Pawn Stars movie poster

[CSM]

I like the show. The show is actually by Mike Wolfe (the tall skinny one), his idea, he took it to TV and I think he is a producer too.

Well at least there's one sensible Aussie around (and still posting on Dec 21 I see!)

[rdavey26]

Rich is correct. You have to wait in line forever to get in because they do not want the shop full of people. I was in there a couple months back I decided to go there since I only live an hour and a half north of Vegas. I get there and the line is long and it was hotter then hell outside. Then I finally get in there and everything is over priced. The only things that were reasonably priced was the pawn stars merchandise. I decided not to line their pockets and I left. I did not see anyone from the show again like Rich said they are more then likely in the back. Just not worth the time to go there. I seen that episode the other night with the Bullit Italian 1p and it was cool looking but when he offered that I figured they were paying retail if not more for it. So I looked it up and sure as shit I was right. Kinda funny how just about everyone that watched that episode hops on Bruce's website and checks to see what they normally go for lol.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

OT:

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Enki, did you actually read and understand my post at all?
the truth is that your video supports what I said

you said:

First, 90% of the store is filled with Pawn Stars Show Memorabilia. Things like t-shirts, bobble heads, those silver coins with the Old Man's face on them, etc. They have a bunch of things you see in the show, but rarely actually sell them for the inflated costs. The store itself is usually PACKED full of people, where you can barely even walk around, let alone see anything.

then I said:

Enki, your post is only partially true and considerably enhanced.
They do indeed do Pawn there and every morning people are lined up outside waiting fo rthem to open so that they can sell. Pawn is their #1 business.

Second, the store will never ever be so full of people that you can't walk around - they meter the number of people who are there at any time and absolutely do not let the store get crowded. The majority of the store is indeed full of pawn, but yes, they do have Pawn Star merchandise all over the place as well. Pawn takes up most of the store's space.

and what I said is supported by the video. The store is for the most part, Pawn merchandise which seems to take up the 90% you think the t-shirts do.

There are t-shirts and the like, as you would expect from a store that is featured on TV and gets lots of visitors from out of town who think these clowns are some sort of celebrities. But when you consider that Honey Boo-Boo is a celebrity, it isn't hard to see the similarity.

Then, as can be seen in the video, people are walking around just fine without being obstructed by a store that is

PACKED full of people, where you can barely even walk around, let alone see anything.

and if you want to see pop or Chumley, go to the shop with an expensive and unique item to sell, and I'm 100% certain you'll have a chance to meet them.

[enki]

Well I guess we can agree to disagree. I thought the store was pretty "packed" and most of what I saw in that video was show souvenirs.

Anyway, on a separate topic, check out this video:


It was the stores original homemade pitch video to try and get a production company to pick up a "Vegas Pawn" type show. Very interesting. Apparently they were originally going for a Taxicab Confessions type late-night-pawn-store-customers based show, but when History picked it up, they wanted the format to be like how it is now. But the video gives you some interesting behind the scenes look at the store and people before they became famous. It also actually looks like a real pawn store.

There's also this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvu6APT3JLY&feature=youtu.be
which was from a 2003 clip of Insomniac w/Dave Attell. Rick has hair.

[Neo]

I thought the store was pretty "packed" and most of what I saw in that video was show souvenirs.

In the first video you posted yesterday, that appears to be an accurate representation of the shop, and although there are quite a few people in there, there is still plenty of space to walk around, talk to employees, etc.  The only place I saw souvenirs was the little area with t-shirts and stuff, and the one shelf with the bobbleheads.  The rest of the store has "real" items, and considering it's a pawn shop, that is some fancy stuff. 

The number of people who view Chumlee, Rick, etc. as celebrities is a little mind boggling.  I guess they're just big fans of the show.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Well I guess we can agree to disagree. I thought the store was pretty "packed" and most of what I saw in that video was show souvenirs.

you mean that you can't agree with obvious evidence.
FACT: the store is busy, but it is not packed and people have no trouble walking around to browse.

Packed is a rock concert, or football game

but hey.. you don't have to agree. It's no skin off my nose

[Silhouette]

[enki]

you mean that you can't agree with obvious evidence.
FACT: the store is busy, but it is not packed and people have no trouble walking around to browse.

Packed is a rock concert, or football game

but hey.. you don't have to agree. It's no skin off my nose

Since you seem incapable of dropping the subject, fine, I'll respond one more time.

The word "packed" is clearly a subjective description. While you, in your infinite wisdom, might believe that as long as you aren't knee deep in someones balls that you have plenty of room, other people might feel differently. While, as I said in the very beginning, I've never been to the store personally, both of my friends who have told me independently that they felt the place was "packed" and there was not much room to walk around comfortably. You can try and provide as much "obvious evidence" to the contrary, but it's all irrelevant. Along those lines, I'm not sure what evidence you actually presented, other than your personal opinion. Not to mention that the number of people inside probably fluctuates a lot depending on the time of day. So maybe when (and if) you were there, it wasn't as crowded.

