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Common Poster Subjects => Auction House, Dealer & Other Seller Experiences => Topic started by: Disheveledamethyst on April 02, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
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So, after almost two months of waiting, I got tired of eBay telling me I had to leave feedback for Thomas Loce. As many of you already know, the poster was a pathetic reprint - like, a really pathetic one - Mel did an authentication here: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1977.0.html (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1977.0.html)
I never left him feedback because he was at least courteous, but it always bothered me that somebody so infamous could have such strong positive feedback. So I locked my doors, drew the shades, and left him negative feedback. Not wanting to be called out for libel, I was as objective and honest as I could be.
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This was only about an hour ago. Just a few minutes ago, I received a message in my inbox. He was clearly very displeased by the negative feedback.
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To anybody who doesn't recall, he claimed when the poster first arrived to me that accidentally harboring reprints is an unavoidable aspect of selling movie posters implying that not only was it not his fault he was selling me an obvious fake but that I should come to expect it for the rest of my collecting career. He then proposed that he give me a refund right away because he is apparently aware of his own reputation.
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I still think everybody on this forum should buy one poster from him and leave him negative feedback, but that's just the Italian in me. I just wanted to share my experience and hopefully others will refrain from doing business with him in the future.
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"MANY OF HIS POSTERS ARE SHAMELESS FAKES"
Anthony, you are awesome!
Guess I won't have to beat you up after all :)
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This shit just got real.
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To which I responded...
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Am I going to prison?
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"MANY OF HIS POSTERS ARE SHAMELESS FAKES"
Anthony, you are awesome!
Guess I won't have to beat you up after all :)
I think this statement is exactly why he now has the upper hand...Anthony you have no real proof many of his posters are shameless fakes,,only the one you bought..i hope you get a nice prison wife mate x
Stew
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I think this statement is exactly why he now has the upper hand...Anthony you have no real proof many of his posters are shameless fakes,,only the one you bought..i hope you get a nice prison wife mate x
Stew
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All I know is I can't afford any kind of legal action should he insist on pursuing it... I'm a college kid. A community college kid. He is sending me threatening messages insisting I file the forms to have the feedback removed. What should I do?
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All I know is I can't afford any kind of legal action should he insist on pursuing it... I'm a college kid. A community college kid. He is sending me threatening messages insisting I file the forms to have the feedback removed. What should I do?
He sold several of those Inception posters - so that's plural. As an experienced dealer, he knew those were fake as hell. So what you said is absolutely true.
It's all saber-rattling, of course. He has no intention of suing, just trying to intimidate you.
I'd represent you myself for free if I could, if he were actually to sue. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam won't let me - total ban on outside representation.
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He sold several of those Inception posters - so that's plural. As an experienced dealer, he knew those were fake as hell. So what you said is absolutely true.
It's all saber-rattling, of course. He has no intention of suing, just trying to intimidate you.
I'd represent you myself for free if I could, if he were actually to sue. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam won't let me - total ban on outside representation.
I told him I would go through the necessary actions to modify the feedback. If given the opportunity, I will change the message to say "but MY poster was a shameless fake." There is nothing not true or debatable about that.
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All I know is I can't afford any kind of legal action should he insist on pursuing it... I'm a college kid. A community college kid. He is sending me threatening messages insisting I file the forms to have the feedback removed. What should I do?
If he really pursues this, ask eBay if you can modify your feedback to state that the poster you bought was fake. Then you wouldn't be exaggerating.
On a side/related note, what a fucking scumbag!
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I told him I would go through the necessary actions to modify the feedback. If given the opportunity, I will change the message to say "but MY poster was a shameless fake." There is nothing not true or debatable about that.
One thing you could do to maintain your stance could be to adjust your negative feedback to neutral..you could leave a feedback as such....Poster received turned out to be Repro,Seller provided prompt full refund,many thanks.
Stew
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Maybe his fakes have shame?
Out of curiosity, what would be the cost of a lawsuit (if you live in different states) and what damages could he hope to collect?
It would be a really interesting trial. Maybe you could call some expert witnesses to comment on fake posters?
Bruce
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There. I modified the feedback to something less all-encompassing. We'll see if he is pleased - I did my damage with the negative feedback, I don't much care anymore what it says specifically if he's going to threaten to have me deported.
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Maybe you could call some expert witnesses to comment on fake posters?
