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Title: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: stewart boyle on June 06, 2011, 02:11:34 PM
Now where to find £2 million to buy it...
For Sale (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/blockbusters-of-cinemas-arthouse-2293488.html)

Stew
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: brude on June 06, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
Now where to find £2 million to buy it...
For Sale (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/blockbusters-of-cinemas-arthouse-2293488.html)

Stew

We should all chip in some moolah and divvy the piles up.
They can be shipped to me here in Syracuse, NY.
I'll ship out what's left over...  wynk
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 08, 2011, 03:38:26 PM
The Dwight Cleveland collection. Interesting to see his breakdown by quantity and value (8140 posters are less than $500 ea):

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5278/5812282807_8e4040d8dc_z.jpg)


Here is his complete Value/Appraised List with the top 12 in bold:

King Kong (1933) Swedish    50,000

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) US 1-S on Linen    20,000

Horse Feathers (1932) US 3-S    15,000

Razor’s Edge, The (1946) US 1-S Style B on Linen    15,000

Stormy Weather (1943)(F) US 1-S  12,500

Beau Geste (1939) US 1-S Style A on Linen    12,000

Rebecca (1940) US 1-S on Linen    12,000

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) US Insert    12,000

Sullivan’s Travels (1941) US 1-S    12,000

Free and Easy (1930) US HS    11,000

Pardon Us (1931)(F) US 1-S on Linen    10,000

Swing Time (1936) US 1-S on Linen    10,000

Forbidden Planet (1956) US 1-S    9750
You Can’t Cheat an Honest Man (1939) US 1-S on Linen    8750
Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961) US 1-S On Linen    8500
Window Cleaners (1940) US 1-S    8000
Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (1936) US 1-S on Linen    7500
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) US 1-S Style B on Linen    7500
Pride of the Yankees, The (1942)(F) US OS on Linen  7,500
Rebel Without a Cause (1955) US 1-S    7500
Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956) US OS on Linen   7000
Moulin Rouge (1934) US 1-S on Linen    7000
This Gun for Hire (1942) US 3-S    6250
City Streets (1931) US 1-S on Linen    6000
Gun Crazy (1950) US 1-S    6000
Rear Window (1954) US 1-S on Linen    6000
Sunset Boulevard (1950) Polish    6000
You’ll Never Get Rich (1941) Italian on Linen    6000
Rebel Without a Cause (1955) US 3-S    5750
Beau Geste (1939) US Standee    5500
Camille (1936) US 1-S Style B    5500
Adventures of Captain Marvel (1941) US Banner on Linen    5000
Adventures of Robin Hood, The (1938) US MWC    5000
Dark Victory (1939) Italian on Linen    5000
Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (1941) US 1-S    5000
Goldfinger (1964) UK 24-S    5000
Hollywood Revue (1929) US HS    5000
Roaring Twenties, The (1939)    5000
Shanghai Express (1932) US HS    5000
Sympathy for the Devil (1968) 34x47”  5000
Tonight and Every Night (1945)  Italian on Linen    5000
Lifeboat (1944)(F) US 1-S    4950
Bete Humaine, La (1938) French 4 Panel    4500
Casablanca (1942) Japanese    4500
Story of Vernon and Irene Castle, The (1939) US 1-S Style B on Linen    4500
Housewife (1934) US 1-S    4250
Lone Ranger Rides Again, The (1939) 3-Sheet on Linen  4000
Man from Wyoming, A (1930) US 1-S Style A on Linen    4000
Midnight Cowboy (1969) Polish    4000
Scarlet Empress, The (1934) US WC    4000
Sisters, The (1938) US 1-S on Linen    4000
Superman and the Mole Men (1961) US Banner    4000
Suzy (1936) US    3750
To Have and Have Not (1944) US 1-S on Linen    3750
Belle of the Nineties (1934)US Half Sheet    3500
Day at the Races, A (1937) US    3500
Desire (1936) US LC    3500
Girl from Missouri, The (1934)(F) Spanish on Linen    3500
Jailhouse Rock (1957) US 1-S    3500
Red Headed Woman (1932) US LC    3500
Salle de L’Etoile - French on Linen    3500
Singin’ in the Rain (1952) US 1-S on Linen    3500
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) Argentinean on Linen    3500
Spellbound (1945) Italian on Linen    3500
This Island, Earth (1955) US 1-S on Linen    3250
39 Steps, The (1935/R-1937) US 1-S    3000
Barbarella (1968) Argentinean on Linen    3000
Cabaret (1972) Polish    3000
General Died at Dawn, The (1936) US 3-S on Linen    3000
Great Guy (1936) French 2-Panel    3000
Hound of the Baskervilles, The (1939) Window Card    3000
House on Haunted Hill (1959) US 1-S    3000
Parachute Jumper (1933) US TC    3000
Shane (1953) US 1-S    3000
Tales of Hoffman, The (1951) British    3000
When You’re Married (1914/RR) US    3000
Jailhouse Rock (1957)(F) US Standee    2750
Key Largo (1948)(F) US 1-S on Linen    2750
Against All Odds (1924) US 1-S    2500
City for Conquest (1940) US 1-S on Linen    2500
Deer Hunter, The (1978) US 24-S 2500    2500
Flame of New Orleans, The (1941) Italian on Linen    2500
For a Few Dollars More (1967) Japanese    2500
Gilda (1950) American    2500
Hart, William S. (F) Stock US 3-S on Linen    2500
Heaven Can Wait (1943) Italian on Linen    2500
Jailhouse Rock (1957) Japanese    2500
Ladies of the Chorus (1948) Italian on Linen    2500
Lost Squadron, The (1932) French 63x94 on Linen    2500
Love (1927) US WC    2500
Love Before Breakfast (1936) Swedish on Linen    2500
Miracle on 34th Street (1947) US 3-S    2500
Niagara (1953) US 1-S on Linen    2500
Peeping Tom (1960) British Quad    2500
Puttin’ on the Ritz (1930) US 3-S    2500
Rebel Without a Cause (1955) Italian    2500
Roman Holiday (1953) US 1-S    2500
Safety Last (1923) US LC    2500
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) US 1-S Style A on Linen    2500
Something to Sing About (1937) French    2500
Stormy Weather (1943)(F) US Insert    2500
Strangers on a Train (1951) US 1-S on Linen    2500
Tarantula (1955) American    2500
Thing From Another World, The (1951)(F) US Banner    2500
Third Man, The (1949) US 1-S    2500
To Catch a Thief (1955) US 1-S on Linen    2500
Warming Up (1928) US HS Style B    2500
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 08, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
Interesting to look at, too, is his density by film title. He must LOVE CHINATOWN & STAR WARS  :D :

