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Common Poster Subjects => Auction House, Dealer & Other Seller Experiences => Topic started by: ladeda on August 06, 2020, 12:09:34 AM
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Hello all! Long time no see. i hope collecting has bought some comfort this wild year.
I hate to be posting anything like this but I thought it was responsible of me to share a pretty shockingly awful situation with a 'respected' dealer.
In mid-2018 (June) I sent approximately 22 posters to Cory Glaberson to sell on my behalf. The deal was simple. He'd pay $350 upfront, anything he'd make over $700 would be split evenly.
He did indeed pay the initial $350. I received a single update that four posters had sold a couple month later. Then.. silence. I had emailed numerous times asking for updates. All ignored. Not a single reply received. The lone update I received was in August 2018.
Now exactly two years have passed. I'm out of pocket and posters, while Reel Art Posters/Collectables are still very much active on ebay and elsewhere.
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That situation sounds very poor. Maybe call him?
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That situation sounds very poor. Maybe call him?
Tried that to no avail too.
I'm more disappointed than anything else. I don't collect high ticket items so much of my experience was built on mutual trust with sellers, dealers and collectors because why go through the effort of stealing a couple hundred $ worth of paper.
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Then you have no choice than to call cops unless he decides to play fair and give you the posters back
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When you say you tried to call him, what does that mean? No phone #, he doesn't answer or he told u to fuck off? Where is he located? Does he have a phone number? I don't know the person, so I don't really understand what's happening.
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When you say you tried to call him, what does that mean? No phone #, he doesn't answer or he told u to fuck off? Where is he located? Does he have a phone number? I don't know the person, so I don't really understand what's happening.
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Yeah, no answer. I have the number he provided when I shipped out the posters. He's located in Berwyn, Illinois.
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Sorry to hear that :( the lack of communication must be very annoying.
Are the other posters you sent him still listed for sale on his sites?
As phone and email haven't worked, I assume no reply if you try and message him through ebay too?
Do you have links to his website and ebay account? Might be useful to post in this thread so folk are aware.
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He has 2 numbers listed on his website. Seems odd to be in business but not answer the phone. Maybe he can see your number and not answer? In that case try calling from a different phone? He has a business Facebook page, maybe post there?
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Yeah, no answer. I have the number he provided when I shipped out the posters. He's located in Berwyn, Illinois.
Yeah, he does have a website (https://www.reelartcollectibles.com/ (https://www.reelartcollectibles.com/)) and seems legit. It's crazy that he would not answer.
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I had been trying his personal cell. I've given messaging through ebay another go and I'll try the store number too. Wish me luck!
That website is new too. They had the time to overhaul a whole website but not reply to a message? It's inexcusable.
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Lots of crooks out there. Another reason why I pretty much never buy from dealers and stick to the few sellers I trust.
T
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Let us know ladeda. We often underestimate the strength of our little community here. I don't count myself among them, but a lot of known collectors and dealers on here. We can easily shame poster scammers through social media, word of mouth, etc. Push come shove send him the link to this thread and tell him some poster heavy hitters are stirring up some chat about his little escapade with your paper...and we aren't impressed.
Heck I bet Rich - wherever he may be - has him on speed dial! Reelart, don't make us call in a favour with Rich.
Ten bucks says he responds. Of course, poor bastard @reelart might just be laid up with covid somewhere...
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When they dont reply i just notify cops as i dont want to waste time calling/emailing if they ignore me , now if cops have the time is another issue
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Oh nice, you don't want to waste your own precious time so you waste the cops' time instead on stupid posters. You right, they have nothing better to do these days. Is Jeff in shackles yet?
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I mean, I'm not even in the same continent and I don't think interpol would be interested somehow.
Got fuck all response from my most recent attempts of contact. Expected, but still maddening seeing how active they are.
It still makes zero sense to me why a dealer who handles so much paper would bother to screw someone over some inconsequential posters. They weren't worth much to begin with. Or maybe because they're insignificant he thought it'd be acceptable to do this. Either way, fucking asshole.
