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Title: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on December 01, 2011, 10:46:52 PM
Just wondering what are the sizes for Belgium posters.
I just bought a 47x63. and It was listed as a Belgian poster? Seem right? I figured it was a French poster. But it wasn't, they have different artworks.
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: CSM on December 01, 2011, 10:56:10 PM
Mike, this is what LAMP says:

Over the last few years, smaller distributors in Belgium have been using poster plates that were sent from the studios and printing them in Belgium. For example, if the film is coming from France, they may get the French plates for the Grande (47x63) and print it in Belgium to distribute. Then you would have a 47x63 French poster but it will have a Belgium printers tag. This saves money for the small distributor because he then does not have to pay for layout, drafting and artists to create the new posters and then the expense of having the plates made. So even though the printing cost may be slightly more, it eliminates all the pre-printing costs.

This means that you might see all types of sizes that are standard in other countries with a Belgium printer tag on it.

Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: CSM on December 01, 2011, 10:57:02 PM
Well to be fair the LAMP quote did not really include "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "French Grande"" ;)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on December 01, 2011, 11:07:29 PM
Are they by any means more valuable? or just what a collector will pay?
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: CSM on December 01, 2011, 11:11:33 PM
I honestly don't know Mike.  Probably all depends on the title.

Might want to check Bruce's/Heritage's archives?
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Dobbo on December 03, 2011, 11:20:37 PM

Proper nube question... I have about 300 belgian posters and they all measure 24"x16" (60X40centimetres)
I didn't think you got big Belgium posters?
Maybe a way that you could tell if a poster is Belgium or not, nearly all mine have the title in French and a Germanic looking language, with the English title in Brackets. Here is an example

(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/SirDobbo/PeepingTom_Bel.jpg)

It has the French title 'Le Voyeur'
The Germanic title 'De Loerder'
And the english title 'Peeping Tom' in brackets underneath the French title.

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: CSM on December 04, 2011, 12:45:35 AM
Dobbo - did you even read my response?
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2011, 01:49:15 AM
Dobbo, the other language is Flemish. It's language spoken in that geographic area not just inside Belgium, but in the surrounding nations as well.
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Mondo Hazardo on December 04, 2011, 03:55:51 AM
Flemmish is not a separate language, it's Dutch
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Dobbo on December 04, 2011, 08:43:30 AM

That's right, Flemish.. :)

But i've still never seen a Big poster outside a Belgium cinema..
I think they (Belgium 24"X15") are used in Holland and Luxembourg as well.
I have a theory...
Since customs and border control have been removed in Western Europe. It no longer matters what printer a film distributer use's. Why not get 'Thierry hates "French Grande"'s' printed in Belgium, if it is cheaper. Also Belgium is very close to 'Paris' compared with a lot of French City's.
I can see a situation where the Artist/Graphic Designer does the work, and the plates would be sent to Belgium for cheaper printing.
This still means they are French posters for use in France. They are never going to be used in Belgium, they don't have the Frames outside the cinema's to fit such a size of poster.
Although i haven't been to Belgium for over 10 years and wouldn't be surprised if they had converted to light boxes and 1-sheets. :)
 
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on December 04, 2011, 09:56:19 AM
I don't know, but its 47x63. The French one has a different image. And the one I ordered has a better one. I will post it later when I get it.
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
Flemmish is not a separate language, it's Dutch

actually Wim, it IS a separate language. I am of direct Belgian lineage (in other words, I'm a first generation American on one side of the family) and ((2nd genetaion on the other)) and so I have knowledge of this issue.

the Dutch language is actually Flanders
Flemish is the international version of the Dutch language and is commonly spoken in Belgium as well as Switzerland and Germany and even in some parts of France, as such it has some modifications of Flanders so that people in those other regions better understand the language
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: eatbrie on December 04, 2011, 08:03:17 PM
I am of direct Belgian lineage...

AH!!!  It explains a lot.

 puke
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Dobbo on December 04, 2011, 08:05:57 PM

Like, why you need three titles on a poster. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 04, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
AH!!!  It explains a lot.

hey schmuckaluck, I am of French lineage too.. so "ribbet" to you too you frog

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/kermit.jpg)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Bruce on December 04, 2011, 08:30:48 PM
I think the "printed in Belgium for use in France" theory sounds good (and fits some facts), but I think it is incorrect. I have been consigned some really odd sized Belgian posters (all are from the past ten years), and they are not French sizes. They also don't have multiple languages.

I think the right answer is that they just got tired of French people pissing all over their posters because they are so "small" so they decided to try other sizes.

Bruce
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Dobbo on December 04, 2011, 09:15:49 PM

That figures, all mine are from the 50's to the 80's.
Although, you must have agreed sizes in a country for the publicity material to fit in generic displays etc.
Have they adopted German sizes i wonder?
It seems an obvious choice to follow one of the neighbouring country's.
Are the titles in French or Flemish, Bruce?
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: 110x75 on December 06, 2011, 05:48:07 PM
I have 3 of them, two from the 50s (with the standard measure, 24"x16")

And one from 1930, measuring 33,5"x22" ...

