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Movie Posters => Movie Posters - Latest Acquisitions => Topic started by: guest4955 on January 03, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
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Alright, I'm an attention aficionado, get to start yet another month!
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This poster sucks (!) some of the forum dweebs are thinking....
Naw, Jeff Bezos likes it - see Current Releases Chat - and, overanalyzing it, it represents the steep, uncertain path they're taking against the Nixon Administration.
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Post%20The_zpsmis7n8b9.jpg)
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This poster sucks (!) everybody is thinking....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Blue%20Crusha_zpsxgb8od9c.jpg)
Naw, it's really cool, blue motif/Blue Crush!
No, it really does suck, no good excuse....
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I bought The Post and foolishly perused the seller's other 5,000 posters (!) and picked out these three MPs that struck my fancy:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Dark%20Tower_zpsps6p26x4.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Now%20You%20See%20Me%202_zpstqok2ef3.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Austin%20Powers%203%20-%20Goldmember_zpslrhala4y.jpg)
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Goldmember is nice.
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(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/back_to_the_future_ii_delorean_style_teaser_NG03453_B_zpsyrivj45f.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Memoirs%20of%20a%20Geisha_zps8yxcxhgg.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Ballets%20Russes_zps1vcxmxgn.jpg)
Always wanted to be a surfer, but was landlocked several hours from pitiful East Coast waves....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Step%20Into%20Liquid_zpsu7n6tjwu.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Oscars%202001_zpsv92xgpus.jpg)
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Goldmember is nice.
Thanks, "recalled" for litigation pressure (clearly copied FYEO), but obviously they are plentiful.
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Didn't know it was recalled...! Was it really?
After all, as per another thread, there had already been by then a number of other 'through the legs' posters.
I know a Freddie Nightmare poster was recalled because it used the gun barrel theme, the gun barrel being copyrighted by then I believe.
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Didn't know it was recalled...! Was it really?
After all, as per another thread, there had already been by then a number of other 'through the legs' posters.
I know a Freddie Nightmare poster was recalled because it used the gun barrel theme, the gun barrel being copyrighted by then I believe.
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-06%20at%201.33.45%20PM_zpsjoo3jf0v.jpg)
http://moviepostercollectors.guide/MPC_Showcase_Recalled.html (http://moviepostercollectors.guide/MPC_Showcase_Recalled.html)
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Had this arrive shortly after the new Year.
It's a Yugoslavian poster, measuring 24x33, for the 1974 Yugoslavian-produced horror film, Pogled iz potkrovlija (aka View From the Loft). The film looks to have been shot in English and then dubbed, as most of the actors appear to be American or British (including actress Jennie Linden).
The artwork, stark and vivid, gives a real sense of terror and that's what caught my eye. The film might be a real dog, (or not) but I think the poster works well. And tho a foreign poster, as can be seen, it's entirely in English. Also the paper is a thicker paper stock, closer to what a US insert might have been printed on, rather than a OS.
(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12664.0;attach=8084;image)
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(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-01-06%20at%201.33.45%20PM_zpsjoo3jf0v.jpg)
http://moviepostercollectors.guide/MPC_Showcase_Recalled.html (http://moviepostercollectors.guide/MPC_Showcase_Recalled.html)
Ok. And yet it was still called Goldmember...!?
So what precisely was the objection, and the outcome?
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Congrats Jeff, that's a great poster for View From the Loft. I have never seen it before (nor have I ever heard of the movie either), but it is quite striking.
Meanwhile, I just got this small (17 X 22) French poster by the great Boris Grinsson for Plague of the Zombies, a fun Hammer film from 1966. Not a great find, but I've been meaning to get this one for a while, as I'm a bit of a Hammer completist.
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Nice pickup there, Ben. Grinsson, large are small, are always a nice find. thumbsup.gif
Re: The Loft poster... I know nothing of the film, nor have I ever seen a poster for it before, this one, or any other. While the artwork is not that finessed or refined, something about it reminded me of the Belgian poster art done for The Haunting (its artistic style). In any case, if a poster's imagery or artwork grabs a potential movie viewer, then the poster has done its job.
As I mentioned before.. the movie might be a real POS, but this poster alone has me curious about it, in the least case.
And when it comes to movie posters, that's all that matters. It has succeeded.
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Very Nice pick up guys!! Love the Loft poster and Plague of the Zombie pick ups! Very nice guys!!
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Here you go a few recent quads
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Very Nice pick up guys!! Love the Loft poster and Plague of the Zombie pick ups! Very nice guys!!
I figured that poster might be kind of up your alley, Mike. >:D
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Couple more quads that I got this month.
been after this one for ages as it kept escaping my clutches, Finally I have it (not the best of copies but will do for now).
