Belgian Posters??

[bigmike]

Just wondering what are the sizes for Belgium posters.
I just bought a 47x63. and It was listed as a Belgian poster? Seem right? I figured it was a French poster. But it wasn't, they have different artworks.

[CSM]

Mike, this is what LAMP says:

Over the last few years, smaller distributors in Belgium have been using poster plates that were sent from the studios and printing them in Belgium. For example, if the film is coming from France, they may get the French plates for the Grande (47x63) and print it in Belgium to distribute. Then you would have a 47x63 French poster but it will have a Belgium printers tag. This saves money for the small distributor because he then does not have to pay for layout, drafting and artists to create the new posters and then the expense of having the plates made. So even though the printing cost may be slightly more, it eliminates all the pre-printing costs.

This means that you might see all types of sizes that are standard in other countries with a Belgium printer tag on it.

[CSM]

Well to be fair the LAMP quote did not really include "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "French Grande""

[bigmike]

Are they by any means more valuable? or just what a collector will pay?

[CSM]

I honestly don't know Mike.  Probably all depends on the title.

Might want to check Bruce's/Heritage's archives?

[Dobbo]

Proper nube question... I have about 300 belgian posters and they all measure 24"x16" (60X40centimetres)
I didn't think you got big Belgium posters?
Maybe a way that you could tell if a poster is Belgium or not, nearly all mine have the title in French and a Germanic looking language, with the English title in Brackets. Here is an example



It has the French title 'Le Voyeur'
The Germanic title 'De Loerder'
And the english title 'Peeping Tom' in brackets underneath the French title.

Hope this helps

[CSM]

Dobbo - did you even read my response?

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Dobbo, the other language is Flemish. It's language spoken in that geographic area not just inside Belgium, but in the surrounding nations as well.

[Mondo Hazardo]

Flemmish is not a separate language, it's Dutch

[Dobbo]

That's right, Flemish..

But i've still never seen a Big poster outside a Belgium cinema..
I think they (Belgium 24"X15") are used in Holland and Luxembourg as well.
I have a theory...
Since customs and border control have been removed in Western Europe. It no longer matters what printer a film distributer use's. Why not get 'Thierry hates "French Grande"'s' printed in Belgium, if it is cheaper. Also Belgium is very close to 'Paris' compared with a lot of French City's.
I can see a situation where the Artist/Graphic Designer does the work, and the plates would be sent to Belgium for cheaper printing.
This still means they are French posters for use in France. They are never going to be used in Belgium, they don't have the Frames outside the cinema's to fit such a size of poster.
Although i haven't been to Belgium for over 10 years and wouldn't be surprised if they had converted to light boxes and 1-sheets.
 

[bigmike]

I don't know, but its 47x63. The French one has a different image. And the one I ordered has a better one. I will post it later when I get it.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Flemmish is not a separate language, it's Dutch

actually Wim, it IS a separate language. I am of direct Belgian lineage (in other words, I'm a first generation American on one side of the family) and ((2nd genetaion on the other)) and so I have knowledge of this issue.

the Dutch language is actually Flanders
Flemish is the international version of the Dutch language and is commonly spoken in Belgium as well as Switzerland and Germany and even in some parts of France, as such it has some modifications of Flanders so that people in those other regions better understand the language

[eatbrie]

I am of direct Belgian lineage...

AH!!!  It explains a lot.

 

[Dobbo]

Like, why you need three titles on a poster.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

AH!!!  It explains a lot.

hey schmuckaluck, I am of French lineage too.. so "ribbet" to you too you frog

[Bruce]

I think the "printed in Belgium for use in France" theory sounds good (and fits some facts), but I think it is incorrect. I have been consigned some really odd sized Belgian posters (all are from the past ten years), and they are not French sizes. They also don't have multiple languages.

I think the right answer is that they just got tired of French people pissing all over their posters because they are so "small" so they decided to try other sizes.

Bruce

[Dobbo]

That figures, all mine are from the 50's to the 80's.
Although, you must have agreed sizes in a country for the publicity material to fit in generic displays etc.
Have they adopted German sizes i wonder?
It seems an obvious choice to follow one of the neighbouring country's.
Are the titles in French or Flemish, Bruce?
 

[110x75]

I have 3 of them, two from the 50s (with the standard measure, 24"x16")

And one from 1930, measuring 33,5"x22" ...

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I have 3 of them, two from the 50s (with the standard measure, 24"x16")
And one from 1930, measuring 33,5"x22" ...

Matias, that is the first time I have ever seen a poster for Girls For Sale
I'm not sure if the film is available on DVD or tape, but I recommend it highly, Dita Parlo, whose most famous role is in Grand Illusion, is a fantastic actress. I'd love to find a copy myself as I haven't seen the movie in at least 30 years and probably more like 35-40

[brude]

That is a great piece of poster paper, Matias.  Wow! 

[110x75]

Matias, that is the first time I have ever seen a poster for Girls For Sale
I'm not sure if the film is available on DVD or tape, but I recommend it highly, Dita Parlo, whose most famous role is in Grand Illusion, is a fantastic actress. I'd love to find a copy myself as I haven't seen the movie in at least 30 years and probably more like 35-40

Rich, you`re not reading my blog then (http://110x75.blogspot.com/2011/10/bailarinas-para-buenos-ayres.html)
I`ve seen so far a spanish one sheet and a herald, this belgian, and austrian and german programs.
I bought this one a few years back. I had never heard of or seen the film. The "Buenos Ayres" in the title caught my eye and had to get it. I later found that, in the film, Parlo is taken to Argentina with false promises of work, to become a prostitute. Altough the story is fictional, it was a common practice here in that era (The year before the film was made, a huge network of polish pimps was finally dismantled after years of ruling the prostitution underworld of Buenos Aires...) 

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I wish I had time to read all teh blogs out there

that Argentinian poster is killer

[110x75]

I wish I had time to read all teh blogs out there

that Argentinian poster is killer

I was just kidding Rich 
The poster is spanish and yes, it`s killer -and sadly not mine-

[Mondo Hazardo]

actually Wim, it IS a separate language. I am of direct Belgian lineage (in other words, I'm a first generation American on one side of the family) and ((2nd genetaion on the other)) and so I have knowledge of this issue.

the Dutch language is actually Flanders
Flemish is the international version of the Dutch language and is commonly spoken in Belgium as well as Switzerland and Germany and even in some parts of France, as such it has some modifications of Flanders so that people in those other regions better understand the language

Well Rich, it's the other way around. Linguistically Flemish is considered to be one of four varieties of the Dutch language (did not know there were four, had to look it up). We Dutch have earned that right by building ships around the sixteenth century, kill and plunder along the globe and be a bit of a world power in our time. I can assure you that the international language (if such a thing existed which I doubt) would be called Dutch. In any international treaty with official languages it is called Dutch, not Flemish, irrespective if the words are uttered by a German or Swiss. Attributing factor to this is that Belgium unfortunately is involved in a longtime language division which ensured that there are a lot of Belgians who don't speak or want to speak Dutch. It's the main factor why they did not manage to form a government for over a year and a half. What is true and what I think is charming is that Flemish used to be more authentic by resisting foreign words for modern phenomena like computer adopting a more German type of construction of making long words with lots of syllables.
Let me add to this that I'm in no way a nationalist and i really do not care if we "have" the official language or not.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemish