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Common Poster Subjects => Authentication => Topic started by: eatbrie on December 19, 2009, 02:22:51 PM
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What better way to start this thread than with Jeannie's authentication website...
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/Movie%20Poster%20Authenticating.html (http://movieposterauthenticating.com/Movie%20Poster%20Authenticating.html)
Thierry
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MPA belongs to everyone and was created to be so.
(I just rule it with an iron fist. ;D )
There's a new section that will be created on MPA that will provide alerts to reproductions which we have not been able to do a full authentication on. There are known discussions of repros, but when side-by-side comparisons cannot be done and instead the information relies on a third-party source, that poster under scrutiny will be posted in this new section.
This new section is being created because I realize that people want to see what has been discovered and what conclusions have been reached even when a complete authentication has not been done yet or, for whatever reason, some missing piece of information keeps an authentication from being publishable. There are a few that have been sitting in MPA under wraps because certain issues could not be resolved to make the information an authentication that could be published on MPA. This section is still being worked out.
Thanks,
Jeannie
movieposterauthenticating.com (http://movieposterauthenticating.com)
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sounds like a useful new section you are adding.
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Bumping up the MPA thread so others who haven't looked or were not aware, could take a view.
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Is this site now abandoned? That is a shame.
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Maybe Jeannie will let someone take over (least until she has time/interest again)
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That was one of the first meaningful sites I ran into. Though I only had I could authenticate there, reading through some of the other authentications helped me with an understanding of things.
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And Jeannie's a good egg, to boot, too. She was always willing to help and discuss. thumbup
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Too bad she's too busy with her Stargate SG1 authentication site ;)
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Maybe she could hand it over the info/photos to Mel who already has a budding authentication section on his site...
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Maybe she could hand it over the info/photos to Mel who already has a budding authentication section on his site...
I link to that site and that's it.
The sites are very different and she would never hand them over anyway. Jeannie would say I'm an amateur. I would say her standards are unrealistic and excessively formal and contributed to MPA going into its faded state.
IMHO authentications should be tailored to newbies, with minimal text, and maximum pics. MPA is the opposite.
Also MPA should not have been built in Wordpress. The authentications themselves are excellent but obscured on the site.
Not trying to be overly negative and it's not an ego thing. I think MPA was too ambitious - they initially were discussing 100+ authentications - and they just got burned out trying too much and with unrealistic scholarly standards. Authentications are not rocket science, after all.
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Too bad she's too busy with her Stargate SG1 authentication site ;)
Maybe she will come back one day and revamp her great site with the help of the initial authenticators. It's hard to say.
Never say never, right, Chris? ;)
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Rich blew it when he posted a certain pic of her, chased her off and out of Poster World forever....
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the dreaded white bikini?
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IMHO authentications should be tailored to newbies, with minimal text, and maximum pics. MPA is the opposite.
Sorry. Like I said before, it was one of the first sites I ran into and it is NOT newbie difficult at all. Quite the opposite, reading those authentications contributed to the cheap part of the never ending poster education.
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the authentications were done and submitted, I don't recall Jeannie saying they had to be text heavy, mine sure wasn't. 3 images and some writings on the differences. I haven't read any of them for a LONG time, so I forget now.
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Sorry. Like I said before, it was one of the first sites I ran into and it is NOT newbie difficult at all. Quite the opposite, reading those authentications contributed to the cheap part of the never ending poster education.
Exactly, Zorba. Well said.
Text is crucial in explaining what one (especially a newbie) should be looking for in the images provided, especially if there are subtleties or minor variations that may be overlooked in pictures alone. ;)
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So I took an hour and a half tonight to build a new Spiderman authentication on MPC (http://moviepostercollectors.com/MPC_Authentication_Spiderman.html). As you can see, my version uses minimal text, large pictures, and gets straight to the crucial difference between originals and bootlegs: "IS THE REVERSE WHITER/LIGHTER THAN THE FRONT." Everything else - background of poster, other differentiating features - is extraneous. You can read this authentication in three minutes and have the essential knowledge to beat the poster fraudsters.
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MPC-Spider.jpg)
By contrast, the MPA version (http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/spider-man/spiderman-coming-2002-wtc/) is commendably comprehensive and scholarly but is very texty, uses small pics (which can be enlarged), and has more background and extraneous information than most people need. After reading it, you might not realize that the key difference is the whiter/lighter reverse. The design is also less than ideal because the right and left of the screen are filled with statistics and links to other authentications (and blank space lower down the page).
(http://www.posternirvana.com/0DNE/MPA-Spider.jpg)
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Nice job, Mel. thumbup
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That'll work until it doesn't...
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Nice job, Mel. thumbup
Yes he did. Never said there was anythiing wrong with his. Mel does do some good work and I would like to see him do as many as possible. Keep em coming.
The regular Pulp Fiction one seems broken. It links back to the thread here and the pics dont show up anymore. Maybe just on my pc?
