James Bond

[Harry Caul]

GREAT LIST, SIMES!!!

Can you add the TB Premiere quads, Simes?
Basically, they were from the advance quad but each image is in quad format.

I don't think these were quads.  I've seen a set of two advance UK 40x60s.  Each one has has half of the TB advance quad on it.  So if you put them together side-by-side they would make a huge advance poster.  If you've seen these images in quad size, I'm guessing they were 40x60s that were cut in half.  Here are photos of 40x60s.  Talk about rare...

[AdamCarterJones]

I've seen this image before, but the images I have are of individual posters.
If they are 40x60, then good research Matt! :-)

[Harry Caul]

I've seen this image before, but the images I have are of individual posters.
If they are 40x60, then good research Matt! :-)

The images above were from an auction listing them as "uncut" 40x60s. So maybe these were intended to be trimmed into quads?  I'm vaguely recalling that Bruce auction a set of 4 TB 15"x20" posters that had originally been printed as a quad. The were some sort of advance (by not the known TB advance) where theater owners were encouraged to cut them up and display in various configurations. Maybe these 40x60s were produced with a similar intent...

[Tang Lung in Rome]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjVugnRltxA&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Wu7xS1OWs&feature=youtu.be

[longdog]

The images above were from an auction listing them as "uncut" 40x60s. So maybe these were intended to be trimmed into quads?  I'm vaguely recalling that Bruce auction a set of 4 TB 15"x20" posters that had originally been printed as a quad. The were some sort of advance (by not the known TB advance) where theater owners were encouraged to cut them up and display in various configurations. Maybe these 40x60s were produced with a similar intent...

From the information I was given by the person who had a set of these several years ago they were indeed 30x40 per image and the quality & texture of the paper matched other posters from that period. He had never seen or heard of a set before (as neither had I) but wondered if I could help provide any further info. None of these appeared in the UK press book (only the quad comprising of all four images) so it was obvious these individual posters were not intended for use around the UK and their obscurity backs this theory up.

However, I was later informed by someone who was at one of the two London 'Thunderball' premieres that he vaguely recollected them being used then but he'd not seen them on any occasion since.

I've just done a quick search and found this image of the premiere night at the London Pavilion. If you look carefully at the lower right near the cinema entrance (just alongside the 'L' in Thunderball) you can just make out what appears to be two of the four artworks possibly displayed in an uncut 40x60 format.



Paul.

[paul waines]

These will most likely of had the two uses, but primarily they are a U.K. 4 Sheet and will of been printed as such. 4 Sheets very rarely ended up in the press-books, they were considered with the likes of Bill-board posters, and other large formats. They may have been cut in some cases, but these Are printed as 4 Sheets. 

[Harry Caul]

From the information I was given by the person who had a set of these several years ago they were indeed 30x40 per image and the quality & texture of the paper matched other posters from that period. He had never seen or heard of a set before (as neither had I) but wondered if I could help provide any further info. None of these appeared in the UK press book (only the quad comprising of all four images) so it was obvious these individual posters were not intended for use around the UK and their obscurity backs this theory up.

However, I was later informed by someone who was at one of the two London 'Thunderball' premieres that he vaguely recollected them being used then but he'd not seen them on any occasion since.

I've just done a quick search and found this image of the premiere night at the London Pavilion. If you look carefully at the lower right near the cinema entrance (just alongside the 'L' in Thunderball) you can just make out what appears to be two of the four artworks possibly displayed in an uncut 40x60 format.



Paul.

Good stuff Paul!  Interestingly enough, the two images visible appear to be the "Look Up" over the "James Bond Does it Everywhere" poster.  If the images I posted are indeed uncut then someone at this premier cut them and then re-ordered them! 

