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Title: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 29, 2011, 06:14:09 PM

  Okay Bruce, spill some beans about key items.  Can you at least give us a snapshot of 10 to watch out for or maybe 10 items rarely seen?
I know you have eschewed forum calls for a preview period similar to Heritage.  Which is cool, I am sure there is a business reason behind it like trying not to devalue current auctions.

  But with CM having some nice no reserve auctions going on, and Heritage is up to 7 pages of preview for the November Signature auction, please give me a reason to keep my Benjamins in my wallet for the big emovie Fall Major/Mini.

  I know that curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.   ;D

  Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: jayn_j on August 29, 2011, 06:35:28 PM
Why should you care, Brian?  You're on hiatus  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Zorba on August 29, 2011, 06:36:43 PM
Why should you care, Brian?  You're on hiatus  ;D

 laugh1

Wait. Arent we all?  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 29, 2011, 07:42:24 PM
  Okay Bruce, spill some beans about key items.  Can you at least give us a snapshot of 10 to watch out for or maybe 10 items rarely seen?
I know you have eschewed forum calls for a preview period similar to Heritage.  Which is cool, I am sure there is a business reason behind it like trying not to devalue current auctions.

  But with CM having some nice no reserve auctions going on, and Heritage is up to 7 pages of preview for the November Signature auction, please give me a reason to keep my Benjamins in my wallet for the big emovie Fall Major/Mini.

  I know that curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.   ;D

  Brian

I've been pushing for Bruce to this for a while now.... Thanks for bringing it up again Brian!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on August 29, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
Why should you care, Brian?  You're on hiatus  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 29, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
 But with CM having some nice no reserve auctions going on, and Heritage is up to 7 pages of preview for the November Signature auction, please give me a reason to keep my Benjamins in my wallet for the big emovie Fall Major/Mini.

I think they've got different business models.  It seems that Heritage makes most of its revenue from its quarterly signature auctions, which is why they hype them so much. It focuses almost exclusively on US posters. Emovie sells many more and a greater variety of posters than Heritage and makes its revenue through steady high volume.  Focusing too much on the major auctions would detract from the regular auctions.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 29, 2011, 09:29:29 PM
I hear this all the time. Some people have said for 6 times at a row that there were things in our mini/major that they would have been able to buy had they had "time to prepare".

At some point, I want those guys to realize that I will almost certainly have those items (or ones like it) in EVERY mini/major, so I am asking them to "go on faith" and start saving up some money sight unseen so they WILL be prepared!

If somehow I disappoint you ONE time, then what is the downside? You can use the money for something else, but what are the odds of that?

Remember too that you can use your credit cards, and that lets you finance the purchase through them.

As to the mini/major, I have been FEVERISHLY working on it, and while you won't find zillion dollar rarities, and likely few if any items you can't afford, you will find tons of quality items of every genre (many in the $100 to $500 range) and I think you will all be quite happy with the selection.

And you'll see the first of it in just a little over a week!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 29, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
hey Bruce.. I need a Big Sleep one sheet.. a raw one
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 29, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
Can't help you this time, Rich. But there COULD be one or more of the 1,400+ items to interest you, and lots more you will be bidding on as a dealer.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 29, 2011, 10:35:38 PM

  Come on Bruce, how about a top ten favorites or ten super cool, or ten rarely seen, ten favorites of a pirate, or the ten biggest.
Don't make me get Chop Top going on this theme or this thread will never end!!!!!     ;D


   Brian
 
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on August 30, 2011, 12:14:55 AM
hey Bruce.. I need a Big Sleep one sheet.. a raw one

Don't we all!?
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 30, 2011, 07:58:11 AM
Bruce, picture this like dating...

I can, of course, find a lot of posters in every auction that I'm attracted to.  However, I need a bit more time than 7 days to figure out if it's going to be "the one".  Having a longer preview period gives me time to really zero on on certain posters and be confident in my purchase decision.  I'm sure most dealers looking for posters can just "do the math" and quickly figure out what they want to bid on and how much they will bid.  I imagine with collectors there is a bit more emotion involved in the process and that takes time to build...
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 30, 2011, 08:09:38 AM
Harry

You are being invited to a dance where you KNOW there will be a lot of hot single babes dying to go home with you. Isn't it worth it to take a good shower, get dressed nicely, put on your best cologne etc, even though you haven't even seen a picture or know the name of the lucky girl who gets to go home with you?

 bed1

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: 50s on August 30, 2011, 09:22:58 AM

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/dance_poster.jpg)

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 30, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/dance_poster.jpg)



Since that insert is 36" that dude is tiny :)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: 50s on August 30, 2011, 09:50:58 AM
Since that insert is 36" that dude is tiny :)

That's my 3 sheet... well she was mine... before she met twinkle toes Harry...

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 30, 2011, 11:05:29 AM
Bruce, I honestly don't understand your resistance to this idea... in fact you've done it before plenty of times:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,994.0.html
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1997.0.html
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,968.0.html
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,952.0.html
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1474.0.html

I think all we are asking for here is for you to do this regularly and as early in the listing process as possible.  I've already stated my position before in another thread I started on the same topic.  I'll quote it (editing out the irrelevant bits) and link to again for those who haven't seen it already: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,2095.0.html

Quote
I REALLY wish you would start offering previews of items in your mini/major auctions.  Many of the posters in your mini/major auctions tend to go for serious cash... cash that can be difficult to arrange with only a weeks notice.  I know you regularly criticize HA for their high BPs and house bids, but one thing they do right is to build excitement around their Sig auctions.  I've bought several posters in their sig auctions that I probably normally wouldn't feel as comfortable bidding on.  They often list their sig items online for 2+ months--basically as they roll in and are photographed.  Then internet bidding is open for several weeks before the live auction.  This has given me plenty of time to really obsess about certain posters!  I also have plenty of time to start the process of setting aside funds or other posters to sell (or tell myself I'll sell Wink) to pay for them.

BELIEVE ME, YOU WANT YOUR BIDDERS TO DO THIS!

I'm glad you started posting a schedule of your upcoming auctions (I think that was at my request as well).  However, the contents of your auctions still tend to catch me off guard.  I realize it isn't feasible to have previews of all your auctions, but this is something you should definitely do for your mini/majors.  It will come as no surprise to most people here to find out that I'm willing to pony up some big bucks if there is a poster I really want... but make no mistake, I'm not an impulse buyer.  With your mini/majors I usually feel caught off guard and under the gun for time.  In those situations I tend to back off as opposed to going all in.

I realize 2-3 week preview periods won't be of use to everyone.  I'm sure some of your buyers have deep enough pockets and can throw around big cash on a week's notice.  However, I don't see a downside to adding them.  It will give you more time to attract both more big buck buyers and small time buyers who need some time to budget for big purchases.