Yes, if only there were some sort of expert who studied posters for living... a 'professor' of posters if you will. Then maybe he could testify on your behalf. ;)
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Yes, if only there were some sort of expert who studied posters for living... a 'professor' of posters if you will. Then maybe he could testify on your behalf. ;)
Where IS Professor Powers when you need him? Oh wait.
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Two words buddy, "idle threat". Feedback is YOUR opinion based on YOUR experience. I would'nt be concerned in the slightest.
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Yes, if only there were some sort of expert who studied posters for living... a 'professor' of posters if you will. Then maybe he could testify on your behalf. ;)
I think i might know someone on this,good,good friend of mine..gimme a while till i track him down...
Stew
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He requested I completely remove the negative feedback. I refused.
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This Star Wars lacks the GAU logo and is fake as hell:
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/War.jpg)
How much you want to bet this Scarface lacks the hash marks and is fake?
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Scarface.jpg)
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He's asking for the poster back now. What a stubborn man. If I gave him the poster back, my feedback would no longer be honest. I thought he hated dishonest feedback?
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Yes, if only there were some sort of expert who studied posters for living... a 'professor' of posters if you will. Then maybe he could testify on your behalf. ;)
;D ;D ;D
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He's asking for the poster back now. What a stubborn man. If I gave him the poster back, my feedback would no longer be honest. I thought he hated dishonest feedback?
Leave the (amended) negative and do not retract it. Do not send the poster back. He had already agreed to letting you keep it (unless you want to return it so he can use it to clean up his spilt milk!?)
He is clearly trying to intimidate you...
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He's asking for the poster back now. What a stubborn man. If I gave him the poster back, my feedback would no longer be honest. I thought he hated dishonest feedback?
Can anyone on the forum get in touch with Tloce and suggest he has had his fun...?
Come on Tloce..give the guy a break?
Stew
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Leave the (amended) negative and do not retract it. Do not send the poster back. He had already agreed to letting you keep it (unless you want to return it so he can use it to clean up his spilt milk!?)
He is clearly trying to intimidate you...
Don't worry. I told him flat out I wasn't changing my feedback any further. I then sent him a message saying if he wishes to avoid future confrontations like myself he should inspect his posters more carefully before he advertises them as originals. Even though I had to alter the wording of my feedback, it is still very satisfying to continually call him out in our ongoing correspondence. I'll be sure to post those excerpts in the next couple of hours. I told him I don't have the poster anymore, I sent it to have it authenticated by an experienced collector.
I wonder if Mel still has it. :P
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Can anyone on the forum get in touch with Tloce and suggest he has had his fun...?
Come on Tloce..give the guy a break?
Stew
Why contact him Stew? The feedback is now honest and Anthony is in NO DANGER.
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So hey, how do you guys feel about maybe taking it straight to eBay? We have several examples of posters he is trying to pass off as originals. I'm not saying we have him put out of business and thrown in jail but it would be nice to see eBay have him delist his fake posters.
But that's not something I could do alone, I'd need some serious support. "Back up", if you will... He threatened to call his "lawyer friend" when all I did was leave him negative feedback. God forbid action be taken against him.
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Does anyone here have any contacts at WB's art department? If so maybe we can hook Anthony up and offer to send his 1-sheet there for authentication... that will surely get the bottom of things and determine whether or not his feedback is genuine.
If so, Anthony, you should tell dickhead that you will be happy to return his poster, right after it has been sent to WB for authentication!
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So hey, how do you guys feel about maybe taking it straight to eBay? We have several examples of posters he is trying to pass off as originals. I'm not saying we have him put out of business and thrown in jail but it would be nice to see eBay have him delist his fake posters.
But that's not something I could do alone, I'd need some serious support. "Back up", if you will... He threatened to call his "lawyer friend" when all I did was leave him negative feedback. God forbid action be taken against him.
This has been attempted (or at least suggested) before but maybe not specifically for Loce. The consensus was eBay does not give two shits. Same goes for all the other fakes listed (i.e. watches, electronics, movies etc etc).
eBay will not do anything because they make $$$ from every sale and now even for shipping costs eyeroll
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The changed feedback is more true Chris,the original wasn`t.
Stew
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Don't worry. I told him flat out I wasn't changing my feedback any further. I then sent him a message saying if he wishes to avoid future confrontations like myself he should inspect his posters more carefully before he advertises them as originals. Even though I had to alter the wording of my feedback, it is still very satisfying to continually call him out in our ongoing correspondence. I'll be sure to post those excerpts in the next couple of hours. I told him I don't have the poster anymore, I sent it to have it authenticated by an experienced collector.
