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Title: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 06, 2014, 08:16:44 PM
A French poster from the late 19th/early 20th century showing the long lost but most extraordinary Dufayel store. It opened in 1890 and is well worth a quick Google. I think you'll be suitably impressed at the vision of the man - Georges Dufayel - who rose from modest means to enormous wealth and a mansion on the Avenue Champs-Elysées. The poster proved too big to fit it all in the photograph...sadly I hadn't got a step ladder to hand!

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/Dufayel_zps811c464f.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 06, 2014, 08:27:21 PM
I've never sent anything off to a restorer or conservationist before but I think this splendid bicycle poster is going to be first up. It's about 60 inches by 40 inches. No idea whether it's better to have it mounted on linen or paper. In fact trying to research that question is what first drew me to this forum. I have a couple of USA firms in mind so we shall see!

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/DSCF2633-Version2_zps1a045870.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: DekeThornton on November 06, 2014, 11:28:10 PM
I've never sent anything off to a restorer or conservationist before but I think this splendid bicycle poster is going to be first up. It's about 60 inches by 40 inches. No idea whether it's better to have it mounted on linen or paper. In fact trying to research that question is what first drew me to this forum. I have a couple of USA firms in mind so we shall see!


Beautiful!  I love the "Astonishing the Natives" caption.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Ari on November 06, 2014, 11:51:38 PM
Linen would be the usual answer for something this size I reckon.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Simes on November 07, 2014, 06:43:02 AM
Absolutely linen for this size.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 07, 2014, 12:11:18 PM
Linen it is then!

Actually Deke, I was particularly taken by that caption too.

Meanwhile, back on the cycling track...

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/P2060192_zps824807cd.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 07, 2014, 01:01:21 PM
Certainly makes me want to buy two-wheeled transportation (and adopt a peacock)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2014, 01:02:53 PM
Your Wincycle poster would look beautiful linen backed and refeshed... no doubt monocle..

And that Gladiator bike poster is AMAZING!! Simply fantastic and gorgeous artwork (imo)..  notworthy.gif   thumbsup.gif

Jeff
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2014, 01:03:53 PM
Certainly makes me want to buy two-wheeled transportation (and adopt a peacock)

And if wheels ever fail, you could always ride the peacock.  ;D
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: paul waines on November 07, 2014, 01:05:10 PM
Or fly home, if you grow head wings.... ;)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 07, 2014, 01:06:25 PM
Or fly home, if you grow head wings.... ;)

Hopefully evolution will get us there eventually
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 07, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
Good point! Thanks for the comments chaps. That Gladiator poster isn't large though - it's a perfectly formed 25.5 x 19.5 inches. Sadly you can see the effect the original metal hanging bands are having on it. Not sure whether it would devalue the poster to have these removed during the course of restoration? Any thoughts?

Meanwhile, for those who thought tyres couldn't be attractive (and I'm not counting Pirelli calendars)...

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/P2060191_zps3ce013e5.jpg)

...and note the blasted metal rods again!

Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Simes on November 07, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
Certainly makes me want to buy two-wheeled transportation (and adopt a peacock)

Made me laugh sir...
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: eatbrie on November 07, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
A French poster from the late 19th/early 20th century showing the long lost but most extraordinary Dufayel store. It opened in 1890 and is well worth a quick Google. I think you'll be suitably impressed at the vision of the man - Georges Dufayel - who rose from modest means to enormous wealth and a mansion on the Avenue Champs-Elysées. The poster proved too big to fit it all in the photograph...sadly I hadn't got a step ladder to hand!

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/Dufayel_zps811c464f.jpg)

I love this.  I have spent half of my life in Paris and I have never heard of Georges Dufayel or his store.  Funny how you can be at the top of the world one day and completely unknown the next.  I like how it says at the bottom of the poster: "Fixed prices marked with recognizable numbers."  Were there any numbers that people didn't recognize back then?

T
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 07, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
Made me laugh sir...

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3e8f6a25ee02bfeed1ace5fd90fe362e53ee57eab810632ef17d6e25b743886.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3e8f6a25ee02bfeed1ace5fd90fe362e53ee57eab810632ef17d6e25b743886.jpg)

Finally.

 ;D
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 07, 2014, 11:26:32 PM
Finally.

 ;D

There's always tomorrow Jeff so watch out!
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 07, 2014, 11:39:43 PM
There's always tomorrow Jeff so watch out!

