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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #300 on: January 30, 2015, 02:56:20 AM »
actually, it's all philosophy on both sides of the argument

Raymond Chandler posters. whichever ones I still need.
or gambling.. I like gambling posters also....

Please post a link to the Raymond Chandler poster you're looking for once you find it on Ebay.  I couldn't care less about Raymond Chandler but I will play with you just to prove my point.

T
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #301 on: January 30, 2015, 08:56:40 AM »
...and I will be bidding on whatever is in my Wants list; which is regularly updated and bumped to the top.

Cheers.

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #302 on: January 30, 2015, 09:11:00 AM »
Please post a link to the Raymond Chandler poster you're looking for once you find it on Ebay.  I couldn't care less about Raymond Chandler but I will play with you just to prove my point.
T

Forget Chandler, let's really turn this into an experiment with a poster no one would want under any circumstances (...or would they?) 

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you exhibit A, DOLPHIN SUNSET http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=3751043


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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #303 on: January 30, 2015, 10:51:40 AM »
Vick  moron1
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #304 on: January 30, 2015, 10:59:42 AM »
Please post a link to the Raymond Chandler poster you're looking for once you find it on Ebay.  I couldn't care less about Raymond Chandler but I will play with you just to prove my point.

T

Then, with respect, if you're just going to play with him to prove your point, you're not proving any point.

Cake and eat it.

Rough with the smooth.

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So, swap America with the The Internet, and here we are.

This whole forum is based on outing auctions.  There have been any number of Bond posters I did not know even existed before I came here, to this very site.  And now I know of their existence, I am now bidding, because in effect, their existence has been outed.

Define for me please, the exact moment when Outing starts and ends...

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #305 on: January 30, 2015, 11:13:50 AM »
This whole forum is based on outing auctions.  There have been any number of Bond posters I did not know even existed before I came here, to this very site.  And now I know of their existence, I am now bidding, because in effect, their existence has been outed.

The auctions those newly discovered Bond posters came from were not outed.  However, the posters purchased in those auctions were indeed shared on this forum AFTER THE SALE.  If the person sharing the newly discovered Bond poster had done so BEFORE the original auction ended you are admitting that they would have increased their competition because you yourself would have been interested.  How can you then claim that outing an in-progress auction "has little or no negative effect (Read: Higher sale price) on the outcome"

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Define for me please, the exact moment when Outing starts and ends...

You are conflating two different issues:

1. Outing an in-progress auction can potentially lead to extra bidders and a higher final sale price.
2. Discussing a previously sold poster on this forum can potentially lead to extra bidders and a higher final sale price on the NEXT COPY to come up for sale.


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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #307 on: January 30, 2015, 11:37:31 AM »
 clap  Well said Harry.
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #308 on: January 30, 2015, 12:05:08 PM »
Vick  moron1

Hahaha I will most certainly be outbid from now until Thursday.  SCREW THE SUPERBOWL PM ME YOUR PREDICTIONS folks I'll keep a tally until after the auction thumbsup.gif
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #309 on: January 30, 2015, 12:09:40 PM »
If you dig through the forum enough, there's plenty of evidence that proves the point, time and again.
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #310 on: January 30, 2015, 12:15:43 PM »
Private Messages people - you'll not get the glory you seek here in outting auctions for the masses - only condemnation from those that "get it"
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #311 on: January 30, 2015, 12:16:31 PM »
This Thread Needs its own Theme Song.

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #312 on: January 30, 2015, 12:31:45 PM »
Oddly, that film ended...... I was most unimpressed.
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #313 on: January 30, 2015, 01:41:07 PM »
Ted 2 posters are out...

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #314 on: January 30, 2015, 01:58:53 PM »
Speaking of the Devil, remember, the guy who started this whole diatribe, what happened to him?  I just tried to go to his website and it doesn't exist anymore.  Anyone still in touch with the fellow?

T
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #315 on: January 30, 2015, 02:10:43 PM »
Speaking of the Devil, remember, the guy who started this whole diatribe, what happened to him?  I just tried to go to his website and it doesn't exist anymore.  Anyone still in touch with the fellow?

T

Not sure, but I saw a bunch of his posters for sale in the rolled US 1-sheet auction at eMovie a week ago or so. 

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #316 on: January 30, 2015, 02:13:04 PM »
I've also seen some of his linen-backed posters at HA and emovie.  Flash in the pan collector.

