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Title: Universal Horror posters
Post by: guest4208 on November 05, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
The classic Universal Horror posters and lobby cards still seem to be achieving high prices but I wonder how long this will last. In recent years there have been a few collectors with deep pockets who have helped maintain prices but when their collections are complete or they just stop buying it is possible that prices may drop considerably. This has happened with other genres in the past. I would be interested in the opinions of people on this forum
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: jayn_j on November 05, 2012, 05:34:32 PM
Could happen.  I mentioned how Model T and Model A prices dropped big time in the late '80s when the people who remembered them got too old to work on them.

Less likely though since Universal Horror seems to have a widespread appeal.  Old collectors stop collecting, but this is the holy grail for new rich collectors.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 05, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
the Frankensteins and Draculas will always be collected
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on November 06, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
I've waited 35+ years for the bottom to fall out of the Uni-Horror market.... eyeroll

I'm still waiting, and I now know it won't happen in my lifetime...



Edit:-  A very wise Man once said the 4 things that will always be popular are Monsters, Aliens, Spaceships, and Sexy Women....  
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ddilts399 on November 06, 2012, 03:54:39 PM
I highly doubt there will be any significant price drop in my lifetime.

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Silhouette on November 06, 2012, 03:59:41 PM
Edit:-  A very wise Man once said the 4 things that will always be popular are Monsters, Aliens, Spaceships, and Sexy Women....  

Disney?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: theartofmovieposters on November 06, 2012, 04:15:45 PM
As I said before, for the iconic classics, I don't think prices will ever really shift significantly downwards.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on November 06, 2012, 04:19:01 PM
As I said before, for the iconic classics, I don't think prices will ever really shift significantly downwards.

As I said before too :)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: jayn_j on November 06, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
Disney?

Disney seems to be in a slump lately.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 06, 2012, 06:00:43 PM
Disney seems to be in a slump lately.

totally

the major posters that Heritage sold for big big bucks from 2000-2008 and again sold after 2008 took nosedives enough for the G-forces to kill you
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on November 06, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
Disney?


No,     Ted...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: guest4208 on November 06, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
the major posters that Heritage sold for big big bucks from 2000-2008 and again sold after 2008 took nosedives enough for the G-forces to kill you

This might also have been the case for Universal Horror posters. For anyone looking at Universal Horror as an investment, prices have fluctuated wildly over recent years. Bride of Frankenstein sold for $334,000.00 in 2007. Son of Frankenstein half sheet sold for 89,000.00 in 2007.

I'm sure that they will always be sought after but there are not too many collectors who can afford the astronomical prices that some of the posters have achieved in the past.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Silhouette on November 06, 2012, 06:39:55 PM
Disney seems to be in a slump lately.

Suits me fine...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ddilts399 on November 06, 2012, 08:25:18 PM
Disney's problem is they no longer rerelease every few years to keep the younger generation in the know. This has changed of late with the 3D push, but I doubt any of the classics come to theaters. In addition, they no longer have the shorts and key Disney character animation. THAT is why Disney has slumped. It is also why they have bought Marvel and Lucas out, their characters are dated and it is their own fault.

This in no way correlates to classic horror.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on November 07, 2012, 08:41:43 AM

No,     Ted...

Hahaha.
Can't go wrong with Monsters, Aliens, Spaceships, and Sexy Women.

Thanks, Paul.  thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
Found these cool, historical photos of The Fantasy Theater, in Rockville Center, Long Island, from June of 1935. A closeup of the front of the marquee reads, in part:

Starts Fri June 21 (or 28th?)   3 Days Only
Boris Karloff in Bride of Frankenstein.


And on the wide shot of the theater building, look at what billboard size poster was posted on the side. To the immediate left of the billboard, it looks like an extra vertical section is added, maybe with more info about the movie. It's hard to read but the top appears to say 3 Days Only  thumbup

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o8ypZpIfXmM/UKCVISgTcVI/AAAAAAAAI8g/VihKfbuGrxk/s1600/fantasy1935.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_bLPLL1QLi8/UKCVI25ikVI/AAAAAAAAI8o/9VRqN0lT7Pk/s1600/marquee.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W3BUHubWyZI/UKCVHXEnv9I/AAAAAAAAI8Y/uCmxqldo4yU/s1600/brideposter.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on November 13, 2012, 03:13:44 PM
Wonder if it is still there under the stucco finish...

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=The+Fantasy+Theater,+in+Rockville+Center,+Long+Island&ll=40.656579,-73.645269&spn=0.000575,0.001419&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=us&hq=The+Fantasy+Theater,&hnear=0x89c27b469361882f:0xd3a94406928fe9f,Rockville+Centre,+NY&cid=0,0,9243254249326452397&t=h&layer=c&cbll=40.656475,-73.645289&panoid=otGGxK6fCz8SFMs-I4ovIg&cbp=12,322.42,,0,-4.59&z=20
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2012, 03:23:09 PM
Never know.. it looks like the billboard was in a frame, doesnt it? Maybe it was taken down, refolded, and is on a dusty shelf in the basement of that theater, to this day, in some overlooked box.

How cool would that be?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on November 13, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
I love photos like that, Jeff.  Very neat!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2012, 04:01:12 PM
The Fantasy Theater.. then and now.. just a few face lifts since 1935. But at least it is still there.  8)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o8ypZpIfXmM/UKCVISgTcVI/AAAAAAAAI8g/VihKfbuGrxk/s1600/fantasy1935.jpg)(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8183152151_d5ed3926d9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ddilts399 on November 13, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
I'm going to look for crawl spaces, be back in a few days !
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2012, 04:06:15 PM
I'll bring the dust masks and flashlights.

I see that the Fantasy is now a multiplex.. I bet the ENTIRE building was redone, from top to bottom, when it was divided and reconfigured.  :'(


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on November 13, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Nice to see that 24 sheet in its original habitat - I am down for an excavation (I am an archaeologist after all!)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 22, 2012, 01:47:18 PM
Not a poster, but a photo.

A nice close up of Kharis, from Universal's THE MUMMY'S TOMB (1942):

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nz99vsVqEBw/UK2UcqCzBGI/AAAAAAAAMcw/eG5Zf0Piwm4/s1600/54626_4339457917794_505444411_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 22, 2012, 02:01:05 PM
DRACULA (Universal, 1931); Style C US OS

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8208359327_acbe2650a5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 01, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
Im liking the large (custom designed and made?) theater poster, for FRANKENSTEIN (1931). I bet the color of the light rays being emitted from the lantern were vivid!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IZ4LdlV7BvU/UC4EZ-xwyKI/AAAAAAAAIos/64Vm7iWbqlk/s1600/Frankenstein+crowd.jpg)

The design is very similar to that of the first release, Swedish OS:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WTKO-kG0E5w/UC7FGKmoKZI/AAAAAAAAIpI/0jq6-nQvDGI/s320/FSTswe.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Zorba on December 01, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
Very cool pic Jeff.

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 01, 2012, 09:53:37 PM
Thanks Jeff - love seeing stuff like this in natural habitat
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on December 02, 2012, 04:04:45 AM
Me too, great work Jeff... :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 02, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
Anybody have a pic from the 1931 Frankenstein pressbook showing all the US posters?

Could that be a three sheet with a "Now Playing" sticker stuck on it?

Look at the size of the poster(?) compared to the people.  That would be a ginormous custom painting.   But I don't see any folds, so maybe it is.

This is a pic from Emovie showing a "special" three sheet (note lack of credits and the slanted exclamation marks like the picture/poster in question):

(http://www.emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/AA110417/550/pb_frankenstein_R40s_a_LB01220_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 12:12:30 PM
I dunno what it is but I would love to have that frame!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 12:46:31 PM
Me too, Chris. The height of that custom poster (likely locally produced) looks to be about 84" tall. The perspective is a little off, since it is more in the foreground than the crowd or theater usher, but I bet it is close to that height.

What is curious, too, is that the image of the lantern carrying grave robber is the same as the Swedish OS. Aside from that one poster, I have not come across any US paper image that features this design. So perhaps some as yet unseen US style (OS, insert maybe?) featured this, too.

The digging continues.

As a side note. Also worth noting is that both the "special" 3 sheet teaser and half sheet used an image of Karloff in an earlier makeup that was not used in the final film (but was featured on the US OS and other publicity materials as well).

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
Not a poster, but concept art, done by the Universal's art dept, for FRANKENSTEIN (1931):

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bd6aDhR-Gs4/UB3AVZd6dgI/AAAAAAAAI80/UpANO43zuVk/s1600/170440_2956436329951_52264446_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on December 02, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
The Fantasy Theater.. then and now.. just a few face lifts since 1935. But at least it is still there.  8)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o8ypZpIfXmM/UKCVISgTcVI/AAAAAAAAI8g/VihKfbuGrxk/s1600/fantasy1935.jpg)(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8183152151_d5ed3926d9_z.jpg)

Awesome pics!
I lived in Baldwin, a few miles away from this theater and used to get an occasional poster from them back in the late 60s and early 70s.
Can't recall whether I ever got into their back room or not....some managers would let me....some wouldn't...
Great find, Jeff.  Thanks for the nostalgia.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 01:37:12 PM
I'd love either of the standees that are mounted on the marquee in this shot, or the banner above the doorway  thumbup:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5EO7TkKPxdo/TbbnbgnH6YI/AAAAAAAAEYA/vEmyay6j-2g/s1600/%2521Bt%25298h%2528wCWk%257E%2524%2528KGrHqUH-DkEvsNzohCPBL9YqM%252Cghg%257E%257E_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 02, 2012, 01:38:29 PM
Could that be a three sheet with a "Now Playing" sticker stuck on it?

No, there is no three-sheet that looks like that.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 02:25:04 PM
That pic is probably from the '38 double bill release Jeff?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
That pic is probably from the '38 double bill release Jeff?

I'm thinking you are correct, sir.  ;)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on December 02, 2012, 03:11:08 PM
Look to the left of the guy with the white hat. That looks like the (very desirable) art from the r47 Dracula 1-sheet, but the title is different. We're there other posters with that art? 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
And in looking at more details in that photo.. it looks like to the right of the FRANK standee's legs, is another poster/banner? for Frankenstein, with an image of Karloff, more in profile. I wonder what that is?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 03:58:02 PM
More "beautious" dressing for the theater box office!! This looks to be the same theater as the one above.

It's "Screamy!"  thumbup

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--ACpgGdoAJk/TYBTBaHjyeI/AAAAAAAAEKI/7V_bcy_mamI/s1600/tumblr_lghrqxvnUF1qz72v7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 04:06:20 PM
Spanish OS for ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN (Universal International 1948):

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_q9gTdYDKI3U/TAXJ81vXxHI/AAAAAAAACk0/1EWhUO0JAG8/s1600/2226661575_4eafc1d0b5_o.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q9gTdYDKI3U/Sy-ogi3zpFI/AAAAAAAABkc/yGM6ufjkD5k/s1600/417420.1020.A.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on December 02, 2012, 04:19:28 PM
Did we have a thread for marquees somewhere?  Or, was that NS4?
This ain't UNI Horror, but Marlene looks great, eh?

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/26/article-2106889-11ED3753000005DC-494_634x825.jpg)

They really knew how to put on a show back in the day.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
Italian; THE WOLF MAN


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GoQiF5iw53U/TnDKb-Q5-FI/AAAAAAAAFAc/fyV2w2tOZCk/s1600/%2521Bu%2529p%252Bv%2521EGk%257E%2524%2528KGrHqR%252C%2521iwEv1%252B0DtKOBMBtD-egMw%257E%257E_3.jpg)


I think this artwork and composition is fantastic!  clap clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on December 02, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
I'd love either of the standees that are mounted on the marquee in this shot, or the banner above the doorway  thumbup:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5EO7TkKPxdo/TbbnbgnH6YI/AAAAAAAAEYA/vEmyay6j-2g/s1600/%2521Bt%25298h%2528wCWk%257E%2524%2528KGrHqUH-DkEvsNzohCPBL9YqM%252Cghg%257E%257E_3.jpg)

Most definitely from the 38 release as the Monster up above is from Bride of....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 02, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
More "beautious" dressing for the theater box office!! This looks to be the same theater as the one above.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--ACpgGdoAJk/TYBTBaHjyeI/AAAAAAAAEKI/7V_bcy_mamI/s1600/tumblr_lghrqxvnUF1qz72v7o1_500.jpg)

Yes, this was for the 1951 re-release.
The standees are 3-sheet cutouts
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on December 02, 2012, 05:06:21 PM
I like the use of the original Franky teaser art on these.
1960s, maybe?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bwbd-ts47mM/TMmoyZn3VDI/AAAAAAAABXU/q4XZ4hAiExk/s1600/MOVIE_THEATER_MARQUEE1web.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
More original concept art, this from The Creature of The Black Lagoon creature designer, Milicent Patrick:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_6MP4P1eFYc/TyiyJnXoAxI/AAAAAAAAF8o/YterEHK4ljg/s1600/202191_1462254976351_1832769948_850019_2536670_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 02, 2012, 05:42:27 PM
I first thought the double-bill photos might have been for the 1947 release (they were definitely not for the 38 release), but in looking at them for a minute it became obvious they were from the 1951 release.
This photo-montage over the ticket booth uses an image from Son of Dracula, so definitely not from before 1943.

(http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/4.jpg)

But the tag line "Greatest Horror Show of All Time" was used for the 1951 campaign, the 1938 and 1947 campaigns used "The Horror Show of the Century".
Also, the words used around the box-office all match the ad words from 51 - especially "Screamy!", I've never seen that used for anything else.
And of course the cut-outs are taken from the 1951 3-sheets (though the Dracula is very similar to the 1947 3-sheet).

(http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/7.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Charlie on December 02, 2012, 07:49:43 PM
I like the use of the original Franky teaser art on these.
1960s, maybe?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bwbd-ts47mM/TMmoyZn3VDI/AAAAAAAABXU/q4XZ4hAiExk/s1600/MOVIE_THEATER_MARQUEE1web.jpg)


This looks photo shopped...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 07:56:27 PM
Good sleuthing work Sean!

Just wish they made marquees like that nowadays  :'(
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Matt on December 02, 2012, 08:02:38 PM
Yep, the letters "CO" are hanging in mid air.

Here's the original pic.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhnzl6YANU1qbrdf3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
Another marquee decorated nicely, for the opening of House of Frankenstein in 1944:  

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RI7WLAYL3Zo/UCfhHm8g4-I/AAAAAAAAiQA/6nkUZ43aIf4/s1600/house-of-frankenstein-marquee)


And one other, for The Ghost Of Frankenstein:

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llfhnwLX4h1qk1vbpo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 08:32:44 PM
The exterior and interior lobby of an Orpheum Theater, in Nebraska, 1935, ready to screen The Bride of Frankenstein:

(http://www.memories.ne.gov/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/dwhm&CISOPTR=122&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%22Theaters%22&REC=1&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0)

Check out the goodies on the right side of the image, especially  clap:

(http://www.memories.ne.gov/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/dwhm&CISOPTR=121&DMSCALE=100.00000&DMWIDTH=600&DMHEIGHT=600&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=%22Theaters%22&REC=2&DMTHUMB=0&DMROTATE=0)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
Box office of the Kentucky Theater in Lexington, 1931:

(http://www.kentuckytheater.com/images/dracula1931.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on December 02, 2012, 09:33:28 PM
Most definitely from the 38 release as the Monster up above is from Bride of....

