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Common Poster Subjects => Valuation => Topic started by: Bruce on April 26, 2012, 06:16:58 PM
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What are posters that are auctioned over and over, and lots of dealers have them, but they go for a lot of money?
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Id say Jaws-Halloween-F13 and a few other i cant think of
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Star Wars? Pulp Fiction Lucky Strike? Breakfast at Tiffany's?
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I think Star Wars is an excellent example. Also would add to the list Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Pulp Fiction. There seem to be many available but still go for almost $100 or more.
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SPIDER MAN teaser, RESERVOIR DOGS, DARK KNIGHT (Why So Serious?), LOST IN TRANSLATION...there are many.
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James Bond (Connery era). I'm continually amazed at how much the US one sheets go for, and there seems to be no shortage of them. Plus they've released them 2 to 3 times and even some of the re-releases go for a lot. I've tried to stay away from getting into collecting Bond. Not interested in owning something everyone else has, plus in terms of the US one sheets the art is pretty bland.
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Id say Jaws-Halloween-F13 and a few other i cant think of
JAWS1975?
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(http://www.cinemit.com/images/Jaws-AnimatedPoster.gif)
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bump.
;)
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JAWS1975?
For that bump!
Jaws is the one....Everybody wants one!
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Jus' bumping the thread.. not mrJAWS75...lol
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As much as I hate to see the end of paper,stuff like this will be cool,in the future.
Anthony
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It will be interesting to see how creative (and animated) some posters will become... all a choice, of course, by the creatives... but they can do some very cool stuff already, no doubt about it, Anthony.
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Eventually,when you can just put a usb in your one sheet size frame,or lightbox,or however the tech works,I would imagine moving images like this would become the norm.A Godzilla movie is released years from now and the poster actually moves around.Godzilla walks around crushing stuff,shooting the rays....that would be beyond cool!!
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But wouldn't it require piracy to obtain the digital versions?
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I know the Alien teaser (which I do think is very cool) is advertised as being super rare, and always pulls a pretty penny, but I feel that it's not as rare as we think....just my thoughts.
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Eventually,when you can just put a usb in your one sheet size frame,or lightbox
the boxes will be controlled from a central location in LA or NY or Chicago etc and advertising will adjust automatically at all locations simultaneously
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.... with the flip of a switch..... literally.....
:D
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But wouldn't it require piracy to obtain the digital versions?
Good point.Well,it was a fun dream for a minute. :)
Anthony
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the boxes will be controlled from a central location in LA or NY or Chicago etc and advertising will adjust automatically at all locations simultaneously
Controlling the theaters.I was thinking,maybe something you could download,or something,that you could use at home.I'm a visionary. :P
Anthony
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I'm sure the studios will make the posters "available" for a small fee via iTunes. Some may even give them way on the movie's website. Who knows. After all it's free advertising for them.
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Controlling the theaters.I was thinking,maybe something you could download,or something,that you could use at home.I'm a visionary. :P
Anthony
sorry Anthony, you should expect my scenario to export itself to home viewing as well, seeing as most entertainment will be taking place here.
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The Big Sleep US OS..with or without lipstick. And the GWTW US OS 1939 or Argentine
They seem to pop up very often. .
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The Astounding She Monster one sheet has been popping up a lot recently, six times in the last year at HA. (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Ns=Time%7C1&Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&Ntt=astounding+she+monster&searchView=grid) Maybe not so rare after all.
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There is a thread over at AVS Forums by people building digital poster light boxes out of 42 - 50 inch LED TVs.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1439406/movieposter-virtual-movie-poster-display-software
After reading this I had one of those in the shower inspirations. Not likely to act on it, so I will share. Why not take one of the new 4k displays and bond a lenticular lens on it? You would then be able to create a theater display which provided changeable and animated 3D images. You could have the display change titles as you walked by, or use the same sort of changing scene effects you have now, except with video component added. Of course you would need to create special content for that sort of screen as it would need to have interlaced stripes for the lenticular. However, I think you could also write a handler routing that would do it for you and just feed in two image streams.