I know you've started posting a single image 'teaser' of some of your items, but it isn't quite good enough.  Your teaser for this mini/major was a bunch of Argentinian posters.  And while they are all quite cool (especially the Kane), Argentinians don't really float my boat so I was all prepared to sit this one out.  I really think a full item-by-item preview would be great for buyers and great for your sales.  Please consider adding them... by your next mini/major if possible!

Thanks for listening to me ramble... if others agree, please let Bruce know!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on August 30, 2011, 11:43:15 AM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/dance_poster.jpg)



That gave me a good chuckle Steve!  But I think Bruce is severely mistaken if he thinks "a lot of hot single babes dying to go home with you" is something known to us poster people.  Unless the female collectors experience this hot single babes phenomena differently?  ;)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 30, 2011, 12:55:13 PM
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/dance_poster.jpg)




  That one may top Brude's infidel gif which I thought was the funniest response in forum history. 

Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Zorba on August 30, 2011, 01:48:23 PM

  That one may top Brude's infidel gif which I thought was the funniest response in forum history. 

Brian

It is pretty kick ass  :)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 30, 2011, 02:55:17 PM

  Clearly Bruce is not going to play ball.  Which is okay, it is his company and he owes us no further explanation.

  Just from a customer view, I do like to know what is potentially available before I make a purchase.  For example, CineMasterpieces has several   nice no reserve auctions running this week.  If I plunk down money for the SW mylar advance, then I might not purchase anything from emovie's Fall M/M.  We all have a budget to live within, plus Heritage has already done a nice job promoting some key posters that will be available in November.

  But I am well aware, that my participation in the Fall M/M is inconsequential in the big picture to emovie.

  Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 30, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
Not true Brian. It is very consequential to me what every bidder buys. That is one more thing that separates our auctions from many others.

But one thing I don't get. You had 7 days on Cinemasterpieces' items. How is that different?

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
I'm totally aware of how much everyone wants to see Preview Galleries of auctions coming up.
I've been trying to get Previews up for several weeks to come all year long, depending on work load of course.

I actually have the gallery already up for the auction that starts tomorrow of Title cards
http://www.movieposterbid.com/supersize/99cent_201/

But I also have the gallery up already for the folowing week as well of scene cards including stuff like Cool hand Luke, Jailhouse Rock, 1930s John Wayne and an original release card for It Happened One Night
http://www.movieposterbid.com/supersize/99cent_202/

by Thursday, I'll have the Preview of the Inserts being sold the following week and it's possible that we may have 2-4 weeks of Previews up regularly

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: crowzilla on August 30, 2011, 09:38:54 PM
But one thing I don't get. You had 7 days on Cinemasterpieces' items. How is that different?
Bruce

I understood his comment pretty clearly - it's about opportunity cost.
If he spends money with Cinemasterpieces he might not be able to afford something in an upcoming auction (yours or someone else's).
If he had a preview of upcoming auctions to help him choose he could better make a decision on where to spend his money.
More perfect information = better choices instead of missed opportunity.
Bird in hand (CM Star Wars poster) > maybe/possibly Bruce will list something I want to bid on at some undetermined date in the future.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
But I also have the gallery up already for the folowing week as well of scene cards including stuff like Cool hand Luke, Jailhouse Rock, 1930s John Wayne and an original release card for It Happened One Night
http://www.movieposterbid.com/supersize/99cent_202/

2nd page and I already see one I need.  DAMN!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 30, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
I understood his comment pretty clearly - it's about opportunity cost.
If he spends money with Cinemasterpieces he might not be able to afford something in an upcoming auction (yours or someone else's).
If he had a preview of upcoming auctions to help him choose he could better make a decision on where to spend his money.
More perfect information = better choices instead of missed opportunity.
Bird in hand (CM Star Wars poster) > maybe/possibly Bruce will list something I want to bid on at some undetermined date in the future.



 Bingo!!!  Just said with bigger words.   :D

 Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 30, 2011, 10:02:17 PM
You both don't get me. I mean you only have 7 days on Dave's auctions, and you did not ask him for a preview gallery. Why me and not him?

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Ari on August 30, 2011, 10:06:07 PM
maybe he has a crush ;) ?
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 10:23:39 PM
nobody had to ask me.. I wanted to do it..
Bad
 bed1
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 30, 2011, 10:27:29 PM
You both don't get me. I mean you only have 7 days on Dave's auctions, and you did not ask him for a preview gallery. Why me and not him?

Bruce


Bruce, I think you are taking this all the wrong way.  No one here is attacking you.  I see a preview gallery as a win-win... we get more time to plan/budget and you get more money from us after we've fixated on these posters for a longer time.  I know it will take time to build out the capability, I just think it would be a worthwhile endeavor for you and its clearly in demand... otherwise people wouldn't be posting here about it.


I hear this all the time. Some people have said for 6 times at a row that there were things in our mini/major that they would have been able to buy had they had "time to prepare".


If you hear this all the time from your customers... maybe its worth acting on?
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 30, 2011, 10:31:40 PM
nobody had to ask me.. I wanted to do it..
Bad
 bed1

Thanks Rich.  I think its just good business...
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 10:35:00 PM
Thanks Rich.  I think its just good business...

 bed1
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 30, 2011, 10:45:31 PM
I sell SO much more than anyone else. I have to consider the interests of those who have items on auction in our current three weekly auctions.

If I had a preview on for one week, it might hurt the results of those three auctions, and still there would be those who say, "Only ONE week? Why not a month?" And then 12 regular auctions might have diminished results.

My number one concern (after running 100% honest auctions!) is to look out for my consignors' best interest, and a preview gallery might be in some consignors' best interests, but it would not be in ALL my consignors' best interests.

Unlike the others, who buy most of the items they auction (and therefore they have few or no consignors to look out for) I have all consignments, so I must consider their interests first (as long as I don't do anything wrong to get them more money, like cheat left bids, as happens regularly in other auctions).

I added a lot of excellent non-U.S. posters tonight (800 in all). How about you guys take a look at those? And Thursday I will add 777 unusual non-movie posters, and Sunday I will add around 500 27x40s and 27x41s including lots of popular titles. Maybe those will keep you busy until next Tuesday when I add Part I of the minimajor (and of course you will likely then want to know immediately what is in Part II and III without waiting a few more days!).

I am doing the best I can to be fair to every buyer and consignor. One of you should try running 2000 auctions in a week (or a month) and you might get a sense of how hard that is to do!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
Bruce,
  I don't think you REALLY have to explain yourself.  The people who preview are cool, the people who don't are cool.  You've done it in the past and personally I like it, kinda gets me excited for the actual auction, but it really doesn't drive whether or not I'm going to bid.  I check all of the auctions that you, Rich, and Heritage run all the time and I suspect that everyone else here does too.  If they want something when you start the auctions, they will bid.  That "save up money/plan my purchases" is just BS. 
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 30, 2011, 10:55:40 PM
One of you should try running 2000 auctions in a week (or a month) and you might get a sense of how hard that is to do!

