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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2012, 02:34:00 AM »
When you trim, I would leave a wee bit more of the linen.
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2012, 07:35:37 AM »
I prefer mine with 2 inches so I can pin em to the wall without tearing through it and also having the extra buffer when rolling them up and storing vertically against crumpling poster edge under that weight


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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2012, 07:48:44 AM »
When you trim, I would leave a wee bit more of the linen.

Well I will have to admit I knew I needed to leave more (to pin up) but I botched the masa job on this first one.  :-[  There was a bubble near the top (didn't realize until I cut it down - but suspected a problem in that area) and it didn't adhere very well probably because of the lumps, so I only had about 1/4" on the top past the poster after I cut it down.  Trimmed it to be symmetrical....  The Heartbreak Ridge was spot on everywhere so no problem leaving more this time.... 

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2012, 08:08:56 AM »
Use a syringe to inject wheat paste into the air pocket.

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #79 on: April 10, 2012, 08:21:50 AM »
Use a syringe to inject wheat paste into the air pocket.

Yeah, sure... "wheat paste"  ;)

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #80 on: April 10, 2012, 09:58:54 AM »
Use a syringe to inject wheat paste into the air pocket.

Nice. I'll have to try this next time...

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #81 on: April 10, 2012, 10:00:29 AM »
When you trim, I would leave a wee bit more of the linen.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing.  But the more you leave, the bigger pain in the ass it is to frame
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #82 on: April 10, 2012, 10:01:13 AM »
glue the whole sucker to the wall.
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2012, 10:05:53 AM »
glue the whole sucker to the wall.

Is that how you Aussies hold your houses together now?
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #84 on: April 10, 2012, 10:07:38 AM »
we soak noir daybills in flour and water and make papier mache bricks.
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #85 on: April 10, 2012, 10:15:29 AM »
we soak noir daybills in flour and water and make papier mache bricks.

Best use for daybill ever  thumbup
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2012, 12:45:40 PM »
we soak noir daybills in flour and water and make papier mache bricks.

That's akin to sacrilege!
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2012, 10:03:28 PM »
Charlie - I want to see you tackle some actual restoration now (yeah, I know we are moving quick!).

Let's see how the colouring goes on the fold lines?

Well I tackled the Heartbreak Ridge and perhaps was expecting too much since it was a shiny black.  The pencil didn't really want to stick and to get it to stick I had to really lay it on.  I then blended it with a blending stick but it became abrashive on two of the folds.  I think using the airbrush would have been a better option but I haven't played with that yet.

Non-the-less here is a comp...  It does look very much improved but I just don't know if perfection was attainable on this one without some heavy manipulation.  I could have sanded the folds and airbrushed them; but that is all I can think of.  Maybe not the best poster to start on; black ever the contrast even for black!




So it will go unless otherwise stated Unbacked, Backed (no resto), Touched Up

Full Poster....




Top Right....




Lower Right....




No pre-backed photos here on out
Top Center... This one was a bitch.  I am thinking the only way to fix this is with sand paper and an airbrush....  This fold was really rough prior to backing.



Lower Left... This one came out nice...



Lower Center...



Let me know what you think.  All my linenbacked posters are pre 1980, so I had no examples of the shiny poster paper to compare to...  Your input would be greatly appreciated.  Would you be satisfied with this?
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2012, 10:05:54 PM »
 clap clap clap

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2012, 10:10:38 PM »
Not all that bad Charlie.  The real question is "are YOU satisfied with it?" - since you are backing these for your own use.

Shiny posters are a bitch and are very unforgiving in hiding restoration. 

Maybe try a cheaper old litho poster and I bet the incolouring will look a lot better...
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #90 on: April 10, 2012, 10:26:37 PM »
Not all that bad Charlie.  The real question is "are YOU satisfied with it?" - since you are backing these for your own use.

Nope! If I had paid $100+ for this I would be disappointed...  But I am a perfectionist.  I think when I get some more money (as I am upwards of almost 1K in with everything at this point) I will sand it down and airbrush it to see if it makes a difference.  I keep wondering if there is a water soluble clear coat to make it shiny?  Or a safe way to buff a watercolor...  Anybody heard of this? 

I am definitely satisfied with the quality of the backing job.  Dario's suggestion to get a higher quality canvas was spot on...  I was looking at my other linen backed posters and you can tell the difference.

I am confident I can back a poster now; the resto (which is the meat of it) will be a discovery from this point...

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #91 on: April 10, 2012, 10:36:51 PM »
Your input would be greatly appreciated.  Would you be satisfied with this?

Yes, but I am also not a perfectionist :-[ Your pulpfixin restorations are a real inspiration to me. If there where more folded poster in my personal collection i'd be taking more notes and asking more questions!

I'd be more then willing to send you some shiny folded MMA posters to play with... if you destroy them oh well eyeroll but i'm sure you have more then enough people hitting you up for a cheap restoration ;)

Thanks for the pic's and keeping us updated, u da man!!!

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #92 on: April 11, 2012, 01:27:39 AM »
far as I know, getting the BLACK on the clay based posters is VERY hard (probably goes for other colours also). Older posters are easier, but soon as gloss is involved, its never going to be perfect.
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2012, 01:46:25 AM »
Top work Charlie  :)

Looks great

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2012, 04:05:08 AM »
wanna have a go on this?  :P

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2012, 07:22:55 AM »
wanna have a go on this?  :P



Don't think I am quite ready to tackle this one...  ;D

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2012, 10:25:38 AM »
For a guy that just started backing a few days ago, looks like you are doing quite well.  thumbup

Not as advanced as Ari's but I might have some work for you in the future  8)

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2012, 11:22:47 AM »
Man I just watched one of those Chris Cloture videos and suddenly realized I am doing pretty good so far... He didn't wash it, soak it, etc.  He just slapped wheat paste and threw it up...  How is that conservation?  But I guess CC is not exactly the cream of the crop.

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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2012, 12:09:04 PM »
But I guess CC is not exactly the cream of the crop.

That could be the understatement of the year!
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Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #99 on: April 14, 2012, 09:55:31 PM »
Child labor laws do not apply for amateur works, right?  Daughter wanted to stir the wheat paste...

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