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Common Poster Subjects => Restoration => Topic started by: sergmark on March 13, 2010, 07:25:33 PM
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I have a couple new old 80's posters (Bond) that are torn near the edges That probably would not be seen, should I use tape or not to save the frazzled pieces ?
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If you do decided to use tape, just make sure it is acid free (and that you tape it on the back!)
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Dario told me a while back to use Filmoplast P 90 (http://123frame.net/filmoplast.html (http://123frame.net/filmoplast.html)). I have, and it's been great.
Thierry
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I don't tape my posters.. I find that photography with my Canon DC-10 is better than using VHS to record them.. but that's just me...
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Rich, that was so cheeky it actually hurt a little inside...
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If you do decided to use tape, just make sure it is acid free (and that you tape it on the back!)
Thanks I did plan on using it on the back, just to try and keep it together. I didn't know you can by acid free tape.. Brand??
Thanks
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I don't tape my posters.. I find that photography with my Canon DC-10 is better than using VHS to record them.. but that's just me...
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You guys have a good sense of humor around here Great place.. qip qip
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Thanks I did plan on using it on the back, just to try and keep it together. I didn't know you can by acid free tape.. Brand??
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Mentioned in Theirry's post:
Dario told me a while back to use Filmoplast P 90 (http://123frame.net/filmoplast.html (http://123frame.net/filmoplast.html)). I have, and it's been great.
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The Filmoplast P90 is great. It can be hard to find depending on where you live. Check eBay for starters (that's where I found my roll)...
Another caution that many restorers bring up - if you ever plan on having the poster linenbacked, probably best NOT to use any tape on the poster as it may be hard to remove and will complicate the backing/restoration process.
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I have a roll of this tape but have been scared to use it even though it says acid free. The back says the pH is above 7.0 which would indeed be acid free. Anyone else ever use it? Can I trust it?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VYyLFRwKL._SS500_.jpg)
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I don't think I'd be using double sided Tape on posters Zorba. They are going to stick to other things!
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Well spotted, Paul!
If it's possible to leave the tears as they are, we prefer to do so, rather than using any sort of tape.
If the poster is literally falling to pieces, then some sort of restoration would be in order, but if it's just a few frays or splits around the edges, then we would leave well alone.
Best wishes,
Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
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I don't think I'd be using double sided Tape on posters Zorba. They are going to stick to other things!
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I thought maybe I just use the one side :P
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I thought maybe I just use the one side :P
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I have on the odd occasion used very small pieces (2/3mm) of 'crystal' tape on the reverse of posters to secure tiny tears that run the risk of getting worse if handled carelessly (and yes I have done it and learned the lesson!) but depending on how you store the poster have you considered buying a mylar sleeve to keep it in?
It is a cheaper alternative to having it linenbacked and has the advantage of keeping it in it's original state while also giving you the security of handling the poster without running the risk of making the torn piece worse.
Paul.
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I have a roll of this tape but have been scared to use it even though it says acid free. The back says the pH is above 7.0 which would indeed be acid free. Anyone else ever use it? Can I trust it?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VYyLFRwKL._SS500_.jpg)
Zorba, I have used this tape before with no issues to speak of. However, I did not use it for repair.
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Wonder if anyone is using a new kind of conservation tape that can recommend.
I have Filmoplast but was told off by a restorer. Wonder if there is a new one out there. ?
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Wonder if anyone is using a new kind of conservation tape that can recommend.
I have Filmoplast but was told off by a restorer. Wonder if there is a new one out there. ?
What did this restorer state was wrong with Filmoplast?
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He said "it blended" with the paper, so it made it more difficult to remove if restored. It also said that tape should always be avoided on big areas because the do leave marks. Ok for minor cuts I didn't want to argue, can't claim I know about restoration.
Though I have used it and as far as I can see my posters do look well. girly2.gif
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He said "it blended" with the paper, so it made it more difficult to remove if restored. It also said that tape should always be avoided on big areas because the do leave marks. Ok for minor cuts I didn't want to argue, can't claim I know about restoration.
Though I have used it and as far as I can see my posters do look well. girly2.gif
Yes that makes sense. But if not planning on having poster restored or linenbacked it's a great product.
