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About some James Bond posters
« on: September 08, 2013, 10:16:37 PM »
Hello all,

I have recently become a "collector" of movie posters!

Well, not quite. Too many movies, too many themes, so I decided to become a collector of only James Bond movie posters!

Still not quite. There are too many countries, and so I narrowed a little bit more my choices to the two countries that one can say are "more relevant" to James Bond. UK, first and above all, of course, and then, well, US, after all, I found out that Barbara Broccoli lives in California... :-)

Still, after reading a lot about JB posters, I found that there are too many formats, sizes, etc. I needed to narrow even more. So I chose UK original quad and US one sheet.

That narrows my collection to only around 60 posters. That is achievable!!

Well, not really. Dr. No UK quad original can be found for around $25k! That means, I will never be able to afford it and certainly even if I could I would not spend $25k in a movie poster. My dad would disinherit me, my wife would divorce me, my dog would bite me, my daughters would just not understand what's going on ...   Just kidding.

So, all considered, I decided to collect PICTURES of the mentioned posters! That is correct, the images, jpg files of those 50-60 posters.

Even if I had all these posters for real, I would not have enough free wall here at home to hang them and even if I had, my wife would never allow me to. So, jpg files are good enough. I can rotate them easily as wallpapers in my big monitor and I certainly will stare at them much more often than if they were hanged in some wall.

So, after reading, searching and studying about JB UK quad and US 1-sheet posters, I got questions. Here they are:

1 - Die Another Day (DAD)

This page, http://www.007magazine.co.uk/factfiles/factfiles_dad.htm, shows a small image for the UK Quad. I cannot see in this small image, the date "20.11.02", in red, at the bottom of it. This is the only site that shows the DAD UK quad with such image (poster with NO date). Any and every other site always shows the same poster but with the date down there. Official posters that show James Bond posters like this
http://www.posterparty.com/images/james-bond-23-british-quads-movie-poster-PYR33026.jpg
also show the date. The book "James Bond, 50 Years of  Movie Posters", that shows the UK Quad at the beginning of each section for each JB movie, also shows, for DAD, the UK Quad with the date.

My question is: as far as I could figure out, final versions of posters, like UK quad and US 1 sheet, are not supposed to have the movie release dates, release dates are supposed to exist in "Advance" posters. Why then I cannot find anywhere the DAD UK Quad WITHOUT the said date, except for this one site?

2 - Moonraker (MR)

I have found credible pictures of real original UK quad for MR where some show the big writing as:

"Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as James Bond 007 in Ian Fleming's Moonraker"

while others show:

"Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in Moonraker"

Are there really two versions of the UK Quad for MR?
If so, is any of them more valuable than the other?

I noticed that in later posters (from previous and later movies), it is always "... "Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in ..." so I would guess that the other way to write it should be kind of out of the pattern. Am I right?

3 - The Living Daylights

Why is it so difficult to find information about the UK quad for TLD style B, the one in blue background with the sexy lady in white dress? It seems nobody cares much about this poster, maybe because style A, as I read, was the last JB poster manually drawn by an artist while probably Style B was not entirely manually drawn...

4 - Finding the pictures in high resolution.

I had a very very hard time trying to find high resolution pictures of the posters. I was actually about to give up when I found ha.com. This site was the only one that keeps records and images for all its past sales and I was then able to find nice, big images of almost all the posters that I wanted. BUT a few remain missing, mostly the newer ones (Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall).

Is there a way to "get" high resolution images of these four movies?

I understand movie posters are copyrighted material, so I even bought the book "James Bond, 50 Years of  Movie Posters", hoping that it would show ALL main movie posters for all James Bond movies and it ALMOST does that. It does not show the UK Quad final for Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall, instead, it shows Advance for all of them. Why, I don't know. I felt betrayed to have bought the book, find that for every section of every movie it always starts with the UK Quad final, but for the three most recent movies, it does not. Makes no sense...  (the book shows only ONE poster for Skyfall...)

My plan was to scan them but first, these three movies are missing the posters that I want, and secondly, the UK quad images are printed across two pages, which makes scanning the images very difficult. Anyway, I would destroy the book if necessary, to have the pages isolated and then get a good scan (and then "glue" the two parts with photoshop) even the book had these posters.

