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Movie & TV Talk => General Discussion => Topic started by: Juli on July 03, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
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I was thinking about the popularity and staying power of older movies after reading the thread about whether silent movie posters will still be collectable in the future. Silent movies such as those from the 1910s and 1920s seemed to be less talked about and viewed nowadays. I am wondering as time goes on if they will be forgotten and less watched? I was also wondering if movies like Frankenstein, Gone With The Wind and the Wizard of Oz will fade into history as time goes on? Do you think people in 100 years will still be watching these movies? Will movies even still be a popular form of entertainment? Do you think movies will stay around like novels/books do?
Just would like to hear your thoughts.
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Inevitably viewership and acclaim will decrease with time.
The true classics like GWTW, Frankenstein etc will still be 'known' but they will not be appreciated on a passionate level - they will be treated more academically as cultural artifacts...
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Agreed. And the ones that aren't in the AFI top 100 will tend to be forgotten.
Yes, we all remember It's a Wonderful Life and Citizen Kane, but a lot of films I treasure from the '30s-'50s are becoming lost. That includes treasures like It Happened One Night, If I Had a Million, Monkey Business, You Can't Take it With You, Harvey, Arsenic and Old Lace, etc.
How many of you under 35 have ever seen a Thin Man movie? The Topper series? How about The Big Sleep? Catch 22 or Slaughterhouse 5? Stagecoach or The Cheyenne Social Club? Just goes on and on.
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I used to think that movie stars had found the secret to immortality.
They would always exist on film.
Sadly, the vast majority of them fade away because new generations of moviegoers just don't have the patience to devote to the past.
How many of them have even heard of Clark Gable, Myrna Loy, Ward Bond, Gary Cooper, etc., etc., etc.?
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I agree. :'(
Oh well. Their loss.
I think I will go watch the Big Sleep again.
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I agree. :'(
Oh well. Their loss.
I think I will go watch the Big Sleep again.
A VERY good choice!
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How many of you under 35 have ever seen a Thin Man movie? The Topper series? How about The Big Sleep? Catch 22 or Slaughterhouse 5? Stagecoach or The Cheyenne Social Club? Just goes on and on.
How true, Jay.
I guess it is up to us as parents to turn our kids on to the better things in life -- the classics.
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How true, Jay.
I guess it is up to us as parents to turn our kids on to the better things in life -- the classics.
Sadly, I think some have tried - as soon as it becomes apparent the movie is in black and white - there is no chance!
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Sadly, I think some of tried - as soon as it becomes apparent the movie is in black and white - there is no chance!
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Think about how many SILENT film stars even film fans can name? The average joe would be lucky to come up with 3.
But same can be said for anything, the lucky few get remembered, even successful people in their times can be forgotten.
Same with Art, or writing, or science, or anything.
I was talking the other day about this, and how James Dan and Marylyn Monroe are known by everyone, and well all things considered, neither were very prolific (obviously) or IMHO super talented. Then fast forward, I wonder if Kurt Cobain would be considered such an "important" musician if he didn't die, ffwd again and we see the same with Amy Winehouse.
Quite sad really. Or maybe it isn't. Maybe in 100 years films will be an archaic medium, that only super nerdy history freaks watch and it will be like Morris dancing or something.
Am I sad we don't remember the worlds greatest Jousters?
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Sadly, I think some of tried - as soon as it becomes apparent the movie is in black and white - there is no chance!
Whenever I recommend a film to my sister (who is older than I) first thing she asks is ..."It's not one those crap black and white films you like is it?" Forget about trying to expand her horizons with forgein language or silent films. She nearly took me out a few years back when I recommended No Country For Old Men because it (in her words not mine) "didn't have a proper ending!"
I tried with the nephews when they were younger, and failed...it has to be all action and CGI these days to retain even a small amount of attention.
However, the older one is now coming to me with questions about some of the "classics", wanting to see them...when I say classics I mean stuff from the 70s and 80s.... so sad. I recently gave him Spielberg's Duel to watch...he couldn't get past not knowing who the driver of the truck was. :(
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Nope, they will not be forgotten, just their audience will shrink.