Is that Drac poster I pointed out an earlier use of the r47 art?  I'm a newb at this stuff, but it was my understanding that only one r38 Dracula poster has turned up... the (IMO) stunning black and green one sheet from the Latrobe discovery. However that style only had Lugosi on it. This poster clearly shows him embracing Chandler...

Is there a press book from the '38 release?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
Guess they couldn't find another "F" in their letter box (Karlof)  :)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 02, 2012, 11:14:22 PM
Guess they couldn't find another "F" in their letter box (Karlof)  :)

Or maybe it was lifted, in the middle of the night, as a little memento. ;)

<OO


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 02, 2012, 11:50:31 PM
Probably that giant-float-Frankstein!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on December 03, 2012, 07:47:50 AM
John Reid's article on the Frankie daybill

http://www.ozefilm.com/highest-priced-australian-movie-poster/ (http://www.ozefilm.com/highest-priced-australian-movie-poster/)

(http://www.ozefilm.com/wp-content/uploads/FRANKENSTEINlongdaybill.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 03, 2012, 09:08:05 AM
Is that Drac poster I pointed out an earlier use of the r47 art?  I'm a newb at this stuff, but it was my understanding that only one r38 Dracula poster has turned up... the (IMO) stunning black and green one sheet from the Latrobe discovery. However that style only had Lugosi on it. This poster clearly shows him embracing Chandler...

That is the 1951 30" x 40" you see over on the left side.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on December 03, 2012, 01:42:33 PM
Love the pics Jeff!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
John Reid's article on the Frankie daybill

http://www.ozefilm.com/highest-priced-australian-movie-poster/ (http://www.ozefilm.com/highest-priced-australian-movie-poster/)

(http://www.ozefilm.com/wp-content/uploads/FRANKENSTEINlongdaybill.jpg)

That is really a GREAT daybill.
And a good article, too, John.   clap clap clap


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on December 03, 2012, 01:52:54 PM
I'd love either of the standees that are mounted on the marquee in this shot, or the banner above the doorway  thumbup:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5EO7TkKPxdo/TbbnbgnH6YI/AAAAAAAAEYA/vEmyay6j-2g/s1600/%2521Bt%25298h%2528wCWk%257E%2524%2528KGrHqUH-DkEvsNzohCPBL9YqM%252Cghg%257E%257E_3.jpg)

I thought we decided that this photo was from the '38 release? The poster I'm talking about is on the left between the guy in the trench coat and the guy in the white hat. If this is actually from the '51 re-release, do you have a pic of the 30x40? Thanks Sean.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 02:39:59 PM
Looks to be in the vein of this style (no pun intended)  8)

The Dracula title in the photo is different, tho. Turned downward.

(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j344/empirehorrorlist/Dracula1931.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on December 03, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
Beat me to the punch, Jeff.  Could the left hand display be a photo blowup/montage from the theater's art dept., if they had one?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on December 03, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Sean, I don't think the '47 and '51 three sheets are similar.  I can't find the '47 pb image but it has a large head of Lugosi ala the lobby card border art, although in color instead of glorious duo tone.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/Photos%20for%20CHFB/Drac474.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on December 03, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
Looks to be in the vein of this style (no pun intended)  8)

The Dracula title in the photo is different, tho. Turned downward.

(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j344/empirehorrorlist/Dracula1931.jpg)

Ooooo... is that the r51 30x40?  That is awesome. 

That said, both it and the r47 material have a similar u-shaped title, while the one in the photo clearly is in an upside-down u-shape.  Could it be an even bigger poster?   The more I think about, those people walking are considerably closer to the camera than the poster.  Maybe a 40x60 or a 3-sheet?

 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 05:40:20 PM
For other reference, only (still trying to locate that poster in the photo), here are the R51 half sheet, OS and insert:

(http://movieart.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/full.dracula%20R51%201:2%2016354.jpg)

(http://images.ha.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F6%2F3%2F0%2F2630509%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)   (http://www.morbidmonster.com/scart/images/Dracula1951IL.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 06:00:03 PM
The US 1sh from the 1938 re-release:

(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/03/dracula-lobby-card-19381.jpg?802b89)  (http://www.antiquetrader.com/wp-content/uploads/Dracula-green-and-black.jpg)

US OS from the 1947 re-release:

(http://i2.listal.com/image/36149/500full.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 06:33:45 PM
The front of the Regina Theater, in Los Angeles, in August of 1938. Check out the two 3sh on the left  :o :

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1.jpg?w=529&h=384)

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1.jpg)

(http://www.antiquetrader.com/wp-content/uploads/Frankenstein-3-sheet.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
A 1938 "double bill" pressbook:

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/384041_347229041955344_225280764150173_1399806_393265484_n1.jpg?w=450&h=584)

And from the Nov 5, 1938 editon of the Meriden Record, an ad showing the Dracula title in the upside down U style:

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/meriden-record-november-2-1938-2.png?w=450)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
And would the large photo posters here near street level be considered a type of vertical banner? They look incredible.

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/4.jpg?w=450&h=297)

(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/4.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 03, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
Sean, I don't think the '47 and '51 three sheets are similar.  I can't find the '47 pb image but it has a large head of Lugosi ala the lobby card border art, although in color instead of glorious duo tone.

I had thought I remembered it being a tall full figure image of Lugosi (but with no woman), but you are probably right Lynn,
It has been forever since I actually saw McLaughlin's 3-sheet in person (which no one seems to be able to find after his passing) and my computer that had all the pressbooks scanned in it crashed earlier this year.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 03, 2012, 11:49:04 PM
AND there are two more of the '38 3 sheets on the right!  Quick who's got the time machine fired up?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 03, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
The cover for the 1947 re-release pressbook for DRACULA:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8201/8242683359_199424d564.jpg)

And the 3sh from the 1951 pressbook:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8243752796_2f91fcce60_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2012, 12:33:06 AM
More poster goodness, for Bride of Frank. The large Frank head on the marquee is  thumbup:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cMdbfkl3Rz4/S9FjIMHJICI/AAAAAAAAGaM/io_CIqHo4gQ/s800/strand.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 04, 2012, 12:35:07 AM
More amazing 3 sheets  :'(
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on December 04, 2012, 02:03:20 AM
(http://beladraculalugosi.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1.jpg)

That title style seems to match.

I think if this thread has demonstrated anything, it's how many unknown styles there are yet to turn up!  Great detective work Erik!  Mind if I ask where you are finding this stuff?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2012, 02:24:21 AM
Hey Matt.

The style of lettering on that R38 3sh is similar being the upside down U, but on the piece you pointed out initially, it looks like the lettering is against a black background (similar to the R51 material) but maybe it is a bat with wings pointed downward, rather than up? Or, maybe, as you suggested, the title section was created locally, by the theater itself, and put below the image.

I have to do research for work online, at various times, so I have found theses images online from multiple sources.

Jeff

And here's one other shot/angle of the same theater box office that got this part of the discussion going:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpFwFTEJH9A/SNQbWp_z9XI/AAAAAAAACos/EXovFd9j7HE/s400/aadrac9.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IpFwFTEJH9A/SNQbWp_z9XI/AAAAAAAACos/EXovFd9j7HE/s1600/aadrac9.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on December 04, 2012, 06:23:45 AM
I had thought I remembered it being a tall full figure image of Lugosi (but with no woman), but you are probably right Lynn,
It has been forever since I actually saw McLaughlin's 3-sheet in person (which no one seems to be able to find after his passing) and my computer that had all the pressbooks scanned in it crashed earlier this year.


It's been many, many moons since I saw even a picture of the '47 3sht in Malcom Willits Collector's Showcase auction catalog. Lost all those catalogs thanks to the Government Flood and Katrina.  Computer crash, oh the horror, the horror. I can certainly identify with that.  I lost hundreds of high res scans of all my lobby cards due to a hard drive death  :'(
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on December 04, 2012, 06:25:01 AM
And all these photos are fantalicious!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on December 04, 2012, 07:38:13 AM
Great pics, Jeff.
This has quickly become my favorite thread.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on December 04, 2012, 11:29:09 AM
Agreed, these are quite the ticket Jeff, more please, we are greedy for these images... ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2012, 02:30:15 PM
And just so THE MUMMY isnt left out in the cold, here is the Rivoli Theater, decked out for the 1932 release. This is just fantastic, IMO, with yet another 3sh front and center. And oh to have one of those large head cutouts, too!  clap clap:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llfhge30B11qk1vbpo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2012, 03:28:30 PM
Bride of Frankenstein (1935), Regent Theater, Sydney, Australia:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmeokmW1mA1qk1vbpo1_1280.jpg)


White Zombie (1932). While not a Universal production, it was shot at Universal, using rented props and sets from such films as Frankenstein, Dracula and 1923's The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m20eml7YB61qlz1v3o1_500.jpg)


Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz6467BdBf1qemxfbo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 04, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
Awesome on both counts Jeff!  I was going to ask for some Mummy material and then you did that while adding Bride and White Zombie to the mix...

Shame there are no Bride daybills or other Aussie paper to be seen in the photos  :(
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 04, 2012, 04:18:05 PM
Chris, what is the poster above and behind the 2 women on the left, do you think? It looks rather long, and I see part of Karloff's (and Clives') names on it.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 04, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Chris, what is the poster above and behind the 2 women on the left, do you think? It looks rather long, and I see part of Karloff's name on it.

It's hard to say Jeff - there is so much writing on it I would think it's just a theatre created sign (but specially made for Bride) and not an Aussie poster. 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ddilts399 on December 04, 2012, 06:27:31 PM
There has to be more of this paper out there in the wild somewhere. These pictures make me want to go on the hunt.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Undead on December 05, 2012, 11:56:35 AM
And just so THE MUMMY isnt left out in the cold, here is the Rivoli Theater, decked out for the 1932 release. This is just fantastic, IMO, with yet another 3sh front and center. And oh to have one of those large head cutouts, too!  clap clap:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llfhge30B11qk1vbpo1_500.jpg)

If you look to the right side of the image they have the other three sheet on display as well. Two of my favorite posters on one vintage shot!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on December 05, 2012, 12:33:56 PM
Yep - noticed that 2nd three sheet as well.  Amazing stuff...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Undead on December 05, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
Does anyone know if any of the other mummy three sheets are around? I know the one in the shot on the left exists, there is a pretty nice shot of it in Horror Business, but do any of the one on the right exist? Same for the Mummy press book from 1932, can't remember seeing one and am curious as to the contents.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 05, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
Does anyone have an image of The Mummy 3sh from Horror Business? At some point, I found that a copy of the 1932 pressbook was sold on ebay. :o

There also appears to be another 3sh on that same pillar, around to the right from the one facing front, in the center of the photo. Looks like stills might be attached to it, too.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 06, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkfv9dc6HZ1qbrdf3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on December 06, 2012, 12:54:48 AM
Publicity item for the Spanish version of Dracula (1931):


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kKjrNsGlZbE/TKgHbYWunfI/AAAAAAAAAvg/qQhJfxR3p5E/s1600/dracula_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on December 06, 2012, 09:25:04 AM
I believe the DRACULA herald is from Argentina.  Max Glücksmann also did FRANKENSTEIN

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/Photos%20for%20CHFB/frankherald2_0001.jpg)

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/Photos%20for%20CHFB/frankherald1.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Undead on December 06, 2012, 11:47:24 AM
Does anyone have an image of The Mummy 3sh from Horror Business?

This is from the book "Too Much Horror Business the Kurt Hammett Collection". I did not know about the book until reading about it in another thread on this site, hope you guys get commission, and if you are a horror fan as I am I recommend picking a copy of it up. Kurts collection is quite impressive. Amazon has it here http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810996596/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1354812301&sr=8-1&keywords=too+much+horror+business+the+kirk+hammett+collection&condition=new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810996596/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1354812301&sr=8-1&keywords=too+much+horror+business+the+kirk+hammett+collection&condition=new)

(http://undead.net/images/the_mummy_3sh.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 17, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
Here's an interesting foreign poster for the 1925 version of Phantom of the Opera. I know nothing about it, but the fact that it lacks any credit info (aside from the old Universal logo), is rather intriguing. The phantom character, too, mimics Chaney, but is not him. Perhaps this is a much newer poster  for a later release or local screening of the film?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fqImtsfaabk/UMqkRHlrjII/AAAAAAAANSI/J7KOFJ_NtZE/s1600/12250_4071550382377_685446751_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 17, 2013, 04:46:25 PM
Could it be one of the Spanish mini heralds that are so prevalent?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 17, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
Chris, it may be.

The size wasn't noted, so it certainly could be the much smaller herald format. Trying to dig and find a little more info.  ;)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Louie D. on January 18, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
Here's an interesting foreign poster for the 1925 version of Phantom of the Opera. I know nothing about it, but the fact that it lacks any credit info (aside from the old Universal logo), is rather intriguing. The phantom character, too, mimics Chaney, but is not him. Perhaps this is a much newer poster  for a later release or local screening of the film?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fqImtsfaabk/UMqkRHlrjII/AAAAAAAANSI/J7KOFJ_NtZE/s1600/12250_4071550382377_685446751_n.jpg)

Uh.................really??  There's no way this piece of shit would be any original foreign poster for "The Phantom of the Opera"
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2013, 12:51:38 AM
Uh.................really??  There's no way this piece of shit would be any original foreign poster for "The Phantom of the Opera"

That is why it was suggested in the first post that this could be something a lot more recent, for a local screening, as well.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2013, 01:44:08 AM
Japanese B2 for Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1950s RR):

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8466/8078966964_0fac85da3d_z.jpg)


Spanish OS for Universal's House of Dracula (1945):

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8463/8078912337_e2b5156a75_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: oldposterho on January 18, 2013, 09:48:55 AM
The "Phantom of the Opera" is probably a flyer or even a print ad for the first screenings in Spain.  The "Super Joya Universal" was used for the 'coming soon' newspaper ads in late '25, and it looks like the film was actually released in January of '26.  Other ads are similar and much more revealing of the Phantom, unlike the US material.  Couldn't find this exact image though.