So, my question is... is there a good soul willing to send me good scans of those movies, UK quad and US 1 sheet? Why do I need high resolution? Well, my monitor is 2560x1600px. I can find Skyfall UK quad for sale at 50 sterling pounds, but it is interesting that only a few years after, it is impossible to find UK quad for Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace... You can find UK Quad for Casino Royale (1967) but you cannot for CR 2006. Go figure...

Well, that was it. Thank you.
Andy

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 10:35:49 PM »
Look at www.emovieposter.com. They have an auction history with pictures of just about everything they have sold. Personally I would rather look there then on HA. Also www.movieposterdb.com might have what you are looking for.

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 10:36:28 PM »
Not a Bond fan myself and so know only the cursory basics and can't help - but welcome to APF!
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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 11:14:18 PM »
Welcome to APF Andy.
While I'm not a Bond collector, I'm sure some of the many 007 fans on the forum will chip with some useful info on where you can get those scans.
Best of luck on your quest!
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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 01:16:54 AM »
Welcome to APF, Andy.  welcome1

You might also want to get in touch with fellow APF member Adam (APF ID: bondposters) at info@bondposters.com

He's in the UK, is a big Bond collector and seller and should be able to help out in some capacity, too.

Jeff





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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 09:17:18 AM »
Also www.movieposterdb.com might have what you are looking for.
Out of principle, my advice to anyone is NOT to use this site.
They rip off many, many artists.
AND they sell unlicensed reprints.
AND THEY GENUINELY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN.

Bruce's emovieposter is great, heritage auctions is also great.
And if you need any help, just as Ted and Jeff have alluded to, get in touch with one of the Bond collectors/sellers such as myself, "Simes" or "harrycaul" who are fantastic Bond collectors.

Oh, and welcome to the forum!
Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 10:52:27 AM »
So, all considered, I decided to collect PICTURES of the mentioned posters! That is correct, the images, jpg files of those 50-60 posters.

Welcome Andy!  As you are running into with Moonraker, I think the more you dig you'll quickly find that there are many, MANY more posters, print variants, teasers, special posters than you originally anticipated.  I just did a quick count of my UK quad list (including posters I'm looking for but do not have) and it's at 62 posters.  I know for a fact that I'm missing about 10 or more on that list as well.  If you factor in double and triple bill posters that number will go up by another 25-30... possibly more.  And I don't even collect US 1-sheets as I figured I would be busy from now until the end of time just getting the quads -- some of which are VERY expensive and rare as you have found out. 

As for your specific questions...

1. I only know of (3) DAD quads... 1) Pierce and Halle point gun teaser, 2) gun on ice teaser, 3) full collage regular release with date.

2. Yes, there are 2 different credit versions of Moonraker.  It is my understanding that the version with "Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in Moonraker" is a misprint and it was replaced by the other version.  The misprint seems to be more rare and should in theory be more expensive... that said, the two versions are almost never differentiated in sales descriptions and they often sell for the same price-ish.  By the way, there is also a third Moonraker quad with tie-in with Seiko watches -- that one is also rare but doesn't sell for all that much I think due to the very "advertising" feel of it (less like art). 

3. There are (3) Living Daylights posters... 1) a blue background teaser with just Bond, 2) the advance with the girl in the white dress, and 3) the art montage poster.  I think none of these posters are in very much demand due to them being not particularly rare and Dalton never really taking off as Bond.  I found all three for well under $100 USD with patience and waiting for auctions with low starting bids.

4. As others have said, check Heritage, eMovieposter, Christies, or even just google image searches. 

Welcome to the esoteric world of the Bond collector! 

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 11:47:33 AM »
 welcome1  to the forum Andy, enjoy.


And as Adam forgot to mention ;), I also collect only British Bond posters. I only need one to have a Quad from every film, though I do have several from most...  Happy hunting.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 11:59:30 AM by paul waines »
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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 12:11:30 PM »
That is correct lol.
Sorry, Paul.

Andy - if you need help with UK quads, Paul is the guy.
Best collector of UK quads I know (a sentiment I feel others here will agree with) whom I've had the pleasure of meeting.