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You're right Ari - "it's better to burn out than to fade away" - especially during corporate records' fiscal year
Oh and same goes for Hollywood (think The Dark Knight)
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the dark night was SOoooo like yesterday.... oh wait.
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Q: Will older movies be forgotten?
A: NO
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Q: Will older movies be forgotten?
A: NO
What about when you pass on to the great poster find in the sky Rosa? ;)
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What about when you pass on to the great poster find in the sky Rosa? ;)
Q: Will older movies be forgotten?
A: [ADDEDENDUM]NO. THINK DINOSAURS.
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Agreed. And the ones that aren't in the AFI top 100 will tend to be forgotten.
Yes, we all remember It's a Wonderful Life and Citizen Kane, but a lot of films I treasure from the '30s-'50s are becoming lost. That includes treasures like It Happened One Night, If I Had a Million, Monkey Business, You Can't Take it With You, Harvey, Arsenic and Old Lace, etc.
How many of you under 35 have ever seen a Thin Man movie? The Topper series? How about The Big Sleep? Catch 22 or Slaughterhouse 5? Stagecoach or The Cheyenne Social Club? Just goes on and on.
Great reply Jay! I remember 20 years ago when I moved to this little mid-west town. I had been going to revival and art-house theaters for over 25 years (seeing every well-reviewed movie) and I thought that my days of doing so were over. But I went into a local video store (remember those?) a few days after I arrived, and I was amazed to find a section marked "Classics"!
But when I went over there, it only had movies like Rocky and Rambo (and nothing pre-1970)!
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Q: Will older movies be forgotten?
A: [ADDEDENDUM]NO. THINK DINOSAURS.
Actually, that feeds into my earlier post. If I ask a kid about dinosaurs, he will tell me about the T-Rex, the Brontosaurus and possibly the Velociraptor (Thanks to Jurrasic Park). That's the same as the top 3 films I mentioned in my earlier post. The thouusands of other species are either lost or only studied by a few.
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Actually, that feeds into my earlier post. If I ask a kid about dinosaurs, he will tell me about the T-Rex, the Brontosaurus and possibly the Velociraptor (Thanks to Jurrasic Park). That's the same as the top 3 films I mentioned in my earlier post. The thouusands of other species are either lost or only studied by a few.
Good Point. But I'd think that applies to any film, old and new. It is rather difficult keeping track of every single film. I personally do not think that old movies will be lost forever. I hope not. But likewise, I don't think every good one might be remembered either thou it should not mean that they would be forever lost.
Like dinosaurs, at least people will know they existed and are there to be celebrated, even if that means a couple are known and only enjoyed by few. A couple could prompt them to research and bring more back to life. :)
Rosa
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Don't be fooled, they are already forgotten. The culprit: People just don't care.
A few months ago, I went to a wedding in Tucson, AZ. The most boring city in the world. I saw Django Unchained there. When I left the theater, two 20-something guys were walking ahead of me. Their conversation was: "That was okay." "Yeah. Who made it?" "A guy named Tarantino" "Has he done anything before?" "I think he directed that other movie, a long time ago, Pulp Fiction, I think." "Oh yeah, I remember, that was okay too." And out they went.
Now, if people don't know who Tarantino is, how do you expect them to know a Capra, a Lubitsch or a Wilder... They have heard of Hitchcock, to be sure, but can they name one movie he's directed?
I think that's how most people see movies. There will always be cinema students (or students of cinema), researchers or cinema lovers like us, but to the rest of the world, cinema is just a way to spend a few hours on a rainy Saturday afternoon.
T
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Very well put T, that's my thoughts to a T...
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To be fair, there is also a change in style and tastes over the years.
When I watch a comedy from the '30s, I am always amazed at how quickly the movie ends after the resolution of the plot point. Usually 30 seconds to wrap it up.
My 20 year old son has watched a couple of the early Bond films with me. He comments they are boring and nothing ever happens. Exactly opposite of my feelings where the modern action films have no plot, just non-stop action. So you could say that the film reflects the period and you can't expect the average Joe to appreciate something from before his time.
I taught a scout merit badge on cinematography. The kids decided to do a mystery, so I started discussing noir style. I told the kids to go watch The maltese falcon during the week and we would discuss. When they came back, it was like I had asked them to eat razor blades.
