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Common Poster Subjects => Research & Collecting Tools => Topic started by: arsim on March 13, 2012, 05:23:15 AM
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Hi Guys,
I'm new here. I have a non-profit movie poster guide site at www.posterguide.org (http://www.posterguide.org).
Started it as a site for my own private use back in early 2000s, been updating it all these years on and off. Decided to upload it so that everyone could benefit.
It aims to track any and all movie posters that have been produced around the world.
Would appreciate any feedback that you could give.
Thanks,
Alex
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Very impressive endeavor, Alex. Yours may be the first public database to allow sorting by NSS number:
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/0-APF/NSS.jpg)
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Except there were no NSS numbers in 1930!
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The NSS numbers in my database are not only based on the numbers printed on posters, but on the numbers logged by the NSS for each production (which started in 1930). I am considering adding a checkbox to confirm printing of said NSS number on each poster.
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The NSS numbers in my database are not only based on the numbers printed on posters, but on the numbers logged by the NSS for each production (which started in 1930). I am considering adding a checkbox to confirm printing of said NSS number on each poster.
Is there a public database somewhere with these numbers? The only one I am aware of is the incomplete LAMP one that was compiled from the posters themselves.
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Much of it is from the list that Ed at LAMP managed to track down, plus other numbers that I have found on posters (obviously after the 30s).
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welcome1 to APF, arsim.
Cool site and impressive endeavor.
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I just had a look, very impressive. Also disheartening seeing all the Newman poster still out there for me to find.
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Looks like a great idea Alex. I had a quick search for my favourite director and there were a few errors on the listings, such as wrong versions listed and sizes. I wasn't sure if you were using a template and that information would be updated at a later date maybe?
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Very nice site!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this:
https://www.posterguide.org/posterdetails.php?pid=214828&mid=1074189
is incorrect. It states that it was a USA poster, but I thought this design was only released in Australia.
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Very nice site!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this:
http://www.movieposterguide.com/posterdetails.php?pid=158051&mid=1074189
is incorrect. It states that it was a USA poster, but I thought this design was only released in Australia.
That's not an US poster or an Aussie poster. By the way, that basic design was used in several countries (just not the US).
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Very nice site!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this:
http://www.movieposterguide.com/posterdetails.php?pid=158051&mid=1074189
is incorrect. It states that it was a USA poster, but I thought this design was only released in Australia.
You are correct -- partially. The original Ohrai design was produced for Japanese release and re-formatted for the Australian (and Argentina, India, etc.) campaign.
But, the pic used in the above-linked Movie Poster Guide database is the one-sheet size, commercial reprint sold in America. Notice how the EMPIRE logo has been moved to the lower left.?
Here is the Japanese B1/B2, the Australian one sheet and the commercial reprint in order:
(Disregard the sizes of these pics. I just grabbed em off the net.):
(http://kawaiikakkoiisugoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/star-wars-japan-poster.jpg) (http://c0.dmlimg.com/1fc1c1c2db5852e08ffc380475e26336e44886bc1423d0dd8df94c6735795cff.jpg) (http://movieposters.2038.net/p/The-Empire-Strikes-Back_1.jpg)
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Nice work Teddy!
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Very impressive endeavor, Alex.
Very cool Alex.
welcome1
Post early and often!
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Nice work Teddy!
He do be pretty good. :)
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I will correct the ESB US poster as mentioned.
Do you think that I should add a check box for commercial prints, or remove them completely from the site.
I am tempted to remove them completely.
I tried to attached a screen of the editing interface that I use on the site to set information for each poster, however it is saying upload folder full.
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I will correct the ESB US poster as mentioned.
Do you think that I should add a check box for commercial prints, or remove them completely from the site.
I am tempted to remove them completely.
I tried to attached a screen of the editing interface that I use on the site to set information for each poster, however it is saying upload folder full.
I would remove completely as they don't fit in with what you are trying to achieve with your site.
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Very nice, Alex.
Although... I feel a little bit at home on your site. Don't worry, I don't care. I just see a lot of my posters up there.
Oh, and welcome to the forum.
Thierry
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Thierry,
You are correct, and I have listed you here www.posterguide.org/thanks.php (http://www.posterguide.org/thanks.php).
If you (or anyone) finds any images that they own, and would like me to remove them, then please let me know and I will.
I'm hoping that in the spirit of the site, that people will be OK, as long as they are acknowledged on the thank you page, and the site remains free (which I can assure you, it always will).
Alex
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I would remove completely as they don't fit in with what you are trying to achieve with your site.
Agreed, I have removed the poster. I appreciate the error corrections (I'm sure there are many mistakes).
You can email corrections here if you don't want to post in the forum.
admin at movieposterguide.com
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It's Eatbrie... one word, no cap on Brie. Why do people always want to capitalize Brie?
Yeah, good job. How many posters in your database?
T
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feel free to use any images on my years old and BADLY out of date site, but theres some aussie hammer stuff here you don't have
http://www.offaleater.8k.com
the name is Ari OFFALEATER Richards (note caps in offaleater ;)
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feel free to use any images on my years old and BADLY out of date site, but theres some aussie hammer stuff here you don't have
http://www.offaleater.8k.com
the name is Ari OFFALEATER Richards (note caps in offaleater ;)
;D
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You are correct -- partially. The original Ohrai design was produced for Japanese release and re-formatted for the Australian (and Argentina, India, etc.) campaign.