[Harry Caul]

By the way, here is the "special" 30x40 Thunderball poster I was referring to at eMovieposter.  I guess that makes one more special "exhibitor" advance Thunderball quad (sized poster)!  Although, Bruce has this listed as a US poster and the currency and NSS info seem to corroborate that...


http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/7899418.html

An Original Vintage Theatrical Linenbacked Special Movie Poster (measures 15" x 20" [38 x 51 cm])

Important Added Info: Note that this is a very unusual poster! The original pressbook tells that theaters could order a "sensational multi-use four-unit display", which was a 30" x 40" poster with four sections. The instructions in the pressbook say that theater could use the poster just as it was, or cut the four sections apart and display them vertically, horizontally, or one at a time separately. The theater that used the poster offered here must have cut it into four pieces and then used each individually, and only the one being offered survived. These posters are incredibly rare, both individually, and together!

Condition: very good. The poster had four sections, and what is offered here is one quarter of the original poster (see above). But as is explained above, theaters were encouraged to cut the poster into four pieces and use them separately, and that is what this theater did. The section that is present is in really nice condition, BUT PLEASE DO NOT BID ON THIS POSTER UNLESS YOU CAN ACCEPT THAT IT IS ONE QUARTER OF THE ORIGINAL POSTER (as explained above).

[longdog]

Good stuff Paul!  Interestingly enough, the two images visible appear to be the "Look Up" over the "James Bond Does it Everywhere" poster.  If the images I posted are indeed uncut then someone at this premier cut them and then re-ordered them! 

I think you're right. I've just taken a look at my copy of 'The Battle for Bond' (interesting history about the behind the scenes controversy of Thunderball) and there is a clearer picture of the London Pavilion premiere from a slightly better angle. On the lower left is another 'Jetpack' artwork but underneath it appears to be (but difficult to be certain) the 'underwater battle' art indicating this could of been an uncut sheet.

[Harry Caul]

Yes, after I posted I noticed the second set of posters behind the street lamps... looks exactly as you say -- Look Up over Look Down.

[andyvee]

Following new chap's thread about Bond jpgs and 'books that don't have every poster', I mentioned it might be an idea to see just how many UK Bond quads there are in existence if one was to publish in book form, all of them.  I said off the cuff that there might be around 80 such examples.

In fact, I have counted 103.  These are below.  Please add and detract as you see fit; well, maybe 'add', as I don't see any to detract as such.

