San Francisco Bans Guns on OTHER GUYS Movie Posters?

[brude]

I guess this is old news (having been reported August 5) but I just heard about it today.
Makes me wonder how collectible/valuable these "variants" might become...

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/08/the_other_guys_movie_poster_di.php

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

What will them liberal commie pinkos ban next?  Bikinis?  This country is going to hell in a handbasket, I tell ya!  Everybody know that guns are the best way to get rid of the surplus population.  After all, a couple thousand yokels in pickup trucks can't be wrong, right?

[kovacs01]

I am not even sure they can constitutionally do that........what say the lawyers in here?

[Zorba]

Ban guns on movie posters? My first reaction wass what a pathetic bunch of self righteous blowhard assholes.

After further thought however. It makes sense. It is afterall San Francisco.
 
 

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

I am not even sure they can constitutionally do that........what say the lawyers in here?

Until a couple of years ago, the answer was a clear yes.  Now, the same group of five justices who appointed George Bush have adopted gun rights as their pet cause, so these types of laws are now under attack.

[Zorba]

Until a couple of years ago, the answer was a clear yes.  Now, the same group of five justices who appointed George Bush have adopted gun rights as their pet cause, so these types of laws are now under attack.

I would think that this is more a violation of the first amendment than the second amendment...but yeah I can see where this unconstitutional on two fronts.

Though it really does seem MUCH more of a censorship issue than a gun rights issue to me.

Seriously. Think of all your posters. How many have guns?...Every one of the five poster(Bonds) I have framed in this room Im typing this in has a gun on it.

It really is a joke.

[guest8]

I hate this kind of mentality ... They think if we dont talk to kids about sex they wont experiment .. if we hide all images of guns there will be less violence ... Whats next, stop selling ice cream so that Americans dont get fat? This ostrich way of thinking just doesnt work and I wish people would just realize that and educate people instead of making them ignorant of all the facts and more likely to make a stupid choice when they are faced with these difficult decision .. Now I have to decide .. Rocky Road or Oreo ice cream ... hmmm ?

[brude]

It's pretty simple.  Government -- local and federal -- believes that we must be managed, like cattle.  We are too stupid to make decisions on our own.  We need the government to tell us how to think.  We don't know right from wrong.

We should all just wake up.

[Harry Caul]

Am I not understanding something here?  Personally, I don't think this ban will have the intended effect... however, if it is in the T&C of advertising with Muni, shouldn't they be allowed to enforce it?  We aren't talking about a city-wide ban or anything...

I would think libertarians would be coming to defense of Muni.  They came to the defense of Rand Paul when he said private businesses should have the right to discriminate against African-Americans (he apparently doesn't think they *should* but that they should have the right [to be racist]).  The Muni doesn't want violent images (however poorly they define it from one ad to the next) in their buses, but they have a different T&C for advertising outside the buses that does allow it.  Shouldn't they have that ability?  To me this reeks of double standards...

Just because it is is about "guns" doesn't mean it is a constitution issue.  If you don't like Muni's advertising policies, advertise elsewhere.  Reminds me of Republicans and Libertarians saying the constitution is a sacred document when anyone mentions gun control, but they are more than happy to scrap the 14th amendment!

[Zorba]

Just because it is is about "guns" doesn't mean it is a constitution issue.  

1)"Guns"....Never had a gun never will. Except in my posters. 
2)Libertarian....I aint no libertarian. Im a Canadian. 
3)Censorship...To me, thats exactly what its about. If it isnt a constitutional issue. It should be.

[eatbrie]

Well, that's just plain ridiculous.  As liberal as I am, I see no harm in having guns on posters.  These people are idiots.

T

[brude]

Well, that's just plain ridiculous.  As liberal as I am, I see no harm in having guns on posters.  These people are idiots.

T

Well, that's just plain ridiculous.  As conservative as I am, I see no harm in having guns on posters.  These people are idiots.

You see, T, we agree.
Ted
 

[eatbrie]

 

[Harry Caul]

Let me be clear... I think their no-displays-of-violence policy is misguided at best.  AND I'm 100% for constitutionally-supported free speech.