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/96/07/e8/9607e870e7d82ad3aca3576742ac46d0.jpg)
two anime posters
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fe/cd/b2/fecdb2e1f0f9fd11458e222879bcee7d.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e3/73/18/e37318a0392476b8f02d0f4a5a5b8f6c.jpg)
And the two Tom Finland posters that I finally got. In person the printing on these is quite amazing - beautiful grain in the artwork that doesn't come come across in the images but it really is surperb.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/32/8b/9a/328b9ad4dad805d140b71b21e20c9517.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/70/ff/eb/70ffeb39616905b45eca4e2dff3ca65c.jpg)
Last one for now - same as US version.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c7/a5/ae/c7a5ae2af69f595ae6d55547ab232b54.jpg)
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(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c7/a5/ae/c7a5ae2af69f595ae6d55547ab232b54.jpg)
Funny Dunkirk and Darkest Hour - 100% British subject areas - are hits in the US and The Post - freedom of press in US - is playing in UK.
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Nothing too exceptional here, except poster is B&W and 40yo Jessica Chastain is playing a 26yo (movie does cover the next decade though):
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Mollys%20Game_zpsvoemnfbz.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu4UPet8Nyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu4UPet8Nyc)
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Just got these in the mail last week!
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F6%2F0%2F4%2F2%2F16042968%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F5%2F3%2F8%2F8%2F15388399%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F6%2F0%2F3%2F6%2F16036619%5D%2Csizedata%5B850x600%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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Great looking pickups, there, Mike. >:D devil 2 clap clap
And really like the Macabre.
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I love the Macabre poster as well. I think I may get it linenbacked eventually..
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bus stop
(https://scontent.flas1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26734057_1797739103634803_1209093257211803699_n.jpg?oh=8d960fe01b41dd4382f520624f4928f5&oe=5AFF27F8)
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Nice V there, Rich.
Portman looks a bit doggish/rough in the image. Was this done on purpose? Any idea?
Or is it just her "natural" beauty shining thru? 8)
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Nice V there, Rich.
Portman looks a bit doggish/rough in the image. Was this done on purpose? Any idea?
Or is it just her "natural" beauty shining thru? 8)
thanks.. and no idea.
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Like the V.
Just in time for the Winter Olympics:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Downhill%20Racer%201969%20US%201S%20SSF_zpsdyg75b9y.jpeg)
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Wow, Mike, looking at the artwork on this poster, up close, the zombie creature really did a number on the right side of the naked damsel's face.
Uber creepy looking creature, too. >:D
(https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F6%2F0%2F4%2F2%2F16042968%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D)
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a few that have landed on my doorstep recently
Wonder Woman - V2 & V3 - these were tough to find & then like buses 2 sets showed up at the same time & then nothing since!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4562/37611723644_10c9c4b205_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZiBV4S)Wonder Woman - V2 (https://flic.kr/p/ZiBV4S) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4531/37611724634_989fcbc173_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZiBVmW)Wonder Woman - V3 (https://flic.kr/p/ZiBVmW) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Ferrari: Race to Immortality - big F1 fan so choked to have secured these 2
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4565/24778310638_22ad1bfba0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DKzjuo)Ferrari: Race to Immortality (https://flic.kr/p/DKzjuo) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4573/24778312918_a5f2ccae6b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DKzkaG)Ferrari 312B (https://flic.kr/p/DKzkaG) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Coco - nice poster for my Pixar collection
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4578/24778312508_23854b12a6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DKzk3C)Coco - V2 (https://flic.kr/p/DKzk3C) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Perfect Blue - one of my fav animie posters of the year for a great film
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4592/24290232577_b47b5ec8b5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/D1rMTp)Perfect Blue - 2017 Re-Release (https://flic.kr/p/D1rMTp) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
couple of re-releases
Pulp fiction - i keep missing out on the original so this will have to do for the moment
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4729/39570530701_ef688f0303_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23hHjak)Pulp Fiction - 20th Anniversary Re-Release (https://flic.kr/p/23hHjak) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Hellraiser - this took some getting! v.few released & i had to do some serious arm twisting thumbsup.gif
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/38674369641_14b900950d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21VwfGz)Hellraiser - 2017 Re-Release (https://flic.kr/p/21VwfGz) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
A Matter of Life & Death - another classic!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4551/26898376029_c949e9c77d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GYVd4X)A Matter of Life & Death - 2017 Re-Release (https://flic.kr/p/GYVd4X) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
A couple of oldies
Goliath & the Vampires - i know nothing about the film but love the art - the photo doesnt do it justice!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/24778314218_9f8c24e3b2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DKzky7)Goliath & the Vampires (https://flic.kr/p/DKzky7) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Oscar Wilde - ive always loved this poster - the colours are so vivid & thanks to Vertigo posters having a 40% off sale prior to Xmas the price was just too good not too buy!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4534/27109724019_8fc4fb569b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HiAqsP)Oscar Wilde (https://flic.kr/p/HiAqsP) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Escape From New York - sometimes u just get lucky with ebay. It happened with my Brazil quad a couple of years ago & recently i managed to snag this , in near perfect condition & inc P&P, for just shy of £20 thumbsup.gif Good start to the year!!!!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4715/38927582044_e396c25d0e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22iU2VE)Escape From New York (https://flic.kr/p/22iU2VE) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
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Escape From New York - sometimes u just get lucky with ebay. It happened with my Brazil quad a couple of years ago & recently i managed to snag this , in near perfect condition & inc P&P, for just shy of £20 thumbsup.gif Good start to the year!!!!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4715/38927582044_e396c25d0e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22iU2VE)Escape From New York (https://flic.kr/p/22iU2VE) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
Lucky. I've been trying to find one that I could afford in a long time. Alas, no luck.
