Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[Harry Caul]

I remember that discussion and the fact that this thread survives should be answer enough as to whether 'outing' is still an issue.

 

[50s]

I think concensus was any item that was in Mel's budget range couldn't be discussed but if it was higher, then, fair game

[erik1925]

The Jezebel LC was also a featured/highlighted/"outed" item in HA's own Sept 18th post, so that made it even more visible and known to folks here, versus 99% of the other material that was available for auction last night.

See item #2 in their post:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,12408.0.html

[Harry Caul]

The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster!

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/sports/the-endless-summer-cinema-5-1966-day-glo-silk-screen-one-sheet-27-x-41-sports/a/161739-54113.s?ic2=mytracked-lotspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyTrackedLots-101116

[eatbrie]

I think concensus was any item that was in Mel's budget range couldn't be discussed but if it was higher, then, fair game

That was exactly it.

I don't think outing HA or Emovie is outing.  They advertise enough on this forum and if you don't know who they are and when they sell, maybe you should find yourself another hobby.  But outing an auction simply because you can't afford it is an absolute no.  It's not so much about the members here, more about all the l-urkers out there.  If you see something and you think someone else might be interested, you're free to send them a private message.

T

[eatbrie]

The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster!

I thought about getting it, but the "Fine+" kept me away.

T

[crowzilla]

Thanks for the tip on Besson's stuff.  Is it going to be at Emovie again?

My guess would be no, but we will know soon enough

[crowzilla]

The real crime is with all those random posters going so high, this gem appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle on the one day I couldn't bid!!!  Sure it has a little dirt and some scuffs, but it's unbacked and $382 is too damn cheap for this poster!

Couldn't you have bid any of the other six days it was listed for auction?

[eatbrie]

We all have specific ways of bidding.  Matt bids the day of, I think.  I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay.  If I can't do it, I miss it.

T

[Harry Caul]

Couldn't you have bid any of the other six days it was listed for auction?

It's something I've been looking for forever, but it isn't a priority as it's not that rare. And let's be honest, I didn't have any reason to think it would sell for under $1000, let alone well under $500!  Before yesterday it had only for <$1000 ONCE at Heritage when one sold for $956 3 years ago.  Otherwise all the sales have been $1000-3000.  Craziness.

[originalcinemaposters]

It's something I've been looking for forever, but it isn't a priority as it's not that rare. And let's be honest, I didn't have any reason to think it would sell for under $1000, let alone well under $500!  Before yesterday it had only for <$1000 ONCE at Heritage when one sold for $956 3 years ago.  Otherwise all the sales have been $1000-3000.  Craziness.

I have been after the quad forever and a day, now that is rare!

[erik1925]

Was the lower price possibly due to the fact that the imagery was printed crooked (veering slightly to the right?)




Another copy for comparison:

[Harry Caul]

A lot of the 1-sheets are crooked -- nearly all of them I've seen anyway.  I would imagine the straight copy you found is the outlier.

And yes, the quad is wicked rare.

[Crazy Vick]

I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay. 

Exactly.

[Crazy Vick]

While the Beauty and the Beast result is surprising, surely no one is surprised that HA knocks things out of the park weekly.

They "only" sell 400-500 items a week, but consistently bring in totals of $40-50K a week with tons of strong results.
A couple of weeks ago they sold this Barbarella Style B for over $2500 (https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/barbarella-paramount-1968-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-b-science-fiction/a/161737-52026.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515), when the last result I see from another seller on this piece is less than $600.

Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.

[erik1925]

We all have specific ways of bidding.  Matt bids the day of, I think.  I ALWAYS bid at the 5 minutes mark since I can't snipe, and within the last 3 seconds on EBay.  If I can't do it, I miss it.

T

And with emp, doing that extends the auction by 5 more minutes, allowing others to play the last minute game, too. 

[Crazy Vick]

And with emp, doing that extends the auction by 5 more minutes, allowing others to play the last minute game, too. 

if you bid slightly before the 5 minute mark, like +5:01, you're good and under the radar like.  Tricks of the trade 

[eatbrie]

Yes.  I honestly don't understand people who bid early on these auctions.  Sometimes you see posters that are obviously going to sell for more than $1,000, and some people bid $30 early on and never again.  Did they actually think they would get the item for $30?  I don't get the logic.  Anyone?

T

[erik1925]

if you bid slightly before the 5 minute mark, like +5:01, you're good and under the radar like.  Tricks of the trade 

5 min is a long time.. more than likely, someone who wants a piece will bid again, extending the time, once more. It happens all the time.

[jayn_j]

I've said it before.  An extended bid auction can have several strategies.  However, bidding $1 more than the other guy is seldom the right one.  This is proxy bidding, and all you accomplish is to raise both your and the other guy's blood pressure.

My strategy is and always has been to bid the highest price where I won't feel bad about losing the item if I'm outbid.  I generally place this last bid in the last hour before closing, AND THEN TURN OFF THE BROWSER.  People are always inching up the bid, and I can't stop them, but I think in some cases constantly being automatically overbid by my proxy causes some to drop out earlier than they might have if we were trading high bids in extended bidding.

In large auctions with staggered closing times, I will come back halfway through and maker a budget decision whether to raise my bid on later items, but I still don't wait for the hammer time.  I either won or I didn't.

Yeah, I lose some, but I never wake up the next day with buyers regret.  I also take the results to heart for future bids. If I bid $100 on poster X and it eventually went for $200, I know I'm going to need to decide if it is worth $250 to me and bid that the next time.  And heck, I sometimes win something I bid $150 on for $30.  Good feeling there.

There are very few items out there that are once in a lifetime opportunities.

[guest4531]

Yes.  I honestly don't understand people who bid early on these auctions.  Sometimes you see posters that are obviously going to sell for more than $1,000, and some people bid $30 early on and never again.  Did they actually think they would get the item for $30?  I don't get the logic.  Anyone?

T

I do throw lower bid on expensive poster, a way to monitor results when auctions end as I can just go to "My bids".  Bad logic I know :p

[guest4531]

Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.

It could be a strategy to pass the 2,000 USD consignment treshold at HA.   Ahaha, "Dear HA, based on previous results, my two posters for consignment are valued 2250 usd"...

[erik1925]

Like most high end rollers at HA, two non-movie poster collectors deciding to buy a movie poster for this first time.

Why do you think (or how do you know) that the high end bidders and winners at HA's auctions are non-movie poster collectors?

Im thinking that many of the deep pocketed folks who bid there are serious (yet quiet) collectors with major collections.

[erik1925]

Not mid-auction, but a "mid-BIN."

This Japanese poster, for the film, Ugetsu (1953), listed for a Buy it Now of $6500.00   
It measures 27x39 inches.

I really like the imagery, regardless.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UGETSU-1953-Rare-39x27-poster-for-Japanese-cinema-classic-CLEAN-design-trifold/221801527578?hash=item33a466b91a%3Ag%3A4ZwAAOSwl8NVfhRM

[crowzilla]

This Japanese poster, for the film, Ugetsu (1953), listed for a Buy it Now of $6500.00   
It measures 27x39 inches.

That's a very strange size, wonder if Walter measured it correctly.