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Movie Posters => General Discussion => Topic started by: andyvee on September 08, 2013, 10:16:37 PM
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Hello all,
I have recently become a "collector" of movie posters!
Well, not quite. Too many movies, too many themes, so I decided to become a collector of only James Bond movie posters!
Still not quite. There are too many countries, and so I narrowed a little bit more my choices to the two countries that one can say are "more relevant" to James Bond. UK, first and above all, of course, and then, well, US, after all, I found out that Barbara Broccoli lives in California... :-)
Still, after reading a lot about JB posters, I found that there are too many formats, sizes, etc. I needed to narrow even more. So I chose UK original quad and US one sheet.
That narrows my collection to only around 60 posters. That is achievable!!
Well, not really. Dr. No UK quad original can be found for around $25k! That means, I will never be able to afford it and certainly even if I could I would not spend $25k in a movie poster. My dad would disinherit me, my wife would divorce me, my dog would bite me, my daughters would just not understand what's going on ... Just kidding.
So, all considered, I decided to collect PICTURES of the mentioned posters! That is correct, the images, jpg files of those 50-60 posters.
Even if I had all these posters for real, I would not have enough free wall here at home to hang them and even if I had, my wife would never allow me to. So, jpg files are good enough. I can rotate them easily as wallpapers in my big monitor and I certainly will stare at them much more often than if they were hanged in some wall.
So, after reading, searching and studying about JB UK quad and US 1-sheet posters, I got questions. Here they are:
1 - Die Another Day (DAD)
This page, http://www.007magazine.co.uk/factfiles/factfiles_dad.htm, shows a small image for the UK Quad. I cannot see in this small image, the date "20.11.02", in red, at the bottom of it. This is the only site that shows the DAD UK quad with such image (poster with NO date). Any and every other site always shows the same poster but with the date down there. Official posters that show James Bond posters like this
http://www.posterparty.com/images/james-bond-23-british-quads-movie-poster-PYR33026.jpg
also show the date. The book "James Bond, 50 Years of Movie Posters", that shows the UK Quad at the beginning of each section for each JB movie, also shows, for DAD, the UK Quad with the date.
My question is: as far as I could figure out, final versions of posters, like UK quad and US 1 sheet, are not supposed to have the movie release dates, release dates are supposed to exist in "Advance" posters. Why then I cannot find anywhere the DAD UK Quad WITHOUT the said date, except for this one site?
2 - Moonraker (MR)
I have found credible pictures of real original UK quad for MR where some show the big writing as:
"Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as James Bond 007 in Ian Fleming's Moonraker"
while others show:
"Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in Moonraker"
Are there really two versions of the UK Quad for MR?
If so, is any of them more valuable than the other?
I noticed that in later posters (from previous and later movies), it is always "... "Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in ..." so I would guess that the other way to write it should be kind of out of the pattern. Am I right?
3 - The Living Daylights
Why is it so difficult to find information about the UK quad for TLD style B, the one in blue background with the sexy lady in white dress? It seems nobody cares much about this poster, maybe because style A, as I read, was the last JB poster manually drawn by an artist while probably Style B was not entirely manually drawn...
4 - Finding the pictures in high resolution.
I had a very very hard time trying to find high resolution pictures of the posters. I was actually about to give up when I found ha.com. This site was the only one that keeps records and images for all its past sales and I was then able to find nice, big images of almost all the posters that I wanted. BUT a few remain missing, mostly the newer ones (Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall).
Is there a way to "get" high resolution images of these four movies?
I understand movie posters are copyrighted material, so I even bought the book "James Bond, 50 Years of Movie Posters", hoping that it would show ALL main movie posters for all James Bond movies and it ALMOST does that. It does not show the UK Quad final for Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall, instead, it shows Advance for all of them. Why, I don't know. I felt betrayed to have bought the book, find that for every section of every movie it always starts with the UK Quad final, but for the three most recent movies, it does not. Makes no sense... (the book shows only ONE poster for Skyfall...)
My plan was to scan them but first, these three movies are missing the posters that I want, and secondly, the UK quad images are printed across two pages, which makes scanning the images very difficult. Anyway, I would destroy the book if necessary, to have the pages isolated and then get a good scan (and then "glue" the two parts with photoshop) even the book had these posters.
So, my question is... is there a good soul willing to send me good scans of those movies, UK quad and US 1 sheet? Why do I need high resolution? Well, my monitor is 2560x1600px. I can find Skyfall UK quad for sale at 50 sterling pounds, but it is interesting that only a few years after, it is impossible to find UK quad for Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace... You can find UK Quad for Casino Royale (1967) but you cannot for CR 2006. Go figure...
Well, that was it. Thank you.
Andy
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Look at www.emovieposter.com. They have an auction history with pictures of just about everything they have sold. Personally I would rather look there then on HA. Also www.movieposterdb.com might have what you are looking for.
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Not a Bond fan myself and so know only the cursory basics and can't help - but welcome to APF!
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Welcome to APF Andy.
While I'm not a Bond collector, I'm sure some of the many 007 fans on the forum will chip with some useful info on where you can get those scans.
Best of luck on your quest!
cheers
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Welcome to APF, Andy. welcome1
You might also want to get in touch with fellow APF member Adam (APF ID: bondposters) at info@bondposters.com
He's in the UK, is a big Bond collector and seller and should be able to help out in some capacity, too.
Jeff
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Also www.movieposterdb.com might have what you are looking for.
Out of principle, my advice to anyone is NOT to use this site.
They rip off many, many artists.
AND they sell unlicensed reprints.
AND THEY GENUINELY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN.
Bruce's emovieposter is great, heritage auctions is also great.
And if you need any help, just as Ted and Jeff have alluded to, get in touch with one of the Bond collectors/sellers such as myself, "Simes" or "harrycaul" who are fantastic Bond collectors.
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
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So, all considered, I decided to collect PICTURES of the mentioned posters! That is correct, the images, jpg files of those 50-60 posters.
