Printed Originals in the UK

[Harry Caul]

Does anyone know Oliver Brinicombe-Scarr from Printed Originals in the UK?  They stole the image of my original 1958 Sunset Boulevard Polish A1. https://printedoriginals.com/products/sunset-boulevard-polish

When asked for close-ups of their poster, they sent images of the 1980s reprint on textured paper.  I could *almost* forgive them if it was some sort of honest mistake.  But when asked why the emailed close-ups did not match the poster on their website, Oliver sent this bullshit response:

"We sourced 2 of these pieces from the same supplier at the same time, and the product image is from the other piece – which has since sold. You are indeed correct about the printing information on the lower left side being absent from the photographed example vs the one photographed for the image. We have reached out to our supplier to enquire about this and I will get back to you should we have any information or if we are able to source another featuring the text in place of this one.”

To be clear, this Oliver chap has never owned my poster.  I bought mine more than a decade ago directly from a collector in Poland.  They obviously know they are using a stolen image with the hopes of defrauding unsuspecting buyers. Dishonest dealers like this are terrible for the hobby.  I guess it’s a quick way to a make a few thousand quid though

Here is my original: http://marqueeposter.com/product/sunset-blvd-1957-polish-a1/

Here is a screenshot of their website incase they pull the listing out of embarrassment:



Here is a comparison of our posters.  They even took the time to doctor my image -- they cropped the top 1/2" to get rid of the missing corner and a series of small tears along the top, and they colored over the faint tear in the lower center.  They apparently forgot to fix the paper chips on the left margin and touch up the flaws in her hair, which are still visible on both posters:



Here are the photos they sent of the actual poster they will ship you after paying 3850 GBP!









People steal my images all the time and there isn't a whole lot I can do about it so I usually let it slide.  But this particular egregious and fraudulent instance really pissed me off.  Whatever... I'm sure they consider themselves a good person and that this is all the fault of their "supplier" 

[50s]

So he is selling an 1980's $100 reprint as a 1957 original for £3850? And the image used to sell has been taken without permission from your website which was then photoshopped to make it look mint.

I've been scammed before on a big ticket item (by Debi Jacobson), but £3850 is a whole lot more.

This needs to be shamed if the above is the case which it appears to be. His website claims to not sell reprints. I'd like to know why he is using your photo and why he is selling a reprint.
Maybe you could add a review to productreview.com. He also doesn't mention his name on his website which seems a bit evasive, however his details are available when looking up Companies House records.  He seems to be hiding his name when looking up the website domain name records.



 

[filmposter.net]

That is quite disturbing. The price would be fairly modest for an original, so they obviously know they have a reprint.

Unfortunately, stealing images has as long history in this hobby and is still going on. Ages ago, some guy from  Japan even stole my camera logo and remodeled it for his website. Not much we can do about it I‘m afraid.

I obviously pondered over the idea of putting a watermark on my photos, but eventually decided against it.
By intention, my website images are always a bit crummy and low resolution. For anyone interested in a poster I will of course send larger photos on request. The main reason you see those white magnets in all of my photo is to show that the poster you are seeing is exactly the poster you are buying, not one like it or similar to it.

And while I refuse to show my face on the web, there are also several photos of myself on the site.

Helmut

www.filmposter.net

[Harry Caul]

The price would be fairly modest for an original, so they obviously know they have a reprint.

That was my thought as well.  Even after I told them the photos didn't match and the poster they are selling was a 1980s reprint -- a week later and it's still for sale!  It sure seems by design to me.

I also posted this over at MOPO.  Another dealer (the owner of rockpaperfilm.com) replied and said they had also stolen several of their images including a Hustler R64 1-sheet.

I also noticed they are selling the Bob Peak style Apocalypse Now German A1 -- which of course they claim is original. However, the photo they are using is the Mondo art print version from 2022.  What the odds that if someone purchased it they would end up shipping the well-known bootleg?    https://printedoriginals.com/products/apocalypse-now-german

For all you collectors out there... I would avoid https://printedoriginals.com/ like the plague.  Even if something they are selling is confirmed to be an original, I don't think you can trust them to conduct an honest transaction with so many red flags.

[Hicks77]

Sorry 50s (Not defending the printed originals site in anyway) but the seller on those listings on 1stDibs is based in Wincestire UK, which is where the printed originals site is based.  So those reference images may just be PrintedOriginals posting his own (where ever he may have first got them ....) listings.

I'm definitely avoiding this dealer .... the response to Matt's inquiry reeks of "What the heck is that?"

[50s]

Oh, ok, that is good spotting Hicks77. I am happy for the admins to remove my last post if they like.

[Tob]

Thanks Steve and Hicks77. Steve, I removed your post as suggested as it does appear like he likely sells through that 1st Dibs website and those are his images, so I will remove to keep the waters clear in terms of Matt's original grievance. Good eye though spotting that the images are the same! No wonder you're so good at the 'guess the poster' thread.

Matt, it looks like they reference Trust Pilot on their website, so perhaps a review to recommend future buyers exercise caution with regards to authenticity might get some traction with the owner.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/printedoriginals.co.uk

[redman]

wow that is bad!
maybe he was/is planning an insurance fiddle...
or maybe everything is fake
somebody inform Trading Standards please

[50s]

Thanks Tob!

Notice in Harry Caul's first post, the image of the website poster listing contains the tree logo:


Printed Originals used this logo on every poster page stating they plant one tree for every poster sold.

Printed Originals have now removed the logo from every poster page and also deleted the 'Sustainability' page discussing the partnership with the tree business as there is no partnership between them.


https://printedoriginals.com/products/sunset-boulevard-polish

[sisisimoore]

It's a shame that some companies like this are just either oblivious to selling reprints or too lazy to take proper photographs themselves. Especially for pieces like this which cost thousands.

[Neo]

Yet another example why it's best to do a little research before dealing with some folks.  Good work there, y'all.

On another note, that is a great concept for an environmental project, and could make a huge impact in some cases.  Reminds me of a story about Sebastião Salgado, a famous photographer, and his wife.  They have planted 2.5 million trees on their land in Brazil, transforming it to its former glory.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/WdZQKNLWhFg" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/WdZQKNLWhFg</a>