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Title: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 04:02:44 PM
First of all I am looking at some posters at cinemasterpieces.com and would like to know if I can trust them. I did some research and they seem to be legit, but have high prices. If there are better sites that for sure sell true originals at good prices, any experience would be good to hear about. I am very nervous about getting ripped off with a fake. Does a CAO have any signifigance(can they just be made by a phony seller)? Are there any trustworthy dealers that specialize in horror? I know I'm asking a bunch of questions and any help would be greatly appreciated. Be gentle. :)

I am specifically looking at the first Halloween 2 poster shown on this page
http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/cine_H.htm  Description:US 1 One Sheet Original Movie Poster 27" x 41" ROLLED NEVER FOLDED - UNUSED NM-M C9-C10  $395.00     Unused!! Rolled, never folded. Well preserved. We only have ONE of these!!

Also the third Hellraiser poster down. Description: HELLRAISER 1987  CLIVE BARKER
US One Sheet Original Movie Poster 27x41 Linen Backed Ready for Framing  NM C9  $555.00 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: joneyyy on April 15, 2011, 04:05:10 PM
Does a CAO have any signifigance(can they just be made by a phony seller)
 


NO & YES.

welcome to the forum, dave is A OK... you should check out the sellers section my friend, very helpful...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
Thanks, I will.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
First of all, welcome to the forum.
Second of all, you can 100% trust Cinemasterpieces for a high quality and well packaged product. His website is like a museum, with posters you sometimes can't find anywhere else. However, Cinemasterpieces is the most expensive retail website you will possibly find on the internet. His posters are typically listed for 5-10 times what they're actually worth. Many people (including myself) on this forum will tell you he's an excellent resource, but unless you're an uninformed millionaire, you can do much better for your dollar.

I'm going to send you a Private Message with my entire list of retail websites. There are many movie poster websites, and then there's eBay. This forum will be your most powerful tool in your collecting adventures, so ask a lot of questions and make a lot of friends!
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 15, 2011, 04:49:07 PM
"my entire list of retail websites. There are many movie poster websites, and then there's eBay"

I think you are forgetting something, an auction website (not retail) where more vintage movie posters are auctioned every week, than at any other website!

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 04:49:54 PM
"my entire list of retail websites. There are many movie poster websites, and then there's eBay"

I think you are forgetting something, an auction website (not retail) where more vintage movie posters are auctioned every week, than at any other website!

Bruce

You think I'd forget you, Bruce?
I starred eMovie on the list and recommended he "sign up immediately".
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 15, 2011, 04:50:15 PM
Welcome DreamWarrior.

Yep, Cinemasterpieces (Dave) is a great dealer.  Extremely expensive, but all original.  So if money is not an issue, go for it, what you see is what you get.

As far as other sites, I'll let people chime in since I pretty much only buy on Ebay (and at Bruce's).

Thierry
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 04:57:39 PM
It's also worth noting that, unless the poster is very old (50 years+), a linenbacked product is generally looked down on. I personally would always look for an untampered version. Different people have different feelings about this, but it seems to be the general opinion that a linenbacked poster loses a lot of its collectible appeal. Unless of course it was extremely damaged or extremely old.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 04:58:41 PM
You were wise to inquire before dropping that kind of $ for these titles there. With patience, due diligence and research, you should be able to find those 2 posters at better prices. In addition, unless it is of extreme personal importance or desire, i wouldn't suggest buying a linen backed HELLRAISER 3 poster.  That will only add to the overall purchase price.  :)


Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: joneyyy on April 15, 2011, 04:58:45 PM
It's also worth noting that, unless the poster is very old (50 years+), a linenbacked product is generally looked down on. I personally would always look for an untampered version. Different people have different feelings about this, but it seems to be the general opinion that a linenbacked poster loses a lot of its collectible appeal. Unless of course it was extremely damaged or extremely old.


oooooooooo  wow1 gun1 gun1 gun1
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 15, 2011, 05:00:25 PM
And the other standard piece of advice.  Have Patience.

Both of those posters will come up periodically on the auction sites for a lot less.  Sit back and wait.

Do your homework.  Bruce's sales database is an excellent source of auction prices as well as an image database:  http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archive.html

For example, looking at the halloween II One Sheet (I assume you mean the 1981 original and not the horrible remake), you will see that 13 have sold in 2010-11 for prices ranging from $20 to $60.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 15, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
"You think I'd forget you, Bruce?"

Thanks, Dish!
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
Thank you all! I came to the right place. I look forward to being here a long time.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 05:14:30 PM
"You think I'd forget you, Bruce?"

Thanks, Dish!

My name's Anthony. I don't mind Disheveled or variants but everyone knows everyone's name and I JUST WANT TO FIT IN. :'(
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 15, 2011, 05:18:37 PM

oooooooooo  wow1 gun1 gun1 gun1

What's your problem, Jon?  I would actually agree with Anthony.  Not so much on the amount of years, but on the general feel about linenbacked posters.  If the poster is rare, and years would go by before I can get another one, then I'd go for a linenbacked version.  But truth be told, a lot of linenbacked posters are not that hard to find and make you wonder why they were linenbacked in the first place.  I personally stay clear of linenbacked posters, because I know I will eventually find a nice folded version (and I like folds on my posters :)).

But I'm also having Dario linenback my Italian Suspiria because it is damaged and I have not seen another one on the market for quite some time.  So the chances that I could replace it with a better one are extremely slim.

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 05:19:53 PM
My name's Anthony. I don't mind Disheveled or variants but everyone knows everyone's name and I JUST WANT TO FIT IN. :'(

 ;)

(http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/100717_o.gif)


Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Chop-Top on April 15, 2011, 05:23:30 PM
For the love of God, please don't pay 10 times the value for ANY movie poster or anything else for that matter. I've bought 99% of all of my posters from Ebay, and I've been collecting since 2003. Just do plenty of research before you buy anything. Good luck.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
For the love of God, please don't pay 10 times the value for ANY movie poster or anything else for that matter. I've bought 99% of all of my posters from Ebay, and I've been collecting since 2003. Just do plenty of research before you buy anything. Good luck.

Yeah. This can't be stressed enough.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: joneyyy on April 15, 2011, 05:31:31 PM
What's your problem, Jon?  


nothing mate, im with you on the backed posters debate, im just saying im not to sure we should tell a newbie that its looked down upon amongst collectors, when its actually down to personal preference..??
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 05:35:01 PM
And, with Ebay.. also read seller's feedback and check the forums like these for discussions on those sellers that often sell fakes or reproductions. A few ebay sellers that have been talked about on this board, are: tloceposters, bradburied and movieposterbargains

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 15, 2011, 05:37:44 PM
For the love of God, please don't pay 10 times the value for ANY movie poster or anything else for that matter. I've bought 99% of all of my posters from Ebay, and I've been collecting since 2003. Just do plenty of research before you buy anything. Good luck.

Nicely said.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 15, 2011, 05:40:49 PM
Hey Anthony. I have liked your posts and your enthusiasm. If you sign your posts (or put your name in your signature) it is easier for people to remember it.

Thierry has the right idea on linenbacking. If you can find any poster you want unbacked and in good shape do so. If you can only find it backed, consider getting it. And if you can only find it unbacked and in bad condition, make sure you realize how much it will cost to get it backed.

And take some time to find that unbacked one at the right price. A big part of the hobby is the thrill of the hunt. You should only "pay up" when an item is uber rare.

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 05:42:22 PM
nothing mate, im with you on the backed posters debate, im just saying im not to sure we should tell a newbie that its looked down upon amongst collectors, when its actually down to personal preference..??

+1 Jon.

That kind of blanket statement is not true. Same goes with the comment about a poster losing A LOT of it's collectible appeal. This also, as a broad stroke, cannot be said. It is personal preference and depends on the poster, and it's condition. (aside from those annoying fold lines -- and, yes, I jest here --  wynk).

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 15, 2011, 05:48:44 PM
Plus, linenbacked posters take a lot of room.  If all my posters were linenbacked... I wouldn't have a house to live in.  But folded... they all fit in the garage :)

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 15, 2011, 05:50:37 PM
RE Linen backing

Linen backing is not looked down upon, IMO, and from what I have read and from those I have spoken to about it (in person/over the net), linen backing is accepted when preservation is required, whether it be a poster from 1961 or 1981 (anything after the '80s should not be linen backed IMO). Also, like T, if you have a very rare poster and you think it deserves preserving for the reasons T stated, then linen backing is fine.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: dhart3 on April 15, 2011, 06:06:45 PM
lol.. I bet DreamWarrior never dreamt (pardon the pun) he would get this kind of response. 

Regarding linenbacking, I compare it to restored comic books (which I also collect).  A restored CB always has a major stigma attached to it and as a result they are worth a fraction of an untouched copy.  For posters, it's not that severe.  There are a lot of collectors that may prefer them.  But I doubt I'll ever own one. 

 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: marklawd on April 15, 2011, 06:09:27 PM
RE Linen backing

..... if you have a very rare poster and you think it deserves preserving for the reasons T stated, then linen backing is fine.

Better still, put it in a mylar pocket for a fraction of the price.

Mark
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: joneyyy on April 15, 2011, 06:12:53 PM
Better still, put it in a mylar pocket for a fraction of the price.



funny that, a friend asked me why i had a dirty piece of paper rapped in plastic framed on my wall ;D ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 15, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
Better still, put it in a mylar pocket for a fraction of the price.

Mark

Yeah, I know, but if a rare poster is extremely brittle etc then linen backing it will be of benefit.
I would sure as hell bet everything I own on a Metropolis US One Sheet selling for more linen backed and preserved than a unbacked, beat up version ... should one EVER be found that is lol, and assuming it would be in a pretty beaten up state when found!