Welcome Andy! As you are running into with Moonraker, I think the more you dig you'll quickly find that there are many, MANY more posters, print variants, teasers, special posters than you originally anticipated. I just did a quick count of my UK quad list (including posters I'm looking for but do not have) and it's at 62 posters. I know for a fact that I'm missing about 10 or more on that list as well. If you factor in double and triple bill posters that number will go up by another 25-30... possibly more. And I don't even collect US 1-sheets as I figured I would be busy from now until the end of time just getting the quads -- some of which are VERY expensive and rare as you have found out.
As for your specific questions...
1. I only know of (3) DAD quads... 1) Pierce and Halle point gun teaser, 2) gun on ice teaser, 3) full collage regular release with date.
2. Yes, there are 2 different credit versions of Moonraker. It is my understanding that the version with "Albert R. Broccoli presents Roger Moore as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in Moonraker" is a misprint and it was replaced by the other version. The misprint seems to be more rare and should in theory be more expensive... that said, the two versions are almost never differentiated in sales descriptions and they often sell for the same price-ish. By the way, there is also a third Moonraker quad with tie-in with Seiko watches -- that one is also rare but doesn't sell for all that much I think due to the very "advertising" feel of it (less like art).
3. There are (3) Living Daylights posters... 1) a blue background teaser with just Bond, 2) the advance with the girl in the white dress, and 3) the art montage poster. I think none of these posters are in very much demand due to them being not particularly rare and Dalton never really taking off as Bond. I found all three for well under $100 USD with patience and waiting for auctions with low starting bids.
4. As others have said, check Heritage, eMovieposter, Christies, or even just google image searches.
Welcome to the esoteric world of the Bond collector!
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welcome1 to the forum Andy, enjoy.
And as Adam forgot to mention ;), I also collect only British Bond posters. I only need one to have a Quad from every film, though I do have several from most... Happy hunting.
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That is correct lol.
Sorry, Paul.
Andy - if you need help with UK quads, Paul is the guy.
Best collector of UK quads I know (a sentiment I feel others here will agree with) whom I've had the pleasure of meeting.
Matt is right - do a little more digging and you'll be blown away with how many posters there actually are!
I have to disagree with Matt just a little though in regards to the MR Seiko quad.
In my experience, they go for more based on the fact they are a lot rarer than the others.
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Thanks Adam, I'll let you off... ;)
And I must agree, the Seiko Quads have always gone for more, even tatty ones.
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By the way, there is also a third Moonraker quad with tie-in with Seiko watches -- that one is also rare but doesn't sell for all that much I think due to the very "advertising" feel of it (less like art).
As you'll notice, I didn't say it goes for less then the regular version -- it only meant that it doesn't seem to sell for as much as you would think given the rarity. And lately, I doubt there is much of a disparity at all. Moonraker used to be a about a $100 (or less) quad for many years. I got my rolled mis-credit version for $50 only 3-4 years ago! For some unknown reason to me (more collectors?) it has lately been selling for $200-$300, if not more, on eBay UK. The few Seikos I've seen were not far off from that. Given, it's been a while since I've seen one for sale publicly...
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Out of principle, my advice to anyone is NOT to use this site.
They rip off many, many artists.
AND they sell unlicensed reprints.
AND THEY GENUINELY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN.
Bruce's emovieposter is great, heritage auctions is also great.
And if you need any help, just as Ted and Jeff have alluded to, get in touch with one of the Bond collectors/sellers such as myself, "Simes" or "harrycaul" who are fantastic Bond collectors.
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
I'm just saying he could use that site for an image.
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Harry, I must say I would be interested in seeing what one would sell for now, with the recent price hike on this poster.. I need the watch version myself, so would be bidding unless it went into silly money...
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As you'll notice, I didn't say it goes for less then the regular version -- it only meant that it doesn't seem to sell for as much as you would think given the rarity. And lately, I doubt there is much of a disparity at all. Moonraker used to be a about a $100 (or less) quad for many years. I got my rolled mis-credit version for $50 only 3-4 years ago! For some unknown reason to me (more collectors?) it has lately been selling for $200-$300, if not more, on eBay UK. The few Seikos I've seen were not far off from that. Given, it's been a while since I've seen one for sale publicly...
Sorry, mate.
Didn't mean any bad.
I'm just saying he could use that site for an image.
No problem! :-)
I still think that for even images staying clear of the place is the best thing.
The owners are an absolute joke to the hobby and amazingly some collectors and dealers actively promote it! Crazy.
Harry, I must say I would be interested in seeing what one would sell for now, with the recent price hike on this poster.. I need the watch version myself, so would be bidding unless it went into silly money...
Me too... Maybe I should sell mine!
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Sorry, mate.
Didn't mean any bad.
Should have put in a smiley... I was trying to get off on a technicality! :)
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Ha, no problem! :-)
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No problem! :-)
I still think that for even images staying clear of the place is the best thing.
The owners are an absolute joke to the hobby and amazingly some collectors and dealers actively promote it! Crazy.
I still like to use emovie for images though.
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Hi Andy, and welcome.
1. You will find with recent posters that there are multiple digital variations on the internet of a poster theme but that when push comes to shove, not all will be printed. I would assume with the DAD poster that this is one such occasion. I am aware that with Skyfall suggested to offer many Coming Soon variants of version 1 (in the tunnel), and no such posters became available through the usual ebay channels. (Adam will say that one or two were printed as test runs, but in terms of commercial availability...)
2. There is the Seiko version for Moonraker and also a Seiko version for Spy Who Loved Me.
3. Not sure. Info IS available...
4. Bondposters.com and LAMP ( http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/INDEX/COUNTRIES/UK/BritishLegends/JamesBond/JamesBond.asp ) may offer such images, although Adam's Bondposters.com images are heavily watermarked so may not be what you need.
In terms of sheer numbers of posters, I am afraid there are hundreds across purely the UK and US market. Indeed, I have 26 UK and US posters for Just Skyfall - but I am afraid this may indicate a hint of obsession. Like you, and for this reason, I too collect only the US and UK market, but I try to collect everything that is available.
