Author Topic: linen (Read 17878 times)

holiday · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2011, 10:12:36 AM »

Quote from: Louie D. on March 30, 2011, 07:53:27 AM

Excellent, glad to know where you stand, Rich. I am making a chart on everyone who has replied to this thread with their personal preference so when the issue comes up again next week, I'll just post the info so we know where everyone stands on the issue.

paul waines · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:53:05 AM »

I wouldn't spend a $1 on the 1932 Dracula.................Now the 1931 Dracula is a different mater

From what I have seen, linen backed posters tend to go for a little more money than unbacked. I'd like to bring Bruce in if he's about, as he may have better info on this. If I'm right, why is this??

I am in the only if the poster is in need of it Camp, and no posters after 1980 should be backed, why waste the money just buy a better copy...

Disheveledamethyst · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:57:31 AM »

Quote from: paul waines on March 30, 2011, 11:53:05 AM

I wouldn't spend a $1 on the 1932 Dracula.................Now the 1931 Dracula is a different mater

From what I have seen, linen backed posters tend to go for a little more money than unbacked. I'd like to bring Bruce in if he's about, as he may have better info on this. If I'm right, why is this??

I am in the only if the poster is in need of it Camp, and no posters after 1980 should be backed, why waste the money just buy a better copy...

I think they go for more because the whole linen-backing process costs money. Since they're putting $50 or more in some cases into having the poster backed, people with LB posters think the poster absorbs this value.

jayn_j · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:20:18 PM »

Quote from: paul waines on March 30, 2011, 11:53:05 AM

I wouldn't spend a $1 on the 1932 Dracula.................Now the 1931 Dracula is a different mater

Ouch. What can I say? I've been staring at Airbus requirements all week and making sure everything is mapped. All my eyes can see is tiny little arrows

Disheveledamethyst · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:23:08 PM »

Quote from: 50s on March 30, 2011, 09:23:45 AM

They handle better and is easier to PIN to a wall.

*faints*

Harry Caul · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:25:28 PM »

Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on March 30, 2011, 11:57:31 AM

Since they're putting $50 or more in some cases into having the poster backed, people with LB posters think the poster absorbs this value.

If someone is only putting $50 in linen-backing, I definitely don't want it! Most quality restorers will charge at least $100 just for backing, not including restoration and/or labor. Usually a 1-sheet works out to about $150-$200.

CSM · « **Reply #31 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:35:50 PM »

Quote from: Disheveledamethyst on March 30, 2011, 12:23:08 PM

*faints*

Actually pinning a backed poster to the wall is not really that bad at all. The excess linen around the poster allows for this sort of thing.

A nice alternative to framing a three or six sheet me thinks but you have to sure noone is going to spill beer or something worse on the unframed and naked poster!

Disheveledamethyst · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:48:36 PM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 30, 2011, 12:25:28 PM

If someone is only putting $50 in linen-backing, I definitely don't want it! Most quality restorers will charge at least $100 just for backing, not including restoration and/or labor. Usually a 1-sheet works out to about $150-$200.

I think I knew that. I don't know why I put $50. Sometimes I try to come up with rational numbers on the fly and wind up with low ones. The other day a friend of mine was talking about buying a new car and I said something like "Buy used, buying new would cost you over a thousand dollars". Needless to say there was an awkward moment of silence.

Quote from: CSM on March 30, 2011, 12:35:50 PM

Actually pinning a backed poster to the wall is not really that bad at all. The excess linen around the poster allows for this sort of thing.

A nice alternative to framing a three or six sheet me thinks but you have to sure noone is going to spill beer or something worse on the unframed and naked poster!

*refrains from fainting*

erik1925 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:47:54 PM »

Quote from: paul waines on March 30, 2011, 11:53:05 AM

I am in the only if the poster is in need of it Camp, and no posters after 1980 should be backed, why waste the money just buy a better copy...

I am with you on this, Paul and am of the same thought. Post 1980 posters are so prolific that it makes zero sense to back a copy that has been ripped or damaged in some way. Just pick up another that is bound to come along.

I had 3 pieces backed-- a 1920's French one panel, a 1927 pre-war Belgian and a 1936 French (this one is an odd size--it measures about 27x39 if i remember). The one panel had some fold separations and the paper was brittle and needed to be washed, too, as much of the background area is white. I was afraid to unfold it multiple times to even look at it. The other french had weakening fold areas and needed to be de-acidified. The Belgian was delicate and printed on thinner paper. So my reasoning was from a conservation and preservation standpoint, only.

I had no restoration or painting done, leaving them as is. I just didnt want them to eventually fall apart, so opted to have them backed.

Jeff

paul waines · « **Reply #34 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:27:06 PM »

My problem is, I have 4/5 posters that "need" backing, but I keep spending the money on other posters...

I must get them done, in fact my Belated new years resolution is to have them done by Christmas.

Harry Caul · « **Reply #35 on:** March 30, 2011, 02:52:45 PM »

Quote from: CSM on March 30, 2011, 12:35:50 PM

Actually pinning a backed poster to the wall is not really that bad at all. The excess linen around the poster allows for this sort of thing.

A nice alternative to framing a three or six sheet me thinks but you have to sure noone is going to spill beer or something worse on the unframed and naked poster!

I currently have my R68 Fistful of Dollars Italian 4-foglio up on the wall with binder clips while I'm piecing together framing... I couldn't wait to get it on the wall!

brude · « **Reply #36 on:** March 30, 2011, 09:48:14 PM »

Quote from: holiday on March 30, 2011, 12:28:09 AM

Ted, where's my beating-a-dead-horse animation?

Confucius say: "Beating a dead horse is much easier than branding a live one."

holiday · « **Reply #37 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:57:38 PM »

Quote from: brude on March 30, 2011, 09:48:14 PM

Confucius say: "Beating a dead horse is much easier than branding a live one."

Ouch! When I was 7, I got kicked by a horse just like that (not branding him, just whacking him in the ass with a stick), and it almost killed me. Thanks for the memories!

brude · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:31:33 AM »

Quote from: holiday on March 30, 2011, 11:57:38 PM

I got kicked by a horse just like that (not branding him, just whacking him in the ass with a stick), and it almost killed me. Thanks for the memories!

Whackin' him with a stick, eh? That'll learn ya....

idioteque · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2011, 02:45:33 AM »

Quote from: brude on March 31, 2011, 01:31:33 AM

Whackin' him with a stick, eh? That'll learn ya....

Man " I - told - you - no - Linenbacking"

Horse "Fuck off"

ddilts399 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:23:05 PM »

Quote from: Louie D. on March 30, 2011, 07:53:27 AM

Excellent, glad to know where you stand, Rich. I am making a chart on everyone who has replied to this thread with their personal preference so when the issue comes up again next week, I'll just post the info so we know where everyone stands on the issue.

Don't forget to put me in the "Linen still sucks" column on the spreadsheet.

CSM · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:25:31 PM »

Those look really nice Mel.

Can you share what restoration was done on each?

Dread_Pirate_Mel · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2011, 11:28:37 PM »

Quote from: CSM on June 21, 2011, 11:25:31 PM

Those look really nice Mel.

Can you share what restoration was done on each?

I specifically requested minimal restoration on the French Line, just slight airbrushing of the spots on the face where the NSS stamp showed through. Not sure about the others, as I bought them already linen-backed.

SHOCKWAVE · « **Reply #43 on:** June 22, 2011, 12:00:45 AM »

Quote from: brude on March 31, 2011, 01:31:33 AM

Whackin' him with a stick, eh? That'll learn ya....

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!! my friggin god man thats AWESOME im pissing my pants !!!

and im new and back a poster NO!!!!

lololololol hard to type when your rolling on the floor laughuing out loud lololololo

nighty night !!!!!! lolololololo

Ari · « **Reply #44 on:** June 22, 2011, 12:07:21 AM »

Sometimes they need it, and cripes when they do and you have a good restorer they look GREAT.
Depends on motivation I guess, for reselling Id say no, but if you love a poster and it needs help, then go for it, and PIN IT TO YOUR WALL.

SHOCKWAVE · « **Reply #45 on:** June 22, 2011, 12:08:06 AM »

Quote from: CSM on March 30, 2011, 12:35:50 PM

Actually pinning a backed poster to the wall is not really that bad at all. The excess linen around the poster allows for this sort of thing.

A nice alternative to framing a three or six sheet me thinks but you have to sure noone is going to spill beer or something worse on the unframed and naked poster!

but waht about being exposed to air and light ?wont that hurt them ?if cased in glass then only light an issue no ?

CSM · « **Reply #46 on:** June 22, 2011, 01:26:24 AM »

Quote from: SHOCKWAVE on June 22, 2011, 12:08:06 AM

but waht about being exposed to air and light ?wont that hurt them ?if cased in glass then only light an issue no ?

Well I don't think air is going to hurt them - afterall trees REALLY like carbon dioxide!

Ari · « **Reply #47 on:** June 22, 2011, 01:44:01 AM »

unless your talking about a valuable and genuinely rare poster (ahem Metropolis) who cares? Enjoy them, they want to be on walls not boxes.
And BTW not that I care, but behind glass, there is humidity to worry about and moisture.
IMHO of course.

Tang Lung in Rome · « **Reply #48 on:** June 22, 2011, 04:51:06 AM »

LOL , my linen backed posters looks like a buncho sky scrapers in the room

jayn_j · « **Reply #49 on:** June 22, 2011, 10:05:18 AM »

I am in the minimal linenbacking camp myself.

I think too many folks are into the "they have to look perfect" camp which causes posters to be linenbacked when the only defect is a minor crossfold separation. I would only linenback when the poster is falling apart and is worth the cost of linenbacking. I guess I am cheap, but the poster had better appreciate in value at least the cost of the restoration.

I am not a purist though. I have purchased linenbacked posters and will continue to bid on them. However, I will not pay a premium over a non backed poster of similar condition.

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