I don't own many linen backed posters - I've never actually sent any posters for linen backing myself.
But I do believe in what I said.  ;D

Anyway, most of the mega rich prefer linen backing because it is easier to frame the posters!
That's what I was told by the guys at The Reel Poster Gallery whose client list is  jawdrop
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
If I only buy rolled posters I won't have to worry about backing. ;)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 08:02:23 PM
If I only buy rolled posters I won't have to worry about backing. ;)

Ah, but some posters are only available folded (anything before the mid-eighties)! What then? :)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 15, 2011, 08:06:57 PM
Ah, but some posters are only available folded (anything before the mid-eighties)! What then? :)

Ah, but that is where you are wrong ... :P
Many of us guys here have rolled posters from the '70s, and some even from the '60s, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone here has a rolled poster from the '50s or even earlier!
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 08:08:07 PM
Ah, but that is where you are wrong ... :P
Many of us guys here have rolled posters from the '70s, and some even from the '60s, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone here has a rolled poster from the '50s or even earlier!

Okay, fine, some of you are magic and have found ways to travel back in time and shoot the printing machine operator before the posters are folded.
GENERALLY, a rolled poster from before the mid-eighties is very uncommon to non-existant.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 08:12:12 PM
Ah, but some posters are only available folded (anything before the mid-eighties)! What then? :)
I don't really expect to be able to do that, I was being a smart ass. Most of the posters I want are from the 70's, 80's, and later. Maybe a nice Last Man On Earth (1964) would be the earliest. I guess we'll see how my search goes.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 08:13:54 PM
I don't really expect to be able to do that, I was being a smart ass. Most of the posters I want are from the 70's, 80's, and later. Maybe a nice Last Man On Earth (1964) would be the earliest.

So what you're saying is you are not capable of time travel? Perfect. It's the general opinion that time-sniping posters hurts the posterity of vintage posters because bringing them back to the future with you effectively only makes them a few minutes old, therefore compromising its vintage appeal.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 15, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
For the love of God, please don't pay 10 times the value for ANY movie poster or anything else for that matter. I've bought 99% of all of my posters from Ebay, and I've been collecting since 2003. Just do plenty of research before you buy anything. Good luck.

YES!

Some more newbie to newbie advice!

1) Use google! I MEAN USE IT! You can listen to people but do not really trust anybody as many are beholden to others and some appear that they may have axes to grind.

2) Search this site and the one I am linking. Go to it and search it. You will find out things about supposed  " good" sellers.

 http://stylec.yuku.com/forums/63/t/Movie-Poster-Discussion.html

3) If you must over pay for a poster at least use sellers like Posteritati who only sell originals and not creeps who have on numerous occasions " accidentally " attempted to screw us.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
So what you're saying is you are not capable of time travel? Perfect. It's the general opinion that time-sniping posters hurts the posterity of vintage posters because bringing them back to the future with you effectively only makes them a few minutes old, therefore compromising its vintage appeal.
Forget all the other movies with time travel, Terminator rules are the real deal. You can only go back in time. It's like a one way street with a semi behind you. Sure I could go back to the right time to accomplish said mission, but waiting decades for a perfect poster collection is not worth it
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 08:30:13 PM
YES!

Some more newbie to newbie advice!

1) Use google! I MEAN USE IT! You can listen to people but do not really trust anybody as many are beholden to others and some appear that they may have axes to grind.

2) Search this site and the one I am linking. Go to it and search it. You will find out things about supposed  " good" sellers.

 http://stylec.yuku.com/forums/63/t/Movie-Poster-Discussion.html

3) If you must over pay for a poster at least use sellers like Posteritati who only sell originals and not creeps who have on numerous occasions " accidentally " attempted to screw us.

I have been googling shit, there is just so much info it is overwhelming. At some point I am going to have to trust a few people or I will never end up with a poster. And I am pretty sure I heard some bad stuff about Posteritati on this forum, soooo yeah.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 15, 2011, 08:31:23 PM
...but waiting decades for a perfect poster collection is not worth it.

Buy a whole collection now - WHAM! SORTED! ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 15, 2011, 08:32:52 PM
God Bless you dude! I know exactly where you are !

Good luck !!!!!!!!!!! ;D

Oh ya and My advice was for all fellow newbs  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Buy a whole collection now - WHAM! SORTED! ;D
I hadn't thought of that. :-*
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 09:16:53 PM
God Bless you dude! I know exactly where you are !

Good luck !!!!!!!!!!! ;D

Oh ya and My advice was for all fellow newbs  ;) 8)
I am open to any advice. I know it doesn't mean much, but your post count indicates you are much less of a newb than I. Then again maybe your just a troll. ;)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 15, 2011, 09:19:33 PM
Then again maybe your just a troll. ;)

Bingo!  ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 15, 2011, 09:20:27 PM
So what you're saying is you are not capable of time travel? Perfect. It's the general opinion that time-sniping posters hurts the posterity of vintage posters because bringing them back to the future with you effectively only makes them a few minutes old, therefore compromising its vintage appeal.

 ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 15, 2011, 09:22:08 PM
Another site worth looking through (not the easiest to navigate but you'll figure it out)

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Chop-Top on April 15, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
I would also like to add that creating a poster wish list is very helpful. Do you have one?
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 15, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
If I only buy rolled posters I won't have to worry about backing. ;)

If fold lines dont bother you on a poster you might buy that is from the early 80s or before (and the poster is in otherwise great shape), there would be NO need to back it. And if it rather beat up, more than likely, another will come around, so you could wait it out.

One other point, backing a poster and restoring a poster are 2 different things. If a poster is very brittle, old, splitting at cross folds and, in general, is falling apart, then backing (linen or paper) alone could be done as a conservation measure, to stabilize the poster itself.

Restoration would be just that-- restoring missing areas of paper, inpainting, airbrushing or re-creating trimmed borders, or even re-creating sections of the poster that are missing.

Many do both, to create a poster that looks almost new. I am of the thinking that less is more.

My 2˘ ..   ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 11:41:47 PM
I would also like to add that creating a poster wish list is very helpful. Do you have one?
Indeed I do. The Exorcist, Nightmare on Elm Street(1&3), Halloween (1&2), Hellraiser(1,2,3,6), Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th (1&6), The Thing, House, They Live, Lost Boys, Scream, Fright Night, Silver Bullet, Wishmaster, House of 1000 Corpses, Devil's Rejects, Tremors, JC's Vampires, Alien(s), Predator (1&2), IT, Evil Dead, Army of Darkness, Jaws, Last Man On Earth, Omega Man, The Hitcher, Silence of the Lambs, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Brainscan, Pet Cemetary. Those are off the top of my head and now I'll write them down.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 15, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
After looking at this thread I decided to check the dude's ebay sales out.http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1017.0.html

Unless new unsavory things have come to light, I am seriously looking a a number of his posters. Many of them are on my list and are listed as original rolled. By looking at the pictures I would say they are rolled, and according to Mel's experience they are the real deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hellraiser-1987-movie-poster-/360359889100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e71f88cc  

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thing-1982-movie-poster-/360359891558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e71f9266
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 15, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
After looking at this thread I decided to check the dude's ebay sales out.http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1017.0.html

Unless new unsavory things have come to light, I am seriously looking a a number of his posters. Many of them are on my list and are listed as original rolled. By looking at the pictures I would say they are rolled, and according to Mel's experience they are the real deal.


I've had a number of purchases from this seller. I've never been disappointed. It's nothing to be wow'd about, I mean, it's not like Bruce (eMovie) or the kind of guys you get to know around here. But for a casual buy from an eBay seller who's name you won't remember, it's a simple enough experience.

Whenever I buy from somebody I haven't bought from before I always send them a message saying to package the poster carefully. Seeing as how I don't recall any problems in regards to this seller, I imagine they followed through.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 16, 2011, 12:01:02 AM
Thanks. How often do you change your avatar? 8)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 16, 2011, 12:08:52 AM
Thanks. How often do you change your avatar? 8)

Haha, not often. Just whenever I get a new idea. I've only made three, really. All are riffs on actual posters, obviously.

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4514/trioy.jpg)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 16, 2011, 12:39:29 AM
Nice. My first poster will be my first avatar. Just wait, just you wait.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 16, 2011, 12:50:25 AM
Another site worth looking through (not the easiest to navigate but you'll figure it out)

http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/

I don't like LAMP.  Never did.  The site is ancient, kind of like MoPo.  A lot of info is either obsolete or not up to date.  Really not user friendly.  It might have been good 10 years ago, but it's definitely not where I would send newbies today.  I think Mel's sites are much more fun and informative: Poster Nirvana (http://www.posternirvana.com/Main/Home.html) or Movie Poster Collectors (http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Home.html).  Or Cinemasterpieces.  Or any other site, really.

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 16, 2011, 02:15:32 AM
Or any other site, really.

T

So should I just suggest Professor Powers' site then?
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2011, 02:40:44 AM
There are also many that appreciate what LAMP has to offer, as well as the knowledge that Ed and Susan Poole possess in the poster (and film ephemera fields), copyright information, the NSS and its history etc. They are top notch, IMO.  sm1

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 16, 2011, 02:54:41 AM
So should I just suggest Professor Powers' site then?

YES!!!

The best poster site on the World Wide Web: Professor Powers (http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/mymovieposters/aboutme.htm)

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 16, 2011, 03:01:51 AM
There are also many that appreciate what LAMP has to offer...

I'm sure there are, Jeff, most of them on social security.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2011, 03:45:10 AM
I'm sure there are, Jeff, most of them on social security.

 laugh1
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 08:03:12 AM
"The site is ancient, kind of like MoPo".

Wow, two cutting blows with one shot. That kind of makes you the Don Rickles of the poster world.

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 16, 2011, 08:10:42 AM
"The site is ancient, kind of like MoPo".

Wow, two cutting blows with one shot. That kind of makes you the Don Rickles of the poster world.

Bruce


LOL

He did have me laughing  :)

That is a tough site to navigate.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: 50s on April 16, 2011, 08:44:48 AM
"The site is ancient, kind of like MoPo".

Wow, two cutting blows with one shot. That kind of makes you the Don Rickles of the poster world.

Bruce



LAMP and MOPO websites ARE ancient examples of how the web used to be more commonly 10-20 years ago.

LAMP: The site reaks of the early 1990's - With all the awful animated gifs which I thought had long gone, the double borders around HTML tables, a 'Submit' button.
Code such as the following went obsolete over 10 years ago with CSS version 1 in 1996:
<font color="#FFFFFF" size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>
Apart from the recent menu they added, the rest of the page code (HTML) is 1990's
No web designer in the past 10 years would put that site into their CV when looking for a job.
Sure, a lot of good work has been put into the site, however technologically, it is a dinosaur.