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Cracking bunch there sir.
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Goliath & the Vampires... neat looking art for sure, and the Wilde art really pops, too!
Nice group all the way around. thumbup
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Hellraiser - this took some getting! v.few released & i had to do some serious arm twisting thumbsup.gif
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4540/38674369641_14b900950d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21VwfGz)Hellraiser - 2017 Re-Release (https://flic.kr/p/21VwfGz) by michael reeve (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150857735@N03/), on Flickr
This Hellraiser is awesome, congrats on getting it Mike. Been after it two for ages and no can find, bit like that other gem Wages of Fear, Two highest on my wants list if you happen to seen another.
I got a copy of the Perfect Blue too but it arrived punctured all across the middle so its going back.
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Couple of older quads but recent additions to my collections. Long time wants.
The Iron Giant - signature edition. Do any quad experts know if this one is from the first release or the rerelease of the film when it was recut?
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7e/28/42/7e284200133a5824576067e40077dac9.jpg)
Bertolucci's The Conformist
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3d/b9/8a/3db98a2ac8cf1935ceb2b53473721aaa.jpg)
And been after this for a copy of years to add to my Park Circus collection, The Muppet Christmas Carol
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8a/c9/e0/8ac9e0b3123eb7dc987759eb6543d3d7.jpg)
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Iron Giant is from the rerelease.
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Couple of older quads but recent additions to my collections. Long time wants.
The Iron Giant - signature edition. Do any quad experts know if this one is from the first release or the rerelease of the film when it was recut?
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7e/28/42/7e284200133a5824576067e40077dac9.jpg)
I think the other clue indicating that this quad is for a later RR is the wording calling the movie the "signature edition."
'Tis a nice looking poster, regardless. thumbsup.gif
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Had this come a couple days ago.
The Thai poster for Bloodstone: Subspecies II (1993), with art done by the very talented Tongdee Panumas.
One of the many films done by producer Charles Band and his company, Full Moon Entertainment. We actually screened the dailies/rushes for this flick as it was being filmed. Full Moon was not far from the production facility I worked at, at the time, and they would come down and rent our screening room to watch each prior day's footage. So this poster rekindles that memory, plus, I think Tondee did an amazing job on the artwork, too.
(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12664.0;attach=8136;image)
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Sweet poster Jeff!! I was luck to pick one of those up 2 years ago. Nice find!
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I'm in good company then. devil 2 >:D
Thanks, Mike.
I know another member also either posted this poster, or maybe it was used as his avatar. I dont recall which, at the moment. I do know when I first saw it, it really grabbed my eye.
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that's a pretty cool poster Jeffe. I may have to find one myself
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Thanks, Rich.
I also had this one arrive today.. another Thai poster for the Toho flick, Godzilla vs. Biollante (1989). The artwork is a redrawn version, based on that done for Japan by Noriyoshi Ohrai. I don't know who the Thai artist is (more sherlocking needed), but, imho, is really a vivid and accurate redo of Ohrai's work, with some changed art elements, most noticeably to parts of the creature to the left of Godzilla's head and the added, running crowd on the lower left corner.
(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12664.0;attach=8142;image)
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Thanks, Rich.
I also had this one arrive today.. another Thai poster for the Toho flick, Godzilla vs. Biollante (1989). The artwork is a redrawn version, based on that done for Japan by Noriyoshi Ohrai. I don't know who the Thai artist is (more sherlocking needed), but, imho, is really a vivid and accurate redo of Ohrai's work, with some changed art elements, most noticeably to parts of the creature to the left of Godzilla's head and the added, running crowd on the lower left corner.
I have that JP poster
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I have that JP poster
Nice.
I looked on HA and a couple other auction sites and I haven't found this Thai version for sale before.