But, the pic used in the above-linked Movie Poster Guide database is the one-sheet size, commercial reprint sold in America. Notice how the EMPIRE logo has been moved to the lower left.?
Here is the Japanese B1/B2, the Australian one sheet and the commercial reprint in order:
(Disregard the sizes of these pics. I just grabbed em off the net.):
(http://kawaiikakkoiisugoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/star-wars-japan-poster.jpg) (http://c0.dmlimg.com/1fc1c1c2db5852e08ffc380475e26336e44886bc1423d0dd8df94c6735795cff.jpg) (http://movieposters.2038.net/p/The-Empire-Strikes-Back_1.jpg)
Good to know! Thanks for the extra info.
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feel free to use any images on my years old and BADLY out of date site, but theres some aussie hammer stuff here you don't have
http://www.offaleater.8k.com
the name is Ari OFFALEATER Richards (note caps in offaleater ;)
Thanks Ari, have added your posters to the database.
Great collection of posters you have there.
Added you to the thank you page.
Alex
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Keep up the good work.
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Thanks Ari, have added your posters to the database.
Great collection of posters you have there.
Added you to the thank you page.
Alex
Ari, IF I had a website I would add you to the thank you page as well.
But I don't so I don't know where that leaves us?
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a tattoo will do nicely.
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I couldn't find a nice "thank you" tattoo but I thought you'd like this:
(http://montrealstateofmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/milkmaid02sm_full.jpg)
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ahh Milk Maids, if I can find a SOY Milk Maid I will be in heaven.
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feel free to use any images on my years old and BADLY out of date site, but theres some aussie hammer stuff here you don't have
http://www.offaleater.8k.com
the name is Ari OFFALEATER Richards (note caps in offaleater ;)
First time I've seen this madman's Hammer site.
Very cool, Ari!
cheers
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I have SO MANY to add, but I will save them for now ;)
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I have SO MANY to add, but I will save them for now ;)
And what are you waiting for?
Armin
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wouldn't YOU like to know, oh wait, you do ;)
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Do you want us to beg you?!?!?!
Armin
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arsim, nice work on the site mate.
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Hi Guys, Thanks for all the encouragement.
Updated a few artists in the database:
Gösta Åberg (1905 - 1981)
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=4 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=4)
Enzo Sciotti
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=162 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=162)
Luigi Martinati (1893 - 1983)
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=161 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=161)
Anselmo Ballester (1897 - 1974)
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=79 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=79)
Let me know if I have missed any posters. I would be very happy for any contributions.
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ohh I love, Enzo Sciotti, will look now, danke.
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Those artist galleries kick butt, arsim. Nice job! thumbup
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that site is awesome.
i wonder if i could make a suggestion with the artist gallery?
would it be possible to associate the artist monogram with the name so you could check if you had a poster by that artist?
are you looking for submissions for posters? if you are i have a few locandina that arent on the site. or if you need any other help?
although i am not super tech minded, so bear that in mind :)
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I like the artist thing too.
I need to point out that you have given Bill Gold credit for Bob Peaks art on My Fair Lady.
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Zorba, Thanks for the info, updated.
TeamWeapon, I will have a look at incorporating the signatures.
I would be interested in the posters that you have.
I am yet to finish the submission system, but you could email to me using the contact link at the bottom of the site.
That goes for anyone who wants to submit posters. I know it's slow for now, but I will have a submission option soon.
Thanks Guys.
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that site is awesome.
i wonder if i could make a suggestion with the artist gallery?
would it be possible to associate the artist monogram with the name so you could check if you had a poster by that artist?
are you looking for submissions for posters? if you are i have a few locandina that arent on the site. or if you need any other help?
although i am not super tech minded, so bear that in mind :)
Is this what you meant?
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=35 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=35)
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Anselmo Ballester kicks ass.
Good job Arsim!
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Is this what you meant?
http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=35 (http://movieposterguide.com/browseposter.php?browse=1&id=35)
yep thats exactly what i meant!
amazing work my freind :)
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Great idea Arsim, that's a pretty huge undertaking you've taken on!
Cheers for adding me to your thanks page too. I'll add a link back to you once I get my links page up and running.
By the way, you're more than welcome to any images from my site - let me know if you want access to better quality versions.
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I have finally implemented a submission system for the site.
All users can see the submissions straight away, however they are marked in red as non validated, until admin validates.
Simply register a username and password.
Search for a movie, then use the ADD POSTER LINK found next to the title.
You can monitor your submissions using the submission link on the left hand menu.
Testing it out at the moment, so I would love some feedback.
www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com)
Thanks Alex
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I have finally implemented a submission system for the site.
All users can see the submissions straight away, however they are marked in red as non validated, until admin validates.
Simply register a username and password.
Search for a movie, then use the ADD POSTER LINK found next to the title.
You can monitor your submissions using the submission link on the left hand menu.
Testing it out at the moment, so I would love some feedback.
www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com)
Thanks Alex
hi can i ask what kind of pic you would prefer?
by that i mean corrected/cleaned up or just raw and how the photo looks?
i should have time this week to sort through some fairly not so special pictures for you :)
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I have finally implemented a submission system for the site.
All users can see the submissions straight away, however they are marked in red as non validated, until admin validates.
Simply register a username and password.
Search for a movie, then use the ADD POSTER LINK found next to the title.
You can monitor your submissions using the submission link on the left hand menu.
