Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

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The simple fact is, is that people will not highlight an auction THEY are seriously interest in winning. They know there is no gain, only potential for loss.  Yet they are happy for this to happen to some other poor chaps. LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!

If they truly had the interest of the poster community in mind, they should be highlighting their own auctions, helping the poster community understand why their particular item is worth obtaining. Who knows, I might learn something and bid on it myself.

eg Holiday, please tell me about your next prized soon to be acquisition. I would love to gain an insight into the reasoning for purchasing that specific mid auction item. Providing dealer names does not educate me about specific acquisitions. This is a mid auction thread not a dealer thread.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

from my ebay watchlist

have at it

[Cj]

from my ebay watchlist

have at it

That Hong Kong Nights is a beauty Rich.

Can we expect a weekly update from you from now on?

Cj

[Harry Caul]

eg Holiday, please tell me about your next prized soon to be acquisition. I would love to gain an insight into the reasoning for purchasing that specific mid auction item. Providing dealer names does not educate me about specific acquisitions. This is a mid auction thread not a dealer thread.

Better yet it would be great if Holiday could post a list of his best contacts in Japan!  Or maybe in the spirit of sharing T will finally put me in touch with his sources for reasonably-priced, rare french posters?   

One more time for the cheap seats... only like 1 or 2 people have suggested closing this thread (and I'm not even sure how serious they were vs. just floating an option).  I'm not in favor of censorship... just consistency in actions and respect for other members.  Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior! 

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

In the end, all the commotion was a bunch of nonsense.  As I predicted several times, the first bidder - who bid one day before I mentioned it on APF - put an enormous $4,500 bid on it, so you had to bid $4,550 just to get into the game.  Furthermore, all the seller's Bond posters have boatloads of watchers and bids. So there never a chance this was ever going to be a "bargain."  

Of course, my "fans" will claim my prognostication was "lucky."  Not so.  Under the circumstances, it was very clear early on in the game it was going to be fought over and go to fair market value. To wit:

(1) There were three bidders
(2) There were two $1,000+ bids
(3) One of the $1,000+ bids was from a 10,000+ feedback bidder (probably a dealer)
(4) Bond posters always get lots of attention on Ebay
(5) This particular seller is selling several high value Bond posters at once, making it extremely unlikely that all or one of them would escape notice.
(6) Most serious Bond collectors will instantly recognize the Irish quad and know its true value.

[Cj]

I don't think closing it is necessary. Just being mindful of what is being posted would do the trick. I think if everyone sticks to the OMG's, LOL's, and WTF's of auctions and everyone could agree on what that actually entails then this thread would be a fun thread to keep checking out and leaving open.

As far as Holiday, i cant speak for him but I don't think he cares to share or out any auctions. I believe his stance is more so with not censoring what anyone has to say/post as long as it does not cross the line in terms of racial/ethnic slurs and nudity.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

That Hong Kong Nights is a beauty Rich.
Can we expect a weekly update from you from now on?

I can't answer that.. the only thing I can predict in the future is that I will be auctioning something next week and the week after and I may or may not bid on something in the same time period.
Due to time constraints, other endeavors may get sidetracked and/or derailed including my ability to add to this or any other thread.

I may also find that I have more one liners to add before any other constructive use can be made of the forum

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior! 

Harry.. one man's reason is another man's dogma.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Your attitude goes alot towards explaining why you are single...

Sorry Ves, my post was a little flippant and could be perceived as sexist, but 'twas not my intent.

As far as being single, you could be right but also (1) constantly being broke from blowing all my money on movie posters, (2) hanging the risque/porn posters on my walls, and (3) spending too much time hanging out with the APF homies are also factors.

But hope springs eternal!

[Harry Caul]

In the end, all the commotion was a bunch of nonsense.

This is too funny... I just got an eBay reminder on this poster and noticed that it was over $5K.  I was going come here to post that Mel would be returning soon to remind us that he was right all along... Looks like he beat me to it!  

Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  

[MoviePosterBid.com]

this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster

there are two sides to a fence
there are equally two sides to principles
the only problem with any particular principle is when one side attempts to enforce it's principles on the other side.
Libertarians would be all over an argument like this one and Republicans would be against any regulation at all of the subject, similarly, the ACLU would fight against gagging any speech. So everyone should be on the side of "open tent".

Of course, I do understand that to some "free speech" really just means "... as long as I'm the guy making the speech....."

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  

HC, it's too bad you dogmatically refuse to recognize that reasonable people could disagree about (1) whether pending auctions should ever be discussed or (2) whether this particular pending Irish quad auction should have been discussed. 