Bruce

I do 1200 or more.. It's tough!!
But I do it, well face it.. because I love all of you. I want to make sure you're all happy.
so what if I spend every waking hour or every day slaving over this hot stove.. I know in the end, I'm doing it for a good cause bringing up my poster family
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 30, 2011, 11:12:44 PM
That "save up money/plan my purchases" is just BS. 


For you maybe. 

On the rare occasion when I think I can get something for a deal, I'll bid "big" on short notice -- i.e. my $1K bid for a BAT 1-sheet, which I ended up winning for $305.  However, "big" is usually relative as I know I can get it back and then some when I sell/trade-up. 

However, I definitely plan out my big purchases when I know I'll be paying fair market value (HA, eMovie, MPB, etc...).  I'd be a careless collector if I didn't.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 30, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
However, I definitely plan out my big purchases when I know I'll be paying fair market value (HA, eMovie, MPB, etc...).  I'd be a careless collector if I didn't.

Then it doesn't sound like you're a collector at all, sounds to me like you're a dealer who wants the cheapest price to sell later on.  Nothing wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: 50s on August 31, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
At emovieposter, no previews I guess is fair to all consigners as they perceive that is equality, but it is not equality as I suspect the lower end stuff in the weekly auctions gets higher bids than warranted and the mini major items get lower bids because people spent early and cant afford the mini majors because of lack of planning... Would I pass on a poster in a weekly auction I sort of like in the hope that a spectacular one might be in the next major that I would rather have spent my $ on... no, me, I'll buy the weekly one... a bird in the hand... so when the big day comes, i dont have the dough.

Maybe I am different, but I dont necessarily always find something in the major I like, so i dont save for it. A preview would help me plan for it. In the meantime, if i find a great $$$ poster elsewhere, I buy it, again a bird in the hand...

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 31, 2011, 12:29:39 AM
Then it doesn't sound like you're a collector at all, sounds to me like you're a dealer who wants the cheapest price to sell later on.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

 Really???  Thierry prides himself on buying posters at a price he considers to be an appropriate low price.  Would you accuse him of not being a collector? While Holiday has been accused of overpaying just to get whatever he wants.  Does that make him more of a collector?

  Harry said that he plans out bigger purchases when he knows that he will be paying fair market price.  What is wrong with that?  I sort of want a key poster already listed in the November Signature. I know it runs around 4k, I know that it will not go for 3K and could go for 5k.  

  I have already spent 1.5K this month on poster splurges and most of that with Bruce.  So does that make me more of a collector than methodically planning purchases over the next couple of months?


 Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: kovacs01 on August 31, 2011, 03:52:22 AM
Then it doesn't sound like you're a collector at all, sounds to me like you're a dealer who wants the cheapest price to sell later on.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

It is not about getting the cheapest price to sell later on.  It is about getting the cheapest price you can afford the next item and the next. Not giving a damn about how much an item costs is not what makes someone a collector (ie. non-dealer).  It makes them a fool.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 05:13:55 AM
It is not about getting the cheapest price to sell later on.  It is about getting the cheapest price you can afford the next item and the next. Not giving a damn about how much an item costs is not what makes someone a collector (ie. non-dealer).  It makes them a fool.

it's all relative Kovacs.. Let's say a guy is looking for a Jaws poster and he knows Dave who has a poster listed at $925, but if he waits and spends time on ebay he can find one after a while for $300. In an ordinary situation, it is wise for him to wait.
However, what if he's Warren Buffett, or what if he's an attorney who bills out at $750 an hour. Is it still cost effective for this person to spend his time cruising ebay or just call Dave and spend 10 minutes to buy the poster?
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: idioteque on August 31, 2011, 05:29:58 AM
Fair enough really.

I sell SO much more than anyone else. I have to consider the interests of those who have items on auction in our current three weekly auctions.

If I had a preview on for one week, it might hurt the results of those three auctions, and still there would be those who say, "Only ONE week? Why not a month? And then 12 regular auctions might have diminished results."

My number one concern (after running 100% honest auctions!) is to look out for my consignors' best interest, and a preview gallery might be in some consignors' best interests, but it would not be in ALL my consignors' best interests.

Unlike the others, who buy most of the items they auction (and therefore they have few or no consignors to look out for) I have all consignments, so I must consider their interests first (as long as I don't do anything wrong to get them more money, like cheat left bids, as happens regularly in other auctions).

I added a lot of excellent non-U.S. posters tonight (800 in all). How about you guys take a look at those? And Thursday I will add 777 unusual non-movie posters, and Sunday I will add around 500 27x40s and 27x41s including lots of popular titles. Maybe those will keep you busy until next Tuesday when I add Part I of the minimajor (and of course you will likely then want to know immediately what is in Part II and III without waiting a few more days!).

I am doing the best I can to be fair to every buyer and consignor. One of you should try running 2000 auctions in a week (or a month) and you might get a sense of how hard that is to do!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 06:52:12 AM
Thank you Louie D. and idioteque for understanding my position.

You know, I used to try to "please all the people all the time". Then one day I realized there is no pleasing some people.

Let me give you an example: One fellow bought an expensive poster, and then afterwards, gave me a long excuse about how he couldn't pay for it, but that he surely would pay just as soon as he got back on his feet. As an experiment, I held on to the poster and paid the consignor for it, trusting that person and taking him at his word.

Over a year went by, and then the person asked about the poster. I told him I still had it, and as soon as he paid, he would be unblocked and able to bid again.

That was well over a month ago, and I have heard no more. So much for that experiment!

I now do my best to please as many people as possible (as long as I do nothing wrong) and if that means a few people will be unhappy because I can't give them exactly what they want (for example, I have had people who want me to look through many pressbooks to see if a certain minor actor in those movies is pictured) then I have to live with that, because if I agreed to these kinds of requests, I would surely then get even more from those same people, so the people would still not be happy anyway..

Another example is people who buy items for two weeks (in the U.S.) or four weeks (outside the U.S.) and then I accumulate all the items in a single package and send them. There are some people who get a quote to ship those items, and then they say "I bought one more item" so re-pack it with that and then I'll pay" and then when they get their new quote they say "I just bought one more, so add that in, too" and this can go on and on for weeks.

Or the people who constantly do no pay until I finally have to threaten to block them, and only then do they pay, and then the cycle starts again.

Most of my customers are great people, but the 1% of the ones who cause 99% of the problems are not.

Brian, I don't how many of your purchases you have received so far, but when you do, you will see that none of them were "optimistically graded" and all were packed great, and that you either paid the cost of shipping or less on all of them. That may well not be the case with those you purchased anywhere else.

When the items for our mini/major go online next Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, you will have one week (for each set of auctions) to decide if any of them are ones you want to bid on, and then two more weeks after they close in which to pay for them (and if there is something that is a special case, and it would take you more time to pay, contact me personally, and I will see what I can offer, which I do so solely on a case by case basis, first reviewing your past buying record).