Now, I'm sure that there is a maximum capacity based on fire code, and since it's a very popular place, I doubt that they let the number of people inside exceed this. This is most likely why they have a line out the door and security regulating the number inside at any given time (that, plus for standard security reasons). But that doesn't mean that the place won't be cramped even within that number. I've been in many restaurants with posted capacities far exceeding what I could reasonable see being comfortably filled. Again, subjective. I've been to bars that were within fire code, and yet it would take you 30 minutes (an exaggeration, but not too far off) to get from one end to the other.

Lastly, regarding the actual 'pawned/sold items' for sale versus the Pawn Stars merchandise, I was obviously exaggerating when I said 90%. However, based on numerous reports, it's been said to be at least 30% of what you see throughout the place. Also, in looking at the video link I posted earlier, everywhere the camera went was more t-shirts, bobble heads, etc. The display cases had some random crap in them. Outside of the walls, I saw nothing resembling what they portrait the store to carry. I'm sure they have a ton of watches and other small items out there, and probably bigger items in the back, from what I've seen and heard, the principle items they sell nowadays are souvenirs to tourists.

Anyway, the whole point of my original post, which you seem to have taken great offense in, is that the actual store (now) looks nothing like what you see on TV. And it looks nothing like what it did before the show, when it was a real pawn store. Now, it's a tourist attraction. That my friend, is an indisputable objective fact.

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

OT:

Oh c'mon.  Like they weren't aware of that before they hired her.  Surely backgrounds checks were done on her by History Channel, or at least the Pawn Shop.  Don't they have to do background checks on stuff they buy from people to verify it's not stolen!?! So they'd definitely do it on employees. They probably fired her for some other reason and this was just an easy way to cover it up, plus this way they get even more publicity out of firing her, if she just wasn't doing her job they wouldn't.  Like people have said all these shows are staged, enjoyable, but staged.

[enki]

How would a criminal background check pull up the fact that she posed for naked pictures in the past? That isn't illegal AFAIK.

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

How would a criminal background check pull up the fact that she posed for naked pictures in the past? That isn't illegal AFAIK.

Well not criminal up just a typical prior job history, or internet search, or she even could have told them, most employers want to know what you've done work wise in the past.  From what I've heard it's pretty popular now a days for employers to look people up on the internet, at least that's what I hear, everyone warns about what you post on Facebook, etc because it could come back to bite you. Seems like a simple internet search would have revealed this pretty quickly.  I just find it hard to believe she worked for them for a year and they're just now finding out about this.  Seems more reasonable to believe they knew all along and she screwed up or they got tired of her and this was their hat trick to get some extra publicity for the show.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

If you don't have an employment contract - and the vast majority of American workers don't - you don't need a reason to quit a job and your employer doesn't need a reason to fire you.  Just say "see ya" or "it's not working out" and the employment relationship immediately ends.  An employer doesn't need to "concoct" a reason to fire an employee.

If she appeared on-air, she probably did have a contract and she probably violated one of its terms (maybe a morals clause) by omitting her past porn gigs from her resume or application. Since she breached the contract, she was terminated.

[enki]

While the majority of the circumstances are (and will remain) unknown to us, it's probably fairly likely that any comprehensive background check wouldn't have turned up anything. I'm not a porn industry expert, but I assume that the real names are not advertised or made publicly available. And most probably get paid via 1099, versus a normal W2 job which could show up on an employment record search. It also sounds like it was a very limited instance - it wasn't a full time job making hundreds of videos, etc.

So what most likely happened was someone recognized her from the show and it spread from there, eventually getting back to the studio.

We don't even know if she was candid about it with the producers when she got the job, or how that whole process worked (ie: the shop hiring her versus Leftfield Productions versus History Channel or a subsidiary). For all we know, she was truthful and they didn't care. But then when it went public, someone at the History Channel could have had an issue with it and said to can her.

Also, it looks like she posted on her FB page that the porn-past had nothing to do with it, though whether that's true or just a cover up for some NDA reason - who knows.

And yeah, as Mel said, in most cases if you don't have an employment contract, you or the employer can terminate the relationship for any reason at any time, as long as the reason isn't illegal, such as being discriminatory, etc.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Enki, there was nothing in your post until this one that I took any offense in. But clearly when someone points out that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about you don't like it. I have no problem with that. After all, that's for you to deal with. But when you start acting like a complete schmuck to me because I pointed out that you were wrong, that's my business. To you I say what I say to other people: grow up. You don't always have to be right, but there is no question that my initial response to your initial post was correct. You'd be better off in life if you got around to understanding what people are saying, instead of getting your hackles up. I wasn't attacking you, I was correcting some false information you put out there. It isn't the first time we are in this current position because you can't admit a mistake on your part..