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He also has a personal Facebook page which he has been posting to recently. Maybe another avenue to try?
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He also has a personal Facebook page which he has been posting to recently. Maybe another avenue to try?
Worth a shot. Thank you!
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Do we have members in Chicago who would pay this seller a visit? Man, if your guys was in LA, I'd love nothing more than to go over there. I thrive on conflict!!!
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You are in luck T! There is a certain Mr J.Potokar who lives in your area. I'm sure myself,Matt & Tong would all appreciate you popping round his flat for a cup of tea & relieve him of the burden are posters have become for him thumbsup.gif.
I can send you his address if you like?
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You are in luck T! There is a certain Mr J.Potokar who lives in your area. I'm sure myself,Matt & Tong would all appreciate you popping round his flat for a cup of tea & relieve him of the burden are posters have become for him thumbsup.gif.
I can send you his address if you like?
I have his address and it wouldnt be pretty.
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maybe he sold all the posters for $680 total?
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We look forward to the confrontation T!
Don't forget to wear a bodycam for our mutual entertainment thumbsup.gif
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Some people who ripped me off im reluctant to pay a visit , these are full blown criminals with networks behind them and theres always a possibility they have firearms
Theres no point visiting Potokar now , as i said hes in OH , the cops confirmed it to me on email.......i dont think he lied to the cops , he knows he has to ship out the stuff when he gets back to CA. He has shipped very expensive stuff to me before and no issues.
Can you sue Cory in small claims court or get someone to sue on your behalf ?
Was a written contract done , that could be binding (people who sign/put their name on CoAs re : fake autographs , thats legally binding according to wiki , no laughing matter)
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I did get in touch via his personal FB (thanks, CSM!) Again, no response, and he's been active on his page since my message.
maybe he sold all the posters for $680 total?
That's fine, but why would he not just tell me if that's the case? Leaving me in the dark for 2+ years is obscene.
Was a written contract done , that could be binding (people who sign/put their name on CoAs re : fake autographs , thats legally binding according to wiki , no laughing matter)
No written contract. Which may have been my bad, but I hadn't even considered this happening. A 'reputable' dealer would've been the last person I'd have expected this from.
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I have his address and it wouldnt be pretty.
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This is the entertainment 2020 needs! ;D
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Do you have his emails , if he agreed in those thats binding imo
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Another installation to this shit show!
I managed to get a response from one of the employees. Forthcoming and helpful, they asked me to send a list of the posters I sent over. I then received the response below feeling hopeful that I may finally get an answer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/65JHK8gM/mail.png)
That was a week ago today. I followed up on Thursday as suggested, over the weekend, and today. No response. So now I'm thinking after speaking to Cory, he likely instructed them to ghost and not respond just as he has for the last two years. Fucking bizarre!
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Shall we initiate operation APF poster-shame? Say the word....
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I would give them another week. Between Covid and Labor Day, people have been a little overwhelmed. I know I've let a lot of things fall thru the cracks. Shoot them another email. By next Monday, you should have an answer.
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I’m sure most of the other dealers that Cory knows would be on MOPO. If you want to shame him that’s prob the place to do it. Maybe start a thread there?
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Another installation to this shit show!
I managed to get a response from one of the employees. Forthcoming and helpful, they asked me to send a list of the posters I sent over. I then received the response below feeling hopeful that I may finally get an answer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/65JHK8gM/mail.png)
That was a week ago today. I followed up on Thursday as suggested, over the weekend, and today. No response. So now I'm thinking after speaking to Cory, he likely instructed them to ghost and not respond just as he has for the last two years. Fucking bizarre!
Yep! As suspected, the employee did completely ghost. No response since the message above. Real piece of work.
I’m sure most of the other dealers that Cory knows would be on MOPO. If you want to shame him that’s prob the place to do it. Maybe start a thread there?
