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Common Poster Subjects => Framing & Storage => Topic started by: Rage1073 on April 10, 2014, 11:31:40 PM
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Is it ok to leave posters in the tubes? And if it is for how long?
Is it better to have them vertical or horizontal?
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Is it ok to leave posters in the tubes? And if it is for how long?
Is it better to have them vertical or horizontal?
It is fine to keep them in tubes. I keep my rolled posters in rolls of 50 in a plastic sleeve (to keep them from insects) and inside a tube. I keep the tubes vertical because if you keep them horizontal the weight of the posters will crease the posters.
T
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I hate it. If you just want to store I guess it's ok. But if you need to access them for me it's a nightmare. And a pain to get flat again for taking pics or whatever.
But I don't like unfolded posters anyway. At least on one sheet or larger size. Gimme folds. I'd trade every unfolded poster I own title for title for a machine folded version. Except smaller formats.
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..... I keep the tubes vertical because if you keep them horizontal the weight of the posters will crease the posters.
T
I always thought they should be stored horizontally so the weight of the rolled posters is not directed down on to the vulnerable edges. You do roll a lot of posters together Thierry so maybe there are different considerations in your case.
Mark
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It is fine to keep them in tubes. I keep my rolled posters in rolls of 50 in a plastic sleeve (to keep them from insects) and inside a tube. I keep the tubes vertical because if you keep them horizontal the weight of the posters will crease the posters.
T
T.
The few posters i have now are in rolls of 20 in tubes, wrapped in tissue paper and laying horizontal. Will that crease them?
I thought having them on their end would crush the edges?
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My posters are tightly rolled. They kind of all hold each other, so no damage can be done. To be honest, I don't even think a few posters put together can be damaged vertically. A poster is not heavy enough, and the more you put together, the more they hold each other. You need to make sure they are perfectly aligned. The best way to do that is to get them in a tube one after the other, from the outside in.
Now, if you keep them horizontal over a long period of time, the weight of the posters will eventually flatten them and create a slight horizontal crease. Nothing major.
T
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My posters are tightly rolled. They kind of all hold each other, so no damage can be done. To be honest, I don't even think a few posters put together can be damaged vertically. A poster is not heavy enough, and the more you put together, the more they hold each other. You need to make sure they are perfectly aligned. The best way to do that is to get them in a tube one after the other, from the outside in.
Now, if you keep them horizontal over a long period of time, the weight of the posters will eventually flatten them and create a slight horizontal crease. Nothing major.
T
Totally agree with T
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My posters are tightly rolled. They kind of all hold each other, so no damage can be done. To be honest, I don't even think a few posters put together can be damaged vertically. A poster is not heavy enough, and the more you put together, the more they hold each other. You need to make sure they are perfectly aligned. The best way to do that is to get them in a tube one after the other, from the outside in.
Now, if you keep them horizontal over a long period of time, the weight of the posters will eventually flatten them and create a slight horizontal crease. Nothing major.
Yup.
And now I'm scared that all of Mark's one of a kinds and nifty selections are in the hands of a mad man!
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Wouldn't leave them in regular cardboard tubes for years and years due to the acidity of the cardboard...
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My posters are tightly rolled. They kind of all hold each other, so no damage can be done. To be honest, I don't even think a few posters put together can be damaged vertically. A poster is not heavy enough, and the more you put together, the more they hold each other. You need to make sure they are perfectly aligned. The best way to do that is to get them in a tube one after the other, from the outside in.
Now, if you keep them horizontal over a long period of time, the weight of the posters will eventually flatten them and create a slight horizontal crease. Nothing major.
T
My posters are tightly rolled too. There's no spongy-ness when you squeeze them.
One end of them are lined up pretty much flat so if I'm gonna put them on their end it would be that end?
I really have no room for them stored vertically so what if i turn the tubes every few months? Would that stop any creasing issues or create more?
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My posters are tightly rolled too. There's no spongy-ness when you squeeze them.
One end of them are lined up pretty much flat so if I'm gonna put them on their end it would be that end?
I really have no room for them stored vertically so what if i turn the tubes every few months? Would that stop any creasing issues or create more?
That is what I do. I store them horizontally and just rotate every few months. I have not noticed any horizontal creases at all. But I make sure I rotate them on a regular basis every couple of months. I am like you HG I do not have the room to store them vertically or even flat for that matter. I wish I could store them flat and I probably would if I had a flat file. I would make room for a flat file if I could get one for cheap.
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I agree with Mark here, I too roll many posters in one, and store them Horizontally. As Mark says, there is more chance of damage if stored Vertical, to the edges. When even the minimum of 10 are rolled together they are very sturdy and won't flatten out, unless a great weight is on top of them. Though I also have other rolled posters on top of those, and there has been no deflection in the bottom ones in the last 5 years..
My main problem is these mostly Vinyl Banners, how to store them. I still have most in the original box's, but the space they take up is unreal. I do have quite a few loose ones rolled together, but some have "knobs" on to hang them by (Que the jokes) , which get in the way some-what when rolling them, and slightly distort the edge. Any ideas......Stop getting them!
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I agree with Mark here, I too roll many posters in one, and store them Horizontally. As Mark says, there is more chance of damage if stored Vertical, to the edges. When even the minimum of 10 are rolled together they are very sturdy and won't flatten out, unless a great weight is on top of them. Though I also have other rolled posters on top of those, and there has been no deflection in the bottom ones in the last 5 years..