I know I am getting geeky. End result is a lenticular poster with video (and more). It moves and pokes out at you without glasses.
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The Astounding She Monster one sheet has been popping up a lot recently, six times in the last year at HA. (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=54+790+231&Ns=Time%7C1&Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles&Ntt=astounding+she+monster&searchView=grid) Maybe not so rare after all.
If you look at each closely, you may discover that the "six" are really "five" or "four" or "three" or "two" or even "one".
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oh c'mon already
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I just did a look and of the six copies sold in last year only two were backed.
The two backed copies do not grade the same, thought that is not always a clear indicator.
Of those unbacked, one can clearly see they are not the same copy!
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I meant at all auctions. We have auctioned some posters 100 or more times, but many of those might be the same exact ones coming around again (we HAVE been auctioning for 24 years). And sometimes it is auctioned unbacked and then again after it is backed.
You can't judge rarity from how many times a poster has been auctioned.
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well that is true.
I have bought back or been consigned quite a few items since I began auctions that I have previously sold (there are a few in my current auction)
sometimes the items come back due to a description mistake (we all make them), though that happens rarely.
Others have come back because some members have lost their jobs, had a medical issue or some other emergency or even because members just lost interest in some item & wanted to put the resources into other items that they are more interested in.
My own collection has been getting broken out in some areas that I am no longer collecting
.. and once in a while, it may even be because some idiot never paid for his auction wins, like that person who promised forever that he was sending me payment for the Back to Bataan poster that I am reselling again in the current auction (Hey Brett, if you're reading this - you are p-e-r-m-a-n-e-n-t-l-y b-a-n-n-e-d as this is your second time)
I would think however that to be reselling a poster 6 times is a pretty rare occurrence under any circumstances
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A few other titles that come to mind here are Attack of the 50 Foot Woman and This Gun For Hire and Forbidden Planet.
All 3 appear with some regularity (Kirby is offering a This Gun, right now, for sale on his site, as a matter of fact), and all always do quite well in the money dept.
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As has been mentioned before, This Gun For Hire OS seems to pop up wit such regularity, and once again, is doing very well in the HA Sig Auction.
Currently at $15,535.00 (inc the BP). (and the preset Reserve has NOT been met, yet). :o
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/this-gun-for-hire-paramount-1942-one-sheet-27-x-41-/a/7113-86170.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
(http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F3%2F2%2F8%2F9%2F13289434%5D%2Csizedata%5B776x500%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Any from the Creature From the Black Lagoon series material that comes up with some regularity, either on the bay or the auction houses, always seems to do pretty well, too. And while not voluminous, there always seems to be a piece coming for auction with regularity (though some of the foreign material seems much more rare than US paper).
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That goes with any title Jeff. The US is a large place, so lots of posters printed per title, as compared to other countries. Certain UK titles for example had 500 max copies printed.
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That goes with any title Jeff. The US is a large place, so lots of posters printed per title, as compared to other countries. Certain UK titles for example had 500 max copies printed.
I would not say with any title, Paul. Show me how much material from Frankenstein (1st release), BOFrank, Dracula (1931) or The Mummy appears with any regularity, if hardly at all, here in the US or elsewhere.
I would say material from those films would be classified in a thread called "Valuable & Rare" ;)
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The comparison was the size of the country Jeff, and those titles never turn up for UK paper, they just don't exist.. so there's still more available in the states.
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If comparing size of country, then that point is valid. I see what you mean, Paul. But in my using Creat./Black Lagoon as an example, material from that movie shows up in many auctions and even though it does, it still can command a good price, even though it is not all that rare (quantity).
Same with other examples mentioned in this thread- This Gun For Hire, Attack of the 50' Woman, Forbidden Planet, BAT or Jaws. Nice prices always achieved with new examples appearing on the horizon.
