerelease lobby card?
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Post by: erik1925 on August 10, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
Quote from: redman on August 10, 2018, 03:25:13 PM
i just looked at EMP and Frankenstein title lobby card is already over $1.5k
i was suprised because it is a rerelease but i don't collect horror so i am mr clueless
will it go much higher than this? also, what is highest price for any rerelease lobby card?

Hey redman.

Back in 2007, Heritage sold a 1938 RR title lobby card for FRANKENSTEIN for $6572.50

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/frankenstein-universal-r-1938-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-this-universal-horror-classic-from-director-james-whale-scar/a/660-28338.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ArchiveSearchResults-012417&lotPosition=0|1

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F1%2F6%2F216986%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)


And this 1949 re-release card from THE WIZARD OF OZ sold for $7767.50 (also thru Heritage):

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/musical/the-wizard-of-oz-mgm-r-1949-lobby-card-11-x-14-/a/693-64888.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B3%2F3%2F1%2F5%2F3315908%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 10, 2018, 03:46:05 PM
Those Chan cards are far more scarce!  And there are a bunch of nice classic comedy pieces....Buster Keaton, Laurel and Hardy, Abbott & Costello...
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 10, 2018, 06:04:26 PM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5153213 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5153213)


(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b587/posterplunder/its%20love%20big_zpsdaycygxk.jpg)


This card is sneakily one of the hardest 1930's Bette Davis cards to find!!  It's nice to see her in her prime without all the heavy drama/period film makeup!


AND look at this lineup of cards under the search heading comedy!!  wow1 jawdrop 

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/tag/genre%253Acomedy/14.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/tag/genre%253Acomedy/14.html)
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Post by: cabmangray on August 10, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
Redman, Universal horror titles are at the top of the poster mountain. The 1938 reissue cards are the first time Frankenstein as well as Dracula were reissued. This reissue was so popular it lead Universal to bring back the 'ol monsters and it started the second cycle of horror classics beginning with Son of Frankenstein. As rare as the 1938 cards are, the Realart reissue lobby cards are even better since they were printed in full color.
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Post by: okiehawker on August 10, 2018, 11:13:08 PM
Darn, you guys already know about Bruce's auction!!!   Gentlemen, start your engines!  Okie
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Post by: okiehawker on August 12, 2018, 12:57:33 PM
Some engines appear to be burning way too much gas already at Bruce's auction for today, especially among the higher bidded items.  Breakfast with Audrey is humorous to me to watch its highs and lows among various auctions.  It's also kind of like the Forbidden Planet one sheet, which is beautiful, though was alway fairly common at early conventions: plenty of copies have seemingly always been around, even today copies are in almost every major auction.  I'm glad at least a few beautiful rarities I like are still sometimes overlooked.  I hope the same for what you all are hunting as well!  Okie
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Post by: jayn_j on August 12, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
OK, I don't get it
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5149113

Why does this even exist, and especially why did someone pay to have it linenbacked.

(https://i.imgur.com/9US1D5p.jpg)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 12, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 12, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
OK, I don't get it
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5149113

Why does this even exist, and especially why did someone pay to have it linenbacked.

pure idiocy
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Post by: crowzilla on August 12, 2018, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on August 12, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
OK, I don't get it
Why does this even exist, and especially why did someone pay to have it linenbacked.

It's the linenbacking part that really gets me. I understand that the idea of collecting in it's pure form isn't to make money, but looking at the results from today more than half the pieces sold didn't even sell for enough to cover the cost of backing, let alone what ever value the poster might have.

Hope that helps end the discussion of whether or not linenbacking adds value to a poster (but it won't).
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Post by: eatbrie on August 12, 2018, 07:55:25 PM
Ha, I saw the word “linenbacked” and didn’t even check Bruce’s auction.  I hope there wasn’t something rare enough to warrant linenbacking, the only reason to buy something linenbacked imo.  I’ll check the results later.

T
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Post by: cabmangray on August 12, 2018, 08:45:07 PM
I agree with you, eatbrie. I can understand if a poster is brittle, falling apart, damaged, or is so rare that it should be backed in order to protect and preserve it. 3-sheets and 6-sheets need to be backed, in my opinion, since trying to display them unbacked may incur damage to the poster. But why back something like a Goldfinger 1-sheet when there are enough perfectly fine unbacked examples around? Linen backing new, recent 1-sheets is just foolish and a waste of money.
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Post by: erik1925 on August 12, 2018, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: cabmangray on August 12, 2018, 08:45:07 PM
I agree with you, eatbrie. I can understand if a poster is brittle, falling apart, damaged, or is so rare that it should be backed in order to protect and preserve it. 3-sheets and 6-sheets need to be backed, in my opinion, since trying to display them unbacked may incur damage to the poster. But why back something like a Goldfinger 1-sheet when there are enough perfectly fine unbacked examples around? Linen backing new, recent 1-sheets is just foolish and a waste of money.

With you all the way on this, cabman. In addition I would also say that I would never linen back something just because it was rare. If a poster was rare and in good condition (and not in need of any kind of preservation, repair or conservation), I would leave it as is.
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Post by: Starling on August 12, 2018, 10:40:20 PM
And yet, I bet 99% of truly valuable posters (worth more than 10k) are linenbacked.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 14, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 12, 2018, 07:55:25 PM
Ha, I saw the word “linenbacked” and didn’t even check Bruce’s auction.  I hope there wasn’t something rare enough to warrant linenbacking, the only reason to buy something linenbacked imo.  I’ll check the results later.

T

Just checked Bruce's auctions.  Lots of Bardots there, but all linenbacked, so sitting out.  Why do people linenback so much?

T
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Post by: Neo on August 14, 2018, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 14, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Just checked Bruce's auctions.  Lots of Bardots there, but all linenbacked, so sitting out.  Why do people linenback so much?

T

Maybe because the average buyer is not stacking hundreds of them in flat file cabinets.

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And I agree, some great 3 sheets, etc. 
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 14, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Just checked Bruce's auctions.  Lots of Bardots there, but all linenbacked, so sitting out.  Why do people linenback so much?

T

A friend of mine owns a very prestige Vintage Poster brick and mortar high end gallery...they focus on large format European posters late 1800's-1950's including some film, war, advertising & related ephemera...Everything is linenbacked by professionals who trained in museum quality workshops etc and is an exceptionally clean operation...everything is reversible btw....they sell tens of thousands of posters in over 50 countries!

I asked him about the growing anathema to linenbacked posters and the trend in movie posters to pay a premium for folded unused posters at auction...here was his response

"Movie posters are the not the standard bearer of tastes in posters...they are a relatively new animal with an evolving presence in the poster world....and its far easier to find a nice folded movie poster post 1950 than it is to find a lesser Mucha or Cappiello that is in need of restoration and preservation...Just about everything in museums that is ever shown or displayed is backed...that is the standard..large format posters pre 1920 are remarkably hard to find in any condition...To display posters that are damaged and are increasingly volatile in a gallery setting is an evolution of preservation and display (they were not printed to be a collectors item and to be kept in perfect condition 70+ years later)  ..there is no way these disintegrating works of art can be shown..people want to go through them and look at the images..they want them to be seen, felt and ultimately shipped and then hung/framed without more damage incurring...you literally cannot have hundreds of people flipping through thousands of posters, opening and closing them, every week without them getting destroyed...if a poster is in flawless unrestored unbacked condition...it was hidden away and never used, admired or displayed as art...those posters make up the bare minimum of what is available and shown to collectors outside of an internet platform..."

makes sense to me
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on August 14, 2018, 09:53:05 PM
Nice thoughts on linenbacking---but I am sitting out today's auction as well. I have a half dozen or so linenbacked posters---and wish they weren't.
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Post by: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:22:44 PM
Quote from: Monster_A_GoGo on August 14, 2018, 09:53:05 PM
Nice thoughts on linenbacking---but I am sitting out today's auction as well. I have a half dozen or so linenbacked posters--and wish they weren't.

I totally support you all avoiding beautiful linen backed posters.  Yes, stay away so there are more for meeeeeeeeeee!!!  Okie
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Post by: crowzilla on August 14, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 09:49:15 PM
"Movie posters are the not the standard bearer of tastes in posters...they are a relatively new animal with an evolving presence in the poster world....and its far easier to find a nice folded movie poster post 1950 than it is to find a lesser Mucha or Cappiello that is in need of restoration and preservation...Just about everything in museums that is ever shown or displayed is backed...that is the standard..large format posters pre 1920 are remarkably hard to find in any condition...To display posters that are damaged and are increasingly volatile in a gallery setting is an evolution of preservation and display (they were not printed to be a collectors item and to be kept in perfect condition 70+ years later)  ..there is no way these disintegrating works of art can be shown..people want to go through them and look at the images..they want them to be seen, felt and ultimately shipped and then hung/framed without more damage incurring...you literally cannot have hundreds of people flipping through thousands of posters, opening and closing them, every week without them getting destroyed...if a poster is in flawless unrestored unbacked condition...it was hidden away and never used, admired or displayed as art...those posters make up the bare minimum of what is available and shown to collectors outside of an internet platform..."

Yep - that statement to me just confirms how special, rare, and precious early unrestored posters truly are, and that perhaps they should be valued at an even higher multiple than their backed counterparts.
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Post by: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 14, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Yep - that statement to me just confirms how special, rare, and precious early unrestored posters truly are, and that perhaps they should be valued at an even higher multiple than their backed counterparts.

Yes, don't spend money now.  Rather, save and save for those very old unrestored posters.  I'll quietly clean up those sad lovely linen backed orphans.  Okie
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Post by: erik1925 on August 14, 2018, 10:33:36 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 14, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Yep - that statement to me just confirms how special, rare, and precious early unrestored posters truly are, and that perhaps they should be valued at an even higher multiple than their backed counterparts.

Well said, Sean. Makes total sense to me, too.  cheers
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 09:49:15 PM
everything is reversible btw....

I hear this from linenbackers all the time and all it does is make me shake my head

once linenbacked, it is in no comparable way, reversible. Sure you can remove a poster from it's backing, but it does not revert to it's pre-backed condition, even posters that were mint before they were backed. If a poster is removed from it's backing, it is solely for the purpose of re-backing a poster that has degraded since it was originally backed (because *newsflash* eventually, all backed posters need to be redone). But it will never be what it was and therefore, saying it is reversible is false

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Post by: erik1925 on August 14, 2018, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
I hear this from linenbackers all the time and all it does is make me shake my head

once linenbacked, it is in no comparable way, reversible. Sure you can remove a poster from it's backing, but it does not revert to it's pre-backed condition, even posters that were mint before they were backed. If a poster is removed from it's backing, it is solely for the purpose of re-backing a poster that has degraded since it was originally backed (because *newsflash* eventually, all backed posters need to be redone). But it will never be what it was and therefore, saying it is reversible is false

It's amazing how many people think that "reversible" and using reversible materials, means that if those materials used to back, and retouch/restore a poster are all stripped away, that the poster handed back to the owner will be the same condition poster as what was handed over to be backed originally.
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Post by: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 14, 2018, 10:33:36 PM
Well said, Sean. Makes total sense to me, too.  cheers

I love you guys for being purists, and I can respect that. I'm shaking my head "yes" with you--Jeff, Sean, Monster, and T-- supporting your conviction all the way, while handing my money over to get that incredible linen backed baby!  Okie
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Post by: erik1925 on August 14, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
I love you guys for being purists, and I can respect that. I'm shaking my head "yes" with you--Jeff, Sean, Monster, and T-- supporting your conviction all the way, while handing my money over to get that incredible linen backed baby!  Okie

Has nothing (for me) about being a purist. Ive always been of the thought that backing should be done to (any) kind of poster, when that poster is in danger of falling apart because the paper has become brittle, fragile, dried out, damaged from acids etc. For conservation and preservation purposes and not because a perfectly good condition poster has fold lines, for example.

Again, thats just my POV and always has been. ;)
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Post by: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 14, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
Has nothing (for me) about being a purist. Ive always been of the thought that backing should be done to (any) kind of poster, when that poster is in danger of falling apart because the paper has become brittle, fragile, dried out, damaged from acids etc. For conservation and preservation purposes and not because a perfectly good condition poster has fold lines, for example.

Again, thats just my POV and always has been. ;)

I agree, Jeff!  I'm just so happy you took up the mantle!  Okie
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 10:53:37 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
I hear this from linenbackers all the time and all it does is make me shake my head

once linenbacked, it is in no comparable way, reversible. Sure you can remove a poster from it's backing, but it does not revert to it's pre-backed condition, even posters that were mint before they were backed. If a poster is removed from it's backing, it is solely for the purpose of re-backing a poster that has degraded since it was originally backed (because *newsflash* eventually, all backed posters need to be redone). But it will never be what it was and therefore, saying it is reversible is false

Excellent point!

While I agree with most of this....I will say the process of restoration in general is not reversible in a technical sense...if a poster has been cleaned, sutured, re-sized, fold lines relaxed and washed to neutralize the chemical acidity of the inks...its unalterably changed...you can't really recreate those age identifiers....so in essence as soon as you attempt anything but the most minor restoration then you are altering the poster irreversibly....??

(I for one do not own a single backed poster...I sold my last linen backed one in 2015 and I only buy unbacked small format posters now like lobby cards, window cards, half sheets and inserts...)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 14, 2018, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 10:53:37 PM
Excellent point!

While I agree with most of this....I will say the process of restoration in general is not reversible in a technical sense...if a poster has been cleaned, sutured, re-sized, fold lines relaxed and washed to neutralize the chemical acidity of the inks...its unalterably changed...you can't really recreate those age identifiers....so in essence as soon as you attempt anything but the most minor restoration then you are altering the poster irreversibly....??

(I for one do not own a single backed poster...I sold my last linen backed one in 2015 and I only buy unbacked small format posters now like lobby cards, window cards, half sheets and inserts...)

correct!

also, your friend that says all museums linenback posters for display.. not so, except for oversized material or damaged goods that need to be made displayable. Posters that will fit in a frame just fine with museum directors of intelligence, do not change the structure of items unless it's needed, and they don't spend money on stuff in their collections - unless someone else pays for it.

if you give your collection to an institution, they catalogue it, box it up & put it in storage. The only time it is taken down is when someone sees something on the inventory they want for display or more likely - research - and then it is boxed back up & put away again.
Unless you actually give them 5 million $ to store, conserve, and display your collection in the wing built with the trust from your 5 million.
o/w... they are the worst places for your collection to go, sadly.

so they don't spend money on linenbacking, unless YOU paid for it.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Yes that is a sad truth...

To clarify ... his comment was more specific and pertaining to poster exhibitions...im sure its in regard to large format posters...

“Just about everything in museums that is ever shown or displayed is backed”
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 12:37:59 AM
Moving on....

How about those fantastic lobby cards in Part 3 of Emovieposter’s auction!!


http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/14.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/tag/xtype%253Alobby%2520card/14.html)

Part 2 was kind of slow in last minute bidding wars...should be interesting to watch on Thursday since there are so many rare pieces in that group!!

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Post by: eatbrie on August 15, 2018, 12:39:51 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
I love you guys for being purists, and I can respect that. I'm shaking my head "yes" with you--Jeff, Sean, Monster, and T-- supporting your conviction all the way, while handing my money over to get that incredible linen backed baby!  Okie

So what did you buy that was so amazingly great in its linenbacked version.  I'd love to hear some titles.  What did you buy from Bruce's last auction?  It sounded like you were going to buy a lot.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:14:39 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on August 14, 2018, 10:29:46 PM
Yes, don't spend money now.  Rather, save and save for those very old unrestored posters.  I'll quietly clean up those sad lovely linen backed orphans.  Okie

you are taking my statement out of context.
I didn't say anything about you shouldn't buy or own backed posters, just that we should have an even greater appreciation for those precious few gems that still exist unbacked (like say a 1932 Mummy 3-sheet).
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Post by: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 14, 2018, 09:49:15 PM
...Just about everything in museums that is ever shown or displayed is backed...that is the standard..

One other mention about this museum part - most everything that is backed by a museum is paperbacked.
And in paperbacking it usually involves lightweight rice paper, not much else restoration-wise, which makes it much easier to remove from the backing if necessary.

It was dealers that started the drive for linenbacking most items as it makes for inventory that is easier to for them to take to shows, display, and ship. So when dealers talk about museums backing their posters also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison.
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Post by: marklawd on August 15, 2018, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
One other mention about this museum part - most everything that is backed by a museum is paperbacked.
And in paperbacking it usually involves lightweight rice paper, not much else restoration-wise, which makes it much easier to remove from the backing if necessary.

It was dealers that started the drive for linenbacking most items as it makes for inventory that is easier to for them to take to shows, display, and ship. So when dealers talk about museums backing their posters also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison.

Exactly. No reputable museum would linenback as that process is not archival.

Mark
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Post by: erik1925 on August 15, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
One other mention about this museum part - most everything that is backed by a museum is paperbacked.
And in paperbacking it usually involves lightweight rice paper, not much else restoration-wise, which makes it much easier to remove from the backing if necessary.

It was dealers that started the drive for linenbacking most items as it makes for inventory that is easier to for them to take to shows, display, and ship. So when dealers talk about museums backing their posters also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison.

In addition, border tears, cross fold tears, skinned areas etc are often mended from the back with a long fibered, Japanese tissue and wheat starch paste. This is a great clip from the Smithsonian that shows the repair process. This seems the way to go to me. Doing less = more.

https://www.youtube.com/v/O0cokmKzwtk
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: marklawd on August 15, 2018, 11:57:52 AM
Exactly. No reputable museum would linenback as that process is not archival.

Mark

At no point did my friend say that museums linenbacked posters...I'm not sure why that narrative took over....Many Museums, galleries, exhibitions all display large format linenbacked posters....that was the comment and point...it was all aimed at display and presentation....I've personally seen a majority of pieces linenbacked on display in galleries and exhibits...and my friend was talking about primo European posters in European exhibits...not Movie posters....
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 15, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
In addition, border tears, cross fold tears, skinned areas etc are often mended from the back with a long fibered, Japanese tissue and wheat starch paste. This is a great clip from the Smithsonian that shows the repair process. This seems the way to go to me. Doing less = more.

https://www.youtube.com/v/O0cokmKzwtk

All broadsides and window card sized posters are paperbacked...I've had plenty of them restored ...and other than a few random auctions...I've never seen them linenbacked
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Post by: erik1925 on August 15, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
Correct. Many broadsides, and typically, most LC, WC and even many inserts are paper backed, rather than mounting to linen (unless one sends something to Posterfix, that is  :P ).

The point of this clip was not paper backing but to show that institutions like the Smithsonian repair small tears, rips or skinning of a paper's surface with Japanese mending tissue rather than just slapping it to a piece of linen (or paper backing), if it's not needed or warranted.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 04:48:43 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:28:46 AM
One other mention about this museum part - most everything that is backed by a museum is paperbacked.
And in paperbacking it usually involves lightweight rice paper, not much else restoration-wise, which makes it much easier to remove from the backing if necessary.

It was dealers that started the drive for linenbacking most items as it makes for inventory that is easier to for them to take to shows, display, and ship. So when dealers talk about museums backing their posters also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison.

While I mostly agree with this...I will add that actually linenbacking started in the 1600's on large format antique maps and by the late 1700's many print sellers would use linen on large format copper plate engravings...copper was extremely expensive and large wall charts would use separate plates for each section...they would then be joined on linen with maybe a quarter inch between segments and then folded so the fold lines were just creased linen between segments of the engravings....the official terminology being   DISSECTED AND LAID ONTO LINEN
 in some cases....Parisian print makers have been linen backing paper for a very long time..we have merely been copying them....hell Jean Fabien Gautier d'Agoty even printed in color in 1756...to put into perspective how ahead of the curve they have been...so if anything dealers linenbacking movie posters stems from their observation of the European print market...Even Toulouse lautrec posters were linenbacked very early on

I have personally handled a bunch of copperplate engraved maps from the mid to late 1700's including an entire set of 1797 Vancouver Charts that I just had removed from the old linen and joined together using Green Dragon Bindery as my restorer and put on paper joined together....they said they do this all the time...these maps would be expertly sliced along the fold lines and then placed on the linen

Here is a map that I discovered in the archive I work in and arranged the sale of.....it is a little later...from 1843

https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/54123/nouvelle-carte-de-lamerique-meridionale-et-des-iles-qui-en-brue-picquet (https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/54123/nouvelle-carte-de-lamerique-meridionale-et-des-iles-qui-en-brue-picquet)

While I personally collect only unrestored unbacked small format posters...I can understand why there is a long history of linenbacking large format prints
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Post by: Starling on August 15, 2018, 10:55:48 PM
I always enjoy your posts, Tait. Very informative!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2018, 11:00:03 PM
Quote from: marklawd on August 15, 2018, 11:57:52 AM
Exactly. No reputable museum would linenback as that process is not archival.

Mark

exactly Mark.
Linen backing degrades and the glues degrade

Quote from: erik1925 on August 15, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
In addition, border tears, cross fold tears, skinned areas etc are often mended from the back with a long fibered, Japanese tissue and wheat starch paste.

MENDED being the operative word. In museumworld, there is no 'restoration'. they don't 'replace' anything and the last thing they would do to any item is add paint or anything else to a surface. This is why the Declaration of Independence on display at the National Archives looks the way that it does.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 11:13:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2018, 11:00:03 PM
exactly Mark.
Linen backing degrades and the glues degrade

MENDED being the operative word. In museumworld, there is no 'restoration'. they don't 'replace' anything and the last thing they would do to any item is add paint or anything else to a surface. This is why the Declaration of Independence on display at the National Archives looks the way that it does.

Actually many museums restore painted works that were donated or purchased...The Louvre is well known for restoration...some good ....some botched...and the de Young museum keeps a restorer on hand to correct paintings...in fact paintings are cleaned and restored for public exhibition and have been since before WWII...you can find heeps of videos online about "conserving" paintings which sometimes includes light over-paint in small areas...many many unique works have been refreshed with paint...but don't take my word for it...see for yourself...it wouldnt surpise me if a decent amount of renaissance era paintings have had some kind of work on them at some point

I don't know if this is true for paper restoration in the united states...but it seems to me that if they are willing to accept restoration for multi-million dollar paintings then at the very least they must consider restoring fine art posters at some point...
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Post by: okiehawker on August 15, 2018, 11:43:49 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 15, 2018, 09:14:39 AM
you are taking my statement out of context.
I didn't say anything about you shouldn't buy or own backed posters, just that we should have an even greater appreciation for those precious few gems that still exist unbacked (like say a 1932 Mummy 3-sheet).

Just joking around with you guys, Crowzilla!  For older, rare posters, I've never minded highly skilled linen backing and restoration, and I do often hope other collectors don't bid on them because they don't like linen backing. I have both linen backed, and posters in their original state.  Either way doesn't really make a difference to me on the older posters. 

Okie
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2018, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 15, 2018, 11:13:57 PM
Actually many museums restore painted works that were donated or purchased...The Louvre is well known for restoration...some good ....some botched...and the de Young museum keeps a restorer on hand to correct paintings...in fact paintings are cleaned and restored for public exhibition and have been since before WWII...you can find heeps of videos online about "conserving" paintings which sometimes includes light over-paint in small areas...many many unique works have been refreshed with paint...but don't take my word for it...see for yourself...it wouldnt surpise me if a decent amount of renaissance era paintings have had some kind of work on them at some point

I don't know if this is true for paper restoration in the united states...but it seems to me that if they are willing to accept restoration for multi-million dollar paintings then at the very least they must consider restoring fine art posters at some point...

restoring paintings has absolutely nothing to do with posters
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Post by: okiehawker on August 16, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on August 15, 2018, 12:39:51 AM
So what did you buy that was so amazingly great in its linenbacked version.  I'd love to hear some titles.  What did you buy from Bruce's last auction?  It sounded like you were going to buy a lot.

T

Hi T,  I actually have a mixture of original state and linen backed posters.  Here are a couple of examples: The Bride of Frankenstein poster from Argentina from 1935 I have is linen backed while the 1929 Mysterious Dr. Fu Manchu one sheet I have is in its original state.  Both posters are framed and up on display.  Either raw or linen backed on older posters really doesn't matter to me much.  It's all about loving the image to me (also helps if my wife enjoys the poster as well).  I collected a lot of pen and ink, black and white original comic art and vintage illustrations previously (still have a few).  However, the beautiful color poster art and paintings are more exciting to my family and helps them to enjoy my hobby more as well.  I like it when other collectors avoid beautiful, stone litho linen backed posters!   You know, in Bruce's auction some of the pretty Western posters on linen I thought about, and I thought about bidding on the Invisible Man 3 sheet on linen that was in the best condition I can remember.  However there are some gems on the last two sessions that I'm holding out for right now.   Anyway, all the thumbs-down discussion on linen backing made me want to joke around a bit.  Okie
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Post by: okiehawker on August 16, 2018, 12:18:02 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on August 15, 2018, 11:56:34 PM
restoring paintings has absolutely nothing to do with posters

Hi Richie,  I think it is the comfort level of collectors with restoration in a particular collecting field as well. I think about comic collectors having an aversion to restoration often times.  I like that poster collecting is more accepting of restoration in many cases where it makes sense.  I understand personal taste plays into all this as well. Cleaning and sealing paintings is well accepted as normal maintenance for preservation etc.  It's interesting in other collecting fields that even cleaning can be looked down upon let alone restoration and stabilizing with backing. 

Okie
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 16, 2018, 01:06:38 AM
I just checked a wide variety of websites of paper conservationists/restoration services online
They all say they have done work for galleries, museums, collectors etc.

They offer variations of retouch, reconstruction - filling, mounting, cleaning and treatment of oversized work

Here is an interesting one
http://oliverbrothersonline.com/our-work/recent-clients/ (http://oliverbrothersonline.com/our-work/recent-clients/)

They work for a lot of institutions according to their list...with a focus on paper
And that typed letter on the page is telling...

My gut feeling is Museums do a lot more restoration outsourced than we think...and who knows what that restoration is

since museums are operated and run with varying degrees of professional oversight...depending on the restorationists they use ...i would stay away from absolutes when it comes to their restoration practices...restoration is constantly evolving after all

Can we safely say we don't really know for sure how much paper is restored by museums in their collections and what the extent of restoration really is??
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 16, 2018, 02:05:06 AM
I also want to relate an experience that highlights the murky levels of
self-governance and lack of oversight that frame our topic of discussion

A few years ago i had some very expensive window cards restored, backed and filled in along the bottom and right borders/image area....they did an amzing job...expensive but really high end...two of these were very expensive pieces...The Duck Soup card alone sells $4,000+...

When i inspected them closely i found the dates in the printer info were 1 year off...also the red line was not added on the Tarzan and his mate WC...which is how the full bleed version is...when i contacted them it was a self protective issue they rectified by PURPOSEFULLY restoring them with knowingly alfered variations so the pieces could NOT be sold accidentally or purposefully as perfect condition...because of the PIH Dracula debacle, the fallout from that and considering they were so masterfully restored..that being said

In retrospect it was cavalier to restore the window cards without communicating with me this less than trivial detail...its a unilateral decision they made...and as a top restorer who has self proclaimed  worked for museums , with a fleet of young art students working with them...that is another reason to be skeptical of the quality/amount/extent/exactness of restoration done for other institutions...maybe institutions get more careful work done...maybe not...considering collectors are discerning to say the least...perhaps there is far less close inspection of restored pieces that Museums outsource than we think..
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Post by: eatbrie on August 16, 2018, 02:26:00 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on August 16, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
Hi T,  I actually have a mixture of original state and linen backed posters.  Here are a couple of examples: The Bride of Frankenstein poster from Argentina from 1935 I have is linen backed while the 1929 Mysterious Dr. Fu Manchu one sheet I have is in its original state.  Both posters are framed and up on display.  Either raw or linen backed on older posters really doesn't matter to me much.  It's all about loving the image to me (also helps if my wife enjoys the poster as well).  I collected a lot of pen and ink, black and white original comic art and vintage illustrations previously (still have a few).  However, the beautiful color poster art and paintings are more exciting to my family and helps them to enjoy my hobby more as well.  I like it when other collectors avoid beautiful, stone litho linen backed posters!   You know, in Bruce's auction some of the pretty Western posters on linen I thought about, and I thought about bidding on the Invisible Man 3 sheet on linen that was in the best condition I can remember.  However there are some gems on the last two sessions that I'm holding out for right now.   Anyway, all the thumbs-down discussion on linen backing made me want to joke around a bit.  Okie

I don't know anything about the two posters you mentioned, but based on title and age, I'm assuming they are extremely rare and worth many multiple thousands of dollars, right?  In this case, I would accept linenbacking.  I was mostly referring to what Bruce was selling, where I didn't see anything that couldn't be obtained folded, and saw a lot that didn't deserve to be linenbacked.  This is what I meant by my original comment of why are these posters linenbacked in the first place.

T
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Post by: erik1925 on August 16, 2018, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 16, 2018, 02:05:06 AM
I also want to relate an experience that highlights the murky levels of
self-governance and lack of oversight that frame our topic of discussion

A few years ago i had some very expensive window cards restored, backed and filled in along the bottom and right borders/image area....they did an amzing job...expensive but really high end...two of these were very expensive pieces...The Duck Soup card alone sells $4,000+...