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I have been watching one of those on ebay for a while now. Nice pick-up Jeff! still for sale here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Godzilla-vs-Biollante-original-Thai-Poster-Japanese-Gojira-Biorante-TOHO-movie/182268751777?hash=item2a70106fa1:g:YVMAAOSwFV9XzSvp
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Just received this unrestored half-sheet for Not Of This Earth in the mail. Even though I already have the OS for that movie and despite the fact that I usually do not collect half-sheet posters, I wanted this particular example because I always felt that this format is better suited to the artwork. So I'm happy to have finally gotten my hands on it.
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^ I agree. That's a great image as a half sheet.
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Yup, the half sheet is the one to have on that. Congrats!
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I have been watching one of those on ebay for a while now. Nice pick-up Jeff! still for sale here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Godzilla-vs-Biollante-original-Thai-Poster-Japanese-Gojira-Biorante-TOHO-movie/182268751777?hash=item2a70106fa1:g:YVMAAOSwFV9XzSvp
Likely have to find them from Thai sellers for the most part.
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Couple of older quads but recent additions to my collections. Long time wants.
The Iron Giant - signature edition. Do any quad experts know if this one is from the first release or the rerelease of the film when it was recut?
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/7e/28/42/7e284200133a5824576067e40077dac9.jpg)
Good news, the Iron Giant has a substantial role in Ready Player One. The book used a Japanese robot but the legal rights were hopelessly disputed so the RP1 producers liceensed IG.
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Went 0-5 on HA tonight. After shedding some croc tears, relieved the pain by buying....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600_zpswrwn8duy.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/s-l1600-2_zpsrs27yg5h.jpg~original)
ToddFiertag, eBay
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It’s hard to win something at HA these days. Everything goes for way more than what it’s worth.
T
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Likely have to find them from Thai sellers for the most part.
Indeed, and considering we talked about Thai sellers and possibly fake posters or unreliable sellers, I wonder what is your seller ?
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It’s hard to win something at HA these days. Everything goes for way more than what it’s worth.
T
Without getting into the whole "it's worth what someone will pay for it" argument, this is what makes Emovie such a great choice for so many.
95% of what Emovie sold last week went for less than $100, whereas in Heritage's weekly auction the average sale price has gradually increased to the $100 level.
Can't remember the last time I saw something in the HA weekly and thought "Dang, I would have paid more than that".
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Without getting into the whole "it's worth what someone will pay for it" argument, this is what makes Emovie such a great choice for so many.
95% of what Emovie sold last week went for less than $100, whereas in Heritage's weekly auction the average sale price has gradually increased to the $100 level.
Can't remember the last time I saw something in the HA weekly and thought "Dang, I would have paid more than that".
I agree. Part of the reason is the buyer's premium that increases cost by at least $20. It makes no sense to bid on a $20 poster when the final bill will be $40 higher. For example, I won a set of lobbies for $34 last year The final bill was just under $70 with BP and shipping. It isn't realistic to purchase multiple items to keep shipping costs down because the number of lots is much smaller.
For those reasons, I generally will not bid at HA on anything under $200.
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For those reasons, I generally will not bid at HA on anything under $200.
I heard that before. Am I correct by saying that if a poster ends at $100, the seller gets less than $65? Like 35% less? I understand the seller doesn't pay the buyer's premium, but the final price is what someone is willing to pay for the item, so the seller get 35% less, vs 28% with Bruce. 35% seems outrageous to me. More than a third. So HA may sell for more, but they also pocket more. Honestly, if I was going to sell my collection, I don't know who I would turn to.
T
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I heard that before. Am I correct by saying that if a poster ends at $100, the seller gets less than $65? Like 35% less? I understand the seller doesn't pay the buyer's premium, but the final price is what someone is willing to pay for the item, so the seller get 35% less, vs 28% with Bruce. 35% seems outrageous to me. More than a third. So HA may sell for more, but they also pocket more. Honestly, if I was going to sell my collection, I don't know who I would turn to.
T
It may not be a single answer. Bruce has never sold a poster for over $100k, so that Frankie 6 sheet hiding in your closet might do best for you at HA. The $50-200 posters will do well at emovieposter. The under $10 stuff might not be worth the shipping costs to any dealer.
Everybody wants that Frankie. Nobody wants that Ishtar 1-sh.
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Right, but I was talking to Matt about that Casablanca poster he sold for $107,000 a few months ago, and I was taken aback by what Heritage took for selling the poster. You may be right by saying that Bruce would have not got $100k for it (although we'll never know), but pocketing $30k+ for selling a $100k poster is just obscene to me. Bruce's 15%, ethically speaking, sounds much better. Nothing to do with Grey, who's a great guy. His company sets the rules.