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If comparing size of country, then that point is valid. I see what you mean, Paul. But in my using Creat./Black Lagoon as an example, material from that movie shows up in many auctions and even though it does, it still can command a good price, even though it is not all that rare (quantity).
Both your points hold for that title -- the US posters show up with some regularity, but are still valuable while the U.K. posters are completely unknown. Zero 1st release Creature quads have surfaced publicly.
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I can appreciate why British posters from pre-1940 are so scarce, mainly due, as I understand it, to the paper drives and general destruction in the Second World War. I am unsure as to why posters from the 1950s (which would cover the Creature years) appear to be equally scarce. I don't think Britain ever had the equivalent of the poster exchanges in the US, so what happened to these 50s titles - were they just thrown away in the end?
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After the War, there was huge wide-spread poverty throughout the UK, even into the 50's. In the bad winters, people were even burning their furniture to stay warm, so posters had no chance. Not sure if you are old enough to remember Martin, we still had rationing for certain items into the 1960's. So any posters 50's or back over are jolly scarce over here..
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I actually have a ration card in my name (I was only a tot) for the year rationing ended (1954)!
It's still a bit of a mystery though isn't it, Paul, that so few posters survived in the 50s. I know we used paper twists to light our fires but I don't remember any posters going up the chimney - maybe my dad wasn't lucky enough to get hold of any!
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They will have been used by people local to, or working for the Cinemas, I have a couple of posters from that time that were used as underlay to stop carpets sticking to the floor boards etc. Plus we need to bare in mind, we're a small country, so quite limited print runs.
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Star Wars? Pulp Fiction Lucky Strike? Breakfast at Tiffany's?
I believe those are good examples of posters which have emotional connections. People remember the movie and even though there are a lot of the posters around it becomes a "oh, I remember that when I was a kid" or "My first date with my wife..." So people are willing to pay a lot more for them.
I remember a doctor's office who had rock n roll posters all over and I saw a few concerts which I had gone to see. I asked how much they spent on the poster but the response was shocking. They spent a few hundred on the poster and a few hundred on the mounting/framing. Yet the poster was really common.
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After the War, there was huge wide-spread poverty throughout the UK, even into the 50's. In the bad winters, people were even burning their furniture to stay warm, so posters had no chance. Not sure if you are old enough to remember Martin, we still had rationing for certain items into the 1960's. So any posters 50's or back over are jolly scarce over here..
Good point Paul, where I live we had a cinema from 1904-early 70s and it was then demolished to make way for some shops. My nan can recall the staff in the 50s having bonfires out the back to keep warm.
This ties in nicely with my mum's friend who worked in the cinema from the early 60s until it closed in the early 70s. She told me her boss used to tell her to take piles of 'old crappy film posters' out the back to burn. :'(
I can only imagine what treasures were disposed off in those bonfires.
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She told me her boss used to tell her to take piles of 'old crappy film posters' out the back to burn. :'(
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Good point Paul, where I live we had a cinema from 1904-early 70s and it was then demolished to make way for some shops. My nan can recall the staff in the 50s having bonfires out the back to keep warm.
This ties in nicely with my mum's friend who worked in the cinema from the early 60s until it closed in the early 70s. She told me her boss used to tell her to take piles of 'old crappy film posters' out the back to burn. :'(
I can only imagine what treasures were disposed off in those bonfires.
What a story Marc! crying crying crying
But when it's warmth vs posters, I think we all know what's gonna win out, unfortunately.
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Well, maybe he was just burning multiple copies of "Confessions Of A Window Cleaner" which would be completely acceptable - in fact he could have thrown in copies of the actual film without breaking the hearts of the country's film collectors.
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I dont know that movie, Martin. Is it really that bad?
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typical British sex farce. I'll admit it was a guilty pleasure for me in the early days of Cinemax.
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Jeff, just google the name Robin Askwith - the resulting photos should be enough.
It's strange how certain comedy doesn't translate across borders or periods of time. Adam Sandler, for example, I've never got him - and it works the other way: I am sure there are plenty of British examples that caused much head scatching on the other side of the Atlantic.