When i inspected them closely i found the dates in the printer info were 1 year off...also the red line was not added on the Tarzan and his mate WC...which is how the full bleed version is...when i contacted them it was a self protective issue they rectified by PURPOSEFULLY restoring them with knowingly alfered variations so the pieces could NOT be sold accidentally or purposefully as perfect condition...because of the PIH Dracula debacle, the fallout from that and considering they were so masterfully restored..that being said

In retrospect it was cavalier to restore the window cards without communicating with me this less than trivial detail...its a unilateral decision they made...and as a top restorer who has self proclaimed  worked for museums , with a fleet of young art students working with them...that is another reason to be skeptical of the quality/amount/extent/exactness of restoration done for other institutions...maybe institutions get more careful work done...maybe not...considering collectors are discerning to say the least...perhaps there is far less close inspection of restored pieces that Museums outsource than we think..

Any restorer taking it upon themselves to perform this kind of "vandalism" on a piece brought to them to work on and restore, is someone I would never use again. As well, I would demand that the work be rectified and/or ask for a refund.

More importantly, who is this restorer? Someone like this should be identified, so that other's can avoid this person and their self appointed, "loftt" position they have with themselves and this kind of work that they perform.

At the end of the day, you paid for services that this restorer did NOT provide you.

Not to mention the fact that with both these cards, each having been restored with wrong and missing info/detailing, that said restorer has also devalued them both, as well.


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Post by: Filmlobbycards on August 16, 2018, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on August 16, 2018, 12:33:08 PM
Any restorer taking it upon themselves to perform this kind of "vandalism" on a piece brought to them to work on and restore, is someone I would never use again. As well, I would demand that the work be rectified and/or ask for a refund.

More importantly, who is this restorer? Someone like this should be identified, so that other's can avoid this person and their self appointed, "loftt" position they have with themselves and this kind of work that they perform.

At the end of the day, you paid for services that this restorer did NOT provide you.

Not to mention the fact that with both these cards, each having been restored with wrong and missing info/detailing, that said restorer has also devalued them both, as well.

I'm not going to out the restorer on the forum...you have to remember they did an AMAZING job on the pieces...those actions were taken from self preservation mode during a turbulent time..they were clearly changing their practices..you also have to remember that the PIH Dracula one sheet scare and the lawsuit after affected multiple restoration services...not long after the Haggard fraud...the pieces were auctioned off years ago and were correctly described btw....I kept the Duck Soup...

I was using this as an example of why its not outlandish to think that outsourced restoration work from institutions and museums could take many shapes with significantly more work being done than just light conservation...I'm not even sure if your average smaller museum would have any paper expert available to consult them on the process and extent...especially since restorers adapt new practices and have deft artistic skill...

I'm skeptical of a single standard practice being implemented when it comes to paper restoration with so many institutions, museums and restorers operating so cavalierly.....just think....Posterfix claims to have worked with museums on their patron page... including The Smithsonian!!!!!
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Post by: erik1925 on August 17, 2018, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on August 16, 2018, 06:30:32 PM
I'm not going to out the restorer on the forum...you have to remember they did an AMAZING job on the pieces...those actions were taken from self preservation mode during a turbulent time..they were clearly changing their practices..you also have to remember that the PIH Dracula one sheet scare and the lawsuit after affected multiple restoration services...not long after the Haggard fraud...the pieces were auctioned off years ago and were correctly described btw....I kept the Duck Soup...

I was using this as an example of why its not outlandish to think that outsourced restoration work from institutions and museums could take many shapes with significantly more work being done than just light conservation...I'm not even sure if your average smaller museum would have any paper expert available to consult them on the process and extent...especially since restorers adapt new practices and have deft artistic skill...

I'm skeptical of a single standard practice being implemented when it comes to paper restoration with so many institutions, museums and restorers operating so cavalierly.....just think....Posterfix claims to have worked with museums on their patron page... including The Smithsonian!!!!!

As long as you think they did an amazing job, is all that matters (even with the self-decided changes they chose to do to your property without either your permission or alerting you, until you happened to discover them, after the fact).   ;)

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Post by: pratschm on August 30, 2018, 07:27:53 PM
We need another recession. Prices have gone insane. Just my humble opinion.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 30, 2018, 07:51:24 PM
It's just a few people with more money than brains...  Just my opinion.

T
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Post by: riley540 on August 31, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 16, 2018, 02:34:16 PM
The same seller is offering this, too...

For a cool $16,595.00 (BIN) (frame NOT included).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-Style-C-One-Sheet-Movie-Poster-ROLLED-Very-Rare/222762945569?hash=item33ddb4cc21:g:-IQAAOSwzlZaOhwR

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8128;image)



And this, for $5295.00 (BIN)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-CLOCKWORK-ORANGE-Original-Vintage-ROLLED-27x41-one-Sheet-Movie-Poster-Kubri/222788275407?hash=item33df374ccf:g:XfQAAOSwogpaU9MQ

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=833.0;attach=8130;image)

I was in between jobs in a financial bind so I threw these up to see what would happen. Thankfully I didn’t sell them and I found good work soon after. I have a huge passion for cinema and love collecting old art work. I love my 2001 poster and my clockwork poster. I got the clockwork poster from Cinemasterpieces a few years back and made a private deal with Catherine Mcall for the 2001 poster. It was an emotional and desperate time when I was trying to sell them.

Same goes for my bulk collection. I am going to go back to individual listings on eBay. I usually start them around $1.00 and have some decent stuff sometimes!
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Post by: erik1925 on August 31, 2018, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: riley540 on August 31, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
I was in between jobs in a financial bind so I threw these up to see what would happen. Thankfully I didn’t sell them and I found good work soon after. I have a huge passion for cinema and love collecting old art work. I love my 2001 poster and my clockwork poster. I got the clockwork poster from Cinemasterpieces a few years back and made a private deal with Catherine Mcall for the 2001 poster. It was an emotional and desperate time when I was trying to sell them.

Same goes for my bulk collection. I am going to go back to individual listings on eBay. I usually start them around $1.00 and have some decent stuff sometimes!

Good to read that you were able to hold onto both of your posters, riley540. Sounds like both the movies and the posters mean a lot to you. So even better that they are still in yur hands and on yur wall.

And  welcome1 to the forum. Have fun and enjoy it.

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Post by: Crazy Vick on September 13, 2018, 08:53:03 PM
So i'm thinking Deep pockets (or no pockets) Noah27 may be from across the pond

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/records/80/tag/xtype%253Atravel%2520poster/tag/nation%253AU.K./14.html
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Post by: guest4955 on September 16, 2018, 10:06:27 PM
BAT 2P:

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41848472_2249207438696520_3342406823205404672_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=8d8a45bfa3a0ee4b96c391ec488ae3d6&oe=5C160137)

Next HA sig
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Post by: erik1925 on September 21, 2018, 09:48:32 PM
The opening bid is $12,750.00, it will be interesting to see where this FRANK TC ends up, in October.   bed1

https://www.txauction.com/lots/8049

(https://i.imgur.com/0uQEvqD.png)
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Post by: redman on September 24, 2018, 11:25:07 AM
bit of a joke description/grading from HA here (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/academy-award-winner/you-can-t-take-it-with-you-columbia-1938-title-lobby-card-11-x-14-academy-award-winners/a/161839-55279.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515)
btw what the hell is airbrushed back? i guess it means painted? jeezus.
i've always thought it a JOKE that HA doesn't show pics of the backs of lobbies and photos
(probably because i remember that i got a lobby from them which was covered in tape... >:( eyeroll)
anyway, back to You Can't Take It With You, i don't see any mention of fading in the description
hmmmm. looks super f-a-d-e-d to me. have a look at recent EMP pic for comparison

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2Lw5B.jpg)

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2Lw5C.jpg)
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Post by: jayn_j on September 24, 2018, 12:38:55 PM
Yeah, I saw that one.  It looks like fading is not part of their grading as this was listed as fine/very fine (C7.5).  I'd rate this no higher than C5 and more likely C4.

I received a card last year from Heritage that was significantly faded.  No note of faded condition in the description, and the image on the site was significantly color boosted.  At least it doesn't look like they tried to manipulate this image.

I has caused me to be more careful when examining HA material.
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Post by: redman on September 24, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 24, 2018, 12:38:55 PM
I received a card last year from Heritage that was significantly faded.  No note of faded condition in the description, and the image on the site was significantly color boosted.  At least it doesn't look like they tried to manipulate this image.

I has caused me to be more careful when examining HA material.

i understand that. if i'd recieved something really faded, wasn't described as such and, suprise suprise, the photos miraculously looked great, i'd probably send it back.
it's miss-selling really

personally, i don't buy from HA nowadays - it's a combination of their not great descriptions and p&p costs being extortionate (for overseas). also, the chance of a bargain is superslim ;D i probably will in the future (they get consigned great stuff) but i'm happy with EMP amongst others at this point in time
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Post by: jayn_j on September 25, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: redman on September 24, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
i understand that. if i'd recieved something really faded, wasn't described as such and, suprise suprise, the photos miraculously looked great, i'd probably send it back.
it's miss-selling really

personally, i don't buy from HA nowadays - it's a combination of their not great descriptions and p&p costs being extortionate (for overseas). also, the chance of a bargain is superslim ;D i probably will in the future (they get consigned great stuff) but i'm happy with EMP amongst others at this point in time

Yeah, understand.  The card sold for well under value, so I decided to keep it.

I didn't buy from HA for years as I had the same feelings about costs.  However, they sometimes have material that doesn't come up anywhere else.  Over time, my tastes have become more specific and I am down to looking for just a few special items (anybody selling a Swing Time lobby??)

When I bid at HA, I keep a separate ledger for calculations, so I can factor in buyer's premium and shipping before making a bid.  95% of the time, it means I pass on stuff, especially for the weekly auctions.
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Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 25, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
When I bid at HA, I keep a separate ledger for calculations, so I can factor in buyer's premium and shipping before making a bid.  95% of the time, it means I pass on stuff, especially for the weekly auctions.

separate ledger?
because seeing the exact amount you are bidding on the bid screen is too difficult?
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Post by: redman on September 25, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
^ bit patronising?
if you are in europe and buy something as small as a lobby, HA will hit you with at least $80 postage (might be more now!)
as i've said, i'd rather give my money to EMP (it has great pay+hold service) than HA+Fedex
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Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 03:25:05 PM
Quote from: redman on September 25, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
^ bit patronising?

no, just an honest question.
No doubt, international shipping can be quite expensive, though we already know HA will also hold items for shipment, so that negates part of your rationale.
The original poster of course, isn't international and HA publishes a domestic shipping chart so that you know exactly what your charges will be anytime you care to look them up (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/contact-us.zx?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fmovieposters.ha.com%2Fc%2Fsitemap.zx%3Fic%3Dfooter-sitemap-060716&topicId=21)
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Post by: jayn_j on September 25, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 03:25:05 PM
no, just an honest question.
No doubt, international shipping can be quite expensive, though we already know HA will also hold items for shipment, so that negates part of your rationale.
The original poster of course, isn't international and HA publishes a domestic shipping chart so that you know exactly what your charges will be anytime you care to look them up (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/contact-us.zx?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fmovieposters.ha.com%2Fc%2Fsitemap.zx%3Fic%3Dfooter-sitemap-060716&topicId=21)

I was going to let it pass, but I read your previous response as a bit arrogant as well.

HA shipping tends to be double the cost of most other places.  I agree that the buyer premium is listed, but it becomes a factor after you initially set your bid.  Add to this the fact that in most places I tend to buy several items which generally can be combined in shipping.  At HA, it is either one item, or every weekly auction is so diverse that it is unlikely that items can be combined.  That means that even here in the US, the costs for shipping are real and much higher than say Emovieposter.

Not necessarily a killer, but as I stated before, it is a real expense and one where I need to be more careful to look at the real cost of purchasing.

You may not give a crap, and if so more power to you.  To me it makes a difference and influences what I choose to purchase, especially in HA's weekly auctions.
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Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on September 25, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
HA shipping tends to be double the cost of most other places.  I agree that the buyer premium is listed, but it becomes a factor after you initially set your bid.  Add to this the fact that in most places I tend to buy several items which generally can be combined in shipping.   At HA, it is either one item, or every weekly auction is so diverse that it is unlikely that items can be combined.  That means that even here in the US, the costs for shipping are real...

Not sure what "most other places" means, but when comparing auction houses to auction houses, HA is in the middle of the pack at worst - the frequent complaints of $200 shipping for a single poster and such from other places will attest to that.

As T frequently points out, HA will hold orders to help save on shipping. Yes, it's tough to combine a one-sheet with a lobby card, but that's the breaks some times.

Everyone has their own tolerance level for the value of getting an item to them safely, and I wouldn't presume to dictate yours to you.  thumbsup.gif

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Post by: redman on September 25, 2018, 05:27:24 PM
^ i like the way you say you don't understand "most other places" and then use the phrase yourself  Doh.gif

also i can't believe you are defending HA postage costs. do you work for them? ;D

Quote
the frequent complaints of $200 shipping for a single poster and such from other places will attest to that.
got a link?
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Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: redman on September 25, 2018, 05:27:24 PM
also i can't believe you are defending HA postage costs. do you work for them? ;D
got a link?

I would suggest starting in the thread titled "Questionable Shipping Quotes From Major Auction Houses", but it is so obvious that I am sure you already looked there...
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,12844.0.html
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Post by: redman on September 25, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
 eyeroll . not frequent complaints at all on that link
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Post by: crowzilla on September 25, 2018, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: redman on September 25, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
eyeroll . not frequent complaints at all on that link

It is of course a single thread in the whole "Packing and Shipping" section.
more telling is the $293 shipping quote the buyer mentions and that a similar package would be $50 from Profiles and $30 from Heritage.  Hardly seems like Heritage is the price leader in that scenario, but again different levels for different folks.

I offer a toast to you to settle, as I'm sure for everyone who complains about a higher price you can find someone who is less (which is what being in the middle means).
 cheers
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Post by: redman on September 25, 2018, 06:41:44 PM
 cheers
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Post by: redman on September 27, 2018, 01:36:32 PM
i can't see any bids at the auction for rare horror. is a flurry of late bidding expected and in the meantime collectors are just playing their cards close to their chest?
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Post by: redman on September 28, 2018, 06:55:53 AM
^ it ends in over 2 weeks, thats why  Doh.gif (i'm sure it said 4 days remaining when i checked yesterday though ???)
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Post by: erik1925 on September 29, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
Quote from: redman on September 28, 2018, 06:55:53 AM
^ it ends in over 2 weeks, thats why  Doh.gif (i'm sure it said 4 days remaining when i checked yesterday though ???)

I noticed that countdown clock in red, too... and it's WAY off (unless maybe it's the time left to submit online bids or something?) Dunno.
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Post by: crowzilla on September 29, 2018, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on September 29, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
I noticed that countdown clock in red, too... and it's WAY off (unless maybe it's the time left to submit online bids or something?) Dunno.

The countdown clock is until the auction goes live - which would also explain the lack of bidding.
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Post by: pratschm on November 06, 2018, 08:36:37 PM
I have to ask - have I become cheap or are some of these prices just simply insane???  ??? ??? ???
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Post by: JCM on November 06, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
4 thousand dollar rolled Jaws. Daaaaaaaamn. Props to whomever consigned that bitch.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 06, 2018, 08:49:23 PM
So ridiculous.  I paid $250 for mine 12 years ago and it is mint.

Some people either have too much money or no brains.  Maybe a little bit of both.

T
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Post by: Crazy Vick on November 06, 2018, 08:55:30 PM
It is bonkers especially since 2 others were auctioned this year for $2300 --- about half as much. 
Good for Bruce and co. though.   :)

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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on November 06, 2018, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: JCM on November 06, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
4 thousand dollar rolled Jaws. Daaaaaaaamn. Props to whomever consigned that bitch.

THANK YOU!

(I'm just kidding. I WISH it had been me...)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 06, 2018, 09:40:21 PM
Maybe Chop Top bit the mega bullet and went for it!   ;D piratemel
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Post by: crowzilla on November 07, 2018, 12:20:45 AM
Once you get past Jaws, are prices really insane or is it a few high prices, a few regular prices, and a few low prices?

A few years ago that A&C Meet Frank insert would have been the high price leader for the night, as it is it sold for the lowest price I've ever seen at auction.
Kong result seemed low, as you don't see Star Wars half and 1st print one-sheets for under a grand much anymore, but Dr No insert seemed ok as well as Halloween and some of the newer items.
Last few pages were all under $50 each so have to think there were a few bargains there
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Post by: Simes on November 07, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on November 06, 2018, 09:40:21 PM
Maybe Chop Top bit the mega bullet and went for it!   ;D piratemel

I went in this thread, looking for Jaws references, and a Chop comment thereafter.

Glad to see I was not disappointed.
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Post by: cabmangray on November 07, 2018, 07:20:23 PM
I just checked EMP's Tuesday auction results. The MONSTER OF PIEDRAS BLANCAS insert sold for almost double the MUMMY'S CURSE R-51 insert? Is the PIEDRAS BLANCAS insert that rare? I know it's the best poster for this title, but sheesh! ???
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Post by: eric160634 on November 07, 2018, 09:40:38 PM
I'm glad I found my Indian Jaws 3 sheet on eBay a few months ago. I paid less than 1/3 of what Bruce got for one on Sunday.
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 09, 2018, 06:41:40 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 07, 2018, 12:20:45 AM
Once you get past Jaws, are prices really insane or is it a few high prices, a few regular prices, and a few low prices?

A few years ago that A&C Meet Frank insert would have been the high price leader for the night, as it is it sold for the lowest price I've ever seen at auction.
Kong result seemed low, as you don't see Star Wars half and 1st print one-sheets for under a grand much anymore, but Dr No insert seemed ok as well as Halloween and some of the newer items.
Last few pages were all under $50 each so have to think there were a few bargains there

I think its reasonably safe to say that rarity really is a driving force for excellent results..Much has been said about the overall flood of posters being sold in these weekly auctions and the overexposure of certain titles ....there are highs and lows with these results...but for truly great results the posters need to be outliers with a mix of obscurity and desirability being the propulsive factors...the driving force is rarity....RARITY!!

I can give a few examples to my point:

The 1931 Maltese Falcon lobby cards Heritage sold....the title card sold for over $10,000 and best scene for about $9,000....very few lobby cards...even universal horror rarities, will ever reach those prices....and that movie is an absolute mediocre film...hardly anyone has ever seen it....we all love the Bogart & Huston 1941 Classic....its a weird film to try and collect on but material is rare and that is the real reason it can achieve those prices...

These 4 results from lobby cards that I personally owned and consigned raise different points in terms of emovieposter getting great results for rare paper:
(I absolutely had no idea these results would happen..they aren't marquee pieces..I figured they were all $200 cards at best)

1. Grandma's Boy 1922 LC (I purchased it from ebay for $25: sold on EMP for $999
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5997853.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5997853.html)

2. Revolt of the Zombies  1936 LC (purchased from ebay $56 : sold on EMP $780
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1288244.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1288244.html)

3. Charlie Chan in Paris 1935 LC (purchased from POHMOA for $110: sold on EMP for $654

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1468600.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/1468600.html)

4. Time of their lives 1946 LC (purchased cinevent auction $50: sold on EMP for $546)

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/16648483.html (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/16648483.html)
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Post by: Simes on November 09, 2018, 07:26:22 PM
Emperor's new clothes, or the Power of Bruce?
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 09, 2018, 08:05:17 PM
I understand the semantics but where and when you sell is a big factor as well....rare material deserves to be sold with care and consideration....
The recent Gaston and Sheehan auction was unimpressive to say the least...it was all UNI horror with very few lots competing...I talked to the G&H lady on the phone...she didnt really know how to handle questions on shipping posters and condition grades...obviously the wrong venue when it comes to advertising as well!!!...Heritage would have done much better!!

POH sold Morrie Everett's collection in really fucked up lots with terrible condition listing's..He wasn't happy at all...I talked to him about it..Bruce would have done the material a real service and it would have sold over a long period of time and the results would have been much better..the smart people (I will raise my hand) have made a lot of money breaking up cards and selling what we didnt want to keep through EMP) and there are record results from these sales ...

side note...Everyone who is keeping an eye on Charlie Chan Oland material knows this in spades

Julians did a very poor job selling the Schrader collection....poorest job I have ever seen for material of that magnitude...the saving grace was Heritage aggressively bought some of the material and sold it in separate lots and they had some really great results in areas...they didnt sell it correctly either....but that is the game

The Ira Resnick Starstruck Auction did really well in a few areas and terrible in others...once again the advertising was awful....I signed up and tried to bid live and their customer service failed me in every way...what a bunch of corporate idiots...I'm still pissed about it  devil 2..regardless...the slate of other great auctions PREVIOUSLY castrated some of that material...it was really amazing paper btw and deserved to be sold in a different way and a different time....it really matters WHERE, WHEN and HOW you sell your collection!

It's not always about rarity....timing and venue really matter as well....but once again...as Graham Arader pushes endlessly: Rarity, Condition, Historical Importance and Aesthetic appeal..that's a fucking winner!

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Post by: redman on November 10, 2018, 03:12:20 PM
the auction i look forward to most is EMPs non-USA rolled every month/bi-month
got a bit excited to see one of favourite animators their with a fecking-country-of-origin

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2N1Ao.jpg)

but i just noticed that it is now at $350 so i guess i'll save my pennies for major auction time  :-\
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Post by: redman on November 14, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
^ sold for $952  faint2.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 14, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on November 09, 2018, 08:05:17 PM
I understand the semantics but where and when you sell is a big factor as well....rare material deserves to be sold with care and consideration....
The recent Gaston and Sheehan auction was unimpressive to say the least...it was all UNI horror with very few lots competing...I talked to the G&H lady on the phone...she didnt really know how to handle questions on shipping posters and condition grades...obviously the wrong venue when it comes to advertising as well!!!...Heritage would have done much better!!

POH sold Morrie Everett's collection in really fucked up lots with terrible condition listing's..He wasn't happy at all...I talked to him about it..Bruce would have done the material a real service and it would have sold over a long period of time and the results would have been much better..the smart people (I will raise my hand) have made a lot of money breaking up cards and selling what we didnt want to keep through EMP) and there are record results from these sales ...

side note...Everyone who is keeping an eye on Charlie Chan Oland material knows this in spades

Julians did a very poor job selling the Schrader collection....poorest job I have ever seen for material of that magnitude...the saving grace was Heritage aggressively bought some of the material and sold it in separate lots and they had some really great results in areas...they didnt sell it correctly either....but that is the game

The Ira Resnick Starstruck Auction did really well in a few areas and terrible in others...once again the advertising was awful....I signed up and tried to bid live and their customer service failed me in every way...what a bunch of corporate idiots...I'm still pissed about it  devil 2..regardless...the slate of other great auctions PREVIOUSLY castrated some of that material...it was really amazing paper btw and deserved to be sold in a different way and a different time....it really matters WHERE, WHEN and HOW you sell your collection!

It's not always about rarity....timing and venue really matter as well....but once again...as Graham Arader pushes endlessly: Rarity, Condition, Historical Importance and Aesthetic appeal..that's a fucking winner!

Tait, the likelihood that anyone would have done $5million in sales from Morrie's collection in less than a year in any fashion other than how Profiles handled it is zero. Missouri would be auctioning the stuff for 50 years, with tons of it for less than $5 per card and HA would have sold it better, but Morrie still would not have gotten $4m+ by today

factually, selling 200,000 lobby cards is impossible without selling it as lot groups and I have no expectation that my own stock of almost 200,000 posters etc will be sold the same way
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Post by: Filmlobbycards on November 14, 2018, 08:16:21 PM
Perhaps but we will never know....you have to remember that one buyer alone didnt pay for over $120,000 in material (there were also others)and Morrie ended up getting the cards back and Heritage bought a ton of lots and resold them in a trickled out fashion over the next few years as well..that really skews the numbers in a way where a major auction house was purchasing material for resale (we have already seen how that alters an auction with the Julien's Schrader/Osian's material: those $25,000 Keaton lots were Heritage and an unnamed archive in a bid war that drove those results)...not for pure individualistic collecting purposes either way...I don't know if Heritage buys from Bruce...but taking Heritage's bidding firepower out of the picture changes any result Bruce would have..I would be interested to know what Morrie actually made at the end ...certainly nowhere close to 4 million..I think Bruce could have sold the best material over a year broken up and done very well...It would hypothetically be a combo of bulk lots and broken up individual lobby card sets at Bruce's in a similar model as PIH...I would venture to guess that 75% of the lobby card volume sold in the 2 PIH auctions were bulk lots anyway....I think other auction houses could have handled that....a lot of really high end material was sold in 4-10 card lots that would have done much better in Heritage and Emovieposter auctions...that was my point
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 15, 2018, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: Filmlobbycards on November 14, 2018, 08:16:21 PM
Perhaps but we will never know....you have to remember that one buyer alone didnt pay for over $120,000 in material (there were also others)and Morrie ended up getting the cards back and Heritage bought a ton of lots and resold them in a trickled out fashion over the next few years as well..that really skews the numbers in a way where a major auction house was purchasing material for resale (we have already seen how that alters an auction with the Julien's Schrader/Osian's material: those $25,000 Keaton lots were Heritage and an unnamed archive in a bid war that drove those results)...not for pure individualistic collecting purposes either way...I don't know if Heritage buys from Bruce...but taking Heritage's bidding firepower out of the picture changes any result Bruce would have..I would be interested to know what Morrie actually made at the end ...certainly nowhere close to 4 million..I think Bruce could have sold the best material over a year broken up and done very well...It would hypothetically be a combo of bulk lots and broken up individual lobby card sets at Bruce's in a similar model as PIH...I would venture to guess that 75% of the lobby card volume sold in the 2 PIH auctions were bulk lots anyway....I think other auction houses could have handled that....a lot of really high end material was sold in 4-10 card lots that would have done much better in Heritage and Emovieposter auctions...that was my point

I really don't understand what your point is here.
One one hand you are saying that Bruce is doing better than Profiles, but on the other hand, you're saying that Heritage allegedly buying stuff affects the prices improperly, which would mean (if true) HA's absence would only make the resultant prices at Profiles lower, which would widen the gap.

I can say that I doubt Heritage buys as much as you might think they buy, and quite a lot of material is consigned to them by people who buy material expecting to sell a certain amount & consign it to them. As a matter of fact, HA sold 2 items for me just today in the comics auction that I had no intention of doing anything other than send them to HA when they came in. Oh by the way, the sold them today for double and triple their previous results on these items, both very expensive items. Even before I bought them, my intention was to send them to HA

regardless. I think that it doesn't matter who is the buyer of the material in auction, dealer or collector. The hammer price is the hammer price.
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Post by: Simes on December 29, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/mystery/the-saint-in-new-york-rko-1938-folded-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-mystery/a/161852-55332.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Oh dear.

This poster had some (sort of) love, but entirely on the cheap.

Bottom right.
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Post by: 50s on December 29, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
Yea, how is that Fine-  ? I think that would be Poor in EMP standards
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Post by: Crazy Vick on December 30, 2018, 12:08:36 AM
That is weak.

Sure hope the description gets updated soon. :-\
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Post by: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 07:08:56 AM
Quote from: 50s on December 29, 2018, 08:37:50 PM
Yea, how is that Fine-  ? I think that would be Poor in EMP standards

To add on to this, I have had posters I bought from HA that were rated fine and fine+!!, that I had send to Emp for consignments earlier this year, which can be seen on my consignment thread and you can also verify on HA. For example, you can verify this for yourselves through the auction results on Emp and Ha... look at my abbot and Costello meet Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde that I had bought from HA last year and later this year sent to Emp couple months ago.
 I had lost a significant amount of money from the posters I bought from HA and had to consign to Emp due to the condition of the posters rating from HA....

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Post by: Crazy Vick on December 30, 2018, 08:31:34 AM
Me: "hey honey do you mind if I go out tonight and leave you with the kids"
Wife: "Fine."

 = RED FLAG
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Post by: Simes on December 30, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
In the history of HA poster sales, has there Ever been anything Other than a Fine something rating?

I'll go first.  No.
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Post by: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
Quote from: Simes on December 30, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
In the history of HA poster sales, has there Ever been anything Other than a Fine something rating?

I'll go first.  No.

Exact same poster.. went from HA to EMP
$770 big loss for $277

HA’s description
 “An unrestored poster with good color and an overall very presentable appearance. It may have tears, slight paper loss, pinholes, mild creases, minor stains, and/or some fold separation. There is writing and pen marks in the top border of the poster. Please see full-color, enlargeable image above for more details. Folded, Fine+“

EMPs description
“Condition: fair to good. There is slight discoloration scattered in various areas due to exposure to moisture (more noticeable around the several tack holes around the edges of the poster). Some of the tack holes are torn or enlarged due to rough removal and there is paper loss in the upper right blank border. There is separation in the ends of some of the folds and in the crossfolds, and some crossfolds (especially the lower crossfold) have some paper loss. There is writing in portions of the upper blank border. Despite the poster's defects it is mostly "all there" and it could be restored and linenbacked and it would look great, but please bear in mind its defects and cost of restoration before placing a bid.
Learn More about condition grades“
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Post by: Harry Caul on December 30, 2018, 08:48:20 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on December 30, 2018, 08:31:34 AM
Me: "hey honey do you mind if I go out tonight and leave you with the kids"
Wife: "Fine."

 = RED FLAG

 laugh1
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Post by: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 30, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
In the history of HA poster sales, has there Ever been anything Other than a Fine something rating?

I'll go first.  No.

