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Title: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 15, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
Just got my 27x41 Woman In Red directly from The S2 Art Group (http://www.jackgallery.com/page.php?page=catalog&type=collection&collectionID=8&productTypeID=1) and it definitely is quite impressive.

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: stewart boyle on December 15, 2011, 07:12:30 PM
Just got my 27x41 Woman In Red directly from The S2 Art Group (http://www.jackgallery.com/page.php?page=catalog&type=collection&collectionID=8&productTypeID=1) and it definitely is quite impressive.


Stunning color Mel..sweet one..

Stew
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 16, 2011, 12:37:35 AM
It's very striking for sure - but what is with the giant white bottom border?  Is the original like that?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 16, 2011, 02:34:09 AM
I was wondering the same thing myself.  I could not find a picture of an original on an auction site but I did find a picture of what appears to be the original here (http://ellycarthy.blogspot.com/2011/11/beautiful-old-movie-posters.html):

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/thewomaninred.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 50s on December 16, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
I was wondering the same thing myself.  I could not find a picture of an original on an auction site but I did find a picture of what appears to be the original here (http://ellycarthy.blogspot.com/2011/11/beautiful-old-movie-posters.html):

Looks like S2 didn't center the central image vertically... too little border (compared to original) at top and too much at bottom

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 16, 2011, 08:37:06 AM
I know it is a recreation or tribute but the blue credit text at the bottom should have been put in the white border at the bottom to give it a more authentic feel. 

The way they've done it makes it look like a simple scan of the poster on printer paper that is too large!
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 50s on December 16, 2011, 09:08:42 AM
I know it is a recreation or tribute but the blue credit text at the bottom should have been put in the white border at the bottom to give it a more authentic feel. 

The way they've done it makes it look like a simple scan of the poster on printer paper that is too large!

Yes, good spotting, eagle eye Chris

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 16, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
Shame on y'all Commonwealth cheeseballs for trying to make me cry at Christmas!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Crying.png)

It looks just fine - even sublime - to me....

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PC160001.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 16, 2011, 11:48:26 PM
Mel, don't get me wrong it is still a beautiful poster and looks great framed but they could have done it better in my opinion
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 50s on December 17, 2011, 01:11:19 AM
Yes, a bit  ;)

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Charlie on December 17, 2011, 10:28:05 AM
Man, Mel you can't get a break...  There are a lot of haters on APF...  Just asked Michael; he's excitingly shows off his new ROLEX and a couple of forum members start crapping on it. 

I think we should all stick to the old adage "If you can't say something nice, keep it to your fucking self!" (unless your posting in the "Fuck the Liberal Agenda", "Fuck Rick Perry", "Fuck the Teaparty", or any "Lets Fuck with Ted and Brian, to see if their heads will explode ;)" threads)

 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 17, 2011, 11:20:59 AM
Just asked Michael; he's excitingly shows off his new ROLEX and a couple of forum members start crapping on it. 


The thing is Charlie, what exactly does a Rolex have to do with movie posters?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 17, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
All kidding aside, the unexpected extra inch of border on the S2 The Woman In Red is no big deal because the original is 60% text/title/white space anyway.   I could return/exchange it but have no interest in doing so.

However, I think the extra border space would detract from a poster like The Mummy, which has a larger image and is the next S2 poster I'll get, if I ever get another:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Screenshot2011-12-17at115121AM.png)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Charlie on December 17, 2011, 12:14:22 PM
The thing is Charlie, what exactly does a Rolex have to do with movie posters?

It was in the randomness thread. I like to think of the forum at some point becomes more than about posters and closer to a community of movie poster collectors.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 17, 2011, 12:20:02 PM
Redheads v. blondes!

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/PC170007.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: stewart boyle on December 17, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Redheads...

 :D

Stew
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: stewart boyle on December 17, 2011, 01:05:15 PM

I think we should all stick to the old adage "If you can't say something nice, keep it to your fucking self!"

