Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[crowzilla]

Thanks for the input Steve, definitely appreciate it.

Perhaps we will flip the banner and the menu since we will definitely not be selling advertising there.

You can easily move your cursor over the facebook images to see which one is to follow us, which is to post the item and which is to post the site, as it will tell you which is which,
but we will play around with some text and see if we can keep the clean look.

The main part of our site is Buying - be it at auction, or for a set price. So for now you get a link to see what you can buy. Once there it is easy to separate (and the top banner links to the auctions).
But that's not to say we won't change it in the future. 

[brude]

A Portal KING KONG, being offered as an original (but 1960s re-release, theatrical poster). The bottom was trimmed, per the seller, removing the printer's info. It is also framed. At least the seller realized it wasnt from the '30s.

I notified the seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

I dropped this seller a line asking for the dimensions of the poster.  He replied 29x20.
I responded, telling him the poster was a reprint and that he should adjust his listing accordingly.
Just received a message that he would do so today after work.
Personally, I don't think any collector worth his salt would buy this one, but a newbie thinking he's getting a deal could get snookered.

[Charlie]

But maybe Charlie is right, if there was no MPGrading, then posters wouldn't sell for a lot of money.  Oops, that's already happened.

I can't resist:

Yes sir posters selling for a lot of money has already happened; Mannheim bought a lot of them...   

[erik1925]

Look what's back (either the same or possibly another copy, as one that looks identical to this, sold in March, for $1200.00). Even the tears and areas of paper looks are the same. The same 3 photos were/are used. Here's the current auction- BIN $1500.00:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-KING-KONG-Linen-Back-1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-6-5-/360445971174?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ec410ae6

Here's the auction that closed in March:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=360357329376&nma=true&rt=nc&si=B7FCY432OHvSPkvJXZGlB8sDEDo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Poster offered then and now:





And a side by side with a legit re-release. There is a great difference in print quality and use of color.

Matias, is the poster with "Apresenta" from Argentina? The other, with the bottom credits not blocked out may be a Spanish RR?

[erik1925]

I dropped this seller a line asking for the dimensions of the poster.  He replied 29x20.
I responded, telling him the poster was a reprint and that he should adjust his listing accordingly.
Just received a message that he would do so today after work.
Personally, I don't think any collector worth his salt would buy this one, but a newbie thinking he's getting a deal could get snookered.

I heard from him, too, Ted.

And yet, another appears!: This sellers facts are so mixed up, too, saying that the original poster art was taken from an Italian poster.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/King-Kong-1933-1960s-re-release-Original-Vintage-Movie-Poster-20x29-Rare-/261020741082?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc60c6dda

[brude]

All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...

[erik1925]

All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...

Ted.. exactly..i agree with you.

It was so much lip service..lol. With no bids, he has the ability to edit and amend his description, based on the info he was given. He chose not to. Those small, lame post scripts do nothing. And his wording calls this poster "movie memorabilia" rather than a commercial reproduction.

[ozcinemagic]

All the dude did was reduce the price to $165 and added some senseless postscripts.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190679607615

All of these schmucks should be booted off Ebay...

Should start a new thread: "Best ebay sales tactics & disclaimers."

Selling it for a friend ...
Guy I bought it off said it was original ...
Found this in my old Gran's attic ...
etc etc

[jayn_j]

Should start a new thread: "Best ebay sales tactics & disclaimers."

Selling it for a friend ...
Guy I bought it off said it was original ...
Found this in my old Gran's attic ...
etc etc

...and soon..
Found as insulation in the attic

[110x75]

And a side by side with a legit re-release. There is a great difference in print quality and use of color.

Matias, is the poster with "Apresenta" from Argentina? The other, with the bottom credits not blocked out may be a Spanish RR?

Jeff, the poster being offered on ebay is from Brazil. "Apresenta" is portuguese for "presents" and "em" is portuguese for "in" (below the star's names).
The printing company info in the bottom right is different to the argentinean rerelease, and different printers could explain the difference in image quality.
As for the darkened credits at the bottom, I don't know what could have been the reason to do it...

Everything seems to indicate that the poster is original, and being from Brazil I guess would add to the  rarity. Just not $1500 rarity...

[erik1925]

Jeff, the poster being offered on ebay is from Brazil. "Apresenta" is portuguese for "presents" and "em" is portuguese for "in" (below the star's names).
The printing company info in the bottom right is different to the argentinean rerelease, and different printers could explain the difference in image quality.
As for the darkened credits at the bottom, I don't know what could have been the reason to do it...

Everything seems to indicate that the poster is original, and being from Brazil I guess would add to the  rarity. Just not $1500 rarity...

Thanks, Matias. 

[110x75]

No problem. I was wondering if Peter Jackson has one of those...

[erik1925]

The above linen backed KONG poster is, in fact the same one that was sold in March. That first buyer realized this was a later, possible 1947 re-release poster, and not from 1933. He informed the seller of this, who then issued him a refund. (I contacted and asked the March buyer).

So now, 2 months later, the seller re-lists and continues to advertise this as a 1933 poster. (That, plus 300.00 added to the price   )


 

[CSM]

The above linen backed KONG poster is, in fact the same one that was sold in March. That first buyer realized this was a later, possible 1947 re-release poster, and not from 1933. He informed the seller of this, who then issued him a refund. (I contacted and asked the March buyer).

So now, 2 months later, the seller re-lists and continues to advertise this as a 1933 poster. (That, plus 300.00 added to the price   )


 

Caveat emptor

[erik1925]

Matt, as a side note -- the first auction you referenced was actually misidentified by HA as a 1954 first release French 1P. It isn't, but is also another 1962 RR, as evidenced by it also being printed with the same Visa de Censure number (No. 641) as the other. These Visa numbers were begun to be put on French posters in the early 1960's. The 1954 release French 1P shows a full bodied creature coming up behind Julia Adams in the water. I think I have the image. I will post, when I locate it.

Here is a closeup side by side of the Visa numbers from the mislabeled, "1954 release" (on the left) and the 1962 RR on the right (both from the auctions you indicated). They are identical:

 

Here is the same Visa No. on the French medium '62 RR:

Here is the French 1P for the first release of CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON. It opened in France on April 13, 1955 (and in Paris on July 13, 1955):

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

So will the cavalry come through at the end?  This one has some restoration but would probably go for $3,000+ on the more established websites.  Gotta say Peter & Sean are awfully brave to throw this out there in a first auction.....

[MoviePosterBid.com]

can any of you enlighten me as to why posters for this title sell for such price as they do??

[brude]

I was wondering the same thing...

[Neo]

I think it's because it's a movie that a lot of people like and some may think it will be a cult classic.  The movie is unique in some ways, and the one sheet (other than the tagline  ) is also unique, as one reviewer said "the pink lettering makes it sooooo campy."    

I liked the movie, and decided to get the vinyl banners and Australian one sheet.

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01694.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01758.jpg
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01914.jpg

[MoviePosterBid.com]

and the one sheet (other than the tagline  ) is also unique, as one reviewer said "the pink lettering makes it sooooo campy."  

here is something pink for that reviewer

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Somebody offered $210K for the Invisible Man:

[MoviePosterBid.com]

vultures circling a dead carcass

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Looks like most of the stuff on MPE sold in the mid/low FMV range:

[Der Januskopf]

Looks like most of the stuff on MPE sold in the mid/low FMV range:

This info would be better suited in the POST auction thread, wouldnt it? 

[Charlie]

I found a Chandler poster Rich!!! Deported?