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I think movies and movie stars are generational. When that generation dies, so do the movies and movie stars that inspired that generation. And on it goes. The rest is left to us, crazy collectors, and historians.
T
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What you need to think is, if no one knows Tarantino, or cares what films he made now. Who's going to buy your Pulp Fiction Poster
in the future... :o
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I don't buy to sell. Tho clearly I hope I am not buying rubbish, er.. eyeroll
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What you need to think is, if no one knows Tarantino, or cares what films he made now. Who's going to buy your Pulp Fiction Poster
in the future... :o
I don't care, Paul. I buy to collect and collecting makes me happy. That's the extent of my vision. What happens after that... It can all go up in flames, as far as I'm concerned.
T
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What you need to think is, if no one knows Tarantino, or cares what films he made now. Who's going to buy your Pulp Fiction Poster
in the future... :o
Yep, which is why those cowboy 1 sheets that used to go for big bucks are now fish wrappers. Ditto musicals
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Am I sad we don't remember the worlds greatest Jousters?
What!? How could you possibly forget that famous squire of the garrison of Toury castle? Spring of 1380? Gauvain Micaille? C'mon... he was mentioned in the Chronique du bon duc Loys de Bourbon for crying out loud! That's like the Sports Illustrated of the mid to late 1300's. Hot magazine back then... anyhow, his famous quote? Went down in the history books it did and I can tell you that Joachim Cator thought very differently about good ol' Gauvain after that spear to the thigh he took...
'Is there among you any gentleman who for the love of his lady is willing to try with me some feat of arms? If there should be any such, here I am, quite ready to sally forth completely armed and mounted, to tilt three courses with the lance, to give three blows with the battle axe, and three strokes with the dagger. Now look, you English, if there be none among you in love.'
Man those were the days. But I digress. Carry on, er, sally forth all.
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^ is funny . ;D
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What's a movie?
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Lol, it's like, ya no a kinda QT txt bt Lngr & like totes bore ROTFLMAO :) <3
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indeed whats a movie... I haven't used my bluray player since I bought it 6 or 7 years ago. Went to play a new Bluray (Samsara) and it does didly squat (nothing). I guess it needs a firmware upgrade since I bought it back then
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I still haven't even seen a bluray played.
Bt if I had a player, it would be used daily.
I do have three DVD players, one is a VHS/DVD combo.
At least three super 8mm projectors, gathering dust.
A hard disk/DVD recorder.
And a borrowed television set.
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I have 5 Blu-ray players, and one or all get used every every day, but I guess it depends on how much you enjoy film.
If we're doing lists, I have:-
5 Blu ray players
3 dvd players, one a recorder
1 portable dvd player
2 VHS players
1 Betamax player
6 Super 8mm projectors
2 duel (super/standard) 8mm projectors
1 9.5mm projector
11 16mm projectors
And two digital projectors, one full HD
And a partridge in a pear tree... :D
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I have 5 Blu-ray players, and one or all get used every every day, but I guess it depends on how much you enjoy film.
If we're doing lists, I have:-
5 Blu ray players
3 dvd players, one a recorder
1 portable dvd player
2 VHS players
1 Betamax player
6 Super 8mm projectors
2 duel (super/standard) 8mm projectors
1 9.5mm projector
11 16mm projectors
And two digital projectors, one full HD
And a partridge in a pear tree... :D
What, no laserdisc? I couldn't live without my laserdisc player as I still have several hundred titles I can't/haven't upgraded.
So my list is
1 - SVHS VCR
2 Laserdisc players
3 BluRay players
2 HD-DVD players (couldn't resist those $1 titles during the closeout)
and a lot of misc stuff in various forms, like BR players in laptops, DVD players in TV sets, etc.
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What, no laserdisc? I couldn't live without my laserdisc player as I still have several hundred titles I can't/haven't upgraded.
So my list is
1 - SVHS VCR
2 Laserdisc players
3 BluRay players
2 HD-DVD players (couldn't resist those $1 titles during the closeout)
and a lot of misc stuff in various forms, like BR players in laptops, DVD players in TV sets, etc.