MOPO: we know MOPO consists mostly of long term members. New members are few and far between. The web has moved on leaving MOPO behind. Poster collectors are joining forums not list servers.


Your site Bruce is also dated, so I can see where the confusion may lie. Your site, like LAMP, is also using pre 1996 obsolete code, eg:<font size="2" face="Verdana">
Also unstyled 'Search' buttons are so early 1990's. Look at the top few inches of your home page - the many different fonts are what web designers describe as a ransom note page. Like the LAMP site, that is what websites looked like in the 1990's, like ransom notes. Your site is better coded than LAMP but not that much better. Whoever has been coding the CSS styles needs to redo it much more efficiently. CSS has been around for 15 years with countless webpages on how to use it properly. Take the CSS in the <head> of all your pages for example. That code should go into a seperate CSS file, as it currently contributes to a slower page load having it embedded on all your pages, but that is just the start of the CSS problems. ( You had requested site feedback Bruce  ;) )




Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 16, 2011, 08:53:26 AM
Unless new unsavory things have come to light, I am seriously looking a a number of his posters. Many of them are on my list and are listed as original rolled. By looking at the pictures I would say they are rolled, and according to Mel's experience they are the real deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hellraiser-1987-movie-poster-/360359889100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e71f88cc  
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thing-1982-movie-poster-/360359891558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e71f9266

Movieposterzone on ebay are ambiguous.
They have good gear, sure, but a lot of the time they leave out information about the poster such as whether or not a poster is single or double sided. I suggest you pm and talk to others on the forum as well.

There are also many that appreciate what LAMP has to offer, as well as the knowledge that Ed and Susan Poole possess in the poster (and film ephemera fields), copyright information, the NSS and its history etc. They are top notch, IMO.  sm1

Jeff

I agree, Jeff.

Below is my case for LAMP:

I think Mel's sites are much more fun and informative: Poster Nirvana (http://www.posternirvana.com/Main/Home.html) or Movie Poster Collectors (http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Home.html).

T

I have got to disagree with that statement, T.
More fun than LAMP? That's a personal choice (if the headers and body copy don't play up).
But more informative than LAMP?? laugh1 (sorry, Mel)

Mel's sites might be decent, but at the end of the day with regards to the collector site he, unfortunately, gives no real credit to where he gets his information from. Where's the originality? In the design? The man behind it?

Almost every single thing on that website is secondary research, and not primary research.
The website is also still bias in certain areas.
Is LAMP bias anywhere? I don't think they are.
A collector website such as Mel's should not be bias in any way.

For a guy who has been collecting for just 2 years, it is admirable what Mel has done, but I say this again, he should not portray things on his website as though it is all his doing - it isn't, and that is why LAMP (Ed & Susan) will ALWAYS command far more respect than he ever will (unless he starts changing his crediting & attribution structure). People have explained this to him and he has not listened.

I believe this sentence on his website hinders him:
'Pursuant to the “fair use” provisions of United States copyright law, any images on this site subject to copyright protection are displayed solely for the non-profit purposes of education and promotion of movie poster collecting.'

Well, essentially LAMP could do the same, but instead they use their own archive and attribute images to the place/person they received them from.

Yes, LAMP may well be cumbersome for a few, but the wealth of information on there surpasses any other website.
That is a fact. The website may also be rather outdated in design, but at least it doesn't go wrong often, if at all.
And it does its job, and it does it bloody well.

Mel - this is not an attack on you.
Take it as constructive feedback - don't go mental again.  cool1
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 16, 2011, 09:36:46 AM
I'm sure there are, Jeff, most of them on social security.

 ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
"You had requested site feedback Bruce"

I am glad to get it and have forwarded it to those who program the site.

There are lots of improvements I would like to make, but time and money hinder many of them.

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: wonka on April 16, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
Bruce, while I love the new search engine, I think the BIGGEST issue it needs to address is the ability to filter both size and country of origin.

(Apologies in advance if this has already been mentioned, but I think those two options included on your search function would take the database to the next level.).
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 16, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
At the risk of threadjacking my own thread, what happened to our Lakers eatbrie? I did not see such a poor regular season finish coming. I do feel confident about their ability to kick it up in the playoffs. Kobe needs number six! 8)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 16, 2011, 11:13:03 AM
Movieposterzone on ebay are ambiguous.
They have good gear, sure, but a lot of the time they leave out information about the poster such as whether or not a poster is single or double sided. I suggest you pm and talk to others on the forum as well.
Yeah the descriptions are barely existent. But, I am only interested in one side one sheets.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 16, 2011, 12:20:58 PM
I think Mel's sites are much more fun and informative: Poster Nirvana (http://www.posternirvana.com/Main/Home.html) or Movie Poster Collectors (http://www.moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Home.html).  

Thanks dude, but not as "fun and informative" as "Crying and Eating." (http://www.cryingwhileeating.com/)

(http://www.cryingwhileeating.com/Bernhard.jpg)

Mel - this is not an attack on you. Take it as constructive feedback....

To quote our Head Honcho, "thank you Adam for your great knowledge. Your wisdom is always appreciated."  © 2011 APF
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 16, 2011, 12:30:12 PM
"I think the BIGGEST issue it needs to address is the ability to filter both size and country of origin."

These are high up on the list of things to do to it. That is why we have released it in a test format, to get this kind of input.

It may seem like no big deal to make these kinds of changes, but there can be lots of unintended consequences to small changes, and when you are dealing with 500,000 entries and images, doing any change is bigger than you think.

Have patience, grasshopper.

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 16, 2011, 12:56:41 PM
Wow, look at that... I criticize MoPo and LAMP and the world goes upside down. 

To the ones that don't think LAMP should be criticized (sorry, I can't do say anything positive about MoPo)... Sure, the site is informative, but who has time to dig in?  I'd take 20 minutes to find any kind of info, and would for sure turn away any newbie looking to make a dent in this hobby.  Why did I mention Mel's site?  Because it's easy to navigate, clear and simple.  Does it hold 5% of LAMP's info?  Sure, but the purpose of this thread was to help a beginner, and a beginner couldn't care less about 95% of LAMP's shared awesomeness.  I know, because as a beginner, I went to LAMP and almost puked my brains out.  I was like... WTF is all this shit about.  Who F cares?

And now, as a slightly more seasoned collector, I still don't need LAMP.  I have enough base knowledge to make my way through and learn on my own.

The result: Didn't need LAMP then, don't need LAMP now.

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
I would call LAMP more of a scholarly  and technical site. Is the site outdated, graphically? Per Steve, it sounds like a lot could be done to bring it's appearance and layout into 2011. But the amounts of information, including that in the "Members Only" sections (i am not a member), is really geared to the percentage of folks that want to do research in areas such as the NSS, copyright, Artists, Printer's Information and markings, associated dates that they were in business, Country of Origin etc.

Sure.. if you want "fun" and quick visual overviews of posters, a site like Mel's is fine. But for those that desire or want to know about more of the inner workings of studios and the association with their publicity materials, then LAMP is the site to tackle. Does it take a little time? Of course. But doesn't any kind of research? Again, I stress, this is for those that WANT to take the time to look through it. LAMP has an easy to use Poster Image search section. It isn't tough to navigate whatsoever.

Look at the poster verification sites that talk, at length, about the sometimes slight variations between a bootleg and a legitimate poster. They can get quite detailed with the information they provide-- and it is very valuable. But one has to read them, not just look at the photos, in order to benefit most from the info given, especially if you own a poster in question.

At the end of the day, these are all out personal opinions.. but valuable nevertheless. It gives both newbies and seasoned collectors the opportunity to explore a site they may not have been aware of before. They then, can make their own personal assessment. That's what makes this hobby fun. The thrill of the hunt and "digging around" online to verify finds!   happy1


Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 16, 2011, 02:17:33 PM
It's not a "zero sum" game - lots of great sites out there like LAMP, MoviePosterDB, IMP, etc.

I think LAMP's terrific and I probably was a bit unfair to it in bygone days.  I use it much more than I used to.  The database is unmatched and, now that I occasionally buy from dealers, I also use the dealer links for hard-to-find posters.  Really it just needs a design update and the dealers need to update their current inventory on the site. (Many times I've found that a poster listed as available has been sold.) 

 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 16, 2011, 07:35:38 PM
It's not a "zero sum" game - lots of great sites out there like LAMP, MoviePosterDB, IMP, etc.

To any noob reading this... many people feel that that site is by scumbags, for scumbags.

Mel's continual endorsement of it, along with a number of other questionable items, is why you should take his website with a grain of salt.  Although, the same could be said for most resources.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 16, 2011, 07:43:52 PM
BTW,  welcome1 Dream Warrior.
I like your want/wish list.  Nice taste in modern horror.  thumbup

Of all the sites on the internet concerning movie posters (LAMP, MoPo, whatever...), you've come to APF, the best place to learn about this hobby.  So, you can't go wrong.  wynk
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 16, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Of all the sites on the internet concerning movie posters (LAMP, MoPo, whatever...), you've come to APF, the best place to learn about this hobby.  So, you can't go wrong.  wynk

This cannot be argued...At least not by me  :P

Amazing forum! Very active with many many knowledgeable poster loons. Loaded with boat loads of unfiltered and uncensored information.

Plus a lot of pretty shiny pictures.

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 16, 2011, 08:23:58 PM
To any noob reading this... many people feel that that site is by scumbags, for scumbags.

Mel's continual endorsement of it, along with a number of other questionable items, is why you should take his website with a grain of salt.  Although, the same could be said for most resources.

Some sites require just a grain, others a chunk and still others a large block of NaCl
That's what makes it all interesting..  ;D

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 16, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
Mel's continual endorsement of it, along with a number of other questionable items, is why you should take his website with a grain of salt.

What questionable items does Mel endorse?
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 16, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
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Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 16, 2011, 09:08:49 PM
To any noob reading this... many people feel that that site is by scumbags, for scumbags.

Mel's continual endorsement of it, along with a number of other questionable items, is why you should take his website with a grain of salt.  Although, the same could be said for most resources.

