Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[enki]

He was a very nice man who was unrelated to the composer. He spent much time tracking down great condition examples and then getting them signed.

He had started auctioning his collection through us, and then he passed away. I had talked to him several times on the phone and he told me about getting his posters.

Are some of his posters in your upcoming Star Wars auction (that you postponed due to the HA one)?

[enki]

So I called HA and confirmed that they will accept credit card, but only for auctions where the INVOICE total is <$2500. Anything more than that, and it's cash/check/wire/moneyorder only. And in this case, both days of auctions would be put on one invoice.

On the bright side, I keep getting all these balance transfer checks in the mail at least twice a week (not exaggerating) from Citibank with 0% for 2 years. While they've always been shredded and thrown away, now might be a time to use one of them  .

[eatbrie]

Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af

[Zorba]

Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af

 

I change my mind. Compared to that the Star Wars Cake is very under priced.

0 feedback bidding war. Fake bidders. Is that a real poster even?

[paul waines]

What is wrong with some people.....

I'm finding the same on the Bay, there seems to be a few bidders with small feedbacks, who are bidding Stupid prices... As though they were in a rush to get a nice collection at any cost....

There's a name for those people.......Pilocks.

[Zorba]

There's a name for those people.......Pilocks.

That fits nicely. 

[eatbrie]

What pleases me most is that I got mine a couple days ago for $15.

Ah, if only I was a seller, I'd be rich.

T

[paul waines]

Would you really want to be Rich....

[Zorba]

What pleases me most is that I got mine a couple days ago for $15.

Ah, if only I was a seller, I'd be rich.

T

So it is a real poster.

I thought you were already rich.  

Would you really want to be Rich....

 

[paul waines]

If I was a Seller I'd be Bruce,    He's a T1000 selling Machine..

[eatbrie]

So it is a real poster.

I thought you were already rich.  

 

Yes it is.  The Imax version.

No I'm not.

[Zorba]

Yes it is.  The Imax version.

No I'm not.

I think everyone with more than me is rich 

[eatbrie]

I'm surrounded by people who live in $3 mil + houses, so everything is relative.

T

[paul waines]

Ahh, that's good to know, my idea your a Millionaire Playboy still holds up...

[eatbrie]

Well, I'm married, so I'm not a playboy.  But then again, I'm French.

[paul waines]

I think of it more as your job....

[Bruce]

Are some of his posters in your upcoming Star Wars auction (that you postponed due to the HA one)?

Nope. It is a very depressing story on why his posters are not in my auction. Suffice it to say that if you have a desire to have your collection auctioned in a certain way after you pass on, LEAVE IT IN WRITING!

But if those wacky bidders don't reneg and pay those prices, then it will work out for his heirs, who are also very nice people and that is what really counts. Of course it is virtually a certainty that some fair number of bidders think that "From the collection of the late John L. Williams, noted Star Wars collector" means that the poster was owned by the composer, which might make them worth more in their eyes.

[enki]

Nope. It is a very depressing story on why his posters are not in my auction. Suffice it to say that if you have a desire to have your collection auctioned in a certain way after you pass on, LEAVE IT IN WRITING!

But if those wacky bidders don't reneg and pay those prices, then it will work out for his heirs, who are also very nice people and that is what really counts. Of course it is virtually a certainty that some fair number of bidders think that "From the collection of the late John L. Williams, noted Star Wars collector" means that the poster was owned by the composer, which might make them worth more in their eyes.

It's a shame when your heirs don't respect your wishes, written or otherwise.

And I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.

[paul waines]

I do hope none of you New guys are bidding on this re-pro.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320948163138?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_587wt_1186


His Thunderball re-pro is going for even more, you have been warned...

[Bruce]

It's a shame when your heirs don't respect your wishes, written or otherwise.

And I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.

When Thierry is old and sick (many decades from now), he should change his name to "Steven T. Spielberg", and then after he passes his Spielberg collection will auction for a fortune!

[stewart boyle]

I'm surrounded by people who live in $3 mil + houses, so everything is relative.

T

Pff,bloody paupers how does one cope. lol

Stew

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Really?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-DARK-KNIGHT-RISES-RARE-Orig-2S-IMAX-Movie-Poster-CHRISTIAN-BALE-BATMAN-/170883244207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c96f60af

loaded with Zero FB bidders. Seller is probably trying to get his posters over-valued so he can sell trhem at other over-values

[holiday]

I do hope none of you New guys are bidding on this re-pro.....


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320948163138?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_587wt_1186


His Thunderball re-pro is going for even more, you have been warned...

I'm pleased that the seller does note that he does not guaranty that it's original.  That's enough to put anyone on notice.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I agree about the slightly deceiving presentation on HA. Whether it has confused anyone, which is certainly a possibility, I'm fairly sure that HA phrased it like that so that it might. Especially since John Williams (composer) is famous in part for Star Wars specifically.

I fail to understand how including the real name of the former owner - in other words, telling the truth, the truth, and nothing but the truth - can possibly be viewed as being dishonest.

the exact quote is "From the collection of late John L. Williams. Noted Star Wars collector"

John Williams the composer is still alive, and he is not known as a Star wars collector. If someone looks at the Heritage statement and sees something wrong, I suggest you need to consider how you look at the written word. Also, on page 9 of the catalog, Heritage has a small write-up concerning John L.

this is just another case of mistaken perception

[enki]

I fail to understand how including the real name of the former owner - in other words, telling the truth, the truth, and nothing but the truth - can possibly be viewed as being dishonest.

the exact quote is "From the collection of late John L. Williams. Noted Star Wars collector"

John Williams the composer is still alive, and he is not known as a Star wars collector. If someone looks at the Heritage statement and sees something wrong, I suggest you need to consider how you look at the written word. Also, on page 9 of the catalog, Heritage has a small write-up concerning John L.

this is just another case of mistaken perception

No one said that it wasn't the truth. What Bruce said was that many bidders might be confused between the two. Which, based on some of these prices so far, is certainly plausible. I responded back agreeing with his assumption, and further mentioned that I wouldn't be surprised if someone at HA made sure they mentioned the prior owners name out of hopes that it would encourage that way of thinking.

I've never seen HA advertise who the prior owner was - do they do that often/ever? Also, how notable was this John L. Williams? Bruce knew him, but does anyone else? If he isn't "famous", even in the poster collecting world, what difference does it make that he used to own the poster. His posters weren't even used for the SW Poster Book - something that COULD legitimately add value to the poster. The whole purpose of putting that line in every one of those auctions, whether the intention was completely honorable or not, was to increase the price. Otherwise, why would they have mentioned it. So I ask this - assuming no one at HA made the connection between the similar names, what benefit does "John L. Williams" have to the quality of the poster? He doesn't even show up in a Google search.