I hadn't realised MOPO was still active. Thank you!
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An update no one asked for!
Since my last post I had given up on the situation entirely. I was stonewalled and getting nowhere so I took the L and moved on.
Scrolling online yesterday, I came across a poster I once owned that I sent to Cory. Feeling pissed, I sent a message inspired by a move by '50s' from years ago. I sent the following:
(https://i.postimg.cc/FHtMVff0/20-01.png)
not even an hour later I received the following response:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVpjydLK/20-02.png)
Keep in mind this is the first and only response I have received from him in almost four years!
Prior to the response above, this was the last message I received (peep the date)
(https://i.postimg.cc/50LJVwF9/2018.png)
Because if stealing and stonewalling wasn't bad enough, this 'reputable dealer' is now a victim. :'( - Very telling that he only responded to a 'threat' against his 'reputation'.
If anyone does want to poke around and ask him what his story is please let me know! I'm super interested in how he's going to justify his theft and piss-poor conduct.
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I don’t go to MOPO, not a place for collectors, only dealers, but did you shame him there, and what was the response?
What a piece of work!
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Labeda, sorry for that.
If you still have copies of your agreement (email, chat, etc.) and considering he paid the down payment (you must have a proof too), then the agreement you had is valid and still stand. You send reminders but got no replies, the first thing I would do then is to send an invoice for the remaining posters with interest - the cover note should state terms of the agreement, date and posters and highlight the lack of replies. Be nice, give him an alternative, that is to return the posters within seven days with proof of shipping. The amount you are asking is below the small claim court (most small claim court in the US starts from 2500 USD); so if you are have a lawyer, resend the invoice with interest and letter of demand from lawyer a month later. And continue to do so, every month, with interest; once you reach 2500USD, action may be taken. All this to say that action is required from your side to have proof and valid case, just invoice, again and again; demand letter, etc. Do the layman lawyer first, be firm and always state the agreement terms and the fact you never received the posters nor the money; then your invoicing and demand letter is totally valid, not sure about the interest on debt.
I also got ripped off by a seller here who run a mess and failed to ship my goods... yet I have paid for them... I have tried to get my posters by sending numerous emails and the guy was a bit nasty, telling me it has been years (yeah sure, I send a few reminders over the years) and I got the goods (well, I have emails where he says he found them and will ship them ASAP). But he never did, I guess he resold them at his auctions. Just like you, I had to consider shaming, then his replies were just terrible, I got insults, telling me to go fuck myself, etc. The funniest of all, this guy is in this forum and went I raised the matter, the all discussion was that dealers should "not to deal with terrible customers like me who don't track his purchase". He wanted me to pay shipping on the two items he found back and I refused... Ahahaha, this guy managed to turn the situation and he played the victim. Guess what, it worked, he got support here... even after insulting me. He even used my story for promotional purpose, saying that next buyer will get some of my stuff. He is a well loved person here, so I am the asshole in the story :) Some people can be really arrogant and BS... and so cheap than a dollar is a dollar. And some people are really biased, even if this guy was right, the way he replied in this forum was just terrible. Seeing the good side of the story is helpful, while I am enjoying home-working from a tropical beach with a well-paid salary, this guy is presumably still arranging his trucks full of 1-dollar poster craps so that he can make ends meet. He can keep my dollars but he deserve to be reminded of below-to-zero attitude.
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I don’t go to MOPO, not a place for collectors, only dealers, but did you shame him there, and what was the response?
What a piece of work!
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I didn't. MOPO have so many rules against calling out dealers/members. I thought it'd just get nixed on sight.
Thanks BwanaDik. I've really just moved on. I'm not willing to put in any more time to chase him up. He knows he's a thief, and this little corner does too.
It pissed me off being reminded about this, so I sent a message expecting nothing as usual.
This thread appearing so high up in google in any search of Cory/Reel Art is a small consolation. thumbsup.gif
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It is a small consolation thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
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