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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2014, 12:42:28 PM »
Pretty sure the studios send the HQ digital images to the media (or put them on media-only websites).

But you don't really need and can't use super-size images anyway. The commercial printers I've dealt with only print posters out at 150dpi maximum. Loce's reprints are 150dpi, on heavy luster paper, with blurry text. Anyone on this forum would instantly recognize they are reprints. But his buyers are either too naive or just don't care that they are reprints. And they're all cheap $$.

true true its just another way besides mpdb, (oops i just realized my above post stated imdb instead of mpdb).  First time I heard of him is when i went to sell my Blood Drive poster and others that were hard to find.  His name kept popping up. He still has blood drive listed for 250 the last time I checked.

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2014, 11:52:59 PM »
Just learned he has a fake Nurse 3D poster listed.  Real one that I got is limited to 100, 27x39.5", and printed on cardstock.  It's not a regular theatrical release.  Loce lists it as a regular. It's fake for sure.
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2014, 11:59:15 PM »
But his buyers are either too naive or just don't care that they are reprints. And they're all cheap $$.

2-3 weeks ago I got an email from someone looking for Stooges stuff

he asked about getting autographs
I jokingly asked "real or forgery"
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2014, 07:52:49 AM »
Just learned he has a fake Nurse 3D poster listed.  Real one that I got is limited to 100, 27x39.5", and printed on cardstock.  It's not a regular theatrical release.  Loce lists it as a regular. It's fake for sure.

Definitely could be a reprint since a large image is available:

http://www.movieposterdb.com/poster/b78271f4

But he usually sells his reprints cheap (less than $30).  Hard to tell here:

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #104 on: March 02, 2014, 04:15:49 PM »
I'm sure Loce might have some fake single sided stuff (on popular titles) but I'm not sure that it's all fake.He cleary has connections.The studios are printing a lot of SS material.I'm sure he can get his hands on legit SS material.

Popular minty white titles are one thing, but spending big bucks to reprint new posters that don't have much of a market seems like more trouble than it would actually be worth.

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2014, 07:59:21 PM »
Got this email yesterday:

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From: Michael *********
Date: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:43 PM
Subject: Tom Loce "Drive" one sheet bootleg
To: "administrator@moviepostercollectors.com" <administrator@moviepostercollectors.com>

Hi there, I wasn't sure if you had actually seen one of Loce's Drive advance one sheets before to discern if it was actually a bootleg or not, so I thought I should let you know that I went out on a limb and purchased one from him awhile back -- sure enough, it was an obvious bootleg.  I have an authentic double and single sided of that poster, and it wasn't even close.  There were printing anomalies and horizontal print "lines", the color was off, and it was on completely different paper.  I knew within a second of seeing it that it was a bootleg, but I could see how it is good enough to fool those who maybe don't handle a lot of original posters and don't know what to look or feel for.  Looking at his ebay sales history you can see he has sold a lot of them -- what a shame. 

Had I known about your site before I bought it I would have taken pictures to show you the defects I found.  I also would've left a negative feedback vs. a the neutral that I did had I known how much of a scammer the guy is.  I left a neutral with a comment that said something like "sold me a bootleg, but refunded promptly".  Now I wish I would've given a better warning to potential victims.

Anyways, thanks for the great site.  It has come in handy for me on numerous occasions.


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This is the fake he's referencing:


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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #106 on: November 11, 2014, 09:08:49 PM »
I check in from time to time to see if he put some money towards new carpet or a new camera. 
I always check his feedback about bootlegs before he has them removed. I had more examples but they are gone.




and another from Mel's site noted earlier in this thread:

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #107 on: November 11, 2014, 10:21:22 PM »
So the shag carpet and poor lighting are still par for the course?

I guess that shade of brown helps to give all those repros a warm, legitimate look.  mesmrized


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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #108 on: November 12, 2014, 05:06:34 AM »
I never check in there as my saved searches remove his and bradburied's names from the results.

Good that some people are getting their money back though.

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
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« Reply #110 on: February 21, 2015, 05:52:08 PM »
Even with this worse than normal picture in his listing I am pretty sure it isnt legit by the cropping. funny how he uses a super blurry image for this poster in particular.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPIDERMAN-MOVIE-POSTER-2-SD-RECALLED-ADVANCE-/371153790696?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566a7d66e8
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #111 on: February 21, 2015, 05:56:04 PM »
Looks like he must have quite the VHS collection, too... with un-boxed spares available to be used as "poster weights."   :P


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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #112 on: February 21, 2015, 06:01:56 PM »
Looks like he must have quite the VHS collection, too... with un-boxed spares available to be used as "poster weights."   :P

lol ya  :) this must have been taken in the pre-dumbell weights days. 

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #113 on: February 24, 2015, 04:20:17 PM »
If that is truly a bootleg double sided Spidey it means they have moved up a notch where we now have to watch all  double sided posters as much as the singles and a bad turn for the hobby as a result. Almost want to buy to see if it is a bootleg or not.
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2015, 07:09:59 PM »
If that is truly a bootleg double sided Spidey it means they have moved up a notch where we now have to watch all  double sided posters as much as the singles and a bad turn for the hobby as a result. Almost want to buy to see if it is a bootleg or not.

The DS bootleg spidey has been around for a long time....It hard but i can tell tloces is a fake.  heres some info written back in 2008 by Morphine (really nice guy up in Cananananda)  http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/spider-man/spiderman-coming-2002-wtc/
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #115 on: February 24, 2015, 09:55:57 PM »
Ah, tells you how much attentions I pay to most modern posters. At least they aren't bootlegging lenticulars that I have heard of yet. ;D
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #116 on: February 24, 2015, 10:10:07 PM »
Cinemasterjesus sent me one of the spidermans, its VERY well done.
As I dont deal in modern posters I would have been fooled for sure.
(if there wasnt info available to spot the difference) but just looking at it.
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #117 on: February 24, 2015, 11:05:18 PM »
Ah, tells you how much attentions I pay to most modern posters. At least they aren't bootlegging lenticulars that I have heard of yet. ;D

well yes there are some bootleg thai lents now that you mention it :)  I believe there is an Alice in Wonderland and a Spiderman, but not the same art styles as the the originals

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #119 on: October 03, 2015, 03:45:05 PM »
Awesome update, there, Jason!  thumbsup.gif

The guy sure sounds like a total piece of work, that's for sure.  moron1
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #120 on: October 03, 2015, 03:47:54 PM »
Wow...

"Bought original, rec'd reproduction/fake.  When questioned, seller sent fake COA."

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #121 on: October 03, 2015, 03:59:41 PM »
It never ends and a lot of negatives/neutrals I previously posted are removed from the feedback entirely.

Ya he sent a fake COA lol.

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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
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Re: Tom Loce (tloceposters) fake thread
« Reply #124 on: February 21, 2017, 09:41:36 PM »
More pictures of negative feedback with the buyers stating they got fake posters coming soon....