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Title: Bus Shelters
Post by: paul waines on May 24, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
I used to get these free from a fellow I know, but stopped getting them as it was hit and miss what titles he give me. Plus storing them is a nightmare.

Anyone else bother with these, if so how do you store them? Some are a vinyl type material so best not to put these in the loft. They are a nuisance in my small poster room, may need to move to a bigger house again....


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There's quite a few of these things, you new poster guys must be up on them...
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on May 24, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
We get plenty of these that come into the theatre, but I don't know if it's just our luck of if it's the new norm, but the bus shelters are almost always the same art as the 1-sheet that happens to be out at the time. We have a history of extremely boring bus shelters that we don't even bother putting up. The only one I have is The Social Network, because I figure somewhere along the line I might be able to sell it to somebody.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on May 24, 2011, 09:34:45 AM
Ha ha I know what you mean, I think 99% of modern posters are boring, and was keeping these as I don't throw anything out, and some day I maybe able to swop a few of them for a Bride of Frankenstein teaser, when the market drops out of Uni-horror.  ;)
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: jayn_j on May 24, 2011, 09:43:28 AM
Ha ha I know what you mean, I think 99% of modern posters are boring, and was keeping these as I don't throw anything out, and some day I maybe able to swop a few of them for a Bride of Frankenstein teaser, when the market drops out of Uni-horror.  ;)

I don't think the bottom drops out for those of us who care.  At least not until we are in the home.  Our kids reap the benefit, and mostly they don't see the point.

I was teaching a cinematography merit badge class for a group of scouts.  I asked them to watch The Maltese Falcon to study lighting and noir technique.  You would have thought I asked them to poke their eyes out with hot irons.  They simply couldn't relate and I had to back off and demonstrate lighting with more modern material.  The funny part is they ended up making a noir movie and re-invented the technique on their own.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on May 24, 2011, 09:55:19 AM
This is my point in a 20 years time who will buy an old Uni-Horror poster. Not our kids, but they may want a Harry Potter... I'm sure some kid who's dad has left him with a load of dusty old monster posters will gladly swap them for a Potter, or a Nemo.  That's more than likely been loaded on to a memory card so they don't have to bother with big lumps of paper. ;D 
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on May 24, 2011, 10:14:11 AM
This is my point in a 20 years time who will buy an old Uni-Horror poster. Not our kids, but they may want a Harry Potter... I'm sure some kid who's dad has left him with a load of dusty old monster posters will gladly swap them for a Potter, or a Nemo.  That's more than likely been loaded on to a memory card so they don't have to bother with big lumps of paper. ;D 

That's part of why I collect animated posters. Especially Pixar. I think they're more likely to appreciate into the next generation of collectors.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: AdamCarterJones on May 24, 2011, 10:56:52 AM
Got around 90 or so of these ...
... Managed to get them into 5 boxes, not tubes ...

Some pretty decent ones in there including a Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith Darth Vader version that was printed accidentally with the wrong ink - only three exist.

All are for sale of course ha ha ...

Best,
Adam
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on May 24, 2011, 11:05:05 AM
Got around 90 or so of these ...
... Managed to get them into 5 boxes, not tubes ...

Some pretty decent ones in there including a Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith Darth Vader version that was printed accidentally with the wrong ink - only three exist.

All are for sale of course ha ha ...

Best,
Adam

Wrong ink?
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: AdamCarterJones on May 24, 2011, 12:43:34 PM
Wrong colour, sorry, may be should have phrased that better for clarity.

Best,
Adam
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: marklawd on May 24, 2011, 12:48:11 PM
This is my point in a 20 years time who will buy an old Uni-Horror poster. Not our kids, but they may want a Harry Potter...  

Thats why I bother to still keep around 20 different Harry Potter bus shelter posters - none of the images are in one sheet format.

Mark
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 24, 2011, 02:05:08 PM
This is my point in a 20 years time who will buy an old Uni-Horror poster. Not our kids, but they may want a Harry Potter... I'm sure some kid who's dad has left him with a load of dusty old monster posters will gladly swap them for a Potter, or a Nemo.  That's more than likely been loaded on to a memory card so they don't have to bother with big lumps of paper. ;D 

Paul,

I think UNI horror material will always be collectible and retain it's value. There isn't much around, and you have to figure that most collectors of those items today were not even born when these movies were released-- and that hasnt stopped them from becoming even more collectible and pricey.

True.. if some kid is passed on something that he hasnt a clue about, he could certainly sell it for something more current, or his own "flavor of the month" poster. 