This Frankenstein Three-Sheet was rated Fair to Good on linen.
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/horror/frankenstein-universal-1931-three-sheet-41-x-785-style-c/a/7106-86187.s?
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Post by: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
Exact same poster.. went from HA to EMP
$770 big loss for $277

Let's see, the time prior to yours that EMP sold a A&C Meet Jekyll and Hyde one-sheet it brought $253, and the instance prior to that was $412 (at a time Uni Horror was much higher across the board).
What in those results would give you an idea that they could even come close to matching the $717 that you paid? In fact, of the six prior times they sold that poster, only once did it even break $700. It sounds like you were doomed from the start by your choice of venue.

On the other hand, in the two years prior to your sale Heritage also sold copies of the one-sheet for $1,015 and $956 (and I see three other times they sold copies for $1,000+).
When you purchase from a place that gets really strong results in a given area, you should probably consider using that place when it is time to sell.
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Post by: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
Let's see, the time prior to yours that EMP sold a A&C Meet Jekyll and Hyde one-sheet it brought $253, and the instance prior to that was $412 (at a time Uni Horror was much higher across the board).
What in those results would give you an idea that they could even come close to matching the $717 that you paid? In fact, of the six prior times they sold that poster, only once did it even break $700. It sounds like you were doomed from the start by your choice of venue.

On the other hand, in the two years prior to your sale Heritage also sold copies of the one-sheet for $1,015 and $956 (and I see three other times they sold copies for $1,000+).
When you purchase from a place that gets really strong results in a given area, you should probably consider using that place when it is time to sell.


This poster
Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (Universal, R-1956). One Sheet (27" X 41"). This Universal horror film had the studio'...

Was listed the same time I had the other one from HA at the same time, sold for 1000 on HA.
It was also listed same time when I had other poster for sale same time at EMP and sold for 940.

The grading from what I purchased is completely different. If there is discolouration disclose it. Not label it as fine plus.
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Post by: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 01:30:48 PM
Quote from: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
The grading from what I purchased is completely different. If there is discolouration disclose it. Not label it as fine plus.

Yes, because you resold it at a place that uses it a different grading system (than any other dealer).
If you thought it was discolored when you got it, then you should have returned it.
I look at the colors and think it looks great, compare yours to the colors on the copy EMP sold for $253 and did NOT label as discolored.
I would take yours in a heartbeat - darker, richer and much more vibrant.

Again, venue matters.  Don't sell Tiffanys at Wal-mart.
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Post by: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 01:30:48 PM

Again, venue matters.  Don't sell Tiffanys at Wal-mart.

So does customer service. No issues with EMP... couple with HA...
When I had one of my card sets listed with HA, they were supposed to be sent and graded by PSA (to match the others that were graded). I agreed to the wait and pay the extra charges in grading... later that time, they said they will list the cards as is instead of grading them with Psa..

I received my consignment cheque less grading charges, when the cards were never graded. After waiting and arguing with customer service and having them take a look into it. I would have to wait an additional month to receive the funds that were mischarged to me. Even though their fault for charging me, they still said I had to wait an additional month for the remainder of my funds..
Not a good experience to want you to send your other items too....
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Post by: crowzilla on December 30, 2018, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: bigmike on December 30, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
So does customer service. No issues with EMP... couple with HA...
When I had one of my card sets listed with HA, they were supposed to be sent and graded by PSA (to match the others that were graded). I agreed to the wait and pay the extra charges in grading... later that time, they said they will list the cards as is instead of grading them with Psa..

I've never dealt with sportscards, and don't really know anything about that division of Heritage or PSA (assuming you meant PSA and not CGC), but sorry to hear you had a problem.
Not sure if that would convince me to resell my items with a company that just got 1/3 of what I paid when they sold a comparable item, but I understand your reasons for doing so. If you still have any items that are coming for sale I wish you the best of luck.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 30, 2018, 03:52:10 PM
comparing the 2 venues is a fool's game.

first of all, you can't compare the grading, because one company uses a proprietary system that NO OTHER DEALER USES
EMP uses a book-grading scale, that tops out at Fine, while everyone else uses a system that goes to NM

you can see the variance by looking at this listing, where they grade these cards as VG to Fine, when they are graded NM by the third party grader
so to make comparisons, you need to create an 'interpretive scale' for comparisons. For instance, VG to F on my scale is C-5/6, but clearly, these cards are C-9/10

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/14897134.html

as to price variances, outside grading differentials:
the EMP to HA comparison is the same as Wal-Mart to Nordstroms

one prides itself on falling prices, the other prides itself on quality & results

here is a big difference

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/indiana%2520jones/archive.html

https://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=790+231+54&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=indiana+jones&ic4=KeywordSearch-A-071316

what HA is getting for Indy posters is phenomenal. Nobody has any chance of matching these results, including myself
HA is regularly getting 5-10 times the prices achieved elsewhere for these US posters.

this isn't comparing apples to oranges, this is comparing apples to apple cores
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Post by: okiehawker on December 30, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Hi Big Mike,  I'm always torn on entering discussions publicly about various dealers and auctions because if they have something I would like, I would still buy from them as long as any of my previous concerns with them were resolved in a way I thought fair. I know we all have our opinions on EMP and Heritage. From my personal experience and I've mentioned this previously, I really like EMP's condition descriptions and grading. I feel very confident as a buyer that when I receive posters from EMP,  those posters will match the described condition.  Detailed condition descriptions are my personal favorite buying information. I personally would like to see even more detail in poster descriptions at Heritage, though I feel Heritage has treated me very fair when I've had any concerns over the years and they have offered to answer any of my questions on a poster prior to auction. I sure really enjoy the posters I've bought from both EMP and Heritage (and, other dealers as well!).  A pie-in-the-sky wish of mine for auction houses would be to see light box images of linen backed posters so repairs/restoration might be more easily seen prior to purchase, though I know that would raise the cost some for each poster (also, the labor to do that may not be practical).  In just my opinion, I think EMP and Heritage have some significant crossover in the more educated poster collectors who are looking to buy posters they like for what those collectors think is a fair price.  Also, in my opinion, the "money is no object" buyers who battle together do not seem to cross over quite as much, though a few certainly do.  I'm surprised often at what seem like high prices to me on posters that show up fairly regularly in the market: must be some very healthy demand out there.  Like Crowzilla, I wish you good fortune in your future sales!   Okie
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Post by: Crazy Vick on December 30, 2018, 09:53:05 PM
That copy of The Saint in New York actually sold on emovie back in 2006 for $89

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/134190.html

Here's the description at the time from EMP:

Condition: good. Note that the poster had a triangular area of paper loss in the bottom right corner, which included approximately 3/4 of the image of the man in the hat at bottom right. Someone took a page from a "Scott" stamp album, and taped it to the back of this area (so that the blank side of the album page was facing forward, of course) and then they re-drew in the missing portion (they must have had an original poster to use as a guide). It is very crude, but it does serve its purpose in filling out the image, although it is obvious that it is a replaced area. The rest of the poster is rippled and lightly water stained throughout, and there is paper loss in three corners from rough removal of pins.

 sm1
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Post by: Simes on December 31, 2018, 05:17:44 AM
HA managed $270.

Hope the buyer is not disappointed.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 31, 2018, 09:14:47 AM
Regardless of who sells that SAINT poster, the lower right corner (repair) is plain and obvious to see, in all its "glory" and looks like it was colored in by an 8 yr old. It is very evident and is easily seen in both the regular and supersize images that both emp and HA provided.

So it's not like that corner "Cloutier-like repair" would be any surprise to a buyer, once received and looked at in person.
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Post by: crowzilla on January 01, 2019, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: Simes on December 31, 2018, 05:17:44 AM
HA managed $270.

Hope the buyer is not disappointed.

I hope the seller is not disappointed - "only" doubling his money.
As our buddy Mel would say - Heritage is like EMP on steroids.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 01, 2019, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 01, 2019, 02:32:59 PM
I hope the seller is not disappointed - "only" doubling his money.
As our buddy Mel would say - Heritage is like EMP on steroids.

HA and emp are very different.... steroids notwithstanding.  ;)
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Post by: Simes on January 03, 2019, 04:40:58 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 01, 2019, 02:32:59 PM
I hope the seller is not disappointed - "only" doubling his money.
As our buddy Mel would say - Heritage is like EMP on steroids.

Well, the seller would only get $180.  And factoring in postage and the rest leaves him not a lot...
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Post by: crowzilla on January 03, 2019, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Simes on January 03, 2019, 04:40:58 AM
Well, the seller would only get $180.  And factoring in postage and the rest leaves him not a lot...

Is $180 not double $89 anymore?

At any rate that certainly sounds a lot better than buying a poster for $7xx and selling it for $2xx as discussed on a prior page..
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 03, 2019, 02:27:12 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 03, 2019, 11:17:29 AM
Is $180 not double $89 anymore?

At any rate that certainly sounds a lot better than buying a poster for $7xx and selling it for $2xx as discussed on a prior page..

.....and I'd like to know how the owner was supposed to get more money
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Post by: Simes on January 04, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 03, 2019, 11:17:29 AM
Is $180 not double $89 anymore?

At any rate that certainly sounds a lot better than buying a poster for $7xx and selling it for $2xx as discussed on a prior page..

Indeed, but with $30+ postage to get the poster to him from EMP, and $30 postage to send it to HA, that would roughly make it to be $30 profit.

Which in my books is, 'not a lot.'
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Post by: crowzilla on January 04, 2019, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: Simes on January 04, 2019, 09:09:08 AM
Indeed, but with $30+ postage to get the poster to him from EMP, and $30 postage to send it to HA, that would roughly make it to be $30 profit.
Which in my books is, 'not a lot.'

We have a poor guy losing over $500 a sale going from HA to EMP and you want to tell people that doubling their money isn't a lot.  Doh.gif
Of course, you don't know that it cost the consignor $30 to get the poster or to reship, and it is highly unlikely that HA would accept a single $100-ish piece as a consignment (like 99.9% unlikely), so any postage would be spread between multiple submissions and hey, on a good day HA might even spring for postage.
Profit is profit, and no one ever went broke from making a profit on every sale. Sorry if it's not enough to satisfy a rich dude like you.  ???

but I still offer you a happy new year toast  cheers
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Post by: Crazy Vick on January 04, 2019, 02:04:19 PM
out of curiosity would HA even normally take/sell posters for Sunday Night auctions that have approx 8% of the poster actually missing...  I mean their posters are generally in nice condition for those auctions. Still think they dropped the ball on this one.  By auctioning it as is, its like they "validated" the "restoration".  Not only that, they called it "Fine" to boot.  :-X

If anything they should have recommended to the seller to have it restored/backed in house, and then auctioned in a major auction for example.  Pretty sure the return would've been much better even with the additional costs for HA and the consigner.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 04, 2019, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on January 04, 2019, 02:04:19 PM
out of curiosity would HA even normally take/sell posters for Sunday Night auctions that have approx 8% of the poster actually missing...  I mean their posters are generally in nice condition for those auctions. Still think they dropped the ball on this one.  By auctioning it as is, its like they "validated" the "restoration".  Not only that, they called it "Fine" to boot.  :-X

If anything they should have recommended to the seller to have it restored/backed in house, and then auctioned in a major auction for example.  Pretty sure the return would've been much better even with the additional costs for HA and the consigner.

Vick, seriously, if we as dealers aren't going to sell the item, it's worse than useless. Should emp stop selling lobby cards that have been trimmed down to the image & the borders & titles replaced with color xeroxes or digital print out? What about incomplete 3 sheet pieces?

I can tell you what the first criteria is for HA to take a poster - any item has to have a minimum value. I send HA a lot of stuff and my target is to send them a consignment (for Sundays) that will average a $100 minimum. That's my target, not theirs. I fail to see a good reason to send them material that doesn't reach a price point, especially as a dealer myself & knowing the expense of preparing this material.

In the case of this poster under discussion, it would be a fail to tell the consignor that they should linenback & restore the poster prior to sale, as the consignor would take a loss for a poster that would not achieve a high enough price to make that a good investment for a seller.
However, a collector who buys the poster and gets it restored doesn't have a profit motive and therefore, it would correctly be their choice after purchase (which almost certainly is the buyer's plan).

Simes.... how do you get to $30 for shipping?
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Post by: Crazy Vick on January 04, 2019, 03:12:37 PM
I agree generally with Rich but in this case the Saint in NY sold in October for $825 in Good to VG condition, and in April for $1250 in just Good condition in a regular auction..  And that's at EMP.  Its not a run of the mill poster its somewhat uncommon.  Imagine what it could have sold for at HA, for a simple $140 backing/resto  done in house, rather than honoring the existing resto.  Debasing themselves somewhat no? 
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 04, 2019, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on January 04, 2019, 03:12:37 PM
for a simple $140 backing/resto 

that poster would cost 300+ to restore, that would require the poster to sell for at least 1000 for the consignor to double his money

there is no simple resto for that item

if it was mine, I would have done it the same way. Just move it. Let me put the money into a better situation. The buyer can restore it to their liking
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Post by: jayn_j on January 04, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
Agree with Rich.  In my 30+ years, I have never run across a situation where backin or restoring a poster is a win financially.  You do it because you can't find a displayable copy at any price.

Mostly, I live with the fact that most defects disappear at 5 ft.
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Post by: erik1925 on January 04, 2019, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on January 04, 2019, 02:50:04 PM
Vick, seriously, if we as dealers aren't going to sell the item, it's worse than useless. Should emp stop selling lobby cards that have been trimmed down to the image & the borders & titles replaced with color xeroxes or digital print out? What about incomplete 3 sheet pieces?

I can tell you what the first criteria is for HA to take a poster - any item has to have a minimum value. I send HA a lot of stuff and my target is to send them a consignment (for Sundays) that will average a $100 minimum. That's my target, not theirs. I fail to see a good reason to send them material that doesn't reach a price point, especially as a dealer myself & knowing the expense of preparing this material.

In the case of this poster under discussion, it would be a fail to tell the consignor that they should linenback & restore the poster prior to sale, as the consignor would take a loss for a poster that would not achieve a high enough price to make that a good investment for a seller.
However, a collector who buys the poster and gets it restored doesn't have a profit motive and therefore, it would correctly be their choice after purchase (which almost certainly is the buyer's plan).

Simes.... how do you get to $30 for shipping?

Awesome explanation and analysis there, Rich.  thumbup
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Post by: Crazy Vick on January 04, 2019, 09:08:35 PM
I had a 30X40 backed and restored by Mario and he charged me 150...both the bottom left AND right corners were completely gone and needed to be re-created. 
There is no way that poster would cost 300.  Also HA could have got "their guy" to do it so it would be closer to 150 than 300.

Let's say for argument's sake the resto cost 225, the poster was originally bought for $89 = total investment $314 for an (actual) very fine poster on linen.  As mediocre paper copies have sold at EMP this year for $825 and $1250...I don't think it a stretch to say that a nice linen placed in a HA major auction would have gone beyond that mark.  Everyone would've cashed in and avoided the embarrassment.  But i guess we'll never know.  deadhorse
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Post by: okiehawker on January 04, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on January 04, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
Agree with Rich.  In my 30+ years, I have never run across a situation where backin or restoring a poster is a win financially.  You do it because you can't find a displayable copy at any price.

Mostly, I live with the fact that most defects disappear at 5 ft.

Hi Jayn_j and fellow collectors,  In my experience with linen backing/restoration, it depends on how much I spend on the poster initially and what I think its estimated market and/or aesthetic value is after backing/restoration.  Definitely, viewing pleasure comes into play as well as rarity/desirability (some things we desire in common and some things we don't, eh?). In my experience, some posters need cleaning, restoration and linenbacking, and it enhances their value visually and monetarily.  Of course not all posters need this work, though to me, some certainly do so. 
On The Saint in NY poster, 12 years passed since it sold previously, right? Hopefully, in that amount of time a higher price would be achieved and it looks like just as an investment, it did make money. Is a $300 or so investment today in backing/restoration worth it to me to try and make an additional $300 or so, if the sale is good on such a low grade example (auction or outright sale is debatable for sure)?  For selling, I think I'd rather invest the same $300 or so on a poster I bought for $3k and might sell for $6k. If it's a very rare poster I want for my own collection, sometimes common sense doesn't work and I fail to use that same "investment" thought process.  Okie
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Post by: eatbrie on January 04, 2019, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: jayn_j on January 04, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
You do it because you can't find a displayable copy at any price.

 clap clap clap

So true.  The sole reason to linenback a poster, any poster, imo.  And the only reason to buy a linenbacked copy.  Because you can't find it folded.

T
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Post by: wonka on January 05, 2019, 12:33:50 PM
I get both sides (and all sides in between the polar opposite ones) on the linenbacking issue...the discussion is ongoing yet a good one.

However, I would encourage all to consider the demographic of buyers who aren't collectors (or are lite collectors at best), and who don't frequent poster forums, don't think about rolled vs. folded, don't think about this auction house vs. that auction house, etc aka 'normal people'.

Some folks just want a cool movie poster on a given wall, either as a interior decorator or a home owner with a fav film from the 60s, and want something to really shine on display. If they see a clean example of Cool Hand Luke restored on linen up at HA sig auction, and have the money, they will buy it (perhaps for much more than the going price or what one of us would pay), end of story...it really is that simple. Linen attracts a different buyer, a whole different world, then the one we share as collectors. It only helps our chit go up or retain in value (at times).
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Post by: marklawd on January 05, 2019, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: wonka on January 05, 2019, 12:33:50 PM
....Some folks just want a cool movie poster on a given wall, either as a interior decorator or a home owner with a fav film from the 60s, and want something to really shine on display. If they see a clean example of Cool Hand Luke restored on linen up at HA sig auction, and have the money, they will buy it (perhaps for much more than the going price or what one of us would pay), end of story...it really is that simple. Linen attracts a different buyer.......

So true - think patrons of Christies and Sothebys.

Mark
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Post by: redman on January 09, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
up for grabs @emp is my most despised poster, the Oz daybill for The Apartment
imagine having that on your wall and having to look at that typography every day imbecile.gif
i couldn't even own this and keep it in a draw ;D
oh, and i am unsure who the folk are as well

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2Q1rx.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on January 09, 2019, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: redman on January 09, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
i couldn't even own this and keep it in a draw ;D
oh, and i am unsure who the folk are as well

How is this different from 98% of all Australian Daybills?
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Post by: jedgerley on January 09, 2019, 01:00:11 PM
He looks like Jigsaw from “Saw” amd she looks like that creature from “Princess Mononoke.” Ha!
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Post by: erik1925 on January 09, 2019, 01:21:18 PM
Like so many daybills, it looks like it was drawn by a 3 yr old who was handed a pen or crayon and some paper.

So completely unworthy to represent any film, be it a US or foreign production. Either the artists are very poor, they dont care how it looks or its a combination of both.  :P
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Post by: Simes on January 10, 2019, 05:16:03 AM
But as someone new to seeing this particular poster, many thanks for sharing.

That is awful.
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Post by: oldposterho on January 10, 2019, 10:04:28 AM
Dear Dog, that is horrifying.  Never seen that either, now it will be seared into my brain.

Thanks for that...
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Post by: crowzilla on January 10, 2019, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on January 09, 2019, 01:21:18 PM
Like so many daybills, it looks like it was drawn by a 3 yr old who was handed a pen or crayon and some paper.

And just think - there are people who collect Daybills. On purpose
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Post by: erik1925 on January 11, 2019, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on January 10, 2019, 01:20:56 PM
And just think - there are people who collect Daybills. On purpose

Back in the day, places Like Richardson Studio had some amazing and talented artists who created some real works of art that were both colorful, and detailed (and the actors were closely portrayed).

This link from John Reid's site, moviemem.com, shows quite a number that were done there:

https://www.moviemem.com/galleries/richardson-studio-australian-daybills.php
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 11, 2019, 02:16:55 PM
Daybill artists at work

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_01.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_02.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_03.jpg)


and here's a classic one by Frink Frizutta
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_04.jpg)

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Post by: erik1925 on January 19, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
 ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 20, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
I was able to identify the titles these pieces were drawn for.

This one is for Hair!
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_02.jpg)

Around the World in 80 Days
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_03.jpg)


and here's a classic one by Frink Frizutta
drawn for Alien, claimed to be the International style used for New Zealand
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/daybill_artists_04.jpg)
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Post by: redman on March 05, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
HA is again selling a casablanca poster as an international 1sheet which EMP sells as a film festival poster. who is right?
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: redman on March 05, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
HA is again selling a casablanca poster as an international 1sheet which EMP sells as a film festival poster. who is right?

Heritage
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Post by: redman on March 05, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
^ this is still on EMP. what they are saying seems correct because of the fold lines being in the printing. how are you so sure?

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2S4X9.png)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: redman on March 05, 2019, 03:54:45 PM
^ this is still on EMP. what they are saying seems correct because of the fold lines being in the printing. how are you so sure?


#1 the folds are not in the printing

but more importantly
#2 I have had this poster

also
#3 other experts agree with Heritage

by the way
#4 Heritage would properly examine and vet the poster for authenticity, before letting their reputation suffer


I would welcome any information or evidence EMP would post regarding this poster as proof, but they didn't last time we discussed this poster and I'm sure they won't now either. There is also a key phrase in EMP's description when they say "we did not know" concerning their previous sale

furthermore, as I posted last time as well, this poster is absolutely NOT a reproduction of the US 1949R poster. Some of the fonts are different and the image isn't exactly the same either, with numerous differences. Pretty sure I posted side-by-side images and mentioned some of these differences in the prior discussion
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Post by: redman on March 05, 2019, 04:36:46 PM
sure looks like there are folds in the printing. so there are posters for international 1sheet and film festival which happen to look similar? there has to be a film festival poster as EMP said it was on 70s paper and they were told the story of its being? didn't know of different fonts, will have a closer look ;D
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 06:11:04 PM
Quote from: redman on March 05, 2019, 04:36:46 PM
sure looks like there are folds in the printing. so there are posters for international 1sheet and film festival which happen to look similar? there has to be a film festival poster as EMP said it was on 70s paper and they were told the story of its being? didn't know of different fonts, will have a closer look ;D

let me know when you hold one in your hands
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Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2019, 08:55:27 PM
Rich, this is the poster being discussed, right?

Currently at $1000.00


https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/academy-award-winner/casablanca-warner-brothers-r-1949-fine-very-fine-on-linen-international-one-sheet-27-x-41-/a/7191-86031.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F0%2F3%2F0%2F0%2F20300659%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 09:15:16 PM
yes
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Post by: erik1925 on March 05, 2019, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
#1 the folds are not in the printing

but more importantly
#2 I have had this poster

also
#3 other experts agree with Heritage

by the way
#4 Heritage would properly examine and vet the poster for authenticity, before letting their reputation suffer


I would welcome any information or evidence EMP would post regarding this poster as proof, but they didn't last time we discussed this poster and I'm sure they won't now either. There is also a key phrase in EMP's description when they say "we did not know" concerning their previous sale

furthermore, as I posted last time as well, this poster is absolutely NOT a reproduction of the US 1949R poster. Some of the fonts are different and the image isn't exactly the same either, with numerous differences. Pretty sure I posted side-by-side images and mentioned some of these differences in the prior discussion

You discussed it, starting here, too, Rich, last Aug:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,237.msg235236.html#msg235236


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Post by: redman on March 07, 2019, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 04:04:41 PM

furthermore, as I posted last time as well, this poster is absolutely NOT a reproduction of the US 1949R poster. Some of the fonts are different and the image isn't exactly the same either, with numerous differences. Pretty sure I posted side-by-side images and mentioned some of these differences in the prior discussion

don't think those side-by-side images prove anything do they ???

does this prove that some of the fold-lines are in the print?

(http://funkyimg.com/i/2S7T5.png)
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Post by: ddilts399 on March 07, 2019, 09:47:14 PM
Whats gonna bring more money, something advertised as a 49 INTL release that no one can prove, or a mid70's rerelease that makes sense.. Just sayin.. work the cash when you can.

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Post by: redman on March 08, 2019, 01:00:38 PM
what's happened to the two HA cheerleaders ???
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Post by: okiehawker on March 09, 2019, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: ddilts399 on March 07, 2019, 09:47:14 PM
Whats gonna bring more money, something advertised as a 49 INTL release that no one can prove, or a mid70's rerelease that makes sense.. Just sayin.. work the cash when you can.

My answer would be: a much prettier poster than this one pictured!  It's kind of yucky, eh?  Okie
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Post by: cabmangray on March 09, 2019, 07:52:51 PM
Okie, I prefer the '49 version over the original 1-sheet. This looks like something Dominant would do; drab monotone or duotone. But I guess if one couldn't afford an original or '49 reissue, this would have to do. Even the '92 reissue video poster blows this away.
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Post by: okiehawker on March 09, 2019, 08:47:41 PM
Quote from: cabmangray on March 09, 2019, 07:52:51 PM
Okie, I prefer the '49 version over the original 1-sheet. This looks like something Dominant would do; drab monotone or duotone. But I guess if one couldn't afford an original or '49 reissue, this would have to do. Even the '92 reissue video poster blows this away.

Hi Cabman, It's just my taste, as I would simply do without, rather than collect this version being discussed (regardless if it's 49 international or 70s).  I just don't care for the poster image at all. Eye of the beholder, eh? Okie
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Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2019, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on March 09, 2019, 08:47:41 PM
Hi Cabman, It's just my taste, as I would simply do without rather than have this version being discussed whether it's 49 international or 70s.  I just don't care at all for it.  Eye of the beholder, eh? Okie

Why not have it discussed? There are 2 views on what this poster is. Only one answer can be correct, and I think it would benefit all collectors to learn and know, what this poster is, regardless if one likes the design or not.

Having it remain a mystery makes zero sense (imho). ;)
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Post by: okiehawker on March 09, 2019, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 09, 2019, 09:35:47 PM
Why not have it discussed? There are 2 views on what this poster is. Only one answer can be correct, and I think it would benefit all collectors to learn and know, what this poster is, regardless if one likes the design or not.

Having it remain a mystery makes zero sense (imho). ;)

Hi Jeff, Ah, I didn't mean to say it shouldn't be discussed, rather I don't find the poster that is being discussed of any beauty at all. I updated my original post to hopefully make my point more clear.  Okie
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Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
Anyone in the market for a folded JAWS OS poster?

Opening bid is $800.00 smackers:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293001452532

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7vAAAOSww9BchWrw/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: Zorba on March 10, 2019, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 10, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
Anyone in the market for a folded JAWS OS poster?

Opening bid is $800.00 smackers:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293001452532

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7vAAAOSww9BchWrw/s-l1600.jpg)

Now that Im shopping again I would love one as its on my big list but $800 sounds crazy to me.
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Post by: cabmangray on March 10, 2019, 08:25:52 PM
From looking at the other listings on eBay, his $800. asking price is the cheapest at the moment. All the other copies are $1000+! I disagree with his opinion the it could be the finest folded copy out there. Bruce had a tri-folded copy about 2 years ago and that copy was superior.

Okie, I agree with you that the monotone CASABLANCA is blah. The '49 is much better. The original 1-sheet, to me, is a missed opportunity. The art on all the other original release sizes are so much better than the 1-sheet.
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Post by: Simes on March 11, 2019, 06:41:25 AM
Yes, and Bruce has just sold one for $2k+

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15845518.html

$800 seems a steal!
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Post by: redman on March 11, 2019, 08:36:08 AM
^ Bruce price was fold free
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Post by: oldposterho on March 11, 2019, 11:46:31 AM
I'll give him $299 for the Jaws poster.
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Post by: eatbrie on March 11, 2019, 02:04:56 PM
Bad condition too.  I see tons of handling marks on the CU pictures.

T
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Post by: redman on March 13, 2019, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 05, 2019, 04:04:41 PM
#1 the folds are not in the printing

but more importantly
#2 I have had this poster

also
#3 other experts agree with Heritage

by the way
#4 Heritage would properly examine and vet the poster for authenticity, before letting their reputation suffer


I would welcome any information or evidence EMP would post regarding this poster as proof, but they didn't last time we discussed this poster and I'm sure they won't now either. There is also a key phrase in EMP's description when they say "we did not know" concerning their previous sale

furthermore, as I posted last time as well, this poster is absolutely NOT a reproduction of the US 1949R poster. Some of the fonts are different and the image isn't exactly the same either, with numerous differences. Pretty sure I posted side-by-side images and mentioned some of these differences in the prior discussion

have you been gagged by HA for writing such bollocks?

#1 still waiting for your opinion of probable evidence of fold marks being in the print
#2 wtf is this supposed to mean? you held it so you must be correct?? LOL
#3 thats good. please share this information
#4 all good. i'd imagine all auction houses do this? anyway this is about the poster, not HA

still waiting for different fonts/numerous image differences evidence
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Post by: crowzilla on March 14, 2019, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 09, 2019, 09:35:47 PM
...There are 2 views on what this poster is. Only one answer can be correct, and I think it would benefit all collectors to learn and know, what this poster is, regardless if one likes the design or not.
Having it remain a mystery makes zero sense (imho). ;)

It does seem to be a mystery, and there is a theory where both answers could be correct, but in an effort to find out more about this poster (as I've not seen one in person), I reached out to Grey to inquire about the poster since he is the only person we are aware of with one in hand.
He was gracious enough to put it on a light box and take photos to be shared with the group. The photos clearly show that there are actual fold lines on the poster. He stated that there are no printed fold lines, and that the paper is definitely vintage paper stock.

Good enough to convince me the poster they are offering is not a 1970s reproduction.
If Redman would like to argue that Grey doesn't know vintage paper stock, or that he can't tell the difference between printed folds and actual folds, he is welcome to and I won't attempt to rebut his argument.

So, what to make of Bruce's claim that the poster is for a 70s film festival? I'm not sure. Has anyone ever seen an advertisement for this alleged festival, or know where this festival was held, or who might have printed the posters to sell at said festival?