You know i`ve never viewed a laserdisc,these things where outside of the family budget...
How good where they compared to beta-max and vhs?
Stew
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You know i`ve never viewed a laserdisc,these things where outside of the family budget...
How good where they compared to beta-max and vhs?
Stew
Consider, too, Stew, that the quality depends on the source material. I have some laserdics of some of the Universal horror films that were made from a pre-restoration print or the new, re-mastered versions. Dings, scratches or jumps that were on the 35MM print are present on the discs, too.
The quality was such that sometimes the film flaws were even more evident, if a poor(er) print was used to create the disc. 8)
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The quality was such that sometimes the film flaws were even more evident, if a poor(er) print was used to create the disc. 8)
Sometimes when i watch a poor transfer..i enjoy the movie more...wierd
Stew
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Sometimes when i watch a poor transfer..i enjoy the movie more...wierd
Stew
Me too.. thumbup and sometimes, that is all that's available.
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Consider, too, Stew, that the quality depends on the source material. I have some laserdics of some of the Universal horror films that were made from a pre-restoration print or the new, re-mastered versions. Dings, scratches or jumps that were on the 35MM print are present on the discs, too.
The quality was such that sometimes the film flaws were even more evident, if a poor(er) print was used to create the disc. 8)
That really isn't fair. The quality of the original source material is irrelevant to the quality of the media. Face it, VHS had exactly the same problems and then some. Also consider that the studios were not putting a lot of effort into restorations at that time.
To answer Stewart's question, I place Laserdisc well above VHS, but below DVD. It was a 480i analog format with the chroma signal integrated with luminance, just like broadcast. SVHS would exceed it in color rendering, but not resolution. Most later discs had digital soundtracks, and some would have DTS. Others had Dolby Digital, but these required an outboard AC-3 adapter that is unobtanium. Thus the audio is "good for its time", but not up to modern standards. It is mostly dolby pro-logic surround.
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That really isn't fair. The quality of the original source material is irrelevant to the quality of the media. Face it, VHS had exactly the same problems and then some. Also consider that the studios were not putting a lot of effort into restorations at that time.
To answer Stewart's question, I place Laserdisc well above VHS, but below DVD. It was a 480i analog format with the chroma signal integrated with luminance, just like broadcast. SVHS would exceed it in color rendering, but not resolution. Most later discs had digital soundtracks, and some would have DTS. Others had Dolby Digital, but these required an outboard AC-3 adapter that is unobtanium. Thus the audio is "good for its time", but not up to modern standards. It is mostly dolby pro-logic surround.
Correct, the studios were not putting any real effort into restorations at that time.
My point was that the better image quality on laserdic was such that these issues could sometimes be more readily seen that on VHS, especially if a VHS transfer was not of the highest standard.
My line of thinking was equating it to the sound quality on CDs. Because CD sound quality is so much better than vinyl or cassette tape, CDs can reveal limitations of the original source material. Even more so when material has been digitally remastered. That is why this disclaimer was very often found on CD cases.
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I bought a laserdisc today - I don't even have a player! It was cheap and I love the cover art.
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I never had a laser disc. But have watched them and agree quality was at that time better than VHS and below DVD.
My issue is sometimes the opposite, i like watching restored versions, blu rays but sometimes it ruins the film for me. I cannot watch GWTW on blry, it is just like watching a painting. Yes on DVD as all the painted images look just right.
The African Queen and The Quiet Man blu rays are perfect bl ray restorations. You can see every single detail, in my op are worth the money and the time.
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I never went laser disc, didn't like the thought of changing sides part way through... Though I did buy Wayne's Alamo on laser-disc as it's the only complete version available. Just need a cheap player to watch it... eyeroll
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didn't know that.about Alamo.. and I am a HUGE John Wayne fan. you must be able to find a cheap player on eBay or Amazon.. worth watching shethinks
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I still haven't even seen a bluray played.
Bt if I had a player, it would be used daily.
Ari you Greek wannabe, just but one already. ;)
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I know the fellow who runs the Wayne society, he was telling me about it. Over twenty mins not released before or since.