Current material like that from Pixar or the Potter franchise was/is produced in such sheer quantity, that, for the most part, it will most likely never become as valuable or scarce as UNI horror or other, more vintage items, have become (IMO).

Jeff

Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on May 24, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
Always be prepared Jeff... Just incase I can get a swop I'll hang on to them. ;)
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: erik1925 on May 24, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
Always be prepared Jeff... Just incase I can get a swop I'll hang on to them. ;)

Indeed.. like any Boyscout should be...  ;)

Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on May 25, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
Luckily I have two of my Favourite Potter poster....


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If anyone has any Universal Horror posters they would like to swap for it now, get in quick before the prices go through the roof on these...
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 22, 2011, 02:05:03 PM
I have just found these two while putting back some of the larger posters I have.

The question is when did they start making Bus stop posters in the U.K. ? or have they always been produced as this size is sometimes known as a 6sht in the U.K.  Or, Maybe it should be, when did they start putting them in Bus shelters...

These two are from 1984.



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Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 22, 2011, 03:31:09 PM
... have they always been produced as this size is sometimes known as a 6sht in the U.K. ?

Hi Paul!

I think you'll find these are referred to as either 2-sheets or 4-sheets in the UK.  To avoid any misunderstandings, we usually play safe and refer to them as 60" x 40" - and even then, some people will tell us we should be saying 40" x 60" !  

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 22, 2011, 05:28:20 PM
Any ideas on the time scale Terry?
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 22, 2011, 05:37:08 PM
Oh, I was looking at a poster paper chart yesterday and they refer to the bus stop poster size as a 6 sht!!!  If you check my previous posts I referred to them as a 4 sht myself, which seems to be wrong according to this chart...   
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 23, 2011, 07:32:15 AM
Hi, Paul!
I don't think 6-sheet can be right ... what would be the base unit for that?
Calling it a 2-sheet assumes a quad is the base unit.
Calling it a 4-sheet assumes a double-crown in the base unit.
Nothing really justifies it being 6 times anything.
In the US, I think the 1-sheet is (logically enough) taken as the base unit and multiplied accordingly.
I've seen them 'officially' referred to as both 2- and 4-sheets ... but not 6-sheets.
Hence, our preference for sticking with the actual dimensions to avoid misunderstandings ... !

Sorry - no idea on time-scale ... anyone ... ?

Best wishes,
Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Bruce on July 23, 2011, 09:23:59 AM
In all older English pressbooks, the 40 x 85 posters are referred to as "6 sheets" and the 85 x 85 posters are referred to as "12 sheets", so I think those terms should be reserved for those sizes.

Bruce
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 23, 2011, 10:42:27 AM
Thanks for that, Bruce!  That would approximately tie-in with the double-crown being used as the basis for the multiples - give or take the odd half-inch or so which would have overlapped when they pasted them up!  So, using that system, the 60" x 40" would be a 4-sheet.  In any case, including the actual dimensions is always a good idea to remove any uncertainty!

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 23, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
http://www.vinyl-banners.co.uk/billboard_poster_sizes.htm


I'm a bit rubbish at links so hopefully this will get you there...
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 23, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
These basic sizes are from the 15"x20" crown size. A double crown is 20"x30", and a Quad crown is 30"x40"   Quad meaning 4 times bigger.

Once we get over the Crown sizes, life gets complicated. e.g. the British half sheet.... Half of what? Certainly not a 1 sheet,  And a 4 sheet...4 times the Double Crown!!! which is double a crown in the first place, so the 4 sheet is actually an Octo-Crown???

Me thinks this needs more research....  
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Bruce on July 23, 2011, 12:31:59 PM
The mistake on that chart is putting "bus shelter posters" by 6 sheets when it should be by 4 sheets. Otherwise the chart looks exactly right to me.

Paul, as far as I can tell, English one-sheets and half-sheets were never used in England! They do not appear in pressbooks, and I have never found an English collector who told me they saw them in ENGLISH theaters.

I have been consigned many hundreds of them, and they almost always come from former British colonies (Canada, the U.S., Australia and South Africa) leading me to think that they printed English one-sheets and half-sheets as export posters (in the sizes commonly used in those countries), and used solely half crowns, crowns, quads, etc, at home.

Bruce
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Ari on July 23, 2011, 12:50:23 PM
Ye, UK 1 sheets are UK International 1 Sheets.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: kovacs01 on July 23, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
Ye, UK 1 sheets are UK International 1 Sheets.

And that is why the damn things are so hard to find.  I think a lot of the nations these end up are ones that put posters in the trash.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 23, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
I must say I can't recall a Half sheet up in a U.K. based Theatre. I do know some of the size problems come from the fact poster printing started in the Victorian era, so through out the Empire different sizes were used and all named with a royal theme. Hence Crown, Royal, Emperor, etc. With the Crown being the basis of U.K. sizes.