Could Bruce be mistaken about the poster? Maybe, but since he doesn't have it in hand any longer there is no way for him to double check. We only know that the one being offered currently is certainly not printed on 70s paper and doesn't have printed fold lines so it does not match the description of the one he sold.

But there is another possible answer.
Could the answer be that the organizers of the alleged festival actually reproduced this particular poster and not the US 1-sheet?
That theory would certainly allow Bruce to save face in light of the current evidence.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 14, 2019, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 14, 2019, 02:32:35 PM
It does seem to be a mystery, and there is a theory where both answers could be correct, but in an effort to find out more about this poster (as I've not seen one in person), I reached out to Grey to inquire about the poster since he is the only person we are aware of with one in hand.
He was gracious enough to put it on a light box and take photos to be shared with the group. The photos clearly show that there are actual fold lines on the poster. He stated that there are no printed fold lines, and that the paper is definitely vintage paper stock.

Good enough to convince me the poster they are offering is not a 1970s reproduction.
If Redman would like to argue that Grey doesn't know vintage paper stock, or that he can't tell the difference between printed folds and actual folds, he is welcome to and I won't attempt to rebut his argument.

So, what to make of Bruce's claim that the poster is for a 70s film festival? I'm not sure. Has anyone ever seen an advertisement for this alleged festival, or know where this festival was held, or who might have printed the posters to sell at said festival?

Could Bruce be mistaken about the poster? Maybe, but since he doesn't have it in hand any longer there is no way for him to double check. We only know that the one being offered currently is certainly not printed on 70s paper and doesn't have printed fold lines so it does not match the description of the one he sold.

But there is another possible answer.
Could the answer be that the organizers of the alleged festival actually reproduced this particular poster and not the US 1-sheet?
That theory would certainly allow Bruce to save face in light of the current evidence.

Great info, Sean.

And a huge shout out and thanks to Grey Smith who took the time to provide the light box photos, showing true fold lines rather suspected printed ones. clap clap  notworthy.gif
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Post by: redman on March 14, 2019, 04:33:42 PM
not sure what i'm looking at to be honest - wasn't poster folded there anyway?
the picture i posted is from a HA sale (fairly certain 2018). i guess the poster in this image could have been refolded incorrectly but they sure looked like printed fold-lines to me
thanks for update, i will probably pass on bidding for it thumbup
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Post by: crowzilla on March 14, 2019, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: redman on March 14, 2019, 04:33:42 PM
not sure what i'm looking at to be honest - wasn't poster folded there anyway?
the picture i posted is from a HA sale (fairly certain 2018). i guess the poster in this image could have been refolded incorrectly but they sure looked like printed fold-lines to me
thanks for update, i will probably pass on bidding for it thumbup

and what about the fact it is on correct paper?
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Post by: redman on March 14, 2019, 05:40:05 PM
^ when a poster is linen-backed it is washed and things are done to it. is it possible for the paper to be then harder to date?
if not then i guess it is from 1949. i still believe bruce to be telling the truth also though ;D
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Post by: rumble on March 14, 2019, 05:51:57 PM
Sotheby’s sure has some “advanced” prices. The Japanese TOTORO is kind of rare, but £1,300 rare?! Wonder if they will sell mine too!
https://www.sothebys.com/buy/b505b7a0-4818-4a70-b76c-e70ff9c56c8c/lots/ba57a383-8ef8-4f67-868e-28684dc0cace
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Post by: crowzilla on March 14, 2019, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: redman on March 14, 2019, 05:40:05 PM
^ when a poster is linen-backed it is washed and things are done to it. is it possible for the paper to be then harder to date?
if not then i guess it is from 1949. i still believe bruce to be telling the truth also though ;D

nah, you collect older paper. there is no mistaking paper from the 30s/40s for paper from the 70s
especially that thinner kind WB/RKO and others used during this time period.

Like I said, I wonder if there was an actual reprint made of this (for a festival or whatever) in the 70s? would certainly explain a lot.
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Post by: okiehawker on March 14, 2019, 09:31:05 PM
I'm a big fan of light boxing.  I would certainly go with what Grey saw on this specific poster.  Interesting question, Crow, on if it also was reproduced. I don't like to discount other collector's tastes, though, man, it sure is not attractive to me.  Okie
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: redman on March 13, 2019, 06:28:22 PM
have you been gagged by HA for writing such bollocks?

#1 still waiting for your opinion of probable evidence of fold marks being in the print
#2 wtf is this supposed to mean? you held it so you must be correct?? LOL
#3 thats good. please share this information
#4 all good. i'd imagine all auction houses do this? anyway this is about the poster, not HA

still waiting for different fonts/numerous image differences evidence

wow.. not ignorant much are you.

first of all, I'm not surprised that when I go away for a week or two that some mewling bitch starts braying like a jackass. I mean, you would think even a moron would be able to check the member data and see if they even visited the site in weeks (in my case, due to being away at first, busy in return at second). Then again, you've showed your ass side before, ergo, why it doesn't surprise me you show it again.

as to whether HA asks me to post or not post: No one at Heritage has ever asked me to post anything and certainly didn't ask me to discuss this poster. As a matter of fact, the braying jackass asked the question. He just doesn't like the answer and continues to hee-haw. I post what I want, at my own wish.

to the poster, as I said previously, I've actually handled this poster, having had one (yay HA for selling it at 12k. yay!), and there was no question it was a vintage poster. Moreover, there are numerous inconsistencies with the description at EMP.

Quote
Note that this is a very unusual poster. It appears to be a 1949 re-release Casablanca one-sheet, because it has all the correct NSS information at the bottom, but it is not. The 1949 re-release is two-color (red and black), while this poster is one-color (brown). We have sold this poster in the past, and did not know exactly what it was, but we correctly guessed that is from the 1970s (it is printed on paper consistent with one-sheets from that period, and it was folded like a one-sheet (although of course this example has been linenbacked). WE NOW KNOW THE ORIGIN OF THE POSTER! It was printed for a Bogart film festival in the 1970s. The festival organizers could not afford full-color posters, so they used a 1949 re-release poster and had it photographed and reprinted. So please bid on this poster knowing it is a 1970s film festival poster that reproduces the 1949 re-release one-sheet.

first of all, they have sold this poster in the past according to the note, but the poster they sold previously
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/532593.html
had originally been described as a military poster, prior to EMP once again 'changing history' and editing the description.

secondly, the poster above was a folded poster, not on linen.
so how are the two posters the same? are there reproduced fold lines that do not match the actual fold lines?

Next, to anyone who has an eye, it is absolutely NOT a reproduction of a 1949 tri-color poster. The art is not exactly the same, the fonts are not all the same, the color blocks are not the same

the posters are not the same. it is absolutely not a reproduction of the 1949 poster

furthermore, what evidence is there that this poster is a film festival as they now say? I'd love to hear the evidence, but I doubt it is forthcoming.

not surprising, HA at one point also sold this poster as military, probably using the available database and not realizing that NSS never did military distribution, as the government had it's own distribution system. It took some other discovery to realize this was an international poster.
For note: international posters of the 1940s were not usually full color and a key factor is that NSS did not stamp the back of international posters. I have seen other examples of such posters, but can't find any that have been sold in auction easily, so I can't direct anyone to a listing offhand.

this poster is a 1949R international and people don't have to believe anything they don't want to, because that is a personal choice, but it is clear, more 'professionals' than not have the opinion it is what I say. I'll trust the professionals (including myself).
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Post by: redman on March 22, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
wow.. not ignorant much are you.

first of all, I'm not surprised that when I go away for a week or two that some mewling bitch starst braying like a jackass. I mean, you would think even a moron would be able to check the member data and see if they even visited the site in weeks (in my case, due to being away at first, busy in return at second). Then again, you've showed your ass side before, ergo, why it doesn't surprise me you show it again.


this just shows what type of person you are eyeroll who checks member data ???
anyway i am sure you had an internet connection wherever you went.
you just can't give up your emp digs can you. must be jealousy ;D
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Post by: jedgerley on March 22, 2019, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
wow.. not ignorant much are you.

first of all, I'm not surprised that when I go away for a week or two that some mewling bitch starst braying like a jackass. I mean, you would think even a moron would be able to check the member data and see if they even visited the site in weeks (in my case, due to being away at first, busy in return at second). Then again, you've showed your ass side before, ergo, why it doesn't surprise me you show it again.

as to whether HA asks me to post or not post: No one at Heritage has ever asked me to post anything and certainly didn't ask me to discuss this poster. As a matter of fact, the braying jackass asked the question. He just doesn't like the answer and continues to hee-haw. I post what I want, at my own wish.

to the poster, as I said previously, I've actually handled this poster, having had one (yay HA for selling it at 12k. yay!), and there was no question it was a vintage poster. Moreover, there are numerous inconsistencies with the description at EMP.

first of all, they have sold this poster in the past according to the note, but the poster they sold previously
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/532593.html
had originally been described as a military poster, prior to EMP once again 'changing history' and editing the description.

secondly, the poster above was a folded poster, not on linen.
so how are the two posters the same? are there reproduced fold lines that do not match the actual fold lines?

Next, to anyone who has an eye, it is absolutely NOT a reproduction of a 1949 tri-color poster. The art is not exactly the same, the fonts are not all the same, the color blocks are not the same

the posters are not the same. it is absolutely not a reproduction of the 1949 poster

furthermore, what evidence is there that this poster is a film festival as they now say? I'd love to hear the evidence, but I doubt it is forthcoming.

not surprising, HA at one point also sold this poster as military, probably using the available database and not realizing that NSS never did military distribution, as the government had it's own distribution system. It took some other discovery to realize this was an international poster.
For note: international posters of the 1940s were not usually full color and a key factor is that NSS did not stamp the back of international posters. I have seen other examples of such posters, but can't find any that have been sold in auction easily, so I can't direct anyone to a listing offhand.

this poster is a 1949R international and people don't have to believe anything they don't want to, because that is a personal choice, but it is clear, more 'professionals' than not have the opinion it is what I say. I'll trust the professionals (including myself).
.

Too long didnt read...jk
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: redman on March 22, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
this just shows what type of person you are eyeroll who checks member data ???
anyway i am sure you had an internet connection wherever you went.
you just can't give up your emp digs can you. must be jealousy ;D

I'm not digging at anyone. You asked questions and I gave factual answers. If you don't want the answers, don't ask the questions

same thing that if you don't want people treating you like an ass Redman, don't be an ass..
you see how that works?
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Post by: redman on March 22, 2019, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 05:22:12 PM
I'm not digging at anyone. You asked questions and I gave factual answers. If you don't want the answers, don't ask the questions

same thing that if you don't want people treating you like an ass Redman, don't be an ass..
you see how that works?

not digging at anyone ;D (this clown and crowzilla PM each other to dig EMP and lick HA)
but you are right in some ways - why ask you questions if you take w e e k s to answer. won't bother again!
also, don't think you can bully/troll me - not going to happen
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: redman on March 22, 2019, 05:46:36 PM
not digging at anyone ;D (this clown and crowzilla PM each other to dig EMP and lick HA)
but you are right in some ways - why ask you questions if you take w e e k s to answer. won't bother again!
also, don't think you can bully/troll me - not going to happen

the only troll was you, when you wanted to act like a braying jackass.
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Post by: redman on March 22, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 05:51:54 PM
the only troll was you, when you wanted to act like a braying jackass.


oh so trolls ask legitimate questions about posters. okey dokey eyeroll
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Post by: redman on March 22, 2019, 06:55:08 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 22, 2019, 04:47:40 PM


Next, to anyone who has an eye, it is absolutely NOT a reproduction of a 1949 tri-color poster. The art is not exactly the same, the fonts are not all the same, the color blocks are not the same

the posters are not the same. it is absolutely not a reproduction of the 1949 poster

furthermore, what evidence is there that this poster is a film festival as they now say? I'd love to hear the evidence, but I doubt it is forthcoming.



don't think anyone said it was repo? taken from a photo of '49 poster and then printed was what i read. anyway you keep banging on about different fonts and i cannot be bothered looking. can you provide links?
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Post by: crowzilla on March 23, 2019, 02:03:05 AM
Quote from: redman on March 22, 2019, 05:46:36 PM
not digging at anyone ;D (this clown and crowzilla PM each other to dig EMP and lick HA)

I don't believe I've ever said an unkind word to you or disrespected you, why are you dragging me into this?
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Post by: redman on March 23, 2019, 04:43:42 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on March 23, 2019, 02:03:05 AM
I don't believe I've ever said an unkind word to you or disrespected you, why are you dragging me into this?

i'm not dragging you into anything
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Post by: eatbrie on March 28, 2019, 03:08:12 PM
Just checking Bruce's auctions for later today, and this kinda amazes me.  I know it's not a lot of money, but anything more than $1 is too much imo. 

What are people thinking?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7853/33611119538_20408912b4_o.png)

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2019, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on March 28, 2019, 03:08:12 PM
What are people thinking?

they aren't
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Post by: hepcatpunk on March 28, 2019, 04:32:20 PM
If "Faded" is any part of the description, absolute avoid on my end.
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Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2019, 04:53:16 PM
That poster is beyond faded.....

Unreal that people either DONT read a description, as its clearly stated, loudly & boldly, that this poster is very sun faded....

....And, hence, basically worthless..

So, its either that, or just another bidder with cash to burn.  hitself dontknow.gif
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2019, 07:16:07 PM
in all fairness, it could be a buyer who expects to never be able to afford a nice copy and will be happy to have this in the man cave (or gal cave)

everyone can't necessarily afford to buy high value posters, for a variety of reasons
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Post by: eatbrie on March 28, 2019, 08:09:38 PM
$155 right now, which is exactly the same price than Dave's reprint...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7916/47489181061_b47303c172_o.png)

Guess which one will look better in a frame?

T
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Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2019, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on March 28, 2019, 07:16:07 PM
in all fairness, it could be a buyer who expects to never be able to afford a nice copy and will be happy to have this in the man cave (or gal cave)

everyone can't necessarily afford to buy high value posters, for a variety of reasons

 thumbsup.gif
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Post by: okiehawker on March 28, 2019, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on March 28, 2019, 11:13:09 PM
thumbsup.gif

Who needs lots of money, when guys like our our very own Jeff still find movie goodies at their local local junk shop!  Say, let's go huntin' with Jeff!   Okie
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Post by: redman on March 31, 2019, 05:19:39 PM
re fading, HA say this has "mild unaddressed color fading" ;D
(https://funkyimg.com/i/2SPaY.jpg)
it's good to see HA use the dreaded word "fading" in their descriptions...but come on..all the reds have gone?
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Post by: jayn_j on April 01, 2019, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: redman on March 31, 2019, 05:19:39 PM
re fading, HA say this has "mild unaddressed color fading" ;D
(https://funkyimg.com/i/2SPaY.jpg)
it's good to see HA use the dreaded word "fading" in their descriptions...but come on..all the reds have gone?
Well, Astaire/Rogers material is relatively hard to find.  I paid $100 for this faded one myself a couple of years ago.
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/1-gay-divorcee-astaire-&-rogers-dance-style-us-lobby-card-1934-01.jpg)
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Post by: redman on April 01, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
^ that's a nice card. yours doesn't look that much different from bruces Hershenson/Allen Archive one

(https://funkyimg.com/i/2SQfp.jpg)
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Post by: redman on April 01, 2019, 01:35:58 PM
Bonhams will be selling The Phantom of the Opera (1925) three-sheet in May
estimate is US$ 200,000 - 300,000, £ 150,000 - 230,000
do you think it will sell?

(https://funkyimg.com/i/2SQh7.jpg)
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Post by: erik1925 on April 01, 2019, 01:39:41 PM
^ Love , love LOVE that POTO 3 sheet!  bed1 bed1

Pricey, but it may sell, as that has to be ONE rare bird, for sure.
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Post by: jayn_j on April 01, 2019, 01:46:57 PM
Quote from: redman on April 01, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
^ that's a nice card. yours doesn't look that much different from bruces Hershenson/Allen Archive one

(https://funkyimg.com/i/2SQfp.jpg)

Both are faded compared to another scene card I have:
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_gay_divorcee_a_BM10920_T.jpg)

And here is an unfaded Shall We Dance card I own for comparison. (color balance is Bruce's and a bit different)
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_shall_we_dance_TB01073_C.jpg)
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Post by: redman on April 01, 2019, 02:11:49 PM
more nice cards - getting quite jealous here ;D the gay divorcee lobby looks almost new
i would guess that the shall we dance with F&G rollerskating is one of the most wanted. you can see the colour in their faces compared to the white ones in the recent HA sale
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Post by: CSM on April 01, 2019, 03:09:47 PM
Cool POTO three sheet - don't believe I have seen it before
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Post by: crowzilla on April 01, 2019, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: redman on April 01, 2019, 01:35:58 PM
Bonhams will be selling The Phantom of the Opera (1925) three-sheet in May
estimate is US$ 200,000 - 300,000, £ 150,000 - 230,000
do you think it will sell?

Not at that price, no.
Phantom paper with no Phantom? Still very rare, yes but I can't see someone putting up that kind of price for it.
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Post by: erik1925 on April 01, 2019, 04:23:56 PM
Might as well add the Bonhams link and info.

Would love to know the provenance and who had this up to now.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25491/preview_lot/5252254/?category=list&length=10&page=1

The Phantom of the Opera

Universal Pictures, 1925. Three sheet poster, linen-backed, framed. It is hard to imagine that The Phantom of the Opera, in its various incarnations before its 1925 release, went through several directors, massive editing, two dreadful audience previews, two reshoots, and even a romantic comedy plot before it became the jewel of Universal Pictures that it remains to this day. Lon Chaney, in arguably his greatest role, expertly created the makeup that proved to be the most accurate and loyal to the book, more so than any other film version. The unmasking scene in which Chaney's monstrous visage was revealed prompted 1925 audiences into screaming fits. The haunting and atmospheric cinematography, the lavish and exhaustively precise sets, and Chaney's moving yet frightening performance all assemble to create the definitive interpretation of Gaston Leroux's 1910 novel. This sumptuously illustrated three sheet poster is possibly the only one of its kind still in existence.

Overall: 42 x 81 in.; poster: 41 x 78.5 in.
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Post by: okiehawker on April 01, 2019, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 01, 2019, 04:23:56 PM
Might as well add the Bonhams link and info.

Would love to know the provenance and who had this up to now.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25491/preview_lot/5252254/?category=list&length=10&page=1

The Phantom of the Opera

Universal Pictures, 1925. Three sheet poster, linen-backed, framed. It is hard to imagine that The Phantom of the Opera, in its various incarnations before its 1925 release, went through several directors, massive editing, two dreadful audience previews, two reshoots, and even a romantic comedy plot before it became the jewel of Universal Pictures that it remains to this day. Lon Chaney, in arguably his greatest role, expertly created the makeup that proved to be the most accurate and loyal to the book, more so than any other film version. The unmasking scene in which Chaney's monstrous visage was revealed prompted 1925 audiences into screaming fits. The haunting and atmospheric cinematography, the lavish and exhaustively precise sets, and Chaney's moving yet frightening performance all assemble to create the definitive interpretation of Gaston Leroux's 1910 novel. This sumptuously illustrated three sheet poster is possibly the only one of its kind still in existence.

Overall: 42 x 81 in.; poster: 41 x 78.5 in.

Pretty darn cool that exists, eh Jeff?!  Thanks for pointing it out.  Okie
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Post by: erik1925 on April 02, 2019, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on April 01, 2019, 08:39:35 PM
Pretty darn cool that exists, eh Jeff?!  Thanks for pointing it out.  Okie

You're darn tootin', Okie.  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: crowzilla on April 04, 2019, 03:15:21 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on April 01, 2019, 04:23:56 PM
Would love to know the provenance and who had this up to now.

Pretty sure this was owned by Wes Shank
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Post by: pratschm on June 16, 2019, 04:18:49 PM
Think I'll bid on a 6sh... oh wait...
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Post by: eatbrie on June 16, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Haaaaa!!!!  I tried on that fucking concert poster.   Couldn’t do it :(

Fun to me is that I own more than half those posters, and I paid a fraction of what they sold for.  Always fun to watch :)

T
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Post by: Tob on June 16, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
Had four on my watchlist, didn’t get near any of them! Looks like I need to save more! Some good bidding scraps going on there, the 6 sheet in particular
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Post by: jpicken on June 16, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
 /shakes fist at 70mmWIDESCREEN
Well at least I made him pay a little more to get what he wanted for the one item I was really interested in.

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Post by: hepcatpunk on June 16, 2019, 05:56:20 PM
I accidentally added a 5th digit to my bid for the Starfall, so no surprise I won.  Not real happy about it, despite it being a fantastic image.  Did get the Polish Yoda, which almost completes my Polish SW collection---just need the shitty Jedi cast one.  Snagged a few others as well---mixed feelings overall given the Starfall fiasco.  Some crazy prices...thankfully have a lot of them already.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 16, 2019, 07:42:07 PM
I think that an all Star Wars sale is probably THE worst place to buy Star Wars posters.  All the prices are jacked up, because you get the Star Wars collectors and the accidental buyer, especially the way King Bruce has been advertising his sale.  I mean, most of these prices are twice what they should be.  Good for Bruce, though.  I wish I was selling.

T
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Post by: jpicken on June 16, 2019, 09:44:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 16, 2019, 07:42:07 PM
I think that an all Star Wars sale is probably THE worst place to buy Star Wars posters.

Totally agree, but there were some rare birds in that auction. Sometimes you have to take a shot at them when you see them.  :D
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Post by: pratschm on June 16, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
Agreed as well. Probably the only time the rare ones will pop up, so you gotta go for them, but for the others just wait for the next rolled auction.
Congrats to those that did score some.
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Post by: Tob on June 17, 2019, 04:36:31 AM
Quote from: hepcatpunk on June 16, 2019, 05:56:20 PM
I accidentally added a 5th digit to my bid for the Starfall, so no surprise I won.

I did raise an eyebrow when I saw your name and the winning bid. That must be annoying, but it's a beautiful poster and the way prices are going, it'll probably be around that mark in about 8 months!
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Post by: Simes on June 17, 2019, 05:00:05 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 16, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Fun to me is that I own more than half those posters, and I paid a fraction of what they sold for.  Always fun to watch :)

T

And, in 10 years' time, someone else will be watching an auction thinking back to 2019 when they too 'paid a fraction of what they are selling for...'
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Post by: hepcatpunk on June 17, 2019, 10:08:18 AM
Quote from: Tob on June 17, 2019, 04:36:31 AM
I did raise an eyebrow when I saw your name and the winning bid. That must be annoying, but it's a beautiful poster and the way prices are going, it'll probably be around that mark in about 8 months!

Lol, yeah, meant my high to be about half the winning bid, instead I bid half a car. Lesson learned. Amazing in all my years of bidding on things I hadn't done that before.....getting old.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 17, 2019, 03:24:56 PM
I was skiing about 4 years ago and accidentally bid $75k on a HA poster.  I couldn't see the screen and touched the wrong button.  For about ten seconds there, I owned the poster.  My wife was not happy.  It eventually sold for $110k.

:)

T
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Post by: eatbrie on June 17, 2019, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: Simes on June 17, 2019, 05:00:05 AM
And, in 10 years' time, someone else will be watching an auction thinking back to 2019 when they too 'paid a fraction of what they are selling for...'

All I hope is for my kids to get something out of my collection when time comes.  As of yesterday, they will more than quadruple what I spent on Star Wars.  I think it's a fluke, though.  Bruce has been advertising like crazy.  A 6sht is NOT worth $9k.  $3k at most.

T
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Post by: Simes on June 19, 2019, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 17, 2019, 03:24:56 PM
I was skiing about 4 years ago and accidentally bid $75k on a HA poster.  I couldn't see the screen and touched the wrong button.  For about ten seconds there, I owned the poster.  My wife was not happy.  It eventually sold for $110k.

:)

T

Bloody hell!

Can one ask what you meant to bid?
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Post by: eatbrie on June 19, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
Nothing at all.  A friend of mine was intrigued and I was just showing her the website.  "You see that red button there?  Well, if you push it, you bid!!!"  I removed my glove and bid :)

T
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Post by: Simes on June 20, 2019, 01:21:40 AM
I can imagine if me, going rapidly into a cold sweat.  My ski suit being wetter on the inside than on the out.  My eyes feverishly and demandingly imploring someone else to bid...

Must have been a loo-oong 10 seconds.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 24, 2019, 01:02:57 AM
Well, it's hard to be a gambler
Bettin' on the number
That changes every time
Well, you think you're gonna win
Think she's givin' in
A stranger's all you find
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Post by: jedgerley on June 24, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
And now Thierry’s wife makes him wear ski gloves every Sunday. Har har.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 24, 2019, 10:54:27 PM
She doesn't have to worry much anymore.  With 3 kids, my Sunday bidding has almost disintegrated.  Especially HA.  We're always at the beach, or at a bday party, or any other place where I forget to bid or just cannot leave and be rude.

 >:(

T
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Post by: okiehawker on July 27, 2019, 09:46:23 PM
Got one poster up to now at Heritage. I bid on a few more that were going to be bargains and perhaps still were when I dropped out. Anyone else successful so far?  Okie
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2019, 10:54:18 PM
this one

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Post by: okiehawker on July 27, 2019, 11:59:28 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 27, 2019, 10:54:18 PM
this one

I thought about you when I saw that poster, Richie! Wondered if you might go after it.  Cool Die Nibelungen poster!  Okie
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Post by: eatbrie on July 28, 2019, 01:28:38 AM
Yeah, got two so far, which is okay because I only had 15 minutes to bid today and they happened to be both at the beginning of the sale.  After that, it was beach time.

T
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 28, 2019, 04:09:55 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 27, 2019, 11:59:28 PM
I thought about you when I saw that poster, Richie! Wondered if you might go after it.  Cool Die Nibelungen poster!  Okie

thanks Okie..
I had it marked from day one

hard to believe I got it as cheaply as I did
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Post by: okiehawker on July 28, 2019, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 28, 2019, 01:28:38 AM
Yeah, got two so far, which is okay because I only had 15 minutes to bid today and they happened to be both at the beginning of the sale.  After that, it was beach time.

T

Were you hunting Star Wars perhaps, T?  Okie
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Post by: okiehawker on July 28, 2019, 09:06:48 PM
Quote from: MoviePosterBid.com on July 28, 2019, 04:09:55 AM
thanks Okie..
I had it marked from day one

hard to believe I got it as cheaply as I did

Yeah, Richie, those awesome early German posters are so hard to find, if at all.  Yours is also impressive in size at 47" x 56"!  Fritz Lang, too!  Awesome!
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 28, 2019, 09:18:52 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 28, 2019, 09:06:48 PM
Yeah, Richie, those awesome early German posters are so hard to find, if at all.  Yours is also impressive in size at 47" x 56"!  Fritz Lang, too!  Awesome!

I think the size noted is incorrect as the proportions don't seem right. I suggest it is either 37 wide or 66 tall
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Post by: okiehawker on July 28, 2019, 09:58:42 PM
Makes sense, Richie.  I'm curious to hear the size when you get it.  Okie
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Post by: 50s on November 19, 2019, 09:54:49 AM
Party pooper

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA191112/550/japanese_b2_crazy_horse_de_paris_CS05636_B.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5587596)
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Post by: erik1925 on November 20, 2019, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 19, 2019, 09:54:49 AM
Party pooper

(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA191112/550/japanese_b2_crazy_horse_de_paris_CS05636_B.jpg) (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5587596)

Your linked image is that same wagging finger that emp employs when doing 3rd party linking, Steve.  :P
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Post by: 50s on November 21, 2019, 08:40:02 AM
Oh yea. EMP and preventing poster buyers seeing their product
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Post by: erik1925 on November 22, 2019, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 21, 2019, 08:40:02 AM
Oh yea. EMP and preventing poster buyers seeing their product

Yup. 
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Post by: Simes on November 23, 2019, 06:01:32 AM
Well, not really.

The product Can be seen on their website.  Just not via the rest of the world's websites that then cost further in bandwidth issues and $.

Seems simple enough.
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Post by: 50s on November 24, 2019, 04:22:49 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 23, 2019, 06:01:32 AM
Well, not really.

The product Can be seen on their website.  Just not via the rest of the world's websites that then cost further in bandwidth issues and $.

Seems simple enough.

It is simple, EMP can whitelist websites like this site full of poster collectors so that images can be seen. The traffic to images just from this site would be negligible for the potential gains large
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Post by: crowzilla on November 24, 2019, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: 50s on November 21, 2019, 08:40:02 AM
Oh yea. EMP and preventing poster buyers seeing their product

I just assume it's part of their no advertising policy.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 07, 2019, 11:30:12 PM
Will be interesting to see if any more pennies are added to this poster's auction bid when all is said and done, in about 17 hours.

Currently at $12,001.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5603674
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Post by: Antoine1973 on December 09, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
Erik, that French King Kong poster sold for $24,500 yesterday:
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5603674
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Post by: crowzilla on December 09, 2019, 10:38:46 AM
Quote from: erik1925 on December 07, 2019, 11:30:12 PM
Will be interesting to see if any more pennies are added to this poster's auction bid when all is said and done, in about 17 hours.

Currently at $12,001.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5603674

That used to be a staple in the 10-15K range, then Heritage popped one a half dozen years back at over $40K, and now it seems it never sells below $25K.
Beautiful poster but a copy seems to surface in a major auction yearly.
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Post by: erik1925 on December 09, 2019, 08:48:33 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on December 09, 2019, 10:38:46 AM
That used to be a staple in the 10-15K range, then Heritage popped one a half dozen years back at over $40K, and now it seems it never sells below $25K.
Beautiful poster but a copy seems to surface in a major auction yearly.