Testing it out at the moment, so I would love some feedback.
www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com)
Thanks Alex
Excellent...will give me something to do on the slow days at work.
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I have finally implemented a submission system for the site.
All users can see the submissions straight away, however they are marked in red as non validated, until admin validates.
Simply register a username and password.
Search for a movie, then use the ADD POSTER LINK found next to the title.
You can monitor your submissions using the submission link on the left hand menu.
Testing it out at the moment, so I would love some feedback.
www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com)
Thanks Alex
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Stew
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i just registered and tried to sign in but it says its failed?
do i need a confirmation email?
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i just registered and tried to sign in but it says its failed?
do i need a confirmation email?
It no work....
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Works fine for me. I just logged in.
But then again, the ladies always said I had a 'special touch'... wynk
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hi can i ask what kind of pic you would prefer?
by that i mean corrected/cleaned up or just raw and how the photo looks?
i should have time this week to sort through some fairly not so special pictures for you :)
Not fussy about the picture. I'm happy to have something of lower quality in there, rather than nothing at all for that title.
I also have a cropping interface when I approve the images, so I can take care of that side of things.
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i just registered and tried to sign in but it says its failed?
do i need a confirmation email?
Hey guys, what did it say when it failed?
remember you need to sign in with your email, not your username.
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Hey guys, what did it say when it failed?
remember you need to sign in with your email, not your username.
i think it said
"SEAN IS STUPID, PLEASE KICK HIM IN THE HEAD!"
it was me and nothing wrong with the log in what so ever DOH!
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i think it said
"SEAN IS STUPID, PLEASE KICK HIM IN THE HEAD!"
(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/Bruce_Lee_kick.gif)
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One other thing to try, for those of you who have registered.
When you click on a poster and view the details, you will see a link that says 'Add to Owned List'.
This allows you to catalogue your collection. If there is a poster missing, you can now submit it and add it to you collection.
Your collection can be viewed using the Owned posters list found on the left hand menu on every page.
Other people can also view you collection by using the Members link on the left hand menu.
You can post a direct link to your collection on any forum or website.
Thanks Guys,
Alex
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Hey Guys,
There might be some disruption of the site over the next few days, as I am moving to a faster semi-dedicated host. The old one was just too slow.
Thanks,
Alex
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Hi Everyone,
I have almost finished moving the website to the semi dedicated host.
In the process of uploading 30GB of data (Large Images), but as of now, the site will function as normal (thumbs only, no medium or large images).
Having issues transferring the old domain away from the old host, so the new address is: www.posterguide.org (http://www.posterguide.org)
I will redirect to this domain from the old address, but please update your links for the future.
Will be away for 3 weeks from Sunday, but feel free to contribute your submissions, and I will approve them ASAP.
Thanks,
Alex
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Ok, Finally finished transferring.
Hopefully you guys will notice the speed difference.
Would appreciate any submissions.
Thank,
Alex
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I would suggest you have a banner somewhere or something that requests submitters NOT to submit anything unless they have paper in hand otherwise you are going to end up with people submitting digital images like movieposterdb.com which is practically worthless for a reference site because of all those images which do not exist as a poster.
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Thanks for all the support I have received from you guys.
One individual has taken issue to the site. He is a pioneer in the research field.
I have tried to reason with him but he has done nothing but patronize and ridicule me.
I want to present my side of the story.
I started this site as a private server (for me only, not public use).
As such, I did not think to credit each individual image to the sites that they came from. When I made the impulsive decision to put the site online, I quickly threw together a thank you page with a list of sites that photos had been sourced from.
As pointed out by a number of dealers, I should have asked permission before putting the site online. I totally agree with this, and feel very bad that I did not do so.
Over the next month (currently on holiday), I will be contacting everyone to ask for access. I will be adding links back to the image providers site on a per image basis (unless the dealer/collector does not require this)
I hope everyone understands that my intentions were good.
Once again, I apologize, and please let me know if you would like your images removed.
Thanks,
Alex
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Good for you, Alex.
I'd sure like to know the name of the knucklehead that has patronized and ridiculed you.
He/she should get a life.
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He/she should get a life.
+1
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Presumably he's referring to Ed Poole (LAMP).
Alex, just tell them all to go to hell and follow the Wikipedia model, which is the gold standard of non-profit websites. For movie posters Wikipedia doesn't credit image sources, it only credits the copyright owners, the movie studios.
Your thanks page (http://www.posterguide.org/thanks.php) is sufficient to credit the image sources.
By the way, virtually all those poster dealers massively cheat on their taxes, so don't shed any tears for them. And Goodfella is a joke. He tried to set up a FOR PROFIT movie poster authentication site.
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/Pulp-Fiction.jpg)
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Alex, just tell them all to go to hell and follow the Wikipedia model, which is the gold standard of non-profit websites. For movie posters Wikipedia doesn't credit image sources, it only credits the copyright owners, the movie studios.
Your thanks page (http://www.posterguide.org/thanks.php) is sufficient to credit the image sources.
Right on, counselor.
cheers
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Mel wrote: "virtually all those poster dealers massively cheat on their taxes"
Why virtually and not all? Is it because you know I am 100% honest on my taxes?
And how about lawyers? Do you have any generalizations you want to make about them? Or how about people of color?
Stick to what you know and can prove.
Incidentally, is it fine with you if Ed copies all the material you have created for your sites (images and text) and adds it unattributed to HIS site? If not, why not?
Bruce
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Everyone stretches the truth on their taxes. It's the American Way!