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Yes. Agree. The problem is that i might want to restore it at some point. So might have to reconsider using it.
Yes I do want to preserve "my right" to change my mind. ;D
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Lineco Hayaku Japanese Hinging Tape.
This is another tape that I have read some about. Unlike filmoplast, the adhesive on this tape, upon wetting for removal, is not absorbed into the paper fibers, but instead absorbs the water, for a cleaner removal.
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/Lineco-Hayaku-Japanese-Hinging-Paper-Gummed--25mm-x-30m---1--x-100ft,9027,0.aspx
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Perfect!!! That would do the treat. Will give it a go. Thanks Jeff!! notworthy.gif
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Lineco Hayaku Japanese Hinging Tape.
This is another tape that I have read some about. Unlike filmoplast, the adhesive on this tape, upon wetting for removal, is not absorbed into the paper fibers, but instead absorbs the water, for a cleaner removal.
http://www.lionpic.co.uk/product/Lineco-Hayaku-Japanese-Hinging-Paper-Gummed--25mm-x-30m---1--x-100ft,9027,0.aspx
Thanks Jeff. I have not encountered this product before. Might have less tack and strength than Filmoplast (?) but if just wanting a temporary mend it looks like another good solution.
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I have Filmoplast but was told off by a restorer. Wonder if there is a new one out there. ?
I still use Filmoplast and the three restorers I have used in the past love it and did not even charge me to remove it.
T
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I used the Lineco one too for a giclee print but the Self-adhesive Tape one (not the paper). I haven't removed it yet so I can't tell !
http://www.dickblick.com/products/lineco-abaca-self-adhesive-hinging-tape/
"Abaca.sa Self-Adhesive Hinging Tape incorporates the strength and supple nature of Abaca paper (manila hemp), along with a very strong acrylic adhesive that is permanent and non-yellowing. Gummed tapes are risky to use with Giclee inkjet prints because of their water sensitivity. In these cases a self-adhesive tape is a much safer alternative. Abaca.sa is strong enough to hold large digital prints, and supple enough to adhere to the print without distorting. Abaca paper is acid-free, biodegradable, and comes from a self sustainable plant."
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Thanks. Another good recommendation for sure!
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What would you guys recommend for posters that already have sellotape on ? Just leave it on there ? I heard you can remove it with lighter fluid, Although I'd never try it :o
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What would you guys recommend for posters that already have sellotape on ? Just leave it on there ? I heard you can remove it with lighter fluid, Although I'd never try it :o
Here's a good thread, too, gargoyle67, that has some good sellotape removal discussion:
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,5546.0.html
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Great thanks Jeff I'll take a look :)
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Here's a little repair I did to my Highlander international poster, It had a tear on one of the corners from multiple staple fire.
The Tear>
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/Thetear_zpsbb1bae1d.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/Thetear_zpsbb1bae1d.jpg.html)
Cut a bit of Hinging tape to size and offer it up>
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/Sizingup_zps41f55bc1.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/Sizingup_zps41f55bc1.jpg.html)
Wet hinging tape and apply>
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/Fixing_zps20de467f.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/Fixing_zps20de467f.jpg.html)
Smooth out with a cloth and let dry>
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/attached_zps868eb04f.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/attached_zps868eb04f.jpg.html)
Not seamless but at least it won't fall off now :)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/Seemless_zpsad153f29.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/Seemless_zpsad153f29.jpg.html)
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Here's a little repair I did to my Highlander international poster, It had a tear on one of the corners from multiple staple fire.
Not seamless but at least it won't fall off now :)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/gargoyle67/Seemless_zpsad153f29.jpg) (http://s22.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle67/media/Seemless_zpsad153f29.jpg.html)
Looks good. cool1
And that's where a little water color pencil touch up would finish it off nicely, if you wanted to, to blend that torn edge.
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I've changed my mind. I have decided that tape is an important part of posters & postering collectoring.
this is my favorite to use. It sticks well
(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/w_17.png)
doesn't it look good now?
(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/duck-or-duct-tape.png)
but I forget.. am I supposed to put it on the back of the poster?
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I think your tape would also look good on a beat up 50 Shades of Gray poster, too. I think it would do the trick. ;D
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still using it. I like the brand you buy at Home Depot.. It has really really good stick