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/AfraidScared01_zpsr9y0v2xv.gif)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 08, 2014, 11:21:17 AM
Just a few postscripts about the Dufayel department store. These two sites have some worthwhile information and - especially as you are an adopted Parisian gal EatBrie - the second features a photo search for the remains of the original building.

http://www.bonjourparis.com/story/paris-past-grands-magasins-dufayel/

http://parisianfields.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/a-palace-of-commerce/

By the way, I've just been looking around your poster website EatBrie. Just extraordinary.  I didn't think there were that many posters in the entire world. You do realise that if Charles Dickens was correct and you end up misbehaving yourself, then 10,000 of said items will be chained to your left leg for eternity? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
Just a few postscripts about the Dufayel department store. These two sites have some worthwhile information and - especially as you are an adopted Parisian gal EatBrie - the second features a photo search for the remains of the original building.

http://www.bonjourparis.com/story/paris-past-grands-magasins-dufayel/

http://parisianfields.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/a-palace-of-commerce/

By the way, I've just been looking around your poster website EatBrie. Just extraordinary.  I didn't think there were that many posters in the entire world. You do realise that if Charles Dickens was correct and you end up misbehaving yourself, then 10,000 of said items will be chained to your left leg for eternity? Just a thought.

I would never thought of T being described that way.  ;D

Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 08, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
So is EatBrie conversely a fully paid-up Parisian who has been adopted elsewhere? I must admit to being confused!
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 08, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
I'm sure HE will fill you in, monocle.

 ;)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 08, 2014, 01:40:03 PM
Good lord! My sincere apologies EB!!

Now this is what happens when I mix in the company of film aficionados. I made the incorrect assumption that the gender of their avatar snap (if indeed there is one) might be linked to their real gender. As there was no other clue, what is a chap to do? Further to my own defence, I ought to add that my own avatar isn't a million miles away from what I actually look like. Well perhaps the odd ten thousand miles or so.

Now I wonder. Is there a deeply buried part of the forum where members, in Batman-like spirit, have whipped off their disguise and revealed their own true photographic identity?
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: jedgerley on November 08, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
Good lord! My sincere apologies EB!!

Now this is what happens when I mix in the company of film aficionados. I made the incorrect assumption that the gender of their avatar snap (if indeed there is one) might be linked to their real gender. As there was no other clue, what is a chap to do? Further to my own defence, I ought to add that my own avatar isn't a million miles away from what I actually look like. Well perhaps the odd ten thousand miles or so.

Now I wonder. Is there a deeply buried part of the forum where members, in Batman-like spirit, have whipped off their disguise and revealed their own true photographic identity?

here ya go:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,189.0.html
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 08, 2014, 02:39:17 PM
Done and dusted. Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: eatbrie on November 08, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Good lord! My sincere apologies EB!!

Alright... a few things here and I will give you the benefit of the doubt because you're new.

1) I'm a Parisian who moved to sunny Southern Cal. because he was fed up with the French bullshit.
2) I'm a dude.  Do you really think a chick would collect Bardot, Kinski, Deneuve, Cardinale and others?  I do not collect John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart for fuck sake.
3) My name is Thierry, or T.  Not EatBrie or EB.
4) I co started this board so you better behave and do your homework.
5) Enjoy.

T
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Mirosae on November 08, 2014, 03:05:24 PM
 I do not collect John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart

T

Never occurred to me that those were more appealing for "female" collectors. But i actually think you are right.

Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: jedgerley on November 08, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
Its also been T's time of the month this week!   :-* watch out!
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 08, 2014, 03:39:35 PM
Apologies again Thierry but...

1) I'm a Brit who hasn't moved away from Europe because he loves it.
2) I'm a gent. I know those names but why wouldn't a woman collect those particular people? And to be fair I couldn't honestly name the lady in your snap.  Remember too that I collect Victorian and Edwardian posters not film ones...hence I've joined the 'allposters' website.
3) Where would I have found your name? It wasn't to be seen on your postings and I couldn't find it on your profile hence me drawing on the only information I found available to avoid seeming rude.
4) I always behave and do my homework rather well thank-you as I happen have a degree in both English Literature and History.
5) I most certainly will but (ahem) I never swear.

N
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: eatbrie on November 08, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
Never occurred to me that those were more appealing for "female" collectors. But i actually think you are right.



It might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I for one take more pleasure looking at and collecting posters of beautiful women than I do men.  Except for Bieber (before Chris makes a comment.)

T
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 08, 2014, 10:58:44 PM
Further to my own defence, I ought to add that my own avatar isn't a million miles away from what I actually look like. Well perhaps the odd ten thousand miles or so.


This makes me happy.

I look just like my avatar as well
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 08, 2014, 11:00:29 PM
It might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I for one take more pleasure looking at and collecting posters of beautiful women than I do men.  Except for Bieber (before Chris makes a comment.)

T

Damn you Thierry always ruining my fun!
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Ari on November 09, 2014, 12:48:16 AM
scary thing is I look like my avatar also.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: CSM on November 09, 2014, 01:08:47 AM
scary thing is I look like my avatar also.

Yep - colourful, square, arseless
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: monocle on November 09, 2014, 03:20:07 PM
A poster for the childrens' periodical 'Little Folks' which was sold in the UK between 1871 and 1933. Illustrated by Harry B. Neilson ('er, not the one who thinks everybody's taking about him) who was a very popular British cartoonist as opposed to a celebrated poster artist. I seem to remember seeing these animals somewhere before so I can only assume that the featured characters come directly from strips he illustrated for that and other magazines. Lord knows how they ended up there but one article I read reports that the Los Angeles UCLA library has no less than 325 of his original drawings...