Well, everyone who actually CAN cheat. People who have a simple W2, standard deductions/allowances and file a 1040EZ can't really.
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Mel wrote: "virtually all those poster dealers massively cheat on their taxes."
Why virtually and not all? Is it because you know I am 100% honest on my taxes?
And how about lawyers? Do you have any generalizations you want to make about them? Or how about people of color?
Stick to what you know and can prove.
Incidentally, is it fine with you if Ed copies all the material you have created for your sites (images and text) and adds it unattributed to HIS site? If not, why not?
Bruce
Well put, Bruce. clap clap
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Mel wrote: "virtually all those poster dealers massively cheat on their taxes"
Why virtually and not all? Is it because you know I am 100% honest on my taxes?
And how about lawyers? Do you have any generalizations you want to make about them? Or how about people of color?
Stick to what you know and can prove.
Incidentally, is it fine with you if Ed copies all the material you have created for your sites (images and text) and adds it unattributed to HIS site? If not, why not?
Bruce
Most small businesses cheat on their taxes. That's just a fact, Bruce. According to this article (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/01/18/Small-Business-Tax-Cheats-A-$122-Billion-Problem.aspx#page1), small businesses cheat the IRS $122 billion every year, approximately 1/3 of the tax cheating in this country. Small law firms are just as bad as any other small business. Consequently, wage earners like me - who cannot hide their income or inflate cost of goods sold or make dubious business deductions - end up paying a higher share of the taxes than they should.
Ed and anybody else can take any movie poster image off my sites without permission or credit because those images are legally reproductions of copyrighted works or of formerly copyrighted works that have fallen into the public domain, so I have zero ownership right in them. I could care less anyway. The physical poster is what is important, not the image.
Likewise movie poster dealers and consignees have no ownership interest in images of movie posters. They have a temporary right per Section 109 of the US Copyright Act to post an image of the poster so long as the poster is available for sale. That right terminates when the physical poster is sold.
By contrast, as you should know, the text on your site and mine is an original work, is automatically copyrighted, and cannot be copied without permission. So you're comparing oranges and apples.
"People of color." You're just going off on a wild goose chase on that one.
Back on topic: Alex's website is a huge public service to the hobby and should be commended, not attacked.
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Hi Guys,
I'm new here. I have a non-profit movie poster guide site at www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com).
Started it as a site for my own private use back in early 2000s, been updating it all these years on and off. Decided to upload it so that everyone could benefit.
It aims to track any and all movie posters that have been produced around the world.
Would appreciate any feedback that you could give.
Thanks,
Alex
Sweet! Nice job!
One problem though... registered for your site and it won't let me enter enough characters on the login screen for the password I registered with. Maybe this is why others were having problems too?
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Sweet! Nice job!
One problem though... registered for your site and it won't let me enter enough characters on the login screen for the password I registered with. Maybe this is why others were having problems too?
Ok, should be fixed now, thanks for finding this.
Alex
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Ok, should be fixed now, thanks for finding this.
Alex
Yep... fixed now. :)
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Despite all the broughaha, it's ironic that LAMP actually has a very sensible and correct fair use & copyright policy on its own website (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/admin/LAMPDisclaimer.asp):
LAMP Disclaimer
Materials on any of the Learn About Network websites are offered as a contribution to education.
Transmission or reproduction of protected items may require the written permission of copyright owners. However, the nature of archival collections is such that copyright may often be difficult to determine. The appropriate use of this information rests with the patron.
Since the Learn About Network does not maintain any records of rights, we cannot give or deny permission to publish or distribute information displayed on our websites. It is the user's obligation to determine and satisfy copyright or other use restrictions when publishing or otherwise distributing materials from the Learn About Network.
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So just to clarify, Mel, Ed can take all the IMAGES of originals and repros from your site http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/Authentications.html and write his own text, and then present those authenications as his own? And if not, why not?
Bruce
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So just to clarify, Mel, Ed can take all the IMAGES of originals and repros from your site http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/Authentications.html and write his own text, and then present those authentications as his own? And if not, why not?
Bruce
Absolutely. Sharing and widespread dissemination of authentications benefits the hobby. I'm sure Dan disagrees, but I think it's ridiculous to demand "credit" for an authentication. The goal is to get the correct information out there (or at least as correct as reasonably possible) and prevent collectors from being ripped off.
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OK. I will let Ed know he can instantly add a major authentication section to his fine site while doing minimal work, and through omitting any reference to you, can pass it off as his own research. Please be sure to notify him and anyone else who might want to take advantage of your future efforts as well when you make any additions!
Bruce
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Here is Ed's final response (earlier ones are even ruder)
The funny thing is that I didn't use any info directly from the lamp site.
All printer detail were obtained from the images.
I am never going to get his support, possibly because he charges for his site.
Hopefully I can get support from the dealers out there.
Bruce, you've been around the longest and have probably seen just about everything.
What's your view?
Alex,
I know that you are out of the country and can’t respond in depth…. But maybe you can at least read. As far as I’m concerned this will be my last attempt at explaining our position. You either don’t get it or don’t WANT to get it.
You TAKE images from other peoples sites. You TAKE information from sites around the internet THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE CORRECT (you wouldn’t know!!). You TAKE our restricted LAMP information and then ignore when I tell you. Some that you picked are rare printers (that I pointed out by NAME) that it is doubtful that a collector would EVER have need of. Those in particular are for use with auction houses and museums that handle early silent material.