Final winning bid of $24,500.00. So very spot on in your call, Sean.

And HA got over $40K for a copy? Amazing and good on them. 
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Post by: redman on March 09, 2020, 01:38:24 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xEhDTPXk0ybFS/giphy.gif)

Ewbanks are auctioning a Help! quad this week
it's the same one EMP sold late 2018, heres how they described it

(https://funkyimg.com/i/32XWC.jpg)

important to know this as Ewbanks still haven't provided a condition report thumbup
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Post by: Simes on March 09, 2020, 05:47:45 PM
Some questions.

Have you asked for a condition report?  It seems as though you know its provenance.

Can I ask how you know this to be the same piece?

Also, to be frank, and without taking sides, I have not known Any auction house to provide descriptions to the quality or depth as those of emp.  Which, by way of example, has anyone had a description like this from Heritage?
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Post by: redman on March 09, 2020, 06:13:32 PM
^ of course i have asked for a condition report (i have also asked for condition reports from them in the past for non posters and received nothing, so i know their customer service can be dog shit but when they are flogging a 1K poster with 'issues' it needs calling out?)
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Post by: Simes on March 10, 2020, 05:26:58 AM
And my other points...??
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Post by: redman on March 10, 2020, 07:00:10 AM
^not sure what you mean. i know i wouldn't be happy receiving a poster with 40x2inch replaced paper and oh its faded too. but that's just me ???
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Post by: marklawd on March 10, 2020, 07:23:50 AM
The golden rule with provincial auctions is that you must rely on your own (or a trusted individual's) inspection of the poster. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen terrible condition posters sell for inflated prices with the inevitable conclusion that the winner bidder is going to be disappointed at best. 

Mark
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on March 11, 2020, 05:34:57 AM
UK auctions are terrible for condition reports.

I have asked countless times at Ewbanks and Astons and get nothing back.

I'll tell you why.

There are lots of 'newbies' who think they can make a fast buck by buying up lots at these auctions, pushing prices up. These auction houses know this so why give descriptions of individual posters in bulk lots when they know they are getting good prices ( and risk losing money if they accurately describe each individual poster)

For example:

50+ posters including Flash Gordon, Gone with the Wind, Magnum Force, Evil Dead, Top Gun, The Thing and others all in generally very good condition.

50+ posters including Flash Gordon (tears to edges), Gone with the Wind (vg) Magnum Force (1" piece missing bottom edge) Evil Dead (fold wear), Top Gun (vg) The Thing (fold separations) and others.

Which one if you're a newbie are you more likely to bid heavily on?

Good luck in selling a percentage of these posters with pieces missing.

Mark is right, spend the petrol/train fare and get down to the auction to view it yourself. It's the only way these days.

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Post by: 50s on March 11, 2020, 06:09:24 AM
Ohhhh, I so want an Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman 3 sheet (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/science-fiction/attack-of-the-50-foot-woman-allied-artists-1958-very-fine-on-linen-three-sheet-415-x-785-reynold-brown-artwork/a/7219-86428.s) like being auctioned at HA.com
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Post by: crowzilla on March 11, 2020, 11:24:24 AM
Quote from: 50s on March 11, 2020, 06:09:24 AM
Ohhhh, I so want an Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman 3 sheet (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/science-fiction/attack-of-the-50-foot-woman-allied-artists-1958-very-fine-on-linen-three-sheet-415-x-785-reynold-brown-artwork/a/7219-86428.s) like being auctioned at HA.com

Definitely the best paper on the title, expect it to do quite well.
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Post by: Simes on March 11, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
Quote from: redman on March 10, 2020, 07:00:10 AM
^not sure what you mean. i know i wouldn't be happy receiving a poster with 40x2inch replaced paper and oh its faded too. but that's just me ???

Quote
Some questions.

Have you asked for a condition report?  It seems as though you know its provenance.

Can I ask how you know this to be the same piece?

Also, to be frank, and without taking sides, I have not known Any auction house to provide descriptions to the quality or depth as those of emp.  Which, by way of example, has anyone had a description like this from Heritage?

The bits in bold sir...!   :-\
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Post by: redman on March 11, 2020, 03:00:09 PM
that isn't relevant but i do have a good eye for detail and i remember the emp sale thumbup
the shocking thing is Ewbanks are not providing condition reports (and not just for posters)
it's their fecking job to get best price for consignors and not doing this will mean less bids ???
(i'd say that not providing a report on that Help! poster was borderline criminal considering it was in a specialist poster auction)
it certainly means there is zero chance i would ever consign to them
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Post by: eatbrie on March 20, 2020, 07:36:07 PM
Just checked tomorrow's HA Sig auction.  Some good stuff there.  I might try to go after a couple.  Everything is linenbacked, though.  So sad.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on April 08, 2020, 05:09:34 PM
I was checking Bruce's auctions and noticed that they end in 20 days.  I also noticed that people keep bidding and overbidding each other.  Can someone explain to me why?  We all know that bidding happens within the last 5 minutes, so why are people getting at it so early?

T
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Post by: eric160634 on April 08, 2020, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 08, 2020, 05:09:34 PM
I was checking Bruce's auctions and noticed that they end in 20 days.  I also noticed that people keep bidding and overbidding each other.  Can someone explain to me why?  We all know that bidding happens within the last 5 minutes, so why are people getting at it so early?

They don't have anything better to do right now?
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Post by: okiehawker on April 08, 2020, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: eric160634 on April 08, 2020, 06:14:36 PM
They don't have anything better to do right now?

A buddy and I have been talking about the same thing.  Dagnabbit!  Okie
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Post by: eatbrie on April 08, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
Sometimes I watch something go up and up, and I’m like, stop, I’ll get it no matter what, so stop making it more expensive for me.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on April 09, 2020, 02:22:28 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 08, 2020, 05:09:34 PM
I was checking Bruce's auctions and noticed that they end in 20 days.  I also noticed that people keep bidding and overbidding each other.  Can someone explain to me why?  We all know that bidding happens within the last 5 minutes, so why are people getting at it so early?

T

It's called price discovery. Many other collectors have a budget when they bid, and during the course of the auction must make choices and narrow down the list of items they are interested in. If they know piece A is going to sell for more than price X early on, then then can concentrate on piece B and C instead.

Not everyone gets to go T style - just bid on everything you want at the last day and let the auction house add it up and send a bill later.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 09, 2020, 07:37:13 AM
This is exactly what I've said previously. "Price discovery" didnt know there was a  term for it.

Here's another possibility: fantasy russian roulette. This is when you press the bid button on a super expensive poster you would never be able to afford and watch whether someone will bid on top of you.  The closer you get to the end of the auction the higher the adrenaline rush.
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Post by: Crazy Vick on April 09, 2020, 07:41:53 AM
The "fantasy" part comes from a realization that if no one raises the bid and you end up having to pay for the poster, your wife would be beside herself and possibly leave you, hence the "hmmm what if I was single again today..."
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Post by: eatbrie on April 09, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
I do Fantasy Bid a lot hahaha, but more to raise the price on someone I don't like.  I will say 75% of the time, the other party ends up paying way way more than they should have, and 25% I'm stuck with something I didn't really want in the first place.  What gives me more satisfaction....  hmmm

T
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Post by: okiehawker on April 09, 2020, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 09, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
I do Fantasy Bid a lot hahaha, but more to raise the price on someone I don't like.  I will say 75% of the time, the other party ends up paying way way more than they should have, and 25% I'm stuck with something I didn't really want in the first place.  What gives me more satisfaction....  hmmm

T

Ah, how do you know you don't like them, T? Okie
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Post by: eatbrie on April 09, 2020, 11:15:50 PM
Multiple reasons.  Sometimes they went after me on an auction and made me lose it hahaha so I make them pay by increasing their future auctions.  All in good fun.  That's the problem with names.  You know who your opponent is.

T
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Post by: kovacs01 on April 10, 2020, 03:17:27 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on April 09, 2020, 11:15:50 PM
All in good fun. 

douchebaggery is ever a fun activity.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on April 10, 2020, 10:20:09 AM
Quote from: kovacs01 on April 10, 2020, 03:17:27 AM
douchebaggery is ever a fun activity.

The best!

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on June 09, 2020, 06:38:17 PM
I was just checking Bruce's auction today, and there are a few items I like, but they are all signed.  Since I do not believe signatures to be authentic, I was wondering if there is a way to remove ink from posters without painting over it.

T
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Post by: redman on June 10, 2020, 11:56:55 AM
times are indeed a changin' in the USA when EMP is not censoring or maybe black boxer is on his/her hols ???
(https://funkyimg.com/i/35zut.jpg)
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Post by: Simes on June 12, 2020, 06:00:05 AM
That is hilarious!
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on June 25, 2020, 09:47:27 PM
Is that Potokar ?

F him  devil 2
Title: Anyone purchasing Emovie Bulk lots today?
Post by: Crazy Vick on June 28, 2020, 10:09:57 AM
 Would like a poster or 2... please lmk if you got one  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on June 28, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
Which posters are you looking for, Vic?
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 28, 2020, 02:49:54 PM
Theres at least one poster (includine Valerie) in most of the lots I'd buy

Should anyone get a LOT let me know which one you got and I'll make you an offer on a poster or two so you can recoup some of your cash!
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Post by: descposter on June 28, 2020, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: redman on June 10, 2020, 11:56:55 AM
times are indeed a changin' in the USA when EMP is not censoring or maybe black boxer is on his/her hols ???
(https://funkyimg.com/i/35zut.jpg)

DJJeffreyLA is NOT Potokar. Did that guy actually collect or buy anything?
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on June 28, 2020, 03:31:54 PM
i should say i'm interested in the folded one sheet lots here are some examples:

http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/giant_size.php?lot=4x0155&image=IMG_0005_CS07862_B.jpg

http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/giant_size.php?lot=4x0170&image=IMG_0056_CS07777_B.jpg
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on June 28, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: descposter on June 28, 2020, 03:31:48 PM
DJJeffreyLA is NOT Potokar. Did that guy actually collect or buy anything?

This is a question many people have asked me over the years, and I never got an answer.  I knew he never bought from Bruce, since Bruce couldn't stand him and vice versa.  He posted a couple of things over the years, but really, I don't think he was a collector.  First mistake.

T
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Post by: 50s on June 28, 2020, 05:02:03 PM
I recall seeing around 15 or 20 purchases. I remember because they would each strike me as they were, in my eyes, not too appealing, but each person has their taste and budget, so good on them.

There was one new forum member who was keen about posters but turned out all he collected was poster images (.jpg's) collected from the interwebs. Thus you can have a good interest in posters without having to buy (or even show to the public) much.
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Post by: eatbrie on June 28, 2020, 05:32:47 PM
Quote from: 50s on June 28, 2020, 05:02:03 PM
I recall seeing around 15 or 20 purchases. I remember because they would each strike me as they were, in my eyes, not too appealing, but each person has their taste and budget, so good on them.

Hahaha I was trying to say something like that, and now I can :)  He really had shitty taste :)  Thanks for opening this can of worms.

T
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Post by: 50s on June 28, 2020, 06:08:24 PM
Jeff did though post a lot of poster images of very expensive and rare posters so he did have an eye for good poster art
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: timelessmoviemagic on June 29, 2020, 06:35:56 AM

Jeff pipped me on a Rings on her Fingers stone litho one sheet a few years back.

He used to buy sporadically. I believe he still has this poster.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Charlie on June 29, 2020, 02:14:42 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on June 28, 2020, 03:57:29 PM
This is a question many people have asked me over the years, and I never got an answer.  I knew he never bought from Bruce, since Bruce couldn't stand him and vice versa.  He posted a couple of things over the years, but really, I don't think he was a collector.  First mistake.

T

I was asking him that too for years - as nice as I could.

Quote from: Charlie on March 24, 2013, 10:58:27 PM
Just curious Jeff,  do you actually own any posters?  I 've yet to see you post in latest acquisitions or my collection threads. Serious here not just being an ass...
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Post by: eatbrie on June 29, 2020, 03:09:07 PM
Hahaha!!!

Retrospectively, I guess it was really stupid to make a moderator out of someone who doesn't even collect.  Live and learn, as they say,

T
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on July 08, 2020, 04:14:04 AM
Just want to point out a great result from Emovie as they seem to get a few negative price comparisons against Heritage on here.

Last night they sold a Leave Her to Heaven US 1sh for $3400!!

That's a mad result but one the consignor will be very happy about.

Heritage's last one sold for $2702 inc BP (15%) so final selling price just under $2300. (3 others in the past 6 sales, all in the last 2 years sold for less than $1400inc BP)




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Post by: Undead on July 08, 2020, 08:35:58 AM
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. Need that to happen to me on the occasions I send something off.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: redman on July 08, 2020, 04:24:50 PM
HA will have to change the description of their Bambi quad in its sig auction - it's R57
i only know this because EMP currently has one for sale. HA one is in better nick though ;D
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: timelessmoviemagic on July 09, 2020, 09:49:25 AM
That's not right.

Bruce's one has the Plus Sammy the Way Out Seal.

Heritage's one doesn't and that's why that one is a '42 release.
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Post by: redman on July 09, 2020, 11:08:19 AM
^  ???
you haven't read EMPs description have you?
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on July 10, 2020, 01:42:34 AM
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5757315

For a few dollars more ita 2sh (1st issue)

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5767070

Dirty Harry ita 2sh (1st)
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Post by: Hicks77 on July 10, 2020, 03:51:22 AM
So then Heritage's Bambi quad is actually the same as emovie's 1957R Bambi quad but emovie's was butchered to add the "Sammy the Seal" advertisement....but Heritage is advertising theirs as a 1943 release.... did I get that right?
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Post by: redman on July 10, 2020, 04:33:37 AM
^looks that way - no mention of RKO on HA quad. also no young Bambi which would have been stupid to leave off a first release poster? (i have a 4 page 1942 english trade advert for Bambi which has nicer art than that poster)
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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: redman on July 08, 2020, 04:24:50 PM
HA will have to change the description of their Bambi quad in its sig auction - it's R57
i only know this because EMP currently has one for sale. HA one is in better nick though ;D

I'm pretty sure HA and EMP both have first issue Bambi quads.
The Stafford number number in the lower right is 6217A, the A is only used on pre-1950 quads, and I'm sure the 6217 means it's early 40s.

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Post by: redman on July 10, 2020, 11:17:25 AM
^my trade advert says 'distributed by rko radio pictures ltd'. wouldn't an original quad say this too?
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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: redman on July 10, 2020, 11:17:25 AM
^my trade advert says 'distributed by rko radio pictures ltd'. wouldn't an original quad say this too?

Not in this particular case, the Stafford numbers don't lie.

This is also pictured in the Branaghan book on page 66 and credited as being 1942. I guess one could always double check with either him or Edwards.
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Post by: redman on July 10, 2020, 12:09:27 PM
^so you don't agree with what EMP wrote?
i am still not convinced as i don't see how the art on a trade ad can be better than the final poster
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: redman on July 10, 2020, 12:09:27 PM
^so you don't agree with what EMP wrote?

Not when he's incorrect, no.

And just verified with Greg Edwards that it is indeed a 1942 original.

To review,
the author of The International Film Poster says original
the author of British Film Posters and the professor of  British Cinema at De Montfort University labeled it as original.
The "A" suffix automatically disqualifies it from being a post-1950 quad, and the 6217 Stafford code lines up with 1942.

That's good enough for me.
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Post by: redman on July 10, 2020, 12:32:40 PM
ok
wonder if emp will change its listing or if its price has shot up ;D
this is my trade ad - only £5 and that was less than 2 years ago
(https://funkyimg.com/i/36cwf.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: redman on July 10, 2020, 12:32:40 PM
ok
wonder if emp will change its listing

Only when they get corrected by someone who isn't me  laugh1

Love your trade ad, it's very pretty.
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Post by: Tob on July 10, 2020, 01:53:26 PM
The art on that trade ad is lovely.
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 10, 2020, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 12:20:51 PM
And just verified with Greg Edwards that it is indeed a 1942 original.

I love it when a supposed expert doesn't know what they have.

This mis-identification may be worse than selling a 1949R Casablanca international one sheet as a 1960s film festival reprint
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Post by: descposter on July 10, 2020, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 11:52:41 AM
Not in this particular case, the Stafford numbers don't lie.

This is also pictured in the Branaghan book on page 66 and credited as being 1942. I guess one could always double check with either him or Edwards.

This is very humorous. Like many here, we too thought the printer info in the bottom right made it surely an original.

But just to be 100% certain, we DID double check with Sim Branaghan (something none of you did), and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!

So we listed it that way because the best expert we know, Sim Branaghan, told us the information. If he decides he is wrong, we will gladly change it back.

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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: descposter on July 10, 2020, 04:44:42 PM
This is very humorous. Like many here, we too thought the printer info in the bottom right made it surely an original.
But just to be 100% certain, we DID double check with Sim Branaghan (something none of you did), and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!
So we listed it that way because the best expert we know, Sim Branaghan, told us the information. If he decides he is wrong, we will gladly change it back.

Cool - so now we have the war of the experts.
Sim Branaghan - R1957
Greg Edwards - Original

I like both of these guys and trust their opinion immensely, so no idea anymore.
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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: descposter on July 10, 2020, 04:44:42 PM
... and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!

If the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information, does that mean the original did indeed have Walt Disney Productions info and not RKO?
Things that make you go hmmm...
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Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 10, 2020, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 05:17:28 PM
If the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information, does that mean the original did indeed have Walt Disney Productions info and not RKO?
Things that make you go hmmm...

hmmmmm.. on facebook there would be a like button for me to click

 Likey.jpg
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Post by: crowzilla on July 10, 2020, 06:48:48 PM
I went to look on the internet for the other example of the quad Bruce referenced and did come across this listing from a UK seller.
Anyone know him?
https://www.originalposter.co.uk/fulldetails.asp?rid=23498

It's interesting to note that he says only the first release mentions "multiplane technicolor" (also mentioned on redman's flyer), which would match up with the hype on the EMP and HA copies.
He also mentions the type of "U" symbol used for the BBFC rating, and I looked at the one used on Cinderella (1950) and some other 50s posters, and it is definitely different from those.

The mystery deepens.
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Post by: paul waines on July 11, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
Just seen this, quite amusing..

I've always had this Quad down as late 40's, but no way is this a first release Quad. To start off theres too many about for a war years poster,  and in relatively good nick too. I've seen at least 5 or more..

The first release would most definitely have had RKO as Distributor. These two, or even 3 if you count the link Sean posted to Steves site, are all the same release, and yes the one Bruce is selling has had a cut and paste job to make the double bill, but it's the same poster as the others.

The coin Cert was slowly phased out from around 1950 to coincide with the 1951 change in the UK certification, but theres still examples going to up to 1958, so not to good a guide.
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Post by: crowzilla on July 11, 2020, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 11, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
but no way is this a first release Quad. To start off theres too many about for a war years poster,  and in relatively good nick too. I've seen at least 5 or more..

The first release would most definitely have had RKO as Distributor. These two, or even 3 if you count the link Sean posted to Steves site, are all the same release, and yes the one Bruce is selling has had a cut and paste job to make the double bill, but it's the same poster as the others.

I stopped using the "how many are known to exist" metric for deciding if something is original or not a long time ago.  If I still used it, I would assume Peeping Tom quads were all printed last week.

And yes, it seems like RKO should be listed as the distributor - unless the printer was lazy of course. Then all bets are off.
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Post by: paul waines on July 11, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
No, but on British stuff from that time, it helps, but is by no means a given.

The printers won't have been lazy, as they removed the RKO logo, and put Disney onto it. 6000 + numbers on Staffords were very late 40's, they changed in 1950, and started again, I have an On the Town, released in 1950 with a number 17 on it.  Staffords had several letters on their numbers, C for Columbia, BL for British Lion, not sure what the A was for.. and these again had different numbers.

Anyway, from what I know, it's a late 40's rerelease, but what do I know, I haven't wrote a book, just some graffiti on the toilet wall... ;-)
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Post by: crowzilla on July 11, 2020, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 11, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
but what do I know, I haven't wrote a book, just some graffiti on the toilet wall... ;-)

You have a toilet wall?
Luxury...
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Post by: paul waines on July 11, 2020, 06:00:04 PM
 laugh1
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Post by: redman on July 13, 2020, 07:48:59 AM
my question re Bambi quad is if that one is a first release then where are the quads for 1948 and 1957 rereleases?

found another first release trade ad - this one doesn't use 'multiplane'
(https://funkyimg.com/i/36fn5.jpg)

this trade ad for 1948 rerelease still correctly credits RKO
(https://funkyimg.com/i/36fn4.jpg)

usa pressbook
(https://funkyimg.com/i/36foP.jpg)

so it looks like first release uk quad is lost/unseen, they used art from usa pressbook for 1948 and updated that for 1957 which is what EMP is saying

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Post by: paul waines on July 13, 2020, 12:44:28 PM
Did you not read my reply, none of them is first release.
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Post by: redman on July 13, 2020, 01:05:11 PM
HA disagrees with you thumbup you also said they were all from 1948 which i wouldn't bet on
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Post by: paul waines on July 13, 2020, 01:24:23 PM
They are Yanks, what do you expect...  ;)

Late 40's I said, and none of those 3 are first release.
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Post by: descposter on July 16, 2020, 07:16:27 AM
Quote from: redman on July 13, 2020, 07:48:59 AM
usa pressbook
(https://funkyimg.com/i/36foP.jpg)

so it looks like first release uk quad is lost/unseen, they used art from usa pressbook for 1948 and updated that for 1957 which is what EMP is saying

Heritage still is listing their re-release as original

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/animation/bambi-walt-disney-productions-1942-folded-fine-very-fine-british-quad-30-x-40-/a/7223-86048.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Sim and Paul (the two best experts we know) are both certain it is a re-release.
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Post by: crowzilla on July 16, 2020, 09:50:55 AM
Quote from: descposter on July 16, 2020, 07:16:27 AM
Heritage still is listing their re-release as original
Sim and Paul (the two best experts we know) are both certain it is a re-release.

I guess they believe Greg Edwards, who is also one of the best experts we know, that it is an original.

Are there any other examples of "lazy" Stafford printings from the 50s where they use 1940s print numbers and the "A" code which is unseen post-1950?
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Post by: paul waines on July 16, 2020, 02:15:33 PM
Just checking into this some more, my main chew has been finding out what the A means. the number with the A does seem like a 1942 number code, but the fact the RKO Distribution is missing, means it's not from 42.

At this moment I'm inclined to go with Sim, on a late 50's RR, and the Lazy printer.  No I haven't come across any others this has happened too, but I'm still looking into it..

Greg is a master with the numbers, but I think he's been put off with this "lazy printer" thing..
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Post by: crowzilla on July 16, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 16, 2020, 02:15:33 PM
Just checking into this some more, my main chew has been finding out what the A means. the number with the A does seem like a 1942 number code, but the fact the RKO Distribution is missing, means it's not from 42.

What if the printer was also lazy in 42? Or was laziness not a thing until the 50s?

I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's fun to see when two respected experts disagree.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on July 16, 2020, 04:05:42 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 13, 2020, 01:24:23 PM
They are Yanks, what do you expect...  ;)

Late 40's I said, and none of those 3 are first release.

Wed all be speaking german in Europe now if not for US in ww2
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Post by: paul waines on July 16, 2020, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 16, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
What if the printer was also lazy in 42? Or was laziness not a thing until the 50s?

I don't have a dog in the fight, but it's fun to see when two respected experts disagree.

Me neither. I just love to get to the bottom of these kind of things. Thought I had a handle on these numbers, but that A certainly has proved tricky.

Would love to see the kind of paper they are on, the one Steve is selling I missed bidding on, totally forgot the auction, and it only went for £48...  And everyone says there's no bargains on Ebay anymore.
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Post by: redman on July 16, 2020, 06:41:29 PM
can't the numbers not being right be explained by human error/an apprentice/on the ale at dinnertime etc whilst the rko/disney distribution 'error' means only one thing - the printer would have had to be a time-traveller to do that in 1942 ???
god knows why HA haven't pulled it
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Post by: crowzilla on July 16, 2020, 10:15:35 PM
Quote from: redman on July 16, 2020, 06:41:29 PM
can't the numbers not being right be explained by human error/an apprentice/on the ale at dinnertime etc whilst the rko/disney distribution 'error' means only one thing - the printer would have had to be a time-traveller to do that in 1942 ???

Couldn't it also mean a human error in 1942?
"Hey Nigel, whose movie is this?"
"Walt Disney"
"Right, well then we need to...bloody hell do you hear those air sirens? Just start the printer and let's get out of here-"

You guys must really really laugh at that poor crook dealer Steve. I mean, we're yanks what do we know?
But an actual UK dealer calling it first issue and misleading customers? And with a detailed explanation to really treat his customers like chumps selling them a solid gold watch for a dollar. For shame.

And shame on Sim for identifying every other re-release in his book but this one (if it actually is one)
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Post by: redman on July 17, 2020, 11:35:43 AM
^ thats a pretty petulant post from somebody who says -
Quote from: crowzilla on July 16, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
I don't have a dog in the fight

steve is from the link you previously posted?
i can't see anybody laughing at him. it's obvious from his description that he is guessing because he is unaware the film was rereleased in 1948
what is HA's excuse? show us the 1948 and 1957 quads and then you can say they have got a 1942 poster
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Post by: paul waines on July 17, 2020, 11:49:07 AM
Sean, the numbers work out correct for 1942, so can't have been that guy's war time apprentice. As I said the A makes it a correct date code for 1942.  I have one with the number 8888A  and it's from 1948. so matches perfectly.

What makes it not from 42 is the distributor, which should be RKO.

At the moment I have to go with Sims answer lazy printer in 57. Not typical, but does explain it...

Steve is a nice fellow, but relatively new to the game, been at it since maybe 2000, so can be forgiven for just copying whats wrote on HA or elsewhere on the web.

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Post by: crowzilla on July 17, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
Quote from: redman on July 17, 2020, 11:35:43 AM
show us the 1948 and 1957 quads and then you can say they have got a 1942 poster

I can play this circular game, show me the 42 and 48 Quads and then you can say it's 57.

Ok, Steve is new. What is Douglas' excuse for calling it original?

And Paul, I think you missed my point, it was the wartime apprentice who set the type for WDP, and was about to be corrected to RKO when the air raid sirens began.
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Post by: redman on July 17, 2020, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 17, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
I can play this circular game, show me the 42 and 48 Quads and then you can say it's 57.

i can only show a 1957 quad so i can't play your game
i think you can only show a 1942? lots of 1942s and nothing else? not even 1957? makes total sense!

Quote from: crowzilla on July 17, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
What is Douglas' excuse for calling it original?

feck knows. consignor?
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Post by: crowzilla on July 17, 2020, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: redman on July 17, 2020, 03:09:39 PM
i can only show a 1957 quad so i can't play your game
i think you can only show a 1942? lots of 1942s and nothing else? not even 1957? makes total sense!

feck knows. consignor?

Show me an R38 Frankenstein 1-sheet. Why are there so many 1931s around and no 38s?
How come I don't know what a re-release Jekyll & Hyde one-sheet looks like, but there are a few "original" release ones?
Why are there more Peeping Tom quads than seemingly there are all other 1960 quads combined?
Who knows the reason some things get put aside and some don't.

I've had lots of original release Rodan quads over the years, but I'm still looking for a copy of the re-release one.
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Post by: paul waines on July 17, 2020, 05:25:55 PM
Theres quite a lot of Peeping Tom Quads in good condition as at the time a lot of local authorities banned the film, so lots of the posters were never used.

Re-releases were often only shown on Indie circuits, and never had the release of the initial run, so not as many posters needed, or printed.
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Post by: crowzilla on July 17, 2020, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 17, 2020, 05:25:55 PM
Re-releases were often only shown on Indie circuits, and never had the release of the initial run, so not as many posters needed, or printed.

So what I'm hearing is that re-releases are much rarer than first issue ones, which would explain why we've never seen 48 and 57 Bambi quads...
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Post by: paul waines on July 18, 2020, 03:14:47 AM
Nothing is ever set in stone, but on the whole yes, but factor in the war years here. Very little UK paper has survived pre-1950..
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Post by: crowzilla on July 18, 2020, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: paul waines on July 18, 2020, 03:14:47 AM
Nothing is ever set in stone, but on the whole yes, but factor in the war years here. Very little UK paper has survived pre-1950..

Except for some Bambi quads that were set aside, and forgotten about  because of a printing mistake  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: paul waines on July 18, 2020, 06:53:58 PM
 laugh1
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Post by: paul waines on July 20, 2020, 01:20:09 PM
As can be seen here on this UK FOH still, the distributor is RKO.  And I'm sure this is from the 48 RR.


(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/110734993_10217562628718216_8340863459825340800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=FRyUscCkGCUAX_FzQXk&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=f1bd6490970739ce5aab7fc88d24a6be&oe=5F3A83E4)
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Post by: crowzilla on July 20, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
As can be seen here on this UK FOH still, the distributor is RKO.  And I'm sure this is from the 57 release.
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Post by: crowzilla on July 20, 2020, 04:57:53 PM
As can be seen here on this lobby card, the distributor is Liberty Pictures.  And I'm sure this is from the original release.
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Post by: paul waines on July 21, 2020, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 20, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
As can be seen here on this UK FOH still, the distributor is RKO.  And I'm sure this is from the 57 release.