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I appreciate the simplicity of Mel's approach and do prefer it. But, I would like to have all of the available info. We never know if we may run across a framed poster and the seller refuses to pull it for photos or something of that nature. So having a few more authentication photos and a couple sentences about "the cab" being cropped out or the lack of the word "sale" on the fakes could be even more helpful in the long run.
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I kind of miss the antics of the bipolar dr. nuckinfuts evilwoman........whatever happened to her? :-*
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If that won't raise her from the dead, nothing will!
jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop
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If that won't raise her from the dead, nothing will!
jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop jawdrop
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;D
Chris, what did you say about old beefs and cuts of meat?
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Was Jeannie that pretty woman in the snow with the wolf in CO?
Big into Star Wars?
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Chris, what did you say about old beefs and cuts of meat?
I forgot to add that you need some fresh A1 or HP sauce as well ;)
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That'll work until it doesn't...
Yes, even though there are boatloads of cheap Spiderman reprints already out there and even though true originals only sell for $75 or so, perhaps some not-very-bright bootlegger will spend mucho time, energy, and money to create perfect double-sided repros with a lighter/whiter reverse - which no bootlegger has ever done before - and eke out a tiny profit before being caught.
Of course, the Loch Ness monster could rise from the Potomac tomorrow....
(http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv275/Forty_Candles/2012/Loch-ness.jpg)
Was Jeannie that pretty woman in the snow with the wolf in CO? Big into Star Wars?
Somehow Jeannie managed to watch Star Wars Revenge of the Sith 19 (NINETEEN) times but never managed to find a couple of hours to put together the much-promised Star Wars prequels authentication (e.g. this version is watermarked, this version is not....)
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Yes, even though there are boatloads of cheap Spiderman reprints already out there and even though true originals only sell for $75 or so, perhaps some not-very-bright bootlegger will spend mucho time, energy, and money to create perfect double-sided repros with a lighter/whiter reverse - which no bootlegger has ever done before - and eke out a tiny profit before being caught.
Of course, the Loch Ness monster could rise from the Potomac tomorrow....
It was more a comment on your general approach and how things do change over time - there was a time when no one would have thought that someone would have created a bootleg The Thing, but they did. I believe (and hopefully he can drop in and comment) that part of the issues that Dan had was that reprinters/bootleggers were using his info to make better fakes.
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Was Jeannie that pretty woman in the snow with the wolf in CO?
Big into Star Wars?
That was her, Ted! A smart, attractive and busy doctor, who also took the time to set up MPA, with fellow members contributing. sm1
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Ted, were you going to pin this thread, too? thumbup
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Ted, were you going to pin this thread, too? thumbup
Aside from a link to the site itself, this thread has been kaput since 12/09, when T started it.
On the other hand(s), Dan and Mel are both here and happening.
Does anyone else think it should be pinned?
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This is a reminder that MPA has good authentications for several inserts and half sheets:
Return of The Jedi insert:
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi/return-of-the-jedi-style-b-insert/
Apocalypse Now insert:
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/apocalypse-now/apocalypse-now-insert/
Enforcer half sheet:
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/enforcer/enforcer-the-half-sheet/
Empire Strikes Back insert:
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/star-wars-empire-strikes-back/empire-strikes-back-style-b-insert/
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Is Jeannie back in the hobby? Somebody spruced up MPA a couple of weeks ago but no new authentications:
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/
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Jeannie is an alcoholic. She went from collecting posters to collecting wine. She has become quite the wine connaisseur.
Respect.
T
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It could have been Jason
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Jeannie is an alcoholic. She went from collecting posters to collecting wine. She has become quite the wine connaisseur.
Respect.
T
Poor thing. ;D verydrunk.gif
Even so, her site (http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/ ) and this thread both deserve a bump.gif.
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I recently acquired a copy of The Dark Knight, "Why So Serious" poster from a fellow APF member. Even though I knew it was 100% legit, it was great to be able to reference Jeannie's authentication of this poster, to see what the differences were from the double sided reproductions that are out there. thumbsup.gif
http://movieposterauthenticating.com/wordpress/the-dark-knight/the-dark-knight-style-b/
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4208/35455319272_004c8ddf0a_z.jpg)
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MPA belongs to everyone and was created to be so.
(I just rule it with an iron fist. ;D )
There's a new section that will be created on MPA that will provide alerts to reproductions which we have not been able to do a full authentication on. There are known discussions of repros, but when side-by-side comparisons cannot be done and instead the information relies on a third-party source, that poster under scrutiny will be posted in this new section.
This new section is being created because I realize that people want to see what has been discovered and what conclusions have been reached even when a complete authentication has not been done yet or, for whatever reason, some missing piece of information keeps an authentication from being publishable. There are a few that have been sitting in MPA under wraps because certain issues could not be resolved to make the information an authentication that could be published on MPA. This section is still being worked out.
Thanks,
Jeannie
http://movieposterauthenticating.com
Just a little bump for anyone who might not know about Jeannie's site. Lots of great authentication info that she gathered and put together, too. thumbsup.gif