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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #100 on: November 10, 2013, 03:31:17 PM »
For gods sake get over the spelling of the word fare/fair and answer questions about the actual issue.



Where did this large HA one come from without watermark as a single example? I will not bother with others as it again is obvious.


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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #101 on: November 10, 2013, 03:47:37 PM »

Now Ari, do pray tell if Nick's posts originated from New Jersey?

Mel Really?

You think Ari is going to post info like that here?

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #102 on: November 10, 2013, 04:24:20 PM »
Guys, please go out and do something else (like get laid)! You are both good guys, and there are a ton of crooks and slimeballs polluting this hobby. I bet they are laughing their heads off reading this thread.

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2013, 04:28:57 PM »
Guys, please go out and do something else (like get laid)! You are both good guys, and there are a ton of crooks and slimeballs polluting this hobby. I bet they are laughing their heads off reading this thread.
Morning Bruce  thumbup

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2013, 04:47:08 PM »
Guys, please go out and do something else (like get laid)! You are both good guys, and there are a ton of crooks and slimeballs polluting this hobby. I bet they are laughing their heads off reading this thread.

Not sure, but did Bruce just tell those two to go get f*cked?
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2013, 04:48:27 PM »
Not sure, but did Bruce just tell those two to go get f*cked?

In the spirit of this argument - maybe he meant "layed"?
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2013, 04:57:09 PM »
Not sure, but did Bruce just tell those two to go get f*cked?
You`re from the future ,you should know already. ;)

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2013, 04:57:46 PM »
In the spirit of this argument - maybe he meant "layed"?

Or if he did tell them to go get f*cked perhaps he just misspelled and meant 'get "layered'

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2013, 05:08:20 PM »
Or if he did tell them to go get f*cked perhaps he just misspelled and meant 'get "layered'

 ;D

ROFL  ;D

Guys, please go out and do something else (like get laid)! You are both good guys, and there are a ton of crooks and slimeballs polluting this hobby. I bet they are laughing their heads off reading this thread.

Bruce best comment of the entire thread! And in spirit of such, I just did and feel like a new man. It's like one of those before and after Snickers commercials.

In the spirit of such I will offer this to Mel. Let's bury the hatchet. I will leave it alone and not say any more on the subject. I think my point has been made for good or bad too many times. I will not badger, badmouth or say anything else referring to this incident on the forum. I would ask you to do the same. I would also ask that you delete the screen grab of my corporations contact information and address from your website and ask the moderators to do the same from this thread. Though it is public information I feel that it is unwarranted to publish it like it is and have refrained from doing the same with Mels home address for the same reason. It would just be bad form.

With that I have nothing further to add unless pertinent to the original thread that was started here.
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2013, 05:15:25 PM »
You guys could all get jobs as comedy writers!

Mel, PLEASE consider just letting this go now, and lets move on to the next battle, like maybe discussing why eBay refuses to stop people from selling fakes on their site. Something that would save countless noobies tons of money (and keep them from getting run out of the hobby once they learn the sad truth).

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2013, 05:45:27 PM »
I have edited some private information out of this thread.
I am astounded that Mel would post private info about a fellow member on this forum just because he is on the losing side of a copyright argument.
Bad form, counselor.
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2013, 05:48:20 PM »
Good desicion for both parties Ted.

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2013, 06:00:58 PM »
Can a one post thread (presumably locked and pinned) be created by an admin in the APF Welcome/Join section that clearly states some of the rules?

Such as comment from Holiday buried away:

"Thierry and I have made clear - or at least we thought we did - that slurs, epithets, racist comments, hate mongering and the like WILL NOT BE FUCKING TOLERATED!"

But one comment I cant find but was said was that personally identifiable information is not to be posted

 

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2013, 06:03:17 PM »
I have edited some private information out of this thread.

Thank you, this is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2013, 06:12:34 PM »
Can a one post thread (presumably locked and pinned) be created by an admin in the APF Welcome/Join section that clearly states some of the rules?