Best of luck.
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Like you, and for this reason, I too collect only the US and UK market, but I try to collect everything that is available.
Best of luck.
Simes is a bit conservative here ;)
He has some amazing stuff.
Your best bet if you do decide to purchase actual posters is to save a little and try to buy a collection as this will give you a great start, but finding a ready-made collection for sale these days isn't easy.
My advice is to also look on other forums such as the other main poster forum MPF (http://movieposterforum.com) and film/collector forums.
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My advice is to also look on other forums such as the other main poster forum MPF (http://movieposterforum.com) and film/collector forums.
Funny.
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Funny.
MPF is still very useful and other collector and film forums really are worth a look.
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Hi,
Thank you all for the replies.
First, let me tell you all again that I am trying to find IMAGE files of James Bond posters. I am not buying a real poster. I did buy two books to try and find the posters that I wanted to scan, but unfortunately these two books were as good as nothing. They don't have the few posters that I am missing.
So, again, images! JPG files and the like.
Being said that, I can find images in the internet, but they are mostly useless because they are small resolution. I use a 2560px monitor and so I am looking for high resolution images.
emovieposter.com, for images, is, sorry to say that, a joke. Their "large image" is actually very small and they also add a watermark to all their images, as if they could be any useful for being that small. Also, I may be doing something wrong but I tried to find the UK Quad of Casino Royale (2006), and although emovieposters.com showed me 496 related items, ZERO find for what I wanted. So, emovieposters.com, for my needs, is no good.
emovieposterdb.com - I didn't know this one. I tried a search for UK Quad Casino Royale (2006) and found an image 638x850px, not good enough. (I already have it in 1024x768, found using Google images). They do seem to have lots of material at high resolution but not the UK Quad I am looking for. Skyfall UK also is not available. They charge for the download but it is a very small fee that I wouldn't mind at all paying if they had the posters I want.
@Harry Caul - thank you for the explanations; I should assume then that the DAD poster shown in 007magazine.co.uk is then a fake, edited.
@paul waines - congratulations for your UK REAL JB poster collection. I can't afford and will not start a real collection though, I am looking for image files only. THAT I should be able to afford... :-) - Do you happen to have high resolution images for UK Quads? I am missing a few...
@Simes - I am interested only in OFFICIAL UK Quad that were printed, and also US 1-sheet. That is my goal for now. I may later expand my idea but if I can't even get what I want for these two formats only, why bother with other formats. The DAD Seiko poster is not in my list because, although it is official, it has the ad. I personally don't like it. I am not basing my idea on how much a poster is worthy but on completeness based on my definition of what I am looking for.
And, yes, watermarked images are no good.
@bondposters: Sorry, but I am not going to buy real posters. They are expensive and they are not what I want. I could not have all JB posters in a room for my viewing, but I can have a website where I can easily look at them when I want. If copyright is a problem, I make my website private. I don't see the meaning of starting a collection that I would never be able to complete, because UK Quad JB poster can become VERY VERY Expensive, like 25k for Dr. No. So, no buying.
I am though willing to pay a reasonable value for the images of them, in high resolution...
I am putting up a private site with "my UK Quad virutal collection". I will show it here when done. I am missing some posters though, in the quality that I want.
Thank you all.
Andy
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Can someone please tell me if the suit used by Daniel Craig in the official 2006 Casino Royale one and only UK Quad poster is black or navy or something else? Thanks.
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A virutal collection... hmmm,
Some of us enjoy sleeping with our posters bed1 and some unfolding smelly posters and having a sniff.
It sounds a bit rough collecting something that you can't touch, and that also goes off with the power.
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A virutal collection... hmmm,
Some of us enjoy sleeping with our posters bed1 and some unfolding smelly posters and having a sniff.
It sounds a bit rough collecting something that you can't touch, and that also goes off with the power.
I obviously understand your point of view and it makes a lot of sense but it all boils down to money and priorities we have in life with what to do with our money.
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Just noticed... a virtual collection, with no actual posters???
Very odd if you aren't going to buy even a single poster.
I also don't think you have read people's responses properly going from your reply.
I think you need to think more about what you are actually trying to do.
Why create a website like the one you are proposing when there are websites which already do this? You can purchase James Bond posters for varying amounts and the time it will take for you to build your website could be better spent on acquiring actual posters. And a lot of them aren't as expensive as you think.
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Andy - what do you class as 'big' files?
I have some images ready to go at 1 to 1.5 Mb if that is helpful. If so, pop me a PM with an email address and I can shoot over your wants that I already have available. That said, my digital images only go as far back as Casino Royale in terms of recent releases and whatever I have happened to buy in the meantime (I do have a Moonraker image); and I would prefer not to photograph more.
Anyway, maybe this is a start for ten.
Cheers.
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Out of principle, my advice to anyone is NOT to use this site.
They rip off many, many artists.
AND they sell unlicensed reprints.
AND THEY GENUINELY DO NOT GIVE A DAMN.
Bruce's emovieposter is great, heritage auctions is also great.
And if you need any help, just as Ted and Jeff have alluded to, get in touch with one of the Bond collectors/sellers such as myself, "Simes" or "harrycaul" who are fantastic Bond collectors.
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
After trying to find the posters that I am missing (in the resolution that I want, I mean) in this site (movieposterdb dot com) I have to agree with you that they are a total rip-off. I could not find any of the posters that I am looking for and the ones I have seen there, although too many, look like they were harvested from the internet itself. And the quality (resolution) is so low in many posters that it is impossible to take seriously such a site. they seem to sell crap although they do charge very low, still too much for the crap they "sell". You can find better images or the same in google images, bing images, etc., for free.
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Just noticed... a virtual collection, with no actual posters???
Very odd if you aren't going to buy even a single poster.
I also don't think you have read people's responses properly going from your reply.
I think you need to think more about what you are actually trying to do.