 
I disagree with this,but then again I also put all my eggs in one f*cking basket...I`m kind of a rule breaker... ;D

Stew
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Charlie on December 17, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
I know kind of bullish of me (and I know Mel can take care of himself) but he was obviously really proud of this purchase (and it wasn't cheap). I mean, he started a thread about it...  I don't know the histories, so I may be at a loss regarding Mel. And everyone can do what they damn well please, but at times there seems to be a lack of courtesy.  I guess, if I would have dropped $300+ on an S2 and had a guy tell me how fugly it was, I may be a bit disheartened about the purchase... 

It may the pain meds that have me all screwed up (survived another damn day surgery yesterday - I'm falling apart) but I just felt for the guy and had to comment.  I would have done the same for Chris or Stew or anyone...
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: stewart boyle on December 17, 2011, 02:05:29 PM
Just out of curiousity..who would have made the decison to move the bottom credits to inside the poster image ?,rather than faithfully reproducing that text underneath the poster,as far as I know S2s` are produced using authentic(?) printer presses..etc..Almost as close to the original as you could want.
Is the moving of the final text,throwing off the alignment?

Stew

Painfully long winded question but,hopefully someone can set me right..
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 17, 2011, 02:17:38 PM
It was in the randomness thread. I like to think of the forum at some point becomes more than about posters and closer to a community of movie poster collectors.

And Rolex buyers?  ;)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 17, 2011, 02:20:46 PM
I know kind of bullish of me (and I know Mel can take care of himself) but he was obviously really proud of this purchase (and it wasn't cheap). I mean, he started a thread about it...  I don't know the histories, so I may be at a loss regarding Mel. And everyone can do what they damn well please, but at times there seems to be a lack of courtesy.  I guess, if I would have dropped $300+ on an S2 and had a guy tell me how fugly it was, I may be a bit disheartened about the purchase... 

It may the pain meds that have me all screwed up (survived another damn day surgery yesterday - I'm falling apart) but I just felt for the guy and had to comment.  I would have done the same for Chris or Stew or anyone...


I was not knocking Mel's purchase (although I would never spend $300+ on this sort of thing).  It was a comment about the poster itself and would have applied to anyone who bought this particular poster.  In fact, I suggested to Mel when Bruce's S2 went for higher than Mel's bid that he just splurge on the extra $25 and get it direct from S2 (you know, in the spirit of Christmas and all that)...
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 17, 2011, 02:53:18 PM
Charlie, I think you're making too big a deal of it.  The 1/2" expansion (to 1 1/2") of the borders is a fair criticism but not that important to me.

As far as the value, I agree with Bruce that you need to see it to appreciate it.  You simply can't make a higher-quality "recreation" than this and the pictures don't "do it justice."

I think it's well worth $350, especially since I'm going to display it at the office and it is essentially impossible to obtain an original.  How many of these are left?  Surely less than 5.  Who knows how much it would auction for?  This similar 1930 Greta Garbo sold for $38K this year (http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7043&lotNo=83187#Photo), SEVEN times its estimate:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/lf-1-9.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on October 16, 2012, 09:24:03 PM
Very nice Mel (you just can't stay away eh? ;) )
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on November 04, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
The colours are really great on these S2's
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Hallucination Generation on November 04, 2012, 07:01:25 PM

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE/2012-11/S2%20-%2050Ftc.JPG)


50 foot my arse.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Charlie on November 05, 2012, 11:13:32 AM
50 foot my arse.

Man I never put that together... A bridges vertical clearance (http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/geometric/pubs/mitigationstrategies/chapter3/3_verticalclearance.htm) is usually 16' (the usual minimum TX is 16'9" - throwing some engineering criteria at you here) so that would put her at just at 100' (I got 96' but the poster is skewed) or the bridge would have to have 35' clearance...   A standard car height (http://books.google.com/books?id=I511spiUbQsC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=standard+car+height+aashto&source=bl&ots=pZ7kqK1iyv&sig=LaCbQ151eH7QirtQpZ7TgDU_4UA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=POSXUPD5GOrB2QXB1oHgAw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=standard%20car%20height%20aashto&f=false) is 4.5' and you could probably stack 4 of those cop cars so max of 18' clearance which would put her at 108'...  In fact the whole image is out of wack.  Height ~ 24 palms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportion_(architecture))  so she got about 5'-6' of car making her 120' to 140' tall.

