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« Reply #675 on: April 02, 2011, 12:29:43 AM »
Nope!  Because no one is going to pay more than what he paid initially for a Gilda poster with a giant tear right up her dress!

 Looks like someone tried to seperate her legs... (or worse)...  bed1


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« Reply #676 on: April 02, 2011, 12:39:26 AM »
With a little under 3 days left, 2 bidders are sparring for this FANTASTIC french panel, for 1957's CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN, starring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. This beautiful litho, offered by empireposters, is currently at 2024.00. This piece has been paper backed by NDCC and looks pristine. This is one I would certainly not mind adding to my collection.   sm1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320677823347&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT



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« Reply #677 on: April 02, 2011, 12:54:28 AM »
I like the franky poster but Im not bidding on it. I wish though people wouldnt bid, until the last seconds. Bidding in the days before just makes me re-adjust my snipe upwards, which means a higher final price.

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« Reply #678 on: April 02, 2011, 02:49:35 AM »
I hope T wins it... ;)
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« Reply #679 on: April 02, 2011, 09:30:50 AM »
I think it's Mascii's best poster and the finest paper on this title.

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« Reply #680 on: April 02, 2011, 10:22:37 AM »
A paperbacked french 1-panel!!?!??!  It will probably cost $200+ to ship the damn thing flat!

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« Reply #681 on: April 02, 2011, 11:30:21 AM »
A paperbacked french 1-panel!!?!??!  It will probably cost $200+ to ship the damn thing flat!
I was thinking the same thing.

Looks incredible though, love the colors.

In terms of Mascii, I will always choose his large Eyes Without a Face...just my personal preference.
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« Reply #682 on: April 02, 2011, 01:03:46 PM »
It is paperbacked so it can be sent rolled...as the seller intends!

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« Reply #683 on: April 02, 2011, 01:33:12 PM »
It is paperbacked so it can be sent rolled...as the seller intends!

Mark
Depends on the paper.  I have one poster paperbacked that rolls easily. Have also seen other 'paperbacked' pieces that do not roll without a fuss, which makes it too risky.
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« Reply #684 on: April 02, 2011, 01:42:15 PM »
Can you clarify Mark?  I was always told paper backed items had to be sent flat and that is why linen backing (while maybe slightly inferior from a longevity standpoint) is typically used for anything larger than a 1-sheet...

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« Reply #685 on: April 02, 2011, 01:45:21 PM »
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

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« Reply #686 on: April 02, 2011, 01:49:56 PM »
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

Mark

Yes, paper is thinner, but I guess it has to do with what folks consider 'paper' vs. 'board'.  I was at a show last year where a guy had a six sheet on what I thought to be some sort of board.  He said it was 'thick stock archival boarding paper'.  So I think mounting outside of linen can sometimes get lost in translation...who knows.
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« Reply #687 on: April 02, 2011, 01:52:42 PM »
You must be thinking of posters mounted on card or board. Paper is thinner than linen and paper-backed posters can readily be rolled.

Mark

Nope, not thinking of board.  For instance, I had a 1/2 sheet restored and paper-backed by Sylvia at Precision Restoration and it was returned to me flat. 

Is it just a misconception that paper backed items have to be mailed flat?  Surely I can't be the only one who was told this...

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« Reply #688 on: April 02, 2011, 02:30:35 PM »
There are two kinds of proper paperbacking. One involves mounting a one-sheet (or any other poster printed on thin paper) on Japanese rice paper only (think linenbacking without the linen). If done by museum people or the very best pros, the paper is deacidified and stabilized, and restoration is done to "voids" (areas of paper loss) only.

The other involves removing the top layer of a half-sheet, insert, window card or lobby card (or any other poster or lobby card-type item printed on thick paper) and mounting it onto a heavy board backing, and then performing full restoration to the item.

You couldn't do much restoration to the first type if you wanted to because it only has a very thin layer of rice paper behind it. The second type is now on a heavy board, so all sorts of restoration can now be performed.

And of course there are many not-very-talented restorers who attempt to imitate both types of above paperbacking, but in restoration, you absolutely get what you pay for, these not-very-talented restorers charge less and deliver much less.

Incidentally, the second type should be called "board backed" which would end the confusion, but most collectors hear "board backed"  and think "mounted on board" so people don't use it that way for that reason.

Bruce

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« Reply #689 on: April 02, 2011, 02:36:53 PM »
Great info Bruce thankyou,
Can i ask a newb question?

If the decision has been made to mount the poster on thicker board,and heavy restoration done,can the backing be undone?,could you then re mount onto thinner backing?

One,Two,questions ...i`ll come back in again  ;D

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« Reply #690 on: April 02, 2011, 02:37:09 PM »
Per Sam's description section of what was done to his French FRANK one panel:

"It was paper-backed onto hand-made archival Japanese paper by the world-renowned Northeast Document Conservation Center...."

This sounds like the kind of masa paper used as the interim layer prior to backing on linen, when done.

Per his shipping details:

NOTE: this particular poster will be gently rolled into a PVC tube and sent via USPS insured mail.


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« Reply #691 on: April 02, 2011, 02:53:36 PM »
Stew,

In THEORY you can unback and re-back anything. In actuality, many items end up practically a re-creation after the process.

The Mona Lisa has been so damaged and restored it is hard to say how much original is left (but still a great painting!).

Bruce

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« Reply #692 on: April 02, 2011, 02:56:52 PM »
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)

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« Reply #693 on: April 02, 2011, 02:59:02 PM »
Stew,

In THEORY you can unback and re-back anything. In actuality, many items end up practically a re-creation after the process.

The Mona Lisa has been so damaged and restored it is hard to say how much original is left (but still a great painting!).

Bruce

Thanks Bruce  thumbup

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« Reply #694 on: April 05, 2011, 06:04:01 AM »
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)



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« Reply #695 on: April 05, 2011, 09:27:52 AM »
Maybe a great painting but I would buy this un-restored poster over that any day... ;)



Which Greek island exactly?
I want to know!  laugh1
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