Why create a website like the one you are proposing when there are websites which already do this? You can purchase James Bond posters for varying amounts and the time it will take for you to build your website could be better spent on acquiring actual posters. And a lot of them aren't as expensive as you think.
I have read carefully every one of the replies in this thread, trust me.
Show me ONE, just one, site that has all the correct and OFFICIAL non-advance regular Quad UK posters for all 25 James Bond movies in an acceptable resolution (at least 1024x768px) and quality!
When you build your own site, you have freedom. Again, this is for my own pleasure. I am an on-and-off fan of James Bond. Right now, I am in the "on" state. It will pass. Then it will come back... I am not a fanatic, I am a fan, regular fan, that happens to like to have fun in my computer and right now my "project" is to build this site and collect the images.
I will probably later, if my wife does not get too mad at me for wasting my time with these "unimportant things", add all US 1-sheet posters too. These are much easier to find than the damned Quad UK.
Some people take pleasure with having physically some thing. Some take enough pleasure with having a virtual thing. If this was not true, many games in Facebook (of which one I have been very addicted in the past) would not exist.
Cheers,
Andy
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Sent you a pm, Andy.
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Surely there's a book, I now sorry it's paper, but a book with every damn bond poster ever? Of there's not then someone should do it, but I'm sure there would be.
That would be a darn site better than a folder of jpgs surely?
Or am I just too much of a paperphile?
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I believe there is one James Bond 50 Years of Movie Posters. I found it rather good, though can't say I am an expert on Mr 007 films or posters...!
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I bought the James Bond 50 Years of Movie Posters. It is a nice book but it states that it covers all the movies up to and including Skyfall which is a big overstatement, if not a plain lie. It covers up to Quantum of Solace. For Skyfall, it has only ONE poster, the "International" format, nothing else. Even a description about Skyfall is missing. They only have this one poster for Skyfall and absolutely nothing else. So, they put it there just to be able to advertise that the book "covers all 25 JB movies to date".
Also, they start each section, for each movie, with a big picture of the UK quad except for Casino Royale (2006) and obviously Skyfall. Why not show the final UK quad for Casino Royale, I don't know. They use the advance version which is pretty much the same as the final but with the release date, still not the final version.
For the price, around US$30, it is still worthy, if you want to see tons of JB posters. It is big and heavy. But I am sure that there will never be a comprehensive and complete book of ALL official JB posters ever produced. Too many countries, too many movies, too many formats, too many variations, too many styles...
I also bought the book The Official 007 Collection James Bond Movie Posters. I could not resist the price: US$1.50 (plus US$3 for S&H). It was supposed to be a paperback version but I received the hardcover, and it is in mint condition. I will not complain and not return it... :). But I am glad I paid this much for it because it is essentially the same as the first one but covering all the movies except the most recent ones (3 or 4 last ones). It has the same size, same pictures, with little variation from the newer book. They changed a little the order, layout, but it is the same book. The author is different but I am skeptical. The two books are so alike that it is weird to think that they have different authors. Probably the same people is behind both books.
The newer book has more posters than the older one for all the movies though.
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Well, I think you answered your own question. The poster book does cover all the movies; it just doesn't cover ALL of the posters from all of the movies.
Thing is, these books will always be a halfway house between being a complete catalogue and something that doesn't 'waste' paper on 10 printings of what is essentially the same poster, but with dated variations - as what happened for all three versions of the Skyfall posters.
These forum sites dedicate so much time to unearthing the variations, and in our own little intra niche world, it is fun... But I would bet a pinch to a pound of sh1t that if a book of just all the UK Bond posters was attempted to be published, variations would be missed.
Perhaps as an exercise, naming all the Bond UK quads should be attempted. Might have a think about it, but I reckon there will be around 80.
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Might have a think about it, but I reckon there will be around 80.
....I was short!
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I saw your list, pretty long and informative!
Very nice.
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http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ntt=james+bond+quad
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http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ntt=james+bond+quad
Yes, lots of nice pretty, high-resolution photos at HA.
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HA.com was the main and probably ONE reason I decided to make a site showing nice posters of James Bond. I was looking for images all over, most are not good enough, too small, or badly scanned, etc, but ha.com was precious. A few of the ones I wanted, they don't have but, well, nobody is perfect (or should I say nothing is perfect)! :-)
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I doubt this is of interest, but Bruce does have a set of good repros of the first 6 Bond movie UK Quads closing this afternoon.
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3103164
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I doubt this is of interest, but Bruce does have a set of good repros of the first 6 Bond movie UK Quads closing this afternoon.
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=3103164
Thanks for the info. US$208 for 6 posters, reproductions, is too high for me. I want $10 posters. As long as they show the exact same original design, it would be fine for me. The extra price of being "vintage" or "originals" is usually too high. I am not an investor, I am a fan.
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For very many (if not most), it's not about investing - it's about how you see the hobby and what gives you the most enjoyment from it.
;D
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I decided to read the terms of the bidding for those 6 posters and I have to say they are draconian... You buy things you have not seen, the seller has not seen them as well, you cannot return them and the zoom of those thumbnails bring ... the same thumbnails...
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I decided to read the terms of the bidding for those 6 posters and I have to say they are draconian... You buy things you have not seen, the seller has not seen them as well, you cannot return them and the zoom of those thumbnails bring ... the same thumbnails...
You clicked on the wrong thumbnails... look more closely and carefully, (scroll lower on the page) and you can click on the thumbs that will take you to the SUPER sized images of each of the 6. ;)
One link, as an example, from that listing:
http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/giant_size.php?lot=2s308&image=british_quad_lot_of_6_shot01_MF01231_L.jpg
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For very many (if not most), it's not about investing - it's about how you see the hobby and what gives you the most enjoyment from it.
;D
Well put. Though there are some posters that will hold a/o increase its value.