So yeah his arse!
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: jayn_j on November 05, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
And we need to apply the square-cube law.  Those shapely legs would never be able to structurally support that huge body.  Compare an elephant to an ant.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Ari on November 05, 2012, 11:27:37 PM
It's not a photograph.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Silhouette on November 05, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Man I never put that together... A bridges vertical clearance (http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/geometric/pubs/mitigationstrategies/chapter3/3_verticalclearance.htm) is usually 16' (the usual minimum TX is 16'9" - throwing some engineering criteria at you here) so that would put her at just at 100' (I got 96' but the poster is skewed) or the bridge would have to have 35' clearance...   A standard car height (http://books.google.com/books?id=I511spiUbQsC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=standard+car+height+aashto&source=bl&ots=pZ7kqK1iyv&sig=LaCbQ151eH7QirtQpZ7TgDU_4UA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=POSXUPD5GOrB2QXB1oHgAw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=standard%20car%20height%20aashto&f=false) is 4.5' and you could probably stack 4 of those cop cars so max of 18' clearance which would put her at 108'...  In fact the whole image is out of wack.  Height ~ 24 palms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportion_(architecture))  so she got about 5'-6' of car making her 120' to 140' tall.

So yeah his arse!

And that should see the price of the original drop by the dollars, at least
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Harry Caul on November 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
And we need to apply the square-cube law.  Those shapely legs would never be able to structurally support that huge body.  Compare an elephant to an ant.

And that should see the price of the original drop by the dollars, at least


Crap, I just got this poster... and now I read that it breaks the laws of physics and it's probably dropping in value because of it!  Maybe if I get it restored someday I'll have John from Poster Mountain put some big 'ole elephant legs on her to try and salvage some of the value.   ;)

(http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s369/drharrycaul/random%20pics/1-2012-11-08194449.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Charlie on November 08, 2012, 09:48:29 PM
I think it is a beauty just the way it is.... nice one... is this the one you were speaking of?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Harry Caul on November 08, 2012, 09:49:45 PM
Indeed it was.  By the way, can you pop over to the Nov. acquisitions thread and answer the question I had for you?  Thanks bud! 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 50s on December 26, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
As nice as they are, I'd feel odd putting up posters up that are not originals if my collection were originals otherwise. People might extrapolate originals might be 'fakes' cheapening the collection? Well, we all think different and it may well be about the art, putting up what looks nice, rather than what it is. 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on December 26, 2012, 08:20:33 PM
As nice as they are, I'd feel odd putting up posters up that are not originals if my collection were originals otherwise. People might extrapolate originals might be 'fakes' cheapening the collection? Well, we all think different and it may well be about the art, putting up what looks nice, rather than what it is. 

Thing about Mel's Steve is that he only has the S2's in the office (at least I think that's the case).  But he's a lawyer so authenticity likely means very little ;)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on December 26, 2012, 08:43:55 PM
Dear peoplez of the peanut gallery, these high-quality commercial posters (along with some Kilians and Mondos) are excellent "side dishes" in this hobby, nothing more, nothing less.

They're also good conversation starters with clients and colleagues.   Most of them are quite clueless, just as I was four years ago (and probably still am), but I'm always pimping for this hobby....

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 110x75 on December 26, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
But he's a lawyer so authenticity likely means very little ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: brude on December 26, 2012, 09:58:15 PM
They look very cool.  thumbup
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 29, 2013, 10:11:34 PM
Well, good news for anybody who wants to pick up one or more of these.

I noticed that Jack Gallery put them on sale for $128.

http://jackgallery.com/page.php?page=catalog&type=collection&collectionID=8&productTypeID=1

I paid an average of $200 for my nine S2s.