As far as "principle," Holiday nailed it:

Our job is not to "protect" anyone on this board.  Discussing an auction while it is pending is in no way hurting anyone, unless you define hurting as potentially bringing in new bidders which might cause a higher price at the end.  But, even that could be spun for the greater good of the hobby because the more that are bidding, the more awareness there is, and the higher the prices, the better for all of us as a community.  But, that's not what I'm advocated. 

Ironically, I have been chided for censorship in the past, yet now the majority of you want me to censor this particular issue, because it favors you.  Censorship always favors the majority who want it, and there is not a chance in hell that anything will be censored on this board, other than as we have discussed before regarding hateful conduct.  We are all entitled to our say, and we are all entitled to discuss what we want on this board.  If anyone does not like that philosophy, then they need only close their browser.

[Harry Caul]

there are two sides to a fence
there are equally two sides to principles
the only problem with any particular principle is when one side attempts to enforce it's principles on the other side.
Libertarians would be all over an argument like this one and Republicans would be against any regulation at all of the subject, similarly, the ACLU would fight against gagging any speech. So everyone should be on the side of "open tent".

Of course, I do understand that to some "free speech" really just means "... as long as I'm the guy making the speech....."

I don't have a problem with Mel's principles... only that he has publicly stated that they change depending on if he is interested in and/or can afford a particular poster.

[Harry Caul]

HC, it's too bad you dogmatically refuse to recognize that reasonable people could disagree about (1) whether pending auctions should ever be discussed or (2) whether this particular pending Irish quad auction should have been discussed. 

No Mel, over and and over again I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your actions. You have avoided that subject in every response.  I'm done.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I don't have a problem with Mel's principles... only that he has publicly stated that they change depending on if he is interested in and/or can afford a particular poster.

that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

[Cj]

that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

lol Rich!!

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

that just means that Mel stands on both sides of the fence, even though it's physiologically impossible
maybe Mel is standing with one foot on each side & the fence is riding up his nuts

More my style....

[MoviePosterBid.com]

lol

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

With 30 minutes to go, not too far from Christies auction this summer:





Off topic, but proving that movie poster auctions are minor league stuff for the big boys:

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Mel.. I don't really know why you would post a link to an original  Goldfinger Quad being auction on ebay on this list before the auction was over.

do you really think everyone would know about an original  Goldfinger Quad being auctioned if you didn't post it here for everyone to see? especially on that infant sire ebay that nobody looks at ever

[CSM]

This is too funny... I just got an eBay reminder on this poster and noticed that it was over $5K.  I was going come here to post that Mel would be returning soon to remind us that he was right all along... Looks like he beat me to it!  

Too bad he still hasn't figured out that this discussion was about the principle and not any particular poster.  I'm sure this auction will just serve to embolden his hypocrisy.  Have at it Mel... I give up.  I'm you will take that to mean you somehow 'won'... what ever that means.  

Matt, I was just going to post the same thing!  I guess 15 posts stating what the real issue was didn't get passed the hypocrisy filters.

[holiday]

Ok, repeat after me...  This is the mid AUCTION analysis thread.

By the way, though, I have only one person I know in Japan, and many of you already know him.  I have been buying EVERY b1 that he comes across for many years now, and I have paid him a fixed price for each one no matter what it is.  That said, I've bought some posters that I would not have otherwise gotten, but I have gotten some posters that no one else has, because of that relationship.

Relationships don't spring up overnight people.  They take years to develop, and consistency, and loyalty.  To this day, even the people who know my Japanese friend know that  I get first dibs on all b1's that he comes across.  That's because he never has to worry about being left holding the bag on something I don't want.

Food for thought as we talk about all this cloak and dagger bullshit.

Better yet it would be great if Holiday could post a list of his best contacts in Japan!  Or maybe in the spirit of sharing T will finally put me in touch with his sources for reasonably-priced, rare french posters?   

One more time for the cheap seats... only like 1 or 2 people have suggested closing this thread (and I'm not even sure how serious they were vs. just floating an option).  I'm not in favor of censorship... just consistency in actions and respect for other members.  Rich, feel free to continue being the exception to well-reasoned, predictable behavior! 

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

I guess 15 posts stating what the real issue was didn't get passed [past] the hypocrisy filters.

The "real issue" is that you guys intend to unleash hell on anybody who disagrees with you on this issue until you get your way.

• At the same time, I agree with Holiday/T's decision not to censor the forum -- so Mel is definitely within his rights as a forum member to post these mid-auction items -- However, it is also my right to disagree the practice each and every time he does it, even if we've had the conversation before.

[Harry Caul]

Apparently you missed my 'wink' Holiday!

[MoviePosterBid.com]

The "real issue" is that you guys intend to unleash hell on anybody who disagrees with you on this issue until you get your way.

and while I don't exactly use the same sharp language that Mel does in this case, I hope you guys realize that he's right