A newbie should take anything you say with a grain of salt, since you don't have a website, don't show your collection, never say anything positive, and are here primarily to "stir the shit" as you've eloquently bragged in the past.

That said, MoviePosterDB is a "great" resource only to the extent it is a comprehensive source of images not available anywhere else.  It is not "great" to the extent they are working with MoviePosterShop or making a profit off the site.  I've had an extensive email conversation with Martijn Weghorst, the owner of MPDB.  He admits they make a "small" profit off the site and have a relationship with MoviePosterShop but not with MovieGoods. (Whether that's true or not doesn't matter, they're both reprint vendors who illegally sell posters without licenses.)

So no, I don't "endorse" them 100%.  I just recognize they do offer a comprehensive service not available anywhere else.

Perhaps you're willing to make the time and effort to start a conflict-free, 100% free new image database?  No? What a surprise.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 16, 2011, 09:50:01 PM
What questionable items does Mel endorse?

In many of his image lists he includes quasi-posters (Killian tributes, commercial etc.) along side actual movie posters without noting the difference.  The can give a false impression to the newer collectors that the site is designed to attract.

Also, here is an example of the partially correct information that Mel seems to specialize in:

"Miramax recalled the first Pulp Fiction poster after because it did not have permission to use “Lucky Strike” cigarette and “Harlot Heart” book imagery.  This poster is now extremely rare and valuable.  The replacement poster (below center) shows a generic pack of cigarettes and the book “Pulp Fiction” instead."  

Here, using the term 'replacement poster' is incorrect at worst or mis-leading at best, because he shows the regular Pulp Fiction poster and not the dictionary advance, which was the 'replacement poster' for the recalled Lucky Strike.  Now, is this a big problem? No, but it can easily be misleading, particularly when dealing with new collectors.

Look, I like what Mel has tried to do, but I think he's been a bit slippery 'round the edges.  Hence, the grain of salt.


As for Mel's entirely predictable and tired response/personal attack, visit posterdb.com...

"are here primarily to "stir the shit" as you've eloquently bragged in the past." - please, pull the direct quote, I'll wait...



DreamWarrior, that is my new favorite 'I like where...' pic, thanks...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Disheveledamethyst on April 16, 2011, 10:30:42 PM
In many of his image lists he includes quasi-posters (Killian tributes, commercial etc.) along side actual movie posters without noting the difference.  The can give a false impression to the newer collectors that the site is designed to attract.

Also, here is an example of the partially correct information that Mel seems to specialize in:

"Miramax recalled the first Pulp Fiction poster after because it did not have permission to use “Lucky Strike” cigarette and “Harlot Heart” book imagery.  This poster is now extremely rare and valuable.  The replacement poster (below center) shows a generic pack of cigarettes and the book “Pulp Fiction” instead." 

Here, using the term 'replacement poster' is incorrect at worst or mis-leading at best, because he shows the regular Pulp Fiction poster and not the dictionary advance, which was the 'replacement poster' for the recalled Lucky Strike.  Now, is this a big problem? No, but it can easily be misleading, particularly when dealing with new collectors.

Look, I like what Mel has tried to do, but I think he's been a bit slippery 'round the edges.  Hence, the grain of salt.


As for Mel's entirely predictable and tired response/personal attack, visit posterdb.com...

"are here primarily to "stir the shit" as you've eloquently bragged in the past." - please, pull the direct quote, I'll wait...



DreamWarrior, that is my new favorite 'I like where...' pic, thanks...

I think that's a really trivial nitpick. That website is his collection, with information on the posters he owns. If he owned the "dictionary advance", there would be reason to mention it. I mean, I have blurbs below all the posters in my collection, but I seldom mention ones that I don't own. If he was putting together a comprehensive explanation of all Pulp Fiction posters it would be a different story.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 16, 2011, 10:47:39 PM
I think that's a really trivial nitpick. That website is his collection, with information on the posters he owns. If he owned the "dictionary advance", there would be reason to mention it. I mean, I have blurbs below all the posters in my collection, but I seldom mention ones that I don't own. If he was putting together a comprehensive explanation of all Pulp Fiction posters it would be a different story.

Your incorrect, whether or not he owns a poster has not stopped him from including anything on that site.  I am sure that there are a number of 'borrowed' images, unless Mel's been picking up a bunch of 30's Universal horror titles lately.

I agree, and stated in my post, that that particular issue is a minor one, but it typifies a general sloppiness that does no one any good.  I would agree more with your point if we were talking about a simple collector's web page, but we're not.  We are talking about a site designed as a prime reference for new collectors, where clarity and accuracy should be of utmost importance.

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Ari on April 16, 2011, 10:58:38 PM
While I agree LAMP could be prettied up, the wealth of knowledge there is unsurpassed as far as movie posters go. And its not THAT hard to navigate. Easy enough to google LAMP "insert query"  and go direct to what your after.

I use it often.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: 50s on April 17, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
here is an example of the partially correct information that Mel seems to specialize in:

Most websites will have errors, especially newer sites. If Mel has made an error on the site I am sure he will happily fix it up if you provide specific details. Building a site is a lot of hard work. Saying Mel specializes in partially correct information I think is being unfair. Mel is quite new to the hobby and learning fast. Can't ask for much more than that.

I agree, and stated in my post, that it is a minor issue, but it typifies a general sloppiness that does no one any good.  I would agree more with your point if we were talking about a simple collector's web page, but we're not.  We are talking about a site designed as a prime reference for new collectors, where clarity and accuracy should be of utmost importance.

Sorry Archie, but I think you need a reality check on this. Mel's site is not a $30K - $500K commercially built website, with money available to employ researchers, and time to burn, but it is built by a collector with, I assume, next to no finances for a new site, just an interest to do some good for the hobby. If we sat around waiting for just near perfect commercial sites to be developed, instead of enjoying the miriad of non commercial sites we visit and enjoy, the web for poster collectors would be a more barren unappealing place. If someone told me my new non commercial website had 'general sloppiness' I would tell them to either help, or F Off. Just let him know any better knowledge you may have about the subject matter and surely Mel would be more than happy to investigate and make the site more accurate. Good things start from small things. Mel has done an admirable job so far with his site. It is a great tool for newbies, that didnt exist before in such an easy to digest form.

Additionally, I agree with Mel, unless people have a website to share, they shouldn't be so critical of others websites.

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 17, 2011, 12:30:06 AM
Most websites will have errors, especially newer sites. If Mel has made an error on the site I am sure he will happily fix it up if you provide specific details. Building a site is a lot of hard work. Saying Mel specializes in partially correct information I think is being unfair. Mel is quite new to the hobby and learning fast. Can't ask for much more than that.

Getting things correct does not take money.  Not noting the difference between commercial posters and movie posters is not a mistake.  It was a choice.  Anyone can throw together a half-assed attempt, it only takes a modicum of effort to get things right.

Why would I bother correcting Mel?  He made it exceptionally clear that he was only interested in getting pats on the back for his website when he asked for 'feedback' the first time.  I will agree with your bolded statement, but I wonder how many new collector to APF or his site know that that is the case.  In many ways, it's the gist of the problem.

Sorry Archie, but I think you need a reality check on this. Mel's site is not a $30K - $500K commercially built website, with money available to employ researchers, and time to burn, but it is built by a collector with, I assume, next to no finances for a new site, just an interest to do some good for the hobby. If we sat around waiting for just near perfect commercial sites to be developed, instead of enjoying the miriad of non commercial sites we visit and enjoy, the web for poster collectors would be a more barren unappealing place. If someone told me my new non commercial website had 'general sloppiness' I would tell them to either help, or F Off. Just let him know any better knowledge you may have about the subject matter and surely Mel would be more than happy to investigate and make the site more accurate. Good things start from small things. Mel has done an admirable job so far with his site. It is a great tool for newbies, that didnt exist before in such an easy to digest form.

Additionally, I agree with Mel, unless people have a website to share, they shouldn't be so critical of others websites.

Please...  that is one of the lamest arguments going.  So Ebert is only qualified to judge the quality of a film because he wrote the script to Beyond the Valley of the Dolls?


BTW, the paper that minty white reprints are printed on was once considered a 'trivial' matter...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 17, 2011, 01:27:25 AM
At the risk of threadjacking my own thread, what happened to our Lakers eatbrie? I did not see such a poor regular season finish coming. I do feel confident about their ability to kick it up in the playoffs. Kobe needs number six! 8)

Good God, I was going thru today's diatribe and almost missed the most important question: What happened to the Lakers?  I'll tell you what happened to them.  As always, they are the most unreliable team in the NBA, capable of pure greatness and able to turn it off from one moment to the other.  They did turn it off, but I believe, I believe they can prevail.  In the West, I only worry about OC.  SA, Dallas, Denver... bah, couldn't care less.  But Kevin Durant scares me a little.  In the East, all I want is for the Celts and the Bulls to win.  I'd love a rematch with the Celts, but the Bulls would do fine.  In the end, the only thing I don't want is for the Heat to win.  Screw LeBron, the backstabber asshole.

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 17, 2011, 02:03:20 AM
Good God, I was going thru today's diatribe and almost missed the most important question: What happened to the Lakers?  I'll tell you what happened to them.  As always, they are the most unreliable team in the NBA, capable of pure greatness and able to turn it off from one moment to the other.  They did turn it off, but I believe, I believe they can prevail.  In the West, I only worry about OC.  SA, Dallas, Denver... bah, couldn't care less.  But Kevin Durant scares me a little.  In the East, all I want is for the Celts and the Bulls to win.  I'd love a rematch with the Celts, but the Bulls would do fine.  In the end, the only thing I don't want is for the Heat to win.  Screw LeBron, the backstabber asshole.

T

I am not sure what you keep going on about since the basketball season always ends the first weekend in April...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: 50s on April 17, 2011, 02:39:04 AM
Please...  that is one of the lamest arguments going.  So Ebert is only qualified to judge the quality of a film because he wrote the script to Beyond the Valley of the Dolls?

Judge it and give Mel feedback. There is currently a lot of great work in there. For those who have been building websites for a long while and practically understand the effort and commitment involved, I believe they wouldn't be so critical at this point of Mel's new hobby site, which is after all, a no budget, poster enthusiast built site, which is free for everyone to visit, utilize and enjoy... (Note, I also don't agree with using images without credits, but I have mentioned that previously)

He made it exceptionally clear that he was only interested in getting pats on the back for his website when he asked for 'feedback' the first time.

