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Aug 2018
« on: August 01, 2018, 07:56:40 AM »
Just got these ones in!


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 01:22:29 PM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/NwWL0mreMYE" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/NwWL0mreMYE</a>

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 12:53:18 PM »
Cool pics ups so far, this month.

Tang, are those 2 pieces in a frame? Or just under plexi to hold them flat while you filmed them?


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 04:36:35 PM »
I joined a while ago, but this is my first time posting acquisitions - after having them framed...



It's a cult classic film, and I've always loved the theatricality of the poster and the way it captures both the feel of the film and the serials which inspired it.



The original's a better movie, but this pastiche of Gone With the Wind is just brilliant and always makes me smile. The artwork is tremendous and the colours so vibrant. I had the UK quad of this since the film cMe out, and it was duller and a bit beat-up, so I had to go for this one sheet.



I'm a massive Trek fan, and consider this film a hugely underrated classic that's just so majestic in scale. The poster has been imprinted in my brain since youth, after seeing it on hoardings and reproduced in Marvel comics.

Al of these posters have been framed behind UV-resistant glass, and not dry-mounted. Flash is fine, but Fletch has shown some slight warping changes since being framed. Trek meanwhile has always shown some slight rippling from the top right since being framed. It's not typically very apparent, but this following picture highlights it.



The framer notes the poster had been rolled for some time, but I'm wondering if I should look at remedial action and how this could be avoided in future cases (I've got at least two more posters lined up).

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 06:13:45 PM »
I joined a while ago, but this is my first time posting acquisitions - after having them framed...



It's a cult classic film, and I've always loved the theatricality of the poster and the way it captures both the feel of the film and the serials which inspired it.



I'm a massive Trek fan, and consider this film a hugely underrated classic that's just so majestic in scale. The poster has been imprinted in my brain since youth, after seeing it on hoardings and reproduced in Marvel comics.


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 06:17:04 PM »
Frightfully uncommon! A short US MP history lesson. In the late 70s/early 80s, 30/32 National Screen Services Exchanges were closed and most of their MPs were destroyed. But the Theater Poster Exchange in Memphis, Tennessee "ween" on US Ebay) has been selling its remaining stock on Ebay for years and today I got an unused "Tiger Woman" (1945 US 1S) from it!


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 06:54:46 PM »
I joined a while ago, but this is my first time posting acquisitions - after having them framed...



It's a cult classic film, and I've always loved the theatricality of the poster and the way it captures both the feel of the film and the serials which inspired it.


Desk

Nice framing job, all the way around, Desk. Just curious... why did you use UV glass rather than plexi?

And the OS for Flash Gordon has cool imagery. Ive always liked that a lot, too.

Congrats on the pickups.


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2018, 12:54:03 AM »
Nice framing job, all the way around, Desk. Just curious... why did you use UV glass rather than plexi?

And the OS for Flash Gordon has cool imagery. Ive always liked that a lot, too.

Congrats on the pickups.
Thanks, Jeff. I went for Tru View Conservation Glass because I priced UV-resistant plexi and it cost an awful lot more (unless I'm missing a trick).

Ultimately, I was able to source Conservation Glass for just £28 or $37 a panel. I provided the glass to the framer, who charged me a further £40 ($53) for the framing. I was mindful of the weight of the glass and risk of heat transfer, though I live in a country with what's usually a very mild climate.

So I should expect some mild rippling of a poster when framed? That is, if it's not been linen-backed or, heaven forbid, dry mounted? I was wondering about taking the Trek one back for a try at an adjustment once it's had time to settle, as I was a little concerned about that rippling showing in that picture. I also wonder if the Fletch one is being held too tight in the frame, isn't getting enough chance to expand and contract, and that it may be suffering some distortion.

I have a 30x40 OS with that thicker paper off to be framed at present, but this one to be bordered by a mount. It's an absolute killer poster, so I'm really hoping for he best with that one.

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 01:09:47 AM »
Thanks, Jeff. I went for Tru View Conservation Glass because I priced UV-resistant plexi and it cost an awful lot more (unless I'm missing a trick).

Ultimately, I was able to source Conservation Glass for just £28 or $37 a panel. I provided the glass to the framer, who charged me a further £40 ($53) for the framing. I was mindful of the weight of the glass and risk of heat transfer, though I live in a country with what's usually a very mild climate.

