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Common Poster Subjects => Restoration => Topic started by: crowzilla on September 12, 2013, 04:42:31 PM
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Just saw Poster Mountain's latest blog - what an incredible effort to bring this Beast From 20,000 Fathoms back to life.
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-seas-master-beast-of-ages-raging-up.html
The silkscreen lettering is a very impressive touch and shows how versatile they are in taking care of your treasures.
I would imagine this would give some good ideas to people here who may have items with similar problems.
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A great blog story and further testament to the fine work done by John & company at Poster Mountain.
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Thanks for posting this, Sean.
And this great blog entry, from mid Aug, about PM restoring a Bride of Frankenstein pressbook: thumbup
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-seas-master-beast-of-ages-raging-up.html#!/2013/08/bride-of-frankenstein-pressbook.html
May have to do a cut n' paste as the entire URL doesnt look clickable, for some reason.
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Incredible work by a group of amazing artists.
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This is absolutely fascinating. And the poster looks top of the pops. Lucky owner :)
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The dedication to craft stuns me. John's current odyssey with the Blackstone poster should not be as riveting as it is.
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Here's a really interesting and informative blog entry from PM, back in late September, in which John Davis explains how he gel backs a piece (in this case, it's a WC for Breakfast At Tiffany's):
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/09/gelatin-backing-secrets-revealed.html#/2013/09/gelatin-backing-secrets-revealed.html
Before and After (washing, bleaching and gel backing): clap clap clap
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bfraftr_zps38f02369.jpg)
Looks to be a great way to stabilize and back when one may not want to go the full linen backing route. The front and back can be seen and an item remains truer for those that feel linen takes away too much from a poster's originality.
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Great work and video there by Poster Mountain. thumbup After seeing this video, I may just check with PM about doing a piece that needs some work, especially since they have a special discount going on until 12/31/2013. http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/11/holiday-discount.html (http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/11/holiday-discount.html)
I recently received a Scarface 40x60 that had undergone the process, done by Lumiere Poster Restoration (http://lumiereposter-restoration.com/). I'll post a few pics of it in another thread.
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That's very interesting, I always though WCs were almost a no go for restoration due to thickness of the poster, although in this case it's more a clean up rather than restoration of paper.
The comment about Isinglas only being available with a licence was curious, one can find it all over the net for sale.
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That's very interesting, I always though WCs were almost a no go for restoration due to thickness of the poster, although in this case it's more a clean up rather than restoration of paper.
The comment about Isinglas only being available with a licence was curious, one can find it all over the net for sale.
Might mean California specifically. The environmental laws are crazy in that State.
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Might mean California specifically. The environmental laws are crazy in that State.
That's for sure, Chris... in more ways than one...LOL
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Might mean California specifically. The environmental laws are crazy in that State.
Them Californians and their concern for the environment, I tell ya what. Who needs a clean and healthy environment in order to thrive (other than all life on Earth)?
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Isn't it made of fish? If so, no thanks. :(
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Poster Mountain recently restored and backed a heavily creased Apocalypse Now "Brando" BO for me. This was the first time I have used them and I was very impressed with the care and attention I received, their fast turnaround and the faultless work which they carried out on my poster.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/ApocalypseNow-Jap-Brando-Before.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/marklawd/media/ApocalypseNow-Jap-Brando-Before.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/marklawd/ApocalypseNow-Jap-Brando-After.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/marklawd/media/ApocalypseNow-Jap-Brando-After.jpg.html)
Mark
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Looks great.
How did you find PM's price scale vs. other restorers?
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Very reasonable - particularly the initial cost of backing - there was also 4 hours of restoration work @ $90/hour.
Mark
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What were they doing for four hours? You sure your weren't paying for a blog post... I don't see any paper loss and the creases would have just needed minor touch up... Am I missing something?
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What were they doing for four hours? You sure your weren't paying for a blog post... I don't see any paper loss and the creases would have just needed minor touch up... Am I missing something?
See Charlie now wasn't that fun to post? ;) It sure made me chuckle...
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The poster suffered from dozens of white scratches - you can see some of them along the tree line - I thought 3 hours work would be about right but I'm not quibbling over another hour.
Mark
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It does look quite the ticket Mark, how was the postage costs there and back?
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I handled Mark's Apocalypse Now poster in transit and that 'before' picture is way too kind.
That poster was a mess.
Great job by Poster Mountain!
Congratulations, Mark!
cheers
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............how was the postage costs there and back?
A fair bit - I had it shipped to Ted initially who helped ship it on to Dario in Canada - I forgot it was too large for Dario - he sent it back over the border to Poster Mountain who shipped it on to the UK.
Mark
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It looks incredible Mark. And v glad you got it back in one piece !
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The poster looks great, Mark. Yet another example of PM's attention to detail and care.
This poster must look stunning in person!!
Congrats.
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Bride of Frankenstein pressbook, restored in August, 2013. Front and back covers, showing before and after the restoration was complete.