I don't have any problem with anyone building a website to mainly get pats on the back. Their has to be some motivation there for the creator, it is the output that matters to the visitor. I am close to finishing my new poster website and I will have a comments section there so people can bestow the highest praise in the land upon me and also worship me. There is otherwise little motivation in spending so much time creating it, to think few people will mention their appreciation or say they enjoyed visiting.
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Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 17, 2011, 03:07:34 AM
Judge it and give Mel feedback. There is currently a lot of great work in there. For those who have been building websites for a long while and practically understand the effort and commitment involved, I believe they wouldn't be so critical at this point of Mel's new hobby site, which is after all, a no budget, poster enthusiast built site, which is free for everyone to visit, utilize and enjoy... (Note, I also don't agree with using images without credits, but I have mentioned that previously)

I don't have any problem with anyone building a website to mainly get pats on the back. Their has to be some motivation there for the creator, it is the output that matters to the visitor. I am close to finishing my new poster website and I will have a comments section there so people can bestow the highest praise in the land upon me and also worship me. There is otherwise little motivation in spending so much time creating it, to think few people will mention their appreciation or say they enjoyed visiting.

You missed the key word 'only' in the segment that you quoted from my post.

I am, for several reasons, quite aware of the effort and commitment involved, but that is really not the point. The things that I mentioned (after revisiting his site for less than two minutes) take very little time and effort to correct. When you create a reference site aimed at new collectors you have a responsibility to provide accurate information.

You keep saying 'judge and give feedback'... but that has already happened and Mel proved incapable of handling criticism at the time (and at other times).  So, once again, I ask what is the point?

If anything, your comments support my suggestion that his website should be taken with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Severen on April 17, 2011, 04:39:25 AM
Indeed I do. The Exorcist, Nightmare on Elm Street(1&3), Halloween (1&2), Hellraiser(1,2,3,6), Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th (1&6), The Thing, House, They Live, Lost Boys, Scream, Fright Night, Silver Bullet, Wishmaster, House of 1000 Corpses, Devil's Rejects, Tremors, JC's Vampires, Alien(s), Predator (1&2), IT, Evil Dead, Army of Darkness, Jaws, Last Man On Earth, Omega Man, The Hitcher, Silence of the Lambs, Killer Klowns From Outer Space, Brainscan, Pet Cemetary. Those are off the top of my head and now I'll write them down.

Nice list Dreamwarrior! Looks like you and I have the same taste in movies.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 17, 2011, 09:27:15 AM
While I agree LAMP could be prettied up, the wealth of knowledge there is unsurpassed as far as movie posters go. And its not THAT hard to navigate. Easy enough to google LAMP "insert query"  and go direct to what your after.

I use it often.


I also use it often. There is a load of info in there.

I have to disagree on ease of use. Anybody can use it as its not impossible but compared to most every other site and what people are now used to its hard to navigate.
Sure I am pretty good at it now but that came with a visit or two and a couple of "What the fucks. Where the hell is that page. I know I found it last time" moments..

Maybe its not perfect but I love Mels site and give it two super  happy1 for all newbs. Its a great reference and no better place to start. Especially when you literally dont know anything
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 12:29:07 PM
Good God, I was going thru today's diatribe and almost missed the most important question: What happened to the Lakers?  I'll tell you what happened to them.  As always, they are the most unreliable team in the NBA, capable of pure greatness and able to turn it off from one moment to the other.  They did turn it off, but I believe, I believe they can prevail.  In the West, I only worry about OC.  SA, Dallas, Denver... bah, couldn't care less.  But Kevin Durant scares me a little.  In the East, all I want is for the Celts and the Bulls to win.  I'd love a rematch with the Celts, but the Bulls would do fine.  In the end, the only thing I don't want is for the Heat to win.  Screw LeBron, the backstabber asshole.

T
I think... I think I love you. :-* ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 12:35:11 PM
Nice list Dreamwarrior! Looks like you and I have the same taste in movies.
Thank you sir. Those are the movies I grew up watching. Nothing against the old classics but they don't mean as much to me. My dad wasn't concerned about scaring the shit out of me so I have been watching horror since I was four years old. Good god, did I have nightmares. Horror movies also have great poster art IMO and those titles listed can be had for a decent price. It's a win win. I almost forgot Leprechaun. It seems silly now but the first one scared me when I was little.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 17, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
Thank you sir. Those are the movies I grew up watching. Nothing against the old classics but they don't mean as much to me. My dad wasn't concerned about scaring the shit out of me so I have been watching horror since I was four years old. Good god, did I have nightmares. Horror movies also have great poster art IMO and those titles listed can be had for a decent price. It's a win win. I almost forgot Leprechaun. It seems silly now but the first one scared me when I was little.

My 30 yo daughter will still leave the room if there is any clown in there.  And we turned that darned movie (IT) off after the first 1/2 hour.  :o
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 17, 2011, 01:39:22 PM
This thread should be pinned. It is as least as worthy as any other that is currently pinned, and it would give encouragement to other new members to post.

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 17, 2011, 04:23:28 PM

"are here primarily to "stir the shit" as you've eloquently bragged in the past." - please, pull the direct quote, I'll wait.

...and wait...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 17, 2011, 06:05:46 PM
To any noob reading this... many people feel that that site is by scumbags, for scumbags.

Mel's continual endorsement of it, along with a number of other questionable items, is why you should take his website with a grain of salt.

I have to agree with Leach on this.

gun1 Movieposterdb is extremely dodgy! gun2

Mel seems to forget, and does not mention, that although the website is made up of images of genuine movie posters, it also includes FAN-MADE movie posters! And many criminals use that website to print & sell illegal prints of movie posters.

Mel - using that website, and being so open about it, means you do endorse it and couldn't care less about what people think of it. So what, you've spoken with the owner - that doesn't mean the website is above board! You just don't seem to grasp that. Why do you think the site is NOT linked into by almost ALL poster websites?? Think of your own reputation!

Most websites will have errors, especially newer sites. If Mel has made an error on the site I am sure he will happily fix it up if you provide specific details.

Been there - some mistakes I mentioned to him are still present.

but it is built by a collector with, I assume, next to no finances for a new site, just an interest to do some good for the hobby.

I highly doubt this, Steve.
Mel has publicly posted his spending in terms of posters - what was it? $40,000 or something?
If a person can spend that amount of money on posters then they can afford to build a website professionally, or even semi-professionally, rather than using their MAC.  cool1

Additionally, I agree with Mel, unless people have a website to share, they shouldn't be so critical of others websites.

I disagree.
Not many people have websites and if a person criticises one website, but praises another, then the owner of the criticised website should look at a better website to see if they agree with the other persons comments and to see what they could do to improve & develop their own website.

Now we all know Mel's psyche and attitude, and stubbornness, so I am going to say something:
Mel - you attack people all the time & lie about people a lot; your last reply to me was a sly dig. Just Chill. cheers
Take constructive criticism, because that's what this is all about.  whip

You have got to understand people are always going to criticise your website because of the nature of it. So take it.
When people are advising you, and sometimes telling you, to credit and attribute where you get your information from - do it!
You are making out to people (those who don't know you) that you are someone you are not.

Where is the pride in your reputation?
That's what I want to know, because to me someone who erases watermarks from an image and uploads it to their website has a lot of questions to answer.  uhno

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CJ138 on April 17, 2011, 06:52:38 PM
DreamWarrior,
To echo what has been said: be patient.  I do not doubt CineMasterpieces poster authenticity, however, I think you will find many of the posters you are looking for for less. I share your taste in movies and posters, check out my collection is linked in my signature. I have recently ascertained a few more but not photographed yet.

Best regards,
Conor
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 17, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
I share your taste in movies and posters, check out my collection is linked in my signature. I have recently ascertained a few more but not photographed yet.

Best regards,
Conor

Nice collection, Conor!
I like! happy1
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: wonka on April 17, 2011, 07:58:33 PM
I have to agree with Leach on this.

gun1 Movieposterdb is extremely dodgy! gun2

Mel seems to forget, and does not mention, that although the website is made up of images of genuine movie posters, it also includes FAN-MADE movie posters! And many criminals use that website to print & sell illegal prints of movie posters.

Mel - using that website, and being so open about it, means you do endorse it and couldn't care less about what people think of it. So what, you've spoken with the owner - that doesn't mean the website is above board! You just don't seem to grasp that. Why do you think the site is NOT linked into by almost ALL poster websites?? Think of your own reputation!

Been there - some mistakes I mentioned to him are still present.

I highly doubt this, Steve.
Mel has publicly posted his spending in terms of posters - what was it? $40,000 or something?
If a person can spend that amount of money on posters then they can afford to build a website professionally, or even semi-professionally, rather than using their MAC.  cool1

I disagree.
Not many people have websites and if a person criticises one website, but praises another, then the owner of the criticised website should look at a better website to see if they agree with the other persons comments and to see what they could do to improve & develop their own website.

Now we all know Mel's psyche and attitude, and stubbornness, so I am going to say something:
Mel - you attack people all the time & lie about people a lot; your last reply to me was a sly dig. Just Chill. cheers
Take constructive criticism, because that's what this is all about.  whip

You have got to understand people are always going to criticise your website because of the nature of it. So take it.
When people are advising you, and sometimes telling you, to credit and attribute where you get your information from - do it!
You are making out to people (those who don't know you) that you are someone you are not.

Where is the pride in your reputation?
That's what I want to know, because to me someone who erases watermarks from an image and uploads it to their website has a lot of questions to answer.  uhno



Adz, go outside and play.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: AdamCarterJones on April 17, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
Making valid points, mate.
They are not personal attacks on Mel - or can't you see that?
Definitely cannot see the problem with what I have said, especially regarding movieposterdb.

I have been outside actually  laugh1
Been playing football (or soccer to you guys).
In fact, been outside most of the day! ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Nice collection, Conor!
I like! happy1
+1 Very similar taste in movies, well done. Very cool Nightmare posters. Repo man is a great cult classic.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
Nice list, DW. Another horror buff here, too.  ;)

As others have suggested, hunt around and dig some.. you will find and fulfill your want list-- they are out there, and the hunt is what makes it exciting!

