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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #125 on: March 09, 2012, 12:54:40 AM »
Hi Dan,
Surely you don't miss being part of the Canadian Poster terrorists? ;)

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #126 on: March 09, 2012, 07:47:21 AM »
Hi Dan - good to see you here.  Can you comment at all on this Blade Runner discussion?
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #127 on: March 09, 2012, 08:58:28 AM »
welcome1 aboard, Dan.

Welcome. Stay long and post often.

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #128 on: March 09, 2012, 06:24:30 PM »
Hi Dan - good to see you here.  Can you comment at all on this Blade Runner discussion?

What he said...

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #129 on: March 10, 2012, 08:31:06 AM »

I'm curious about the authentication book he promised he was writing. Whatever happened to that? He mentioned it twice, once about 3 years ago and another time about 5 or 6 years ago.

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #130 on: March 10, 2012, 09:16:04 AM »
What is your interest in a book about Authenticating Movie Posters Dave when you don't collect them?
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #131 on: March 10, 2012, 09:26:30 AM »

Who says I don't collect them? What an absurd comment. I've been a collector since the 70's.

Now why don't you answer the question. Whatever happened to the book you promised on more than one occasion? Just curious. Thanks.

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2012, 08:31:09 PM »
Earlier in this thread an international rolled one sheet was shown from ebay. The guy tried to sell it himself locally (and failed) so he sent it to us. We now have it listed with a large photo if you all want to use it for reference. It has a very slight trim on the right side.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190652867414

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2012, 12:41:22 AM »
Well, as usual, monkey see, monkey want to buy, monkey try to resist, but monkey fail again.  I ended up ordering the "Odd NSS" rolled from MoviePosterZone.  Very curious to see how this turns out.  I might ship it off to MP Grading, because it does indeed seem too good to be true, although every poster I've received from MPZ certainly appears to be legit....


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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2012, 12:52:49 AM »
Well, as usual, monkey see, monkey want to buy, monkey try to resist, but monkey fail again. 

So weird that you do this... But to each his own.


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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2012, 10:08:31 AM »
Well, as usual, monkey see, monkey want to buy, monkey try to resist, but monkey fail again.  I ended up ordering the "Odd NSS" rolled from MoviePosterZone.  Very curious to see how this turns out.  I might ship it off to MP Grading, because it does indeed seem too good to be true, although every poster I've received from MPZ certainly appears to be legit....



Been watching that one for a while Mel.  And if it turns out to be legit, not a bad deal for a rolled OS.

Good luck and let us know when you are back from "spring hiatus"  ;)
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2012, 11:09:27 PM »
So the rolled "Odd NSS" poster from MoviePosterZone.com showed up.



It's exactly 27x41.

The "NSS tag" at the bottom is somewhat fuzzy but easily legible:



The paper feels unusual to me - somewhat waxy - hard to describe.

It appears to exactly match the poster that Dave says came "straight from a former employee of Continental Litho. in Cleveland. He saved a few posters that he liked as they came off the press."

I downloaded all the extra-large images from Heritage of this poster and compared them again, especially the cropping.  

On mine I noticed you can distinctly see two lights at the very edge of the left border in the middle.  You can also see those two lights on Dave's "Odd NSS" rolled poster.  Pics of the lights from my poster:





These lights are cropped on the great majority of posters on HA.com.  Typically you can only see a bit of one light:



On the 30x40, there is some extra space to the left of those two lights:



On mine there is a printing defect that extends to the back:



Finally, I really can't spot any "loss of detail" on mine compared to the others I examined.


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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2012, 11:16:57 PM »
Appreciate this Mel - but now we need to figure out what it all means ;)

Do you think you will send it off to MPG?
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #138 on: March 21, 2012, 08:05:11 AM »
Appreciate this Mel - but now we need to figure out what it all means ;) !  

Do you think you will send it off to MPG?

"What it all means"?  Beyond my ken.  It's certainly not a "MovieGoods" cheapie reprint, which are a joke. (They're all 27x40 and all the text printing - even large text - is preposterously fuzzy.) Also, I take Dave at his word that his rolled "Odd NSS" copy came straight from Continental Litho and this poster exactly matches that copy, which is compelling evidence it is the real deal.  Also, a bootlegger probably would not bootleg this version since it has the small NSS tag printing, which is very tiny and very difficult to replicate.