Over 45

Chinatown (1974)   48
Star Wars (1977)   46

Over 30

Midnight Cowboy (1969)    32
Bridge On The River Kwai (1957)    31
E.T. (1982)    30

Over 20

Bambi (1942)   29
Fistful of Dollars (1967)    29
101 Dalmations (1961)    28
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)    28
Dirty Harry (1971)    27
Highlander (1986)    27
Rebel Without a Cause (1955)    26
Downhill Racer (1969)    24
Aristocats (1970)   23
For a Few Dollars More (1967)    23
Gandhi (1982)    23
Goodfellas (1990)    22
Mad Max (1980)    22
Chariots of Fire (1981)    21
Jungle Book (1967)    21
Rocky (1967)    21
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)    21
Wizard of Oz (1939)    21
Magnificent 7, The (1960)    20
Planet of the Apes (1968)    20
Psycho (1960)    20
Ten Commandments (1956)    20
Untouchables, The (1987)    20

Over 15

Casablanca (1943)    19
Giant (1956)    19
Lolita (1962)    19
Silence of the Lambs (1991)    19
Unforgiven (1992)   19
Bad (1977)    18
Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, The (1968)    18
African Queen, The (1951)    17
Goldfinger (1964)    17
Gone With the Wind (1939)    17
Magnum Force (1973)    17
Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)    17
Raging Bull (1980)    17
Schindler's List (1993)    17
Terminator (1984)    17
Blade Runner (1982)    16
Hang Em' High (1968)    16
Last Emperor, The (1987)    16
Return of the Jedi (1983)    16
Cabaret (1972)    15
Cinderella (1950)    15
Die Hard (1988)    15
Easy Rider (1969)    15
Enforcer, The (1977)    15
Great Escape, The (1963)    15
Once Upon a Time in the West (1969)    15
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)    15
Prince and the Showgirl, The (1957)    15
To Catch a Thief (1956)    15