So I should expect some mild rippling of a poster when framed? That is, if it's not been linen-backed or, heaven forbid, dry mounted? I was wondering about taking the Trek one back for a try at an adjustment once it's had time to settle, as I was a little concerned about that rippling showing in that picture. I also wonder if the Fletch one is being held too tight in the frame, isn't getting enough chance to expand and contract, and that it may be suffering some distortion.

I have a 30x40 OS with that thicker paper off to be framed at present, but this one to be bordered by a mount. It's an absolute killer poster, so I'm really hoping for he best with that one.

Desk

Hey Desk,

Makes sense to use the UV glass if it was much cheaper...

As far as the rippling of your one poster... so you had this poster professionally framed.

A couple questions... What is on the back of the frame (what kind of backing board did he use?) Is it foam core?

Are clips used to hold the backing board against the back of the poster? Is the poster right up and pressed against the glass?

Looking at the ripples .. is it just in that one upper corner? Could the frame be even a few millimeters too small, and the poster is slightly "forced" in the frame?  (Just a guess here). Sorry for all the questions..lol

Are you able to open the frame and see how the poster is laying inside? If that were mine, I would take the backing board off and check the fit of the poster.


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2018, 01:25:33 AM »
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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2018, 01:41:42 AM »
Hey Desk,

Makes sense to use the UV glass if it was much cheaper...

As far as the rippling of your one poster... so you had this poster professionally framed.

A couple questions... What is on the back of the frame (what kind of backing board did he use?) Is it foam core?

Are clips used to hold the backing board against the back of the poster? Is the poster right up and pressed against the glass?

Looking at the ripples .. is it just in that one upper corner? Could the frame be even a few millimeters too small, and the poster is slightly "forced" in the frame?  (Just a guess here). Sorry for all the questions..lol

Are you able to open the frame and see how the poster is laying inside? If that were mine, I would take the backing board off and check the fit of the poster.
Hi Jeff,

I don't believe it's foamcore that was used - but rather a smooth solid board (I did ask about foamcore). And I believe that the poster is held within the frame simply by being compressed between that and the glass, rather than being held by clips or photo mounts.

The framer cut the glass to match the poster, but I don't know how much excess space is around the margins of the poster as this is hidden behind the frame (and the frame is sealed with tape at the rear to the backing board, so I can't disassemble it to find out).

With the ripples in Trek, they do radiate down from the top right hand corner. However, the framer stated he had difficulty getting it to remain flat - suggesting this was a product of the poster having been kept rolled for many years. I can remove the ripples by pressing the backing board so it pushes the poster against the glass, but when that pressure is gone it just reverts back.

Desk
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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2018, 12:41:30 PM »
Hi Jeff,

I don't believe it's foamcore that was used - but rather a smooth solid board (I did ask about foamcore). And I believe that the poster is held within the frame simply by being compressed between that and the glass, rather than being held by clips or photo mounts.

The framer cut the glass to match the poster, but I don't know how much excess space is around the margins of the poster as this is hidden behind the frame (and the frame is sealed with tape at the rear to the backing board, so I can't disassemble it to find out).

With the ripples in Trek, they do radiate down from the top right hand corner. However, the framer stated he had difficulty getting it to remain flat - suggesting this was a product of the poster having been kept rolled for many years. I can remove the ripples by pressing the backing board so it pushes the poster against the glass, but when that pressure is gone it just reverts back.

Desk

Hi Desk,

From looking at your detail pic again, and what looks like gentle, curved kind of waves in that corner, Im thinking again, that the poster isnt sitting right in your frame, (the frame was slightly too small).

As Neo's original (but deleted) post also mentioned, there should be some "breathing room" around the poster edges, too.

What I also dont get is why your framer said he had such difficulty keeping the poster flat while he framed it? Im sure this framer has dealt with many rolled prints, commercial posters etc in his day top day framing work? That comment is a little weird. Im hoping that he didnt decide to place it in a slightly smaller frame to help hold it flat and to try preventing it from rolling back up, while he was dealing with the backing board.

In any case, were it mine, I would be taking it back to the framer, and pointing that issue out to him. Something isnt right and the fact that you can apply pressure to that spot, and the ripples smooth out, confirms that. Your framer needs to correct that issue. You paid $$ for a service that is unacceptable (imho). Or at least send this detail photo to your framer and see what he/she says about it.

As Neo also had asked.. is there a wire on the back the frame, to hang it with? If not, than what? Hooks of some kind?