I do have some British Half sheets I must check, but I am thinking you are right regards they may have been for British colonies. Makes prefect sense.

Another thought is that bus stop poster is in metric and 1200 x 1800 is aprox 47"x 71"  ....which buggers up everything, bloody foreigners.  ;)    
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 23, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
As Bruce says, they simply need to shift the words '(bus stop posters)' up to the 60" x 40" window and all will be well!

Terry
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 23, 2011, 03:43:34 PM
But Bus stop posters are 48x72....and not 60x40
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 23, 2011, 03:51:56 PM
 60 inch is 1.5 metres (1500mm),1800mm is about 6 feet.

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 23, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
But Bus stop posters are 48x72....and not 60x40

But Bus stop posters are 48(W)x72(H)....and not 60(W)x40(H)

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Bruce on July 23, 2011, 04:50:14 PM
I think the older English bus stops were around 39 x 59 and only recent ones are this larger size.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 23, 2011, 05:00:41 PM
I think the older English bus stops were around 39 x 59 and only recent ones are this larger size.
This is one of those threads that has been around all day but just gets more interesting as the hours tick by.
Bruce, what era is "older"?  Pre 70`s?

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 23, 2011, 05:41:48 PM
and a Quad crown is 30"x40"   Quad meaning 4 times bigger.

30(W)x40(H)
Me thinks this needs more research....  
Im very confused,is it width first then height, or height first then width?
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 23, 2011, 06:07:20 PM
Hi, Stew!
Another hornets' nest waiting to be shaken!
As I understood it, in imperial paper sizes, it was always height first by width second.
However, many people now prefer to reverse the order.
I know Ed Poole at LAMP always goes width first by height second.

I guess it depends where you learned it first and who you listen to now!

I was working on the basis that 'bus stop' was the 'modern' term for 60" x 40".
Apparently, according to Paul's posting, that's not the case - sorry, I was under a misapprehension - stuck as I am in the olden days!  I shall continue to avoid the term 'bus stop' altogether!

If in doubt, you can't go wrong if you spell it out in full - ie 60" high x 40" wide, etc, etc.

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk

Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Chop-Top on July 23, 2011, 06:57:31 PM
In mathematics, width goes first.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 23, 2011, 07:01:56 PM
In mathematics, width goes first.
It does indeed Chop.

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 24, 2011, 04:00:04 AM
The order the width, and hight come is not the issue, just the actual measurements themselves. And a time scale of when posters started being used in bus shelters. I'm going to guess late 70's/early 80's, as 60's and 70's bus stops were nothing like they are today.

Bruce, do you have any records of the earliest ''bus stop" poster you have sold from the U.K.? 
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 24, 2011, 04:08:30 AM
Hi, Paul!
But the order of width and height is also an interesting topic and worthy of a little investigation.
Here is a link to a very detailed discussion which (eventually, if you read far enough) points out that there is a division of opinion between UK and USA ... also that basic stationery paper sizes were traditionally LONGER size first by SHORTER size second.  Obviously, while it's still a blank piece of paper, the fact that it is landscape or portrait isn't relevant - it's only when the graphics are added that the orientation becomes a factor!

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/2138.htm (http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum36/2138.htm)

I've said it before and I'll say it again ... I really should get out more.

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 24, 2011, 04:11:01 AM
... also, actors' publicity portrait photographs are coloquially referred to as '10 by 8's' - so that's another instance of height first ... !

Terry
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Ari on July 24, 2011, 04:22:16 AM
hmm well usually, seems its smaller then larger.

27x41(40), 13x30, 30x40, for US, Aussie and UK standard sizes (at least thats what I see used most often_.

Stills I always use and have always seen 8"x10"

Not that any of it matters really, I am sure we can figure it out either way.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 24, 2011, 04:31:06 AM
I'm glad you don't get out much Terry... ;)


I meant what order the hight of width comes is not important for this discussion, as I was mostly wanting to find out dates, timescale; But I order pipe work, and fittings, also steel work every day doing my job at work and the largest size is always first, or people on the telephone don't know what you want...  So I've always regarded paper in the same way.

Those Supergirl posters are 4 sheets 60"x40" and wrote on one is..

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Now IF they used 4shts in bus stops, when did they go to the bigger 4 foot by 6 foot, or 48"x72" and what is being wrongly advertised as a 6sht?

I must just add here that the current "bus stop" posters are in metric, so 72x48 is actually 1800x1200mm

 
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 24, 2011, 04:33:51 AM
I guess it's safer for everyone if we don't get out much.  If we got out more, we might meet and start a conversation about this ... then we'd never get home again!