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You clicked on the wrong thumbnails... look more closely and carefully, (scroll lower on the page) and you can click on the thumbs that will take you to the SUPER sized images of each of the 6. ;)
One link, as an example, from that listing:
http://www.emovieposter.com/gallery/inc/giant_size.php?lot=2s308&image=british_quad_lot_of_6_shot01_MF01231_L.jpg
Thank you. 18 years of internet use and I can still be a total dumb sometimes... :)
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Andy, at the time I posted that pointer the lot was at $80, which is in the ballpark of the $10/ea. Even at $208, it is only $35/poster.
Bruce's Sunday auctions of large lots are not typical of most of his auctions. Usually he allows returns with no questions asked. However, the bulk lot stuff is kind of like those remainder books in the vestibule of Barnes and Noble. Bruce doesn't see great value, so he says buy them as a lot, and never let them darken my doorways again.
You are obviously not a collector, and are looking for stuff that has value to collectors at fire sale prices. Suggest you try flea Markets and be prepared to search long and hard. The reality is that Bond material has been desirable for many years and Connery stuff hasn't seen the prices you are offering since the mid-70s.
You were looking for high res images, but I am sorry to say we couldn't help. Nothing is going to make them magically appear. Perhaps you could convince Adam or one of the other big Bond collectors to scan them (for a price)
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I'm very worried Andy is the start of the "new-age" collector.... this is the slippery slop to all of us getting rid of all this useless, heavy, space taking up paper, and having it all on a flash pen...
Beware! the end is Nigh, remember his name, this is where it all started..... :( Soon Apes will rule the planet..........Wait a minuet, Ted's a Moderator.....Yikes, head for the Hills..
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Andy, at the time I posted that pointer the lot was at $80, which is in the ballpark of the $10/ea. Even at $208, it is only $35/poster.
Bruce's Sunday auctions of large lots are not typical of most of his auctions. Usually he allows returns with no questions asked. However, the bulk lot stuff is kind of like those remainder books in the vestibule of Barnes and Noble. Bruce doesn't see great value, so he says buy them as a lot, and never let them darken my doorways again.
You are obviously not a collector, and are looking for stuff that has value to collectors at fire sale prices. Suggest you try flea Markets and be prepared to search long and hard. The reality is that Bond material has been desirable for many years and Connery stuff hasn't seen the prices you are offering since the mid-70s.
You were looking for high res images, but I am sorry to say we couldn't help. Nothing is going to make them magically appear. Perhaps you could convince Adam or one of the other big Bond collectors to scan them (for a price)
I am not offering $10 for JB valuable posters that I know are worth tens, hundreds or even thousands times more, that would be silly. I am saying that I'd like $10 reproductions existed for JB posters. They do exist but mostly for US posters, not for quads. I have seen the mini-quads too, they are fine, but the collection now for sale is incomplete and incorrect.
Reproductions, in my POV, do not diminish the value of the real deal, they are a completely different "market". Original is original, reproduction is not original so they could cost $10 each and still be of good quality, representing faithfully the original posters.
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I'm very worried Andy is the start of the "new-age" collector.... this is the slippery slop to all of us getting rid of all this useless, heavy, space taking up paper, and having it all on a flash pen...
Beware! the end is Nigh, remember his name, this is where it all started..... :( Soon Apes will rule the planet..........Wait a minuet, Ted's a Moderator.....Yikes, head for the Hills..
I disagree. A collector would never settle for a reproduction. You guys like the real deal. It is just that each person has its values and for me, because it is just a piece of paper with a very nice and representative graphics on it, I can't see myself paying too much money for them. As I said and say it again, I like the image, not the paper. I can be amazed by staring at them in a monitor.
I already have all the images I need to finish my "gallery". Some of them I'd like to have in bigger resolutions, but what I have now is good enough for what I want to do.
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Whatever floats each of our boats...
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Reproductions, in my POV, do not diminish the value of the real deal, they are a completely different "market". Original is original, reproduction is not original so they could cost $10 each and still be of good quality, representing faithfully the original posters.
Well, yes and no.
Stuff that is done on a large printer from a high res image will cost a fair chunk of that $10 in ink and paper. Packaging and shipping will put it well over $10.
Some of the repro stuff has been made just for the collector market. A custom litho is created and a limited run is made. A number of these were done in the '70s-'90s. They tend to be for posters whose prices have shot through the stratosphere, and they are significantly cheaper, but they are not $10 posters either, due to the nature of how they were created and their relative rarity.
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The S2s are another example of fine "reproductions" that were made on antique litho presses, for some of the best films of various early decades. True lithos, yes, but still reproductions.
And they were last being sold, a few months ago, for $128.00 each (from the company directly); that is a bit of a jump from the 10 dollar number.
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OK so I'm totally biased, but if you want an affordable way of collecting movie poster art - consider Japanese chirashi. High quality prints, great artwork, can be easily stored in a folder in your bookcase for easy viewing, and best of all can be bought for the most part under $10. (They're easy to scan too). As genuine theatrical movie items, they are not worthless like repros.
The best part is that its possible to put together a superb collection of posters without mortgaging the house. I myself have around 1000 posters in my collection, many that I consider 'gems' (classic movie, fantastic artwork) and would cost a horrendous amount to buy otherwise. My entire collection takes up about 24 inches on my bookcase :)
Anyway... you can check out my Bond posters here: http://www.jposter.net/posters/series.asp?sid=6 (http://www.jposter.net/posters/series.asp?sid=6). And if you're interested, I have high-res 300dpi scans of them all (2000px x 3000px) that you're welcome to, so long as you don't go reprinting them :)
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Hello all,
I have recently become a "collector" of movie posters!
Dude, being a "digital only" collector - for lack of a better word - of posters is like being a suburban sex dungeon master. It's disreputable and sordid and something you really don't want to publicly admit.
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It isn't !! I told everyone when I ran my dungeon. whip ;)
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It isn't !! I told everyone when I ran my dungeon. whip ;)
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It isn't !! I told everyone when I ran my dungeon. whip ;)
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He is not only the quad Master.
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Dude, being a "digital only" collector - for lack of a better word - of posters is like being a suburban sex dungeon master. It's disreputable and sordid and something you really don't want to publicly admit.
