Author Topic: So are blurry Eirin numbers legit? They gotta be at least reproductions, right?  (Read 1433 times)

Offline mazeboy13

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Hey all.  This my first real forum post, so I hope I'm doing it right (not that it's complicated)

I've been building my stock of Japanese not-for-sale posters, and one of my favorites are movie announcement posters (I've also heard them called promotional posters), which of course have an Eirin number printed.  I've come across some posters lately though, that have a very clear Eirin number.  But then I've also seen others that have a barely legible Eirin number.  I've also seen some, as pictured in the link below, that have a clear Eirin number that appears to be printed in a quality that is overall much lower than the rest of the poster.  (It seems that there was a website that has since gone down in another thread that may have discussed this, so I'm hoping to get this info out here, as well.)

https://icedrive.net/0/54r5QkZVca

The thing is, most of these posters seem totally legit other than the blurry eirin number.  The paper seems to be browned / foxing and the text on the poster is perfectly crisp.  The images on the posters is also very clear and crisp.

Does anything have any theories on the cause of these and their legitimateness in general?  I saw a post by Harry (Marquee Posters) about a Lupin III poster re-release that had a less than perfect, but still legible Eirin mark.  It just baffles me that the posters are immaculate, except for the part that they're legally bound to display.

Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but a fair portion of what I thought were legit pieces may be fakes if this thing is supposed to be perfect!

Thanks in advance all!

Andy

Offline Neo

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 welcome1, mb13.

What movie and year is this poster from?  It looks like this is about an 80's or newer poster, and the blurriness you're referring to is a result of the printing process.  The Eirin numbers on legit posters, from modern printers, appear that way sometimes because of the multi-color dot matrix used by printers of this time. 

Offline mazeboy13

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Hey Neo. Thanks for the useful information!  You nailed it!  That poster was a Cyborg 009: Legend of the Super Vortex from 1980.

https://icedrive.net/0/40yaE1fQ6k

That makes me feel a lot better!  I instantly knew what you meant when you said dox matrix.  I have several posters with that style, but also many without it, so it was really worrying me thinking that it may be a tell-tale of those pesky fakes.

I took a couple of pics of 2 other posters I have with a similar issue.  The Macross one really stood out because the seal, the Toho Emblem (東宝), and the text are all very crisp, but the Eirin is nearly illegible.  I can't even tell what the first 2 numbers are on the second one!

https://icedrive.net/0/1dCdwhGgCC
https://icedrive.net/0/ecbVUAYuy5

I'm starting to think that this may be a result of attempting to scale the Eirin number into sizes that obviously couldn't be clearly printed at and not really caring what the end result is.

Thanks again for sharing the wisdom!

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That Cyborg 009 is awesome.  cool1