T
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Ari on July 24, 2011, 05:11:11 AM
you should hear how long the "running zombie" argument goes on for when I get out with my horror nerd friends.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 24, 2011, 05:50:41 AM
Which camp are you in Ari, running, or lumbering...
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: kovacs01 on July 25, 2011, 12:18:56 PM
you should hear how long the "running zombie" argument goes on for when I get out with my horror nerd friends.

Now THIS is something that is truly worth some effort spent on argument!!  I am in the lumbering camp myself for two reasons......

1. George Romero, the godfather of the genre, decided long ago with his films that they lumber.  It was only his more recent films they began to run, and I think that is to please modern audiences.  Also, I don't believe that Romero had a lot to do with those films.  His name is on them because he owns the franchise and because it doesn't hurt the ticket sales.

2. Its a simple question of mobility.  Skin becomes rotten, connective tissue becomes brittle.  The lumbering zombie can continue to lumber for a very long time.  The running zombie is going to be down for the count sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Im very confused,is it width first then height, or height first then width?

Stew, it's more confusing than you think, as there are vertical Quad Crowns, also the 60"x20" commonly called a door panel, is still a Quad Crown, due to the surface area...


Anyway I'm with Schan, Lumbering Zombies are the one's I prefer. I'm thinking the running type is only the recently dead, or people who are infected with some sort of Virus...

The lumbering/slow moving one's do go back as far as White Zombie, and later I walked with a Zombie. I'd just like to bring in one of the best Zombie films made, Living dead at the Manchester Morgue. No running in that one either. As Schan says it's these playstation kids who when they come back as Zombies run around like................like the living dead.   
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 25, 2011, 01:49:20 PM
Stew, it's more confusing than you think, as there are vertical Quad Crowns, also the 60"x20" commonly called a door panel, is still a Quad Crown, due to the surface area...    
Thanks Paul,one of the reasons I'm confused is probably because I'm used to film ratios,just as a number most people will recognise is 16:9. Sixteen being the horizontal 9 the vertical so that's the way i have always regarded any expression of area..

Best
Stew

I'm also a lumberer...Schan/Ari !
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2011, 04:12:49 PM
I always look at film ratios as 1.66, or 2.35, 1.33, etc... this 16:9, 14:9 etc, is you young fellows and your Digital shenanigans. ;)
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on July 25, 2011, 04:22:40 PM
I always look at film ratios as 1.66, or 2.35, 1.33, etc... this 16:9, 14:9 etc, is you young fellows and your Digital shenanigans. ;)
Yeah yeah i know you would get what i was talking about but its still 2.35:1,not 1:2.35 ;)

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
Haha, quite correct Stew.... ;D
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Ari on July 25, 2011, 08:34:54 PM
Oh re Zombies, yeah I like em slow.
But the argument isn't so simple as citing Romero, there is some fast-ish zombie action in the start of Night, the kid zombies in Dawn and pretty damn fast.
But SLOW... all the way for this Zomboy.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 26, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
I'm guessing this topic has just about run its course, but I thought I would add these (as ever) useful comments from Sim Branaghan, author of the excellent British Film Posters book...

He says that the basic format for British posters has always been the Double Crown (30"x20"), established in this role by the time of our Advertising Stations (Ratings) Act in 1889.  Larger posters were thus generally referred to by the number of DCs they contained.  Printers created this terminology, so while basic UK formats can be doubled, or quadrupled, or double-quadrupled, after that you have to start referring to number of "sheets" (eg DCs).  For example, a pre-war British "six-sheet" would technically be 90"x40" etc.  Individual DCs were often referred to by the advertising/publicity men as "Bus Fronts" or "Bus Backs" as this is where they were often displayed.  For giant formats, the 60"x40" or "Double Quad Crown" was the biggest individual size standard litho-presses could take, and anything larger had to be printed in sections, often uneconomically trimmed.
 
The problem, of course, is that this terminology has shifted about.  Prior to WW2 derivations of "sheet" always referred to DCs.  After about 1950, the phrase was increasingly applied to British-printed export versions of American sizes - so for roughly thirty years or so we had one- three- and six-sheets that matched the US sizes (ie 40"x27", 81"x40" and 81"x80" or thereabouts).  But UK three- and six-sheets were defunct by about 1980 - six-sheets disappeared entirely, while three-sheets were replaced by (already existing) 60"x40"s or Double Quad Crowns.  The advertising term for these is "four sheet", although printers still called them "Double Quads" (Terry: .. and I suspect that's where the confusion of them sometimes being referred to as 'two-sheets' originated ...)  Another name sometimes used was "Bus Stop".... which as we've seen only serves to confuse matters further, since from about 1990 this phrase has been increasingly applied to the new size of 72"x48".