Now, go back to your rant.

Since you seem incapable of dropping the subject, fine, I'll respond one more time.

The word "packed" is clearly a subjective description. While you, in your infinite wisdom, might believe that as long as you aren't knee deep in someones balls that you have plenty of room, other people might feel differently. While, as I said in the very beginning, I've never been to the store personally, both of my friends who have told me independently that they felt the place was "packed" and there was not much room to walk around comfortably. You can try and provide as much "obvious evidence" to the contrary, but it's all irrelevant. Along those lines, I'm not sure what evidence you actually presented, other than your personal opinion. Not to mention that the number of people inside probably fluctuates a lot depending on the time of day. So maybe when (and if) you were there, it wasn't as crowded.

Now, I'm sure that there is a maximum capacity based on fire code, and since it's a very popular place, I doubt that they let the number of people inside exceed this. This is most likely why they have a line out the door and security regulating the number inside at any given time (that, plus for standard security reasons). But that doesn't mean that the place won't be cramped even within that number. I've been in many restaurants with posted capacities far exceeding what I could reasonable see being comfortably filled. Again, subjective. I've been to bars that were within fire code, and yet it would take you 30 minutes (an exaggeration, but not too far off) to get from one end to the other.

Lastly, regarding the actual 'pawned/sold items' for sale versus the Pawn Stars merchandise, I was obviously exaggerating when I said 90%. However, based on numerous reports, it's been said to be at least 30% of what you see throughout the place. Also, in looking at the video link I posted earlier, everywhere the camera went was more t-shirts, bobble heads, etc. The display cases had some random crap in them. Outside of the walls, I saw nothing resembling what they portrait the store to carry. I'm sure they have a ton of watches and other small items out there, and probably bigger items in the back, from what I've seen and heard, the principle items they sell nowadays are souvenirs to tourists.

Anyway, the whole point of my original post, which you seem to have taken great offense in, is that the actual store (now) looks nothing like what you see on TV. And it looks nothing like what it did before the show, when it was a real pawn store. Now, it's a tourist attraction. That my friend, is an indisputable objective fact.

[jayn_j]

If appearing in a Suicide Girls video is a criteria, then most actresses are "porn stars".  Didn't know that showing your boobies was the same as doing anal on camera.

Nope, she was fired because somebody published something that embarrassed the producers.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

If appearing in a Suicide Girls video is a criteria, then most actresses are "porn stars".  Didn't know that showing your boobies was the same as doing anal on camera.

Nope, she was fired because somebody published something that embarrassed the producers.

the dope around town is that she got fired because she wouldn't bed down with one of the producers

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

This is a pawn shop in Las Vegas we're talking about right? Somehow I don't think moral character had anything to do with it, I mean c'mon Corey got busted a while back for a bar fight... the not sleeping with the producer thing seems more realistic.  I thought they hired her for what was going to be an entire series dedicated to the night shift, but that never seemed to pan out, and the few times they do night shift clips on the show they are usually pretty lame.  We probably won't see those anymore.  But I'd venture to say her past was not why she was fired, it was just a nice way to publicize the show with her firing, no matter what she did or wouldn't do, or they just decided to cut the night shift crap.  It's all about ratings, and someone disappearing doesn't do anything to the ratings like a saucy "porn firing" does.  She was probably hired in the first place because of it! Oh well, none of it's real, but it's amusing entertainment with a lot of interesting stuff, and amusing characters, better than Antiques Roadshow.

[enki]

Enki, there was nothing in your post until this one that I took any offense in. But clearly when someone points out that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about you don't like it. I have no problem with that. After all, that's for you to deal with. But when you start acting like a complete schmuck to me because I pointed out that you were wrong, that's my business. To you I say what I say to other people: grow up. You don't always have to be right, but there is no question that my initial response to your initial post was correct. You'd be better off in life if you got around to understanding what people are saying, instead of getting your hackles up. I wasn't attacking you, I was correcting some false information you put out there. It isn't the first time we are in this current position because you can't admit a mistake on your part..

Now, go back to your rant.

You are so fucking full of yourself it's ridiculous.

You think you actually "proved" some point, but all you did was give your opinion - over and over again ad nauseum. You keep ranting the same crap about how you are "correct" and how I'm wrong simply because I disagree with you. Let me reiterate the fact that just because I say X and you say Y doesn't mean you are always right. You have provided ZERO factual evidence for your belief, contrary to your constant claims that you have some how proven anything. You can keep going on and on and on about the same thing as much as you want, but if all you do is cite your own posts, that doesn't make them any more factual or credible.

