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Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
« Reply #2525 on: May 02, 2012, 10:59:55 PM »
Mel's the guy riding shotgun

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« Reply #2526 on: May 02, 2012, 11:27:50 PM »
You know, I should just delete this whole fucking thread so that I can get the good buys!

Or, maybe I should just delete this particular posting:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html

Can't imagine anyone here knew about this auction.  Really.
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« Reply #2527 on: May 02, 2012, 11:28:53 PM »
You know, I should just delete this whole fucking thread so that I can get the good buys!

Or, maybe I should just delete this particular posting:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4220.0.html

Can't imagine anyone here knew about this auction.  Really.

Asshole!  ;)
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« Reply #2528 on: May 02, 2012, 11:50:51 PM »
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!
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Re: Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....
« Reply #2529 on: May 03, 2012, 12:26:30 AM »
Holiday is my hero..

I might even have a boner

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« Reply #2530 on: May 03, 2012, 07:33:24 AM »
Lord, I think some folks must live in a fantasy world sometimes. It doesnt matter if there are 1 or 100 watchers it is the 101st that had a long week at work and no time to look for auctions all week but sat down, read the forum and saw your post and decided to bid an extra 50.00 that makes a difference.

We have a winner.

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« Reply #2531 on: May 03, 2012, 10:13:33 AM »
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!

Holiday, you completely missed the point, which makes Rich's agreement boner all the more hilarious.

A dealer/seller posting info on their stuff is night and day from an independent third party outing a singular auction at random, and for no reason.

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« Reply #2532 on: May 03, 2012, 11:03:44 AM »
Oh, damn. I spilled the beans!

Hell, I got a personal e-mail from the guy on the auctions this morning.  I am really starting to like this guy.

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« Reply #2533 on: May 03, 2012, 11:28:18 AM »
Holiday is my hero..

I might even have a boner

You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times, but I think that is because you are not reading his comments in the original Belgian!

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« Reply #2534 on: May 03, 2012, 03:00:55 PM »
You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times, but I think that is because you are not reading his comments in the original Belgian!

I believe this ties all the comments over the last few days together quite nicely... http://bit.ly/IZDNax
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« Reply #2535 on: May 03, 2012, 03:09:31 PM »
That's an old post from two years ago. I've said many times since then that the issue is whether you are realistically depriving someone of a bargain by discussing a pending auction. I used to think a $1,000 threshold was the right balance but now I think the number of watchers/bidders is key. If there are a boatload of watchers/bidders, it's highly probable it will sell for fair market value, so public discussion of it will not affect the final price. And if it does, well that's the "cost" of an interesting forum discussion.



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« Reply #2536 on: May 03, 2012, 03:17:57 PM »
I think Mondo has brought in a lot of people realizing they can flip posters and since they aren't getting the drops like they used to, they have turned to original posters.  And with increasing prices the poster market will soon suck! The spoils to the dealers...

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« Reply #2537 on: May 03, 2012, 03:23:23 PM »
You know, some of you might think Rich is kind of harsh at times

life is harsh.. if you can't stand the truth.. you already have a problem.

by the way.. has anyone seen this auction yet?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110868057438?

or how about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310397221147?

maybe you didn't know this auction existed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120905989687?
and damn it's a great price and he hasn't been able to sell that thing in months of listing
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« Reply #2538 on: May 03, 2012, 03:27:44 PM »
That's an old post from two years ago. I've said many times since then that the issue is whether you are realistically depriving someone of a bargain by discussing a pending auction. I used to think a $1,000 threshold was the right balance but now I think the number of watchers/bidders is key. If there are a boatload of watchers/bidders, it's highly probable it will sell for fair market value, so public discussion of it will not affect the final price. And if it does, well that's the "cost" of an interesting forum discussion.


So you are changing your "rules" again Mel?
What about auctions with no bids (you can't see the number of watchers)?
What about auctions that aren't on eBay?  
What about my $305 Breakfast at Tiffany's 1-sheet that had several bids and lots of watchers, but had a poor description that ultimately stopped people from bidding?  
What about auctions that you are bidding on that have lots of watchers/bidders?
Are you going to publish a list of your rules that state what you will and will not out early so at least we can expect to know when to be fucked over?

As you have stated above, even your own criteria is very subject and inconsistent year to year, week to week.  In that case, can't you just wait a day or two until the auction is over and discuss it then?  If you aren't bidding, you gain nothing by drawing attention to it and discussing it early.  For those who are bidding, you are rolling the dice with their dollars.  

As Rich stated, I can't prove that posting an auction will adversely affect the result.  But on the same token, you can't say with all certainty that you *aren't* adversely affecting the result.  You are kidding yourself if you think you can make that claim with 100% accuracy.  

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« Reply #2539 on: May 03, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »
life is harsh.. if you can't stand the truth.. you already have a problem.

by the way.. has anyone seen this auction yet?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110868057438?

or how about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310397221147?

maybe you didn't know this auction existed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120905989687?
and damn it's a great price and he hasn't been able to sell that thing in months of listing

Quit breaking the rules Mel has established for us... That 7YI doesn't have any bids yet.   eyeroll

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« Reply #2540 on: May 03, 2012, 03:55:04 PM »
From the Post-auction thread:

Linen-backed 2001 "Starchild" 1970 (not 1968) re-release(!!!!!).  As discussed on MOPO, Christie's did announce this was the later re-release but it still went for $2,600.  I paid $100 for a ROLLED copy of this exact poster a few months ago:

But you didn't post the link to your $100 Starchild before it ended here, did you?

Maybe that's because you wanted that one for what you thought was a good deal.

Or is another 'rule' that folks can and should post auctions here they have no personal interest in...?
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« Reply #2542 on: May 03, 2012, 04:15:21 PM »
Well I'm either outing an auction, or saving someone from buying what looks like a re-pro.....Thoughts..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-007-Goldfinger-Original-UK-Quad-Style-Poster-1964-Rare-Original-/140745733880?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8161809368866600433#ht_593wt_1398

I saw that one whilst browsing earlier - I'm no Bond expert, but to me, it looks like a repro as it doesn't look folded. What did you think Paul? Seems to have lots of watchers and up to £300, so some people must think it's genuine.

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« Reply #2543 on: May 03, 2012, 04:16:50 PM »
you've got hand it to Mel though, he has a super thick skin which is admirable. I dont think i could stand the heat

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« Reply #2544 on: May 03, 2012, 04:17:49 PM »
The paper quality looks all wrong, it looks like modern printing. I have this poster, and the finish is nothing like this one has. Any one thinking of bidding stay well clear of this one...


Edit:- As I mentioned a few months back, I have seen 30x40 repros of this poster...
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« Reply #2545 on: May 03, 2012, 05:55:15 PM »
Yes the paper does look 'off' and a picture of the back might help but the thing that stood out to me was that either the top inch has been trimmed or the overall image has been enlarged.

On the original (below) you can see above her brow line which you can't on the one currently being auctioned.



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« Reply #2547 on: May 03, 2012, 06:23:17 PM »
Or is another 'rule' that folks can and should post auctions here they have no personal interest in...?

I most definitely have an interest in that Postman tc I outed earlier. I'm all for educating the public and for fair competition

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« Reply #2548 on: May 03, 2012, 06:27:36 PM »

What about auctions that you are bidding on that have lots of watchers/bidders?
 

This is the most important thing (in my opinion, which of course has been stated many times)
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« Reply #2549 on: May 03, 2012, 06:29:59 PM »
I most definitely have an interest in that Postman tc I outed earlier. I'm all for educating the public and for fair competition

But will you bid (seriously bid)?
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