Over 10

Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid (1969)    14
Diamonds Are Forever (1971)    14
From Here to Eternity (1953)    14
Graduate, The (1968)    14
It's a Mad Mad Mad World (1963)    14
Moby Dick (1956)    14
Wuthering Heights (1939)    14
Big Jake (1971)    13
Citizen Kane (1941)    13
Gilda (1946)    13
King Kong (1976)    13
My Fair Lady (1964)    13
Once Upon a Time in America (1984)    13
Postman Always Rings Twice, The (1981)    13
Rollercoaster Rabbit (1989)    13
Song of the South (1946)    13
Springfield Rifle (1952)    13
True Grit (1969)    13
Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)    12
Capone (1975)    12
Cleopatra (1963)    12
Deer Hunter (1978)    12
Ghost and the Darkness (1996)    12
King Kong (1933)    12
Officer & A Gentleman, An (1982)    12
Shining, The (1980)    12
Sleeping Beauty (1962)    12
12 Angry Men (1957)    12
War of the Worlds (1953)    12
West Side Story (1961)    12
Al Capone (1959)    11
Baby Doll (1956)    11
Bullit    11
Clockwork Orange (1972)    11
Enter The Dragon (1973)    11
Flying Leathernecks (1951)    11
French Connection, The (1971)    11
Help! (1965)    11
High Noon (1952)    11
In Old Chicago (1938)    11
Joe Kidd (1972)    11
Last Tango in Paris (1972)    11
O Lucky Man! (1973)    11
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)    11
Singin' in the Rain (1952)    11
Sting (1973)    11
Streetcar Named Desire, A (1951)    11
Terms of Endearment (1983)    11
Vera Cruz (1954)    11
Adventures of Robin Hood, The (1938)    10
Apocalypse Now (1979)    10
Blues Brothers (1980)    10
Bonnie and Clyde (1967)    10
Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (1965)    10
Fish Called Wanda, A (1988)    10
Flying Tigers (1942)    10
Grand Hotel (1932)    10
Heaven's Gate (1981)    10
High Plains Drifter (1973)    10
House on Haunted Hill (1959)    10
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)    10
Let It Be (1970)    10
Rebecca (1940)    10
Space Jam (1996)    10
Two Face Women (1944)    10
Walk the Proud Land (1956)    10
Wild Bunch, The (1969)    10
Willie Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)    10