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #317 on: January 30, 2015, 03:46:08 PM »
Please post a link to the Raymond Chandler poster you're looking for once you find it on Ebay.  I couldn't care less about Raymond Chandler but I will play with you just to prove my point.

sadly, there aren't any. as a matter of fact, there is nothing in my watchlist to speak of that isn't a BIN at prices I wouldn't bother with.
of course, my Chandler collection is pretty fat, so it is difficult to find at this point stuff I don't have

If you dig through the forum enough, there's plenty of evidence that proves the point, time and again.

create a whole list of such proof right here.. prove your point

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #318 on: January 30, 2015, 04:08:56 PM »
How much more proof is needed than one of the following:

A) I saw something in this thread, I didn't know was available and I WON it, thus another person did not, and it would have went for less as I would never have seen it.
B) I was the under bidder on something I saw posted here, and the person that won it paid more than they would of if I never saw the item.

Who cares if the other bidder bid the same regardless, the bottom line is that bidder either didn't get the item at their bid price or didn't get it all, because I saw it.

I mean, what else is there. I suppose you folks that think otherwise still believe in the Easter bunny and that fairy dust exists?

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #319 on: January 30, 2015, 04:22:45 PM »
I've also seen some of his linen-backed posters at HA and emovie.  Flash in the pan collector.

I always suspected the inevitable burn out would be blistering
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #320 on: January 30, 2015, 04:25:54 PM »
If I woulda outed my Jurassic Park Lenticular auction it definitely would have sold higher than what I got it for because I was the only bidder.  
Recently an Avatar lenticular sold for 225ish that was put in the wrong category....same case there if Avatar was posted on APF, a member or lurker would have been bidding. I would have been a player if I was aware of it.  Nobody really outs stuff that THEY want to bid on..why? because the price could go up, that would be silly to do so.

I know I have put stuff on ebay and announced it on APF and it instantly sells in ten minutes or less....quite amazing.
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #321 on: January 30, 2015, 04:40:20 PM »
It is simple. If you are thinking about outing the auction don't do it. Keep in in PM with an individual. All it will do is piss people off. I can't believe this is still an ongoing discussion. If you are that eager to talk about it then wait until it is over. Or as I stated before keep it in a PM with a individual. It is easy to bite your tongue.

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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #322 on: January 30, 2015, 04:53:19 PM »
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lol Chris has been after that forever!!!! now he will have to pay $2!!!

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« Reply #323 on: January 30, 2015, 05:02:54 PM »
lol Chris has been after that forever!!!! now he will have to pay $2!!!

$2 American to make it even worse.  That's like $50 Canadian right now...thanks a lot Vick - what happened to national pride?
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Re: Your thoughts on OUTING Ebay auctions
« Reply #324 on: January 30, 2015, 05:29:54 PM »
The auctions those newly discovered Bond posters came from were not outed.  However, the posters purchased in those auctions were indeed shared on this forum AFTER THE SALE.  If the person sharing the newly discovered Bond poster had done so BEFORE the original auction ended you are admitting that they would have increased their competition because you yourself would have been interested.  How can you then claim that outing an in-progress auction "has little or no negative effect (Read: Higher sale price) on the outcome".  

You are conflating two different issues:

1. Outing an in-progress auction can potentially lead to extra bidders and a higher final sale price.
2. Discussing a previously sold poster on this forum can potentially lead to extra bidders and a higher final sale price on the NEXT COPY to come up for sale.



I am editing this as my initial attempt at posting was done on the train: it lead to a half-assed attempt to read and respond.  Sorry.

You are exactly right.  I am conflating two different issues.  (I had never heard of the word 'conflate', so thank you for bring that to my attention.)

1. On this forum, I believe it won't lead to extra bidders as everyone on this forum is at the top of their game and if interest is sufficient, they will already be aware of the poster's existence.  However, if one were to Out a poster on every other type of collecting / antiques / richpeoplesforums.com, type of platform, then yes, maybe this will indeed lead to a higher price.  But that is not happening and is not what we are discussing here.

2. Yes, the post-purchase discussion of a poster can also lead to the next poster turning up for auction acquiring more bidders and more awareness.  So, in the spirit of selflessness, should we also then Not discuss that which could lead to some other's downfall in the poster purchasing stakes?  Which means this forum and its raison d'etre ceases to exist.

I just cannot see where it begins and ends.  To be a complete pain in the ass, I could also say that, On This Forum, if a dealer is made aware of a forum member's awareness of the dealer's poster being for sale / auction, then said dealer cannot then pop it up in the Dealer's or For Sale forums.

At the end of the day, a bidder has the freedom of choice to bid to a certain level, And, in the best interests of the business of film, more than one poster was always printed of a given title - another will always turn up.

Fellas, this is the environment and age in which we live.  It's a game and I would just prefer to languish in the sharing of knowledge of all than to sweat over a poster going for an arbitrary sum too much for my pocket.
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