Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[Harry Caul]

Meanwhile... Did anyone else notice that Todd also just listed a Black Cat 1sh last night for a cool $250k?

[Silhouette]

Lot of loose chat about these being fakes. You'd have to be pretty ballsy to list a fake on eBay, be asking $200K plus and not expect people to check...

[CineMasterpieces]

Most of the ones you see on ebay are not really "fakes", they are reproductions that people list as real ones....sometimes by mistake, sometimes on purpose.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Lot of loose chat about these being fakes. You'd have to be pretty ballsy to list a fake on eBay, be asking $200K plus and not expect people to check...

it takes a real moron to question the posters that Todd is selling

[110x75]

Rich, I couldn't doubt about Todd's honesty as I don't know anything about him, besides that he is one of the biggest early horror collectors, but taking in consideration that Haggard was also a top collector, well-regarded among his colleagues, the possibility is there, even if highly unlikely.
Personally I believe Dave is right and this is a case of difference between pressbook images and real posters.

[brude]

Meanwhile... Did anyone else notice that Todd also just listed a Black Cat 1sh last night for a cool $250k?

Ain't it a beaut?

[110x75]

I wouldn't mind owning any of the two. 

[crowzilla]

it takes a real moron to question the posters that Todd is selling

I don't know about a moron, but at least someone who doesn't know Todd.
There are also very few posters in existence where one could list a $200K starting price and have a legitimate comment that it was a "low opening bid".
This is not such a poster.

It is amazing that we are talking about "photographic variance" when discussing the art mock-up of a poster from a pressbook.  The pressbook is not showing photographs of actual posters, but rather a guideline of what the art department will be producing (and in some cases still doesn't produce). The original release of the Raven is a famous example of showing items that were not produced.

Here is another. Besides the title card, not a single one of these lobby cards was produced showing the images from the pressbook. That is seven strikeouts in our pressbook.

[110x75]

I don't know about a moron, but at least someone who doesn't know Todd.

Or and old beef... 

Interesting info on that Frank pressbook. 

[erik1925]

Thanks, Sean and Dave, for explaining that pressbook images could sometimes just be early mockups of what may or may not be available or even produced, poster wise, versus what was actually finally printed. I assumed that pressbooks showed what actual, existing poster styles were available, so that theater owners could decide what styles and sizes they wished to display.

I have emailed with Todd before and know the caliber of material he has, has sold and his reputation.

I was pointing out variances in the 2 images, based on the pressbook style D image.

I suggested a possible later re-release, based on the original artwork; I also certainly know that Todd would not ever offer a fake.

[crowzilla]

Maybe that's why Todd has set such a low opening bid for such a scarce poster?

Still scratching my head on this one.
In a thread below we have a guy wanting to set off sirens because the safety of ordering from Bruce has led to bidding of $5 more than you could buy a poster for on eBay, but here we have people talking about a "low opening bid" of $200K. 

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Still scratching my head on this one.
In a thread below we have a guy wanting to set off sirens because the safety of ordering from Bruce has led to bidding of $5 more than you could buy a poster for on eBay, but here we have people talking about a "low opening bid" of $200K. 

they are the Poster Police
some are just rookies though.....

[CSM]

He's asking less for that Black Cat then he sold the red/black/white version for at Heritage (although that was the only one of that style extant)

[MoviePosterBid.com]

the Price Posse will have a long explanation..

I have a short one:

the market ain't what it was.......

[crowzilla]

He's asking less for that Black Cat then he sold the red/black/white version for at Heritage (although that was the only one of that style extant)

Because it's not as nice, nor as rare?
Plus the fact that the people willing and able to spend that much money on a poster either already have a copy, or would rather purchase something else.
He used to advertise it at something around 800K for several years then dropped it to 375K about five-six years ago, and then again once more to the current asking price.
For my money the B style half sheet is better than either of the one-sheets.

[Silhouette]

the Price Posse will have a long explanation..

I have a short one:

the market ain't what it was.......

Frankly THAT was too much information...

"the market ain't what it was" is one thing, telling us about the size of your weener, probably not required...

[eatbrie]

I just spent more than a quarter of that price redoing 2 bathrooms, so all things considered, I don't think 200k is a high starting price for a poster of this caliber.  When something is unique, it becomes a legitimate piece of art, and art is priceless.  So says the Poster Price Police.

T

[crowzilla]

When something is unique, it becomes a legitimate piece of art, and art is priceless.  So says the Poster Price Police.
T

If a second were to surface would it cease being a piece of art? And could a price be put on it then?

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Frankly THAT was too much information...

"the market ain't what it was" is one thing, telling us about the size of your weener, probably not required...

 

[eatbrie]

If a second were to surface would it cease being a piece of art? And could a price be put on it then?

We all have our standards.  By my personal standards, a piece of art is unique.  There is only one.  Two makes it an extremely rare poster.  Still extremely desirable and worth all the money you can sell it for, but not unique.  Take my French Laura, for instance.  There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 

T

[110x75]

There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 

Then you are not Poster Police, you're Poster Fireman

[Ari]

Yeah montag, better take a long hard look at one of your posters.

[110x75]

I will.
Memorize every detail.
And then describe it to the guy that restored Bob's E.T. poster so he can make a replica.
Sounds like a plan. 

[Silhouette]

We all have our standards.  By my personal standards, a piece of art is unique.  There is only one.  Two makes it an extremely rare poster.  Still extremely desirable and worth all the money you can sell it for, but not unique.  Take my French Laura, for instance.  There are 2 known copies of this piece, one in a tube at the end of my garage, and one in Japan.  I would love to burn the one in Japan. 

T

I agree it is about personal standards, although I would say its more about personal choice and/or desire.

Would I spend $200K on a poster or piece of art? Probably not. Does that make me less appreciative of the poster, its art, its uniqueness and price? No, I don't believe it does. Would I spend $200K on something that T would not. More than likely - personal choice.

Should I stop asking myself questions out loud? Probably.

[Ari]

I will.
Memorize every detail.
And then describe it to the guy that restored Bob's E.T. poster so he can make a replica.
Sounds like a plan. 

PERFECT. I wonder who will be lucky enough to memorise a great dark knight double sided advance?