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Right, but I was talking to Matt about that Casablanca poster he sold for $107,000 a few months ago, and I was taken aback by what Heritage took for selling the poster. You may be right by saying that Bruce would have not got $100k for it (although we'll never know), but pocketing $30k+ for selling a $100k poster is just obscene to me. Bruce's 15%, ethically speaking, sounds much better. Nothing to do with Grey, who's a great guy. His company sets the rules.
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Easiest way to find out is to go ahead and send Bruce a $100K poster and see how much he gets for it.
Lower commissions always sound better (hey I think it should be 5-10% at that level), but the reality of course is that very few items can command those prices. HA broke the $100K barrier I think something like 10 times last year, it's a small % of overall items, but there is no doubt that they market EVERYWHERE. I see Heritage ads all over the net, they are doing tons to grow the entire market and are obviously benefiting from it.
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I heard that before. Am I correct by saying that if a poster ends at $100, the seller gets less than $65? Like 35% less? I understand the seller doesn't pay the buyer's premium, but the final price is what someone is willing to pay for the item, so the seller get 35% less, vs 28% with Bruce. 35% seems outrageous to me. More than a third. So HA may sell for more, but they also pocket more. Honestly, if I was going to sell my collection, I don't know who I would turn to.
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Realistically, while lots of auctions would fight to get to auction your $500 and up stuff, who can auction a really high percentage of your collection, the $5 to $50 stuff? There are a few places you could consign it to who would take 50 or 100 years to auction it all. You could sell it for cash, but you would get pennies on the dollar.
And I won't spend the rest of my life taking low value consignments, and the day I announce that all consignments must have a realistic minimum of $30 or more, there will be a lot of people saying, "I wish I had consigned before", because the alternatives are as I outlined above.
And you might do an "apples to apples and oranges to oranges" comparison of what different auctions get for the same items. Even taking into account that you never know for sure what sales are real, it still can be a real eye-opening experience.
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1) I'm getting beat in the "live auction," and I ain't hanging around for them. I guess HA was smart to switch to that a while back for its weekly auctions.
2) I suspected that HA lost money selling "second tier" MPs on eBay, probably to entice bidders to HA auctions. They terminated that in the last three years.
3) I also assume that they don't make much money on the weekly auctions, just keep buyers around for the Signature Auctions, which generate $2.5 mill each (um, as I vaguely recall).
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Undoubtedly Heritage spends money on marketing: glossy catalogs, internet display advertising, etc.
But another element that I think might come into play is that the auction items for the Signature Auctions are published far in advance (in the print catalogs, but also online where you can add to your tracked items well in advance of the auction).
A while back Bruce started publishing the auction previews for major auctions around a week or two in advance (which is much appreciated!), but it is still much less lead time compared to HA for prospective bidders to discover high-dollar items.
My thinking is that for the really high-dollar items you are talking about a very small pool of potential bidders. So as a consigner you'd want to be damn sure those bidders show up on auction day. If one of those potential high-dollar bidders isn't aware and isn't around to be an underbidder, you could have a significantly deflated result.
Are the people who have >$100k to bid on posters refreshing the auction sites every week to look for new stuff? Or do they count on flipping through the catalogs weeks in advance?
Note that I am a happy customer of both emovieposter and HA, and I was happy with an emovieposter consignment I made in the past (including one $1k result which I believe was an all-time high for that particular item).
I admit that I have no actual knowledge of the habits or mindsets of people who bid hundreds of thousands on posters, and am just speculating.
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Undoubtedly Heritage spends money on marketing: glossy catalogs, internet display advertising, etc.
But another element that I think might come into play is that the auction items for the Signature Auctions are published far in advance (in the print catalogs, but also online where you can add to your tracked items well in advance of the auction).
A while back Bruce started publishing the auction previews for major auctions around a week or two in advance (which is much appreciated!), but it is still much less lead time compared to HA for prospective bidders to discover high-dollar items.
My thinking is that for the really high-dollar items you are talking about a very small pool of potential bidders. So as a consigner you'd want to be damn sure those bidders show up on auction day. If one of those potential high-dollar bidders isn't aware and isn't around to be an underbidder, you could have a significantly deflated result.
Are the people who have >$100k to bid on posters refreshing the auction sites every week to look for new stuff? Or do they count on flipping through the catalogs weeks in advance?
Note that I am a happy customer of both emovieposter and HA, and I was happy with an emovieposter consignment I made in the past (including one $1k result which I believe was an all-time high for that particular item).
I admit that I have no actual knowledge of the habits or mindsets of people who bid hundreds of thousands on posters, and am just speculating.
Well said and said well!
BTW randomly checked inflation-adjusted (2017):
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/EMP_zps5z23hmn2.jpg)
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3) I also assume that they don't make much money on the weekly auctions, just keep buyers around for the Signature Auctions, which generate $2.5 mill each (um, as I vaguely recall).