I keep looking every now and then, but still haven't picked one up, and I'm dieing to see it in all it's glory. It's the full Todd AO roadshow version... may have another look this weekend.
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Ari you Greek wannabe, just but one already. ;)
Yeah I know, I haven't had the cash spare, but I will soon, and down to $80 for all region players here now, getting cheaper and cheaper.
As for DVD players soon you'll get a player free when you buy a movie.
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Maybe you know this, but BE CAREFUL with all region Blu Ray players. Most of them can only play all region DVD but the blu ray itself is not all region. I know that for a fact (yes, bought one had to give it away. useless),
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Ahh yeah it's ok, I'm on a movie WATECERS forum also, and know the el cheapo one in Australia is done for all DVDs and has a button to change for diff regions of bluray on the remote.
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Maybe you know this, but BE CAREFUL with all region Blu Ray players. Most of them can only play all region DVD but the blu ray itself is not all region. I know that for a fact (yes, bought one had to give it away. useless),
Im about to order a blu ray player which is both dvd region free and bluray region free. It is the Oppo 105AU (http://www.opposhop.com.au/oppo-bdp-105au.html) and has excellent reviews (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=204634). A bit pricey but is very close to an all in one component (apart from an amplifier)
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Question Steve,
Why?
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Question Steve,
Why?
Haha, good question. I recently got all my hifi/video/tv gear out of storage to listen to as I am on the computer too much. I might see what all the fuss is about some of the movies you people mention. If I can get my stereo to output some good bass first, then that might stop me falling asleep in the movies
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I bought a laserdisc today - I don't even have a player! It was cheap and I love the cover art.
I've done that.
It is a bad disease we folks have.
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but a lot of films I treasure from the '30s-'50s are becoming lost. That includes treasures like It Happened One Night, If I Had a Million, Monkey Business, You Can't Take it With You, Harvey, Arsenic and Old Lace, etc.
How many of you under 35 have ever seen a Thin Man movie? The Topper series? How about The Big Sleep? Catch 22 or Slaughterhouse 5? Stagecoach or The Cheyenne Social Club? Just goes on and on.
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well, I'm in my mid 20's, and have ~1160 ratings on my flixster account, and I've only seen one of those you listed (Catch-22, thought it was decent, but a mess, never read the book though).
the sheer volume of material out there... it's hard enough keeping up with current releases if you're not an avid movie watcher, and I think for some folks in my age range there have to be good movie choices made by whomever to introduce the different genres or time periods.
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There is lots of movies, I do disagree that keeping up with current ones is hard, or rather, I tend to let 99% slip by, except ones I feel I need to see on the big screen, which isn't often.
The way I go about t is, steady stream of older stuff, leave newer stuff to brew, if n a couple, few or more years its still something that sounds like it needs a watch, get to it.
For the most part, all these amazing must see movies are non entities after a while. The ones that hold up are not too many.
I really like movies from the late 60s to mid 70s and there's a lot f them, so I'd probably choose something from then, over the latest thing, although I love movies from all decades.
Depends on my mood.
My to watch pile here at home would be in the thousands, and always growing, not a list, a physical presence in my room, as more people send me movies I have to see. If they stopped making movies today, I'd never run out in my lifetime, so no big deal.
As to good movie choices for you whipper snappers, I guess the best thing is finding someone/s who have similar tastes. Some people who I like a lot recommend movies to me, and I put n the DONT BOTHER pile as I don't trust them, whereas others I know share similar taste and all I need is a heads up.
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The way I go about t is, steady stream of older stuff, leave newer stuff to brew, if n a couple, few or more years its still something that sounds like it needs a watch, get to it.
For the most part, all these amazing must see movies are non entities after a while. The ones that hold up are not too many.
That's similar to my philosophy also.
It's so easy to get caught up in the hype and run out to see the latest blockbuster only to be disappointed.
I think that most older films will fade into the past, but the real classics of cinema will eventually find their way into the home theaters of true film enthusiasts.
The good ones will live on.