Do yo have the set of these, Sean?  I only have a couple, can you post them..
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Post by: timelessmoviemagic on July 21, 2020, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on July 20, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
As can be seen here on this UK FOH still, the distributor is RKO.  And I'm sure this is from the 57 release.

Sean,

 I always thought this was released in '58 in the UK?

Marc
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Post by: crowzilla on July 21, 2020, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: timelessmoviemagic on July 21, 2020, 04:57:02 PM
I always thought this was released in '58 in the UK?

Yes, February 58, was just having fun with the totally un-related Bambi post.
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Post by: movieposterstudio on July 23, 2020, 11:14:13 AM
Just to add to the discussion on the Bambi quad, here's a photo of the earlier RKO (re-)release with same design. It was on moviepostermem.com at one time.

(http://movieposterstudio.com/tmp1/Bambi_GBQ_RKOreleaseAPF.jpg)

Worth bearing in mind that the codes on Stafford posters aren't like NSS numbers (albeit some contain year info). I see them as litho numbers. A good starting point for working out dates, but not so reliable if the same plate is used as the basis for more than one release, e.g. Third Man UK one sheet.
Anyway, as others have said already, for me the clincher is that the distributor for any 1940s release of this film should be RKO.

Regards,
Paul
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Post by: crowzilla on July 23, 2020, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: movieposterstudio on July 23, 2020, 11:14:13 AM
Just to add to the discussion on the Bambi quad, here's a photo of the earlier RKO (re-)release with same design. It was on moviepostermem.com at one time.

How do we know that one isn't the 42 original?
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Post by: redman on July 23, 2020, 05:22:23 PM
^because HA are currently selling the 42 original ???
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Post by: crowzilla on July 23, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
Quote from: redman on July 23, 2020, 05:22:23 PM
^because HA are currently selling the 42 original ???

correct sir.

But since the other is being presented as a R48, I am asking what is the difference between it and your mythical 42?
Since the print codes apparently have nothing to do with the date of the poster and no one has seen the 42, why can't that one be a 42?
Is there fine print at the bottom that says "this is a re-release, please do not confuse this poster with the original release from WDP, RKO, or any other distributor"?

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Post by: movieposterstudio on July 24, 2020, 07:13:47 AM
Sean, personally I can't say with absolute certainty that RKO one I posted isn't first release, which is why I put "re-" in brackets. I don't have it in front of me. I just wanted to show there is an earlier RKO version. Disney only started using their own distribution company, and stopped using RKO, in the 1950s. That leads me to believe the Heritage one is 1950s. Just to avoid any confusion I'm Paul Gerrard not Paul Waines, in case people start mixing up our replies!
BTW I'm not saying Stafford print codes don't help with the date of the poster. They often do, but I don't think you should rely on them alone when there are different releases of a poster using the same design.

Regards,
Paul
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Post by: paul waines on July 24, 2020, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: movieposterstudio on July 24, 2020, 07:13:47 AM
Sean, personally I can't say with absolute certainty that RKO one I posted isn't first release, which is why I put "re-" in brackets. I don't have it in front of me. I just wanted to show there is an earlier RKO version. Disney only started using their own distribution company, and stopped using RKO, in the 1950s. That leads me to believe the Heritage one is 1950s. Just to avoid any confusion I'm Paul Gerrard not Paul Waines, in case people start mixing up our replies!
BTW I'm not saying Stafford print codes don't help with the date of the poster. They often do, but I don't think you should rely on them alone when there are different releases of a poster using the same design.

Regards,
Paul

 Likey.jpg
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Post by: crowzilla on July 24, 2020, 12:14:56 PM
Quote from: movieposterstudio on July 24, 2020, 07:13:47 AM
Sean, personally I can't say with absolute certainty that RKO one I posted isn't first release, which is why I put "re-" in brackets. I don't have it in front of me. I just wanted to show there is an earlier RKO version. Disney only started using their own distribution company, and stopped using RKO, in the 1950s.

Yes, I totally get that. Which is why I suggested that sometimes mistakes are made, like the "Liberty Pictures" lobby card of the Raven I posted, or the scenario where the new guy lettered in WDP, and they were about to change it until the air raid sirens started and they decided to let it go. ;)
But certainly the one you pictured seems like a good candidate for original release.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
Just finished checking HA Sig auction.  Some really cool stuff there. 

Unfortunately for me, I don't think I'll be buying anything because almost everything is linenbacked.  I think it's a first in almost 10 years!  Why do people have to linenback everything???

Anyone with a big shopping list?

T
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 24, 2020, 07:03:31 PM
Same for me T, I think I'm also going to pass on this HA Signature auction because all the paper I'm interested in is linenbacked.  Thank God I already have my folded copies of Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet, as non-linenbacked examples of those 2 titles seem to be getting rare.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2020, 07:57:23 PM
My linen copy of Forbidden Planet is mint.  No restoration that I can see, so I'm good with that.  But a FN- 5.5 for a LB poster, that's terrible.  Same with Earth.  FN+ 6.5.  What's up with that?  I'll wait for a folded copy or a Mint Linen.

T
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Post by: 50s on July 24, 2020, 08:15:12 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 24, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
Why do people have to linenback everything???

- Because some people think it looks better flat. And people like to show off their poster to others who might view and think yuck the folds make your poster look crap.
- Plus if the printers thought posters looked better with folds, modern posters would have the fold lines printed into the rolled posters!
- The whole other world of advertising posters, they are nearly all linen backed and I guess because they weren't issued folded, it must be people just liking the folds in the movie poster world.
- If you like the history and originality of folded posters, they are all (like pre 1980's) likely to progress with age having the brown foxing color progress substantially from all the folds lines making the poster colors ruined (and the poster brittle) and to avoid that, the poster can be linen-backed and de-acidified which over time will make those posters look more original than the once original folded poster that turned heavily foxed, cracked, dinged up, and which might end up resprayed ruining it more!!! Preservation, may be the lesser of two evils!

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Post by: oldposterho on July 28, 2020, 11:22:44 AM
I just skimmed the results of the HA auction and was surprised at the strength of the prices.  Granted, I'm not really keeping up with things but I would have the thought the pandemic might have slowed things down. 

Apparently not.
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 29, 2020, 12:44:11 AM
I have also noticed that the pandemic hasn't had any negative impact on the last 2 Signature auctions at HA, which surprised me.  It's the same thing at the big auction houses Christie's and Sotheby's, even the Old Masters sales have been unexpectedly robust.  I guess during times of uncertainty, collectibles and fine art are considered safe investments.
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Post by: eatbrie on August 02, 2020, 10:56:15 PM
Wow!!!  Tried to bid on some stuff on HA but everything is way above what I'm willing to pay.  Way above.  Covid or not Covid, thia hobby of ours is going strong.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on November 08, 2020, 04:09:07 PM
I already know what T's assessment of this item is, but I would love to hear from some other autograph experts.
This Karloff signature is dated 1969, Karloff died on 2 February 1969 and it is known that he spent the entirety of his last month in the hospital and that he rarely dated any signatures. If I was a gambling man, I would put my money on it not being real.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kRW9Zm4N/boris.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRW9Zm4N)
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Post by: DinDinTahm on November 08, 2020, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 08, 2020, 04:09:07 PM
I already know what T's assessment of this item is, but I would love to hear from some other autograph experts.
This Karloff signature is dated 1969, Karloff died on 2 February 1969 and it is known that he spent the entirety of his last month in the hospital and that he rarely dated any signatures. If I was a gambling man, I would put my money on it not being real.

(https://i.postimg.cc/kRW9Zm4N/boris.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kRW9Zm4N)

https://youtu.be/224fiqe5PyU


That's exactly why I think it could be real. Wouldn't a forger likely choose another year - or omit one entirely to circumvent the uncertainties that would arise and that you highlight?
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Post by: marklawd on November 09, 2020, 06:38:33 AM
Quote from: DinDinTahm on November 08, 2020, 11:17:56 PM
Wouldn't a forger likely choose another year - or omit one entirely to circumvent the uncertainties that would arise and that you highlight?

That makes some sense. Also, word would soon get round a hospital about a celebrity patient and I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for a nurse or someone similar to get something signed, assuming the patient was not so unwell.

Mark
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Post by: DinDinTahm on November 09, 2020, 07:01:04 AM
Quote from: marklawd on November 09, 2020, 06:38:33 AM
That makes some sense. Also, word would soon get round a hospital about a celebrity patient and I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for a nurse or someone similar to get something signed, assuming the patient was not so unwell.

Mark

https://youtu.be/IZ0JM5zdGTM


He might have even signed it on New Year's Day - hence the reasoning behind and importance of adding the year. fmitbuib
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Post by: crowzilla on November 09, 2020, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: DinDinTahm on November 08, 2020, 11:17:56 PM
That's exactly why I think it could be real. Wouldn't a forger likely choose another year - or omit one entirely to circumvent the uncertainties that would arise and that you highlight?

Or to charge even more as one of his last signatures ever.
If I was a forger, I would be certain to personalize all signatures, since most sheep always assume those must be the real ones as forgers wouldn't personalize them.

Talked to a couple of major Karloff collectors yesterday who said they would not touch it, good enough for me.
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Post by: paul waines on November 09, 2020, 04:51:35 PM
I have seen a few genuine Karloff Signatures that were dated. This is one I wouldn't touch either, too much wrong with it. Would love to date the still, wonder if there's a pic of the back.. ?
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Post by: DinDinTahm on November 09, 2020, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on November 09, 2020, 11:44:04 AM
Or to charge even more as one of his last signatures ever.
If I was a forger, I would be certain to personalize all signatures, since most sheep always assume those must be the real ones as forgers wouldn't personalize them.

Talked to a couple of major Karloff collectors yesterday who said they would not touch it, good enough for me.

https://youtu.be/TDG-d_W9xBs


Personalizing is the way to go. I only own one signature and it's personalized: "Dear Tahmmie, All the best, Eddie Cantor." It's on a cloth napkin. I never found out who Tahmmie was but as it's undated it could theoretically have been for me. That's what I tell the boys. I'm very lucky.

As for the Karloff siggie, perhaps he could have slurred his handwriting, added some drool stains; may be instead of a snipe, the daily hospital chart could have been glued to the back?

smcuicaoyatiwlmcoybhtiwpmdiya
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Post by: Simes on November 10, 2020, 11:16:43 AM
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/james-bond-film-posters

The last three Daniel Craig Bond movies, the quads currently at ~£1000.  Each.

Heaven forbid.

Bless the little eBay sellers who look at that and price their BINs accordingly.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 10, 2020, 11:49:46 AM
This is absurd.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on November 10, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Simes on November 10, 2020, 11:16:43 AM
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2020/james-bond-film-posters
The last three Daniel Craig Bond movies, the quads currently at ~£1000.  Each.
Heaven forbid.

I think the FRWL still at £1300 is my favorite "value" in the auction so far (or perhaps the Goldfinger at £1800)

Even more telling though are some of these bids that are still reserve not met. If I had a sucker investor on the line willing to pay some of those bids, I wouldn't risk it by saying he didn't meet the reserve which is set at 2-3x FMV.
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Post by: DekeThornton on November 11, 2020, 01:40:08 AM
Ha, nobody wants the Die Another Day poster.
That was a trash movie.
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Post by: redman on December 03, 2020, 12:38:49 PM
sorry print noob question ;D
is that Jaws print on emp at 3K because it is #2 and its like when beatles white album gets better price with lower number?
just wondering because 525 is a LOT of copies isn't it? can't be that rare
i've enjoyed looking at the prints. shame there are hardly any european titles
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Post by: Tob on December 03, 2020, 07:05:03 PM
Quote from: redman on December 03, 2020, 12:38:49 PM
sorry print noob question ;D
is that Jaws print on emp at 3K because it is #2 and its like when beatles white album gets better price with lower number?
just wondering because 525 is a LOT of copies isn't it? can't be that rare
i've enjoyed looking at the prints. shame there are hardly any european titles

Low print numbers might appeal to a small group of collectors, but I don’t think they have a bearing on price. Looking at sales history on expressobeans, I think the last few on eBay have sold around the $4k mark. Although 525 is quite a large run, I think a lot have settled into collections.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 03, 2020, 07:17:55 PM
Tobin, are you the one who posted that insightful comparison study between prints and posters?  For SW?  I liked that.  I think it was you and you should post it here.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on December 03, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
Quote from: redman on December 03, 2020, 12:38:49 PM
i've enjoyed looking at the prints. shame there are hardly any european titles

Not Mondo, but other people do European titles.  Check this Durieux for one of my favorite movies, Wenders' Paris, Texas with Nastassja Kinski, the cinematic love of my life (and my avatar).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50247618583_6f3cc1fab1_c.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50247618613_a1f0d55b9c_c.jpg)

T
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Post by: Tob on December 03, 2020, 08:35:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 03, 2020, 07:17:55 PM
Tobin, are you the one who posted that insightful comparison study between prints and posters?  For SW?  I liked that.  I think it was you and you should post it here.

T

Thanks T, that was me. Just a few jumbled thoughts, I find it quite an interesting topic so rambled on a bit. As you collect both, I’m glad you agreed with some of it.
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Post by: redman on January 13, 2021, 01:45:51 PM
the Poster Gods start their fightback against linen ???
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/sort/4/tag/extra%253Alinen/tag/xtype%253Aone-sheet/15.html
ouchouchouch, hope he/she was insured. there are obviously things much more important than paper but must be terrible finding something like this has happened.
some still look very displayable to me but i'm not mr picky. maybe even more were damaged as well :^(
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Post by: martinc on January 13, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
 A snip:

https://txauction.com/lots/27898

Is this the same one from the Kenneth Schacter case some years back (or was that linen-backed, I can't remember)?
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Post by: crowzilla on January 13, 2021, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: martinc on January 13, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
A snip:
https://txauction.com/lots/27898
Is this the same one from the Kenneth Schacter case some years back (or was that linen-backed, I can't remember)?

Same one, and it's backed.
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Post by: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 05:59:59 PM
Does anyone on here buys bulk items from Bruce?  Just wondering.  I have never done it, and will never do it, because this is not the way I collect.  I like to know each poster's condition and don't want to end up trashing 90% of the posters I got for a few I might keep, let alone pay for shipping.  Have you guys done it?

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 05:59:59 PM
Does anyone on here buys bulk items from Bruce?  Just wondering.  I have never done it, and will never do it, because this is not the way I collect.  I like to know each poster's condition and don't want to end up trashing 90% of the posters I got for a few I might keep, let alone pay for shipping.  Have you guys done it?

T
I have done it a few times. I have bid on some this time as well (But this time I've let myself be outbid on all of them, I think...). I think they are best for the beginning collector--but not you. I have bid several times, going after certain posters, paying more than I wanted to pay, and ending up with many posters I have no use for as well as the one or two I wanted. Besides, those one or two I was after invariably I find elsewhere. The lots are a great idea in one sense- and I applaud Bruce and company for offering them. But for you and even myself (But I don't seem to ever learn) who have been collecting for years, it's probably not the best way to spend the $$$. As far as condition, most are more or less accurately graded. I have had a few things come through with a bit more wear than I thought was warranted for the grade the lot received. But eMovie does have images of ALL of the posters in the lots and you can blow them up and inspect them. But really... I think you'd be better off looking for that one title or however many you see in a lot elsewhere. You can probably find someone reselling them on eBay. (I spent $80-$90 or more recently for a lot to get an obscure poster for a kiddie matinee movie I didn't have, TOM THUMB AND LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. There are now a few on eBay from other lots that contained the same poster.) But do what you think best... CHEERS!
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 08:04:32 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 03, 2020, 07:27:03 PM
Nastassja Kinski, the cinematic love of my life (and my avatar).

Where is that old avatar you had of her a few years back? I thought it was a very enchanting image of her...but i don't recall now what it looked like...
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Post by: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 08:04:32 PM
Where is that old avatar you had of her a few years back? I thought it was a very enchanting image of her...but i don't recall now what it looked like...

Hmm... Wasn't it always this one?  I don't recall to be honest.  This one is from One From the Heart, a movie I personally love.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 06:53:45 PM
I have done it a few times. I have bid on some this time as well (But this time I've let myself be outbid on all of them, I think...). I think they are best for the beginning collector--but not you. I have bid several times, going after certain posters, paying more than I wanted to pay, and ending up with many posters I have no use for as well as the one or two I wanted. Besides, those one or two I was after invariably I find elsewhere. The lots are a great idea in one sense- and I applaud Bruce and company for offering them. But for you and even myself (But I don't seem to ever learn) who have been collecting for years, it's probably not the best way to spend the $$$. As far as condition, most are more or less accurately graded. I have had a few things come through with a bit more wear than I thought was warranted for the grade the lot received. But eMovie does have images of ALL of the posters in the lots and you can blow them up and inspect them. But really... I think you'd be better off looking for that one title or however many you see in a lot elsewhere. You can probably find someone reselling them on eBay. (I spent $80-$90 or more recently for a lot to get an obscure poster for a kiddie matinee movie I didn't have, TOM THUMB AND LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. There are now a few on eBay from other lots that contained the same poster.) But do what you think best... CHEERS!

Thanks for that.  I will never bid on these, because I need more than a picture.  I need to know everything about a poster and I'm not going to go thru 50 posters I don't care about.  Isn't it a way for Bruce to get rid of all the stuff he cannot sell separately? Keep his sellers happy?  You're right, not for us.

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
Found it:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuZ9sCFW0AACLN2.jpg)
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Post by: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 10:34:20 PM
Quote from: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 10:33:07 PM
Found it:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuZ9sCFW0AACLN2.jpg)

YOU'RE GOOD!!!  Yep, same movie.  I don't know why I changed it.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 10:37:25 PM
I changed it back but now it doesnt fit.  I am not computer savvy enough to deal w this.  Oh well...

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on January 19, 2021, 10:39:25 PM
Oh well...   You tried. That is the image you were using when I joined 6 years ago. That's why I remember it.
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Post by: crowzilla on January 20, 2021, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on January 19, 2021, 05:59:59 PM
Does anyone on here buys bulk items from Bruce?  Just wondering.  I have never done it, and will never do it, because this is not the way I collect.  I like to know each poster's condition and don't want to end up trashing 90% of the posters I got for a few I might keep, let alone pay for shipping.  Have you guys done it?

Like a bunch of the stuff they sell, those are mainly dealer lots. You will see the same names as buyers repeatedly.
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Post by: eatbrie on January 20, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Right!  I didn’t think of that.  Makes sense.

T
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Post by: DekeThornton on January 20, 2021, 06:01:00 PM
I’ve bought bulk lots.

In fact I recently bought a bulk lot because it had a Mexican poster I wanted I had never seen for sale before.

Of course when you’re collecting Mexican posters from the ‘40s and ‘50s you can’t be picky about condition or you wouldn’t have a collection at all!
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Post by: rumble on January 21, 2021, 11:23:11 PM
I bought bulk lots a few times when I was an active collector. Each time I bought them for 1 or 2 posters I wanted and then sold a couple of the better ones basically breaking even. Nowadays that is way too much work though!  ;D
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Post by: redman on February 06, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
(https://funkyimg.com/i/3aAPE.jpg)
^has to be the first time judi dench has been called sexy ???
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Post by: okiehawker on February 14, 2021, 01:22:11 AM
I don't know, Redman.  There are several things about Dame Judi that make her sexy to me: lively twinkle in her eye; slight smile and a quick head turn; master of her craft; slight overbite; certain scenes in As Time Goes By; and, wishing I had seen her do Shakespeare in the 1960s.  Okie

Quote from: redman on February 06, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
(https://funkyimg.com/i/3aAPE.jpg)
^has to be the first time judi dench has been called sexy ???
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Post by: ealingmovieposters on February 14, 2021, 02:27:04 PM
When it comes to sexy images, it is all a matter of taste.
Sadly I am drawn like a 'Moth to a flame' to the more typical 'femme fatale'.


(https://i.postimg.cc/8sn1C5Bf/Evangelina-Elizondo.png) (https://postimg.cc/8sn1C5Bf)
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Post by: redman on February 14, 2021, 05:49:54 PM
^face like thunder. no thanks! what is the poster?

oh okie okie okie
thanks for the laughs
i couldn't imagine much worse things than a visit to see judy doing bill shakespeare

i used to think it weird how she was not in any 6ts/7ts films of note. the reason is she was a plug and she was up against vanessa redgrave, julie christie, maggie smith etc

i am amazed americans watch
as time goes by
truly one of BBCs worst
oh boy
but i did like geoffry palmer
who passed away not long ago

and it seems that americans
obsession with teeth
is still correct ;D
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Post by: redman on February 14, 2021, 06:04:04 PM
^apologies to j.dench for spelling her name wrong
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Post by: okiehawker on February 19, 2021, 11:50:58 PM
You can't convince me otherwise, Redman.  I still think Dame Judi is the cats meow!  Okie
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Post by: eatbrie on March 26, 2021, 10:42:41 PM
I finally checked HA Sig auction listings for tomorrow.  Lots of good stuff there, but very little for me since 95% is linenbacked.  I already own 57 of the pieces listed and I have 7 on my list.  It's always fun to see what your stuff sells for. 

Not sure if I'll be able to bid with a lot of kids stuff on my plate, but hopefully my time off will align with the sale time.

Good luck to everyone on here!

T
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Post by: eatbrie on June 08, 2021, 04:32:12 PM
Interesting that Heritage is now getting into the print business.  First Emovie, and now them.  I guess it brings a little more legitimacy to the whole concept.  I should have bought more when I had a chance.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on July 21, 2021, 10:52:58 PM
Just checked HA's offering.  I already own 92 of their posters and I don't have much to buy, which makes my wallet happy (and me a little sad).   Although I'm on vacation with very little service and my wife would shoot me if I was on my phone during family time.  So I guess I'm all good.  Maybe I'll try for a couple.

Anyone else buying?

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 21, 2021, 11:14:18 PM
I have my eye on a few things...and although I may bid on one or two things, I'll probably forget about it or be outbid. HA's signature auctions bring out those with deep pockets and I just cannot compete.
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 21, 2021, 11:54:01 PM
The few titles of interest in HA Signature auction that I don't already own are linenbacked, so I'll probably sit this one out (unless I get a last minute FOMO, lol).
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Post by: okiehawker on July 22, 2021, 12:27:27 AM
Watching about four posters at HA.  We'll see.  I had to look up what FOMO meant, Antoine.  Have no fear, there's always another poster...
Okie
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Post by: Starling on July 22, 2021, 01:42:16 AM
Really wanted that Dangerous one sheet, but it's already out of my range sadly. Have my eye on a few things at Emovie...hope springs eternal!
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Post by: AnthonyFR on July 22, 2021, 03:29:15 AM

A few posters not linebacked interest me (a French one and some SF/horror US). Others are really nice but linenbacked so not for me.

Unfortunately, I don't know if I could participate because I'm going on vacation and may not be home for the reception.
eMovie is convenient in that there is the option 'pay and hold', but does Heritage do it? I have doubts. And if they don't, I'm afraid I won't be able to participate ...

It would be a shame because I was ready for this sale!
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Post by: crowzilla on July 22, 2021, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: AnthonyFR on July 22, 2021, 03:29:15 AM
Unfortunately, I don't know if I could participate because I'm going on vacation and may not be home for the reception.
eMovie is convenient in that there is the option 'pay and hold', but does Heritage do it? I have doubts. And if they don't, I'm afraid I won't be able to participate ...

It would be a shame because I was ready for this sale!

I think Thierry has Heritage hold his wins for months before shipping them out, but if you reach out to them they will be happy to accommodate you.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 22, 2021, 02:13:02 PM
Yeah, but they’ve been calling me lately, emailing me, asking for my stuff to ship, saying that they can’t hold on to stuff forever.  Whatever!!!

 eyeroll

T
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Post by: BruceH on July 22, 2021, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: AnthonyFR on July 22, 2021, 03:29:15 AM

eMovie is convenient in that there is the option 'pay and hold'

Unfortunately, we no longer offer 12 week Pay and Hold. :(
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Post by: BruceH on July 22, 2021, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: BruceH on July 22, 2021, 02:26:04 PM
Unfortunately, we no longer offer 12 week Pay and Hold. :(

That's because, beginning with our July Major Auction, we now offer an inconceivable SIXTEEN WEEK Pay and Hold to ALL bidders!
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 22, 2021, 02:38:30 PM
(https://images.app.goo.gl/85BsDEWgCqAGCwyo6)

That's why you, Bruce, are the B-E-S-T!!!  I have sooooo many things I'm watching on your upcoming Major Auction. (Don't let anyone bid against me!) (I wish...)
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Post by: ealingmovieposters on July 22, 2021, 04:37:57 PM
Yea really like the extended pay and hold, in particular if I buy rolled, which is not that often but they can be batched.
I am also looking forward to the new format 'bulk sales' with no individual lots less than $20. I like to pay and hold the cheaper flat items as well so I can get like 100 in a nicely packaged box - scheduled when my wife is away somewhere  ;)

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Post by: okiehawker on July 23, 2021, 02:28:46 AM
You certainly have great taste, Starling! Dangerous sure is pretty.  Okie
Quote from: Starling on July 22, 2021, 01:42:16 AM
Really wanted that Dangerous one sheet, but it's already out of my range sadly. Have my eye on a few things at Emovie...hope springs eternal!
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Post by: Starling on July 23, 2021, 07:43:09 PM
Thanks! Would look prettier on my wall haha
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Post by: eatbrie on July 23, 2021, 10:42:21 PM
Oh my... those prices are out of control.  Please, poster God, let me by one of three posters I want.  I'm close to not being able to afford it.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2021, 01:17:17 PM
I'm going wine tasting, somewhere with no reception, so I had to bid early.  I just upped something by $4k (from 8k to 12k) and STILL I'm not in the lead.  WTF!!!  I think that might be it for me, can't compete :(

Oh well...

T
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Post by: crowzilla on July 24, 2021, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 23, 2021, 10:42:21 PM
I'm close to not being able to afford it.

 laugh1

you should see if the Comedy Store will let you do your best tight 5
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Post by: eatbrie on July 24, 2021, 10:33:40 PM
So 2 million dollars the first day.  Is that considered good?  Does anyone keep track of these numbers?

T
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Post by: okiehawker on July 25, 2021, 01:27:43 AM
The Argentinean Spanish Dracula sure surprised me. I didn't see that price result coming even close.  Congratulations to your friend, Matias.

P.S. Got one very nice unexpected poster so far at HA today. How are you all doing?  Okie
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Post by: crowzilla on July 25, 2021, 04:43:39 AM
Quote from: eatbrie on July 24, 2021, 10:33:40 PM
So 2 million dollars the first day.  Is that considered good?  Does anyone keep track of these numbers?

I always think a fun gauge is to see if the BP at the Heritage Signature is more than the gross at Emovie's "Major", I think this time Emovie might win.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2021, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 25, 2021, 01:27:43 AM
How are you all doing?  Okie

I won 3 so far, including this one.  Didn't know I had won it until 10pn last night when I finally got some internet.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51334421166_53d60dc2a0_o.jpg)

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 25, 2021, 01:42:05 PM
T, that is a stunner. Wow! Congratulations! I didn't even see that one scrolling through the auction or flipping through the catalog. Bravo! Quite the score.
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2021, 02:52:35 PM
Yeah, it's a fun poster.  It was my backup poster after I lost the one I really wanted.  I've been collecting a few Kubrick posters over the years, so it will fit in nicely.

T
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Post by: 110x75 on July 25, 2021, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 25, 2021, 01:27:43 AM
The Argentinean Spanish Dracula sure surprised me. I didn't see that price result coming even close.  Congratulations to your friend, Matias.

P.S. Got one very nice unexpected poster so far at HA today. How are you all doing?  Okie

I was surprised too. 40k was what I had in mind..
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2021, 08:00:05 PM
So who else got stuff?  Show us your goodies!!!!

T
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 25, 2021, 08:24:56 PM
I'm a big LOSER. I didn't score anything I was after. But that's okay. It leaves me more money (that I don't really have) to spend on Bruce's upcoming auction! Ha!
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 25, 2021, 10:55:14 PM
I was surprised too that the Argentinean Spanish Dracula did this well. I know it's probably the only extant copy, but it's rather crude in its execution.

I only got this country-of-origin, folded example of one of my favorite Bava movies, Black Sunday (1960). 
(https://i.postimg.cc/nsMdRzXV/Black-Sunday-Italian-2-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nsMdRzXV)
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 25, 2021, 11:03:05 PM
Antoine: That is a beauty. Congratulations!!!
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Post by: eatbrie on July 25, 2021, 11:52:07 PM
Great poster Antoine!!!  And folded!!!  Awesome.

We’re on a roll!  Keep em coming :)

T
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Post by: BwanaDik on July 26, 2021, 01:39:34 AM
Quote from: BruceH on July 22, 2021, 02:28:17 PM
That's because, beginning with our July Major Auction, we now offer an inconceivable SIXTEEN WEEK Pay and Hold to ALL bidders!
No words!!!!
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 26, 2021, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: BruceH on July 22, 2021, 02:28:17 PM
That's because, beginning with our July Major Auction, we now offer an inconceivable SIXTEEN WEEK Pay and Hold to ALL bidders!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GCLLpFj_x24/YPm59D_jZlI/AAAAAAAAzbA/q8-NzC51TioP9dSQVFOzXP4iQiJbu9rfQCLcBGAsYHQ/s320/200%2B%25282%2529.gif)

(I wanted to do this earlier when I responded originally...but all I had was my phone and I couldn't figure out how to do it. Ha!)

