Author Topic: Question about Japanese poster size (Read 8257 times)

wormie · « **on:** August 29, 2015, 11:22:40 PM »

I recently came across a fully folded poster for Mononoke. It measures approx. 31x43 (slightly bigger than B1), the graphic and text is really sharp with erin mark and everything, but on ultra thin paper. It was really cheap so I didn't think and bought it. I'm not sure if anyone knows anything about this size or this poster. I suspect it is from some promotion book or magazine, but I'm not sure. I appreciate all your opinions. Thanks in advance.
Here is a picture:

brude · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:01:59 AM »

While we wait for Japanese poster pros to weigh in on your question (which I don't have an answer for), I just want to say that I love that design.
Mononoke is one of my all-time favorites and that poster is the bomb.
I do hope it is an original and you display it proudly for many years to come.

Posteroid · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:11:51 PM »

If it has an eirin mark, it is no promotion poster but a regular movie poster (promotion posters are not allowed to carry eirin marks). It is also no tie-up poster because it only advertises the film, no other products or services (tie-up posters carry eirin marks). So it is definitely the real thing.

The size is odd though because even without the white borders it seems too large for a B1. Not sure what they used it for.

Armin

wormie · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:57:02 PM »

Quote from: Posteroid on August 30, 2015, 03:11:51 PM

If it has an eirin mark, it is no promotion poster but a regular movie poster (promotion posters are not allowed to carry eirin marks). It is also no tie-up poster because it only advertises the film, no other products or services (tie-up posters carry eirin marks). So it is definitely the real thing.

The size is odd though because even without the white borders it seems too large for a B1. Not sure what they used it for.

Armin

Thanks Armin. Sorry that the picture is a little confusing. The poster does not have a boarder. The boarder is just another poster underneath.

erik1925 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2015, 07:04:50 PM »

I like this poster very much, wormie.

Congrats on the pick-up!

wormie · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2015, 07:12:58 PM »

Quote from: erik1925 on August 30, 2015, 07:04:50 PM

I like this poster very much, wormie.

Congrats on the pick-up!

I like it a lot. It is different from the vertical design. But the more I like it, the more I want to know its origin.

erik1925 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2015, 08:42:25 PM »

Quote from: wormie on August 30, 2015, 07:12:58 PM

I like it a lot. It is different from the vertical design. But the more I like it, the more I want to know its origin.

I have one that I picked up about a month ago..also a Japanese piece. It's an odder size and its subject matter (the imagery) is almost "propagandistic." I know a few things about it, but not a lot. And, like yours, wormie, the size is off and bit from the normal printed sizes. I will post it shortly.

That being said, I can empathize with you.. totally.

wormie · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2015, 12:48:49 AM »

I think I figured it out where this poster was from. I didn't even read carefully the fine print of the posters at the corner before I saw somebody else sells another copy with better picutres than mine (http://www.mandarake.co.jp/information/2015/05/17/21nkn02/). It was indeed from a magazine, called "Animage". The magazine is published by Tokuma Shoten since 1978. Many of Hayao Miyazaki's work was serialized in this magazine. In 1997, the magazine features The Princess Mononoke and this poster was folded and attached at the back of the magazine. I'm not sure if an eirin mark is appropriate for such a promotional poster in magazine. Anyway, still try to find a cheap way to hang it and still try to fine a B1

Thank you all for your input.

Posteroid · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2015, 01:54:34 PM »

First time I am seeing something like this. There are not many Japanese reprints and usually they are B2 size and vertical.
Eirin marks are only for cinema posters, video posters for example do not carry one. But reprints do because they are recreated from the original cinema posters.

Armin

Mirosae · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2015, 04:02:51 PM »

Congratulations Wormie, and thank you for sharing this information. Hayao Miyazaki's work is so unique and wonderful. What a treat. Enjoy it. Hope you will frame it soon ( hope you can share how it looks all framed up here too!)