On the other hand the paper on the back seems very white for its age and feels oddly "waxy."  The seller (MoviePosterZone) just happens to have "endless rolls" of The Thing, Blade Runner, and Pulp Fiction 2-3 decades after these movies disappeared from theaters.  All three of these posters are known to have been bootlegged on non-alkaline paper from Japan.

Anyway I'm checking on the price of the testing. The site says $150, which is too much.

Looks pretty good on the ol' wall:

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #139 on: March 21, 2012, 08:30:45 AM »
That is all well and good, but, your leaving us for your Spring break only lasted 6 days. A bloody Blade Runner poster isn't worth coming back for!... Get back out there and enjoy the weather!  ;)


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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #140 on: March 21, 2012, 09:11:07 AM »
That is all well and good, but, your leaving us for your Spring break only lasted 6 days. A bloody Blade Runner poster isn't worth coming back for!... Get back out there and enjoy the weather!  ;)

Good plan. Of course, thanks to global warming, winter in effect was spring and now summer has started. It's 81 degrees Fahrenheit (27 degrees Celsius) in early March! 

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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #141 on: March 21, 2012, 09:45:11 AM »
Good plan. Of course, thanks to global warming, winter in effect was spring and now summer has started. It's 81 degrees Fahrenheit (27 degrees Celsius) in early March! 

It is that warm even up here in the frozen north of Wisconsin.  We have broken record highs every day this week.  Supposed to be 83F today.
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #142 on: March 21, 2012, 05:53:50 PM »



I just noticed - on your poster, is the 'ORI' in the 'Original Music Composed by Vangelis' credit noticeably different than the rest of the credits?  On my 30x40 (and on all of the other ones that I've seen), the ORI is darker and thinner than the rest of the credit block, but I am not seeing this on other 'real' BR one sheets.  

Is it just the glare or is your actually darker/thinner?
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #143 on: March 21, 2012, 07:01:05 PM »
The 30x40 and all the one sheet NSS posters (including mine and the theater-used poster shown below) that I checked have this fading but none of the studio posters (no NSS paragraph) that I checked have the fading:





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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #144 on: March 21, 2012, 07:10:48 PM »
Mel,
You will know what I mean......
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #145 on: March 21, 2012, 07:29:20 PM »
I was looking at Dave's folded NSS and you couldn't tell from the pictures...

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« Reply #146 on: April 22, 2012, 09:17:44 PM »
Well I finally bit the bullet and bought a folded US Blade Runner one sheet.

Just had a chance to examine it and it adds even more mystery to the discussion!

It measures 27x41 so that's good but the odd thing is it appears to be the "Regular NSS Version" until you look closer.

Unfortunately, I could not capture these points in my photos but:

1) In the lower left it says "Printed in USA" in ghostly grey (not white) which is hard to see unless you move in the light - the Regular NSS should not have this?

2) In the middle it has the NSS Paragraph plus the GAU union logo (but the logo is somewhat faint and incomplete but is there in white printing).  The NSS paragraph is NOT blurry to my eyes.

3) In the lower right the same thing as with the lower left is going on!  It has "Blade Runner 820007" in white and even.  Then above the "820007" in faint grey there is "NSS 820007" just like with the faint "Printed in USA" in the lower left.

The "ghostly grey" as I am calling it resembles the discoloured grey in the "ORI" of "Original" Jason noted...

It mostly resembles the "Odd NSS Version" BUT the major difference is that it does not have the "NSS 820007" printed in white (only the "Blade Runner 820007") with "NSS 820007" above in the ghostly grey (as well as the Printed in USA" in the left in the same ghostly grey).  

So anyone with a folded Regular NSS one sheet care to take a CLOSER look at these areas and report back?  Pretty please?  ;)
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #147 on: April 22, 2012, 09:50:32 PM »
Ok the last pic is the best I can do (you can make out a grey smudge in the lower left - well at least on my monitor you can)





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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
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Re: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints?
« Reply #149 on: April 22, 2012, 09:56:05 PM »
I can (just) see it. ;) but can't help. Never had one.
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