Over 5

Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961)    9
Dick Tracy    9
Empire Strikes Back (1980)   9
Hustler (1961)    9
It Conquered the World (1956)   9
Jaws (1975)    9
Moon over Burma (1940)    9
Never Say Never (1983)    9
1941 (1979)   9
Red Line 7000   9
Saratoga Trunk (1945)   9
Saturday Night Fever (1977)   9
Searchers, The (1956)    9
Shane (1953)    9
Some Like It Hot (1959)   9
Son of The Shiek (1926)   9
Birds, The (1963)    8
Butterfield 8 (1960)   8
Camille (1936)   8
Exorcist (1974)    8
For Whom the Bell Tolls (1943)    8
Grease (1978)   8
Hard Day's Night (1964)    8
Lady and the Tramp (1955)   8
Matrix Reloaded, The (2003) US 1-S   8
Midnight (1934)   8
North By Northwest (1959)    8
Pale Rider (1985)   8
Pinocchio (1940)   8
Poseidon Adventure (1972)    8
Redhead From Wyoming, The (1953)    8
Saratoga (1937)   8
Seven Year Itch, The (1955)    8
Sound of Music (1965)    8
Taxi Driver (1976)    8
Big Sleep, The (1946)   7
Blue Velvet (1986)   7
Dances With Wolves (1990)    7
Deliverance (1972)   7
Dr. No (1962)   7
Eagle, The (1925)   7
East of Eden (1955)    7
Fantasia (1940)   7
From Russia With Love (1964)   7
Great Gatsby (1974)   7
Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)   7
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)   7
Jaws 2 (1978)    7
Kramer Vs. Kramer (1979)    7
Le Mans (1971)   7
Man Who Knew Too Much, The (1956)   7
Network (1976)   7
Nine 1/2 Weeks (1986)    7
Oceans 11 (1960)    7
Outlaw, The (1941)   7
Peeping Tom (1960)    7
Platoon (1986)    7
Pulp Fiction    7
Rio Bravo (1959)    7
Slap Shot (1977)   7
Spellbound (1945)   7
Towering Inferno (1974)   7
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954)    7
Voltaire (1933)   7
Wait Until Dark (1967)   7
Wanderer of the Wasteland (1935)   7
Z (1969)   7
All The President's Men (1976)   6
Animal House (1978)   6
Barbarella (1968)    6
Belle de Jour (1967)    6
Ben Hur (1959)   6
Conquest (1937)    6
Cover Girl (1944)    6
Cowboys, The (1972)   6
Dirty Dozen, The (1967)   6
Electric Horsemen (1979)    6
Everything You Wanted To Know About Sex (1972)   6
Fame (1980)    6
Friday the 13th (1980)   6
Glenn Miller Story (1954)   6
Godfather II (1974)   6
Gunga Din (1939)   6
House of Wax (1953)   6
Man With the Golden Arm, The (1955)   6
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971)   6
Mean Streets (1973)   6
My Darling Clementine (1946)   6
Nashville (1976)    6
On Golden Pond (1981)   6
Persona (1967)   6
Public Enemy, The (1931)    6
Rare Breed (1966)    6
Red River (1948)   6
River of No Return (1954)   6
Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)    6
Roma (1972)   6
Scarface (1983)    6
Sex, Lies, And Videotape (1989)   6
Shootist, The (1976)    6
Silverado (1985)   6
Splash (1984)   6
Sunset Boulevard (1950)   6
Train Robbers (1973)   6
Underwater! (1956)   6
Wolf of Wall Street (1929)   6
Yellow Submarine (1968)   6
All That Jazz (1979)   5
American Graffiti (1973)   5
Annie Hall (1977)   5
Beau Geste (1939)   5
Beverly Hills Cop (1984)   5
Blazing Saddles (1974)   5
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (1969)   5
Body Heat (1981)    5
Brazil (1985)   5
Bunny Lake Is Missing (1965)    5
Caddy Shack (1980)   5
Caligula (1983)   5
Carrie (1976)   5
Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958)   5
Che! (1969)    5
Chisum (1970)   5
City Lights (1931)   5
Cool Hand Luke (1967)    5
Deep Throat (1973)   5
Doctor Zhivago (1965)   5
Dressed To Kill (1980)   5
Duel In The Sun (1948)   5
Egyptian, The (1954)    5
Eyes Wide Shut (1999)   5
Flame of New Orleans   5
Flashdance (1983)   5
Foul Play (1978)   5
Game of Death (1979)   5
General Died at Dawn, The (1936)   5
Gigi (1958)   5
Grand Prix (1967)   5
House of Dark Shadows (1970)   5
Intermezzo (1939)   5
Jeremiah Johnson (1972)   5
Joan of Arc (1950)   5
Key Largo (1948)   5
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)   5
Man Who Fell To Earth, The (1976)   5
Moulin Rouge (1953)   5
New York, New York (1977)   5
Night at the Opera (1935)   5
On the Waterfront (1954)   5
Papillon (1973)   5
Passage to India (1984)   5
Passage to Marseille (1944)   5
Predator   5
Razor's Edge (1946)   5
Rear Window (1954)    5
Repulsion (1965)   5
Sacco & Vanzetti (1971)   5
Salvador (1986)   5
Seargeants 3 (1962)   5
Sergeant York (1941)   5
Sicilian Clan (1969)   5
Somewhere in Time (1980)   5
Star Trek (1979)   5
Superfly (1972)   5
Swan, The (1956)   5
Take the Money and Run (1969)   5
Third Man, The (1949)   5
Thunderball (1965)   5
To Have and Have Not (1944)    5
Too Hot to Handle (1938)    5
Young Frankenstein (1974)   5
You Only Live Twice (1967)
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: CSM on June 08, 2011, 03:46:22 PM
This could easily start another debate on defining "value"...
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 08, 2011, 03:59:49 PM
Indeed. It will be interesting to see if his 3.5M appraised value will be re-evaluated at all.

As but one example that I quickly looked up-- Heritage sold a Style B SNOW WHITE, on linen (described as VF), during their March 25, 2011 auction, for $9560.00 (inc the BP). That is certainly a little different than Cleveland's $20,000.00 stated value for his own Style B copy.

Jeff

ps- This is not written as a "swipe" or a negative but simply as a price comparative.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: CSM on June 08, 2011, 04:40:20 PM
As but one example that I quickly looked up-- Heritage sold a Style B SNOW WHITE, on linen (described as VF), during their March 25, 2011 auction, for $9560.00 (inc the BP). That is certainly a little different than Cleveland's $20,000.00 stated value for his own Style B copy.