Matt is right - do a little more digging and you'll be blown away with how many posters there actually are!
I have to disagree with Matt just a little though in regards to the MR Seiko quad.
In my experience, they go for more based on the fact they are a lot rarer than the others.
Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 12:34:11 PM »
Thanks Adam, I'll let you off... ;)


And I must agree, the Seiko Quads have always gone for more, even tatty ones.
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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 01:07:14 PM »
By the way, there is also a third Moonraker quad with tie-in with Seiko watches -- that one is also rare but doesn't sell for all that much I think due to the very "advertising" feel of it (less like art). 

As you'll notice, I didn't say it goes for less then the regular version -- it only meant that it doesn't seem to sell for as much as you would think given the rarity.  And lately, I doubt there is much of a disparity at all.  Moonraker used to be a about a $100 (or less) quad for many years.  I got my rolled mis-credit version for $50 only 3-4 years ago!  For some unknown reason to me (more collectors?) it has lately been selling for $200-$300, if not more, on eBay UK.  The few Seikos I've seen were not far off from that.  Given, it's been a while since I've seen one for sale publicly...

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2013, 01:38:20 PM »
Out of principle, my advice to anyone is NOT to use this site.
They rip off many, many artists.
AND they sell unlicensed reprints.
AND THEY GENUINELY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN.

Bruce's emovieposter is great, heritage auctions is also great.
And if you need any help, just as Ted and Jeff have alluded to, get in touch with one of the Bond collectors/sellers such as myself, "Simes" or "harrycaul" who are fantastic Bond collectors.

Oh, and welcome to the forum!
I'm just saying he could use that site for an image.

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2013, 02:12:52 PM »
Harry, I must say I would be interested in seeing what one would sell for now, with the recent price hike on this poster.. I need the watch version myself, so would be bidding unless it went into silly money...
It's more than a Hobby...

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2013, 03:46:56 PM »
As you'll notice, I didn't say it goes for less then the regular version -- it only meant that it doesn't seem to sell for as much as you would think given the rarity.  And lately, I doubt there is much of a disparity at all.  Moonraker used to be a about a $100 (or less) quad for many years.  I got my rolled mis-credit version for $50 only 3-4 years ago!  For some unknown reason to me (more collectors?) it has lately been selling for $200-$300, if not more, on eBay UK.  The few Seikos I've seen were not far off from that.  Given, it's been a while since I've seen one for sale publicly...

Sorry, mate.
Didn't mean any bad.

I'm just saying he could use that site for an image.

No problem! :-)
I still think that for even images staying clear of the place is the best thing.
The owners are an absolute joke to the hobby and amazingly some collectors and dealers actively promote it! Crazy.

Harry, I must say I would be interested in seeing what one would sell for now, with the recent price hike on this poster.. I need the watch version myself, so would be bidding unless it went into silly money...

Me too... Maybe I should sell mine!
Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2013, 04:09:34 PM »
Sorry, mate.
Didn't mean any bad.

Should have put in a smiley... I was trying to get off on a technicality! :)

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2013, 04:14:42 PM »
Ha, no problem! :-)
Best wishes,
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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 04:18:17 PM »
No problem! :-)
I still think that for even images staying clear of the place is the best thing.
The owners are an absolute joke to the hobby and amazingly some collectors and dealers actively promote it! Crazy.

I still like to use emovie for images though.


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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2013, 05:49:47 AM »
Hi Andy, and welcome.

1. You will find with recent posters that there are multiple digital variations on the internet of a poster theme but that when push comes to shove, not all will be printed.  I would assume with the DAD poster that this is one such occasion.  I am aware that with Skyfall suggested to offer many Coming Soon variants of version 1 (in the tunnel), and no such posters became available through the usual ebay channels.  (Adam will say that one or two were printed as test runs, but in terms of commercial availability...)

2. There is the Seiko version for Moonraker and also a Seiko version for Spy Who Loved Me.

3. Not sure.  Info IS available...

4. Bondposters.com and LAMP ( http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/INDEX/COUNTRIES/UK/BritishLegends/JamesBond/JamesBond.asp )  may offer such images, although Adam's Bondposters.com images are heavily watermarked so may not be what you need.

In terms of sheer numbers of posters, I am afraid there are hundreds across purely the UK and US market.  Indeed, I have 26 UK and US posters for Just Skyfall - but I am afraid this may indicate a hint of obsession.  Like you, and for this reason, I too collect only the US and UK market, but I try to collect everything that is available.

