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« Reply #8550 on: June 29, 2020, 06:35:56 AM »

Jeff pipped me on a Rings on her Fingers stone litho one sheet a few years back.

He used to buy sporadically. I believe he still has this poster.
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« Reply #8551 on: June 29, 2020, 02:14:42 PM »
This is a question many people have asked me over the years, and I never got an answer.  I knew he never bought from Bruce, since Bruce couldn't stand him and vice versa.  He posted a couple of things over the years, but really, I don't think he was a collector.  First mistake.

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I was asking him that too for years - as nice as I could.

Just curious Jeff,  do you actually own any posters?  I 've yet to see you post in latest acquisitions or my collection threads. Serious here not just being an ass...

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« Reply #8552 on: June 29, 2020, 03:09:07 PM »
Hahaha!!!

Retrospectively, I guess it was really stupid to make a moderator out of someone who doesn't even collect.  Live and learn, as they say,

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« Reply #8553 on: July 08, 2020, 04:14:04 AM »
Just want to point out a great result from Emovie as they seem to get a few negative price comparisons against Heritage on here.

Last night they sold a Leave Her to Heaven US 1sh for $3400!!

That's a mad result but one the consignor will be very happy about.

Heritage's last one sold for $2702 inc BP (15%) so final selling price just under $2300. (3 others in the past 6 sales, all in the last 2 years sold for less than $1400inc BP)




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« Reply #8554 on: July 08, 2020, 08:35:58 AM »
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. Need that to happen to me on the occasions I send something off.
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« Reply #8555 on: July 08, 2020, 04:24:50 PM »
HA will have to change the description of their Bambi quad in its sig auction - it's R57
i only know this because EMP currently has one for sale. HA one is in better nick though ;D

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« Reply #8556 on: July 09, 2020, 09:49:25 AM »
That's not right.

Bruce's one has the Plus Sammy the Way Out Seal.

Heritage's one doesn't and that's why that one is a '42 release.
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« Reply #8557 on: July 09, 2020, 11:08:19 AM »
???
you haven't read EMPs description have you?

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« Reply #8559 on: July 10, 2020, 03:51:22 AM »
So then Heritage's Bambi quad is actually the same as emovie's 1957R Bambi quad but emovie's was butchered to add the "Sammy the Seal" advertisement....but Heritage is advertising theirs as a 1943 release.... did I get that right?

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« Reply #8560 on: July 10, 2020, 04:33:37 AM »
^looks that way - no mention of RKO on HA quad. also no young Bambi which would have been stupid to leave off a first release poster? (i have a 4 page 1942 english trade advert for Bambi which has nicer art than that poster)

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« Reply #8561 on: July 10, 2020, 10:42:07 AM »
HA will have to change the description of their Bambi quad in its sig auction - it's R57
i only know this because EMP currently has one for sale. HA one is in better nick though ;D

I'm pretty sure HA and EMP both have first issue Bambi quads.
The Stafford number number in the lower right is 6217A, the A is only used on pre-1950 quads, and I'm sure the 6217 means it's early 40s.

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« Reply #8562 on: July 10, 2020, 11:17:25 AM »
^my trade advert says 'distributed by rko radio pictures ltd'. wouldn't an original quad say this too?

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« Reply #8563 on: July 10, 2020, 11:52:41 AM »
^my trade advert says 'distributed by rko radio pictures ltd'. wouldn't an original quad say this too?

Not in this particular case, the Stafford numbers don't lie.

This is also pictured in the Branaghan book on page 66 and credited as being 1942. I guess one could always double check with either him or Edwards.
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« Reply #8564 on: July 10, 2020, 12:09:27 PM »
^so you don't agree with what EMP wrote?
i am still not convinced as i don't see how the art on a trade ad can be better than the final poster

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« Reply #8565 on: July 10, 2020, 12:20:51 PM »
^so you don't agree with what EMP wrote?

Not when he's incorrect, no.

And just verified with Greg Edwards that it is indeed a 1942 original.

To review,
the author of The International Film Poster says original
the author of British Film Posters and the professor of  British Cinema at De Montfort University labeled it as original.
The "A" suffix automatically disqualifies it from being a post-1950 quad, and the 6217 Stafford code lines up with 1942.

That's good enough for me.
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« Reply #8566 on: July 10, 2020, 12:32:40 PM »
ok
wonder if emp will change its listing or if its price has shot up ;D
this is my trade ad - only 5 and that was less than 2 years ago

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« Reply #8567 on: July 10, 2020, 12:35:25 PM »
ok
wonder if emp will change its listing

Only when they get corrected by someone who isn't me  laugh1

Love your trade ad, it's very pretty.
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« Reply #8568 on: July 10, 2020, 01:53:26 PM »
The art on that trade ad is lovely.

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« Reply #8569 on: July 10, 2020, 03:31:46 PM »
And just verified with Greg Edwards that it is indeed a 1942 original.

I love it when a supposed expert doesn't know what they have.

This mis-identification may be worse than selling a 1949R Casablanca international one sheet as a 1960s film festival reprint

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« Reply #8570 on: July 10, 2020, 04:44:42 PM »
Not in this particular case, the Stafford numbers don't lie.

This is also pictured in the Branaghan book on page 66 and credited as being 1942. I guess one could always double check with either him or Edwards.

This is very humorous. Like many here, we too thought the printer info in the bottom right made it surely an original.

But just to be 100% certain, we DID double check with Sim Branaghan (something none of you did), and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!

So we listed it that way because the best expert we know, Sim Branaghan, told us the information. If he decides he is wrong, we will gladly change it back.


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« Reply #8571 on: July 10, 2020, 04:49:47 PM »
This is very humorous. Like many here, we too thought the printer info in the bottom right made it surely an original.
But just to be 100% certain, we DID double check with Sim Branaghan (something none of you did), and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!
So we listed it that way because the best expert we know, Sim Branaghan, told us the information. If he decides he is wrong, we will gladly change it back.

Cool - so now we have the war of the experts.
Sim Branaghan - R1957
Greg Edwards - Original

I like both of these guys and trust their opinion immensely, so no idea anymore.
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« Reply #8572 on: July 10, 2020, 05:17:28 PM »
... and he told us he feels certain it is a 1957 re-release, and that the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information!

If the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information, does that mean the original did indeed have Walt Disney Productions info and not RKO?
Things that make you go hmmm...
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« Reply #8573 on: July 10, 2020, 05:45:43 PM »
If the distributor was too lazy to change the printer information, does that mean the original did indeed have Walt Disney Productions info and not RKO?
Things that make you go hmmm...

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« Reply #8574 on: July 10, 2020, 06:48:48 PM »
I went to look on the internet for the other example of the quad Bruce referenced and did come across this listing from a UK seller.
Anyone know him?
https://www.originalposter.co.uk/fulldetails.asp?rid=23498

It's interesting to note that he says only the first release mentions "multiplane technicolor" (also mentioned on redman's flyer), which would match up with the hype on the EMP and HA copies.
He also mentions the type of "U" symbol used for the BBFC rating, and I looked at the one used on Cinderella (1950) and some other 50s posters, and it is definitely different from those.

The mystery deepens.
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