Post-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[Crazy Vick]

Some lucky guy got this, sold for $464 at heritage two weeks ago.  So you know Grey this is not a "special poster" its a common size Canadian medium poster from Cinepix.  Anyone here get it?

Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS (Cambist Films, 1975). Rolled, Very Fine/Near Mint. Special Poster (23" X 35")
https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/exploitation/ilsa-she-wolf-of-the-ss-cambist-films-1975-rolled-very-fine-near-mint-special-poster-23-x-35-exploitation/a/162345-51215.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

 

[Neo]

So you know Grey this is not a "special poster" its a common size Canadian medium poster from Cinepix.  Anyone here get it?

I think Grey is with PropStore now and not Heritage; Bruce Carterton would be the Heritage person to contact.  Good luck   

As for the poster itself, nice image of Ms. Thorne (minus the symbols and stuff) but the movie genre is too zany for me.

[Neo]

6 out of 7 of the highest selling lots at eMovie today were Mexican lobby cards.    Looks like popular titles, with quite a lot of Universal horror, although it's difficult to see exactly what all sold with the lack of titles in the description.  Seems like it would be best for big titles, names, etc. like that to have them listed in the description, so potential bidders could search for them in the current auctions, and so there would be easily searchable post-sales history.

[Neo]

The title art artwork on this one looked really zany, and I was surprised to see the price jump so quickly to over $300 in the first day of a 10 day auction:

Winning bid: $996!  These 80s slasher flicks are getting hot.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225886906869?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rhgoxefuswg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=t2uZ4plJ

[Mardukas]

Wow! That is an unbelievable price. Makes the Sleepaway Camp video posters look like a steal!

[Neo]

Wow! That is an unbelievable price. Makes the Sleepaway Camp video posters look like a steal!

I think it's a pretty solid deal, considering its genre popularity, rarity, condition, etc.  I'm slightly biased with my appreciation for video posters but it seems like they're all gaining a lot more attention lately.  For so long, a lot of folks just said they're worthless and trashed them, and maybe that's why with the increased demand there seems to be significantly fewer of them than their theater counterparts, and of course a very limited number for titles that were straight to video.  It'll be interesting to see which ones from extremely rare to not known to exist, will appear in the future.

[eatbrie]

Thoughts on Propstore?  I thought the last guy was absolutely too fast with the hammer.  There were 3 items that I had to think about between bids and by the time I made up my mind it was over.  Like 2 seconds and done.  At the beginning, waaaaaaay to slow.  Like they were waiting sometimes 10 seconds before the hammer fell.  Also, seems like a lot of items were way under estimations.  I don't know if they were too high or if they didn't reach enough bidders.

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[Antoine1973]

Thierry, did you get any luck there today?

I had a different experience with the auctioneer as I felt that he was going rather slow to try to gin up more interest in the room; that's probably because my lot came fairly early in the sale (I didn't see the rest after I won it since there was only 1 item I was interested, so I missed whoever came after who apparently was on a faster track).  I won the 1946 French re-release of Bride of Frankenstein, which I've always found stunning, so I'm happy about that.   

[eatbrie]

My point actually.  Extremely slow at first, too slow, and then way too fast later on.  Like someone realized they had spent way too much time early on and told the auctioneer to speed it up.  I mean, the last guy was flying through.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who missed on items for that very reason.

And beautiful, Antoine.  Great great poster.

I got a Jaws 1/2 sheet.  Not a fan of the format, but now that I am putting the last touches on my Spielberg collection (almost 2,000 posters) I need to get all these pieces that I've been avoiding all these years.  I also got a Shadow of a Doubt style D linenbacked poster.  Yes, linenbacked.  I have the style C folded and I have been waiting and waiting for the style D.  It is my favorite Hitchcock movie, and the Master's fav too.  The last one that sold was 10 years ago, also linenbacked, so I had no choice.  Also, the one sheet size is quite easy to store in a drawer, even linenbacked.  This is a perfect example of my "I had no choice" moment.



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[riley540]

So much went under value I feel. Philadelphia Story one sheet usually sells for 10k plus, and even fetched 30k at HA a few years back. Went for under 5k today!

I bought the Mr. Smith Goes to Washington insert. Love that movie and the poster doesn’t come around often.

[Neo]

Some auctioneers are very annoying .  I had a similar issue with the too fast hammer in an antique auction a few months ago.  Slow slow slow at the start of a few lots I was bidding on then they got a few bids and before I could even enter a number they ended them.  Maybe their friends or business associates were bidding and they wanted them to win    Considering the prices antiques sell for in auctions compared to the extremely inflated prices they sell for in stores, it wouldn't surprise me.  Anyway, nice acquisitions, y'all.

[Tob]

Nice wins there, chaps. Lovely looking posters.

Good luck if you're going for more today...

[eatbrie]

Just connected.  Super super low bidding.  So many posters for grab.

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[wonka]

Anyone get anything? Was busy today, couldn't partake. One got away from me that I wished I put an absentee on.

[eatbrie]

Got a few small things... Mostly collection fillers like Diamonds Are Forever 1sht, Raiders of the Lost Ark wilding and 1/2 sheet, a few Star Wars...