I too was wondering if in fact the weekly auctions was to shore up the Sig auctions' attendance... Who knows?
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Easiest way to find out is to go ahead and send Bruce a $100K poster and see how much he gets for it.
Lower commissions always sound better (hey I think it should be 5-10% at that level), but the reality of course is that very few items can command those prices. HA broke the $100K barrier I think something like 10 times last year, it's a small % of overall items, but there is no doubt that they market EVERYWHERE. I see Heritage ads all over the net, they are doing tons to grow the entire market and are obviously benefiting from it.
Sean, any idea how HA does on average, in their weekly auctions?
I would assume that they do quite well, for the most part?
i feel the potential of a new thread coming on, too, so that all this great discussion isnt lost (forgotten about) once the Jan 2018 Acquisitions thread comes to a close. :)
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Well said and said well!
BTW randomly checked inflation-adjusted (2017):
Overall, I think adjusting posters for inflation is not realistic. The poster market has been so volatile. It gets affected by the overall economy, age of the collectors and trends in the films themselves. I believe all those factors will drown out inflation effects.
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Sean, any idea how HA does on average, in their weekly auctions?
I would assume that they do quite well, for the most part?
They did almost $43,000 on 452 items last week (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=161803&ic=Items-ClosedAuctions-Closed-BrowseAuctionInfo-071713 (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=161803&ic=Items-ClosedAuctions-Closed-BrowseAuctionInfo-071713)). Not sure what their average is, but it seems the few times I have checked it's always in that $40-50K range. I know they post it the week after the auction and thought it might be somewhere else on the site, but don't see it right now.
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They did almost $43,000 on 452 items last week (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=161803&ic=Items-ClosedAuctions-Closed-BrowseAuctionInfo-071713 (https://movieposters.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=161803&ic=Items-ClosedAuctions-Closed-BrowseAuctionInfo-071713)). Not sure what their average is, but it seems the few times I have checked it's always in that $40-50K range. I know they post it the week after the auction and thought it might be somewhere else on the site, but don't see it right now.
That sure isn't peanuts (to me anyhow). Simple math then shows a nice profit each and every month, in the $160K'ish+ range. clap clap
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Indeed, and considering we talked about Thai sellers and possibly fake posters or unreliable sellers, I wonder what is your seller ?
It was a seller here in the US.
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Overall, I think adjusting posters for inflation is not realistic. The poster market has been so volatile. It gets affected by the overall economy, age of the collectors and trends in the films themselves. I believe all those factors will drown out inflation effects.
I should also add that Christie's auctioned the early posters.
As I recall they stopped auctioning posters/prints bc the program managers quit (or maybe insufficiently profitable?)
Anyways, when they ran occasional MP auctions in the early 2010s, their bidders were obviously price insensitive and usually bid 2-3 times HA Sig prices, all my bids got "left in the dust." (Although no doubt there's a more apt Brit phrase :)
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I agree. Part of the reason is the buyer's premium that increases cost by at least $20. It makes no sense to bid on a $20 poster when the final bill will be $40 higher. For example, I won a set of lobbies for $34 last year The final bill was just under $70 with BP and shipping. It isn't realistic to purchase multiple items to keep shipping costs down because the number of lots is much smaller.
For those reasons, I generally will not bid at HA on anything under $200.
Jay, the BP has nothing to do with anything. When I bid, I bid knowing I had to add on 19%, so I reduce my actual bid accordingly
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I heard that before. Am I correct by saying that if a poster ends at $100, the seller gets less than $65? Like 35% less? I understand the seller doesn't pay the buyer's premium, but the final price is what someone is willing to pay for the item, so the seller get 35% less, vs 28% with Bruce. 35% seems outrageous to me. More than a third. So HA may sell for more, but they also pocket more. Honestly, if I was going to sell my collection, I don't know who I would turn to.
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but if the poster is selling for more money (or even A LOT more money) that balances out.
I sold some stuff in their last Sig auction that went for 2-3x what I was asking at a retail level, so I got back about double what I was asking.
hard to find something wrong with that.
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I agree. Part of the reason is the buyer's premium that increases cost by at least $20. It makes no sense to bid on a $20 poster when the final bill will be $40 higher. For example, I won a set of lobbies for $34 last year The final bill was just under $70 with BP and shipping. It isn't realistic to purchase multiple items to keep shipping costs down because the number of lots is much smaller.
For those reasons, I generally will not bid at HA on anything under $200.
I agree, I dont really participate in the weekly at all anymore just to stay away from the lure of buying the cheap item only to pay 40% more by the time it gets to me. It really is a hell of a business model, no inventory cost, and make money from the buyer and seller both!