The easiest way to avoid confusion is simply to describe the poster in terms of its dimensions.  But even THIS can be fraught with difficulty, since you then has to decide which dimension (height/width) to give first.  And again, there has always been a split - printers always quote height/width, but the Advertising industry has always quoted width/height.  If you look at old (50s/60s) pressbooks, quads are quite often listed as "40x30"......

Obviously, there's some duplication of the information which has already been laid out earlier in the thread, but i thought I would add Sim's comments anyway.

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 26, 2011, 11:54:36 AM
Some duplication Terry, but one date I was after 1990 is in there. So Bus stop posters from 1990 onwards were 1800mmX1200mm, and just to avoid the confusion I always give the largest size first, as is right and proper... ;)  And before then Bus shelter posters were 4 Sheets...

So the only remaining date is when did bus stops start being used for advertising, film or otherwise... I'm guessing we need to speak to a Bus/transport Anorak. Anyone out there...   

Alternatively, Post your earliest Bus stop posters, mine (posted above) are from 1984....




Terry you never said Running or Lumbering...You as well Sue.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: quadbod on July 26, 2011, 03:29:07 PM
Hi, again!

Sim has added a supplementary paragraph, as follows:

60"x40"s have been used in British advertising generally since at least the 1890s.  They've been used for FILM posters patchily since the end of WW2 (generally silkscreen rather than litho), but were not common, though I've seen occasional 1960s examples for sale from time to time.  The changeover with the 81"x40" format seems to have begun in the mid-70s (following the "tripling" of most circuit-cinemas in summer 1973), and they become increasingly prevalent from about 1976 onwards.  Print-runs for the domestic four-sheet format would rarely have exceeded 500 copies, so not that many survive, even from such a comparatively recent period .  The earliest one I own myself (not that I''ve bought that many) is a Putzu-art double-bill of Holiday on the Buses / Fear Is the Key from Xmas 1973.
 
Sue instantly went for lumbering.
I need to do more research.

T
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: brude on July 26, 2011, 08:27:40 PM
My two cents.
LUMBERING...makes for better head shots.

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Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: Neo on July 26, 2011, 09:52:25 PM

LUMBERING...makes for better head shots.


Very true, Ted.

I'd have to go with a combination of lumbering and running.  If any of y'all play Left 4 Dead on Xbox 360 or PS3, it has a great combination of the two.  The game is freakin' intense.  Highly recommended for zombie fans.  I've heard Left 4 Dead 2 is even better.  Great to play on multiplayer, either on line (can team up with others) or with fellow humans in your zombie safe house.  ;D
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: stewart boyle on March 01, 2012, 06:24:02 PM
My new job involves a lot of driving,,and sometimes at 3.am on a Sunday morning I think to my self..If only I had a crowbar,,I`d be off with that,but my morals prevent me from doing so...
One thing though is, I have yet to time it when the dude who replaces these is taking the old ones down and replacing the Bus stops with new ones....
"Hi mister bus top dude..fancy selling that to me for a tenner"? always crosses my mind..one of these days..

Stew
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: joneyyy on March 01, 2012, 06:44:38 PM
dont talk about bus shelter posters, makes me feel guilty.
Title: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 09, 2014, 07:20:09 PM
So what's the story with Bus Shelters?  
When did they first pop up in the US?
Were they meant to replace 40x60in posters?

I don't own a lot of them, although I wish I did, about 150 I think.  The oldest one is this one for 1991 The Rocketeer.

(http://www.eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Photos/Rocketeer8.jpg)

I love the format.  Anyone else collects them around these parts?

T

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on May 09, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
T, you don't consider having 150 of this format a lot?

Oh wait..

i forgot who I was asking...  ;D
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: iojabba on May 10, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
I only have a very few. These are my favorites.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7371/14145945571_5d4e498518.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7437/13962598689_2c362cdcb0.jpg)

apparently I'm an idiot and can't figure out how to link photos from flickr. Anyway, they are Geronimo (1993), and Office Space.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 10, 2014, 01:27:22 AM
I like Office Space.  Nice one!