I hope you find some items you like, and that you are successful in bidding on some or all!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: jayn_j on August 31, 2011, 07:45:22 AM
Thank you Louie D. and idioteque for understanding my position.

You know, I used to try to "please all the people all the time". Then one day I realized there is no pleasing some people.

Or as I say in another forum, if you somehow managed to cause it to rain dollar bills, some members would blast you for littering.

I've stayed out of this one.  You have the product, you set the rules.  As long as they are evenly applied (and they are), I've got no beef.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 31, 2011, 07:57:54 AM
Really???  Thierry prides himself on buying posters at a price he considers to be an appropriate low price.  Would you accuse him of not being a collector? While Holiday has been accused of overpaying just to get whatever he wants.  Does that make him more of a collector?

  Harry said that he plans out bigger purchases when he knows that he will be paying fair market price.  What is wrong with that?  I sort of want a key poster already listed in the November Signature. I know it runs around 4k, I know that it will not go for 3K and could go for 5k.  

  I have already spent 1.5K this month on poster splurges and most of that with Bruce.  So does that make me more of a collector than methodically planning purchases over the next couple of months?

Brian

Wow!  Someone's in love.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on August 31, 2011, 07:58:31 AM
Thank you Louie D. and idioteque for understanding my position.

You know, I used to try to "please all the people all the time". Then one day I realized there is no pleasing some people.

Most of my customers are great people, but the 1% of the ones who cause 99% of the problems are not.

Bruce

  I don't recall having done anything to be dismissed as a "problem customer."  As Harry pointed out earlier Bruce, you in your own words admitted that people ask you "all the time" about a preview.  And at least half the posters on this thread have supported the idea of a preview.

  So I guess that makes us all "problem customers."


   Brian



Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 08:06:41 AM
Brian, please read closer! I was talking about problem customers, and I in no way implied that you (or Harry) are or ever were problem customers!

When I said I am asked all the time for previews, it is by the same tiny handful of people. I have to weigh up the big picture of my overall business. and do what I think best for everyone overall, as I explained.

You, Harry, and anyone else has the right to make suggestions or criticisms, and it is why I actively participate on these boards (unlike others, who solely post to offer items for sale or auction). I like to help others when I can, and I like to hear feedback from others. But please be understanding if I can't do exactly as you prefer. I do care about every customer, but I do have 30,000+ customers and 800+ consignors, and there are many areas where I could never please everyone.

You are a valued customer, Brian, as is Harry, and anyone else who bids and pays for their items. I believe you are treated better in our auctions than in any other auctions and I think you will find that to be the case once you have had time to compare our business to the rest.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: AdamCarterJones on August 31, 2011, 08:14:01 AM
I think everyone should just let Bruce get on with what he is doing.
I would like a preview like that which is being talked about, but I know this is very difficult for Bruce to implement, and so I understand his reasons for not doing so.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 31, 2011, 08:52:13 AM
However, what if he's Warren Buffett, or what if he's an attorney who bills out at $750 an hour. Is it still cost effective for this person to spend his time cruising ebay or just call Dave and spend 10 minutes to buy the poster?

So true. I remember reading an article about one of the Google founders several years ago, when they were only (!) worth a billion or so each. (Now they're worth $15 billion.)  He was asked whether and why he paid for first class tickets when he traveled.  He replied "yes, the additional cost is irrelevant to me."

BTW you cannot get super-rich being a lawyer who bills by the hour.  Yeah, those guys make can make a multimillion salary.  The only way to get super-rich is to be a plaintiff class-action lawyer who hits the jackpot, like the lawyers who won the cigarette cases a few years back.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: AdamCarterJones on August 31, 2011, 09:04:45 AM
BTW you cannot get super-rich being a lawyer who bills by the hour.  Yeah, those guys make can make a multimillion salary.  The only way to get super-rich is to be a plaintiff class-action lawyer who hits the jackpot, like the lawyers who won the cigarette cases a few years back.

Or run your own super-firm!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 09:05:33 AM
But on the plus side, even though they rarely become super-rich, lawyers are now no longer considered the lowest of the low (that is reserved for career politicians).

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: AdamCarterJones on August 31, 2011, 09:21:38 AM
I don't know about that, Bruce.
In my experience, lawyers feck around and lie all the time; just as much as politicians!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 09:44:53 AM
Then it doesn't sound like you're a collector at all, sounds to me like you're a dealer who wants the cheapest price to sell later on.  Nothing wrong with that at all.

Honestly, how many posters have you sold Louie? 

Because I've sold a grand total of 6 since I started collecting and probably own 500+ posters.  Now explain to me again how looking for deals and trying to ensure I don't needlessly overpay for posters makes me a dealer?  I would really prefer not to blow my family's money on my hobby, which is why I work so hard sniffing out deals and planning out big purchases.  I sleep well knowing that if something terrible happened, I could send everything to Bruce and I would end up with more or less what I spent, even after taking his consignment fees into account. 
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
Wow!  Someone's in love.

Way to dodge Louie...
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on August 31, 2011, 09:54:13 AM
But on the plus side, even though they rarely become super-rich, lawyers are now no longer considered the lowest of the low (that is reserved for career politicians).

Bruce

No, "overpaid" federal employees have now become the favorite "whipping boys"

So, I'm a lawyer/federal employee, making me the lowest of the low :)

In 4.5 years of working for the gov, I've won every single case and saved taxpayers many, many times my salary. Where's the love?

P.S. Some feds - particularly mid-level administrative staff - are ridiculously overpaid but not moi!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 10:02:23 AM
Thank you Louie D. and idioteque for understanding my position.

You know, I used to try to "please all the people all the time". Then one day I realized there is no pleasing some people.

Let me give you an example: One fellow bought an expensive poster, and then afterwards, gave me a long excuse about how he couldn't pay for it, but that he surely would pay just as soon as he got back on his feet. As an experiment, I held on to the poster and paid the consignor for it, trusting that person and taking him at his word.

Over a year went by, and then the person asked about the poster. I told him I still had it, and as soon as he paid, he would be unblocked and able to bid again.

That was well over a month ago, and I have heard no more. So much for that experiment!

I now do my best to please as many people as possible (as long as I do nothing wrong) and if that means a few people will be unhappy because I can't give them exactly what they want (for example, I have had people who want me to look through many pressbooks to see if a certain minor actor in those movies is pictured) then I have to live with that, because if I agreed to these kinds of requests, I would surely then get even more from those same people, so the people would still not be happy anyway..

Another example is people who buy items for two weeks (in the U.S.) or four weeks (outside the U.S.) and then I accumulate all the items in a single package and send them. There are some people who get a quote to ship those items, and then they say "I bought one more item" so re-pack it with that and then I'll pay" and then when they get their new quote they say "I just bought one more, so add that in, too" and this can go on and on for weeks.