Have no idea how long the sale will last....
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Harry Caul on March 29, 2013, 11:15:05 PM
Have no idea how long the sale will last....

What I want to know is just how many of these things were printed? 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: brude on March 29, 2013, 11:27:27 PM
What I want to know is how an ALIEN 1/2 sheet made the grade?
Looks sorely out of place, doesn't it?

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on March 30, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
Well, good news for anybody who wants to pick up one or more of these.

I noticed that Jack Gallery put them on sale for $128.

http://jackgallery.com/page.php?page=catalog&type=collection&collectionID=8&productTypeID=1

I paid an average of $200 for my nine S2s.

Have no idea how long the sale will last....

I am probably just missing it but where does it state these are S2's?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 12:42:17 AM
I am probably just missing it but where does it state these are S2's?

Chris, these are the folks (Jack and Carolyn Solomon) who started the S2 Art Group, which created and printed these fantastic re-creations on their antique litho presses.

Jack Gallery was the retail outlet to buy the S2 prints.  ;)

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on March 30, 2013, 12:47:22 AM
Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 30, 2013, 07:11:49 AM
Pretty sure they printed several thousand of each print back in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

It's unclear whether they can create more on demand now.

It appears they have sold out of some prints (e.g. Cleopatra), so I'm assuming they're just selling the existing stock.  Here's an older list from LAMP:

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/index/COUNTRIES/US/Articles/S2-AFI-PosterList.htm

But in any event for $128 (+$25 shipping) most of these are exceptional bargains, in several cases less than 0.1% of the cost of an original, some of which (Frankenstein, Phantom of the Opera) are impossible to buy at any price.

I'd check the Emovie resale prices of these before buying any of these and pick the ones that resell for the highest prices:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/s2/sort/4/archive.html

Here are EMP's pics of most of the S2 posters:

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/S2-1.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/S2-2.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/S2-3.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/S2-4.jpg)

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-03/S2-odd.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: rdavey26 on March 30, 2013, 10:34:39 AM
I just ordered the Mummy.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Threenero on March 30, 2013, 11:17:01 AM
OH no....just when i taught i was finished spending money this month, along comes these beauties >:(

 I guess i can put of the car insurances for a while  :P
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 12:29:20 PM
OH no....just when i taught i was finished spending money this month, along comes these beauties >:(

 I guess i can put of the car insurances for a while  :P

Just remember these are commercial reproductions, with very slight, sometimes hard to find, alterations to the original artwork, as redesigned by the amazing S2 artists.  ;)

They are stunning to look at, no question about that!! The workmanship is A1.  clap clap

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Threenero on March 30, 2013, 12:47:58 PM
I know they are repros but i'm never going to be able to buy a real 50ft woman. I nearly bought one of those digital print versions but would be much happier with a litho version. I'm happy to pay more for the extra skill and time involved that goes into them.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 01:02:58 PM
Oh yeah.. for sure. I love the fact that they created these stunners, too.

With these made available again ( for how long is the question) one could put a nice S2 collection together, in rather short order.

Congrats on The Mummy purchase, too!

 thumbup
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: rdavey26 on March 30, 2013, 01:51:37 PM
Thank you. I was thinking about purchasing Phantom of the Opera as well but I think The Mummy will just have to do for now.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 30, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
Thank you. I was thinking about purchasing Phantom of the Opera as well but I think The Mummy will just have to do for now.

Those are the best two IMO. 

Go for the most colorful.

I'd say The Day The Earth Stood Still is somewhat crudely drawn in comparison to the original.

No point in buying The Sting, since the original sells for $75 or so.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 30, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
Thank you. I was thinking about purchasing Phantom of the Opera as well but I think The Mummy will just have to do for now.