Bruce, I hope you dont start turning stuff away as I like trying to pull in the cheap stuff too and honestly I think the lower priced stuff actually helps the bids on the items that get higher prices, just by an increase in bidder traffic.
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Well, sometimes there are good items in the weekly. 2 weeks ago, I bought a Top Hat and a Roberta card. Both are Astaire/Rogers titles. Probably sold for Bruce prices, and would have gone higher in a Sig auction. Like most things in this hobby, you need to know your stuff and watch carefully for deals.
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I buy something about 50% of the time in the weeklies, with them generally being some gambling item as my Chandler collection only needs some specifics at this point and the rest is way too expensive (like the French Big Sleep posters)
if they have a lobby card I need, I bid until I can't stand it anymore and believe me, I will never get out financially from my gambling collection, so value is not the arbiter of my bid.
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I buy something about 50% of the time in the weeklies, with them generally being some gambling item as my Chandler collection only needs some specifics at this point and the rest is way too expensive (like the French Big Sleep posters)
if they have a lobby card I need, I bid until I can't stand it anymore and believe me, I will never get out financially from my gambling collection, so value is not the arbiter of my bid.
I sympathize. I sometimes think I am the only person collecting old musicals, but for some reason there is always somebody there bidding me up. Since he is the only one left when I sell, he'll get my stuff for a song :)
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And I won't spend the rest of my life taking low value consignments, and the day I announce that all consignments must have a realistic minimum of $30 or more, there will be a lot of people saying, "I wish I had consigned before", because the alternatives are as I outlined above.
So what will you do, Bruce, if someone likes me comes up to you and says: “Here’s my 14,000 pieces collection. There are a lot of pieces above $1,000, even more above $500, but also a lot for less than $30, and I want you to auction them all separately or I go somewhere else, do it myself or don’t sell it at all.” Do you change your policy or say fuck off, I don’t have time for your shit.
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So what will you do, Bruce, if someone likes me comes up to you and says: “Here’s my 14,000 pieces collection. There are a lot of pieces above $1,000, even more above $500, but also a lot for less than $30, and I want you to auction them all separately or I go somewhere else, do it myself or don’t sell it at all.” Do you change your policy or say fuck off, I don’t have time for your shit.
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When that time comes, it's probably because he is going to want to finally relax more (grandkids, take a vacation finally, whatever) and not put in all the hours with emovie and tell you that you missed your chance.
Remember that something like 75% of all Emovie auctions end below $30, if he cuts all that junk out he's only going to need 25% of the number of employees he has now (or less) and won't have the manpower to sell that kind of volume.
So you better send it all to him now, or your only option will be to sell to Rich and no one wants to see that happen.
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Probably sold for Bruce prices, and would have gone higher in a Sig auction.
Jay, you reference this as though it is proven fact. How about making a chart of 100 or so items that have been sold both in Sig auctions and in Major Auctions (or in Weekly Auctions vs Thrice Weekly Auctions). I think you will find that this is a myth.
And of course, such a chart would not even begin to take into account that one site has hidden bidding.
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So what will you do, Bruce, if someone likes me comes up to you and says: “Here’s my 14,000 pieces collection. There are a lot of pieces above $1,000, even more above $500, but also a lot for less than $30, and I want you to auction them all separately or I go somewhere else, do it myself or don’t sell it at all.” Do you change your policy or say fuck off, I don’t have time for your shit.
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If I change the way I auction, yes, it would be too late for me to auction all 14,000 pieces. I have done this for 28 years, and won't do it forever. I anticipate yet another change coming to the structure of my auctions and it would be for the third time. In 1999, I moved my entire business onto eBay, after experimenting for a couple of years there. In 2008 I moved my entire business OFF of eBay. Perhaps in 2018 I will make another significant change. But of course, you WOULD have other options on how to sell your collection.
But if you were to come to me soon, I would say I will gladly auction all of them separately, even the bottom of the barrel stuff. Timing is everything!
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I sympathize. I sometimes think I am the only person collecting old musicals, but for some reason there is always somebody there bidding me up. Since he is the only one left when I sell, he'll get my stuff for a song :)
yep.. Mine also. I sold a collection not long ago (book collection) that took me 20 years to assemble and I only got 1/2 what I had into it, if that
but so what, I don't get any money back after I go to Andre's French Restaurant for dinner.
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Jay, you reference this as though it is proven fact. How about making a chart of 100 or so items that have been sold both in Sig auctions and in Major Auctions (or in Weekly Auctions vs Thrice Weekly Auctions). I think you will find that this is a myth.
And of course, such a chart would not even begin to take into account that one site has hidden bidding.
Well, I did use the word probably, which doesn't mean proven. I do research both your history and theirs.