Or the people who constantly do no pay until I finally have to threaten to block them, and only then do they pay, and then the cycle starts again.

Most of my customers are great people, but the 1% of the ones who cause 99% of the problems are not.

Brian, I don't how many of your purchases you have received so far, but when you do, you will see that none of them were "optimistically graded" and all were packed great, and that you either paid the cost of shipping or less on all of them. That may well not be the case with those you purchased anywhere else.

When the items for our mini/major go online next Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, you will have one week (for each set of auctions) to decide if any of them are ones you want to bid on, and then two more weeks after they close in which to pay for them (and if there is something that is a special case, and it would take you more time to pay, contact me personally, and I will see what I can offer, which I do so solely on a case by case basis, first reviewing your past buying record).

I hope you find some items you like, and that you are successful in bidding on some or all!

Bruce

Bruce-
I understand your position and I do appreciate all the time you spend on the forum.  You've been in this hobby longer than anyone and its great that you take the time to share that knowledge.  

I see this request as being not much different from my earlier request that you publish an auction schedule with what will be coming down the pike.  Now, from the sound of it it didn't seem like you had customers beating down your door requesting an auction calendar, but if I and a few other people collectively spoke up and helped to make a positive improvement on your website I think that is all the better.  I honestly think previews would be a win-win(-win) for the buyers, for you (and for your consignors).  You may think differently and I respect that.  However, I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning so I want to be sure I'm being clear...

I know you want to do what is best for your consignors, and maybe to accomplish that you shouldn't preview *all* of your mini/major items... especially if they include items that commonly come up in weekly auctions as well.  That said, I don't see how setting up a preview page a few weeks ahead of time with rare posters like the In a Lonely Place French 1-panel and the Grand Illusion Italian you sold a while back would hurt.  You clearly won't be selling items like that outside your mini/majors so it would actually be *better* for your consignors to have those items previewed and promoted early.  And it would be better for buyers as we would get time to plan for those out-of-the-blue purchases.  Hell, I didn't even know that Grand Illusion poster existed before your auction!  Unfortunately I was already tapped out on some other big purchases that month.  You've done limited previews before, so even if we don't get anything more formal than that it would still be great if you could continue to highlight a few of the rare pieces you'll be selling in your m/m.

And by the way, like Brian I didn't quite understand how equating our request for previews to broken promises from dead-beat buyers was really relevant to this discussion.  Yes, I understand you can't please everyone, but that is a different issue entirely and it doesn't feel great when you are on the other end of that comparison.

Anyway, I feel like I've made my point so I'll leave it here unless people have specific questions/comments for me.

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
But on the plus side, even though they rarely become super-rich, lawyers are now no longer considered the lowest of the low (that is reserved for career politicians).

Bruce

I have never considered Lawyers to be the lowest. I have had a few do work for me over time & except for one, they pretty much did what they were paid for and politicians are also not the lowest to me as I understand whatm why and how they do what they do.

the lowest: BANKERS.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 31, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
Honestly, how many posters have you sold Louie? 

Because I've sold a grand total of 6 since I started collecting and probably own 500+ posters.  Now explain to me again how looking for deals and trying to ensure I don't needlessly overpay for posters makes me a dealer?  I would really prefer not to blow my family's money on my hobby, which is why I work so hard sniffing out deals and planning out big purchases.  I sleep well knowing that if something terrible happened, I could send everything to Bruce and I would end up with more or less what I spent, even after taking his consignment fees into account. 

I guess you missed the part where I wrote Nothing wrong with that at all.

It appears you can call people just about anything on this forum, just don't use the term "poster dealer".  Jeesh!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 02:49:02 PM
by the way Bruce.. I completely understand why you don't have your gallery up in advance. It's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
My situation is different because for the most part, I sell my own stuff whereas you sell for the most part for consignors. It's a different dynamic

but that said, I would like to see your galleries asap before auction if possible, just like anyone else.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 03:00:37 PM
I guess you missed the part where I wrote Nothing wrong with that at all.

It appears you can call people just about anything on this forum, just don't use the term "poster dealer".  Jeesh!

Way to dodge again Louie.  Not surprisingly, you didn't answer my questions.  

1. How many posters have you sold?

2. Why should I be considered a dealer for A) having sold ~1% of my collection and B) that I plan out my big purchases when I know I'll have to pay FMV?

I don't think there is anything wrong with being a dealer either, I would just like to know why you called me one.  Adding the old Seinfeld line (not that there is anything wrong with that) to the end of sentence doesn't absolve you what you said.  It reminds of a saying I've learned in the south... "I'm just saying".  Basically, people think you get to insult someone to their face (Boy Louie, did you look in the mirror before you left the house today!?), but get a free pass by adding a few words at the end (but I'm just saying is all).  Its a classy move for sure  eyeroll
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 31, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Way to dodge again Louie.  Not surprisingly, you didn't answer my questions.  

1. How many posters have you sold?

2. Why should I be considered a dealer for A) having sold ~1% of my collection and B) that I plan out my big purchases when I know I'll have to pay FMV?

I don't think there is anything wrong with being a dealer either, I would just like to know why you called me one.  Adding the old Seinfeld line (not that there is anything wrong with that) to the end of sentence doesn't absolve you what you said.  It reminds of a saying I've learned in the south... "I'm just saying".  Basically, people think you get to insult someone to their face (Boy Louie, did you look in the mirror before you left the house today!?), but get a free pass by adding a few words at the end (but I'm just saying is all).  Its a classy move for sure  eyeroll

1. I've sold over 45,000 posters, mostly reproductions to unsuspecting Universal Horror collectors.

2. You're considered a dealer 'cause I said so.

And thank you for confirming that "poster dealer" is a bad term in the hobby.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 03:24:56 PM
And thank you for confirming that "poster dealer" is a bad term in the hobby.

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/finger1.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
And thank you for confirming that "poster dealer" is a bad term in the hobby.

I believe you took care of that with your Seinfeld comment.  Way to dodge yet again.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
I can't take this! I will put up some images tonight (but please don't tell me I didn't do enough!).

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Zorba on August 31, 2011, 06:05:05 PM
I can't take this! I will put up some images tonight (but please don't tell me I didn't do enough!).

Bruce

I would survive without them but I must say I am happy to be getting some sneak peeks.  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: jayn_j on August 31, 2011, 06:09:53 PM
I bet you all snuck into your parents' closet and unwrapped your Christmas presents a week early too  ;)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 06:18:15 PM
I bet you all snuck into your parents' closet and unwrapped your Christmas presents a week early too  ;)

I didn't have to pay for those  ;)


Thanks Bruce... looking forward to it.  Sorry to be such a hard ass.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
OK, here's a preview of the British Quads:

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/)

Click on any image to enlarge it.