--Peter
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on January 18, 2013, 01:21:27 PM
That Japanese Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein is NOT a re-release
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2013, 01:23:22 PM
Thanks for the info, Peter. Considering, too, that contractually, Chaney's image could not be shown in any publicity material, it makes perfect sense that the figure on this flyer or ad, with its skeletal face, bears slight resemblance to him. The face on the flyer actually may have been influenced by Andre Castaigne's original watercolor illustrations from the 1910 book publication (as was Chaney's makeup):

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/HDKingsbury/CastaigneRedDeathcropped.jpg)  (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fqImtsfaabk/UMqkRHlrjII/AAAAAAAANSI/J7KOFJ_NtZE/s1600/12250_4071550382377_685446751_n.jpg)

When i first saw the flyer image, its composition reminded me, in feel, of this style of the US 6sh, with the phantom cowering over the opera house:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/THE-PHANTOM-OF-THE-OPERA-LOBBY-CARD-POSTER-6-SHEET-IMAGE-1925-LON-CHANEY-/00/s/NjE2WDc4NA==/$(KGrHqJHJBIE+Lcco-42BP0Mpc8iWQ~~60_58.JPG)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2013, 01:25:11 PM
That Japanese Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein is NOT a re-release

Thanks, Sean.  ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 18, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
Actual color 16mm film (Karloff home movies), shot of Karloff on set, during the filming of SON OF FRANKENSTEIN. The crew working outside the widow is an added, behind the scenes touch:


http://www.youtube.com/v/g3f-zm2jyFo
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 18, 2013, 07:02:07 PM
When I spoke to Sara about this several years back, she said there was about four and a half minuets of this footage in total. Plus a wealth of other footage which was mainly private home movies.
    I asked her if there was any chance of releasing, even just the rest of the "Son of" Colour footage. She said No, not in her life time, but after that who knows....  Such a shame for us fans of Uncle Boris..
 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 18, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
What was Universal's reasoning behind the Tom Selleck pelt again?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 18, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
Cool Karloff clip, Jeff.  thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 19, 2013, 04:25:18 AM
What was Universal's reasoning behind the Tom Selleck pelt again?

Going from memory Chris, Rowland V Lee thought it would be more likely they would dress up warm with "Hunting" most nights....

Something to check for next time ...
If you watch the beginning of Ghost of Frankenstein, when Ygor gets the Monster out of the Sulphur pit he has the same jacket on, but the boiling Sulphur had burned all the hair off it. He then turns up at Vasaria with a new Monster suit, and had a wash and brush up...  I'd love to have seen that scene where The Monster and Ygor go shopping, and get cleaned up...???
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 19, 2013, 11:08:06 AM
Great observation Paul!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 19, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
Not really Chris, I've just seen them many, many times. I watch one or two a week... eyeroll  I know anorak....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 19, 2013, 09:21:45 PM
Not really Chris, I've just seen them many, many times. I watch one or two a week... eyeroll  I know anorak....

Fine I take it back.  Let me know when you have something worthwhile to contribute ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 20, 2013, 02:33:26 AM
O.K.   waiting1
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 20, 2013, 09:23:45 PM


Window card for The Cat and the Canary (1927):

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll3g2jmKi41qk1vbpo1_1280.jpg)



Bride:


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkyptyWbnZ1qk1vbpo1_1280.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 20, 2013, 09:36:47 PM

Check out this MUMMY cut out display, in England, mounted on the marquee of the Capitol Theatre. Karloff's name (Karloff The Uncanny) can just be made out above the film's title:

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/310/2032/1600/boris11.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 20, 2013, 11:56:13 PM
That's awesome Jeff!  Love these old Mummy displays
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 21, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
Jeff's posts give me wood.
 thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 21, 2013, 01:42:04 AM
Fantastic,   clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 22, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
A Spanish herald or flyer, for Universal's Spanish version of Dracula:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9f53cf5703edfee0f109dd7c03e27edc/tumblr_mgi59a8pYA1qz72v7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 23, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
That's a herald Jeff, and speaking of Villarias...

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC09016.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 23, 2013, 12:27:57 PM
Well la de da Mr. Fancy Pants  :P
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 23, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
Well la de da Mr. Fancy Pants  :P

Sadly is not mine, so I could never use that Dracula to brag. These ones however...  ;)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC08080.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC05500.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/MadGhoul.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/Frankenstein.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 23, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
Yessir brag all you want with those!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 23, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
I never get tired of seeing Matias' Argentine UNIs.  They are beautiful.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 23, 2013, 11:47:46 PM
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 24, 2013, 01:01:49 PM
 Lets hear it for Matias,  clap happy1
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 01:08:02 PM
Hear Hear!!

 woohoo woohoo
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 02:08:00 PM
Sadly is not mine, so I could never use that Dracula to brag. These ones however...  ;)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/Frankenstein.jpg)

Matias, beautiful, all, that's for sure.

When is this FRANKENSTEIN poster from? The 1960s?

Looks great!  clap

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 24, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
Matias, beautiful, all, that's for sure.

When is this FRANKENSTEIN poster from? The 1960s?

Looks great!  clap



Not sure if from the 60s or the 70s. Surely not older than that. The identical US version is from the 60s

(http://www.emovieposter.com//images/moviestars/20080708/550/frankenstein_R60s_JA01099_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on January 24, 2013, 05:01:18 PM
chances are that the Argentine copy shown is from the early 70s due to the Universal logo
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 24, 2013, 05:11:39 PM
(http://media.mercola.com/imageserver/public/2010/December/index-finger-12.21.jpg)

What he said
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 08:53:39 PM
Hey all you Uni horror lovers -- here is a 24 sheet for Creature From the Black Lagoon.

This image is from the pressbook:


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8413150916_caf6a92de8_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Undead on January 24, 2013, 11:37:09 PM
Hey all you Uni horror lovers -- here is a 24 sheet for Creature From the Black Lagoon.

This image is from the pressbook:

There is also a second 24 sheet version of this one with the added tagline for 3D being the only real difference.

(http://undead.net/images/cbl24sht3d.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 24, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
A 24sh for Ghost of Frankenstein, also from the pressbook. The colors on this must have been incredible. No photos on this, either:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8087/8413458360_72b1776b80_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on January 25, 2013, 09:25:09 AM
Someone (I'm looking at you Jeff) should start a 24-sheet thread! 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 25, 2013, 01:10:32 PM
Someone (I'm looking at you Jeff) should start a 24-sheet thread! 

Matt,

I was only looking for more of the elusive UNI horror material, especially images of posters, WC, standees etc that may not exist (or have been rediscovered) on their own, at this point in time. PB images are the next best thing to being there.  :)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 25, 2013, 04:39:22 PM
Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man, 24sh:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8414229205_87ba69d006_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on January 26, 2013, 12:46:40 PM
Jeff, you may have missed the pic I posted from the U.S. press-book for the Son of Frankenstein poster we were discussing.
I'll put it in here...

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0577-2_zps088ead1c.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 26, 2013, 12:49:35 PM
Jeff, you may have missed the pic I posted from the U.S. press-book for the Son of Frankenstein poster we were discussing.
I'll put it in here...

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/frankenstein31_photos/PICT0577-2_zps088ead1c.jpg)

Great find, Paul!  bed1

And yes, you were right, the imagery /design/layout is identical to the UK version (aside from subtle artistic differences, that is).



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 26, 2013, 01:49:12 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t2NLf0Xf0i4/TGHQbPWgXWI/AAAAAAAAIl8/3D-cEaRmEhI/s1600/1939+-+La+sombra+de+Frankenstein+-+Son+of+Frankenstein+-+tt0031951.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on January 26, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
Good one Ted!

I don't remember if I have posted this before. Also spanish, it's a "pictorical suplement", like a big program.

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/2011-Auction/Manwholaughs1.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/2011-Auction/Manwholaughs2.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/2011-Auction/Manwholaughs9a.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/2011-Auction/Manwholaughs5.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/2011-Auction/Manwholaughs7.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 26, 2013, 05:13:17 PM
Hahahahaha....great herald....Hahahaha....Hahahaha....Matiaas... Hahahaha

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lexg4vwXPg1qa58bio1_500.gif) thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 26, 2013, 05:31:36 PM
Matias, that's a great looking herald for a very cool film. A favorite of mine, too!   sm1






Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 26, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
More beautiful ephemera lads!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on January 27, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
What is this Frankenstein poster?  Emovie is selling a book with this image (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2844103):

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-01/book_classic_scifi_movie_posters_c_NZ07559_L.jpeg)

Update:

Ok, found it. This is a German post-war poster:

http://www.atthemovies.co.uk/movie-posters/4918.html
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Louie D. on January 27, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
Hahahahaha....great herald....Hahahaha....Hahahaha....Matiaas... Hahahaha

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lexg4vwXPg1qa58bio1_500.gif) thumbup

Saw it in 35mm about 6 years ago in San Fran, tremendous movie that escaped Universal's melt down in the 40's.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 27, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
What is this Frankenstein poster?  Emovie is selling a book with this image (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=2844103):

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-01/book_classic_scifi_movie_posters_c_NZ07559_L.jpeg)

Update:

Ok, found it. This is a German post-war poster:

http://www.atthemovies.co.uk/movie-posters/4918.html

I believe this is the 1956 German re-release with art by Bruno Rehak.
Peckinpah can probably confirm (or correct) this.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 27, 2013, 01:41:32 PM
A Belgian for Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein. It lacks the typical Imprime En Belgique; on the bottom border, center, it reads: Creation Publicitaire U.I. (U.I. = Universal International).

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ABBOTT-COSTELLO-Meets-Contre-FRANKENSTEIN-Original-Belgium-Move-Poster-/00/s/ODAwWDc2OA==/$(KGrHqFHJCcFBn99nf5wBQm(VpYCVQ~~60_3.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ABBOTT-COSTELLO-Meets-Contre-FRANKENSTEIN-Original-Belgium-Move-Poster-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqJHJE0FB5Z6yOR8BQm(F0HcG!~~60_57.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABBOTT-COSTELLO-Meets-Contre-FRANKENSTEIN-Original-Belgium-Move-Poster-/390530977953?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5aed75d0a1
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 27, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
Such a great image from Bride of Frank. It's too bad that this was never redone by S2. That would have been outstanding!

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Bride1935OS_zps2a7a716e.jpg?t=1359314005)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on January 27, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
More FRANKENSTEIN goodness- Spanish OS:


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Frank-SP_zpsdfcd3352.jpg)




Son Of Frankenstein (Uni-1939); US OS


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SOF_zpsfab176a8.jpg)


And interesting use of art embellished photographs on this Spanish herald for the first release of The Bride of Frankenstein:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BOF-SPHerald_zpsda67dad4.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on January 27, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
Laemmle and Universal did some sci-fi, too....

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nzk2n8VQJLA/TnuSXUFeEII/AAAAAAAASzQ/NOFA99ftr3U/s1600/174205_1020_A.jpg)  whip
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 10:47:18 PM

The Mummy (Universal, 1932)

I located this image but there was not a description of its size. Would this be the title lobby card? Or a half sheet?

(http://imagecache5d.allposters.com/watermarker/40-4025-AVOWF00Z.jpg?ch=671&cw=894)





Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on February 05, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
More FRANKENSTEIN goodness- Spanish OS:


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Frank-SP_zpsdfcd3352.jpg)



That's argentinean Jeff. I hope I can get my hands on one in the future...

I believe the spanish is this one, and used the same art as some US trade ad

(http://emovieposter.com//images/books/hp3/550/304.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 11:04:28 PM
Thanks, Matias   wynk

I managed to track down a page from the original The Mummy pressbook of 1932. Here is a b/w image of the WC:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8449776642_df5433d6b4_z.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 11:13:26 PM
That's argentinean Jeff. I hope I can get my hands on one in the future...

I believe the spanish is this one, and used the same art as some US trade ad

(http://emovieposter.com//images/books/hp3/550/304.jpg)

Interesting, too, Matias, that director James Whale's name is no where to be found on this Spanish OS.  :-\



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 05, 2013, 11:14:19 PM
Hmmm pretty sure I've seen the window card in full colour before but I just can't remember where (it definitely was not in my poster piles ;) )
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 05, 2013, 11:30:38 PM
Me want this!!  bed1

Pre war Belgian, The Mummy

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=5998;image)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 05, 2013, 11:53:04 PM
Yeah I would take that too Jeff :)  A very nice consolation vs. the US one sheet
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 02:58:40 AM

Tower of London (Universal, 1939); French 1P


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TOWER-OF-LONDON-BORIS-KARLOFF-ROWLAND-V-1939-LEFEVRE-MOVIE-POSTER-323-/00/s/NzUzWDU2Nw==/$T2eC16hHJHoE9n3KhWGtBQywLwGDtw~~60_3.JPG)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Posteroid on February 06, 2013, 04:39:34 AM
Japanese ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/ganzheit2/ACMF.jpg)

Armin
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on February 06, 2013, 06:39:52 AM
Japanese ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b174/ganzheit2/ACMF.jpg)

I like it, the art and colors

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on February 06, 2013, 02:29:46 PM
Jeff, I'm starting to think Benito made a deal with the devil.  He has everything we want!!!   :'(
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on February 06, 2013, 06:09:13 PM
Hmmm pretty sure I've seen the window card in full colour before but I just can't remember where (it definitely was not in my poster piles ;) )

It was in Gresham's book.  There are a couple of them known to exist.
The other image shown is from a TC, though one of the style half sheets uses the same image I am not aware of any existing.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on February 06, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
Frankenstein Meets The Wolf Man (Realart, 1949 RR); US LC:

To me, this is easily the best Realart LC ever made and easily one of the top 5 Universal scene cards period.
It's the only card from the entire Universal series that pictures two monsters on it (there are a few card with Karloff/Lugosi, but not both as monsters, and there is a card with Strange/Chaney, but Chaney is not in make-up).

And not that anyone asked, but my other top 5 Universal scene cards would include:
Black Cat - Boris and Bela facing off in the map room
Bride of Frankenstein - The monster and the bride together
Invisible Man - Reins confronting Stuart
Dracula - Lugosi about to put the bite to Chandler
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 06:50:31 PM


The Old Dark House (Universal, 1932); US LC:

(http://api.ning.com/files/jVERTgXG4bsRXgBnZZQQXTRIaBz7Fd6PfN1v-YhvatDShgcZdaIBZMHu1B-FXHuqOAHvdsnngdPM6mQZa5RLEIUfqMLam1PQ/boris.jpg?width=750)



The Black Cat (Universal, 1934); US Halfsheet:

(http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/4831/7080211_1.jpg?v=8C98E01E862DCD0)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 06, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
The Old Dark House lobby is especially great because Karloff is a mute in the film.  Either a nice accident or someone was thinking...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
The Title LC for the 1949 Realart RR of Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man.

It used the same art and design as their halfsheet, seen above. The photo of the 2 monsters, locked in battle, in the lower left, is such an iconic image!  clap clap clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/fmw_zps9c0f0a00.jpg)



And a Spanish herald, for the 1943 release of Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man, using another photo of the dueling monsters:

(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B7%2F3%2F7%2F3%2F7373901%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on February 08, 2013, 05:46:48 PM
Some more of the oddball stuff.

cover of the French photoplay.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/New%20Acquisitions/FrenchFrankBook.jpg)

US paperback novelization.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/APF%20Halloween%20Poster%20Show/Cat-and-Canary-cover.jpg)

Argentine (?) Invisible Dude

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/New%20Posters/Invisible-Man-front.jpg)

Invisible Ray Real Art 3 sht

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/new%20uploads/InvisibleRayThe3S.jpg)

And some lowley 50s title cards

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/Poster%20hanging/Triptychsinglesmall.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 08, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
I need me a copy of that there Frankenstein book
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Some more of the oddball stuff.

cover of the French photoplay.