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2018, 02:04:38 PM »
I DO like Anna Kendrick...  Very quirky, very beautiful.

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2018, 05:47:31 PM »
Hi Desk,

From looking at your detail pic again, and what looks like gentle, curved kind of waves in that corner, Im thinking again, that the poster isnt sitting right in your frame, (the frame was slightly too small).

As Neo's original (but deleted) post also mentioned, there should be some "breathing room" around the poster edges, too.

What I also dont get is why your framer said he had such difficulty keeping the poster flat while he framed it? Im sure this framer has dealt with many rolled prints, commercial posters etc in his day top day framing work? That comment is a little weird. Im hoping that he didnt decide to place it in a slightly smaller frame to help hold it flat and to try preventing it from rolling back up, while he was dealing with the backing board.

In any case, were it mine, I would be taking it back to the framer, and pointing that issue out to him. Something isnt right and the fact that you can apply pressure to that spot, and the ripples smooth out, confirms that. Your framer needs to correct that issue. You paid $$ for a service that is unacceptable (imho). Or at least send this detail photo to your framer and see what he/she says about it.

As Neo also had asked.. is there a wire on the back the frame, to hang it with? If not, than what? Hooks of some kind?


Hi Jeff,

Many thanks for taking the time to respond.

I went in to see my framer yesterday, but I'm not sure I've made any headway in addressing the situation with the Trek poster. He still says he's not sure why it's appearing as it is, and there hasn't been an offer as yet to open it up and look at it again. He's acknowledged that posters need 'a few millimetres' in the margins in order to breathe.

He currently has another recent acquisition of mine in for framing - this time a rolled 30x40 OS with thicker paper, which I've asked that he put in a mount... which should hopefully address the issue of too little space in the frame.

However, while those so far have been framed using UV-resistant Tru View glass, I have now discovered what appears to be a cheap source for UV-resistant Plexiglas...

https://www.cutplasticsheeting.co.uk/clear-acrylic-sheeting/anti-reflective-acrylic/

Would this appear to the truly clear, top grade stuff? It certainly appears to be the Plexiglas XT 100, which I understand is museum-quality stuff.

What I'm considering doing is asking him to frame that latest poster using a mount, this Perspex, and with spacers to create a space between the poster and Perspex. If that works, I might look at revisiting Trek with this approach and using that frame for something else.But with this approach, what do you use to hold the poster in place - if it's not being sandwiched? Do you use photo mount corners, or that non-sticky Scotch tape?

You and Neo asked about the rear, and what he's done is attached two screws on either side of the frame, holding a cord between them to hang the frame on a hook. But because of the glass, these are pretty heavy objects.

An alternative is to consider another framer, but here aren't really specialists near where I live. It tends to be general art and photography framing.

Desk
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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2018, 07:31:31 PM »
Hi Desk, Everything I've been taught on framing is never put paper right up against glass.  I think you are seeing why first hand.  The paper wants to naturally expand and contract as moisture levels, and temperatures change.  I know plex works much better for me.  Check out Sue Heim's Hollywood Poster Frames site as well for some good info on this as well.  Okie

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2018, 11:41:17 AM »
Hi Desk,

It sounds like your framer has kind of admitted that your TREK poster might be too snug a fit in that frame. Hence the rippling in that corner. And at a minimum, he should open the frame, with you there, so that you can both see if the poster is literally against the interior edge of the frame, causing too tight a fit. Then it would be up to him to remedy that, since (and if that IS the case), he did not give you what you paid for, frame-wise.

So for your framer to say he isnt sure why the rippling is happening, yet not offering to open it, is odd and makes no sense. Unless he's worried about that, and knows he'd have to make you a new frame that holds the poster properly.

As far as that acrylic that you found online, just based on reading it's Key Features on the website sure sounds like a right choice, as far as its properties and UV reflective ability:

Plexiglas Gallery Anti-Reflective Acrylic has set a new standard for artwork protection and reflects up to 99.7% of UV light. Plexiglas XT Gallery anti-reflective/anti-glare acrylic offers much more protection compared with conventional picture glass (float glass). This material has a finished surface  that restricts the reflective qualities often found with gloss acrylics.

This special photographic acrylic is ideal for use in galleries, exhibitions, shops and the home.   It is ideal for framing where the image is in direct contact or is touching the anti-reflective acrylic.  If the image is not directly touching and completely in contact with the acrylic across the entire surface, it will appear very frosted and distorted - even if the gap is only a few millimetres.