You don't respect other peoples' way of thinking when it does not match yours.
I _am_ a "digital-only" collector and I hereby publicly admit it and I don't care what you think about me.
@jposter.net: I am humbled by your offer. Thank you. I will take a look at your website and I may contact you later. I want to have my website running first so people can see clearly what my intentions are for the images. Unfortunately, it's been taking much longer than I expected to create it but I am having lots of fun learning new things.
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I think it is just because the raison d'etre for this site is that 'it is art on paper; the touch, feel, restoration, authenticity' of which that is what the readers are concerned about and interested in. Copying and pasting images from the 'net is of little or no interest here, imho.
It would be like a camper turning up on a caravanner's site and then saying, 'but I too like to stay in sh1tty accomodation when on holiday.'
(There might be mixed messages in this last, but am sure you can figure it out)
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I think it is just because the raison d'etre for this site is that ... blah blah blah
It is "raison d'être" (my own native language uses diacritics so it hurts me when people disregard them) and I don't understand your analogy. Too advanced for my IQ.
You have paper poster and you have electronic binary representation of an image that corresponds to that poster (a jpeg, for instance). BTW, these days, the latter is probably much more often created first.
You have live music and you have electronic binary representation of a music (an mp3 file, for instance).
Some of you loath to accept collection of images of posters.
I guess you only listen to music when you go to a live presentation then, otherwise you would be a hypocrite.
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Just go to movieposterdb.com, buy some credits, and download a couple thousand Bond posters in large JPEG format for a few bucks:
http://www.movieposterdb.com/movie/0055928/Dr-No.html
Then maybe you'll be happy....
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Collecting digital images from the web or buying them in bulk on CD and posting them on the web as some sort of collecting victory is ridiculous. Images can be obtained in bulk, including high res, for nothing easily with next to no effort or little interest in the subject.
Many of us have large collections of images, likely many multiples of quantity you currently have. They are mostly want lists. We wouldn't even consider showing them as some sort of victory.
You can of course trumpet your newly acquired digital images if you like, however to some like me it looks infantile.
2 things:
- some consider high res images one step away from encouraging reproducing fakes which is rather frowned upon in this forum
- obtaining images without acknowledgement of the source is also considered by some as inappropriate. That someone put the effort into photographing which can involve a lot of time and effort and equipment. While it may be legal to take them in some circumstances, that doesn't make it acceptable, like farting or sneezing in someones face.
If anyone gives you high res images, they should be prepared those images can be used for anything. They are lost into the wild. You may indicate their intended purpose, however, they may be taken from your site/computer/usb against all your best intentions. You start off saying they are for use as a background to your pc, then as a website with good intentions... The use will change as all things do, yet those images cant be taken back.
Because you have missed the mark on so many levels, I can only think you have little regard, which is fine, but you will receive hostility. I reckon you could be a psychopath!:
Psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms.
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This reminds me of a quote from one of my very favorite movies, Hoosiers:
"Look, mister, there's... two kinds of dumb, uh... guy that gets naked and runs out in the snow and barks at the moon, and, uh, guy who does the same thing in my living room. First one don't matter, the second one you're kinda forced to deal with."
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Reproductions, in my POV, do not diminish the value of the real deal, they are a completely different "market". Original is original, reproduction is not original so they could cost $10 each and still be of good quality, representing faithfully the original posters.
"Digital only" eh?
After hanging around here you are already considering paper. ;) Great stuff.
I agree with your above quote,there is nothing wrong with collecting repos,some of them can be almost as good as the real deal.
Best of luck with the collection.
Stew
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Collecting digital images from the web or buying them in bulk on CD and posting them on the web as some sort of collecting victory is ridiculous. Images can be obtained in bulk, including high res, for nothing easily with next to no effort or little interest in the subject.
Many of us have large collections of images, likely many multiples of quantity you currently have. They are mostly want lists. We wouldn't even consider showing them as some sort of victory.
You can of course trumpet your newly acquired digital images if you like, however to some like me it looks infantile.
2 things:
- some consider high res images one step away from encouraging reproducing fakes which is rather frowned upon in this forum
- obtaining images without acknowledgement of the source is also considered by some as inappropriate. That someone put the effort into photographing which can involve a lot of time and effort and equipment. While it may be legal to take them in some circumstances, that doesn't make it acceptable, like farting or sneezing in someones face.
If anyone gives you high res images, they should be prepared those images can be used for anything. They are lost into the wild. You may indicate their intended purpose, however, they may be taken from your site/computer/usb against all your best intentions. You start off saying they are for use as a background to your pc, then as a website with good intentions... The use will change as all things do, yet those images cant be taken back.
Because you have missed the mark on so many levels, I can only think you have little regard, which is fine, but you will receive hostility. I reckon you could be a psychopath!:
Psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms.
The way I see it, from my point of view, you look like the psychopath here coming to dark conclusions about my character based on a few posts about James Bond posters. It is like I am a one-dimensional character from a cartoon movie. That is insane. Where did I claim any victory here about anything? Where did you see any image that I have posted in the internet besides the few ones that I linked to this thread to get to any conclusion about what I am doing? How many images do you know I want to "collect"? You know nothing, John Snow!
I started this as a challenge to myself, to build a simple, small website with the images of only the regular 23 quad posters of JB movies and US 1-sheets. I am doing _almost_ exactly that and that is my goal and I will stop at the completion of my goal because I don't see any personal reason to go beyond it. It has already taken too much of my time but since I am having fun learning new things (about Photoshop, mostly, also about some cool thing, html5, etc.) I will not stop until I am done. For me, the challenge of doing this, the website, the coding, is more relevant and satisfying than possessing the pictures of the posters. I am a hobbyist programmer much more than I am a JB poster "collector". Many the things I am learning I will not even use in the website.
I said "_almost_" because I have adapted my plans. I have discarded the idea of having the US-1 sheets (that would be much easier to find online) but I added all the Styles for the quads (and later I _may_ include the Advance quads if I can find enough of them). So I removed tens and added like 8 more, and may add, in the future, 15-20 more, and that's it. US-1 sheets have a different format and it is incompatible with my current "framework" for the quads.