(http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx26/lynaron1/New%20Acquisitions/FrenchFrankBook.jpg)


Great Frankenstein photoplay book, Lynn. Thanks for sharing such a fantastic and outstanding looking book!   clap clap



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 08, 2013, 07:32:31 PM
Dig the UNI goodies, Lyn.  thumbup

Hey, Rich...do you have one of these?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7c8ee9575d1f36fd4e65023ce91d3262/tumblr_mgw0yuUCtN1qf83cro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 08, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
Dig the UNI goodies, Lyn.  thumbup

Hey, Rich...do you have one of these?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7c8ee9575d1f36fd4e65023ce91d3262/tumblr_mgw0yuUCtN1qf83cro1_500.jpg)

yes indeedie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1aaf3688e080efc8574159e5da6bdc15/tumblr_mgocwuf1As1qzr8nao1_500.jpg)

Nice one, Ted!

 cheers

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on February 09, 2013, 05:36:28 PM
Larger pic of the 1938rr coming up at HA auction: (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7072&lotIdNo=5017#Photo)

The studio decided to get a bit creative with their first reissue of Dracula, and issued the film with green tinting on some of the prints. To mirror the green tinted prints, the studio issued a one sheet that used the same dark greens and black, giving the headshot of Lugosi a very menacing pose. The image of Lugosi is as classic as it gets- and is incredibly similar to the original style A one sheet.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-02/Dracula%20%281938rr%20US%201S%29%20%28green%20tint%20to%20match%20film%29.jpeg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 09, 2013, 05:51:24 PM
This same copy (Provenance; The Latrobe Collection, The Nicolas Cage Collection) was last sold, in November of 2008, at HA's Sig auction. It realized $33,460.00, inc. the BP.

Flip time.  ;)

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B4%2F2%2F3%2F3%2F4233856%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 12, 2013, 12:17:32 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5114Dr4o1qiko2ho1_1280.jpg)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5114Dr4o1qiko2ho2_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: guest4208 on February 12, 2013, 11:40:10 PM
(http://www.johnreid.helpinghost.com/DRACULATRADEAD1.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on February 15, 2013, 03:59:56 PM
OOOOH!  Nifty!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 15, 2013, 04:14:05 PM
More DRACULA goodness...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/828d3f895ae9dd25b815ec52bece4f9f/tumblr_mhbxroMQP01s2pocso1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8d1ea6783f9f9116a0f72fe1c24fdf78/tumblr_mhbxroMQP01s2pocso2_r1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on February 15, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
Larger pic of the 1938rr coming up at HA auction: (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7072&lotIdNo=5017#Photo)

The studio decided to get a bit creative with their first reissue of Dracula, and issued the film with green tinting on some of the prints. To mirror the green tinted prints, the studio issued a one sheet that used the same dark greens and black, giving the headshot of Lugosi a very menacing pose. The image of Lugosi is as classic as it gets- and is incredibly similar to the original style A one sheet.

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-02/Dracula%20%281938rr%20US%201S%29%20%28green%20tint%20to%20match%20film%29.jpeg)


And it looks like they air-brushed it with a whole new shade of green! eyeroll
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 15, 2013, 05:03:51 PM
Bela's grown more green with envy since 2008.  ;D

(http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B4%2F2%2F3%2F3%2F4233856%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)  (http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B9%2F5%2F2%2F2%2F9522758%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 15, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
There's that non-existent HA colour boosting at work ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on February 15, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 15, 2013, 07:49:33 PM
More DRACULA goodness...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/828d3f895ae9dd25b815ec52bece4f9f/tumblr_mhbxroMQP01s2pocso1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8d1ea6783f9f9116a0f72fe1c24fdf78/tumblr_mhbxroMQP01s2pocso2_r1_500.jpg)


Ted, this is Draculawesome! LOL

What a fantastic image, with the 6 sheet art used on this!

 sm1

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 15, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
Yes, Jeff...it is cool, isn't it?
I've been trying to find an image of the interior pages, but no luck so far.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 06:22:54 PM
The Mummy's Tomb, (1942); Swedish OS:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/78/27/617827c19f507d2f0910ae716f918a65.jpg)





The Wolf Man, (1941); Swedish OS


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/43/e2/c8/43e2c88f11f24e57707bf3c99f5b3ab4.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 07:45:53 PM


The Invisible Man Returns (1940); French 1P:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/InvisibleManReturnsFR_zps7c1c83bb.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Frankenstein (1931), Spanish herald:


(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/D-FRANKENSTEIN-BORIS-KARLOFF-UNIVERSAL-MONSTER-SPANISH-Double-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/00/s/NzUwWDU3Ng==/z/8kgAAOxyY7FRCXAW/$(KGrHqF,!jUFDmsRSGWbBRC(!Vrug!~~60_12.JPG)  (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/D-FRANKENSTEIN-BORIS-KARLOFF-UNIVERSAL-MONSTER-SPANISH-Double-HERALD-MINI-POSTER-/00/s/NjYzWDEwMDA=/z/J~QAAMXQH-pRCXAa/$(KGrHqF,!rMFDILqhLbPBRC(!,snVg~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on February 16, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Nice one!  :) The  Spanish Heralds are normally so beautiful.. bed1 bed1
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 16, 2013, 09:37:09 PM

Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, late 1960's Yugoslavian poster:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqVikFD-woSKkvBRDQIBiGCw60_3_zps98049963.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on February 17, 2013, 03:04:41 AM
Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, late 1960's Yugoslavian poster:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqVikFD-woSKkvBRDQIBiGCw60_3_zps98049963.jpg)
I actually picked this up not to long ago. Great looking in person.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 21, 2013, 12:28:38 AM
The Wolf Man, 1960s RR, US OS:

 thumbup

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqJjYFDhpjMmUvBRIok1CSRg60_57_zps363cbfe6.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 21, 2013, 12:55:06 AM
And while not film posters, these paintings of Karloff, from 3 of Universal's horror classics, show that artist, Basil Gogos, does it like nobody's business:  clap clap


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hygE9s7HLchKBQlVUyn-g60_57_zps82c2b7aa.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqNHJCcFBoLhPPYfBQlVVc5RIw60_57_zps9b7f2d7d.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16FHJGQE9noMZJnBQlVHYtEw60_57_zps51037bbd.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on February 21, 2013, 02:22:15 AM
And while not film posters, these paintings of Karloff, from 3 of Universal's horror classics, show that artist, Basil Gogos, does it like nobody's business:  clap clap


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hygE9s7HLchKBQlVUyn-g60_57_zps82c2b7aa.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqNHJCcFBoLhPPYfBQlVVc5RIw60_57_zps9b7f2d7d.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16FHJGQE9noMZJnBQlVHYtEw60_57_zps51037bbd.jpg)
Those are very cool looking.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on February 21, 2013, 02:28:48 AM
And while not film posters, these paintings of Karloff, from 3 of Universal's horror classics, show that artist, Basil Gogos, does it like nobody's business:  clap clap


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16hygE9s7HLchKBQlVUyn-g60_57_zps82c2b7aa.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqNHJCcFBoLhPPYfBQlVVc5RIw60_57_zps9b7f2d7d.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/T2eC16FHJGQE9noMZJnBQlVHYtEw60_57_zps51037bbd.jpg)

OK

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 06:15:05 PM
More 6 sheet goodness.  

Son Of Frankenstein (1939):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SOF6sh_zps35480583.jpg)




The Phantom of the Opera (1925):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/phantom6sh_zps8fef3e58.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on February 23, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
Since we have some new members who may not have seen it, and since it's iconic, and dare I say celestial beauty knows no bounds, a repost, of a repost.

I know it will be downhill from here, but at some stage all others need to be trumped.


And so...

I give you...

Original,

Rare as hell, THE ONLY EXAMPLE KNOWN.

UNRESTORED....

FRANKENSTEIN AUSTRALIAN DAYBILL.




.......



(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/aririchards/Personal/AAA/IMGP3759.jpg)


Feel free to bow, cheer, applaud, or even weep with joy.

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Louie D. on February 23, 2013, 10:42:05 PM
Still better than any Star Wars poster.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on February 23, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
Best daybill ever. I could KILL for this one.  clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 23, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
WE HAVE ANOTHER WINNER!!


 woohoo woohoo woohoo woohoo qip qip qip happy1 happy1 jawdrop jawdrop sm1 sm1

Plus... "Its been BANNED for Decades"  So cool!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 24, 2013, 01:15:30 AM
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/aririchards/Personal/AAA/IMGP3759.jpg)

They sure don't make them like they used to.
What a classic.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on February 24, 2013, 03:45:57 AM
Is that for sale Ari, I may purchase if it's in my price range...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on February 24, 2013, 03:58:54 AM
I don't think so, or rather, I think it's probably worth more to me that what anyone would pay for it.
I wouldn't be offended by an offer, if someone isn't offended by a no, but we both may be surprised.
I wouldn't know how to put a price tag on it, and what I paid is next to nothing.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on February 24, 2013, 04:01:33 AM
if Ari refuses anyone's offer, all you have to do is show it to your 7 year-old nephew and he'll bang out a copy for free
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on February 24, 2013, 04:04:28 AM
No way, they would have to be at least 8.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on February 24, 2013, 08:31:17 AM
No way, they would have to be at least 8.

And Australian... there is something special in the water down there I think!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 24, 2013, 10:57:42 AM
And Australian... there is something special in the water down there I think!

Nah we determined they're produced by Asian child labour already!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on February 24, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
Assorted Unbelievables!  Unbelievable!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
A lobby card and insert for the lost sound film, The Cat Creeps (1930). The movie is in the crime/mystery genre but the material looks good here, too:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dqnEoghI22o/Ryfk0b0mrBI/AAAAAAAABv4/LlH2CyaKD5M/s1600/tcctc.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8193/8143598375_a65a95fda5_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2013, 02:45:23 PM

The Invisible Man (Pre-war Belgian, 24x32):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/INvisible_zps06047298.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on February 27, 2013, 04:07:27 PM
Unbelievable, Jeff.  LOVE that poster so much! :o
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2013, 04:11:10 PM
Brian,

I agree. Love the art on this, too.

And like its US counterpart, this must also be the advance. With nothing more than the title and production company.  cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 27, 2013, 04:56:28 PM
Definitely one of my favourite poster images ever
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on February 27, 2013, 09:36:12 PM
Got this one today. First release in the 70's Bride of Frankenstein from Finland.
Image and size are ok. Printed on glossy paper, so not really sure if it's an original or a reproduction.

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/BrideOfFrankenstein-Finnish.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on February 27, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
I like it a lot Matias! Good stuff

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 27, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
Got this one today. First release in the 70's Bride of Frankenstein from Finland.
Image and size are ok. Printed on glossy paper, so not really sure if it's an original or a reproduction.

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/BrideOfFrankenstein-Finnish.jpg)

 clap clap clap

Looking good! Some great imagery on that, Matias, with the statue of the Grim Reaper featured in the shot, too.


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: pratschm on February 27, 2013, 10:20:34 PM
The Invisible Man (Pre-war Belgian, 24x32):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/INvisible_zps06047298.jpg)

Wow, that is one good looking poster! thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on February 28, 2013, 05:24:21 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnhlaiixFL1qg4blro1_500.gif#The%20invisible%20man%20gifs%20450x344)  thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 09, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
I mentioned the author of that book just yesterday in the history of teh hobby thread
Matt, I've been collecting since the early sixties (comic books)
my first poster buy was 2 Universal 6 sheets, including Invisible Man's Revenge, for $20 from Dick Bojarski who wrote a book on Karloff. that would be 1967 or 68.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
The Mummy (US 24 sheet); 1932 B/W pressbook image:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mum24jpg_zps2734f553.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 09, 2013, 06:14:09 PM
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/BrideOfFrankenstein-Finnish.jpg)

Nice find, Matias.
I've never seen that one before.
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on March 09, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
Thanks Ted. It'll do until I find an argentinean first release  ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 09, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Thanks Ted. It'll do until I find an argentinean first release  ;)

Go get 'em,man.
Do you know whether they used any of the same art back in '35?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on March 09, 2013, 06:27:20 PM
Nope. don't know...
I know a collector here who might know (as he supposedly owns some local posters for early horror classics). Shoot him several emails, with no answer...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
Here's a higher resolution image of a marquee that was posted back in December:  cheers

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/hireZ_zps4ce63e5c.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/75678_4656244854794_259214900_n.jpg)


(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbwep0vOas1qa0nt3o1_1280.jpg)


(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/310/2032/400/ghost9.jpg)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
Love 'em!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 09, 2013, 09:29:48 PM
I can probably post this here too...

My latest... A Czech 1st release (12x36). 

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/random%20pics/Fantomopery_zpscc93c6aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
Oh sure why not showoff ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
A moment for Mary Philbin.. a prod. still of her from Phantom (1925)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IpFwFTEJH9A/TB9eUF0k2tI/AAAAAAAAGhQ/O99TLG93jjg/s1600/aaaap10.jpg)


And the sets were OUTSTANDING!:   clap clap clap

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IpFwFTEJH9A/TB9eKymSvVI/AAAAAAAAGhI/njpGrEyoOwo/s1600/aaaap11.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 11:07:25 PM


The Black Castle, 1952; US OS:

(http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/310/2032/1600/431387/karloff1.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
More a Universal trade ad/press announcement regarding the sound reissue of Phantom:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/aaaap3_zpsdf59ab9a.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Louie D. on March 10, 2013, 12:18:55 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IpFwFTEJH9A/TB9eKymSvVI/AAAAAAAAGhI/njpGrEyoOwo/s1600/aaaap11.jpg)

SNITZ!!!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2013, 01:43:29 AM
The one and only.  ;D


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 11, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
(http://drnorth.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/the-ghost-of-frankenstein-poster.jpg?w=741)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on March 12, 2013, 04:26:56 AM
Wow, that poster has been so disfigured it shouldn't even be allowed on here.
The text "タイン" below "フランケンシュ" was cut off from the side so the word "Frankenstein" is now on two lines, the English title panel and the Japanese credit panel were both cut and removed from below and to the right of the image, the red Japanese kanji "の幽霊" were individually cut and pasted on and finally a good 6" of art has been trimmed vertically on the right side, while another 6-8" of art has been trimmed horizontally from the bottom.
Blech.


Here is what an unaltered one looks like:
(http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/6/5768/japfrank.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 12, 2013, 05:25:45 AM
Wow, that is quite the hack job, Sean.
I'd remove it from this thread, but your explanation of all the cut and paste is too educational to lose.
Thanks for setting the record straight as the image I posted is all over the internet on several sites.
I have to admit I like the green hues in the hack job though....
 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on March 12, 2013, 07:40:58 AM
Wow, that poster has been so disfigured it shouldn't even be allowed on here.