I tried to MAKE THE POINT that you don’t know anything about research when you COPIED the WRONG NSS information from Moviegoods. I used this as an example because their mis-information is so BLATANTLY RIDICULOUS, AND YOU DIDN’T EVEN HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO CATCH IT!. You ALREADY have at least another dozen areas that are WRONG in your research. TWO of them were intentionally set up by us to show when people are copying our information.
You say, “I am a collector myself, and I love the hobby. That was my sole motivation for starting the site”.
WAIT… WAIT!!! THAT GIVES ME A GREAT IDEA!!
I bet you and your friends ALL have cars that you like…. Why not make a few trips down to your local mechanic shop. You can COPY his Certifications (that he spent a lifetime learning and acquiring). THEN, you can HACK into his manuals and records and PUT UP A FREE MECHANIC SHOP!!!! YOUR FRIENDS WILL LOVE IT!!
NO WAIT… A BETTER IDEA!!
Your family and friends ALL want to be healthy…. Why not make a few trips down to your doctors office.. You can COPY his Diplomas (that he spent his life learning and acquiring)…. You can then HACK into his medical books and open a FREE Medical and Surgical office!!! YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL REALLY LOVE THAT!!!
AND, if you talk REAL NICE, I BET the doctor and mechanic would come out and endorse YOUR PROJECTS, since you are doing it FOR THE GOOD of medicine and mechanic-dom, From MY perspective, that is EXACTLY what you’re doing.
Having a fan site and putting up images and sorting them by all kinds of directions is GREAT until you try to move into REFERENCE…. THEN, you start affecting monetary decisions of collectors, dealers, and auction houses. And when you don’t know what you’re doing or are relying on questionable material, instead, you create more confusion, lack of understanding and growth. This can only have a DISASTEROUS EFFECT on the hobby, but sadly, you will be applauded by all the internet leeches, UNTIL YOU AFFECT THEIR POCKETBOOK. THEN, they will turn on you in a minute…. Take a good look at probably THE BEST poster restorer in the hobby… John Davis, when he stepped outside of his expertise to put up a reference and authentication site, and tried to ‘HELP THE HOBBY’. Now, he’d have a hard time being an expert witness in a traffic court.
Programmers have GREAT power. I know, my son-in-law is a master programmer for the U.S. Navy, and he can do some miraculous things. There were no truer words that those spoken in Spiderman, “with power comes great responsibility”. Just because you CAN doesn’t mean that you SHOULD, especially when it comes to someone’s decision making about investing their money or not, or conflicts between what you present and the descriptions given by the auction houses or other dealers. Especially when YOU DON’T KNOW!! And it’s OBVIOUS that YOU DON’T.
In this environment of ‘snatch and claim’, when it comes to research, there should be limits. And compiling information from varieties of QUESTIONABLE SOURCES to present as reference is a TRAIN-WRECK waiting to happen.
In your letter, you said, “I want to have yours and other dealers support, otherwise there is no reason to do the site.” - YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING
You will get support from the forums that want everything free. So I highly doubt that you are going to listen. I figure that you are going to do whatever you are going to do….
And I’m done talking.
I WANT LAMP and ANYTHING ELSE FROM LAMP REMOVED FROM YOUR WEBSITE. Let the train-wreck commence!!!
As for Dealers images, you will have to take that up with the individual sources. DON’T TAKE THEM FROM LAMP!!!
I will be sending copies of this email out to all our dealers and members.
P.S. If you REALLY want to use your compiling skills, and since you are vacationing in Vietnam, why not compile Middle Eastern material. India, Iran, Iraq, China, Vietnam and surrounding areas are ALL losing their entire film history and culture… and NO ONE is trying to save it. In that arena, ANYTHING would be better than NOTHING.
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Here's my view:
On all images that come from my site, I would like a small credit & link below it, like LAMP does (here is an example: http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=39145 (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=39145))
You would be doing all visitors to your site a service, since they would then be more quickly able to discover OUR database, which has much information and images yours doesn't.
What do you say?
Bruce
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Here's my view:
On all images that come from my site, I would like a small credit & link below it, like LAMP does (here is an example: http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=39145 (http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/poster.asp?pid=39145))
You would be doing all visitors to your site a service, since they would then be more quickly able to discover OUR database, which has much information and images yours doesn't.
What do you say?
Bruce
Sounds good to me.
Will attend to this on my return
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Great!
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Here is Ed's final response (earlier ones are even ruder)
The funny thing is that I didn't use any info directly from the lamp site.
Ed went off the deep end in that response. And for no good reason because most collectors would say your site is very different from LAMP. Yours is just an image database.
Crediting image sources may or may not be a good idea to placate the dealers, but you're going to go bonkers linking 60,000 images to their sources. If Wikipedia doesn't credit image sources, why should you waste your time doing it? Your general Thanks page is sufficient IMHO.
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Ed went off the deep end in that response. And for no good reason because most collectors would say your site is very different from LAMP. Yours is just an image database.
Crediting image sources may or may not be a good idea to placate the dealers, but you're going to go bonkers linking 60,000 images to their sources. If Wikipedia doesn't credit image sources, why should you waste your time doing it? Your general Thanks page is sufficient IMHO.
I want to have the dealers on side, as they are the ones who spent the time photographing the posters.
I will do an image match based on resolution, a lot of the dealers use a distinct resolution for their images, so I hope this will reduce the time somewhat.