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: iojabba on May 10, 2014, 03:23:46 AM
Thanks, I'm pretty sure that if I had a The Rocketeer that size that it would be hung in my media room. They are pretty unwieldy though don't you think? Pretty stiff and take some time to flatten out.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: originalcinemaposters on May 10, 2014, 04:17:29 AM
I have the Ferris Bus Stop, same as the international one sheet, its spectacular! shame its going to cost a fortune to frame that bad boy
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: iojabba on May 10, 2014, 04:19:47 AM
Once you start framing stuff that big, it almost makes sense to buy the equipment and do it yourself.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: originalcinemaposters on May 10, 2014, 04:24:43 AM
mine is all tatty down one side, picked it up three or four years ago, i noticed another one selling this week on ebay.co.uk, with the same issues down one side (although mine is not so bad). i wonder if someone has a few damaged ones knocking about?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferris-Buellers-Day-Off-original-film-movie-advertising-retro-cinema-poster-/321388152934?nma=true&si=Dj9cwUCPA1vyJe4dGn67L1UrA6A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferris-Buellers-Day-Off-original-film-movie-advertising-retro-cinema-poster-/321388152934?nma=true&si=Dj9cwUCPA1vyJe4dGn67L1UrA6A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: guest8 on May 10, 2014, 07:46:20 AM
I have probably as many of these as T does .. one of my favorites is horizontal bus shelter for Dark Knight Rises. :) These and Quads are actually my preferred formats.

For those of you looking to frame these bad boys.. its not that costly is you know where to go. Rob over at Spotlight displays will make you one of these with some uv-resistant non-glare for roughly $125-150 shipped. I have a few large format frames from his and his customer service is 2nd to none!
 
Here is a pic from my stream
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CEusviJ1l74/UXhyczzP_8I/AAAAAAAAI6c/McFbqSE0h_k/w640-h384-no/IMAG1834.jpg)

and here is Robs pinterest of large format frames that they made ..
http://www.pinterest.com/posterframes/custom-frames-for-any-size-graphic/

http://www.spotlightdisplays.com/movie-poster-frames-gallery.html

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 10, 2014, 01:16:58 PM
Here are some of my favs, from the oldest to the most recent.  I tend to buy more of them these days.  And yes, I'm a dude, so there will be more females than males.

(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Batmanreturns3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Aladdin1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Jurassicparklostworld9.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gattaca6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Batman&robin4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Worldisnotenough8.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Irongiant3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Pearlharbor6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Ettheextraterrestrial8.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Piratesofthecaribbean4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Blade.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Kingkong15.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/X31.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Piratesofthecaribbeanatworldsend2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/TerminatorTV1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/TerminatorTV2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Indianajonesandthekingdomofthecrystalskull5.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Darkknight6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Trueblood1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Trueblood2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Inception3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Inception8.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Howtotrainyourdragon6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Redridinghood3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Piratesofthecaribbeanonstrangertides2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Panam.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Muppets2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Americanhorrorstory1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Americanhorrorstory2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Snowwhiteandthehuntsman5.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Residentevilretribution3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Miserables5.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Darkknightrises16.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Avengers20124.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Wolverine3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Ironman35.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Hungergames16.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gravity7.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Gangstersquad2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Americanhustle1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Americanhustle2.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Captainamerica6.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: guest8 on May 10, 2014, 03:09:40 PM
T is your Catching fire on heavy card stock/paper like most of the others? I have a copy of that and mine is a material more like a banner. Its the same size as a bus shelter poster and it looks good framed. So I just figured it was a one off meant to be hung in a theater.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: ddilts399 on May 11, 2014, 11:23:42 AM
i have several as well, i am actually going to be dumping the 30 or so banners i have left around here. the bus shelter store so much better. the problem with them is the competition is pretty hot on the decent ones that make it to market, just not enough getting out in the wild.

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: guest8 on May 12, 2014, 07:39:36 AM
i have several as well, i am actually going to be dumping the 30 or so banners i have left around here. the bus shelter store so much better. the problem with them is the competition is pretty hot on the decent ones that make it to market, just not enough getting out in the wild.

That's one thing I hate about bus shelters.. the professional sellers post them up right away with $200+ price tags just to see what the market will take and some loon buys it because its the only one on ebay then every joe-blow on the web thinks that's what its worth from there on out. Case in point would be the Jennifer Lawrence American Hustle poster and the Captain America Scarlet poster. That American Hustle poster is NOT worth more than maybe $40-50!
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: jayn_j on May 12, 2014, 08:14:17 AM
That American Hustle poster is NOT worth more than maybe $40-50!

To you.  Obviously, it was worth more to someone on that day.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: guest8 on May 12, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
To you.  Obviously, it was worth more to someone on that day.