Mirosae · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2015, 04:04:51 PM »

Quote from: brude on August 30, 2015, 12:01:59 AM

Mononoke is one of my all-time favorites and that poster is the bomb

Aren't you a wise owl

wormie · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2015, 08:13:56 PM »

Thanks for your kind word Rosa. I will post pictures once it is up on the wall. It will be a pain with the irregular shape though. Hayao Miyazaki is indeed unique and I enjoyed his animations as a child and as an adult. Hopefully one day, I will get most of the posters for his movies. I know I have no chance to get even close to Holiday or some of you guys, but hopefully get a little bit closer

Quote from: Mirosae on September 07, 2015, 04:02:51 PM

Congratulations Wormie, and thank you for sharing this information. Hayao Miyazaki's work is so unique and wonderful. What a treat. Enjoy it. Hope you will frame it soon ( hope you can share how it looks all framed up here too!)

wormie · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2016, 05:39:09 PM »

This is very interesting price for this particular poster. Not sure if the buyer still want it as much after he/she sees this thread. http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/animation/princess-mononoke-toho-1997-japanese-b1-43-x-305-/a/7125-86689.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

Quote from: wormie on August 29, 2015, 11:22:40 PM

I recently came across a fully folded poster for Mononoke. It measures approx. 31x43 (slightly bigger than B1), the graphic and text is really sharp with erin mark and everything, but on ultra thin paper. It was really cheap so I didn't think and bought it. I'm not sure if anyone knows anything about this size or this poster. I suspect it is from some promotion book or magazine, but I'm not sure. I appreciate all your opinions. Thanks in advance.
Here is a picture:

erik1925 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2016, 06:24:30 PM »

Wormie, by comparison, can I ask (a general ballpark figure), for what you picked up your copy for?

wormie · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2016, 07:12:02 PM »

Quote from: erik1925 on March 28, 2016, 06:24:30 PM

Wormie, by comparison, can I ask (a general ballpark figure), for what you picked up your copy for?

I think I paid 1200 yen for the poster and 2000 yen for the shipping with five other B1s.

erik1925 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2016, 07:30:20 PM »

Quote from: wormie on March 28, 2016, 07:12:02 PM

I think I paid 1200 yen for the poster and 2000 yen for the shipping with five other B1s.

So 1200 yen equals (today) about $10.58 USD and another $17.65 USD for shipping of your six B1 posters.

The one on HA sold for $776.75 (w/BP).

I'd say you got Quite the bargain there, wormie! Congrats again!

wormie · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2016, 08:32:38 PM »

The price in HA is crazy to me considering this is a magazine poster to begin with. It is not a rare poster, not $700 rare for sure. I think the price realized in emovieposter is more reasonable to me. http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/2769972.html

eatbrie · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2016, 09:01:48 PM »

The poster HA sold is a magazine poster? Are you guys positive it is the same poster? What happened to the white borders? If it is a magazine poster (which HA didn't specified) then someone need to let Grey know so he can tell the buyer.

T

guest4754 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2016, 09:17:52 PM »

Yeah like T said someone should let them know, they advertised it as a B1. Certainly appears to be the same poster to me.

Quote from: eatbrie on March 28, 2016, 09:01:48 PM

What happened to the white borders?

That was just a poster he had underneath it when he took the picture I believe.

Harry Caul · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2016, 09:18:05 PM »

Not a hard poster to find for like 2000-3000 yen. T, I believe the white 'border' in the pics is probably just the paper it was rolled up in. The poster doesn't have a border. And this isn't definitive, but *I think* all the copies I've seen were folded like a French poster -- two times in each dimension -- presumably so it would fit in the magazine. Was the HA copy folded? Regardless, someone should probably tell Grey...

EDIT: Never mind. I just pinged Grey on this...

Harry Caul · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2016, 10:05:23 PM »

Grey already responded that he's on the case!

I also found additional confirmation (separate from the mandarake link above) that this was included in the August 1997 issue of Animage, a magazine covering primarily anime.