The Roberta card cost me about $300 with buyer's premium. You've never sold that particular card, but other cards in VG-F condition have gone for between $200-$400, so we are in the ballpark. This card had nice whimsy, but no Ginger.
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_roberta.jpg)
The Top Hat card was first release and a nice portrait card of Fred and Ginger. They Rated condition as 6.5. It had some work done on the borders, so VG-G is a fair evaluation. I paid $1900 with BP. You only have lesser cards with prices from $240-1100. You do show this card, but only as part of the archives.
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_top_hat_1st_rel.jpg)
So, I think I made a fair assessment. I suspect the Top Hat card may have made your major though. In any case, the prices from Heritage were in your ballpark, as much as one can compare apples to oranges. Don't worry, you're still my go to auction site. :)
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From EMP 2nite, went 2-0 (but no bargains, mistyped one bid):
Pulp Fiction (1994 JB2 SSR):More menacing than the US MP:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Pulp%20Fiction%201994%20JB2%20SSR_zpsdh7gyouk.jpg)
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Pan's Labyrinth (2007 JB2 SSR): Loverly....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Pans%20Labyrinth%202007%20JB2%20SSR_zpsiq1zbz2s.jpg)
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Too classy for these hinterlands, Jayn.....
(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_top_hat_1st_rel.jpg)
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(http://users.frii.com/cindy/posters/lobbies/lc_top_hat_1st_rel.jpg)
I don't collect single cards, but if I did, I would buy that. Nice!!!
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(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Pans%20Labyrinth%202007%20JB2%20SSR_zpsiq1zbz2s.jpg)
Love this one. Best for the title, imo.
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Don't worry, you're still my go to auction site. :)
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I think the other clue indicating that this quad is for a later RR is the wording calling the movie the "signature edition."
'Tis a nice looking poster, regardless. thumbsup.gif
Sorry where is the RR in the wording or am I being bit thick?
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This should help:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0129167/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf
Rereleased 2015 in the US as the 'Signature Edition'
Your poster has 'Signature Edition' under the title so it's from the rerelease. Actually as it's a quad so it's from the 2016 UK rerelease.
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Didn't know it was recalled...! Was it really?
After all, as per another thread, there had already been by then a number of other 'through the legs' posters.
I know a Freddie Nightmare poster was recalled because it used the gun barrel theme, the gun barrel being copyrighted by then I believe.
About which, this - if people were not aware.
(Unlikely, I know)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/nightmare-on-elm-street-4-original-film-poster-james-bond-rare/162867951150?hash=item25ebafb62e:g:bCcAAOSwW6BZ8aXP
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Some new ones in for the new year !
(https://i.imgur.com/eMUgyvz.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/C7ZBlPO.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ZcHSeSz.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/8n9nGHQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/B8lAwT6.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/0VxNc78.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ISiAnqB.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/kEYoo5v.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/8nGjsd2.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/TOUbwcs.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/GmHkjGp.jpg)
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Nice haul, there, gargoyle.
Liking this one and the Alien, too. thumbup
(https://i.imgur.com/eMUgyvz.jpg)
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Thanks buddy, Can't beat me some Drew bed1
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Nice haul, Gargoyle.
Mel - love that Pan's Lab, great poster.
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Nice haul, there, gargoyle.
Liking this one and the Alien, too. thumbup
(https://i.imgur.com/eMUgyvz.jpg)
Agreed. thumbsup.gif
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Did you have this poster signed?
Or did you get it that way? A cool looking, creepy poster, for sure.
(https://i.imgur.com/TOUbwcs.jpg)
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No it's all part of the poster Jeff.
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Nice. So the sig is part of the design and how it was printed. thumbsup.gif
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Are Carry on Films well known outside the UK?
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/39893782072_656e4e714c_h.jpg)
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Not really. They seem to be a specifically British thing.
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I don't collect single cards, but if I did, I would buy that. Nice!!!
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I agree! That Top Hat card is lovely to see! What great printing registration. The card glows!
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Not really. They seem to be a specifically British thing.
Shame, you’re all missing out!
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But fellow APF member John, aka Test1, knows them well and has his own sub-collection! thumbsup.gif
http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,11902.0.html
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Had never heard of it until Test posted his posters. Still don't know what it's about.
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Um, fishing in the shallow end of the pool nowadays, but these are semi-stupefying:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Les%20Girls%201957%20US%201S%20SSF_zpsj9amvi31.jpeg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Burn%20Witch%20Burn%201962%20US%201S%20SSF_zpskrkdu9hk.jpeg)
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That Les Girls poster is great, Sundance Kid! In the early 1980s Mitzi Gaynor gave a talk in Oklahoma City about her career and life. She was beautiful and extremely funny. She stayed after the talk and chatted with us for at least another hour. Looks like she is still with us according to Wikipedia.