You know what they say about a fool and his money! :P
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: pratschm on May 12, 2014, 10:08:53 PM
You got some nice ones there, T. I particularly like the King Kong, How To Train Your Dragon and The Dark Knight (Joker) posters.
Fallen, you've got some nice pieces as well.
Here's what I have so far:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1743624_737546446256031_2006879674_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/156904_737546449589364_1314431179_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/1897998_742843469059662_757814033_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on May 12, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
I was down in Venice (CA) today and I came across a Godzilla (2014) bus shelter, held down with bricks on the 4 corners, lightly covered with blown sand and torn at the bottom, on the boardwalk...

No one was around. The "rescuer" in me was half tempted to roll it up and bring it home... but the owner, Im sure, was lurking somewhere...  :-\

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
I was down in Venice (CA) today and I came across a Godzilla (2014) bus shelter, held down with bricks on the 4 corners, lightly covered with blown sand and torn at the bottom, on the boardwalk...

No one was around. The "rescuer" in me was half tempted to roll it up and bring it home... but the owner, Im sure, was lurking somewhere...  :-\



The real question is... what are you doing in Venice on a hot Monday afternoon?  Buying a bong?

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:15:57 PM
Here's my 2014 haul so far...

(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Amazingspiderman22.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Houseofcards1.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Captainamerica6.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Transformers44.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Xmendaysoffuturepast3.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Xmendaysoffuturepast4.jpg)(http://www.eatbrie.com/movie_posters_files/Xmendaysoffuturepast5.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:18:35 PM
Nice Mike...  Just so you know, the bottom three are not bus shelters but NYC subway posters.

Scratch that...  You wrote it down.   ;D

Nice nevertheless.

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: pratschm on May 12, 2014, 11:20:36 PM
Nice Mike...  Just so you know, the bottom three are not bus shelters but NYC subway posters.

Nice nevertheless.

T

Correct. I was trying to pad my post. :)
I've corrected it to stay on topic. Apologies.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on May 12, 2014, 11:21:44 PM
The real question is... what are you doing in Venice on a hot Monday afternoon?  Buying a bong?

T

I'd have to get my med card first.. from one of the workers in their "greens" passing out their cards along the boardwalk... ;D

I'm so official, that way...
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:23:38 PM
I'd have to get my med card first.. from one of the workers in their "greens" passing out their cards along the boardwalk... ;D

I'm so official, that way...

I've always wondered about those?  I get my pot straight from my neighbor across the street, so I've never had to buy it.  In college maybe, but not for years.  Do they actually sell weed in there?
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on May 12, 2014, 11:26:53 PM
I've always wondered about those?  I get my pot straight from my neighbor across the street, so I've never had to buy it.  In college maybe, but not for years.  Do they actually sell weed in there?

I think you pay like 40 bucks for the card, ONLY... how it works after that... me has no clue...  8)

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:28:38 PM
What... you tell them you have back pains and they give you a card?  What's funny is that the cops are parked 20 feet away.

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on May 12, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
What... you tell them you have back pains and they give you a card?  What's funny is that the cops are parked 20 feet away.

T

And they dont care.... i think because you are ripped off for 40 bucks for just some laser printed card....  quick dollars.... those sellers passing out those cards are all minimum wage paid clowns....
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on May 12, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
I got caught smoking pot in Venice.  About 15 years ago.  Out of a red convertible Wrangler.  I hid a bud the size of my thumb in the middle compartment.  The cops showed up, parked their car right next to mine, asked me what I was doing.  I told them I was smoking a cigar :)  They searched the car, found my bud.  Busted!  The cop told me: "Do me a favor, don't lie to us and smoke at home."  And he let me go.

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on June 17, 2014, 08:48:27 PM
My favorite bus shelter acquisition so far this year.  Don't care if the movie is shit, this is a cool design, imo.


(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3849/14261450178_4d85d92947_b.jpg)


T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: Silence on June 17, 2014, 09:01:41 PM
T, did you take the photo outdoors?
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: erik1925 on June 17, 2014, 09:08:13 PM
Nice pickup, there, T.

Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on June 17, 2014, 09:09:47 PM
T, did you take the photo outdoors?

No, seller's pic.

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: pratschm on June 17, 2014, 10:53:31 PM
Forgot about this thread. Have to post these!

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10371721_805044506172891_366747977250303783_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10340009_805044509506224_1804840074485421648_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: Crazy Vick on June 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Agreed, great poster (...how/where do you guys find sh*t like this?)  

