Author Topic: Post-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev.... (Read 2837782 times)

MoviePosterBid.com · « **Reply #7400 on:** June 12, 2015, 12:59:01 PM »

Quote from: Filmlobbycards on June 12, 2015, 01:42:14 AM

That was a great result!! More proof that quality paper from the "golden age" of 1930's titles is performing well...I love the font treatment....the fading color of the title and the tweak on the word "THIN"...the stars in the O's...little accents that enrichen the poster...

if you just look at the small percentage of material that gets a good result, you would think it all sells incredible,
once yu get past that few items, you find that - in auction - 1-2% sells better than normal, about 20% sells for fair value, 50% sells for well below expected vale and the remainder sells for dirt.
this goes for all auctions.

and Tait, "little accents that enrichen the poster."

in your case, the word to use is 'enrich'
the other form of the word is 'richen'

that's the English lesson for today ;-)

erik1925 · « **Reply #7401 on:** June 12, 2015, 01:03:18 PM »

It was truly a rich lesson, Rich.

Richly deserved and served with richness.

Crazy Vick · « **Reply #7402 on:** June 12, 2015, 01:34:51 PM »

I love it when Rick corrects my typos.

erik1925 · « **Reply #7403 on:** June 12, 2015, 01:36:35 PM »

Quote from: Crazy Vick on June 12, 2015, 01:34:51 PM

I love it when Rick corrects my typos.

It gives that warm n fuzzy feeling inside...

erik1925 · « **Reply #7404 on:** June 12, 2015, 02:22:19 PM »

The S2's did well last night, too!

Metropolis 3sh - $1994.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3883164

King Kong 3sh - $2014.00

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3883163

eatbrie · « **Reply #7405 on:** June 12, 2015, 02:51:55 PM »

This is where my collecting knowledge ends. I don't understand any of this.

T

pratschm · « **Reply #7406 on:** June 12, 2015, 02:55:40 PM »

ddilts399 · « **Reply #7407 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:03:52 PM »

I dont get the S2's, go to kinko's and have your own printed up. I dont care how good they look.

L.A Confidential continues to go up and sell for stupid money, rare yes, 3K poster??...

Some records were had on several posters last night. Congrats to Bruce... must be new money in the hobby is all I can figure out.

Mirosae · « **Reply #7408 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:14:42 PM »

Quote from: ddilts399 on June 12, 2015, 03:03:52 PM

I dont get the S2's, go to kinko's and have your own printed up. I dont care how good they look.

L.A Confidential continues to go up and sell for stupid money, rare yes, 3K poster??...

Some records were had on several posters last night. Congrats to Bruce... must be new money in the hobby is all I can figure out.

I too was going to ask about LA Confidential. I do not understand the final hammer price... why ...how... gentleman...do please explain!

Roughoutline · « **Reply #7409 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:19:23 PM »

What are S2s?

Mirosae · « **Reply #7410 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Roughoutline on June 12, 2015, 03:19:23 PM

What are S2s?

All that you need to know is in that link

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/index/COUNTRIES/US/Articles/S2.asp

Harry Caul · « **Reply #7411 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:31:11 PM »

Short version: They were an art group (based out of Las Vegas?) that restored an old litho press and made new prints of classic posters. They completely recreated the artwork for each poster, out of necessity due to the process I think. Some of the coolest posters in my opinion are titles like Creature from the Black Lagoon and Attack of the 50 foot Woman – – they were originally printed in offset, but S2 redid them as stone lithos. Anyway, I believe they are now defunct and there are still a few galleries selling off their old stock. There are quite a few posters left and in some cases (King Kong 3-sheet) Gallery prices are considerably less then what day auction for at emovie!

ladeda · « **Reply #7412 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:39:40 PM »

I must be dense because I still don't understand... the appeal

they're repros... high quality lithos... but repros. repros.

repros.

repros.

ladeda · « **Reply #7413 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:41:40 PM »

Quote from: Mirosae on June 12, 2015, 03:14:42 PM

I too was going to ask about LA Confidential. I do not understand the final hammer price... why ...how... gentleman...do please explain!

this too. I don't understand...

many results this year leave me scratching my head.

Crazy Vick · « **Reply #7414 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:47:39 PM »

Meanwhile this amazing 100 year old survived 2 WWs never folded artefact goes for a measly freekin $58

Sorry I'm still bitter.

erik1925 · « **Reply #7415 on:** June 12, 2015, 03:53:00 PM »

Quote from: ladeda on June 12, 2015, 03:39:40 PM

I must be dense because I still don't understand... the appeal they're repros... high quality lithos... but repros. repros.

repros.

repros.

They aren't actually repros; the art was completely re-drawn by the various artists (and new plates created), but based on the original artwork. All have slight variations which can be seen, especially when placed side by side with either an original (or a reproduction of an original piece).

They were discussed here a bit, too.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,3518.0.html

ddilts399 · « **Reply #7416 on:** June 12, 2015, 04:04:57 PM »

cough.. cough.. repro.. cough..

Mirosae · « **Reply #7417 on:** June 12, 2015, 04:07:36 PM »

Quote from: ddilts399 on June 12, 2015, 04:04:57 PM

cough.. cough.. repro.. cough..

Roughoutline · « **Reply #7418 on:** June 12, 2015, 04:19:29 PM »

Thanks all for the information.

Sounds kind of like what Mondo are doing now, which also sell for fairly high prices.

I can understand them being valuable and collectible, but the prices are quite amazing, do people know they're not studio issued originals?

erik1925 · « **Reply #7419 on:** June 12, 2015, 04:24:26 PM »

Yes, buyers should know.

The S2s were never advertised or meant to deceive anyone. They were created on 100+ yr old litho presses brought from France and the higher end versions printed on high quality paper. And because the art was completely redrawn, with new plates created, they were done with quality and pride.

Even back when being sold and available from Jacks Gallery online, the prices for the 3sh were quite high. As were the "plus" versions of the standard size OS that they did.

MoviePosterBid.com · « **Reply #7420 on:** June 12, 2015, 05:14:59 PM »

not sure what stupid people have on the King Kong.. you can buy them for 1200 from the company that bought out S2 Art and you can find for $900 at some other galleries

I have both Kong & Metropolis and didn't pay $200

50s · « **Reply #7421 on:** June 12, 2015, 05:26:14 PM »

When I saw all the S2's I thought there goes another part of Mel's collection. Not sure if these 2 Mel had but many of the others he did

eatbrie · « **Reply #7422 on:** June 12, 2015, 05:39:48 PM »

Quote from: erik1925 on June 12, 2015, 03:53:00 PM

They aren't actually repros.

Hmm, if they aren't originals, they are repros, Jeff. You can twist it as much as you want, they are repros.

T

MoviePosterBid.com · « **Reply #7423 on:** June 12, 2015, 07:16:00 PM »

Quote from: eatbrie on June 12, 2015, 05:39:48 PM

Hmm, if they aren't originals, they are repros, Jeff. You can twist it as much as you want, they are repros.

T

no, they are not repros.

a repro is directly copying the original to produce the result

S2/AFI posters are completely redrawn images, making them a new product.

50s · « **Reply #7424 on:** June 12, 2015, 07:22:35 PM »

They are nothing but disgustingly opportunistic forgeries / fakes

To those that don't read the fine print at the bottom anyway!

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