I wonder if Mel still has it. :P
Go back and look at the original refund email you received from him. I believe he told you a return is not necessary if it is "not feasible."
Just send him an email quoting his original email and that a return was optional.
Don't respond to any further emails. You're letting him intimidate you. You left truthful feedback and he had the chance to respond to it. End of story.
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So hey, how do you guys feel about maybe taking it straight to eBay? We have several examples of posters he is trying to pass off as originals. I'm not saying we have him put out of business and thrown in jail but it would be nice to see eBay have him delist his fake posters.
But that's not something I could do alone, I'd need some serious support. "Back up", if you will... He threatened to call his "lawyer friend" when all I did was leave him negative feedback. God forbid action be taken against him.
That will be very hard to prove with old posters. That is why I suggested using only the poster you bought and send it to the source (WB) while there are still people there who worked on the poster's creation/printing. If you try to make a case using something like Scarface, dickhead will just argue that there is uncertainty regarding the printing, but no concrete proof that it is fake.
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Don't return the poster. Ifhe chooses to sue, you need the poster in question as evidence. If you don't have any evidence, you have no way to defend yourself. Btw, people have been sued (and lost) after leaving negative comments about businesses on eBay, Yelp, etc. I remember a lawyer on eBay suing someone for libel because of the feedback they left, and a towing company doing the same over negative comments on Yelp (or some site like that). In both cases the libel charges stuck
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By the way, TLoce is probably laughing his ass off reading this thread right now. Mel is correct, just stop responding to this dick and get on with your life.
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Don't return the poster. Ifhe chooses to sue, you need the poster in question as evidence. If you don't have any evidence, you have no way to defend yourself. Btw, people have been sued (and lost) after leaving negative comments about businesses on eBay, Yelp, etc. I remember a lawyer on eBay suing someone for libel because of the feedback they left, and a towing company doing the same over negative comments on Yelp (or some site like that). In both cases the libel charges stuck
Doc,come on....libel?...really?
Stew
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I agree with Mel ... Just ignore him and leave things as they are .. the threat of a law suit is absurd .. the costs of him hiring a lawyer and filing are way higher than the possible damages he could hope to gain from a frivolous law suit .. Dont let him get to you .. Hes not really going to do anything about the feedback, because it is true.
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I think I remember the tow company suit as well .. I dont believe there were no damages awarded, were there? The blogger just had to remove his post, right?
So in a far away land of lunacy where Tloc actually sued the worst case scenario here would be that he sues and spends money on lawyers and all that fun stuff just to have the feedback changed to a neutral ..
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Doc,come on....libel?...really?
Stew
Well, that is what he threatened to sue me for. And honestly, I think this is as big of a joke as he does. I altered his feedback at his request that omits the word "many". However, he is selling several fake posters as we speak. I wish there was something more that I could do.
I imagine he has bullied many people into leaving positive feedback. I am proud to be someone who didn't entirely give in to his demands. I don't consider a rewording that is less generalizing a loss, so I doubt he sees himself as victorious right now.
And really, as long as he's unhappy, I'm satisfied. I know I am part of the 1% who left him a negative feedback comment.
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Im glad im not paying for expert advice......Just ignore him........brilliant......
Stew
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Wow. Sell fake garbage and then to add to your own disgrace, you try to bully the customers.
This guy is all class.
I know I am part of the 1% who left him a negative feedback comment.
That is one of saddest things about ebay. Almost all of these "men" have near to perfect feedback.
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Wow. Sell fake garbage and then to add to your own disgrace, you try to bully the customers.
This guy is all class.
That is one of saddest things about ebay. Almost all of these "men" have near to perfect feedback.
I guess now we know why his feedback is so good, huh? Because he threatens to sue you for libel. I'm going to try that. Hey Mel, that Empire poster I just sold you? It's actually a 4x6 picture of the poster.
Don't you dare file a grievance with Paypal or I will have you put away for libel, theft, and impersonating a doctor.
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I don't even know what say about tloce at this point.
You shouldn't worry, he is all talk, I doubt this would hold up in court. APF got your back anyway, this whole thing is ridiculous.
Seriously, I might buy a fake of his, leave negative feedback, then tell him to fuck off if he mentions suing me. What an asshole.