My main problem is these mostly Vinyl Banners, how to store them. I still have most in the original box's, but the space they take up is unreal. I do have quite a few loose ones rolled together, but some have "knobs" on to hang them by (Que the jokes) , which get in the way some-what when rolling them, and slightly distort the edge. Any ideas......Stop getting them!
I roll all my banners around a large diameter tube, like a 6 incher, prevents and fixes rippling. I know what ya mean about one side of banners making it difficult to roll evenly. The tube system helps. Secure the loose end with some packing tape and let them stand up
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Horizontal versus vertical makes no difference in long term storage for the most part. The issue being when you stand them on end if the edges are not aligned perfectly, you just crushed some poster edges. When laying them down, the key is the density of the roll, a "soft" roll is eventually going to collapse on you, but as long as the color is not broke on a poster, the oblong roll will eventually still lay flat with no damage. I recommend laying them down especially if you collect newer stuff as the width of posters various from studio to studio and title to title and you have to really watch your rolls to not damage the edges. If you do stand them on end, make sure to at least roll 5-10 posters of the same size together at a time to create a consistent edge if you will. If you are mixing sizes and standing them up you are asking for a disaster.
Obviously laying everything flat is the ideal solution, but storage space is the issue for many and not always an option.
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Wouldn't leave them in regular cardboard tubes for years and years due to the acidity of the cardboard...
Do you also mean deacidified or restored posters? I thought that restored posters will be Ok in tubes for longer periods given that they had been treated.
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The cardboard tubes themselves are somewhat acidic, so long periods of storage could potentially make even backed and de-acidified posters turn slightly tan, as acids from the tube slowly leached back into the paper and linen. I think if the rolled, backed posters are put in a mylar sleeve (and then placed in the tube) could prevent this from happening.
(Modern backed posters, printed on glossy paper, might be a different story, when it comes to this question, tho. Is modern, glossy paper more resistant to acid damage from storage tubes?)
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Ah...Ok..i see I got it wrong. Thanks for clarifying.
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A glimpse at my setup.
About 50 posters per tubes, in a plastic wrapping and perfectly aligned. I stack the tubes vertical on top of each others.
(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Organizing29.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Organizing28.jpg)
T
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Looks like a fire hazard
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I'll take the box with 2 Jurassic Park, 4 Skyfall and and 3 Gladiator in it and the tube of subway posters beside it.
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You can have that modern stuff! I'd go for the tube of French 1ps on linen. Because you know if T owns something on linen he must have really wanted it. thumbup
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I'll take the box with 2 Jurassic Park, 4 Skyfall and and 3 Gladiator in it and the tube of subway posters beside it.
HA!!! They're all banners...
(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gladiator3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gladiator4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gladiator5.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Jurassicpark120.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Jurassicpark121.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Jurassicpark122.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Skyfall4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Skyfall5.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Skyfall6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Skyfall7.jpg)
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You can have that modern stuff! I'd go for the tube of French 1ps on linen. Because you know if T owns something on linen he must have really wanted it. thumbup
You'd be right, Matt. There's some good stuff in that one.
T
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How do you roll so many posters so neatly? I'm so rubbish at that, they are always uneven. The times I have had to send three or more posters together, it had taken me about 10 goes to roll them together nicely!
I store my posters flat in a plan chest.
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A glimpse at my setup.
About 50 posters per tubes, in a plastic wrapping and perfectly aligned. I stack the tubes vertical on top of each others.
(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Organizing29.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Organizing28.jpg)
T
Where are the lenticulars hiding? :D
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In the middle of that roll... He rolls them too. ;)
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Where are the lenticulars hiding? :D
In the flat files. All folded posters and lenticulars go in the flat files. I have 40 drawers at my disposal. But not too many lenticulars in them, unfortunately. A dozen probably. I don't collect them because, unlike paper, I do not believe in their longevity.
T
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The same can also be said of Banners too, I have one I was given that had been outside too long and it's as brittle as. It's the one thing about Plastic/vinyl it breaks down under UV light, and goes very brittle. Heat also affects the material, so it seems there is No long term for these kind of posters.
I wouldn't care the brittle one I have is for the last Indy film, it's painted artwork too; But it's starting to fall to bits on it's own (must get a pic before it's gone).
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All true, Paul. I also believe lenticulars lose some of their effect and density as time goes by. Plus, you can eventually notice some separation in the layers. They are really not meant to last long, which is why I stopped collecting them.
T
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All true, Paul. I also believe lenticulars lose some of their effect and density as time goes by. Plus, you can eventually notice some separation in the layers. They are really not meant to last long, which is why I stopped collecting them.
T
Uh oh Time to vacuum seal my collection. What do you mean by the density is affected over time?
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Keep in mind folks that have been dealing since the late 70's and 80s when rolls were sent out in cardboard boxes have probably had them stored that way from 35 years or better with no issue. I have had many boxes stored this way since the late 90's with no issue due to cardboard. I think you probably need 50+ years before cardboard is an issue.
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Keep in mind folks that have been dealing since the late 70's and 80s when rolls were sent out in cardboard boxes have probably had them stored that way from 35 years or better with no issue. I have had many boxes stored this way since the late 90's with no issue due to cardboard. I think you probably need 50+ years before cardboard is an issue.
It really depends on the paper stock of the poster. Of course modern glossies are going to be far more resistant than vintage stuff which was already printed on poor quality acidic paper to begin with...