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Nearly six year bump. I've actually been watching more older movies with my kids lately. Between Amazon Prime, YouTube public domain, some Netflix, Fathom Events, and our public library selection, we watch one or two old movies a month. My two youngest aged 14 and 11 really like the Marx Brothers. Musicals do well in our family, too. Anyone else having old movie luck with younger folks? Okie
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Hi Okie,
I am having a little bit of luck with my 14 year old son. When he was younger I introduced him to the old classic monster movies. In a sense he became a monster kid in the 2000's. Tonight I am taking him to Duke University to watch "The Hitch-hiker" on 35mm. I think he will have a good time.
Matthew
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Hi Okie,
I am having a little bit of luck with my 14 year old son. When he was younger I introduced him to the old classic monster movies. In a sense he became a monster kid in the 2000's. Tonight I am taking him to Duke University to watch "The Hitch-hiker" on 35mm. I think he will have a good time.
Matthew
Hi Matthew, Monster Kid 2000 sounds pretty darn cool! Duke is showing The Hitch-Hiker on 35mm! You guys sure are getting some great dad/son time along with being spoiled with a fantastic movie experience. I'm jealous! Do you think there will be discussion before or after the movie with faculty etc.? Okie
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I think it's safe to say some older movies will never be forgotten - Casablanca, Gone With The Wind, Frankenstein, etc. The problem is most younger people today simply will not sit still for a black and white movie. Forget about films with subtitles or silents. One guy I worked with knew film, but his film education started with Star Wars, and nothing before. I tried to clue him into others he might like, Forbidden Planet, Planet of the Apes, Danger Diabolik, etc. He would have none of it simply because they were "old and not realistic". Today's CGI makes everything before it stupid looking and stodgy, he said. I've come to the conclusion that todays movies have overstimulated the teenagers watching them to the point of no return. You know how when kids grow up they dismiss what their parents like, but pay close attention to what their grandparents like? Maybe that's the answer. Wait a few more years and the maybe the 1960's - 1970's degree of film appreciation will return.
One time when I had my store a girl of 12 or 13 came in and asked me if I had any pictures of Humphrey Bogart. I was amazed. I showed her a binder with about 15 nice head shots of Bogie and she bought 5 of them. Before she left I told her "you know, most kids your age have no idea who Humphrey Bogart is." She replied "well, most of the other kids are stupid". Touche! Maybe there's hope yet!
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Hi Matthew, Monster Kid 2000 sounds pretty darn cool! Duke is showing The Hitch-Hiker on 35mm! You guys sure are getting some great dad/son time along with being spoiled with a fantastic movie experience. I'm jealous! Do you think there will be discussion before or after the movie with faculty etc.? Okie
Hi Okie,
I just recently found out that Duke (nearby) is showing some classic films, and on 35mm. I just missed Detour last week. They always do an introduction and then screen the film. There is also another older theater in Durham called The Carolina that shows classic films, although not always on 35mm. My son's Christmas present to me was that he would go to three films of my choosing. I took him to the Carolina in Durham to see Baby Face for film number one. I also have on his agenda to go there and see Night Nurse, Female, and an added bonus of Shanghai Express (I traded a hockey game with him for a movie). He is enjoying the films enough that I think I am planting a seed that when he gets older he might return to the classic films himself. And I have to admit I get a great deal of enjoyment seeing the films with him. Especially when he reacts to the film at the proper times which tells me he is paying attention and is "into" the film.
Matthew
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Hi Cabman, I like your Bogie young fan ray of hope! What year do you think that was when she visited your store? I'm always surprised when people visit our house for the first time: it's the kids rather than the adults that usually notice the old movie posters on our walls. Okie
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I agree with Cabman 100%. We’ve had 4 nannies working for us since the kids were born, all between 20 and 26. One of them didn’t know who Harrison Ford was, 3 of them had never seen a black & white movies and ALL of them didn’t care for movies before they were born. I don’t blame them, there is so much entertainment nowadays and in your hands.
