Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Both examples shoulda been sold as the upper 2/3rds and then been done with it.

I disagree Ben. The only comment I would have is why, as Charlie asks, a better resolution copy of the missing portion can't be obtained, but that could be an issue of no one willing to supply such an item, or that finding someone who actually has a full size scan is the issue.

[wonka]

I disagree Ben. The only comment I would have is why, as Charlie asks, a better resolution copy of the missing portion can't be obtained, but that could be an issue of no one willing to supply such an item, or that finding someone who actually has a full size scan is the issue.

Of course you disagree, but my preference would be to have most of a original three sheet than a hybrid one. IMO.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

personal preferences aside Ben, it isn't very saleable without the restoration

an excellent example of that would be the Invasion of the Body Snatchers incomplete 6 sheet that sold on ebay a few weeks back, for just $149.

all that was missing was the bottom left panel, which is all text.

granted, a top 2/3 of a Rear Window is displayable and the IOTBS 6sh missing a panel is not, but if the owner wants to make money, the solutions are obvious.

personally, I would just wait to see if I can find the missing piece and complete the poster. It's a rarity to be able to do so, but there is always that possibility.

[erik1925]

regarding the restorations, it is clear that whomever did the restoration on the one sold in December was a talentless fool while the person who did the one I'm offering was at least an artist who only used the reproduced portion as a guide for him to base his work on.

what restorer you use for such work clearly makes a difference

Just curious, Rich (and not that you need to reveal a name/company on the board; I'm not asking that)- but did the consignor let you know who did the work? Or is that not usually discussed?

I've always been curious about this, when restored pieces are consigned. Is the restorer ever mentioned for an item sent in? Or are they just sent in, and described as "restored," "touched up" or "sections or areas have been re-created" with those specific areas pointed out in the paperwork or email?

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Just curious, Rich (and not that you need to reveal a name/company on the board; I'm not asking that)- but did the consignor let you know who did the work? Or is that not usually discussed?

I've always been curious about this, when restored pieces are consigned. Is the restorer ever mentioned for an item sent in? Or are they just sent in, and described as "restored," "touched up" or "sections or areas have been re-created" with those specific areas pointed out in the paperwork or email?

He didn't know. he had a biz partner (now excommunicated) who had sent out the posters for work and no receipts were available to research any info.
When he sent them, I didn't know what they were and I had to examine them closely as I thought they were fakes until I examined at which point I called him and said "so this one is a recreated bottom, this one is a recreated top" etc and he was happy to know that I was able to  make the determination because he did know and was testing me. He cited it as a reason to send me a larger consignment

[Bruce]

It will be a great test to compare the final selling prices of two such similar posters.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

like lots of such posters where there is less support for a second copy after one has already been sold in a short time frame, the second one would rarely go for a matchable price, even if sold at the same venue.

of course, another question would be "which one is more likely to be resold soon"

I can't imagine the person who bought the first one with the God-awful restoration would be happy with it.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

What is even harder to understand is why they didn't get high resolution prints made on decent paper and then just spray the border to match.

You are correct sir.  This can be done relatively easily:

(1) Download the full-size image from Heritage (thank you Heritage for not obnoxiously watermarking images!):

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83340#Photo

(2) Crop to lower third

(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.

(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.

[CSM]

You are correct sir.  This can be done relatively easily:

(1) Download the full-size image from Heritage (thank you Heritage for not obnoxiously watermarking images!):

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7078&lotNo=83340#Photo

(2) Crop to lower third

(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.

(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.

Was this your intended solution for the Where Danger Lives three sheet?

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Was this your intended solution for the Where Danger Lives three sheet?

Yep. Most of the artwork was on the original top 2/3 and the missing 1/3 bottom was mostly text.

[crowzilla]

(3) Lower third image is 1533 pixels x 1000 pixels.  Use Photoshop Elements with Alien Skin Blow Up to expand to 6150 (H) x 4050 (V) = 41"x27" @150 DPI.
(4) Take image to commercial printer, get full size printout for $50.

How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?

It's OK, especially from further back. I combined the half sheet and one sheet for TGFH using the process I described and here's the result:

[CSM]

How does a 27"x41" print look at only 150dpi?

Has to be better than those Rear Window "artistic recreations"!

[rdavey26]

Here is a very cool piece by Durieux up for auction. It is for a charitable cause.
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/251447107237

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Has to be better than those Rear Window "artistic recreations"!

not the one I'm selling, though the previous one sold in Dec sure is an ugly dog

[CSM]

not the one I'm selling, though the previous one sold in Dec sure is an ugly dog

Rich, in my opinion, while the one you are selling is much improved over the Dec copy, it's still a long way from an accurate facsimile of the original

Just look at them all side-by-side

[MoviePosterBid.com]

did you read my description in the listing by any chance?

[CSM]

did you read my description in the listing by any chance?

Yessir - there was no implication that you were misrepresenting it in any way

I just have the opinion that the recreation could have been done far better.  I also imagine whoever did the work charged a pretty penny as well...

[MoviePosterBid.com]

"better" is a matter of perspective.

clearly the restoration done on this copy is considerably better than the copy sold by emp and I can't imagine what it would look like if Posterfix did the work.
it also looks better than the blow-up as Mel suggests unless you're never going to look at the poster up close because only a high-res same-size scan (or photograph from a cmos element hi-res camera) can produce a proper result

at the same time, it isn't being pushed as anything more than the "poor man's" treasure.
Everyone can't afford to spend $7500 or more for one so this becomes an affordable alternative,  and certainly it would sell for more than if it was just the 2/3 panel unmounted.

let us not forget that collecting is not a one-size fits all situation and movie poster collectors have a greater variety of acceptable solutions than comic book collectors.

[kovacs01]

There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.

Behold:

[erik1925]

This is truly shocking and beyond belief, every time I see it.

Ay carumba!!!!

 

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I understand she took lessons at PosterFixit

[Mirosae]

 Spanish lady and posters? Not to be trusted I say! 

[erik1925]

There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.

Maybe this same woman did that other RW 3sheet that was auctioned. Her trademark, black, beady eye retouches are the giveaway. 

[paul waines]

There is an old lady in Spain who does restorations of renaissance period frescos.  I heard she will do poster restorations for free. She is particularly skilled at faces.  She also can do recreations of those Ghanese traveling video pieces and is very reasonable with her price on those.

Behold:

This is truly shocking and beyond belief, every time I see it.

Ay carumba!!!!

 

I know, I too think the one on the left looks a bit like Bela...