Jeff

AND it begins!  Of course there is no personal poster bias - why would there be?  ;)
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Harry Caul on June 08, 2011, 05:26:18 PM
Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961) US 1-S On Linen    8500

Are you shitting me?  $3k-5k these days. 
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2011, 05:39:32 PM
AND it begins!  Of course there is no personal poster bias - why would there be?  ;)

Chris.. there are some people who are never satisfied about someone's prices unless it's the very price they wish to pay, or what some donkey who spends little or nothing thinks about what everyone's prices, regardless of a variety of criteria that different dealers and collectors to price their own material, owned by them and no one else. Stuff like this also generally comes from people who contribute little or nothing to the business of posters, or don't even have the ability to post original thoughts on forums and only regurgitate things told them by others as well as the usual pablum. They exist on all forums where even the small-minded can have a loud voice.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2011, 05:41:33 PM
oh by the way.. Dwight's evaluations may be high - if you only consider nit-picked auction results.
However, if you consider prices in collector's stores (of all kinds) and galleries as well as other retail sources available on the web and via advertising, the gap between high and outrageous narrows considerably. Dwight's list has retail prices.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 08, 2011, 06:14:16 PM
Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961) US 1-S On Linen    8500

Are you shitting me?  $3k-5k these days. 

Matt,

I'm sure values will be all over the board, based on various parameters and available past sales records. That is why, as a quick cross-reference and example, I looked up the Heritage price for SNOW WHITE.

Jeff
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: CSM on June 08, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
Chris.. there are some people who are never satisfied about someone's prices unless it's the very price they wish to pay, or what some donkey who spends little or nothing thinks about what everyone's prices, regardless of a variety of criteria that different dealers and collectors to price their own material, owned by them and no one else. Stuff like this also generally comes from people who contribute little or nothing to the business of posters, or don't even have the ability to post original thoughts on forums and only regurgitate things told them by others as well as the usual pablum. They exist on all forums where even the small-minded can have a loud voice.

Can we agree that generally collectors will naturally tend to "value" posters in their own collections on the higher end of whatever scale they want to use?

Part of this may be in hopes of realizing a profit but I think mainly it is as a result of some level of attachment...
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2011, 08:43:34 PM
Can we agree that generally collectors will naturally tend to "value" posters in their own collections on the higher end of whatever scale they want to use?

Part of this may be in hopes of realizing a profit but I think mainly it is as a result of some level of attachment...

those are some of the issues surrounding how anyone prices stuff. Another factor is the "I don't want to undersell it so someone else can make money on it". Whatever it sells for, you should be happy. If someone else sells it for more - more power to them..
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: CSM on June 08, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
But Rich there is a clear difference between valuing and selling (pricing might be a more accurate term).

As for this Cleveland collection - I may have missed it but is there any sort of disclaimer on where his "values" have come from - i.e. independent appraisal or simply HIS valuations?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2011, 09:28:09 PM
But Rich there is a clear difference between valuing and selling (pricing might be a more accurate term).

I didn't say otherwise


As for this Cleveland collection - I may have missed it but is there any sort of disclaimer on where his "values" have come from - i.e. independent appraisal or simply HIS valuations?

who cares? This is Dwight's stuff.. He can evaluate it anyway that he wishes. If a no-knowledge potential buyer wishes to call in a 3rd party appraiser for his own purposes, he sure can, but that won't and shouldn't matter to Dwight.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Ari on June 08, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
I wonder, and have to HOW to value collections, as some may know, last year my wife of 17 years gave me the boot. My posters have mainly come during our mariage. And legally I owe her half their value. But how to get a value? its easy for run of the mill things like a fridge or washing machine, all; the stuff she took, but for me to give a value on what i took, books and posters, who can do it? I can pay someone to value it, someone who has no idea. I can do myself, but do i value on what it might sell for (MIGHT) or what people ASK for..? or what it cost me? all very different. And if what I COULD sell for, does that take into account the hours of work behind the sale/s?
Values are worthless, until sold. meantime, I slog away and sell what i can and send her the $
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 08, 2011, 10:23:49 PM
last year my wife of 17 years gave me the boot. My posters have mainly come during our mariage. And legally I owe her half their value.

sorry to hear that Ari..
and valuation?
figure replacement value +/-
ask Unca Phil to value it
or John Cioffi
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on June 08, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
I wonder, and have to HOW to value collections, as some may know, last year my wife of 17 years gave me the boot. My posters have mainly come during our mariage. And legally I owe her half their value. But how to get a value?

For divorce purposes since you have so many why not value them at net consignment recovery?  Assume you shipped everything to a consignor, what would you realistically get back?  Would the consigner sell most of your posters as a bulk lot? Factor in the shipping costs to the consignor too.  