1   Dr No Quad
2   Dr No Quad - Irish
3   Dr No Reissue Quad
4   FRWL Quad
5   FRWL Quad - Irish
6   FRWL Reissue Quad
7   FRWL Premiere Quad
8   FRWL Remastered Quad
9   Goldfinger Quad
10   Goldfinger Quad - Irish
11   Goldfinger Remastered Quad
12   Thunderball Teaser Quad
13   Thunderball Quad - Irish
14   Thunderball Quad
15   CR Quad
16   YOLT Text Only Teaser
17   YOLT Quad (Bathtub)
18   YOLT Quad (Little Nellie)
19   YOLT Quad (Volcano)
20   OHMMS Quad
21   DAF Quad - A rating
22   DAF Quad - AA rating and Soundtrack info
23   DAF Marler Hayley
24   LALD Quad
25   LALD Marler Hayley
26   Gg Quad
27   Gg Marler Haley
28   Spy Teaser Quad - Calendar
29   Spy Quad
30   Spy Quad Seiko Advert
31   Spy Remastered Quad
32   Spy Marler Hayley
33   Mr Quad
34   Mr Quad with Alternate credits
35   Mr Quad Seiko Advert
36   Mr Marler Hayley
37   FYEO Quad
38   FYEO Marler Hayley
39   Octopussy Teaser Quad
40   Octopussy Quad
41   Octopussy Marla Hayley
42   NSNA Teaser Quad
43   NSNA Quad
44   AVTAK Teaser Quad
45   AVTAK Quad
46   AVTAK Marler Hayley
47   TLD Teaser Quad
48   TLD Teaser Quad (Girl)
49   TLD Quad
50   TLD Marler Hayley
51   LTK Teaser Quad
52   LTK Quad
53   LTK Marler Hayley
54   GoldenEye Teaser Quad
55   GoldenEye Quad
56   TND Teaser Quad
57   TND Quad (Spelling mistakes)
58   TND Quad (Reissue)
59   TWINE UK Teaser Quad
60   TWINE UK Quad
61   DAD UK Teaser Quad
62   DAD UK 2nd Teaser Quad
63   DAD UK Quad
64   CR UK Teaser Quad (Coming Soon)
65   CR UK Teaser Quad (November 17)
66   CR UK Quad
67   QoS UK Teaser A Quad
68   QoS UK Teaser B Quad
69   QoS UK Quad
70   QoS UK Quad - Piracy Warning
71   Everything or Nothing Quad
72   SF V1 UK Teaser Quad - October 26
73   SF V2 UK Quad - Bond lying down
74   SF V3 UK Quad - Gunbarrel / London - Odeon Competition
75   SF V3 UK Quad - Gunbarrel / London - IMAX
76   SF UK Quad - Piracy Warning
77   Dr No / FRWL - yellow background
78   Dr No / FRWL - yellow background with boxed lines
79   Dr No / FRWL - white background
80   Dr No / Thunderball
81   Dr No / YOLT
82   Dr No / Gf
83   Goldfinger / Thunderball
84   Goldfinger / Thunderball (text only)
85   YOLT / Thunderball
86   YOLT / FRWL
87   YOLT / OHMSS
88   DAF / FRWL - without central typsetting
89   DAF / FRWL - with central typsetting
90   DAF / OHMSS
91   LALD / OHMSS
92   Gg / LALD - diagonal split design
93   Gg / LALD - RM in central circle design
94   Spy / LALD
95   Spy / LALD b/w
96   Mr / Spy
97   Mr / Gg
98   FYEO / Mr
99   Oct / FYEO
100   Oct / FYEO / Thunderball
101   James Bond Festival teaser
102   James Bond Festival
103   James Bond - Spend Sundays with

About your list above, why the "more conservative" Irish versions of the first Bond movie Posters (Dr. No, FRWL, Goldfinger and more) are not mentioned almost anywhere? The two books I have only mention the Irish version of Goldfinger, none for the others that I know an Irish version exists. 007 Magazine also only mentions Goldfinger's. Why is that? Were these versions really produced? Does anyone have an original?

[Simes]

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19801/lot/56/

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/From-Russia-with-love-British-Quad-poster-/400449182603#ht_1321wt_1285

I cannot find an image of an Irish Tunderball quad but I have seen one in person.  Perhaps I should have taken a picture of it at the time.  But it is of the same ilk as the above.

Cheers.

[andyvee]

Oh! Thank you, Simes. Nice findings.

The listing of the removed ebay auction says, about the FRWL poster, that "this poster has had the Irish Censors draw clothing over the girls so is in need of a good Linen backer and restorer to wash and clean the poster and to do there (sic) magic."

Does that mean that these posters, maybe even the Irish Dr. No and the others, except for Goldfinger's, had the conservative clothing actually hand drawn on top of the original posters? That would mean they were not printed officially and that each of these Irish posters (with exception of Goldfinger's) were drawn one by one? That sounds crazy...

Andy

[Simes]

It's a good question, but I would imagine there would have been one chap doing one 'painting over' and the result printed thereafter.

I have not seen one of these quads up close to feel textures etc. and I am not aware how many cinemas there were in Ireland in the 60s but surely one chap would not have hand covered multiple posters...

Would he?

That said, I have sold a Cool Hand Luke poster that had been Irish-ed, and that was printed.  Paint blobs an' all.

[paul waines]

The Irish posters are all hand drawn over except the Goldfinger, which was printed up like that. That is why you will never see prints of those, as technically they are de-faced...!

It's not just Bond posters they coloured in bits they didn't like, there are many other posters too, some worse than others... You need to see the poster for John Wayne's Legend of the Lost..

[andyvee]

The Irish posters are all hand drawn over except the Goldfinger, which was printed up like that. That is why you will never see prints of those, as technically they are de-faced...!