That style OS for Phantom (one of my favorite movies) is fantastic, too. I wish they had done the "underwater" style, as well. That would have been a killer version to re-create, as well.

 cheers

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: rdavey26 on March 30, 2013, 02:33:36 PM
Yes it would have. I like the underwater image for Phantom
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: syracuselaxfan on March 31, 2013, 06:44:58 AM
Thanks for the heads up on these. I bought The Mummy and Play Ball posters. Now for frames...
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: rdavey26 on March 31, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Congrats on the purchase. I just bought the Mummy as well.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: syracuselaxfan on March 31, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
Congrats on the purchase. I just bought the Mummy as well.

 thumbup
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Starling on April 08, 2013, 11:46:08 AM
Just picked up the 4 S2's I ordered (Mummy, Invisible Man, Woman in Red, Thief of Bagdad), and I must say, I am beyond impressed!!  Stunningly well done bed1  Very worth the $128. 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on April 08, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
Good deal, Brian. Sounds like you are a happy camper.

 clap

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Starling on April 08, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
In fact, they're so great, now I want to pick up like 4 more haha....what to do, what to do!!   :-\
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: 50s on April 08, 2013, 04:59:57 PM
Why would they bother with that fuggly Tarantula

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 09, 2013, 10:12:54 PM
Picked up the Frankenstein and Dracula.  Those weren't great posters to begin with but this is probably the only chance I'll have to get them at this price and they've resold for cuckoo prices at EMP....
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 23, 2013, 08:55:03 PM
Pics of Frankie and Dracula.  The JackGallery (http://jackgallery.com/) claims it is "liquidating" these posters by May 31, so you might want to order them now:

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/S2s.JPG)

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/S2-Frankie.JPG)

(http://posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2013-04/S2-Dracula.JPG)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on April 23, 2013, 10:02:59 PM
Interesting - they utilized different 'noted chromists' on each poster...I wonder how many different chromists were used.

Anyone have a good definition of chromist?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Bruce on April 23, 2013, 10:13:51 PM
A more interesting question is, how many chromists are NOT "noted"?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Threenero on April 24, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
A chromist is the person who copies the original artwork but breaks it down into it's individual colours and tones and makes the screens or plates for each colour.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on April 24, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
A chromist is the person who copies the original artwork but breaks it down into it's individual colours and tones and makes the screens or plates for each colour.

Thank you!
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Filmlobbycards on April 25, 2013, 03:40:31 AM
It literally derives from the late 19th century phenomenon of Chromolithography..a slightly more delicate procedure that implements more medium variations of color on (sometimes) dozens of individual plates...in the late 1800's the technology became reasonably commonplace ...Chromolithography literally "blew it's load" in Orchidaceous plant studies and Ornithological naturalist works... I have handled (and unfortunately "broken") thousands of original engravings from this time period.. and you will NEVER be able to fully appreciate these until you see them and hold them in different angles with light...an easy search will provide some reasonably detailed results...hope this helps!!
http://www.google.com/search?q=Chromolithograph+bird+prints&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Gdx4UdPlFsW_igLEpoGQCQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=690 (http://www.google.com/search?q=Chromolithograph+bird+prints&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Gdx4UdPlFsW_igLEpoGQCQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=690)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 15, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Whoever is running the Jack Gallery now put a fire sale on the Phantom of the Opera for $30:

http://www.jackgallery.com/phantom-of-the-opera-2

Great deal, it's a superb poster and they were selling for hundreds of dollars recently:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11818243.html
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2014, 11:04:06 PM
Whoever is running the Jack Gallery now put a fire sale on the Phantom of the Opera for $30:

http://www.jackgallery.com/phantom-of-the-opera-2

Great deal, it's a superb poster and they were selling for hundreds of dollars recently:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/11818243.html

Just so there is no confusion, the 30 dollar Phantom mentioned above is not one of the high end S2s (as was sold on emovie) but rather one of their lower tier posters (and listed in their Poster Section, rather than their Movie Lithograph section). Other $30.00 titles available include Frankenstein (OS & teaser), Dracula's Daughter, Dracula, The Mummy, Invisible Man and others. (http://www.jackgallery.com/explore/poster?p=1)

The hi end, S2 litho Phantom is currently on sale at 50% off, for $287.00 (http://www.jackgallery.com/phantom-of-the-opera)

The selection of other top tier, S2 titles (some also offered at 50% off), can be seen here:

http://www.jackgallery.com/explore/removielithographs?p=1





Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on March 15, 2014, 11:45:27 PM
Was going to post something along those lines Jeff but you beat me to it.