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The guy is a CROOK!!! Everybody in the poster community knows it, and I now understand why he doesn't have negative feedback. By being nice and courteous, by authorizing buyers to return posters and reimbursing them all the costs, including shipping, he guarantees himself positive feedback. And if by accident, one of those buyers leaves him negs, he scares them and threatens to sue them. What a great business plan! Meanwhile, he keeps selling his reprints and reimbursing people as he goes along. Out of 100 reprints sold, 80 will probably go thru (people being unaware that they bought a fake) and 20 will be in contention. So Loce will do his little game and win.
Anthony, your initial negs were great. I'm surprised you changed them. The guy has no grounds whatsoever. I'm really disgusted by his antics.
T
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Thats a good point Zorba,tloce has over bullied the buyer,but Anthony set out to make a stance...its lose-lose..
Stew
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I don't even know what say about tloce at this point.
You shouldn't worry, he is all talk, I doubt this would hold up in court. APF got your back anyway, this whole thing is ridiculous.
Seriously, I might buy a fake of his, leave negative feedback, then tell him to fuck off if he mentions suing me. What an asshole.
I wish I'd worded my initial feedback a little better so I could have remained staunch. It's a pity really. I much prefer my original and dramatic proclamation.
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I wish I'd worded my initial feedback a little better so I could have remained staunch. It's a pity really. I much prefer my original and dramatic proclamation.
LOL .. Can you change it back ? :)
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Doc,come on....libel?...really?
Stew
Yes (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jun/25/disparaging-ebay-comment-sparks-lawsuit/), libel (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3247683/Man-sued-for-libel-over-comments-on-eBay.html). It (http://www.phoenixpersonalinjurylawyersblog.com/2010/04/man-sued-after-leaving-negative-comments-on-ebay.shtml) happens (http://www.walletpop.com/2010/06/30/woman-sued-over-online-review-3-tips-to-avoid-a-lawsuit/) often (http://www.pcworld.com/article/156605/posting_negative_reviews_could_get_you_sued.html) nowadays (http://www.finetunedfinances.com/2009/03/post-on-an-online-review-site-and-get-sued-for-libel/)
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The guy is a CROOK!!! Everybody in the poster community knows it, and I now understand why he doesn't have negative feedback. By being nice and courteous, by authorizing buyers to return posters and reimbursing them all the costs, including shipping, he guarantees himself positive feedback. And if by accident, one of those buyers leaves him negs, he scares them and threatens to sue them. What a great business plan! Meanwhile, he keeps selling his reprints and reimbursing people as he goes along. Out of 100 reprints sold, 80 will probably go thru (people being unaware that they bought a fake) and 20 will be in contention. So Loce will do his little game and win.
Anthony, your initial negs were great. I'm surprised you changed them. The guy has no grounds whatsoever. I'm really disgusted by his antics.
T
The further I get from it, the more I wish I'd left it. I would have but it was Stew's comment about how I can't speak for any product besides the one I bought that made me nervous. I wanted my feedback to be an honest reflection of the transaction, but I only bought one poster.
I'd do it differently if I could start over.
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LOL .. Can you change it back ? :)
I wish. eBay will only let me change it once.
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I wish I'd worded my initial feedback a little better so I could have remained staunch. It's a pity really. I much prefer my original and dramatic proclamation.
Dude, he's only trying to scare you. Don't fall for it.
Why don't you sue him for false advertising?
T
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What other fake posters does this asshole sell? I'm going to buy one.
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Doc,that really isn`t relevant..sorry mate.,.
Stew
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I wish. eBay will only let me change it once.
I think the change you made in your feedback comment is fine. You're only referring to your poster rather than making a sweeping comment about everything he sells.
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Doc,that really isn`t relevant..sorry mate.,.
Stew
How is people being sued for libel for comments they made on eBay (and other online resources) not relevant?
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By the way, TLoce is probably laughing his ass off reading this thread right now. Mel is correct, just stop responding to this dick and get on with your life.
I suggest this become a resolved issue.
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Well,from most of the posts on this thread its essentially...grow some balls and let some one take you to court...sounds dodgy advice to me...
Stew
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Guys, guys, guys... He WILL NOT take him to court. It's all about intimidation, and it's working, unfortunately.
So, can someone tell me what other fakes the idiot sells? I'll leave him negs he'll remember for the rest of his pathetic life.
T
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Well,from most of the posts on this thread its essentially...grow some balls and let some one take you to court...sounds dodgy advice to me...