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It's easy to tell mine, because most have our watermark. There are many others where someone scanned one of my book images and that scan is now there, but I only want credit for the many that came directly from my site (and there are LOTS of them).
Bruce
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That's quite an email.
I can see his point on certain issues, but others....
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Ok I have implemented the image provider function on the site.
It was a little hard to program this on an iPad, but I managed to get it done.
See the following links for emovieposter examples:
http://posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=14&id=9 (http://posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=14&id=9)
http://posterguide.org/posterdetails.php?pid=215634&mid=742962 (http://posterguide.org/posterdetails.php?pid=215634&mid=742962)
Providers can also be accessed from the left hand menu.
Obviously these sections will be expanded on my return from holidays.
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That's great! I suggest you ask places in the future before you start copying images, and if you only use the ones from the sites that say it is fine, then you will have no hassles on the image front in the future, and almost every site will be happy to cooperate (because it will help them as well as you by getting them more visitors), so it will be a "win/win" situation.
As to info, there are the issues Ed raises. But we at eMoviePoster.com only use information we gain first hand from seeing it on a poster (litho number, artist, etc). The biggest problem with using other people's info is that there is a TON of inaccurate info out there, and you risk having lots and lots of errors on your site if you just take what you find (or worse yet, if you let people submit info).
Do you remember the early days of Wikipedia? Anyone could go on at any time and change what was there! Of course, that didn't work out at all, and had to be changed.
Bruce
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Did they change Wikipedia?
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Yes. You used to be able to go onto ANY page and change it massively. I could put that Barack Obama is a Muslim and a Terrorist, and that info would be there until someone else removed it. Obviously, that created a place that pranksters started bombarding with false info. I don't know exactly how it works now, but it is far more controlled than in those early days.
Bruce
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I made changes to a number of pages, I admit I haven't tried recently.
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The problem I have with the site is that there is incorrect information about some of the posters listed. In the rush to hoover up images checking poster information seems to have been overlooked. Isn't it then just like movieposterdb if it's inaccurate?
I don't have a site with images but I don't know how I'd feel if I did and they were randomly taken. Didn't Adam ask for James Bond poster images to be submitted to his site awhile ago. That seemed to annoy people back then.
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The problem I have with the site is that there is incorrect information about some of the posters listed. In the rush to hoover up images checking poster information seems to have been overlooked. Isn't it then just like movieposterdb if it's inaccurate?
I don't have a site with images but I don't know how I'd feel if I did and they were randomly taken. Didn't Adam ask for James Bond poster images to be submitted to his site awhile ago. That seemed to annoy people back then.
If you had to enter 60000 posters one at a time over 8 years, I'm sure you would have mistakes too. I worked with the information available at the time. The idea of the submission system is to allow members to suggest corrections for mistakes, and to submit new posters for review. I do review many existing posters quite often.
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If you had to enter 60000 posters one at a time over 8 years, I'm sure you would have mistakes too.
I have been trying to put my website together of around 300 rephotographed posters, each with about 4 photos each. It has been around a year now and I am knackered after adding 50. I dont know how I'll ever complete it.
60000, over 8 years, one at a time is some serious dedication.
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I'm not questioning dedication (which is obviously to be admired) just accuracy. If you set up a database like this I think it's important, otherwise just go and visit movieposterdb.com Maybe less posters with accurate descriptions would have been better. But as I said before, I admire the effort.
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I have been trying to put my website together of around 300 rephotographed posters, each with about 4 photos each. It has been around a year now and I am knackered after adding 50. I dont know how I'll ever complete it.
60000, over 8 years, one at a time is some serious dedication.
Ha ha - this chimes well with me too, I'm doing the same and it's hard work! So kudos to arsim
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I'm not questioning dedication (which is obviously to be admired) just accuracy. If you set up a database like this I think it's important, otherwise just go and visit movieposterdb.com Maybe less posters with accurate descriptions would have been better. But as I said before, I admire the effort.
I wonder if it is a matter of a couple of your favorites having some information you question. Why not simply help arsim by reviewing and suggesting corrections, rather than trashing him in the forum? It still seems much better than nothing, and I applaud the effort.
Even Bruce has occasional issues, which are corrected by his members. Can't help it with any large undertaking.
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Definitely Jay! We have a real ARMY of people who correct mistakes we make. They see that we have a real love of the stuff, and go to great lengths to research stuff that is only of interest to historians and major film buffs, and that makes them much more willing to take the time to help.
Also, we correct every error (even after the fact) and we make notes in our massive database to prevent it from happening again.
When you see a company auction a fake as real five times, and each time you let them know, and then they do it a sixth time, what is the incentive to contact them?
We have now sold items from over 65,000 different movies, which is pretty staggering when you think about it! Whenever I see an item from a movie we have never sold anything on, I try to list it, even if it is likely to sell for $1, because that will be one more movie represented.
Bruce
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I wonder if it is a matter of a couple of your favorites having some information you question. Why not simply help arsim by reviewing and suggesting corrections, rather than trashing him in the forum? It still seems much better than nothing, and I applaud the effort.
Even Bruce has occasional issues, which are corrected by his members. Can't help it with any large undertaking.
I'm not trashing anyone, but I apologise if I've offended your sensibilities.
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I'm not trashing anyone, but I apologise if I've offended your sensibilities.
Uh, you're in the wrong place. The ass of the month competition is going on in the other thread.