Also known as museum acrylic.


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2018, 04:47:38 PM »
Hi Desk,

It sounds like your framer has kind of admitted that your TREK poster might be too snug a fit in that frame. Hence the rippling in that corner. And at a minimum, he should open the frame, with you there, so that you can both see if the poster is literally against the interior edge of the frame, causing too tight a fit. Then it would be up to him to remedy that, since (and if that IS the case), he did not give you what you paid for, frame-wise.

So for your framer to say he isnt sure why the rippling is happening, yet not offering to open it, is odd and makes no sense. Unless he's worried about that, and knows he'd have to make you a new frame that holds the poster properly.

As far as that acrylic that you found online, just based on reading it's Key Features on the website sure sounds like a right choice, as far as its properties and UV reflective ability:

Plexiglas Gallery Anti-Reflective Acrylic has set a new standard for artwork protection and reflects up to 99.7% of UV light. Plexiglas XT Gallery anti-reflective/anti-glare acrylic offers much more protection compared with conventional picture glass (float glass). This material has a finished surface  that restricts the reflective qualities often found with gloss acrylics.

This special photographic acrylic is ideal for use in galleries, exhibitions, shops and the home.   It is ideal for framing where the image is in direct contact or is touching the anti-reflective acrylic.  If the image is not directly touching and completely in contact with the acrylic across the entire surface, it will appear very frosted and distorted - even if the gap is only a few millimetres.

Also known as museum acrylic.

I've ordered a sample of the Plexiglas XT 100UV to see what it's like, and whether I'd need 2mm or 3mm thickness.

I'm thinking that with my latest acquisition I'll look to go Plexiglass, and placed on a mount so as to be sure of guaranteeing room in the frame for the poster to expand/contract.

Do I need spacers to keep the poster back from the Plexiglas if it doesn't conduct heat or humidity? Also, I now see you can purchase acid-free tape to affix the poster to the mount, but how do you do that without restricting the poster's ability to expand/contract?

Anyway, I'm conscious that I'm taking this thread away from its purpose, so apologies.

Desk

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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2018, 04:50:02 PM »
Desk, we can split your framing questions off, and make it your own thread at some point, too, so that's not a problem. (And also put it in the Framing & Storage board, so that it doesnt get gobbled up in this thread or later forgotten about).


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2018, 05:17:46 PM »
Desk, there are a variety of archival tapes made for posters and artwork, to attach pieces to mounts or backing boards. They are acid free and pH balanced and made just for that purpose.

Lineco makes a variety of archival tapes including this one:  https://www.amazon.com/Lineco-Adhesive-Linen-Hinging-white/dp/B0027A5E34


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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2018, 08:16:01 AM »
Hi! to all,

First poster I've bought in quite some time so thought I may as well post it here :)

It's an A1 size German poster (first German poster I've ever bought) in nice folded condition for Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom by an artist named "Reynolds" not ever looked into German posters before but I was pretty impressed with the unique artwork on this poster and feel the likeness's of the characters is quite excellent IMO, it's also my first Indiana Jones poster, so pleased to add it to the collection ;D
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Re: Aug 2018
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2018, 02:49:32 PM »
as concerns the Star Trek poster and why it is wavy

clearly, it has absorbed moisture and is warped in that area. The only way to fix that is by linenbacking the poster

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2018, 03:08:05 PM »
Hi! to all,

First poster I've bought in quite some time so thought I may as well post it here :)

It's an A1 size German poster (first German poster I've ever bought) in nice folded condition for Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom by an artist named "Reynolds" not ever looked into German posters before but I was pretty impressed with the unique artwork on this poster and feel the likeness's of the characters is quite excellent IMO, it's also my first Indiana Jones poster, so pleased to add it to the collection ;D

Nice poster pickup, there, Test. Is the artist's signature somewhere on the poster?



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Re: August 2018
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2018, 04:09:04 PM »
Nice poster pickup, there, Test. Is the artist's signature somewhere on the poster?



Hey! Jeff,

Yes, the artist's signature is just underneath the guy with the horns.

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Re: August 2018
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2018, 10:58:15 PM »
Hey! Jeff,

Yes, the artist's signature is just underneath the guy with the horns.

John

Great Jones, Test!  It just might be better than the movie, eh?!   Okie