Too bad they felt the need to have the M-16 in there... just a raised fist would have been more poignant
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: Neo on June 18, 2014, 12:13:16 AM
The Dawn of the Planet of the Apes art is wild, and I like that they included the orangutan and gorilla, along with Caesar and his fellow chimpanzees.  The new renditions of Kong, with Ms. Watts, are also nice.   cool1
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: kovacs01 on June 19, 2014, 01:47:41 AM
I have a couple of subways.....no bus shelters.  But, I am sure there are a few I would buy if they presented themselves.
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: eatbrie on July 21, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
New one!!!  Saldana does it for me, in black, blue or green.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14524066998_6a06cb56dd_c.jpg)

T
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: paul waines on July 21, 2014, 03:44:40 PM
I get the impression it's going to be a popular poster.... :D
Title: Re: Bus Shelters
Post by: pratschm on October 29, 2014, 12:01:51 AM
This thread looked lonely, so...

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1383146_888824684461539_7776190859157818501_n.jpg?oh=6989c076650b8264d369fb5eb973021c&oe=54E16330) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10330236_888824681128206_5204987952393117483_n.jpg?oh=f8524235185719b2705a98b68d616173&oe=54E7F348&__gda__=1420822000_81fa946735f989ed10d14eb21dd3d28c)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10590475_888824784461529_784175509165668882_n.jpg?oh=a93458ec9bb1d3844942d0c222909965&oe=54B1FE49&__gda__=1420754130_e56fe68464b3a97b68f5055d12ebf231) (https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10678756_888824811128193_6765533687799881724_n.jpg?oh=646185be6058ffdede4539c72b37ab8f&oe=54EC8DCB)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10556479_888824817794859_9031944007532457643_n.jpg?oh=52d120347fce2a88102004906eab0078&oe=54E08160&__gda__=1423836376_d1cb39ced2fcf1ff51827e50b48bdc71)
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: pratschm on July 24, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I thought I'd ask my question here to keep the information centralized.

Regarding US bus shelters, what type of material should they be? I've bought a few bus shelters and they are all that heavy coated material (vinyl?), so I figured that's how all bus shelters were. However, I recently bought another bus shelter and this one was not that material. It was pretty much just paper. Thicker than a one sheet, for sure, but not that heavy coated stuff. What gives? Could there be two different prints of the same size but used in different locations? For example, the heavy coated stuff goes outdoors in actual bus shelters, while the non-coated paper goes in something like an IMAX light box? Any help from our local bus shelter collectors would be much appreciated. thumbup
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: paul waines on July 25, 2015, 02:37:54 AM
I know you want to know about the US ones, but even the UK stuff is not the same. I have paper, coated paper, and fully vinyl, I don't know why, maybe different distributers use different printers...  I've never seen the same poster in different materials, always the same, are you saying you have the same poster, but printed on different  materials?   
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: ddilts399 on July 27, 2015, 07:40:19 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I thought I'd ask my question here to keep the information centralized.

Regarding US bus shelters, what type of material should they be? I've bought a few bus shelters and they are all that heavy coated material (vinyl?), so I figured that's how all bus shelters were. However, I recently bought another bus shelter and this one was not that material. It was pretty much just paper. Thicker than a one sheet, for sure, but not that heavy coated stuff. What gives? Could there be two different prints of the same size but used in different locations? For example, the heavy coated stuff goes outdoors in actual bus shelters, while the non-coated paper goes in something like an IMAX light box? Any help from our local bus shelter collectors would be much appreciated. thumbup

Are you sure you dont have a subway? They are heavy and there is a paper type backing on them that can peel off. Normally US bus are just heavier paper.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: archie leach on July 27, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I thought I'd ask my question here to keep the information centralized.

Regarding US bus shelters, what type of material should they be? I've bought a few bus shelters and they are all that heavy coated material (vinyl?), so I figured that's how all bus shelters were. However, I recently bought another bus shelter and this one was not that material. It was pretty much just paper. Thicker than a one sheet, for sure, but not that heavy coated stuff. What gives? Could there be two different prints of the same size but used in different locations? For example, the heavy coated stuff goes outdoors in actual bus shelters, while the non-coated paper goes in something like an IMAX light box? Any help from our local bus shelter collectors would be much appreciated. thumbup

Yes. Some bus shelter posters are destined for outdoor purposes and need to be prepared for the weather, while others are meant to be put into cases.
Title: Re: Bus shelter posters
Post by: pratschm on July 29, 2015, 12:08:56 AM
@Paul - Thanks for the info! Can't imagine things would be all that different between US and UK. In this case I have what I guess would be considered an advance, as well as the final version. The artwork is the same, but the title, tag line, etc are different, and each is on a different material.

@ Dale - Pretty sure it's not a subway. It definitely does not have an adhesive backing.

@Archie - Thanks for the info! I've always wondered about the large format posters found in IMAX light boards vs similar vertical formats like bus shelters. Perhaps this is one reason for the discrepancy.