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CJ138 on April 17, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
Thanksfor the compliments fellas, DreamWarrior I will keep an eye out for stuff on your wishlist  and give you a heads up (as long as its not on mine!)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Thanks CJ138, and thanks to everyone for the help! It is really nice to get such a good response being a new member.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 17, 2011, 08:43:14 PM
...check out my collection is linked in my signature. I have recently ascertained a few more but not photographed yet.

Every time I look at Conor's collection, I see ZONE TROOPERS and say, "WTF?"
 wynk
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CJ138 on April 17, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
HAHAHA well played sir, well played. Zone Troopers.......
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 17, 2011, 08:59:55 PM
Nice list, DW. Another horror buff here, too.  ;)

As others have suggested, hunt around and dig some.. you will find and fulfill your want list-- they are out there, and the hunt is what makes it exciting!

Jeff

The funny thing about DreamWarrior's list is that I don't consider myself a horror fan by any means, but I like-to-love a good 50% of it.  Well made movie are worth watching, no matter the genre.  Heck, even The Exorcist is one of the best comedies ever made.



BTW, I agree with Bruce.  This thread is an excellent primer for any new collectors who stop by APF.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 09:17:15 PM
 Heck, even The Exorcist is one of the best comedies ever made.


"Mirabili Dictu, don't you agree?"

(http://gi271.photobucket.com/groups/jj141/2BH9YKDMZJ/dddoooooo.gif)


Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 09:22:09 PM
Heck, even The Exorcist is one of the best comedies ever made.
How dare you, how...dare...you. I would smite you through the internet, but that's much too vulgar a display of power.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 09:47:58 PM
"...that's much too vulgar a display of power,

KARRAS."
(http://www.oddfilms.com/blog/media/exorcist-regan-mcneil.jpg)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 17, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
STOP!

I was taken to this movie at age nine. I still have bad dreams.

The Exorcism of Emily Rose is even creepier. I dont like waking up at 3:33 a.m. 8)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 09:56:16 PM
STOP!

I was taken to this movie at age nine. I still have bad dreams.

The Exorcism of Emily Rose is even creepier. I dont like waking up at 3:33 a.m. 8)

Creepier? why? because she does better back bends??   or better   puke
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
Ok, Ok.. It was just Linda Blair in makeup...  :o

(http://9a.img.v4.skyrock.net/9af/lindamorgane/pics/2989419529_1_3_sr0IEoop.gif)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 17, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Thats even scarier!

......And what? You dont think Laura Linney is creepy?  :P

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 17, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
STOP!

I was taken to this movie at age nine. I still have bad dreams.

The Exorcism of Emily Rose is even creepier. I dont like waking up at 3:33 a.m. 8)
You just can't beat Mercedes McCambridge's voice as Regan.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 10:08:02 PM
You just can't beat Mercedes McCambridge's voice as Regan.

With her voice, It was always "an excellent day for an Exorcism...."
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 17, 2011, 10:08:55 PM
You just can't beat Mercedes McCambridge's voice as Regan.

"This sow is mine!"

Now I am going to have nightmares.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 17, 2011, 10:20:43 PM
I like this Spanish OS for the film, which I am thinking is a later re-release poster?:

(http://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Exorcist-I-posters-1.png)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: wonka on April 17, 2011, 10:26:12 PM
Off topic, but Linda Blair is much creepier in person, if you can believe it.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Dread_Pirate_Mel on April 17, 2011, 11:19:59 PM
I have to agree with Leach on this.

Really Adam, aren't you ever going to shut up? You're like a broken record.  Everybody knows you're just using any excuse to launch personal attacks against me because you're perpetually enraged about stupid stuff that happened long ago.  But I guess I should thank "divine providence" that I haven't recently received any more wacky emails from you telling me how I'm "demonically evil" and have "ruined your life" and how you're going to sue me for fraud unless I "apologise" to you.

And by the way, despite your endless trash-talking about me, I think your Bond site is pretty good but - strictly as "constructive" criticism - you should ditch the cheesy ads:

(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Ludicrousads.png)


Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 17, 2011, 11:53:36 PM
Really, Guys.  Is this the image we want for Dreamweaver and other new members? 

Yep, pin this one and see how we snipe at each other like a bunch of bitchy <add your own derogatory category here>
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: kovacs01 on April 17, 2011, 11:55:49 PM
Ok, so now that we have established that Mel does not take criticism well, Jason is here only to instigate trouble, and Adam likes drama and runs his mouth off. But its ok because we are all fucked up in some way or another and all here because we love the hobby.  But none of that really helps the OP.

My advice is to look lots of places for information before you buy.  There are a lot of sites, and all display different information in a wide range of formats.  None of them have all the information you need or guarantee to be 100% correct all of the time.  Not all of them endorse only sellers that i would put on my own personal trusted list.  Not all sellers always know or disclose exactly what it is they have for sale, even the best out there.  The good ones, however, will make things right if there is an issue.  Sometimes you can get a good authentic poster at a good price from a known whack job.  What you gain in price, you sacrifice in security when dealing with these types.  If there is a problem, they will put their own arm into a wood chipper before you see any money back.  But, this shouldn't steer you away from someone just because their wares seem to be cheaper then everyone else's.  Sometimes lower prices are just that, and you see no appreciable drop in service or condition!  

In the end, there really is no substitute for experience.  I'm willing to bet that every one of the more experienced collectors here has been burned once (or more) when purchasing.  The nature of the hobby combined with buying things online with just a photo as representation of the product make it inevitable.  We all can try to give you experience by proxy, which is helpful, but not the same thing.  Take it slow and do a lot of research before opening the wallet.  You will be glad you did.

Oh, and very nice stuff Conor!  I have several of those on my list.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Ari on April 18, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
yes, DONT WORRY, DONT HURRY, it is NOT the only copy that exists. Another WILL come along (unless you are a certain type of collector that likes things like Metropolis - but ahh well).

relax, and buy it when you are ready, happy with the item, and happy with the price.

again, DON"T PANIC, theres more out there.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 18, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
My advice is to look lots of places for information before you buy.  There are a lot of sites, and all display different information in a wide range of formats.  None of them have all the information you need or guarantee to be 100% correct all of the time.  Not all of them endorse only sellers that i would put on my own personal trusted list.  Not all sellers always know or disclose exactly what it is they have for sale, even the best out there.  The good ones, however, will make things right if there is an issue.  Sometimes you can get a good authentic poster at a good price from a known whack job.  What you gain in price, you sacrifice in security when dealing with these types.  If there is a problem, they will their own arm into a wood chipper before you see any money back.  But, this shouldn't steer you away from someone just because their wares seem to be cheaper then everyone else's.  Sometimes lower prices are just that, and you see no appreciable drop in service or condition!  

Well said, but you forgot the phrase 'grain of salt'...


Oh, and your country dresses you funny...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 18, 2011, 01:19:01 AM
BTW, here's a prime example of a normally solid, if overly flamboyant, dealer who is mistakenly sellling a reproduction as an original...

Here's the auction listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038)

Here's the thread on NSFGE that gives the correct info (most of it is about Pulp Fiction, but it also covers these Reservoir Dogs UK posters):

http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319 (http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319)


You'll also note that in the thread Bruce, as usual in these situations, did the right thing.  Posteritati no longer shows the Sam Jackson mock poster for sale.  Hopefully, they pulled it and didn't sell it as an original.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Ari on April 18, 2011, 01:25:12 AM
Hey NS4 still has its place? (you darn youngsters always stealing the show).
oh and anyone  thinking we aint in the loop.

http://www.maineantiquedigest.com/stories/index.html?id=1730


;)

BTw I think both have a particular place, xx's to Holiday and Cheesy.

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: joneyyy on April 18, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
this thread has become shocking..
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 18, 2011, 08:55:36 AM
Voila! She has been pinned...  thumbup
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 18, 2011, 09:04:16 AM
"this thread has become shocking.."

Maybe so, but doesn't it sum up what APF is all about (and more happens here in a day than on most other forums in a week or a month).

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 18, 2011, 09:44:29 AM
BTW, he's a prime example of a normally solid, if overly flamboyant, dealer who is mistakenly sellling a reproduction as an original...

Here's the auction listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038)

Here's the thread on NSFGE that gives the correct info (most of it is about Pulp Fiction, but it also covers these Reservoir Dogs UK posters):

http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319 (http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319)


You'll also note that in the thread Bruce, as usual in these situations, did the right thing.  Posteritati no longer shows the Sam Jackson mock poster for sale.  Hopefully, they pulled it and didn't sell it as an original.

NSFGE has some very good info on posters and people. Great place to search to aid your research.

I just learned some new stuff in that thread  :)



 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 18, 2011, 09:45:59 AM
"this thread has become shocking.."

Maybe so, but doesn't it sum up what APF is all about (and more happens here in a day than on most other forums in a week or a month).

Bruce

This is the poster place to be and it is very newb friendly.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: 110x75 on April 18, 2011, 09:57:41 AM
NSFGE has some very good info on posters and people. Great place to search to aid your research.

I just learned some new stuff in that thread  :)
 

NSFGE It is indeed a great source for info (and fun too!)
I think I`ve read the whole thread archives at least 2 times and always find something new
It does seem to have less traffic nowadays, but it is the first poster forum I`ve joined and spent countless hours there just reading, so I`m  bed1 with it.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 11:24:29 AM
I like this Spanish OS for the film, which I am thinking is a later re-release poster?:

(http://horrornews.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Exorcist-I-posters-1.png)
Funny you should post that. I was looking at the Spanish 1sh online. For some reason I really like "El Exorcista". It sounds cool. 8)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 18, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
It is a nice image, isn't it?
                                   (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/brude2000/GIFS/Exorcist-BW.gif)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
I haven't been here long enough to pick a side of these arguments, nor am I interested in doing so. I have no grounds to judge the alleged mistakes on Mel's website, and have yet to find a reason to question his advice regarding sellers legitamicy or his general knowledge of authentic originals. Perhaps these issues should be brought up in another thread. At least the in-fighting here is nothing compared to the firearm related froums I frequent. :o

Moving on. For some reason I had trouble drawing a portrait of Linda Blair and never completed one. BTW I am a somewhat decent artist and draw a number of horror portraits. I am now inspired to give it another go.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2011, 12:23:28 PM
This is some thread, And you DreamWarrior must be as confused as hell...  :-\


If you still haven't bought your first poster, just jump in feet first. You'll eventually learn how to swim. ;)   
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
I am a little confused Paul but I'm good. Thanks to a couple members here I found what will probably be my first poster. I will let you guys know and post a pic.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2011, 12:29:40 PM
Jollygood.... pcorn
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 18, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
Moving on. For some reason I had trouble drawing a portrait of Linda Blair and never completed one. BTW I am a somewhat decent artist and draw a number of horror portraits. I am now inspired to give it another go.