If you respond positively, I will try to add a new gallery each day until the auctions start!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 07:05:18 PM
Positive, positive, positive!!!

I'm not telling which ones I like though!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 07:16:59 PM
please note the equation

Bruce Gallery > 0
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Zorba on August 31, 2011, 07:48:23 PM
Positive, positive, positive!!!

I'm not telling which ones I like though!

+1

I know the Bogie is a slam dunk. Are we starting a Peeping Tom collection?

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on August 31, 2011, 07:51:15 PM
+1

I know the Bogie is a slam dunk. Are we starting a Peeping Tom collection?



Mums the word.

Bruce, I'm rearranging finances as we speak  ;)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on August 31, 2011, 09:28:02 PM
Wow...some really nice quads coming up!
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 31, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
Wow...some really nice quads coming up!

sadly I saw one I want.. it will go for too much $ for me though I think.. of course, we never really know until it happens
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on August 31, 2011, 09:33:12 PM
That's really unfortunate for those like me that would have followed through.  You did a cool thing, and you got it handed back to you in bad way. What a putz.

Thank you Louie D. and idioteque for understanding my position.

You know, I used to try to "please all the people all the time". Then one day I realized there is no pleasing some people.

Let me give you an example: One fellow bought an expensive poster, and then afterwards, gave me a long excuse about how he couldn't pay for it, but that he surely would pay just as soon as he got back on his feet. As an experiment, I held on to the poster and paid the consignor for it, trusting that person and taking him at his word.

Over a year went by, and then the person asked about the poster. I told him I still had it, and as soon as he paid, he would be unblocked and able to bid again.

That was well over a month ago, and I have heard no more. So much for that experiment!


Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on August 31, 2011, 09:37:18 PM
Whew.  I feel like I dodged a bullet.  Nice stuff, but nothing for me.



OK, here's a preview of the British Quads:

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/)

Click on any image to enlarge it.

If you respond positively, I will try to add a new gallery each day until the auctions start!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 31, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Whew.  I feel like I dodged a bullet.  Nice stuff, but nothing for me.

I hear ya, not one thing I need but a few things look good.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 31, 2011, 10:27:54 PM
Hey, don't give up so fast! There are also around 1,425 other items!

Tune in tomorrow for more.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on August 31, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
Hey, don't give up so fast! There are also around 1,425 other items!

Tune in tomorrow for more.

Bruce

Not giving up at all, I'm sure I'll be spending some $$$ during this round.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: crowzilla on August 31, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
You guys are lucky, always finding something you need from Bruce.

C'mon Bruce, I've got money burning a hole in my pocket - get something in that I need.
I can't remember the last time I got something from you I needed for my Godzilla collection.  :'(
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on August 31, 2011, 11:38:48 PM
How did I know you were going to say something like that?

 :)

Hey, don't give up so fast! There are also around 1,425 other items!

Tune in tomorrow for more.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: 50s on August 31, 2011, 11:54:42 PM
What is this guy taking a photograph of? (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/large/british_quad_confessions_of_a_sexy_photographer_linen_JM02663_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: DreamWarrior on September 01, 2011, 12:17:18 AM
I sorta like not knowing what is in a particular auction until I check it out. I enjoy looking at them all at once and filling up my watch list. I think it's to be expected there will be some great stuff in the mini/major, so don't blow all your dough before then unless you get a good deal on something your really want. I know when October hits my bank account will take a hit. That's one benefit of only collecting horror. Too bad there is only one Halloween a year. ;D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 01, 2011, 06:18:23 AM
Hey, don't give up so fast! There are also around 1,425 other items!

Tune in tomorrow for more.

Bruce

  
  Don't worry we will stay tuned in. Who doesn't enjoy a little poster foreplay?    bed1


Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2011, 07:09:59 AM
"Too bad there is only one Halloween a year."

This coming Halloween (our 12th Annual!) will really surprise many of you.

Nothing for crowzilla probably, but something for just about everyone else!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Louie D. on September 01, 2011, 07:56:33 AM
What is this guy taking a photograph of? (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/quadpreview/large/british_quad_confessions_of_a_sexy_photographer_linen_JM02663_L.jpg)

The girls, you can see the camera viewfinder on the left corner.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2011, 08:12:54 AM
"Who doesn't enjoy a little poster foreplay?"

Thanks Brian. I hope that once you see everything you will find a few things in the auction to get you all hot and bothered!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: crowzilla on September 01, 2011, 11:13:11 AM
Nothing for crowzilla probably, but something for just about everyone else!
Bruce

(http://boards.collectors-society.com/images/graemlins/default/tonofbricks.gif)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 01, 2011, 02:25:23 PM

  Hey Bruce,

  I don't see the preview link on the website, so is this an APF "exclusive."  Now that would be a cool way to promote the forum. 

  All Poster Forum:  Home of emovie's M/M Previews for those in the know
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2011, 03:17:08 PM
Here's another "APF exclusive", a brief preview of our Halloween auction, and an offer for those of you reading this to consign to it!

Even though it is still feeling like Summer in most places, it is time to consign to our 12th Annual Halloween Auction

     Our 12th Annual Halloween Mini/Major Auction will be held at the end of October, and this Mini/Major Auction will include solely solely horror, sci-fi, and fantasy movie paper from all countries, both linenbacked and non-backed, including better quality lobby cards and stills. EVERY collector of this genre eagerly looks forward to this auction each year, and we often achieve results not seen at any of our other auctions during the year, even sometimes on commonly available horror/sci-fi items!

The deadline to consign to our 12th Annual Halloween Mini/Major Auction is Friday, September 30th, but that date will be here before you know it, so if you have something you would like considered for inclusion in this special auction, e-mail Phillip through our contact form at http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/contact.php?sel=1 (http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/contact.php?sel=1)  and please remember that in the event we are consigned the same item, we will auction the one that was sent to us first, and in the Halloween auction this happens very often, so it is really important to get your consignments to us quickly!

We have already been consigned many excellent items including a great collection of completely unrestored half-sheets that contains War of the Worlds, Invasion of the Saucer Men, Freaks (R49), and more.

Here is a small preview gallery of some of the half-sheets we've already been consigned:
http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011HWpreview1/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011HWpreview1/)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: jayn_j on September 01, 2011, 03:33:48 PM
Sigh.  I'm not even going to pretend that I could seriously bid on any of those.   :'(
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Harry Caul on September 01, 2011, 03:44:31 PM
That's a great haul coming up Bruce!  Love The Thing From Another World poster.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 01, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Bruce

I can't imagine how you think putting up galleries of this material hurts the weekly sales of under $100 posters
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: theartofmovieposters on September 01, 2011, 05:49:02 PM
Bruce

I can't imagine how you think putting up galleries of this material hurts the weekly sales of under $100 posters

Yeah, I always wondered why no previews...now I know...and I have to say, I agree with Rich ;)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: 50s on September 01, 2011, 07:00:28 PM
Get previews up, have them automatically indexed by Google, more posters then listed on the internet from your site, draw more people to your site and your other auctions
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 01, 2011, 10:34:29 PM

  Oh my, is my head spinning.  :P  Have aliens taken over Bruce's body?