(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/P2060184_zpse9f4b918.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 07, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
A poster for the childrens' periodical 'Little Folks' which was sold in the UK between 1871 and 1933. Illustrated by Harry B. Neilson ('er, not the one who thinks everybody's taking about him) who was a very popular British cartoonist as opposed to a celebrated poster artist. I seem to remember seeing these animals somewhere before so I can only assume that the featured characters come directly from strips he illustrated for that and other magazines. Lord knows how they ended up there but one article I read reports that the Los Angeles UCLA library has no less than 325 of his original drawings...


(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb42/thegallopingmajor/P2060184_zpse9f4b918.jpg)

This is great, Nick. Very fun!!

What size is it?



Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: joemustang65 on February 05, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
Sadly you can see the effect the original metal hanging bands are having on it. Not sure whether it would devalue the poster to have these removed during the course of restoration? Any thoughts?

Cut them off!


They are hard to remove without damaging the paper underneath (I know I tried) and most times the underlaying paper is not worth saving (rust spots,...) ....
Leaving them there, does more damage to other posters when stocking or rolled in might end up with oxidation in the middle of your design.... And then I'm not even talking of framing with those metal stuff in the way ...
To only difference will be the width of the borders, but since none of the borders has text in it, you will have it framed with an even visual size of width , so once framed you will not be able to tell that top / bottom borders are smaller

So imo cut it off, get the poster cleaned and backed (and framed off course)

Nice stuff , love it , but they all with look a lot better with some (small) touch up  
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: joemustang65 on February 05, 2016, 05:04:25 PM
And this is what happens if you leave them rolled to long with the hangers in a moist room .....

What a waiste ....
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160205/43d7336b620f34f7717e2c364695a520.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160205/f0abb58cca64f2d12c2aca81d8277654.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160205/f31c4319bcf417415e985c986dcd3d47.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Mirosae on February 05, 2016, 05:06:46 PM
^ Good Lord.  Joe, that hurts. Is that yours... It looks quite sad...
Title: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: joemustang65 on February 06, 2016, 04:57:51 AM
Rosa,
No, it was for sale last year with 2/3 other ocean liner posters in the same lot.
At least two of them are very rare (expensive) posters, so at least worth the extra restoration costs.
I checked with Dario for the costs before bidding, placed a bid accordingly but didn't win it.
Dario told me since damag was in main design, it would still be visible after restoration, so an other thing to take into account.
I wonder what happened with them haven't seen them re-auctioned though.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/6a585ce328acde05acbea8d3d4dbbfa1.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/7752c4ee721bbabe9c999f14555fbd3c.jpg)

This was an other one in the lot, I owned one of this in perfect condition (still on the hangers without damage) but sold it to a Dutch friend/collector of Dutch Steamers.....
Btw he cut off the hangers straight away .....
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2016, 01:47:01 PM
Joe, in the pic above, is that split in the poster along a fold, where the split edges have begun to curl outward a bit, making the "gap" look wider than it really is?

Or is that amount of paper actually missing?
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: Mirosae on February 06, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
Rosa,
No, it was for sale last year with 2/3 other ocean liner posters in the same lot.
At least two of them are very rare (expensive) posters, so at least worth the extra restoration costs.
I checked with Dario for the costs before bidding, placed a bid accordingly but didn't win it.
Dario told me since damag was in main design, it would still be visible after restoration, so an other thing to take into account.
I wonder what happened with them haven't seen them re-auctioned though.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/6a585ce328acde05acbea8d3d4dbbfa1.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160206/7752c4ee721bbabe9c999f14555fbd3c.jpg)

This was an other one in the lot, I owned one of this in perfect condition (still on the hangers without damage) but sold it to a Dutch friend/collector of Dutch Steamers.....
Btw he cut off the hangers straight away .....

Thank Joe, very interesting to read this. I see why you wanted it. I do as you did, calling Dario before buying anything - he is so reliable.

These pieces are very much sought after here, so I think these could go for a good price when restored.

Could I ask you how much these went for? Feel free to ignore the question - dont mean to be indiscreet, just curious.

Thank you for sharing these photos, very interesting.
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: joemustang65 on February 07, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
@erik: i think split open, didn't inspect them in person ...
@rosa: if I remind well the lot sold around 900 euro plus hammer ....
The Dutch one is worth around 1700-2500 in good condition...
The red star line probably a bit less but no sale record of that one ....
(But a rough restoration estimate was 800/1000 each .... )
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: joemustang65 on February 07, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
@erik: hard to tell by this pic, might be paperloss....(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160207/2e47349a7cac9d671240da168093b23d.jpg)
Title: Re: Digging out a few advertising posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 07, 2016, 12:47:56 PM
Great close up shots there, again, joe.

Yeah.. it looks like a combo of split, being curled and paper loss. But that poster sure is a beauty.