Somebody else on this board - with a huge collection - told me 60% of his stuff was effectively worthless.  That's the same with me.  The net consignment recovery is effectively zero for low value posters because the shipping expenses exceed the recovery.  Unless you want to drive yourself crazy selling individual low-value posters for $.99, it's just not worth it.

Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Ari on June 08, 2011, 10:35:24 PM
i see some items I have that are not available ANYWHERE, nothing valuable but things that cant be replaced, and others are for sale, for silly prices. I could ask Phil, but then she knows its my friend and i could say whatever value I want.
Anyways, worse things happen at sea. i am tempted to do a blind split and say YOU SELL THEM.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: CSM on June 08, 2011, 11:04:11 PM
i see some items I have that are not available ANYWHERE, nothing valuable but things that cant be replaced, and others are for sale, for silly prices. I could ask Phil, but then she knows its my friend and i could say whatever value I want.
Anyways, worse things happen at sea. i am tempted to do a blind split and say YOU SELL THEM.

Ari, might be too personal a question and if so please don't answer but is she actually asking you for 1/2 the value of all your posters/collectibles?  Are you being forced to liquidate them or are you selling because you feel "it is the right thing to do"?

Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: 50s on June 09, 2011, 04:33:28 AM
Someone needs to appraise them I think. However that sounds like big costs - either through a stocktake or shipping them to appraiser, or flying someone to your remote part of the earth.

Possibly the effort (converted to cost) and costs to sell them may be more than what you'd get for them, and it might take 200 years to sell them.

Giving the ex half of them I think is the go. Surely it would be too much hassle/$ on her end to liquidate her half and she might say just keep em
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: stewart boyle on June 09, 2011, 04:53:23 AM
i see some items I have that are not available ANYWHERE, nothing valuable but things that cant be replaced, and others are for sale, for silly prices. I could ask Phil, but then she knows its my friend and i could say whatever value I want.
Anyways, worse things happen at sea. i am tempted to do a blind split and say YOU SELL THEM.

Thats what i would do too Ari,if your ex is the one pushing the subject i would insist that both your lawyers agree an independent appraiser and have her cover the cost of this,if thats not agreeable its a straight 50/50 and she could use em for wrapping paper.
Vindictive..maybe..but i would also insist she was present so i could go through every single one and ask..do you want this one?? if so i want this one....

Stew
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on June 09, 2011, 05:32:44 AM
actually Ari.. probably the best solution is for you to figure out what it's worth to you to buy out her half and offer her regardless of any values. Then you can just pay her off without worrying about it over whatever agreed time period.. She'll probably be interested in knowing she gets $xxx a month from you or whatever

otherwise, I say you price sticker every item in the collection, lay it all out in one cohesive way in a room and have a "pick-off". I take a $500 poster, you take a $500 poster,  I take a $400 poster, you take a $400 poster,  I take a $100 poster, you take a $100 poster,  I take a pile of posters worth $500, you take a pile of posters worth $500.. until they are all chosen.. then she'll say.. "Ari dear.. what will you give me for all this shit I now have that I really have no ferkin idea what to do with", or she won't and the sale of her material will be her headache
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: ddilts399 on June 09, 2011, 11:17:49 AM
Dwight should sell off all the dupes and let a feeding frenzy happen, then keep the singles to go to one person if he is really worried about that.

Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: brude on June 10, 2011, 12:29:40 AM
Giving the ex half of them I think is the go. Surely it would be too much hassle/$ on her end to liquidate her half and she might say just keep em

Nawwww...Ari should send her those oogly Greek video posters from the Video Poster thread and tell her that's all that's left...
I would.
 wynk
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,515.msg36549.html#msg36549 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,515.msg36549.html#msg36549)
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on July 10, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
So whatever happened with this?  I thought his site said "must be sold by July 1"?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Silhouette on February 03, 2012, 08:49:56 PM
Just wondering the same thing...with the AUD$ worth a whole lot more than the USD$ at the moment looks like I can pick up a bargain...if he is up for a little negotiating... :)
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 15, 2012, 02:41:34 PM
I happened to come across this article from March 19, 2012, that was printed in the Bangor Daily News. Dwight Cleveland had 84 posters in the March 23-24th Heritage auction, too. Even tho this article is 3 months old, it is interesting to read that Cleveland may opt to sell parts of his collection piecemeal, if he cant find a buyer for the entire collection.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/19/living/devoted-movie-poster-collector-sees-an-art-form-waiting-to-be-discovered/

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Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: TheAnswerMVP2001 on June 15, 2012, 06:17:14 PM
What... no Italian Marisa Mell posters... what kind of collection is that!?!  ;D
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on January 29, 2013, 03:43:11 PM


Academy Announces Major Gift of Movie Posters

BEVERLY HILLS, CA – The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences is pleased to announce that it has received a gift of 1,088 original movie posters from the golden age of Hollywood filmmaking.  The posters have been donated by Dwight Cleveland, a Chicago real estate developer, who has amassed one of the largest and most historically significant collections of movie posters in the world.