Thanks again, Bruce

Cheers!
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Post by: Tob on July 26, 2021, 10:41:22 AM
Very nice wins, T and Antoine, congrats  thumbsup.gif
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Post by: eatbrie on July 26, 2021, 01:08:53 PM
One of the things I like to do is mark all the posters I already own, 95 in this last sale, and see what it all adds up to.  It really doesn’t mean anything since 1) I will never sell, 2) prices are extremely inflated and not real and 3) HA pockets 40% of the sale, but it’s nice to know your collection is worth a little something after all.

T
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Post by: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
T:  What a rarity you won, my friend! Do you know any more specifics about this version of the poster?  The HA description was pretty good, though is there more?  Congrats

Antoine: I watched with much interest the Black Sunday you won.  Very nice poster and art!

I'm very, very happy to have bought the Bordertown Italian 4 fogli as this image by Martinati is just stunning. My best to all, Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2/Bordertown-4-fogli-Martinati.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2)
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Post by: Tob on July 26, 2021, 04:13:00 PM
A gorgeous poster! Congrats Okie!
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on July 26, 2021, 04:22:35 PM
Wow! Wow! Wow! Okie, that is a real zowie wower! Hubba hubba! Congratulations
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Post by: Starling on July 26, 2021, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
T:  What a rarity you won, my friend! Do you know any more specifics about this version of the poster?  The HA description was pretty good, though is there more?  Congrats

Antoine: I watched with much interest the Black Sunday you won.  Very nice poster and art!

I'm very, very happy to have bought the Bordertown Italian 4 fogli as this image by Martinati is just stunning. My best to all, Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2/Bordertown-4-fogli-Martinati.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2)

Amazing Okie! As a Davis collector, that poster is top-notch!

Congrats, I think you got quite a deal on that paper :)
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Post by: eatbrie on July 26, 2021, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
T:  What a rarity you won, my friend! Do you know any more specifics about this version of the poster?  The HA description was pretty good, though is there more?  Congrats

Antoine: I watched with much interest the Black Sunday you won.  Very nice poster and art!

I'm very, very happy to have bought the Bordertown Italian 4 fogli as this image by Martinati is just stunning. My best to all, Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2/Bordertown-4-fogli-Martinati.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2)

Thanks Okie.  I don’t think it’s a rarity, but I like the design.  I don’t know much about it, it wasn’t even on my list until I left that morning, but I’m glad I got it.  I would have been more excited if I got the other one, the one I really wanted, but it sold for $20k and I wasn’t ready to spend that.  We’re having a really expensive summer.

Love your poster too.  Very nice!!!  You’ve got a great eye.

T
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Post by: Starling on July 26, 2021, 07:12:49 PM
Okie, I love the image so much I picked up the US title card last year :)


(https://i.postimg.cc/kDwkvC4B/Bordertown-TC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDwkvC4B)
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Post by: Antoine1973 on July 26, 2021, 07:29:53 PM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
T:  What a rarity you won, my friend! Do you know any more specifics about this version of the poster?  The HA description was pretty good, though is there more?  Congrats

Antoine: I watched with much interest the Black Sunday you won.  Very nice poster and art!

I'm very, very happy to have bought the Bordertown Italian 4 fogli as this image by Martinati is just stunning. My best to all, Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2/Bordertown-4-fogli-Martinati.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2)

I join everyone in congratulating you Okie, I've always found this to be one of the great Italian posters from the 1930s.  I was surprised that it didn't lead to more robust bidding during the sale, which is great since you got it for a lot less than the estimate, well done!

Great US title card by the way, Starling!
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Post by: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 10:26:56 PM
Thanks, Tob, Monster, Starling, T, and Antoine!  I was pleasantly surprised and look forward to framing and enjoying it.

Starling: your Bordertown TC is fabulous!  Another great rarity of beauty!

Okie

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Post by: Simes on July 28, 2021, 02:56:39 AM
Quote from: okiehawker on July 26, 2021, 02:43:11 PM
T:  What a rarity you won, my friend! Do you know any more specifics about this version of the poster?  The HA description was pretty good, though is there more?  Congrats

Antoine: I watched with much interest the Black Sunday you won.  Very nice poster and art!

I'm very, very happy to have bought the Bordertown Italian 4 fogli as this image by Martinati is just stunning. My best to all, Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2/Bordertown-4-fogli-Martinati.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkb0dLP2)

Isn't that lovely!
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Post by: redman on July 28, 2021, 02:49:30 PM
yes, looking forward to the poster-in-frame photo Okie
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Post by: okiehawker on July 28, 2021, 06:42:37 PM
Thank Simes!  Redman, I'm hoping Confidential Agent and Bordertown can share a flippable frame.  They're so big!  Okie
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Post by: crowzilla on August 03, 2021, 01:21:31 PM
Anyone have any predictions on the Frankenstein TC tonight?
The single most desirable lobby card there is, in the nicest shape to appear at public auction in at least 20 years.
Even before the explosion in prices this year (hello, $52K Werewolf of London TC, and $45K Van Sloan/Manners Drac card) this is an easy $100K item, and realistically should end somewhere in the $125-150K range.
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Post by: Neo on December 23, 2021, 04:20:58 PM
Some serious bidding from Dave aka Cinemasterpieces

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51770927869_7f8db920c6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mSPxbD)pw1sh (https://flic.kr/p/2mSPxbD)
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Post by: eatbrie on December 23, 2021, 05:40:22 PM
Hahaha I remember a time when he was selling those for $400 and everyone was shaking their heads.  I'm guessing if he buys them for $400 now, he must feel he can sell them for twice that.  Times change.

T
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Post by: Heather_Mason_SH3 on December 23, 2021, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 23, 2021, 05:40:22 PM
Hahaha I remember a time when he was selling those for $400 and everyone was shaking their heads.  I'm guessing if he buys them for $400 now, he must feel he can sell them for twice that.  Times change.

T
Ah, so he's known for that type of thing then?
It's thanks to him that I lost a poster I was in the process of buying. The seller said they talked to him and was told the poster was "super rare" and was convinced to that it was worth three times as much as what I was going to purchase it for.
I've always seen his posters listed for way more than they're actually worth and of course some sellers think just because that's what he has them listed at that it *must* be what the poster sells for.

I just ended up buying the poster from another seller who gave it to me at a more reasonable price.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 23, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
He is extremely knowledgeable and extremely expensive.  Hi Dave!  He also has an amazing website.  I would never recommend expensive dealers, heck I would not recommend any dealers, but I somehow have a fondness for Dave.  I think he's actually good for the hobby.  And you do get what you pay for.

T
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Post by: okiehawker on December 23, 2021, 08:47:34 PM
I think also some buyers don't want to hunt and just want the poster. They are willing to pay for the ease of just buying what they want.  I know if I add up the amount of time spent in "the hunt" that time can be significant. Okie
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Post by: Neo on December 23, 2021, 09:38:54 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 23, 2021, 05:40:22 PM
Hahaha I remember a time when he was selling those for $400 and everyone was shaking their heads.  I'm guessing if he buys them for $400 now, he must feel he can sell them for twice that.  Times change.

T

He had them listed for $450 for a long time. I just checked and the cinemaster price for the last ones was $995.  faint2.gif Maybe that $450 wasn't too crazy back then if folks on eMovie are bidding close to that much now.
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Post by: Tob on February 03, 2022, 11:19:22 AM
Are we ok to out Sotheby's auctions considering bargains are somewhat hard to come by at that venue? If so, some nice ones are currently up...

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2022/original-film-posters
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Post by: Simes on February 04, 2022, 04:20:03 AM
'somewhat' might be the understatement of the year thus far...
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Post by: eatbrie on February 04, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
Great stuff, thanks for sharing, although looking at it is the only thing I can afford to do.

T
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Post by: Simes on February 13, 2022, 10:57:56 AM
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/octopussy-mgm-ua-1983-folded-very-good-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-dan-goozee-artwork-james-bond/p/162209-24008.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Enough said!
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Post by: crowzilla on February 13, 2022, 11:33:02 PM
Quote from: Simes on February 13, 2022, 10:57:56 AM
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/octopussy-mgm-ua-1983-folded-very-good-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-dan-goozee-artwork-james-bond/p/162209-24008.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

I would grade that "excellent"; but on my scale, excellent is one of the lowest grades after "good" and "fine".
What a difference from this Very Good/Fine of the same title that HA offered a couple years ago: https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/james-bond/octopussy-mgm-ua-1983-rolled-very-good-fine-one-sheet-27-x-41-dan-goozee-artwork-james-bond/a/162013-55343.s?

They barely kick Grey out the door and already spiraling down.
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Post by: eatbrie on February 13, 2022, 11:50:39 PM
I would grade it as "poor" or "keep away from".  Anything with missing pieces, especially post 1970 is poor in my scale.

T

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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on February 13, 2022, 11:51:58 PM
Grey Smith is...GONE???
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Post by: crowzilla on February 14, 2022, 12:46:07 AM
Quote from: Monster_A_GoGo on February 13, 2022, 11:51:58 PM
Grey Smith is...GONE???

He informed the board members here a couple of weeks ago:
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,15760.msg250267.html#msg250267
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on February 14, 2022, 01:45:05 AM
Golly. Thank you for that. I was totally clueless. Despite HA's $30 premium price right off the top on the first bid and bigger fees all around, Grey was a classy, familiar, and somewhat friendly  entity on the site. It's too bad he is gone.
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Post by: Simes on February 14, 2022, 04:52:48 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 13, 2022, 11:33:02 PM
They barely kick Grey out the door and already spiraling down.

Nah, this is vintage, laugh-a-minute, standard Heritage grading.

The entire poster could be missing in action, and it'd still be graded Fine.
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Post by: crowzilla on February 14, 2022, 05:59:15 AM
Quote from: Simes on February 14, 2022, 04:52:48 AM
Nah, this is vintage, laugh-a-minute, standard Heritage grading.
The entire poster could be missing in action, and it'd still be graded Fine.

Except of course when it's not, like this Davy Crocket graded VG just a week ago: https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/western/davy-crockett-king-of-the-wild-frontier-buena-vista-1955-folded-very-good-one-sheet-27-x-41-western/a/162206-51090.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

even signature pieces can be downgraded, remember the Wizard of Oz that was Fair/Good?
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Post by: riley540 on February 14, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
The photos of the Dracula insert in the upcoming signature auction make the restoration look a little poor. I feel like Fine/Very Fine is a stretch based on the condition issues noted.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/dracula-universal-1931-fine-very-fine-on-linen-insert-14-x-36-/p/7272-51005.s?ic=Home-FeaturedItems-071515
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Post by: 110x75 on February 14, 2022, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: riley540 on February 14, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
The photos of the Dracula insert in the upcoming signature auction make the restoration look a little poor. I feel like Fine/Very Fine is a stretch based on the condition issues noted.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/dracula-universal-1931-fine-very-fine-on-linen-insert-14-x-36-/p/7272-51005.s?ic=Home-FeaturedItems-071515

The major problem with that Dracula insert seems to be fading IMHO (what looks orange should look red, right?)
In the other hand, those with pockets deep enough to bid on it probably don't want to wait until another example appears...
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Post by: crowzilla on February 14, 2022, 12:01:50 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 14, 2022, 11:16:01 AM
The major problem with that Dracula insert seems to be fading IMHO (what looks orange should look red, right?)
In the other hand, those with pockets deep enough to bid on it probably don't want to wait until another example appears...

The only two I've seen in person looked just like this copy,
Will you post yours so we can see the red you are talking about?
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Post by: 110x75 on February 14, 2022, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 14, 2022, 12:01:50 PM
The only two I've seen in person looked just like this copy,
Will you post yours so we can see the red you are talking about?

Easy, cowboy!  :)
I used "seems to be" and "IMHO" just because I am not 100% certain. Having doubts is still acceptable around here or did I miss something?
I'm not lucky enough to have seen one of these in person, so I have nothing to compare against. I did see some posters wich suffered discoloration for being exposed to light, and in those posters the red areas turned into an orange -ish color.
The reds in the styles A and F one sheets for Dracula, certainly look "really red", so if the colors of the insert were always meant to be those that can be appreciated in the Heritage example, its surely an odd choice from the poster makers.
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Post by: crowzilla on February 15, 2022, 05:57:09 AM
Quote from: 110x75 on February 14, 2022, 12:29:13 PM
Easy, cowboy!  :)
I used "seems to be" and "IMHO" just because I am not 100% certain. Having doubts is still acceptable around here or did I miss something?
I'm not lucky enough to have seen one of these in person, so I have nothing to compare against. I did see some posters wich suffered discoloration for being exposed to light, and in those posters the red areas turned into an orange -ish color.
The reds in the styles A and F one sheets for Dracula, certainly look "really red", so if the colors of the insert were always meant to be those that can be appreciated in the Heritage example, its surely an odd choice from the poster makers.

No worries, you just got me all excited - I thought maybe you had another copy to compare it to.
As I said, the other two I've seen have colors pretty much like this (as does one style of half sheet).
The colors definitely give it a creepy and atmospheric look, they may have been all found together, I'm not sure about their origin; other than they came from the West Coast.
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Post by: 110x75 on February 15, 2022, 09:35:05 AM
Quote from: crowzilla on February 15, 2022, 05:57:09 AM
I thought maybe you had another copy to compare it to.

I wish!

If all known copies look like this, there's a chance they were printed like that, yep. We won't know for sure unless another copy in different condition appears.
I just find odd that if all the other pieces from the promotional campaign use such bold coloring, the insert looks so "washed" (for lack of a better term).
Maybe it has to do with the printing process, as stone lithography was used for one sheets (wich keep their bold colors) but the insert and lobby cards were offset-printed, and maybe those inks aged differently?
The dust-jacket of the photoplay book is a good example of what I mean. This 2 copies were auctioned by Heritage, and as can be seen, light has affected one more than the other

(https://i.ibb.co/6RCNPs1/Dracula.jpg)
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Post by: crowzilla on February 15, 2022, 03:40:17 PM
I agree those are very different.
Red definitely fade first, but one thing I have noticed with fading is that the lighter colors will also usually wash out completely.
In the book example you posted, the tag line block ("was he beast...man...") is consistently light orange on both of those, showing no signs of fading.
I wonder if there were two print runs on those covers?

This one is interesting:
The colors remain consistent after the fold line goes under the cover, where you think it would be far less likely to be faded.
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F5%2F0%2F6%2F1%2F25061412%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

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Post by: redman on February 23, 2022, 05:32:14 PM
any bids on the jimmy bond  :D
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Post by: eatbrie on April 22, 2022, 08:02:44 PM
Just checked HA upcoming auction.  Well, tomorrow ;)  Lots of good stuff.  I see a dozen posters with my name on it but it's going to be hard.  I have kids' soccer, tennis, football and soccer games tomorrow.  Busy Saturday!!!  And I'm coaching one soccer game.  Shit!!! 

Good luck to all bidding.

T
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Post by: redman on April 30, 2022, 04:05:07 PM
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F5%2F8%2F6%2F1%2F25861627%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

Heritage flogging the film festival poster as a R49 this time
They don't listen. carry on nothing to see here. more donations to trump no doubt
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Post by: 50s on June 09, 2022, 10:36:24 PM
Sorry, I dont know which thread to stick this....

This looks like a very big poster banner thingy (Vinyl)
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/928011064582417/ (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/928011064582417/)

(https://scontent.fbne3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t45.5328-4/272180640_4327588044012052_9068736028025522582_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s960x960&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c48759&_nc_ohc=aXcgbeD4LFEAX83PNzh&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne3-1.fna&oh=00_AT8XDffpJbLkz-eYKE2v_jSyVzfpRd12UvjGjGL6C8uVWA&oe=62A7BB54)

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Post by: eatbrie on June 09, 2022, 11:55:53 PM
Haha love it!!!  Was it taken from a helicopter?  I’m sure someone will buy it.

T
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Post by: Tob on June 10, 2022, 04:36:21 AM
 ; That is an excellent photo! I thought it was tricky trying to photograph bus shelter posters, but this is on another level. 
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Post by: Crazy Vick on June 28, 2022, 07:55:28 AM
https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-auction-memorabilia-westwood-cinema-movie-theater/40351200

Somewhere in middle America -
Anyone planning to attend (and taking orders)?
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Post by: eatbrie on June 28, 2022, 11:57:31 PM
I was there a couple days ago.  Not that it matters much anyway, I would never attend something like this.

T
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Post by: eatbrie on November 18, 2022, 09:27:43 PM
Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T
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Post by: riley540 on November 18, 2022, 10:18:34 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 18, 2022, 09:27:43 PM
Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T


Just don’t bid on what I want and we will be good!
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Post by: crowzilla on November 18, 2022, 11:31:33 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 18, 2022, 09:27:43 PM
Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T

You must be looking at a different section than I am.
I see lots of faded and restored pieces and am just shaking my head.

Why did Hall buy a CGC graded 9.2  title card for The Golem and not only crack it out (which is fine of course), but then put tape on the back??  moron1
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Post by: crowzilla on November 19, 2022, 02:47:50 PM
Re: HA Auction

Let this be a lesson for the kiddies today: 
Don't spend a fortune amassing an incredible lobby card collection and then display them all in direct sunlight so they get faded and the value destroyed.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 19, 2022, 03:03:23 PM
Luckily for me, I don't buy single lobby cards, so I totally skipped the morning auction.

But I see a lot of fading even with posters.  Case in point:

HA vs MINE
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52509983067_bd9c6378ac_b.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52509983082_037d57f671_o.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52509995112_4e305863f7_b.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52509995137_bbabb7a634_b.jpg)

There are plenty more like this.  I really hope it's a bad picture, but then again, why would you advertise something at your Signature auction with a bad picture?

T
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Post by: crowzilla on November 19, 2022, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on November 19, 2022, 03:03:23 PM
Luckily for me, I don't buy single lobby cards, so I totally skipped the morning auction.

It's nice when what you collect can be found that way.
Would never have gotten my Metropolis card if I had waited for a set instead of jumping on a single card. Probably couldn't have afforded a set anyways, and not everyone wants a Metropolis lobby either, so it all works out pretty good.
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Post by: eatbrie on November 19, 2022, 03:31:43 PM
Trust me, there are a lot of lobbies that I would like to own and never will because I can't find it as a set or if I do it is too expensive.  I'm fine with that.  I am just not interested in single lobby cards.  Never have.

T
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Post by: Antoine1973 on November 19, 2022, 07:05:46 PM
I'm also quite shocked at the amount of fading in all the Uni Horror cards that are offered in this Signature Sale.  I think that explains why most are underperforming because in terms of rarity and desirability, they're as high as it gets for lobby cards in the hobby.
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Post by: oldposterho on November 24, 2022, 11:36:27 PM
That was an amazing collection.  Bang on the best available cards for every film, pity about the fading but at least he got to enjoy them.  Presumably.


Quote from: crowzilla on November 19, 2022, 02:47:50 PM
Re: HA Auction

Let this be a lesson for the kiddies today: 
Don't spend a fortune amassing an incredible lobby card collection and then display them all in direct sunlight so they get faded and the value destroyed.
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Post by: crowzilla on February 20, 2023, 01:12:31 PM
Getting this thread up where we can find, as there is some interesting duplication coming up between Emovie's "major" auction and Heritage's Signature auction. Not just the usual Star Wars items, but actual hard to find things.
And both are closing on the same day in April.
Good luck to all consignors.
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Post by: eatbrie on April 28, 2023, 05:08:00 PM
I just checked HA's upcoming signature auction, and, wow, it is a first for me, there is nothing of interest.  Yeah, my wallet!  Everything that I could be interested in is unfortunately linenbacked, so it's a hard pass, but to have nothing is a first for me in the 20 years I have been following the sale. 

My kids will be happy.  No phone during their soccer/baseball games.

I also already own 72 items, so it will be fun to see if my stuff is worth anything.

T
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Post by: Neo on June 30, 2023, 03:59:35 PM
This one could also go in the taglines thread:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53013811103_caa26b5650_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oLDD4V) (https://flic.kr/p/2oLDD4V)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394696569831?hash=item5be5bfb3e7:g:kmUAAOSwq8tkf-Wi (https://www.ebay.com/itm/394696569831?hash=item5be5bfb3e7:g:kmUAAOSwq8tkf-Wi)
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Post by: 110x75 on July 01, 2023, 03:34:05 PM
Good ol' Olen Ray!  ;D
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Post by: Neo on July 06, 2023, 04:32:55 PM
Quote from: 110x75 on July 01, 2023, 03:34:05 PM
Good ol' Olen Ray!  ;D

Yeah, I don't know much about the guy or his work, but interesting filmography.  Monster a GoGo mentioned this one in one of his acquisitions threads so it must be a classic.  happy1

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158
 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158)
Brude also mentioned this movie, and seeing it with Tobe Hooper aka Leatherface, who starred in Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113)

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Post by: 110x75 on July 09, 2023, 05:05:44 PM
Quote from: Neo on July 06, 2023, 04:32:55 PM
Yeah, I don't know much about the guy or his work, but interesting filmography.  Monster a GoGo mentioned this one in one of his acquisitions threads so it must be a classic.  happy1

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158
 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158)
Brude also mentioned this movie, and seeing it with Tobe Hooper aka Leatherface, who starred in Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113)

His words "nude women are the best special effect" says a lot about his films,,,,  ;D
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Post by: Neo on August 12, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
The bidding battle started early for this one:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53111901445_fb15113dde_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oVjnUH)
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Post by: crowzilla on August 12, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
Quote from: Neo on August 12, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
The bidding battle started early for this one:

That can't be right. Wasn't someone here insisting that poster was only a $300-600 max piece?
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Post by: Heather_Mason_SH3 on August 12, 2023, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on August 12, 2023, 03:22:07 PM
That can't be right. Wasn't someone here insisting that poster was only a $300-600 max piece?
It WAS not even two years ago. One desperate person overpays and now everyone thinks it's worth thousands, and they are selling as such. I had my eyes on the Sleepaway Camp posters for a while now. They were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time (and I only started collectingin 2019). My comments were made before this became the norm for the poster.  eyeroll
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Post by: Starling on August 12, 2023, 05:51:12 PM
Sleepaway Camp has one of the most insane and unsettling final scenes of all time. Like, nightmare inducing. Pretty cool poster, too :)
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Post by: Neo on August 12, 2023, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: Starling on August 12, 2023, 05:51:12 PM
Sleepaway Camp has one of the most insane and unsettling final scenes of all time. Like, nightmare inducing. Pretty cool poster, too :)

Oh zoinks.  :o  I figured the movie must have some good parts for the posters to be in such high demand.  With that description I'll have to add it to my watchlist.  cool1
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Post by: BruceH on August 12, 2023, 07:47:01 PM
Quote from: Heather_Mason_SH3 on August 12, 2023, 03:45:29 PM
It WAS not even two years ago. One desperate person overpays and now everyone thinks it's worth thousands, and they are selling as such. I had my eyes on the Sleepaway Camp posters for a while now. They were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time (and I only started collectingin 2019). My comments were made before this became the norm for the poster.  eyeroll

Were those ones thar were "were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time" the 2 line version or the 3 line version, and were they unfolded and in nice condition?
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Post by: Heather_Mason_SH3 on August 12, 2023, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: BruceH on August 12, 2023, 07:47:01 PM
Were those ones thar were "were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time" the 2 line version or the 3 line version, and were they unfolded and in nice condition?
The one you have for auction right now is actually the first I've seen unfolded. I have seen examples of both the two line version and three line version and quality differed from good to very good. I don't doubt that current one is probably the most pristine copy out there, hence the appropriate price. I wouldn't be surprised if the final bid on it doubles or more!
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Post by: Charlie on August 13, 2023, 07:34:18 AM
Quote from: Neo on August 12, 2023, 06:11:23 PM
Oh zoinks.  :o  I figured the movie must have some good parts for the posters to be in such high demand.  With that description I'll have to add it to my watchlist.  cool1

I don’t know. It’s pretty mind searing - you’ll never think of it the same way again. Shuddderrr - wish I had never watched it.
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Post by: bigmike on August 13, 2023, 11:51:56 AM
Again with  the Sleepaway Camp. I sold mine back and am regretting it. Not because of the cost. But my main collection is horror. I get the price above because it’s rolled and as others mentioned the condition is great. But what are the chances now I find a folded one for decent price…
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Post by: Neo on August 13, 2023, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: bigmike on August 13, 2023, 11:51:56 AM
Again with  the Sleepaway Camp. I sold mine back and am regretting it. Not because of the cost. But my main collection is horror. I get the price above because it’s rolled and as others mentioned the condition is great. But what are the chances now I find a folded one for decent price…

With the current demand, at the well known places, very low probability.  It all goes in cycles, though.  I'm sure a lot of the older stuff, that some people think is so vastly superior to modern stuff, and has been in very high demand by a few folks with deep pockets - that stuff will see dips in the market value.  Maybe someday the modern stuff will be more in demand than Metropolis, King Kong, etc., and then it also will potentially face a decline in the market eventually.
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Post by: bigmike on August 13, 2023, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Neo on August 13, 2023, 02:43:34 PM
With the current demand, at the well known places, very low probability.  It all goes in cycles, though.  I'm sure a lot of the older stuff, that some people think is so vastly superior to modern stuff, and has been in very high demand by a few folks with deep pockets - that stuff will see dips in the market value.  Maybe someday the modern stuff will be more in demand than Metropolis, King Kong, etc., and then it also will potentially face a decline in the market eventually.

I can wait. I’m in no rush, I guess I just have to keep an eye out. But it’s like Jaws and back to the Future. I still don’t have copies of them because the prices now always seem high for them. Like does everyone and their grandma keep bidding on them or are dealers just scooping them up..
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Post by: Starling on August 13, 2023, 03:20:43 PM
I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting  ;D
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Post by: Neo on August 13, 2023, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: bigmike on August 13, 2023, 03:11:35 PM
I can wait. I’m in no rush, I guess I just have to keep an eye out. But it’s like Jaws and back to the Future. I still don’t have copies of them because the prices now always seem high for them. Like does everyone and their grandma keep bidding on them or are dealers just scooping them up..

Yeah there are a lot of folks looking to score those, so the demand is still very high, despite the large supply.  As you said, patience is key for a good deal.
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Post by: Neo on August 13, 2023, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: Starling on August 13, 2023, 03:20:43 PM
I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting  ;D

The 4, 0, 4-5, etc. *known to exist.  ;).  There could be a warehouse or attic, who knows, with several more.  By the time those who have the few known to exist decide to sell them, it'll depend on how deep the pockets are of the folks who want to win them. 

Some artists who were famous in their time are almost unheard of now whereas others' works like those of Vermeer, etc. who were almost unheard of back in the day are the most treasured.
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Post by: Neo on September 26, 2023, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: Starling on August 13, 2023, 03:20:43 PM
I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting  ;D

That's not what I was saying.  The outliers for titles, for example the very few known to exist copies for these older popular films, cannot be compared to the regularly seen versions of newer popular films.  Scarcity is of course a big determining factor in separating the common sales prices for versions that are regularly seen compared to the less common versions - ex. Jaws 6, 7 sheet, etc. vs one sheet, etc.
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Post by: Neo on September 26, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
I really like the colors and style of this UK video poster for Friday the 13th.  The bids have been going up rapidly and still almost 5 days left in the auction.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/256231223290 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/256231223290)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53214702292_95e57768d1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p5pg27)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53216087710_576107f47f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p5wmRC)

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Post by: eatbrie on September 26, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
Nice!  Waaaaay above my pay grade, unfortunately.

T
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Post by: crowzilla on October 03, 2023, 10:54:33 PM
Maybe my eyes aren't what they used to be when I was helping the FBI detect Universal horror fakes, but isn't this a hairy belt poster?

https://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=6621624
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Post by: crowzilla on October 04, 2023, 10:56:16 AM
Just want to say that Bruce handled that as quickly and well as I thought he would, and the auction looks really good so far.
It's great to add so many items to my watch list that are "completely unrestored", while also feeling any restored pieces have been properly explained and identified.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 04, 2023, 12:05:04 PM
That's essential to me.  Should I ever sell any of my gear, I would go to the person I know, and although I have never met him in person, Bruce has always been there to answer my questions and doubts.  His team is very knowledgeable and passionate, and very good at handling issues (case in point, that Star Wars poster) and he himself replies promptly. 

To be honest, I don't even know who's in charge at HA anymore.  They had a few erroneous listings at their last Sig Auction which I pointed out, they eventually (after a while) removed those listings, but no one ever got back to me, let alone said thank you.  I feel like the whole movie poster side of that auction house, which, I get it, is a drop in the bucket compared to their other auctions, is without a driver since Grey left.

T
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Post by: Antoine1973 on October 04, 2023, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 04, 2023, 12:05:04 PM
To be honest, I don't even know who's in charge at HA anymore.  They had a few erroneous listings at their last Sig Auction which I pointed out, they eventually (after a while) removed those listings, but no one ever got back to me, let alone said thank you.  I feel like the whole movie poster side of that auction house, which, I get it, is a drop in the bucket compared to their other auctions, is without a driver since Grey left.

T

I had the exact same experience: I pointed out several errors in their last couple of Signature auctions (including a French 1951 re-release poster for La Belle et la Bete that had been mistakenly identified as from the 1946 first release) and never heard back from anyone (although they did amend their listings, so I guess there's that).  Heritage does feel a bit rudderless in their movie department these days...
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Post by: crowzilla on October 04, 2023, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 04, 2023, 12:05:04 PM
To be honest, I don't even know who's in charge at HA anymore.  They had a few erroneous listings at their last Sig Auction which I pointed out, they eventually (after a while) removed those listings, but no one ever got back to me, let alone said thank you.  I feel like the whole movie poster side of that auction house, which, I get it, is a drop in the bucket compared to their other auctions, is without a driver since Grey left.