And as I asked here once, show me ONE only website that shows, in one place, ALL regular quads for ALL JB movies correctly and in a decent resolution! There is none! Even the official books are missing. The famous JB websites I found all have miniature thumbnails of the posters.
And BTW, almost all images that I will use are from ha.com. Anyone can go there and look at them in a much higher resolution that the one I am going to use. If not for that site, I would have given up because if I was to depend on collectors like most of you here to get images, I'd be damned. Most of you, with some notable and rare exceptions, are too spoiled with your paper poster collection to understand and want to help. Spoiled and maybe afraid that your precious collection of thousands of posters will have its value diminished if a random guy creates a website showing 25-40 images of them.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/OfY5eXRuVn0
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Where did I claim any victory here about anything? Where did you see any image that I have posted in the internet besides the few ones that I linked to this thread to get to any conclusion about what I am doing?
here in another thread... a picture of a sign you said you Photoshopped. Your collection you said will involve photoshopping so this sign is a sign of your signs you are doing
(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/andyvee_lost_the_plot.jpg)
You know nothing, John Snow!
That's 'Jon (http://www.digitalspy.com.au/fun/s151/game-of-thrones/news/a472250/you-know-nothing-jon-snow-meme-from-game-of-thrones-goes-viral.html)', for those that know nothing
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I started this as a challenge to myself, to build a simple, small website with the images of only the regular 23 quad posters of JB movies and US 1-sheets.
I taught myself html and photoshop in much the same way - by picking a subject I was interested in, and then just working out how to create a website for it. Loads of fun, and an enjoyable challenge.
Good luck :)
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here in another thread... a picture of a sign you said you Photoshopped. Your collection you said will involve photoshopping so this sign is a sign of your signs you are doing
So, I post a picture of a real sign that was auctioned for 17k sterling pounds, and that I used to play with Photoshop, and then it is enough for you to know me?
You're nuts.
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I taught myself html and photoshop in much the same way - by picking a subject I was interested in, and then just working out how to create a website for it. Loads of fun, and an enjoyable challenge.
Good luck :)
Thank you! It is nice to know some of you can understand what I mean, what I am doing, how does it feel like.
As a big fan and user of VBA for mostly Excel, I've spending a lot of time trying to learn ExtendScript for Photoshop. It may not be too useful but it is really rewarding. Right now I am learning how to write and read custom metadata per layer in a psd file. Interesting stuff.
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Most of you, with some notable and rare exceptions, are too spoiled with your paper poster collection to understand and want to help. Spoiled and maybe afraid that your precious collection of thousands of posters will have its value diminished if a random guy creates a website showing 25-40 images of them.
You are certainly not enamoring your way to those that could assist you.
Are you a gen Y by any chance?
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gen Y
Gen envy..first I`ve seen that. ;)
Stew
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Thank you! It is nice to know some of you can understand what I mean, what I am doing, how does it feel like.
As a big fan and user of VBA for mostly Excel, I've spending a lot of time trying to learn ExtendScript for Photoshop. It may not be too useful but it is really rewarding. Right now I am learning how to write and read custom metadata per layer in a psd file. Interesting stuff.
Good luck, Andy, with however your collection comes together.
Keep on truckin'
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Thank you! It is nice to know some of you can understand what I mean, what I am doing, how does it feel like.
As a big fan and user of VBA for mostly Excel, I've spending a lot of time trying to learn ExtendScript for Photoshop. It may not be too useful but it is really rewarding. Right now I am learning how to write and read custom metadata per layer in a psd file. Interesting stuff.
I'm confused by the hostility you've received, but that's good stuff! My interest in design and development was piqued at a wee age. I continued self-learn throughout my teens, went to art school, picked up a few degrees and today I'm fortunate enough to be working as a designer. You never know where your interests will take you.
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Someone should start a thread about Bond collectors and bullying...
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Someone should start a thread about Bond collectors and bullying...
Agree.
I am really puzzled by this. I am one of those who likes to see good quality images of posters (rare or not). It helps to appreciate and learn about the hobby.
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Agree.
I am really puzzled by this. I am one of those who likes to see good quality images of posters (rare or not). It helps to appreciate and learn about the hobby.
+1.
Andy's quad collection is just another medium and format. He's hoping to share those hi rez images with others as he gathers them. Good for him. What does it matter that his quads aren't on paper? The bottom line is - they are still poster images. 8)
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You are certainly not enamoring your way to those that could assist you.
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You are certainly not one of those that could assist me.
I don't exactly know what you mean by "enamoring your way" (my English has limits) but if you want me to be a flatterer to win favors, please, don't hold your breath.
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You are certainly not one of those that could assist me.
I don't exactly know what you mean by "enamoring your way" (my English has limits) but if you want me to be a flatterer to win favors, please, don't hold your breath.
When you first came here, I tried to help. I wasn't exactly sure what you were trying to do, so my suggestions were not fully appropriate. But I tried.
You, on the other hand, came into a forum of POSTER COLLECTORS, but with a bit of an attitude. You have stated that the prices are too high, that we don't provide suitable images in high enough resolution, and that somehow we are both beneath you while at the same time we owe you something.
There is nothing wrong with your project. Go ahead and build your website. However, it appears that in order to do it, you might have to put some time and money into the game. What? You say somebody OWES it to you to provide web ready images so you don't have to do any work? Than what exactly is your contribution?
I don't own a Bond Quad, in that I don't own any quads. However, if I did, I might have pulled it out and shot an image after your first inquiry. Right now, there isn't a chance in hell.
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+1 Jay.
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I must admit I have forwarded some images to the chap, but I think I lost the way with the Octopussy Circus image (bearing in mind it isn't a quad or even a poster)
Hence my caravanners and campers analogy which, I admit, could have used a bit more work.