Let's summarize our conversation for the past few days:
Me: That box looks pretty big.
You: No it's not, it's only a medium size box. You have no idea what you are talking about. It's medium, not big because I say it's so and that's a fact.
Me: It looks big to me.
You: No it doesn't. Didn't you see my first post where I proved that it was medium because I said so? You're an idiot. blahablahblahblahblah I'm right and you are wrong.

As I said, the term "packed" is completely subjective. You don't seem to get that, and instead want to keep arguing with me about how I'm wrong, and then act incredulous when I say the same thing back to you. I could give two shits if you find offense to that, because guess what? Your posts were offensive and argumentative too.

Grow up.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Enki.. fuck you. sit with the other children
you are so ignorant that you just don't understand what I wrote and because you are so afraid to admit that you completely exagerated your initial post you instead became a schmuck, and now you became an asshole. Facts are that you commented on something of which you have no experience at all, about a place you  have never been to. There was nothing with that by itself, but then someone who knows what he's talking about and is 2 miles way from the place that you know nothing about and would know tons more information about that place than you ever will explains the realities of that place, you can't handle it.. When yu try to tell me what I agree with, you become a schmuck. Pay attention, I don't agree with you. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about and even RDavey told you I was correct, that he was in the store and what I described was correct. and you want to say "we agree to disagree". WRONG. You disagree with 2 people who know and I disagree that you have any idea what you're talking about and I was nice when I said any of that.

But because you can't be wrong, you just keep digging yourself in and being an asshole. You should just admit that you're as asshole now, though you weren't until you started with the balls and full of yourself shit.. I'll tell you the same thing I would tell anyone else who acts like that, which is fuck you.. grow up and stop acting like an asshole. Now stop crybaby. you don't want people calling you a schmuck.. watch what you say.. you don't want people calling you an asshole.. watch what you say.. You don't want people to tell you how fucking wrong you are (no matter how nicely they told you), then stop talking about stuff of which you have no fucking idea because you have no fucking experience and trying to act l like you have the word of God. Your words mean nothing if you don't know what you're talking about.

waahhh  waaahhh waaah.. LMFAO

now go on to your next rant.. blah blah blah.. Rich is this Rich is that.. Go ahead.. do you want your ba-ba too?

[enki]

Hahah. Man, every post you make is just making you more and more of a hypocrite. Complaining about someone ranting in a huge rant of your own? Calling someone an asshole for expressing an opinion contrary to your own? Crying like a little bitch because someone pointed out a flaw in your argument, and yet calling them a child?

For someone who acts like they are so intelligent, I would have thought you would have realized that two different people could have a differing opinion of what something looks like. But I guess your just an egotistical douche.

I don't know which is more pathetic, you and your whiny little rants talking about how smart and right you are or your sorry excuse for a website.

I didn't realize living 2 miles from something automatically made you a certifiable expert in something. But I guess you certainly are certifiable.

Well, I'm done playing this game of yours. I'll make sure to tell my friends who were at the store how wrong they were about how crowded it was because you said that their subjective opinion is inferior to your own.

[enki]

Look at all these other idiots who don't know what they're talking about:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tripadvisor.com%2FShowUserReviews-g45963-d1717873-r114657727-Gold_and_Silver_Pawn_Shop-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html&ei=ziTWUNKIKIqI8QSrlIHACg&usg=AFQjCNFRkguf6ZRRQjgg2tf59hStOfOCCA&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU

The place is packed on the weekend

Small, Crowded, No Pawn Stars around

http://www.yelp.com/biz/gold-and-silver-pawn-shop-las-vegas

It was really really crowded and we barely got a chance to really look at anything.

waaaaaaaay to crowded and third, most important, they don't really have anything.

I don't see going back it was small and too crowded and smelled like armpits.

http://riverrant.blogspot.com/2011/03/pawn-stars.html

Inside, the store was packed like sardines, a notable departure from what you see on tv.

And my personal favorite:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2011/jun/17/return-pawn-stars-nerve-center-shows-guys-are-pret/

"About a year and a half ago, we actually had to put those up out there and get a doorman because the place was getting too packed and the Fire Department was getting upset with us for going over capacity." -Rick

Man, even the owner of the store doesn't know what he's talking about. You should really drive over (since it's just two miles away) and give him a stern lecture about how he was never, ever, "packed". Because you said so.


Ok, now I'm really done.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

Man, this fight is even stupider than my fights with Bondie.  Where's your Christmas spirit, boys?  Maybe this will calm you down.

[Matt]

Has it ever oKerred to you that she might be a relation of mine.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Enki.. get your skinny little ass in that store someday.. then you can tell us how "it was so packed you couldn't walk around" and that "90% of the store is Pawn stars merchandise"

until then, you're just trying to justify something you know little or nothing about.

maybe you'll get to be "knee deep in someones balls", and maybe even, you'll enjoy it!