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/Danseuses2.jpg)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 06, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
I have 3 of them, two from the 50s (with the standard measure, 24"x16")
And one from 1930, measuring 33,5"x22" ...
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/Danseuses2.jpg)

Matias, that is the first time I have ever seen a poster for Girls For Sale
I'm not sure if the film is available on DVD or tape, but I recommend it highly, Dita Parlo, whose most famous role is in Grand Illusion, is a fantastic actress. I'd love to find a copy myself as I haven't seen the movie in at least 30 years and probably more like 35-40
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: brude on December 06, 2011, 07:35:28 PM
That is a great piece of poster paper, Matias.  Wow!  thumbup
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: 110x75 on December 06, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
Matias, that is the first time I have ever seen a poster for Girls For Sale
I'm not sure if the film is available on DVD or tape, but I recommend it highly, Dita Parlo, whose most famous role is in Grand Illusion, is a fantastic actress. I'd love to find a copy myself as I haven't seen the movie in at least 30 years and probably more like 35-40

Rich, you`re not reading my blog then nono (http://110x75.blogspot.com/2011/10/bailarinas-para-buenos-ayres.html (http://110x75.blogspot.com/2011/10/bailarinas-para-buenos-ayres.html))
I`ve seen so far a spanish one sheet and a herald, this belgian, and austrian and german programs.
I bought this one a few years back. I had never heard of or seen the film. The "Buenos Ayres" in the title caught my eye and had to get it. I later found that, in the film, Parlo is taken to Argentina with false promises of work, to become a prostitute. Altough the story is fictional, it was a common practice here in that era (The year before the film was made, a huge network of polish pimps was finally dismantled after years of ruling the prostitution underworld of Buenos Aires...) 
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 06, 2011, 08:49:31 PM
I wish I had time to read all teh blogs out there

that Argentinian poster is killer
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: 110x75 on December 06, 2011, 08:59:28 PM
I wish I had time to read all teh blogs out there

that Argentinian poster is killer

I was just kidding Rich  ;)
The poster is spanish and yes, it`s killer -and sadly not mine-
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Mondo Hazardo on December 07, 2011, 01:44:57 AM
actually Wim, it IS a separate language. I am of direct Belgian lineage (in other words, I'm a first generation American on one side of the family) and ((2nd genetaion on the other)) and so I have knowledge of this issue.

the Dutch language is actually Flanders
Flemish is the international version of the Dutch language and is commonly spoken in Belgium as well as Switzerland and Germany and even in some parts of France, as such it has some modifications of Flanders so that people in those other regions better understand the language

Well Rich, it's the other way around. Linguistically Flemish is considered to be one of four varieties of the Dutch language (did not know there were four, had to look it up). We Dutch have earned that right by building ships around the sixteenth century, kill and plunder along the globe and be a bit of a world power in our time. I can assure you that the international language (if such a thing existed which I doubt) would be called Dutch. In any international treaty with official languages it is called Dutch, not Flemish, irrespective if the words are uttered by a German or Swiss. Attributing factor to this is that Belgium unfortunately is involved in a longtime language division which ensured that there are a lot of Belgians who don't speak or want to speak Dutch. It's the main factor why they did not manage to form a government for over a year and a half. What is true and what I think is charming is that Flemish used to be more authentic by resisting foreign words for modern phenomena like computer adopting a more German type of construction of making long words with lots of syllables.
Let me add to this that I'm in no way a nationalist and i really do not care if we "have" the official language or not.
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on December 07, 2011, 03:31:26 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemish
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on December 13, 2011, 09:11:34 PM
Well I received it. here it is.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc46/big_mike667/IMGP0202.jpg)
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: Crazy Vick on April 07, 2016, 09:15:07 AM
I was in belgium once and got a nasty cold...you could say I was a bit phlegmish
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: erik1925 on April 07, 2016, 12:28:47 PM
Well I received it. here it is.

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc46/big_mike667/IMGP0202.jpg)

Cool poster, there, Mike.

Interesting, too, that it has some English text on it, too. At the top, it looks like it says, "A Film By Alex de la Iglesia"

And then in the bottom text block: "Written and Directed By"

Is there any printer's name or info on it anywhere?
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on March 15, 2017, 03:03:40 PM
Thanks Jeff,

, Yes I still have the poster. Holding on to that one as well.
I don't have any info, but I don't think it was a French poster. It is the size of a Thierry hates "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "French Grande""", but its not french. I will have to take a closer look when I have the poster out.

""Over the last few years, smaller distributors in Belgium have been using poster plates that were sent from the studios and printing them in Belgium. For example, if the film is coming from France, they may get the French plates for the Grande (47x63) and print it in Belgium to distribute. Then you would have a 47x63 French poster but it will have a Belgium printers tag. This saves money for the small distributor because he then does not have to pay for layout, drafting and artists to create the new posters and then the expense of having the plates made. So even though the printing cost may be slightly more, it eliminates all the pre-printing costs."" from LAMP
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: erik1925 on March 15, 2017, 03:41:34 PM
Thanks for the info and blurb from LAMP, too.

I think if you find any printer's info on it, that may help solve the COO question, too.
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
Thanks Jeff,

, Yes I still have the poster. Holding on to that one as well.
I don't have any info, but I don't think it was a French poster. It is the size of a Thierry hates "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "Thierry hates "French Grande"""""", but its not french. I will have to take a closer look when I have the poster out.

""Over the last few years, smaller distributors in Belgium have been using poster plates that were sent from the studios and printing them in Belgium. For example, if the film is coming from France, they may get the French plates for the Grande (47x63) and print it in Belgium to distribute. Then you would have a 47x63 French poster but it will have a Belgium printers tag. This saves money for the small distributor because he then does not have to pay for layout, drafting and artists to create the new posters and then the expense of having the plates made. So even though the printing cost may be slightly more, it eliminates all the pre-printing costs."" from LAMP

Any news or new findings on this poster, Mike? Did you give it another close inspection?
Title: Re: Belgian Posters??
Post by: bigmike on April 19, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
Hey Jeff.

I still have them in storage. So next time I pull the posters out. I will do an inspection of the poster for you and see if we can come up with any information.

Mike