Best of luck.

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2013, 11:47:35 AM »
Like you, and for this reason, I too collect only the US and UK market, but I try to collect everything that is available.

Best of luck.


Simes is a bit conservative here  ;)
He has some amazing stuff.

Your best bet if you do decide to purchase actual posters is to save a little and try to buy a collection as this will give you a great start, but finding a ready-made collection for sale these days isn't easy.

My advice is to also look on other forums such as the other main poster forum MPF and film/collector forums.
Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2013, 12:13:32 PM »

My advice is to also look on other forums such as the other main poster forum MPF and film/collector forums.

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2013, 01:40:19 PM »
Funny.

MPF is still very useful and other collector and film forums really are worth a look.
Best wishes,
Adam

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2013, 09:33:04 AM »
Hi,

Thank you all for the replies.

First, let me tell you all again that I am trying to find IMAGE files of James Bond posters. I am not buying a real poster. I did buy two books to try and find the posters that I wanted to scan, but unfortunately these two books were as good as nothing. They don't have the few posters that I am missing.

So, again, images! JPG files and the like.

Being said that, I can find images in the internet, but they are mostly useless because they are small resolution. I use a 2560px monitor and so I am looking for high resolution images.

emovieposter.com, for images, is, sorry to say that, a joke. Their "large image" is actually very small and they also add a watermark to all their images, as if they could be any useful for being that small. Also, I may be doing something wrong but I tried to find the UK Quad of Casino Royale (2006), and although emovieposters.com showed me 496 related items, ZERO find for what I wanted. So, emovieposters.com, for my needs, is no good.

emovieposterdb.com - I didn't know this one. I tried a search for UK Quad Casino Royale (2006) and found an image 638x850px, not good enough. (I already have it in 1024x768, found using Google images). They do seem to have lots of material at high resolution but not the UK Quad I am looking for. Skyfall UK also is not available. They charge for the download but it is a very small fee that I wouldn't mind at all paying if they had the posters I want.

@Harry Caul - thank you for the explanations; I should assume then that the DAD poster shown in 007magazine.co.uk is then a fake, edited.

@paul waines - congratulations for your UK REAL JB poster collection. I can't afford and will not start a real collection though, I am looking for image files only. THAT I should be able to afford... :-) - Do you happen to have high resolution images for UK Quads? I am missing a few...

@Simes - I am interested only in OFFICIAL UK Quad that were printed, and also US 1-sheet. That is my goal for now. I may later expand my idea but if I can't even get what I want for these two formats only, why bother with other formats. The DAD Seiko poster is not in my list because, although it is official, it has the ad. I personally don't like it. I am not basing my idea on how much a poster is worthy but on completeness based on my definition of what I am looking for.

And, yes, watermarked images are no good.

@bondposters: Sorry, but I am not going to buy real posters. They are expensive and they are not what I want. I could not have all JB posters in a room for my viewing, but I can have a website where I can easily look at them when I want. If copyright is a problem, I make my website private. I don't see the meaning of starting a collection that I would never be able to complete, because UK Quad JB poster can become VERY VERY Expensive, like 25k for Dr. No. So, no buying.

I am though willing to pay a reasonable value for the images of them, in high resolution...

I am putting up a private site with "my UK Quad virutal collection". I will show it here when done. I am missing some posters though, in the quality that I want.

Thank you all.
Andy





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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2013, 09:38:17 AM »
Can someone please tell me if the suit used by Daniel Craig in the official 2006 Casino Royale one and only UK Quad poster is black or navy or something else? Thanks.

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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2013, 10:00:06 AM »
A virutal collection... hmmm,
Some of us enjoy sleeping with our posters bed1 and some unfolding smelly posters and having a sniff.

It sounds a bit rough collecting something that you can't touch, and that also goes off with the power.


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Re: About some James Bond posters
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2013, 11:06:25 AM »
A virutal collection... hmmm,
Some of us enjoy sleeping with our posters bed1 and some unfolding smelly posters and having a sniff.

It sounds a bit rough collecting something that you can't touch, and that also goes off with the power.



I obviously understand your point of view and it makes a lot of sense but it all boils down to money and priorities we have in life with what to do with our money.