More great work from John and Co at PM. bed1
Details of the entire process can be read (along with more great pix) here on their blog entry from Aug 19, 2013:
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/08/bride-of-frankenstein-pressbook.html
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bofbefore_zps3be93a88.jpg)
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bofafter_zpsf34e4704.jpg)
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The Garden of Allah (1927); US OS:
Washing, some bleaching to lessen those stained areas and airbrushing, but considering it's previous state and the fact that the background was just the natural paper color, I think this turned out really very fine. clap
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/garden_zpsda9155f8.jpg)
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Should have censored out the blood :-*
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Grief - that is beyond impressive.
Superb work.
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Bride of Frankenstein pressbook, restored in August, 2013. Front and back covers, showing before and after the restoration was complete.
More great work from John and Co at PM. bed1
Details of the entire process can be read (along with more great pix) here on their blog entry from Aug 19, 2013:
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2013/08/bride-of-frankenstein-pressbook.html
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bofbefore_zps3be93a88.jpg)
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/bofafter_zpsf34e4704.jpg)
Absolutely phenomenal. Does any one have any idea how much that would set someone back? I have an important 1920s paperback book I've been meaning to get restored (unless Charlie's up to it!)...
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Hi Julia,
I think prices can vary a bit and it pays to look around. PM will charge more a premium, from my experience, whereas other restorers of the same quality and caliber - Mario Cueva, for example at Lumiere Poster Restoration, (and both located in So Calif, where I am, hence these 2 examples), may be less. I found this out when getting some pricing estimates from each for the same item.
But both do very fine work, too, imo.
Jeff
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Poster Mountain did a really good job restoring this Sarsaparilla poster.
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-do-you-pronounce-sarsaparilla.html (http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2014/07/how-do-you-pronounce-sarsaparilla.html)
The soda, Sarsaparilla, dates back to the 19th century, and it's really incredible the advertising that companies of "miracle elixirs," sodas, etc. got away with, as they alleged to cure numerous ailments without any scientific proof. Based on this timeline from the FDA (http://www.fda.gov/aboutfda/whatwedo/history/milestones/ucm128305.htm), it appears that the poster was probably made before 1938. It's an interesting piece of history.
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I need to try out PM and Lumiere, I have a few posters I want restored soon.
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Great blog entry posted, Brandon.
That poster turned out very nice.
And it's an interesting piece of Americana, too.
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An entry from the PM blog.. with some nice recapping as well as a great selection of posters (film and vintage advertising) they have applied their restoration and linen backing magic to: thumbsup.gif
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2014/04/customer-thank-you-and-discount.html#!/2014/04/customer-thank-you-and-discount.html (http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2014/04/customer-thank-you-and-discount.html#!/2014/04/customer-thank-you-and-discount.html)
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A 3 part entry from PM concerning the long and ongoing restoration of a 1927 US OS for the film, Women Love Diamonds. Made more tricky and challenging due to the amount of paper loss in the center of the poster, with no other OS or reference material on which to base the recreation of part of the dress worn by actress Pauline Starke, who graces the poster.
The work up to this point looks incredible, considering the condition the poster was in initially. clap clap
Part I: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2015/06/women-love-diamonds-episode-1.html
Part II: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2015/07/women-love-diamonds-episode-2.html
Part III: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/
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Jeezum crow.
Talk about your magic acts.
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The latest blog entry from PM. And what a beautiful, Renault poster being worked on.
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2016/12/renault-restoration-part-1.html
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AL7uGsG74ng/WEsrtdEOSKI/AAAAAAAANhM/VoiJIzh2T6U9zZhyFArFZC6t0j4pGqYAACLcB/s640/Renault%2BMounted.jpg)
Looking forward to seeing the end result in Part II.
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Wow definitely some great work there.
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These four "episodes" on the PM blog, showing the restoration work done on a US OS for a film called Women Love Diamonds (1927) is truly amazing to read and SEE, considering this project started back in June of 2015!
Some great looking work was done here on this long road. clap clap
Episode 1: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2015/06/women-love-diamonds-episode-1.html
Episode 2: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2015/07/women-love-diamonds-episode-2.html
Episode 3: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2016/07/women-love-diamonds-episode-3.html
Episode 4: http://postermountain.blogspot.com/
From this:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nF0vzybrqH8/WR8iz4T2tfI/AAAAAAAANmY/yVPTFjye5yQnmBWEVT4CVKRnqjobbUZkgCLcB/s1600/DSC_0013.JPG)
To this:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WwD9YAJqz08/WR8sRPJUXWI/AAAAAAAANnM/rDfAZEdh0U0h1aWQDsEMmWibmWeCSAa3QCLcB/s1600/WOMEN%2BLOVE%2BDIAMONDS%2BAFTER.jpg)
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Beautiful work, but it brings up the perennial question. When over half of the poster is created from blank paper, is it still a restoration, or a recreation.
Before you answer, think about this. I take one of those Dracula 1 sheets, cut it into 16 pieces and then create 16 copies, are they restorations?