  Bruce you have gone from Preview Nazi ( No preview for you! ), to Mr. Preview Saturday Night!!!!!!!

   
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2011, 10:42:27 PM
Brian, sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 03, 2011, 08:38:45 AM

  Yesterday, I finally opened up my emovie daybill purchases and posters from last month.  They were my first emovie purchases, well packaged and well graded.  The thing I like most about the packaging was the extra room between the taping of the cardboard and the poster. Sometimes other people have the cardboard flats near the same size as the poster, so I was always worried about accidently nicking the poster.

   Yes, the grading was good.  The fine Swamp thing looked like new off the press.  It was almost too minty white. Maybe I should have it tested.  ;D

    And I got a 7 free poster/catalog books and I really enjoyed the John Wayne catalog, and my wife enjoyed the animation book. Not quite the same as getting a free pulp fiction 1sht from Rich, but then again I will never be able to afford being the top dollar purchaser in an emovie auction.
Though, I am sure Bruce that you would like for me to try.   :D

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on September 03, 2011, 09:04:06 AM
Pretty sure it's time to remove the hiatus note in your signature (you know, for the sake of accuracy) ;)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2011, 09:12:46 AM
Thanks Brian for the nice "review" of our overall service.

Your talking about daybills reminds me that we also have some Australian posters and daybills in the upcoming mini/major auction!

Here is a preview gallery of those:

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewAust/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewAust/)

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2011, 01:23:33 PM
A couple of more galleries!

Here is a link to a preview gallery of the LINEN U.S. one-sheets [there will also be non-backed one-sheets as well!] (click on any image to see a larger image):
http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/)

Here is a link to a preview gallery of the Italian one- and two-panels (click on any image to see a larger image):
http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/)

We will possibly add two more preview galleries of some other sizes over the next days before the auctions begin!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on September 03, 2011, 01:33:18 PM
I gotta ask - why would anyone back Star Trek Generations?!

Nice lot of goodies.  Crapola that you had to list that Logan's Run advance.  Thought I would dodge another bullet.  Not gonna happen....

A couple of more galleries!

Here is a link to a preview gallery of the LINEN U.S. one-sheets [there will also be non-backed one-sheets as well!] (click on any image to see a larger image):
http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/)

Here is a link to a preview gallery of the Italian one- and two-panels (click on any image to see a larger image):
http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/)

We will possibly add two more preview galleries of some other sizes over the next days before the auctions begin!

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2011, 01:38:24 PM
Holiday, I am sure you likely know this, but these days I NEVER back anything. I believe in letting the buyers choose who they want to do the restoration, how much restoration they want, etc.

The ones I auction backed were backed by the consignor, or someone further back, but not by me.

As to why someone backs an inexpensive one-sheet, it is so it looks its best on the wall. They are not thinking "investment" and these almost always sell for less than the cost of linenbacking alone.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
I wonder how the PF Lucky Strike will fare?  Emovie has never sold one before.  My bet is $1,200.  I think an unbacked version would go for $1500.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/large/pulp_fiction_lucky_strike_advance_linen_JC01519_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 03, 2011, 02:24:07 PM
Pretty sure it's time to remove the hiatus note in your signature (you know, for the sake of accuracy) ;)

  I think I have done a pretty good job of staying true to my quad, 3sht, 6sht, 24sht, belgian, and international hiatus.   ;D

 
  Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:24:39 PM
Exquisite Italian 2p for To Catch A Thief....

(http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/large/italian_2p_to_catch_a_thief_R61_linen_NZ02952_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:26:10 PM
  I think I have done a pretty good job of staying true to my quad, 3sht,6sht,24sht,belgian, and international hiatus.   ;D
  Brian

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1212/1272549006_294f713d3c.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 02:26:53 PM
I wonder how the PF Lucky Strike will fare?  Emovie has never sold one before.  My bet is $1,200.  I think an unbacked version would go for $1500.

Bruce has sold this poster before.. just not in a few years
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:42:02 PM
Bruce has sold this poster before.. just not in a few years

It's not in the Emovie Archives. The last major public auction in the US was four years ago for $1,553. (It's sold for absurd prices in UK and some of them were fakes.) It's publicly advertised for $2200 retail right now.  It's gone for $500-$750 on Ebay in the last year.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
It's not in the Emovie Archives. The last major public auction in the US was four years ago for $1,553. (It's sold for absurd prices in UK and some of them were fakes.) It's publicly advertised for $2200 retail right now.  It's gone for $500-$750 on Ebay in the last year.

ahem..
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5143976.html
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/bruce_pf1.jpg)

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11925004.html
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/bruce_pf2.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
  It's gone for $500-$750 on Ebay in the last year.

and I've seen it go for as much as $1200 on ebay in the past year to a low of $48 for a damaged copy
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
ahem..
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5143976.html
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/bruce_pf1.jpg)

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11925004.html
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/bruce_pf2.jpg)

You win this round sir.  But as I recall we also had a couple of arguments about an infamous Mr. CC and P-F.com on which I prevailed :)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
You win this round sir.  But as I recall we also had a couple of arguments about an infamous Mr. CC and P-F.com on which I prevailed :)

I don't even know what this means.. but I also didn't know it was a competition
wynk
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 02:57:32 PM
I don't even know what this means.. but I also didn't know it was a competition
wynk

Yeah, we always remember our victories and conveniently forget our losses.

But returning to the run-away topic at hand, when did a PF sell for $1,200 on Ebay?  Was that a Best Offer?  Don't recall seeing that auction.  (And I haven't forgotten the one you auctioned recently, but it was sun-damaged, so is not typical.)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: ATLfun on September 03, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
You win this round sir.  But as I recall we also had a couple of arguments about an infamous Mr. CC and P-F.com on which I prevailed :)


I don't even know what this means.. but I also didn't know it was a competition
wynk

  Whatever, Rich.  You totally remember.  The argument was whether Mr. Cactus Canyon was a character in Tarantino's film True Romance. And the second argument was whether pornfarm.com would process debit cards for access to the HD download section.  You lost both of those arguments to Mel.


  Brian
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 03:07:10 PM
 Whatever, Rich.  You totally remember.  The argument was whether Mr. Cactus Canyon was a character in Tarantino's film True Romance. And the second argument was whether pornfarm.com would process debit cards for access to the HD download section.  You lost both of those arguments to Mel.
  Brian

UMM.. no, it must have been someone else seeing as I don't ever recall a question about Cactus Canyon and I don't even know what a Mr Cactus Canyon is and I have never seen True Romance, so I couldn't possibly have been able to answer such a question

I also have no clue what pornfarm.com is.. so again.. it must have been someone else
(excuse me while I wander over to pornfarm to see what's going on over there. do they sell posters?)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 03:09:48 PM
Yeah, we always remember our victories and conveniently forget our losses.