Stew
So you are saying that he should give in and give Tloc good feedback so that he will stop bullying/threatening law suits and just allow Tloc get away with misrepresenting his product as originals and allow him to continue selling fakes and taking advantage of others that just just dont know any better?
That is precisely the mentality that tloc is preying upon and why he has 100% + feedback .. :'(
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So, can someone tell me what other fakes the idiot sells? I'll leave him negs he'll remember for the rest of his pathetic life.
T
This could be entertaining!
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This could be entertaining!
As entertaining as this thread has been. I'm actually quite surprise that some here believe that Loce would actually sue.
I'll put Holiday on his ass!
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So you are saying that he should give in and give Tloc good feedback so that he will stop bullying/threatening law suits and just allow Tloc get away with misrepresenting his product as originals and allow him to continue selling fakes and taking advantage of others that just just dont know any better?
That is precisely the mentality that tloc is preying upon and why he has 100% + feedback .. :'(
Not at all fallen..most of the advice would seem to to be call his bluff..that is really high risk..im suggesting work it out..my one neg feedback is not going to change anything..
Stew
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As entertaining as this thread has been. I'm actually quite surprise that some here believe that Loce would actually sue.
I'll put Holiday on his ass!
Well some people were also apparently taken in by yesterday's April Fool's posts ;)
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Not at all fallen..most of the advice would seem to to be call his bluff..that is really high risk..im suggesting work it out..my one neg feedback is not going to change anything..
Stew
Well from the threats TLoc is making the only way to "work it out" would be for him to tuck his tail and change his feed back to a glowing review of Tlocs benevolent customer service ... There is no way to work things out with someone like Tloc this is how he does business and will continue to do so until enough people stand up to the threats and leave him the appropriate feedback .. then new buyers will start to see the truth behind who they are doing business with.
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Well from the threats TLoc is making the only way to "work it out" would be for him to tuck his tail and change his feed back to a glowing review of Tlocs benevolent customer service ... There is no way to work things out with someone like Tloc this is how he does business and will continue to do so until enough people stand up to the threats and leave him the appropriate feedback .. then new buyers will start to see the truth behind who they are doing business with.
So why do people keep buying from him?
Stew
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So why do people keep buying from him?
Stew
I suspect that many of his buyers are just naive, uninformed, casual poster purchasers...
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I suspect that many of his buyers are just naive, uninformed, casual poster purchasers...
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Guys, guys, guys... He WILL NOT take him to court. It's all about intimidation, and it's working, unfortunately.
So, can someone tell me what other fakes the idiot sells? I'll leave him negs he'll remember for the rest of his pathetic life.
T
http://shop.ebay.com/tloceposters/m.html?_nkw=black+swan&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313 (http://shop.ebay.com/tloceposters/m.html?_nkw=black+swan&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313)
All single-sided. I don't expect them to be authentic with that in mind.
http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ADVANCE-B-ONE-SHEET-27X41-MINT-1977-/370493096429?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56431c01ed#ht_500wt_1156 (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ADVANCE-B-ONE-SHEET-27X41-MINT-1977-/370493096429?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56431c01ed#ht_500wt_1156)
As Mel pointed out, this one lacks the union logo.
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PLEASE DO NOT BE FOOLED BY AMATEUR WEBSITES OR DEALERS/COLLECTORS WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/Fake-2.jpg)
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I suspect that many of his buyers are just naive, uninformed, casual poster purchasers...
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and now thankfully someone stood up to him and left a negative comment so that others can be warned to stay away from this seller !! :)
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He has completely stopped messaging me, which I find surprising. The last message he sent me was this:
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Perhaps since it was impossible for me to change my feedback any further he gave up. He is stuck with negative feedback forever. Maybe he has decided to drop the charges. I think I will write him a sincere letter of gratitude for having mercy on a confused buyer who just didn't know any better. I fell victim to the lies all around me! God have mercy!
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Anthony-- Kudos to you for keeping the negative mark on his once untarnished record! clap clap It never made sense how this guy continuously maintained his 100% positive feedback. Your case certainly shed light on it-- with other naive buyers unaware that they had bought fakes (again, basing their choice to buy on his stellar feedback).
I think you were right to amend your wording to speak about your poster alone, since that is what feedback is about-- one's individual dealings with a seller. Even if tloc sells 10 authentic posters out of 1000, your initial, blanket statement would still be untrue. That being said-- you did great!
The idea for others to buy his fakes and then leave neg feedback sounds brilliant, too Let the buying begin!
