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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2017, 08:04:54 PM »
Must watch "fun" interviews with entire cast.

MH reveals that he kept secret the "I am your father" line for 1.5 years. When ESB was screened for the cast, Harrison Ford turned to him and said "you [bleep]ing didn't tell me that, kid!"


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-wars-last-jedi-cast-rian-johnson-visit-kimmel-1063765


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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2017, 06:30:00 PM »
Heard about rag & bone's Star Wars clothing collection, thought it would bomb, but sold out quickly online (still available in stores):

https://www.rag-bone.com/star-wars/



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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2017, 03:53:35 AM »




Royals were in it as stroopers:


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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2017, 10:33:41 PM »
Just came back from watching it, I didn't think it was that great I must have seen an alternative version from the critics

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2017, 06:55:05 AM »
...And thus is ruined my holiday season :(

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2017, 03:05:38 PM »
Just came back from watching it, I didn't think it was that great I must have seen an alternative version from the critics

Uh-oh.
Your review sounds like how I felt when I saw the last one.... pfffffft.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2017, 11:58:19 AM »
LFilm already advertising "for your consideration - Best Picture":



*****

But it basically BOMBED on RT, 1/3(20K) dislike it, very high dislike rate, even the much-maligned Justice League has 80% "likes":

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2017, 10:45:00 PM »
The "gold standard" of "paying customer ratings" came out:



Even though the CScore is calculated based on "only" 400 ratings, CinemaScore Gets 'A' From Studios:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/cinemascore-gets-studios-especially-counters-critics-045034413.html

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2017, 09:22:43 PM »
I have never seen so many pages of negative reviews on IMDb.
Ugggh.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/?ref_=nv_sr_2

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2017, 09:45:53 PM »
Many of these negative reviews are admitted purposeful troll jobs
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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2017, 09:54:34 PM »
Sure, some of them are, but there are hundreds and hundreds of bad comments the like of which I've never seen before.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2017, 10:02:39 PM »
See it for yourself and make your own judgments :)
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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2017, 10:22:54 PM »
Chris

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2017, 11:31:31 PM »
Could be, Chris.
I've read many of the IMDb reviews (past the headlines) and if they are trolls, I have to give them credit for being so convincing.  wynk

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2017, 11:34:16 PM »
Could be, Chris.
I've read many of the IMDb reviews (past the headlines) and if they are trolls, I have to give them credit for being so convincing.  wynk

I'll certainly grant it is leading to (TRUE) divisive opinions  :o
Chris

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2017, 11:37:44 PM »
From your link -- This comment gave me hope:

"That makes this a Star Wars film like audiences have never seen – it’s got people talking, puzzling over its mysteries, and it’s a lot to take in, and we see that as all positive..."
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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2017, 01:21:30 AM »
See it for yourself and make your own judgments :)

A bad omen, couldn't get motivated to watch it in last 30 days:



*****

But going to see TLJ Wed.






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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2017, 01:28:01 AM »
At least some % of the negative RT user scores have been purposefully manipulated (as per the article I linked)

But yes definitely a division amongst fans...
Chris

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2017, 06:40:37 AM »
So IF, and I do mean IF, reviews and statistical computations are being manipulated, at what point does the likes of RT do something with its review structure and Tomato-meter to prevent untrue results?

This trolling is essentially making a mockery of the whole point of the tool.  It must by now be deemed worthless as something to consider.

For my part, as a non-SW fan, I am actually looking forward to seeing it based on catching up with TFA only two weeks ago.  My comments therefore will not be those of an afficianado of the lore.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2017, 04:46:16 AM »
I thought it was ok, not great, not terrible. Tonally it was weird, I thought the humour was really jarring. I liked that you didn't know where it was going to go next though.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2017, 05:16:49 AM »
After 1000 people spent $200m during nearly two years making this film, it does seem anti-climactic to only say of it that, 'it was ok'.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: THE LAST JEDI - 2017-12-15
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2017, 02:48:19 PM »
I'm not a troll. I think the audience ratings are well-earned. This story has issues. If it wasn't Star Wars, nobody would give a f#$% about it.
I am a lifelong fan of these movies. I saw the original Star Wars when I was 10 years old when it came out in 1977. After seeing what they came up with for this movie, I was underwhelmed.

I really liked TFA because it reset everything, got rid of the bad taste in my mouth after the terrible prequels and made me really excited to see what the new characters Poe, Finn, Rey and Kylo would do next. I also really enjoyed Rogue One. Needless to say, my expectations were very high. This movie was very disappointing.


Spoilers follow

All of these things took me out of the movie and detracted from my enjoyment:

How Luke Skywalker was utilized.

The answer to the Rey's parents question (although he could be an unreliable narrator).

Pretty much the entire Canto Bight side plot.

Too many forced jokes rammed in. Humor is a part of all the Star Wars movies, but it was overdone and fell flat too often. Blue-green alien seacow milk? Really? WTF.

Too many plot contrivances. Slow bombers in space needing gravity. Space Ghost Coast to Coast Leia. Battlestar Galactica Rebels. Why didn't the First Order just hyperjump ahead and cut them off? Why is BDT in a jail that he can escape from anytime he wants? BB-8 can really hotwire a Walker? Holdo still has shields. why doesn't she just get between the escaping ships and the First Order fleet to cover them?

With the exception of Kylo and Luke, did any of the other main characters change or grow? You could pretty much cut every single scene of Finn's from the movie, and it would not have any effect.


If the goal was to shit on everything in the Star Wars universe prior to The Last Jedi, mission accomplished. I feel like they took all the criticism of TFA about it being a re-make of ANH, and consciously wrote the story to as Kylo stays, kill the past and burn it down. Disney can do whatever they want. They paid billions for the property. Its not like my opinion matters. The movie will be wildly successful, and I will go to see the next installment regardless of how I feel about this one. I just don't think they respected the Star Wars universe effectively which makes a lot of old nerds like me upset.