This is the feeling I get when looking at their poster stuff now.
Yes, their three signature auctions do more than any other company does in a year, they still do their weeklies plus the new showcase auctions, and they advertise plus make great catalogs - BUT, somehow it still gives an overall feeling that they don't care. It's not enough money to move the needle for them, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them drop poster auctions entirely at some point in the near future and just include them as parts of their overall entertainment auctions.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 04, 2023, 03:09:54 PM
You may be right.  First there was this AWFUL decision to change their weekly bidding model to "you must place a bid to be able to bid again later" which was, well, awful and probably turned away of a lot of bidders (they have changed it back since); and then Grey left and I don't think anyone who knows anything took over.  I mean, the amount of mistakes they make is staggering.  And then there is the zero communication.  If they stop and Bruce stops, then what?

T
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Post by: bigmike on October 04, 2023, 04:06:12 PM
HA hasn’t even responded to any of my consignments.
Bruce has taken them
Propstore was interested.
HA? Don’t know. I have sent several replies for different items and no emails back.
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Post by: Neo on October 12, 2023, 01:35:38 PM
I wonder what this one will realize.  Some folks rate it the best cover art for the series:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53253682424_b03b70f377_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8R3sm)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53253617703_cf061aac2b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8QHdt)
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Post by: skyjackers on October 12, 2023, 02:13:01 PM
I doubt it will go as high as the other one. Condition isn't the greatest.
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Post by: Neo on October 12, 2023, 03:46:45 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on October 12, 2023, 02:13:01 PM
I doubt it will go as high as the other one. Condition isn't the greatest.

Yeah I noticed the minor condition issues also.  Also different from the recent one for part I, it's the more common artwork, although in more of the video store release style.  I think some folks may put a premium on it for that reason, though.
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Post by: skyjackers on October 12, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
Maybe so. This poster wasn’t sent out folded though, but I know some people don’t mind folds and they can add character to certain posters. I sold my copy of this some time ago and the buyer said it was a hard one to find, so maybe if it is scarce the price will reflect this.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 12, 2023, 08:10:48 PM
I'd like to know what it ends up at bc the design is extremely common, so if it sells for a lot of money, it's people just loving home video posters, I guess.

Plus it's in terrible condition.

T
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Post by: Neo on October 13, 2023, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 12, 2023, 08:10:48 PM
I'd like to know what it ends up at bc the design is extremely common, so if it sells for a lot of money, it's people just loving home video posters, I guess.

Plus it's in terrible condition.

T

From Poster Price Police to Poster Condition Police!  Haha.  Although it is a more modern poster, it's pretty darn rare, as SJ said.  As you know with your older stuffs featuring Ms. Bardot, etc. that you've mentioned you've only seen one or a few copies, one can't be too choosy with the condition.

On another note, being Friday the 13th today, and in the Halloween spirit and all, I think that will have an effect on the interest in it.

Currently 19 watchers with just under 2 days to go: link to auction (https://www.ebay.com/itm/266446270772?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20230811123856%26meid%3Dff444bcd91d74d3ea242860879bb0f83%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D266446270772%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3A2a6726c318b0a242129ff3a0ffff703e%7Cpageci%3A70f18201-69fa-11ee-b71e-7a65e05435d8%7Ciid%3A1%7Cvlpname%3Avlp_homepage)
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Post by: eatbrie on October 13, 2023, 04:47:18 PM
All I'm saying is that those 3 (UK, French, Italian) are all over the place, larger, and better looking.  The British one even comes ROLLED!!!  Not rare, I get it, but at least you can see them hahaha

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53255827896_4294c7c590_b.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53256180709_0156ca054f_b.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53255827881_53156a3a27_b.jpg)

T
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Post by: Neo on October 13, 2023, 08:43:15 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 13, 2023, 04:47:18 PM
All I'm saying is that those 3 (UK, French, Italian) are all over the place, larger, and better looking.  The British one even comes ROLLED!!!  Not rare, I get it, but at least you can see them hahaha


I know what you mean about very similar artwork being available on other formats.

With this one you might be right, that there may be enthusiastic bidding from folks who really appreciate the video store style.  There could be an entire new topic on video stores.  Such a long lost era.  When Blockbuster stores and their DVD mail service ended in 2014, I started a subscription to Netflix DVDs and now they just stopped their DVD service a couple weeks ago.  :'( This one is also from the golden age of video stores, before Blockbuster started to dominate, etc. 

Now this auction is at 22 watchers.  I'd be surprised if any of the other formats for this title would have that many watchers.  Looking forward to see the results of this one.
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Post by: eatbrie on October 13, 2023, 10:36:38 PM
I'm one of the watchers, even though I obviously won't be bidding.

Let's see.

T
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Post by: bigmike on October 14, 2023, 05:37:13 AM
I don’t think watchers mean as much as they used to. I had two auctions last week with over 25 watchers each. And only 3-4 people ended up bidding on the item. Maybe I’m wrong on this.

I also agree with T, in my eyes it’s not that rare (image wise). Maybe the poster itself yes. But like T mentioned there’s already a lot of posters with that image already. Im all for rare. I over paid for a Nightmare on Elm 2 UK video store poster because I haven’t seen that image before and would consider that one rare vs this one..
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Post by: skyjackers on October 14, 2023, 08:56:37 AM
This one doesn't pop up that often. I don't think it will do anywhere near as well as the part 1 poster though (but would be very happy if it did) and personally I would take an Elm Street 2 over this.
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Post by: Neo on October 16, 2023, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: bigmike on October 14, 2023, 05:37:13 AM
I don’t think watchers mean as much as they used to. I had two auctions last week with over 25 watchers each. And only 3-4 people ended up bidding on the item. Maybe I’m wrong on this.

I also agree with T, in my eyes it’s not that rare (image wise). Maybe the poster itself yes. But like T mentioned there’s already a lot of posters with that image already. Im all for rare. I over paid for a Nightmare on Elm 2 UK video store poster because I haven’t seen that image before and would consider that one rare vs this one..

Impressive number of watchers.  Sometimes with high Buy it Now prices, I think a lot of folks watch but only small percentage of them would purchase at the current price.  You never know with sellers; they might have 50% off sales or change the listing to no reserve auctions, etc.  With no reserve auctions, it seems like the greater the number of watchers, the more will potentially bid, and who knows how high.
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Post by: Neo on October 16, 2023, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on October 13, 2023, 10:36:38 PM
I'm one of the watchers, even though I obviously won't be bidding.

Let's see.

T

The ending sale at about $65 seems like a reasonable number, all things considered.


How about this Friday the 13th 3 UK video poster (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225808411796?hash=item34933aec94:g:S3UAAOSwwy9jdoMG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwAxc4twOIoUx5PhBQUumTVoS9Nk6qr%2FrzS3lLax5jKZ0ppH6Rpn99IHo8vpEYGFbJi73tpDUWf15kaF5TVkGwUTmZjNvEOzZFp6ETvwNkQp35RJ%2BEHq743AWyo5WrUxW1sxgSZ8hRl7T01gouqEgcUNGYCBI%2BxLH5T78zP16UPUXq2LoHr45fDXXeVM8s5J1yqMlNefGEO17HcSwi416FHOOSRgf%2FdDqj%2FsvCK3DtprxPtsG969A5IT8LOUf8covMQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8qB-prnYg) that ends in just under 2 days?  I think the 3D effect artwork is cool.  Apparently a lot of folks who are really into the series rate it at the lower end of the series' artworks.  How long will this Friday the 13th video poster mid-auction analysis continue in chronological order?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53263032461_22752943d6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9EXTT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53263509980_64c1156aec.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9HpQY)
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Post by: Neo on October 16, 2023, 05:36:58 PM
*almost chronological order. I had a forgetful moment; of course, the "final chapter" one mentioned previously is part 4 in the series.  Doh.gif
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Post by: bigmike on October 16, 2023, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: Neo on October 16, 2023, 02:18:35 PM
Impressive number of watchers.  Sometimes with high Buy it Now prices, I think a lot of folks watch but only small percentage of them would purchase at the current price.  You never know with sellers; they might have 50% off sales or change the listing to no reserve auctions, etc.  With no reserve auctions, it seems like the greater the number of watchers, the more will potentially bid, and who knows how high.

That’s what I had. No reserve 100 comic lot. 20-30 watchers. Not even a last minute bid. It was bid on the second last day and that was it. Sold then.
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Post by: Neo on October 16, 2023, 07:17:47 PM
Oh darn.  Yeah that's rough, all the watchers and hardly any bidding, with the no reserve listing ($0.99 starting price I assume).  Of course it's possible that someone interested could be sneaky and have multiple accounts to watch the item, luring the seller to believe there's a lot of interest and then it sells at much less than the seller was hoping for.  I think it's unlikely that many buyers would do that, but it's possible.
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Post by: BwanaDik on October 19, 2023, 05:37:05 AM
They watch to follow prices; they are presumably people in similar business and having the exact same posters.   
And yes, never thought of that, they may use pseudo so that you can't do link between the pseudo and their professional account.
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Post by: Neo on October 19, 2023, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: BwanaDik on October 19, 2023, 05:37:05 AM
They watch to follow prices; they are presumably people in similar business and having the exact same posters.   
And yes, never thought of that, they may use pseudo so that you can't do link between the pseudo and their professional account.

Yeah some watchers are potentially sellers with the same or similar stuff.  It's clear that sellers for specific styles have similar trending prices.  With less common stuff, I think that sellers more often do what they want and aren't as concerned with other sales, as there's not nearly as much of a trend in those cases.
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Post by: Neo on November 26, 2023, 03:12:48 PM
The title art artwork on this one looked really zany, and I was surprised to see the price jump so quickly to over $300 in the first day of a 10 day auction:



(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53358080599_8ccba3c61a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pi57oT)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53356871962_06b0f28fb4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2phXV7j)
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Post by: Heather_Mason_SH3 on November 26, 2023, 07:16:20 PM
@Neo That poster is insanely rare. I wasn't even sure one actually existed until now. It's one I've kept an eye out for since I first started collecting. It's not the most popular film but it's still a cult film, slasher, and 80s. That combo makes it very desirable at the moment. I was going to consider bidding but may not do so anymore because my money has gone elsewhere.  faint2.gif
I might have been willing to bid that high if I hadn't spent money elsewhere.  Doh.gif
Love the artwork and the film itself was decent. Maybe another day.
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Post by: Neo on November 26, 2023, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Heather_Mason_SH3 on November 26, 2023, 07:16:20 PM
@Neo That poster is insanely rare. I wasn't even sure one actually existed until now. It's one I've kept an eye out for since I first started collecting. It's not the most popular film but it's still a cult film, slasher, and 80s. That combo makes it very desirable at the moment. I was going to consider bidding but may not do so anymore because my money has gone elsewhere.  faint2.gif
I might have been willing to bid that high if I hadn't spent money elsewhere.  Doh.gif
Love the artwork and the film itself was decent. Maybe another day.

Sounds like you know your stuff with this genre.  It's cool to see pieces that are so rare to the point of not knowing whether they even exist to appear for sale.  Looks like this one is in excellent condition also.  It'll be interesting to see how the auction goes.
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Post by: eatbrie on December 04, 2023, 04:07:31 PM
Just checked the first page of Bruce’s upcoming auction.  Man, I’ve been after that Star Wars 7 sheet forever, but I won’t touch it libenbacked.  Why do people have to linen everything?

T
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Post by: Heather_Mason_SH3 on December 04, 2023, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 04, 2023, 04:07:31 PM
Just checked the first page of Bruce’s upcoming auction.  Man, I’ve been after that Star Wars 7 sheet forever, but I won’t touch it libenbacked.  Why do people have to linen everything?

T
I'm feeling the same way about this auction. There are some things I would want...but they're all linenbacked so I'm not going to bid. Too much linen in this one. There might be ONE I might be willing to go for...maybe...It's a shame so many posters are linenbacked that really don't need to be.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: BruceH on December 04, 2023, 09:12:20 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 04, 2023, 04:07:31 PM
Just checked the first page of Bruce’s upcoming auction.  Man, I’ve been after that Star Wars 7 sheet forever, but I won’t touch it libenbacked.  Why do people have to linen everything?

T

Thierry, I know you HATE linen, but I know you HAVE been known to make exceptions, and I respectfully submit this is one of those time!

There are so few of these, and you could never display it unbacked (not that you would)!

Best of luck if you have a change of heart!
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Post by: eatbrie on December 04, 2023, 09:40:07 PM
I promise you I could display it folded, if indeed I did.  I’ve had a few 6 sheets on my wall, Josey Whales, Jaws and Star Wars, and it’s actually quite easy with pins and clips.

I own one linenbacked 6 sheet, Laura, and it’s just impossible to handle and even harder to store.  I put it in a gigantic tube and it will never see the light of day again, at least not in my house.  Too much trouble.

The only way to own one of these is to actually display it permanently and never touch it again, but this is not my style, so I must pass.  Folded, I would have gone all in, along with a lot of other folks I suspect.

T
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Post by: wonka on December 05, 2023, 10:37:13 AM
Its a Star Wars 7 sheet. A true grail. Who cares if its on linen. Own a white whale no one else has and if the linen is so repulsive and you can't sleep, have it easily removed.
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Post by: Neo on December 05, 2023, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: wonka on December 05, 2023, 10:37:13 AM
Its a Star Wars 7 sheet. A true grail. Who cares if its on linen. Own a white whale no one else has and if the linen is so repulsive and you can't sleep, have it easily removed.

It is extremely rare, high demand, etc., and a grail, in any condition state, for a lot of folks.  You're probably not gonna convince the anti-linen/restoration folks, though, if there's a possibility they can find one unbacked.  I'm pretty sure it would probably have to be backed to something after the backing is removed.  That might be the worst option with something already backed. 
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Post by: crowzilla on December 05, 2023, 06:37:11 PM
We should probably make a thread for Heritage blunders at this point, but here's yet another: 
They label this Heritage Enterprises (no relation, just a small film distributor) re-release US one-sheet as an original Lebanese (?!) one-sheet.


(https://i.postimg.cc/Rq22Jn7W/leban.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Rq22Jn7W)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 05, 2023, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Neo on December 05, 2023, 03:15:25 PM
It is extremely rare, high demand, etc., and a grail, in any condition state, for a lot of folks.  You're probably not gonna convince the anti-linen/restoration folks, though, if there's a possibility they can find one unbacked.  I'm pretty sure it would probably have to be backed to something after the backing is removed.  That might be the worst option with something already backed.

I won’t buy something like that for the reasons I mentioned above, #1 being too hard to store.  Also, I believe it might pop up one day folded.  As far as unbacking it, um, great idea, but no thank you.  My main beef here, and obviously not Bruce’s fault at all (he sells what he has) is why people keep backing everything.  It vexes me.  I’m terribly vexed.

T
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Post by: Neo on December 05, 2023, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: eatbrie on December 05, 2023, 08:09:23 PM
I won’t buy something like that for the reasons I mentioned above, #1 being too hard to store.  Also, I believe it might pop up one day folded.  As far as unbacking it, um, great idea, but no thank you.  My main beef here, and obviously not Bruce’s fault at all (he sells what he has) is why people keep backing everything.  It vexes me.  I’m terribly vexed.

T

Understandable.  Seems like a lot of seasoned collectors view stuff as "it's only original once" and appreciate the imperfections, and avoid any restoration.  To be clear I think unbacking and leaving it unbacked would be the worst decision.

For most folks, buying a backed larger format poster would be much easier and ideal for them to display.  You're right, they take a huge tube and a lot more space to store vs folded/unbacked.  This 7 sheet for Jaws would be epic on display, even moreso linen backed without the folds IMO.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: redman on December 06, 2023, 06:08:19 PM
love these  Cabral (https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/tag/nation%253AMexico/tag/art%253AErnesto%2520Garcia%2520Cabral/13.html)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: redman on December 06, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
never seen this
first thought was
jimmy sex doll (https://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=6664842)
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 06, 2023, 07:08:30 PM
Quote from: redman on December 06, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
never seen this
first thought was
jimmy sex doll (https://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=6664842)

 mesmrized Someone on Facebook said the Taylor Swift poster looks like that.  mesmrized
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on December 13, 2023, 06:50:39 PM
Quote from: redman on December 06, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
never seen this
first thought was
jimmy sex doll (https://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=6664842)

Made me chuckle! It is a bit of a strange facial expression that the artist captured.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Crazy Vick on December 19, 2023, 09:00:57 PM
Great battles on right now!  Good on you Bruce. bed1 bed1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: eatbrie on December 19, 2023, 09:30:53 PM
Completely bonkers and unreal to me.  I say unreal because all I see here are a few people with way too much money driving prices up.  I don't think these prices mean anything and I wouldn't be surprised if Jaws and ESB sell for 1/2 those numbers at the next sale.  But good for Bruce.  He must be happy

Having said that, I own 20 of the 80 most expensive posters, so I would have done very well at this auction.  If I was selling of course.

T
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on December 20, 2023, 05:53:39 AM
Quote from: Crazy Vick on December 19, 2023, 09:00:57 PM
Great battles on right now!  Good on you Bruce. bed1 bed1

I was just looking at the bid history of that Jaws 7-sheet - quite the battle between the final two bidders. From ~$6k up to $25k
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Post by: crowzilla on December 20, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tob on December 20, 2023, 05:53:39 AM
I was just looking at the bid history of that Jaws 7-sheet - quite the battle between the final two bidders. From ~$6k up to $25k

Kind of the essense of all high price posters, isn't it?
Like T said, these will most likely be down a lot the next time they are offered, there just aren't lines of people spending five figures plus on posters.
Once you get to the mid-way of that (say $50k), there are about two handfuls of buyers,  and one of those handfuls are people looking to resell the poster to the other handful.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Tob on December 20, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on December 20, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
Kind of the essense of all high price posters, isn't it?
Like T said, these will most likely be down a lot the next time they are offered, there just aren't lines of people spending five figures plus on posters.
Once you get to the mid-way of that (say $50k), there are about two handfuls of buyers,  and one of those handfuls are people looking to resell the poster to the other handful.

Interesting, thank you.

I shop at the low end, but I often seem to be bidding against one other person and together we push the price up by about 300%+ as we both try to win the auction. I sometimes imagine it's the same person, my collecting nemesis! It's strangely re-assuring to see it happen at the high end and to know that I'm not the only one thinking "imagine how cheap I could have got this one if it wasn't for this pest..."
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 20, 2023, 06:26:01 PM
That is interesting how few people there are at the very high end.

I think it's also safe to say that there are folks waiting for one of the 2 guys in the bidding war to stop bidding so they can swoop in and place a bid.  It's just a question of at what point would that person have placed a bid in the middle of the battle the 2 guys were in.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: bigmike on December 24, 2023, 12:52:35 PM
Wow!.. Hateful 8 Canadian Poster at $1000 on EMP.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on December 26, 2023, 02:46:24 PM
Quote from: bigmike on December 24, 2023, 12:52:35 PM
Wow!.. Hateful 8 Canadian Poster at $1000 on EMP.

Darn good result.  The two highest previous results at eMovie were $455 and $303, and the other 15 sold between about $100-$250.

The Canadian artwork is really good, especially for a newer (2015) movie.  Maybe being the winter season currently, and the snowy winter atmosphere of the artwork, helped achieve the high result.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422798038_9472ddec0f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2poMNCN)
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Post by: eatbrie on December 26, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
$100 to someone is a $1,000 to someone else.  Still, it’s a little out of control.  I have a little Tarantino collection, and although I have the quad of the same design, I never bought the one sheet.  The quad is so much better for this design.  Still, I would have prob paid $200 for it.  But a thousand…. Good for whoever can afford that.

T
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Post by: skyjackers on January 22, 2024, 02:53:57 PM
Looking through the catalogue of the upcoming Propstore poster auction I was surprised to see they have a Thai Joker 1-Sheet and are using instagram to push it. I appreciate we might all have different thoughts about these Thai/International 1-sheets, but for me having a large auction house offer these titles does seems to legitimise them. Maybe The Joker poster was never in question?

I also noted they have number of Video posters and haven't seen theses offered before. Admittedly, they are in lots, but considering the recent conversation about the rise of the Video poster I'm interested to see how these do.
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Post by: Neo on January 22, 2024, 05:48:59 PM
Thanks for the prop store link.  They have some very cool UK video stuff, killer klowns quad, and more.  I probably won't be bidding but it'll be interesting to see how they all do in this venue.

Edit: Some of the autographs look OK, but many of the autographed photos are terrible IMO - just a big scribble across the middle of the photo.  Several great original posters and prints, but why have signatures like those mixed in?  I don't understand.
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Post by: Neo on February 07, 2024, 01:13:41 PM
Quote from: skyjackers on January 22, 2024, 02:53:57 PM
I also noted they have number of Video posters and haven't seen theses offered before. Admittedly, they are in lots, but considering the recent conversation about the rise of the Video poster I'm interested to see how these do.

Some good bidding so far at PropStore.  The lot with The Goonies, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, etc. is currently over $1,100, the lot with They Live, etc. is over $600.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on March 01, 2024, 09:45:30 AM
I have like dozens of linen backed posters stored in a room , lost count on how many......50+ ?

Storing for example italian 2sh/4sh goes just fine.....obviously an 8sh billboard would take up more space than usual   
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Post by: Neo on March 05, 2024, 03:20:44 PM
Anyone wanna guess what this Killer Klowns will sell for?  Currently 15 watchers with almost 5 days left.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305402510984?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QBXN7mibQEq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=t2uZ4plJSe6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/305402510984?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QBXN7mibQEq&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=t2uZ4plJSe6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)

A classic movie IMO.  Seems like it's becoming more popular recently; I don't know whether it's the old folks who saw it back in the day and/or a new crowd.  Several years ago I vaguely remember T mentioned that one of the producers said another was in the works to be made.  I wonder what happened with that.
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on March 05, 2024, 04:00:30 PM
Oooo I so want one, but not for that much. Yowza!!! Poster prices have gotten so outrageous in the last 20 years. For years and years and years they were fairly cheap—$5, $10, $25, etc. I kick myself for missing my chance to get a KILLER KLOWNS poster at a reasonable price.
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Post by: Neo on March 05, 2024, 08:52:29 PM
 The recent one that was in much worse condition sold for $200 within a few hours, so I don't know if this starting price is "yowza" high haha.  As you said, though, relatively high compared to just a few years ago. 

I was surprised the Killer Klowns quad at PropStore recently didn't go higher - it was about $1,400 if I remember correctly.  Maybe because it wasn't perfect condition. 

The nostalgia really hits with this title, although I think it would be fun for folks seeing it for the first time nowadays also.  One of the most memorable of that time, with great poster artwork also IMO.
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Post by: Monster_A_GoGo on March 05, 2024, 08:55:07 PM
It is a very original movie.
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Post by: okiehawker on March 06, 2024, 11:19:22 PM
I wonder if some of the Killer Klowns interest is also because MeTV has shown the movie at least a couple of times on Saturday night over the last year or so.  Okie
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Post by: bigmike on March 07, 2024, 06:06:52 AM
I’m sure there will be more interest as it’s getting released on 4K next week as well.
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Post by: Neo on March 07, 2024, 06:18:44 AM
I hadn't heard of the MeTV showings and 4k release.   cool1
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: marklawd on March 07, 2024, 11:57:30 AM
Quote from: Neo on March 05, 2024, 08:52:29 PM
I was surprised the Killer Klowns quad at PropStore recently didn't go higher - it was about $1,400 if I remember correctly.  Maybe because it wasn't perfect condition. 

It sold for £1500 including BP so around $1900. Not so bad.

Mark
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Post by: bigmike on March 07, 2024, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: marklawd on March 07, 2024, 11:57:30 AM
It sold for £1500 including BP so around $1900. Not so bad.

Mark

I didn’t read the quotes in this and thought you were referring to the Video poster that was up for auction and almost choked on my food.
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Post by: skyjackers on March 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: bigmike on March 07, 2024, 02:03:09 PM
I didn’t read the quotes in this and thought you were referring to the Video poster that was up for auction and almost choked on my food.

Although it is a Quad it's still a Video poster as I don't think Killer Klowns had a theatrical release in the UK. I got the Quad that I had from a Video shop when it was released on Video.
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Post by: Neo on March 07, 2024, 07:57:37 PM
Quote from: marklawd on March 07, 2024, 11:57:30 AM
It sold for £1500 including BP so around $1900. Not so bad.

Mark

Ok I forgot about the BP.   faint2.gif. Not bad, indeed, although it seems to be one of the most sought after of the era, and in that sense, I think it's going to continue to increase.

Quote from: skyjackers on March 07, 2024, 04:11:05 PM
Although it is a Quad it's still a Video poster as I don't think Killer Klowns had a theatrical release in the UK. I got the Quad that I had from a Video shop when it was released on Video.

That is interesting.  A few of the smaller version have sold for peanuts compared to the quad, possibly since the quad seemed to be known as the theatrical version.  Maybe the smaller version will catch up in price to the quad someday.
Title: Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
Post by: Neo on March 08, 2024, 01:09:34 PM
Quote from: Neo on March 05, 2024, 03:20:44 PM
Several years ago I vaguely remember T mentioned that one of the producers said another was in the works to be made.  I wonder what happened with that.

Here's the thread were T mentioned this (from Mr. Cramer, not the producer as I said above), and some other Klowns discussion, in 2010.  Time flies, eh?

Quote from: eatbrie on January 07, 2010, 11:32:09 AM
Nope :)

I know it has a HUGE cult following and Grant is trying to set up a sequel that he wrote himself.  Beyond that... that's all I know.  Here, do you recognize him?  That's my Iphone picture.
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Post by: eatbrie on March 08, 2024, 03:13:38 PM
Oh my, that was a long time ago.  Grant and I used to hang out all the time back then.  Like every weekend.  We were on the permanent guest list of a club Hugh Hefner owned on Sunset Blvd so we would have drinks with him and his girls on Friday nights.  That was the life.  Seems like a lifetime ago.  Then kids, Covid, moving to the beach, I haven’t seen Grant in years.  I think he’s still trying to make Killers Clown 2, but he’s a producer now and his priorities are not the same.

T

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Post by: Neo on March 08, 2024, 07:24:04 PM
Guest list, eh?  I guess Mr. Hefner was a big fan of Killer Klowns.

Back then I was living at the beach.   crying

Interesting to look back, and how some of this stuff is just as popular, if not more popular, than it was then.  You should call Mr. Cramer and tell him the APF homies and a lot of other folks would be stoked about Killer Klowns 2.
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Post by: bigmike on March 13, 2024, 03:04:30 PM
Sleepaway camp poster on eBay listing for $2500…
Kinda high for me.
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on April 12, 2024, 07:06:26 AM
Dr No spa 1sh sold 4k in 2021 , what will it f*tch now ?

TX Chainsaw quad , anothr diamond
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Post by: crowzilla on April 12, 2024, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on April 12, 2024, 07:06:26 AM
Dr No spa 1sh sold 4k in 2021 , what will it f*tch now ?

I'm scratching my head thinking "spa" one-sheet, what's a spa one-sheet. There's no Dr No poster where he's in a spa.
Then I realize, Spanish one-sheet?  That sounds even crazier. Where did a Spanish Dr No sell for $4,000 in 2021?
Last emovieposter sale was a few months ago for $1500
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Post by: Neo on April 12, 2024, 04:49:29 PM
 rofl1

The abbreviations, acronyms, etc. get out of control sometimes.
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Post by: eatbrie on April 12, 2024, 05:05:44 PM
Yes, Tang Lung in Rome, it would be very helpful if you actually spelled out words completely.  Most people I’m sure, including myself, miss half your posts for that reason.  Spa doesn’t mean anything.  I have a spa and bathe in it daily.

Tysmia (thank you so much in advance)

T
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Post by: skyjackers on April 12, 2024, 05:50:46 PM
I think Tang mentioned in another post that his 'e' isn't working on his keyboard, not that there is an e in Spanish though.
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Post by: eatbrie on April 12, 2024, 05:54:57 PM
Hahaha

Well, that’s kinda ridiculous.  How much is a keyboard?  Or fixing a keyboard?  Probably less than a poster.

T
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Post by: Tang Lung in Rome on April 14, 2024, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: crowzilla on April 12, 2024, 04:08:44 PM
I'm scratching my head thinking "spa" one-sheet, what's a spa one-sheet. There's no Dr No poster where he's in a spa.
Then I realize, Spanish one-sheet?  That sounds even crazier. Where did a Spanish Dr No sell for $4,000 in 2021?
Last emovieposter sale was a few months ago for $1500
(https://i.postimg.cc/67pz25g3/1-DN-spa-1sh-vg-emovieposter.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67pz25g3)

I call it 2sh/4sh , not "1panel" or whatever
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Post by: crowzilla on April 14, 2024, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: Tang Lung in Rome on April 14, 2024, 05:45:48 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/67pz25g3/1-DN-spa-1sh-vg-emovieposter.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67pz25g3)

I call it 2sh/4sh , not "1panel" or whatever

I've never heard of anyone calling a spanish one-sheet a 2sh/4sh since it's about the same size as a US 1-sheet, but I guess compared to the handbill it's quite large.
Also seems the Covid bump has dropped quite a bit on this, as the one today "only" sold for $1650, and of course the one in December for under $1600.