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Uh, you're in the wrong place. The ass of the month competition is going on in the other thread.
I guess I'll make a late entry, I assume you're already in there ;)
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Cool! Yet another fight that will undoubtedly go on for pages and pages!
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It's like being back at School!
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I didn't think Skyjackers trashed anyone.
He said he admired arsim's effort.
I think Jay just misses the fighting.
Here you go, Jay...
(http://www.rave.ca/en/image/full/437751/)
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Guess I read too much into it. Sorry.
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No problem cheers and sorry Bruce, no fight today!
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I'll survive!
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Hi Everyone.
It's been a while since I've posted.
I have developed a new interface for the site.
It's not finished yet, but I would love some feedback.
http://posterguide.org/newindex.php (http://posterguide.org/newindex.php)
Thanks.
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Bump.
Pretty cool site and the only website to see posters arranged by NSS number:
http://www.posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=8
Example: NSS 1940 posters
http://www.posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=8&id=40
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Thanks Mel, been hard at work trying to improve the accuracy of the site (people's main criticism - you never get any praise!).
Recently added a new slideshow feature for any page of posters that you are browsing (only when registered/logged in, as high res images are restricted to people that have registered).
Added a forum as well, so that people can contribute research, or suggest new features.
Still looking for people out there to contribute photos of rare posters. Information about artists is also much appreciated.
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How does one get listed in your links section?
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Hi Bruce,
The links page is a bit of a rough trial.
I have added you to it now, however I will soon be making it look a bit better.
Thanks again for allowing me to use your images.
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That was really quick! It is great when the owner is also a programmer!
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This site is really outstanding. If you haven't checked it out lately, you should.
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It's not bad really (and it's nice that most of the poster pics listed there are referenced as to their origin in some way). By no means exhaustive but a good reference contingent on need and area collected
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Hey guys, added a new section called US 1 Sheet Collections
See here: http://posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=24 (http://posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=24)
I am currently focusing on 1 sheet poster releases through to 1939.
The aim is to improve the accuracy of the site.
Thanks, Alex.
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Very cool to see all that vintage stuff in one spot.
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I'll bump this again and encourage everyone to sign up for www.posterguide.org.
This is the link to register:
https://www.posterguide.org/register.php
It is quickly becoming the database that this hobby needs, similar to the ExpressoBeans database that is available for prints.
After you register, look up a poster you own, click on "Add to Owned "and you can easily monitor the extent of your collection. Here's part of my collection, for example:
https://posterguide.org/browseposter.php?browse=15&id=32
This is much easier than finding your own images and uploading them to Flickr or creating your own website.
You can also enter the price you paid for your posters and keep track of their value.
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Great resource indeed! Love the Belgian North by Northwest posted in the member collection.Under the name Andydo.Never seen it....cool!
Anthony
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Yes. It is a great site. ''We live again'' US OS (Fredric March/ Mamoulian Film) is a great poster.. posted by someone called Arsim who seem to have a huge collection :o
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Arsim is the bloke who runs the site.
I think.
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Just signed up. Really cool resource. I'm going to blow many hours there I'm sure.
There should be an "Add to wish list" option.
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I didn't think Skyjackers trashed anyone.
He said he admired arsim's effort.
I think Jay just misses the fighting.
Here you go, Jay...
(http://www.rave.ca/en/image/full/437751/)
HAHAHAHAHAH laugh1
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I have finally implemented a submission system for the site.
All users can see the submissions straight away, however they are marked in red as non validated, until admin validates.
Simply register a username and password.
Search for a movie, then use the ADD POSTER LINK found next to the title.
You can monitor your submissions using the submission link on the left hand menu.
Testing it out at the moment, so I would love some feedback.
www.movieposterguide.com (http://www.movieposterguide.com)
Thanks Alex
Hi Alex, is your site still up and running? I just tried to log on, and nothing popped up, aside form my browser saying it was trying to connect to your site, and then that the server was taking too long to respond. :-\
Jeff
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Hi Jeff, Yes it is still running.
It's hosted in Australia, so perhaps there is some internet traffic issue.
Alex
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Thanks, Alex. I will try again today. I knew it was based in AU, but it was the fact that it never loaded on several tries that had me ask.
Good to know you still have it in service. It's a Great site. clap clap
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Hi Jeff, Yes it is still running.
It's hosted in Australia, so perhaps there is some internet traffic issue.
Alex
I can not get the site to load either?!? waiting1 It just times out. pctrash
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I can not get the site to load either?!? waiting1 It just times out. pctrash
Same here.
The page still doesnt load for me either, and Firefox says "connecting to movieposterguide.com" but nothing happens, until it times out, saying the page is taking too long to respond.
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Hi Guys,
Sorry I had two addresses.
The correct one to use is www.posterguide.org
Bookmarks will still work, but you will have to substitute the above for the old domain.
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Hi Guys,
Sorry I had two addresses.
The correct one to use is www.posterguide.org
Bookmarks will still work, but you will have to substitute the above for the old domain.
Great, Alex. Thanks!
The new address works like a charm!
I also amended your very first post in this thread, to reflect the new domain, so that anyone seeing this thread for the first time and reading from page one, will also be able to log onto your site immediately.
cheers
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The correct one to use is www.posterguide.org
Funny if images were taken from Poster Nirvana (USA) site as listed on the Thanks page (https://www.posterguide.org/thanks.php). Sweet justice!
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Great site.