Apologies for the omitting of the accent over etre - mine is a UK keyboard and I hadn't (and still haven't) searched for the Alt key equivalent.
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When you first came here, I tried to help. I wasn't exactly sure what you were trying to do, so my suggestions were not fully appropriate. But I tried.
You, on the other hand, came into a forum of POSTER COLLECTORS, but with a bit of an attitude. You have stated that the prices are too high, that we don't provide suitable images in high enough resolution, and that somehow we are both beneath you while at the same time we owe you something.
There is nothing wrong with your project. Go ahead and build your website. However, it appears that in order to do it, you might have to put some time and money into the game. What? You say somebody OWES it to you to provide web ready images so you don't have to do any work? Than what exactly is your contribution?
I don't own a Bond Quad, in that I don't own any quads. However, if I did, I might have pulled it out and shot an image after your first inquiry. Right now, there isn't a chance in hell.
:o uhno jawdrop
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Ha Ha!
I was waiting for you to respond to that, Paul!
Simes, the UK keyboard can be a nightmare when typing a different language can't it!?
Although accents etc can be added with shortcuts; bit of a pain but works!
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Jay just say the word, I`ve got an X-men two teaser with your name all over it...
Stew
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When you first came here, I tried to help. I wasn't exactly sure what you were trying to do, so my suggestions were not fully appropriate. But I tried.
You, on the other hand, came into a forum of POSTER COLLECTORS, but with a bit of an attitude. You have stated that the prices are too high, that we don't provide suitable images in high enough resolution, and that somehow we are both beneath you while at the same time we owe you something.
There is nothing wrong with your project. Go ahead and build your website. However, it appears that in order to do it, you might have to put some time and money into the game. What? You say somebody OWES it to you to provide web ready images so you don't have to do any work? Than what exactly is your contribution?
I don't own a Bond Quad, in that I don't own any quads. However, if I did, I might have pulled it out and shot an image after your first inquiry. Right now, there isn't a chance in hell.
Whoa! Since you understood all wrong what I have said in previous posts, there is no reason for me to try and reply to your false accusations above.
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I must admit I have forwarded some images to the chap, but I think I lost the way with the Octopussy Circus image (bearing in mind it isn't a quad or even a poster)
Hence my caravanners and campers analogy which, I admit, could have used a bit more work.
Apologies for the omitting of the accent over etre - mine is a UK keyboard and I hadn't (and still haven't) searched for the Alt key equivalent.
That was too finicky on my part. Sorry about it, I should actually not have mentioned it.
Mine is a US keyboard, no easy way for accented letters also but since I write in two languages I configured it via shortcut to alternate between both layouts. And since I know by heart the differences, I can type on my own language despite some keys not matching the hard-coded symbols.
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Is andyvee really "richlee"?
Older forum tarts might remember him from years back.
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Mine is a US keyboard, no easy way for accented letters also but since I write in two languages I configured it via shortcut to alternate between both layouts. And since I know by heart the differences, I can type on my own language despite some keys not matching the hard-coded symbols.
Fair play. Understood.
I should make the point of looking for the accents as I also write to some French friends on occasion and I am aware I am mutilating your language with most of what I say - and that is irrespective of my grammar and prose deficiencies...
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Is andyvee really "richlee"?
Older forum tarts might remember him from years back.
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I have never heard of a richlee (sounds like some wealthy Asian guy...), I have never used such a nick anywhere in the internet and I had never before used this forum until I registered as andyvee.
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It's ok, carry on, when your collection needs linen backing I'm handy with Photoshop.
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It's ok, carry on, when your collection needs linen backing I'm handy with Photoshop.
:p
I'd say that's a "five star" post!
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It's ok, carry on, when your collection needs linen backing I'm handy with Photoshop.
:p
;D ;D
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It's ok, carry on, when your collection needs linen backing I'm handy with Photoshop.
:p
You see, that is one big advantage for "virtual collections": Photoshop for linen backing! And framing too. And endless possibilities...
Cheers.
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Maybe you can start a digital image authentication website. Here's the notorious "one moon" repro of the Dune advance 1S:
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-10/Dune%20%281984%20US%201S%20adv%29.jpeg)
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question for my Bond poster colleagues:
is it normal that the Brown Sky style for Quantum is printed on some kind of thicker photo paper? The other DS side seems normal but the brown side is sort of like photo thick finish. just checking ! Gracias.
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160922/200/quantum_of_solace_intl_brown_sky_style_advance_KM01099_T.jpg)
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Hi.
I think there must have been two printings for this poster, for both the November and November 14 variations.
I have heavier matt finish and normal standard gloss versions for both posters.
I also have a single sided, standard gloss, Undated variant.
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Many thanks Simes. I looked at EMP and they have both a DS Advance and an Int'l DS Advance Brown sky style. I guess this one would be it. I would have thought the description would explain the finish, rather than just call it "brown sky style" because the regular Advance DS 1 sheet looks the same (also brown sky) I wonder if it would sell for more if people knew this. Its a really nice and high quality finish. Any other posters have this?
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Yeah, I am not sure the colour is any different. Just the finish of the paper.
I don't think any of the other posters from QoS have a similar theme; this to include the two teasers and the blue International style.
There is also a mistake in that some think there was a version of poster with an alternately finished '007' - they think it is embossed. And that another version is without the embossing. In my wanderings, I have only ever seen a coated 007, on ALL the main release posters.
Hope this helps.
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question for my Bond poster colleagues:
is it normal that the Brown Sky style for Quantum is printed on some kind of thicker photo paper? The other DS side seems normal but the brown side is sort of like photo thick finish. just checking ! Gracias.
(http://www.emovieposter.com/images/moviestars/AA160922/200/quantum_of_solace_intl_brown_sky_style_advance_KM01099_T.jpg)
so my odd bond poster on thicker paper is up at EMP. Even Bruce is stumped!
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4892396
I'm wondering could this be a Canadian OS? So - not a special poster - but a theatrical release?
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Good luck in the sale.
Hope it is considered special enough to warrant peoples' punts.