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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2011, 12:52:03 PM »
Ye, UK 1 sheets are UK International 1 Sheets.

And that is why the damn things are so hard to find.  I think a lot of the nations these end up are ones that put posters in the trash.
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2011, 12:58:30 PM »
I must say I can't recall a Half sheet up in a U.K. based Theatre. I do know some of the size problems come from the fact poster printing started in the Victorian era, so through out the Empire different sizes were used and all named with a royal theme. Hence Crown, Royal, Emperor, etc. With the Crown being the basis of U.K. sizes.

I do have some British Half sheets I must check, but I am thinking you are right regards they may have been for British colonies. Makes prefect sense.

Another thought is that bus stop poster is in metric and 1200 x 1800 is aprox 47"x 71"  ....which buggers up everything, bloody foreigners.  ;)    
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2011, 03:40:17 PM »
As Bruce says, they simply need to shift the words '(bus stop posters)' up to the 60" x 40" window and all will be well!

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2011, 03:43:34 PM »
But Bus stop posters are 48x72....and not 60x40
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2011, 03:51:56 PM »
 60 inch is 1.5 metres (1500mm),1800mm is about 6 feet.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2011, 04:35:31 PM »
But Bus stop posters are 48x72....and not 60x40

But Bus stop posters are 48(W)x72(H)....and not 60(W)x40(H)

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2011, 04:50:14 PM »
I think the older English bus stops were around 39 x 59 and only recent ones are this larger size.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2011, 05:00:41 PM »
I think the older English bus stops were around 39 x 59 and only recent ones are this larger size.
This is one of those threads that has been around all day but just gets more interesting as the hours tick by.
Bruce, what era is "older"?  Pre 70`s?

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2011, 05:41:48 PM »
and a Quad crown is 30"x40"   Quad meaning 4 times bigger.

30(W)x40(H)
Me thinks this needs more research....  
Im very confused,is it width first then height, or height first then width?
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2011, 06:07:20 PM »
Hi, Stew!
Another hornets' nest waiting to be shaken!
As I understood it, in imperial paper sizes, it was always height first by width second.
However, many people now prefer to reverse the order.
I know Ed Poole at LAMP always goes width first by height second.

I guess it depends where you learned it first and who you listen to now!

I was working on the basis that 'bus stop' was the 'modern' term for 60" x 40".
Apparently, according to Paul's posting, that's not the case - sorry, I was under a misapprehension - stuck as I am in the olden days!  I shall continue to avoid the term 'bus stop' altogether!

If in doubt, you can't go wrong if you spell it out in full - ie 60" high x 40" wide, etc, etc.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2011, 06:57:31 PM »
In mathematics, width goes first.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2011, 07:01:56 PM »
In mathematics, width goes first.
It does indeed Chop.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2011, 04:00:04 AM »
The order the width, and hight come is not the issue, just the actual measurements themselves. And a time scale of when posters started being used in bus shelters. I'm going to guess late 70's/early 80's, as 60's and 70's bus stops were nothing like they are today.

Bruce, do you have any records of the earliest ''bus stop" poster you have sold from the U.K.? 
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2011, 04:08:30 AM »
Hi, Paul!
But the order of width and height is also an interesting topic and worthy of a little investigation.
Here is a link to a very detailed discussion which (eventually, if you read far enough) points out that there is a division of opinion between UK and USA ... also that basic stationery paper sizes were traditionally LONGER size first by SHORTER size second.  Obviously, while it's still a blank piece of paper, the fact that it is landscape or portrait isn't relevant - it's only when the graphics are added that the orientation becomes a factor!

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/2138.htm

I've said it before and I'll say it again ... I really should get out more.

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2011, 04:11:01 AM »
... also, actors' publicity portrait photographs are coloquially referred to as '10 by 8's' - so that's another instance of height first ... !

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2011, 04:22:16 AM »
hmm well usually, seems its smaller then larger.

27x41(40), 13x30, 30x40, for US, Aussie and UK standard sizes (at least thats what I see used most often_.

Stills I always use and have always seen 8"x10"

Not that any of it matters really, I am sure we can figure it out either way.
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2011, 04:31:06 AM »
I'm glad you don't get out much Terry... ;)


I meant what order the hight of width comes is not important for this discussion, as I was mostly wanting to find out dates, timescale; But I order pipe work, and fittings, also steel work every day doing my job at work and the largest size is always first, or people on the telephone don't know what you want...  So I've always regarded paper in the same way.

Those Supergirl posters are 4 sheets 60"x40" and wrote on one is..




Now IF they used 4shts in bus stops, when did they go to the bigger 4 foot by 6 foot, or 48"x72" and what is being wrongly advertised as a 6sht?

I must just add here that the current "bus stop" posters are in metric, so 72x48 is actually 1800x1200mm

 
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2011, 04:33:51 AM »
I guess it's safer for everyone if we don't get out much.  If we got out more, we might meet and start a conversation about this ... then we'd never get home again!

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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2011, 05:11:11 AM »
you should hear how long the "running zombie" argument goes on for when I get out with my horror nerd friends.
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2011, 05:50:41 AM »
Which camp are you in Ari, running, or lumbering...
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2011, 12:18:56 PM »
you should hear how long the "running zombie" argument goes on for when I get out with my horror nerd friends.

Now THIS is something that is truly worth some effort spent on argument!!  I am in the lumbering camp myself for two reasons......

1. George Romero, the godfather of the genre, decided long ago with his films that they lumber.  It was only his more recent films they began to run, and I think that is to please modern audiences.  Also, I don't believe that Romero had a lot to do with those films.  His name is on them because he owns the franchise and because it doesn't hurt the ticket sales.

2. Its a simple question of mobility.  Skin becomes rotten, connective tissue becomes brittle.  The lumbering zombie can continue to lumber for a very long time.  The running zombie is going to be down for the count sooner rather than later.
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »
Im very confused,is it width first then height, or height first then width?

Stew, it's more confusing than you think, as there are vertical Quad Crowns, also the 60"x20" commonly called a door panel, is still a Quad Crown, due to the surface area...


Anyway I'm with Schan, Lumbering Zombies are the one's I prefer. I'm thinking the running type is only the recently dead, or people who are infected with some sort of Virus...

The lumbering/slow moving one's do go back as far as White Zombie, and later I walked with a Zombie. I'd just like to bring in one of the best Zombie films made, Living dead at the Manchester Morgue. No running in that one either. As Schan says it's these playstation kids who when they come back as Zombies run around like................like the living dead.   
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2011, 01:49:20 PM »
Stew, it's more confusing than you think, as there are vertical Quad Crowns, also the 60"x20" commonly called a door panel, is still a Quad Crown, due to the surface area...    
Thanks Paul,one of the reasons I'm confused is probably because I'm used to film ratios,just as a number most people will recognise is 16:9. Sixteen being the horizontal 9 the vertical so that's the way i have always regarded any expression of area..

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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2011, 04:12:49 PM »
I always look at film ratios as 1.66, or 2.35, 1.33, etc... this 16:9, 14:9 etc, is you young fellows and your Digital shenanigans. ;)
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Re: Bus shelter posters
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2011, 04:22:40 PM »
I always look at film ratios as 1.66, or 2.35, 1.33, etc... this 16:9, 14:9 etc, is you young fellows and your Digital shenanigans. ;)
Yeah yeah i know you would get what i was talking about but its still 2.35:1,not 1:2.35 ;)

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