However, I don't see how the terms and conditions of a Muni advertising policy falls under that banner.  Should we demand that they allow graphic porno advertising posters up too?  Free speech doesn't mean free reign.

I mean, come on here people... we don't cry constitutional infringement when a TV station denies an advertisement because it violates their T&C.

[Zorba]

Well, that's just plain ridiculous.  As conservative as I am, I see no harm in having guns on posters.  These people are idiots.

I dont see why this has to be political.

I would say the same thing no matter what they banned off of the posters. They are assholes.

[Harry Caul]

What will them liberal commie pinkos ban next?  Bikinis?  This country is going to hell in a handbasket, I tell ya!  Everybody know that guns are the best way to get rid of the surplus population.  After all, a couple thousand yokels in pickup trucks can't be wrong, right?

Ha ha... This is too funny in this context!

Can you believe they pulled Mel's bikini/guns picture because it violated Photobucket's T&C!  So we should all grab our pitch forks, right?  We need to rise up to protect our constitutional right to camel toe!

[Zorba]

Ha ha... This is too funny in this context!

Can you believe they pulled Mel's bikini/guns picture because it violated Photobucket's T&C!  So we should all grab our pitch forks, right?  We need to rise up to protect our constitutional right to camel toe!

No pitchforks but if they did indeed pull it cause the broads are too hot for them we should call it as it is. They are assholes.  

[Harry Caul]

I have no problem calling asshole, on Photobucket or SF Muni.  I was just taken aback when people started waving the bill of rights and their don't tread on me flags!

Lets try to keep things in perspective...

[Zorba]

I have no problem calling asshole, on Photobucket or SF Muni.  I was just taken aback when people started waving the bill of rights and their don't tread on me flags!

Ya but they do have the right to be that way. Its in the magna carta or somewhere

Thats a great example with phobucket. What if it was some other city run by right wing nuts taking the hot broads off of posters instead of the guns. That would be just as bad. I dont think censorship is ever good.

Perspective is good. Those muni assholes should get some.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

That's what you get when you use a free service, bastitches:

[brude]

So, back to my original question: will these posters become those extremely valuable, hard-to-find variants that every one of us will want in 10 years?
Does anyone here own one?
Have other posters been altered in this fashion?  If so, what titles?
Thanks, poster whores!

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

So, back to my original question: will these posters become those extremely valuable, hard-to-find variants that every one of us will want in 10 years?
Does anyone here own one?
Have other posters been altered in this fashion?  If so, what titles?
Thanks, poster whores!

Hmmm, well I think we all agree that movie posters will be phased out in 3-5 years, if not before.  Very very few post-1990 posters, especially Photoshop montage posters like this one, will retain any meaningful value.   Future buyers will want the classics only, not forgettable movies like this (or ever rarer "varients" of such movies).

[brude]

Well, I am not writing off paper that quickly. Even if they were to do the unthinkable and stop printing posters altogether, I think that would make any existing paper even more valuable than we would have expected.
I agree that it is a forgettable title but....variants like this are unusual and (I am assuming here) the print run was probably miniscule.
If this was a bigger film and the art was so drastically altered, it would probably soon be worth a fortune.
It would be great if we could be updated on Muni's next alteration, if any.
 

[guest8]

I do agree that one day they will do away with posters but I dont think it will be even as soon as in the next 5 years .. maybe 10-15 ... As for this poster .. Had it been another title I agree that it may have made a difference .. But not with this film .. I dont think either version will be worth much more than wrapping paper

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

We are rapidly heading to a "Minority Report" world.  In 15 years in new houses every wall will be a huge touchpad/monitor/screen.  You'll be able to project/display any movie poster on your "wall" for zero cost.  All printed/physical media - posters, books, records, etc. - will seem quaint.  

Still, some people will want to collect and/or display physical posters, just like some people collect first editions of old books, even though you can download out-of-copyright books for free.  But they'll only want the very very best old posters, not the junk from the last few years of movie posters.