The donated posters document the studio era of “B” movie filmmaking in the first half of the 20th century and include examples from Twentieth Century-Fox.  A variety of genres are represented, including westerns, war films, musicals, biblical tales, and social problem films.

The gift, which will be housed in the Academy’s Margaret Herrick Library, fills some significant gaps in the Academy’s collection.  “B-movies tap into the public consciousness and provide rich fodder for better understanding the times,” said Margaret Herrick Library Director Linda Mehr.

Mr. Cleveland began collecting in 1977 while still in high school, inspired after seeing film posters in an art teacher’s classroom.  After moving to Los Angeles, Cleveland scoured the once-plentiful collector’s shops on Hollywood Boulevard for high-quality memorabilia.  He continues to collect today. 

“I really think that film posters are one of the very few truly indigenous art forms of our country,” Mr. Cleveland said.  “By making these gifts, I hope to excite an appreciation for the works themselves among members of the general public and also set a good example for other collectors.”

“Dwight’s collection was a dream to receive.  Not only was it very well organized, but the posters also were in excellent shape.  Our staff is fairly certain he was a librarian in another lifetime,” said Anne Coco, the Herrick’s graphic arts librarian.

The Cleveland collection has been meticulously cataloged, conserved and photographed.  Posters in the library’s collections are stored in climate-controlled vaults in Beverly Hills and may be accessed by filmmakers, historians, journalists, students and the general public.  They are frequently shown at the Academy’s own exhibitions and loaned to cultural institutions worldwide.

http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2013/20130129a.html

Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Filmlobbycards on February 08, 2013, 02:26:21 AM
Well he sure as shit didn't sell the Marx Brothers Horse Feathers 3sheet for 10 grand at heritage..but I will give him 5 grand right now for it..in the "if you do the math" world that's only about a grand or so less than he woulda received minus buyer and seller premiums if the final total was $10,000.. And I will buy the beers!!
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2014, 02:50:35 PM
A more recent Chicago news interview (WGN) with Dwight Cleveland. Note at the end of the report how the reporter at the desk says, "some of these can sell for as much as a $1000.00 a piece."

I think he might be a little low.  ;)

https://screen.yahoo.com/chicago-man-owns-largest-movie-163036511.html
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: jedgerley on May 30, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
he says the schindlers list poster is from the country of origin.......
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Ari on May 30, 2014, 10:46:24 PM
he says the schindlers list poster is from the country of origin.......

USA ?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on May 30, 2014, 10:49:51 PM
USA ?

Israel... so Cleveland thought....  :-\
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Ari on May 30, 2014, 11:04:22 PM
Oh.  Oops.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: crowzilla on June 02, 2014, 03:40:52 AM
Shouldn't this be in the dealer roundtable section?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on June 02, 2014, 03:44:59 AM
Yup.. makes sense.

This thread was created well before that sub-section existed.  ;)
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Movie Poster Exchange on June 26, 2014, 11:06:10 AM
I'm saving my money for the Morrie Everett lobby card collection in the Profiles auction in October. 1 lot. Opening bid/reserve 5 million.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Louie D. on June 26, 2014, 03:56:01 PM
I'm saving my money for the Morrie Everett lobby card collection in the Profiles auction in October. 1 lot. Opening bid/reserve 5 million.

Wow! He's selling out?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Movie Poster Exchange on June 26, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
Just his personal lobby card collection. He will still have his dealer inventory. Very odd auction format. What happens if there is no opening bid?
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Louie D. on June 27, 2014, 12:47:29 AM
Just his personal lobby card collection. He will still have his dealer inventory. Very odd auction format. What happens if there is no opening bid?

Damn, I had a lengthy convo with him at Cinefest a couple of years ago and he informed me he had a bunch of LC's which I would certainly love to own.
 
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on April 10, 2015, 11:26:19 PM
Seems Dwight Cleveland IS selling ...  :o

as posted to MOPO this afternoon:


World’s Largest and Most Diverse Film Poster Collection To Be Sold Individually At Auction
Vast Collection of Classic, Quirky and Hard-to-Find Movie Posters Available for Purchase

Starting on April 12th, the world’s largest collection of unique movie posters will be available for purchase, many for the first time in the US.
 