Do you have any samples you are willing to share?
I (for one) am always interested in artists.
In fact, many APF members seem to have art backgrounds.
Maybe we should get a thread started like Ari's on NSFGE...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
Not a bad Idea Ted, I would love to see some of your stuff, especially after the Mars attacks kit pics we talked about... 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 12:55:07 PM
Do you have any samples you are willing to share?
I (for one) am always interested in artists.
In fact, many APF members seem to have art backgrounds.
Maybe we should get a thread started like Ari's on NSFGE...
<See avatar
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: paul waines on April 18, 2011, 12:58:13 PM
That is quite the ticket, you do know we are a greedy bunch and will now need to see some more... ;D
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 18, 2011, 01:11:37 PM
That is quite the ticket, you do know we are a greedy bunch and will now need to see some more... ;D


True that!...and one day Paul will run out of quads to flash us with....Nah.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: brude on April 18, 2011, 01:13:04 PM
<See avatar

Verrrry nice.  At first glance, I thought it was a photo.  thumbup
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 18, 2011, 01:55:50 PM
Verrrry nice.  At first glance, I thought it was a photo.  thumbup


Same here. I thought that that was the actual dude.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 02:40:51 PM
You guys are too kind, thank you. It is probably my best work so if I show any more they won't be quite as good.

Edit:Here is a link to a bigger pinhead pic and some others for erik and anyone else who wants to look. http://s939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/slippy6666/Drawings/
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: wonka on April 18, 2011, 03:47:15 PM
DreamWarrior, it never fails, at least once or twice a year, some random thread will take several pages of turns that delve into the most dramatic and random commentary.  While it is entertaining and sometimes insightful, our musings here can really distort a thread's initial intentions, especially a good one that you started...so sorry about that.

Still, there are great points to be made here, and I hope you are finding the answers you were/are after here amongst the muck and the mire.

Us poster nerds are passionate about our paper...and at the end of the day, its a good thing. 
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 18, 2011, 03:47:41 PM
Ohhh popping the poster cherry! This is exciting...
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 04:09:16 PM
Ohhh popping the poster cherry! This is exciting...
Oh shit, I placed a bid. Dun dun dun!  :o qip
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2011, 04:10:50 PM
Getting back to your initial questions and comments, Dream... this page would be good to look thru, too, while on your search:

http://filmfan.com/pages/faq_6.html

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Thanks Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: ddilts399 on April 18, 2011, 04:15:14 PM
Getting back to your initial questions and comments, Dream... this page would be good to look thru, too, while on your search:

http://filmfan.com/pages/faq_6.html

Jeff

Never seen that page before!
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 18, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
I haven't been here long enough to pick a side of these arguments, nor am I interested in doing so. I have no grounds to judge the alleged mistakes on Mel's website, and have yet to find a reason to question his advice regarding sellers legitamicy or his general knowledge of authentic originals. Perhaps these issues should be brought up in another thread. At least the in-fighting here is nothing compared to the firearm related froums I frequent. :o

It's not about picking sides - it's about maintaining a healthy skepticism of new information, which is a good idea for any collector, particularly a new one.  You should have a reason to question anyone's advice, not just Mel, as even the most knowledgeable of experts make mistakes.  There are exceptions for most every rule.  

I posted the links to Dave's/Cinemasterpieces auction and the corresponding info link to illustrate the fact that even the better dealers make mistakes, not start (yet another) Dave bashing thread, which I am glad this has not devolved into...  

Kovacs laid it out really well, all the due diligence in the world, while certainly helpful, will only get you so far.  After that, nothing beats experience.  Hopefully, places like APF speed the learning curve.

All of this makes the discussion, despite attempts to devolve it into a mud slinging affair (still waiting Mel), quite germane to your endeavor into this hobby and for others who may join in the future.

Personally, I wish you the best of luck... and recommend only bidding in the last 15 seconds of any eBay auction and at the 6 minute point of Bruce's...  :)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Cj on April 18, 2011, 07:08:08 PM
It's not about picking sides - it's about maintaining a healthy skepticism of new information, which is a good idea for any collector, particularly a new one.  You should have a reason to question anyone's advice, not just Mel, as even the most knowledgeable of experts make mistakes.  There are exceptions for most every rule. 

I posted the links to Dave's/Cinemasterpieces auction and the corresponding info link to illustrate the fact that even the better dealers make mistakes, not start (yet another) Dave bashing thread, which I am glad this has not devolved into... 

Kovacs laid it out really well, all the due diligence in the world, while certainly helpful, will only get you so far.  After that, nothing beats experience.  Hopefully, places like APF speed the learning curve.

All of this makes the discussion, despite attempts to devolve it into a mud slinging affair (still waiting Mel), quite germane to your endeavor into this hobby and for others who may join in the future.

Well said Archie!

CJ
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: eatbrie on April 18, 2011, 07:23:35 PM
Personally, I wish you the best of luck... and recommend only bidding in the last 15 seconds of any eBay auction and at the 6 minute point of Bruce's...  :)

Last 4 seconds of any Ebay auction (15 seconds is enough time for a comeback), and 4:30 minute point of Bruce's...  Under 5 for sure, since he does 5 minutes increments.

T
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 18, 2011, 07:30:46 PM
Last 4 seconds of any Ebay auction (15 seconds is enough time for a comeback), and 4:30 minute point of Bruce's...  Under 5 for sure, since he does 5 minutes increments.

I was ball-parking the utmost limit.

If you bid under the 5 minute mark for Bruce doesn't it kick into extendo mode?
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 18, 2011, 08:21:10 PM


If you bid under the 5 minute mark for Bruce doesn't it kick into extendo mode?

Yes, it does..
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 18, 2011, 08:44:01 PM
It's not about picking sides - it's about maintaining a healthy skepticism of new information, which is a good idea for any collector, particularly a new one.  You should have a reason to question anyone's advice, not just Mel, as even the most knowledgeable of experts make mistakes.  There are exceptions for most every rule.  

I posted the links to Dave's/Cinemasterpieces auction and the corresponding info link to illustrate the fact that even the better dealers make mistakes, not start (yet another) Dave bashing thread, which I am glad this has not devolved into...  

Kovacs laid it out really well, all the due diligence in the world, while certainly helpful, will only get you so far.  After that, nothing beats experience.  Hopefully, places like APF speed the learning curve.

All of this makes the discussion, despite attempts to devolve it into a mud slinging affair (still waiting Mel), quite germane to your endeavor into this hobby and for others who may join in the future.

Personally, I wish you the best of luck... and recommend only bidding in the last 15 seconds of any eBay auction and at the 6 minute point of Bruce's...  :)
Fair enough. I have been taking what I consider vital information from this thread, PMs from multiple members, and other websites and cross checking to the best of my ability. I have learned a lot in a short amount of time and am slowly building a knowledge base to reach my goals. Valididty of advice aside, I do believe everyone here is trying to help. My job is to figure out who is really helping. As for as my bid goes I don't have grounds to retract it, not that it would matter at this point. I am not too worried about and will take your advice next time. I'll walk if things start going bad.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 19, 2011, 08:45:13 AM
The best time to bid is 5 minutes and a few seconds. That way, you don't extend the auction, and if you make it through those five minutes, it's yours (and if someone does bid, you will have five minutes from that time to decide whether to re-bid).

All the time I see eBay escapees who bid with seconds to go, thinking they are sniping, and they actually extend the auction almost a full five minutes! There are also the jokers who try to use psychological warfare and wait almost five minutes over and over, and sometimes they will extend an auction 30 minutes that way. Sometimes they DO wear down their opponent, but sometimes a new person discovers this much extended auction, and comes in to bid, and they likely never would have if the guy hadn't played his mind games.

Important! If you have several items that close within a short while, open a separate tab or window for each of them, as it is far easier to keep track of them that way.

Bruce

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 19, 2011, 09:23:55 AM
Really good strategies, Bruce.

Unfortunately for me, my family often makes demands on me that keeps me away from the keyboard during close times.  I have several items bid on Wednesday's movieposterbid auction, but Wednesday is my daughter's 14th birthday and I know she is going to want to go out for dinner.

So, that causes me to think a bit harder.  What is the maximum I am willing to pay for an item, now that it is some time away from closing.  I decide and bid that, generally on the day.  Then I walk away.  I lose a lot that way, but I also don't get drawn into that last minute frenzy where I could find myself bidding $1500 on a Dumb aned Dumber poster because "I'm not going to let that bastard have it"

When I do win, I am happy that I got it at a fair price.  When I don't, I can re-evaluate and decide if my max price was realistic.

Of course, that doesn't work for one of a kind stuff.  Then it's all out war. gun1
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 19, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
Jay

When you can't be there at the end, that is all you can do, but it is harder than it seems to "just pick a number"!

Here's what I recommend. Think of your bid amount, and then imagine how you would feel if you were outbid by one bid. If you would feel like you should have bid more, then revise your bid upward. Then imagine how you would feel if you won it at your exact maximum. If you would feel like you should have bid less, then revise your bid downward.

I get SO many people who say, "I wish I had bid more" and some who say "I bid high and never expected I would have to pay that amount, and now I am sorry I bid so high" and BOTH these can often be averted by putting more thought into what your personal "magic" bid amount should be!

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 19, 2011, 10:11:46 AM
I see what you are saying, but I think that means that these people are not really thinking through their point of pain.