For god's sake Sean, is a Frankenstein poster after all... Wasn't the man built from pieces?  ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
Ha!  Good catch Matias!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on March 12, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
Ha!  Good catch Matias!

 cheers
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on March 12, 2013, 12:25:46 PM
I'm impressed Sean can read Japanese.... I was just looking at the pictures.. :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2013, 02:28:16 PM

Captive Wild Woman (1943); US OS:

(https://horrorpediadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/tumblr_mtm1bvf7tb1suchdko1_1280.jpg?w=637&h=960)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 12, 2013, 02:31:56 PM
I'm impressed Sean can read Japanese.... I was just looking at the pictures.. :D

most people don't know he operated a comics & poster shop in Japan in the 1990s. Might have been 2 stores.

I didn't know he could speak Japanese either until he read some writing on the back of a poster I had at the office. I was rather surprised
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Posteroid on March 12, 2013, 03:13:32 PM
Wow, that poster has been so disfigured it shouldn't even be allowed on here.
The text "タイン" below "フランケンシュ" was cut off from the side so the word "Frankenstein" is now on two lines

Agree with Sean on this.
I have never seen a Japanese headline where a name or a word was cut into two lines. That's just completely wrong.

Armin
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
Bruce also gives a great and interesting description of how the separately printed text elements were carefully glued onto the copy he had:

"Important Added Info: Note that only the single top word in red across the monster's forehead, and the symbol directly below the last letter of that word were actually printed on the poster. The three letters below the top word and the two large red characters at right center, as well as the two large black text blocks at bottom, and the Universal logo, were all printed on separate pieces of paper and carefully glued in place! I have no idea why this was done, but it seems certain that it was done at the time the poster was created or shortly thereafter, and by the studio. Perhaps an expert on Japanese posters could tell us more about this (and if they have ever seen any other Japanese Universal horror posters from right after World War II; this is the only one I have ever seen and it has a wonderful image)."

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/12425772.html

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 03:33:53 PM
(http://drnorth.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/the-ghost-of-frankenstein-poster.jpg?w=741)


I noticed this poster has the MPEA logo like my Czech Phantom poster.  Regarding my poster, Bruce said:

That MPEA guarantees it is 1946 to 1948 (long story as to why)

For those interested, I assume this is the 'long story' Bruce is referring to:

http://www.academia.edu/326294/_The_Good_the_Bad_and_the_Un-American_The_Czechoslovak_Film_Monopoly_Hollywood_and_American_Independent_Distributors_
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2013, 04:01:10 PM

Murders in the Rue Morgue (1932)  bed1 bed1

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll4df7IiFN1qk1vbpo1_500.jpg)  (http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/24/MPW-12137)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 12, 2013, 04:23:02 PM

Man-Made Monster (1941); US OS

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3U2s_RahMQE/TfcZYlFOzwI/AAAAAAAADnI/FeWkqkz3gec/s1600/full.man-mademonster-1s-16324.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_litaifNh181qaws9po1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Posteroid on March 12, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
I noticed this poster has the MPEA logo like my Czech Phantom poster.  Regarding my poster, Bruce said: "That MPEA guarantees it is 1946 to 1948 (long story as to why)"

GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN was released in Japan on October 4th, 1949.
So obviously in Japan the MPEA logo does not guarantee that the poster is from 1946-48.

Armin
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN was released in Japan on October 4th, 1949.
So obviously in Japan the MPEA logo does not guarantee that the poster is from 1946-48.

Armin

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply the MPEA/Czech overlap applied for Japan as well... seeing that poster just reminded me to look it up.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Bruce on March 12, 2013, 09:02:10 PM
GHOST OF FRANKENSTEIN was released in Japan on October 4th, 1949.
So obviously in Japan the MPEA logo does not guarantee that the poster is from 1946-48.

Armin

It started in the end of 1945 in German, Japan and a few other places. Obviously it kept going until at least October 1949, based on your info.

But in Germany, many movies were released by MPEA a year or more prior to the official release to regular German theaters, so it is possible the same was true in Japan.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
It started in the end of 1945 in German, Japan and a few other places. Obviously it kept going until at least October 1949, based on your info.

But in Germany, many movies were released by MPEA a year or more prior to the official release to regular German theaters, so it is possible the same was true in Japan.

IMDB shows the MPEA distributing films in the Netherlands and West Germany through 1948, and in Austria through 1952. 

This source says the MPEA was meant to help distribution in all foreign markets, but their focus really ended up on for Axis and Iron Curtain countries -- presumably because individual studios had a harder time negotiating on their own. 

Quote
In the late 1940s, the MPEA handled all distribution of Hollywood films in the dozen or so countries where these problems were most severe, including Austria, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, the East Indies, Germany, Hungary, Japan, Korea, the Netherlands, Poland, Rumania, the Soviet Union, and Yugoslavia. There were a few other trouble spots besides Great Britain, like France, Spain, and China, where the MPEA tried to facilitate trade and negotiated agreements but did not serve as the sole bargaining agent for the studios. By 1949, with the former Axis nations on the rebound and now becoming viable U.S. trade partners, the MPEA focused its attention more exclusively on the Soviet Union and other Iron Curtain countries.

Read more: The Postwar Motion Picture Industry - Postwar America, the Global Economy, and the Cold War, Hollywood and Washington - JRank Articles http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/2937/The-Postwar-Motion-Picture-Industry.html#ixzz2NNgihEYO
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on March 12, 2013, 10:08:41 PM
My Spanish herald looks like that one sheeter

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/aririchards/Spanish%20Heralds/Untitled-Scanned-21.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Bruce on March 12, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
IMDB shows the MPEA distributing films in the Netherlands and West Germany through 1948, and in Austria through 1952. 

This source says the MPEA was meant to help distribution in all foreign markets, but their focus really ended up on for Axis and Iron Curtain countries -- presumably because individual studios had a harder time negotiating on their own. 


Great info! So that Czech poster could be as late as 1952. I was wrong. I had extensive experience with MPEA in Germany, and foolishly thought it translated to other countries.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
Could be... but I was under the impression that the slim Czech format went away with the arrival (or shortly there after) of the Soviets in 1948.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 12, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Actually, this source below makes it sound like the MPEA was gone from Czechoslovakia by late 1947/early 1948.  If you read further into the article it says that Yugoslavia was the only Eastern Bloc country where they were able to negotiate long term distribution arrangements.  So while their focus may have been on former-Axis and Iron Curtain countries, it doesn't sound like the MPEA were very successful with the latter.  I still can't find much regarding their Japanese stint... although their presence would only be until the studios themselves got a foothold. 

http://books.google.com/books?id=hPwdhDUGsqcC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=MPEA+Czechoslovakia&source=bl&ots=-Qou3oACPG&sig=Sj_6_NnRi2QPwY7hCJZqg7O_KQQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UOM_UffoKvao4AOl9ICIAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=MPEA%20Czechoslovakia&f=false

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/odd%20and%20ends/ScreenShot2013-03-12at102623PM_zps80c09764.png)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 13, 2013, 09:48:06 PM
Great research boys
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 14, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Two RR Italian posters for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man, on which Bela Lugosi's name is glaringly absent from the credits. How could they have not included or forgotten Bela?  :'(  The first is a 2-foglio, the second, a 4-foglio:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/FrankWolfIT_zps3d2bc0e1.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/frankenstein_meets_wolf_man_poster_04_zpsf73e78c8.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on March 14, 2013, 04:39:08 PM
WooW ....great colours.. clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
A cool, Italian fotobusta for Son Of Frankenstein. Love the artwork on the left side. Primo!   clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/fotobusta_zpsd5fa3143.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
2 pages from the May 1935 Universal Exhibitor's publication, showing various advert items, posters and some marquee set ups for Bride of Frankenstein.  clap clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/pages_zps915aec61.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 30, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
 clap indeed!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 30, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
Very cool stuff, indeed.  clap clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 30, 2013, 08:23:30 PM
All fixed....


(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B7%2F5%2F5%2F0%2F7550863%5D%2Csizedata%5B450x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 30, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
Cool gallery, Mel.
I'm curious about the three-sheet in the pressbook lower right.
Does anyone know if any of that style has survived?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on March 30, 2013, 09:34:20 PM
Cool gallery, Mel.
I'm curious about the three-sheet in the pressbook lower right.
Does anyone know if any of that style has survived?


I think we are too far down on the totem pole to be trusted with that kind of info :)

I hope it has though...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 30, 2013, 10:00:57 PM
I don't believe the bottom 3 posters are extant
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 30, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
or the top poster either
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 30, 2013, 10:21:00 PM
The window card has the same basic image (including the Lugosiless likeness) as the six sheet:

(http://p2.la-img.com/930/18668/6321183_1_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Bruce on March 30, 2013, 11:49:26 PM
The window cards were made in advance of filming, at a time when W.C. Fields was still going to be Drac.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2013, 12:06:23 AM
The window cards were made in advance of filming, at a time when W.C. Fields was still going to be Drac.

Learned something new today - thanks Bruce
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on March 31, 2013, 12:47:34 AM
The window cards were made in advance of filming, at a time when W.C. Fields was still going to be Drac.

I thought that bulbous nose looked familiar.  wynk
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 31, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
I added the image of the movie posters to the Wikipedia article about Dracula:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracula_(1931_film)#Legacy

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on March 31, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Nice WC Chris!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on March 31, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
Nice WC Chris!

Yeah it might just be a Haggard special ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 31, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
Nice to see one in color, in any case, Chris.

 thumbup



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on April 01, 2013, 01:07:36 AM
Yeah it might just be a Haggard special ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on April 03, 2013, 03:53:33 AM
More an early sci-fi-type movie, but with Lugosi and Karloff.

Black Friday (1940); US OS:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/tumblr_mdy989Asxe1r7dgeuo1_500_zps2e5c0c46.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on April 03, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954); Swedish OS:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/CreatureLagoon-SWE_zps9efdf219.jpg)



Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948); Italian:


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/AbbampCostMeetFrank-IT_zps635c0504.jpg)



Revenge of the Creature (1955); Spanish OS:


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/tumblr_mc2pkb12pm1qz72v7o1_500_zpsa8500830.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on April 03, 2013, 03:21:21 PM
More an early sci-fi-type movie, but with Lugosi and Karloff.

Black Friday (1940); US OS:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/tumblr_mdy989Asxe1r7dgeuo1_500_zps2e5c0c46.jpg)


I like this one very much!  (http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/tonterias/Parabogart2_zpse95f314e.gif)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2013, 05:15:30 PM
Just found my sheet of 1997, 32˘ USPS stamps that featured the UNI horror greats. While not posters, any of these renditions would have made an incredible OS, imho.  thumbup

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/1997MonsterStamps_zps62e581ea.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/1997MonsterStamps_zps62e581ea.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on April 20, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
How cool would it be if OS, LC or WC actually did this?!  thumbup

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/tumblr_mlkd2oZkpv1ra01abo1_400_zps3182c5b6.gif) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/tumblr_mlkd2oZkpv1ra01abo1_400_zps3182c5b6.gif.html)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on April 21, 2013, 08:27:27 AM
That's why I've been tumbling.
Incredible stuff to see and read every minute of the day.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 28, 2013, 05:41:05 PM
The Mummy (1932); Palestinian poster, 62 x 94 cm (approx 24.5 x 37 inches); Exact date of poster unknown. It looks like it may have been locally produced(?)

 clap clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mummy_zps4c194efd.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/mummy_zps4c194efd.jpg.html)

*Recently sold for $3000.00


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on May 28, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
I would have paid those $3000 with a smile in my face (that is, if I had them  ;D)
That's a fantastic poster, and I believe our pretend australian friend will agree.

Great find Jeff!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on June 09, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
This just crossed my Tumblr dashboard.
I haven't seen this image in years.
Not sure what year of release, but it's still very cool, eh?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3194e0ed4cbefc2c87090e808094cb91/tumblr_mo3s1cmjnj1qzr8nao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on June 09, 2013, 01:49:58 PM
Heritage lists it as an r48 Realart.  Sells for a pretty penny too...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2013, 02:49:26 PM
I really like how Evelyn Ankers is "spilling" out of the picture frame.  thumbup


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on June 09, 2013, 04:14:02 PM
I really like how Evelyn Ankers is "spilling" out of the picture frame.  thumbup


That Evelyn is spillin' out all over.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4e69890ad6616a255918b72e218e3cf8/tumblr_mmevrePhwj1s2pocso1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 09, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
She's good at "spilling."   ;D


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on June 09, 2013, 09:56:42 PM
I would have paid those $3000 with a smile in my face (that is, if I had them  ;D)
That's a fantastic poster, and I believe our pretend australian friend will agree.

Great find Jeff!

Oh yeah!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 16, 2013, 02:02:42 AM
A Beautious card:  clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/202097_10200949737687110_252327418_o_zpscc1bc96f.jpg) (http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/spitfire3992/media/202097_10200949737687110_252327418_o_zpscc1bc96f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ozcinemagic on July 13, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
Bit of Aussie "to die for" artwork.
Such skill ...

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh557/ozcinemagic/unihorror.jpg) (http://s1251.photobucket.com/user/ozcinemagic/media/unihorror.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 13, 2013, 12:49:15 AM
Bit of Aussie "to die for" artwork.
Such skill ...

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh557/ozcinemagic/unihorror.jpg) (http://s1251.photobucket.com/user/ozcinemagic/media/unihorror.jpg.html)


Skill comes in many forms..  mesmrized


 ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ozcinemagic on July 13, 2013, 12:58:06 AM
Skill comes in many forms..  mesmrized
;)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no doubt!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 13, 2013, 01:19:29 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no doubt!

Aint that the truth.. and in more ways than one..

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on July 13, 2013, 03:05:11 AM
I like it.. :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: ozcinemagic on July 13, 2013, 07:20:26 AM
I like it.. :D
It speaks something of the industry at the time. You won't see many Aussie collectors getting all sniffy and measuring the distance from the border to the registration marks. It was never that formal with daybills, and hooray on that count, I say!!!  :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: oldposterho on July 13, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
That's got to be the same artist as the "Godzilla" and other Frankie poster travesties.  I wonder if anybody has ever cataloged his/her output.  I think it'd be a damn fine collection.

Seriously.  I absolutely adore these, sort of the outsider art of the poster world.

--Peter
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 13, 2013, 03:45:07 PM
Richardson Studio daybill artists at work

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/daybill_artists.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on July 13, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
 laugh1
Richardson Studio daybill artists at work

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/daybill_artists.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on July 13, 2013, 10:22:33 PM
I'd buy it and would be a good idea collecting this stuff, could bring it out at parties and show off.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on July 13, 2013, 10:48:15 PM
Bit of Aussie "to die for" artwork.
Such skill ...

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh557/ozcinemagic/unihorror.jpg) (http://s1251.photobucket.com/user/ozcinemagic/media/unihorror.jpg.html)


Shocking! Exciting! Terrifying!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on July 14, 2013, 03:30:18 AM
Link posted on facebook. Man buys original Frankenstein insert as a kid for a few bucks, discovers its value so will soon have it auctioned by Heritage

http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534 (http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534)


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 14, 2013, 03:41:01 AM
Great article, Steve. Thanks for posting the link.