Each of the items will be auctioned now through June 15th by the premier on-line movie memorabilia site: www.emovieposter.com.
 
For over 39 years, film-lover Dwight M. Cleveland traveled around the world in search of rare movie posters. Cleveland says, “This collection comprises 20,000 posters from 58 countries and is sure to have something for everyone. These posters reflect decades of pop culture and Hollywood treasures. Unlike most collectors, I was drawn to the strong graphics of foreign posters. So, this archive reflects not only the way we see ourselves thought film, but how foreigners see us through film as well.”
 
With posters representing 115 years of film history and spanning every movie genre, this collection is the most comprehensive representation of the film industry that exists today. The posters span the globe, including famous American films as represented in Australia, India, Japan, Poland, England and more, allowing the buyer to compare and contrast film imagery across cultures.
 
Cleveland says, “The objective was trying to assemble as many posters from around the world from the most famous films of all time. Over half of them are from Academy Award Best Picture Winners, the American Film Institute Top-100 and Internet Movie Database Top-100 Films. Nearly every film nominated for any Academy Award is included. Many popular favorites and cult films are included as well.”
 
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: 50s on April 11, 2015, 12:02:30 AM
Sounds like Bruce has hit the jackpot and HA gets a slap in the face. Good for Bruce  thumbsup.gif . I wonder if Bruce will now give up selling $3 posters
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: eatbrie on April 11, 2015, 12:15:58 AM
I only hope that they're not all linenbacked like what Bruce is offering in his next 3 auctions, because I won't be purchasing much.

T
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2015, 12:29:40 AM
It will be interesting to see how many of the Cleveland Collection Dwight did back over the years.   hmmm.gif
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: crowzilla on April 11, 2015, 02:50:00 AM
Interesting for many reasons.

1) Just fun to see how close to his $3.5 million value the collection sells for.
2) Bruce says there are 20,000 posters being auctioned, but the articles above say that he has 35,000 posters in his collection. What happened to the other 15,000?
3) How is this collection in any way larger than Morrie's collection where the goal was to have a piece of paper on very film ever made and has at a minimum 3x as many pieces
4) We know he already sold many pieces through Heritage, is he still holding some back?
5) Even though it says starting April 12, I'm pretty sure that many of the items Bruce sold in the last week or two are from Dwight's collection (like the Wolf Song lobby mentioned in an article above).

That said it will be exciting to see some of these pieces come up, the large Italian Casablanca, the War of the Worlds quad (I'll bid on that if it's nice), the Barn Dance poster and a few of the others should do well even if they fall short of their Heritage potential.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: Simes on April 11, 2015, 06:14:42 AM
Sounds like Bruce has hit the jackpot and HA gets a slap in the face. Good for Bruce  thumbsup.gif . I wonder if Bruce will now give up selling $3 posters

Indeed, well done for Bruce.

This plus Morrie's collection auction in (from) June will be sure to make this an interesting year for collectors.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2015, 05:18:10 PM
Indeed, well done for Bruce.

This plus Morrie's collection auction in (from) June will be sure to make this an interesting year for collectors.

Seems to be pretty smooth sailing on the "sell up" so far.

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Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: crowzilla on November 10, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
I guess we have seen now it wasn't a slap in the face to HA and that Bruce didn't get all of Dwight's collection (things like the Italian Casablanca and Swedish King Kong being in this latest HA auction).  I wonder what else he has held out?
Regardless, definitely a smart move to give the better items to Heritage.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on November 10, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
Seems like Dwight was spreading his goodies around.

A good idea and strategy, I'd say (and for those collectors that don't want (or like) paying the added BP, for example).
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2016, 10:36:43 PM
I clicked on Dwight Cleveland's website, just to check it out. The site is still up but this also appeared on my screen, as kind of an overlay. Seems Dwight has SOLD up.

http://www.dwightclevelandposterarchive.com/

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Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: eatbrie on April 17, 2016, 11:48:48 PM
Unknowingly, we probably ALL own a piece of his collection.

T
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: DekeThornton on April 18, 2016, 01:13:19 AM
Unknowingly, we probably ALL own a piece of his collection.

T

A couple of Mexican posters I bought from EMP were stamped on the back with "Dwight Cleveland Archive" or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Dwight Cleveland is selling up..
Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2016, 02:11:06 AM
It's cool to know you have a couple pieces from his collection, Deke.