Only gripe is that APF isn't on the 'links' page.
Hint....hint...
wynk
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Hi Guys,
Sorry I had two addresses.
The correct one to use is www.posterguide.org
Bookmarks will still work, but you will have to substitute the above for the old domain.
Just giving fellow APFer Arsim's poster-info site a little bump.gif
www.posterguide.org
He's got a ton of great info here, including printers, artists (and some of their signatures), years they worked, poster images and more.
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A little update bump with the current URL for Arsim's awesome poster site: bump.gif
http://www.posterguide.org:81/
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This site is insanely great but underpromoted. I'm gonna send an email to the MOPO group promoting it.
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Arsim's great site, PosterGuide.org deserves another bump as it really is a fantastic poster resource. bump.gif
http://www.posterguide.org:81/
(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3937.0;attach=7585;image)
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Good reminder Jeff.
Sent an email to Arsim since he hasn't update the site recently.
Tip/trick: To download XL images from the site:
- Register
- Login
- Find the item and:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202017-11-06%20at%2012.24.35%20PM_zpsf8yy3eey.jpg)
http://www.posterguide.org:81/posterdetails.php?pid=136780&mid=711890 (http://www.posterguide.org:81/posterdetails.php?pid=136780&mid=711890)
http://www.posterguide.org:81/postersLarge/136780.jpg (http://www.posterguide.org:81/postersLarge/136780.jpg)
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Reminder du jour! www.posterguide.org:81 (http://www.posterguide.org:81) "outshines the sun"! Excuse my hyperbole but IMO it is the "gold medal winner" for educational movie poster (MP) websites but few collectors have "enjoyed" its radiance. It offers extraordinarily-detailed information (country, genre, year, size, artist(!), known copies(!), distributor, image source, etc) and images for:
+ 52,504(!) US MPs (http://www.posterguide.org:81/browseposter.php?browse=12&id=1), inc. NSS number (first/only site to list this)
+ 2,734 UK "film" posters (http://www.posterguide.org:81/browseposter.php?browse=12&id=9)
+ 5,813 French "affiches de cinéma" (i.e. MPS) (http://www.posterguide.org:81/browseposter.php?browse=12&id=12)
+ 5,698 Aussies (http://www.posterguide.org:81/browseposter.php?browse=12&id=15)
+ 49(!) other countries
(http://www.posterguide.org:81/browseposter.php?browse=12)
*****
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-04-16%20at%204.37.21%20AM_zps7qn7e3m4.jpg)
*****
Professional website designer and MP afficianado Alex (from Eastern Europe) spent countless hours solo developing the size but has been incommunicado since March 2017 unfortunately. Be mindful of some erroneous info/images but that's inevitable for such a "ginormous" website. Enjoy, explore, and promote it to your poster pals!
P.S. To access XL images you must log-in but since you cannot currently register email me (moviepostercollectors@gmail.com) to borrow my log-in info.
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-04-16%20at%204.47.18%20AM_zpsexptgpcr.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-04-16%20at%204.41.46%20AM_zpsl51usur8.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-04-16%20at%204.37.57%20AM_zps6lss2umi.jpg)
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Reminder du jour! www.posterguide.org:81 (http://www.posterguide.org:81) "outshines the sun"! Excuse my hyperbole but IMO it is the "gold medal winner" for educational movie poster (MP) websites but few collectors have "enjoyed" its radiance. It offers extraordinarily-detailed information (country, genre, year, size, artist(!), known copies(!), distributor, image source, etc) and images:
Mel is correct (for once?).
This site is the reference the hobby really needs and everyone should contribute to it.
While it might be true that LAMP contains more raw data, LAMP was apparently put on the web in 1996, hasn't changed it's look or coding since then, and pretty much makes any useful information on the site impossible to find.
Very impressive work to be the result of a single person, and unlike LAMP he isn't beholden to any "sponsors".
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Just to correct something that was said above above about registration being disabled...
Registering to access Arsim's full site is still "alive and well," so anyone is still able to sign up if they would like to.
To be sure of this, I just went onto the site, put in my info, quickly created a account and logged on.
Just click here: http://www.posterguide.org:81/register.php
You'll be brought to this page to put in your info. Hit the "submit" button, and voila, you're in. cool1
(https://i.imgur.com/rEKi33H.png)
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Hi Everyone. I'm still around.
Thanks for the encouraging comments.
Not updating the site as often these days, due to heavy work commitments.
A few corrections RE previous postings.
I'm actually from Australia.
I'm no web designer, but rather own a home automation / home theatre installation business.
The site is long overdue for a refresh, particularly the registration interface.
I'll see what I can do. In the mean time, I will continue to do minor updates to the content.
If you have any data corrections, feel free to post them.
Thanks,
Alex
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Hi Everyone. I'm still around.
Thanks for the encouraging comments.
Not updating the site as often these days, due to heavy work commitments.
A few corrections RE previous postings.
I'm actually from Australia.
I'm no web designer, but rather own a home automation / home theatre installation business.
The site is long overdue for a refresh, particularly the registration interface.
I'll see what I can do. In the mean time, I will continue to do minor updates to the content.
If you have any data corrections, feel free to post them.
Thanks,
Alex
Good to know all is well with you, Alex.
And his site deserves another "hit" since it is filled with so much useful info and imagery. thumbsup.gif
http://www.posterguide.org:81/index.php
(https://i.imgur.com/0ZmfJ6R.jpg)