Still Mel's heart was in the right place...
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2014, 12:04:56 AM
Was going to post something along those lines Jeff but you beat me to it.


You were drafting your daybill commentary.  ;)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
You were drafting your daybill commentary.  ;)

You caught me!
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2014, 12:07:08 AM
You caught me!

We were drafting in tandem.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2014, 08:07:58 AM
It says "Limited Edition Hand Pulled Lithograph by the Re Society 27" x 41" for $30.

It's listed on the Home Page.

It may be a mistake but that's what it says.
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
Somebody is offering a mismatched three sheet S2 recreation for $350:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261290940665

JackGallery is also offering it and it looks mismatched as well:

http://www.jackgallery.com/index.php/quickview/index/view/path/schulz-neudamm-metropolis

Many three sheets are mismatched but surely they did not deliberately print these mismatched?

(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Metropolis.JPG)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on March 16, 2014, 12:31:14 PM
It says "Limited Edition Hand Pulled Lithograph by the Re Society 27" x 41" for $30.

It's listed on the Home Page.

It may be a mistake but that's what it says.

S2 produced two versions of their lithos. The one series was more economical, so to speak.

That's why it isn't just the Phantom that is 30.00, but a whole series, including non-film images, in the link I posted above.

They simply cut and pasted the same description for both versions, and that, IMO, should be re-written, to differentiate the "economy model." Anyone reading it would/could assume that the 30.00 version and the 287.00 version are one in the same.

What is interesting tho, is when one looks at the URLs for each set, the less expensive are in the url with "poster" written as part of the  name, whereas the $$$$ versions are in the "relithographs" URL/link.  




Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 16, 2014, 03:05:22 PM
Somebody is offering a mismatched three sheet S2 recreation for $350:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261290940665

JackGallery is also offering it and it looks mismatched as well:

http://www.jackgallery.com/index.php/quickview/index/view/path/schulz-neudamm-metropolis

Many three sheets are mismatched but surely they did not deliberately print these mismatched?

could just be poor photography technique
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: brude on March 16, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE2/2014-03/Metropolis.JPG)

This actually looks fine. If you shift the bottom panel 1/2 inch higher, it comes into alinement, eh?
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Harry Caul on March 16, 2014, 04:55:55 PM
Does the seller not realize these are supposed to overlap? 
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 16, 2014, 05:56:52 PM
No the gold tone is clearly different.  The bottom and top panels of three sheets in fact rarely match, which is one of the reasons I didn't collect them early on.  But I would expect S2 to have printed them in the same gold tone. I've sent an email asking for an explanation and will pass it on if they answer. (They've been in bankruptcy so it's unclear who is running the show now.)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: CSM on March 16, 2014, 07:17:26 PM
Apart from the alignment - which yes would be solved by the overlap - there is a clear colour discrepancy. 

So wonder if that's taking separate photos of each part and then lining them up or if it's a printing issue...
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 16, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Mel, Jack Solomon died in 2012. S2 was sold, or more to the point - the assets were sold

The owners are a completely different gallery and they also apparently bought the name as well as the stock and the printing presses

they're down the street from my home. I hope I can remember to drop over there tomorrow
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on June 24, 2016, 01:05:59 AM
A side by side comparison of the S2 recreation of the Cleopatra OS printed in 2000 (l) vs. the original OS from 1917 (r). The differences in color and slight variations in design can be seen, when put together.

Even with the decided, minor differences , the S2 Group had a very talented group of artists to create these modern versions  clap clap:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/cleocompare_zpsnbipcd8r.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: erik1925 on May 25, 2017, 02:35:40 AM
Placing this post here, too, for any that were wondering or might be interested in these re-creation prints:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,7410.msg220733.html#msg220733



"A quick Google search produced this find. It seems that the original S2 lithographs are still being produced withe the same presses and attention to detail.