When I lose, 9 times out of ten the item goes for 1 bid higher than my max number.  That tells me I am in the ballpark, but I don't know how high the other person was willing to raise.  I see all too many cases where two bidders go back and forth in the last minutes.  That tells me that neither one has a good idea of their max price.  Since these auctions are proxy bid, you really should be putting in a max price near the end and sticking with it.  Otherwise I can promise you will have buyers regret.

The ebay auctions without extended bidding end up effectively being sealed bid auctions with a 7 day preview period.  Since all the action happens in the last 5 seconds, you only get one chance to make your best bid.  The unfortunate part is that you need to be there to make that bid, or rely on whether a snipe program will work correctly.

Your extended bid policy helps some as it makes the snipe programs useless.  However, you still need to be present.

I have really wondered how well a true sealed bid auction would work.  Everyone puts in their max bid and at the close the best one is revealed.  I expect that the results would be similar to ebay, but probably not as high on the average as Bruce's.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 19, 2011, 11:26:22 AM
The best time to bid is 5 minutes and a few seconds. That way, you don't extend the auction, and if you make it through those five minutes, it's yours (and if someone does bid, you will have five minutes from that time to decide whether to re-bid).

All the time I see eBay escapees who bid with seconds to go, thinking they are sniping, and they actually extend the auction almost a full five minutes! There are also the jokers who try to use psychological warfare and wait almost five minutes over and over, and sometimes they will extend an auction 30 minutes that way. Sometimes they DO wear down their opponent, but sometimes a new person discovers this much extended auction, and comes in to bid, and they likely never would have if the guy hadn't played his mind games.

Important! If you have several items that close within a short while, open a separate tab or window for each of them, as it is far easier to keep track of them that way.

Bruce




Good advice bruce. Thank you. BTW, I'm diggn' your site.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 19, 2011, 03:08:54 PM
I know Im really probably not yet qualified to be giving advice at just over 18 months of this but I just love to post!  and I really like to share my mistakes...Some more tips from the unqualified.  8)
 
 Carefully read auction descriptions and look at enlarged pics if available.
I have on different occasions bought linen backed , rereleases, damaged worse than I somehow thought posters and once a video poster cause I became a bit too excited and didnt pay close enough attention. 
 Also and if possible, stay away from auctions when drinking...Been there and felt that.
My biggest mistake was and probably still is not always fully researching the poster I am buying and or the seller if it is on ebay.  pctrash

Oh and ofcourse the keyword might be patience....Words of wisdom from down under....
yes, DONT WORRY, DONT HURRY, it is NOT the only copy that exists. Another WILL come along (unless you are a certain type of collector that likes things like Metropolis - but ahh well).

relax, and buy it when you are ready, happy with the item, and happy with the price.

again, DON"T PANIC, theres more out there.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Harry Caul on April 19, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
I wonder if Heritage refunded this buyer!

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&Lot_No=86062


BTW, here's a prime example of a normally solid, if overly flamboyant, dealer who is mistakenly sellling a reproduction as an original...

Here's the auction listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038)

Here's the thread on NSFGE that gives the correct info (most of it is about Pulp Fiction, but it also covers these Reservoir Dogs UK posters):

http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319 (http://stylec.yuku.com/reply/102319/Real-Fake-or-Real-Fake-Bruce-Posteritati#reply-102319)


You'll also note that in the thread Bruce, as usual in these situations, did the right thing.  Posteritati no longer shows the Sam Jackson mock poster for sale.  Hopefully, they pulled it and didn't sell it as an original.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 19, 2011, 06:35:11 PM
I wonder if Heritage refunded this buyer!

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&Lot_No=86062


If they did or ever do we can all pitch in an extra $150 and he can still get that fake Mr Blonde poster!

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 19, 2011, 07:11:15 PM
I wonder if Heritage refunded this buyer!

http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=695&Lot_No=86062

Heck, maybe this is where Dave found his...
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52309 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52309)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 19, 2011, 07:16:12 PM
Heck, maybe this is where Dave found his...
http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52309 (http://movieposters.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=511022&Lot_No=52309)

Doesnt look like it. The repro Heritage sold has a tear in the upper right corner that Dave's doesnt appear to have.

The guy who bought the Heritage fake got a deal  :P

Heritage  :-[
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 19, 2011, 10:46:54 PM
BTW, here's a prime example of a normally solid, if overly flamboyant, dealer who is mistakenly sellling a reproduction as an original...

Here's the auction listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038 (http://cgi.ebay.com/RESERVOIR-DOGS-MR-BLONDE-ORIG-BRITISH-MOVIE-POSTER-/180634808376?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eac7038)




So, is the current CineMast listing for a reproduction? If so, why isnt it indicated in the description somewhere (or been changed and updated)?   :-\

Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: archie leach on April 19, 2011, 11:54:53 PM

So, is the current CineMast listing for a reproduction? If so, why isnt it indicated in the description somewhere (or been changed and updated)?   :-\

Yes it is.  Dave's probably unaware that it's a reprint, much like Heritage, which has sold three of them.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 20, 2011, 11:07:48 AM

 Also and if possible, stay away from auctions when drinking...Been there and felt that.
I can taste neither the fermentation of grape, nor of wheat.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on April 20, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
Yes it is.  Dave's probably unaware that it's a reprint, much like Heritage, which has sold three of them.


I just looked at the listing.. it still describes this poster is the real deal. Since CineMast is a member here, I would think he would look into this possible issue and, if, as you say, Archie, that poster is a repro, either amend or pull the auction. That would make the most sense, unless CM stands by their assertion that it is genuine. But if there is any question, it should be sussed out.  :)


Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 20, 2011, 05:24:30 PM
Someone send Dave a message.  I am sure he will pull it or edit it  - with an appropriate explanation of course.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 20, 2011, 05:51:25 PM
"he will pull it or edit it"

Perhaps he will be SHOCKED to discover there is a repro described as original?

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: CSM on April 20, 2011, 09:03:07 PM
"he will pull it or edit it"

Perhaps he will be SHOCKED to discover there is a repro described as original?

Bruce

Hence the "appropriate explanation" qualifier ;)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 22, 2011, 12:18:03 AM
I lost my first auction. It got too high and I had to walk. Oh well, maybe next time.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: wonka on April 22, 2011, 12:29:44 AM
I lost my first auction. It got too high and I had to walk. Oh well, maybe next time.

Sorry dude, but you are in the club now, no denying it.

Oral sex is still sex.

And you can go all the way next time.

:)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 22, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
Sorry dude, but you are in the club now, no denying it.

Oral sex is still sex.

And you can go all the way next time.

:)
rofl1 I've got my eye on several others, so it won't be long before I give it another go.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: jayn_j on April 22, 2011, 11:49:10 AM
rofl1 I've got my eye on several others, so it won't be long before I give it another go.

Depends on if you were doing ebay or one of the weekly auctions (emovieposter, movieposterbid, heritage, etc).  If the later, I find that a couple of posters always take on a life of their own and the price goes crazy.  At the same time, others that are equally desirable, just sit there and can be picked up cheap.

There are good examples in Bruce's database where a poster goes for $100+ and a few weeks later, the same poster in similar condition goes for $30.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on April 22, 2011, 12:03:27 PM
It was ebay.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 22, 2011, 03:04:34 PM
There are good examples in Bruce's database where a poster goes for $100+ and a few weeks later, the same poster in similar condition goes for $30.

Very true. I have been on both ends of that numerous times. Happily usually the lower end.  :)
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Bruce on April 22, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
"There are good examples in Bruce's database where a poster goes for $100+ and a few weeks later, the same poster in similar condition goes for $30."

Oddly though, there are also some where it goes the opposite way. It is all in who was there bidding that day. You want to be there the day Mr Deep Pockets is sleeping, or at the movies, and you can't predict that, so you want to bid $30 each time, knowing most times you will be blown away, until you finally get that $30 super bargain.

In this hobby, it is the PERSISTENT bird that catches the worm!

Bruce
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: Zorba on April 23, 2011, 08:03:08 PM
"he will pull it or edit it"

Perhaps he will be SHOCKED to discover there is a repro described as original?

Bruce

I like you...When many revert to the so easy butt kiss, you dont.

Yes it is.  Dave's probably unaware that it's a reprint, much like Heritage, which has sold three of them.

Its been a few days and I have seen him reading this thread at least twice...

Is he still unaware?   laugh1

Or maybe the poster isnt a fake?.... I would really love to know.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on May 07, 2011, 10:38:44 PM
What is the skinny on the white foamcore used in HPFs economy frames? Is it acid free like the archival frames setups or just mostly acid free. Are they good enough or should I pony up the dough for the archival if I want them to remain in perfect condition "forever".
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on May 07, 2011, 11:08:31 PM
It sounds like unless you upgrade to the archival, acid-free foamcore, this is just your basic kind of foamcore.

Best thing would be to email Sue and ask her: email@hollywoodposterframes.com

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: SHOCKWAVE on June 01, 2011, 12:17:45 AM
i warrior i saw you come into the chat after the fact sry i missed ya :-( come back laters
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on June 01, 2011, 09:03:06 AM
I was shooting IMs back and forth with Jeff about the auction and thought I would see if anyone else might be doing the same in the chat. There are probably a lot of people here that bid with different names on emovie and like to keep to themselves during an auction.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: erik1925 on June 01, 2011, 02:11:59 PM
Kev,

Im sure identities are kept under wraps by many... it heightens the mystery, as well, especially when certain repeat, high bidders walk away with handfuls of posters after each auction.  8)

Jeff
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: DreamWarrior on June 01, 2011, 08:39:18 PM
Kev,

Im sure identities are kept under wraps by many... it heightens the mystery, as well, especially when certain repeat, high bidders walk away with handfuls of posters after each auction.  8)

Jeff
For sure, it's all part of the fun.
Title: Re: Newb looking to buy first poster. Need help
Post by: teamweapon on February 11, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
, but unless you're an uninformed millionaire, you can do much better for your dollar.


just read this thread and that line made me laugh, thats all really.
even though i quite like the idea of having a few folded posters linen backed, so they would look nice to display. the likely hood of this happening is slim to say the least.
 i would also say none of my posters would be worth any more linen backed or not :)