I am amazed at people paying more money for signed posters (Becket COA, please  ).  This continues to baffle me.

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[Neo]

A few of those signatures are so bad.  I'm no "expert" on signatures, but some are just squiggly lines with no attempt to even make it look like a written name.  I've seen people sign stuff like that so I'm not saying they're all fake, but who really knows?  Something like that right in the middle of the artwork or just not well placed really detracts from the piece, whereas clearly legible signatures that seems more likely to be legit, can add to it, IMO.

[eatbrie]

That’s the thing.  Signature experts… that’s some BS right there.  So many big names of the past had their assistants learn their signatures and use it at will.  And now people buy those signatures for a lot of money with zero guarantee it is legit.  I just don’t get it.

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[Neo]

Signature experts…

There really is a stark contrast between fancy signatures and so much of the squiggly line junk all over eBay, etc.  For some of those fancy signatures, I think one could make a good case that it's authentic, especially stuff like documents, but just some random squiggly line with an unvalidated COA is pointless IMO.

[bigmike]

Thoughts on Propstore?  I thought the last guy was absolutely too fast with the hammer.  There were 3 items that I had to think about between bids and by the time I made up my mind it was over.  Like 2 seconds and done.  At the beginning, waaaaaaay to slow.  Like they were waiting sometimes 10 seconds before the hammer fell.  Also, seems like a lot of items were way under estimations.  I don't know if they were too high or if they didn't reach enough bidders.

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I wanted that Nosferatu Italian poster. But seemed way too steep for my pockets. Oh well. Next time I guess..

[eatbrie]

There really is a stark contrast between fancy signatures and so much of the squiggly line junk all over eBay, etc.  For some of those fancy signatures, I think one could make a good case that it's authentic, especially stuff like documents, but just some random squiggly line with an unvalidated COA is pointless IMO.

We've had this conversation multiple times in the past.  I personally see ALL signatures as fake.  Signatures are meant for the person they are signed for and I really do not comprehend what kind of enjoyment people get from scribbled lines they will 1) never know for sure are authentic and 2) were not meant for them.  But at the end of the day, I collect movie posters and 99% of sane individuals roll their eyes at it.  So who knows hahaha

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[marklawd]

Fortunately, I know for sure 95% of my autographed posters are not fake because I obtain the signatures directly from the person concerned. This afternoon Sofia Coppolla signed Virgin Suicides for me and Richard Curtis signed Love Actually - incorporating a Christmas tree in his autograph! I enjoy the brief interraction I have with such individuals and because I'm fussy about how and where I ask them to sign the poster they seem to recognise me as a genuine collector rather than a dubious dealer. I don't really understand either why people pay money for autographs they didn't obtain themselves, particularly if they are blindly trusting the verification provided by commercial companies.

Mark

[eatbrie]

Well said, Mark.

If signatures are your gem, what you described is, to me of course, the ONLY way to get them.  In person.  Even if you and I were close friends and you decided to part with your signed posters, I wouldn't touch them because they were not signed to me.  I think I own 2 signed posters.  An Almost Famous poster signed by the entire cast that was the official Premiere poster and that I got while working at DreamWotks, and a Mad Max poster signed to me by George Miller (a very close friend to my of my best friends).

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[Neo]

I personally see ALL signatures as fake.

It's understandable, considering the number of fakes, the bold marker pens that are much more easily faked nowadays, half-hearted signings, etc.  The signatures that I think are arguably the most historic are on stuff like documents, and have a "signature style"  like those on the Declaration of Independence.  As you said, though, to each their own.

[Neo]

Fortunately, I know for sure 95% of my autographed posters are not fake because I obtain the signatures directly from the person concerned. This afternoon Sofia Coppolla signed Virgin Suicides for me and Richard Curtis signed Love Actually - incorporating a Christmas tree in his autograph! I enjoy the brief interraction I have with such individuals and because I'm fussy about how and where I ask them to sign the poster they seem to recognise me as a genuine collector rather than a dubious dealer. I don't really understand either why people pay money for autographs they didn't obtain themselves, particularly if they are blindly trusting the verification provided by commercial companies.

Mark

Very cool, ML.  Sounds like you've met some famous folks and acquired some cool signatures.  I have a few autographs I acquired that way when I was a teenager.  It's just not my thing anymore.  I saw a video recently where a guy at an airport asked the lead of Third Eye Blind to sign stuff - he had a stack of records- and the Third Eye Blind guy quizzed him on names of their songs and stuff, then agreed to sign one with a personalized note to him.  It was an interesting interaction.

[eatbrie]

All true, Neo.

I collect books too, nothing extravagant like Holiday or Antoine do, but I have the (almost!!!) complete collection of Stephen King books (76 total, all first edition, first printing, mint copies and DJ, still missing 4) since I love movies and well, he's got something to say about movies.  Tons of books are signed by King, but I also stay away from them.  Fake, fake, fake, nothing easier than to replicate a signature.  People spend A LOT of money on those signed copies.  Tens of thousands of dollars.  The only time I buy them is when a special page has been added to the book for his signature.  That, I believe is real haha

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