The new company is called Rue Royale Fine Art and their site (and store of various poster prints) can be found here:

http://www.rueroyalefinearts.com/

This part of their site might most appeal to some members here:   thumbsup.gif

http://www.rueroyalefinearts.com/shop/posters/art-of-the-movies/ "
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on June 02, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
The Scottsdale Art Group is liquidating all the S2s at relatively cheap prices:

http://scottsdaleartgroup.com/pdfcatalogs/Movie-Collection-Customer.pdf

More info here:

http://scottsdaleartgroup.com/artists/movies-collectable-fine-art-lithographs/

All of the one sheets are $139- I bought 3 so far - less than they're selling for used at EMP:

http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/search/s2/sort/14/archive.html

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s2_zpsztmnezm7.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/s2_zpsztmnezm7.jpg.html)

The quality is phenomenal here's one of mine framed:

 (http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/2011-12%20Den_zpscfeqvtrh.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/2011-12%20Den_zpscfeqvtrh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on June 07, 2017, 10:19:31 PM
So I like these S2s so much I bought 12 for $125 each.  I'll rotate them monthly in one frame. ($1500 is a lot of money but I'm sure I can resell them for at least that much if I get tired of them. The cost of the original MPs is $1 million+!)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Mummy_zpsxqaxo7ry.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Mummy_zpsxqaxo7ry.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Woman%20in%20Red%20S2_zpsl09llcul.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Woman%20in%20Red%20S2_zpsl09llcul.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Phantom%20of%20the%20Opera%20S2_zpsbuoopwlo.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Phantom%20of%20the%20Opera%20S2_zpsbuoopwlo.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Metropolis_zpswneafomg.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Metropolis_zpswneafomg.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Invisible%20Man_zpsu2h0mszi.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Invisible%20Man_zpsu2h0mszi.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Frankenstein_zpsut0u0xza.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Frankenstein_zpsut0u0xza.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Footlight%20Parade%20S2_zpsimzicf7b.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Footlight%20Parade%20S2_zpsimzicf7b.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Flash%20Gordon_zps08zvdz10.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Flash%20Gordon_zps08zvdz10.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Dracula_zps9riq6zit.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Dracula_zps9riq6zit.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Cleopatra_zps5ghmbfv2.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Cleopatra_zps5ghmbfv2.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Creature%20S2_zpssrgo8ymm.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/Creature%20S2_zpssrgo8ymm.jpg.html)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/50%20Woman_zpsdlbfjfnf.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/50%20Woman_zpsdlbfjfnf.jpg.html)

Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: brude on August 19, 2017, 01:38:25 PM
 clap clap clap clap clap
Beautiful selection of classic prints, Mel!
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on July 06, 2018, 06:29:11 PM
Got 2 mo!

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968092/Thief%20of%20Bagdad%20S2_zpsk3zmzypx.jpg)

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968092/It%20Happened%20One%20Night%20S2_zpsgqbp5ggw.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on July 06, 2018, 06:29:55 PM
"Jeers" to S2 hatas!

(https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/somewhere-out-there-hater-memes.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on July 06, 2018, 06:33:07 PM
Still on sale for $159 each:

http://scottsdaleartgroup.com/artists/movies-collectable-fine-art-lithographs/movie-artwork-inventory/ (http://scottsdaleartgroup.com/artists/movies-collectable-fine-art-lithographs/movie-artwork-inventory/)

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36687825_2180093268941271_7424435533364854784_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=146b39618b832c821c9a7ce71297864b&oe=5BECA166)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: guest4955 on July 06, 2018, 06:46:45 PM
Now have 14:

(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968094/Screen%20Shot%202018-07-06%20at%206.43.58%20PM_zpsfici7o3u.jpg)
Title: Re: S2 Art Group Movie Poster Litho Reproductions
Post by: Crazy Vick on July 06, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
"Jeers" to S2 hatas!

OK as an old (original, smelly, rough and "saved") paper lover first and foremost I am guilty

...but somehow Mel you make it just a little less despicable.