It's not just Bond posters they coloured in bits they didn't like, there are many other posters too, some worse than others... You need to see the poster for John Wayne's Legend of the Lost..

Nice! This explains it! Finally! 

So they are not "official", that is why the books make no mention to them. Now it makes sense.

Still, that is a crazy idea, I would never had guessed it. To hand paint over the original posters one by one... I would assume that Ireland (or is it the Republic of Ireland... I never know...) had too few theaters at the time.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Simes]

The Irish posters are all hand drawn over except the Goldfinger, which was printed up like that. That is why you will never see prints of those, as technically they are de-faced...!

It's not just Bond posters they coloured in bits they didn't like, there are many other posters too, some worse than others... You need to see the poster for John Wayne's Legend of the Lost..

Ok - ,

I stand corrected.

[andyvee]

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38   FYEO Marler Hayley
39   Octopussy Teaser Quad
40   Octopussy Quad
41   Octopussy Marla Hayley
42   NSNA Teaser Quad
...

You list 3 quad posters for Octopussy. I know the main one and I found TWO other quads that are not this Marla Hayley thing. Here are they:

http://prntscr.com/1tnlq6
http://prntscr.com/1tnluc

The second one does not look like having a quad format but the book I have about JB posters, the old one, shows it and says it is a UK quad. Is it right? If so, your list would be missing one quad?

And about Casino Royale, 2006, there is an Advance with November 17 and I found another quad Advance with November 16, or is the November 16 one of the other posters you listed for CR? It seems there may have one more CR quad poster.

A last question is: the FRWL Reissue, is it a poster with a completely different graphics than the regular one or it is the same graphics but reissued?

Thx.

[Simes]

Your first link is the teaser.

Your second link is a trade ad that was placed in magazines like Screen International - it was never a quad.  There are several mistakes of this nature in both the Tony Nourmand book and the recent 50 year anniversary book.

Can you post an image of the CR November 16.  I personally have not come across a quad with that date but that is not to say one has not been printed.  As before, there may be many digital versions online but what has actually been committed to print will decide its poster status.

The Russia reissue you will see here - labelled here as Quad B.
http://www.bondposters.com/From_Russia_With_Love_1963.php

Cheers.

[andyvee]

...
Can you post an image of the CR November 16.  I personally have not come across a quad with that date but that is not to say one has not been printed.  As before, there may be many digital versions online but what has actually been committed to print will decide its poster status.
...

Thanks for the info. Please, see a picture here:
http://bond.dpvqb.com/WP_20130927_001.jpg

It is in the front page of the Casino Royale section of the 50 Years of JB Movie Posters book.

[Simes]

Ah, firstly that is not an Advance, that is the main release.

Secondly, I believe you will find the below is what was printed whereas what you have identified is what I was alluding to earlier - that someone has created a digitised image of something for other purposes but that which itself was not actually printed.

http://www.filmonpaper.com/posters/casino-royale-quad-final-uk/

Quick check with the other forum members though - was AndyVee's poster ever printed chaps??  I am believing not.

[andyvee]

I don't know, I am almost sure it is an official printed poster.  See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)

and here

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/389157/20120928/james-bond-50-years-christies-auction-skyfall.htm

And there are more...

It is indeed extremely similar to the regular quad, actually the same but with the date added and the credits a little higher to make room for the date.

[Simes]

You know what, Buy the poster and then post the result. We deal in paper here.

Cheers.

[andyvee]

You know what, Buy the poster and then post the result. We deal in paper here.

Cheers.

Well, I bought the book about posters, written by "experts". You guys are also supposed to be experts. Buying the poster may not be the solution because it is known that there are many counterfeits around, posters that are not officially licensed, so I run the risk of buying counterfeit. Knowledge is important. But if you guys don't want to share the knowledge, since I am not asking for files anymore, only knowledge, which a forum is supposed to provide, then it is ok. It is your choice.

Cheers.

[andyvee]

My new "virtual acquisition".