Such as comment from Holiday buried away:

"Thierry and I have made clear - or at least we thought we did - that slurs, epithets, racist comments, hate mongering and the like WILL NOT BE FUCKING TOLERATED!"

But one comment I cant find but was said was that personally identifiable information is not to be posted

 

Yes, these need to be re-posted and enforced.
I'll leave the re-posting to them and I will focus on the enforcement.

The 'personally identifiable info' you mention was in response to members posting PMs (personal messages) that were not meant to go public.  That doesn't excuse Mel's post.  That was not good.

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »
Yes, these need to be re-posted and enforced.
I'll leave the re-posting to them and I will focus on the enforcement.

The 'personally identifiable info' you mention was in response to members posting PMs (personal messages) that were not meant to go public.  That doesn't excuse Mel's post.  That was not good.


So it's perfectly OK to call somebody a criminal multiple times for posting a public domain image to entertain forum members but God forbid if you post public information that anyone can look up on whois.com?  Very logical, Ted.

And by the way Mike, don't you know that MoviePosterDB has downloaded virtually every "protected" Heritage image and sells them FOR PROFIT? Get your priorities straight.

Posterguide.org also has virtually every "protected" Heritage image.
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2013, 07:49:04 PM »
So it's perfectly OK to call somebody a criminal multiple times for posting a public domain image to entertain forum members but God forbid if you post public information that anyone can look up on whois.com?  Very logical, Ted.

Are you serious, Mel?
If people want to look up information on a person, let them go for it.
But to post it here without their prior approval is wrong.
Dead wrong.
I'm sure that Holiday and T would agree with me.




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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2013, 07:51:24 PM »
Are you serious, Mel?
If people want to look up information on a person, let them go for it.
But to post it here without their prior approval is wrong.
Dead wrong.
I'm sure that Holiday and T would agree with me.


But you avoided the question.  Is it perfectly OK to call somebody a criminal without consequences here?

Is Mel a great guy? I have no doubt he is in most respects and believe that this issue no withstanding would get along with him just fine but not on this particular one and am sorry that some people feel that it is a crusade against him. It is not. For me it is about laws that have been broken intentionally and incorrect use of the reading and intent of certain laws used to make it look OK which may make others think it is legal when it is not. Is Mel a criminal, in this particular case my personal opinion is a crime has been committed but I am not an attorney and it is for a court to decide which I am sure will not and hope for his sake never happens.
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2013, 08:06:14 PM »
Look Mel, I like you.
I think you've got your heart in the right place.
But sometimes you can be a real dickhead.

You are the master of avoiding answering specific questions.
But, in this case, I will answer you directly.

No, I do not think it is OK to call someone a "criminal" on a public forum.
And I don't believe Mike has called you that.
He asked you a question and you avoided the answer.  Repeatedly.

But, regardless, how the fuck does that exonerate you from calling him a 'troll" (which he obviously is not) and then posting personal contact info about him?
What is the adult rationale behind that behavior?

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2013, 08:22:24 PM »
 >:( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,.... 98, 99, 100

I tried, I really did. Mel it is this simple, answer the red questions or do as I offered... LET IT GO!!!

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2013, 08:42:54 PM »
Look Mel, I like you.
I think you've got your heart in the right place.
But sometimes you can be a real dickhead.


Don't you mean "five star" dickhead?

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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2013, 08:45:06 PM »
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2013, 09:10:51 PM »
The craziness began when Undead's avatar changed to double full moon... Can you change your avatar to a waterfall. Thank you.


  
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #123 on: November 10, 2013, 09:36:53 PM »
Posterguide.org also has virtually every "protected" Heritage image.

Posterguide.org does at least have an acknowledgement area (the lack thereof being a major part of the initial argument in question).  Is it sufficient?  Well everyone can keep debating...

http://www.posterguide.org/thanks.php

http://www.posterguide.org/statistics.php
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Re: Copyright and "Fair Use" - Photolaw.net
« Reply #124 on: November 10, 2013, 09:38:47 PM »
I also believe each individual poster photo posted on Posterguide.org has its source noted (i.e. Heritage/eMovie/etc)  
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