But returning to the run-away topic at hand, when did a PF sell for $1,200 on Ebay?  Was that a Best Offer?  Don't recall seeing that auction.  (And I haven't forgotten the one you auctioned recently, but it was sun-damaged, so is not typical.)

it sold BIN in about an hour after listing

and btw, the one I sold wound up not selling as Rattler didn't realize it was faded, so I allowed him to back off his bid. The underbidder, whom I offered the poster for Rattler's initial bid (ended at $236, but Rattler's initial bid was $168) but he didn't respond, so it's going to be resold in the next rolled auction
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Neo on September 03, 2011, 03:19:35 PM
That sun faded PF poster sure does look familiar.  After Dr. Caul bought it for $350, then me for $275, then to someone whom I don't know (since Ebay has hidden names) for less than $100 if memory serves me correct.  I probably shouldn't even make an analogy as to what it's like...  Good luck with it, Rich, and who knows, given it's "track record" there may be a bidding war for it now that it is probably (currently) the most iconic PF Lucky Strikes specimen there is. 
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 03:23:05 PM
oh my Gawd.. does this really go on.. you people are sick
 nono

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_01.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_02.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_03.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_04.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_05.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_06.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/animal_sex_07.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: tstatum on September 03, 2011, 03:25:53 PM
After looking at the us linen preview, I have only 2 hopes to come away unscaithed.  Maybe my Newman nemesis's will outbid me, or maybe they will fall asleep early.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 03:27:01 PM
That sun faded PF poster sure does look familiar.  After Dr. Caul bought it for $350, then me for $275, then to someone whom I don't know (since Ebay has hidden names) for less than $100 if memory serves me correct.  I probably shouldn't even make an analogy as to what it's like...  Good luck with it, Rich, and who knows, given it's "track record" there may be a bidding war for it now that it is probably (currently) the most iconic PF Lucky Strikes specimen there is. 

well, the issue was that a couple of his buyers thought it was a fake, but clearly it wasn't
he actually sold it 4 times and I had bugged him through something like 8 re-listings to put up a better photo seeing as all he had put up was a tiny  who knows what it is, or a stock photo. If he had done a good pic the first time, he would have sold it for 350-400. An inexperienced seller. It doesn't look that bad and someone who can't afford $1500 for a NM one would be happy with it I think
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Neo on September 03, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
@ the pictures  laugh1

Dr. Caul and I both reached the same conclusion that although it is authentic, the sun fading was too extensive to command the price, but who knows what others think regarding what it's worth.  If the same seller sold it 2 other times, then wow, that IS an impressive track record.   jawdrop  Geez Louise.  You're probably right, though, that to someone it is worth somewhere in your predicted range considering the "regular" price of one in very good+ condition, and they're probably not going to be lowering in price any time soon (IMHO).
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on September 03, 2011, 04:30:54 PM
Nothing wrong with a little sun damage:

(http://www.deluxairbrushtanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/george_hamiltion_3_wenn280403844__oPt.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
Mel.. did you figure out who you were debating the True Romance thing with yet?
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on September 03, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
 I think I have done a pretty good job of staying true to my quad, 3sht, 6sht, 24sht, belgian, and international hiatus.   ;D

 
  Brian

 ;D
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: CSM on September 03, 2011, 05:27:06 PM
Thanks Brian for the nice "review" of our overall service.

Your talking about daybills reminds me that we also have some Australian posters and daybills in the upcoming mini/major auction!

Here is a preview gallery of those:

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewAust/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewAust/)

Bruce

 mesmrized
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Zorba on September 03, 2011, 05:38:33 PM
Exquisite Italian 2p for To Catch A Thief....

(http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreviewitalian/large/italian_2p_to_catch_a_thief_R61_linen_NZ02952_L.jpg)

Agree 100,000%. She is beautiful. Some very lucky boy or girl may very well one day be hanging that poster on a very happy wall.
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on September 03, 2011, 05:50:07 PM
from all the galleries Bruce has posted, I guess he understands now why we want to see previews and that they are a total plus and not a minus.

I wish more images were posters I'm looking for (where's the Chandler and the Gambling Bruce?), but I also like familiarizing my eyes with potential buys so I don't forget about them
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on September 05, 2011, 04:37:12 PM
One more Fall Mini/Major Preview Gallery!

Unbacked and paperbacked one-sheets (note that this was done in an automated way, and there are a few images of inexpensive items that will not be in this auction)

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shtsunbacked/ (http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shtsunbacked/)

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on September 05, 2011, 11:43:43 PM
Thanks.  I didn't mean to imply that you were backing them.  I figured it was the consignor who backed it.  But there's a lot of ways to display it without going through the expense of backing. Alas, that's free will.

Holiday, I am sure you likely know this, but these days I NEVER back anything. I believe in letting the buyers choose who they want to do the restoration, how much restoration they want, etc.

The ones I auction backed were backed by the consignor, or someone further back, but not by me.

As to why someone backs an inexpensive one-sheet, it is so it looks its best on the wall. They are not thinking "investment" and these almost always sell for less than the cost of linenbacking alone.

Bruce
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: holiday on September 05, 2011, 11:45:06 PM
That is hard to fathom. It's one of the few posters I've bought that has really appreciated through the roof. I bought mine for $450 years ago and I choked on the price when I did so.  It was, at that point, themost expensive poster I had bought. 

I wonder how the PF Lucky Strike will fare?  Emovie has never sold one before.  My bet is $1,200.  I think an unbacked version would go for $1500.

(http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shts/large/pulp_fiction_lucky_strike_advance_linen_JC01519_L.jpg)

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Bruce on August 03, 2012, 09:45:55 AM
(http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2012Fallpreview/20120731_ad_fall2012minimajorauction.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: jayn_j on August 03, 2012, 11:04:45 AM
So, I see the same old banner for emovieposter.  Then I see that there are preview pages listed a few posts higher.  Go look at all the cool stuff.  Then I notice that brian is posting again.  Welcome back.  Then I finally say "wait a darned minute" and notice that Bruce has revived last year's thread :(
Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: Silhouette on August 03, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
I thought you were going to stop posting pics of Ted...and his hanging garden?  :P

http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/2011FallPreview1shtsunbacked/large/beefcake_JC01582_L.jpg

Title: Re: Seriously Bruce, How About a Preview of the Fall Major/Mini........
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on August 03, 2012, 09:06:15 PM
So, I see the same old banner for emovieposter.  Then I see that there are preview pages listed a few posts higher.  Go look at all the cool stuff.  Then I notice that brian is posting again.  Welcome back.  Then I finally say "wait a darned minute" and notice that Bruce has revived last year's thread :(

yes the dates fall right in line for the thread to seem new