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on July 14, 2013, 04:02:40 AM
Very interesting article Steve. Thanks for posting. The current bid on it is only at $40,000 not including BP. Watch it climb up there when it comes down to the end of the auction. Great looking insert in my eyes. I would love to have it but will never be lucky enough.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on July 14, 2013, 05:08:14 AM
He painted the monsters jumper Red..... eyeroll
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on July 15, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
Link posted on facebook. Man buys original Frankenstein insert as a kid for a few bucks, discovers its value so will soon have it auctioned by Heritage

http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534 (http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534)




Great find Steve BUT found in Ottawa, Illinois.  What a crock!  Ottawa, Ontario Canada (i.e. our nation's capital) would have be something else!

Also hard to believe with the knowledge he apparently has of horror films (and as an artist) he had no idea whatsoever about it's rarity and value...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: guest4185 on July 16, 2013, 09:19:01 AM
well I like those crappy Aussie daybills...don't care what anyone things - even my Godzilla.
Anyway, not sure if this qualifies for this topic but here's an Aussie herald (I've got one for sale on ebay now if interested) from Invisible Man Returns

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f313/elvis57/DSC_0103_zps4703a148.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/elvis57/media/DSC_0103_zps4703a148.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 16, 2013, 04:39:37 PM
Thanks for article Steve. Gotta wonder what posters he "lost" over the years...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Charlie on July 16, 2013, 04:46:49 PM
Link posted on facebook. Man buys original Frankenstein insert as a kid for a few bucks, discovers its value so will soon have it auctioned by Heritage

http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534 (http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=478534)




Too bad it will just end up feeding the HA machine...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 01:45:32 AM
Too bad it will just end up feeding the HA machine...

Charlie, the only other auction that could get the right price for the poster is Profiles in History
the owner is selling it right where he should be, if he wants to get the most money for it
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Charlie on July 17, 2013, 12:18:17 PM
Charlie, the only other auction that could get the right price for the poster is Profiles in History
the owner is selling it right where he should be, if he wants to get the most money for it

I have a feeling that with that rare of a poster, it wouldn't matter were it was auctioned.  Maybe some obscure eBay auction or something may cause it to take a hit.  The 3 or 4 that can compete for it will find it and bid accordingly... Yeah the final tally may be less than an inflated BP price, but for the seller... Ergo if you, Pete, or Bruce listed it, the seller would take more home at the end. And not feed the group of corporate ass clowns in Dallas...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on July 17, 2013, 12:42:35 PM
(http://sickhorses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/assclown.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 01:16:37 PM
I have a feeling that with that rare of a poster, it wouldn't matter were it was auctioned.  Maybe some obscure eBay auction or something may cause it to take a hit.  The 3 or 4 that can compete for it will find it and bid accordingly... Yeah the final tally may be less than an inflated BP price, but for the seller... Ergo if you, Pete, or Bruce listed it, the seller would take more home at the end. And not feed the group of corporate ass clowns in Dallas...

Charlie, Heritage got $31,700 for the Most Dangerous Game half sheet that they sold
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7043&lotNo=83393

a rare poster of which only 2 are known at this point. The second poster went for $10,600 (unrestored)
that says it all.......
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 17, 2013, 02:02:01 PM
I often wonder with posters in that price range,If the buyer is buying it because its rare,or buying becayse they like the artwork.

Stew
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on July 17, 2013, 02:21:58 PM
Don't forget Stew, Rare doesn't mean expensive..... ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 02:31:16 PM
Don't forget Stew, Rare doesn't mean expensive..... ;)

that is correct.
here's an example

Q: the WINGED SERPENT 1982 Teaser 1sh .. Rare style for cult film
Current Bid: $7.00
http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=106159
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Charlie on July 17, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
Charlie, Heritage got $31,700 for the Most Dangerous Game half sheet that they sold
http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7043&lotNo=83393

a rare poster of which only 2 are known at this point. The second poster went for $10,600 (unrestored)
that says it all.......

Not really a good argument...

310K - http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7003&lotNo=86503

143K - http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055&lotNo=83010

The first one will always go highest.  Plus the second was in poor shape.  So your whole argument hinges on a comparison between a second known unrestored (yet unsightly) copy?  Like the Franky Insert it will sell for more as the first than the next one...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
not a good example Charlie. the first one was sold before the market fell due to the Haggard scandal, and the exit of 2 very important collectors who were driving the market.
The second one of course got trashed by some people here on APF and as we all know, APF comments completely destroy the value of any poster (or so hopes some people) (and in case any of you aren't smart enough, yes that last part is indeed sarcasm)

Not really a good argument...

310K - http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7003&lotNo=86503

143K - http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055&lotNo=83010

The first one will always go highest.  Plus the second was in poor shape.  So your whole argument hinges on a comparison between a second known unrestored (yet unsightly) copy?  Like the Franky Insert it will sell for more as the first than the next one...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on July 17, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
not a good example Charlie. the first one was sold before the market fell due to the Haggard scandal, and the exit of 2 very important collectors who were driving the market.
The second one of course got trashed by some people here on APF and as we all know, APF comments completely destroy the value of any poster (or so hopes some people) (and in case any of you aren't smart enough, yes that last part is indeed sarcasm)

That Pulp Fiction poster is complete garbage not worth the paper it is printed on. CAN I HAVE ONE OF YOURS NOW Rich for $10 LMAO JK
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on July 17, 2013, 04:03:49 PM
that is correct.
here's an example

Q: the WINGED SERPENT 1982 Teaser 1sh .. Rare style for cult film
Current Bid: $7.00
http://www.movieposterbid.com/itemdetl.asp?id=106159


That is a good price Rich, looks like that site is the place to buy posters... ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 04:11:53 PM
That Pulp Fiction poster is complete garbage not worth the paper it is printed on. CAN I HAVE ONE OF YOURS NOW Rich for $10 LMAO JK

nothing wrong with sarcasm

 :-*
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rdavey26 on July 17, 2013, 04:17:19 PM
nothing wrong with sarcasm

 :-*
;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 10:39:58 PM

That is a good price Rich, looks like that site is the place to buy posters... ;)

well, the auction isn't over yet Paul.. It may go higher, it may sell for where it is (unlikely)

but it is still an example of rarity not necccessarily translating into "uber-expensive"
I'd venture to say that most "rare" posters actually only sell below $500 in all sizes because most rare posters are pre-1940 and there is an awful lot that can be gotten for $200 or less that are nearly impossible to find. That lobby card I added to my collection from Just Imagine (1930) didn't cost me a bundle (however a bundle is a subjective term. someone who only makes a few hundred a week a bundle is $50. someone who makes $100 a week $5 can be a bundle. definitely a subjective definition) and it may actually be the only one card that has been sold & resold, or at the very best I can say that fewer than 5 are known to exist. That's very rare (and it's mine.. all mine hahahahahahahahahahaha)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Louie D. on July 17, 2013, 10:53:05 PM
well, the auction isn't over yet Paul.. It may go higher, it may sell for where it is (unlikely)

but it is still an example of rarity not necccessarily translating into "uber-expensive"
I'd venture to say that most "rare" posters actually only sell below $500 in all sizes because most rare posters are pre-1940 and there is an awful lot that can be gotten for $200 or less that are nearly impossible to find. That lobby card I added to my collection from Just Imagine (1930) didn't cost me a bundle (however a bundle is a subjective term. someone who only makes a few hundred a week a bundle is $50. someone who makes $100 a week $5 can be a bundle. definitely a subjective definition) and it may actually be the only one card that has been sold & resold, or at the very best I can say that fewer than 5 are known to exist. That's very rare (and it's mine.. all mine hahahahahahahahahahaha)

Exactly Rich. I have some pieces which I purchased maybe 15 years ago and have never seen another example, but if I went to sell mine it probably wouldn't go for $20.

BTW, nice "Just Imagine" piece..........................fucker.  ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 17, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
BTW, nice "Just Imagine" piece..........................#@*!&%.  ;D

thanks Louie.. hope you get that other item
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on July 17, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
Plenty of things that are rare that are worth nothing.
Even unique.
Like me.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on July 18, 2013, 12:01:14 AM
Plenty of things that are rare that are worth nothing.
Even unique.
Like me.

you're more like "well done" even possibly "overcooked"
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on July 18, 2013, 12:04:30 AM
Plenty of things that are rare that are worth nothing.
Even unique.
Like me.

I bet that ever expanding arse is worth some $ now...

....At least in a freak show
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 18, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
The Raven (Universal, 1935); Realart 1948RR, US 3 sheet:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC02898_zpsh1aee8ot.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on July 18, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
The Raven (Universal, 1935); Realart 1948RR, US 3 sheet:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC02898_zpsh1aee8ot.jpg)


For a poster from 48, it sure is in great condition.  Those colors look super bright!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on July 19, 2013, 01:37:48 PM
I'm from 1948 and my colors are still bright, just more white  ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on July 19, 2013, 02:00:19 PM
Yikes, Have you been bleached....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on July 19, 2013, 02:04:03 PM
I believe the european sun tends to fade colors a little less  ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on July 19, 2013, 03:14:32 PM
I'm from 1948 and my colors are still bright, just more white  ;D


Vampire white I hope
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on July 21, 2013, 04:01:36 AM
Minty white.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ari on July 22, 2013, 09:49:12 AM
Not me, I'm yellow like a Mexican lobby card.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 13, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
All I can say is WOW!..  bed1

A French 2P for Dracula's Daughter (Universal, 1936).

Done brilliantly, IMO, by artist, Joseph Koutachy.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZqQFJ4RpMilBSe4bgd60_57_zpsfb5d0f71.jpg)

*care of Benito, of course. And available for $21,000.00  cheers


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2014, 05:35:54 PM
Kirk Hammond has a series of short Q&A vids on youtube, where he answers fans' questions.

How cool is it to see a selection of his Uni horror posters on display on the wall behind him. From The Mummy 3-sh, to the US OS for The Black Cat.

Nice inserts, too!  ;)  

Looking good, have to say.

http://www.youtube.com/v/OiG5K9ShCZs


http://www.youtube.com/user/FearFestEviL?feature=watch
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Zorba on February 08, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
Hang em if you got em!

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on February 17, 2014, 02:04:27 AM
In Heritage's upcoming signature auction there is a lot of several stills from the 1938 showing of Dracula/Frankenstein and a few from The Wolf Man.  Lines of people around the block and several posters can be seen in the photos.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on February 17, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
Good catch Sean.  Here is the high res image. 

And on a side note... I know it gets said every sig auction, but damn there are some nice posters coming up in March! 

(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F0%2F3%2F1%2F11031903%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on February 17, 2014, 12:14:37 PM
OK Matt - now find those posters!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on February 17, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
And on a side note... I know it gets said every sig auction, but damn there are some nice posters coming up in March! 

Agreed - that auction might deserve it's own thread. The amount of rarely seen material in it is staggering.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on March 03, 2014, 07:50:24 PM
The 1951 Realart RR OS for Frankenstein. But the Monster's head is that of Karloff from Bride Of Frank, with some touch ups and shading to his forehead & hairline (they somewhat "added" the hair back) and made less obvious the burn mark on the right side of his face and cheek.


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/frankie51_zpsfde95f68.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/frank51_zpsb77f89b4.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on May 22, 2014, 07:58:48 PM
Mummy's Hand, The (1940 US 3S):

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE3/2014-05/Mummy%27s%20Hand%2C%20The%20%281940%20US%203S%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 22, 2014, 09:41:56 PM
Certainly a long way off from the original Mummy 3sh with Mr. Karloff. What's interesting is that, sadly, the image of the mummy on the 3sh above (his face, at least) is probably the weakest element on the entire poster. A sign of the times and budget.  :-[
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on May 22, 2014, 11:47:25 PM
Tyler definitely was the scariest Mummy though!

(http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/mummys-hand-mummy-face-eyes-tom-tyler-600x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 01:05:41 AM
Tyler definitely was the scariest Mummy though!



In this publicity shot, he looks kinda bored.

But I agree that making his eyes like empty sockets in the movie (done in post-prod) was a very creepy effect, no doubt about it.  cheers

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/tumblr_m4hyoiGrMa1qb7dheo1_1280_zps63b858c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on May 23, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
Also mistakenly used on the Belgian re-release of The Mummy's Curse:

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr156/Assgoblin/IMG_5095.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 23, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Interesting how there are a couple Uni horror Belgians that used the wrong version of the monster. Same here with their 1950s poster for Frankenstein, using Glenn Strange's image.

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/_57-4_zps806c318c.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 24, 2014, 06:31:49 PM
A 1953RR Realart OS for The Mummy's Ghost (1944), with Lon Chaney. Me likes this poster. Chaney's image has the definite creep factor going here, almost more so than on the original OS, imo. 

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/realartMummysGhost_zpsc1fbfa1a.jpg)

1944 original release OS:
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/the-mummys-ghost-movie-poster-1944-1020197236_zps12484a86.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on May 25, 2014, 02:40:57 AM
Why would they put a head of Lon on the poster ...with No Mummy make-up..!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on May 25, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
Why would they put a head of Lon on the poster ...with No Mummy make-up..!

I never noticed that!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 01:07:20 PM
I was wondering the same thing, when I looked at the poster. Does Chaney ever appears as himself, a la Karloff, in any flashback scenes?  It's been so many years since I've seen this movie, that I can't recall. If he does, then it makes sense, in some fashion.

If he doesn't, did Universal just want his "pretty face" on the poster? I don't think that Chaney could have insisted on something like this, as he would have been under contract to Universal and had little to no say in such matters.  :-\

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on May 25, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
He doesn't Jeff, the flask-backs are always of Karloff, or Tom Tyler.

I don't think he was still under contract to Universal in 53 anyway.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 02:24:56 PM
He doesn't Jeff, the flask-backs are always of Karloff, or Tom Tyler.

I don't think he was still under contract to Universal in 53 anyway.


Maybe not in '53, but the movie was made in 1944, so I'm sure Chaney was under contract with Universal then.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
A beautiful WC for Werewolf of London (1935)   bed1


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/491WerewolfofLondon_zpsbad62064.jpg)

*This actual card was passed on, at this weekend's Cinevent Hollywood Poster auction.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on May 25, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
Maybe not in '53, but the movie was made in 1944, so I'm sure Chaney was under contract with Universal then.

The poster didn't exist until 1953 Jeff.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
The poster didn't exist until 1953 Jeff.

Paul, the OS image I posted above, with Chaney's actual face shown (his floating head) is the first release one sheet from 1944.

Universal used the same image of Chaney (lower left) on the 1944 first release 3sh, as well:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/lf_zps798d6d2c.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on May 25, 2014, 11:18:59 PM
I think the Chaney portrait used is from the Inner Sanctum mystery series...just cannot place which film yet
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on May 26, 2014, 03:57:02 AM
Quite right Jeff, I must pay more attention.. ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on May 26, 2014, 10:05:11 AM
I think the Chaney portrait used is from the Inner Sanctum mystery series...just cannot place which film yet


Tis very Frozen Ghost like Chris, both from 44.  Mind he look the same in them all...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on May 26, 2014, 03:53:35 PM
*This actual card was passed on, at this weekend's Cinevent Hollywood Poster auction.