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typical British sex farce. I'll admit it was a guilty pleasure for me in the early days of Cinemax.
Yes, I know what you mean. I suppose the series was in the great tradition of British smut/camp like the Carry On films. Charles Hawtrey saying "and this is Bobby the budgie" can still have me in fits although I would guess those films are a complete mystery to a lot of non-British audiences of a certain age.
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I still like the confessions films. They were of a time long gone, but I look back on them today more with nostalgia. They were never going to be Citizen Kane, or the like, but in the day, they made a stack of money, and cost peanuts to make. Just good fun for an hour or so. I think they more appealed to us working class fellows, they were simpler times.
I still have them on dvd, and also the posters from the films, I would never sell them, still love that era, but kids of today wouldn't thank you to watch them or collect from them, but what do they know with their pods and tweets....
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So you would have been out there retrieving posters from the fire, Paul, not throwing petrol on the flames!
I feel a bit mean now calling old Robin, he never did anyone any harm. I never even thought about "Confessions" still being available on dvd - they'll be having a revival season at the BFI next (well, perhaps not just yet).
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I wouldn't go that far (BFI) but as a bit of a wheez I'll stick one on now-and-then.. They are like "On the Buses" with tit's... ;D
Yes I do have all the posters from the films Martin, quick put that fire out...
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You'll be telling me next that you had a poster of Olive up on your wall!
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Steady, I've just had my Tea...
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Seeing T's post showing his Laura US OS made me think that particular poster could fit in this thread, too. That poster does show up with some regularity and yet it always sells for a "nice" price.
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Seeing T's post showing his Laura US OS made me think that particular poster could fit in this thread, too. That poster does show up with some regularity and yet it always sells for a "nice" price.
That can't be right, I have it on good authority that "this one-sheet is rarely offered for sale. We have only auctioned four examples of it, and only one in the past 17 years!"
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Seeing T's post showing his Laura US OS made me think that particular poster could fit in this thread, too. That poster does show up with some regularity and yet it always sells for a "nice" price.
You're right, Jeff. That's why it took me 15 years, pretty much since I started collecting, to find a folded copy. They're all over the place. I should have looked harder.
T
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I wasnt saying it's as common as an Attack/ 50 Foot Woman or even a Bieber poster.... ;D
HA has sold a copy 11 times and EMP looks to have auctioned 5 copies, not counting the image shown for their archive. (And regardless of one being folded or backed).
Just meaning that it pops up every now and then.
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The problem with HA is that all of them except one were linenbacked, so you really can't tell if the same copy sold multiple times.
In any case, I really don't believe this is the kind of posters that belong in this thread. There are way better examples of not rare posters that sell for a lot. How about Casablanca? Sold 8 times at Heritage, and one of those 8 times was for $77k. Now talk about a crazy price for a very easy to find poster.
T
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HA has sold a copy 11 times and EMP looks to have auctioned 5 copies, not counting the image shown for their archive. (And regardless of one being folded or backed).
Yes, but you know the rule - one of the above auctions (not saying who) has auctioned the same copy 11 times, while the other auction has sold the other 5 known copies, individually and has never had an item come back for sale.
So in total, 6 known copies.
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Yes, but you know the rule - one of the above auctions (not saying who) has auctioned the same copy 11 times, while the other auction has sold the other 5 known copies, individually and has never had an item come back for sale.
So in total, 6 known copies.
Then, in that case...........
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How about Casablanca? Sold 8 times at Heritage, and one of those 8 times was for $77k. Now talk about a crazy price for a very easy to find poster.
not sure that qualifies. six of the eight at Heritage were also backed, with the prior unbacked example selling a decade ago.
The one Bruce just sold was his first-ever auction of an unbacked one and it sold to a dealer, so I would suggest that was close to a wholesale price. Not an easy poster to find unbacked, and ugly as it is - still worth every penny it brings.
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You know I'm joking, right? Just trying to make a point for Jeff.
T