T
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Hi Okie,
I just recently found out that Duke (nearby) is showing some classic films, and on 35mm. I just missed Detour last week. They always do an introduction and then screen the film. There is also another older theater in Durham called The Carolina that shows classic films, although not always on 35mm. My son's Christmas present to me was that he would go to three films of my choosing. I took him to the Carolina in Durham to see Baby Face for film number one. I also have on his agenda to go there and see Night Nurse, Female, and an added bonus of Shanghai Express (I traded a hockey game with him for a movie). He is enjoying the films enough that I think I am planting a seed that when he gets older he might return to the classic films himself. And I have to admit I get a great deal of enjoyment seeing the films with him. Especially when he reacts to the film at the proper times which tells me he is paying attention and is "into" the film.
Matthew
Hi Matthew, Sounds like you made some great horse trading with your son! I wish we had all the big screen options you have to see older movies. I've rented local theatres before and have hosted old movie nights, especially around Halloween. T's nannies and Harrison Ford is pretty amazing. Maybe we can get some young, popular singers/actors to Snapchat their favorite old movies their grandparents also like?! Okie
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Okie, my store was open from 1978 to 1987, so I think the young Bogie fan came in around 1984, or thereabout. I wonder if she still has those stills.
Eatbrie, being a dyed-in-the-wool Monsterkid from the mid 60's, watching the old Universal monsters led to an appreciation of other older films. Also it was the time culturally when Bogie, the Marx Brothers, W.C. Fields, Laurel and Hardy were being appreciated, if not idolized by a new generation. Except for a few savvy kids, I don't see that today. As good as CGI is today I think it can be a disservice when it comes to younger folks watching and appreciating older films. I'd like to think I'm wrong about this but it seems the standard by which todays audience judges what film is popular has slipped way below the waterline. 98% of it is just pablum and eye candy where no thought is required to enjoy it. I pains me to think you would have to drag a kid kicking and screaming into a theatre to see HORSEFEATHERS, CITIZEN KANE, TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, THE PROFESSIONALS, HIGH NOON, or even BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN.
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Hi Cabman, Fortunately, my kids aged 19, 17, 14, and 11 have seen old movies on the big screen, including Bride of Frankenstein. Being in small town U.S.A., we do have to try a little harder to find big screen opportunities. The candies Airheads or Reese's Cups (tangent: Gal Gadot liked them for the first time on the Jimmy Fallon show) seem to have a magic appeal for our kids at the movie theatre, too! Okie
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I hear where you're coming from, Cabman, and I know a lot of folks, especially in these parts, will agree with you, but I want to try and stay away from that train of thought as much as I can. I grew up in the 80s, to me 80s movies are the best and most fun movie making has to offer. I also studied film at La Sorbonne in Paris and USC in Los Angeles, so I have a broad film education that led me to appreciate older movies, and eventually to collect some older posters. But it ends with me. I will try to convey some of my knowledge to my kids, do screenings, but if it doesn't stick, I will not push further. The world is moving forward, not backward, and I hope to never tell my kids that the world was better in my time, like my parents and grandparents did to me, because I don't believe it serves any purpose. The world was not better back then, just different. Movies were not better either. There were good and bad movies like there are today. It takes a town to make a movie, and everyone on set has the best of intentions and works as hard as they can. The results might not be up to your standards, I get that, but they are to lots of young folks. My wife works for a video game named Overwatch. It's big, really big. 40+ million players in 2 years. I don't know anything about it, but I can see how excited young people get over it. And this is great, the future.
All of this to say that the lack of interest for older movies from younger generations does not bother me in the slightest. If my kids don't like my posters, they can burn them all for all I care. This is me and this is them. My world and theirs.
T
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Older, classic and well produced movies will never die.
The crap that is produced today... all in the name of the "almighty buck" will be forgotten soon enough.
All one has to do is look online, or in stores and wonder what all these no-name titles are and when they came and went from the theaters.
As well as most of the actors of today... who are a flash on the pan... and soon to be forgotten. (thank god). :-X
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my kids aged 19, 17, 14, and 11...
That sounds like a lot of fun!!! Busy times in Okieworld. My kids are 5 (x2) and 3 months. So I have a little time before I get there, but I'm looking forward to it.
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T
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That sounds like a lot of fun!!! Busy times in Okieworld. My kids are 5 (x2) and 3 months. So I have a little time before I get there, but I'm looking forward to it.
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T, Have you had any 5 year old moments where they easily find solutions to what adults don't easily see? Lil' stinkers! Okie