BTW, I know we go through this periodically and never have a solid answer, so probably best to consider it rhetorically
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Gulp, reminds me of the Dead Sea scrolls:
(http://deadseascrollsfoundation.com/images/words_moses_e.jpg)
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Here's a question. When is there too little of a poster to redo and still call it an original? What I see in the picture above is that more than 1/2 the poster (or at least the most significant part) had to be redone. So more than 1/2 is a repro. Not worth it, imo.
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Yeah, the body (literally) of the the poster and Pauline Starke had to be re-created, so it does make for an interesting question, since such a large % had to be redone.
And I wonder if this was an only known copy of this OS?
But the end result sure turned out nice.
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Yeah, the body (literally) of the the poster and Pauline Starke had to be re-created, so it does make for an interesting question, since such a large % had to be redone.
And I wonder if this was an only known copy of this OS?
But the end result sure turned out nice.
If it's the only known copy, then all the dress and background details would only be guesses. If a real copy surfaced someday, then the guesses would be worthless.
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From the blog entry in Part II, it looks like not only is this an only known copy, but they could find no pressbook or other image to show what the complete poster looked like.
Here's how it looked when washed, but before any restoration was begun:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hSZ-vjepJj8/VYHjBxf69qI/AAAAAAAAF8o/K8RcStWOPIo/s1600/Back%2Btogether.jpg)
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I, for one, am just happy pieces like this get saved at all. One of a kind, and more great work from Poster Mountain!
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If it's the only known copy, then all the dress and background details would only be guesses. If a real copy surfaced someday, then the guesses would be worthless.
But until then, if ever, it's better to have at least one copy, even if partially restored, so that it can be appreciated and seen, until that elusive, complete OS comes along.
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Nice work---what does something like that cost to do? I imagine there's a hefty price tag.
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Nice work---what does something like that cost to do? I imagine there's a hefty price tag.
I would imagine that final cost is all based on the hourly labor/restoration charge. Currently, that hourly fee is $90.00/hr.
http://www.postermountain.com/pricing.html
So something like this, Im sure, added up to a very pretty penny and that doesn't include the backing charge.
I'd love to know how many hours were spent on this poster to bring it back to life.
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The latest from Poster Mountain and their work on this great looking US OS for the Laurel & Hardy flick, A Haunting We Will Go (1942)
Amazing, final results, once again. clap clap clap
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2017/11/a-haunting-we-will-go.html
Backed only (at the start):
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ju-KTu2d74/WfyJqHaNteI/AAAAAAAANwg/vzqRQdcKoGAqrr74HoTzbV6pfi0h2zqSgCLcBGAs/s640/Haunting%2BMounted.jpg)
And after light restoration was completed:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Lr9KMJESTVw/WfyN3iw-FLI/AAAAAAAANws/tdL5pIZGvC064VUSECrONhaUyvYOm9NIQCLcBGAs/s640/Haunting%2BFinal.jpg)
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What a cracking write-up.
I didn't know that one sanded paper... I thought it was always with a scalpel or some such to get it smoothed over.
Also, I am amazed that border reparations would be anyone's favourite thing to do. Adding a rectangle of paper to a long side would seem to be pretty mundane when measured against colours and artistry.
Thanks for posting here.
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Probably an easy one for PM but my 1968 Follow Me - a very rare rolled 1960s US 1S - got badly crinkled at top so PM charged me $150 to:
The poster was gently humidified in a chamber and was temporarily mounted to a board using our proprietary gelatin procedure in order to flatten out the creases and handling damage.
Before:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_1055_zpsz5rhvimy.jpg)
After:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/FOLLOW%20ME%20MOUNTED_zps2wltp41g.jpg)
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This process can be used for folded posters too if you don't like linen-backing. It can expand the poster however.
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Another cream-puff for PM but shows dramatic improvement of LBing (paint later):
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600-2_zpspskcabbl.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/BRIDE%20OF%20FRANKENSTEIN%20MOUNTED_zps2mmldlib.jpg)
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The latest from the Poster Mountain blog, working on a German VW poster:
http://postermountain.blogspot.com/2018/01/a-small-tear-in-vw-poster.html
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SNMeyNmSH3I/WmJVlcSMXoI/AAAAAAAANyQ/X6G1WVgru1EdugKGI8nZOALFGT0mFz-bACEwYBhgL/s640/VW%2BPOSTER%2BMOUNTED.jpg)
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(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/THE%20KILLERS%20AFTER_zpshzxhhq0s.jpg)
A little braggin', evangalizin', and promotin':
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-02-04%20at%207.42.51%20AM_zpsbepnwsbn.jpg)
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Nice job by PM, as usual.
Just wondering.. Why is there such a color saturation difference between the 2 images? The one on the left (the red background, especially) as well as skin tones etc all are super vivid on the left side image. (I'm assuming the "after" shot is the one on the right, since it's framed?)
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How can one say, Nice job, if we don't know which is the image showing restoration...?!
Anyway, I am figuring the other way around since the fold lines appear less obvious on the left image??
Not sure what else to comment upon here as either way, the restoration has been minimal per the request.
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That’s the pic PM sent me, on left, post-restoration, I didn’t modify
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Guess my eyes are still workin' then...