Jeff
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Don't send the poster back. Since he's stated that he may be pursuing legal action, the poster has now become evidence and needs to remain in your possession.
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Don't send the poster back. Since he's stated that he may be pursuing legal action, the poster has now become evidence and needs to remain in your possession.
Great idea. Play his game. Tell him you need proof.
T
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Yeah, I would be calling his bluff right and left. This whole thing is so comical.
Seriously, tell him you want proof with the poster, but you also want proof that he doesn't attend furry conventions too. Then tell him to fuck off.
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Then tell him to fuck off.
Because of this quote, I will start a new topic
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Tom does read the forums, and he will be having a laugh.
Hi Tom.
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/aririchards/Misc%20paper/P3160121.jpg)
PS can anyone find the T-LO song I wrote about him on NS4? I can't.
it was a rewording of that J-LO song, Jenny from the block.
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With a new white insert, you fresh
Nothing phony with us
Make the money
Get the mansion
Bring the Professor with us
Don't be fooled by the Mintys that I got
I'm still, I'm still Tommy from the block
Used to have a little now I have a lot
No matter where I go I know where I came from
(From Rochestor).
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Holy crap, thanks Chris, I searched and searched. HAHA. (me and Tom are like bed1 )
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I hope to see it on the playlist next time I go to a karaoke bar...
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OK, only if your wearing a clean, freshly pressed white tuxedo.
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OK, only if your wearing a clean, freshly pressed white tuxedo.
No doubt! I will finish it off with a white top hat and possibly an ivory-tipped cane...
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nice i am glad to see someone take him down a notch (in the eyes of the uneducated buyer). like everyone else says i would also suggest DO NOT TO RETURN THAT POSTER, it is your only evidence he sold you a fake.
this guy is the biggest joke. i almost bought over $1000 dollars worth of posters from him including several of those minty whites when i first started collecting. i was gonna complete the transaction off of ebay too, so no way to leave feedback. thankfully i read around about his reputation because i thought it was kinda weird he was offering such good "deals".
it was so great to look up one of his items and see the 99.9% rating (even though he doesnt deserve that good of feedback either). we all should buy fakes and leave REAL feedback.
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we all should buy fakes and leave REAL feedback.
I keep telling people we should do that. MOB HIT, MOB HIT, MOB HIT. We'll take 'im out! Probably knock him down to a 99.7 but it'd make me feel good.
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I keep telling people we should do that. MOB HIT, MOB HIT, MOB HIT. We'll take 'im out! Probably knock him down to a 99.7 but it'd make me feel good.
But then we'd all have a bunch of worthless fakes AND we'd get sued to add insult ;)
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watch him be reading this, the next 50 posters he sells are gonna be real.
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But then we'd all have a bunch of worthless fakes AND we'd get sued to add insult ;)
No, no, no, you can't get caught doing organized crime.
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he has a phantasm one sheet marked at $650. hahahaha thats higher than cinemasterpieces!
http://cgi.ebay.com/PHANTASM-MOVIE-POSTER-79-HORROR-CLASSIC-/370458893215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5641121b9f#ht_500wt_1102 (http://cgi.ebay.com/PHANTASM-MOVIE-POSTER-79-HORROR-CLASSIC-/370458893215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5641121b9f#ht_500wt_1102)
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I am really feeling for Disheveledamethyst , for getting rinsed by this douche bag!
What does he have thats cheap and and an undoubted fake. I am seriously considering buying one, then giving him neg feedback.. Anyone else in?
We know how he works, so this shouldn't be be too hard
Thanks
Paul
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I am really feeling for Disheveledamethyst , for getting rinsed by this douche bag!
What does he have thats cheap and and an undoubted fake. I am seriously considering buying one, then giving him neg feedback.. Anyone else in?
We know how he works, so this shouldn't be be too hard
Thanks
Paul
As I mentioned earlier, his Black Swan posters are almost certainly fake. They are all single sided, which it is unlikely the real posters were ever printed. They're $40 each though. http://shop.ebay.com/tloceposters/m.html?_nkw=black+swan&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313
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Mr. Amethyst, a word of advice: unless someone has the authority to coerce an individual to stop his/her practices that are widely disagreeable, or unless the average someone is on a serious mission to stop that person, it’s probably a losing battle. Your revised feedback appears to me that it is acceptable according to Ebay policy, while his feedback left for you is possibly not. On a side note, it is against Ebay policy to work with other members to leave someone negative feedback (and other similar methods) so it's probably not wise to suggest doing that. As previously stated, unless it’s your job or you are on a divine mission, I’d recommend ignoring him and enjoying life. It’s a beautiful day here so I’m gonna pry myself from the computer and enjoy it.