With all the work that has been done to that card, I can't believe they would even try to put a $6K reserve on it
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 26, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
With all the work that has been done to that card, I can't believe they would even try to put a $6K reserve on it

Sean, would that 6K reserve would have been set (or suggested) by the consignor alone? Or in conjunction with the auction folks, as well?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on May 26, 2014, 04:31:20 PM
Sean, would that 6K reserve would have been set (or suggested) by the consignor alone? Or in conjunction with the auction folks, as well?

I would have been set by the consignor. But is a great microcosm of the auction as a whole, unrealistic reserves on problem pieces that taint the auction.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 26, 2014, 05:16:51 PM
Thanks, Sean.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on July 20, 2014, 10:03:15 PM
Not sure if this insert was posted before, but here it is.
Quite lovely, eh?

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/a35f6ee75fbfcac465f5a860f1207035/tumblr_n91f3jjpy41s2pocso1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on September 11, 2014, 11:13:14 PM
Ever see one of these?
Not a poster, but a sticker.
http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?Auction=197&ItemNo=78923 (http://www.hakes.com/item.asp?Auction=197&ItemNo=78923)

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/c8ac22d7e6f5c4a06506c36091d352da/tumblr_nblb2juDoF1r7dgeuo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on September 11, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
And not a bad price, either, realized for that cool little sticker ($224.00).

Cool find, Ted.

 thumbup
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on September 12, 2014, 09:12:35 AM
Nice find Ted. 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on September 14, 2014, 01:15:20 AM
Not a poster, but the cover of a German programme, for The Mummy (Universal, 1932).  bed1

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Mummy-ger1_zps00d7457d.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 09, 2014, 05:30:29 PM
French (not sure if this is the 1P or moyenne) for The Wolf Man


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/KGrHqZlgE8iN8VervBPQCkkWDeg60_12_zps98867e61.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on October 10, 2014, 09:34:45 AM
I watched this film a couple of nights ago.  I found the "human" side of the wolfman very creepy, meaning too desperate for a woman. Creepy. Not so much the wolf. Just hungry.

To my eyes the Italian poster is a truly masterpiece .
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Mirosae on October 10, 2014, 03:37:13 PM
You can't complain Jeff.  Yoy have loads of Chaneys on HA .. get those pennies out.. and a GB Pound..
 >:D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 19, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/1015864_10201545453893471_156768433_o_zps5d5b8052.jpg)  

Not a poster, but a glass slide  notworthy.gif:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/477903_4198156012167_89076339_o_zps8031fbba.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on October 20, 2014, 10:50:28 PM
The slide is so tiny but it looks so great!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on October 21, 2014, 04:08:59 AM
Not a poster, but the cover of a German programme, for The Mummy (Universal, 1932).  bed1

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/Mummy-ger1_zps00d7457d.jpg)


Actually, this is a Austrian program.  The German programs are ''Film Buhne Illustrierte'', Austrian programs are Film-Kurier Illustrierte  :P
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 21, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
Thanks, Lynn.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Ogami_Itto on October 22, 2014, 10:01:01 AM
This is the only universal monsters paper I have and I treasure it quite a bit.

(http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss359/bucketheadvstheshape/posters/IMG_3982.jpg) (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/bucketheadvstheshape/media/posters/IMG_3982.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on October 22, 2014, 11:19:46 AM
That's jollyfine, your a lucky fellow..
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 22, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
 thumbsup.gif

Looking good!

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 29, 2015, 04:55:16 AM
House of Frankenstein (1944); US 3 sheet:  notworthy.gif

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/HOF_zpsvvjm6bf7.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 22, 2015, 03:11:19 AM
The Mummy's Tomb (1942); US 6 sheet


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/mummystomb6sh_zpspvmfvwtz.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: lynaron on October 25, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
STUNNING!!!  faint2.gif
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on October 25, 2015, 05:19:09 PM
That's a beauty.
Whose poster is that Jeff?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2015, 05:40:34 PM
It's not anyone on APF, so I'm not sure I'm at liberty to say. (You know how some of those Uni collectors like to lurk in the shadows).   <OO

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on October 25, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
Man, I just noticed that it looks unprotected right outside the kitchen.
Would be a shame/crime if any cooking fumes eventually discolor that beauty...
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
This collector is a heavy duty Uni horror guy. I'd be willing to say he has it located where no harm will come to it.  ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on October 25, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
That poster is in a basement, not a kitchen.
In fact if you look closely at the walls in the room behind it you will see an Invisible Ray half sheet and some lobbies.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on October 25, 2015, 07:15:39 PM
A-ha!
In the dark they look like cabinets.
The microwave (?) on top of the fridge threw me off.

This your basement, Sean?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2015, 07:51:56 PM
A-ha!
In the dark they look like cabinets.
The microwave (?) on top of the fridge threw me off.

This your basement, Sean?


It's not anyone on APF....


I warn't pullin' yur leg here, Ted. The owner of that 6'er ain't no member here.  wynk


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on October 25, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
You may think that is a fridge in a kitchen, but to the wealthy, this is what they refer to as a bar fridge.

And that microwave is to warm up their pretzels


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on October 25, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
You may think that is a fridge in a kitchen, but to the wealthy, this is what they refer to as a bar fridge.

And that microwave is to warm up their pretzels




 monocle.gif
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 25, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
You may think that is a fridge in a kitchen, but to the wealthy, this is what they refer to as a bar fridge.

And that microwave is to warm up their pretzels




 I think you are on to something there, Steve. girly2.gif
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 25, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
You may think that is a fridge in a kitchen, but to the wealthy, this is what they refer to as a bar fridge.

And that microwave is to warm up their pretzels

yes.. even my small fridge here at the office has it's bar inside..
whomever enjoys Sapphire Gin or 40 year old Scotch is always welcome.....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on October 26, 2015, 03:53:52 AM
Who ever owns the place must spend all their money on posters as they have those awful tiles on the ceiling...


Seems I not welcome at Rich' either..... :-\
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on October 26, 2015, 03:59:33 AM
Who ever owns the place must spend all their money on posters as they have those awful tiles on the ceiling...


Seems I not welcome at Rich' either..... :-\


Yeah, looks like an office rather than a dungeon


I'm sure you are welcome if you offer to help put together the next auction and also to dump the 14" crt monitors. Rich may then sit down and have a Earl Grey with you.  :D




Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on October 26, 2015, 04:39:49 AM
I hope he has a stopper on the door, or that handle will be knocking into the poster...


Mind I have heard Rich likes a chilled red, so I maybe in.... :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on October 26, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
yes.. even my small fridge here at the office has it's bar inside..
whomever enjoys Sapphire Gin or 40 year old Scotch is always welcome.....

I'll take you up on the latter next time I'm in Vegas!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 26, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
Sounds like a poster party could be in the works!  ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on October 26, 2015, 01:48:45 PM
Yeah, lets all meet up at Rich'....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on October 26, 2015, 03:47:55 PM
Yeah, lets all meet up at Rich'....

for sure.. I have plenty of booze.. right now I'm filling up an old empty bottle of Macallanwith some Johnny Walker Red to deal with the sudden influx of APFers

oh wait.. was I supposed to talk about that?????
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Harry Caul on October 26, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
My go to is either Lagavulin or Oban.   monocle.gif
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Crazy Vick on October 26, 2015, 09:40:17 PM
for sure.. I have plenty of booze.. right now I'm filling up an old empty bottle of Macallanwith some Johnny Walker Red to deal with the sudden influx of APFers

oh wait.. was I supposed to talk about that?????

i reckon probably close to the same amount of new members, but it might seem that way to you Rich, if you missed the new rule (post or die). 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 01, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
The Raven (1935) (1948 Realart RR 3sh)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/DSC02898_zpsh1aee8ot.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on November 02, 2015, 12:04:46 PM
Did you buy that Jeff, I toyed with getting it for weeks...

Nice pick up, can't beat the classics.. thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 02, 2015, 12:11:06 PM
Did you buy that Jeff, I toyed with getting it for weeks...

Nice pick up, can't beat the classics.. thumbsup.gif

Yes i did, Paul. Tho I picked it up a couple years ago, and realized I had never posted it here to the forum.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 24, 2015, 11:23:49 PM
I know these arent "legit" Universal horror posters, per se, but these (they were auctioned in HA's July 2015 Sig auction), along with the 3 banners that were auctioned this past Sat, (also by HA), are fantastic, IMHO. Done by artist, Arthur K Miller.

He has created a modern, yet vintage look and I think these are just superb.  clap clap


The Bride of Frankenstein by Arthur K. Miller (2013). Original Artwork; 2 Cloth Banners (24.5" X 49").   bed1 bed1


(http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F5%2F8%2F12758964%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)

 (http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F2%2F7%2F5%2F8%2F12758968%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: jedgerley on November 24, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
I couldnt resist posting this:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/RusselHarmon/New%20folder/Photo%20Nov%2007%2C%201%2000%2012%20PM.png)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 26, 2015, 11:08:58 PM
I wanted to show this detail closeup of Karloff from the above shown The Raven '48RR 3-sheet. More just to show the layer of added colors that Realart's art dept decided to do for this re-release material (as well as to the OS and insert). I think what they did works pretty well, overall.


(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/karloffCUraven_zpsn3uhlg2n.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 27, 2015, 12:28:43 AM
for comparison to the 3sh

too bad someone used black marker on the back for Karloff's hair

sorry for all the reflection stuff

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/apf/raven.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 28, 2015, 04:13:26 PM
Nice comparison, Rich.

To see, too, how the photographic elements were manipulated, on each poster.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on November 28, 2015, 05:23:43 PM
I think the 1 sheet is better. on the 3sh you can't see the pendulum, so it looks like Bela is threatening the victim with more Bela
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on November 28, 2015, 05:26:56 PM
I noticed that, too... and wondered why they decided to put the pendulum in the upper left corner, by itself like that.  dontknow.gif

In either case, I think both layouts still work well.

As a side note, I'm not as big a fan of Karloff's (or any of the) "floating, severed heads" imagery on OS.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on November 29, 2015, 06:44:05 PM
I couldnt resist posting this:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/RusselHarmon/New%20folder/Photo%20Nov%2007%2C%201%2000%2012%20PM.png)

Beautiful.
 clap clap clap clap
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 24, 2016, 12:22:34 AM
Collector Todd Feiertag posted these to MOPO on Tuesday (and both are for sale, too).

Two LC from 2 of Universal's horror cycle hey day from the 1930's. Both look to be in really nice shape, and frankly are quite the lookers (and both have a nice price tag, to boot!)  ;D


First is from Frankenstein (1931). Todd refers to it as the "Creation" card. (Price -- $12,000.00 USD)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/FRA_zpsofr8alyc.jpg)


The Black Cat (1934). According to Todd, this is one of only 2 scene cards that feature both Lugosi and Karloff. (Price -- $15,000.00 USD)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/BC_zpsgbsl3kku.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on February 24, 2016, 04:57:18 AM
^ I hope the second one is being advertised as unfolded or previously folded


Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 24, 2016, 12:31:54 PM
^ I hope the second one is being advertised as unfolded or previously folded




Tis neither.  ;D

Per Todd:

"The small blue line and the red line are in the printing.  I've seen this on some other cards from THE BLACK CAT."

So that would be a light touch up job, if someone wanted them covered over or at least diminished.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 50s on February 24, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
So the card being sold is a photocopy of the real thing?!



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 24, 2016, 03:23:16 PM
You didnt know?  8)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on July 17, 2016, 08:37:21 PM
Campaign ad for Universal's first Wolf Man...

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/d9f25980dcdd415b306aacb209e7fae9/tumblr_nqy75hXky11u7t71ro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 17, 2016, 11:41:19 PM
Campaign ad for Universal's first Wolf Man...

(http://66.media.tumblr.com/d9f25980dcdd415b306aacb209e7fae9/tumblr_nqy75hXky11u7t71ro1_500.jpg)

What a great image and find there, Ted.  thumbsup.gif

And welcome back... good to see you in this neck of the woods again, too.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 18, 2016, 12:11:15 AM
for comparison to the 3sh

too bad someone used black marker on the back for Karloff's hair

sorry for all the reflection stuff

(http://www.comicbidz.com/cgc_setsale/apf/raven.jpg)

I agree, Rich. That "dye" job is pretty extreme.  ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 03, 2017, 01:30:12 AM
I couldnt resist posting this:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56630616/APF/RusselHarmon/New%20folder/Photo%20Nov%2007%2C%201%2000%2012%20PM.png)

Jason... lemme guess...

The Invisible Man?

 ;D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: jedgerley on May 03, 2017, 02:47:58 AM
Good one! I believe I posted The Drums of Jeopardy but, as you know, all my links disappeared.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 03, 2017, 12:42:20 PM
Good one! I believe I posted The Drums of Jeopardy but, as you know, all my links disappeared.

If that's the one you posted there, its a GREAT image. Super colorful and detailed from top to bottom -- literally.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 03, 2017, 02:46:45 PM
The Mummy (1932)

First release Belgian poster.  bed1 bed1

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=6000;image)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: guest4955 on June 05, 2017, 07:42:06 PM
Some superb posters in this thread!  bed1

Can't believe nobody has posted the Frankie 6S, so I'll do it:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/frank_zpsfzseedya.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/frank_zpsfzseedya.jpg.html)

Jon Warren wrote:

[W]e sold the [Royal Theater] collection. We recouped our investment within six months. My investors were extremely happy. They all now liked movie posters very much. Steve Fishler liked them so much he started collecting them. He has amassed quite a collection since that day in Tennessee when we decided to become partners and buy a collection in Canada. His collection includes a little poster we fondly call the Frankenstein six sheet.

How he came to own that six sheet is another story, quite different from the version we have seen on television. The poster was not found in a locked suitcase.

But that's another story. And I'm not at liberty to divulge, unfortunately, for it's a great yarn and spans the globe.


(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder990/400x/60391990.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 10, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
Posting this here, too, with regard to The Mummy US OS that was auctioned back in 1997.

And I just emailed Todd and asked him about the condition of that poster.

TBC.



The Mummy OS that sold for $453K back in 1997 was from the collection of Todd Feiertag, and I dont think his copy was heavily damaged and restored. (I'll email him and ask, for verification). At the time it was auctioned, 2 copies were known to exist, so maybe it was the other copy that needed a lot of restoration. (I seem to remember reading one was found sandwiched under some other posters on a barn wall or something similar, and was heavily damaged due to exposure, moisture etc).


Here's an article from The Deseret News, dated March 2, 1997, after the Sotheby's auction was over, giving more details:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/546423/MUMMY-POSTER-COSTS-A-TREASURE.html

Another copy is also held/housed by The Los Angeles Public Library. It happened to be on display, along with many other vintage OS that they have, when I visited there a handful of years ago.. and to see this in person was stunning and mind blowing.  bed1

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/The_Mummy_1932_film_poster.jpg)



Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: dpcarlson on June 11, 2017, 09:44:13 AM
FRANKENSTEIN (47RR) Insert
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on June 11, 2017, 12:58:06 PM
At the time it was auctioned, 2 copies were known to exist, so maybe it was the other copy that needed a lot of restoration.

The LA Museum copy was certainly known at the time, so not sure why they would say only two known to exist then (and their copy was quite nice). The 3rd copy known at that time of course was the Borst copy, which originally belonged to Bob Burns and can also be seen in It Came From Bob's Basement, when he used it as part of a display. It was also in excellent condition (or Fine condition so Bruce can understand).
The 4th copy that turned up was one which required some moderate/significant restoration, and the before and after pic was posted in the auction catalog when it sold.  There may or may not be a 5th copy now, but at four or even five, it certainly remains a rarity in high demand.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2017, 01:01:39 PM
I just heard back from Todd Feiertag, and he said that aside from pin holes in the corners, his copy of The Mummy OS (the 1997 Sotheby's auction copy) was in wonderful condition, with no restoration at all.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
FRANKENSTEIN (47RR) Insert

Would love to see this one in color, too.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=6461;image)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: dpcarlson on June 11, 2017, 08:16:05 PM
Would love to see this one in color, too.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=6461;image)

For clarity, this insert is printed in B&W - just like the movie!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 11, 2017, 09:11:38 PM
Cool.

Like Realart did for their 1947RR insert for Dracula, which is a really great looking poster, too.  thumbup

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=6469;image)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on June 12, 2017, 01:46:50 AM
Cool.
Like Realart did for their 1947RR insert for Dracula, which is a really great looking poster, too.  thumbup

That's not Realart - It's Universal.
But yes, in 47, only the one-sheets and three sheets were in color, the lobbies, halves, and inserts were duotone.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on June 12, 2017, 02:11:32 AM
That's not Realart - It's Universal.
But yes, in 47, only the one-sheets and three sheets were in color, the lobbies, halves, and inserts were duotone.

Thanks, Sean.

How was it that Universal retained this title when so many of their other horror greats had been passed on to Realart by that time?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on June 18, 2017, 01:51:29 PM
Thanks, Sean.

How was it that Universal retained this title when so many of their other horror greats had been passed on to Realart by that time?

Actually, none of Universal's horror titles had been sold to Realart at this time (1947).
Realart started operations in 1948, mainly to distribute Universal's entire back catalog (not just the horror pieces) as new Universal-International head William Goetz had made the decision to concentrate on new pictures and ignore their back catalog.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on July 01, 2017, 04:51:35 PM
3 sheet for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943)   bed1

Todd F's copy for sale, hence the watermarks on the image.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=6742;image)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on October 18, 2017, 06:49:43 PM
While not a poster, still fitting imagery. According to the website I located this image on, this stereo pair of photos of Lon Chaney as the Phantom was a rejected image.

It's one Ive Never seen before, and as this is one of my all time favorite films, Im always on the lookout for images I havent seen before. Plus, its a very in focus image and almost looks like a bit of a candid shot.  bed1

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=7535;image)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: brude on October 20, 2017, 01:06:12 AM
Great Lon Sr. pics, Jeff.

(http://78.media.tumblr.com/3d2dc81ed09ef722d021cb9428aa7be4/tumblr_moqdkfQxlb1qaun7do1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on October 20, 2017, 01:05:40 PM
Looks great in 3D jeff, I think someone on CHFB bought a fair few, lucky bugger..
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 06, 2018, 01:31:12 PM
I wonder if the Phantom's "gargoyle warning device" that's mounted on the wall above Chaney's head, still exists, sitting on some dusty shelf in the Universal prop department. What a great piece of silent film history that would be to have and display. 

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5163.0;attach=7535;image)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on February 08, 2018, 09:25:50 PM
I wonder if the Phantom's "gargoyle warning device" that's mounted on the wall above Chaney's head, still exists, sitting on some dusty shelf in the Universal prop department. What a great piece of silent film history that would be to have and display. 

I wonder if Uncle Forry/4SJ ever saw it?  He certainly saw unimaginable treasures of early Universal.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 08, 2018, 09:45:07 PM
When I worked at Universal, I should have wandered over to the prop dept and asked if I could wander (with a photo in hand of that item). Im sure they would have obliged.

I did that on several occasions when Stage 28 (the Phantom stage) was still standing, and got to explore it all to my heart's content. That was a thrill to remember, too.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on February 08, 2018, 10:27:26 PM
Dang, erik1925!!!!   You were living the dream wandering around the Phantom set.  Would enjoy hearing those stories over drinks someday.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2018, 12:42:43 AM
Gotta wonder what was being sipped on (or smoked  potroll.gif) when the imagery for this 50's RR UK quad for Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man was selected.

I'd love to know how these images were picked in the first place. Using Glenn Strange's incarnation of the Monster and Mr Hyde from Abbott & Costello Meet Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde?

(But at least one monster is right -- a Frankie).   ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/sHQla0M.jpg)

Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on February 25, 2018, 06:26:30 AM
That poster is early 60's Jeff, not 50's..
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 25, 2018, 02:19:37 PM
Makes more sense, then, Paul. Likely the art dept was enjoying a nice tot and puff, when those pics were pulled and chosen for the poster.

(Either that, or as is more likely the case, those creating this poster hadn't a clue). ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on February 25, 2018, 04:28:42 PM
Definitely the latter.....
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on February 26, 2018, 12:39:47 PM
It makes for an interesting scenario. On the one hand it's a 60s RR quad for Frank Meets the Wolf Man. But with the incorrect images, one would have a time reconciling those with the title.

In one way, it makes for an curious poster.

And a similar image faux pas was done on a Belgian RR for Frankenstein, when they also used a Glenn Strange image of the Monster front and center.

(https://i.imgur.com/G127itB.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on February 26, 2018, 02:35:36 PM
It makes for an interesting scenario. On the one hand it's a 60s RR quad for Frank Meets the Wolf Man. But with the incorrect images, one would have a time reconciling those with the title.

In one way, it makes for an curious poster.

And a similar image faux pas was done on a Belgian RR for Frankenstein, when they also used a Glenn Strange image of the Monster front and center.

(https://i.imgur.com/G127itB.jpg)



The Belgian poster image also looks a bit like Tim Curry to me!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: rumble on February 26, 2018, 04:08:04 PM
A transsexual transvestite from Transylvania? ;)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: erik1925 on April 01, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
Tho not produced at Universal, this MGM flicker with Bela Lugosi, Lionel Atwill and Lionel Barrymore & directed by Tod Browning, certainly deserves a place of its own, too.   :)

The US OS for Mark of the Vampire (1935)

(https://i.imgur.com/tDmagga.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on January 20, 2019, 05:48:39 PM
The Invisible Ray was released 83 years ago on this date in 1936!  I've had in my hands two different copies of this 1946 French affiche size poster, and I've seen a not so good image of what looked to maybe be a third copy.  This copy pictured looked to me by far to be in the best condition.  It's on linen, though with no restoration.  I was really glad to get it in Bruce's auction about a year ago.  Happy Birthday to The Invisible Ray and Karloff's hair perm!  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 29, 2020, 12:38:25 PM
Anyone ever seen this (Italian) one before?

(https://www.astebolaffi.it/images/lot/545/319.jpg)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on January 29, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Anyone ever seen this (Italian) one before?


I don't believe I have, Chris.  Did you buy it?  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: CSM on January 29, 2020, 02:09:06 PM
I don't believe I have, Chris.  Did you buy it?  Okie

I wish  8)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on January 29, 2020, 10:42:14 PM
I don't believe I have, Chris.  Did you buy it?  Okie

I think there is still about 3 weeks to save for it.
I know it's mid 30s and not 32, but I think the estimate is very aggressive. we will see.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on January 29, 2020, 11:47:19 PM
I think there is still about 3 weeks to save for it.
I know it's mid 30s and not 32, but I think the estimate is very aggressive. we will see.

I think perhaps 80+ percent too aggressive on the low estimate? Though surprises abound, eh Crow?   I was hoping Chris had snagged it.  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on June 17, 2020, 12:13:00 AM
Just adding to this Universal Horror thread the Son of Dracula three sheet that was recently reheaded.  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on June 17, 2020, 10:25:19 PM
Niiiiiice
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on June 17, 2020, 10:46:39 PM
Niiiiiice

Thanks, Matias!  I really enjoyed finding the top portion of this poster and having it restored.  How are you doing down south?  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: paul waines on June 18, 2020, 11:27:19 AM
Exceedingly Nice...
 
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on June 18, 2020, 11:57:51 PM
Exceedingly Nice...

Thanks, Paul!  I'm just so happy it all came together.  The hunt for Chaney's head was a great adventure.  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on July 17, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
Two monsters meet: Dracula via Poland and The Bride of Frankenstein via Spain.  Best, Okie


(https://i.postimg.cc/CdLY4YXm/Dracula-Poland-and-Bride-of-Frankenstein-Spain.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CdLY4YXm)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on July 17, 2021, 09:30:13 PM
Also, looking for the small bottom sheet for this Son of Dracula six sheet. This photo is taking up most of our king size bed.  Best, Okie


(https://i.postimg.cc/w3ftXwfR/Son-of-Dracula-6-sht-top-small.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3ftXwfR)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on December 05, 2021, 01:12:04 PM
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may ravage the breast of the new fallen snow when the autumn moon is bright!

Happy Holiday Season! Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/ThY9h60t/Drac-Wof-Okie-full-moon-holiday-2021-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThY9h60t)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Starling on December 05, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Incredible! Major paper right there. Love to see them framed up.  Enjoy the heck out of them! bed1
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Antoine1973 on December 05, 2021, 10:46:30 PM
Congrats Okie!  They look great framed and side by side.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Hicks77 on December 05, 2021, 11:48:43 PM
Awesome Okie! Congratulations, they look great  thumbsup.gif  What's the poster behind the tree ?
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: redman on December 06, 2021, 02:06:14 PM
strong arms!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Undead on December 06, 2021, 04:43:56 PM
Love that Dracula Okie. One of my favorites and high on my want list.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on December 06, 2021, 08:51:37 PM
Thanks Starling, Antoine, Hicks, Redman, and Undead!

Hicks: Good eye. The poster behind the tree is the 1935 Argentinean one sheet for The Bride of Frankenstein. It's pictured in the first post of my Collecting With Friends thread here
 http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,12726.msg229243.html#msg229243

Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Hicks77 on December 06, 2021, 11:37:13 PM
Sweet  :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on December 08, 2021, 11:54:10 PM
Yeah, a little Karloff Christmas Tree peekaboo!  Okie
Sweet  :D
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Tob on December 10, 2021, 06:57:01 AM
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may ravage the breast of the new fallen snow when the autumn moon is bright!

Happy Holiday Season! Okie

(https://i.postimg.cc/ThY9h60t/Drac-Wof-Okie-full-moon-holiday-2021-Copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThY9h60t)

Very nice Okie, those two are a real Christmas treat!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on December 19, 2021, 02:36:30 PM
Thanks, Tob!  I think I may be getting longer in the tooth than Lugosi in Drac.  Okie
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on December 24, 2021, 04:09:31 PM
My seven year old twins love watching the Uni horrors (we started with A&C Meet Frank), and the favorite monster period for my youngest is the Frankenstein Monster (the oldest loves Dracula  and Wolf Man about even).  So from a recent purchase I made, I said they could pick five cards out for Christmas presents to start their own collection, and these are the five they picked. Not bad.


(https://i.postimg.cc/gwZBgshJ/20211222-112419.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwZBgshJ)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: okiehawker on December 24, 2021, 05:31:16 PM
God bless those little ones, Crow!  That's a nice collection for age 7 to 70!  Okie

My seven year old twins love watching the Uni horrors (we started with A&C Meet Frank), and the favorite monster period for my youngest is the Frankenstein Monster (the oldest loves Dracula  and Wolf Man about even).  So from a recent purchase I made, I said they could pick five cards out for Christmas presents to start their own collection, and these are the five they picked. Not bad.


(https://i.postimg.cc/gwZBgshJ/20211222-112419.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwZBgshJ)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Neo on October 17, 2023, 02:37:36 PM
many posters for the movie that sadly haven't survived

How many of the styles are known to exist?

After a few minutes of research, for the original 1935 release of the film in the USA, it looks like one Style D one sheet, one Style E one sheet, a handful of inserts (one of which is currently for sale by Cinemasterpieces for $99k), at least one half sheet, window card, and a few title and lobby cards, pressbooks, and heralds, are known to exist.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53266136160_8d15174570_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9WSvW)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53266136180_e34ea34043_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9WSwh)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53265947393_b3a322f505_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9VUpk)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53265947398_5a60089b96_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9VUpq)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53266136170_f886e8906a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9WSw7)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53264775347_223d8a1cc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9PTZD)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on October 18, 2023, 12:39:10 AM
Let's not forget the Amazing Style C One-sheet.
There are also at least a couple of jumbo window cards, and at least three of each style half sheet (the other style looks like the TC of course), and the beautiful snipe of the Monster carrying the Bride (looks like the art from the style B 24-sheet).


(https://i.postimg.cc/62z2Pfr7/Bride-of-Frank.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62z2Pfr7)
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on October 18, 2023, 12:47:47 AM
I think the most amazing thing about the Bride material (heck, this is true for most of the major Universal material) is that 30 years ago, almost none of this was known to exist.
There was the one copy of the "E" style one-sheet (the red advance that Todd owns), but the other two styles were not known at the time, and no half-sheets were known, and only half as many inserts that we know about today.
Very similar stories for Dracula, Frankenstein, The Mummy, and the Invisible Man.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: 110x75 on October 18, 2023, 08:47:41 AM
Let's not forget the Amazing Style C One-sheet.
There are also at least a couple of jumbo window cards, and at least three of each style half sheet (the other style looks like the TC of course), and the beautiful snipe of the Monster carrying the Bride (looks like the art from the style B 24-sheet).


(https://i.postimg.cc/62z2Pfr7/Bride-of-Frank.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62z2Pfr7)

This has to be one of the most beautiful posters ever created. It has it all!!
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: Neo on October 18, 2023, 09:34:16 AM
Impressive that you know which formats and all are known to have been discovered.  I read about the style c one sheet but didn't search enough for confirmation or a photo.  Thanks for adding it and the additional info.  It really is amazing that so much has been found relatively recently.  Maybe there's potential that more stuff and films that have been lost to time could still be found.
Title: Re: Universal Horror posters
Post by: crowzilla on October 18, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Impressive that you know which formats and all are known to have been discovered.  I read about the style c one sheet but didn't search enough for confirmation or a photo.  Thanks for adding it and the additional info.  It really is amazing that so much has been found relatively recently.  Maybe there's potential that more stuff and films that have been lost to time could still be found.

Thanks, back when I was dealing in this stuff I kept detailed lists of what was known (and who owned it).
The Style C is really beautiful in person - this one came from the Latrobe find. It was amazing to see unrestored one-sheets for all three of the Karloff Frankenstein films surface at once, and even more amazing to think that no one even bid the reserve ($150K) on the one-sheets of the first two films at the auction.
I guess that last Frankenstein one-sheet that was offered was another new discovery (and from PA again), so always hope that more unknown pieces turn up. Would love to see a Mummy insert of half turn up one day, they look beautiful in the pressbook.