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Mr. Amethyst, a word of advice: unless someone has the authority to coerce an individual to stop his/her practices that are widely disagreeable, or unless the average someone is on a serious mission to stop that person, it’s probably a losing battle. Your revised feedback appears to me that it is acceptable according to Ebay policy, while his feedback left for you is possibly not. On a side note, it is against Ebay policy to work with other members to leave someone negative feedback (and other similar methods) so it's probably not wise to suggest doing that. As previously stated, unless it’s your job or you are on a divine mission, I’d recommend ignoring him and enjoying life. It’s a beautiful day here so I’m gonna pry myself from the computer and enjoy it.
I hear you man, really. This thread has developed more into cracking jokes and idle villainous plotting. The matter is long over and dealt with. If anything else comes of this ordeal it will not be by my suggestion. I will continue linking people to his suspicious auctions though - it's part of protecting others.
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idle villainous plotting
This should really be a sport!
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This should really be a sport!
It is!....Dealers have been playing this sport for a million years.
Maybe its our turn?
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It is!....Dealers have been playing this sport for a million years.
Maybe its our turn?
I believe it is - we just need an appropriate team logo and of course some "freakin' lasers!"
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I believe it is - we just need an appropriate team logo and of course some "freakin' lasers!"
Alright, Gentlemen... How do we kill Superman shady dealers with whom we have had negative experiences?
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3050/65597856.png)
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bumping for new members
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Lols, is this guy still selling his chit?
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Loce and Cinemasterpieces are back in the spot. It's like the old times!!!
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Loce is banging it out more than ever. 30,908 items currently on ebay and still getting ebay to remove negatives or paying people to change their feedback.
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Oh and yesterday i proudly received a message from eggggbert. And YES IT WAS IN ALLL CAPS AND DIDNT MAKE MUCH SENSE BUT IT WAS FUNNY.
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Oh and yesterday i proudly received a message from eggggbert. And YES IT WAS IN ALLL CAPS AND DIDNT MAKE MUCH SENSE BUT IT WAS FUNNY.
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AND HE LOVES ME TOO.
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Oh and yesterday i proudly received a message from eggggbert. And YES IT WAS IN ALLL CAPS AND DIDNT MAKE MUCH SENSE BUT IT WAS FUNNY.
If you could makes heads or tails of it, what did Eggy have to say? hmmm.gif
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Lol he wasnt mad....unfortunately. That would have made it forum worthy. He wanted me to buy something. I asked for actual pictures of it. He was insisting I should just buy it and now he would include a free bootleg version. (Wanted ten for the bootleg originally)
I made the point to him that it would be much easier to send a couple photosto me then to go through the hassle of sending me the posters. But he would rather just send them and pay for return shipping if I wasnt satisfied. Sounds strange to me because all he needed to do was snap a couple pictures. He is probably counting on me not knowing an original from a bootleg and/or me never following up to send them back. Of course he goes off when someone tries to tell him he isnt selling a legit poster. So I dont buy it if I cant see it. I was figuring he'd send me pics of a bootleg anyways. He was stuck on how the coloring would be correct on his original rather than the cropping which is more important. It is possible he has two different quality bootlegs and thats why he was assuring me the color was good.
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What a tool.
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why buy anything from him? legit or not?
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why buy anything from him? legit or not?
I never planned on buying anything. I wanted real pictures of a poster so I could have some proof it wasnt legit.
I cant help but think he is one of those guys that always has a bit of drool on his chin.
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ahhhhh good luck. He might just be onto you and your dastardly plan.
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ahhhhh good luck. He might just be onto you and your dastardly plan.
My thoughts too
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ahhhhh good luck. He might just be onto you and your dastardly plan.
I will try again later today. :)
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I never planned on buying anything. I wanted real pictures of a poster so I could have some proof it wasnt legit.
You know what would be much more useful since everybody already knows his shit is fake? If you could lure him to the forum so we can have fun with him. I miss him tremendously.
T
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I cant help but think he is one of those guys that always has a bit of drool on his chin.
Y'mean like Rich?
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/LH2man/Funnees/gifsFav/drooling.gif~original) whip